Opeth

[Deth]

*sigh*
...No.

Bully.
:upset:
*points, laughs and throws water ballon*

[Jude]

That did play a slight role, but I would've given even if I didn't get out of class.

I do?
I would get a refund, but I didn't pay for it.

I only weigh 125, and I was fine. There were some people that weighed 160+ and passed out.
I weigh 125 too. Maybe it's my height? If I were 5 feet and weighed that maybe I would have been fine, but I'm 5 foot 8. I don't know how it works...but I was a mess.

[Killtacular]

I weigh 125 too. Maybe it's my height? If I were 5 feet and weighed that maybe I would have been fine, but I'm 5 foot 8. I don't know how it works...but I was a mess.
I'm 5'11", so it must just be a personal thing.

[Deth]

I weigh 125 too. Maybe it's my height? If I were 5 feet and weighed that maybe I would have been fine, but I'm 5 foot 8. I don't know how it works...but I was a mess.
I'm about identical to you.

I'm also 16, so in a few years I will tower over you. Fear me!

[Toaster]

I'm 5'5, 130 lbs. I thought I was thin. Until now!! Deth, I suggest you put on some weight, when your growth spurt kicks in you won't have enough fat to enable you to grow to your potential height.

/learned this the hard way

[Deth]

Hey, I'm trying! I'm unable to gain weight. 2 pounds in a year, and I do eat well and exercise semi-regularly.

[Toaster]

Did I say eat well? I'm talking poutine, Big Macs, stuffed crust 3 cheese pizza, etc.

[Deth]

Did I say eat well? I'm talking poutine, Big Macs, stuffed crust 3 cheese pizza, etc.
:lol: Still no weight gain. I'm skinny and I look like an emo kid.

[Spinal Pap]

:lol: Still no weight gain. I'm skinny and I look like an emo kid.

:lol: You fellas need to hit the weightroom.

<---feels big at 6'0 185

[Toaster]

:lol: You fellas need to hit the weightroom.

<---feels big at 6'0 185

Yeah?? Well my post count is bigger than your post count!! Size really does matter. :p

[Spinal Pap]

Yeah?? Well my post count is bigger than your post count!! Size really does matter. :p

*walks away defeated*

On an Opeth related note, what other covers have they done besides Remember Tommorow? I really like it but I've never heard the Maiden version so I can't compare.

[Kage]

I stand a towering 6'5" and weigh 210 pounds. Ha!

[Killtacular]

I stand a towering 6'5" and weigh 210 pounds. Ha!
Good gracious. Lay off the Micky D's.

[Kage]

I'm not really overweight for my height. I'm actually quite trim. :)

[Hells Bells]

Mmmm...brand new bass. :p

What kind?

Kage is right...Ticketmaster charges WAY too much for services. A 35 dollar ticket had 10 bucks extra for charges.

It's an Ibanez SR-400, it's good enough as a starter :p

I've never gotten service charges like that, but Ticketmaster can be really annoying sometimes, especially when it comes to keeping track of upcoming shows.

*walks away defeated*

On an Opeth related note, what other covers have they done besides Remember Tommorow? I really like it but I've never heard the Maiden version so I can't compare.

They did an awesome cover of Circle of the Tyrants by Celtic Frost, replacing the opening guitar riff with one on the piano...it makes it sound so dark and ominous.

[Killtacular]

I'm not really overweight for my height. I'm actually quite trim. :)
I realize this, but still. McDonald's is evil. I work with a guy that's about 6'4" and weighs 320, and he's not overweight at all. It's kind of intimidating, actually.

On a side note, I've gotten and am enjoying Hot Rats.

[Darkness]

I stand a towering 6'5" and weigh 210 pounds. Ha!
Wow.. you're huge..


I weigh 160, and am 6 feet tall. :cool:

[Werny]

Opeth need to come to Australia, the turds. I would glady kill to see Baying of the Hounds live.

It looks like they don't have much variation in their setlist.

Ah well, I guess that means if I see them they'll most likely play Deliverance.

[Det_Nosnip]

While we're on the topic, I'm 6'3 and haven't weighed myself in quite a while. Last time I did I was at about 205, but I've lost quite alot of weight in the past months, so I have no clue where I am at.

On related news: Nevermore was ****ing AWESOME. That seriously was one of the best concerts I've ever been to...they freaking tore the place down.

[Deth]

I would have enjoyed Nevermore but I was too busy watching Jeff Loomis' hands.

He shredded the hell out his guitar for 45 minutes at the Opeth show.

[Oriah]

I would have enjoyed Nevermore but I was too busy watching Jeff Loomis' hands.

He shredded the hell out his guitar for 45 minutes at the Opeth show.

Yeah When I went to see Opeth here in Houston.. they had Pelican with them instead of Nevermore..which was fine by me..I love Pelican...but after listening to Nevermore I would have liked to see them too... but I'm fine with what I got..either way it was a damn good show

[Jude]

So A Fair Judgement is now my favorite Deliverance track.

[raz0r]

Wow.. you're huge..


I weigh 160, and am 6 feet tall. :cool:

pfft, i'm 6'6", 180lbs.

And get this... I'm 15.

[Det_Nosnip]

That's nuts.

[vashts80]

So A Fair Judgement is now my favorite Deliverance track.

It's better on Lamentations, IMO. The end solo at around 6:30 (especially the part towards 7:20) rapes live, I think it has much more feeling

[Jude]

It's better on Lamentations, IMO. The end solo at around 6:30 (especially the part towards 7:20) rapes live, I think it has much more feeling
I don't have Lamentations :( Maybe I'll ask for it for Christmas.

[JamJar]

Ticketmaster is evil, are you joking?

It didn't tell me Dragonforce was playing THEIR ONLY US SHOW in my area...I found out from their website, only to find out that tickets sold out the day they went up.

They DID have Sonata Arctica tickets though. :D

To make you feel better, I'm going Dragonforce in January :p

I really need to get lamentations, I'll also ask for it as a christmas present or birthday (only 8 days :))

[Oriah]

pfft, i'm 6'6", 180lbs.

And get this... I'm 15.

You must be like a Tall Stick man

Kage at least has the weight to back it up..and I know him he is HUGE

and hes not much older than you....but the fact that you are 6'6 at 15 is quite strange.. I bet you look like the alien off the movie..Encounters of the third kind. :lol:

[UpperDecker]

I haven't really seen anyone talk about "The Moor". Its one of my favorite songs on Still Life. Great intro, great work with the instruments, especially the clean singing and clean guitar( the heavy guitar is great too). I especially like how the song ends. I feel its one of their most complete songs and ends just perfectly. yea..........

[Darkness]

I haven't really seen anyone talk about "The Moor". Its one of my favorite songs on Still Life. Great intro, great work with the instruments, especially the clean singing and clean guitar( the heavy guitar is great too). I especially like how the song ends. I feel its one of their most complete songs and ends just perfectly. yea..........
Good man. Much better then Godheads Lament, eh?? :D

[raz0r]

You must be like a Tall Stick man

Kage at least has the weight to back it up..and I know him he is HUGE

and hes not much older than you....but the fact that you are 6'6 at 15 is quite strange.. I bet you look like the alien off the movie..Encounters of the third kind. :lol:

I actually had to go to a doctor this morning to get my height checked out.
My dad is only 6', and my mum is 5'10", so the doctor thought it was really strange. It's apparently still within the bounds of 'normal' though

[UpperDecker]

Good man. Much better then Godheads Lament, eh?? :D

I'd say the song as a whole is better than Godheads Lament but there are certain parts of Godheads Lament that cant be topped. The "searching my way to perplexion" part and the acoustic part " "What would they say if i would stay".. Those parts are just amazing. But yea i guess i like The Moor better.

[Darkness]

But yea i guess i like The Moor better.
Excellent.


/is ignoring the rest of your comment :p (its a long story..)

[Toaster]

I don't have Lamentations :( Maybe I'll ask for it for Christmas.

Well, that's odd, considering your avatar. :p

Yeah, The Moor is awesome. Such a great song name, too.

