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Killtacular
10-13-2005, 10:27 PM
the cd is in my car. i know for a fact song number 5 whatever it is called. he sounds like him for sure. maybe im wrong. i know the name sucks. i used to like soad they are **** now, i just havent changed my name. i wish mikeal used more harsh vocals in this album.

It'd help if you told us the name of the album.

soadrulez
10-13-2005, 11:25 PM
im talking about ghost rheveries. i meant that the cd is in my car and i don't know the name of the songs by heart. but track number 5 mikeal kind of sounds like labrie.

soadrulez
10-13-2005, 11:28 PM
no deliverance was brilliant. as is every opeth album. gr is good but could be way much better, i think they took away a lot traditional opeth sounds that make them opeth. i do agree with others here when they mention them signing with roadrunner did have a lot to do with how this album sounded.

I'm Charming
10-14-2005, 12:08 AM
I hate roadrunner. I think king dimond is on there and thats about it thats good. Slipknot is decent. CoF is okay.

Cardboard Headgear
10-14-2005, 02:35 AM
i do agree with others here when they mention them signing with roadrunner did have a lot to do with how this album sounded.
Do people just ignore the fact that the album was written before Opeth had even chosen a new label?

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 07:51 AM
I roadrunner. I think king dimond is on there and thats about it thats good. Slipknot is decent. CoF is okay.
A lot of people dislike CoF, but I like most of their earlier work and some of their recent. Slipknot I just can't listen to.

i am the robots
10-14-2005, 07:54 AM
A lot of people dislike CoF, but I like most of their earlier work and some of their recent. Slipknot I just can't listen to.

I agree that Cradle's old work was good, but I really cannot stand any of their new stuff. As for Slipknot, they have some pretty solid songs, a few decent ones as well, but the majority of their stuff is pretty craptastic gimmicky bull shit.

The Flabbit Rides High
10-14-2005, 08:04 AM
Do people just ignore the fact that the album was written before Opeth had even chosen a new label?

I agree, its starting to sound like a broken record in here. :evil:

TMA
10-14-2005, 11:43 AM
I went a saw Opeth recently, and there's this story I just have to tell you guys.
So, I went to that show with a friend of mine who loves Opeth more than anything. So, on our way over to the show, he stopped by his family's video store (they own it and all, and it's a few blocks away from the venue) to grab some money for dinner. Now, they have this new girl working there. And while we were at the store she had this big sh*t eating grin on her face and said "So, you know they came in here?", which we knew was just total bullsh*t. There's no reason in hell for a big Swedish Death Metal band to come into this small time video rental store to get some videos for the one night that they're gonne be here.
Well guy, guess what? The bitch wasn't lying. They also sell videos and they came in and bought a used copy of Sin City.:lol: And when they also saw that the store had copy of their DVD that they put out (Laminations), they decided to sign the DVD booklett for them.
:D

i am the robots
10-14-2005, 11:44 AM
That is freaking awesome, I wish I could meet them :upset:.

whatduffhuck7
10-14-2005, 12:47 PM
id buy that dvd instantly, you could keep it or sell is on ebay for big $

Det_Nosnip
10-14-2005, 12:55 PM
Err....I met them at SOTU, if that counts....

No Lopez, though. :( The guitarist/vocalist of my band also met the whole band the last time they were here in Austin, lucky bastard....:upset:

Jude
10-14-2005, 01:49 PM
Do people just ignore the fact that the album was written before Opeth had even chosen a new label?
Yes, quite often.

Cain
10-14-2005, 02:07 PM
Do people just ignore the fact that the album was written before Opeth had even chosen a new label?

Sadly, yes. I've heard quite enough of this idiotic blame game. It's really quite sad.

spacemanjack
10-14-2005, 02:15 PM
First, re: GR.......of course its a great album. Not Still Life or BW, the songwriting is just not up to that level. But on the other hand I'd say the addition of keys has let them get some very mean sounds, opened up some new ground. And I'd say that in general, they're melding the hellish and the serene much better than they used to, weaving in and out more smoothly.

NOW, saw them last night, first time, absolutely killer. Set:

Baying of the Hounds
When
Bleak
In My Time of Need
The Grand Conjuration
The Moor
Deliverance
Blackwater Park
ENCORE: Demon of the Fall

Nobody is tighter. Helluva performance.

spacemanjack
10-14-2005, 02:18 PM
The drummer they're playing with is a titan, and clearly he's doing a masterful job dealing with Martin's complex sh*t......but boy I would have loved to see the real thing. This new guy pounds, where Lopez plays with much more subtlety.

Have seen much about Martin being sick, but one interview Mikael said he was depressed. What is the real deal here?

ATC
10-14-2005, 04:48 PM
Yet another reminder.
Anyone in Vancouver can head down to Scrape Records (17 west broadway) to meet Opeth at 7 pm for a pre-concert CD (among other things) signing.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 06:21 PM
I just ordered the book Sunbird (1972) by author Wilbur Smith. David Isberg took the name, Opet from this book, later changing the name to Opeth to form the band. I gotta read this book, it looks really good. In this book, Opet is the city of the Moon.

Scoot
10-14-2005, 06:26 PM
Yet another reminder.
Anyone in Vancouver can head down to Scrape Records (17 west broadway) to meet Opeth at 7 pm for a pre-concert CD (among other things) signing.

Going down there :)

ATC
10-14-2005, 06:42 PM
Going down there :)

Great. See you there. Describe yourself so I know. We should all get together, see Opeth and make a thread about it in the morning.

Deth
10-14-2005, 06:47 PM
First, re: GR.......of course its a great album. Not Still Life or BW, the songwriting is just not up to that level. But on the other hand I'd say the addition of keys has let them get some very mean sounds, opened up some new ground. And I'd say that in general, they're melding the hellish and the serene much better than they used to, weaving in and out more smoothly.

NOW, saw them last night, first time, absolutely killer. Set:

Baying of the Hounds
When
Bleak
In My Time of Need
The Grand Conjuration
The Moor
Deliverance
Blackwater Park
ENCORE: Demon of the Fall

Nobody is tighter. Helluva performance.

Replace TGC with Ghost Of Perdition and you pretty much have my perfect setlist. Holy crap.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 06:49 PM
Replace TGC with Ghost Of Perdition and you pretty much have my perfect setlist. Holy crap.


Yeah, that is a badass setlist, (with Ghost Of Perdition). I would of loved to see that. :upset:

Deth
10-14-2005, 06:52 PM
If I could see Bleak live, :eek:.

Killtacular
10-14-2005, 06:52 PM
No Face of Melinda = No perfect

Deth
10-14-2005, 06:55 PM
No Face of Melinda = No perfect
I would take The Moor over Face Of Melinda myself.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 06:57 PM
If I could see Bleak live, :eek:.


I saw them once, and they didn't play Bleak. I wanted them to so friggen bad! I can't get bored of that song, I've tried deliberately. :p
They did play Face Of Melinda though, and they sounded almost exactly like the song on the album, it was really cool. They played the ending leads for about 10 times, then busted out into Demon Of The Fall.

:'( Memories...

Darkness
10-14-2005, 07:03 PM
I would take The Moor over Face Of Melinda myself.
I would take both of those over Bleak.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 07:04 PM
I would take both of those over Bleak.


Don't like Bleak that much?

Deth
10-14-2005, 07:05 PM
I saw them once, and they didn't play Bleak. I wanted them to so friggen bad! I can't get bored of that song, I've tried deliberately. :p
They did play Face Of Melinda though, and they sounded almost exactly like the song on the album, it was really cool. They played the ending leads for about 10 times, then busted out into Demon Of The Fall.

:'( Memories...
Why on Earth would you try?

Darkness
10-14-2005, 07:05 PM
Don't like Bleak that much?
Decent tune, never saw the magic in it that everyone else does though. The Moor and Face Of Melinda happen to be some of my favorites, though.

Killtacular
10-14-2005, 07:08 PM
I would take The Moor over Face Of Melinda myself.

You're a damaged young man.

Darkness
10-14-2005, 07:09 PM
You're a damaged young man.
I've been trying to tell him that for some time. :p :lol:

Flynn
10-14-2005, 07:10 PM
Decent tune, never saw the magic in it that everyone else does though. The Moor and Face Of Melinda happen to be some of my favorites, though.


