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vashts80
11-09-2005, 05:45 PM
I love the end solo of A Fair Judgement, especially on Lamentations (the one that goes from like 6:25 to 7:25 or so)
It makes me orgasm everytime for some reason, heh
On Lamentations it's twice as good. I'm going to listen to that right now just because of that part.
Spinal Pap
11-09-2005, 05:57 PM
On Lamentations it's twice as good. I'm going to listen to that right now just because of that part.
Dang I need to get Lamentations. I've never heard any live Opeth. How does it compare to their studio work?
vashts80
11-09-2005, 07:03 PM
Live is normally faster and better.
Det_Nosnip
11-09-2005, 07:12 PM
He recently was ousted from Dimmu Borgir... He is Lightnin Fast!!!
He's also godawful. Very sloppy, relies heavily on triggers, and has no groove whatsoever. I heard that Dimmu was going to use Hellhammer on their latest album....the band might actually be worth listening to!
vashts80
11-09-2005, 07:14 PM
Don't triggers just make the drums sound more even or something? That's what I heard anyway
Flynn
11-09-2005, 07:14 PM
I think the opening to April Ethereal is pretty heavy. And amazingly amazing.
The entire song is amazing, one of my favorites. I just love the outro. \m/
''I don't know how or why, and I'll never know When''
bucket
11-09-2005, 07:32 PM
Live is normally faster and better.
Not in A Fair Judgement's case on Lamentations. I was a bit disappointed that they noticably slowed the tempo down. It's still awesome though.
And to the darkness = heavy or whatever:
Don't you think that Damnation is dark? Hell yes it is, but I wouldn't go about calling it heavy.
Don't you think that Damnation is dark? Hell yes it is, but I wouldn't go about calling it heavy.
Right. That's the gist of what I was saying. :)
Darkness
11-09-2005, 07:38 PM
I think he ment that when somethings heavy, and dark, its made even heavier. Not that something dark is instantly heavy.
ok lateralus
11-09-2005, 08:36 PM
The entire song is amazing, one of my favorites. I just love the outro. \m/
''I don't know how or why, and I'll never know When''
Yeah, I love that. And then the riff that closes it out is so beautiful
lost_profits
11-09-2005, 09:27 PM
Hmm... well, BWP may have more huge heavy riffs, but MAYH just feels so much darker and ultimately heavier. Darkness kind of goes hand in hand with heaviness, and Blackwater Park as a whole doesn't come close in terms of darkness to the sorrowful sounds of MAYH.
The song BWP, man if they just cut it by 3 or 4 minutes it could end up to be one of my all time favs. The ending (that acoustic part) does virtually nothing for me. But yeah that first Edge Of Sanity like acoustic part just rules.
MAYH is easily Opeth's darkest album. I'll listen to BWP, Still Life, Deliverance (thanks my trusty IPOD) as I nod off to sleep, and most times the music can help me drift off to sleep. When I put MAYH on this whole different darkness comes over me.
It's by no means an easy listen.
ok lateralus
11-09-2005, 09:32 PM
The song BWP, man if they just cut it by 3 or 4 minutes it could end up to be one of my all time favs. The ending (that acoustic part) does virtually nothing for me. But yeah that first Edge Of Sanity like acoustic part just rules.
MAYH is easily Opeth's darkest album. I'll listen to BWP, Still Life, Deliverance (thanks my trusty IPOD) as I nod off to sleep, and most times the music can help me drift off to sleep. When I put MAYH on this whole different darkness comes over me.
It's by no means an easy listen.
I agree, I think it's very hard to listen to though when I do it's amazing.
Well I finally got my dvd. Now I'm trying to ident the signatures. I'm pretty sure the one in the bottom right is Per Wiberg's. Anyone know what they other guys' look like? Can you help me decipher this? Here's a pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/stefanreindl/c2417ecb.jpg
I sure can't decipher those. Take it to the official Opeth thread though.
/pwns thread with new avatar
The song BWP, man if they just cut it by 3 or 4 minutes it could end up to be one of my all time favs. The ending (that acoustic part) does virtually nothing for me. But yeah that first Edge Of Sanity like acoustic part just rules.
BLASPHEMY!
I'm listening to BWP right now and digging the last 3 or 4 minutes.
All of Opeth's albums have an either autumn or winter vibe for me.
TojesDolan
11-09-2005, 10:24 PM
Kewl Avatar, Jude.
Anyhow, I finally have my hands on my very own copy of Lamentations!!!
omgomgomgomgomg
Problem is I have no DVD player to play it with lol. The reason fo it: My parents told me "Why do you want a DVD player if you have no DVD's to play?" Valid excuse, but now I have a better one to have a DVD player.
so this post was basically about my newest acquisition. :D:D:D
TojesDolan
11-09-2005, 10:27 PM
Upper Right: Seems like "mikael" to me. Go figure.
Lopez' signatures are the ones on the left, but I can't tell which one's whose.
Darkness
11-09-2005, 11:03 PM
Bottom left is Mikeal, I'm wearing a signed shirt from him right now.
I can get the others for you tomorrow, I have a signed ticket upstairs.
I'm just merging this with the Opeth thread, guys.
Britton
11-09-2005, 11:50 PM
Dulsay!
Det_Nosnip
11-10-2005, 12:54 AM
Don't triggers just make the drums sound more even or something? That's what I heard anyway
Triggers essentially detect when the drum has been hit and output a pre-recorded sound...kinda like electronic drums except that you hit real drums. They are useful for providing more audible bass notes at high speeds and are commonly used on bass drums for extreme metal acts. What this means is that, regardless of how hard or soft you hit the drum, it will always produce the exact same sound over the PA.
Det_Nosnip
11-10-2005, 01:10 AM
Found this interview earlier with Peter...the guy's great!
http://www.musicomh.com/interviews/opeth_0905.htm
My favorite quote:
"like I said, we are just regular guys, but if people want to think we're evil, then that's cool!"
:lol:
Werny
11-10-2005, 04:57 AM
Awesome interview, one thing I've noticed about Opeth in their interviews is how they are always honest, they don't always bag out their label just for making a video or any other publicity.
But really, I wish they did get the band's approval for the video. I watched it and thought "oh lord, SELL OUTS!" but now I know the band had no control, it's all good. It's a godawful video, don't you think?
Oh, and what "image" do you guys get from Ghost Reveries? I always get this whole gothic, haunted mansion thing going on with horrible occult things going on inside. But The Grand Conjuration is like being in a cathedral with that epic riff.
finally got my signed lamentations dvd. Can hardly make out the names though.
Can anyone help me out?
Here's the pic: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/stefanreindl/c2417ecb.jpg
i am the robots
11-10-2005, 12:19 PM
No clue, their sigs are too siggeriffic.
GR doesn't do so much for me image-wise. For some reason MAYH, Deliverance and GR all don't really do that. Whereas Orchid, Morningrise and Damnation do it somewhat and SL and BWP do it a LOT. I'm not sure what about the albums does that or doesn't.
Edit: About my avatar...what does everyone think it's supposed to be? For that matter, what's up with the whole Deliverance cover? A midget on a pillow? wtf?
I always though the thing on the Deliverance cover was a puppet. For me, pretty much every Opeth album does something for me image-wise. Still Life and GR especially.
finally got my signed lamentations dvd. Can hardly make out the names though.
Can anyone help me out?
Here's the pic: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/stefanreindl/c2417ecb.jpg
I'm pretty sure the one in the bottom right says Per Wiberg and the one above that says Mikael. No clue about anything else. Help!
Bottom left is Mikeal, I'm wearing a signed shirt from him right now.
I can get the others for you tomorrow, I have a signed ticket upstairs.
whoah just noticed now my thread has been merged. Sorry for repetitions and such.
if mike's is the bottom left, what's the middle right?
Shattered_Future
11-10-2005, 02:41 PM
Martin Lopez? The second part looks kinda like an L...
I should pick up Lamentations eventually...maybe as a Christmas present. :D
Stormrider
11-10-2005, 02:48 PM
The only reason i saw Lamentations was because my bros friend shared it to him and i watched it with my bro...I dont realy think i was a fan of them then but i still liked it...And i saw music differently back then then i do now... But I think that was what kind of got me to listen to some Opeth. I would love to listen to it now...
Martin Lopez? The second part looks kinda like an L...
im pretty sure it ends in an L
TojesDolan
11-10-2005, 06:10 PM
Martin Lopez? The second part looks kinda like an L...
I should pick up Lamentations eventually...maybe as a Christmas present. :D
It's a rather cheap DVD, compared to other DVD's out there.
it's like, 11 dolars or something.
Shattered_Future
11-10-2005, 06:35 PM
15 at Tower, compared to 20 for their other DVDs.
I like the setlist on it too...
Flynn
11-10-2005, 06:53 PM
Yeah, I love that. And then the riff that closes it out is so beautiful
Yeah it is, it's so hard to play, I can't get it to sound right with my setup. It's definately a great song to start out a legendary album. You can see a huge morph in their style on it when compared to their 2 previous albums, Orchid and Morningrise. The album just proves Mikael is capable of many things, being he wrote almost everything on that album except drums. He even played bass. I just can't get enough of My Arms, Your Hearse...whenever I listen to it, it brings back some good memories. :)
Killtacular
11-10-2005, 09:30 PM
Look who else got a new avatar.
