Opeth

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I actually think that Dirge is the weakest track on the album. It's still great, but I think the other tracks are much better.

Im not alone then

My least favourite is bleak I just cannot get into it.


Im really not agreeing much with you tonight :p

Just to help me out guys, how much have you seen the live DVD around for? I want to avoid being ripped off on Saturday

[i am the robots]

I saw it for like $10.00 at FYE, but it was on Sale at the time.

[Darkness]

I got it for 20 bucks Canadain...

[Rothmans]

Im really not agreeing much with you tonight :p

Just to help me out guys, how much have you seen the live DVD around for? I want to avoid being ripped off on Saturday
Ah we both love Still Life and when I was in england I got it for 20 pounds.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Im hoping to pick that up, with Deliverance, and another album (probably million dead), and use my £5 off £35 purchases voucher. So £20 sounds ok.

[Rothmans]

Im hoping to pick that up, with Deliverance, and another album (probably million dead), and use my £5 off £35 purchases voucher. So £20 sounds ok.
You will probably get it for cheaper nowadays.

[Grey Incision]

My least favourite is bleak I just cannot get into it.

I e-slap you sir :angry:



but eh, whatever floats your boat i suppose, a lot of people love drapery, but i quite dislike it..............and the grnad conjuration is a big let down, Opeth is dead:( this new band is still very good, i quite like them, but Opeth is dead, it will never be what it used to be, the last 3 albums have become increasingly less complex.

[The Cynic]

I guess I can put this here...

Well, I'm gonna get another Opeth Cd but I only have enough to get one, and the only ones I don't have are MAYH and Orchid. So, any suggestions what I should get first? Thanks.

[Lateralias]

I e-slap you sir :angry:



but eh, whatever floats your boat i suppose, a lot of people love drapery, but i quite dislike it..............and the grnad conjuration is a big let down, Opeth is dead:( this new band is still very good, i quite like them, but Opeth is dead, it will never be what it used to be, the last 3 albums have become increasingly less complex.

You've heard a crappy quality track from a whole album.. please don't base your decision on that track and it's quality.. You should at least wait til' you hear it all man. Opeth isn't dead.

[Maneatingbrick]

Wee im seeing opeth in september \m/ so very exited.

[Det_Nosnip]

Oh YEAH!?

Well I'm seeing them in 2 weeks. *shakes*

[Lateralias]

Dangit.. I have yet to see Opeth live... but even if I saw then on SotU they'd have a small set most likely.

[Darkness]

I'm seeing them in 2 days less then a month. :P

[Flynn]

My least favourite is bleak I just cannot get into it.


Are you F*&^% ING KIDDING ME!? :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[Det_Nosnip]

Dangit.. I have yet to see Opeth live... but even if I saw then on SotU they'd have a small set most likely.

Yeah, that's where I'm seeing them. I'm afraid of that, but then again there's this formula I've been using lately that's helped me out alot:

Short Opeth set = better than no Opeth set.

Plus, I'd love to see Strapping Young Lad.

[Darkness]

Yeah, that's where I'm seeing them. I'm afraid of that, but then again there's this formula I've been using lately that's helped me out alot:

Short Opeth set = better than no Opeth set.

Plus, I'd love to see Strapping Young Lad.
I feel the exact way, even about Strapping Young Lad.

[i am the robots]

Ah we both love Still Life and when I was in england I got it for 20 pounds.

HAHA! I got it for $15 American

[Lateralias]

I've been meaning to check out Strapping Young Lad... I need song recommendations badly though.

[Det_Nosnip]

Hmm...My knowledge of the band tends to be more focused on the last 2 albums, other than what's on the DVD (which rules, btw..."For Those Aboot[Canadians] to Rock" ).
Off of the new album, "Alien," "Love?" Is a pretty awesome tune, which they actually made a video for that can be seen here:
http://mp4.centurymedia.com/LOVEhigh.ram
http://mp4.centurymedia.com/LOVElow.ram (for slowpokes ;) )

"Devour" is a pretty popular tune among SYL fans, and it rules.
http://mp3.centurymedia.com/SYL_Devour_SYL.mp3
"Relentless"
http://mp3.centurymedia.com/StrappingYoungLad_Relentless_SYL.mp3

"****storm" is a pretty good example of how insane the band can be...(replace **** with "****")
http://mp4.centurymedia.com/audio/syl_****storm.mp3
All Hail the New Flesh:
http://mp3.centurymedia.com/StrappingYoungLad_City_AllHailTheNewFlesh.mp3

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So today, I downloaded a powertab for Dirge For November. I'm having slight difficulties navigating some of the chord changes, but hopefully I'll be able to throw down a recording of it for fun. I'm still trying to perfect the intro, but overall, it sounds very sexy. :cool:

NP: Bleak- The only part I don't like is the acoustic slides in the intro. I'm sure they were meant to sound discordant, but to me, they just kind of sound quirky and funny. Other than that, I find it to be a rather solid track.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

The last Opeth setlist I saw went like this

The Drapery Falls
Deliverance
Demon of the Fall

30minute set.

Thats bullshiiit.....I don't go for 3 songs.

My concert was like 10-11 songs.

[Lateralias]

The last Opeth setlist I saw went like this

The Drapery Falls
Deliverance
Demon of the Fall

30minute set.

Thats bullshiiit.....I don't go for 3 songs.

My concert was like 10-11 songs.

Dang that sucks... I might wait for a normal Opeth tour.. well at least they play DotF

Holy crap.. thanks a bunch for the Strapping Young Lad Ted (that is your name right?)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

:eek: An '01er!

Was that all you went to the concert for, or what other bands played? Man, you got hosed on that deal. :-/

[Lateralias]

:eek: An '01er!

Was that all you went to the concert for, or what other bands played? Man, you got hosed on that deal. :-/

Opeth our part of the Sounds of the Underground tour at the moment.. the other bands really are mainly hardcore/metalcore bands it seems like. But Devildriver seems alright with me, and I think I'm alright with Strapping Young Lad so far :) .

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh ok, now I get why they only played 3 songs. :p

I'm sure this has been asked like a million times here lately, but is there any news on their new album? It's called Ghost Reveries, right?

[Darkness]

Yeah, have you heard the new song?

Oh and I think the acoustics in the intro to Bleak are the best part of the song. :p

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ohh yeah, I heard about the new song, but I haven't heard it. I saw a link to it, but it was 320 kbps, and I figured the song was long, so that combo would not be too 56k-friendly. :shrug: So is there a release date or anything yet? I assume they're close if they've already released a song.

[Lateralias]

I do like the broken chords in Bleak..

Jake it is set for September I'm pretty sure.

[Darkness]

The song is only like 9:55, I don't know why the file size is so big. The quality sucks to.

[Lateralias]

Yeah.. kinda wish I never listened to it because of the quality.. hearing it first time in CD quality would've gave me a better impression but I like it none the less! :thumb: Remember.. they are aiming for a heavy album on this release :)

[Det_Nosnip]

Dang that sucks... I might wait for a normal Opeth tour.. well at least they play DotF

Holy crap.. thanks a bunch for the Strapping Young Lad Ted (that is your name right?)

Yep, and no problem. My name's rather easy to figure out...just reverse my username! ;)

[Det_Nosnip]

You know you're on an Opeth thread when:

The song is only like 9:55

[Lateralias]

Alright cool, thanks again! I'm liking Devour.

And about the song being only being 9:55.. :lol:

[Darkness]

:D you bet.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It's crappy because it was recorded from a radio, I think. :-/

I've been noticing that when I buy cd's, I'm dissapointed when they only amount to 45 minutes. I've been purchasing albums that have all been over the 60 minute mark lately. Tool albums, BWP, Renegades, and other prog stuff. Go me!

[Lateralias]

It's crappy because it was recorded from a radio, I think. :-/

I've been noticing that when I buy cd's, I'm dissapointed when they only amount to 45 minutes. I've been purchasing albums that have all been over the 60 minute mark lately. Tool albums, BWP, Renegades, and other prog stuff. Go me!

More bang for your buck :D

[Det_Nosnip]

Meh...quality over quantity. Of course, you can always have both, but #1 comes first for me.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Yep, and no problem. My name's rather easy to figure out...just reverse my username! ;)

Ted Pinson aye?

[lost_profits]

Dirge and Funeral Portrait turn me off the latter half of 'BWP'. If BWP consisted of:

Leper
Bleak
Harvest
Drapery
Patterns
Blackwater

it would be a perfect album.

