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Moses
12-20-2005, 06:07 PM
If you listen to Damnation Moses you'd realize what an idiot you look like right now.
Trust me I've been a fan of the band for a pretty long time and I've listened to Damnation plenty of times, which don't really have his best vocals anyway. I just don't think Mikael is that good of a singer, apart from his death growl and clean emotional quality.

Darkness
12-20-2005, 06:07 PM
I think he can hit more then 2 octaves...

Toaster
12-20-2005, 06:10 PM
Jimmy Gilette can hit 6 octaves!!! OMG

I don't like the vocals on Damnation too much. He goes off-key quite a bit. BWP, Deliverance and GR have Mikael's best vocals.

Cain
12-20-2005, 06:11 PM
Jimmy Gilette can hit 6 octaves!!! OMG

I don't like the vocals on Damnation too much. He goes off-key quite a bit. BWP, Deliverance and GR have Mikael's best vocals.

BWP and GR especially. The ones on Still Life aren't bad either.

Moses
12-20-2005, 06:13 PM
They don't sound bad for a lack of it, though. They sound great without it. Anyway, isolation years has some smooth falsetto in it. I rekon his range is surely more than 2 octaves. The falsetto from that song compared to his lowest growl? I've even heard him sing pretty low notes before.

Singing to me is pretty much all about the emotional quality. Music being about emotion and all; Mikael singing passionately within an octave would probably do more for me than a huge multi-octave sweeping melody from an Opera singer, which I would get little or no emotional feeling from.

Anyway, Mikael can sing very well live too, while playing guitar, which I find pretty impressive, especially given some Opeth guitar parts.
Trust me his range is two octaves give or take a step. I agree about his emotional quality and how it really works for the band but the discussion was about being a technically a great singer.

Oh, and tell me Luciano Pavarotti isn't emotional and I'll have to bitch slap somebody.:smash: Definately the most emotional singer of all time in my opinion.

I think he can hit more then 2 octaves...
2 octaves is about average for a trained singer. 3-3 1/2 is very good professionally and 4 is exceptional. Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston both have a 5 octave range which is definately phenominal. My fiance has 3 1/2.

vashts80
12-20-2005, 06:30 PM
Man, I loved the last part of that interview. I loved how Mike commented that Per "isn't just some guy on the street hitting the big orchestral buttons making it sound all nice and epic"...I laugh at that for some reason, because it's kinda true for a lot of bands, heh

Hells Bells
12-20-2005, 06:38 PM
His voice is only that perfectly on pitch because they have awesome production.

When I saw them live he hit the notes dead on.

In a way, I agree with you on this one though...don't get me wrong, I love Mikael's voice, it's good, and it fits the music beautifully, but it's nothing spectacular.

Jimmy Gilette can hit 6 octaves!!! OMG

I don't like the vocals on Damnation too much. He goes off-key quite a bit. BWP, Deliverance and GR have Mikael's best vocals.

:amaze:
Holy ****....6 octaves? Are you sure you heard that right?? I've heard that some people can do 4, and even that's a bit of a stretch....but 6?!

/NP In My Time of Need - Opeth. Listening to this song makes me appreciate the greatness of Martin Lopez's drumming.

Deth
12-20-2005, 07:03 PM
I had a link a while back to a guy who could do 8. No kidding.

Shattered_Future
12-20-2005, 07:04 PM
Mikael's range isn't the biggest, but he's got a decent range.

His voice is really special for me...I love it a LOT. He's on par with Stanne and Allen for best male singer in my book.

Moses
12-20-2005, 07:08 PM
Mikael's range isn't the biggest, but he's got a decent range.

His voice is really special for me...I love it a LOT. He's on par with Stanne and Allen for best male singer in my book.
I assume you mean Russell Allen...

The man is a powerhouse, I can't believe anyone doesn't like Symphony X. They aren't even that technically focused rather than for songwriting, even though they do have their times.

Deth
12-20-2005, 07:10 PM
I've never been a huge fan of Symphony X's vocals. In my opinion they're the weak point of the band. He's not bad, just kind of meh in my eyes.

Moses
12-20-2005, 07:12 PM
If you saw them live you'd be floored by his voice, like everyone else who was at Gigantour. If you need further proof, the short vocal solo in Wicked is awesome.

Shattered_Future
12-20-2005, 07:13 PM
Are you serious?! :eek:

Man, Russell Allen has one of the most powerful male voices I've ever heard. Live, he's 500 times better...it's just phenomonal.

Go listen to Of Sins And Shadows, and try to tell me his vocals are the weak point of the band. They ROCK.

Deth
12-20-2005, 07:14 PM
I'll fire up Sins And Shadows now actually. Maybe my opinion will change.

Had to interrupt 'In Mist She Was Standing' though :(.

naboo
12-20-2005, 07:15 PM
That was a cool interview. Did anyone else find it funny that the Martins tore the bassist/drummer needed adds down? :lol:.

I agree with Moses; Russell Allen is awesome. One of my favorite vocalists.

Moses
12-20-2005, 07:16 PM
I don't wanna turn this into an SX thread but who else agrees that the intro for The Divine Wings of Tragedy is the coolest intro for an epic song ever?

i am the robots
12-20-2005, 07:16 PM
What's the difference with Firefox? I've heard amazing things about it but I don't really get what it does.

Firefox is a more secure, faster browser, that really relies on consumer desires for features, it comes missing a lot of plugins that IE has, but it asks you if you want the plugins that you're missing and allows you to choose what you want and what you don't want *without spamming you with spyware* it also allows you to turn off certain pretty much unnecessary security filters to search even faster. Also, it allows tabbed browsing, which allows you to open multiple sites in a tab format in one window by just pressing ctrl + t to open a new tab, and ctr + # to move to whichever tab you desire.

Hells Bells
12-20-2005, 07:17 PM
One of the weakest points? He has fantastic voice IMO, powerful, good range, excellent control, and can cover a number of different styles. Listen to King of Terrors, Of Sins and Shadows, The Inferno, or Candlelight Fantasia...

I had a link a while back to a guy who could do 8. No kidding.

:lol:

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day...8 octaves...

Moses
12-20-2005, 07:18 PM
I had a link a while back to a guy who could do 8. No kidding.
That's like a bigger range than a guitar.

naboo
12-20-2005, 07:18 PM
I don't wanna turn this into an SX thread but who else agrees that the intro for The Divine Wings of Tragedy is the coolest intro for an epic song ever?

Hmm, that's hard. Epics are my favorites. I think I like the Odyssey's intro a little better.

Shattered_Future
12-20-2005, 07:18 PM
I don't wanna turn this into an SX thread but who else agrees that the intro for The Divine Wings of Tragedy is the coolest intro for an epic song ever?

The intro really pisses me off for some reason...I'm assuming you're talking about the vocal work.

The part where the instruments come in floors me every time though.

Just finished Of Sins And Shadows...now going on to DWOT. Weird track labeling on my copy. :confused:

Gittermonkey11
12-20-2005, 07:18 PM
If you saw them live you'd be floored by his voice, like everyone else who was at Gigantour. If you need further proof, the short vocal solo in Wicked is awesome.

I saw him and gigantour, and yes it did kick ***. I don't really care for his studio vocals though.... odd

Deth
12-20-2005, 07:20 PM
That's like a bigger range than a guitar.
I'll see if I can find the link.

Yeah, the intro to Divine Wings Of Tragedy annoys me as well.

Moses
12-20-2005, 07:21 PM
I love the vocal work in the intro for DWOT.

On Odyssey vs. DWOT:

DWOT intro > Odyssey intro

Odyssey > DWOT

vashts80
12-20-2005, 07:22 PM
I'm sad that I missed SX, and Nevermore, on Gigantour. I got there towards the end of Dillenger's set :\ I did however see DT and Megadeth, so I was pretty happy. And I got to see Nevermore on Halloween, with a longer set to boot

Shattered_Future
12-20-2005, 07:22 PM
Hmmmm...

Albumwise, I think his vocals are a tad better and more powerful on The Odyssey, but the music is better on DWOT.

