Opeth

[One Step Beyond]

shut up stupid American :p

do you hold any grudge against Dutch people?
I love Amsterdam but I don't think the locals liked us too much.

[the2stranger]

No, I'm just being a dick :p, now go where your wooden shoes and sodomize some amphibious horse beast with a windmill..

hahahaha


I'm actually not all that Dutch, the area where I come from is quite seperated from the rest of the Netherlands, and we have an own dialect, and really dont like to be seen as a part of the Netherlands.
but it never hurts to sodomize a horse :naughty:

and me being a dïck back, you made a typo on where ;)
where = wear, I don't think so


Damien:

WHy didn't the locals like you?

you should visit me sometimes, we'll drink a beer :chug:

[i am the robots]

You've said that before, I'm pretty sure, buck I like dicking around :naughty:.

and sodomizing horses pwns... plus if you've seen Mr. Hands, you'll know being sodomized by a Horse pwns as well.

EDIT: haha, you caught me on a mistake in my own native toungue, wow!

[One Step Beyond]

Damien:

WHy didn't the locals like you?

you should visit me sometimes, we'll drink a beer :chug:
Well, it was me and my mother there, getting lost and cruising around on some rented bikes. She had to relearn to ride the thing and wasn't very safe on the paths. :p

I don't know. People seemed to look down on us and get angry when we asked for direction or had questions about something. And then one guy yelled at us for no apprent reason, but in dutch. I didn't know what to do about him, so we just pedalled(sp?) off.

[Det_Nosnip]

I want to go to the Netherlands SOOOO bad...so much good music! From what I've seen, parts of it look really pretty, too.

[the2stranger]

Ted, you don't want to vist most of the Netherlands, most of it is just flat as a tit, and just grass and cows.

in the south (where I live:cool: ) it's very nice, lots of forests and nice landscape :)

[Darkness]

Canada > Everywhere else. :D

[Thor]

Anyways..

Canada > Everywhere else. :D
Switzerland sure gives Canada a run for it's money.

[Darkness]

Switzerland is really nice, actually. I have been myself. 98 I think.

Canada is bigger though. :D

[Deth]

On the subject of growling, I am improving dramatically. I can do the first two albums no problem and the growls which aren't insanely amazing (i.e. Masters Apprentices) I can do for a while.

And yes, Rise To Submation is the greatest line ever. I had that song stuck in my head all of Friday.

[Det_Nosnip]

Ted, you don't want to vist most of the Netherlands, most of it is just flat as a tit, and just grass and cows.

in the south (where I live:cool: ) it's very nice, lots of forests and nice landscape :)

Sounds like fun. I mostly want to go to catch a Gathering or After Forever gig, although as I recall you don't care for either band, ironically enough. Amsterdam might be fun, though.

[FlyingPaul_83]

I just recently got into them, and I must say:



wow. Incredible stuff.

[Darkness]

I just recently got into them, and I must say:



wow. Incredible stuff.
Welcome, my friend. :D

[relliK]

Your feelings for them will only grow stronger with time.Trust me.

[Mr. Ron]

I've come to appreciate BWP a lot more. I was a diehard Orchid/morningrise fan and now I have been listening to BWP more and recognise how great of an album it is.

[mudvayne420]

SUp People, i like opeth because they can go from Sick Death metal growls to soft mellow ****, i also like the way they continue the song when you think it ends it starts again...well i wanted to know if anybody can upload A Fair Judgement.

[One Step Beyond]

Uploads aren't allowed anymore.

[mudvayne420]

how about i give you my email address and you can send it to me
parabol87004@aol.com

[Simon__Thats_All]

Black Rose Immortal is a good song if you want to hear them stopping and starting (it's a great song for everything though) about 5 times you think it's going to end and it kicks back in again. I love it.

[epihasi]

I can. :D

Masters Apprentices that is...

Son of a bitch :D

[Slapping Penguin]

Yeah Europe sounds fun. I am over Australia.

[i am the robots]

SUp People, i like opeth because they can go from Sick Death metal growls to soft mellow ****, i also like the way they continue the song when you think it ends it starts again...well i wanted to know if anybody can upload A Fair Judgement.

You don't deserve to listen to Opeth!

[mudvayne420]

WHy don't i deserve to listen to them?

[One Step Beyond]

You don't deserve to listen to Opeth!
Hey! :mad:

[mudvayne420]

My fav. opeth song would have to be A Fair Judgement, becuase i like the rhytmn to it after the verse.

[the2stranger]

A Fair Judgement rules, bacause of the aswesome accoustic solo part
/drools

[mudvayne420]

YUP i forgot about that part, i like the way they play it on Lamentations.

[JamJar]

*thought i would introduce myself*

Hey, i've recently got into opeth and i rele do luv the way they can change styles so easily. I only hav SL and BWP at the moment but plan to get more (being 14 is so frustrating for income :)) I rele want to hear the new album and older stuff.

Well, hey

[Iron Man]

*thought i would introduce myself*

Hey, i've recently got into opeth and i rele do luv the way they can change styles so easily. I only hav SL and BWP at the moment but plan to get more (being 14 is so frustrating for income :)) I rele want to hear the new album and older stuff.

Well, hey

Hello. Yeah, I started buying Opeth albums a year ago, when I was only 15, took me a while to get them all. But hey, it was worth it. I might be seeing them with Nevermore in October...maybe.

[ambush]

*thought i would introduce myself*

Hey, i've recently got into opeth and i rele do luv the way they can change styles so easily. I only hav SL and BWP at the moment but plan to get more (being 14 is so frustrating for income :)) I rele want to hear the new album and older stuff.

Well, hey

Hay Ha-ay! :naughty:

Kidding. Welcome. :wave:

[Darkness]

Hey! :mad:
Vikingcore, never ever say that to a hardcore Opeth fan. Its like saying the lords name in vien to a hardcore catholic. :p

[The Flabbit Rides High]

*thought i would introduce myself*

Hey, i've recently got into opeth and i rele do luv the way they can change styles so easily. I only hav SL and BWP at the moment but plan to get more (being 14 is so frustrating for income :)) I rele want to hear the new album and older stuff.

Well, hey

Hiya! Welcome!

As to your consern? Get My Arms, Your Hearse. I can honestly say that and Ghost Reveries is the best album they've ever made.


/awaits Still-Life fan-boys :lol:

[FlyingPaul_83]

so, are they touring with nevermore in the states? If so, does anyone have a list of shows, or a link?

[cryforhelp]

metalica is better.

[GenuineImitation]

metalica is better.


Then post in the metallica thread.

Anyway, I think it would be great if they toured with Nevermore in the states.

[One Step Beyond]

Hiya! Welcome!

As to your consern? Get My Arms, Your Hearse. I can honestly say that and Ghost Reveries is the best album they've ever made.


/awaits Still-Life fan-boys :lol:
OMH u iz a crazee n00b!!1!!

Still life ownz joo an ur st00p1d ghost revereeis!!! :angry: : :evil: :angry:

I'm sorry. :p

[The Flabbit Rides High]

OMH u iz a crazee n00b!!1!!

Still life ownz joo an ur st00p1d ghost revereeis!!! :angry: : :evil: :angry:

I'm sorry. :p


Hah, omg, ur soooo noombish and trol liek to teh maximum bruu. Still-leeave is liek so borin and stuv. Groth up man! :thumb:

Im sorry. :) :lol:

But seriously....MAYH was perfect...still-life had Moonlapse Vertigo...that was its Achilles Heel....hehe :lol:

[Flynn]

*thought i would introduce myself*

Hey, i've recently got into opeth and i rele do luv the way they can change styles so easily. I only hav SL and BWP at the moment but plan to get more (being 14 is so frustrating for income :)) I rele want to hear the new album and older stuff.