[Dannyboy15]

Dirge and Funeral Portrait turn me off the latter half of 'BWP'. If BWP consisted of:

Leper
Bleak
Harvest
Drapery
Patterns
Blackwater

it would be a perfect album.

Dirge is beautiful. What is wrong with you!

[bball_1523]

I do like the broken chords in Bleak..

Jake it is set for September I'm pretty sure.

what are the broken chords in bleak?

I like long albums too even though I prefer quality too. For example, some of Symphony X's albums are just too short, and their songs are so incredible that I wish they lasted for 10 min at least, or the album had like 15 songs instead of like 8 or 9.

[lost_profits]

And the same applies for MAYH

The first half is a blistering assault of perfect metal--

April
When
Madrigal
Demon
Credence
Epilogue

For me, Karma and Amen Corner don't seem as focused.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

And the same applies for MAYH

The first half is a blistering assault of perfect metal--

April
When
Madrigal
Demon
Credence
Epilogue

For me, Karma and Amen Corner don't seem as focused.

Amen Corner is incredible...Madrigal+Amen Corner is how the album was meant to be listened to.
Karma is hated by the band themselves.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Meh...quality over quantity. Of course, you can always have both, but #1 comes first for me.

Yes, and the bands that can combine both are the ones that have become my faves.

Tool
Porcupine Tree
Opeth(new found fave)

And many more, but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head at 11pm. :p

bbal-I think he was reffering to the chords at the intro of Bleak, where they sound almost carnival-esque, if you will. :p

Ted- :lol: I wish I had thought of something cool like that for my name.

Ekaj Nirvaw

:eek: I never realized how close my last name backwards resembles nirvana.

[i am the robots]

Amen Corner is incredible...Madrigal+Amen Corner is how the album was meant to be listened to.
Karma is hated by the band themselves.

Especially by Martin Mendez, it's his least favorite of their songs.

[Grey Incision]

You've heard a crappy quality track from a whole album.. please don't base your decision on that track and it's quality.. You should at least wait til' you hear it all man. Opeth isn't dead.

no, if you read my post carefully, i said the last 3 albums have been progressing that way, they are still called Opeth, but to me, it is a very different band to the one that made MAYH and Still Life. The imagination doesn't seem to be there anymore. I know D & D were rushed, but even still, they are very fine albums in their own respect, the fact that this was not rushed, and yet it still sounds similar in fashion to D & D is a testament to the fact that perhaps Mike is moving towards something else? Yes it still is Opeth, but to me, Opeth was MAYH and Still Life, even Orchids and Morningrise.

So before you have a shot at me for judging the band to early, be aware, this is my opinion, Opeth won't be what it used to be.

[ambush]

Dirge and Funeral Portrait turn me off the latter half of 'BWP'. If BWP consisted of:

Leper
Bleak
Harvest
Drapery
Patterns
Blackwater

it would be a perfect album.

The Funeral Portrait rox my sox. That's the headbangingist song on that album (not nearly the best song, but it's still awesome).

[Lateralias]

no, if you read my post carefully, i said the last 3 albums have been progressing that way, they are still called Opeth, but to me, it is a very different band to the one that made MAYH and Still Life. The imagination doesn't seem to be there anymore. I know D & D were rushed, but even still, they are very fine albums in their own respect, the fact that this was not rushed, and yet it still sounds similar in fashion to D & D is a testament to the fact that perhaps Mike is moving towards something else? Yes it still is Opeth, but to me, Opeth was MAYH and Still Life, even Orchids and Morningrise.

So before you have a shot at me for judging the band to early, be aware, this is my opinion, Opeth won't be what it used to be.

Alright.. if that's your verdict. I agree with you that older albums seem to be a bit more complex and maybe more focused.. but Opeth is far from dead.. that is the main thing that bothered me with your post.

[slappindabass]

The Funeral Portrait rox my sox. That's the headbangingist song on that album (not nearly the best song, but it's still awesome).

That's the first song I heard by them. I hated screaming/growling and that stuff at that point, but that song got me hooked. I love the 2nd (of 3) solo in that song. Then I bought BWP and saw what Opeth really is, with all the soft stuff, and I was convinced of their greatness.

[Darkness]

Especially by Martin Mendez, it's his least favorite of their songs.
No: "Least favourite Opeth track: Dirge for november"

Ripped from the site.

Your thinking of Lopez.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

No: "Least favourite Opeth track: Dirge for november"

Ripped from the site.

Your thinking of Lopez.

I love Dirge...jesus.

Its fun as hell to play, and its a very unique song from Opeth.
It doesn't sound like a lot of the Damnation material or other acoustic parts they have done.

I don't know.....it just strikes a chord with me (pun fully intended)

[Taste_My_Scythe]

I actually don't think I've heard it.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

I actually don't think I've heard it.

Its on Blackwater Park

who hasn't heard it?

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Dirge for November is a quality track.

My favorite is either The Drapery Falls or The Leper Affinity. Bleak is awesome too.

[Lateralias]

Mine is either the title track or The Leper Affinity.. Harvest is up there also.

[Txus]

My favorite is bleak or to bid your farewell.

[Deth]

Bleak is by far my favorite on the album, though when I first bought BWP it was The Drapery Falls for a while.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

The Lepper Affinity is my favourite off BWP, and probably my fav Opeth song over all. That solo at 2.40= Orgasim.

[Deth]

I think they have better solos myself, some off Morningrise are incredible.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Im not that big a fan of Morningrise for some reason. Maybe i need to just listen to it more.

[Cain]

I think they have better solos myself, some off Morningrise are incredible.

Really? I thought Morningrise had pretty bad solos. I think Still Life had some of the best.

On the other hand, I'm a rare Opeth fan that, while enjoying Morningrise, nevertheless takes a rather dim view of its actual compositional cohesiveness. :p

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I love Dirge...jesus.

Its fun as hell to play, and its a very unique song from Opeth.
It doesn't sound like a lot of the Damnation material or other acoustic parts they have done.

I don't know.....it just strikes a chord with me (pun fully intended)

So far, it's also my fave. I agree about it being fun to play. Although a bit tricky for me at the moment, I'm sure I'll get it down smoothly. The chord chagnes in the intro just flow so perfectly.

[Grey Incision]

Really? I thought Morningrise had pretty bad solos. I think Still Life had some of the best.

On the other hand, I'm a rare Opeth fan that, while enjoying Morningrise, nevertheless takes a rather dim view of its actual compositional cohesiveness. :p

My favourite Opeth solo is in 'The Twilight Is My Robe'. It isn't hard, but it such a friggen amazingly good sounding solo

[Lateralias]

My favourite Opeth solo is in 'The Twilight Is My Robe'. It isn't hard, but it such a friggen amazingly good sounding solo

That's my favorite solo also, White Cluster's solo is pretty cool off Still Life.

[Biancazzurri]

Does somebody know details about new album that is going to be out in september or so?

[Fallen Zero]

I don't know if this was mentioned somewhere in this thread earlier, but has everyone heard the new song called "The Grand Conjuration"? Its apparently from Ghost Reveries. I can find the link again if anyone wants it.

[Tele_Dude]

Oh, i want..!

Opeth is one of my favorite bands.. Favorite track is probably Master's Apprentices.

[slappindabass]

Does somebody know details about new album that is going to be out in september or so?

It's supposed to be out during August-September. That general time period. That's what their site says.

[sj_2150]

I don't know if this was mentioned somewhere in this thread earlier, but has everyone heard the new song called "The Grand Conjuration"? Its apparently from Ghost Reveries. I can find the link again if anyone wants it.

Click Here (http://www.metalinjection.net/news/viewnews.cgi?id=EEEAylFAlkGlfTxWOr) for a link to the new OPETH song (ITS ****ING GREAT!)

[slappindabass]

Click Here (http://www.metalinjection.net/news/viewnews.cgi?id=EEEAylFAlkGlfTxWOr) for a link to the new OPETH song (ITS ****ING GREAT!)

Man I'm trying to hear this song. None of these links are working for me.

[Darkness]

I love the second solo in Wreath... thats awesome.

[Det_Nosnip]

Really? I thought Morningrise had pretty bad solos. I think Still Life had some of the best.

On the other hand, I'm a rare Opeth fan that, while enjoying Morningrise, nevertheless takes a rather dim view of its actual compositional cohesiveness. :p

No, I'm with you. The melodies are incredible, and the band had alot of really great ideas, but alot of the songs felt like they didn't have very much focus or direction. Advent rules, though.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Are you guys doing any cover songs? I know I heard you guys had some songs in the works, but are there any finished products as of yet? I'd love to hear em. :D

[relliK]

I love the second solo in Wreath... thats awesome.