We missed ****ing Nevermore...we were tailgating, and did so right through their set. :angry:

Moses
12-20-2005, 07:24 PM
I'm sad that I missed SX, and Nevermore, on Gigantour. I got there towards the end of Dillenger's set :\ I did however see DT and Megadeth, so I was pretty happy. And I got to see Nevermore on Halloween, with a longer set to boot
Man that sucks because the only band I missed (who I was very anxious to see) was DEP. Amazing show though, hopefully there'll be one next year. Don't know how DM will top it.

Hells Bells
12-20-2005, 07:24 PM
The intro really pisses me off for some reason...I'm assuming you're talking about the vocal work.

The part where the instruments come in floors me every time though.

Just finished Of Sins And Shadows...now going on to DWOT. Weird track labeling on my copy.

I actually like the vocals at the beginning...them and the marching rhythm after make an awesome epic intro. I think that was all Russel Allen too...

Moses
12-20-2005, 07:26 PM
Actually it was a chior which he was part of and he might have been mic'd but I'm not sure.

Shattered_Future
12-20-2005, 07:27 PM
I mean, hell, it's good...it goes on for WAY too long though. 10 seconds at most, and it would be awesome.

Hells Bells
12-20-2005, 07:30 PM
Ha, I just realized that it's like a minute and a half long. It is a bit drawn out, but then again it's leading into a 20 minute song...

Anyway, is there a already a SX thread? Just so we can stop spamming this one.

Deth
12-20-2005, 07:31 PM
Hey, let's talk Opeth.

So, any ideas on the new and hopefully improved setlist for next years tour?

I'm hoping for an apperance from Advent.

Shattered_Future
12-20-2005, 07:33 PM
Tour?

Hopefully, they play at some non-18+ venues. :angry:

Deth
12-20-2005, 07:34 PM
Let's hope.

Moses
12-20-2005, 07:34 PM
Hopefully they come to Milwaukee this time.

Hells Bells
12-20-2005, 07:38 PM
Hey, let's talk Opeth.

So, any ideas on the new and hopefully improved setlist for next years tour?

I'm hoping for an apperance from Advent.

Good idea :)

I know they're coming to Toronto, I'm just waiting for the tickets to go on sale :D

I'm hoping for the Master's Apprentice, the Drapery Falls, Bleak (again :p), and the Moor.
And it would be cool if Pers did Silhouette. :cool:

Deth
12-20-2005, 07:40 PM
I would jizz everywhere if they did Silhouette.

I don't want the Drapery Falls though, maybe the Leper Affinity.

And Godhead's Lament.

ok lateralus
12-20-2005, 08:20 PM
I would jizz everywhere if they did Silhouette.

Hopefully not on Per, that would ruin his concentration

naboo
12-20-2005, 08:37 PM
I'd love to see Advent, Necar, Godhead's Lament, The Moor, and Ghost of Perdition.

ok lateralus
12-20-2005, 08:39 PM
They should just play Patterns in the Ivy, then leave the stage. A few minutes pass. Then all of a sudden, the lights come on and they launch into Demon of the Fall.

i am the robots
12-20-2005, 08:40 PM
I'd love to see Advent, Nectar, Godhead's Lament, The Moor, and Ghost of Perdition.

That set list would be :omgfapfapfap!: for me.

My dream though: Advent, The Moor, Master's Apprentices, To Bid You Farewell, The Drapery Falls, To Rid The Disease, and Serenity Painted Death.

lost_profits
12-20-2005, 09:21 PM
Ghost Of Perdition, The Moor, April Ethereal followed by When, Closure (with improvising), Bleak, The Drapery Falls, and White Cluster would be awesome to hear.
ENCORE: Demon Of The Fall/Deliverance

Hopefully I'll see something of a familiar set list in Brisbane, April '06. But I'll keep an eye on the song arsenal they have in the concerts leading up to it.

bucket
12-20-2005, 09:56 PM
Good idea :)

I know they're coming to Toronto, I'm just waiting for the tickets to go on sale :D



Where have you seen the tour dates? Their site has a nice chunk left out for February.

Werny
12-20-2005, 10:14 PM
My desired setlist... hmm. The Apostle In Triumph, The Funeral Portrait, Deliverance, The Baying of the Hounds, Reverie (ooooorgasm), To Rid The Disease, Moonlapse Vertigo... I think that's enough. Oh, and A Fair Judgement.

Is there any aussies in here that know if the The Forum in Melbourne is an over 18 venue? If not... I'M THERE!

What is your favourite "interlude" that Opeth have done (although I like to think of them as songs by themselves)? I'm talking Patterns in the Ivy, For Absent Friends and Reverie. I love Reverie, it makes me drift away.

magicbus
12-20-2005, 11:11 PM
I love the bass on "To Bid You Farewell". I mean it's amazing.

Det_Nosnip
12-20-2005, 11:46 PM
Jimmy Gilette can hit 6 octaves!!! OMG

I don't like the vocals on Damnation too much. He goes off-key quite a bit. BWP, Deliverance and GR have Mikael's best vocals.

That's kind of the point. Opeth's music, to me, is about exploring the effects of not doing what is typically "right." This is classically expressed in Mikael's guitarwork with the dissonance and chromatic stuff, but it can also find an outlet in his vocals.


Listening to Ghost Reveries right now....screw you all. :p By far Lopez's best work...top notch stuff. His feel for cymbalwork is orgasmic, and often very subtle in its expression. Fits Opeth's atmosphere perfectly.

Werny
12-21-2005, 12:02 AM
Listening to Ghost Reveries right now....screw you all. :p By far Lopez's best work...top notch stuff. His feel for cymbalwork is orgasmic, and often very subtle in its expression. Fits Opeth's atmosphere perfectly.

Ghost Reveries is the perfect example of how to craft amazing, original fills. Not only on the toms either, listen to his insane footwork. He rivals Flo Mounier in terms of being able to start and stop insanely quick.

He gives the music, which would just go all over the place with any other drummer, a really organic feeling when going from acoustic to heavy. On the other albums he always resorted to pretty typical death metal blast beats etc. when they went heavy, but on Reveries he keeps the intricacy even when going as fast as possible.

In other words, FARKING A. Lopez is the MAN.

Deth
12-21-2005, 10:10 AM
Lopez is my favorite drummer of all time.

I love how on Lamentations he changes all of the fills but they still all work perfectly.

Hells Bells
12-21-2005, 10:41 AM
I'm just starting to realize how amazing Lopez's work is, probably because I actually didn't even really start paying attention to the rhythm aspect of music until recently :(

Where have you seen the tour dates? Their site has a nice chunk left out for February.

Mikael announced it at the show ;)

/NP Undertow - Pain of Salvation

Biancazzurri
12-21-2005, 11:12 AM
On 1st of April Opeth come to Israel.... And the ticket price doesn't matter to me at all, coz its once in a lifetime for me for now.
My question: how much did you pay for ticket?

Deth
12-21-2005, 11:14 AM
$20 before Ticketmaster raped me for another 6.

Biancazzurri
12-21-2005, 11:16 AM
ohh thats nothing!

Deth
12-21-2005, 11:19 AM
It depends more on the venue though.

Hells Bells
12-21-2005, 11:22 AM
$20 before Ticketmaster raped me for another 6.

Pfft I paid 40 by the time ticketmaster was done with me :angry:

Deth
12-21-2005, 11:30 AM
Never buy them online. They charge more if you do it on the interweb and print it yourself :confused:.

Hells Bells
12-21-2005, 11:43 AM
I guess that's the problem, I always buy my tickets online. I'll just actually go to a ticketmaster location next time.

the2stranger
12-21-2005, 11:48 AM
I just go to my post office and buy them there.
Nothing like having your tickets in hand right away

Kage
12-21-2005, 11:58 AM
I guess that's the problem, I always buy my tickets online. I'll just actually go to a ticketmaster location next time.
That doesn't make a difference. You still get overcharged for them. If you want to be free of convienece and third-party fees, you have to go to the box office of the actual venue.

Stoo
12-21-2005, 12:37 PM
I paid £14... What's that in Dollars??

Deth
12-21-2005, 12:38 PM
About $23 or so.

Toaster
12-21-2005, 01:14 PM
Ghost Reveries is the perfect example of how to craft amazing, original fills. Not only on the toms either, listen to his insane footwork. He rivals Flo Mounier in terms of being able to start and stop insanely quick.

