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Toaster
11-21-2005, 08:43 PM
It beats Damnation, in my opinion. Way more interesting.

Txus
11-21-2005, 08:43 PM
I think my list would go something like this:
BWP
Damnation
Still Life
Deliverance
Morningrise
MAYH
Ghost Reveries
Orchid

Kage
11-21-2005, 08:44 PM
I know there's not much love for Harlequin Forest 'round these parts, but I love that song. It's somewhere near being my favorite Opeth song. Not to mention Ghost of Perdition...Baying of the Hounds...Atonement. I think it's a great album, full of variety and excellent atmosphere.

Killtacular
11-21-2005, 08:46 PM
It beats Damnation, in my opinion. Way more interesting.
Pfff. How do you figure that?

Toaster
11-21-2005, 08:47 PM
I've said it before, but I think Damnation isn't even Opeth. The songwriting is simple, they don't balance light with heavy.. don't get me started. :p

Mr. Ron
11-21-2005, 08:48 PM
ghost reveries is not nearly as bad as you are saying it is. better than orchid, thats for sure. i like the diversity in GR
Absolutely not.

Txus
11-21-2005, 08:51 PM
I know there's not much love for Harlequin Forest 'round these parts, but I love that song. It's somewhere near being my favorite Opeth song. Not to mention Ghost of Perdition...Baying of the Hounds...Atonement. I think it's a great album, full of variety and excellent atmosphere.
Oh man i love that song, in fact is becoming my fav. opeth song....the vocals blend so perfect with the music...i love it man!:D

Hells Bells
11-21-2005, 08:51 PM
Edit: Here's a segment of a song I recorded this morning. It's quality is garbage, but the song is really cool live. Check it out.

http://d20.yousendit.com/C/231PI4TFHD25Q1RNYIT4XCEK10/The%20Fall%20Of%20Osyrus%20(Complete).wav

I'm sure no one expects studio quality from something you recorded in your basement :p

Cool song though. It sounds like you took a page out of Opeth's book with that acoustic break, and the fact that you broke off into it right from the heavier section.

I'm trying to get into new bands.


I've heard the great conjuring and I was floored. What are some other good things to check out from them?

Ie, an awesome album to buy?

For bands, pay attention to the ones people around here whore, that's how I found most of the ones I've gotten into recently. For Opeth albums, I'd go with Blackwater Park or MAYH, both have a good balance of their soft/heavy styles. Or, if you really liked the Grand Conjuration, get Ghost Reveries...ignore the GR haters in this thread, it's a great album.

Kage
11-21-2005, 08:52 PM
Oh man i love that song, in fact is becoming my fav. opeth song....the vocals blend so perfect with the music...i love it man!:D
The vocal melodies are amazing on that song. I love the guitar sound, too. And the outro is awesome. It's definately in my top five Opeth songs.

Toaster
11-21-2005, 08:53 PM
It's just so.. droning. It goes on for soooo long, the intro seems like it's never going to end. There's also a lack of inventiveness. I mean one riff is just open harmonics. It's Opeth's songwriting at it's lowest, IMO.

I'm feeling angry.

Killtacular
11-21-2005, 08:54 PM
I've said it before, but I think Damnation isn't even Opeth. The songwriting is simple, they don't balance light with heavy.. don't get me started. :p
GR seems to just chuck in heavy and light parts willy nilly without much thought behind them. Then there's those full on light songs that are no where near what I love from Damnation. It's just disappointment in disc form.

I've been disappointed a lot this year. Perhaps my standards are too high. Octavarium was crap, GR was alright, and Takk was barely above average.

Meh.

Toaster
11-21-2005, 08:57 PM
At least we have This Godless Endeavour to put on. And BTBAM. And Nile.

Come on, it hasn't been such a bad year.

Kage
11-21-2005, 09:07 PM
It's been a great year for me. GR, Pelican, Arcturus, Porcupine Tree, Dredg, Sigur Ros, Red Sparrowes...the list goes on.

Hells Bells
11-21-2005, 09:07 PM
Annihlation of the Wicked and This Godless Endeavor, Hellfire Club, The System Has Failed, Majestic, and Sideshow Symphonies are all great reasons to be happy about this year, and GR is just another plus for me. Opeth's sound evolved with GR, and that's always hard to get used to when you really liked the band's older style.

firemoth12
11-21-2005, 09:38 PM
... Or, if you really liked the Grand Conjuration, get Ghost Reveries...ignore the GR haters in this thread, it's a great album.


Yeah, seriously. Ghost Reveries is one of the most amazing albums I've ever listened to...opeth or not. I like their others too (I own BWP and Damnation...heard others). I like GR just as much though. I think some of you need to take another listen and set your standards a little lower.

There always seems to be this attitude about any band: one album is good (or "old stuff is good") and new album ("new stuff") sucks. Well...I don't understand. Opeth is one example...GR is just so amazing, I can listen to it over and over again and marvel at the soft parts and everything. Another example is In Flames...at first Soundtrack to your Escape sounded pretty bad...but after actually listening to it, it became one of my favorite albums.

sheesh

Killtacular
11-21-2005, 09:42 PM
At least we have This Godless Endeavour to put on. And BTBAM. And Nile. Come on, it hasn't been such a bad year.
I didn't really like Alaska. Annihation is pretty good, though.

Det_Nosnip
11-21-2005, 09:52 PM
I think some of you need to take another listen and set your standards a little lower.

For the love of God, NO!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Darkness
11-21-2005, 10:11 PM
Such a shame D&D is so underrated 'round here.
:(
Those are some of my favorites. :upset:
Annihation is pretty good, though.
You finally heard the rest of it?


I'm not going to join in on the Ghost Reveries bashing, I still enjoy the album, buts nowhere near the others for me. I just don't get the same feeling from it...

Kage
11-21-2005, 10:25 PM
I confess that I still have not heard all of Damnation. I really want to, though. Deliverance is a good album, but feels incomplete to me...maybe because I need to hear the second part of it. :)

Darkness
11-21-2005, 10:27 PM
I can send you either, if you want. Or just the parts you don't have.

Kage
11-21-2005, 10:30 PM
What I meant by the second part of Deliverance was Damnation. :p Deliverance was the first Opeth album I bought, and I was kind of turned off of them by it, honestly. Then I heard Blackwater Park and rushed out to the store to buy it, and was hooked.

But, yeah, if you could send me Damnation, that'd be awesome.

Darkness
11-21-2005, 10:32 PM
You have Soulseek? Or should I bundle it up into winzip for you then upload to yousendit?

Kage
11-21-2005, 10:34 PM
Yeah, I've got slsk.

Darkness
11-21-2005, 10:36 PM
Contact me Lateralus509.

Kage
11-21-2005, 10:58 PM
It says you're offline.

Darkness
11-21-2005, 11:00 PM
Try again. I'm in the chatroom mxrockandmetal, if you still can't find me.

Hells Bells
11-21-2005, 11:02 PM
For the love of God, NO!!!!!!!!!

Whoa...chill :lol:
If people want to lower their standards, that's their problem, but I personally don't think you need to lower your standards to appreciate GR...

Darkness
11-21-2005, 11:05 PM
Try again. I'm in the chatroom mxrockandmetal, if you still can't find me.
Bumping this post, incase Kage didn't see..

Edit: Kage I'm actually leaveing now, but my soulseek will stay on (all night), so just take whatever you want.

Kage
11-21-2005, 11:10 PM
Bumping this post, incase Kage didn't see..

Edit: Kage I'm actually leaveing now, but my soulseek will stay on (all night), so just take whatever you want.
Hmm..I still can't seem to find you. Hold on, let me try and restart my slsk.

Darkness
11-21-2005, 11:11 PM
Just go to the room dude... Lateralus509

Kage
11-21-2005, 11:21 PM
I went into the room and no one else was in there. Wtf.

penelope_weird_hands
11-22-2005, 12:14 AM
i don't understand how anyone couldn't really get into ghost reveries.
it is a great album, very versatile and sonically balanced.
the riffs, acoustic parts and songwriting in general is fvucking fantastic and vocally he is supreme in comparison to the other albums..(IMO)

though it seems i've noticed i'm quite the opposite of some of the more oldschool (for lack of a better word) fans on the forum here..
i find the older albums harder to listen to than deliverance, ghost reveries, damnation and blackwater park.
for what it's worth i think i need to listen to orchid, morningrise and my arms, your hearse alot more.. i believe that for some bands/albums i don't hear the same thing as fans of the bands/albums hear.. if you know what i mean..?
it's hard to explain.
sometimes it just takes more listens to appreciate some music holistically.

but it shouldn't matter what era of opeth one likes better than another..to each their own as the cliche goes.. and the fact remains that opeth has been and is still unbelievably good since its existence and most importantly.. continues to develop and evolve.

definately a band with something for everyone to enjoy.
which is why we all lub teh opeth. ;)

ElectricalStorm
11-22-2005, 12:52 AM
Wow, that was in-depth. Good work. I'd discuss, but anything I could say would seem inferior compared to that behemoth of a post.