/sexy hero pose
God, your hero poses rule.
It's still not as gay as mine.
Maybe, but it's not as homo-erotic.
Look who else got a new avatar.
/sexy hero pose
I recognize that...where's it from?
Killtacular
11-10-2005, 09:44 PM
My avatar >>> yours's
Lies!!
I need a bigger avatar. Stupid 70x70 limit.
:upset:
I recognize that...where's it from?
Magic: the Gathering card called Reya Dawnbringer.
The art for those cards is so freakin' awesome.
Ah, that's right. It also reminds me of Neverwinter Nights. I never played Magic, but Neverwinter Nights is a pretty awesome game.
Magic is for nerds, not ( )p37l-l 1337.
Lies!!
I need a bigger avatar. Stupid 70x70 limit.
:upset:
Magic: the Gathering card called Reya Dawnbringer.
The art for those cards is so freakin' awesome.
My avatar is still better.
I used to play Magic back in the day but now the only people that play it are freaks and goths.
I have some old cards that are way cooler than that one. My old Lord of the Pit from 4th edition, for example. I even have some Revised edition cards. Bet you don't even know what those are.
I haven't touched my cards in forever though. I'm sure they're worth buckets of money.
Killtacular
11-10-2005, 09:57 PM
I even have some Revised edition cards. Bet you don't even know what those are.
I haven't touched my cards in forever though. I'm sure they're worth buckets of money.
I'd bet I know far more about the game than thou.
Also, there's a lot of cards that aren't worth diddly now, especially ones from Revised.
wow i love how all the real conversation in this forum gets lost in all the rubbish. :rolleyes:
It happens way too much. Back to Opeth.
I'll be seeing them in less than 24 hours :D.
Det_Nosnip
11-11-2005, 01:17 AM
Have fun, man. :chug: I'm catching Nevermore on monday to make up for the fact that they weren't at the show....to be perfectly honest, I prefer it this way, as this means that I get more Nevermore, plus I also got Pelican. No Into Eternity, though. :(
Epicurus
11-11-2005, 02:08 AM
I'd love for Opeth to tour over here.
wow i love how all the real conversation in this forum gets lost in all the rubbish. :rolleyes:
We need breaks in the conversation otherwise it's just
CreepingDeth: So................................what's everyone's favorite Still Life song?
Jude: Face of Melinda.
Darkness of Greed: The Moor. Godhead's Lament is teh ghey
CreepingDeth: Godhead's Lament fag
Flynn: Everything after Orchid is a sellout
And repeat ad nauseum.
:lol: It's a shame that's mostly true. Except I don't ask the questions here.
:lol: It's a shame that's mostly true. Except I don't ask the questions here.
:lol: I've definitely seen variations on that conversation enough times in this thread. If it's managed to go for 200 some pages without becoming consistently spam, I think a little branching off is OK.
Stupid Darkness Of Greed. Him and his Kanadian ways.
By the way, I'm having to re-upload Lateralus because it crapped out on me last night, so hopefully I'll send it within an hour or so.
Stupid Darkness Of Greed. Him and his Kanadian ways.
By the way, I'm having to re-upload Lateralus because it crapped out on me last night, so hopefully I'll send it within an hour or so.
It's cool.
I just figured out the opening riff of Bleak on bass. I need to work up the finger speed though, I can't properly play it at full tempo yet.
Edit: 4K POSTS
the bass part is actually more interesting than you may here it. MXtabs has a great tab that I used to learn the song. I don't know whether it's correct or not, but it sounds good.
----------------------------------------------
-----------7--6-----------------------------
-----5-7---------7-----5--7--7-----------
-0-------------------7---------------------
is the way I play it.
Congrats on 4k posts.
Det_Nosnip
11-11-2005, 12:12 PM
You crazy guitar/bassists with your numbers in the tabs. :lol:
i am the robots
11-11-2005, 12:39 PM
You silly drummers with your letters in the tabs :lol:.
We need breaks in the conversation otherwise it's just
CreepingDeth: So................................what's everyone's favorite Still Life song?
Jude: Face of Melinda.
Darkness of Greed: The Moor. Godhead's Lament is teh ghey
CreepingDeth: Godhead's Lament fag
Flynn: Everything after Orchid is a sellout
I dont really think this whole official thread thing is working at all.
My thread got deleted and moved into here because it regarded Opeth. Instead of getting pages of relevent responses, I got one or two and then I was drowned out by a conversation about Magic cards.
I still haven't gotten any real help.
Stormrider
11-11-2005, 03:22 PM
I dont really think this whole official thread thing is working at all.
IMO It all depends on who posts in them.
Maybe I misread a post from a long time ago in here, but was Mikeal in the band in the first line up ? Like when the band was formed.
Because I read like that there was another singer and stuff...
but like I said, I could have just misread it.
Darkness
11-11-2005, 03:55 PM
We need breaks in the conversation otherwise it's just
CreepingDeth: So................................what's everyone's favorite Still Life song?
Jude: Face of Melinda.
Darkness of Greed: The Moor. Godhead's Lament is teh ghey
CreepingDeth: Godhead's Lament fag
Flynn: Everything after Orchid is a sellout
And repeat ad nauseum.
:D :p
Stupid Darkness Of Greed. Him and his Kanadian ways.
We've been through this before, Canada > You + U.S.A.
BurningSky
11-11-2005, 04:16 PM
IMO It all depends on who posts in them.
Maybe I misread a post from a long time ago in here, but was Mikeal in the band in the first line up ? Like when the band was formed.
Because I read like that there was another singer and stuff...
but like I said, I could have just misread it.
Nah, Mikael and Peter formed the band in 1991. Read the in depth biography of the band at their official website...
Killtacular
11-11-2005, 04:19 PM
We've been through this before, Canada > You + U.S.A.
Those Eskimos and all that maple syrup have gone to your head.
Darkness
11-11-2005, 04:22 PM
Those Eskimos and all that maple syrup have gone to your head.
No, the lack of has gone to yours. :p
Have either of you ever been here?
Det_Nosnip
11-11-2005, 04:40 PM
I'd like to. Canada is looking nicer and nicer by the day...well, mostly because its not here.
Shattered_Future
11-11-2005, 04:47 PM
Yes, the state of our country seems to be going downhill more and more...
Darkness
11-11-2005, 04:50 PM
I heard something that the States were like, 38 trillion dollars in debt... thats pretty bad...
Not to mention Chinas planning to start a war with you guys soon...
Killtacular
11-11-2005, 04:53 PM
Not to mention Chinas planning to start a war with you guys soon...
Pfff... they're too busy being commies and reproducing to start a war.
We've been through this before, Canada > You + U.S.A.
Hey, I'm not American, I just live here.
I'm leaving in an hour for the show :cool:.
Flynn
11-11-2005, 06:45 PM
I dont really think this whole official thread thing is working at all.
My thread got deleted and moved into here because it regarded Opeth. Instead of getting pages of relevent responses, I got one or two and then I was drowned out by a conversation about Magic cards.
I still haven't gotten any real help.
/cry What does it matter? Just post and talk about Opeth. Oh yeah, and by the way...I never once typed ''Everything after Orchid is a sellout''. I know this because of 2 things. I don't use that word, ever, and I like everything Opeth has ever written, always have. I dont' care too much for Ghost Reveries, that's about it. I like everything Opeth has recorded. Instead of putting letters in my mouth, why don't you just post the Page number. I am looking forward to your reply.
-Thanks.
Posting Fake Quotes Causes Cancer.
Flynn
11-11-2005, 06:53 PM
IMO It all depends on who posts in them.
Maybe I misread a post from a long time ago in here, but was Mikeal in the band in the first line up ? Like when the band was formed.
Because I read like that there was another singer and stuff...
but like I said, I could have just misread it.
Yes, he was in the band from the beginning basically, but he didnt' come up with Opeth's concept. Mikael Akerfeldt was asked to contribute bass guitar to the band by its founder member, David Isberg. Isberg later left and Akerfeldt took over.
EDIT :Sorry for double post:
Stormrider
11-11-2005, 07:18 PM
Yes, he was in the band from the beginning basically, but he didnt' come up with Opeth's concept. Mikael Akerfeldt was asked to contribute bass guitar to the band by its founder member, David Isberg. Isberg later left and Akerfeldt took over.
EDIT :Sorry for double post:
Is there any recorded material with David Isberg ?
Flynn
11-11-2005, 07:21 PM
Is there any recorded material with David Isberg ?
That would be extremely rare, since he abandoned the band before Orchid was recorded. I do not know if he had anything to do with the album, but any recordings before that would be really hard to get..if there are any. All I know is he came up with the band name and concept...Akerfeldt took over.
Stormrider
11-11-2005, 07:28 PM
That would be extremely rare, since he abandoned the band before Orchid was recorded. I do not know if he had anything to do with the album, but any recordings before that would be really hard to get..if there are any. All I know is he came up with the band name and concept...Akerfeldt took over.