I never got into Bleak either until I heard it during a tornado...holy **** it's so much better! I'll never forget that day :amaze: It's now one of my top 5 favorite songs ever.
Yeah, The Moor is tight. They didn't play that song at the concert either, which sucked. The song I really really would of loved to see them play live, was Black Rose Immortal. I got like 15 people to chant it towards the end of the concert, they still didn't play itthough :angry:

Darkness
10-14-2005, 07:11 PM
I never got into Bleak either until I heard it during a tornado...holy **** it's so much better! I'll never forget that day :amaze: It's now one of my top 5 favorite songs ever.
Yeah, The Moor is tight. They didn't play that song at the concert either, which sucked. The song I really really would of loved to see them play live, was Black Rose Immortal. I got like 15 people to chant it towards the end of the concert, they still didn't play itthough :angry:
I'd kill to see "The Moor" "Blackwater Park" and "Face of Melinda" live.

No really, I'd just starting killing people if thats what got me a ticket. :D

Deth
10-14-2005, 07:13 PM
I'd kill to see "The Moor" "Blackwater Park" and "Face of Melinda" live.

No really, I'd just starting killing people if thats what got me a ticket. :D
It seems like BWP is a staple this tour, so that's a good thing for me.

Killtacular
10-14-2005, 07:15 PM
Blackwater Park is teh shit.

It's a good thing.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 07:15 PM
I'd kill to see "The Moor" "Blackwater Park" and "Face of Melinda" live.

No really, I'd just starting killing people if thats what got me a ticket. :D


hahahah you sound like my friend who I went with. He doesn't like Opeth that much, but he went berzerk in the pit. No one could touch him, and he doesn't even weigh over 150 lbs. He was throwing people and kicking spitting you name it...then he had the circle. After the concert, he asked what song he snapped to. It was Blackwater Park.

Darkness
10-14-2005, 07:15 PM
It seems like BWP is a staple this tour, so that's a good thing for me.
Yeah, thats awesome. :thumb:

Deth
10-14-2005, 07:19 PM
I'm listening to BWP (the song) right now :cool:.

I'm going to try and avoid the pit during the concert, I only weigh 130 pounds.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 07:21 PM
I'm listening to BWP (the song) right now :cool:.

I'm going to try and avoid the pit during the concert, I only weigh 130 pounds.


:lol: I usually love moshing, but I didn't once during the concert. I was so fixated on them. The same thought kept streaming through my mind ''I can't believe I'm watching Opeth''

Darkness
10-14-2005, 08:56 PM
:lol: I usually love moshing, but I didn't once during the concert. I was so fixated on them. The same thought kept streaming through my mind ''I can't believe I'm watching Opeth''
I experienced the same feeling when I saw them... When they played Demon Of The Fall though.. well lets just say, I had to take my glasses off for that one! Mad head banging! :evil: :D

Toaster
10-14-2005, 09:13 PM
Why does everyone love "Bleak" so much?? It's a great song and all, but there are waay better Opeth songs.

They never play it live, to my knowledge. There's too much overdubbing with the guitars.

azbassman
10-14-2005, 09:15 PM
Why does everyone love "Bleak" so much?? It's a great song and all, but there are waay better Opeth songs.

They never play it live, to my knowledge. There's too much overdubbing with the guitars.
Agreed, i like bleak and everything but there are better songs on BWP.

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:18 PM
Why does everyone love "Bleak" so much?? It's a great song and all, but there are waay better Opeth songs.
Now this is a smart poster. :D

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:18 PM
Why does everyone love "Bleak" so much?? It's a great song and all, but there are waay better Opeth songs.

They never play it live, to my knowledge. There's too much overdubbing with the guitars.


That song gives me gooseflesh every listen :D It's the build-up that gets me every time, right at 6:40. Plus the guitars are so eerie. The song as a whole is so powerful. Listen to it during a tornado, you'll love it even more. ;)












''Slight twist, shivering corpse
Ornated with water, fills the cracks
Clasped in my limbs by tradition
This Is All You Need!!!!!''

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:20 PM
The growled parts of the song are rockin, but the rest is weak, IMO.

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:20 PM
That song gives me gooseflesh every listen :D It's the build-up that gets me every time, right at 6:40. Plus the guitars are so eerie. The song as a whole is so powerful. Listen to it during a tornado, you'll love it even more. ;)












''Slight twist, shivering corpse
Ornated with water, fills the cracks
Clasped in my limbs by tradition
This Is All You Need!!!!!''

^^^ I love that line so much.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:21 PM
^^^ I love that line so much.


No doubt! Why do people dislike Bleak? The song is really mesmerizing.

Det_Nosnip
10-14-2005, 09:23 PM
The drummer they're playing with is a titan, and clearly he's doing a masterful job dealing with Martin's complex sh*t......but boy I would have loved to see the real thing. This new guy pounds, where Lopez plays with much more subtlety.

Have seen much about Martin being sick, but one interview Mikael said he was depressed. What is the real deal here?

Argh....that's what I was afraid of. Unfortunately, Lopez was a member of a very special elite of heavy metal drummers who actually know the meaning of the words "dynamics" and "groove." Hopefully they'll shy away from the Dam nation material when I see them in a few weeks, as I'd hate to hear those parts butchered.

The 'real deal' is that Martin has some sort of blood disease that he's had for quite a long time, which is acting up or something. He's expected to be out for the rest of the year (I hope that means until January..?), unfortunately.

Det_Nosnip
10-14-2005, 09:25 PM
No doubt! Why do people dislike Bleak? The song is really mesmerizing.

*shrug* got me. I'd ask how anyone could dislike "Baying of the Hounds" or "Harlequin Forest," but I seem to be alone here in thinking that GR is an amazing album. :(

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:26 PM
Gene is still a really sweet drummer, he nails Martins parts with little difficulty. Maybe he couldn't compose them, but he sure can play them. He won't butcher Damnation, don't worry. He played To Rid the Deisease fine when I saw them.

Toaster
10-14-2005, 09:26 PM
Argh....that's what I was afraid of. Unfortunately, Lopez was a member of a very special elite of heavy metal drummers who actually know the meaning of the words "dynamics" and "groove."



:eek: Did you just make fun of Gene Hoglan? He is the man. I met him actually, after a Strapping Young Lad concert. He's mountainous.

If you've seen the video for "Ghost of Perdition" you'll know what I'm talking about.

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:26 PM
The Grand Conjuration*

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:26 PM
*shrug* got me. I'd ask how anyone could dislike "Baying of the Hounds" or "Harlequin Forest," but I seem to be alone here in thinking that GR is an amazing album. :(
I enjoy "baying of the hounds". I personally wouldn't call it a amazing album, but I would certainly call it a good album.

Toaster
10-14-2005, 09:27 PM
The Grand Conjuration*

Haha I cannot believe I put that.

*hangs head in shame*

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:33 PM
"Mist ripples round your thin white neck
And draws me a line
Cold fingers mark this dying wreck
This moment is mine"


I always get chills when I hear that line.




Post your favorite Opeth lines.

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:34 PM
All of The Moor, all of BWP, lots of By the pain I see in others...

ah screw it, it'll take to long. Mikeal is a great lyricist.

Toaster
10-14-2005, 09:35 PM
I enjoy "baying of the hounds". I personally wouldn't call it a amazing album, but I would certainly call it a good album.

I think the album as a whole is too "light". It doesn't really show the whole of what Opeth can accomplish emotionally. Harlequin Forest is the weakest song IMO. Akerfeldt even said he stole the whole opening sequence off an obscure Swedish song (which I have been totally unable to find).

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:37 PM
I think the album as a whole is too "light". It doesn't really show the whole of what Opeth can accomplish emotionally. Harlequin Forest is the weakest song IMO. Akerfeldt even said he stole the whole opening sequence off an obscure Swedish song (which I have been totally unable to find).
Yeah...well I just hope their next album is an improvement upon this one...