Well therein lies the double-edged sword. If it weren't in depth then it wouldn't be worth discussing in the first place.

I'm not suggesting that everyone write the same amount I did, that would be asking too much and would in a way be futile. The groundwork has been laid out, everyone elses job should be a little bit easier now. If you guys don't have anything to say about April Ethereal, what about When? What is revealed in that song that gives us a greater understanding of the plot? Any size post would be appreciated.

And this isn't a contest btw, where one post can be deemed better than the other, every post adds something unique--a different spin on the same content that may add to the greater understanding of the whole.

To those interested the analysis is on pg 275 of this thread. I appreciate the compliments guys but I would also love to see some thought as well.

P.S. Good post Penelope. I used to play ST myself btw.

ArcLite
11-22-2005, 12:53 AM
I don't have an era of preferance. I enjoy elements of everything, from Orchid to Ghost Reveries. I've loved hearing the progression they've made in recent albums, but I still enjoy the rawness of the earlier productions.

epihasi
11-22-2005, 04:09 AM
MAYH being probably my favorite album, I aswell cannot understand this GR-bashing. I know, the first times I listened, I was like "WHAT"? But when later listening to the same songs, I realized I just hadn't paid enough attention to the tracks. For example, Ghost of Perdition, the part at 2.47, what he does with his voice and the instruments, is just plain incredible. When I heard that, I thought, "why didn't I pay attention before"? This is what makes Opeth so great, their ablility to make you find something new every time you listen to the same song. And on Ghost Reveries, this is very common. I love what they've done with their sound, they've evolved. Don't get me wrong, I'm A Die-Hard fan of their earlier material, as I am of the new. Ia mnot going to wirte here, that GR is the best album ever, or the worst of Opeth albums. I just cannot say that Opeth has a "worst of". Every album brings something new and fresh, which I enjoy. It's been said a million times, but just give Ghost Reveries another listen. It doesn't have to grow on you, you don't even have to like it very much, you all just have to realize, that this album is not bad.

Purity
11-22-2005, 08:35 AM
Title speaks it all mates,
I need to find out Opeth's 'heaviest' cd, full of chaos in riffs and music, one right after another, each song. The fastest, and the heaviest! Any ideas?

Jude
11-22-2005, 09:03 AM
Title speaks it all mates,
I need to find out Opeth's 'heaviest' cd, full of chaos in riffs and music, one right after another, each song. The fastest, and the heaviest! Any ideas?
Deliverance is generally considered the heaviest album, because it's got the highest heavy:soft ratio. It still has soft parts, but the majority is heavy.

Lord of Sword
11-22-2005, 04:23 PM
another recommendation post....

i've got blackwater park and ghost reveries, both from neurotoxin's daily upload, but i've been meaning to buy an opeth album for a while. i'm thinking of getting still life, partly because it's only £6.99, and partly because white cluster and the moor, the only other songs i have by them, are my two favourite opeth tracks. out of the other two albums, i prefer ghost reveries and the baying of the hounds is probably my favourite song off that. so would still life be the best album for me to buy?

Darkness
11-22-2005, 05:01 PM
I went into the room and no one else was in there. Wtf.
Whoa... sounds like you have some issues to work out.

Toaster
11-22-2005, 05:03 PM
Heaviest cd? I'd say either MAYH, BWP or GR. I think GR is probably the most traditionally "metal", though. His growling is the best on it too.

What is soulseek, out of curiosity?

Darkness
11-22-2005, 05:12 PM
Heaviest cd? I'd say either MAYH, BWP or GR. I think GR is probably the most traditionally "metal", though. His growling is the best on it too.

What is soulseek, out of curiosity?
... You forgot Deliverance.

Its a p2p program. And GR is their softest... I think anyway.

Toaster
11-22-2005, 05:15 PM
Deliverance really isn't that heavy. There are a couple riffs that are heavier, yeah, but it's more or less like every other Opeth album, in terms of heaviness. I still love it, don't get me wrong.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 05:18 PM
... Really? You'd argue that Wreath is equally as heavy as say, The Funeral Portrait?

Oh well, I guess our opinions differ on what heaviness is. I still think GR is their softest (save D-nation).

Toaster
11-22-2005, 05:24 PM
Well by the numbers, Deliverance is heavier. It has a higher distortion-to-clean ratio, if you know what I mean. But I just find that although it tries to be really heavy with the simple riffs and stuff, it's not as heavy as the sum of it's parts. GR has lots of light parts, but when the heavy parts come it's just insane to me.

I revise my previous statement, Deliverance is the most traditionally metal.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 05:29 PM
I find the riffs are much more aggressive then on GR, and Mikeals growls seem a lot more... gut renchingly heavy (Wreath, as an example again).

BurningSky
11-22-2005, 05:30 PM
MAYH is the heaviest album, IMO...

Opeth's heaviest moment is in Demon of the Fall, after the first acoustic part, when Mikael kicks in with that scream. A mosh pit never fails to encompass an entire venue when they play that...

Toaster
11-22-2005, 05:31 PM
It would be way heavier with some better production. It would be so cool if they redid their older albums, say from Orchid to My Arms.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 05:33 PM
It would be way heavier with some better production. It would be so cool if they redid their older albums, say from Orchid to My Arms.
Now this, I agree with. Yes, the rawness add's some new effects and originallity to the older ones, but man, they would sound so much better with some nice BWP styled production.

Jude
11-22-2005, 05:56 PM
another recommendation post....

i've got blackwater park and ghost reveries, both from neurotoxin's daily upload, but i've been meaning to buy an opeth album for a while. i'm thinking of getting still life, partly because it's only £6.99, and partly because white cluster and the moor, the only other songs i have by them, are my two favourite opeth tracks. out of the other two albums, i prefer ghost reveries and the baying of the hounds is probably my favourite song off that. so would still life be the best album for me to buy?
Holy crap, Still Life for that cheap? GO FOR IT. Of course I don't know how cheap that actually is, since I can't convert pounds to US dollars.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 06:12 PM
It's still a good deal, and the album I'd recommened to get next.

Cain
11-22-2005, 06:19 PM
Now this, I agree with. Yes, the rawness add's some new effects and originallity to the older ones, but man, they would sound so much better with some nice BWP styled production.

O Yeh.

That would seriously make my life. Too bad Mikael and Co. hate those two albums.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 06:20 PM
O Yeh.

That would seriously make my life. Too bad Mikael and Co. hate those two albums.
Yeah, to bad. :upset:

Well Mikeal said one thing that really bugged him was the vocals on those albums... now he can redo them with his new kick arse vocals we see on the lastest albums...

Cain
11-22-2005, 06:24 PM
Yeah, a remixed "Morningrise" would most likely become Opeth's best-selling album. Then they could release "To Bid you Farewell" as a single and own everything out there now. :D

Stormrider
11-22-2005, 06:25 PM
Yeah, to bad. :upset:

Well Mikeal said one thing that really bugged him was the vocals on those albums... now he can redo them with his new kick arse vocals we see on the lastest albums...

Todays vocals by Mikael are awsome, no doubt about it but, the vocals back then go well with the music IMO.

Cain
11-22-2005, 06:28 PM
Todays vocals by Mikael are awsome, no doubt about it but, the vocals back then go well with the music IMO.

He's probably referring to the horribly out-of-tune clean vocals.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 06:30 PM
I'm not to big into his old scream, either. Its still alright, but I think sometimes it clashes with the music. That could all be perfectly fixed with Steven Wilson helping out...

Stormrider
11-22-2005, 06:33 PM
I'm not to big into his old scream, either. Its still alright, but I think sometimes it clashes with the music. That could all be perfectly fixed with Steven Wilson helping out...