Well, hey


Welcome to the one-and-only Opeth Thread!
So, what do you think of Still Life and Blackwater Park? They're both epic albums. You should save up to get My Arms, Your Hearse next :D But that's just my recommendation. :thumb:

[Darkness]

Ghost Reveries disappoints me... :upset:

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Ghost Reveries disappoints me... :upset:

Was it The Grand Conjuration? :lol: :lol:

hah, im just asking cuz i neva listen to that track. :)

[Darkness]

Thats one of the best songs. :upset: That and Ghost of Peridition was decent, and Baying of the hounds and Harlequin forest... those are all decent, though not off the charts amazing like Blackwater Park or Face of Melinda. Lacks a good climax IMO.

[Kage]

I tried to type a list of my favorite songs from Ghost Reveries, but I just kept going and going. I love that album.

[Darkness]

Its a 2.5/5 for me... nothing incredible, but a good listen. I can't listen to it more then once per day, which is a lot different then any other Opeth album. Needs more heavy parts and more growls... and better guitar work.

[One Step Beyond]

I love Ghost Reveries. It could just be because I'm a fanboy though. Mikael could record him taking a dump and I would love it. :(

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Thats one of the best songs. :upset: That and Ghost of Peridition was decent, and Baying of the hounds and Harlequin forest... those are all decent, though not off the charts amazing like Blackwater Park or Face of Melinda. Lacks a good climax IMO.

Maybe its just different from what you expected? Maybe the hype was too much. God knows it was huge.

IMO, i think Isolation Years is a great ending...although, ive heard that The Grand Conjuration is the end? Weird.

[Darkness]

Isolation Years is the ending, though some say its not a part of the concept though it does seem to fit in... good song, but it just kind of ends... needs a little more, same with Beneath the Mire.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Isolation Years is the ending, though some say its not a part of the concept though it does seem to fit in... good song, but it just kind of ends... needs a little more, same with Beneath the Mire.

Yeah, I kinda get what your saying. Some of the songs are ...uhgg...lacking, and the guitarwork is definatly deworked. I mean, compare Baying of the Hounds and Wreath. But this just goes to show that Opeth can make a brilliant album without all the technical mumbo jombo. They are truly amazing at everything that they do.

But frankly...im too much of a fan-boy to care...or even think about the posiblity of it being dissapointing.

I could sing along to Harliquin Forest for ages... :p

[Darkness]

Wreath isn't that technical either, check out The Moor or anything from the first 2 albums. Wreath is badass though, I like that song more then anything on the new cd. :lol:

Second guitar solo... \m/

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Wreath isn't that technical either, check out The Moor or anything from the first 2 albums. Wreath is badass though, I like that song more then anything on the new cd. :lol:

Second guitar solo... \m/

Yeah! I love that last part in Wreath 9;00 i think. It so awesome the way the two vocals come in, and later his growls go twin-style! Hell Yeah! :thumb:

[Flynn]

Ghost Reveries is my least favorite Opeth album. It doesn't have the structure or lethality that I was hoping for. Although, I do like a select few riffs, I rarely listen to that album anymore. It has actually brought me closer to Deliverance. :lol: :lol: Maybe the next Opeth album will make me want to listen to Ghost Reveries, and I hope that day never comes.

[Kage]

Say what you will, but I think pre- MAYH Opeth sucks, and all the new stuff is miles ahead of it.

[Darkness]

Yeah! I love that last part in Wreath 9;00 i think. It so awesome the way the two vocals come in, and later his growls go twin-style! Hell Yeah! :thumb:
Awesome, awesome opener to an awesome, awesome album. :thumb:


Ghost Reveries is my least favorite Opeth album.
Same, I hope this is just a bit of a phase they go through, and return to metal madness on the next cd. :D Its still ok, but man Deliverance & ****ation were just so awesome that this was... not awesome.

Say what you will, but I think pre- MAYH Opeth sucks, and all the new stuff is miles ahead of it.
MAYH-Damnation are all better then Ghost Reveries...

You don't like any old Opeth? To bid you fairwell?

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Say what you will, but I think pre- MAYH Opeth sucks, and all the new stuff is miles ahead of it.

OMG, are you an angel?!

I agree like a big 123 like a mofo there! :thumb:

I think Morningrise and Orchid are miles behind the other albums. Production wise, song wise, and ..uhg....growl wise. :)

[Darkness]

If those albums were redone, with better production and better vocals... I think they could almost beat any of the new stuff. Get Steven Wilson to work on those... :thumb:

[Kage]

MAYH-Damnation are all better then Ghost Reveries...

You don't like any old Opeth? To bid you fairwell?
I think MAYH is the first truly good album they made. Orchid is horridly cheesy and sounds plain bad, Morningrise is mediocre to say the most. I mean, there are some good moments, even good songs, but Opeth didn't start making true quality music until midway in their career. Still Life and Blackwater Park were their first true masterpeices, and Ghost Reveries is the third.

I don't understand not liking an album because it's not heavy or technical enough. That's stupid to me.

[Darkness]

Its just boreing... Wheres the sick riffing from Blackwater Park? The untouchable song writing from Still Life? The brutality of Deliverance? The emotion of Damnation? This album has nothing but a few cool parts, and a good concept.

It just lacks as an album. IMO ofcourse. :p

[Flynn]

Say what you will, but I think pre- MAYH Opeth sucks, and all the new stuff is miles ahead of it.



You think ''To Bid You Farewell'' sucks?

I don't know you anymore. :angry: :angry: :angry:

[Kage]

Well, I think I've proven that the old stuff sucks, when there's only one song people talk about as being so great, whereas on Still Life, Blackwater Park, and D/D every song is worth a mention.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Well, I think I've proven that the old stuff sucks, when there's only one song people talk about as being so great, whereas on Still Life, Blackwater Park, and D/D every song is worth a mention.

Ownage.

Great reply.

[Flynn]

Orchid is probably one of the most revolutionary Death Metal albums ever recorded. The recording wasn't that great, but you gotta remember, that was back in what, 1995? That album is a decade old, and a coin toss away from my all time favorite album...ever. Even today it holds it's place being totally original. The structure and song titles are unheard of!

I remember back when I bought that CD, I looked at the back and glanced at the first song ''In Mist She Was Standing'', didn't look further, and bought it. I'm very happy I did. The end of In Mist She Was Standing has a really elusive and Renaissance style of acoustic outro. I listen to that song quit often.

Morningrise, to me, is the ''Master Of Puppets'' of all Opeth discography. I can't describe it's complexity and technicallity within it's layers of well put together guitar riffs and flawless bass, both guitar and drums. Not to mention some of Mikaels best vocals both singing and screaming (IMO). I love the vibe on the entire album and it is easily the most devastating Death Metal album ever.



If you like Opeth, and have not had the chance to listen to these masterpieces, I strongly recommend both of these albums. They're epic. :thumb:

[naboo]

Morningrise might just be my favorite album of all-time and easily my favorite Opeth album.

[Simon__Thats_All]

/is still looking for Morningrise.

[Flynn]

Morningrise might just be my favorite album of all-time and easily my favorite Opeth album.



I just mentioned one song for Kage as I do not have the time to rant on about them all :lol:

But yes, Morningrise to me is Opeth at their Prime. Although it's very rare for a band to come up with new songs and sound the same since debut (Iron Maiden), I like the path Opeth took. It just makes the value of Orchid/Morningrise skyrocket. :D

[Flynn]

/is still looking for Morningrise.



It's worth a buy. Have you heard any of it yet?

[bucket]

Morningrise is my favorite album. It's not that great if you just take a song out and listen to it individually, but as an entire collection of five songs in a row, it's absolutely amazing.

One night I listened to Morningrise in complete darkness. Listening to music at night wasn't unusual, but this time it was different. I had my headphones on and the volume was at a nice hearty level. I couldn't do anything except listen to the music and hear my thoughts. It was awesome.

I don't know how to describe that experience, but it was the most dandy listen I've ever had. The funny thing is, I've only listened to MR maybe 3 times since then... a few months ago.