[Darkness]

His avatar is Damnation, I believe.

[Flynn]

I still can't find out what this sound is on the song April Ethereal at around 1:46. There's a little taint of it before also. It sounds like it was intentional, but I can't put my finger on it. It almost sounds like he strums the strings on the headstock.

[Jude]

Well, that's odd, considering your avatar. :p

Yeah, The Moor is awesome. Such a great song name, too.
My avatar's actually from the back of Deliverance.

The Moor owns. Possibly the best metal song ever made (though Face of Melinda is still my personal favorite)

[ok lateralus]

I still can't find out what this sound is on the song April Ethereal at around 1:46. There's a little taint of it before also. It sounds like it was intentional, but I can't put my finger on it. It almost sounds like he strums the strings on the headstock.

Are you talking about the sound that is kind of like piano-ish? To me it always sounded like a piano note.

[Flynn]

Are you talking about the sound that is kind of like piano-ish? To me it always sounded like a piano note.

It's around 1:46. It sounds like he's strumming the strings on the headstock, I don't know.

[Toaster]

It sounds like something on bass, or maybe an acoustic guitar, because that part goes right into an acoustic riff.

[Hells Bells]

I remember someone saying they learned To Bid You Farewell on bass, and I was wondering where you got the tabs from. I've looked all over the place for good tabs, and it's not getting me anywhere :upset:

[Txus]

I remember someone saying they learned To Bid You Farewell on bass, and I was wondering where you got the tabs from. I've looked all over the place for good tabs, and it's not getting me anywhere :upset:
I know the song it's kind of hard but when you finally get it down believe me that it's freaking beautiful.

Here is the link:
http://mxtabs.net/tabs.php?path=Bass,o,10531,Opeth,To+Bid+You+Farewe ll,104419


Good luck man! enjoy!:thumb:

[Hells Bells]

I found that tab and it sounded kinda off when I first tried it, but if you learned the song and tab's worked for you, I'll give it another shot.

Thanks a lot :)

[Killtacular]

Good man. Much better then Godheads Lament, eh?? :D
NO!!!

Gah, you crazy Kanaduh guy with your false opinions.

[Spinal Pap]

I can't get into Godhead's Lament for some reason. It's a good song for the most part, but I just don't like the riff at the beginning of the song. The rest is great, but that first part kind of kills it for me.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So, YDLoad needs a mini bio done on Mikael Akerfeldt for Poll C of the Vocalists competition. Could someone get on this very quickly?

[i am the robots]

I put one in the community thread, should i post it there?

[Killtacular]

"Mikael Åkerfeldt was born on April 17, 1974, in Stockholm, Sweden. He is currently famously known as the lead vocalist and guitarist of Opeth. Mikael was the vocalist for Eruption, a death metal band which he formed in 1988. After Eruption died in 1990, He founded Opeth as a bassist, together with David Isberg on vocals. When David left Opeth, Mikael replaced him as a vocalist and also took guitar duties.

Among metal fans, Mikael is noted for his exceptionally strong, progressive-rock-influenced songwriting style, and his ability to sing very proficiently in both a melodic tone and a harsh growl. Certainly one of the best vocalists in metal today. His death growls on Blackwater Park were wonderfully done and very difficult to match, and his vocal performances on Damnation are enough to swoon even the angriest teenage girls."

I got most of it from Wikipedia, changed it around a little, and added a few sentences.

[Darkness]

NO!!!

Gah, you crazy Kanaduh guy with your false opinions.
Opinions can't be false. :p

I can't get into Godhead's Lament for some reason. It's a good song for the most part, but I just don't like the riff at the beginning of the song. The rest is great, but that first part kind of kills it for me.
Same.

[Shadows]

So, YDLoad needs a mini bio done on Mikael Akerfeldt for Poll C of the Vocalists competition. Could someone get on this very quickly?
I'm surprised someone didn't jump on it right away. I was so ashamed to check that thread and see that Laiho didn't have one.

[lost_profits]

Flynn, I always thought it was just a lightly strummed acoustic guitar. It's very very faint whatever it is. And it meshes in so well with the song.

Which Poll is Mike Patton going to be in? I sure don't want Akerfeldt and Patton in the same poll.

[Det_Nosnip]

That would be very easy for me. As much as I admire Patton for his versatility and unique style...he doesn't really excite me all that much, other than as a curiosity.

[Deth]

That would be very easy for me. As much as I admire Patton for his versatility and unique style...he doesn't really excite me all that much, other than as a curiosity.
Same with me. He can do some fantastic thing but =/= good music all the time.

[penelope_weird_hands]

http://opethtacos.ytmnd.com
has anyone seen this? rofl.
cracked me up. ;}

finally got all of the albums.
listened to all of them in one sitting while deliriously tired.
excellent musical experience.

still life remains my favourite, although i need to listen to orchid, morningrise, my arms your hearse and deliverance alot more.

deliverance is my favourite track for the moment.
fvucking class that song..!

the acoustic stuff from orchid and morningrise owns me though.
goosebumpville.

they better to come back to aus.. }:.

EDIT: does anyone know where i can get opeth wallpapers similar to ElectricalStorm and fukifiknow's avatars? or any decent opeth wallpapers in general..?

[the2stranger]

Are you talking about the sound that is kind of like piano-ish? To me it always sounded like a piano note.
it's synthesizer! ;)

[spacemanjack]

no way guys.....its his finger moving down a wound acoustic string. Without a doubt.

[Stormrider]

Same with me. He can do some fantastic thing but =/= good music all the time.

I heard one song from him. Pig latin. That song is with Lamb of god I think...
Its ok I guess.

My avatar's actually from the back of Deliverance.

The Moor owns. Possibly the best metal song ever made (though Face of Melinda is still my personal favorite)

That song is now probably one of my favorite Opeth songs Ive heard. Its just awsome. Especailly the acoustics. Although the whole song is realy good.

[JamJar]

Woohoo!

I'll probably be going to see Opeth live in Exeter!!! :D

[Darkness]

EDIT: does anyone know where i can get opeth wallpapers similar to ElectricalStorm and fukifiknow's avatars? or any decent opeth wallpapers in general..?
Yep, http://truemetal.org/metalwallpaper/


Did you guys hear about that whole bus driver scandel? See their website for details.

[Flynn]

So has anyone recorded the tail end of By The Pain I See In Others and play it backwards yet? If not,download Audacity, it's free and pretty decent for messing around with tracks. You gotta hear it backwards!

[Darkness]

I did, I could just upload mine now if anybody wants.

[Stormrider]

Which Opeth album has the most acoustics ?
Not nessacarily ballads, just acoustic passages in the songs.

Sry for the change of subject...

[Shadius]

Which Opeth album has the most acoustics ?
Not nessacarily ballads, just acoustic passages in the songs.

Sry for the change of subject...

Damnation pretty much is all acoustic/clean guitar.

[vashts80]

The end of "By the Pain I See in Others" is cool, the echoing Master's Apprentices clean verse :o

[Stormrider]

Damnation pretty much is all acoustic/clean guitar.

I went to check on the Opeth official site and i saw that Death whispered a lullaby is on Damnation. Fro some reason, Im not to fond of that song. Havnt listened to it in a while though but I dunno about you guys, but i kind of find that song a lil boring...

But on the other hand, i love In My Time Of Need. I love the atmoshere that song creates.

[Darkness]

I went to check on the Opeth official site and i saw that Death whispered a lullaby is on Damnation. Fro some reason, Im not to fond of that song. Havnt listened to it in a while though but I dunno about you guys, but i kind of find that song a lil boring...

But on the other hand, i love In My Time Of Need. I love the atmoshere that song creates.
Exactly the same with me, that song isn't that special to me, but In My Time Of Need is brilliant.

[Stormrider]

I would get Damnation just for that song...Havnt heard ther others though...except after I get Orchid, im gunna start looking for Still Life: The Moor and Serenity Painted Death. I love both those songs. Especialy the Moor.

