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Det_Nosnip
05-04-2005, 11:54 PM
Opeth are one of the few bands that have truly earned a 1,000,000+ fanbase. I'm confident they will not sell out.

Det Nosnip, on a related issue, have you seen either of the posts I've made in response to your posts about Nightwish's use of orchestra in "Once" as argument against them selling out?

Speaking of bands that won't sell out? ;)

Yes, I responded to your post in the After Forever thread. It's long since gone down the tubes, though....ah..

They did hire someone to arrange+conduct the symphonic sections, but I'm pretty sure that that was under the direction of the band (IE, Tuomas), and Tuomas wrote all of the music. He probably had most of the melodies and harmonies written out, and then collaborated with the arranger in order to make it work.

Either way, in terms of song structure, the songs on Century Child and Once are much more advanced. From a rhythmic standpoint, "Bless the Child" is probably the most complex song the band has ever done, featuring odd time signatures and hemiolas. The introduction to "Feel For You" features a rather proggish 9/4 time signature, and on both albums the band has experimented much more with different vocal styles, both with the introduction of Marco Hietala and with different approaches from Tarja.

The operatic power voice that she used alot on the earlier albums is great, and she'll always continue to use it during live performances because it projects better (Nemo sounds quite a bit different live than on the album), but at the same time I like that they're trying something different.

Speaking of "trying something different," there are a few tracks on "Once" that really stick out in that regard. "Ghost Love Score" is incredible, but there are others too - "The Siren," for example. I like bands that branch out and try different things, and if the group had continued to reproduce "Wishmaster" and "Oceanborn" for 10 years I think I would've given up on them a long time ago.

As for musicianship - Jukka's parts are actually quite a bit more involved and unique on the last two records than before, I'm not sure where you got that from. I really like the tones that he got on Wishmaster, and his playing has always been ridiculously clean and solid, but as far as impressive drumming goes, his best work has by far been on the last two records.

Emppu...I'd like to hear a few more guitar solos. His solos are a bit less technical, but they're also very melodic.

Marco's a much more impressive bass player than Sami, IMO, and his stage presence is fantastic.

Err...I think I had something in there about "Composition orientated music vs Performance orientated," and how Once is the former whereas traditional power metal is the latter.

Flynn
05-05-2005, 12:10 AM
Really, now...I think that people are overreacting about the Roadrunner thing. Sure, they have some pretty dumb bands on their label, but they also are very good at getting the **** albums into American stores. Opeth is not the kind of band to bow before mass appeal; they've been around for a really long time, and have a devoted fanbase. They have no reason to sell out, nor are they the type of musicians who would. All that this means is that us Americans will have a better time getting ahold of Opeth merchandise, and we may even see the band touring around the US more often.




I used to say that about Metallica when I was young.

Look at recent events. :upset:

James Van Halen
05-05-2005, 12:42 AM
History repeats itself.

Deth
05-05-2005, 09:00 AM
But Opeth will not explode like Metallica did, under any circumstance.

Det_Nosnip
05-05-2005, 12:18 PM
I used to say that about Metallica when I was young.

Look at recent events. :upset:

I think that the shock of Metallica's selling out comes more from naivete about the group during the 80's than any real change in ideology during the 90's. James Hetfield, from the beginning, said that all he really wanted was to be a rock star and to make alot of money being famous. Metallica began in the bay area, playing a sound that wasn't really all that different from what else was going on in the area. If anything, Metallica was the most commercial of all the bay area thrashers. Of course, none of us knew this at the time, and this is all retrospective, but as far as I can tell, there isn't too much of a progressive death movement centered around Opeth, and they're certainly not the most commercially orientated of bands. You simply don't become a pop sensation making 12 minute death metal songs with acoustic sections. :lol:

Some could say that ****ation was an attempt at securing a wider, more popular audience, but the record only really had success among the following of musicians, which is something that Metallica could never claim. Also, Opeth has been clear that the album was a 1-time thing; it was just an experiment, not a permanent change in the band's direction. Deliverance was released AFTER ****ation, and if anything, it's the band's least commercial release to date - too much even for many of the group's fans.

azbassman
05-05-2005, 02:22 PM
Everyone thinks that just because metallica sold out that every other band is now, and there only saying that because metallica WAS popular... so now all of a sudden every popular band is selling out...i used to like metallica (a very long time ago)....but now i hate them, and i dont think opeth will sell out

IvortheEngineDriver
05-05-2005, 04:12 PM
Det...you also have to point out that the style of ****ation is Mike's favorite genre. He loves that soft prog stuff, why do you think he loves PT so much and got SW to do BWP? (I'm acronym man, btw)

I think ****ation was more a homage to Mikes favorite genre. Also, again, with a lot of bands, its hard to define what "selling out" is. I mean, I don't think anyone of us wouldn't turn down the chance to make music for a living and be wealthy off of it. I think Opeth went down that road, I couldn't condemn them, it would be sad, but understandable. I think they are at the point when they dont need to, they are one of the most popular metal bands out right now and their albums are selling fairly well.

Opeth will go where Mike will take them and if he saw fit to make another ****ation album to be more popular, who are we to judge? I am not worried and I dont think anyone else should be. The guys in Opeth aren't concerned about money, they just wanna make music, just like the rest of us. There is a natural maturation with people, you really can't sing and write about the stuff that you used to do in your 20's, in your 30's, ya know?