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:38 PM
Hm.. whats gotten into Mikeal? He's always stressed being really unique, always trying to sound different, never ripping anything off... but now its like... really different then that. I bet if the old Mikeal heard us talk about how they use similar rhythms often and that kind of stuff, he'd flip out.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:38 PM
*shrug* got me. I'd ask how anyone could dislike "Baying of the Hounds" or "Harlequin Forest," but I seem to be alone here in thinking that GR is an amazing album. :(


Hey now. I love The Baying Of The hounds, and Reverie/harlequin Forest. It's the album as a whole. I like 3 songs off that album. That's it. I think I let off the wrong impression on my feelings about Ghost Reveries.

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:39 PM
Hm.. whats gotten into Mikeal? He's always stressed being really unique, always trying to sound different, never ripping anything off... but now its like... really different then that. I bet if the old Mikeal heard us talk about how they use similar rhythms often and that kind of stuff, he'd flip out.
A rumor maybe?

Plus most musicians get ideas from other songs all the time, so you can't really blame him if he did it, really.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:40 PM
A rumor maybe?

Plus most musicians get ideas from other songs all the time, so you can't really blame him if he did it, really.


Yeah, that's true. But to sound unique, you have to take what you've learned, and harness that with your own creativeness.

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:40 PM
Then explain the use of similar rhythms and song formulas on the past few records.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:41 PM
Then explain the use of similar rhythms and song formulas on the past few records.


Which records?

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:41 PM
Then explain the use of similar rhythms and song formulas on the past few records.
Well I don't know. All bands sometimes have songs that seem similar to past ones.

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:43 PM
Then explain the use of similar rhythms and song formulas on the past few records.
The past few have probably been my favorite, but some of the songs on D-nation have quite the similar formula, as an example.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:43 PM
Well I don't know. All bands sometimes have songs that seem similar to past ones.


Yes. That's true. But, Opeth doesn't sound like anyone. There's a solo on GR that sounds like I've heard it before, other then that, It's all original to me.

Toaster
10-14-2005, 09:43 PM
One would hope a band like Opeth would keep reinventing itself. A band gets boring once it starts to stagnate. They are a very different band than they were when they released Orchid.. not so much change from Still Life to Ghost Reveries.

Toaster
10-14-2005, 09:44 PM
The past few have probably been my favorite, but some of the songs on D-nation have quite the similar formula, as an example.

Thank you! The amount of undeserved love that album gets really irks me.

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:45 PM
The past few have probably been my favorite, but some of the songs on D-nation have quite the similar formula, as an example.
I didn't really notice that about D-nation. It doesn't matter though, d-nation is a brilliant album.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:45 PM
One would hope a band like Opeth would keep reinventing itself. A band gets boring once it starts to stagnate. They are a very different band than they were when they released Orchid.. not so much change from Still Life to Ghost Reveries.


Orchid is so legendary and ahead of it's time. The record company couldn't decide what genre it was. :lol:

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:46 PM
Thank you! The amount of undeserved love that album gets really irks me.
Hey don't get me wrong, I really enjoy that album. But some of the songs are pretty formuletic, and are all fairly basic riff wise.

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:46 PM
Orchid is so legendary and ahead of it's time. The record company couldn't decide what genre it was. :lol:
Seven mile stones....


\m/

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:47 PM
Seven mile stones....


\m/


omg I love that song




''in mist enrobed the twilight, she was standing...''

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:48 PM
Now were back to the stuff Cain was talking about. "OMG I LOVE THAT SONG" for the 4000th time. :p

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:49 PM
D-nation is definetly one of the best mellow albums ever made. Stop the hate.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:49 PM
Now were back to the stuff Cain was talking about. "OMG I LOVE THAT SONG" for the 4000th time. :p


Don't be negative. :) It's a great song.

Toaster
10-14-2005, 09:51 PM
D-nation is definetly one of the best mellow albums ever made. Stop the hate.

:( I wish I could love it like everyone else. It just seems so standard, like very little effort went into it. Most of the songs don't take any unexpected turns, none of the instrumentation is very complex (IMO), and Mikael's vocals are off in some places.

I actually liked Deliverance way better.

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:53 PM
Theres some unexpected turns, like Closure for example. I really enjoy the D&D set, and I find them both underrated in Opeth land. :)

And no, Mikeals voice is perfect on that album. This is fact. :D :lol:

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:53 PM
:( I wish I could love it like everyone else. It just seems so standard, like very little effort went into it. Most of the songs don't take any unexpected turns, none of the instrumentation is very complex (IMO), and Mikael's vocals are off in some places.

I actually liked Deliverance way better.
Complexity does not equal quality. Plus mellow songs can really take any drastic turns by thier nature really, although there were some. Where do you think his voice was off?

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:54 PM
:( I wish I could love it like everyone else. It just seems so standard, like very little effort went into it. Most of the songs don't take any unexpected turns, none of the instrumentation is very complex (IMO), and Mikael's vocals are off in some places.

I actually liked Deliverance way better.


The true musicians have all stated what they think. I happen to like Deliverance more also. But that's me.

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:55 PM
I really dislike "wreath" as an opener to the album. It just seems to go on and on to no point.

Toaster
10-14-2005, 09:56 PM
The intro to Closure is a bit off-key (this sounds like it may be intentional, though), during the chorus parts of Hope Leaves he is undeniably off, and Death Whispered a Lullaby has some very odd note choices I would have changed ("where the lost souls hide" sounds like it should have a flat-second rather than a major).

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:56 PM
Wreath is brilliant metal madness at it's finiest. I really love that track. The dragging on is something I love about it.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 09:57 PM
Wreath is brilliant metal madness at it's finiest. I really love that track. The dragging on is something I love about it.


Hell yeah dude, my band covers that song.

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 09:58 PM
The intro to Closure is a bit off-key (this sounds like it may be intentional, though), during the chorus parts of Hope Leaves he is undeniably off, and Death Whispered a Lullaby has some very odd note choices I would have changed ("where the lost souls hide" sounds like it should have a flat-second rather than a major).
Personaly, I think death whispered a lulliby is the best song on the album. :p

Windowpane is just....wow.

Toaster
10-14-2005, 09:58 PM
The end of Master's Apprentices.. the vocals sound so tortured, its one of Opeth's finest moments IMO.

That's one thing I love about Deliverance, it really sounds like Mikael is struggling to rasp every note.

Darkness
10-14-2005, 09:59 PM
Yeah Flynn, you should get us a recording of that!

And Hope Leaves is incredibly awesome... I think Death Whispered is my least favorite.

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 10:00 PM
Yeah Flynn, you should get us a recording of that!

And Hope Leaves is incredibly awesome... I think Death Whispered is my least favorite.
But But But.....it's beautiful. :upset:

Toaster
10-14-2005, 10:00 PM
Personaly, I think death whispered a lulliby is the best song on the album. :p

Windowpane is just....wow.

Agreed, Windowpane is awesome.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 10:01 PM
The end of Master's Apprentices.. the vocals sound so tortured, its one of Opeth's finest moments IMO.

That's one thing I love about Deliverance, it really sounds like Mikael is struggling to rasp every note.


Do this, record the ending of ''By The Pain I See In Others'' and play it backwards. It's the chorus of ''The Master's Apprentices'' it sounds so fucking badass!

Toaster
10-14-2005, 10:04 PM
Do this, record the ending of ''By The Pain I See In Others'' and play it backwards. It's the chorus of ''The Master's Apprentices'' it sounds so fucking badass!

The part after the long pause? I've always wondered what that was.. that's truly cool.


Backwards stuff really scares me for some reason.

RouteOne
10-14-2005, 10:06 PM
Haha. I was listening to Master's apprentice while falling asleep, and I was in one of those half-awake state of minds, and the part comes up around 7:45 and scared the crap out of me because it goes from nice mellow tones to shitting your pants growls. :lol:

Flynn
10-14-2005, 10:12 PM
The part after the long pause? I've always wondered what that was.. that's truly cool.


Backwards stuff really scares me for some reason.


Dude try it! It's so cool. I've always wondered what it was too, it's from The Master's Apprentices.

''Soothing trance
Colours fade
And disappear
Ethereal light
Showing me what I can do without''

''Fading away
And leaving
Long for sleep
Closer now
Lead the way into death''

God, I love Deliverance :D

Darkness
10-14-2005, 10:32 PM
I love the part when in the song when he goes "Walk with me... wait to see your spirit free..." *all out heavy riffing*. When I saw that live... I nearly died... in a good way! :D

lost_profits
10-14-2005, 10:43 PM
bleak would be my favourite on BWP. It's up there with When, April Ethereal and The Moor for me.

