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Darkness
10-30-2005, 06:42 PM
Apparently they're doing another North American tour next year.
Are the dates posted anywhere? Because I wouldn't mind stopping by to see Mikeal and the boys again... :D

I'll take that video also, my good buddy Deth.

somebodysomeone509 at hotmail.com

bucket
10-30-2005, 06:42 PM
I turn 18 in February and I just KNOW that they will come by me the day before my birthday, and of course, it will be at an 18+ venue. There is no other way the scenario will play out. It will be exactly like that. Just watch.

Deth
10-30-2005, 06:43 PM
Are the dates posted anywhere? Because I wouldn't mind stopping by to see Mikeal and the boys again... :D

I'll take that video also, my good buddy Deth.

somebodysomeone509 at hotmail.com
Not yet.

It's audio, not video though.

Darkness
10-30-2005, 06:44 PM
I'll take it anyway, if its no problem.


Edit: I thought you don't like this song, you dirty Kan-uck.

I don't care for the song, but Opeth live is Opeth live. :D

ok lateralus
10-30-2005, 06:45 PM
I turn 18 in February and I just KNOW that they will come by me the day before my birthday, and of course, it will be at an 18+ venue. There is no other way the scenario will play out. It will be exactly like that. Just watch.
Hah I assume you're not a very lucky person

Deth
10-30-2005, 06:45 PM
Sent to Darkness.

Sent to OK Lateralus

ok lateralus
10-30-2005, 06:46 PM
Can you send it to me to?
oklateralus@yahoo.com
thanks

Txus
10-30-2005, 06:49 PM
Can you send it to me also.

Mikec2490@hotmail.com

Thanks.:thumb:

Deth
10-30-2005, 06:53 PM
Jesus, I've sent so many links tonight :p.

Sent to Txus.

Toaster
10-30-2005, 06:53 PM
Jesus, I've sent so many links tonight :p.

Sent to Txus.

I'll just upload it to this page.

Deth
10-30-2005, 06:56 PM
Can you still? Uploads aren't allowed, though I know it's a live track.

Toaster
10-30-2005, 06:57 PM
Can you still? Uploads aren't allowed, though I know it's a live track.

Yeah, it wasn't officially released by the band right? So it's legal, I assume.

Deth
10-30-2005, 07:00 PM
I guess. I got it:

Bleak - Live

Subject to posting approval

Darkness
10-30-2005, 07:01 PM
Carefull, I'm pretty sure thats against the rules.

bucket
10-30-2005, 07:01 PM
Jesus, I've sent so many links tonight :p.

Sent to Txus.

Hey everybody!

He uploaded Steven Wilson's side project Blackfield, too!

The links are going quick, so post your emails to take part in this extraordinary event!

Toaster
10-30-2005, 07:02 PM
Carefull, I'm pretty sure thats against the rules.

I just put in an inquiry in Ask The Mods, so we'll know soon enough.

Deth
10-30-2005, 07:02 PM
True, I sent out a bunch of the Blackfield ones.

I'll ask about my link.

EDIT: Nope, I can't post it, so continue the e-mailing.

Toaster
10-30-2005, 07:12 PM
I'm really sorry about that. Seems a bit silly, but rules are rules.

Riva
10-30-2005, 07:13 PM
Well, you're lucky that mx allows the forums to be indirect methods of sharing files. I personally had no problems with the YSI threads, but just realise that it could be a lot worse.

Deth
10-30-2005, 07:17 PM
Well, you're lucky that mx allows the forums to be indirect methods of sharing files. I personally had no problems with the YSI threads, but just realise that it could be a lot worse.
I agree. I was just wondering.

ATC
10-30-2005, 07:17 PM
Oo Creeping D,could ya send me the Blackfield? anticarnation@gmail.com

Deth
10-30-2005, 07:19 PM
Sended.

Atonement has really grown on me. It used to be my least favorite on GR, now I really like it.

ok lateralus
10-30-2005, 07:20 PM
Sended.

Atonement has really grown on me. It used to be my least favorite on GR, now I really like it.
Yeah it's a great song, I love the "Haa-aaa-aa" melody parts, and the weird backwards parts near the end remind me of Beatles "Tomorrow Never Knows"

Deth
10-30-2005, 07:23 PM
The vocals are incredible in that song.

ok lateralus
10-30-2005, 07:31 PM
Yeah, and the way the keyboard goes along with them, it sounds so great

relliK
10-30-2005, 07:33 PM
Can you send the Bleak vid to sicsic6icp1@netzero.net please?

Darkness
10-30-2005, 07:58 PM
I'll send it, Deth is offline.

i am the robots
10-30-2005, 08:29 PM
Guess what guys:

I couldn't get my hands on my parents credit card to order my ticket all weekend due to the fact that they were away for my dad's birthday. So I kept checking for tickets, and up until a few hours ago it wasn't sold out, and then once they finally got home, I ran up here to order my ticket, and bam, it's now sold out.

Hells Bells
10-30-2005, 08:38 PM
Huh, perfect timing :(

That sucks, but you can still see them in February. Try to get to an actual ticketmaster location so you won't get screwed over by something like that next time.

i am the robots
10-30-2005, 08:41 PM
Yeah, seriously.

Kage
10-30-2005, 08:58 PM
I would feel sick to my stomach of that happened to me.

Darkness
10-30-2005, 09:20 PM
I would feel sick to my stomach of that happened to me.
Me to. I WILL not miss them when (if..) they come here in Feb...

i am the robots
10-30-2005, 09:22 PM
I would feel sick to my stomach of that happened to me.

I'm so freaking dissapointed.... like... the entirety of my plans are ruined :upset:, I was so excited, I mean..... Opeth AND Into Eternity in one night, like quite possibly my two favorite bands ever (aside from In Flames).

Deth
10-30-2005, 09:24 PM
Somebody needs a hug.

Kage
10-30-2005, 09:24 PM
I'm so freaking dissapointed.... like... the entirety of my plans are ruined :upset:, I was so excited, I mean..... Opeth AND Into Eternity in one night, like quite possibly my two favorite bands ever (aside from In Flames).
I know how you feel...happened to me a few months ago with NIN. Of course, it was far less ironic than your circumstances, but I can relate. They'll be back around though :).

i am the robots
10-30-2005, 09:25 PM
Yes, it is ironic that my parents told me I could go, but failed to allow me to use the credit card before they left for the weekend.

Deth
10-30-2005, 09:36 PM
Back in Febuary. Remember that.

ElectricalStorm
10-30-2005, 10:12 PM
Seriously they'll be back in February--well at least Opeth will. Also keep in mind that supporting bands on this tour aren't getting much playing time (even Nevermore's set was pretty short) so you probably wouldn't be satisfied with the length of Into Eternity's set.

Also I'll mention this again; who in this thread wants to take a deeper and more focused look at the lyrics to My Arms Your Hearse? I'm sure everyone understands the gist of the concept but may I remind everyone that the true story lies is in the nuances of the lyrics--those not readily apparent.

I know Creeping Deth is ready to beast:naughty:

BlindWriting
10-30-2005, 10:18 PM
No one at home is awake right now, so I have to say:

1. The Drapery Falls contains the most evil riff on BWP.
2. I listen to Demon of the Fall about every day.
3. There isn't a single second of Ghost Reveries that isn't incredibly goddamn awesome.
4. At around 5:25, the Grand Conjuration has an amazing scream.
5. The chorus to Isolation Years is heartbreakingly beautiful. If only the song weren't so short.

Opeth rules. To me, personally, they're the culmination of my sort of "musical life", the embodiment of everything that I have been looking for the moment I started listening to music.

Hells Bells
10-30-2005, 11:05 PM
Ghost Reveries rocks :thumb:

That scream is awesome, I love how it's it's so drawn out and sounds like it's being carried by the wind, like it's being done by an evil spirit.

Det_Nosnip
10-31-2005, 09:32 AM
Yes, it is ironic that my parents told me I could go, but failed to allow me to use the credit card before they left for the weekend. Oh, that's terrible...I got my ticket like months in advance, even though my show didn't even sell out in advance (just Opeth+Pelican+Fireball, though....probably contributed). If it's not too late, you could try buying from a scalper..?