He gives the music, which would just go all over the place with any other drummer, a really organic feeling when going from acoustic to heavy. On the other albums he always resorted to pretty typical death metal blast beats etc. when they went heavy, but on Reveries he keeps the intricacy even when going as fast as possible.

In other words, FARKING A. Lopez is the MAN.

Lopez hasn't ever played a blast beat. A blast beat isn't really fast double bass, it's more like snare/ride alternated with bass very, very fast. And as much as I love Lopez's drumming, he doesn't compare to Flo at all, except in maybe "feel".

Deth
12-21-2005, 01:17 PM
Lopez hasn't ever played a blast beat. A blast beat isn't really fast double bass, it's more like snare/ride alternated with bass very, very fast. And as much as I love Lopez's drumming, he doesn't compare to Flo at all, except in maybe "feel".
I don't really think that Flo has any feel. He's always going a 1000 mph so that never gets shown. I love his work, but in a different context (Damnation for example) I don't think he would be nearly as impressive.

Toaster
12-21-2005, 01:19 PM
He has feel, but his feel is always "really fast". :p That's why I say Lopez could compare to him in feel alone, because he can slow it down but still keep it interesting.

Shattered_Future
12-21-2005, 01:27 PM
Flo is a brilliant drummer, but it's nigh impossible for him to keep an actual beat.

Werny
12-21-2005, 09:57 PM
Lopez hasn't ever played a blast beat. A blast beat isn't really fast double bass, it's more like snare/ride alternated with bass very, very fast. And as much as I love Lopez's drumming, he doesn't compare to Flo at all, except in maybe "feel".

Oh, ok. I thought a blast beat was just hitting the snare really fast, which he does sometimes on Deliverance.

Flo used to be my favourite drummer (of course there's Tomas Haake but he's too good to be on any metal list) until Once Was Not. He used to, for me, have the right "feel" and "groove" and everything, but Once Was Not is full of stale blast beats and the occasional awesome jazzy fill. No feel at all, just blast after blast. His drumming on And Then You'll Beg is a different story altogether.

That's why I hate it when musicians simplify their playing style to make it sound more accessible.

So yeah, Flo used to be the king.

Moses
12-21-2005, 10:30 PM
Flo has the same feel in pretty much every song save a few exceptions. Lopez is a jazz drummer and you can tell, his latin beats just have that groove. Flo on the other hand would be made fun of in the jazz world.

Werny
12-22-2005, 10:04 AM
Flo has the same feel in pretty much every song save a few exceptions. Lopez is a jazz drummer and you can tell, his latin beats just have that groove. Flo on the other hand would be made fun of in the jazz world.

True dat. They're both kings of their respective genres, but put them against each other and Lopez would own. Although some stuff Flo does with fills on Once Was Not is very groovey and skilled, it's still not able to touch Lopez.

bucket
12-22-2005, 10:20 AM
I turn 18 in February and I just KNOW that they will come by me the day before my birthday, and of course, it will be at an 18+ venue. There is no other way the scenario will play out. It will be exactly like that. Just watch.

Hey guess what happened oh my gosh Opeth is coming near me three days before my 18th birthday oh my gosh guess what ages the venue is...

All ages :cool:

About ****ing time there's a show on a decent night. Now all I have to do is get someone to go with me. November's show was 3 hours away, which nobody wanted to go to. Now there's no excuse as it's only 1 and a half away.

Looks like I'll be seeing some Opeth!



But I probably won't.

the2stranger
12-22-2005, 10:41 AM
you will come to appreciate 18+ shows in 3 days though :p

Deth
12-22-2005, 10:44 AM
Are North American dates announced then?

Det_Nosnip
12-22-2005, 11:23 AM
He has feel, but his feel is always "really fast". :p That's why I say Lopez could compare to him in feel alone, because he can slow it down but still keep it interesting.

Well, there's alot more to "feel" than being interesting while playing slowly. :p It's more a factor of HOW the notes are played, what cymbal colors are used, how the tones are used together, etc.

bucket
12-22-2005, 02:03 PM
Are North American dates announced then?

Only the four confirmed ones. PA, Maryland, Ohio, and WV maybe?

heavy metal kid
12-22-2005, 02:16 PM
They have to come to California, better yet to San Diego.

/Hoping that and an all ages show.

Stormrider
12-22-2005, 02:22 PM
Only the four confirmed ones. PA, Maryland, Ohio, and WV maybe?

F E B R U A R Y
16th - Norfolk, The Norva - VA
17th - Towson, Recher Theatre - MD
18th - Millvale, Mr. Small's Theatre - PA
19th - Cincinnati , Bogarts - OH

Those are the 4 confirmed dates.

Hope they come back in my area.

vashts80
12-22-2005, 04:00 PM
I'm sad that the only PA date announced so far is in Pittsburgh (6 hours from where I live)

No way I'm gonna be able to make that, even if my dad was willing to go to Pittsburg, which he isn't. I can only hope another Philly date is announced, or a Jersey date is announced

Darkness
12-22-2005, 04:09 PM
Few more dates up.

The Sandman
12-22-2005, 04:15 PM
They're coming near me in March. I'm so excited. It doesn't matter how much the tickets are because I'd sell my soul to go see them.

If it's over 18's I'll commit suicide. If my parents decide I can't go I'll commit suicide. Actually no I won't...I'll kill them, take all their money and follow Opeth around for the rest of the tour.

It's a plan.

Txus
12-22-2005, 04:38 PM
They're coming near me in March. I'm so excited. It doesn't matter how much the tickets are because I'd sell my soul to go see them.

If it's over 18's I'll commit suicide. If my parents decide I can't go I'll commit suicide. Actually no I won't...I'll kill them, take all their money and follow Opeth around for the rest of the tour.

It's a plan.
:eek: Hahaha...nice. :chug:

I hope they come to NY.

Stormrider
12-22-2005, 04:38 PM
So im trying to learn Ghost Of Perdotion...im failing miserably so far :(

Toaster
12-22-2005, 04:42 PM
So im trying to learn Ghost Of Perdotion...im failing miserably so far :(

It's in open D minor tuning. If you're in standard you may have a lot of trouble playing it.

The Sandman
12-22-2005, 04:48 PM
I can't imagine that they wouldn't play in New York...

Or maybe it's all a biiig conspiracy.

<_<

>_>

TojesDolan
12-22-2005, 05:30 PM
Yeah so a question.

Does anyone know the opening chords for "Beneath the mire"?

I have the ones showed in the GP file:

E--5--4--7--
B--3--3--3--
G--2--2--4--

But they just don't sound quite right.

I think it might be an octave higher than it should or wrong finger position.

Darkness
12-22-2005, 06:20 PM
Are you in the proper tuning?

RouteOne
12-22-2005, 06:40 PM
:eek: Hahaha...nice. :chug:

I hope they come to NY.
They came to saratoga winners if you know where that is...

Txus
12-22-2005, 06:45 PM
They came to saratoga winners if you know where that is...
:upset: ....I don't....where?

TojesDolan
12-22-2005, 06:46 PM
Are you in the proper tuning?
The whole album is in open Dmin, amirite?

DADFAD?
EDIT: six thousand. :)

Glad I made it in the Opeth thread.

Stormrider
12-22-2005, 06:52 PM
It's in open D minor tuning. If you're in standard you may have a lot of trouble playing

Yes im in proper tuning. Its going better now. Im practicing only the first page of the tab for now. One part at a time.

Deth
12-22-2005, 08:14 PM
It's annoying me so much that I can't get new tabs now.

bucket
12-22-2005, 08:17 PM
The whole album is in open Dmin, amirite?

DADFAD?
EDIT: six thousand. :)

Glad I made it in the Opeth thread.

It's not entirely in DADFAD. Most is... I think.




Does anyone else play in open tunings? I find DADFAD along with other minor tunings amusing. My classical guitar hasn't been in standard for ages it seems. I just tuned it to EGBGBE.

My favorites are CGCGCEb, DGBbGBbD, and DADFAD. Nick Drake started me on messing with my strings. When I heard Opeth used open Dm I was all :eek:

I suggest trying open tunings if you haven't already.

RouteOne
12-22-2005, 08:26 PM
:upset: ....I don't....where?
It's in Albany NY.

I missed it too....