Oh ok...I find that actually weird because seeing Opeth today, I would think thats its Akerfeldt that was the person behind it all...
bucket
11-11-2005, 07:28 PM
I think David Isberg is partially credited for either Into the Frost of Winter or Eternal Soul Torture.
But both songs have the absolute worst sound quality ever recorded in the history of the world, so I can't say much about how good the actual songs are. Altough some parts were rehashed into other songs.
Flynn
11-11-2005, 07:45 PM
I think David Isberg is partially credited for either Into the Frost of Winter or Eternal Soul Torture.
But both songs have the absolute worst sound quality ever recorded in the history of the world, so I can't say much about how good the actual songs are. Altough some parts were rehashed into other songs.
:lol: Yeah, terrible recording quality. I know for a fact that parts of the song ''Into The Frost Of Winter'' ended up on Advent. But that was recorded in 1992, and David was already gone.
Darkness
11-11-2005, 07:57 PM
But both songs have the absolute worst sound quality ever recorded in the history of the world, so I can't say much about how good the actual songs are. Altough some parts were rehashed into other songs.
You haven't heard much black metal then. :p
Shattered_Future
11-11-2005, 08:19 PM
This may look like a cheap shot to whore my new review. Bear with me though.
I found a new band, Novembers Doom. They have a very Opeth-esque vibe around them...deep vocals, heavy pounding riffs, and haunting fingerpicked acoustic parts. Yet they have a style all their own, combining death, doom, and atmospheric metal together.
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=4253&genreid=4
At the bottom of the review, there's a link to their official webpage, with a few of their songs. Check them out...you won't be disappointed.
Darkness
11-11-2005, 09:07 PM
Wow, I'm checking that band out now.
i'm really diggin' their new album. i have all of them btw and they're my fav. band.
Man, I adore the acoustic sections of the songs on Morningrise and Orchid. As far as most of the electric stuff goes, it's two thumbs down. The last half of Black Rose Immortal (or am I thinking of In the Mist She Was Standing?) is downright amazing.
Shattered: I'm checking out the band now.
Shadows
11-11-2005, 09:12 PM
:lol: Yeah, terrible recording quality. I know for a fact that parts of the song ''Into The Frost Of Winter'' ended up on Advent. But that was recorded in 1992, and David was already gone.
I thought Into the Frost of Winter was great. It was hard to get passed the production, but it was one of Orchid's better songs.
Flynn
11-11-2005, 09:15 PM
This may look like a cheap shot to whore my new review. Bear with me though.
I found a new band, Novembers Doom. They have a very Opeth-esque vibe around them...deep vocals, heavy pounding riffs, and haunting fingerpicked acoustic parts. Yet they have a style all their own, combining death, doom, and atmospheric metal together.
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=4253&genreid=4
At the bottom of the review, there's a link to their official webpage, with a few of their songs. Check them out...you won't be disappointed.
I have that CD and I love it. They're awesome, I listen to it all the time. I think it came out sometime in March, this year, I can't remember. I ordered it from Amazon on a hunch. You have good taste, Future. :thumb:
Shattered_Future
11-11-2005, 09:40 PM
I have that CD and I love it. They're awesome, I listen to it all the time. I think it came out sometime in March, this year, I can't remember. I ordered it from Amazon on a hunch. You have good taste, Future. :thumb:
Oddly enough, I found it looking for a completely different band. :lol:
Then I downloaded their entire discography off of soulseek onto my friend's computer...I need to actually buy their albums. They're one band that I don't mind spending cash on, simply because they are so good.
Morningrise probably has some of the best acoustic work Opeth has done.
Flynn
11-11-2005, 09:57 PM
Oddly enough, I found it looking for a completely different band. :lol:
Then I downloaded their entire discography off of soulseek onto my friend's computer...I need to actually buy their albums. They're one band that I don't mind spending cash on, simply because they are so good.
Morningrise probably has some of the best acoustic work Opeth has done.
Ha! I can't remember what I was looking for at the time, but it lead me to Novembers Doom :lol: Thank whatever band I was looking for. Future, I love you! Morningrise has excellent acoustic riffs not to mention epic twin leads. The album is ''Epic'' to my persona. I can't explain it in writing, but there's a certain feeling I get when I listen to that album I cannot describe if I was forced to upon death. I am so happy I had the opportunity to hear this album in my lifetime, It has had a tremendous impact on my musical taste, and writing style. I think Morningrise is my favorite album.
Shattered_Future
11-11-2005, 10:00 PM
Oddly enough, I've only listened to Morningrise once. :upset:
I dunno if it's a combination of the fact that there's no song under 11 minutes, or the bad production, but I can't seem to get into that album.
I remember it had unbelievable riffs that never repeated though. That might have put me off (the second part, not the first).
Flynn
11-11-2005, 10:04 PM
Oddly enough, I've only listened to Morningrise once. :upset:
I dunno if it's a combination of the fact that there's no song under 11 minutes, or the bad production, but I can't seem to get into that album.
I remember it had unbelievable riffs that never repeated though. That might have put me off (the second part, not the first).
Do you want it?
Shattered_Future
11-11-2005, 10:08 PM
I have it...thanks anyway. :)
I'll give it a listen again sometime in the near future...I have WAY too much stuff I haven't listened to yet. :upset:
Spinal Pap
11-11-2005, 11:51 PM
This may look like a cheap shot to whore my new review. Bear with me though.
I found a new band, Novembers Doom. They have a very Opeth-esque vibe around them...deep vocals, heavy pounding riffs, and haunting fingerpicked acoustic parts. Yet they have a style all their own, combining death, doom, and atmospheric metal together.
I'll be sure to check them out. They sound pretty cool.
Today while listening to BWP I realized that my favorite Opeth riff is the one that comes on at about 3:15 in Bleak, when the clean vocals come in. It's so beautiful and climatic.
Det_Nosnip
11-12-2005, 12:13 AM
I heard something that the States were like, 38 trillion dollars in debt... thats pretty bad...
Not to mention Chinas planning to start a war with you guys soon...
Common misconception. The Chinese have no desire to start a war with the United States...acts or displays of militarism are simply due to the fact that they're kinda worried about us doing the same thing. If a war were started, it would most likely be initiated by the United States in response to China initiating military action in Taiwan, and even then I'm not sure if we would actually go to war over it. As a people, the Chinese are very warm and peaceful, and even their government is more interested in building itself up than necessarily knocking us down.
Anyways, this is getting VERY off topic. Opeth rules. 'nuff said.
Flynn
11-12-2005, 12:20 AM
I'll be sure to check them out. They sound pretty cool.
Today while listening to BWP I realized that my favorite Opeth riff is the one that comes on at about 3:15 in Bleak, when the clean vocals come in. It's so beautiful and climatic.
Yeah, Bleak is such a powerful song, ''Mist ripples 'round your thin white neck, and draws me a line, Cold fingers mark this dying wreck this moment is mine'' Both lyrically and musically. I think the best part of Blackwater Park, the album, starts at around 6:41 on the song Bleak. That riff as a whole is so elusive. I lose myself and go in a trance whenever I hear it. The bass is what gives it it's ''battery''
I was disappointed to learn that Steven Wilson sang the initial verse vocals of "Bleak." For the longest time I thought it was Mikael's finest melodic singing moment. :upset:
Det_Nosnip
11-12-2005, 01:33 AM
Initial verse vocals? You mean.....the growls? That's Mikael, actually.
[/intentional misunderstanding for the sake of humor]
Anyways, Mikael's finest singing point is during the acoustic sections of Godhead's Lament (screw you, Darkness :p ).
Flynn, I think I know what part you're talking about, and yes....it is amazing.
I was just watching this bootleg'd Opeth performance the guitarist in my band gave me a while ago, and it reminded me how awesome of a song A Fair Judgement is. Ok...say what you will about the rhyming scheme, some of those melodies in there are just plain :eek: !
Werny
11-12-2005, 02:32 AM
I think the greatest vocal moment for Mikael is the end of... dear God what's it called again? Moonlapse Vertigo? I think that's it, anyway, I love his vocals in that bit, I just rewind it over and over again.
And my favourite Opeth moment is probably the "his soul is a vortex" part in Baying of the Hounds, or the "I have sacrificed more than I have!" in Beneath The Mire... I dunno. Or just the whole The Drapery Falls song.
Futuro
11-12-2005, 10:28 AM
/Is seeing Opeth tonight in St.pete.
I cant wait. Not being a Death metal fan I have never heard of the two opening acts, Nevermore and...Someone else..(Forget)
Anyway, Can't wait to see it :)
Stormrider
11-12-2005, 10:32 AM
/Is seeing Opeth tonight in St.pete.
I cant wait. Not being a Death metal fan I have never heard of the two opening acts, Nevermore and...Someone else..(Forget)
Anyway, Can't wait to see it :)
Nevermore arent Death Metal...
But anyways, I hope i go see Opeth in their next tour. February I think... not to sure.