[Jude]

So has anyone recorded the tail end of By The Pain I See In Others and play it backwards yet? If not,download Audacity, it's free and pretty decent for messing around with tracks. You gotta hear it backwards!
I just did that. That is some pretty crazy stuff!

Death Whispered a Lullaby is awesome...I can't understand why nobody likes that song. WAYY better than IMTON.

[Flynn]

I just did that. That is some pretty crazy stuff!

Death Whispered a Lullaby is awesome...I can't understand why nobody likes that song. WAYY better than IMTON.

I never got into In My Time Of Need. Death Whispered A Lullaby is pretty cool though. That Master's Apprentices chorus is tight, eh? I remember the first time I heard that, I was like ''Ohhhhhhh THAT'S what he's saying! Nice
;)

[Stormrider]

The whole of Masters Apprentice is awsome.
" There is a voice calling for meeee"
"There is a riot falling down on meee"

I really like the clean guitars in that song...




In Mist She Was Standing has an brilliant outro...

[Shattered_Future]

I can't STAND In My Time Of Need. The verses piss me off so much...they have absolutely no redeeming qualities, and completely bastardize any shred of liking I had for that song.

Death Whispered A Lullaby I like...favorites off that album are Windowpane and Hope Leaves though.

[Oriah]

yeah it does...

Lately I have been listening to BWP while driving home from my campus...and I just roll the windows down and let it sing to the world ..god i love it

[Deth]

I can't STAND In My Time Of Need. The verses piss me off so much...they have absolutely no redeeming qualities, and completely bastardize any shred of liking I had for that song.

Death Whispered A Lullaby I like...favorites off that album are Windowpane and Hope Leaves though.
I really like that song, though I see what you're saying. The why he does the vocals in the verses, the start stop thing annoys me slightly, but nothing too bad.

Plus, hearing it live helps a lot.

[Darkness]

I really like Weakness, thats a wonderfull song, and perfect to end that album.

[Deth]

Thats probably my least favorite on the album.

Well, actually, there's no probably in that statement.

[Darkness]

You like Ending Credits more then Weakness?

[Deth]

Yeah. I love instrumentals, even though that's not nearly their best.

[Darkness]

Interesting. My favorite is probably Hope Leaves, along with Windowpane and To Rid the Deisease (saw it live :D).

[Toaster]

I don't know about Weakness. It's cool sometimes, when I'm going to sleep or something, but otherwise its sort of.. really boring. It has no character to me.

[Deth]

Interesting. My favorite is probably Hope Leaves, along with Windowpane and To Rid the Deisease (saw it live :D).
Switch Wndowpane with Closure and you have my top 3 on that album.

I may listen to that tonight now.

[Darkness]

I enjoy Closure to, but I just really like the emotion in Windowpane more. But Closures got some really cool parts, that one acoustic riff is really sweet.

[Toaster]

This may have already been brought up.. but has anyone else heard about Opeth's bus driver??

[Toaster]

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=44236

Ouch. Discuss.

[Shattered_Future]

:amaze:

There's ALWAYS somebody like that on the news...

To Rid The Disease I just listened to...good song.

[Deth]

That guy looks so creepy as well.

[Darkness]

Yep, http://truemetal.org/metalwallpaper/


Did you guys hear about that whole bus driver scandel? See their website for details.
I brought it up on the last page, but was ignored. :upset:

[Jude]

I saw the bus driver thing on the ultimatemetal.com Opeth forum. My immediate thought was, what kind of idiot teenager flies to Florida to meet some shady bus driver coke dealer?

[Darkness]

For 600 bucks and a job.

[Jude]

For 600 bucks and a job.
Again I repeat, what kind of idiot teenager...

[Darkness]

Again I repeat, what kind of idiot teenager...
I agree, but thats what it said.

[lost_profits]

Weakness is probably my favourite off damnation. That and windowpane.
It's probably the eeriest Opeth track of them all.

[Det_Nosnip]

IMO Dam nation is pure gold. I really can't understand why anybody dislikes In My Time of Need or Death Whispered a Lullaby.

[ElectricalStorm]

Hey what's up guys, I've been really busy as of late so I couldn't really post but I will still be doing an April Ethereal analysis very soon I promise. Just a reminder and a buffer post of sorts., so sorry for interrupting the flow of thread.

The analysis will be more focused than my makeshift deliverence one and is going to be interpretive in nature rather than factual--of course this is a given....In other words the content is expandable, malleable and most definitely not absolute--so discussion will be welcomed!

[Deth]

Hey what's up guys, I've been really busy as of late so I couldn't really post but I will still be doing an April Ethereal analysis very soon I promise. Just a reminder and a buffer post of sorts., so sorry for interrupting the flow of thread.

The analysis will be more focused than my makeshift deliverence one and is going to be interpretive in nature rather than factual--of course this is a given....In other words the content is expandable, malleable and most definitely not absolute--so discussion will be welcomed!
I'm looking forward to seeing it.

I just found out that the lyrics for MAYH were written before the music. Fun fact.

[Spinal Pap]

Mikael's doing great in the polls. I went with him over McCartney, but it was close.

[Hells Bells]

I'm looking forward to seeing it.

I just found out that the lyrics for MAYH were written before the music. Fun fact.

Since it was a concept album, it might have been easier to have the lyrics already written. There'd be something more concrete to base the music on and the album would flow better IMO.

[Toaster]

IMO Dam nation is pure gold. I really can't understand why anybody dislikes In My Time of Need or Death Whispered a Lullaby.

I love IMToN, but not so much the latter. Mikael's voice isn't that great on it, and the song in total just seems sort of rushed and uninspired. The fact that Mikael didn't write the lyrics sort of bugs me, too. Those are probably my favourite tracks off that album, though.

I'm rediscovering my love for Karma, though.. it's such a heavy song, emotionally. Some of the note choices during the bridge are so weird, yet they work in the overall scheme. His screaming is delicious, too.

[Killtacular]

Cmon, fellas.
Damn is no longer censored.

[Darkness]

I wonder who Deth will vote for... Mikeal or Rob..

[Killtacular]

Let's take bets.
I say Rob.
Twenty bucks.

[Darkness]

Canadian, or American? :p

[Stormrider]

Didnt he already vote ?...I saw his post saying Halford all the way...

[Darkness]

Oh, I must have missed it. The bastard..

[Killtacular]

Ha! I win. I didn't even know he had voted yet, either.

Cough up my 20, you dirty Kanadian!!
I want American money too, none of them maple syrup coated toonies.

[Darkness]

I didn't even agree to that bet! I knew he'd vote Halford, he's a fanboy.

[Toaster]

He voted Halford?

And I thought he knew his music. :p

[Shattered_Future]

Darkness, I suggest you give the man his money...Scruples is known for rabid badger outbursts.

On a side note, I'm getting an Opeth watch for Christmas. :D

[Darkness]

Darkness, I suggest you give the man his money...Scruples is known for rabid badger outbursts.

On a side note, I'm getting an Opeth watch for Christmas. :D
Yes... I know Scruples... sadly, he's on my msn list. :(

He voted Halford?

And I thought he knew his music. :p
Well I guess now you know the truth about Deth... :p

[Toaster]

Darkness, I suggest you give the man his money...Scruples is known for rabid badger outbursts.

On a side note, I'm getting an Opeth watch for Christmas. :D

Awesome. I didn't even know they existed. Now you'll know when you're in your time of need.

[Stormrider]

Awesome. I didn't even know they existed. Now you'll know when you're in your time of need.

Thats a nice way of putting it.

[Killtacular]

Darkness, I suggest you give the man his money...Scruples is known for rabid badger outbursts.
This is tr00. Don't make me fetch them.
Yes... I know Scruples... sadly, he's on my msn list. :(
You can't resist my charm and boyish good looks.
Now you'll know when you're in your time of need.
:lol:
Niiiice.

[Shattered_Future]

Awesome. I didn't even know they existed. Now you'll know when you're in your time of need.

:lol: ...clever.