Txus
12-22-2005, 08:27 PM
It's in Albany NY.

I missed it too....
Hmm...that's way to far from were I live anyway's.

When was it?

Toaster
12-22-2005, 08:53 PM
Beneath the Mire is in standard tuning. Those chord shapes weren't right.

RouteOne
12-22-2005, 08:54 PM
Hmm...that's way to far from were I live anyway's.

When was it?
Like....a while ago.

Stormrider
12-22-2005, 09:05 PM
It's annoying me so much that I can't get new tabs now.

If you mean powertabs and all...you can get them from metaltabs.com. Thats where I got mine.

BlindWriting
12-22-2005, 09:07 PM
:eek: Hahaha...nice. :chug:

I hope they come to NY.
If they come to NYC I'm so there. Man that would be sweet to see them live.

Morningrise
12-22-2005, 09:48 PM
I had a link a while back to a guy who could do 8. No kidding.
Bull-fucking-shit.

Flynn
12-24-2005, 10:31 AM
I've been practicing The Forest Of October the past couple of days. I've listened to it so many times I'm almost sick of it. I can play the guitars up until the solo at around 6:00. Still working on the solo, and some parts with guitar II a few verses before it. Any guitarists in here try it yet?

vashts80
12-24-2005, 11:25 AM
I'm working on Advent and BRI on bass when I go back into standard tuning (I'm in D standard right now) :x

Flynn
12-24-2005, 11:56 AM
I'm working on Advent and BRI on bass when I go back into standard tuning (I'm in D standard right now) :x


I'm done with The Forest Of October for now, coincidentally,
I just tuned down to DGCFAD, I got bored and want to learn the rest of The Flesh And The Power It Holds. I love playing the intro.

vashts80
12-24-2005, 12:20 PM
Flesh is a fun song to play, but Philosopher is funner since the extended outro provides more room for wankage on bass :D

I've learned bits and pieces of some Death songs, like I know the first 30 seconds of Pull the Plug, but I know Flesh and Philosopher in full

Darkness
12-24-2005, 03:46 PM
Mmmmm Damnation... :)


Very good Christmas album indeed. :D

CaptainWaits
12-24-2005, 03:58 PM
..I suggest deleting that post, as it's not even kind of Opeth related.

And if you know it's against the rules, why would you do it?
Cause I have to start it off somehow:eek:

CaptainWaits
12-24-2005, 04:07 PM
Did it just for you bud!

Darkness
12-24-2005, 04:08 PM
Thanks. :thumb:

I'll delete mine to.

Panvium
12-24-2005, 06:23 PM
Well i get Deiliverance tomorrow. I've Heard the song Deliverance and i liked it but haven't heard the rest of the cd. Hows the rest of the cd?

Shadius
12-24-2005, 06:33 PM
A Fair Judgement is a brilliant clean vocals only song with heavy and soft guitars. That along with the song Deliverance were my highlights, Masters Apprentice is a cool heavy song too. I havn't listened to Deliverance as much as other Opeth albums, really.

Det_Nosnip
12-24-2005, 07:26 PM
Wreath rules as well.

Deth
12-24-2005, 07:42 PM
Bull-fucking-shit.
Well, it was a thread in the pit and the link was to him performing 7 octaves, and on his website he did the full 8. I know I look like a moron for not being able to provide the links, but take my word for it.

Moses
12-24-2005, 08:45 PM
I think Ghost of Perdition has the coolest intro ever. Not ever but I'm just addicted to it right now.

Deth
12-24-2005, 08:48 PM
It is guitar right, that little couple of seconds thing?

Moses
12-24-2005, 08:51 PM
I believe so... All I know is it's lathered with reverb or somthing.

Deth
12-24-2005, 08:52 PM
Yeah, and I think it's strumming opposed to piano chords.

i am the robots
12-24-2005, 10:01 PM
Well i get Deiliverance tomorrow. I've Heard the song Deliverance and i liked it but haven't heard the rest of the cd. Hows the rest of the cd?

Really really good, the highlights are probably the acoustic part of Master's Apprentices and the entireity of A Fair Judgement.

Darkness
12-25-2005, 10:02 AM
Merry Christmas guys...



My presant was a good hacking... but I got some other cool stuff, like an Opeth shirt. :p

Killtacular
12-25-2005, 12:19 PM
Guess who got Lamentations? :cool:

With my Christmas money I'mma buy Damnation and some ( )peth shirts.

I also bought Deliverance on eBay for 11 dollars.

Best. Deal. Ever.

Except for Blackwater Park for 6.

My god, do I kick ass.

Flynn
12-25-2005, 12:34 PM
Guess who got Lamentations? :cool:

With my Christmas money I'mma buy Damnation and some ( )peth shirts.

I also bought Deliverance on eBay for 11 dollars.

Best. Deal. Ever.

Except for Blackwater Park for 6.

My god, do I kick ass.


:lol: That's cool. You made out like a bandit! Just never buy from Amazon.com. I ordered Focus by Cynic 3 months ago, and they still haven't even sent it out yet! I only paid 4 bucks for Orchid though. Some dip**** with no taste pawned it off. :cool:

ok lateralus
12-25-2005, 12:52 PM
I got Lamentations today, cant wait to watch it

Aw3someman
12-25-2005, 12:54 PM
Hey guys. I was looking to expand the type of music i listen to and i decided to give Opeth a shot. Any suggestions on a single or an album that I should check out. (preferrably singles.)

ok lateralus
12-25-2005, 01:04 PM
single? why not get an album?

Moses
12-25-2005, 01:04 PM
Well the song that got me into them was The Drapery Falls. Then the song Blackwater Park. Both songs are on the BWP album and that would be the best one to start out with and that's what most people will tell you.

ok lateralus
12-25-2005, 01:11 PM
Yeah well I'd say their best is either Morningrise or Still Life but a good starting point would be Blackwater Park, or maybe Still Life.

Flynn
12-25-2005, 01:20 PM
nah, I wouldn't recommend that at all. What I would do, is get Orchid, and when you have listened to it, get Morningrise, then My Arms Your Hearse etc etc in chronological order. That way, you can see the band slowly change and morph and see all their changes the way it happened. :chug:

Shadius
12-25-2005, 01:31 PM
nah, I wouldn't recommend that at all. What I would do, is get Orchid, and when you have listened to it, get Morningrise, then My Arms Your Hearse etc etc in chronological order. That way, you can see the band slowly change and morph and see all their changes the way it happened. :chug:

I don't recommend doing that at all.

I recommend getting an accessable album, and then exploring them from there if you realise you like their sound. If you're looking for mellow with no heavy or death vocals, try Damnation. If you're looking for what Opeth are usually like, I'd recommend Still Life, Blackwater Park, or even their latest album; Ghost Reveries.

Ghost Reveries may be the most accessable album of their usual "mixed heavy/mellow" style.

Darkness
12-25-2005, 01:48 PM
I got a nice new Opeth shirt... has the logo in the front, then "Look Your Last Upon the Sun" on the back.

Shred Danson
12-25-2005, 04:54 PM
I finally got the Lamenations DVD, woofricken'hoo!

Moses
12-25-2005, 04:59 PM
I wouldn't reccomend Flynn's suggestion at all. Most people that I know would hate their earlier work if they hadn't gotten into the BWP or Ghost Reveries first.

JamJar
12-25-2005, 05:04 PM
I finally got the Lamenations DVD, woofricken'hoo!

I didn't :upset:

I'm gonna try and order it online in the next few days. I didn't get any Opeth stuff :( but I got a wireless router :D

Shred Danson
12-25-2005, 05:10 PM
I didn't :upset:

I'm gonna try and order it online in the next few days. I didn't get any Opeth stuff :( but I got a wireless router :D

heh so did I :)

Whale and Wasp
12-25-2005, 06:12 PM
i first got into opeth by hearing "closure", then i got ghost reveries which is alright, and now i have deliverance. deliverance is my favorite opeth album :D would damnation be worth getting?

vashts80
12-25-2005, 06:41 PM
Let's put it this way: Damnation is all soft, mellow stuff. It's like all the acoustic/clean electric parts on GR put together., but 100x better

Damnation is how I got into Opeth. I listened to it for 3 months or so before I went on a spree of BWP-Deliverance-Damnation in one day

The Cynic
12-25-2005, 07:10 PM
I got into then with D&D as well. Then I got Blackwater Park and from then on in the next week I got all thier albums and The DVD. Then when Ghost Reveries came out I got that as well.