123

Best part of the whole song IMO.

[Txus]

My fav. opeth solo is the second solo from Black rose Immortal.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

Forest of October is a pretty sick solo too.....

Its sounds so evil, I love it

[Lateralias]

Forest of October is a pretty sick solo too.....

Its sounds so evil, I love it

Just listened to that like an hour ago... probably my fav song off Orchid.

[Deth]

Are you guys doing any cover songs? I know I heard you guys had some songs in the works, but are there any finished products as of yet? I'd love to hear em. :D
It's kind of sunk into obscurity, so I'm in a screw it attitude right now.

[Lateralias]

Wow so I noticed that if I actually follow along with the story in MAYH it makes the album much better... anyone ever tried to follow the stories in MAYH or Still Life?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Are they concept albums based on books or what? If so, what books?

[relliK]

I doubt it, neither story is really all that complex.I guess Mike probably did it to help him write.

MAYH-Man dies, becomes a ghost and is forced to witness his loved one slowly forget about him and move on.

Still Life-Exiled man returns after 15 years for his love, Melinda.As we all know, there is no happy ending in this one either.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

:-/ Sounds sad. Concept albums own though. Are the 2 albums intertwined with each other, or are they seperate? They sound similair..

[Lateralias]

They are seperate.. and the music really makes each story different to me. MAYH is somewhat darker to me. Yeah they are pretty simple but it shows that Mikael is good with leading a story throughout the album.

[Grey Incision]

definatly, i listened to MAYH all the way through yesterday (as its my favoutire album) and i just love it, I thought that still life's lyrics felt kinda cheesy and didn't fit as well. (even though it is amazing and fits great). But with MAYH, everything fits, i love it:)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So then if I had BWP, which album should I purchase next?

[Grey Incision]

So then if I had BWP, which album should I purchase next?

Definatly MAYH :thumb:

[Lateralias]

Well you won't go wrong with either MAYH or Still Life..

[Crysiss]

I was reading through from page 100 to now. I wish that those people were still going to do that cover of those three songs :sighs:

[Deth]

Which ever you can find, those two have proven difficult to locate for me.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

wtf..I think that the Tool guys are the only thread actaully doing covers. Well, and Rage Against the Machine, which I am also involved in. :p

Yeah, if I can't find them, I'll just download them.

Creeping Deth- Did I already compliment your avatar? If not, GG.

[Darkness]

Jake, get Still Life next... then MAYH, simply because it will be less of a change.

[Mr. Ron]

I can't find still life or MAYH ANYWHERE. :(

[Blanka Flip]

Hey guys... Does anyone have any idea how long Opeth will play on average on the Sounds of the Underground Tour? I'm going on the 15th and can't f u c k i n g wait.

[Darkness]

People have said they have about a half hour set playing songs like The Drapery falls, Deliverance, and Demon of the Fall.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, I've heard they only play for half an hour. I don't know if that's worth your 35 bucks or not..:-/

[Txus]

They play like 3 or 4 songs max.

[Knifeboy]

Draper Falls, Deliverance and demon of the fall is worth 35 bucks.. Trust me

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I suppose I would pay to see that, but you have to also pay to see 15+ bad bands perfrom first. :upset:

I think I would still go, though. :cool:

[Knifeboy]

What 15+ bands is it?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've heard a few names tossed around, but I can't remember any of them because they were bands that I wasn't into. I know that Opeth is the only death metal band there, though. Strapping Yound Lad I know is also going to be there, but I've never heard anything by them, so I'd rather not judge. I've heard that they're good though.

[Txus]

I've heard a few names tossed around, but I can't remember any of them because they were bands that I wasn't into. I know that Opeth is the only death metal band there, though. Strapping Yound Lad I know is also going to be there, but I've never heard anything by them, so I'd rather not judge. I've heard that they're good though.
- LAMB OF GOD
- CLUTCH
- POISON THE WELL
- OPETH
- FROM AUTUMN TO ASHES
- UNEARTH
- NORMA JEAN
- EVERY TIME I DIE
- CHIMAIRA
- THROWDOWN
- STRAPPING YOUNG LAD
- HIGH ON FIRE
- MADBALL
- TERROR
- A LIFE ONCE LOST
- ALL THAT REMAINS
- DEVILDRIVER
- THE RED CHORD
- FULL BLOWN CHAOS
- F.B.T.M.O.F.
- THE BLACK DAHLIA MURDER

This are the band's playing at the SOTUT .

[Knifeboy]

Wow.. so many bad bands

[Txus]

Wow.. so many bad bands
I know so..IMO the only band's that worth money to watch are:
Opeth
Lamb Of God
Strapping Young Lad
A Life Once Lost
The Black Dahlia Murder

[Blanka Flip]

DevilDriver, Gwar, Opeth. The only three bands I'm really interested in seeing. If Opeth wasn't playing I wouldn't be going... Yikes... The thought of them playing under Lamb of God really pisses me off. Thanks so much guys!

[Charlie Gaines]

Could anybody please give me a link to the new song?

[Grey Incision]

That's friggen terrible:upset: Mike even said in an interview that he passionately dislikes 'pretty metal' bands such as slipknot, chimaira etc. He then said that he hasn't heard any of the bands on the tour, but it would be good to see what else is around....................poor mike is gonna have a heart attack

[Taste_My_Scythe]

Could anybody please give me a link to the new song?

There's a new song? Wow, I've been gone from this thread for way too long.

[Lateralias]

Could anybody please give me a link to the new song?

Just look back a few pages.. if you can't find it.. keep going back.. there was like 6 links for it. You'll find it.

[strat]

The Great Conjuration kicks ****ing *** \m/

[Lateralias]

The Great Conjuration kicks ****ing *** \m/

You'll like it even more when it's in CD quality :cool:

[strat]

You'll like it even more when it's in CD quality :cool:


Hahaha, snuck in there before i fixed my post :p

[Dannyboy15]

http://d6.yousendit.com/E/0MMOGCO0S8W480DX4CJXX8N4XN/Opeth%20-%20The%20Grand%20Conjuration%20(ripped%20from%20Si rius).mp3

new opeth song

[Det_Nosnip]

So then if I had BWP, which album should I purchase next?

Still Life. Or, Dam nation, if you want something a little....different. :)

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Yes, get ****ation. Its nearly their best IMO. Definately in my top 3 Opeth albums.

[Blanka Flip]

Oh YEAH!?

Well I'm seeing them in 2 weeks. *shakes*

When are you seeing them? I'm going the 15th in Orlando.
(Though I'm from Nashville :thumb: )

[Taste_My_Scythe]

When are you seeing them? I'm going the 15th in Orlando.
(Though I'm from Nashville :thumb: )

You're driving to Orlando to see Opeth? That is awesome! :thumb:

Where are they playing in Orlando, House of Blues?

[naboo]

I know so..IMO the only band's that worth money to watch are:
Opeth
Lamb Of God
Strapping Young Lad
A Life Once Lost
The Black Dahlia Murder

And Gwar of course.

[Shattered_Future]

You're driving to Orlando to see Opeth? That is awesome! :thumb:

Where are they playing in Orlando, House of Blues?

My friend almost got his mom to take us to an Opeth concert...

He only showed her Damnation. :p

I wanted to go to the Sounds Of The Underground tour, but none of my friends wanted to go...

I'd go for Opeth, Gwar, Unearth, and Devildriver.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

My friend almost got his mom to take us to an Opeth concert...

He only showed her Damnation. :p


That's awesome. My parents wouldn't do that. :upset:

[Det_Nosnip]

When are you seeing them? I'm going the 15th in Orlando.
(Though I'm from Nashville :thumb: )

Errrrr....are you sure? They're going to be in Dallas on the 15th, which is when I'm seeing them. Orlando show is on the 13th.

[Lateralias]

Yes, get ****ation. Its nearly their best IMO. Definately in my top 3 Opeth albums.

Their best? It is a great and different style for an Opeth album but I wouldn't go so far to say it is better than the rest, It's not even their real sound. Remember what Mikael said after the Damnation set on the DVD? :)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Actually, I do not. What did he say? :lol:

/Opeth n00b

[Killtacular]

I've got Blackwater Park, Still Life, and Morningrise. What should I go after next?

[bball_1523]

I've got Blackwater Park, Still Life, and Morningrise. What should I go after next?

My Arms, Your Hearse: Quality album. The song "When" was the first song I heard from Opeth, and from there on I have become hooked!

[Killtacular]

Awesome. I'll give it a go.