I like his old scream, but im still glad that it "evolved".

Darkness
11-22-2005, 06:36 PM
I like his old scream, but im still glad that it "evolved".
I'm very glad it did. It just didn't have the power that his new one does, he couldn't of made the line "The lepers coiled neath the trees" as magical is it is if he used his old growl. But again, my opinion.

Jude
11-22-2005, 06:44 PM
The old albums are fine the way they are. I don't think they would sound right with modern production and the new growling style, and especially not with Mendez as opposed to the old bassist. The bass on Morningrise is totally unlike anything Opeth has done afterward.

Sometimes you should just leave well enough alone; if it ain't broke, why fix it?

So I've been trying to do a Mikael-style death growl, not because I'd ever want to use it in a song, but just so I can. I can't figure out how he does it though.

Shattered_Future
11-22-2005, 06:47 PM
It helps if you keep your mouth as closed as possible...makes it quite a bit lower.

Toaster
11-22-2005, 06:49 PM
I find also that if you hold your tongue against the top of your mouth, only leaving a small hole, it takes on a Necrophagist vibe. You can't say anything with it, not that that matters. :p

Jude
11-22-2005, 06:49 PM
It's not like I know anything about death vocals anyway. I'm not even sure how to do it without messing up your throat.

Cain
11-22-2005, 06:51 PM
It's not like I know anything about death vocals anyway. I'm not even sure how to do it without messing up your throat.

There's actually an extensive thread on proper screaming in the Jam Session forum last time I checked. You might want to look there.

Jude
11-22-2005, 06:55 PM
There's actually an extensive thread on proper screaming in the Jam Session forum last time I checked. You might want to look there.
I looked at the first few pages of it but it mostly seemed to be focused more on 'screaming' (as in screamo vocals or Slayer-type stuff) and I ran out of time to sift through it or something.

Cain
11-22-2005, 06:56 PM
I looked at the first few pages of it but it mostly seemed to be focused more on 'screaming' (as in screamo vocals or Slayer-type stuff) and I ran out of time to sift through it or something.

Ah, yeah, I thought it might have to do with that kind of thing.

Oh well, it was worth a shot. Maybe you should go to another Opeth show so you can get a free lesson. :p

Stormrider
11-22-2005, 06:58 PM
I heard somewhere that you dont use your throat, but your stomach for growling. that just makes it a lot harder.

vashts80
11-22-2005, 07:09 PM
You shouldn't use your throat to move the air, you should move your stomach to otherwise if you use your throat, you'll eventually hurt your vocal chords. This is why most of the time growlers keep their jaw open more than if you were singing, so their throat doesn't close and you have to use it

Toaster
11-22-2005, 07:15 PM
I think everything said about growling is just confusing. I do flex my stomache muscles, but I definitely feel it in my throat. It's not like you flex your abs and breathe out, and you're Mikael.

Morningrise
11-22-2005, 07:18 PM
The old albums are fine the way they are. I don't think they would sound right with modern production and the new growling style, and especially not with Mendez as opposed to the old bassist. The bass on Morningrise is totally unlike anything Opeth has done afterward.

Sometimes you should just leave well enough alone; if it ain't broke, why fix it?
I agree with you there.

Toaster
11-22-2005, 07:21 PM
It's not like the old albums would go out of print, but if they just redid them and maybe put them online only, it would be great IMO. I'd like to see a lot of bands do this, actually.

Shattered_Future
11-22-2005, 07:25 PM
Yea, better production and better vocals would make those albums even better than they already are.

Killtacular
11-22-2005, 07:33 PM
You shouldn't use your throat to move the air, you should move your stomach to otherwise if you use your throat, you'll eventually hurt your vocal chords.

I'll agree with this. During my unending free time at work, I've been practicing my Mikael growls. I've come to the conclusion that the best way is to take a big breath and just push as much air as possible out with your stomach while making a small hole in your mouth. This also results in many headaches on my part from lack of oxygen.

Good times.
I should record it later on, when I've practiced more.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 07:36 PM
I can really floor it with my stomach, but it hurts my throat, but it sounds bad ***. All these tips people give me just confuse the hell out of me.

Det_Nosnip
11-22-2005, 07:39 PM
O Yeh.

That would seriously make my life. Too bad Mikael and Co. hate those two albums.

Mikael wrote in the online diary that My Arms, Your Hearse is his favorite album.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 07:41 PM
Mikael wrote in the online diary that My Arms, Your Hearse is his favorite album.
I've heard him say that Still Life is his favorite...

Toaster
11-22-2005, 07:43 PM
I can really floor it with my stomach, but it hurts my throat, but it sounds bad ***. All these tips people give me just confuse the hell out of me.

My throat used to hurt, but one time I just went until the growl was totally raw and my throat felt about to burst. I couldn't talk for a couple minutes, but since then I've had this weird rough tissue in my throat (or something) that lets me growl without much effort or pain.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 07:45 PM
My throat used to hurt, but one time I just went until the growl was totally raw and my throat felt about to burst. I couldn't talk for a couple minutes, but since then I've had this weird rough tissue in my throat (or something) that lets me growl without much effort or pain.
I'd like that.. I think my growl can sound good, but I don't want to go through that whole bursting thing. :lol:

Cain
11-22-2005, 07:46 PM
I've heard him say that Still Life is his favorite...

'Tis my favorite. :D

Det- I was referring to Orchid and Morningrise...

MAYH is definitely underrated though. The songwriting on that album is top-notch. The metal sections are definitely on a peerless level of intensity.

Moses
11-22-2005, 07:46 PM
It's not like I know anything about death vocals anyway. I'm not even sure how to do it without messing up your throat.
Death vocals are the easiest dirty vocals to me. Easy as talking once you get the technique down.:thumb:

His new dirty vocals own but I never really liked his clean vocals. To me they don't sound good unless it's layered up like on Still Day Beneath The Sun.

Killtacular
11-22-2005, 07:47 PM
I can really floor it with my stomach, but it hurts my throat, but it sounds bad ***. All these tips people give me just confuse the hell out of me.
Sometimes it works well and sometimes it doesn't. I find when I have a nice layer of snot in my throat it works especially well. (it's really there, you have one, too, so stop being a nancy and wetting yourself)

I suppose you should have a nice swallow to lube up the food tube before you go shouting about like a yeti.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 07:48 PM
Death vocals are the easiest dirty vocals to me. Easy as talking once you get the technique down.:thumb:
What's your technique? (I think you've told me before, but I've forgotten)

Toaster
11-22-2005, 07:56 PM
Sometimes it works well and sometimes it doesn't. I find when I have a nice layer of snot in my throat it works especially well. (it's really there, you have one, too, so stop being a nancy and wetting yourself)

I suppose you should have a nice swallow to lube up the food tube before you go shouting about like a yeti.

I used to just use the snot in my throat, but I could only do that for a couple minutes or so because it would be too hard not to swallow. :p I try to practice with zero mucus (sp) now.

Killtacular
11-22-2005, 07:59 PM
I used to just use the snot in my throat, but I could only do that for a couple minutes or so because it would be too hard not to swallow. :p I try to practice with zero mucus (sp) now.
That sounds... painful.

I pity you for that. Such self-mutilation is for emo-kids.

Moses
11-22-2005, 08:04 PM
What's your technique? (I think you've told me before, but I've forgotten)
Hmmm.... I can't remember how I explained it before. I'll try again. Point your tongue and bring it back a little on the roof of your mouth past the teeth and where the bend starts and go "OOO!!!" or "EEE!!". Sorry but that's the best I can do :lol: .

Toaster
11-22-2005, 08:05 PM
To Scruples: I think the fact that I growl takes me off the emo kid list. You, however, have a fairy in your avatar. :D

ok lateralus
11-22-2005, 08:07 PM
Hmm, after listening to both lately, I've been maybe thinking MAYH is slightly superior to Still Life. Just the overall quality is amazing, whereas maybe some parts of Still Life could be better.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 08:07 PM
Hmmm.... I can't remember how I explained it before. I'll try again. Point your tongue and bring it back a little on the roof of your mouth past the teeth and where the bend starts and go "OOO!!!" or "EEE!!". Sorry but that's the best I can do :lol: .
Where the bend starts? :confused:

Forget it. :lol:

Toaster
11-22-2005, 08:09 PM
Hmmm.... I can't remember how I explained it before. I'll try again. Point your tongue and bring it back a little on the roof of your mouth past the teeth and where the bend starts and go "OOO!!!" or "EEE!!". Sorry but that's the best I can do :lol: .