Shadius
12-25-2005, 07:27 PM
The first Opeth I heard was a random acoustic track, and I loved the style. It was one of their older songs, probably Silhouette or Requiem. Everyone seemed to be saying their best work was Blackwater Park, so I got that, and I was like... Woah, heavy. The death growls and eerie atmosphere sorta put me off for a while. At this point the only Death Metal i'd heard was In Flames.

Then an online friend who loves Opeth told me they released an all mellow album; Damnation, so I got that and it totally grew on me, so much that I needed more. I listened to Blackwater Park again, and actually started to like it; songs like Bleak and the Drapery Falls worked for me this time around, and eventually I liked at least parts from all the songs on there. Then I just went nuts and bought more and more albums. I have all their albums and the DVD now, and they're definately one of my favourite bands.

The last album I got, oddly, was Deliverance. It's not as bloody heavy as the critics and reviewers like to make out in loads of places; saying it's one of their heaviest albums and such, i've even heard misinformed people say it's all death vocals and stuff like that.

Killtacular
12-25-2005, 09:10 PM
Upon watching the documentary in Lamentations, I began thinking about what it would be like if they did the polar opposite of Damnation (Deliverance doesn't count).

A whole album of the purest, most brutal death metal they could conjure up, with no soft, acoustic interludes and no clean vocals at all.

It was at that moment that I soiled myself.

vashts80
12-25-2005, 09:19 PM
Orchid? I could have sworn that all of Orchid is growls, no clean vocals, but I can't really remember

Edit: Heh, I got banned from the ultimatemetal forums for saying I'd upload the new Katatonia somewhere and give one person the link. Go figure.

Darkness
12-25-2005, 09:20 PM
Upon watching the d0cumentary in Lamentations, I began thinking about what it would be like if they did the polar opposite of Damnation (Deliverance doesn't count).

A whole album of the purest, most brutal death metal they could conjure up, with no soft, acoustic interludes and no clean vocals at all.

It was at that moment that I soiled myself.
I'd much rather have "Deliverance" then that.

Killtacular
12-25-2005, 09:23 PM
I'd much rather have "Deliverance" then that.
It's not like if they made it that it would cancel Deliverance out so that it doesn't exsist. I'm saying go from Ghost Reveries to brutal, unadulterated death metal.

srgweawefawefa;goiahreg
*creams pants*

Darkness
12-25-2005, 09:25 PM
That would suck. If I want that I'll just listen to Nile. I'd rather they make another mind blowingly shocking album along the lines of Still Life and BWP.


..Not saying remake those albums, just an ablum as incredible as those.

Killtacular
12-25-2005, 09:34 PM
There's a better chance of a brutal death album than them getting even close to Still Life.

Also, Nile doesn't have the patented Åkerfeldt growl.

Darkness
12-25-2005, 09:36 PM
There's a better chance of a brutal death album than them getting even close to Still Life.

Also, Nile doesn't have the patented Åkerfeldt growl.
I seriously think a brutal death metal album would suck from Opeth. You'd just have songs like Wreath over and over.

vashts80
12-25-2005, 09:48 PM
Now I realize why I got banned for UM forums...the guys in Katatonia don't want any reviews from people who downloaded the promo, nor do they want people to help spread it. Considering I didn't actually spread it, and I only said "I like songs x, y, and z" I'm gonna try and get in contact with an admin and see if I can get unbanned.

bucket
12-25-2005, 09:52 PM
Orchid? I could have sworn that all of Orchid is growls, no clean vocals, but I can't really remember

Edit: Heh, I got banned from the ultimatemetal forums for saying I'd upload the new Katatonia somewhere and give one person the link. Go figure.

There's a few scattered throughout. It has to have fewer clean than the rest, but they are definetly there.

... and hey :D... the new Katatonia? petethecow@hotmail.com if you have it uploaded! I have a Spock's Beard- Octane link handy if you'd like :D.

vashts80
12-25-2005, 09:56 PM
I have Octane, and the promo isn't worth it because it has the uhh...what do you call them things, the dude saying "This is the song x from the new Katatonia album The Great Cold Distance"...I'd just wait for it, that's how good it is

Killtacular
12-25-2005, 09:57 PM
I seriously think a brutal death metal album would suck from Opeth. You'd just have songs like Wreath over and over.
Pfff.
You Kanadians are never happy.

Darkness
12-25-2005, 09:59 PM
Pfff.
You Kanadians are never happy.
I was when I first got D&D, BWP, and Still Life, etc.


Not so much GR...

Killtacular
12-25-2005, 10:00 PM
Not so much GR...
Tr00f.

Flynn
12-25-2005, 10:19 PM
I don't recommend doing that at all.

I recommend getting an accessable album, and then exploring them from there if you realise you like their sound. If you're looking for mellow with no heavy or death vocals, try Damnation. If you're looking for what Opeth are usually like, I'd recommend Still Life, Blackwater Park, or even their latest album; Ghost Reveries.

Ghost Reveries may be the most accessable album of their usual "mixed heavy/mellow" style.


That's your preference. Maybe some people want to hear more older Opeth. It all depends on who you are, either way, I would still recommend, to a new listener, listening to all of Opeths albums in the order of their release. Being so, would make it easy on the new listener to see how they started, what their style was, and what it became in later albums. :p

Killtacular
12-25-2005, 10:24 PM
Orchid is too abrasive to start an ( )peth n00b out on.

Darkness
12-25-2005, 10:24 PM
But if someone was about to hear them for the first time, I definatly would not say get Orchid. Or even Morningrise.

Det_Nosnip
12-26-2005, 12:27 AM
It's not like if they made it that it would cancel Deliverance out so that it doesn't exsist. I'm saying go from Ghost Reveries to brutal, unadulterated death metal.

srgweawefawefa;goiahreg
*creams pants*

I think it'd be nice, or at least a heavier album more in the vein of Deliverance. I seem to be one of 5 people who really enjoyed Ghost Reveries, but my only complaint about the album was that it wasn't as heavy as their previous releases. More progressive...probably THE most progressive album Opeth have done, excluding Damnation, but I'd like to hear something a bit heavier next time.

Drunken Viking
12-26-2005, 12:48 AM
I'm a new listener to Opeth, I have two of their albums, Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park, can somebody recomend me some good tracks off of those albums, I really wanna get into these guys, I've heard so much good stuff about them.

EDIT: Just saw the above posts, sorry, but could someone still recomend me some good tracks from either of these albums.

Blut und Ehre
12-26-2005, 01:07 AM
I'm a new listener to Opeth, I have two of their albums, Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park, can somebody recomend me some good tracks off of those albums, I really wanna get into these guys, I've heard so much good stuff about them.

I recommend you listen to them both in their entirety, and decide for yourself which songs are good. One shouldn't rely on other's opinions. Just make on for yourself. :)

PeEpHoLe_10
12-26-2005, 02:23 AM
I think it'd be nice, or at least a heavier album more in the vein of Deliverance. I seem to be one of 5 people who really enjoyed Ghost Reveries.


I love Ghost Reveries :p

shamed-angel
12-26-2005, 02:56 AM
I'm a new listener to Opeth, I have two of their albums, Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park, can somebody recomend me some good tracks off of those albums, I really wanna get into these guys, I've heard so much good stuff about them.

EDIT: Just saw the above posts, sorry, but could someone still recomend me some good tracks from either of these albums.
Blackwater Park:
The Leper Affinity
Harvest
Dirge for November
Patterns In The Ivy
Blackwater Park

Ghost Reveries
Ghost Of Perdition
Baying Of The Hounds
Atonement
Reverie/Harlequin Forest
The Grand Conjuration
Isolation Years

But yeh, I agree that you should just listen to the albums in their entirety. Seriously, Blackwater Park is one the best albums I've ever heard. Beautiful and Brutal. Amazing. Oh yeh, and if you like those, buy Deliverance. I'd say that's the most similar to any of those records.
I love Ghost Reveries :p
How could you not? Easily the best album of 2005.