Jude
10-31-2005, 09:45 AM
Sent.

It's up for anyone who wants it.
Mistergroovy1023@gmail.com

the2stranger
10-31-2005, 09:45 AM
I don't think Opeth ever sold out.
like in a venue, not music wise :p although I'm not a big fan of Ghost Reveries

Jude
10-31-2005, 09:49 AM
Opeth rules. To me, personally, they're the culmination of my sort of "musical life", the embodiment of everything that I have been looking for the moment I started listening to music.
To me, Porcupine Tree is a lot like that, although to be fair, so are Dylan and the Beatles and I've literally been listening to them since birth.

Opeth have sold out venues, look at the gig list on their site.

They're playing Philly tonight and I can't go...being at college 5 hours away :(

Det_Nosnip
10-31-2005, 09:51 AM
No one at home is awake right now, so I have to say:

1. The Drapery Falls contains the most evil riff on BWP.
I dunno....the one in Blackwater Park right after the extended acoustic section is pretty feking :evil:


2. I listen to Demon of the Fall about every day.
Wow....well, I listen to all of music in "albums" rather than "songs," so listening to MAYH every day would be pretty hardcore. It's a sweet tune for sure, though.

3. There isn't a single second of Ghost Reveries that isn't incredibly goddamn awesome.
Finally, SOMEBODY who isn't ranting against the album! I agree.

4. At around 5:25, the Grand Conjuration has an amazing scream.
That, it does.

5. The chorus to Isolation Years is heartbreakingly beautiful. If only the song weren't so short.
I like the 5/4 intro, too.


Opeth rules. To me, personally, they're the culmination of my sort of "musical life", the embodiment of everything that I have been looking for the moment I started listening to music.
:chug:

ok lateralus
10-31-2005, 03:43 PM
2. I listen to Demon of the Fall about every day.

I listen to anywhere between 1-5 Opeth albums every day :thumb:
I hear Demon of the Fall a lot, but not every day. I don't usually listen to it out of context, and MAYH is a little too depressing to hear on a daily basis. Its such an awesome song and album though

BlindWriting
10-31-2005, 04:09 PM
Demon of the Fall is the only MAYH song I have, so I'm looking to make that the next Opeth album I buy.

ok lateralus
10-31-2005, 04:17 PM
Demon of the Fall is the only MAYH song I have, so I'm looking to make that the next Opeth album I buy.
yeah you better get on that soon. :lol: :thumb: great album
what other opeth albums do you not have?

Flynn
10-31-2005, 05:44 PM
Demon of the Fall is the only MAYH song I have, so I'm looking to make that the next Opeth album I buy.


Give me your e-mail, and I'll send it to you (YSI).

BlindWriting
10-31-2005, 05:47 PM
Give me your e-mail, and I'll send it to you (YSI).
Thanks very much for the offer, but I'm trying to avoid downloading. And also when it comes to Opeth I'd rather own the whole package.

Thanks again, though.

Flynn
10-31-2005, 05:48 PM
Thanks very much for the offer, but I'm trying to avoid downloading. And also when it comes to Opeth I'd rather own the whole package.

Thanks again, though.


I understand, I did the same thing. :) It's worth the package for the booklet alone is worth $18.

Deth
10-31-2005, 07:53 PM
Thanks very much for the offer, but I'm trying to avoid downloading. And also when it comes to Opeth I'd rather own the whole package.

Thanks again, though.
HARDCORE! I like to have all the albums of bands I love.

Shadows
10-31-2005, 09:03 PM
I desperately need to buy new Opeth. :( I've only paid for two of their albums, and I've decided to buy three others. I just have to get the money and work them amidst my list of other CDs to buy.

Deth
10-31-2005, 09:09 PM
I own all 8 of their albums :cool:.

I even have all the covers in a frame in my room, it looks really cool. Of course, now I can't get the lyrics, but it's worth it.

epihasi
10-31-2005, 09:19 PM
I only own Still life, because I live in China. I go to Europe once a year, so I can buy Opeth cds then. But Ive only been listening to Opeth for 6 months, therefore I have one album.
And Akerfeldts screams overall are incredibler, but the best one is in April Ethereal at around 6.45 minutes!

Killtacular
10-31-2005, 09:25 PM
All I actually own is Blackwater Park, which was the first one I'd heard and bought thanks to impulse off of eBay for 6 dollars.

Darkness
10-31-2005, 09:27 PM
I only own Blackwater Park, Deliverance, and Damnation. The rest are downloaded. :upset: I just can't find them anywhere... rumor has it that an HMV at West Edmonton Mall sells Morningrise, though... I'll have to stop by sometime..

Deth
10-31-2005, 09:30 PM
Am I the only one here who bought them all besides Flynn? You guys make me feel even more hardcore.

Killtacular
10-31-2005, 09:33 PM
I would, but I'm cheap as hell.

dUSK
10-31-2005, 09:34 PM
Am I the only one here who bought them all besides Flynn? You guys make me feel even more hardcore.

I have all except MA,YH which I'm yet to hear anything other than Demon of the Fall from.

Deth
10-31-2005, 09:37 PM
Well, you need to get it and then you can join the hallowed ranks of the Opeth 1337.

dUSK
10-31-2005, 09:39 PM
I know. The heart says yes, but the wallet says no.

I nearly bought this 'Special Edition' version that came in a little circular silver case, but it was $45. :upset:

Killtacular
10-31-2005, 09:39 PM
I wanna be a part of the ( )peth 1337.
:upset:

matt4
11-01-2005, 01:54 AM
Also I'll mention this again; who in this thread wants to take a deeper and more focused look at the lyrics to My Arms Your Hearse? I'm sure everyone understands the gist of the concept but may I remind everyone that the true story lies is in the nuances of the lyrics--those not readily apparent.


I was the one who originally asked you for a MAYH analysis because your "Deliverance" analysis was so good. I have been chomping at the bit (so to speak) for it since I asked. Please, post the April Ethereal analyisis!

On a side not, 7 days to OPETH!!!! (Into Eternity is cool; Nevermore is...well: I hope for a good show :))

dUSK
11-01-2005, 02:11 AM
This is Opeth's second tour with Nevermore right?

PeEpHoLe_10
11-01-2005, 02:14 AM
Does anyone know if Opeth have plans to come to Australia anytime soon?

dUSK
11-01-2005, 02:16 AM
Does anyone know if Opeth have plans to come to Australia anytime soon?

I'm yet to hear anything, but they better. And then they had better do another in-store so I can shake Mikeal's hand.

PeEpHoLe_10
11-01-2005, 02:19 AM
I completley agree.

Simon__Thats_All
11-01-2005, 04:57 AM
I'm yet to hear anything, but they better. And then they had better do another in-store so I can shake Mikeal's hand.
*crosses fingers*

i am the robots
11-01-2005, 07:03 AM
Does anyone know if Opeth have plans to come to Australia anytime soon?

I surely hope not, Aussies are always speaking with an accent and saying 'mate,' fecking wankers...

Det_Nosnip
11-01-2005, 08:32 AM
I own BWP, Still Life, Orchid, Ghost Reveries, and Dam nation. Just missing MAYH, Morningrise, and Deliverance. That's pretty awesome that you framed them, Deth. :p

Give me your e-mail, and I'll send it to you (YSI).

Nice to see you back, Flynn. :)

BurningSky
11-01-2005, 11:17 AM
I own all 8 Opeth albums..:cool:

The Halloween show was AMAZING..!

The mix was absolutely perfect, everything could be heard, and Mikael was hilarious on stage. He even made fun of the way that Martin Mendez headbangs sideways instead of up and down...

The setlist was something like this (probably missing a few):

Baying of the Hounds
When
Bleak
In My Time of Need
The Grand Conjuration
Face of Melinda
Blackwater Park

Encore: Demon of the Fall

I might be missing a few, I'm sure someone will post a more official setlist later...

Deth
11-01-2005, 11:21 AM
Nice setlist, though they all look the same now :(.

Anyway, MangaMan, welcome to the ()peth 1337.