Yea, they had 3 different faces for the watch. :eek:

If you go on to http://www.infinity1.com and find some way to get them to send a catalog to your house, you can get loads of crap from it (good crap, mind you. :p)

Ordering a whole bunch of stuff from it for Christmas, watch included.

[Spinal Pap]

On a side note, I'm getting an Opeth watch for Christmas. :D

Thats pretty cool. I would add that to my list, but I don't think my parents would go for it. My mom thinks it's satanic music because of the growls and because it's called death metal. :)

I'm already getting a shirt and Lamentations, that should do for now.

[Stormrider]

Thats pretty cool. I would add that to my list, but I don't think my parents would go for it. My mom thinks it's satanic music because of the growls and because it's called death metal. :)

I'm already getting a shirt and Lamentations, that should do for now.

Shirts and cd's is practicly all Im asking for Christmas. Including my copy of Orchid :) .

[Shattered_Future]

Oddly enough, my mom let me order an Immortal shirt with a picture of them decked out in full black metalness on the front, and "Demons Of Metal" in a large pentagram on the back, but she wouldn't let me order a Necrophagist shirt with just that on the front.

Weird, ain't it? :confused:

[Toaster]

Hah, she probably considers "Immortal" to be Christian or something. "Necrophagist" is far more satanic sounding.

:eek: They have Necrophagist shirts? I'm out of the loop.

EDIT: Check out what Opeth says about the incident on their website. Pretty scathing, to say the least.

[Deth]

He voted Halford?

And I thought he knew his music. :p
I'll take all of you on!

I actually looked at the poll results, saw Mikeal was destroying everyone and went Rob. I would have voted for anyone who was behind.

[Darkness]

You can't resist my charm and boyish good looks.
Tr00f. :upset:

[Toaster]

I'll take all of you on!

I actually looked at the poll results, saw Mikeal was destroying everyone and went Rob. I would have voted for anyone who was behind.

That's a pretty good point. However, there could be a reason Mikael's ahead. (Besides the "high number of Opeth fanboys".)

[Flynn]

I don't know about Weakness. It's cool sometimes, when I'm going to sleep or something, but otherwise its sort of.. really boring. It has no character to me.


Yeah, I can't count how many times I've listened to that song before I sleep or during. It's a good song to listen to when you just wanna relax, or listening to it wasted in the middle of nowhere looking up at the sky in darkness. Weakness is tight.:)




N.P. Feast Of Burden ~ Dark Tranquillity

[Darkness]

N.P. Feast Of Burden ~ Dark Tranquillity
Just as I read that, I was putting on Punish My Heaven. Great band.

[Flynn]

Just as I read that, I was putting on Punish My Heaven. Great band.


:lol: That's crazy, what are the odds! We cover that song, and only that song. We hate playing covers but made an exception with Punish My Heaven. Great band. :)




N.P. The Departure ~ Hypocrisy

[Det_Nosnip]

Another great band. :) Very underapreciated....Peter's a hell of a vocalist/guitarist/producer/whatever the hell else he does.

[Flynn]

Yeah he is. I like their style. On the Opeth note, I burned Still Life for a friend of mine a while back, the next day he came over and told me how much he disliked it. It wasn't his style and he didn't like the screaming and what not. This was a few months ago. He came over last night and couldn't stop talking about the album. Now he has all of their albums. :lol:

[Toaster]

We are talking about Dark Tranquility right? I have only Damage Done, and it's Gothenburg perfection. It almost makes me want to give up buying melodic death albums, because it's so unbeatable.

[Shattered_Future]

We are talking about Dark Tranquility right? I have only Damage Done, and it's Gothenburg perfection. It almost makes me want to give up buying melodic death albums, because it's so unbeatable.

If you think Damage Done is perfection, Character will make you spontaneously combust.

Think Damage Done, made better in every way possible by 500 times. Character is the single greatest melodic death album ever. There are NO filler tracks at all...every song is absolutely perfect.

[Toaster]

That good, eh.. I'll have to pick it up soon. I hate prioritizing albums!! This is at the top for sure, though.

[Shattered_Future]

If you want a teaser, go onto http://www.centurymedia.com and download Lost To Apathy.

If that doesn't confirm your love for Character, you don't deserve to live.

[Flynn]

If you want a teaser, go onto http://www.centurymedia.com and download Lost To Apathy.

If that doesn't confirm your love for Character, you don't deserve to live.


Skydancer is my favorite Dark Tranquillity album, only because I was the only person on the planet to have that tape in 1993. I still listen to it today. The recording isn't that great, but it schools Character hands down.




N.P. Black Rose Immortal ~ Opeth

[Darkness]

Which would be the best DT album to get first? I was thinking The Gallery, as it has most of the stuff I've heard on it.

[One Step Beyond]

Do you guys remember when someone suggested a band called Soundsleep, because they were similar to softer Opeth? I'm searching, but I can't find that post in here. I'm desperately searching for info and stuff about this band, so please help me out if you can. Someone posted a link to a few mp3s quite awhile back.

[Flynn]

Which would be the best DT album to get first? I was thinking The Gallery, as it has most of the stuff I've heard on it.


Yeah The Gallery is tight, The Minds I, Haven, and especially Skydancer.



Do you guys remember when someone suggested a band called Soundsleep, because they were similar to softer Opeth? I'm searching, but I can't find that post in here. I'm desperately searching for info and stuff about this band, so please help me out if you can. Someone posted a link to a few mp3s quite awhile back.


I've never heard of them, or heard of any post about them.

[Toaster]

If you want a teaser, go onto http://www.centurymedia.com and download Lost To Apathy.

If that doesn't confirm your love for Character, you don't deserve to live.

It's terrible, no more, no less. Awful.

[Shattered_Future]

I hope that's sarcasm I detect...:evil:

[Toaster]

:lol: I wanted to see your reaction. It's serisously awesome though. Production is way better, same with vox. Excited now! New albums are sweet.

[Shattered_Future]

The thing I like about Stanne's voice is it keeps getting progressively better each album, eventually culminating in an album like this.

Even Akefeldt can't hold a candle to him in certain parts of Character.

[One Step Beyond]

I've never heard of them, or heard of any post about them.
Someone was asking for similar bands to Opeth, and some guy suggested Soundsleep and posted a link to some mp3s of theirs. I'm pretty sure it was in here, because I don't know what other thread it could have been.

[Flynn]

Please don't hate me, Future, but I think Character is weak. It's the only Dark Tranquillity album I didn't buy.


Back To Opeth! Everyone listen to Black Rose Immortal now!



Someone was asking for similar bands to Opeth, and some guy suggested Soundsleep and posted a link to some mp3s of theirs. I'm pretty sure it was in here, because I don't know what other thread it could have been.

I don't know man, look through the pages is my only suggestion.

[Toaster]

Please don't hate me, Future, but I think Character is weak. It's the only Dark Tranquillity album I didn't buy.



Off with his head!

[Flynn]

:lol: :lol:

[Spinal Pap]

Back To Opeth! Everyone listen to Black Rose Immortal now!

I just happen to be listening to BRI when I read that.

[One Step Beyond]

I looked through about 50 pages and gave up.

[Shattered_Future]

Please don't hate me, Future, but I think Character is weak. It's the only Dark Tranquillity album I didn't buy.


Back To Opeth! Everyone listen to Black Rose Immortal now!

Really? Man, it's just like Damage Done, except it's its older, wiser, more adept big brother.

Meh, your opinion.

I'd much rather prefer we listen to Finntroll...for some reason, I put them on. :lol:

[Darkness]

I have Nevermore going. :) I just can't stop listening to them.. I love them... almost as much as Opeth! :eek:


/Knows in the long run he will stick with Opeth more then Nevermore

[Flynn]

I just happen to be listening to BRI when I read that.


If you're serious, that's crazy! It's such an epic song. It's beauty warms me at night. :)



I looked through about 50 pages and gave up.


Oh well, listen to Black Rose Immortal, it might clear your head. :D

[Spinal Pap]

I've heard a whole lot about Nevermore, I might have to check them out. Whats a good cd to start with?