Lev
12-26-2005, 03:40 AM
Hi guys, I wanna go to the Melbourne Opeth concert in April, are their concerts 18+? I'm only 16... :( My friend says because their are two gigs for Melbourne one should be 18+ and one all ages. Anyone know about this??

(this'll be my first concert experience ever :D)

Shadius
12-26-2005, 05:04 AM
I love GR, too. It's one of my favourite albums Opeth have done, for sure. Sure, it's not quite as heavy as some of their other releases, but it definately has it's moments. It's heavy enough for me, at any rate.

It would be nice to hear some more classical sounding stuff from Opeth, aslong the lines of the Orchid and Morningrise albums, though I don't think they'll ever particulary go back in that direction.

Moses
12-26-2005, 09:09 AM
I don't like GR that much, although it has an extremely cool intro, but I haven't given it that many listens and I've been pre-occupied with PoS, Into Eternity, PT, Symphony X and whole crapload of other bands. I'll put GR in my cd player today.

I'm a new listener to Opeth, I have two of their albums, Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park, can somebody recomend me some good tracks off of those albums, I really wanna get into these guys, I've heard so much good stuff about them.
Blackwater Park has the two songs that got me into them, The Drapery Falls and Blackwater Park. Ghost Reveries only has one song that I really like so far and that's Ghost of Perdition.

I also agree with Shadius about the classical sounding stuff because no other band really does it as well as Opeth and now they have awesome production so it'll be even better.

Flynn
12-26-2005, 09:12 AM
I love GR, too. It's one of my favourite albums Opeth have done, for sure. Sure, it's not quite as heavy as some of their other releases, but it definately has it's moments. It's heavy enough for me, at any rate.

It would be nice to hear some more classical sounding stuff from Opeth, aslong the lines of the Orchid and Morningrise albums, though I don't think they'll ever particulary go back in that direction.


Sadly, I don't think so either. It's all good though, it just maked those albums so much more precious.

denboy
12-26-2005, 09:35 AM
I just listened to damnation, and I'm yet again, amazed by the fact that they've managed to make an album so unique.. I really haven't heard anything like it before

Flynn
12-26-2005, 09:40 AM
I just listened to damnation, and I'm yet again, amazed by the fact that they've managed to make an album so unique.. I really haven't heard anything like it before


I don't think there is anything quite like D@mnation. It's a great album.

gmoneyguy
12-26-2005, 10:00 AM
I don't think there is anything quite like D@mnation. It's a great album.
I especially like in my time of need

denboy
12-26-2005, 10:02 AM
I don't think there is anything quite like D@mnation. It's a great album.

You don't have to do the @ thing, hehe..
And yeah.. I envy Mikaels ability to be original.. Hehe

Flynn
12-26-2005, 10:48 AM
You don't have to do the @ thing, hehe..
And yeah.. I envy Mikaels ability to be original.. Hehe


Yeah, he's one of a kind. They threw away the mold when they made him. I don't envy him though, I'm glad to see there is still talent in the music world. :chug:

denboy
12-26-2005, 10:51 AM
Envy is such a negative word.. you're right, I don't envy him, I just wish I one day will come even close to having accomplished what he has

gmoneyguy
12-26-2005, 10:53 AM
Envy is such a negative word.. you're right, I don't envy him, I just wish I one day will come even close to having accomplished what he hasLets just hope the new label will let Mikael use his creativity.

Flynn
12-26-2005, 10:58 AM
Envy is such a negative word.. you're right, I don't envy him, I just wish I one day will come even close to having accomplished what he has


Yeah no kidding man, me too. It's hard not to envy him though, ya know? If I had 8 albums, each a landmark in music for generations to come, I'd be the happiest person in the world. :)




Lets just hope the new label will let Mikael use his creativity.


My thoughts exactly. I am already looking forward for some new Opeth. I just hope to god it's heavy.

gmoneyguy
12-26-2005, 11:00 AM
Yeah no kidding man, me too. It's hard not to envy him though, ya know? If I had 8 albums, each a landmark in music for generations to come, I'd be the happiest person in the world. :)







My thoughts exactly. I am already looking forward for some new Opeth. I just hope to god it's heavy.
I got a feeling that they will change. More then likely the label wants to make them radio friendly.

vashts80
12-26-2005, 11:22 AM
They won't change. If Roadrunner let them release GR, which was done long before they signed to RR, then RR won't make them change.

Shadius
12-26-2005, 11:37 AM
They'll probably try. Though I can't see Opeth selling out at all. I think Ghost Reveries is as light as it's going to get, and I rekon it can only get more progressive from here.

Darkness
12-26-2005, 12:35 PM
I think Opeth will be fine. I hope Steven Wilsom comes back into the mix next time.

gmoneyguy
12-26-2005, 12:45 PM
They won't change. If Roadrunner let them release GR, which was done long before they signed to RR, then RR won't make them change.
True, but then again they are on the same label as nickleback.

Darkness
12-26-2005, 12:47 PM
True, but then again they are on the same label as nickleback.
And Slipknot.



...at least the singer from Nickelback is a fan of Opeth.

eighty d
12-26-2005, 01:24 PM
I hope Steven Wilsom comes back into the mix next time.

i do too. the production was so much heavier on blackwater park and deliverance than it is on ghost reveries.

and if you're worried about opeth changing, you're listening to the wrong band. the thing that makes opeth great is the fact that they change. i personally don't want to see a rehash of morningrise or still life.

and if you're worried about them being changed by the record label, read chapter ten of the opeth biography on their official site.

gmoneyguy
12-26-2005, 01:33 PM
i do too. the production was so much heavier on blackwater park and deliverance than it is on ghost reveries.

and if you're worried about opeth changing, you're listening to the wrong band. the thing that makes opeth great is the fact that they change. i personally don't want to see a rehash of morningrise or still life.

and if you're worried about them being changed by the record label, read chapter ten of the opeth biography on their official site.
I know what your saying, But labels have an extreme amount of power, and if a bands doesnt comply they can get dropped like a sack of potatoes

suspect
12-26-2005, 01:47 PM
I know what your saying, But labels have an extreme amount of power, and if a bands doesnt comply they can get dropped like a sack of potatoes

Yes, but Opeth is a big band and has such an established fanbase that they would find another label immediately. The only changes Opeth makes are the ones they want.

gmoneyguy
12-26-2005, 02:01 PM
Yes, but Opeth is a big band and has such an established fanbase that they would find another label immediately. The only changes Opeth makes are the ones they want.
Only time will tell.
the only reason i say this is because of what happened to CoB

Shadius
12-26-2005, 02:16 PM
Opeth have proved themselves over the course of like.. 8 albums. The only thing the record label will be able to do is make them release pretty sub-standard videos and make single cuts like for the Grand Conjuration, and I'm not even sure if Opeth will want them doing that again.

suspect
12-26-2005, 02:49 PM
I'm pretty sure that Alexi is the one behind the changes to CoB. You can clearly see the evolution to this style over the last three CD's. You can't say that HCDR is very different to AYDY.

Blut und Ehre
12-26-2005, 03:16 PM
You don't have to do the @ thing, hehe..
And yeah.. I envy Mikaels ability to be original.. Hehe

Actually most of the material for Damnation wasn't from Mikael's originality, but from Porcupine Tree's musical genius: Steven Wilson. Watch Lamentations Disc 2 (Making of Damnation + Deliverance, and band interviews) and you will see what I mean.

Shadius
12-26-2005, 03:38 PM
Actually most of the material for Damnation wasn't from Mikael's originality, but from Porcupine Tree's musical genius: Steven Wilson. Watch Lamentations Disc 2 (Making of Damnation + Deliverance, and band interviews) and you will see what I mean.

Seeing as Mikael wrote the songs, I think you could say it was more than not down to his musical ability, and a small part of it was down to Mr. Wilson.

Shattered_Future
12-26-2005, 04:44 PM
Got my Opeth watch for Christmas. Blackwater Park face.

Tis rather sweet. :D

Flynn
12-26-2005, 05:11 PM
Got my Opeth watch for Christmas. Blackwater Park face.

Tis rather sweet. :D


That's cool. I might search for one also, my watch broke yesterday.

Jude
12-26-2005, 06:30 PM
Guess who got Lamentations? :cool:

With my Christmas money I'mma buy Damnation and some ( )peth shirts.