[One Step Beyond]

The only album I don't physically own is Still Life, and it's my favorite. :(

[Simon__Thats_All]

It's worth a buy. Have you heard any of it yet?
Yeah, someone uploaded Black Rose Immortal for me, and I think To Bid You Farewell is from it as well, or I could be wrong. As far as I know, that's it though. I think I have everything else... I have Orchid, Still Life, Deliverance, Damnation, My Arms Your Hearse, Ghost Reveries, Black Water Park... Yeah.

[Flynn]

Morningrise is my favorite album. It's not that great if you just take a song out and listen to it individually, but as an entire collection of five songs in a row, it's absolutely amazing.

One night I listened to Morningrise in complete darkness. Listening to music at night wasn't unusual, but this time it was different. I had my headphones on and the volume was at a nice hearty level. I couldn't do anything except listen to the music and hear my thoughts. It was awesome.

I don't know how to describe that experience, but it was the most dandy listen I've ever had. The funny thing is, I've only listened to MR maybe 3 times since then... a few months ago.




wow, seriously, I do not lie when I say ''I know that feeling''. It really is a great concept album. I listen to the entire album every time. Withe the exeption of Black Rose Immortal ( I have my reasons ) :D

[Shattered_Future]

I listened to Morningrise once when I was taking a ride on vacation...

A few problems I have with it: The vocals are a lot worse than on later albums, and the songs don't really seem like songs...just one new riff after another. There's no real structure to their songs.

That being said, some brilliant riffs in that album there are though (I sound like Yoda... :confused: ).

And I just realized...Opeth AND Nevermore are coming to me November 3rd ON THE SAME BILL.

I started working on my parents to take me and a few friends (they're doing the same thing with their parents) to get us there...so far, it's going suprisingly well. They're actually listening. :p

[Hells Bells]

I don't know what everyone has against Orchid...except Flynn :p

On Orchid, it sounds like Opeth was experimenting with different styles...they hadn't really defined their own style yet. Other than that, it's still a great album...

Then again, I can't really say anything about Opeth's albums so far, I love 'em all :p

[One Step Beyond]

I love all of Opeth albums. They all have a unique personality to them.

[Slapping Penguin]

Orchid was the first Opeth album I got. Fantastic, I love how all the songs flow between each other. Example Sillhouette onto Forest of October.

The Twilight Is My Robe onto Requiem onto The Apostle In Truimph. Amazing.

Yeah Damien I really like Still Life too. Nothing bests Godhead and Moor. Serenity is so good too. :D

[One Step Beyond]

Orchid was my first purchased album as well.

[Shattered_Future]

Orchid has a few of my favorite Opeth songs...Forest Of October is sheer brilliance.

[Flynn]

Orchid has a few of my favorite Opeth songs...Forest Of October is sheer brilliance.


I love that song

[VeedBok]

Orchid has a few of my favorite Opeth songs

Orchid is definately one of my favorite Opeth albums, In the Mist She was Standing is my favorite song.

[Hells Bells]

Forest of October and In the Mist She Was Standing are awesome, but my favourite off that album is definitely Silhouette...it's so dark, and it's completely on the piano.

[Deth]

In Mist She Was Standing just barely misses out on the top five favorite 'Peth songs for me.

[One Step Beyond]

I like "Twilight In My Robe" more.

[Flynn]

I like "Twilight In My Robe" more.



I like the entire album. :thumb:

[Killtacular]

I just got Orchid last night. I still haven't listened to yet, but my favourite's Silhouette. Heh heh. Out of the two or three full length songs I've heard I'd say In the Mist She was Standing.

[ElectricalStorm]

I love Kage for directly throwing down the gauntlet in this thread. Although I don't regard orchid and morningrise as harshly as he does I'm definitely on his side of the spectrum.

In regards to Ghost Reveries hate:

Ghost Reveries is a refined, polished, and cohesive album that is a culmination of opeth's musical progression. Sure some aspects of opeth have been shed along the way, most apparent being the acoustic sections of the first albums that I feel is what endears so many mxers to the early albums. But that's what happens with progressive music--it evolves. Ghost Reveries is an album that is still ultimately grounded in opeth's sound, its stylistically and quintessentially opeth, yet it takes the band to another level by implying that there is further progression and experimentation to come(Beneath the Mire is probably the best evidence of this). The combination of these facets not only make gr a great album but also a landmark one in their discography.

Opeth's last two efforts primarily serve to flesh out the heavy and soft styles that were realized on Blackwater Park--a detour that focused on refining an already existing sound. Ghost Reveries polishes that sound even further while taking a big step forward musically ushering a potentially new era of opeth music and that is what differentiates it from D&D. To get straight to the point, disliking the direction that opeth's music is heading towards is something I can understand, but by no means is Ghost Reveries a *BAD* album.

and of course the disclaimer stating the obvious; This is my intrepretation of opeth's work and it is also therefore my opinion.

[Darkness]

No, Ghost Reveries is not a bad album. Its just not up to par with the others, the songs go nowhere IMO, and the instrumentation is.. a bit boreing... except the keyboards.

[ElectricalStorm]

I guess I should probably state my bias & backround. My first opeth album was Blackwater Park and I got that in 2002. I would say that and ghost reveries are currently my favorite. As of right now, I do own and have listened to all of opeth's albums.

[Killtacular]

No, Ghost Reveries is not a bad album. Its just not up to par with the others, the songs go nowhere IMO, and the instrumentation is.. a bit boring... except the keyboards.

This one is correct.

[Iron Man]

For me, Ghost Reveries is somewhere in the middle. Not the best, but not bad. Of course, for me, nothing beats Still Life, I doubt anything ever will.

[PIGS(1 different one)]

What does everyone think of Mike's vocals on the Ayreon album Human equation?

I think it is amazing hearing all those artists singing together, I especially like Devin Townsend's vocals, James Labrie is amazing too.

[Killtacular]

I've not heard any of The Human Equation, but I really want to.

[Iron Man]

What does everyone think of Mike's vocals on the Ayreon album Human equation?

I think it is amazing hearing all those artists singing together, I especially like Devin Townsend's vocals, James Labrie is amazing too.

I think they're the best on there, and not just because I'm an Opeth fanboy. They add a dark tone the album needs. However, him and Townsend are the only two vocalists on there that really do anything for me. Now, I like Dream Theater, but I've always found LaBrie to be a bit...soft? whiney? can't really think of the right term, but they never really clicked. And that hurt the album some for me, seeing as he's the main vocalist on there.

[PIGS(1 different one)]

For some reason I enjoyed Labrie a lot more on that album than any Dream Theater album. I guess it's the balancing of good vocalists on there. ;)

[Iron Man]

For some reason I enjoyed Labrie a lot more on that album than any Dream Theater album. I guess it's the balancing of good vocalists on there. ;)

Meh, I never really liked him in Dream Theater, either. But the rest of the band is good enough to keep my attention, even if I don't really like the vocals.

[relliK]

I think MAYH is the first truly good album they made. Orchid is horridly cheesy and sounds plain bad, Morningrise is mediocre to say the most. I mean, there are some good moments, even good songs, but Opeth didn't start making true quality music until midway in their career. Still Life and Blackwater Park were their first true masterpeices, and Ghost Reveries is the third.

I don't understand not liking an album because it's not heavy or technical enough. That's stupid to me.


Oh C'mon.Orchid and Morningrise are masterpieces.If anything, I see MAYH as a step backwards from them.The great thing about both of them is the fact that there are guitar harmonies most of the time, you can choose to listen to only the left channel, the right channel, or both.Each of those show a different identity.Giving both those albums more than one face.

Orchid is possibly one of the best debut cds by any band, ever.

Morningrise is just godly.It has the best acoustic material of Opeth's career.Where is there a better soft song than "To Bid You Farewell"?

[relliK]

Awesome, awesome opener to an awesome, awesome album. :thumb:



Same, I hope this is just a bit of a phase they go through, and return to metal madness on the next cd. :D Its still ok, but man Deliverance & ****ation were just so awesome that this was... not awesome.