If you're serious, that's crazy! It's such an epic song. It's beauty warms me at night.

lol well I wouldn't go that far but it is a beatiful song. The higher pitched growls have really grown on me.

Oh well, listen to Black Rose Immortal, it might clear your head.

Most definitely.

[Flynn]

Really? Man, it's just like Damage Done, except it's its older, wiser, more adept big brother.

Meh, your opinion.

I'd much rather prefer we listen to Finntroll...for some reason, I put them on. :lol:



I like all Dark Tranquillity, I just couldn't get into Character. I will never abandon Skydancer. It's such a vital breakthrough album of the early and late 90's. No one at the time was playing that style, and even today bands can't even come close to it's vibe.

[Darkness]

I've heard a whole lot about Nevermore, I might have to check them out. Whats a good cd to start with?
You could seriously pick anyone, and be pleased. Dreaming Neon Black is a really heavy concept album with a pretty harsh production, Dead Heart in a Dead World isn't quite as heavy, but still very excellent in all ways, and the lastest, This Godless Endeavor is also awesome with blazing riffs and solos. Any of them can be considered their best. After these 3, then you can venture into their other albums.

[Toaster]

I have Nevermore going. :) I just can't stop listening to them.. I love them... almost as much as Opeth! :eek:


/Knows in the long run he will stick with Opeth more then Nevermore

Yeah, in the grand scheme Opeth is more unique. Nevermore, as much as I love them, will always be the masters of traditional song formulas.

[Darkness]

They venture out of traditional song formulas, at least, more then some bands.

[Toaster]

Compared to Opeth, though? They're like power pop in contrast.

[Darkness]

You can't compare a band like that to a prog band though, there just a heavy metal band with some thrashy, death influences.

[Toaster]

Come on, you know what I'm saying. Opeth have more unique ideas and formulas, and are generally more interesting and rewarding to listen to. Nevermore do have them beat in the guitarist departement, though.

[Darkness]

Opeth are in a league of their own though (like Tool), they shouldn't be compared to bands like Nevermore. And yes, Jeff Loomis slays Mikeal and Peter. :D Even they said that in those Opeth guitar lessons. :lol:

[ATC]

Compared to Opeth, though? They're like power pop in contrast.

Haha, I want what you're smoking. Opeth are more often referred to as power pop than Nevermore.

[Spinal Pap]

You could seriously pick anyone, and be pleased. Dreaming Neon Black is a really heavy concept album with a pretty harsh production, Dead Heart in a Dead World isn't quite as heavy, but still very excellent in all ways, and the lastest, This Godless Endeavor is also awesome with blazing riffs and solos. Any of them can be considered their best. After these 3, then you can venture into their other albums.

Alright, well in that case I'll just pick up the one with the coolest cover art.:thumb:

[Darkness]

Alright, well in that case I'll just pick up the one with the coolest cover art.:thumb:
You will still be confronted with a tough choice. :thumb: :lol:

[One Step Beyond]

Oh well, listen to Black Rose Immortal, it might clear your head. :D
Actually, I'll put on some PsyOpus. I've been more into grindcore lately. I really only listen Opeth in the car these days. I'll get back to them, I always do. I go off on wild musical phases like this sometimes.

[Toaster]

Haha, I want what you're smoking. Opeth are more often referred to as power pop than Nevermore.

:confused: You know I meant it in terms of songwriting, right? Opeth generally write 7 min + songs. Nevermore have more or less standard structures to their songs. I don't do drugs.

[Darkness]

Like I said, there so different, that comparing them is pretty much pointless. Mikeal writes long songs, Jeff writes more technical songs with mad shredding.

[Toaster]

I really want to continue the argument! :D

My final point: More technical songs with shredding are really common these days. If you compare Opeth and Nevermore soley in terms of song structure (which is very possible), Opeth have less traditional takes on it.

[Darkness]

Nobody does it like Nevermore my friend, nobody. Yes, Opeth often have stranger song structures. I knew that from the beginning, and I don't really know what you're arguing... :p

[ATC]

I really want to continue the argument! :D

My final point: More technical songs with shredding are really common these days. If you compare Opeth and Nevermore soley in terms of song structure (which is very possible), Opeth have less traditional takes on it.

Structure does not a better band make - William Shakespeare.

[One Step Beyond]

I'll settle w/e argument you guys are having....

Opeth > Nevermore

[Darkness]

I'll settle w/e argument you guys are having....

Opeth > Nevermore
Thats an opinion!! :p


I love Opeth overall more, but right now I'm into Nevermore a lot, I'm practically a fanboy :lol:. I'll get over it, though. Theres just so much emotion and skill displayed all at once, and I think its awesome.

[Toaster]

I'll settle w/e argument you guys are having....

Opeth > Nevermore

Well, that's that. :p

I'd love to see Nevermore live. I've been off them for awhile, since I bought EOR, but I think I'll try again after tonight.

[One Step Beyond]

Thats an opinion!! :p
No! :mad:

I <3 nevermore too, but I kind of got tired of them.

[Darkness]

Do you have Dreaming Neon Black?

To toaster.

I probably will to, Damien.

N.P - Still Day Beneath The Sun

[Toaster]

I do, don't know if that's directed at me.

[Darkness]

God I love that album, its got so much power and feeling..

[Simon__Thats_All]

Finally completed the Opeth album list. Took me months to find Morning but I finally did it :D There was only a few songs on there I didn't already know, and I haven't had a chance to give them a thorough listen yet, but it seems awesome.

[One Step Beyond]

I'm still missing Still Life, but that's only because it's not released in the US and it always slips my mind when I go on my online shopping sprees.

I have it downloaded though, but that's not as cool.

[Darkness]

Yeah, I can't find Still Life either...

[Werny]

Can't find Still Life it in the US? I saw it nay but a week ago in an AUS store.

(unless you're talking getting the original jewel case release. I was lucky enough to get it second hand)

[Toaster]

I saw it at the mall the other day, and I didn't have enough money. Asked one of my friends to pick it up for me, she was like, "It'll be there next time you come." So I go the next day, and it's gone, obviously. Pretty mad about that.

[Jude]

I've definitely never seen Still Life in stores. I HAVE seen every other other Opeth album (except MAYH) in big stores like Tower, though. I'd just use Amazon or something to get it.

[Flynn]

Well, now with the release of Ghost Reveries and since they're on a bigger, well known label, It wouldn't surprise me to see any Opeth album in a larger music store. I couldn't find anything a few years ago though, I had to order all of my Opeth albums except Orchid. Amazingly, FYE actually had that album in stock.




N.P. The Pursuit Of Vikings ~ Amon Amarth

[Leper Affinity]

That's odd. When I first got into them a couple years ago major stores had just about all of their albums.

Amon Amarth! :eek:

[Hells Bells]

Well, now with the release of Ghost Reveries and since they're on a bigger, well known label, It wouldn't surprise me to see any Opeth album in a larger music store. I couldn't find anything a few years ago though, I had to order all of my Opeth albums except Orchid. Amazingly, FYE actually had that album in stock.




N.P. The Pursuit Of Vikings ~ Amon Amarth

Amon Amarth rocks.

/NP Amon Amarth - The Valkyries Ride :D

I still can't find any Opeth albums, the only one they carry now is Ghost Reveries. You can order them, but the last album I tried ordering, Majestic (Gamma Ray), I ordered at the beginning of October and it still hasn't gotten here. I'm doing everything over the internet now, I've had better luck with that.

[Cain]

Come on, you know what I'm saying. Opeth have more unique ideas and formulas, and are generally more interesting and rewarding to listen to. Nevermore do have them beat in the guitarist departement, though.

Compositionally I would vehemently disagree on the guitarist point. And plus their sense of style is so different. I love Nevermore, but after seeing them in New York a few weeks ago I can see why some people think that heavy metal is a ridiculously funny form of music: Nevermore were so "metal" that compared to Opeth, who just exuded calm, commanding greatness all night, they looked and even sounded rather silly. The power metal was just coming out their asses, style-wise.