Flynn
10-14-2005, 10:50 PM
bleak would be my favourite on BWP. It's up there with When, April Ethereal and The Moor for me.


I love everything about April Ethereal. Especially the end, when it fades into When. :evil:

bball_1523
10-15-2005, 10:47 AM
I'm sure I asked this a couple times already, but haven't gotten any responses, but is anyone going to see Opeth in Los Angeles/Hollywood tomorrow?

If so, do any of you wanna meet up or something? I'll be there around 7-8 pm, look for a short and skinny guy with a blue polo shirt.

Flynn
10-15-2005, 03:22 PM
I love the part when in the song when he goes "Walk with me... wait to see your spirit free..." *all out heavy riffing*. When I saw that live... I nearly died... in a good way! :D


Yeah they played it perfect when I saw them. Everyone went bezerk on double bass cue, it was magical.

azbassman
10-15-2005, 04:00 PM
Opeth rearranged some thing and toke the Tempe show out...which mean i dont get to see them. I couldnt go on the Sound of The Underground tour, and now i can go to this.:upset:

Flynn
10-15-2005, 04:27 PM
Opeth rearranged some thing and toke the Tempe show out...which mean i dont get to see them. I couldnt go on the Sound of The Underground tour, and now i can go to this.:upset:


Ouch dude, that sucks.

azbassman
10-15-2005, 04:28 PM
Ouch dude, that sucks.
yeah i know...this would have been the first time i would have seen them live, was looking forward to it

Flynn
10-15-2005, 04:31 PM
yeah i know...this would have been the first time i would have seen them live, was looking forward to it


I'm sorry man, I don't know what to tell ya. I'd be so angry right now...

azbassman
10-15-2005, 05:01 PM
trust me i am

wrathchild88
10-15-2005, 05:42 PM
has anyone caught them on their latest tour?

do they play mostly new stuff or do they play stuff from blackwater park and before?

Darkness
10-15-2005, 06:03 PM
A bit of everything.

Deth
10-15-2005, 06:54 PM
I love everything about April Ethereal. Especially the end, when it fades into When. :evil:
The two finest songs of MAYH. Worth the price of the album alone.

Darkness
10-15-2005, 07:13 PM
What about Demon Of the Fall? :eek:

Shattered_Future
10-15-2005, 07:18 PM
I'm starting to like that song a bit more now...I used to hate it with a passion.

FINALLY listened to all of Ghost Reveries, though I had trouble paying attention at parts...kept spacing in and out at like minute intervals. :(

I know this sounds cliche, but I love The Grand Conjuration...the emotion Akefeldt conveys with his voice is unsurpassed.

Darkness
10-15-2005, 07:19 PM
I'm starting to like that song a bit more now...I used to hate it with a passion.
Whoa... Demon of the fall? :eek:

Whats wrong with this thread today... :confused:

Shadows
10-15-2005, 07:19 PM
I'm starting to like that song a bit more now...I used to hate it with a passion.

FINALLY listened to all of Ghost Reveries, though I had trouble paying attention at parts...kept spacing in and out at like minute intervals. :(

I know this sounds cliche, but I love The Grand Conjuration...the emotion Akefeldt conveys with his voice is unsurpassed.
Me too. I love Ghost Reveries, and it escapes me as to why some Opeth fans hate it inensely.

Demon of the Fall is great though...:confused:

Shattered_Future
10-15-2005, 07:21 PM
I dunno, something about the way the song is styled really put me off from it for a while...

It's growing on me now though. I'm at the "hey, this isn't so bad" stage at the moment.

Course, Opeth will go completely downhill for me on Nov. 3rd. :upset: :upset: :upset:

Shadows
10-15-2005, 07:22 PM
What's Nov.3?

Darkness
10-15-2005, 07:23 PM
I guess you just have to see the song live, like I did. :D

Those vocals are the scariest thing ever...

Deth
10-15-2005, 07:23 PM
What about Demon Of the Fall? :eek:
Don't get me wrong, I love Demon with all my heart, but the epicness of April Ethereal and When just blow me away every time. It's a shame that it goes downhill slightly with Madrigal and The Amen Corner.

Shattered_Future
10-15-2005, 07:26 PM
What's Nov.3?

The only day Opeth, Nevermore, and Into Eternity (3 of the greatest bands I've ever heard) are coming close (40 minutes away or so) to me, which SOMEBODY made the concert 18+ only.

I'll never get to see Opeth live...:upset:

Darkness
10-15-2005, 07:28 PM
The only day Opeth, Nevermore, and Into Eternity (3 of the greatest bands I've ever heard) are coming close (40 minutes away or so) to me, which SOMEBODY made the concert 18+ only.

I'll never get to see Opeth live...:upset:
Wow.. that sucks incredibly. I'll most likely never see them again, to.

Shadows
10-15-2005, 07:29 PM
Not 18 yet? I'm sorry, my friend. Either try to sneak in or get someone you know to let you in. You cannot miss that show.

Slapping Penguin
10-15-2005, 07:33 PM
Well Demon of the Fall bloody rocks. Remember my old quote and avatar?

Shattered_Future
10-15-2005, 07:33 PM
The stupid thing is, none of the other band shows at the venue are 18+...only Opeth.

I swear, the world is racist against me. :evil:

Shadows
10-15-2005, 07:34 PM
18+ shows are stupid. All they're doing is limiting their ticket sales. I don't see what the advantage is of keeping out people under 18, unless they freely pass out pornography or something.

Darkness
10-15-2005, 07:34 PM
Probably because Mikeal often swears at the shows. :p

He called some guy a mother f-cker when I saw them... good times.. :D

Shadows
10-15-2005, 07:35 PM
Interesting. I wouldn't have guessed it based on his music.

Darkness
10-15-2005, 07:40 PM
Just watch Lamentations, he says fuck like 5 times.

whatduffhuck7
10-15-2005, 07:40 PM
but imagine if you were over 18 how much you would agree with this. having the little kids who annoy the hell out of you at the shows gets old. im 17 so im not exacly for it, but i can see how it would be a benifit

Slapping Penguin
10-15-2005, 07:43 PM
Nahhh I feel sorry for you Shattered. At least though you got the illusion you could have gone. Its never happening in my area unless I take a 4 hour drive every 4 years when Opeth might come to Sydeny. 18+ are very stupid. Why don't they just take the time and lience it for all ages. Shadows Fall was 18+ in my town and had to cancel because not enough people wanted to go. Why, because you can't in this town make 18+ gig. If they had got it all ages then TONS of people woul dhave gone but yeah thats the story.

See its odd Demon of the Fall is one of my all time favorite Opeth songs. Why, well I just loved it sheer evil sounding riffs and pure agression. It not there most beautiful song or most techniqual, but I love just the powerful death metal in it which is a different sort death metal to other DM bands. Because as we all know Opeth can always do something differently.

but imagine if you were over 18 how much you would agree with this. having the little kids who annoy the hell out of you at the shows gets old. im 17 so im not exacly for it, but i can see how it would be a benifit

yeah I can see that. Mabye over 15 gigs?

Shadows
10-15-2005, 07:45 PM
Shadows Fall was 18+ in my town and had to cancel because not enough people wanted to go. Why, because you can't in this town make 18+ gig. If they had got it all ages then TONS of people woul dhave gone but yeah thats the story.
:eek: Your town officially SUCKS.

If that had happened to me I wouldv'e gone on a disgusting, murderous rampage. I would've killed mercilessly until national guards came and took me away in a straight jacket.

Slapping Penguin
10-15-2005, 08:06 PM
Hahahah yes you put it right. The only probelm is we don't have national guard. Yes I was very pissed off. They were the band that got to think about dewlling in extreme metal. (yes yes I know its Shadows Fall but that growled vocals etc. You know what I mean) This town is very sucky for gigs. And the probelm is, they willl never come again :(

Flynn
10-15-2005, 08:08 PM
The only day Opeth, Nevermore, and Into Eternity (3 of the greatest bands I've ever heard) are coming close (40 minutes away or so) to me, which SOMEBODY made the concert 18+ only.

I'll never get to see Opeth live...:upset:


18+ only? That's the stupidest shlt I've ever heard. There's more obscene crap on tv.