BurningSky
11-01-2005, 11:22 AM
[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth

Anyway, MangaMan, welcome to the ()peth 1337.[/QUOTE]

\m/...

:chug:

bucket
11-01-2005, 01:23 PM
Am I the only one here who bought them all besides Flynn? You guys make me feel even more hardcore.

I've bought them all. I even was so grand as to upgrade my Orchid and Morningrise from burnt to purchased :cool:

I wish I didn't spend so much money on CDs :(

Oh well :)

ok lateralus
11-01-2005, 04:01 PM
I don't own any of their actual CD's, just downloaded ones. :(
I guess you all can cut me some slack though cause I've only been into them for a couple months and I am usually very broke.

Stormrider
11-01-2005, 04:10 PM
I don't own any of their actual CD's,
I've only been into them for a couple months.

Yeah same here, im new to Opeth but I plan on buying Orchid next time I go in a cd store :).

Dried Muffin Remnants
11-01-2005, 04:44 PM
Like I said in my last post, OPETH WAS FVCKING AWESOME LIVE! Deliverance and Bleak really stood out with the drumming and Akerfeldt's growls were so clean and powerful. When they ended with the song Blackwater Park...the crowd went crazy.

Akerfeldt was also very funny when he gave us growling lessons between songs.

Killtacular
11-01-2005, 04:58 PM
I wanna see Opeth live.

:upset:

Spinal Pap
11-01-2005, 05:01 PM
I don't own any of their actual CD's, just downloaded ones. :(
I guess you all can cut me some slack though cause I've only been into them for a couple months and I am usually very broke.

Same way here man.

I just heard Godhead's Lament for the first time about a week ago and thought it was pretty good. The solo that starts at around 3:00 is awesome. I also love the clean vocals in this song, as opposed to the growls which I don't find particularly great. I'll probably like them a lot better after I listen to it more though.

Flynn
11-01-2005, 05:08 PM
This dude I work with has never heard of Opeth right, he says he's into hardcore death metal and what not, so I let him listen to The Master's Apprentices...his response. ''Isn't that the Dungeons and Dragons theme song hahahaha'' I was like ''...'' I thought to myself, he was either joking, or that the stuff he listens to is more ''hardcore'' to him. Anyways, as I walked out of the parking lot when it was time to leave, as he was driving away, he was listening to that Vertigo song by U2, and singing along with it trying to headbang! He mocks Opeth, yet he headbangs to U2. I just laughed to myself and drove home.




Nice to see you back, Flynn.

I missed you guys. :upset:

Stormrider
11-01-2005, 05:08 PM
I wanna see Opeth live.

:upset:


Yeah same here, i didnt go last week but there coming back in montreal early next year :) ...I think.

Killtacular
11-01-2005, 05:11 PM
I missed you guys. :upset:

:-*

Hells Bells
11-01-2005, 05:59 PM
I'm yet to hear anything, but they better. And then they had better do another in-store so I can shake Mikeal's hand.

I got to at the end of the show :D

It looks like all the shows were pretty much the same, not that it made them any less awesome.

Yeah same here, i didnt go last week but there coming back in montreal early next year ...I think.

Yeah, they're touring again in February :D

Shattered_Future
11-01-2005, 06:07 PM
Hopefully at an under 18 venue. :angry:

ok lateralus
11-01-2005, 08:24 PM
So... what's everyone's favorite Opeth song at the moment?
Me, mine is def Demon of the Fall

Flynn
11-01-2005, 08:38 PM
So... what's everyone's favorite Opeth song at the moment?
Me, mine is def Demon of the Fall


Advent

Toaster
11-01-2005, 08:40 PM
Probably Serenity Painted Death. It's got the coolest grooves in it, plus his vocal work is awesome. I think someone already mentioned that the riff uses that pinch harmonic really well.

Txus
11-01-2005, 08:49 PM
So... what's everyone's favorite Opeth song at the moment?
Me, mine is def Demon of the Fall
Bleak!:D

killa_bees77
11-01-2005, 09:05 PM
Isolation Years, thats right, isolation years

Deth
11-01-2005, 09:09 PM
Me too! I love that song!

lost_profits
11-01-2005, 09:20 PM
Does anyone know if Opeth have plans to come to Australia anytime soon?

If they come to Australia, chances are they'll brush New Zealand aside. So I have to prepare a Plan B and book a flight to Oz.

I wonder if they would sell out a N.Z tour? I'm not too sure of the Opeth fan base here. I know there's an excess of Dimmu Borgir, Cradle Of Filth fans but they're too elite for their own good.

Killtacular
11-01-2005, 09:22 PM
So... what's everyone's favorite Opeth song at the moment?
Me, mine is def Demon of the Fall
Hope Leaves
:cool:

lost_profits
11-01-2005, 09:24 PM
Fav. Opeth song at the moment

White Cluster

"hangman clutching at his tools" I will come for youuuu!":thumb:

Crysiss
11-01-2005, 09:28 PM
Face Of Melinda, That song is beautiful

Deth
11-01-2005, 09:29 PM
I love the guitar solo in that song. It's so different from any of their others.

ArcLite
11-01-2005, 09:30 PM
Currently it's Bleak and In The Mist She Was Standing. I've been playing the hell out of the O lately.

Crysiss
11-01-2005, 09:38 PM
okay people. whats everyones favourite song to play on an instrument all the way thru?
Mine would be black rose immortal, but i only play the first solo and deliverance, but i dont like playing the last part of the song. it just seems to drone on and one

ArcLite
11-01-2005, 09:40 PM
The only Opeth I can play is the first couple minutes of Bleak.

Darkness
11-01-2005, 09:41 PM
I just know the odd riff from Opeth... I plan on learning Face Of Melinda and Still Day Beneath the Sun sometime soon though.

heyheymymy
11-01-2005, 09:52 PM
the riff in closure is awesome. its great to learn the stuff form damnation because its so diverse.

killa_bees77
11-01-2005, 11:06 PM
My favorite opeth song to play is Benighted or Leper Affinity. I can play Drapery Falls all the way through as well (thats the first song from Opeth i learned). Still Day Beneath The Sun is also fun once you figure it out.

epihasi
11-02-2005, 03:28 AM
I love playing the beginning of most Damnation songs. Windowpane is great.
Fac of Melinda, the intro is also amazing. I haven't tried any other songs. Which ones would you recommend? Which song just amazes you, by the wonderful structure of the chords?

The Arisen
11-02-2005, 06:36 AM
I know most of Black Rose Immortal, but I haven't tried to put it together yet.

Ending Credits and Windowpane are both great. Actually, the whole of Damnation is.

Blackwater Park is also hella fun to play.

PLEASE play Black Rose Immortal live in London on the 30th! PLEASE!

My ideal setlist would be (including a couple of GR songs):

Ghost of Perdition
The Leper Affinity
Black Rose Immortal
To Bid You Farewell
Bleak
The Grand Conjuration
Windowpane
Blackwater Park
-encore-
Demon of the Fall

spacemanjack
11-02-2005, 09:01 AM
Drapery Falls has some very cool parts to play, but the loud parts are pretty weak on just one guitar. Patterns in the Ivy II is amazingly beautiful, I don't know how he comes up with some of those fingerings.

But if you gots the skillz, Melinda comes through perfectly on one guitar, start to finish. The loud part isn't hard, but the fingering in the rest is pretty tricky.

Deth
11-02-2005, 09:02 AM
Bleak and Advent are incredibly fun to play on bass.

Shred Danson
11-02-2005, 09:04 AM
Blackwater Park is also hella fun to play.

Oh no doubt :)

I love playing "Demon of The Fall", too...it's got so many great riffs in it. "The Leper Affinity" is also fun to play...

Txus
11-02-2005, 09:11 AM
Bleak and Advent are incredibly fun to play on bass.
To Bid Your Farewell is my favorite to play on bass.:D

Deth
11-02-2005, 09:17 AM
I can't be bothered to tune down to play that song. I'm so lazy when it comes to tuning. I try to avoid drop D for that reason as well.