Loomis is really good at shredding and coming up with easily headbangable technical riffs. But they don't hold a candle to Opeth in terms of compositional diversity.

Bottom line: they're two very different bands. So whatev.

[Darkness]

Bottom line: they're two very different bands. So whatev.
Exactly.

[Spinal Pap]

Well, now that that arguments over.....Blink 182>Opeth :D

[Darkness]

Well, now that that arguments over.....Blink 182>Opeth :D
Now thats just plain stupid. Blink 182 is so advanced, that compareing them to Opeth is also dumb.

[vashts80]

I went to Best Buy yesterday and they only had BWP, D&D and GR. I was sad :(
No Lamentations either. I got Rush in Rio though, so that made me happy.

[Arrakakaka]

He's joking about Blink.

Oh, and Still Life is probably Opeth's best :D

NP: Mastodon - "Megalodon"

[Darkness]

He's joking about Blink.
So was I, if you actually read my comment.

[Shattered_Future]

My BestBuy had Orchid at one point...

Never had enough money for it. :upset:

Ok, before the year is over, I'm making it my mission to pick up Lamentations.

[Spinal Pap]

Now thats just plain stupid. Blink 182 is so advanced, that compareing them to Opeth is also dumb.

:lol: True.

I went to Best Buy yesterday and they only had BWP, D&D and GR. I was sad :(
No Lamentations either. I got Rush in Rio though, so that made me happy.

That sucks, at the Best Buy near me they have like a whole half isle devoted to Opeth. They don't have Lamentations for some reason though.

NP:To Bid You Farewell

[Killtacular]

Never had enough money for it. :upset:
Get a job, you bum.

[Spinal Pap]

Get a job, you bum.

/applies to me too.

What is everyones opinion on high/low pitched growls? I've been listening to Morningrise a bunch lately and I think I might be starting to like the high pitched ones more. They sound so evil.

[Killtacular]

Low is better.

[Spinal Pap]

Hey Scruples where in TN do you live?

[Darkness]

I like the low ones more to...

[Jude]

Well, now with the release of Ghost Reveries and since they're on a bigger, well known label, It wouldn't surprise me to see any Opeth album in a larger music store. I couldn't find anything a few years ago though, I had to order all of my Opeth albums except Orchid. Amazingly, FYE actually had that album in stock.




N.P. The Pursuit Of Vikings ~ Amon Amarth
FYE and Tower already had numerous Opeth albums even before GR came out or they signed to Roadrunner.

[Kage]

FYE and Tower already had numerous Opeth albums even before GR came out or they signed to Roadrunner.
In addition to that, Best Buy and CD Warehouse were stocking every Opeth CD long before GR was even written. I found Orchid, Morningrise, MAYH, BWP, and D/D there every time. The only one that was not usually there was Still Life.

[lost_profits]

My record store here has every Opeth c.d and has each of them in good sized quantities. Now, Opeth are nowhere near as big in New Zealand as they are in the U.S (assuming the majority of yourselves live there). At the entrance of the store they usually have the months biggest sellers and Ghost Reveries made it there. The shop is called Real Groovy and almost every metal c.d imaginable is there.

I've always enjoyed Mikael Stanne's growls. He can switch between a high pitch and low pitch without much fuss. Whereas Mike Akerfeldt focuses on the low register these days, Stanne can seemingly do both.

[Toaster]

What is everyones opinion on high/low pitched growls? I've been listening to Morningrise a bunch lately and I think I might be starting to like the high pitched ones more. They sound so evil.

High is cool sometimes, but to me it gets annoying if high screams constant throughout songs. On the other hand, many vocalists can sound dumb when they try to do low pitched vocals. Both are good in moderation.

[Darkness]

I only like higher ones when there done really well, such as In Flames and Dark Tranquillity. I'm not the biggest fan of Mikeals higher one, but his lower one can't be beaten, IMO.

[Flynn]

FYE and Tower already had numerous Opeth albums even before GR came out or they signed to Roadrunner.


Yeah I know, but the FYE in my town is 90% Rap/Hip-Hop. They never have anything I need there. They used to carry a lot of great artists, especially Death Metal, but ever since FYE took over Musicland...it took a major plunge.








N.P. The Seventh Sunray Enlights My Pathway ~ Fragments Of Unbecoming

[Spinal Pap]

I only like higher ones when there done really well, such as In Flames and Dark Tranquillity. I'm not the biggest fan of Mikeals higher one, but his lower one can't be beaten, IMO.

Opeth is the only death metal band I listen to, so I've never heard any growls from other bands. How do they compare to Akerfeldt's?

[Shattered_Future]

I only like higher ones when there done really well, such as In Flames and Dark Tranquillity. I'm not the biggest fan of Mikeals higher one, but his lower one can't be beaten, IMO.

We slowed down Lost To Apathy as a joke today...

My god. The track slowed down proves there really IS a Satan. His voice is unbefreakinglievable on the slowed one.

Spinal Pap, Stanne's death growls aren't as good as Akefeldt's (a bit higher), but his midrange voice is unsurpassed.

[Spinal Pap]

We slowed down Lost To Apathy as a joke today...

My god. The track slowed down proves there really IS a Satan. His voice is unbefreakinglievable on the slowed one.

Thats cool, I'll have to try that.

Spinal Pap, Stanne's death growls aren't as good as Akefeldt's (a bit higher),

Oh ok

[Flynn]

What is everyones opinion on high/low pitched growls? I've been listening to Morningrise a bunch lately and I think I might be starting to like the high pitched ones more. They sound so evil.

I don't think it's really the pitch of his vocals, they are high, but I would never think of them as high pitch. I don't think the recording equipment in that time was prepared for Opeth, but I love it that way! He did scream a lot more though on previous albums as opposed to later. He has developed a nice growl in the procedure. But his screams are really inticing. That's one of the main reasons why I like Morningrise to much. It didn't go through a number of procedures in the studio. They just went in there, and recorded what they wrote. That album is so raw, it's beautiful.

[The Cynic]

I just learned Roads and it's his most basic, straight-foward song he's written. but he makes it sound so awesome.

[Cain]

I don't think it's really the pitch of his vocals, they are high, but I would never think of them as high pitch. I don't think the recording equipment in that time was prepared for Opeth, but I love it that way! He did scream a lot more though on previous albums as opposed to later. He has developed a nice growl in the procedure. But his screams are really inticing. That's one of the main reasons why I like Morningrise to much. It didn't go through a number of procedures in the studio. They just went in there, and recorded what they wrote. That album is so raw, it's beautiful.

What makes you think that he subjects his vocals to a lot of "procedures" today? He sings every vocal live the same way that he does in the studio.

[Spinal Pap]

I don't think it's really the pitch of his vocals, they are high, but I would never think of them as high pitch. I don't think the recording equipment in that time was prepared for Opeth, but I love it that way! He did scream a lot more though on previous albums as opposed to later. He has developed a nice growl in the procedure. But his screams are really inticing. That's one of the main reasons why I like Morningrise to much. It didn't go through a number of procedures in the studio. They just went in there, and recorded what they wrote. That album is so raw, it's beautiful.

Well, I didn't really mean that they were high pitch, just higher than his low ones, like Morningrise growls compared to BWP growls.

/loves Morningrise

[shamed-angel]

I just learned Roads and it's his most basic, straight-foward song he's written. but he makes it sound so awesome.
He didn't write it. He just sung on it. The keyboardist from Type O negative wrote it.

[Toaster]

We slowed down Lost To Apathy as a joke today...

My god. The track slowed down proves there really IS a Satan. His voice is unbefreakinglievable on the slowed one.

Spinal Pap, Stanne's death growls aren't as good as Akefeldt's (a bit higher), but his midrange voice is unsurpassed.

I don't know, I think Randy Blythe has a really good midrange growl, mostly on As The Palaces Burn. His new vocals suck.