Hey, I do that too!! Cool. The bend is the thing at the roof of your mouth right after your teeth. It isn't useful for pronunciation, but it's awesome when holding growls.

Moses
11-22-2005, 08:09 PM
I don't know. Would dome be a better explanation?

To Scruples: I think the fact that I growl takes me off the emo kid list. You, however, have a fairy in your avatar. :D
Wow, new guy pwning. :lol:

/realizes he's not that old here either.

Darkness
11-22-2005, 08:17 PM
I'm older then all of you. :D

Killtacular
11-22-2005, 08:21 PM
To Scruples: I think the fact that I growl takes me off the emo kid list. You, however, have a fairy in your avatar.
It's an angel!! A vengeful angel!!
:mad:
Hmm, after listening to both lately, I've been maybe thinking MAYH is slightly superior to Still Life. Just the overall quality is amazing, whereas maybe some parts of Still Life could be better.
Quit that lyin' boy, or you ain't gon' get no suppa.
Wow, new guy pwning.
Two threads in a row. Tonight just isn't my night.
(except I'm winning in the other thread. Heh heh.)

Moses
11-22-2005, 08:23 PM
Wrong. You aren't winning in the other thread. What makes you think that?

Killtacular
11-22-2005, 08:25 PM
Cuz I'm fuggin' Scruples.

*dances*

Moses
11-22-2005, 08:27 PM
That's just gay.

Cain
11-22-2005, 08:32 PM
That's just gay.

What a fairy.

Shattered_Future
11-22-2005, 08:41 PM
Looks like he's dingalingALING! HELLOOOOO!

*runs away prancing around in tutu*

Simpsons reference there, for those who don't know.

the-smart-kid-34
11-22-2005, 08:53 PM
i saw opeth live 2 weeks ago. and it was life changing. I love opeth and they are at least second when it comes to best bands. Only maybe to be beaten by porcupine tree and its close. But if you consider yourself a metal head and a musician you need to listen to opeth. or actually even if you arent a metal head. or a musician. they are beyond amazing.

i have Mikael Åkerfeldt's signature. and i talked to him for a good time and he looks much skinnier in person. In my opinion he is one of the best guitarists of recent history and he is by far the best death metal vocalist ever.

Kage
11-22-2005, 08:56 PM
i saw opeth live 2 weeks ago. and it was life changing. I love opeth and they are at least second when it comes to best bands. Only maybe to be beaten by porcupine tree and its close. But if you consider yourself a metal head and a musician you need to listen to opeth. or actually even if you arent a metal head. or a musician. they are beyond amazing.

i have Mikael Åkerfeldt's signature. and i talked to him for a good time and he looks much skinnier in person. In my opinion he is one of the best guitarists of recent history and he is by far the best death metal vocalist ever.
Nice post, always good to see a PT and Opeth fan. Mikeal is certainly one of my favorite vocalists, for his clean and growled vocals, and he's my favorite metal vocalist. Hell, Opeth is my favorite metal band.

Killtacular
11-22-2005, 09:45 PM
Why can't I stop listening to Nile?

Why!!?

Morningrise
11-22-2005, 11:22 PM
Why can't I stop listening to Nile?

Why!!?
I give Annihilation of the Wicked at least a couple of spins a week. That album just kicks you in the face from beginning to end! Definitely gets my vote as the #1 death metal release of the year :thumb:

vashts80
11-22-2005, 11:38 PM
I can really floor it with my stomach, but it hurts my throat, but it sounds bad ***. All these tips people give me just confuse the hell out of me.

After a little while of doing growls using your throat for lowness and prununciation (SP? heh) and stomach for air movement, it won't hurt anymore. I did DM growls that way for a half-hour a day for like two weeks straight and my throat is fine now

Mr. Ron
11-22-2005, 11:40 PM
Why can't I stop listening to Nile?

Why!!?
I have only heard Nile 2 times in my whole life. True story.

Kage
11-22-2005, 11:40 PM
I have only heard Nile 2 times in my whole life. True story.
:eek: I've only heard them once and had no desire to do so again. =\

Mr. Ron
11-22-2005, 11:42 PM
:eek: I've only heard them once and had no desire to do so again. =\
I don't even remember what they sound like.:lol:

Cain
11-22-2005, 11:43 PM
:eek: I've only heard them once and had no desire to do so again. =\

Yeah, me either. They're too grumpy and low-pitched for me to discern any music within the blazing-fast riffage I heard. Intensity is good, but one of the things that makes Opeth so great is a keen sense of dynamics. This is something that I thought Nile lacked a bit.

Kage
11-22-2005, 11:45 PM
Yeah, me either. They're too grumpy and low-pitched for me to discern any music within the blazing-fast riffage I heard. Intensity is good, but one of the things that makes Opeth so great is a keen sense of dynamics. This is something that I thought Nile lacked a bit.
You hit the nail on the head there.

Cain
11-22-2005, 11:48 PM
You hit the nail on the head there.

Thanks...I left you a message but only got to "C" in the signature before pressing the ok button. It's from me, just FYI. :)

Morningrise
11-22-2005, 11:51 PM
Yeah, me either. They're too grumpy and low-pitched for me to discern any music within the blazing-fast riffage I heard. Intensity is good, but one of the things that makes Opeth so great is a keen sense of dynamics. This is something that I thought Nile lacked a bit.
Heh, very true... you gotta be in the right mood to listen to Nile. Otherwise it just sounds like a wall of noise.

Cain
11-22-2005, 11:52 PM
Heh, very true... you gotta be in the right mood to listen to Nile. Otherwise it just sounds like a wall of noise.

Yeah, exactly. Wall of noise just about sums it up. :)

Kage
11-23-2005, 12:00 AM
Thanks...I left you a message but only got to "C" in the signature before pressing the ok button. It's from me, just FYI. :)
Thanks, man; I'm getting there in terms of stars. :)

That reminds me, I need to make up my list of top R&Mers.

NP: Baying of the Hounds...I don't know how anyone could not like this song. (or album, for that matter) :)

Det_Nosnip
11-23-2005, 12:51 AM
I'm older then all of you. :D

Not me.

Det_Nosnip
11-23-2005, 12:53 AM
I have only heard Nile 2 times in my whole life. True story.

I have never heard them. Also a true story. I really like the cover of their new album, though....snakes rule. :cool:

Deth
11-23-2005, 06:55 AM
Annihilation Of The Wicked is a fantastic album. It may be making a push for my top 5 of the year.

Sometimes I just want brute aggression.

Toaster
11-23-2005, 02:55 PM
I love how the album starts, right after the soft intro it just hammers into Cast Down The Heretic.. I love that song, even if it is impossible to discern any riffs. I think it's my album of the year.

Their new drummer kicks ***.

firemoth12
11-23-2005, 03:54 PM
On the VH1 show "Kid star parents exposed" during the aaron carter scene, they played Windowpane by opeth. I was kind of surprised.

Spinal Pap
11-23-2005, 05:33 PM
NP: Baying of the Hounds...I don't know how anyone could not like this song. (or album, for that matter) :)

I despised it when I first heard it, but it's grown on me a lot. GR is a great album, best of '05 IMO.

NP:Ghost of Perdition...my favorite GR song. :thumb:

Kage
11-23-2005, 05:44 PM
Not me.
Or me.

Flynn
11-23-2005, 07:47 PM
I don't have an era of preferance. I enjoy elements of everything, from Orchid to Ghost Reveries. I've loved hearing the progression they've made in recent albums, but I still enjoy the rawness of the earlier productions.


Yeah me too, rawness is so sweet.





N.P. Across The Rainbow Bridge ~ Amon Amarth

Shattered_Future
11-23-2005, 08:12 PM
Mmmm...Amon Amarth. Soooo freaking viking. :lol:

Recently got a lot of their stuff today, thanks to Dancin' Man. :thumb:

I managed to figure out most of the first riff of The Grand Conjuration by ear today. I was proud of myself.

Spinal Pap
11-23-2005, 08:33 PM
I managed to figure out most of the first riff of The Grand Conjuration by ear today. I was proud of myself.

Cool. I tried doing that with The Drapery Falls once, but I could never work it out right.

Deth
11-23-2005, 09:33 PM
I got TGC by ear as well. Fun riff.