Shadows
10-15-2005, 08:10 PM
Hahahah yes you put it right. The only probelm is we don't have national guard. Yes I was very pissed off. They were the band that got to think about dewlling in extreme metal. (yes yes I know its Shadows Fall but that growled vocals etc. You know what I mean) This town is very sucky for gigs. And the probelm is, they willl never come again :(
Oh man, I'm sorry. I live in a small, worthless town, and Shadows Fall was cool enough to come here twice for me to see them. It was amazing.

I'm a pretty big Shadows Fall fan, for those who couldn't tell. :rolleyes:

Det_Nosnip
10-15-2005, 08:27 PM
DEMOOOON.......DEMON OF THE FAAALLLLLLLL!!!! :evil:

Does anyone else think that Mikael sounds even more evil growling that song live, despite the fact that he's competing with a vocal effect?

Flynn
10-15-2005, 08:33 PM
DEMOOOON.......DEMON OF THE FAAALLLLLLLL!!!! :evil:

Does anyone else think that Mikael sounds even more evil growling that song live, despite the fact that he's competing with a vocal effect?



Oh hell yeah! He sounded so evil when they played it. I was in shock. I don't know how he screams like that, takes talent.

Darkness
10-15-2005, 08:51 PM
Mikeals growls sound evilier on all songs live.

Flynn
10-15-2005, 08:55 PM
Mikeals growls sound evilier on all songs live.


Yeah they do. Nothing and no one can capture that rawness and put it on a file.

Toaster
10-15-2005, 09:23 PM
I'm a pretty big Shadows Fall fan, for those who couldn't tell. :rolleyes:

I'm suprised. I find Shadows Fall to be a pretty generic band most of the time. I used to be in love with them, but once I heard all the other bands who sounds similar to SF, I sort of grew bored (not to sound stuck up :p) with the whole scene. I just don't get what really sticks out about them.

ATC
10-15-2005, 09:25 PM
It might be they made it 18+ since Mikael gets the crowd to say 'Satan' a few times before playing the Grand Conjuration. Apparently, the sound engineer was 'slightly religious' and edited it out of the original version. Eh, I don't know.

They were great live yesterday. I'm disappointed they didn't play The Drapery falls or In the mist she was standing but it was still a great show. Mikael did a bunch of 'experiments' like teaching people to headbang in 4/4 which was hilarious. I got my Nevermore Tshirt and BWP CD signed by the band. Mikael also changed his name to Steve Gutenberg and I have spent all day trying to teach myself Martin's bass. Oh, and Fireball Ministry were decent and I quite liked them though I pretty much hated the S.T.R.E.E.T.S.

Six Foot Revolver
10-15-2005, 09:27 PM
I'm suprised. I find Shadows Fall to be a pretty generic band most of the time. I used to be in love with them, but once I heard all the other bands who sounds similar to SF, I sort of grew bored (not to sound stuck up :p) with the whole scene. I just don't get what really sticks out about them.
I have got to agree with this. They are a pretty good band from what I have heard but I would never listen to them regularly because they just sound like a lot of other bands and don't seem to have anything special about them.

lost_profits
10-15-2005, 09:40 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love Demon with all my heart, but the epicness of April Ethereal and When just blow me away every time. It's a shame that it goes downhill slightly with Madrigal and The Amen Corner.

Yeah, it seems Opeth's achilles heel is songs that appear in the middle of the respective albums...

The Amen Corner from MAYH (still a magnificent song)
Dirge for november from BWP
Harlequin Forest from GR (I maintain this is one of Opeth's weakest songs)

On another note, with Per Wiberg now in the band, would Opeth play the piano segment of The Leper Affinity live? Who's seen them play that song live?

Killtacular
10-15-2005, 09:58 PM
I wanna see Opeth live, too.

:upset:

Darkness
10-15-2005, 09:59 PM
I wanna see Opeth live, too.

:upset:
Gahahaha! You fail. :D

RouteOne
10-15-2005, 10:00 PM
I was going to see them...but tickets are sold out.

Shadows
10-15-2005, 10:01 PM
I'm suprised. I find Shadows Fall to be a pretty generic band most of the time. I used to be in love with them, but once I heard all the other bands who sounds similar to SF, I sort of grew bored (not to sound stuck up :p) with the whole scene. I just don't get what really sticks out about them.
Personal taste I guess. Most people say they sound similar to a lot of other bands, but I don't hear it. They sound really unique to me, I think their riffing style really stands out.

Anyway, I was playing Beneath the Mire earlier and I noticed how bluesy Mike's style is. It's not super-tech, but it's fun to play and has a great feel to it.

Toaster
10-15-2005, 10:02 PM
They are great live.. but the few times I have seen them, Lopez has been a bit sketchy. The intro to Deliverance always gets him foot-tied for some reason. Maybe I'm just unlucky, or have bad hearing.

Darkness
10-15-2005, 10:05 PM
They are great live.. but the few times I have seen them, Lopez has been a bit sketchy. The intro to Deliverance always gets him foot-tied for some reason. Maybe I'm just unlucky, or have bad hearing.
Then see them with Gene. The mans a tank.

Killtacular
10-15-2005, 10:08 PM
Gahahaha! You fail. :D

But.. I wanna be a winner.

heavy metal kid
10-15-2005, 10:08 PM
18+ shows are stupid. All they're doing is limiting their ticket sales. I don't see what the advantage is of keeping out people under 18, unless they freely pass out animal photographsography or something.

I don't know what's the point of 18+ shows, i went to all ages concert(Metallica) and it was boobs flying around and lots of swearing.Sometimes the town has his laws against the shows or something.

Well i haven't see Opeth live, but when i have the change i would be there.

Shattered_Future
10-15-2005, 10:09 PM
Odd thing is though, me and my friends got into Gigantour fine, and we were like 14-15. And they had bands like Fear Factory and Dry Kill Logic, who's whole schtick was cursing every third word.

Portney cursed a few times as well...

It's not fair. :upset:

And then, the other concert i want to see in February (Nile, Decapitated, Hypocrisy, others) is all ages. :confused:

Weird. As. Hell.

Thanks alot Opeth, for ruining a few weeks of my life. :mad:

Or do I blame it on the concert hall...

Darkness
10-15-2005, 10:10 PM
But.. I wanna be a winner.
The only way that will happen is if you go review the death metal songs... :p

Shattered_Future
10-15-2005, 10:10 PM
The only way that will happen is if you go review the death metal songs... :p

Yes...vote ShatteredFuture/Paranoid923/ShadowsFallen's song Grrrawwg! as the best! :D

Darkness
10-15-2005, 10:11 PM
Yes...vote ShatteredFuture/Paranoid923/ShadowsFallen's song Grrrawwg! as the best! :D
Only if you want to lie though.



...:lol:

Toaster
10-15-2005, 10:11 PM
Thanks alot Opeth, for ruining a few weeks of my life. :mad:

Or do I blame it on the concert hall...

I am almost sure the concert hall dictates these sort of things. It could have something to do with distribution of alchohol, if there is no designated area for the sale of alchohol I don't think people under the legal age can enter.

heavy metal kid
10-15-2005, 10:14 PM
I am almost sure the concert hall dictates these sort of things. It could have something to do with distribution of alchohol, if there is no designated area for the sale of alchohol I don't think people under the legal age can enter.

It's usually the town or the band.
I went to see Malevolent Creation, Origin, Animosity and others in a bar, i'm 16 and there was alcohol and beer, funny thing is if i asked a drink they would sell it to me....How i love Tijuana.

Killtacular
10-15-2005, 10:17 PM
The only way that will happen is if you go review the death metal songs... :p
But.. but that takes effort.

</lazy>

Darkness
10-15-2005, 10:18 PM
But.. but that takes effort.

</lazy>
Then you will always be, a failure. :thumb:

Shadows
10-15-2005, 10:19 PM
Only if you want to lie though.



...:lol:
...:mad:

I should go on a chainsaw rampage with a rusty knife at my side.

All for you.

Darkness
10-15-2005, 10:23 PM
...:mad:

I should go on a chainsaw rampage with a rusty knife at my side.

All for you.
You know it was a joke, right?