Shred Danson
11-02-2005, 09:20 AM
I can't be bothered to tune down to play that song. I'm so lazy when it comes to tuning. I try to avoid drop D for that reason as well.

Ha, it ain't a bother for me...

I get bored WRITING in Dropped-D tuning..

Txus
11-02-2005, 09:24 AM
I can't be bothered to tune down to play that song. I'm so lazy when it comes to tuning. I try to avoid drop D for that reason as well.
That's the reason why i have 2 basses.:D

Deth
11-02-2005, 09:25 AM
Yeah, I find the stuff I write to be a lot more interesting if I stay in standard.


EDIT: To Txus, I need another bass :(.

Shred Danson
11-02-2005, 09:29 AM
Yeah, I find the stuff I write to be a lot more interesting if I stay in standard.

Yeah, a lot of people as what tuning we play in, and I just say "standard, bitch!" :lol: ...we are leaning on tunign down a step though...

Deth
11-02-2005, 09:41 AM
I can't write technical stuff in drop tunings. I forget where I am.

Hells Bells
11-02-2005, 10:01 AM
My favourite Opeth song to play is Silhouette..its so dark and ominious. I just got my bass, so I wanted to start doing something else, like Blackwater Park looks like it would be fun. That, and it's one of my favourite songs by them :p

Deth
11-02-2005, 10:04 AM
You can play Silhouette on piano? That's pretty sweet.

Shred Danson
11-02-2005, 10:07 AM
I wish I could play piano, man...

Txus
11-02-2005, 10:10 AM
I want to learn BWP on bass!

Shred Danson
11-02-2005, 10:11 AM
I want to learn BWP on bass!

It's a pretty simple song...I don't think it'd be too hard to play on bass.

Deth
11-02-2005, 10:14 AM
The tabs pretty easy. If you're a decent slapper for the end part, it wouldn't be a problem.

I may learn that later today. I've got nothing better to do.

Txus
11-02-2005, 10:15 AM
It's a pretty simple song...I don't think it'd be too hard to play on bass.
I'll try to learn it today cauz i have nothing better to do.:p

Hells Bells
11-02-2005, 10:15 AM
You can play Silhouette on piano? That's pretty sweet.

Heh, only like the first three pages, after hours of scouring the net for pages that give/sell sheet music, that's all I can find. I've figured out most of the rest of it...I should just finish the rest of the damn thing and get it over it :lol:

I wish I could play piano, man...

/throws beginner piano books at ICB

Then go start learning :p

Deth
11-02-2005, 10:18 AM
I used to be pretty good at piano. Then I stoped playing, and now I've lost all my skillz.

I regret that.

Shred Danson
11-02-2005, 10:19 AM
/throws beginner piano books at ICB

Hey, while you're at it, through a fricken' piano at me :lol: ...

I want to be able to do the stuff I can on guitar and then play it on keyboards...that would be awesome (I'm such a CoB-head)...but I really want to learn how to play piano so I could do some dark, melodic intros and shit...plus I'd bust out some Opeth at school in the band room :lol: I'm getting the band director here into Opeth.

I'll try to learn it today cauz i have nothing better to do. :p

Good luck :) I'll probably be recording today...

Crysiss
11-02-2005, 10:27 AM
ahh, im starting to play piano.....pauses.....well, keyboard lol

But i learned a fair judgement and the grand conjuration with they keyboard

Shred Danson
11-02-2005, 10:28 AM
I just spend too much time on my guitar to bother actually learning how to play piano...I know where the notes are and everything I just haven't spent a lot of time playing as I probably should...

Sixty Ton Angel
11-02-2005, 12:09 PM
I wish I could learn to piano.
Probably the most beatiful instrument in my opinion.

My grandparents have one and they say I'm always welcome to go down and practise but I'd really love one of my own.

I have a keyboard but never really saw the appeal......

Deth
11-02-2005, 12:11 PM
Keyboards just don't have nearly the same aura.

Sixty Ton Angel
11-02-2005, 12:15 PM
Or enough buttons :rolleyes:

Toaster
11-02-2005, 01:17 PM
I played piano for years, then I got really bored with it and quit. I got to gr 9 Conservatory grade though, so I can legally teach piano at any institute. :D

Just thought I'd blow my own horn a little. :p

Toaster
11-02-2005, 01:18 PM
It's a pretty simple song...I don't think it'd be too hard to play on bass.

But that slapping part is sweet.

Shred Danson
11-02-2005, 01:19 PM
But that slapping part is sweet.

I concur.

Shattered_Future
11-02-2005, 01:24 PM
I took a year of piano when I was 6, stopped at 7, and started screwing around with it again at the beginning of the summer.

I attempt to write piano/keyboard parts for my music, and I know the rudiments of piano...just not very good at it. :upset:

Used to be quite good...not anymore.

Det_Nosnip
11-02-2005, 01:42 PM
Or enough buttons :rolleyes:

Mine has 88 keys. Do I really need THAT many more? :rolleyes:

I happen to love keyboards. Although nothing can beat the pure acoustic sound of a perfectly tuned piano, keyboards and synthesizers can do so much more musically. The technology just keeps getting better, and some of the softsynths they are developing (Synful Orchestra, for example) are flat out amazing.

Plus, as a 22 year old who works at Starbucks, a MIDI keyboard is simply a much more realistic option. It was $200, I don't have to tune it, and I can make it sound like ANYTHING I want to if I try hard enough.

Deth
11-02-2005, 01:46 PM
Again though, you can't beat a grand piano.

Shattered_Future
11-02-2005, 01:49 PM
I like synths though...they give you a lot more options to work with.

While a piano has only one sound (granted, its quite a good one), synths have thousands. Plus, you can do some really spacy stuff you can't do on a normal piano.

I have a SMALL *** keyboard...no idea how many keys it has. It's like a children's keyboard...extremely small keys, and 6 settings. :D

We also have a normal piano, just not a grand piano.

Toaster
11-02-2005, 01:50 PM
Again though, you can't beat a grand piano.

Mine's CONSTANTLY going out of tune. It sits right beside a window, and I think that has to do with it somehow, with the changes in temperature and such. Grands are good (they're grand in fact :p ), but they are very expensive and take up a ton of room. You can get a very similar sounding synthesiser that doesn't go out of tune for half the price and an eighth of the space.

bucket
11-02-2005, 01:54 PM
Heh, only like the first three pages, after hours of scouring the net for pages that give/sell sheet music, that's all I can find. I've figured out most of the rest of it...I should just finish the rest of the damn thing and get it over it :lol:


Can you link me? I've searched for those pages, but all my searches found was dead links.

I could probably find them if I tried hard enough, but I like the easy way. Link please! :p

ok lateralus
11-02-2005, 03:56 PM
So... least favorite Opeth album?

Mine would have to be Ghost Reveries. Not nearly as emotional or complex as the others, and Reverie/Harlequin Forest kinda blows. Though there are some really fantastic songs. I guess it's about a 8/10, which is why it's the worst Opeth album for me, cause all of their others are 10/10s :thumb:

Shadows
11-02-2005, 03:59 PM
From the albums I'm really familiar with, I'd say Deliverence is my least favorite.

Toaster
11-02-2005, 04:01 PM
So... least favorite Opeth album?

Mine would have to be Ghost Reveries. Not nearly as emotional or complex as the others, and Reverie/Harlequin Forest kinda blows. Though there are some really fantastic songs. I guess it's about a 8/10, which is why it's the worst Opeth album for me, cause all of their others are 10/10s :thumb:

Heh, you're the thread designated conversation starter. :thumb:

I'd say either Damnation or Orchid is my least favourite. Damnation just doesn't have what I like best about Opeth- the balance of heavy and light, and the awesomely odd chord progressions. It's a great light album, just not a great Opeth album.

ok lateralus
11-02-2005, 04:04 PM
Heh, you're the thread designated conversation starter. :thumb:

I'd say either Damnation or Orchid is my least favourite. Damnation just doesn't have what I like best about Opeth- the balance of heavy and light, and the awesomely odd chord progressions. It's a great light album, just not a great Opeth album.