Toaster
11-12-2005, 10:32 AM
I think his greatest vocal moment is in Hours of Wealth. The part where it's just him and the guitar. His voice totally carries the song, and it's probably the song where he sings in tune the most. I think Ghost Reveries has his greatest vocals ever overall.
Futuro
11-12-2005, 10:35 AM
Nevermore arent Death Metal...
But anyways, I hope i go see Opeth in their next tour. February I think... not to sure. Oh, Whatever. They are calling the show a Death metal show. I dont care bout Genres, I listen to what is pleasing to my ears.
Stormrider
11-12-2005, 10:37 AM
Oh, Whatever. They are calling the show a Death metal show. I dont care bout Genres, I listen to what is pleasing to my ears.
Sry if that sounded sarcastic, it didnt mean to be.
Det_Nosnip
11-12-2005, 10:48 AM
Nevermore has some death influences, but the vocals are more power/thrash orientated and mostly clean. You'll probably dig 'em.....great band.
Stormrider
11-12-2005, 10:49 AM
Hey for the tour in february, are Opeth touring alone ?
Initial verse vocals? You mean.....the growls? That's Mikael, actually.
[/intentional misunderstanding for the sake of humor]
Anyways, Mikael's finest singing point is during the acoustic sections of Godhead's Lament (screw you, Darkness :p ).
Flynn, I think I know what part you're talking about, and yes....it is amazing.
I was just watching this bootleg'd Opeth performance the guitarist in my band gave me a while ago, and it reminded me how awesome of a song A Fair Judgement is. Ok...say what you will about the rhyming scheme, some of those melodies in there are just plain :eek: !
I think overall Godhead's Lament is probably some of Mikeal's greatest vocal work.
Dr. Jake Destructo
11-12-2005, 11:25 AM
I'll be sure to check them out. They sound pretty cool.
Today while listening to BWP I realized that my favorite Opeth riff is the one that comes on at about 3:15 in Bleak, when the clean vocals come in. It's so beautiful and climatic.
That's also one of my favorites. It's a great clean passage. It reminds me of elevator music with pizzazz. :p
I'm not sure I'd take that as a compliment...:) I do love that riff, though.
Killtacular
11-12-2005, 11:29 AM
Anyways, Mikael's finest singing point is during the acoustic sections of Godhead's Lament (screw you, Darkness :p ).
I concur.
Now, some of you get on MSN and give me some November's Doom.
There was a big thread on November's Doom a while back. I think Det Nosnip made it, or possibly Dancin' Man. I have a few of their songs, it's kind of like Agalloch except with better drumming and vocals.
Darkness
11-12-2005, 11:37 AM
Initial verse vocals? You mean.....the growls? That's Mikael, actually.
[/intentional misunderstanding for the sake of humor]
Anyways, Mikael's finest singing point is during the acoustic sections of Godhead's Lament (screw you, Darkness :p ).
The Moors vocal lines are much better. :D
And faith+1, you will love Nevermore... I'm slowly becoming a fanboy of that band. :upset:
I think its safe to say Mikeals best vocal work lies within Still Life.
Shattered_Future
11-12-2005, 11:38 AM
Hehe, my new find is getting recognition. :D
Scruples, if you aren't already a part of the Daily Upload, go sign up for it. My friend (the one that I downloaded Novembers Doom onto his computer) sent out an album of theirs for the email.
If not, I'll forward you the link.
Killtacular
11-12-2005, 11:48 AM
If not, I'll forward you the link.
Hit me up, G homie dawg snizzle rizzle fo fizzle.
Or something.
paranoid923
11-12-2005, 11:49 AM
Hehe, my new find is getting recognition. :D
Scruples, if you aren't already a part of the Daily Upload, go sign up for it. My friend (the one that I downloaded Novembers Doom onto his computer) sent out an album of theirs for the email.
If not, I'll forward you the link.
Awesome band... I had like 3 people get that album from me off soulseek already. If anyone wants the links IM me at paranoid923.
Hells Bells
11-12-2005, 11:52 AM
We need breaks in the conversation otherwise it's just
CreepingDeth: So................................what's everyone's favorite Still Life song?
Jude: Face of Melinda.
Darkness of Greed: The Moor. Godhead's Lament is teh ghey
CreepingDeth: Godhead's Lament fag
Flynn: Everything after Orchid is a sellout
And repeat ad nauseum.
:lol:
This is the only thread I've seen that can keep conversation going by repeating topics like that.
Hehe, my new find is getting recognition.
Scruples, if you aren't already a part of the Daily Upload, go sign up for it. My friend (the one that I downloaded Novembers Doom onto his computer) sent out an album of theirs for the email.
If not, I'll forward you the link.
Could I get that link too? I've been looking for November's Doom forever, and I can't find anything :upset:
into.the.pandemonium@gmail.com
Thanks :)
Killtacular
11-12-2005, 12:02 PM
I command everyone to look at my beautiful picture that is the result of one boring history class.
Beautiful (http://tinypic.com/fm3vvm.jpg), I say.
Dr. Jake Destructo
11-12-2005, 12:03 PM
Marshall, you'll like Nevermore. Their vocalist doesn't growl, and they're all great musicians, which I'm sure are 2 pluses for you. :)
Scruples- Wicked. :lol:
Stormrider
11-12-2005, 12:03 PM
I command everyone to look at my beautiful picture that is the result of one boring history class.
Beautiful (http://tinypic.com/fm3vvm.jpg), I say.
It would have taken me ages to do the O...
paranoid923
11-12-2005, 12:05 PM
Could I get that link too? I've been looking for November's Doom forever, and I can't find anything
into.the.pandemonium@gmail.com
Thanks :)
Links sent :thumb: I'm not sure if Shattered_Future sent them or not because he's offline.
bucket
11-12-2005, 12:09 PM
I just got back from Sam Goody. It's triple reward points day and I bought 4 CDs, so I should get back over $10 in coupon form :D.
I bought November's Doom after Shattered whoring them on here (and I downloaded two somewhat alright tracks). Everytime I've gone to look in to N section, I noticed them, but never heard anything about them until now. So **** you if it turns out to be a bad album :D
I also bought a Sigur Ros CD. Takk I believe.
Nick Drake's Pink Moon was in the used section, so I bought that (even though I already have a burnt copy) and a Stravinsky CD for good measure.
I bought all of that for $40.62 :D Not bad.
And Nevermore was brought up last page. I bought TGE a while back which I found amazingly disappointing after all the praise I've heard around these forums. The vocals are bad. Baaaaaad.
Completely Failing To Get Humorous Posts Causes Cancer.
Fixed
Darkness
11-12-2005, 12:11 PM
And Nevermore was brought up last page. I bought TGE a while back which I found amazingly disappointing after all the praise I've heard around these forums. The vocals are bad. Baaaaaad.
Lies! Warrel Danes vocals are incredible! :angry:
/my opinion
:lol:
This is the only thread I've seen that can keep conversation going by repeating topics like that.
OPETH SUCKS
ORCHID: I haven't heard but one song off it, it's ok but the stupid metal harmony riffs get repeated too much, vocals suck, production sucks.
MORNINGRISE: Nice acoustics, but lame vocals, bad production, stupid growls, BORING BORING riffs that get repeated forever just to make that song longer, that drummer sucks and why does that bass have that stupid phaser on all the time? Weak.
MY ARMS YOUR HEARSE: This is better but they still repeat too many riffs. Dumb. Plus that concept is really stupid.
STILL LIFE: Finally, they decide to go all out metal and then record a bunch of guitars with no distortion. On the first song: did they have to copy the Stairway to Heaven progression, transpose it down to Gm and then rip off Iron Maiden like that? Jesus, are we Jeff Buckley all of a sudden? What's with Benighted? Christ, those riffs get repeated for a long time. You can almost see the dotted barlines.
BLACKWATER PARK: Ugh, now everything has too much reverb. And christ, these lyrics are bad. Why does everyone say that they make so much sense? How does liquid seeping from HER chest drain ME away? Wouldn't it just drain HER away? Jesus Christ, Mikael, learn English already, you've had four albums to get it right.
DELIVERANCE: Wow, production is almost at Morningrise lows here. I guess they wanted to try really hard to be heavy here. And you know what? They succeed. At TRYING, that is. A Fair Judgement has possibly the WORST OUTRO IN MUSIC HISTORY. The rest...eh. Compositionally weak. Haven't you noticed that there are more solos on this album than any other Opeth one? I wonder why?
TIME-KILLING. "I can't think of what to write to make this song 15 minutes long."
"Shut up, Peter, play a solo, you suck at writing anyway."
DAMNATION: This. Is. Not. Metal. That said, it's a pretty decent impression of Pink Floyd. Maybe Opeth should become comedians.
GHOST REVERIES: I think I'll let Flynn take care of this one.
///hopes this will incite different conversational topics. ;)
Darkness
11-12-2005, 12:17 PM
OPETH SUCKS
......
:eek: :mad:
scenesfromatheater
11-12-2005, 12:23 PM
As much as I like Opeth (I'm going to see them in a few weeks)...Cain is right about some of the songs just being the same riffs repeated over and over again.