I personally thought Ghost Reveries was the natural progression from both those albums, only it had alot more focus and precision.It has alot of the staccato riffs and amazing drumming from Deliverance, as well as the clean vocals, keyboards, and simplified solid melodies from ****ation.

I thought D+D was the weakest point in Opeth's career.****ation came out ok, but Deliverance lacked.IMO Ghost Reveries is much better than both of them.

Personally, Ghost Reveries is one of the heaviest Opeth albums, but at the same time, the softest besides ****ation.One can't deny that the heavy parts on it are possibly the heaviest moments in the bands career.Not to mention the lyrics which have never been so dark and sinister.I get chills while reading the lyrics to The Baying of the Hounds.

Might I add that The Baying of the Hounds continues to own my face.Quite possibly my favorite song at the moment.

[Det_Nosnip]

What does everyone think of Mike's vocals on the Ayreon album Human equation?

I think it is amazing hearing all those artists singing together, I especially like Devin Townsend's vocals, James Labrie is amazing too.

Marcela Bovio, Heather Findlay, and Devon Graves really blew me away on that album. The Human Equation was also what got me into Opeth, as hearing Mikael sing cleanly made me give them another chance and helped me get over the "ooooh growling cookie monster hahaha" phase.

*glances at avatar* Yeah, I've come a long way. :lol:

[ambush]

<3 Ayreon - Day Two (Isolation) The female vocalist in that song is just awesome.

After listening to this CD a million times, I've decided that Ghost of Perdition is definitely one of the most well written songs I've heard in a long time.

[StormRider VS IronMan]

I personally thought Ghost Reveries was the natural progression from both those albums, only it had alot more focus and precision.It has alot of the staccato riffs and amazing drumming from Deliverance, as well as the clean vocals, keyboards, and simplified solid melodies from ****ation.

I thought D+D was the weakest point in Opeth's career.****ation came out ok, but Deliverance lacked.IMO Ghost Reveries is much better than both of them.

Personally, Ghost Reveries is one of the heaviest Opeth albums, but at the same time, the softest besides ****ation.One can't deny that the heavy parts on it are possibly the heaviest moments in the bands career.Not to mention the lyrics which have never been so dark and sinister.I get chills while reading the lyrics to The Baying of the Hounds.

Might I add that The Baying of the Hounds continues to own my face.Quite possibly my favorite song at the moment.

I think that GR is their best album. The lyrics are so dark and beautifull!!
But if iI had to vote for their heviest album then MAYH wins the race
(When and Demon of the Fall come automatically to mind :evil: )

[Deth]

What does everyone think of Mike's vocals on the Ayreon album Human equation?

I think it is amazing hearing all those artists singing together, I especially like Devin Townsend's vocals, James Labrie is amazing too.
What exactly is Ayreon? I almost picked up an album over the weekend dispite not knowing anything about them.

I went with Dredg's new album and DT's Scenes From A Memory though.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

I think that GR is their best album. The lyrics are so dark and beautifull!!
But if iI had to vote for their heviest album then MAYH wins the race
(When and Demon of the Fall come automatically to mind :evil: )

Not to mention the outro of Karma. :p

MAYH, is truly amazing. my fav.

[Deth]

MAYH took a while to really grow on me. Now I really love it, but it was the Opeth album that took the longest for me to truly enjoy.

[i am the robots]

MAYH took a while to really grow on me. Now I really love it, but it was the Opeth album that took the longest for me to truly enjoy.

I enjoyed it the very first time I heard it, but then again, it is heavier than their other stuff (as stated above) and I was graced with listening to the likes of Cryptopsy, Behemoth, Decapitated, Demigod, Lykathea Aflame, Necrophagist, Gorguts, and a bunch of other Brutal/Technical Death Metal bands before I got it 2 months ago :p.

[Deth]

It's not that it was heavier, it just didn't click with me the same way the other albums did.

[i am the robots]

That's because the man in your avatar likes other men.

[Deth]

...

I did say I like it now.

Halford rules.

[StormRider VS IronMan]

Not to mention the outro of Karma. :p

MAYH, is truly amazing. my fav.
Or April Etheral (AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHRRR!!) :thumb:

[Deth]

Yeah, the intro of April Ethereal is one of my favorite intros ever. When the drums kick in, all is right in the world.

[i am the robots]

...

I did say I like it now.

Halford rules.

I know you said that, and I know Halford rules, he's still a homo though.

[StormRider VS IronMan]

I know you said that, and I know Halford rules, he's still a homo though.
You are free to do whatever you want with your d ick

[StormRider VS IronMan]

And he is the metal god!!

[JamJar]

Welcome to the one-and-only Opeth Thread!
So, what do you think of Still Life and Blackwater Park? They're both epic albums. You should save up to get My Arms, Your Hearse next :D But that's just my recommendation. :thumb:

I love SL. The only song which I think is weak is Moonlapse Vertigo. That song just rele doesn't do anything for me. BWP is good, but I just dnt think that its rele on par with SL. It has lots of good moments, but the middle is just so forgetful.

[Shattered_Future]

My day got COMPLETELY depressing today...

I had high hopes of going to the Opeth show last night...even forced myself to stay up to listen to Still Life, which I hadn't listened to all the way through.

I went into school today, and my friend (who wanted to go too) told me that the venue was 18+ ONLY. :evil:

This would've been one of the best concerts ever...Opeth AND Nevermore. And I can't go because I'm only 15. Tis bull****. :angry:

[Deth]

Wow, that sucks. Most venues in the US don't seem to do that.

[jamesclelland]

anyone seen them on this current tour? i got tickets to vancouver and will buy seattle tickets too if there doing a good show.

[Mr. Ron]

Does anyone know if the "singing" after "By the pain I see in others" is in Swedish?

[Iron Man]

Does anyone know if the "singing" after "By the pain I see in others" is in Swedish?

It doesn't sound like it, although I can't really say what it does sound like. :confused:

[Mr. Ron]

It doesn't sound like it, although I can't really say what it does sound like. :confused:
I heard it today when I was reading and I was like, "what the...?"

[Cardboard Headgear]

It's the first clean sung bits in Master's Apprentice reversed.

[Mr. Ron]

It's the first clean sung bits in Master's Apprentice reversed.
Hmmm, strange. Do you know why they did that?

[The Flabbit Rides High]

If anyone here is interested in sampling a band called Anathema, im sending out a megaupload link via email to people interested.

It contains a sampler for 4 albums. 120mb.

If you are interested, put your email up here :http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394705&page=3

Im sending tonight so be quick.

Thanx

[Darkness]

Personally, Ghost Reveries is one of the heaviest Opeth albums, but at the same time, the softest besides ****ation.One can't deny that the heavy parts on it are possibly the heaviest moments in the bands career.Not to mention the lyrics which have never been so dark and sinister.I get chills while reading the lyrics to The Baying of the Hounds.
What? Heaviest album? This is the softest besides D'nation. Even the heavy parts of this album aren't even close to Deliverance or MAYH or BWP. So yes, I do deny that the heavy parts of the album are possibly the heaviest of their career.

[Simon__Thats_All]

So do many of you guys post in Opeth's official forum?

[Kage]

So yes, I do deny that the heavy parts of the album are possibly the heaviest of their career.
:lol: That was really funny for some reason.

I agree that this album isn't really their heaviest, but that's not a bad thing at all, in my mind.

[Simon__Thats_All]

I agree it's not a bad thing. Opeth do the less heavy thing beautifully as well. I love their more melodic stuff.

[Darkness]

And I agree, an album doesn't have to be heavy to be good. I love Damnation, but this was just a boreing album for me.

[FlyingPaul_83]

What Genre are these guys?


Black water park kicks.

[Kage]

I think the best genre to describe them is Progressive Metal.

[anonymousavenger]

I just got Opeth's CD Ghost Reveries, and it is awesome. I also have ****ation, and thats awesome too. These guys are moving up on the 'most played' list on my mp3 player.

[Simon__Thats_All]

Opeth are a difficult band to genreise. It's hard. There's times when they just sound pure black metal, other times they don't sound very black metal at all (just an example.) They say themselves it's hard to put their music in a genre.