The Cynic
11-23-2005, 10:06 PM
I learned so many songs by ear because I have wayyyy to much time on my hands. But it's awesome when you learn songs like The Drapery Falls and April Ethereal.

Deth
11-23-2005, 10:09 PM
Can you do whole songs? If you can, I'm impressed.

If not, not so much :p.

Hells Bells
11-24-2005, 12:43 AM
I learned so many songs by ear because I have wayyyy to much time on my hands. But it's awesome when you learn songs like The Drapery Falls and April Ethereal.

You do have too much time on your hands, those are like 10 minute songs each :p
If you can do that though, that's awesome...I couldn't learn a song like that by ear for my life.

Killtacular
11-24-2005, 12:14 PM
Derp a derp a derpity derp.

Deth
11-24-2005, 12:19 PM
Don't make me come over there Scruples.

Shattered_Future
11-24-2005, 12:57 PM
I'd listen to him...

Only songs I've been able to figure out fully by ear were ones by Nirvana. :lol:

That was like 3 years ago though...

Killtacular
11-24-2005, 01:09 PM
Don't make me come over there Scruples.
I think you should.

/narrows eyes

scenesfromatheater
11-24-2005, 02:20 PM
Way hey, Opeth on Sunday....

The Eyyyeeeessssss. Of the Deeeevvviilllllll!!!!

Toaster
11-24-2005, 02:23 PM
I have a good ear. I can pretty much learn any song by ear while hearing it. I took piano for 8 or so years, I think if you start music at a young age your ear is that much better.

Stormrider
11-24-2005, 02:58 PM
I have a good ear. I can pretty much learn any song by ear while hearing it. I took piano for 8 or so years, I think if you start music at a young age your ear is that much better.

Lucky you. I only could figure out some riffs. Not very complicated ones though. Havnt realy tried though except for once or twice. And for tabbing out solos by ear, I suck.

Killtacular
11-24-2005, 06:14 PM
Stop letting the uber 1337 ( )peth thread die.

Werny
11-24-2005, 11:23 PM
*breathes life into the before-dead uber 1337 ()peth threadzorz*

BIIIIIG lovely Opeth poster for my wall. I love cheap magazines.

I don't really stay in the loop when it comes to Opeth so a question; have they said anything about touring Australia?

Jude
11-24-2005, 11:37 PM
I figure out a lot of Opeth stuff by ear on bass, but usually it's like I just figure out the main riffs of a song on bass, not the actual bassline. Because I don't notice Mendez's playing that much, the bass parts don't really stick out to me. I usually play parts of The Moor, the metal part from Face of Melinda, this one bass part from some part of Black Rose Immortal, and the first crazy riff on Bleak. The end riff of Closure is fun too.

pyroseraphin
11-24-2005, 11:38 PM
I bought the Blackwater park exactly. That is excellent. I first probably will die to become, voice left me, but when examining beforehand those, I was brought up those ways. I that could not look at that other every method is.

Det_Nosnip
11-25-2005, 12:22 AM
*breathes life into the before-dead uber 1337 ()peth threadzorz*

BIIIIIG lovely Opeth poster for my wall. I love cheap magazines.

I don't really stay in the loop when it comes to Opeth so a question; have they said anything about touring Australia?

Grrr...I've been looking for Opeth posters to help eliminate evil whitespace on my walls, to no avail. Does anyone know of any decent places that would sell them? Most of the merchandise links on Opeth's homepage links to shirts.

scenesfromatheater
11-25-2005, 04:55 AM
Anyone know what Opeth merch you can get at gigs?

Killtacular
11-25-2005, 12:42 PM
I bought the Blackwater park exactly. That is excellent. I first probably will die to become, voice left me, but when examining beforehand those, I was brought up those ways. I that could not look at that other every method is.
What is your first (native) language?

Deth
11-25-2005, 12:45 PM
Anyone know what Opeth merch you can get at gigs?
At the show I went to, it was just shirts, and all Ghost Reverie related ones at that.

*Rocking awesome 1337 usertitle*

Kage
11-25-2005, 12:46 PM
What is your first (native) language?
That's exactly what I was wondering. That looks like it came out of some auto-online translator.

As for Opeth posters, I've never seen them. If I had, I'd have bought one already.

scenesfromatheater
11-25-2005, 01:01 PM
At the show I went to, it was just shirts, and all Ghost Reverie related ones at that.

*Rocking awesome 1337 usertitle*
Hmmm... how much were they?

Toaster
11-25-2005, 05:05 PM
Choose..

1. Akerfeldt loses his harsh voice
2. Akerfeldt loses his clean voice
3. Akerfeldt loses his head, Opeth goes on
4. " " Opeth breaks up

Kage
11-25-2005, 05:07 PM
Number 4.

Shattered_Future
11-25-2005, 05:09 PM
If it had to come down to something...4. All the above elements are needed for Opeth.

the2stranger
11-25-2005, 05:14 PM
Anyone know what Opeth merch you can get at gigs?
shirts. long sleeves, hoodies, zipper hoodies, tong(!), cds, small posters, and I believe I even saw wristbands at the merch stand :eek:

Flynn
11-25-2005, 06:11 PM
shirts. long sleeves, hoodies, zipper hoodies, tong(!), cds, small posters, and I believe I even saw wristbands at the merch stand :eek:


That's cool, I like your avatar. ;)



Choose..

1. Akerfeldt loses his harsh voice
2. Akerfeldt loses his clean voice
3. Akerfeldt loses his head, Opeth goes on
4. " " Opeth breaks up


Neither.



N.P. Grand Failure Anthem ~ Soilwork

UpperDecker
11-25-2005, 10:15 PM
I have been wondering if Opeth have ever performed Black Rose Immortal live? anyone know?

SilverSpoon
11-25-2005, 10:18 PM
Choose..

1. Akerfeldt loses his harsh voice
2. Akerfeldt loses his clean voice
3. Akerfeldt loses his head, Opeth goes on
4. " " Opeth breaks up

Hm, that's tough. His growling is the best I've ever heard, and his clean vocals are so soothing! Losing his head...that's just gross. You're talking about decapitation, right? Or...was it insanity?

Opeth breaking up would break my heart.

Toaster
11-25-2005, 10:19 PM
Decapitation it was. :thumb:

Moses
11-25-2005, 10:56 PM
Choose..

1. Akerfeldt loses his harsh voice
2. Akerfeldt loses his clean voice
3. Akerfeldt loses his head, Opeth goes on
4. " " Opeth breaks up
Meh, I don't care much for his clean voice, they could get someone with a similar voice to fill in and Mikael could still do growls. Maybe Steve Wilson.

/is brainwashed by powermetal, jazz and opera vocals

Jude
11-25-2005, 10:59 PM
Hm, that's tough. His growling is the best I've ever heard, and his clean vocals are so soothing! Losing his head...that's just gross. You're talking about decapitation, right? Or...was it insanity?

Opeth breaking up would break my heart.
No, it's where his head just falls off for no reason. :eek: A very under-publicized medical condition.

His clean voice is awesome. Or maybe it's just the vocal melodies he writes.

Toaster
11-25-2005, 11:05 PM
Hey, I just remembered this.

In Lamentations, there's this really long video section that shows Opeth recording Damnation/Deliverance. At the end part, where Mikael and Wilson are recording vocals, I think you can hear Wilson talking about "tuning". You hear Mikael laying down some clean vocal tracks, and they're noticeably uneven and off-key. He comes out of the recording room and when they play it back, Wilson says something like, "It'll be better with tuning". This "tuning" is remarked upon several times by both men. When Wilson goes in to record vocals, he also sounds off-key. But later, when the two tracks are mixed, they are perfectly on pitch.

:eek: Is Wilson helping Akerfeldt cheat with his clean vocals?? It would explain the huge improvement between the clean vox on Still Life and BWP, seeing as Wilson produced the vocals on BWP and not Still Life. Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up.

/Conspiracy theory

whatduffhuck7
11-25-2005, 11:15 PM
i wouldnt mind opeth to keep the clean vocals, loose the growls, but keep the heavyness instuments. i like all the clean vox and heavy music songs they have. some songs the brutal vocals riuns them IMO.

one song were the brutal vocals improve it so much is the great coaglation (SP?) right when the brutal vocals come on that songs just gets so good.

scenesfromatheater
11-26-2005, 07:32 AM
I love Mike's clean voice like in Isolation years, but the growling in The Grand Conjuration is just awsome...and in most other songs.

nowitzki
11-26-2005, 10:27 AM
I'm seeing Opeth tomorrow, does anyone know who the support act will be?