[shamed-angel]

His vocals are awesome. The scream on Ruin is insane. Where he goes from high to low, then back up again.

[Killtacular]

Hey Scruples where in TN do you live?
Middle Tennessee. Culleoka to be exact. It's in the middle of nowhere. I'm like an hour from Nashville.

[Shattered_Future]

I don't know, I think Randy Blythe has a really good midrange growl, mostly on As The Palaces Burn. His new vocals suck.

I sorta like his new vocals though...

Lack of a different song structure puts me off from LOG. Their music sounds WAY too similar for me.

Stanne kicks Randy's *** in more ways than I can count.

[Darkness]

Ugh I hate LOG... I saw them at sounds of the underground (was there for Opeth..) and me and my bassist walked out laughing.. it was terrible.

[Flynn]

What makes you think that he subjects his vocals to a lot of "procedures" today? He sings every vocal live the same way that he does in the studio.


I saw them live in Minnesota, he sounded great. He actually sounded just like the songs on the album. He's a very talented vocalist. If you actually read what I typed, you will know I was talking about the recording equipment. And yes, he screams more on previous albums, and growls more on the latter. Sometimes I wonder if you even listen to Opeth.


Well, I didn't really mean that they were high pitch, just higher than his low ones, like Morningrise growls compared to BWP growls.

/loves Morningrise


Yes, he does scream a lot more on Morningrise compared to Blackwater Park. Blackwater Park has more growling to it. I know what you meant by higher pitch. They didn't have decent recording quality until Still Life. My Arms, Your Hearse sounded decent, quality-wise, but Still Life was so much more Crisp, and Driving.

[Det_Nosnip]

Ugh I hate LOG... I saw them at sounds of the underground (was there for Opeth..) and me and my bassist walked out laughing.. it was terrible.

Yeah. Chris Adler's a decent drummer, but I can't stand their music.

[Toaster]

I don't know why, but I've always liked LOG, even with my hatred for repetition. The fact that they aren't melodic helps.

[shamed-angel]

Who is this Stanne guy?

[the2stranger]

Morningrise > other opeth albums imo

[Toaster]

Who is this Stanne guy?

Dark Tranquility vocalist.

[Darkness]

Who is this Stanne guy?
Singer from Dark Tranquillity.


/beaten

[Flynn]

Singer from Dark Tranquillity.


/beaten


:lol: :lol: can I join you

[Spinal Pap]

Middle Tennessee. Culleoka to be exact. It's in the middle of nowhere. I'm like an hour from Nashville.

Cool, I'm in Chattanooga, in the southeast corner of TN.

Ugh I hate LOG... I saw them at sounds of the underground (was there for Opeth..) and me and my bassist walked out laughing.. it was terrible.

I also despise LOG, the lack of variety really puts me off.

[UpperDecker]

Morningrise > other opeth albums imo

I can't really decide which i think is their best but Morningrise is way up there on my list too. Whats your favorite track on Morningrise?

[Cain]

I saw them live in Minnesota, he sounded great. He actually sounded just like the songs on the album. He's a very talented vocalist. If you actually read what I typed, you will know I was talking about the recording equipment.

My mistake.

And yes, he screams more on previous albums, and growls more on the latter. Sometimes I wonder if you even listen to Opeth.


Well, I made no judgement in this regard, so I don't quite understand why you're being a putz about it.

[ElectricalStorm]

As promised here’s a lyrical analysis of April Ethereal, but before I delve into that I think its necessary to look more deeply at the text attributed to the first track on MAYH (the track has no vocals), the prologue, which sets up the story rather nicely.

Prologue

“A morning in magenta, the petals fed from the dew.
She held her breath for a moment, to pause off the stream.
Still clinging to vast, old memories.
The coffin is beautifully engraved. Stained by soil, symbols of death.
All of which are stared upon, with porcelain eyes it seems.”

We begin with a very somber setting at a burial (the rain audible on this track and the dirt that is said to stain the coffin makes this clear that this is the actual burial rather than simply the funeral). The person who has passed away (we’ll soon find out that this person it actually narrating this story) was very close to the woman mentioned in the second line—a serious relationship between the two is implied here although the specific type of relationship is currently ambiguous. This woman is grief stricken as a result of the passing and is moved to tears (The second line actually refers to her attempt to restrain herself, as she holds her breath to stop crying—to stop the stream of tears. In case any of you are prone to maudlin moments you should keep this in mind as it works :) ).

“Some spoke, and it was my turn to go.
In death entwined, I could not believe.
But it hangs around my neck.
A soft breeze passed me by, somewhat warmer for a second.
I knew it was the coming of spring, thus our APRIL ETHEREAL.”

Here we find out that it is in fact the narrator’s burial and that even met with death, the narrator cannot bring himself to accept the religious ideology embodied in the symbol that is wrapped around his neck (a symbol that we shall shortly find out is a crucifix in April Ethereal). Thus the narrator can find neither peace nor fulfillment in his afterlife and as is customary of those that reject the afterlife, he chooses for his spirit is to remain in the Earthly realm…..

[ElectricalStorm]

April Ethereal

“It was me, peering through the looking-glass.
Beyond the embrace of Christ.
Like the secret face within the tapestry.
Like a bird of prey over the crest.”

Thus the story continues albeit in a new setting. Line 2 sheds light on the last few lines in Prologue and thereby affirms that he did reject/was wearing a symbol of Christ. The narrator is described as looking intently through a window, hidden amidst his surroundings yet still well-positioned and with keen determination to not be seen (just as a bird of prey may choose to scout the landscape from a hill at the expense of greater vulnerability, as its position may further endanger itself).

“And she was swathed in sorrow, as if born within its mask.”

We can now assume he’s at or rather just outside the female characters house, although details in this case aren’t too important. This line lets us know that, alas, the poor lady is still grief stricken over the narrator’s death—and that’s the only information essential to understanding the plot. Mikael puts this in an interesting way by describing her situation “as being born within the mask (of sadness)”. Adds an interesting perspective to such emotions, a paradigm similar to one presented in Luigi Pirandello’s “Six Characters in Search of an Author” in which a family of characters are essentially freeze framed at a particular instance in time, in which they find themselves to be almost fully defined by the emotion they experienced during that said time. The characters are described by the author to be wearing very stylized masks that capture their emotion and thereby also become the most poignant definitions of their character as a result of the bizarre circumstances already described…. Oh right.. almost forgot—the tie-in. The description used here prompts the same question of by giving us an image of sadness as being an, if not impersonal mask, a universal one. When we’re sad we are the mercy at the totality of that emotion, for that instant in time it completely defines us and thereby our personal uniqueness is momentarily and possibly tragically lost beneath these masks of emotion. You may or may not find that to be true, nonetheless its captivating food for thought imo but in this case a needless aside. Sorry!

“Her candlelight snuffed, the icon smiled.
Emptiness followed by her wake.
I could clasp her in undying love.
Within ghostlike rapture the final word was mine.”

Here we get more words that document the depth of her depression—that’s the general meaning of the first 2 lines but I’m at a loss for specifics in this case. What’s more valuable is the broader understanding of the plot we receive from the next two lines—The narrator and female character had a loving relationship prior to his death and their relationship was a strand left loose so to speak—a case of unfinished business. The last line seems to comment—rather triumphantly--on how this out of body experience has allowed him to trump destiny and fulfill Earthly desires that he should no longer have after death. A sense of power that will soon lose its merit.

“She faced me in awe. 'twas a token of ebony colour.
Embodied in faint vapour.
Wandering through April's fire.
Compelled to grasp and to hold the one that was you.”

The last three lines only embellish the concepts we established earlier, he’s a ghost whose come back to hold on to his life love. However the first line is rather foreboding as it describes her response to finally seeing him as a negative one—a dark sign of the things to come (“twas a token of ebony colour”). Token here has a non-material definition—one that really isn’t too commonly associated with the word from my experience. Looking up common words in a dictionary can be of great help as many of these common words have a multiplicity of meanings. Knowledge is half the battle! [/GI Joe]

“I will endure, hide away.
I would outrun the scythe, glaring with failure.”