As much as I like Opeth (I'm going to see them in a few weeks)...Cain is right about some of the songs just being the same riffs repeated over and over again.
I'm kidding, though. I love Opeth. :) I also am only half-kidding about that part. I like it, but it's also clearly the result of compositional immaturity.
Shattered_Future
11-12-2005, 12:25 PM
Hit me up, G homie dawg snizzle rizzle fo fizzle.
Or something.
Hit me up with your email...*insert rapper speak here*.
Opeth repeats same riffs over and over again? Blasphemy! They DON'T repeat their riffs.
In their first 2 albums, they never repeat a single riff, aside from that riff's repetition cycle...once it's played, it's history.
Shadows
11-12-2005, 12:27 PM
Repetitivness is what keeps me from loving Orchid.
Darkness
11-12-2005, 12:29 PM
I'm kidding, though. I love Opeth. :) I also am only half-kidding about that part. I like it, but it's also clearly the result of compositional immaturity.
They reached maturity at Still Life - Blackwater Park, IMO.
Hit me up with your email...*insert rapper speak here*.
Opeth repeats same riffs over and over again? Blasphemy! They DON'T repeat their riffs.
In their first 2 albums, they never repeat a single riff, aside from that riff's repetition cycle...once it's played, it's history.
Yeah, but the repetition cycle is usually something like twenty times. And what do you call the outro to Advent?
They reached maturity at Still Life - Blackwater Park, IMO.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, but the repetition cycle is usually something like twenty times. And what do you call the outro to Advent?
Yeah, I agree.
Their riffs are good enough to be played 20 times.
And twenty times of a riff really isn't all that much. A lot of good rock songs repeat 2 or 3 riffs for an entire song.
scenesfromatheater
11-12-2005, 12:35 PM
The Grand Conjuration is my favourite Opeth song (I only have Ghost Reveries), but all of the song is just a few riffs played over loads of times.
Their riffs are good enough to be played 20 times.
And twenty times of a riff really isn't all that much. A lot of good rock songs repeat 2 or 3 riffs for an entire song.
Yeah, but the song is three minutes and they usually throw in a bridge. With Opeth, at least in the early days, it'd be one acoustic bit for those exact same three minutes.
Don't argue with me, you were the one that wanted a change in the discussion. :p
/kidding
Det_Nosnip
11-12-2005, 01:13 PM
How does liquid seeping from HER chest drain ME away? Wouldn't it just drain HER away?
Well, I don't know if you're actually being serious here or not, but I think that the idea is that its draining him away in more of a metaphorical sense...his humanity? his soul? his conscience? *shrug*
A Fair Judgement has possibly the WORST OUTRO IN MUSIC HISTORY.
I love the doom outro! It rules.
Darkness
11-12-2005, 01:14 PM
I love the doom outro! It rules.
Me to.
Well, I don't know if you're actually being serious here or not, but I think that the idea is that its draining him away in more of a metaphorical sense...his humanity? his soul? his conscience? *shrug*
I took his whole post as being a joke. It was really funny, either way. Besides, Bleak has some of the best lyrics/vocal melodies ever.
i am the robots
11-12-2005, 02:24 PM
I took his whole post as being a joke. It was really funny, either way. Besides, Bleak has some of the best lyrics/vocal melodies ever.
As does nearly every song with Mikael Akerfeldt and Stephen Wilson in it.
Spinal Pap
11-12-2005, 02:27 PM
I took his whole post as being a joke. It was really funny, either way. Besides, Bleak has some of the best lyrics/vocal melodies ever.
Agreed, on both Cain's post being rather funny and Bleak having outstanding vocal melodies.
As does nearly every song with Mikael Akerfeldt and Stephen Wilson in it.
True.
i am the robots
11-12-2005, 02:30 PM
Yes, Cain is freaking funny, his wit > my own.
Flynn
11-12-2005, 03:33 PM
What do you call the outro to Advent?
Beautiful.
I was kidding, guys. It was all a joke, spurred by Jude's complaint of circular discussion. And hey, what do you know, the conversation it spawned actually was interesting. :)
Det Nosnip, suddenly I seem to put you on edge, did I do something that you took offense to recently?
Werny
11-12-2005, 07:13 PM
Novembers Doom, the singer is freaking awesome, but the lyrics almost ruin it for me, they make them sound nu-metal. I've only heard Swallowed by the Moon.
Agalloch, on the other hand, wow. Way, WAY better songwriters than Opeth ever will be.
Well, Opeth was incredible in every way. Mikeal was hilarious and Into Eternity and Nevermore tore it up as well.
The Baying Of The Hounds
When
Bleak
In My Time Of Need
The Grand Conjuration
Deliverance
Face Of Melinda
Blackwater Park
Encore: Demon Of The Fall
The Grand Conjuration and Deliverance were probably the highlights of the night. The sound was perfect and the place was packed. Amazing show.
My favorite quote from Mikeal: "We are here for two reasons. One, because we love you. Two, because Martin Mendez over there wants to do a one man strip tease>" :lol:
Darkness
11-12-2005, 07:39 PM
My favorite quote from Mikeal: "We are here for two reasons. One, because we love you. Two, because Martin Mendez over there wants to do a one man strip tease>" :lol:
:lol: Awesome, glad you had fun.
I was surprised on how busy it was. Just packed. And I picked up a sweet shirt :cool:.
Spinal Pap
11-12-2005, 07:56 PM
I was surprised on how busy it was. Just packed. And I picked up a sweet shirt :cool:.
Awesome man, Mikael sounds hilarious. I might get to go to the Atlanta show, I can't wait.
Toaster
11-12-2005, 08:37 PM
Well, Opeth was incredible in every way. Mikeal was hilarious and Into Eternity and Nevermore tore it up as well.
The Baying Of The Hounds
When
Bleak
In My Time Of Need
The Grand Conjuration
Deliverance
Face Of Melinda
Blackwater Park
Encore: Demon Of The Fall
The Grand Conjuration and Deliverance were probably the highlights of the night. The sound was perfect and the place was packed. Amazing show.
My favorite quote from Mikeal: "We are here for two reasons. One, because we love you. Two, because Martin Mendez over there wants to do a one man strip tease>" :lol:
:eek: That's an awesome set list. Very heavy! :( Toaster wishes he saw Opeth in October, but alas he was broke.
How many more albums can you envision Opeth releasing? I can't see them writing more than two more albums before breaking up.
I think the only way the band would break up is if somebody in the band died. I think Mikeal would be hesitant to continue it if that happened.
Well, besides Lopez, if it's soon, god forbid that happens.
Darkness
11-12-2005, 08:40 PM
:eek: That's an awesome set list. Very heavy! :( Toaster wishes he saw Opeth in October, but alas he was broke.
How many more albums can you envision Opeth releasing? I can't see them writing more than two more albums before breaking up.
I hope they progress from Ghost Reveries, and finish their career classy, whenever that is. :thumb:
Scoot
11-12-2005, 09:27 PM
Opeth is such an incredible band.
Can anyone tell me what the longest song by them is?
Shattered_Future
11-12-2005, 09:28 PM
Black Rose Immortal. 20:16 of greatness.
Scoot
11-12-2005, 09:30 PM
Black Rose Immortal. 20:16 of greatness.
Yeah, that is a great song. I use it for my 20 min walk home from school. I must have listened to it a hundred times and I never get bored of it.
Does Mikael do all the vocals (hard and soft) or does someone else do the soft ones?
If he does both, he is truly insane.
Shattered_Future
11-12-2005, 09:36 PM
No, he does all of them.
One of the best male singers in metal today, IMO.
i am the robots
11-12-2005, 09:52 PM
Yeah, he is really talented, only people better are probably Garm, Vortex, and Lars Si.
heavy metal kid
11-12-2005, 10:34 PM
I just saw the Lamentations DVD, it's awesome. Damnation live is better than the album itself even better than the second half of the show imo.
Killtacular
11-12-2005, 11:02 PM
Hit me up with your email...*insert rapper speak here*.
Profile, G homie slice dawg.
Damnation live is better than the album itself even better than the second half of the show imo.
Damn is no longer censored here on MX.
epihasi
11-12-2005, 11:17 PM
I just saw the Lamentations DVD, it's awesome. Damnation live is better than the album itself even better than the second half of the show imo.
Yes, that DVD is godly, as are all the live versions of Damnation. Although, I feel they should have thrown in one or two pre-Blackwater songs aswell. I would haev loved to see them play April Ethereal or The Moor.
And Mikael should have used a second vocalist on the albums, newer and older aswell. Per just adds so much to the vocal harmonies, it's incredible. Mikael did a wonderful job harmonizing his vocals on all the albums, but it would have been so much more beautiful with Per, or another talented vocalist singing the second voice.
Other than that, the DVD is amazing, all the things about older songs are forgotten, once you watch the Deliverance/Damnation making-of Documentary. That is truly the best Bonus Feature they could have added to this DVD.
Det_Nosnip
11-12-2005, 11:18 PM
I was kidding, guys. It was all a joke, spurred by Jude's complaint of circular discussion. And hey, what do you know, the conversation it spawned actually was interesting.