Cain
11-26-2005, 10:54 AM
Hey, I just remembered this.

In Lamentations, there's this really long video section that shows Opeth recording Damnation/Deliverance. At the end part, where Mikael and Wilson are recording vocals, I think you can hear Wilson talking about "tuning". You hear Mikael laying down some clean vocal tracks, and they're noticeably uneven and off-key. He comes out of the recording room and when they play it back, Wilson says something like, "It'll be better with tuning". This "tuning" is remarked upon several times by both men. When Wilson goes in to record vocals, he also sounds off-key. But later, when the two tracks are mixed, they are perfectly on pitch.

:eek: Is Wilson helping Akerfeldt cheat with his clean vocals?? It would explain the huge improvement between the clean vox on Still Life and BWP, seeing as Wilson produced the vocals on BWP and not Still Life. Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up.

/Conspiracy theory

Well, the vocals do sound better in tune, don't they? :p And in any case, the vocals on Still Life sound better IMO than the ones on Still Life, and personally I think "tuning" only really works when we're dealing with harmonized vocals, which is what Mikael was laying down on that spot on the DVD.

And it's not as if Mikael "cheats" on his vocals live.

Spinal Pap
11-26-2005, 11:07 AM
the growling in The Grand Conjuration is just awsome.

Yes, second only to the growls in Black Rose Immortal.

scenesfromatheater
11-26-2005, 11:10 AM
I was going to buy an Opeth zip-up hoody today, but they only had them in Medium :upset:. I got an AC/DC one instead...and I don't even like them.

Spinal Pap
11-26-2005, 11:24 AM
Where did you see an Opeth hoody at?

Moses
11-26-2005, 11:44 AM
Well, the vocals do sound better in tune, don't they? :p And in any case, the vocals on Still Life sound better IMO than the ones on Still Life, and personally I think "tuning" only really works when we're dealing with harmonized vocals, which is what Mikael was laying down on that spot on the DVD.

And it's not as if Mikael "cheats" on his vocals live.
Ahem.....

Toaster
11-26-2005, 11:50 AM
Well, the vocals do sound better in tune, don't they? :p And in any case, the vocals on Still Life sound better IMO than the ones on Still Life, and personally I think "tuning" only really works when we're dealing with harmonized vocals, which is what Mikael was laying down on that spot on the DVD.

You meant BWP, yes?

I disagree. His vocals are off-key far more on Still Life. And let's be frank, he isn't as strong vocally as he is on the record (this is the case for most vocalists). And actually, Wilson was laying down harmonized vocals, on the "ahh" part in Master's Apprentices.

SilverSpoon
11-26-2005, 12:00 PM
I'm seeing Opeth tomorrow, does anyone know who the support act will be?

I'm not sure, but maybe Nevermore is still touring with them? I saw them a month ago with Nevermore, not sure if they're still there.

scenesfromatheater
11-26-2005, 12:34 PM
Where did you see an Opeth hoody at?

This small music shop called 'The Left legged Pineapple' in Loughborough. I was well annoyed it wasn't the right size :upset:.

Spinal Pap
11-26-2005, 01:12 PM
This small music shop called 'The Left legged Pineapple' in Loughborough. I was well annoyed it wasn't the right size :upset:.

Oh, I've been looking everywhere for one. I can't even find an Opeth shirt.

scenesfromatheater
11-26-2005, 01:14 PM
Oh, I've been looking everywhere for one. I can't even find an Opeth shirt.
Get one at a gig.:thumb:

Cain
11-26-2005, 01:14 PM
Ahem.....

:lol: Oops. Today isn't my most quick-witted day, sorry.

Spinal Pap
11-26-2005, 01:21 PM
Get one at a gig.:thumb:

I would but I doubt I'll be going to one anytime soon. No job/money. I'll check ebay.

scenesfromatheater
11-26-2005, 01:27 PM
I would but I doubt I'll be going to one anytime soon. No job/money. I'll check ebay.
I'm still waiting for a Scenes From a Memory tee off ebay...I've been waiting for 3 months :upset:. I guess it will never come.

Spinal Pap
11-26-2005, 01:38 PM
I'm still waiting for a Scenes From a Memory tee off ebay...I've been waiting for 3 months :upset:. I guess it will never come.

Wow, I'd be pissed. Didn't Shattered Future or someone post a link a while back to some site that sold apparel from a bunch of different bands? I think I'll go digging for it.

NP: A Perfect Circle - 3 Libras

the2stranger
11-26-2005, 01:55 PM
I buy most of my merch at gigs.
good stuff :)

Det_Nosnip
11-26-2005, 02:08 PM
Hey, I just remembered this.

In Lamentations, there's this really long video section that shows Opeth recording Damnation/Deliverance. At the end part, where Mikael and Wilson are recording vocals, I think you can hear Wilson talking about "tuning". You hear Mikael laying down some clean vocal tracks, and they're noticeably uneven and off-key. He comes out of the recording room and when they play it back, Wilson says something like, "It'll be better with tuning". This "tuning" is remarked upon several times by both men. When Wilson goes in to record vocals, he also sounds off-key. But later, when the two tracks are mixed, they are perfectly on pitch.

:eek: Is Wilson helping Akerfeldt cheat with his clean vocals?? It would explain the huge improvement between the clean vox on Still Life and BWP, seeing as Wilson produced the vocals on BWP and not Still Life. Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up.

/Conspiracy theory

My favorite Akerfeldt vocal performances were on Still Life, though. :upset:

Deth
11-26-2005, 03:58 PM
As long as he can sing it live, I have no problems with tuning.

Toaster
11-26-2005, 04:24 PM
My favorite Akerfeldt vocal performances were on Still Life, though. :upset:

Well obviously what you like is wrong.

Flynn
11-26-2005, 07:30 PM
Well, the vocals do sound better in tune, don't they? :p And in any case, the vocals on Still Life sound better IMO than the ones on Still Life, and personally I think "tuning" only really works when we're dealing with harmonized vocals, which is what Mikael was laying down on that spot on the DVD.

And it's not as if Mikael "cheats" on his vocals live.

:lol:

Jude
11-26-2005, 08:53 PM
the great coaglation (SP?)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's even better than "Large the Conspiracy!"

Hammer_of_the_Gods
11-26-2005, 10:04 PM
I have been wondering if Opeth have ever performed Black Rose Immortal live? anyone know?

Yep, they did the last time I saw them back in October. Not the first time however as they only had a 5 song set on the Sounds of the Underground Tour. So I'm pretty sure that if you see a show when they are the headlining band then it a song that they play quite often.


Not saying that they play it at every show though.

UpperDecker
11-26-2005, 10:15 PM
Yep, they did the last time I saw them back in October. Not the first time however as they only had a 5 song set on the Sounds of the Underground Tour. So I'm pretty sure that if you see a show when they are the headlining band then it a song that they play quite often.


Not saying that they play it at every show though.


Thanks for the info. Atleast you had the courtesy to answer my question.

Oriah
11-26-2005, 11:40 PM
whats your favorite Opeth album?

I can't decide

Spinal Pap
11-26-2005, 11:51 PM
Morningrise. It recently pulled ahead of BWP.

vashts80
11-27-2005, 12:22 AM
Thanks for the info. Atleast you had the courtesy to answer my question.

Opeth rarely play BRI live, as far as I know.

Det_Nosnip
11-27-2005, 12:26 AM
Well obviously what you like is wrong.

Easy, killer.

pyroseraphin
11-27-2005, 12:31 AM
What is your first (native) language?

I the English person of speech so far was always. In spite even to that, normal method of speech started being bored to me, therefore we had decided to mix thing into the small part. This one form a phrase that it perforates differently on from the generic crap that before heard each one much of more interesting.

JamJar
11-27-2005, 10:32 AM
I the English person of speech so far was always. In spite even to that, normal method of speech started being bored to me, therefore we had decided to mix thing into the small part. This one form a phrase that it perforates differently on from the generic crap that before heard each one much of more interesting.

*blinks stupidly*

Anway, my fave opeth album at the moment is probably BWP, it has recently just pulled ahead of SL.