Hmm, yeah I kind of see what you mean about that, it sounds maybe a little bland compared to, say, Still Life. But actually it has some of Opeth's most interesting chord progressions, I'd say. The guitar playing is really unique.

Toaster
11-02-2005, 05:10 PM
Hmm, yeah I kind of see what you mean about that, it sounds maybe a little bland compared to, say, Still Life. But actually it has some of Opeth's most interesting chord progressions, I'd say. The guitar playing is really unique.

I don't think it's unique at all, really. In fact I think the only real good thing about it is that even though the song ideas have been done to death (not by Opeth), at least they're done very well. Even his voice isn't that great. I guess the more I listen to it, the more reasons I find not to enjoy it.

Flynn
11-02-2005, 05:12 PM
Fav. Opeth song at the moment

White Cluster

"hangman clutching at his tools" I will come for youuuu!":thumb:


That song is tight, I love how it fades out...

''...Beckoning right behind me...'' then that little acoustic riff to end a great album. :)

Txus
11-02-2005, 05:18 PM
I just learned BWP on bass....the slapping part almost at the end was a bit complicated cauz i suck at slapping but i figure it out, IM SO FREAKING HAPPY! :D

Flynn
11-02-2005, 06:14 PM
I just learned BWP on bass....the slapping part almost at the end was a bit complicated cauz i suck at slapping but i figure it out, IM SO FREAKING HAPPY! :D


That's cool dude, I love playing along with that song. I go nuts at the end. btw, what kind of Bass do you have?

Txus
11-02-2005, 06:21 PM
That's cool dude, I love playing along with that song. I go nuts at the end. btw, what kind of Bass do you have?
I have a Yamaha RBX170 which was my first one, and also a ESP J-1005 LTD Deluxe 5 string bass.

Deth
11-02-2005, 06:46 PM
I have a Spector Legend 4. Love it with all my heart.

I think my least favorite album is Orchid. I still like it, it's just not as refined as the other albums.

Flynn
11-02-2005, 07:01 PM
I have a Yamaha RBX170 which was my first one, and also a ESP J-1005 LTD Deluxe 5 string bass.

Nice. I have a Fender Lone Star Stratocaster. Before that, I was using a squire. This Lone Star made a world of difference. :lol:

Deth
11-02-2005, 07:03 PM
Just about anything does after having a Squire.

/former Squire owner

ok lateralus
11-02-2005, 07:04 PM
Nice. I have a Fender Lone Star Stratocaster. Before that, I was using a squire. This Lone Star made a world of difference. :lol:
Hah yeah I bet. Squires= pieces of ****.

I need a strat.

Darkness
11-02-2005, 07:05 PM
I have this weird squier bullet thing... pretty crappy. (guitar though..)

I also have this B.C Rich Strat... which is my main axe. I love it. :)

Deth
11-02-2005, 07:05 PM
Strats aren't very metal guitars though. Unless you happen to be in Iron Maiden.

ok lateralus
11-02-2005, 07:07 PM
Strats aren't very metal guitars though. Unless you happen to be in Iron Maiden.

Eh, it really doesn't matter. I mean it's not like you actually can't play metal on a strat... it's mostly a style-related thing because the strat is known as more of a blues/classic rock guitar. Even without putting some humbuckers in, strats are fine for metal Opeth-ish stuff.

Deth
11-02-2005, 07:09 PM
I know. But I was never able to get a good tone out of a strat for metal.

Darkness
11-02-2005, 07:10 PM
I know. But I was never able to get a good tone out of a strat for metal.
Same, I really don't like the tone of a strat myself.

ok lateralus
11-02-2005, 07:11 PM
I was borrowing a strat when writing some death metal tunes for my band, it sounded pretty good. I guess an ibanez or something would suit that kind of music better but i couldnt tell the difference. Plus I like playing blues and a lot of other stuff too so i like the versitality of it. I guess its just personal preferece.

Kage
11-02-2005, 07:11 PM
Eh, it really doesn't matter. I mean it's not like you actually can't play metal on a strat... it's mostly a style-related thing because the strat is known as more of a blues/classic rock guitar. Even without putting some humbuckers in, strats are fine for metal Opeth-ish stuff.
Of course, Strats are made to sound twangier and thinner, which is not the Opeth sound.

Txus
11-02-2005, 07:12 PM
Nice. I have a Fender Lone Star Stratocaster. Before that, I was using a squire. This Lone Star made a world of difference. :lol:
I know what you mean, when i switched from Yamaha to Esp i felt so great.

Toaster
11-02-2005, 07:12 PM
That's why almost no metal guitarists use Strats. I use an ESP myself, and I love the active EMGs. They're totally suited for any type of music.

Deth
11-02-2005, 07:14 PM
EMGs rawk. I have them on my bass.

Kage
11-02-2005, 07:15 PM
That's why almost no metal guitarists use Strats. I use an ESP myself, and I love the active EMGs. They're totally suited for any type of music.
I don't like active pickups so much myself, because I feel it's harder to get a good clean tone out of them, and I actually prefer the distortion of non-actives. I use a DiMarzio Tone Zone in my bridge position which is the best pickup for distortion that I've ever used.

I just bought a Parker Nitefly M. This thing is so amazing. :D

Toaster
11-02-2005, 07:16 PM
I don't like active pickups so much myself, because I feel it's harder to get a good clean tone out of them, and I actually prefer the distortion of non-actives. I use a DiMarzio Tone Zone in my bridge position which is the best pickup for distortion that I've ever used.

I just bought a Parker Nitefly M. This thing is so amazing. :D

I don't know, I love how EMGs sound so thick through distortion. The added gain can be a bit of a problem when playing clean though, I agree. Get a bridge passive pickup.

Deth
11-02-2005, 07:18 PM
EMGs for bass give me such a beautiful clean sound. Of course, I never use distortion anyway.

Kage
11-02-2005, 07:18 PM
I don't know, I love how EMGs sound so thick through distortion. The added gain can be a bit of a problem when playing clean though, I agree. Get a bridge passive pickup.
The added gain is what bothers me, even with distortion. But I can get really thick tones without the actives with the DiMarzio and the mahogany wood of the guitar, with the right amp settings. Right now I'm saving up to buy a Mesa/Boogie Single Recto as an upgrade to my current solidstate.

Kage
11-02-2005, 07:19 PM
EMGs for bass give me such a beautiful clean sound. Of course, I never use distortion anyway.
There's no doubt EMGs are good, but we're talking active versus passive. That's where it comes down to personal preference, really.

Toaster
11-02-2005, 07:35 PM
The added gain is what bothers me, even with distortion. But I can get really thick tones without the actives with the DiMarzio and the mahogany wood of the guitar, with the right amp settings. Right now I'm saving up to buy a Mesa/Boogie Single Recto as an upgrade to my current solidstate.

If you want really great distortion without having to spend for that Mesa, get a Line6. Honestly, those amps are my favourite ever. I played through a Spider II stack in one of my shows, and it sounded so good.. totally solid amps, contrary to popular belief.

Deth
11-02-2005, 07:37 PM
There's no doubt EMGs are good, but we're talking active versus passive. That's where it comes down to personal preference, really.
Well, I'm talking bass pickups, and that's an entirely different ball game.

Plus, EMGs look cool.

Toaster
11-02-2005, 07:39 PM
Well, I'm talking bass pickups, and that's an entirely different ball game.

Plus, EMGs look cool.

:lol: no question.

Shadows
11-02-2005, 07:40 PM
Oh man, do I (heart) a good set of active EMGs on my guitar. :cool: The cleans aren't bad and the distorted tone is the best for metal.

Kage
11-02-2005, 07:42 PM
Well, I'm talking bass pickups, and that's an entirely different ball game.

Plus, EMGs look cool.
Yeah, that's basically what I was getting at. :)


If you want really great distortion without having to spend for that Mesa, get a Line6. Honestly, those amps are my favourite ever. I played through a Spider II stack in one of my shows, and it sounded so good.. totally solid amps, contrary to popular belief.
The co-guitarist in my band plays a Line6, and I really like it. The one he has can get so many different tones, some good some bad, but it is a really good amp. Best solidstate I've heard.