Det Nosnip, suddenly I seem to put you on edge, did I do something that you took offense to recently?
Nah, it's all good. I really just wanted to consider the passage in further detail. I have somewhat of a sophist in me, also. :lol:
Det_Nosnip
11-12-2005, 11:20 PM
Yes, that DVD is godly, as are all the live versions of Damnation. Although, I feel they should have thrown in one or two pre-Blackwater songs aswell. I would haev loved to see them play April Ethereal or The Moor.
And Mikael should have used a second vocalist on the albums, newer and older aswell. Per just adds so much to the vocal harmonies, it's incredible. Mikael did a wonderful job harmonizing his vocals on all the albums, but it would have been so much more beautiful with Per, or another talented vocalist singing the second voice.
Other than that, the DVD is amazing, all the things about older songs are forgotten, once you watch the Deliverance/Damnation making-of Documentary. That is truly the best Bonus Feature they could have added to this DVD.
They would have loved to throw in older songs, but their then label did not have rights to that material, so they were unable to perform their own ****ing songs. Gotta love it!
epihasi
11-12-2005, 11:22 PM
Yeah I heard about that. That must suck so much. But it's still amazing. Does anyone know, or maybe guess, what the most complicated Opeth song is? Instrument-wise.
Darkness
11-13-2005, 12:13 AM
They would have loved to throw in older songs, but their then label did not have rights to that material, so they were unable to perform their own ****ing songs. Gotta love it!
They were aloud to, but they would have had to pay the old label to.
lost_profits
11-13-2005, 12:32 AM
Novembers Doom, the singer is freaking awesome, but the lyrics almost ruin it for me, they make them sound nu-metal. I've only heard Swallowed by the Moon.
Agalloch, on the other hand, wow. Way, WAY better songwriters than Opeth ever will be.
Initially I was thinking your post had some substance with the November's Doom comment.
But how is Agalloch "way WAY" better than Opeth. Surely the two styles are similar, therefore not much separates the two bands. Apart from the fact that Opeth have released 8 quality albums back to back, Agalloch two, maybe three.
A better thing to have said would've been "I prefer Agalloch over Opeth because of this/these ____ reason(s).
I prefer Opeth over Agalloch for 1001 reasons.
Werny
11-13-2005, 12:55 AM
Initially I was thinking your post had some substance with the November's Doom comment.
But how is Agalloch "way WAY" better than Opeth. Surely the two styles are similar, therefore not much separates the two bands. Apart from the fact that Opeth have released 8 quality albums back to back, Agalloch two, maybe three.
A better thing to have said would've been "I prefer Agalloch over Opeth because of this/these ____ reason(s).
I prefer Opeth over Agalloch for 1001 reasons.
Yeah, I used the wrong words.
Agalloch I find better than Opeth because they meld the acoustics into the heavy parts so well. Especially on Ghost Reveries, Opeth always just jump straight into the acoustic sections, so it's like a surprise, but with Agalloch the transitions are seamless.
Then again, you can't really put the two together, seeing as Opeth are more about changing your mood within one song it seems, whilst Agalloch keep the same desperate, cold tone throughout.
And, although his clean voice sounds like some Aussie pop band from the 90's, I like Josh's vocals better. His "growl" has all the emotion and power, yet Michael, for me, doesn't have any emotion in his growl, which is good for most songs but again, it changes the mood of the song.
Yeah, I used the wrong words.
Agalloch I find better than Opeth because they meld the acoustics into the heavy parts so well. Especially on Ghost Reveries, Opeth always just jump straight into the acoustic sections, so it's like a surprise, but with Agalloch the transitions are seamless.
Then again, you can't really put the two together, seeing as Opeth are more about changing your mood within one song it seems, whilst Agalloch keep the same desperate, cold tone throughout.
And, although his clean voice sounds like some Aussie pop band from the 90's, I like Josh's vocals better. His "growl" has all the emotion and power, yet Michael, for me, doesn't have any emotion in his growl, which is good for most songs but again, it changes the mood of the song.
Hmm..I didn't realize Agalloch was Opeth-like. I need to check them out. Care to send me some songs?
i am the robots
11-13-2005, 01:20 AM
On the topic of Opeth-esque bands, you should all check out Farmakon, they're like Opeth meets Phish.
That's an odd combination. Although, I realized, the idea of Opeth-esque bands isn't really that appealing. I mean, Novembre and Novembers Doom are alright, but they can't match the magic of Opeth in my opinion. Opeth does something different. They're my favorite metal band, and listening to bands like them would be pretty redundant.
i am the robots
11-13-2005, 01:25 AM
That's an odd combination. Although, I realized, the idea of Opeth-esque bands isn't really that appealing. I mean, Novembre and Novembers Doom are alright, but they can't match the magic of Opeth in my opinion. Opeth does something different. They're my favorite metal band, and listening to bands like them would be pretty redundant.
Trust me, Farmakon has some pretty good original parts to their music as well... they're more rhythm based for one, and their singer's accent is really thick Russian. Plus they breakdown into straight up jazz.
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'll definately check them out. They sound quite different from Opeth as well as, as you say, being similar.
i am the robots
11-13-2005, 01:28 AM
Yeah, it's not something like April Ethereal where they clearly idolize Opeth and want to be them. Though I really enjoy Advent (one of their albums).
Det_Nosnip
11-13-2005, 01:47 AM
Wait....the name of the band is "April Ethereal" and they have an album called "Advent" ? :rolleyes: That's going way too far!
i am the robots
11-13-2005, 01:54 AM
Wait....the name of the band is "April Ethereal" and they have an album called "Advent" ? :rolleyes: That's going way too far!
Yeah, but dude, it's like the level of Norther style rip-offs, it's so good that it's acceptable.
i am the robots
11-13-2005, 02:03 AM
bump
The Brad
11-13-2005, 02:11 AM
It's been awhile since I posted here so I thought I'd just drop by and see what you guys thought of this:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/bigbadbradrankin/2f229db9.jpg
i am the robots
11-13-2005, 02:19 AM
It's been awhile since I posted here so I thought I'd just drop by and see what you guys thought of this:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/bigbadbradrankin/2f229db9.jpg
Good for the style, I prefer pencil personally though, easier to control.
The Brad
11-13-2005, 02:23 AM
Yeah but stippling in pencil is a bitch. I learned that the hard way last year drawing Peter Steele. Besides, the exercise called for ink.
i am the robots
11-13-2005, 02:24 AM
Yeah but stippling in pencil is a bitch. I learned that the hard way last year drawing Peter Steele. Besides, the exercise called for ink.
I see, I prefer freeand to stippling, stippiling is seriously a bitch.
The Brad
11-13-2005, 02:25 AM
Agreed.
With that, I am off.
i am the robots
11-13-2005, 02:29 AM
Agreed.
With that, I am off.
nighto
lost_profits
11-13-2005, 02:38 AM
I actually had The Mantle by Agalloch in my clutches for a month or two. It's definetly mood music. You'd listen to this album for 6 months and when summer hits the dust would just eat it up. I honestly feel Opeth are a warmer band, but thats opinionated.
Opeth play the death-metal parts with more oomph in my opinion
the2stranger
11-13-2005, 05:24 AM
more oomph? :confused:
Opeth is Nature/Season music.
every album has a different season feel for me.
np: Arcturus - Star Crossed
DuncMaster
11-13-2005, 09:24 AM
Just bought Morningrise... this better be good!
:Shakes fist:
Just bought Morningrise... this better be good!
:Shakes fist:
It will. Advent owns.
DuncMaster
11-13-2005, 09:52 AM
It will. Advent owns.
I know that now :cool:
Killtacular
11-13-2005, 12:23 PM
It will. Advent owns.
As does To Bid You Farewell.
I've said this before, but I love the acoustic work on Morningrise, but other than that, I really don't like it much. The electric guitars are boring and cheesey-sounding in my opinion.
Flynn
11-13-2005, 01:29 PM
Just bought Morningrise... this better be good!
:Shakes fist:
You'll like Black Rose Immortal. It's such an epic song.
Panvium
11-13-2005, 01:34 PM
I've heard a lot of people say Black Rose Immortal is a good song but i've never heard it. Can someone send it to me? ObsoL33T@hotmail.com if you can
_HiGhVoLtAgE_
11-13-2005, 02:23 PM
whos the singer for opeth
hes got the most evil scream and harmonic voice ive ever heard
Darkness
11-13-2005, 02:28 PM
Mikeal Akerfeldt
Spinal Pap
11-13-2005, 02:33 PM
I've said this before, but I love the acoustic work on Morningrise, but other than that, I really don't like it much. The electric guitars are boring and cheesey-sounding in my opinion.
The acoustic work on Morningrise is great. To Bid You Farewell is one of my favorite songs. I don't really mind the electric parts though, I think they're pretty good too.
vashts80
11-13-2005, 03:04 PM
I love the bass sliding part in Advent. It rapes.
K I have a dillema.