Cain
10-15-2005, 10:28 PM
I am almost sure the concert hall dictates these sort of things. It could have something to do with distribution of alchohol, if there is no designated area for the sale of alchohol I don't think people under the legal age can enter.

I'm pretty sure that's it. Even with designated alcohol areas, underage kids aren't allowed without guardians (although Webster Hall is an exception, being 18+, leading me to assume that it's nothing to do with alcohol). The Bitter End in NYC is a 21+ club--the only reason I was allowed in last year was because I was one of the performers. Same thing with the Living Room. The NYC hall where Opeth is playing, Webster Hall, is likely a place with a bar in back and a small dining promenade, and a hall floor for the bands. Generally speaking, the clientele of such establishments wouldn't care for little kids running around (and 15-16 is damn little to people 18+) and that's likely why the age limit.

Slapping Penguin
10-16-2005, 03:33 AM
Oh man, I'm sorry. I live in a small, worthless town, and Shadows Fall was cool enough to come here twice for me to see them. It was amazing.

I'm a pretty big Shadows Fall fan, for those who couldn't tell.

And thats one of the reasons I like you bud :D. You know your metal but you are not like "Shadows Fall is metalcore rubbish" (which they are not) You are easy to get along with :)

With this 18+ desginated area and stuff. I recently went to a concert and people up top where only allowed to drink but they all came down. I was with two two pissed fellas up front and they cracked open a beer and then. "ohhh I don't want this you want it?" looking at me. It shows that nothing really matters with a 18+ and not 18+. I think Shadows Fall was made 18+ because all the gigs in my town are made in the Uni bar. WHich SUCKS. Because no bands come, and when they do its 18+!

Mik sounds so mean in Demon of the Fall. Its so cool.

Shattered your production is really bad. The guitar is so quite. Next time you do a comp, get me to play bass :)

Flynn
10-16-2005, 10:02 AM
They are great live.. but the few times I have seen them, Lopez has been a bit sketchy. The intro to Deliverance always gets him foot-tied for some reason. Maybe I'm just unlucky, or have bad hearing.


He tore it up when I saw them. Sounded more intense then the CD song.

Shattered_Future
10-16-2005, 10:33 AM
I know my production is bad...thats what a $40 iPod mic gets you. :p

We would've done bass, but NOTHING was in time...bass would've just made it harder to mix. Another thing to get screwed up.

Hive
10-16-2005, 10:42 AM
huge Opeth fan here. Somehow missed the fact that they were in Vancouver on the 15th *smacks head*.

Opeth just flat out rules. Its that simple.

Darkness
10-16-2005, 10:43 AM
huge Opeth fan here. Somehow missed the fact that they were in Vancouver on the 15th *smacks head*.

Opeth just flat out rules. Its that simple.
Dude... that sucks!

Flynn
10-16-2005, 01:17 PM
huge Opeth fan here. Somehow missed the fact that they were in Vancouver on the 15th *smacks head*.

Opeth just flat out rules. Its that simple.


I'm sorry you missed the concert, I'd be so pissed...

Shattered_Future
10-16-2005, 01:26 PM
I'm pissed I can't be allowed to go to the concert.

If I realized I could've gone and the date past, there's no telling what would happen.

Shadows
10-16-2005, 01:29 PM
And thats one of the reasons I like you bud :D. You know your metal but you are not like "Shadows Fall is metalcore rubbish" (which they are not) You are easy to get along with :)
Thanks a lot man. :) I love Shadows Fall, and I really get tired of the ongoing fighting over genres. SF is pure metal, and I hate having to deal with people constantly trying to tell me they're generic metalcore (which they're not). Music is music and I happen to like their's.

Mike: That mic cost you $40? :confused: I have a $15 mic for my computer and the sound is so clear it's unbelieveable.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 01:36 PM
I was listening to Orchid this morning, and couldn't help but notice how badass the lyrics are on this album. I know the entire album by heart, both lyrically and guitars, but it just now hit me how intricate these lyrics are. I recommend listening to Orchid tonight, and give me your feedback later on.


















''blinded by a light, my soul it held up high in glory
I engulf the skies, the apostle in triumph
through the eternal flame I travel
as the rain keeps falling...''

Shattered_Future
10-16-2005, 01:45 PM
Yea, but it's more of a voice memo microphone...

I hooked up one of my dad's external mics, and that made it sound like how it was for the comp.

I gotta figure out how to run a mic straight into my computer.

EDIT: Anybody that says Shadows Fall is generic metalcore should be kicked in the chin fat.

Shadows
10-16-2005, 01:47 PM
I was listening to Orchid this morning, and couldn't help but notice how badass the lyrics are on this album. I know the entire album by heart, both lyrically and guitars, but it just now hit me how intricate these lyrics are. I recommend listening to Orchid tonight, and give me your feedback later on.
I agree. Orchid, al those years ago, was the first Opeth album I ever bought. I remember sitting in my room late at night listening to the music and reading the lyrics. It's a really underrated album.

EDIT: I agree with Shattered_Future.

xizoesira
10-16-2005, 01:54 PM
I listened to Ghost Reveries recently; it still feels to me like Opeth peaked at Still Life and has been declining since.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 01:56 PM
I agree. Orchid, al those years ago, was the first Opeth album I ever bought. I remember sitting in my room late at night listening to the music and reading the lyrics. It's a really underrated album.

EDIT: I agree with Shattered_Future.


:D Indeed. The album hit me really hard because of the time I purchased it. It didn't (and STILL DOESN'T) sound like anything I own(ed). Orchid is precious and I am so happy others reaslize it :)

Anybody that says Shadows Fall is generic metalcore should be kicked in the chin fat.

I'll tell you something, I bought Reroute To Remain on a hunch, I always buy new cd's to hear what they sound like, mainly because there's nothing to do in this town. Anyway...I listened to it and didn't like it that much, so I went back to the store (FYE) and wanted to exchange. I traded it for the album Of One Blood, I randomly picked it. All I can say about that album is ''holy shlt''. I tried to get so many people into these guys. It worked lol
I named warcraft characters after songs on that album nopt to mention I had a very sucessful guild called <Of One Blood>. The album is so awesome! To this day, I still listen to it fully and remains on my list for top 10 greatest metal albums ever recorded.

Toaster
10-16-2005, 01:59 PM
EDIT: Anybody that says Shadows Fall is generic metalcore should be kicked in the chin fat.

I know you're not serious when you say this, and I'm not upset or anything, but could you just tell me why Shadows Fall are so pure and perfect? They were my favorite band from the time they released Of One Blood to the time they released The War Within. I just think that they aren't too special in any department at all. Not that they are bad, its just I think there are far more bands that distinguish themselves with a complimentary style and signature sound better than SF.

Also, in my opinion they have regressed with The War Within.

Cain
10-16-2005, 02:02 PM
Yeah, I don't much that's interesting about Shadows Fall. Most American Wave of Heavy Metal seems inherently regressive, in that they don't do anything that's really new. It's not very impressive to me, I guess.

RouteOne
10-16-2005, 02:03 PM
I listened to Ghost Reveries recently; it still feels to me like Opeth peaked at Still Life and has been declining since.
You don't like any of their albums after Still Life?

EDIT: ^^^ Agreed 110% Cain. This "new wave of American metal" is just ridiculous and generic.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 02:04 PM
Yeah, I don't much that's interesting about Shadows Fall. Most American Wave of Heavy Metal seems inherently regressive, in that they don't do anything that's really new. It's not very impressive to me, I guess.


I take it you've never heard Of One Blood, or With Somber Eyes To The Sky then?

Cain
10-16-2005, 02:29 PM
I take it you've never heard Of One Blood, or With Somber Eyes To The Sky then?

No, but by all accounts they haven't improved on those albums, if they are indeed excellent as you seem to be implying. In any case, the music I have heard is remarkably devoid of melody, and I greatly dislike their soloing style.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 02:33 PM
No, but by all accounts they haven't improved on those albums, if they are indeed excellent as you seem to be implying. In any case, the music I have heard is remarkably devoid of melody, and I greatly dislike their soloing style.

That's cool. So you haven't heard Of One Blood or With Somber Eyes To The Sky. Well, Cain, when you do listen to them, I assure you..there's melody. And if you really don't see it. I give up with you.