I also bought Deliverance on eBay for 11 dollars.

Best. Deal. Ever.


Except for me getting Still Life on Amazon for 7.

Except for Blackwater Park for 6.

My god, do I kick ass.
:upset:
Oh, Ok. Well Still Life is better! :p

vashts80
12-26-2005, 07:09 PM
Actually most of the material for Damnation wasn't from Mikael's originality, but from Porcupine Tree's musical genius: Steven Wilson. Watch Lamentations Disc 2 (Making of Damnation + Deliverance, and band interviews) and you will see what I mean.

From what I remember of that, Mike had a lot of soft guitar material written for Deliverance, but Steven Wilson said that it could work better in the double album format, one soft and one heavy.

Wilson only actually contributed one full song (in terms of lyrics), which was Death Whispered a Lullabye

Deth
12-26-2005, 08:14 PM
Wilson just adds to what Mikeal already had. It wouldn't be that much different without him.

I don't think it was Steven who came up with the idea though, they were doing it before he came aboard.

Darkness
12-26-2005, 08:15 PM
Yeah, the heavy/soft thing came before Steve worked with them.


Steve added those nice keyboard lines though. Those probably wouldn't be there without him.

Deth
12-26-2005, 08:19 PM
I agree, though someone else would have done them.

Darkness
12-26-2005, 08:21 PM
I agree, though someone else would have done them.
As slick as Stevo? I think not. :thumb:

Deth
12-26-2005, 08:27 PM
Of course not! Don't accuse me of blasphemy!

Darkness
12-26-2005, 08:30 PM
Of course not! Don't accuse me of blasphemy!
You were implying it... :smash:


;)

Killtacular
12-26-2005, 09:12 PM
Watch Lamentations Disc 2..
There is no disc 2, silly.
Except for me getting Still Life on Amazon for 7.
:upset:
Oh, Ok. Well Still Life is better! :p
Oh my gawd. I'd rather have Still Life for 10 than Blackwater Park for 6.

Hells Bells
12-27-2005, 01:24 AM
Got my Opeth watch for Christmas. Blackwater Park face.

Tis rather sweet. :D

'Tis awesome, an Opeth watch, hehe :p
I was thinking about getting me some Opeth posters...other than my CoB poster, my rez room is quite bare.

/NP Painkiller (Judas Priest cover) - Death. Teh best cover ever :D

PigeonRat
12-27-2005, 01:29 AM
got pics of that opeth watch?

Werny
12-27-2005, 06:40 AM
Hi guys, I wanna go to the Melbourne Opeth concert in April, are their concerts 18+? I'm only 16... :( My friend says because their are two gigs for Melbourne one should be 18+ and one all ages. Anyone know about this??

(this'll be my first concert experience ever :D)

....same! Same! And same! It'll be my first concert, I'm 16, it's in Melbourne... yo dude I'll have to meet you there!

I'm lucky, I've got no where to stay up there so Mum has offered to drive me up there and stay with me in a motel or something. Yeah!

But yes there is the issue about the age. Well don't the venues decide? You're in Melbourne, go ask at The Forum. I'll ask/search around, and if I find out I'll tell you.

EDIT: ...isn't The Forum where The Lion King is playing? If so, I don't reckon we'll have to worry about age. Oh, and anyone know how much tickets are?

Det_Nosnip
12-27-2005, 09:30 AM
As slick as Stevo? I think not. :thumb:

Per?

Darkness
12-27-2005, 10:28 AM
Per?
..Per wasn't in the band at the time, nore was he producing Damnation.



Nore would he have had a job with Opeth if it weren't for Damnation.

gmoneyguy
12-27-2005, 10:38 AM
....same! Same! And same! It'll be my first concert, I'm 16, it's in Melbourne... yo dude I'll have to meet you there!

I'm lucky, I've got no where to stay up there so Mum has offered to drive me up there and stay with me in a motel or something. Yeah!

But yes there is the issue about the age. Well don't the venues decide? You're in Melbourne, go ask at The Forum. I'll ask/search around, and if I find out I'll tell you.

EDIT: ...isn't The Forum where The Lion King is playing? If so, I don't reckon we'll have to worry about age. Oh, and anyone know how much tickets are?
Try typing in the venues website, and im sure your questions will be answered

Deth
12-27-2005, 07:20 PM
'Tis awesome, an Opeth watch, hehe :p
I was thinking about getting me some Opeth posters...other than my CoB poster, my rez room is quite bare.

/NP Painkiller (Judas Priest cover) - Death. Teh best cover ever :D
Finally someone who agrees with me on this.

Shadius
12-27-2005, 07:29 PM
..Per wasn't in the band at the time, nore was he producing Damnation.



Nore would he have had a job with Opeth if it weren't for Damnation.

He was touring during the Deliverence tour as well, ie: Before Damnation was actually released. If Steve hadn't done it, maybe Per would have done it, who knows, Mikael had apparently wanted him to work with them for a long time. Though, I think without Steve the recording process could have gone even worse and both albums would have suffered, (Read the Opeth history thing on their site, and watch the Lamentations documentary; very interesting).

Darkness
12-27-2005, 08:15 PM
Indeed Steve kept the band together during those albums.

Jude
12-27-2005, 08:52 PM
Now I really want Lamentations even more. Is it specifically for DVD-A players (like the PT album DVDs) or for any DVD player?

Killtacular
12-27-2005, 08:55 PM
I don't know about no letters but it's Region 0 (NTSC) if that tells you anything.

Jude
12-27-2005, 08:59 PM
I don't know about no letters but it's Region O (NTSC) if that tells you anything.
Huh?

Darkness
12-27-2005, 09:02 PM
Now I really want Lamentations even more. Is it specifically for DVD-A players (like the PT album DVDs) or for any DVD player?
It should work for any DVD player, I use my ps2 for to play my dvds.

Killtacular
12-27-2005, 09:27 PM
Huh?
/e-shrug

Since it's NTSC, I suppose it'd work with all dvd players. Assuming you have an NTSC player, which you will if you're in North America.

Darkness
12-27-2005, 09:40 PM
/e-shrug

Since it's NTSC, I suppose it'd work with all dvd players. Assuming you have an NTSC player, which you will if you're in North America.
I think you scared him away...

Killtacular
12-27-2005, 09:42 PM
I think so, too.

:upset:

Hells Bells
12-27-2005, 10:30 PM
Riiight.....

/www.google.com

Ok, apparently DVD-A's work on any dvd player, but if you use a DVD-A compatible player whatever's on it comes out a lot better. I don't think it matters whether it's NTSC or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/N/NTSC.html

For anyone who was as confused by that as I was.

Werny
12-28-2005, 04:23 AM
Try typing in the venues website, and im sure your questions will be answered

They don't even mention the concert on their website. Anyway, it's the premier concert/stage play joint in the city so it shouldn't be over 18. Yay, I'm seeing Opeth.

denboy
12-28-2005, 05:14 AM
Now I really want Lamentations even more. Is it specifically for DVD-A players (like the PT album DVDs) or for any DVD player?

It's not a DVD-A. DVD-A's are mostly music only (because the music is on there in so high quality that there isn't room for much else)

I don't know about no letters but it's Region 0 (NTSC) if that tells you anything.

Depends on where you buy it.. That's what the regions are for

Jude
12-28-2005, 11:19 AM
Riiight.....

/www.google.com

Ok, apparently DVD-A's work on any dvd player, but if you use a DVD-A compatible player whatever's on it comes out a lot better. I don't think it matters whether it's NTSC or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/N/NTSC.html

For anyone who was as confused by that as I was.
That can't be right, because I have the In Absentia DVD, it's a DVD-A, and it only works on my DVD player on my TV, not the one on my computer...and the TV one says DVD-A compatible while the computer doesn't....

Well, I don't know anything about technology. Whatever.

Hells Bells
12-28-2005, 12:07 PM
Nevermind...I read the article I linked everyone to when I was half asleep, and I missed the part that said it's only HDADs, a mix between a DVD-A and a normal DVD can play on everything.

denboy
12-28-2005, 12:26 PM
That can't be right, because I have the In Absentia DVD, it's a DVD-A, and it only works on my DVD player on my TV, not the one on my computer...and the TV one says DVD-A compatible while the computer doesn't....