There's a talent show, and auditions are on Tuesday. I was originally going to play Portrait of Tracy by Jaco for it, but I realized...it's wayyy too hard for me. lolol. Anyway, I decided that I'm either going to drop out, play Deliverance (I'd be doing bass and vocals and there'd be backing tracks going over the PA since nobody likes death metal) or Death's "The Philsopher."
Here's the dillema: besides Philsopher having somewhat difficult bass parts during some of it, I have to learn all of the song on bass and vocals. I know all of Deliverance, vocals and bass, but there's a 3 minute timelimit on each act.
The problem with that is there's 9 acts including me, and I doubt a few will make it. So do the math. If all 9 make it and they all stick to the 3 min limit, 9*3 = 27 minutes. I doubt they'll all stick to the timelimit, so let's say two of them go for 10 minutes each and I do Deliverance, that's 34 + 18 = 52 minutes. So I dunno which I should do.
For the record, I'm not exactly on the coordinator's good side either (she's my music teacher and I screw off in her class all the time) so that could count against me, if she decides that she's gonna pull the plug on me during auditions or the actual performance.
Shattered_Future
11-13-2005, 03:08 PM
3 minutes? What the hell is up with that? :confused:
You could always try to take the best parts of the song, and make it 3 minutes...even though it's kinda unholy, it's still Opeth.
Or, you could bring in your own powersource, so if your teacher tries to pull the plug on you, you could just keep jamming. :thumb:
vashts80
11-13-2005, 03:19 PM
Nah, it's not the powersource, I'm basically taking a backing track and having them play it through the PA and I'm playing over the PA as well.
Chopping Deliverance up into 3 minutes would be horrible. heh.
Shattered_Future
11-13-2005, 03:21 PM
Or, since you're doing vocals, you could always just do the vocal parts...
I dunno, somehow Opeth and 3 minutes go together like Michael Jackson and a girl.
The Philosopher is so fun to play.
Yeah, don't butcher Opeth.
Toaster
11-13-2005, 05:40 PM
Say you're playing something else. It's not like anyone will stop you as you're playing.
Say you're playing something else. It's not like anyone will stop you as you're playing.
If he goes on for 13 minutes in a school talent show, yes they will, and he would deserve it.
A three minute limit is a little harsh, but don't get out of control like that. The average person at a school talent show doesn't want to hear Deliverance, either. They will hate you. Trust me on this.
i am the robots
11-13-2005, 09:20 PM
Yeah, play a condensed version of something like Death Whispered a Lullaby
Darkness
11-13-2005, 09:23 PM
Or a good Damnation song, like Windowpane or In My Time of Need. :p
Shadows
11-13-2005, 09:24 PM
Death Whispered a Lullaby is a great Damnation song. :mad:
Or a good Damnation song, like Windowpane or In My Time of Need. :p
Why do you hate like every good Opeth song? :confused:
DWAL would be awesome. It's pretty catchy, good song, not TOO much over the limit...
Darkness
11-13-2005, 09:47 PM
Why do you hate like every good Opeth song? :confused:
DWAL would be awesome. It's pretty catchy, good song, not TOO much over the limit...
I just don't like the chorus to thats song, Godheads Lament is good, but nothing amazing, and I don't like the clean vocals that Steven Wilson does in Bleak. :)
Oriah
11-13-2005, 10:48 PM
and I don't like the clean vocals that Steven Wilson does in Bleak. :)
WHAT!?..I love Bleak that is like one of my favorite songs... it's not all about screaming your head off all the time... it's what is best for the song in how they see fit... and I love what they did so....there it is
plus I love PT so that might be why I love this song even more but still I like what they did.
Darkness
11-13-2005, 10:49 PM
WHAT!?..I love Bleak that is like one of my favorite songs... it's not all about screaming your head off all the time... it's what is best for the song in how they see fit... and I love what they did so....there it is
plus I love PT so that might be why I love this song even more but still I like what they did.
I think it would have sounded better if Mikeal sung it alone, I think Steves voice sounds kinda weak there.
Morningrise
11-13-2005, 11:59 PM
I think it would have sounded better if Mikeal sung it alone, I think Steves voice sounds kinda weak there.
Steven's singing on Bleak annoyed me at first. It sounded off from the rest of the song on the first couple of listens but it really grew on me. It's now one of my all time favorite Opeth tracks. I later got into Porcupine Tree because of that song :)
Bleak was amazing live. It got a huge reception.
Another quote from Mikeal - "We're thinking about stopping being a progressive death doom band and becoming a boy band."
i am the robots
11-14-2005, 07:57 AM
Opeth as a boyband.... that would be very... odd...
He said they couldn't do it though because they're ugly.
*Wearing brand new Opeth shirt :cool:*
Shred Danson
11-14-2005, 08:52 AM
Another quote from Mikeal - "We're thinking about stopping being a progressive death doom band and becoming a boy band."
:lol: You know there's gonna be a bunch of tr00 Op3th l337 fans saying "OMG OPETH IZ @B@NDONING TEH TR00 METUHL!!!!"
It's great to see they have a sense of humor.
spacemanjack
11-14-2005, 10:28 AM
Gotta mention to you guys......does anyone here listen to Devin Townsend's stuff? Not even talking about Strapping Young Lad, but his solo work.......specifically his album Terria, I must recommend to you metal junkies. After a couple listens all I could think of was "Opeth on Prozac".
Worth checking.
Shred Danson
11-14-2005, 10:29 AM
I've been meaning to check his solo stuff out, just never have...
ArcLite
11-14-2005, 10:47 AM
So...Opeth concert last Wednesday the 9th.
Into Eternity openned. I had never heard any of their stuff but they sounded pretty damn good. The singer has a killer power metal scream. A good openning band to say the least. Then Nevermore hit the stage and started blowing the place up. Excellent performance on their part. Loomis' solo and lead work was flawless and Dane sounded great as well. The highlight being when they played the title track off This Godless Endeavor, something I wasn't expecting them to play. It sounded so sweet that I had goosebumps through the whole song. Finally Mikael and crew hit the stage, openning with Baying of the Hounds. I don't recall the exact setlist but its the same as or similar to the ones others have posted. Anyway, it was amazing. Everyone was spot on playing wise, except Lindgren made a minor error in the beginning of Bleak...Oh well. Sorry I'm not better at elaborating on the show, but down to the point, it was stellar. Best concert I've been to yet, and all three bands contributed to that rating.
Det_Nosnip
11-14-2005, 12:04 PM
Yay....I can't wait for Nevermore tonight!! :eek: :eek:
Already got my Opeth dose a month ago or so, now it's time for my Nevermore. :cool:
i am the robots
11-14-2005, 12:19 PM
So...Opeth concert last Wednesday the 9th.
Into Eternity openned. I had never heard any of their stuff but they sounded pretty damn good. The singer has a killer power metal scream. A good openning band to say the least. Then Nevermore hit the stage and started blowing the place up. Excellent performance on their part. Loomis' solo and lead work was flawless and Dane sounded great as well. The highlight being when they played the title track off This Godless Endeavor, something I wasn't expecting them to play. It sounded so sweet that I had goosebumps through the whole song. Finally Mikael and crew hit the stage, openning with Baying of the Hounds. I don't recall the exact setlist but its the same as or similar to the ones others have posted. Anyway, it was amazing. Everyone was spot on playing wise, except Lindgren made a minor error in the beginning of Bleak...Oh well. Sorry I'm not better at elaborating on the show, but down to the point, it was stellar. Best concert I've been to yet, and all three bands contributed to that rating.
If you think Stu Block was good... you should have heard them when they had Kris Krall :angry:.
vashts80
11-14-2005, 12:46 PM
I finally decided on The Philosopher or Flesh and the Power it Holds (both Death songs), heh. I'll probably do Philosopher because it's shorter and won't hurt my hand as much.
I would do a song like In My Time of Need, but I can't cleanly sing. At all. I'm a baritone or a bass, I dunno, but my clean singing is horrible. I can barely sing the clean parts in Deliverance right :P
Oh well, regardless I wanna do DM. I got a long night, tonight, heh
Morningrise
11-14-2005, 12:57 PM
I finally decided on The Philosopher or Flesh and the Power it Holds (both Death songs), heh. I'll probably do Philosopher because it's shorter and won't hurt my hand as much.
I would do a song like In My Time of Need, but I can't cleanly sing. At all. I'm a baritone or a bass, I dunno, but my clean singing is horrible. I can barely sing the clean parts in Deliverance right :P
Oh well, regardless I wanna do DM. I got a long night, tonight, heh
Good choice of song. Although doing Portrait of Tracy would be badass (it's challenging and the middle to end can get a little tricky). Ha, but good luck with that, man. pwn those ****ers!
vashts80
11-14-2005, 01:07 PM
I looked at PoT, and I was like "**** dat ****" lmao
Just so you know, you aren't going to get a very good response to a death metal song as a school talent show. People are probably going to cover their ears, boo you, maybe walk out. But whatever you want.
vashts80
11-14-2005, 01:41 PM
They can't walk out, we're still in school. And the reception will be fine, I'm a legend in my school for some reason. I did Anesthesia last year, and that's definitely not ear pleasing, but I got an ovation for it heh
Shattered_Future
11-14-2005, 01:59 PM
Yay....I can't wait for Nevermore tonight!! :eek:
Already got my Opeth dose a month ago or so, now it's time for my Nevermore. :cool:
Bastard. :evil:
vashtsinsertnumbershere, good luck to ya. :thumb:
Always good to get some good music out to the masses, whether they boo you or not.
vashts80
11-14-2005, 02:17 PM
Yeah, well I'm one of those people that likes to sing at lunch time. Loudly.