Toaster
10-16-2005, 02:40 PM
That's cool. So you haven't heard Of One Blood or With Somber Eyes To The Sky. Well, Cain, when you do listen to them, I assure you..there's melody. And if you really don't see it. I give up with you.

They definitely have melody, but that's not really the point.. most of the melody SF put into their music is the same melodic hooks we have heard over and over again. Sometimes it's better to be devoid of melody if it means avoiding cliche and repetition. It also seems that SF have a couple new songs they really didn't put effort into at all. Stillness and Eternity is Within seem very forced-sounding to me, and both songs have riffs I just can't stand sometimes.

Another problem is that Brian Fair has trouble supporting the melodic lines his band writes; IMO he hasn't released a decent vocal effort on any SF albums yet.

And I have Of One Blood.

Stormrider
10-16-2005, 02:41 PM
what album is The Twilight Is My Robe on ?

i was wanting to buy an Opeth cd, i got into them recently dnt know a whole lot of songs though...only bout 15 or so...but i was wondering what a would be a good album to start with ?

Jude
10-16-2005, 02:48 PM
I listened to Ghost Reveries recently; it still feels to me like Opeth peaked at Still Life and has been declining since.
Nah, they haven't been declining. Still Life is my favorite album too, but Blackwater Park and Damnation are both undeniably of the same quality as it--Still Life just strikes me that certain way. GR is lacking a certain je ne sais quois that the other albums mostly had, but it's still great.

Stormrider: that song is on Orchid. I recommend you buy Still Life, because it owns so much. I just listened to it today and it's worth buying just for The Moor and Face of Melinda...but the rest of the songs deliver so much that it's a must-have.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 02:50 PM
what album is The Twilight Is My Robe on ?

i was wanting to buy an Opeth cd, i got into them recently dnt know a whole lot of songs though...only bout 15 or so...but i was wondering what a would be a good album to start with ?

It's track 5 off of Orchid. And yes, Orchid would be a great start.

Toaster
10-16-2005, 02:50 PM
what album is The Twilight Is My Robe on ?


Orchid.

Stormrider
10-16-2005, 02:53 PM
It's track 5 off of Orchid. And yes, Orchid would be a great start.


Thanks, ill pick it up in a week or so i hope.

Cain
10-16-2005, 02:53 PM
That's cool. So you haven't heard Of One Blood or With Somber Eyes To The Sky. Well, Cain, when you do listen to them, I assure you..there's melody. And if you really don't see it. I give up with you.

Heh, ok. Clearly I've made a few dents in your opinion of me, but based on what I have heard by Shadows Fall, I see no point in spending money on two albums that may be excellent examples of their kind of music when I know that decline has already set in, in much the same way that major league baseball teams don't want to hire a 40-year-old slugger just because five years ago they hit a lot of home runs per season.

EDIT: My main problem is the vocal style.

Shattered_Future
10-16-2005, 02:57 PM
I know you're not serious when you say this, and I'm not upset or anything, but could you just tell me why Shadows Fall are so pure and perfect? They were my favorite band from the time they released Of One Blood to the time they released The War Within. I just think that they aren't too special in any department at all. Not that they are bad, its just I think there are far more bands that distinguish themselves with a complimentary style and signature sound better than SF.

Also, in my opinion they have regressed with The War Within.

They AREN'T perfect...they aren't generic either.

Compare them to, say, Atreyu, or A Perfect Murder or Martyr AD, or any of the other generic metalcore bands out there. Is there a difference? Yes. Shadows Fall just excels at what they do.

They are refreshing and original. Quite a breath of fresh air for the tired, generic American Metal scene.

However, yes, they have taken a step down with TWW. TAOB was MUCH better.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 02:57 PM
Heh, ok. Clearly I've made a few dents in your opinion of me, but based on what I have heard by Shadows Fall, I see no point in spending money on two albums that may be excellent examples of their kind of music when I know that decline has already set in, in much the same way that major league baseball teams don't want to hire a 40-year-old slugger just because five years ago they hit a lot of home runs per season.

EDIT: My main problem is the vocal style.

I don't like the new album. In fact, I don't even own it, not to mention I gave The Art Of Balance away. I love Of One Blood so much though, that album means so much to me. The entire album is great and ahead of it's time when it came out.

whatduffhuck7
10-16-2005, 02:59 PM
im sorry i though i came into opeth thread, this must be shadows fall thread

Toaster
10-16-2005, 03:00 PM
im sorry i though i came into opeth thread, this must be shadows fall thread

Did you honestly just post that to get us riled up?

Toaster
10-16-2005, 03:01 PM
Hey, I just noticed something else about the new site format.. try to say the "f-word".

Flynn
10-16-2005, 03:02 PM
im sorry i though i came into opeth thread, this must be shadows fall thread


So......I'm drunk, blaring Black Rose Immortal out my window atm...\m/

RouteOne
10-16-2005, 03:02 PM
Hey, I just noticed something else about the new site format.. try to say the "f-word".
Fuck? Or Fag?

Toaster
10-16-2005, 03:04 PM
Fuck? Or Fag?

The former.. actually print it with normal font though.

Shattered_Future
10-16-2005, 03:06 PM
fusty walrus!

EDIT: :lol:

Clever...

RouteOne
10-16-2005, 03:06 PM
Fuck.

EDIT: Tee hee.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 03:07 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Toaster
10-16-2005, 03:09 PM
And that's how you keep people from swearing.

Jude
10-16-2005, 03:37 PM
fusty walrus!

EDIT: :lol:

Clever...

It's been like that for months. Or at least weeks.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 03:38 PM
It's been like that ever since I can remember.

ok lateralus
10-16-2005, 03:46 PM
Now let's keep this an Opeth thread

Darkness
10-16-2005, 04:08 PM
Now let's keep this an Opeth thread
Agreed, this whole page has been spam.


..So whats everyone's favorite song from BWP? :amaze:

DuncMaster
10-16-2005, 04:09 PM
Agreed, this whole page has been spam.


..So whats everyone's favorite song from BWP? :amaze:
Bleak.

My favourite Opeth song. (From what I've heard).

Flynn
10-16-2005, 04:17 PM
Bleak.

Toaster
10-16-2005, 04:19 PM
Agreed, this whole page has been spam.


..So whats everyone's favorite song from BWP? :amaze:


The Drapery Falls. My favourite intro ever, in any song.

Jude
10-16-2005, 04:20 PM
Agreed, this whole page has been spam.


..So whats everyone's favorite song from BWP? :amaze:

The Drapery Falls, then Harvest/Bleak, after that I don't know.

I'm Charming
10-16-2005, 04:35 PM
Harvast and Bleak.

You still can fucking swear! To respond to what I missed:wave:

Toaster
10-16-2005, 04:38 PM
Agreed, this whole page has been spam.


..So whats everyone's favorite song from BWP? :amaze:

What's yours?

UpperDecker
10-16-2005, 04:39 PM
Mine is The Leper Affinity and Blackwater Park

Txus
10-16-2005, 04:40 PM
Harvest and The Leper Affinity for me.

RouteOne
10-16-2005, 04:42 PM
Mine is the hidden track.

"Descending into the Moore I ask Melinda is she wants to eat at dennys"


Great song.

Darkness
10-16-2005, 04:43 PM
What's yours?
I originally asked this as a joke since we've done it 10000 times in this thread, but I'll tell you anyway.

My favorites are The Leper Affinity (the best album opener ever) The Drapery Falls (got me into the band, + great riffs/lyrics/vocals) and, ofcourse Blackwater Park (when have you heard such a heavy/evil song... ever?)

Toaster
10-16-2005, 04:44 PM
Mine is the hidden track.

"Descending into the Moore I ask Melinda is she wants to eat at dennys"


Great song.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jude
10-16-2005, 04:48 PM
I originally asked this as a joke since we've done it 10000 times in this thread, but I'll tell you anyway.

My favorites are The Leper Affinity (the best album opener ever) The Drapery Falls (got me into the band, + great riffs/lyrics/vocals) and, ofcourse Blackwater Park (when have you heard such a heavy/evil song... ever?)

Leper Affinity is good, but The Moor and Ghost of Perdition are both better album openers.

And plus there are plenty of other album openers that own really hard too. The first that springs to mind is Embody the Invisible.on Colony.