[ambush]

I just got Opeth's CD Ghost Reveries, and it is awesome. I also have ****ation, and thats awesome too. These guys are moving up on the 'most played' list on my mp3 player.

Get all their CDs and Opeth will be #1 on your most played list for a year.

[GenuineImitation]

I just got Opeth's CD Ghost Reveries, and it is awesome. I also have ****ation, and thats awesome too. These guys are moving up on the 'most played' list on my mp3 player.


Get Black water park. Its amazing, you wont stop listenening to it.

[anonymousavenger]

Get Black water park. Its amazing, you wont stop listenening to it.

I'll try. I get most of my CD's of this website because I got this deal, but it doesn't have many CD's.

[Simon__Thats_All]

Well get Blackwater Park if you get the opportunity. It's incredible.

[Flynn]

Oh C'mon.Orchid and Morningrise are masterpieces.If anything, I see MAYH as a step backwards from them.The great thing about both of them is the fact that there are guitar harmonies most of the time, you can choose to listen to only the left channel, the right channel, or both.Each of those show a different identity.Giving both those albums more than one face.

Orchid is possibly one of the best debut cds by any band, ever.

Morningrise is just godly.It has the best acoustic material of Opeth's career.Where is there a better soft song than "To Bid You Farewell"?



My thoughts exactly. Most of the people I know that listen to Opeth or know them, can't stand Orchid and Morningrise. To each His Own right? I totally respect that. Here's the way I see it: If you like it, like it, if you don't then don't. The only thing that matters is that you're happy. I'm very happy with Orchid and Morningrise. Both of those albums have changed my life forever.

Yes, Orchid is definately the most revolutionary debut album ever recorded. (IMO) :thumb:
















''Arrival...I saw her shadow in the darkness
Awaiting me like the night awaits the day!
Standing silent, smiling at my presence!
A black candle holds the only light''

[Flynn]

Opeth are a difficult band to genreise. It's hard. There's times when they just sound pure black metal, other times they don't sound very black metal at all (just an example.) They say themselves it's hard to put their music in a genre.



That's why they're Opeth :p

[Darkness]

''Arrival...I saw her shadow in the darkness
Awaiting me like the night awaits the day!
Standing silent, smiling at my presence!
A black candle holds the only light''
Yeah I think Opeths lyrics got better as they went along to... Ghost Reveries lyrics are the best part of the cd IMO.

And yeah, Opeth is hard to classify to one genre... just like you said in the first post. :thumb: But Progressive Metal gets my vote.

[Flynn]

Yeah I think Opeths lyrics got better as they went along to... Ghost Reveries lyrics are the best part of the cd IMO.

And yeah, Opeth is hard to classify to one genre... just like you said in the first post. :thumb: But Progressive Metal gets my vote.


Yeah, I would have to agree on Progressive Death Metal. PDM gets my vote as well.

[ATC]

anyone seen them on this current tour? i got tickets to vancouver and will buy seattle tickets too if there doing a good show.

I have tickets to Vancouver. I have no idea how Fireball Ministry sound though. I'm kinda disappointed that Nevermore aren't coming to the West coast. But oh well, the headlining tour then.

[Flynn]

I'd have to say Opeth's best song writting (Lyrically) would appear on Orchid and Morningrise.

[Deth]

Lyrically, I would say Morningrise or Still Life, but that's a really close race.

[Killtacular]

Yes, Orchid is definately the most revolutionary debut album ever recorded. (IMO)

Yeah, because In the Court of the Crimson King is just pure rubbish. :p

As far as lyrics go, I haven't really pay'd attention to lyrics to give a proper opinion. As for riffs, I say Morningrise wins.

[Flynn]

Lyrically, I would say Morningrise or Still Life, but that's a really close race.



You gotta give props to Morningrise being it's not a Concept Album. But yes, Still Life is a Concept Album, so is My Arms, Your Hearse. It's not a coin toss, MAYH takes the taco! :thumb:

[Flynn]

Yeah, because In the Court of the Crimson King is just pure rubbish. :p

As far as lyrics go, I haven't really pay'd attention to lyrics to give a proper opinion. As for riffs, I say Morningrise wins.


You should really listen to Orchid and read along until you have it down. Then listen to it when you know the lyrics. There's no spaces...It's so beautiful. :D

[Jude]

Lyrically, I think Still Life wins. The story and imagery are just so dark and fantastic and work together perfectly with the music. Some of the rest of the lyrics (BWP for example) are kind of vague and harder to relate to, even if they sound cool.

[Flynn]

Lyrically, Orchid is > then all Opeth's recordings. (IMO)

[Deth]

Orchid is a bit overdone for me. It's oh-so-slightly cheesy, though not in a bad way. Morningrise of course completely slays. The latter day stuff (BWP - D'mation) are good, but not great. GR, I think, has incredible lyrics though.

[Flynn]

Lyrically, I think Still Life wins. The story and imagery are just so dark and fantastic and work together perfectly with the music. Some of the rest of the lyrics (BWP for example) are kind of vague and harder to relate to, even if they sound cool.


Still Life is brilliant, Lyrically. I really like that concept (Although Orchid has my #1 vote)

Blackwater Park has a story. Get the lyrics down and listen to it over and over. (Blackwater Park is best when It's snowing and FREEZING cold - IMO)

[Flynn]

Orchid is a bit overdone for me. It's oh-so-slightly cheesy, though not in a bad way. Morningrise of course completely slays. The latter day stuff (BWP - D'mation) are good, but not great. GR, I think, has incredible lyrics though.



:lol: :lol: :lol: you said Orchid was cheesy
funny stuff

[Deth]

Well, come on the talk of forests, black nights and fog just wears thin. They aren't bad, but you can tell they're the first real lyrics in that vein that Mikeal wrote.

[Flynn]

GR, I think, has incredible lyrics though.

Ghost Reveries has to be my least favorite when is comes down to lyrics in Opeth's history. It seems they tried too hard and didn't even care about lyrics. It's all choppy, if you read the entire album, it doesn't make sense. The worst lyrics ever written by Opeth. (IMO)

[Deth]

It seems they tried too hard and didn't even care about lyrics.
Contradition of the night.

[Flynn]

Well, come on the talk of forests, black nights and fog just wears thin. They aren't bad, but you can tell they're the first real lyrics in that vein that Mikeal wrote.


:lol: It's not brilliant. It's a cliche'

[Flynn]

Contradition of the night.



And...

[Deth]

And you don't seem to notice.

Quit the double posting as well.

Anyway, let's quit arguing. Only 6 weeks till Opeth!

[Txus]

IMO Still Life has the best lyrical content of them all.

[Killtacular]

Blackwater Park has a story. Get the lyrics down and listen to it over and over.

No it doesn't, you filthy liar.

[Flynn]

And you don't seem to notice.

Quit the double posting as well.

Anyway, let's quit arguing. Only 6 weeks till Opeth!

Yes I do.

I reply whenever I want,

Who's arguing?

[Flynn]

No it doesn't, you filthy liar.


Yes it does, open your brain.

[Deth]

My god, seriously, STOP DOUBLE POSTING.

And what's this 'story' in BWP then?

[Flynn]

My god, seriously, STOP DOUBLE POSTING.

And what's this 'story' in BWP then?


Go drink some milk please and shut the hell up. What does it matter, crybaby? I made this thread. I will post whenever I want. (I hardly post)

If you cant' see a story in Blackwater Park, you need to listen harder. Use your imagination. It definately has a story with me, and superb writing helped boost that. :cool:

[Flynn]

Contradition of the night.



Seriously, where are you going with this? ohhhhh I see, you're very random? ADD? It's all good ;) Please explain to me what the h*** you're talking about now. TY. :D

[Jude]

If you cant' see a story in Blackwater Park, you need to listen harder. Use your imagination. It definately has a story with me, and superb writing helped boost that. :cool:
Care to explain what the story in BWP is?