I growl Opeth at lunch all the time. People hear it. Some people accept it. Others laugh or whatever. I don't care, it never mattered to me because it's my "weapon of choice," so to speak.
Perdition
11-14-2005, 02:18 PM
I know this may sound dumb but I thought I would ask it here since its the thread title, what does look your last upon the sun mean? It isnt lyrics is it? I saw it on the back of an opeth shirt and was wondering where it is from.
Spinal Pap
11-14-2005, 02:23 PM
Yeah, well I'm one of those people that likes to sing at lunch time. Loudly.
I growl Opeth at lunch all the time. People hear it. Some people accept it. Others laugh or whatever. I don't care, it never mattered to me because it's my "weapon of choice," so to speak.
lol thats kinda weird man. I wish I could growl.
NP:Porcupine Tree - She's Moved On
Morningrise
11-14-2005, 02:29 PM
I know this may sound dumb but I thought I would ask it here since its the thread title, what does look your last upon the sun mean? It isnt lyrics is it? I saw it on the back of an opeth shirt and was wondering where it is from.
I don't think they're lyrics. It's just a random line they thought would be cool to slap on the back of a shirt. I wondered about that too because it's on the back of my Deliverance t-shirt.
vashts80
11-14-2005, 02:30 PM
Growling isn't hard to do, actually. You open your jaw all the way (so your throat can't close up) and you push the air with your stomach, as if you were singing, but lower and slightly gritty
Spinal Pap
11-14-2005, 02:34 PM
I would try right now but I have some family over and they'd probably think I'd gone insane. Thanks for the tips though. I'll try later.
Shattered_Future
11-14-2005, 02:36 PM
It's fun growling. People stare at you like you're possessed. :lol:
JamJar
11-14-2005, 03:01 PM
Can anyone confirm with me whether the Opeth gig at Rock City on the 27th is a 14+ or an 18+
If it's an 18+ then boy I'm fvcking pissed :)
raz0r
11-14-2005, 03:41 PM
:angry:
I just went to buy tickets for the opeth concert in Utrecht, on the 5th november, and it's sold out. And the annoying thing is, that there were tickets left yesterday!
I can't make the next gig, on the 22nd either, because the guy i'm going with is on holiday!
:angry: :angry: :angry:
Shattered_Future
11-14-2005, 03:49 PM
Can anyone confirm with me whether the Opeth gig at Rock City on the 27th is a 14+ or an 18+
If it's an 18+ then boy I'm fvcking pissed :)
The one I wanted to go to was 18+.
I was depressed for a week after I found that out. :upset:
Toaster
11-14-2005, 03:54 PM
:angry:
I just went to buy tickets for the opeth concert in Utrecht, on the 5th november, and it's sold out. And the annoying thing is, that there were tickets left yesterday!
I can't make the next gig, on the 22nd either, because the guy i'm going with is on holiday!
:angry: :angry: :angry:
You have my sympathies. Just goes to show you, Ticketmaster is God.
Shattered_Future
11-14-2005, 03:59 PM
Ticketmaster is evil, are you joking?
It didn't tell me Dragonforce was playing THEIR ONLY US SHOW in my area...I found out from their website, only to find out that tickets sold out the day they went up.
They DID have Sonata Arctica tickets though. :D
Ticketmaster is good, but with some unnecessary evils. Like paying half the cost of the actual ticket in service fees.
Toaster
11-14-2005, 04:01 PM
I've always had luck with them.. next time check the band website for tour dates yes? :p
Hells Bells
11-14-2005, 05:17 PM
I finally decided on The Philosopher or Flesh and the Power it Holds (both Death songs), heh. I'll probably do Philosopher because it's shorter and won't hurt my hand as much.
I would do a song like In My Time of Need, but I can't cleanly sing. At all. I'm a baritone or a bass, I dunno, but my clean singing is horrible. I can barely sing the clean parts in Deliverance right :P
Oh well, regardless I wanna do DM. I got a long night, tonight, heh
Good choice :thumb: I'm learning Spirit Crusher on my brand new bass, and the intro is starting to sound decent :p
Best of luck with your talent show though....heh, death metal in a school :lol:
Shattered_Future
11-14-2005, 05:20 PM
Mmmm...brand new bass. :p
What kind?
Kage is right...Ticketmaster charges WAY too much for services. A 35 dollar ticket had 10 bucks extra for charges.
Mmmm...brand new bass. :p
What kind?
Kage is right...Ticketmaster charges WAY too much for services. A 35 dollar ticket had 10 bucks extra for charges.
Yeah, no kidding. Percentage-wise, it's even worse on less expensive tickets, because you end up literally paying half or more of the actual ticket cost in extra chrages. For my Opeth ticket, which was $15, I paid $8 in service fees. :eek:
Mazeppa
11-14-2005, 05:39 PM
Yeah, no kidding. Percentage-wise, it's even worse on less expensive tickets, because you end up literally paying half or more of the actual ticket cost in extra chrages. For my Opeth ticket, which was $15, I paid $8 in service fees. :eek:
Paying $23 beats paying £23 for your Opeth ticket tough, but still I get to see Opeth. 30th Nov., \m/
Killtacular
11-14-2005, 05:46 PM
I donated blood today. Who's proud of ol' Scruples?
Darkness
11-14-2005, 05:47 PM
I donated blood today. Who's proud of ol' Scruples?
Not me.
I donated blood today. Who's proud of ol' Scruples?
You probably just did it to get out of class, eh?
Oriah
11-14-2005, 06:04 PM
I donated blood today. Who's proud of ol' Scruples?
Ahh.. you need that stuff....go get a refund!
Flynn
11-14-2005, 06:28 PM
It's fun growling. People stare at you like you're possessed. :lol:
:lol: yeah I've had that happen to me several times. One time I was at a stop light growling along with By The Pain I See In Others, and the older people in the car next to me were staring at me like I was the anti-christ.
''Rise to submission!''
Toaster
11-14-2005, 06:32 PM
Yeah, no kidding. Percentage-wise, it's even worse on less expensive tickets, because you end up literally paying half or more of the actual ticket cost in extra chrages. For my Opeth ticket, which was $15, I paid $8 in service fees. :eek:
I'd rather have the security of knowing I'll get in online than hope to get lucky buying it elsewhere. If another online ticket service is less expensive, I'd be happy to know about it.
Darkness
11-14-2005, 06:33 PM
Yeah I don't get it, I'll casually be walking through the hall in school (which is Catholic) with my head phones on, and I'll just growl out "oooooo the lepers coiled neath the trees..." and I'll get all these weird looks. :upset:
Toaster
11-14-2005, 06:40 PM
It's really funny trying to get people at school to sing along with "my kind of music". Ordinary people trying to growl = hilarious. :thumb:
It's really funny trying to get people at school to sing along with "my kind of music". Ordinary people trying to growl = hilarious. :thumb:
I wish I knew how to growl, not because I'd ever want to put it in a song of mine, but just because it would be an awesome party trick, especially late when everyone's wasted.
I gave blood last year, I'm never doing it again. I got really sick and messed up, probably because I'm so skinny.
Darkness
11-14-2005, 07:06 PM
Me and one of my good friends use to always talk in a growly kind of voice as really young kids, we thought it was super funny. Untill the past 2 years, I've realised what an awesome vocal style it can be. :D
Killtacular
11-14-2005, 07:49 PM
You probably just did it to get out of class, eh?
That did play a slight role, but I would've given even if I didn't get out of class.
Ahhh... you need that stuff. Go get a refund.
I do?
I would get a refund, but I didn't pay for it.
I gave blood last year, I'm never doing it again. I got really sick and messed up, probably because I'm so skinny.
I only weigh 125, and I was fine. There were some people that weighed 160+ and passed out.
I can't give blood because I'm 16 :(.
/feels left out
Killtacular
11-14-2005, 08:01 PM
I can't give blood because I'm 16 :(.
/feels left out
Ahahahaa, what a loser!!
Let's all point and laugh at the loser!!
/points and laughs
Toaster
11-14-2005, 08:04 PM
Me and one of my good friends use to always talk in a growly kind of voice as really young kids, we thought it was super funny. Untill the past 2 years, I've realised what an awesome vocal style it can be. :D
I think I know what you mean.. I did that, I used to call it "ogre voice". :lol: Sounds like Cookie Monster having an orgasm.
Ahahahaa, what a loser!!
Let's all point and laugh at the loser!!
/points and laughs
:(
Did you see Opeth live though?
Killtacular
11-14-2005, 08:20 PM
:(
Did you see Opeth live though?
*sigh*
...No.
Bully.
:upset:
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