[Blanka Flip]

You're driving to Orlando to see Opeth? That is awesome! :thumb:

Where are they playing in Orlando, House of Blues?

They are playing at Tinker field... And yes! Thanks Det_Nosip, it's the 13th. My God has it been a long week. :rolleyes:

I just can't wait to get up there and see the guys with just a few other bands. If it wern't for Opeth though, fuk it... It would be pointless.
:wave:

[Endless Obsession]

I saw them live last night, and god are they awful live. All of their songs were like 7 minutes or more, and they just bored the hell out of the crowd. I almost fell asleep during "To Rid the Disease"

[suspect]

I think its sad that since you can't appreiciate the music, you think they are awful live. I've seen them before, in Oslo, and the crowd loved every song, even the slow ones.

Guess that's what happends when they tour with the metalcore bands... The audience probably isn't used to hearing anything else then 3 minute long songs with 1 minute long breakdowns.

[Txus]

I saw them live last night, and god are they awful live. All of their songs were like 7 minutes or more, and they just bored the hell out of the crowd. I almost fell asleep during "To Rid the Disease"
That is because you aren´t used to listen to opeth, but that doesn´t mean that they are awful live in fact they are one of the greatest live bands ever and like the guy above me said maybe there were only metalcore kid´s in the crowd.

[Mr. Ron]

I saw them live last night, and god are they awful live. All of their songs were like 7 minutes or more, and they just bored the hell out of the crowd. I almost fell asleep during "To Rid the Disease"
That is because you are used to 3 minute Bullshit put out by most commercial metal bands.

Did they just play their mello songs or some of the heavier stuff?

[Det_Nosnip]

I saw them live last night, and god are they awful live. All of their songs were like 7 minutes or more, and they just bored the hell out of the crowd. I almost fell asleep during "To Rid the Disease"

Well, you're also a Lamb of God fan. Opeth is for people with more than a 3 second attention span, sorry. I'm sure there's a few fans of LOG in here, but in my opinion Chris Adler is the only member of that group worth a second glance and the music as a whole is boring and redundant to me. I actually almost fell asleep when I saw them a while back, yet I wouldn't go around saying that they're "awful live." It's just not my thing.

[Endless Obsession]

Their recorded stuff isnt bad at all, I just would rather see Unearth running around swinging their guitars and diving into the crowd than Opeth standing around and headbanging a little tiny bit.

They played To rid the disease, Demon of the Fall, to Bid you Farewell, one of their upcoming album and one other one, their songs are long so they didnt play that much.

[Mr. Ron]

Their recorded stuff isnt bad at all, I just would rather see Unearth running around swinging their guitars and diving into the crowd than Opeth standing around and headbanging a little tiny bit.

They played To rid the disease, Demon of the Fall, to Bid you Farewell, one of their upcoming album and one other one, their songs are long so they didnt play that much.
Opeth is about the music, not the stage performance. Also, they are the only talented musicians on that bill, IMO.

[Dannyboy15]

Their recorded stuff isnt bad at all, I just would rather see Unearth running around swinging their guitars and diving into the crowd than Opeth standing around and headbanging a little tiny bit.

They played To rid the disease, Demon of the Fall, to Bid you Farewell, one of their upcoming album and one other one, their songs are long so they didnt play that much.

You've lost your music privileges for your entire life. These metalcore kids need a better appreciation for good music.

Look at opeth and how much goes in to their music. Do you think someone could afford to stop playing their instrument to dick around? I think not.

[Hive]

I just ordered Lamentations. I borrowed it from my guitar teacher and thought it was amazing. Anyone who calls their live performances "boring" will no longer be regarded as a musician. Who the hell cares if they're not doing stage dives or running around like heroin addicts? They're above all that. The people who like Opeth are about the music, the talent, not stupid gimmicks.

[Mr. Ron]

I just ordered Lamentations. I borrowed it from my guitar teacher and thought it was amazing. Anyone who calls their live performances "boring" will no longer be regarded as a musician. Who the hell cares if they're not doing stage dives or running around like heroin addicts? They're above all that. The people who like Opeth are about the music, the talent, not stupid gimmicks.
here, here.

[Lateralias]

Opeth is for people with more than a 3 second attention span, sorry.

pwned

And Jake to answer your response a page back.. Once opeth were done with their soft Damnation set they started off their heavy set with Master's Apprentice (which is a heavy awesome song) and whenn they finished Mikael said to the crowd "For those of you who haven't heard this side of Opeth.. this is what we really sound like". :)

[Mr. Ron]

i hate opeth i hate their lyrics they suck u cant even understand what they say
whats the point of having lyrics if u cant understand them
they play with so much distortion the notes are garbled in a fuzz
which shows very poor musicianship
All I can do is laugh at this extreme ignorance. :lol:

[Hive]

i hate opeth i hate their lyrics they suck u cant even understand what they say
whats the point of having lyrics if u cant understand them
they play with so much distortion the notes are garbled in a fuzz
which shows very poor musicianship

1) Opeth's lyrics are brilliant. If you cant understand them, buy a new stereo.
2) I can understand them so...
3) so much distortion? There is no such thing. They're using Seymour Duncans in a PRS. Believe me, there are much heavier sounds out there.
4) I'm always being impressed by the definition of Opeths music, particularly the Pink Floyd-esque solos. What were you listening to it through? I tin can?
5) You know nothing if you think this shows poor musicianship

[hethamulburton]

explain my friend

[hethamulburton]

its just like slipknot wierd, random, unintellectual, drowned in distortion
im sorry i cant stand it

[Mr. Ron]

explain my friend
First, I need to know if you own any of the Opeth albums of listen to them frequently. I'm guessing you don't because you obviously do not know what you are talking about.

[hethamulburton]

i have heard songs yes
and you r correct to say i have no cds

[Hive]

its just like slipknot
:lol: You're really funny

[Mr. Ron]

i have heard songs yes
and you r correct to say i have no cds
What songs have you heard?

[Hive]

Sorry about the repost, but I think you missed this:

1) Opeth's lyrics are brilliant. If you cant understand them, buy a new stereo.
2) I can understand them so...
3) too much distortion? There is no such thing. They're using Seymour Duncans in a PRS. Believe me, there are much heavier sounds out there.
4) I'm always being impressed by the definition of Opeths music, particularly the Pink Floyd-esque solos. What were you listening to it through? I tin can?
5) You know nothing if you think this shows poor musicianship

[Hive]

BTW: Does the 'Het' in you name stand for Hetfield? If it does, kill yourself now and save me a bullet.

[Mr. Ron]

BTW: Does the 'Het' in you name stand for Hetfield? If it does, kill yourself now and save me a bullet.
LMAO.

[Hive]

Seriously though, what did you expect to accomplish by bashing Opeth in the official Opeth thread? Do you have a deathwish? It's like walking into a police station with a bag of black tar heroin or going into a biker bar and saying "I'm a queer!"

[Mr. Ron]

Seriously though, what did you expect to accomplish by bashing Opeth in the official Opeth thread? Do you have a deathwish? It's like walking into a police station with a bag of black tar heroin or going into a biker bar and saying "I'm a queer!"
Here is all the proof you need Hive.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8571271#post8571271

[Hive]

do anyone know if metallica is planning on a new album soon, im curious to see if they include solos this time
Yup :lol: He's one of those "Kirk Hammet is leik the graetist gitarist ev0r!" noobs.

[hethamulburton]

proof i like metallica so what what does that have to do with our current dicussion

[Mr. Ron]

i never said they were like slipknot only that their music is wierd like theirs
i also dont like pink floyd much, which probably adds to my bias
ill buy u the bullet and the gun lol
i like hives metaphors they r quite uhhhhhhhhhhhh
funny
Ok so here is where you went wrong.

1) You come into a OFFICIAL OPETH THREAD and bash them.
2) You don't like Pink floyd
3) You compare them to Slipknot, which is usually a crime punishable buy firing squad
4) You said they have horrible lyrics
5) You were born
6) You like Metallica. One of the most overrated, mediochre metal bands ever.

[hethamulburton]

actually i believe kirk sux he has really $hitty vibrato and bends out of tune alot

[hethamulburton]

do u not think i like other bands
that metallica is the one ting that allows me to live

[Hive]

i never said they were like slipknot
Oh, didn't you now?
its just like slipknot wierd
I rest my case.
And did you call Opeth "unintellectual"???? Please die.

[hethamulburton]

yes they are wierd
just as slipknot is wierd
not musically
i feel like im talkin to bricks

[Hive]

proof i like metallica so what what does that have to do with our current dicussion
it proves that your opinion on music is completely invalid.