He is at this point willing to escape the trappings of death to be with her. The scythe is a weapon associated with the grim reaper and therefore death.

“It is a mere destiny I thought, a threshold I had crossed before.
The rain was waving goodbye, and when the night came
the forest folded its branches around me.
Something passed by, and I went into a dream.
She laughing and weeping at once: "take me away".

He believes he is capable of maintaining his position as a ghost who lingers on Earth but is soon swept away against his will by the powers of nature—the rain and forest are of sharp contrast to his current being. They are the natural in the world where he currently abides by an unnatural lifestyle. In any case he finds himself overpowered and forcefully taken away, leaving the narrator confused and at a loss for words.

“I don't know how or why, I'll never know WHEN.”

Wow finally done. Discussion welcome.

Green Light Now Begin

[ElectricalStorm]

Okay I really hate to do this but I've found that there's no way I can keep up with his stuff in a timely manner. Sucks to start something big and not finish but I really can't see myself consistently having the time to dedicate to this.

I know some ppl in this thread would be capable of picking up on where I left off, its just a matter of whether or not they want to do it. For those who want to take a closer look at the rest of the story (which I haven't done) my last piece of advice is to keep in mind the use of of season as a symbol of the story. Spring is accompanied by a lot of rain and those two are associated often with rebirth. But that's one case, one happy case but there are other interpretations and Opeth doesn't do happy. Spring and rain also wash away/get rid off the remains of fall/winter--months which are associated with death.

The MAYH plot certainly does turn sour toward the end and the narrator, judging from just the first two tracks (the only ones I've looked closely at so far), seems to be doomed to be in a predicament in which he will eventually be washed away and forgotten.

[Toaster]

Wow, that was in-depth. Good work. I'd discuss, but anything I could say would seem inferior compared to that behemoth of a post.

[naboo]

Morningrise > other opeth albums imo

Amen. Possibly the best album of all time.

EDIT: Wow, awesome job Electrical Storm.

[Flynn]

My mistake.


It's all good, Cain. I value your feedback more then most. I apologize for my outbursts lately, I've been going through the rough the past couple years due to a recent death of someone I was close to. I have ADHD, and sometimes I can't control myself. Her death had a huge impact on me and my life and I have not been myself lately. So tell me, what is your favorite Opeth album?

[UpperDecker]

Wow ElectricalStorm! That was a very interesting read and you did such a good job with it(must of took you hours).

[Flynn]

Okay I really hate to do this but I've found that there's no way I can keep up with his stuff in a timely manner. Sucks to start something big and not finish but I really can't see myself consistently having the time to dedicate to this.

I know some ppl in this thread would be capable of picking up on where I left off, its just a matter of whether or not they want to do it. For those who want to take a closer look at the rest of the story (which I haven't done) my last piece of advice is to keep in mind the use of of season as a symbol of the story. Spring is accompanied by a lot of rain and those two are associated often with rebirth. But that's one case, one happy case but there are other interpretations and Opeth doesn't do happy. Spring and rain also wash away/get rid off the remains of fall/winter--months which are associated with death.

The MAYH plot certainly does turn sour toward the end and the narrator, judging from just the first two tracks (the only ones I've looked closely at so far), seems to be doomed to be in a predicament in which he will eventually be washed away and forgotten.


I can't argue anything you've typed. What you have explained is looking deep into the microscope. I think the breaking point of the album is the outro to Credence into Karma. Certain lines in each song deal with each other in hidden ways. My Arms, Your Hearse is probably the most intricate concept album ever recorded both musically and lyrically. You need to post here more!







''And they all turn away, unable to face more of this death.''

''You have nothing more to find, you have nothing more to lose.''

[The Cynic]

He didn't write it. He just sung on it. The keyboardist from Type O negative wrote it.


I really don't trust what they say because Roadrunner said Ghost Reveries was thier 7th CD, but it's really their 8th. plus it's a 12 string guitar.

[Flynn]

I really don't trust what they say because Roadrunner said Ghost Reveries was thier 7th CD, but it's really their 8th. plus it's a 12 string guitar.


Which goes to show, never take anything by that label seriously.


Morningrise > other opeth albums imo

This is true.



Edit: Here's a segment of a song I recorded this morning. It's quality is garbage, but the song is really cool live. Check it out.

http://d20.yousendit.com/C/231PI4TFHD25Q1RNYIT4XCEK10/The%20Fall%20Of%20Osyrus%20(Complete).wav

[Killtacular]

Morningrise > other opeth albums imo
Stop lying.

It's like fourth for me, now.

[Jude]

Stop lying.

It's like fourth for me, now.
I can never decide. MAYH and especially Morningrise have really been growing on me lately. Morningrise is seriously approaching Still Life. Even Deliverance is really rising up in the ranks. Right now it looks kind of like....

Still Life > Morningrise > Blackwater Park = Damnation > GR = Deliverance = Orchid = MAYH

[Morningrise]

Morningrise > other opeth albums imo
I think it's a classic and a work of genius in the metal genre. It's one of my favorite albums of all time, hence my username.

[Deth]

I wish I could give ElectricalStorm rep. That was incredible stuff.

I may pick up the story in time, though I'm a little busy at the moment.

[Spinal Pap]

Still Life > Morningrise > Blackwater Park = Damnation > GR = Deliverance = Orchid = MAYH

Thats about where I am right now, except I don't have Still Life or Deliverance, and GR > Orchid. Morningrise is definitely first, I've been listening to it non-stop lately. I think BRI and TBYF are my favorite Opeth songs.

Nice job Storm, I love that song.

[lightningmetal666]

I'm trying to get into new bands.


I've heard the great conjuring and I was floored. What are some other good things to check out from them?

Ie, an awesome album to buy?

[Spinal Pap]

I'm trying to get into new bands.


I've heard the great conjuring and I was floored. What are some other good things to check out from them?

Ie, an awesome album to buy?

I would go with Morningrise or Blackwater Park.

[Kage]

I'm trying to get into new bands.


I've heard the great conjuring and I was floored. What are some other good things to check out from them?

Ie, an awesome album to buy?
Blackwater Park and Still Life tend to be the best starting albums. If you really liked TGC, you'd be wise to get the rest of Ghost Reveries, too.

[Killtacular]

Still Life > Damnation > Deliverance > Morningrise > Blackwater Park > My Arms, Your Hearse > Orchid > Ghost Reveries
That's right, Flynn, Orchid's almost on the bottom.

[Deth]

Still Life
Morningrise
My Arms, Your Hearse
Blackwater Park
Ghost Reveries
Damnation
Deliverance
Orchid

That's really a range of 9.0 to 9.9 though.

[Killtacular]

Such a shame D&D is so underrated 'round here.
:(

[Deth]

Hey, they get like a 9.4 and a 9.3 from me. I love them.

[Kage]

Still Life > Damnation > Deliverance > Morningrise > Blackwater Park > My Arms, Your Hearse > Orchid > Ghost Reveries
That's right, Flynn, Orchid's almost on the bottom.
And Ghost Reveries is at the bottom :upset:

[Killtacular]

And Ghost Reveries is at the bottom :upset:
It's just not up to par with the rest.
Meh. It happens.

[whatduffhuck7]

ghost reveries is not nearly as bad as you are saying it is. better than orchid, thats for sure. i like the diversity in GR

[bucket]

Ever since GR was released, I've found myself listening to Opeth heaps less. I used to listen to them... oh at least half of the time music was on. In the past month I can only recall putting on Damnation once, and that's it.

I think my disappointment in GR coupled with an interest for a genre I'd never listened to led to this. I've had no desire to put on even my favorite Opeth album. A year ago I was positive that Opeth would always be my favorite band.

Oddly, I'd still say they are my favorite band, but I just never listen to them much.

[Killtacular]

ghost reveries is not nearly as bad as you are saying it is. better than orchid, thats for sure. i like the diversity in GR

I never really said it was bad, it's just not up to par with the rest of their discography.