[Flynn]

Care to explain what the story in BWP is?

You don't know either!?





EDIT: I better not Double Post, Creeping_Deth will throw a sissy-fit.

[Killtacular]

There isn't one, so he can't.

[Jude]

You don't know either!?



You're the only one, buddy. Enlighten us.

[Flynn]

I'm a George Michael fan :lol:


Basically the entire album (IMO) is about the future government. Someone sees something they're doing and eventually, at the end...Everything dies. It's his Documentation. Read the lyrics sometime. Reading is helpful ;)

[Killtacular]

In your opinion, eh? Well then, that's not definitive that it has a storyline, is it?

[Flynn]

In your opinion, eh? Well then, that's not definitive that it has a storyline, is it?


What do you think it is?

[Killtacular]

I don't think it's anything, because there's no storyline there. Occasionally, a bunch of unrelated songs are put onto an album with no interlocking theme.

[Simon__Thats_All]

Surely not..

[Killtacular]

Your avatar sickens me. Kudos.
:thumb:

[Simon__Thats_All]

I think it's fantastic :D

[Darkness]

What do you think it is?
Theres no real story there, if you think theres one, then its in your head. Mikeal himself has stated that only MAYH, Still Life and Ghost Reveries have a concept. BWP has awesome lyrics though, he paints a wonderful picture for us. :thumb:

[relliK]

What? Heaviest album? This is the softest besides D'nation. Even the heavy parts of this album aren't even close to Deliverance or MAYH or BWP. So yes, I do deny that the heavy parts of the album are possibly the heaviest of their career.

Well, as Flynn said.To each his own.I never said it was the heaviest, I said it was one of the heaviest.IMO Deliverance remains as the heaviest.You're crazy if you think the heavy parts dont come close to the albums you listed.

I suppose the beginning of GoP, or it at about 6:30 isnt heavy.

The Baying of the Hounds at 6:00 at an almost symphonic BM moment, not heavy at all.

The first verse on Beneath the Mire, the final part of Harlequin Forest, The Grand Conjuration.All pussy **** huh?

Again, you're crazy.

[relliK]

My thoughts exactly. Most of the people I know that listen to Opeth or know them, can't stand Orchid and Morningrise. To each His Own right? I totally respect that. Here's the way I see it: If you like it, like it, if you don't then don't. The only thing that matters is that you're happy. I'm very happy with Orchid and Morningrise. Both of those albums have changed my life forever.

Yes, Orchid is definately the most revolutionary debut album ever recorded. (IMO) :thumb:
















''Arrival...I saw her shadow in the darkness
Awaiting me like the night awaits the day!
Standing silent, smiling at my presence!
A black candle holds the only light''

I personally get annoyed when someone says that both those albums suck or arent as good as the newer stuff.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to say they dont match the newer stuff is just ignorant.They are in many ways even better than the newer stuff.I wish people would get past the production on them to see that.

Might I add, I find the production on them to be great.I'm happy with an album's production as long as I can hear all the music.It comes in crystal clear on both albums.Really, its just the vocals that sound a bit off.They sound dry, and have lots of reverb.Either way, I wouldnt change a thing about them.

[Slapping Penguin]

Well Orchid is amazing. Period.

[Simon__Thats_All]

Your avatar is amazing also.

[lost_profits]

MAYH or Still Life for lyrics.

[One Step Beyond]

Well Opeth is amazing. Period.
Fix'd.

[Slapping Penguin]

Hahah indeed

[Jude]

Basically the entire album (IMO) is about the future government. Someone sees something they're doing and eventually, at the end...Everything dies. It's his Documentation. Read the lyrics sometime. Reading is helpful ;)

Um....

[the2stranger]

stop the aguing people

we all have our right to have opinions, and yes I see a story in BWP as well,.
I don't care if Mikeal intended it to be a concept album or not, I see a very nice story in it.

now let us all smoke the peace pipe :smoke:

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Here's the thing I noticed about Ghost Reveries:

Its a completely new direction the band is going in. I mean, come on people, you really expect them to make another BWP or MorningRise? We are all musicians (most of us, I think?)...who wants to play the same **** over and over? Am I dissapointed in the album...yeah, a little, I was really expecting more harder stuff. Granted, Ghost of Perdition is a BAD *** song, I just wish there was more like it on the album. Do I dislike them for it? of course not! They are going in the direction they deem fit for them.

The great things I noted for the album, as someone else mentioned, was the production. It is pretty **** good and the song structures are a lot more complicated. You can really tell how they have all improved as musicians from their 3 year hiatus. Most notably, Lopez' drumming is absolutely amazing!!!!

Well...that's my take

[ElectricalStorm]

I stated similar thoughts on the new album and opeth's new direction a few pages back. I'm not at all dissappointed though, I love the album.

And although we shouldn't argue there should definitely be some debate/discussion. There's really a fine line between debating/discussing and arguing, but it debating really boils down to arguing while still maintaining an open mind and respect for everyone elses opinion.

My thoughts:
Not many people know about opeth, and certainly not many know opeth as intimately as most people in this thread--so why not add some depth to it through discussion? Are you people satisfied with just skimming the surface of everything this band deals with the comments like "Black Rose Immortal is sooo awesome". I know I'm not. I want to see a differing viewpoints and a variety of perspectives on music that I'm familar with and think I already know. I want to better explore the multiple facets that this band offers and I think this would be a great place for that.

[One Step Beyond]

Not many people know about opeth
Actually, they are very popular. When I went to SOTU, I saw more people there wearing Opeth gear than I did for any other band. That is very surprising considering that bands like Gwar, Lamb of God, and Unearth were there.

[Kage]

Actually, they are very popular. When I went to SOTU, I saw more people there wearing Opeth gear than I did for any other band. That is very surprising considering that bands like Gwar, Lamb of God, and Unearth were there.
Within the metal/musician community they've become popular, but outside of that subculture they're not all that popular.

[One Step Beyond]

That's true. Why is that? Opeth are not amazingly technical or anything, and there are plenty of other bands with more complex writing. What about Opeth attracts musicians so much? For me, I think it's the atmosphere and mixed aggression/sadness they have, which has nothing to do with intricate musicianship.

[bucket]

That's true. Why is that? Opeth are not amazingly technical or anything, and there are plenty of other bands with more complex writing. What about Opeth attracts musicians so much? For me, I think it's the atmosphere and mixed aggression/sadness they have, which has nothing to do with intricate musicianship.

Maybe because some musicians like technicallity more than anything, so they listen to their wide variety of technically skilled bands while other musicians (us) like the songwritting and atmosphere that Opeth creates so easily.

[Darkness]

Well, as Flynn said.To each his own.I never said it was the heaviest, I said it was one of the heaviest.IMO Deliverance remains as the heaviest.You're crazy if you think the heavy parts dont come close to the albums you listed.

I suppose the beginning of GoP, or it at about 6:30 isnt heavy.

The Baying of the Hounds at 6:00 at an almost symphonic BM moment, not heavy at all.

The first verse on Beneath the Mire, the final part of Harlequin Forest, The Grand Conjuration.All pussy **** huh?

Again, you're crazy.
Why are those parts heavy? Because of the growling? I don't find the guitars or drums THAT heavy at all, but ofcourse its still pretty heavy, just not as heavy as the albums I stated before. IMO ofcourse, everybody has a different opinion of what heavy is.

[ambush]

Who cares about how "heavy" it is if it sounds good? If you don't like an album because it's not heavy enough for you, you shouldn't be listening to Opeth anyway because thier music is both heavy and soft, angry and sad, etc.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Who cares about how "heavy" it is if it sounds good? If you don't like an album because it's not heavy enough for you, you shouldn't be listening to Opeth anyway because thier music is both heavy and soft, angry and sad, etc.
Eh...yes and no.