[Mr. Ron]

do u not think i like other bands
that metallica is the one ting that allows me to live
Please get a grasp of the English language before posting please.

[Mr. Ron]

yes they are wierd
just as slipknot is wierd
not musically
i feel like im talkin to bricks
How are they "weird"???

[Hive]

How are they "weird"???
actually, he spelled it "wierd". :lol:

[Hive]

yes they are wierd
just as slipknot is wierd
not musically
i feel like im talkin to bricks
I feel like I'm talking to a 12 year old without any grammar or spelling skills, let alone taste in music.

[Mr. Ron]

actually, he spelled it "wierd". :lol:
Hmmm, perhaps I should speak in his native tongue?

oMfG!11!! howz opEth wyrd!?1!?

[hethamulburton]

o jesus the worlds gonna end i spelled a word wrong multiple times
leik the graetist gitarist ev0r- ur precious spelling

[hethamulburton]

taste in music is completely opinionated
ur entitled to one and i am to one also
please have a wonderful day

[Mr. Ron]

o jesus the worlds gonna end i spelled a word wrong multiple times
leik the graetist gitarist ev0r- ur precious spelling
People judge you by the way you present yourself. If you spell like a eight-year-old and refuse to use correct sentence structure and punctuation people will think of you as a uneducated fool.

[hethamulburton]

If you spell like a eight-year-old and refuse to use correct sentence structure and punctuation people will think of you as a uneducated fool.

I believe that it is," If you spell like an eight-year-old..."
I'm terribly sorry, it's just grammar.

[Mr. Ron]

If you spell like a eight-year-old and refuse to use correct sentence structure and punctuation people will think of you as a uneducated fool.

I believe that it is," If you spell like an eight-year-old..."
I'm terribly sorry, it's just grammar.
Me forgetting to use "an" instead of "a" is nothing compared to your butchering of my native tongue.

[Mr. Ron]

Is it not one aspect of your arguement against my intelligence, that I "butcher" spelling and grammar. You're now being hypocritical; you remind me of John Kerry.
Don't compare me to Kerry, I hate that man.

Getting back to our original arguement, why do you think Opeth is "weird"?

[hethamulburton]

Are you done gawking at that site yet? www.opeth.com Bio on Peter
So as you can see Metallica has had more of an impact than you have given them credit for. As for them being weird, they are Swedish, or from around there, and many people from that area are kind of weird, but only the metal bands, no one else there is like this. These Metal guys in that area think metal is fast guitar riffs that are monotonous and stay that way song after song. Now I've heard many bands of that region, many don't appeal to me, but some do, and it seems this is one that does not appeal to my taste in music, as it does the rest of you ladies.
My email is hethamulburton@netscape.net if you'd like to continue this discussion at another time, or just give me a piece of your mind, which I feel, you all have the right to do, as it is America.
Now reply, don't spoil my fun.

[OfSins&Shred]

Are you done gawking at that site yet? www.opeth.com Bio on Peter
So as you can see Metallica has had more of an impact than you have given them credit for. As for them being weird, they are Swedish, or from around there, and many people from that area are kind of weird, but only the metal bands, no one else there is like this. These Metal guys in that area think metal is fast guitar riffs that are monotonous and stay that way song after song. Now I've heard many bands of that region, many don't appeal to me, but some do, and it seems this is one that does not appeal to my taste in music, as it does the rest of you ladies.
My email is hethamulburton@netscape.net if you'd like to continue this discussion at another time, or just give me a piece of your mind, which I feel, you all have the right to do, as it is America.
Now reply, don't spoil my fun.

**** off

[Dannyboy15]

Oh and what is this I see:
Metallica “Master of Puppets”
An essential album, suggested by Peter Lindgren.
Guitarist of your beloved Opeth.


Why do you type like this. You're not writing a song!!!!


Example:

blah blah blah blah
blahblah blah blah blahblah
blah blah blahblahblah
blah blahblah

:angry: :angry: :angry:

[Endless Obsession]

Opeth is about the music, not the stage performance. Also, they are the only talented musicians on that bill, IMO.

Buzz from Unearth was sweeping up and down his guitar, and Ken was sweeping behind his head. Chris Adler is a million times better then the drummer from Opeth, unless he just decides to not try during thieir music.

But if I knew nothing about Opeth or Uneart and I watched that concert I would think Buzz is a ton better than Opeths guys.

[hethamulburton]

I agree, Opeth is not very overly talented, so many bands have guys who literally reap talent, Opeth does not.
Sorry about my other comment Dannyboy. :thumb:

[Mr. Ron]

Buzz from Unearth was sweeping up and down his guitar, and Ken was sweeping behind his head. Chris Adler is a million times better then the drummer from Opeth, unless he just decides to not try during thieir music.

But if I knew nothing about Opeth or Uneart and I watched that concert I would think Buzz is a ton better than Opeths guys.
WHO CARES IF THEY CAN MOVE THEIR GUITARS IN A FANCY MANNER!?

If you compare Opeth's technicality and lyrical content to LoG's, LoG pales in comparison. Face it, Opeth is the superior band.

[hethamulburton]

It's a matter of opinion, he can't prove it, nor can you or I. Face it no one can prove who is the better band, and no magazine countdowns don't count either.

[Endless Obsession]

WHO CARES IF THEY CAN MOVE THEIR GUITARS IN A FANCY MANNER!?

If you compare Opeth's technicality and lyrical content to LoG's, LoG pales in comparison. Face it, Opeth is the superior band.

1st off I said he was sweeping, like sweep picking the guitar. Fast. Also, from what I saw yesterday Opeth is not very talented at all. Maybe if you are one of the people that thinks songwriting is where true talent lies, then sure if you like the music.

Im just saying, nobody in that band did anything exceptional yesterday during their performance.

And if you think that Lamb of Gods riffs aren't technical, that just shows how ignorant Opeth fanboys truly are. And Lamb of Gods lyrics are great, if you are into them. Thats just a matter of opinion though.

[Mr. Ron]

It's a matter of opinion, he can't prove it, nor can you or I. Face it no one can prove who is the better band, and no magazine countdowns don't count either.
No, you can. Actually buy some Opeth albums and LISTEN to Opeth's guitar work and READ their lyrics. You will quickly realize that they are a very talented band.

[Mr. Ron]

1st off I said he was sweeping, like sweep picking the guitar. Fast. Also, from what I saw yesterday Opeth is not very talented at all. Maybe if you are one of the people that thinks songwriting is where true talent lies, then sure if you like the music.

Im just saying, nobody in that band did anything exceptional yesterday during their performance.

And if you think that Lamb of Gods riffs aren't technical, that just shows how ignorant Opeth fanboys truly are. And Lamb of Gods lyrics are great, if you are into them. Thats just a matter of opinion though.
Do you judge bands by how they act onstage?

Plus I own almost all of the LoG albums. I have read their lyrics and see nothing special about them.

[Lateralias]

What a spammerific new member... what songs do you base your opinion on hethamul? Also I suggest you delete some of your useless posts before a mod sees the excessiveness of them.

[hethamulburton]

But you can always argue that this song has better axe work, or this song has better drums, or vocals. It's how you look at it, if I took a stand point of," Old McDonald," was the greatest song ever, and truely believed it, why would listening to a band make me change my mind.

[Endless Obsession]

Do you judge bands by how they act onstage?

Plus I own almost all of the LoG albums. I have read their lyrics and see nothing special about them.

Im saying nobody did anything great with their instruments yesterday, the solos were mediocre, drums and guitar, and keyboards and bass didnt solo.

[hethamulburton]

What a spammerific new member... what songs do you base your opinion on hethamul? Also I suggest you delete some of your useless posts before a mod sees the excessiveness of them.

Actually, I'm only new to the forums, I have a different screen name for the actual site itself.

[Mr. Ron]

Im saying nobody did anything great with their instruments yesterday, the solos were mediocre, drums and guitar, and keyboards and bass didnt solo.
So you think they have to do some stupid moves with their instruments to be a talented band? if so, you're a fool. It's about the music. Plus, Opeth has many famous solos but you wouldn't know about them because you don't listen to them.

[Lateralias]

Actually, I'm only new to the forums, I have a different screen name for the actual site itself.

Kudos. Now delete your spam one page back please.

And R. Blythe, Opeth doesn't appeal to Harcore/Metalcore fans usually.. SotU is based around that genre.