Toaster
11-27-2005, 10:35 AM
I the English person of speech so far was always. In spite even to that, normal method of speech started being bored to me, therefore we had decided to mix thing into the small part. This one form a phrase that it perforates differently on from the generic crap that before heard each one much of more interesting.

I cannot understand that you speak. Your posts while in this string had no sense that. It - the entertainment, trying to understand them, though.

Txus
11-27-2005, 11:30 AM
whats your favorite Opeth album?

I can't decide
BWP for shure.

Killtacular
11-27-2005, 11:35 AM
Still Life.

Moses
11-27-2005, 11:38 AM
Bwp.

scenesfromatheater
11-27-2005, 11:38 AM
Ahh, about to set off to see the Opeth lads in Nottingham...Tah tah.:wave:

Mr. Squiggles
11-27-2005, 11:42 AM
Ahh, about to set off to see the Opeth lads in Nottingham...Tah tah.:wave:

Thats awsome, I wan't to see them really badly.

Shattered_Future
11-27-2005, 11:46 AM
Fave album: BWP, probably. Mikael's voice is so goddamn evil on it.

Oriah
11-27-2005, 12:02 PM
cool thanks guys...yeah I am really feeling BWP at the momment

JamJar
11-27-2005, 12:10 PM
Ahh, about to set off to see the Opeth lads in Nottingham...Tah tah.:wave:

I wud be going to that gig right now but it's an 18+ :upset:

Det_Nosnip
11-27-2005, 12:52 PM
really ****ed up avatar

What the hell is going on in your avatar, man?! :lol:

Spinal Pap
11-27-2005, 12:54 PM
Isn't that from Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

Txus
11-27-2005, 12:56 PM
Isn't that from Texas Chainsaw Massacre?
Yes it is.:D

azbassman
11-27-2005, 01:03 PM
My favorite album would be Deliverance

Wreath
Masters Apprentices
By The Pain I See In Others
..........i just can get enough of those songs.

EDIT: Nice avatar by the way.

Mother
11-27-2005, 01:05 PM
Favorite album - My arms your hearse

Second : Deliverance.

Spinal Pap
11-27-2005, 01:11 PM
EDIT: Nice avatar by the way.

I think it's pretty sick personally. [insert puking smiley face]

Kage
11-27-2005, 01:31 PM
I cannot understand that you speak. Your posts while in this string had no sense that. It - the entertainment, trying to understand them, though.
:lol:.

Blanka Flip
11-27-2005, 02:06 PM
My favorite album would be Deliverance

Wreath
Masters Apprentices
By The Pain I See In Others
..........i just can get enough of those songs.

EDIT: Nice avatar by the way.

But not Deliverance?:confused:

naboo
11-27-2005, 02:14 PM
My favorite is easily Morningrise followed by Still Life.

Jude
11-27-2005, 07:43 PM
I the English person of speech so far was always. In spite even to that, normal method of speech started being bored to me, therefore we had decided to mix thing into the small part. This one form a phrase that it perforates differently on from the generic crap that before heard each one much of more interesting.
This post owns MX.

Morningrise
11-27-2005, 07:57 PM
In order from favorite to least favorite:

Morningrise; My Arms, Your Hearse; Still Life; Blackwater Park; Orchid; Ghost Reveries; Damnation; Deliverance.

penelope_weird_hands
11-28-2005, 09:01 AM
mine would have to be blackwater park, still life, ghost reveries, deliverance, my arms your hearse, damnation, morningrise, orchid.. for the moment.

the order changes as much as i change my undies..

scenesfromatheater
11-28-2005, 10:24 AM
mine would have to be blackwater park, still life, ghost reveries, deliverance, my arms your hearse, damnation, morningrise, orchid.. for the moment.

the order changes as much as i change my undies..
Not very much then ...Ooohhhhh.

Saw Opeth last night, twas class.

penelope_weird_hands
11-28-2005, 10:56 AM
Not very much then ...Ooohhhhh.

hey, c'mon.. once or twice a week.. :rolleyes:

Saw Opeth last night, twas class.

nice!
what was their setlist like?

i wonder when they'll come back down under... :confused:

scenesfromatheater
11-28-2005, 11:05 AM
nice!
what was their setlist like?


Ermm.. can't remember. They did Bleak and the Grand Conjuration awsome though. I got myself a nice long sleeve tee :p .

Adam Jones is GOD
11-28-2005, 12:06 PM
Ermm.. can't remember. They did Bleak and the Grand Conjuration awsome though. I got myself a nice long sleeve tee :p .

When, Baying Of The Hounds, White Cluster (:eek: ), Deliverance, and a track off first album that I havent heard before. I got right to the front, and the girl next to me got the tracklist. Which was annoying for 2 reasons, as I didnt get it, and I saw A Fair Judgement as the track they had to cut.

Good to know someone else on mx was there. :thumb:

scenesfromatheater
11-28-2005, 12:24 PM
When, Baying Of The Hounds, White Cluster (:eek: ), Deliverance, and a track off first album that I havent heard before. I got right to the front, and the girl next to me got the tracklist. Which was annoying for 2 reasons, as I didnt get it, and I saw A Fair Judgement as the track they had to cut.

Good to know someone else on mx was there. :thumb:
What you look like? I may have seen you...:confused:

Adam Jones is GOD
11-28-2005, 12:26 PM
The only guy there with shaved hair lol. I was on the far right of the barrier all gig, right next to the speakers.

scenesfromatheater
11-28-2005, 12:29 PM
I was at the right hand side about 5-6 rows back. I was wearing a AC/DC zippy hoody and a Dream Theater shirt. I have a manly ponytail also.

Adam Jones is GOD
11-28-2005, 12:44 PM
Funny, as the 2nd most discussed band that evening was DT. Every bunch of people we talked to were saying how great it would be if they made a Rock City stop

scenesfromatheater
11-28-2005, 12:48 PM
Haha, cool. Twould be good I must say. It's not a big enough venue for DT I think though. I saw them at the Civic Hall in Wolves, that's an awsome venue for bands like DT.

JamJar
11-28-2005, 01:06 PM
The only guy there with shaved hair lol. I was on the far right of the barrier all gig, right next to the speakers.

Stop making me feel jealous :upset:

Cool avatar anyway

nowitzki
11-28-2005, 01:19 PM
When, Baying Of The Hounds, White Cluster (:eek: ), Deliverance, and a track off first album that I havent heard before. I got right to the front, and the girl next to me got the tracklist. Which was annoying for 2 reasons, as I didnt get it, and I saw A Fair Judgement as the track they had to cut.

Good to know someone else on mx was there. :thumb:

Yup, I was there, it was amazing. Mikael is such a funny guy, he kept cracking jokes in between songs.

The 2 girls we gave a lift home to were at the barrier on the right hand side, and one of them got a setlist, one had pink dreadlocks and one had black hair...

Jude
11-28-2005, 01:20 PM
They played a song off Orchid? :eek:

nowitzki
11-28-2005, 01:28 PM
Yeah, right before it Mikael was saying most people probably wont know it, and its really disjointed so people might not like it, but they'll play it anyway just so we can see what they were like in the early days. Hardly the best way of building a song up :lol: but it was really cool.

Jude
11-28-2005, 01:50 PM
Yeah, right before it Mikael was saying most people probably wont know it, and its really disjointed so people might not like it, but they'll play it anyway just so we can see what they were like in the early days. Hardly the best way of building a song up :lol: but it was really cool.
What song was it? I must know!

Adam Jones is GOD
11-28-2005, 03:29 PM
Yup, I was there, it was amazing. Mikael is such a funny guy, he kept cracking jokes in between songs.

The 2 girls we gave a lift home to were at the barrier on the right hand side, and one of them got a setlist, one had pink dreadlocks and one had black hair...

I was standing next to them all gig :cool:

I think I remember the Orchid track was Under The Weeping Moon, but being my first time of hearing it, im going on familiarity memory of what was said.

Jude
11-28-2005, 03:55 PM
I was standing next to them all gig :cool:

I think I remember the Orchid track was Under The Weeping Moon, but being my first time of hearing it, im going on familiarity memory of what was said.
Do you have the album to compare the song you heard to the album tracks?