Well, I don't know anything about technology. Whatever.

The DVD-A of IA plays on my non DVD-A dvd player. and my computer.. Maybe your computer is just messed up?

Shadius
12-28-2005, 02:23 PM
Man. I just managed to get the live cover of Soldier of Fortune by Deep Purple they did; it's decent. The mp3 I have though, he's talking at the end, and it goes onto him announcing playing Face of Melinda and then get's cut off. This implies to me that the entire show must have been recorded, that means Benighted, To Bid You Farewell, and Face of Melinda, all live, as well as the Damnation set and Harvest, just what Lamentations should have been like! *heart flutters*

Does anyone know where I could get a hold of them? I've been searching.. but need I help, I used Limewire to get that one mp3, luckily.

Blanka Flip
12-28-2005, 09:34 PM
Quick question guys. Sorry if you've been asked, I've been so busy lately. Is Lopez back playing yet? I hope to catch the whole REAL Opeth onthis 06 tour!

Deth
12-28-2005, 09:36 PM
I don't think so. I would have thought that they would have announced it.

Hells Bells
12-28-2005, 10:21 PM
Even if he had have gotten better, I wouldn't expect to see him on this tour. Touring is very demanding, and he probably wouldn't handle it well after recovering from something like that.

Killtacular
12-28-2005, 11:33 PM
Is it just me, or is the light set from Lamentations a little boring?

Cmon, be honest, now.

i am the robots
12-28-2005, 11:36 PM
I think the set for Lamentations is great, no flaws there, just things I could've asked for, but then again, if Opeth played my least favorite of their songs I'd be happy.

Killtacular
12-28-2005, 11:50 PM
I would've felt fufilled if they played Blackwater Park and Patterns in the Ivy, along with what was there.

I barely ever watch any of the light set. It's just... I dunno. Not very exciting.

I love Damnation, though.

Deth
12-29-2005, 09:36 AM
It would be better if there wasn't a 2 minute break between songs.

MidnightRider
12-29-2005, 10:39 AM
What is everyone's favorite Opeth instrumental?

Mine is Requiem, it sounds so medieval.

Txus
12-29-2005, 10:52 AM
What is everyone's favorite Opeth instrumental?

Mine is Requiem, it sounds so medieval.
Patterns In The Ivy is great.

Darkness
12-29-2005, 10:54 AM
Is it just me, or is the light set from Lamentations a little boring?

Cmon, be honest, now.
No!! It's perfect!! :angry:

Toaster
12-29-2005, 10:59 AM
Is it just me, or is the light set from Lamentations a little boring?

Cmon, be honest, now.

It's not you. I'd much rather watch fast, heavy music on a video than slow, unchallenging soft music. I'd love that set list if I were actually at that concert, but you just don't get the same feeling watching it from a couch.

ok lateralus
12-29-2005, 01:31 PM
Eh, I enjoy watching both sets

UpperDecker
12-29-2005, 01:43 PM
I was kinda dissappointed with Lamentations. I mean they play good songs but they play just about all of Damnation. I was really looking forward to Demon of the Fall at the end but oh well. They still played cause everyone says they play that as the encore.

denboy
12-29-2005, 01:47 PM
They weren't allowed to put pre blackwater park songs on the album. Copyright issues and such

Txus
12-29-2005, 01:50 PM
Eh, I enjoy watching both sets
The same here, I've seen the DVD too many times....we need a new one! :amaze:

i am the robots
12-29-2005, 02:05 PM
I'd have to say either Requiem or For Absent Friends as my favorite Opeth instrumental.

Lord Abortion
12-29-2005, 02:59 PM
NP-Hours of wealth...wow, is all I can say.

Shadius
12-29-2005, 05:09 PM
Is it just me, or is the light set from Lamentations a little boring?

Cmon, be honest, now.

Thats sorta what I was saying. Well.. I didn't find it boring, but it wasn't perfect, I personally think they should have held off the release until their record company could get To Bid you Farewell, Benighted, Face of Melinda and maybe any cover songs they'd wanted to do, ie: the Soldier of Fortune cover, though they're releasing that on the Ghost Reveries SE anyways. it felt a little incomplete without those songs, is all i'd say.

Jude
12-29-2005, 05:11 PM
What is everyone's favorite Opeth instrumental?

Mine is Requiem, it sounds so medieval.
Mine is probably Reqiuem, too. Although Epilogue is really great.

Flynn
12-29-2005, 05:16 PM
What is everyone's favorite Opeth instrumental?

Mine is Requiem, it sounds so medieval.


I have to agree. Requiem is beautiful; Uplifting.

ok lateralus
12-29-2005, 05:59 PM
Yes, it is

Orchid is a masterpiece of sorts, no doubt about that

Flynn
12-29-2005, 06:05 PM
I'm currently working on the acousic riffs right before the outro to the song In Mist She Was Standing. It's hard to get it to sound like it does on the album. I record one track, and trying to play the other 2 tracks by ear. It's 2 guitars and bass.

Flynn
12-29-2005, 06:05 PM
Yes, it is

Orchid is a masterpiece of sorts, no doubt about that



Yeah it is.

Darkness
12-29-2005, 06:08 PM
I'm currently working on Patterns in the Ivy.


Thats probably my fav Opeth instrumental, it just fits so perfectly right before Blackwater Park.

Shadius
12-29-2005, 06:10 PM
Mines probably Epilogue from My Arms, Your Hearse. Though I love most of them. That album though has the best intro and outro of any Opeth album, I rekon. Shame about some of the actual tracks.

Flynn
12-29-2005, 06:10 PM
I'm currently working on Patterns in the Ivy.


Thats probably my fav Opeth instrumental, it just fits so perfectly right before Blackwater Park.



Yes indeed. I can play some of Patterns In The Ivy II, I haven't gave it that much time though, only a few minutes.

Darkness
12-29-2005, 06:14 PM
Yes indeed. I can play some of Patterns In The Ivy II, I haven't gave it that much time though, only a few minutes.
I plan on learning that next, along with Still Day Beneath The Sun.


Those songs are wonderfull.

Shadius
12-29-2005, 06:15 PM
I plan on learning that next, along with Still Day Beneath The Sun.


Those songs are wonderfull.

I started trying to learn that, but need a capo. :(

Darkness
12-29-2005, 06:15 PM
I started trying to learn that, but need a capo. :(
I just got one at the beginning of the month for my acoustic. :thumb:

It was like, 6 bucks, and it works perfectly.

Flynn
12-29-2005, 06:16 PM
I plan on learning that next, along with Still Day Beneath The Sun.


Those songs are wonderfull.


As soon as I get a Capo, I can try Still Day Beneath The Sun. I keep procrastinating it. :smash:

Darkness
12-29-2005, 06:18 PM
As soon as I get a Capo, I can try Still Day Beneath The Sun. I keep procrastinating it. :smash:
Doesn't Patterns II need a capo also? I could be mistaken.

Flynn
12-29-2005, 06:22 PM
Doesn't Patterns II need a capo also? I could be mistaken.


You can use a capo, you really don't need one though.

http://metaltabs.com/tab/8150/

denboy
12-29-2005, 06:25 PM
You need a capo if you want to play it in the correct key.. If you don't use a capo for Patterns in the ivy II, you might aswell not use a capo for still day beneath the sun

Flynn
12-29-2005, 06:26 PM
You need a capo if you want to play it in the correct key.. If you don't use a capo for Patterns in the ivy II, you might aswell not use a capo for still day beneath the sun


yeah, It sounds like crap without a capo. The correct way would be to play it like they do, with a capo. Or tune up a half step for Patterns II because the capo is on the first fret.

denboy
12-29-2005, 06:27 PM
You're confusing me, if you play patterns in the ivy II without a capo, surely you can play still day beneath the sun without a capo?

Shadius
12-29-2005, 06:29 PM
You're confusing me, if you play patterns in the ivy II without a capo, surely you can play still day beneath the sun without a capo?

You can if you tune up. Or have extremely long fingers, if you want to play it correctly, in key, as you say.

denboy
12-29-2005, 06:31 PM
Yeah, but he already mentioned he isn't playing patterns in the ivy II in the right key.. So I can't see what's stopping him