[Endless Obsession]

So you think they have to do some stupid moves with their instruments to be a talented band? if so, you're a fool. It's about the music. Plus, Opeth has many famous solos but you wouldn't know about them because you don't listen to them.

God you are dense. Im sayin they didnt impress me with their talent of the instrument they played. Buz doing 5 string sweeps for like 2 minutes straight was impressive, Chris Adlers drumming was impressive. Opeth, nothing was really impressive.

You dont have to start crying about it when someone comes and states that they dont like Opeths live show.

[Mr. Ron]

God you are dense. Im sayin they didnt impress me with their talent of the instrument they played. Buz doing 5 string sweeps for like 2 minutes straight was impressive, Chris Adlers drumming was impressive. Opeth, nothing was really impressive.

You dont have to start crying about it when someone comes and states that they dont like Opeths live show.
I'm not crying about it. I'm simply trying to get it through your head that Opeth is very talented. You don't need to do 5 string sweeps to be talented.

[Endless Obsession]

I'm not crying about it. I'm simply trying to get it through your head that Opeth is very talented. You don't need to do 5 string sweeps to be talented.

Tell me a song that has some of this great talent in it that I can download and see for myself.

[Mr. Ron]

Tell me a song that has some of this great talent in it that I can download and see for myself.
In the mist she was standing
Black rose immortal (it's long though)
Deliverance

[Dannyboy15]

Listen to

bleak
Godhead's Lament
Dirge for November
Demons of the Fall
Windowpane
Blackwater Park
To bid you Farewell
Deliverance

[Mr. Ron]

Listen to

bleak
Godhead's Lament
Dirge for November
Demons of the Fall
Windowpane
Blackwater Park
To bid you Farewell
Deliverance
Window pane is one of the best mello songs ever written.

[bucket]

It's a matter of opinion, he can't prove it, nor can you or I. Face it no one can prove who is the better band, and no magazine countdowns don't count either.

Actually buy some Opeth albums and LISTEN to Opeth's guitar work and READ their lyrics. You will quickly realize that they are a very talented band.

But you can always argue that this song has better axe work, or this song has better drums, or vocals. It's how you look at it

It's about the music

You don't need to do 5 string sweeps to be talented

All truths.

[hethamulburton]

Well said. But I also believe that Blythe was right when he said bands should have good stage performances, if you pay top currency for it, then you should expect something that would blow your mind, and not as he says Opeth played, where he didn't like them on stage.

[Cardboard Headgear]

Buz doing 5 string sweeps for like 2 minutes straight was impressive, Chris Adlers drumming was impressive. Opeth, nothing was really impressive.
Yeah, they didnt do sweeping at the show, so they must not be able to do it at all. Opeth's riffs are far more complex and unorthodox than any of Lamb of God's, and Mikael and Peter are more than capable of mindlessly shredding, though they opt for writing solos instead of just going haywire on the guitar.

[Det_Nosnip]

Dear lord...we need "thread moderators" who can annihilate people at will. If you want to continue being an idiot....go for it. Don't do it here. If you don't like the band, then there's no point in posting in this thread.

[Dannyboy15]

Lamb of God
http://d36.yousendit.com/C/071DJ2F71YMRM0C088FFAG71W0/LAMBOF3.mid

Opeth
http://d36.yousendit.com/C/1XJ0S1QU5MNUA1K8A01VOH68MS/OPETH1.mid

Heres the midi files so you can hear all instruments in both songs and hear how they play their parts.

I think dicking around on stage and playing Lamb of God songs would be alot easier.

[Slapping Penguin]

Are you done gawking at that site yet? www.opeth.com Bio on Peter
So as you can see Metallica has had more of an impact than you have given them credit for. As for them being weird, they are Swedish, or from around there, and many people from that area are kind of weird, but only the metal bands, no one else there is like this. These Metal guys in that area think metal is fast guitar riffs that are monotonous and stay that way song after song. Now I've heard many bands of that region, many don't appeal to me, but some do, and it seems this is one that does not appeal to my taste in music, as it does the rest of you ladies.
My email is hethamulburton@netscape.net if you'd like to continue this discussion at another time, or just give me a piece of your mind, which I feel, you all have the right to do, as it is America.
Now reply, don't spoil my fun.

I WANT TO KILL YOU. YOU ARE A COMPELTE UNEDUCATED TWAT. You call people when from scandiniva weird and I bet you have never met one of them in your life. I'm Australian and I am offended. Then you act like America owns this thread and its the only free country in the world and as if it founded democracy.

you all have the right to do, as it is America Yeah sure **** bucket.

YOUR JUST A GRADE A TOSSER. PUT YOUR **** IN A BLENDER AND DO US ALL A FAVOUR.

Now everyone else. Leave Randy alone you have missunderstood his posts. He is not saying Opeth is untalented its just their live shows are a bit boring to him. So what he likes an exciting show. YOU can not compare LoG to Opeth. Its like apples and oranges. Both tast good but completely different. When I stick Opeth I listen to Opeth, enjoying their style. When I listen to Lamb I enjoy the music they offer.

Now Randy before you say anything more about their music listen to Black Rose Immortal if imppresive solos and stuff is what you like, then this has it. Htye play some very cool and fast solos.

[Endless Obsession]

Lamb of God
http://d36.yousendit.com/C/071DJ2F71YMRM0C088FFAG71W0/LAMBOF3.mid

Opeth
http://d36.yousendit.com/C/1XJ0S1QU5MNUA1K8A01VOH68MS/OPETH1.mid

Heres the midi files so you can hear all instruments in both songs and hear how they play their parts.

I think dicking around on stage and playing Lamb of God songs would be alot easier.

Those links are broken.

Now Randy before you say anything more about their music listen to Black Rose Immortal if imppresive solos and stuff is what you like, then this has it. Htye play some very cool and fast solos.

Yeah, but someone came in here and said "Opeth is the only talented band on that tour." Thats so unbelievably ignorant that I had to start an argument.

[hethamulburton]

I WANT TO KILL YOU. YOU ARE A COMPELTE UNEDUCATED TWAT. You call people when from scandiniva weird and I bet you have never met one of them in your life. I'm Australian and I am offended. Then you act like America owns this thread and its the only free country in the world and as if it founded democracy.

Yeah sure **** bucket.

YOUR JUST A GRADE A TOSSER. PUT YOUR **** IN A BLENDER AND DO US ALL A FAVOUR.

Now everyone else. Leave Randy alone you have missunderstood his posts. He is not saying Opeth is untalented its just their live shows are a bit boring to him. So what he likes an exciting show. YOU can not compare LoG to Opeth. Its like apples and oranges. Both tast good but completely different. When I stick Opeth I listen to Opeth, enjoying their style. When I listen to Lamb I enjoy the music they offer.

Now Randy before you say anything more about their music listen to Black Rose Immortal if imppresive solos and stuff is what you like, then this has it. Htye play some very cool and fast solos.



I find you funny, you bleep out one curse but say another. Aussies are weird too, hahaha.
Opeth just must be a boring live band, to Blythe, lets leave it at that.

[Lateralias]

Yeah, but someone came in here and said "Opeth is the only talented band on that tour." Thats so unbelievably ignorant that I had to start an argument.

Well no ****, this the Opeth thread right? Don't bring your metalcore band and argument in here. So what if you feel threatened by another metal band, it doesn't mean you have to trigger a very poor argument.

Now moving on... what is everyones favorite Opeth song to play? I am personally having lots of fun with Benighted, I can't get enough of Mikael's acoustic work. :)

[Slapping Penguin]

GODHEAD'S LAMENT and DEMON OF THE FALL

Hey look everybody my penguin now wears Opeth shirts look lookie.

Yeah, but someone came in here and said "Opeth is the only talented band on that tour." Thats so unbelievably ignorant that I had to start an argument.

I understand what you mean. I love Opeth but I do agree to act like they are the only talented band is silly. Just remeber espically in "Offical" threads people can get over zealous about their faviroutie band.

[Endless Obsession]

I understand what you mean. I love Opeth but I do agree to act like they are the only talented band is silly. Just remeber espically in "Offical" threads people can get over zealous about their faviroutie band.

Yeah but its not like I just came in here and said "Opeth sucks" and thats it. I said that i dont like their live show, and that they arent the most talented band ever people need to understand that in here.

Then I had to defend my beloved Unearth and Lamb of God. Dont get me wrong, I have no problem with Opeth's music, its just their live isnt for me.

[Flynn]

Yeah but its not like I just came in here and said "Opeth sucks" and thats it. I said that i dont like their live show, and that they arent the most talented band ever people need to understand that in here.