Still, I played on a Single Recto of my guitar instructor's and was blown away by the sounds. I couldn't believe that what I was hearing was actually coming from my hands and not that of a professional guitarist. I'm willing to spend the money, especially to completement my Parker. :)

Deth
11-02-2005, 07:44 PM
I really need a new amp. I only have a 30 watt bass amp right now.

Shadows
11-02-2005, 07:46 PM
My friend plays a Line6 Spyder II. It's not bad, but in terms of solid states, I'll take my Crate over his amp any day.

Kage
11-02-2005, 08:03 PM
My friend plays a Line6 Spyder II. It's not bad, but in terms of solid states, I'll take my Crate over his amp any day.
What Crate do you have?

Deth
11-02-2005, 08:05 PM
Speaking of amps and the such, does Mike used a scooped sound? I can never really tell with that sort of thing.

Toaster
11-02-2005, 08:13 PM
My friend plays a Line6 Spyder II. It's not bad, but in terms of solid states, I'll take my Crate over his amp any day.

Well, funny story, another band playing the night I used the Line6 was playing a Crate stack.. not even kidding, the amp blew out about 20 seconds into the set. He had to switch to the Line6, mid-song.

Not saying anything about Crate amps, it's just a coincidence. My experience is that Crates don't sound very good for distortion, though.

Toaster
11-02-2005, 08:14 PM
Speaking of amps and the such, does Mike used a scooped sound? I can never really tell with that sort of thing.

No, he's all about the midrange. He uses a tiny amount of gain, too. It's a really unique distorted guitar tone actually.

Deth
11-02-2005, 08:18 PM
That's good. I never liked using a scooped sound.

Although, on Lamentations, I think it was at the end of Master's Apprentices, Mikeal hits two chords and they sounded scooped to my ears. Again, I'm not knowledgable in the realm of guitar tones.

Toaster
11-02-2005, 08:24 PM
That's good. I never liked using a scooped sound.

Although, on Lamentations, I think it was at the end of Master's Apprentices, Mikeal hits two chords and they sounded scooped to my ears. Again, I'm not knowledgable in the realm of guitar tones.

I'll give it another listen sometime, but it's unlikely. He wouldn't switch rhythm guitar tones during a song, its just not practical. Listen to Metallica's And Justice For All for the epitome of all scooped guitar tones, then listen to Ghost Reveries, and you'll see the difference.

Darkness
11-02-2005, 08:31 PM
Any idea of what his EQ settings are?

Toaster
11-02-2005, 08:34 PM
Any idea of what his EQ settings are?

If I'm playing Opeth I'll dial in generally 4 Bass, 7 Mid, 8 High. Gain at about 9 o'clock. That's just me though- I know his Laney amps are very distinctive sounding at high volume levels, so it's hard to duplicate.

Shadows
11-02-2005, 08:36 PM
What Crate do you have?
GT3500

The power is insane. My friend's Line6 couldn't keep up at all. The sound is surprisingly clear for a solid state.

I agree that Crates aren't the best for distortion, but i like mine.

The Cynic
11-02-2005, 08:42 PM
It's a pretty simple song...I don't think it'd be too hard to play on bass.

Learn Advent, Nectar, and To Bid You Farewell. Those are fun songs to play on bass.

Hells Bells
11-02-2005, 09:11 PM
Hey, while you're at it, through a fricken' piano at me :lol: ...

Maybe I will...

/throws piano at ICB :p


I want to be able to do the stuff I can on guitar and then play it on keyboards...that would be awesome (I'm such a CoB-head)...but I really want to learn how to play piano so I could do some dark, melodic intros and shit...plus I'd bust out some Opeth at school in the band room :lol: I'm getting the band director here into Opeth.



heh, nice.

I'd love to be able to play some CoB on the keyboards, Janne Warmen does some awesome stuff.

/NP Kissing the Shadows...I can't wait to hear this one on November 11th

Can you link me? I've searched for those pages, but all my searches found was dead links.

I could probably find them if I tried hard enough, but I like the easy way. Link please!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~pluympot/weblinks/silhouette/

There ya go ;)

Jude
11-02-2005, 09:12 PM
Learn Advent, Nectar, and To Bid You Farewell. Those are fun songs to play on bass.
Mendez is good, but I think the bass on Morningrise just stands out way more than on any other album. I really dig the old bass player.

Anyone know what type of gear that guy/Mendez uses? I think Mendez uses a Fender P, which is what I've got, but I don't know what kind of amps.

Deth
11-02-2005, 09:15 PM
Mendez uses a Fender Jazz. Sometimes on the softer songs he uses a Marcus Miller Sig Jazz. As for amps, he uses Laney like the guitarists.

ElectricalStorm
11-02-2005, 10:51 PM
I just bought a Parker Nitefly M. This thing is so amazing. :D

:amaze: :amaze: :amaze: Those guitars are some of the sexiest guitars I've ever seen. I'm not familiar with the different kinds of models but please don't tell me yours has a pickguard--its ruins the look!

Cain
11-03-2005, 01:40 AM
Opeth concert in 14 hours!

I'm psyched. I hope I can sleep all right.

Det_Nosnip
11-03-2005, 06:08 AM
Mendez is good, but I think the bass on Morningrise just stands out way more than on any other album. I really dig the old bass player.

Anyone know what type of gear that guy/Mendez uses? I think Mendez uses a Fender P, which is what I've got, but I don't know what kind of amps.

Meh..it's definitely alot more aggressive and technical, but I personally find Mendez's playing to be much more interesting. It's alot more groove orientated, and the man is solid as ****. I assume he plays/has played alot of jazz and funk, and it really helps. Maybe this is just me-the-drummer speaking, but IMO it's alot more important that the rhythm section is locked in and tight than that the musicians are able to play really complex things...sure, their parts may sound better and be more fun to play alone, but they simply don't sound as good together.

i am the robots
11-03-2005, 07:06 AM
Opeth concert in 14 hours!

I'm psyched. I hope I can sleep all right.

You better have pre-ordered your tickets, paying at the door no longer works :upset:.

Jude
11-03-2005, 08:26 AM
Meh..it's definitely alot more aggressive and technical, but I personally find Mendez's playing to be much more interesting. It's alot more groove orientated, and the man is solid as ****. I assume he plays/has played alot of jazz and funk, and it really helps. Maybe this is just me-the-drummer speaking, but IMO it's alot more important that the rhythm section is locked in and tight than that the musicians are able to play really complex things...sure, their parts may sound better and be more fun to play alone, but they simply don't sound as good together.
I think the bass on Morningrise is perfect. It might not work as well on the newer albums so it's probably good that they have Mendez now. However it's interesting to hear some good, noticeable bass playing on a metal record. Pretty much every metal song I've ever heard (many Opeth songs included) lack bass presence so I guess the 'aggressive' playing is something interesting.
Mendez DOES groove though, but he just doesn't stand out to me that much.

Cain
11-03-2005, 09:17 AM
You better have pre-ordered your tickets, paying at the door no longer works :upset:.

Uh, yes, I did pre-order. I'd have to be insane to try and go see a band like that without it, and stupid to pay money to take the train to Grand Central, pay to take the subway to Union Square, and then walk three blocks only to find out that I can't get in.

Strangely enough, actually, given that this is the NYC show, it's not sold out yet.

Shred Danson
11-03-2005, 09:22 AM
Opeth concert in 14 hours!

I'm psyched. I hope I can sleep all right.

Lucky you :( ...I saw them on SOTU, they were great, man...tell me if they play "Demon of The Fall"...they usually close with that song.

spacemanjack
11-03-2005, 10:02 AM
That's why almost no metal guitarists use Strats. I use an ESP myself, and I love the active EMGs. They're totally suited for any type of music.

I hear you, and that's why I was very surprised to see Devin Townsend playing a Strat during some Strapping Young Lad footage.....I mean, not too many heavier sounds than those guys. Surely he rigged it up, just don't know why he'd bother.

Deth
11-03-2005, 10:03 AM
Mendez's style is much more suited to the direction they've been going in since MAYH. If he were around for the first two albums, I don't think the albums would sound nearly as interesting.