Dried Muffin Remnants
10-16-2005, 04:49 PM
The Moor > Lepper Affinity > Ghost of Perdition

From BWP: BWP, Lepper Affinity, and Bleak are my three favorites.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 05:54 PM
The Moor > Lepper Affinity > Ghost of Perdition

From BWP: BWP, Lepper Affinity, and Bleak are my three favorites.


I like Ghost Of Perdition.

Shattered_Future
10-16-2005, 06:00 PM
I love how its got that quiet part, and then just explodes in...we were gonna leave it preloaded at Hot Topic, and scare the crap out of some unsuspecting mallcore kid. :lol:

BWP faves...The Leper Affinity (first time I heard it, i was like :amaze:. Possibly my favorite song by them), Bleak, and the bonus track, Still Day Beneath The Sun. Pretty acoustic number.

Shadows
10-16-2005, 06:02 PM
I traded it for the album Of One Blood, I randomly picked it. All I can say about that album is ''holy shlt''. I tried to get so many people into these guys. It worked lol
I named warcraft characters after songs on that album nopt to mention I had a very sucessful guild called <Of One Blood>. The album is so awesome! To this day, I still listen to it fully and remains on my list for top 10 greatest metal albums ever recorded.
:eek: I'm so late, but holy shit! More SF fans! OOB is an incredible album by any standards.

Anyhoo, back to Opeth. Blackwater Park remains my least favorite Opeth album. I listened to it long ago and could not stand it at all.

Shattered_Future
10-16-2005, 06:04 PM
WHAAAAT?! :amaze:

BWP is probably my FAVORITE Opeth album...Mikael's voice is unbelievably evil on that release, right along with the riffs.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 06:05 PM
Really? I didn't care that much for it when I got it either, after a few listens of Orchid, I realized how much they evolved. The album is extraordinary, really.

Shadows
10-16-2005, 06:05 PM
I should give it another listen now that I actually like Opeth. I heard it two years ago when I was first getting into them and only one of their songs appealed to me.

Stormrider
10-16-2005, 06:07 PM
Is Orchid earlier or newer Opeth?

Flynn
10-16-2005, 06:09 PM
Yes, you should. Listen to it on the headphones all the way through in the dark. Trust me, if your not satisfied, I'll buy the CD from you. :)

Flynn
10-16-2005, 06:09 PM
Is Orchid earlier or newer Opeth?
Orchid is Opeth's Debut album.




Edit: double post ack!

Shadows
10-16-2005, 06:10 PM
Yes, you should. Listen to it on the headphones all the way through in the dark. Trust me, if your not satisfied, I'll buy the CD from you. :)
/looks at location

Very well, I'll do it. :)

Flynn
10-16-2005, 06:11 PM
/looks at location

Very well, I'll do it. :)


Do you have AIM?

Stormrider
10-16-2005, 06:19 PM
Orchid is Opeth's Debut album.



What are the songs from that album ?

Shadows
10-16-2005, 06:19 PM
Do you have AIM?
I do.

TheFlashMango

EDIT: I just got the album though, so don't worry about it. Thanks anyway. :)

Jude
10-16-2005, 06:37 PM
What are the songs from that album ?
Opeth.com and click on Discography :thumb:

Toaster
10-16-2005, 06:57 PM
Sorry.. what is AIM?

Shadows
10-16-2005, 06:57 PM
AIM = AOL instant messanger

Crysiss
10-16-2005, 07:07 PM
Mine is the hidden track.

"Descending into the Moore I ask Melinda is she wants to eat at dennys"


Great song.


when did this happen, or you just screwing around...arr:upset: im so lost man.
my favourite album is ghost reveries, surprisingly, i like ghost of perdition.
but if i picked a song from BWP, id have to choose The drapery falls and harvest. both have great vocals.

Darkness
10-16-2005, 07:29 PM
Harvest never really hit me like it seems to do for everyone else... I actually prefer Patterns In The Ivy... that song is just so perfect... and its nice to hear before Blackwater Park. :D

Flynn
10-16-2005, 07:31 PM
Harvest never really hit me like it seems to do for everyone else... I actually prefer Patterns In The Ivy... that song is just so perfect... and its nice to hear before Blackwater Park. :D


Do you have AIM?

Toaster
10-16-2005, 07:31 PM
when did this happen, or you just screwing around...arr:upset: im so lost man.
my favourite album is ghost reveries, surprisingly, i like ghost of perdition.
but if i picked a song from BWP, id have to choose The drapery falls and harvest. both have great vocals.

I'm pretty sure he is kidding.. I mean, would Mikael ask the main character from the concept of another album to Denny's, the restaraunt? I really hope that was a joke.

Det_Nosnip
10-16-2005, 07:36 PM
My favorite Opeth track remains Godhead's Lament. I don't know why, but that song just blows me away. It's really hard to pick 1 track, but that would be mine.

Det_Nosnip
10-16-2005, 07:38 PM
Harvest never really hit me like it seems to do for everyone else... I actually prefer Patterns In The Ivy... that song is just so perfect... and its nice to hear before Blackwater Park. :D

Too short. :(

I'm not sure what my favorite from BWP would be. It'd probably be between Bleak and The Drapery Falls, although "The Funeral Portrait" is very underrated IMO.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 07:40 PM
My favorite Opeth track remains Godhead's Lament. I don't know why, but that song just blows me away. It's really hard to pick 1 track, but that would be mine.





''Searching my way to perplexion, ahhh ahhh ahhh
In crumbling faith I saw her
Bearing her pain in the wilderness ahh ahh ahh
The gleam of her eyes
In that moment she knew...raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawrrrr!!!''

Yeah, great tune man, I love that song. :D

Crysiss
10-16-2005, 07:41 PM
I'm pretty sure he is kidding.. I mean, would Mikael ask the main character from the concept of another album to Denny's, the restaraunt? I really hope that was a joke.

hell i hope it is real just to hear something stupid from mikael lol. He always sounds so wise and knowledgable.(???)

Darkness
10-16-2005, 08:09 PM
Do you have AIM?
Unfortunatly not. I'm an MSN kinda guy... since I'm Canadain and all...




What would they care if I was gay? Noone would know... hoooomoooooo!"

Yeah, great tune.;)

Crysiss
10-16-2005, 08:13 PM
lol, I never knew canadians didnt use AIM, i use it to send files, and to talk to people about music

Darkness
10-16-2005, 08:14 PM
AIM is from AOL, right? We don't use it that much here. Almost noone has AIM, or even know what it is, for that matter.

Toaster
10-16-2005, 08:19 PM
lol, I never knew canadians didnt use AIM, i use it to send files, and to talk to people about music

Well AOL is AMERICAN Online.

ok lateralus
10-16-2005, 08:44 PM
Agreed, this whole page has been spam.


..So whats everyone's favorite song from BWP? :amaze:

Probably Harvest. It's a great album but probably one of my least favorite Opeth albums. Just doesn't quite compare to their best stuff

Darkness
10-16-2005, 08:48 PM
Probably Harvest. It's a great album but probably one of my least favorite Opeth albums. Just doesn't quite compare to their best stuff
Its one of their best, IMO.

Toaster
10-16-2005, 08:49 PM
Its one of their best, IMO.

I second.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 09:01 PM
Harvest is a great song. I love listening to it, especially on road trips. I still like Bleak the most though. God that song is badass!

Det_Nosnip
10-16-2005, 09:06 PM
Well AOL is AMERICAN Online.

That's funny, because I talk to someone from the Netherlands pretty much daily on it.

I'm Charming
10-16-2005, 09:08 PM
I like I said before,
Harvest and Bleak are my favs. Overall Opeth favs also.

Flynn
10-16-2005, 09:14 PM
That's funny, because I talk to someone from the Netherlands pretty much daily on it.


I use AIM a lot, it's nice.

Jude
10-16-2005, 10:59 PM
I use AIM a lot, it's nice.
AIM>all other message services.

Tonight I was out for a walk and it was full moon and the sky was really clear...man, I wished I had brought a CD player and Orchid along.

Jawaharal
10-16-2005, 11:04 PM
AIM>all other message services.

Tonight I was out for a walk and it was full moon and the sky was really clear...man, I wished I had brought a CD player and Orchid along.
I almost peeded myself taking a walk like your listening to ghost reveries.