Then I had to defend my beloved Unearth and Lamb of God. Dont get me wrong, I have no problem with Opeth's music, its just their live isnt for me.



That's cool. 1st amendment. I saw them live and it was ungodly. They sounded perfect - Pry the best concert I have ever been to, I have been to quite a few.

I will defend this thread by saying - Don't come in here with that negative attitude cause you dislike their Live Show. And please don't post in here if you have some lame excuse to post your fav Metal Core bands. If you're about Moshing to random screams and sounds, then yes, those bands are for you. So take your ''Pride'' and go make a '' I like to mosh '' thread.













Skittles Cause Cancer

[Daven]

good reply. but because your fav. band is opeth it doesnt means the other bands suck because they're not like Opeth

[Cain]

Yeah, that's pretty stupid. To love Opeth because of how different they sound and then complain because no one else sounds like them.

People are entitled to their opinions and I'm all for less fanboys in ANY official thread. Threads are for discussion, and in this one I see many many more posts dealing with what the favorite Opeth song of the moment is for all the regular users rather than any real criticism or discussion about an aspect of the band. Whenever I criticize Morningrise, for instance, it tends to be mostly dismissed or ignored, and nothing ever gets talked about except what an awesome song "The Drapery Falls" is. I haven't seen a stimulating discussion in here in a long time, I'm sorry to say.

No hard feelings, everyone, but don't tell a person to get out of the Opeth thread because they don't like Opeth. It does nothing except hinder real debate and discussion.

[Daven]

i think he said that mostly because he is a fan boy

[funk_metalguitarist]

Yeah but its not like I just came in here and said "Opeth sucks" and thats it. I said that i dont like their live show, and that they arent the most talented band ever people need to understand that in here.

Then I had to defend my beloved Unearth and Lamb of God. Dont get me wrong, I have no problem with Opeth's music, its just their live isnt for me.

Well you obviously don't appreciate Opeth's music enough. If you appreciate their music, you would've loved their show.

[Daven]

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[Cain]

Um, that goes without saying. :rolleyes:

[Slapping Penguin]

Not nesscarsly for him they could have had a really shoddy show.

PS: I think my penguin should be the offical Opeth mascot as Eddie is for Maiden. :naughty:

[bucket]

Yeah, that's pretty stupid. To love Opeth because of how different they sound and then complain because no one else sounds like them.

People are entitled to their opinions and I'm all for less fanboys in ANY official thread. Threads are for discussion, and in this one I see many many more posts dealing with what the favorite Opeth song of the moment is for all the regular users rather than any real criticism or discussion about an aspect of the band. Whenever I criticize Morningrise, for instance, it tends to be mostly dismissed or ignored, and nothing ever gets talked about except what an awesome song "The Drapery Falls" is. I haven't seen a stimulating discussion in here in a long time, I'm sorry to say.

No hard feelings, everyone, but don't tell a person to get out of the Opeth thread because they don't like Opeth. It does nothing except hinder real debate and discussion.

**** you Cain. You and you're stupid ****ing whining. Making me go back several pages... shame on you. :p

Discussion ++

Really? I thought Morningrise had pretty bad solos. I think Still Life had some of the best.

On the other hand, I'm a rare Opeth fan that, while enjoying Morningrise, nevertheless takes a rather dim view of its actual compositional cohesiveness.

I don't see how you think the solos are bad. I believe that the first two tracks do not have any solos, so really, they aren't bad if nonexistant. Now the next three all do. I know I like Nectar's, but my CD is not with me so I can't really comment on it :-\. Black Rose Immortal however... holy ****. 16:30 has one of my favorite solos. The semi calm distorted chords lead into a short dual melody dealy and then to an explosive solo. The length of the solo seems a bit short (30 seconds) which I guess could be the downfall for you... :confused: maybe.

Then there is TBYF. It certainly is nothing to get excited for, but still very fitting and nice. It fits the mood of the song perfectly. The complexity of the solo probably knocks it down a couple notches.

There is a pretty low number of solos on this album, but the content given I find very good. So basically what I'm telling you is that you are completely wrong, and that's a fact.

Now onto your point about it's compositional cohesiveness. Ok, I'll admit it... there are several parts that have... rough transitions. I think the only track without them is probably TBYF. If I get my CD out I can probably elaborate later.



/failed 'How to not Sound like an Idiot While in a Discussion' class

[Cain]

**** you Cain. You and you're stupid ****ing whining. Making me go back several pages... shame on you. :p

Discussion ++

Hey, if you were in the thread more we wouldn't have this problem. :p

[bucket]

What are you talking about? This thread is my home boy dog.

[Cain]

What are you talking about? This thread is my home boy dog.

Ur postcount= teh low. Maybe you lurk. Anyways, I know you were just kidding. :)



/omguwur, rite?

[Grey Incision]

I agree with Cain, there HASN'T been any great discussion in here for a long time, hence my failure to post in here often anymore. But i think it's for different reasons, There has been nothing to dicuss with the band, they've been quiet for a very long time, nothing controversial with the band outside of the musical world either, no mikael stabbing peter and going to jail discussions or anything like that. Opeth has just been very quiet, and has given us nothing to talk about.

Also, about morningrise.......................methinks it gets hyped up too much :wave: . Don't get me wrong, awesome cd, but there isn't a great deal that's overly special about it, with blackrose immortal, i like it from the start of the acoustic section around 9 minutes in until the end. The first 9 minutes really annoy me for some reason.

Favourite guitar work is still off 'The Twilight Is My Robe' :thumb:

flame me to f*ck for my opinions :cool: i really don't mind

EDIT: or my poor grammatical skills, i apologize, i'm still recovering from hospital

[xtreme_skatah]

Probably already started but what was your first Opeth song on any instrument. Mine was Moonlapse Vertigo on guitar. I loved the guitar riffing in that song so I learnt the song. I wasn't a death head before and I'm still not but Opeth's music is really different to other death metal and is very good. I've also learnt The Drapery Falls and The Moor. What are other some other good songs to learn? The Twilight is My Robe sounds pretty good, maybe that'll be my next song.

[Hevy Tred]

I still think the most monumental album from opeth was still life

The whole album was a story...and good instrument work as well

[Hevy Tred]

Probably already started but what was your first Opeth song on any instrument.


Windowpane

[Lateralias]

Also, about morningrise.......................methinks it gets hyped up too much :wave: . Don't get me wrong, awesome cd, but there isn't a great deal that's overly special about it, with blackrose immortal, i like it from the start of the acoustic section around 9 minutes in until the end. The first 9 minutes really annoy me for some reason.


Yeah I don't find what is so awesome about Morningrise.. I sure like it, but it isn't what everyone makes it out to be. Black Rose Immortal loses my attention at times into the song, but nonetheless there are parts I love in it aswell.

[Mr. Ron]

Morningrise is definetly overrated. I believe Orchid is better than MR.

[Daven]

morningrise is a great cd IMO, but they have a lot better ones. the fist songs arent too great but black rose immortal and to bid you farewell are awesome.

[Dannyboy15]

Repost with fixed links.
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Lamb of God
http://www.geocities.com/thejesuschainsawmassacre/LAMBOF3.mid

Opeth
http://www.geocities.com/thejesuschainsawmassacre/OPETH1.mid

Heres the midi files so you can hear all instruments in both songs and hear how they play their parts.

I think dicking around on stage and playing Lamb of God songs would be alot easier.

[Lateralias]

Hehe Bleak is 3 times as long as that LoG track.

[bucket]

If you guys had a chance to play on stage for 5 minutes, which Opeth song would you take?

I might later this year and the only reason I'd want to do it is to play Opeth :P. Death vocals won't be a problem because I could probably just find a way to sing them clean or leave them out... or I guess try to death them up. Easier solos shouldn't be a problem. A Fair Judgement would probably be a good choice, but the solo is... awesome :upset:.

TBYF is a good possibilty, but I'd need to leave parts out or shorten them.

D*mnation songs would fit the time bill for the most part, but I would want some metal too.

[Dannyboy15]

If you guys had a chance to play on stage for 5 minutes, which Opeth song would you take?

I might later this year and the only reason I'd want to do it is to play Opeth :P. Death vocals won't be a problem because I could probably just find a way to sing them clean or leave them out... or I guess try to death them up. Easier solos shouldn't be a problem. A Fair Judgement would probably be a good choice, but the solo is... awesome :upset:.

TBYF is a good possibilty, but I'd need to leave parts out or shorten them.

D*mnation songs would fit the time bill for the most part, but I would want some metal too.

5 minute opeth song with vocals? Do they even have one?