Opeth IS Metal and Metal IS heavy, that's how its always been. To go from the contrast of Deliverance (with Deliverance, Wreath, Master's Apprentice) and BWP (Leper Affinity, BWP, Bleak) to this album is a big thing. I never said it didn't sound good, only that I wish it could have been heavier. Yes, it is stupid to not like an album because its not "heavy", but anyone who has listened to Orchid to Deliverance that with the exception of ****ation, Opeth is a heavy band. Yes, they do combine elements of Prog and Folk even with their music, which is why we love them so much and that they can appeal to a larger audience.

Don't be so quick to say that you shouldn't listen to Opeth because some of us expected more metal. Its just taking some getting used to, that's all. GR is a good album, but its no BWP :p

[ambush]

Eh...yes and no.

Opeth IS Metal and Metal IS heavy, that's how its always been. To go from the contrast of Deliverance (with Deliverance, Wreath, Master's Apprentice) and BWP (Leper Affinity, BWP, Bleak) to this album is a big thing. I never said it didn't sound good, only that I wish it could have been heavier. Yes, it is stupid to not like an album because its not "heavy", but anyone who has listened to Orchid to Deliverance that with the exception of ****ation, Opeth is a heavy band. Yes, they do combine elements of Prog and Folk even with their music, which is why we love them so much and that they can appeal to a larger audience.

Don't be so quick to say that you shouldn't listen to Opeth because some of us expected more metal. Its just taking some getting used to, that's all. GR is a good album, but its no BWP :p

I'm not gonna go count or anything (although.. it might be somewhat entertaining) but I'd be willing to bet that BWP and GR have about the same amount of clean passages throughout. I'm guessing that the clean passages/songs take away from the "heaviness" of the entire album, so that's what I'm making the connection between the two CDs with. Both CDs have 8 songs, GR has 2 entirely soft ones, BWP has 2. I don't think heaviness has anything to do with your (referring to all who are iffy about GR) liking or disliking of GR, it's just that BWP has better, more memorable riffs, more epic songs, and kicks a lot more *** in general (like you said in your last sentence.. kind of).

[Darkness]

Who cares about how "heavy" it is if it sounds good? If you don't like an album because it's not heavy enough for you, you shouldn't be listening to Opeth anyway because thier music is both heavy and soft, angry and sad, etc.
I don't think it sounds that good. Heaviness would have added to its goodness IMO. And more acoustics.

[ambush]

I don't think it sounds that good. Heaviness would have added to its goodness IMO. And more acoustics.

Oh, well. I guess Opeth isn't hXc enough for you anymore. Sad day.

[Darkness]

Oh, well. I guess Opeth isn't hXc enough for you anymore. Sad day.
Guess so. :rolleyes:

[ambush]

Guess so. :rolleyes:

Am I wrong? If "heaviness adds to its goodness" then Opeth's supposed lack of heaviness makes them less good, therefore not good enough? I don't know about you, but I'm banging my head a lot during songs like Ghost of Perdition and Baying of the Hounds.

[Flynn]

I don't think it sounds that good. Heaviness would have added to its goodness IMO. And more acoustics.


I agree...Yeah, I haven't listened to it in several days. I have been listening to a lot of Deliverance though. :D

[Flynn]

Am I wrong? If "heaviness adds to its goodness" then Opeth's supposed lack of heaviness makes them less good, therefore not good enough?



Actually, if it makes you feel good, do it. :cool: You may love Ghost Reveries, and you are definately going to run into people that don't care for it. It's all opinion based, really. You can't change someone's taste by stating what you think as a fact. Here's my opinion:

Ghost Reveries isn't as heavy as I would of liked it to be. Although, there are some nice heavy riffs, the album, as a whole, is lacking a lot of lethality, both musically and lyrically. It almost seems as if it was ''rushed'' to get it out ASAP. There is quite a bit of singing on this album as well, nothing wrong with that, but too much is too much. It almost seems that Akerfeldt still has D@mnation on his mind.

I do like this album, not compared to other recordings of Opeth though. It's missing ''something'' and I can't describe what that is. :upset:

Of course, that is all my opinion. ;)

[ambush]

Actually, if it makes you feel good, do it. :cool: You may love Ghost Reveries, and you are definately going to run into people that don't care for it. It's all opinion based, really. You can't change someone's taste by stating what you think as a fact. Here's my opinion:

Ghost Reveries isn't as heavy as I would of liked it to be. Although, there are some nice heavy riffs, the album, as a whole, is lacking a lot of lethality, both musically and lyrically. It almost seems as if it was ''rushed'' to get it out ASAP. There is quite a bit of singing on this album as well, nothing wrong with that, but too much is too much. It almost seems that Akerfeldt still has D@mnation on his mind.

I do like this album, not compared to other recordings of Opeth though. It's missing ''something'' and I can't describe what that is. :upset:

Of course, that is all my opinion. ;)

I never said I loved GR, I'm just saying that his overbearing reason for not liking the CD is because of some overused adjective. I agree, GR doesn't measure up to anything Opeth has done in the past, it's missing something. But the CD is not "not heavy", it's just different Opeth, that's all.

[Flynn]

I never said I loved GR, I'm just saying that his overbearing reason for not liking the CD is because of some overused adjective. I agree, GR doesn't measure up to anything Opeth has done in the past, it's missing something. But the CD is not "not heavy", it's just different Opeth, that's all.


I really think it's their lightest album.

[ambush]

I really think it's their lightest album.

Even so, it's still not light. You're dancing around the fact that this is a metal CD. It's still heavy. :lol:

[Flynn]

It's still heavy. :lol:


And if you think that, it's cool. :cool: Maybe you're the type of Opeth listener that likes the softer side of them. That's totally understandable. I do respect that. :thumb:

[ambush]

And if you think that, it's cool. :cool: Maybe you're the type of Opeth listener that likes the softer side of them. That's totally understandable. I do respect that. :thumb:

Wow.. don't get ignorant on me now. You're putting words in my mouth. My comment had nothing to do with the soft side of Opeth, I said that the album was heavy, I certainly wasn't referring to the soft sections.

But growling has no correlation with being heavy?

All I can do now is laugh and leave with less respect for you. How ridiculous.

[Flynn]

Wow.. don't get ignorant on me now. You're putting words in my mouth. My comment had nothing to do with the soft side of Opeth, I said that the album was heavy, I certainly wasn't referring to the soft sections.

But growling has no correlation with being heavy?

All I can do now is laugh and leave with less respect for you. How ridiculous.



Dude, shut up already. I wasn't being sarcastic. That is ALL YOUR OPINION, why force it? You're really annoying. You want people to just agree with everything you say, I can see that in your posts. Then when things don't do your way, and no one agrees with you, you get voilent and start degrating people using sly remarks. I think Ghost Reveries is light, if you got a problem with that, then go build a go-kart with your ex landlord. :wave:






''Take medication for that anger problem
then you will realize you have always been worthless
not because of your anger - because you're a nobody''

[Darkness]

Agreed, shut up man. I happen to love Opeths soft side, as much as I love their heavy side. Damnation is one of my favorites. But after that album, I want something a bit heavy sounding. This was a decent album but it lacked that certain 'something' Flynn already described. Drop it now, you like the album, we don't (to an extent). Don't argue with it, your not going to change our opinions.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Hahaha @ this argument. I like the little quote at the end.

[Flynn]

I like rainbows :)

[ambush]

:lol: I can't get enough of this. I could care less if you don't like the CD, again, I'm not a huge fan of it. My problem is that your opinion contradicts itself. You don't like light music, and yet, you listen to Opeth, half of which is light.

Wow.. :lol:

[Darkness]

I just think the album was poorly written, the lack of good riffs really doesn't agree with me. Just because I like soft music doesn't meen that I like every soft peice of music. Same goes with heavy.

Forget it, your obviously a moron. Take note of who has the second most posts in this thread, then tell me that I don't like Opeth. They wouldn't be my second favorite band if I only liked half their material. Come to think of it, the ballads are probably my favorite songs next to Ghost of Peridition.

[Flynn]

I just think the album was poorly written, the lack of good riffs really doesn't agree with me. Just because I like soft music doesn't meen that I like every soft peice of music. Same goes with heavy.