Mendez's best playing is on Damnation though. It's not complicated, just really grooving.

NP: Blackwater Park

Jude
11-03-2005, 11:19 AM
Mendez's style is much more suited to the direction they've been going in since MAYH. If he were around for the first two albums, I don't think the albums would sound nearly as interesting.

Mendez's best playing is on Damnation though. It's not complicated, just really grooving.

NP: Blackwater Park

Agreed about Damnation.

NP: Billy Joel: Scenes from an Italian Restaurant

Kage
11-03-2005, 11:35 AM
:amaze: :amaze: :amaze: Those guitars are some of the sexiest guitars I've ever seen. I'm not familiar with the different kinds of models but please don't tell me yours has a pickguard--its ruins the look!
No, certainly not. I hate the pickguard look. These guitars are amazing--certainly the best I've ever played on.

Here's a picture of mine:

http://www.parkerguitars.com/code/models/models_nitefly_m_intro.asp

I love the natural wood finish.

Deth
11-03-2005, 12:43 PM
One of my best friends brother's is really good friend's with Mikeal (I just found this out), so I may be able to get backstage next Friday :D. Any pics I get will be posted here.

Shred Danson
11-03-2005, 12:58 PM
One of my best friends brother's is really good friend's with Mikeal (I just found this out), so I may be able to get backstage next Friday :D. Any pics I get will be posted here.

Another lucky S.O.B! :lol:

Deth
11-03-2005, 01:03 PM
Well, we'll see. My friend hasn't been known for pulling this sort of stuff of. Though he does have pictures of his brother eating lunch with Mikeal.

Biancazzurri
11-03-2005, 01:05 PM
Once Mikael said that he is playing his songs on an acoustic guitar and then he knows that this would sound heavy on electric because its already heavy on acoustic. I have only acoustic guitar and it sounds sh!t! :(

Morningrise
11-03-2005, 01:14 PM
I think the bass on Morningrise is perfect. It might not work as well on the newer albums so it's probably good that they have Mendez now. However it's interesting to hear some good, noticeable bass playing on a metal record. Pretty much every metal song I've ever heard (many Opeth songs included) lack bass presence so I guess the 'aggressive' playing is something interesting.
Mendez DOES groove though, but he just doesn't stand out to me that much.
Hearing Morningrise for the first time 2 years ago inspired me to pick up the fretless bass :D I really loved the wet tone Johan used on that album.

Then I found Jaco...

i am the robots
11-03-2005, 02:02 PM
Hearing Morningrise for the first time 2 years ago inspired me to pick up the fretless bass :D I really loved the wet tone Johan used on that album.

Then I found Jaco...

Yes, Johan was really good, too bad he was an alchoholic or whatever.

scenesfromatheater
11-03-2005, 02:07 PM
My Opeth experience:

The song 'The Grand Conjuration' was played to me...and then I bought the album the next day.

i am the robots
11-03-2005, 02:27 PM
My Opeth experience:

The song 'The Grand Conjuration' was played to me...and then I bought the album the next day.

Guess what: Get all of their albums. They're even better.

BurningSky
11-03-2005, 02:31 PM
Mendez's best work is on Damnation, most definitely. I love slower, groovier bass, and the bass on Damnation just clicks with me perfectly...

Biancazzurri
11-03-2005, 02:46 PM
Bass on "To Bid you Farewell" is the best i've ever heard.

i am the robots
11-03-2005, 02:48 PM
Bass on "To Bid you Farewell" is the best i've ever heard.

YES! I love it, and the bass on Nectar and Night and the Silent Water, oh God, amazing.

TheJem
11-03-2005, 03:06 PM
Opeth are an incredible band. Everytime i hear a new song by them im just blown away.
One of the best bands of our time in my opinion.

Patterns in the Ivy needs a mention (cos im listening to it now). Just so calm, atmospheric and beautiful.

Spinal Pap
11-03-2005, 03:29 PM
Patterns in the Ivy needs a mention (cos im listening to it now). Just so calm, atmospheric and beautiful.

I just so happen to be listening to Patterns in the Ivy right now too. It's so relaxing and peaceful. My 2nd favorite Opeth instrumental.(For Absent Friends is first.)

Morningrise
11-03-2005, 03:30 PM
Yes, Johan was really good, too bad he was an alchoholic or whatever.
Is that why Mikael kicked him out of the band? I could never look up the reason for Johan's departure.

Biancazzurri
11-03-2005, 03:32 PM
YES! I love it, and the bass on Nectar and Night and the Silent Water, oh God, amazing.
The beginning of nectar with bass just blowing.

AA-12
11-03-2005, 03:33 PM
Does anyone know the religious beliefs of anyone in Opeth?

ok lateralus
11-03-2005, 03:42 PM
Does anyone know the religious beliefs of anyone in Opeth?

I don't think anyone here really knows for sure if they believe in God or not, and which God at that. However of course in Still Life the narrarator is persecuted for not following the same religion as the "council of the cross". So, Mikael may very well be an athiest, or at least dislike christianity. I really don't know though.

Killtacular
11-03-2005, 04:46 PM
Does anyone know the religious beliefs of anyone in Opeth?
Not only do I not know, but I don't care, either. What does it matter, really?

This one guy I know won't listen to any band unless they're Christian. It pisses me the hell off.

Toaster
11-03-2005, 04:58 PM
Does anyone know of a site that really explains the concept of Still Life in detail? I'm not the best at deciphering concepts.

Flynn
11-03-2005, 05:01 PM
Bass on "To Bid you Farewell" is the best i've ever heard.

Nice :) I've never heard anything else quite like it. The bass on that song is amazing. It's not that difficult to play after the beginning, but it's not the complexity of how it was recorded or played, it's how it sounds with the rest of the instruments that really matter. The greatest of songs must have noticable, well structured bass to become ''whole''.


















''Devotion eludes, and in sadness I lumber
In my own ashes, I am standing without a soul
She wept and whispered 'I know'... ''

i am the robots
11-03-2005, 05:33 PM
That whole song is worth quoting... oh man, it's probably Opeth's best soft song.

Hells Bells
11-03-2005, 05:52 PM
Not only do I not know, but I don't care, either. What does it matter, really?

This one guy I know won't listen to any band unless they're Christian. It pisses me the hell off.

Then there are some people who won't listen to bands who are, which is just as annoying. I know what you mean though, I know a couple people like that...it's their loss, they're missing out on a lot.

Does anyone know of a site that really explains the concept of Still Life in detail? I'm not the best at deciphering concepts.
http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=141

ATC
11-03-2005, 06:11 PM
Does anyone know the religious beliefs of anyone in Opeth?

The grand conjuration is written for Satan, or so Mikael said during the show. And his wife has Satanist books that he's getting into, or something like that. Not that it matters but yea.

Jude
11-03-2005, 06:15 PM
The grand conjuration is written for Satan, or so Mikael said during the show. And his wife has Satanist books that he's getting into, or something like that. Not that it matters but yea.
Satanist =/= occult. The Grand Conjuration is not written 'for' Satan. It's part of the incomplete concept of GR which involves occult themes and someone summoning Satan or whatever.
Still Life isn't really all that religiously themed, it just takes place in medieval Europe where a heretic is cast out of his village and so he hates the Christians that did it.
I don't think anyone really knows the views of the people in the band, but I think I read in one interview that Akerfeldt isn't religious.

As for the concept of Still Life: I can explain it, I'll type it out later, I don't feel like it now.

ATC
11-03-2005, 06:36 PM
Satanist =/= occult. The Grand Conjuration is not written 'for' Satan. It's part of the incomplete concept of GR which involves occult themes and someone summoning Satan or whatever.
Still Life isn't really all that religiously themed, it just takes place in medieval Europe where a heretic is cast out of his village and so he hates the Christians that did it.
I don't think anyone really knows the views of the people in the band, but I think I read in one interview that Akerfeldt isn't religious.

As for the concept of Still Life: I can explain it, I'll type it out later, I don't feel like it now.