I'd really love to know what old-school tracks they're starting to play on tours. I would especially love it if they'd bring Advent and To Bid You Farewell back into the setlist.

armthehomeless
11-28-2005, 04:52 PM
just got back from the gig in Glasgow. Totally awesome, best gig ever. I was a bit gutted they didn't play Baying of The Hounds but they did play Under The Weeping Moon ( i was really hoping this would be The Night And Silent Water when they were introducing it). I got myself a zip up hoody, which cost me the ridiculous price of £30. Guess thats what student loans are for

nowitzki
11-28-2005, 04:57 PM
The song was Under the Weeping Moon.

Where are you from in Leicestershire AJIG?

just got back from the gig in Glasgow. Totally awesome, best gig ever. I was a bit gutted they didn't play Baying of The Hounds but they did play Under The Weeping Moon ( i was really hoping this would be The Night And Silent Water when they were introducing it). I got myself a zip up hoody, which cost me the ridiculous price of £30. Guess thats what student loans are for

That price isnt bad at all for official merch, I've seen things much more expensive. At Dream Theater you could buy shirts for £50.

And we got Baying of the Hounds :p

Stoo
11-28-2005, 05:33 PM
So I just saw Opeth in Glasgow.(Which sold out)... I'll say this, I creamed myself on several occasions.

And if you havn't guessed it already, it was awesome. I didn't get a setlist or anything but they deff played...:

Ghost Of Perditon
When
Requiem
White Cluster
Bleak!!
The Grand Conjuration
Under The Weeping Moon
Deliverance
Demon Of The Fall

I think that's it. Not in order. (Except the 1st four).

Bought the mad Opeth flag thing and a nice longlseeve tee. :thumb:

I talked myself out of buying the official Opeth thong... :eek:

nowitzki
11-28-2005, 05:48 PM
What did you think of the support band Burst?
I thought they were pretty good, much better than I expected them to be.

Stoo
11-28-2005, 05:53 PM
Yeah, best suppert I've seen. But that's mainly because they usually suck.

Mikael is well funny.

Mikael: If you smell **** tonight, it's me. I'm not well.
Crowd: Semi-Aww.
Mikael: But don't worry, for Heavy Metal... I do anything.
Crowd: *Go wild* :p

Mikael: We have been around for 15 years... We, Are Legends. :smoke:

He kept sayin about how they are legends, and he is right!!

Moses
11-28-2005, 07:04 PM
I'd say 20 years would make them legends.

nowitzki
11-28-2005, 07:11 PM
Before Baying of the Hounds he went "This song is about Burt Reynolds and anal sex" :lol:

Killtacular
11-28-2005, 07:16 PM
I talked myself out of buying the official Opeth thong... :eek:
My god, man. What were you thinking!?

You shoulda snapped that bitch up.

You woulda gotten all the ladies.

Deth
11-28-2005, 07:31 PM
So I just saw Opeth in Glasgow.(Which sold out)... I'll say this, I creamed myself on several occasions.

And if you havn't guessed it already, it was awesome. I didn't get a setlist or anything but they deff played...:

Ghost Of Perditon
When
Requiem
White Cluster
Bleak!!
The Grand Conjuration
Under The Weeping Moon
Deliverance
Demon Of The Fall

I think that's it. Not in order. (Except the 1st four).

Bought the mad Opeth flag thing and a nice longlseeve tee. :thumb:

I talked myself out of buying the official Opeth thong... :eek:

The piano song?

Killtacular
11-28-2005, 07:48 PM
Requiem is teh awesomez.

Toaster
11-28-2005, 07:52 PM
The piano song?

Isn't that Silhouette?

Deth
11-28-2005, 07:52 PM
Oops, my bad. Indeed.

Toaster
11-28-2005, 07:55 PM
It's happened to everyone. :)

Did you guys know that the beginning of The Apostle In Triumph is supposed to be the end of Requiem, but whoever produced/recorded the album screwed it up? Kinda cool fact.

Killtacular
11-28-2005, 07:57 PM
Isn't that Silhouette?
****!!

Okay, Silhouette is teh awesomez.

Deth
11-28-2005, 08:01 PM
It's happened to everyone. :)

Did you guys know that the beginning of The Apostle In Triumph is supposed to be the end of Requiem, but whoever produced/recorded the album screwed it up? Kinda cool fact.
That's interesting. It always annoys me when I get to the 10 seconds of silence.

BlindWriting
11-28-2005, 08:40 PM
These setlists keep getting better, I've got to see them live.


Before Baying of the Hounds he went "This song is about Burt Reynolds and anal sex" :lol:
:lol: :lol:

TojesDolan
11-28-2005, 10:31 PM
One question: Did they play Bleak with only two guitars? I always wondered how they'd pull that song off live...

Hells Bells
11-28-2005, 10:44 PM
Yeah, they did it with two guitars.
Speaking of Bleak, I threw on my Blackwater Park cd the other day and have been addicted to Bleak since...it has such an erie, unearthly atmosphere.

Kage
11-28-2005, 10:50 PM
One question: Did they play Bleak with only two guitars? I always wondered how they'd pull that song off live...
The keyboards help on that one.

TojesDolan
11-28-2005, 10:59 PM
mmm... Supercool. I still can't figure out the two electrics+acoustic stuff. But anyhow it should sound awesome.

Bleak has this... I don't know. The clean lyrics are amazing. "Devious movements in your eyes, moved me from relief..." I have a certain affection for the clean vocals... but the growl'd ones are good to relieve stress.

Cain
11-28-2005, 11:03 PM
Bleak admittedly sounds a bit funny with just two guitars. It's mostly due to the fact that the leads aren't Ebowed and mixed low with reverb like they are on the recording. When Mikael plays them, it's with his loud saturated distortion sound. All things considered, though, the song really didn't suffer for it, except during the part where there's like a hundred guitars tracked on the recording.

The Drapery Falls suffers much more noticably from the lead mix change.

Hells Bells
11-28-2005, 11:29 PM
The part when Mikael sings

Moving
I am moving closer to your side
Luring
You are luring me into the night


sends shivers down my spine whenever I hear it.

When I heard Bleak at the concert, I hadn't listened to it for a really long time, I completely forgot about all the layering. I thought it sounded fine live.

And they played The Drapery Falls when you saw them Cain? I'm so jealous...it's one of my favourite Opeth songs.

nowitzki
11-29-2005, 05:23 AM
The clean lyrics are amazing. "Devious movements in your eyes, moved me from relief..." I have a certain affection for the clean vocals... but the growl'd ones are good to relieve stress.

I just love that part, it sends a shiver down my spine.

Stoo
11-29-2005, 10:08 AM
Before Baying of the Hounds he went "This song is about Burt Reynolds and anal sex" :lol:

He said this right before Deliverance, when I was there last night...

Something like "This song was inspired by the film "Cannonball 2"... And the bum sex scene from..."Deliverance""...then they start playing...

scenesfromatheater
11-29-2005, 10:19 AM
He's a funny lad that one.

Stoo
11-29-2005, 10:27 AM
He's a funny lad that one.
Uh huh. I was surprised how much he spoke to the audience. I read earlier in this thread that he doesn't speak at all except for sayin "We are Opeth from Stockholm Sweden."

Don't know if the person was being sarcastic or not, but anyway, I was pleasantly surprised. :thumb:

suspect
11-29-2005, 10:45 AM
Mikael has an enormous stage presence, and he's very good at talking to the audience.

Hells Bells
11-29-2005, 11:12 AM
Uh huh. I was surprised how much he spoke to the audience. I read earlier in this thread that he doesn't speak at all except for sayin "We are Opeth from Stockholm Sweden."

Don't know if the person was being sarcastic or not, but anyway, I was pleasantly surprised. :thumb:

I heard that he was a bit more reserved when Opeth first started touring, and he didn't interact with the audience as much as he does now.

Jude
11-29-2005, 11:42 AM
He said this right before Deliverance, when I was there last night...

Something like "This song was inspired by the film "Cannonball 2"... And the bum sex scene from..."Deliverance""...then they start playing...
That reminds me, the other day my movie was talking about some movie called Deliverance where some guys go boating in West Virginia and get butt raped.

armthehomeless
11-29-2005, 01:05 PM
Mikael was really good with the audience. Someone yelled something in a thick scottish accent and he just said "Thanks, i guess". Was pretty funny at the time.

When they were introducing 'Under The Weeping Moon' he was saying this a song from an earlier album we dont usually play. I was really hoping it would be The Night And Silent Water. I dont think i'll ever see that live since they apparently hate the song. Its my favourite by them