Yeah exactly. I fully agree with you on this one.




You don't like light music, and yet, you listen to Opeth, half of which is light.

Wow..

Do me a favor, go to the first page of this thread and read up to where we are now. You are making yourself look like a fool. While you're reading a lot of what you missed, find a post from me that says I don't like light music.

-Thanks-

[ambush]

Take note of who has the second most posts in this thread, then tell me that I don't like Opeth. They wouldn't be my second favorite band if I only liked half their material. Come to think of it, the ballads are probably my favorite songs next to Ghost of Peridition.

Thank you for making my point. :thumb:

Anyways, I'd love to continue talking with you gentlemen, but I have to goto my girlfriend's Honors Induction Ceremony. Have a nice day. :wave:

[Darkness]

Then why were you aruging with us? We've said that from the start. We love soft and heavy music, but this album just didn't sit with us.

Have fun. :rolleyes:

[Flynn]

Then why were you aruging with us? We've said that from the start. We love soft and heavy music, but this album just didn't sit with us.

Have fun. :rolleyes:



It's all good, :D

[Deth]

All right, let's talk about something positive.

Discuss how freaking amazing the song BWP is.

NP: Epilogue

[Simon__Thats_All]

I'm still not over The Drapery Falls. Who's got the Opeth DVD? Is it as good as I imagine it would be?

[GiB]

I wanna order the Lamentations DVD is it any good?

[Deth]

I wanna order the Lamentations DVD is it any good?
:lol: Two posts in a row on that, what the odds?

It's really good. If you don't like ****ation, don't bother, but if you do it's fantastic. The documentary is great and the live performance can't be beat.

[token complaint]Of course it only has stuff of BWP and D&D.[/token complaint]

[Flynn]

I'm still not over The Drapery Falls. Who's got the Opeth DVD? Is it as good as I imagine it would be?



It's decent, well worth your cash.

[Deth]

If they played BWP on the DVD, I would probably like it a lot more.

NP: The Drapery Falls
Good old shuffle feature

[Simon__Thats_All]

I think I'll get it off the net, it'll be a long time before I see it in an Australian music store I think. Especially in my town.

[Flynn]

I think I'll get it off the net, it'll be a long time before I see it in an Australian music store I think. Especially in my town.


I know what ya mean, I live in Iowa...my main music store is 80% rap.
It used to be 80% metal. But now it's all a bunch of crap rap.

[Darkness]

If they played BWP on the DVD, I would probably like it a lot more.

NP: The Drapery Falls
Good old shuffle feature
Agreed, it would be perfect if it had BWP. At least we have The Leper Affinity. :thumb:

[Dannyboy15]

I know what ya mean, I live in Iowa...my main music store is 80% rap.
It used to be 80% metal. But now it's all a bunch of crap rap.

Ha! That reminds me of that movie whiteboyz.

[The Cynic]

Does anybody know the official tuning for GR? Is it in Drop-D or One Step Below? I've managed to figure out some parts but others don't sound right.

[bucket]

GoP is in DADFAD and I believe Reverie is DADFAE.

It's not set in one tuning the entire album.

[DaveTheAmazing]

yo opeth fans im a new opeth fan tell me their greatest hits bitches

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

This is very subjective...

The Moor
Godhead Lament
Blackwater Park
The Drapery Falls
The Lepper Affinity
Bleak
Deliverance
Harlequin
Atonement

[Kage]

This is very subjective...

The Moor
Godhead Lament
Blackwater Park
The Drapery Falls
The Lepper Affinity
Bleak
Deliverance
Harlequin
Atonement
That'd pretty much be my list as well :) (plus Face of Melinda, of course)

[Simon__Thats_All]

Black Rose Immortal

[Mr. Ron]

I need a HUGEEEE favor.

Will someone please, please, please send me My arms your herse over AIM???


It will be greatly appreciated since I can not find it ANYWHERE. I've been looking for a long time.

AIM: Bitterseason13

[ambush]

I need a HUGEEEE favor.

Will someone please, please, please send me My arms your herse over AIM???


It will be greatly appreciated since I can not find it ANYWHERE. I've been looking for a long time.

AIM: Bitterseason13

It says you're unavailable. :(

[Mr. Ron]

It says you're unavailable. :(
I'm on now.

[Simon__Thats_All]

I saw My Arms Your Hearse in one of the funky round metal tin case things, for $10 more than normal. I didn't have it yet, so I bought it. It came with a free sticker. Once I got home I thought more carefully about it, and I'm not so sure it was a wise decision getting that version. Because (apart from being a massively cool case) it 1) doesn't fit in my CD rack, and 2) didn't come with the booklet a CD normally has in the front cover. I don't think it was worth the extra $10. On the other hand that's the only time I've ever seen that CD in store.

[Jude]

yo opeth fans im a new opeth fan tell me their greatest hits bitches

.....To Bid You Farewell
Black Rose Immortal
The Moor
Face of Melinda
The Drapery Falls
Bleak
Master's Apprentices
Death Whispered a Lullaby
To Rid The Disease
Isolation Years
Ghost of Perdition
The Grand Conjuration

These are about my favorites.

[Simon__Thats_All]

yo opeth fans im a new opeth fan tell me their greatest hits bitches
Also, for a different taste of Opeth, get Patterns in the Ivy and Patterns in the Ivy II (I know I tell everyone this, but I love them)

[ZEROthirtythree]

I can't believe the show in VA is sold out.

I am so angry!!!!

:mad:

[Panvium]

I can't believe the show in VA is sold out.

I am so angry!!!!

:mad:

So am I.
But I'm going to the lamb of god concert in richmond on november 27th

[ambush]

I can't believe the show in VA is sold out.

I am so angry!!!!

:mad:

You're giving up that easily? There's always Ebay, buyselltix.com, ticketsnow.com, stubhub.com, etc.

[Jude]

Also, for a different taste of Opeth, get Patterns in the Ivy and Patterns in the Ivy II (I know I tell everyone this, but I love them)

Can you YSI me Patterns in The Ivy II? Actually, can someone with all Opeth's bonus tracks send them to me? I only have the two from MAYH.

[ambush]

Can you YSI me Patterns in The Ivy II? Actually, can someone with all Opeth's bonus tracks send them to me? I only have the two from MAYH.

Email address for pavor.

[Jude]

Email address for pavor.
Sorry, Mistergroovy1023@gmail.com

[ambush]

S'all good.

[Simon__Thats_All]

I wouldn't mind the bonus tracks either if they're going. Patterns II is the only one I've got.

[Deth]

I can't believe the show in VA is sold out.

I am so angry!!!!

:mad:
That's what happens when you sit around.

*Got tickets first day they were available :cool:*

[Kage]

That's what happens when you sit around.

*Got tickets first day they were available :cool:*
Right on :cool:

[Jude]

*checks email*

*is happy*

Anyone have any of the other bonus tracks? I have the two from MAYH and now from BWP but I remember some others such as Eternal Soul Torture, Into the Frost of Winter, etc.

[Deth]

I believe I have every Opeth bonus track. My favorite is probable the cover of Remember Tomorrow.

[Simon__Thats_All]

ted_e_bare_69r@hotmail.com is anyone's doing uploads of bonus tracks I'd love some... :)

[Jude]

I believe I have every Opeth bonus track. My favorite is probable the cover of Remember Tomorrow.
Who's the original by?

[Deth]

Are you kidding?

IRON F'ING MAIDEN BABY!

[Jude]

Are you kidding?

IRON F'ING MAIDEN BABY!

/isn't a metalhead in any way, shape or form

The only metal bands I listen to are Sabbath, Van Halen, Rage Against the Machine, Rammstein, In Flames, and Opeth (in chrononological order). I like a half dozen Metallica songs, a couple Maiden and Priest songs, and scattered metal songs here and there, and that's about the extent of it.

[Deth]

Alright, I forgive you...just.

Maiden are my 3rd favorite band after Opeth and PT, so I get aggressive.