I'm just repeating what Mikael said at a show in Vancouver. Apparently, his sound engineer (?) was 'slightly religious' and thats why the prayer to Satan (I think thats what he said) was taken off the final mix and was included in the version they played at the show. I was too deep in the moshpit to pay enough attention to the actual words to know if they actually did include it in the song. I never claimed he was Satanist or occultist or anything.

Shattered_Future
11-03-2005, 07:04 PM
Mrrr, evil over 18 Opeth show was today. :evil:

Still pissing me off...

Dried Muffin Remnants
11-03-2005, 07:09 PM
Yup, these guys or Akerfeldt write(s) great poetry.

BlindWriting
11-03-2005, 07:20 PM
Mikael Akerfeldt is a poet of the dark side. Some is his lyrics, regardless of the vocal style he uses to declaim them, are incredibly beautiful. I have no gripes in considering his work poetry.

Killtacular
11-03-2005, 09:36 PM
Mm.. that's some good Damnation.

Darkness
11-03-2005, 09:47 PM
Mm.. that's some good Damnation.
No, its not.


Mm.. that's some good Deliverance.

Killtacular
11-03-2005, 09:49 PM
Either/or is good.
I prefer the light side of things at the moment.

Cain
11-03-2005, 09:49 PM
Just got back from the Opeth show. The utter greatness is still ringing in my ears. Webster Hall was a fantastic venue, and the sound was unbelievable. Reviews band-by-band:

Into Eternity: I got there just as they were finishing, and what I heard was pretty good. They were certainly playing up a storm, but their style was a bit Kerry King-like, which I wasn't too fond of. Still and all, decent.

Nevermore: They had a 45-minute set which pleased me to no end. The group was in top form...unfortunately I was situated on the left side of the stage and so did not get to see Loomis' hands very clearly, but the band was unbelievably good. They played "Final Product," "Born," "My Acid Words," "Enemies of Reality" (which I was really happy about), and a few others that are probably off different albums that I haven't heard, as I did not recognize them. Their drummer especially was outstanding.

Opeth: I have this to say: they are GODS live. I must say, NONE of their albums, not even their live DVD, gives an anywhere NEARLY accurate impression of just how heavy their songs become when performed live. Everybody that says Opeth are too boring and too mellow needs to see them perform their metal numbers live. Nevermore were already fantastically heavy and are still in my estimation a band with some of the best metal grooves of the past five years, but Opeth just wiped the floor with them. They had every person in the place banging their heads off. Unfortunately, my appreciation level was diminished due to the distractions of being in such tight quarters (I was two people back from the barrier, not a fun place to be) and of a man, literally on the verge of death by alcohol poisoning, who ran around mumbling with his eyes closed, banging into those next to him and pretending to bang those in front of him, if you catch my meaning. But we just shoved him out of the way as he was far from being capable of violence, and continued to enjoy the show. And the setlist was incredibly spectacular.

1.) Baying of the Hounds
2.) When
3.) Bleak
4.) Deliverance
5.) In My Time of Need
6.) The Grand Conjuration
7.) The Face of Melinda
8.) Blackwater Park
9.) Demon of the Fall

I may be missing a song, but since nearly every one of these is over 10 minutes I don't think I missed it. Excellent song choice, and a thoroughly excellent show. My God. The greatness was tangible tonight. I never understood just how heavy Opeth were until now. They're friggin' great. Mikael was funny as always and Peter Lindgren is one of the most graceful figures ever to hold a guitar. They are just awesome in their ability to captivate an audience: they don't rely on theatrics at all.

Greatness. Shattered_Future, you are kicking yourself for missing this show. And so is everyone that wasn't there. :)

EDIT: And BTW, all of the Ghost Reveries songs just EXPLODED live. Incredible. All of these songs were perfectly executed by the band and in rare instances were superior to the album versions. And the new drummer they have is a BEAST. I say keep him.

BlindWriting
11-03-2005, 09:54 PM
Sounds amazing.

So what's the story with Lopez? What happened to him, and why is Gene Hoglan taking on the touring duties?

Darkness
11-03-2005, 09:55 PM
Gah.. blast you Opeth... come back to Edmonton... :upset:


We have mayple syrup!

/realises only Scruples will get that

Cain
11-03-2005, 09:56 PM
Sounds amazing.

So what's the story with Lopez? What happened to him, and why is Gene Hoglan taking on the touring duties?

Lopez is suffering from a blood illness he's had since he was a kid.

BlindWriting
11-03-2005, 09:57 PM
Crap. I love his style, very unique for a death metal band. Hope he recovers and returns soon.

Darkness
11-03-2005, 09:58 PM
Some are saying something about a coke addiction..

Hells Bells
11-03-2005, 11:18 PM
EDIT: And BTW, all of the Ghost Reveries songs just EXPLODED live. Incredible. All of these songs were perfectly executed by the band and in rare instances were superior to the album versions.

Glad you enjoyed the show Cain, they are wicked live :D
All of you who have been bashing GR songs, wait until you see them live before you judge.

And the new drummer they have is a BEAST. I say keep him.

Noooooo! That would mean getting rid of Martin Lopez for good :(
Gene's a great drummer (all of Death's drummers were :p) but he should stick with SYL, I want to see Lopez back.

ATC
11-03-2005, 11:22 PM
Isn't it another Martin from Bloodbath (I think) and not Gene thats touring with Opeth?

Hells Bells
11-03-2005, 11:32 PM
/checks news on Roadrunner again....

You're right, Gene just filled in for SOTU, Martin Axenrot's doing the GR tour.

ElectricalStorm
11-03-2005, 11:32 PM
yeah its Martin Axenrott from Bloodbath. Gene covered the sounds of the underground tour.

Cain
11-04-2005, 12:25 AM
Isn't it another Martin from Bloodbath (I think) and not Gene thats touring with Opeth?

Yup.

Cardboard Headgear
11-04-2005, 01:58 AM
Cain, you guys didn't get The Moor? We didn't get Face of Melinda, so I guess they switched those two around.

dUSK
11-04-2005, 08:51 AM
"If music were a woman, I'd be desperate to fuck her." - Mikael Åkerfeldt

I just saw this quote on another forum and it prompted me to come here. You guys are so freaking lucky to be seeing Opeth at the moment.

I assume "When" is a track from My Arms, Your Hearse? Because I've never heard of it.

Shred Danson
11-04-2005, 08:57 AM
1.) Baying of the Hounds
2.) When
3.) Bleak
4.) Deliverance
5.) In My Time of Need
6.) The Grand Conjuration
7.) The Face of Melinda
8.) Blackwater Park
9.) Demon of the Fall

Excellent set list! God I wish I could see them again...all they played at SOTU was:

1. The Drapery Falls
2. To Rid The Disease
3. The Grand Conjuration
4. Demon of The Fall

Still a good set, filled with great songs (3 of them are favorites of mine)...but I just wish they had a longer set...

Deth
11-04-2005, 09:00 AM
Yeah, it's one of the best songs off the album.

Axenrot is such a metal name.

EDIT: lol, check this out: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=43803

I'm downloading the video now.

ArcLite
11-04-2005, 09:06 AM
5 days until I go see them and the anticipation is just killing me. I may spontaneously combust when they play Bleak.

Special Brew
11-04-2005, 09:13 AM
Yeah, it's one of the best songs off the album.

Axenrot is such a metal name.

EDIT: lol, check this out: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=43803

I'm downloading the video now.
/downloads

Deth
11-04-2005, 09:15 AM
It's really funny. Especially the King Diamond part.

Special Brew
11-04-2005, 09:20 AM
My Quicktime is saying I am missing softaware needed to view the clip, and that it can't find the 'ware on the Quicktime server. Wtf?! :mad:

Deth
11-04-2005, 09:21 AM
*slaps forehead*

I have no idea, it worked fine for me.

Hells Bells
11-04-2005, 09:53 AM
Yeah, it's one of the best songs off the album.

Axenrot is such a metal name.

EDIT: lol, check this out: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=43803

I'm downloading the video now.

Good times :lol:
/downloads video
Grrr...it isn't working. It looks like you can only play it with Quicktime too.

Deth
11-04-2005, 11:43 AM
Why in the hell don't you have Quicktime?