[bucket]

Soft ones, but you could take a 10 minute long song and leave parts out and change it around to make it fit in 5 minutes.

Like TBYF has a lot of repeating sections which you could play once or leave out.

[Det_Nosnip]

Yeah, but someone came in here and said "Opeth is the only talented band on that tour." Thats so unbelievably ignorant that I had to start an argument.

That would depend upon your definition of "talented." Personally, I'm really into singers/vocalists. About 90% of the vocalists on the bill, with the exception of Devin Townsend (SYL), are godawful, and that includes your beloved Randy Blythe. If you like the way he sounds, then that's great...but he cannot sing. The whole reason why I personally cannot stand metalcore is the fact that so many vocalists seem to put not an ounce of their energy into actually developing their voices....this is demonstrated most clearly when they attempt to "sing." To do a good death metal growl or black metal scream, on the other hand, takes almost as much control and training as it does to sing properly. Obviously, with harsh vocals, you either like it or you don't, but personally I cannot stand the style.

Songwriting is pretty much subjective, so it's hard to judge...but typical intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/"breakdown"/chorus/outro 'core songs bore the crap out of me.

From a musical perspective, Opeth is by far the most advanced band on the bill. If you can't recognize that, then you are the ignorant one. Odd time signatures, unique chords, complex harmonies...they simply have a great deal more going on than any other band on there. I'm happy for X guitarist from X band who can play really fast, but that has absolutely nothing to do with "talent."

[Grey Incision]

That would depend upon your definition of "talented." Personally, I'm really into singers/vocalists. About 90% of the vocalists on the bill, with the exception of Devin Townsend (SYL), are godawful, and that includes your beloved Randy Blythe. If you like the way he sounds, then that's great...but he cannot sing. The whole reason why I personally cannot stand metalcore is the fact that so many vocalists seem to put not an ounce of their energy into actually developing their voices....this is demonstrated most clearly when they attempt to "sing." To do a good death metal growl or black metal scream, on the other hand, takes almost as much control and training as it does to sing properly. Obviously, with harsh vocals, you either like it or you don't, but personally I cannot stand the style.

Songwriting is pretty much subjective, so it's hard to judge...but typical intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/"breakdown"/chorus/outro 'core songs bore the crap out of me.

From a musical perspective, Opeth is by far the most advanced band on the bill. If you can't recognize that, then you are the ignorant one. Odd time signatures, unique chords, complex harmonies...they simply have a great deal more going on than any other band on there. I'm happy for X guitarist from X band who can play really fast, but that has absolutely nothing to do with "talent."

Quoted for truth. You know exactly what's going on, and for a moment i was afraid you might rag on devin, (is a devin townsend fanboy:p) but you didn't, so huzzah to you sir:). I actually think nearly everyone has the ability to shred at lightning speeds if they want, I myself just trained myself to shred whilst i was learning, but i find opeth songs difficult to play at times, yet i can play Yngwie stuff. Opeth is all about the diversity each instrument has when playing, and the wall of sound the group as a collective creates. It owns anything metalcore can dish out.

[whatduffhuck7]

Devin Townsend is great man, what are you talkiung about

[Grey Incision]

Devin Townsend is great man, what are you talkiung about

seriously, gtfo, you mustn't have even read my post at all

[Dannyboy15]

Devin Townsend is amazing. He just needs to shave his head.

[Grey Incision]

Devin Townsend is amazing. He just needs to shave his head.

Definatly :D. Have you heard The 'Infinity' album?

[Crysiss]

Is devin that bald dude from strapping young lad?
anywayz, as for whatduffhuck, i bet the guy doesn't even know who he is talking to.

[Det_Nosnip]

Hehe...for the record: I'm saying that SYL is one of the other decent bands on the tour. I like them and can't wait to catch them live, as I missed them when they went on tour for Alien because of ****ing senior sem. Hmmph....stupid...graduation. Overrated.

[Grey Incision]

Hehe...for the record: I'm saying that SYL is one of the other decent bands on the tour. I like them and can't wait to catch them live, as I missed them when they went on tour for Alien because of ****ing senior sem. Hmmph....stupid...graduation. Overrated.

SYL Is awesome, and even though Alien is a great album, i still think City holds their best work.

[Manticore Guy]

Hehe...for the record: I'm saying that SYL is one of the other decent bands on the tour. I like them and can't wait to catch them live, as I missed them when they went on tour for Alien because of ****ing senior sem. Hmmph....stupid...graduation. Overrated.

They were so good live, they should have been like 4th to last, instead of at like 3 o'clock in the afternoon :angry:

[Lateralias]

Hopefully I will catch Opeth live when they tour again soon, Mikael said that there will be more touring after the album and will probably be just Opeth, I can't wait!

[ZEROthirtythree]

I love Opeth. But about this arguement over their live performances, I have this to say:

I have never seen Opeth live, but I do own Lamentations. If I saw them live and they played like they did on the dvd, I would want my money back. Sorry, but everything was just too perfect. Every song sounded just like the recorded version. I would prefer them to play their songs different live. That's just me though.

Are they good live? Yes. But I personally don't like bands that are "good" live. Just my opinion.

[Lateralias]

I love Opeth. But about this arguement over their live performances, I have this to say:

I have never seen Opeth live, but I do own Lamentations. If I saw them live and they played like they did on the dvd, I would want my money back. Sorry, but everything was just too perfect. Every song sounded just like the recorded version. I would prefer them to play their songs different live. That's just me though.

Are they good live? Yes. But I personally don't like bands that are "good" live. Just my opinion.

Hmm.. that is an interesting take! I agree with you to some extent but I loved Lamentations. I love how Mikael forgot the original The Drapery Falls solo and just created a new one for live performances.

[Grey Incision]

I mentioned this a long time ago in this thread, but i actually thought mikael's clean vocal performance on lamentations was sloppy, and in general, i didn't dig the dvd much, it nearly sent me to sleep, even though they have a great live sound, the tone on the guitars is awesome :D

[Hababi]

I have never seen Opeth live, but I do own Lamentations. If I saw them live and they played like they did on the dvd, I would want my money back. Sorry, but everything was just too perfect. Every song sounded just like the recorded version. I would prefer them to play their songs different live. That's just me though.


I thought it wasn't quite like the recorded version, mainly because they lacked some of the harmonies that made the melodic songs so memorable. The guy on keyboard filled in on some but he couldn't have quite the same effect...Beyond that, I liked it...I wish they would've included Bleak, though.

[Grey Incision]

wow.............The biggest mod i've never heard of? :amaze:

[crazyc0w]

I saw Opeth live a few hours ago at tinley park...i love the band, it's too bad the sound at the tweeter center is such sh1t

[bucket]

wow.............The biggest mod i've never heard of? :amaze:

You mean the kewlest.

Hey fools how many dollar bills is Lamentations?

[Grey Incision]

You mean the kewlest.

Hey fools how many dollar bills is Lamentations?

yes, because those words roughly have the same amount of letters at first glance. from now on, if i call you a wanker i really mean friend ok?

EDIT: sorry dude, i'm still in pain, thus in a crabby as hell mood:(

[Nate22]

I've been listening to Opeth lately and really enjoying a lot of it. Only problem is I'm not a very big fan of death metal. So I was wondering if you guys might be able to reccomend me some stuff without much of the growling vocals. I already have ****ation, so anything else I'd really appreciate.

[Triangle]

I've been listening to Opeth lately and really enjoying a lot of it. Only problem is I'm not a very big fan of death metal. So I was wondering if you guys might be able to reccomend me some stuff without much of the growling vocals. I already have ****ation, so anything else I'd really appreciate.
Check out the track The Drapery Falls. That has more clean vocals than death (correct me if I'm wrong) and that really helped me to get into them.

[Slapping Penguin]

In Sereintiy Painted Death (Opeth) there is an acoustic riff with this werid effect over the top at 4:01 which is directly copied and sounds excatly the same as a riff out of the music for the computer game starcraft.

Go listen.

[Grey Incision]

To bid you farewell
Credence
Benighted
Face of Melinda
Harvest
Patterns in the ivy 2
Still day beneath the sun

Try the above for clean vocals, if you want something with a good mix and which sounds awesome, try these

The Moor
When
Bleak
Deliverance
Drapery falls
Moonlapse Vertigo

[Grey Incision]

In Sereintiy Painted Death (Opeth) there is an acoustic riff with this werid effect over the top at 4:01 which is directly copied and sounds excatly the same as a riff out of the music for the computer game starcraft.

Go listen.

I always thought it was wah