Darkness
05-05-2005, 05:23 PM
I hope they don't over do the keyboards... if so, I think it would sound pretty stupid.


Not really a keyboard fan, but I don't mind some of it I guess.

Det_Nosnip
05-05-2005, 05:43 PM
Ah...I'm a big keyboard fan, myself. It'll probably be the next instrument I pick up, as they're great for composition being that you can do just about anything on a good synthesizer.

Ivor: I don't know if it's necessarily Mike's "favorite" genre, but he's definetly a big fan for sure. With musicians, it's kinda hard to figure out what one's "favorite" genre is; I tend to go back and forth between metal and jazz, myself. As far as drumming goes, Lopez really shined on ****ation, and it was by far his best work (contrary to popular myth, really fast double bass is *not* what makes a good drummer ;) ). I'd really like to see more of that mixed in with the rest of their music.

Flynn
05-05-2005, 07:56 PM
Find the word that doesn't belong.



Opeth
Opeth
Opeth
Roadrunner
Opeth

Magicaltroll
05-05-2005, 07:58 PM
Find the word that doesn't belong.



Opeth
Opeth
Opeth
Roadrunner
Opeth
:lol:

Flynn
05-05-2005, 10:39 PM
I <3 Opeth. :thumb:
Can't we all just get along?

Deth
05-06-2005, 08:56 AM
That's funny, you are a funny guy.

IvortheEngineDriver
05-06-2005, 10:31 AM
Ah...I'm a big keyboard fan, myself. It'll probably be the next instrument I pick up, as they're great for composition being that you can do just about anything on a good synthesizer.

Ivor: I don't know if it's necessarily Mike's "favorite" genre, but he's definetly a big fan for sure. With musicians, it's kinda hard to figure out what one's "favorite" genre is; I tend to go back and forth between metal and jazz, myself. As far as drumming goes, Lopez really shined on ****ation, and it was by far his best work (contrary to popular myth, really fast double bass is *not* what makes a good drummer ;) ). I'd really like to see more of that mixed in with the rest of their music.
Ahhh yes...the Latin percussion at the end of "Closure" is amazing. I think you are definately right about double bass (Haha, not a Portnoy fan, huh?) I think his fills on "In my time of Need" and "Ending Credits" are great

DesiOzymandias
05-06-2005, 09:23 PM
I dont know.Black Rose Immortal takes alot out of me once Im through with it.But I still enjoy every minute of it.I dont really care how long they are, as long as they are done well.The Moor is 11 and a half minutes long, but to me it feels likes its only 5 minutes.It finishes, and Im like "****, I want more!!!"

10-13 minutes would be good.


Yeah I feel the way about most of their songs actually, lol, half of their songs like godhead's lament, the moor, apostle in triumph, master's apprentice, night and silent water, ect ect ect ectttt, all feel like 3 min songs.... I love them all...

I wish all of their songs were like that, but I do agree, if the songs on ****ation were like 13 mins long, they'd be boring as hell X_X

DesiOzymandias
05-06-2005, 09:26 PM
in response to flynn, seeing as how the quote apparently isn't working...

LOL, BRI is 220 on mine, the highest one is roughly 830something....





















''Granted you, a hollow stare
Another soul within the divine herd...''[/QUOTE]

DesiOzymandias
05-06-2005, 09:29 PM
Which is why I'm glad that Godhead's Lament kicks in as it does. IMO there's not another song on the planet that could follow the Moor. :thumb: I actually like Godhead's a little better than the Moor.....the whole "Searching My Way to Perplexion" bit is amazing. The Moor probably has one of the top 5 greatest intros of all time, though.


Tru tru, but I swear man i thoroughly LOVE godhead's lament...
What would they care if I were to stay?
Noone should know. oooohhhh
that's my fav part for sure

tehn again, When is also a good song when he's like ' When shall we speak instead of whisper.... When can I take you from this place? ' ect ect ect,
but yeah i love the metal stuff, that then breaks into beautiful riffs when Mikael's using his normal singning voice *drool*

DesiOzymandias
05-06-2005, 09:30 PM
Still Life is just my favorite album in the whole wide world.I can listen to it over and over and never get sick of it.


Yeah I definatelly feel you on that, I listen to Still life the most for sure but hten again, I have all of their albums on one massive playlist, so i dont exactly listen to one album....I LOVE STILL LIFE!!!!!

DesiOzymandias
05-06-2005, 09:35 PM
Yeah. If they're going in a black metal direction, the Mellotrons, etc. would be neccesary, yes? Doesn't black metal have symphonic elements and keyboards/synths? This could be a sign that this is indeed a direction they're pursuing.

hell yeah, Opeth... More Black Metal... Mikael's voice.... *drool* i am officially in love!! haha, i hope the next album si released soon.... I can't wait !!!! << needs opethhh *drool* so glad i'm seeing them in the sounds of hte underground tour :-D

Darkness
05-06-2005, 09:38 PM
What would they care if I were to stay?
Noone should know. oooohhhh
that's my fav part for sure


I saw some guys making fun of this part on the another board saying:

"what would they care if I were gay? Noone would know... hoooooommoooooo"

I admit, I laughed.

DesiOzymandias
05-06-2005, 09:39 PM
You simply don't become a pop sensation making 12 minute death metal songs with acoustic sections. :lol:


lmfao, aint that the truth, can you imagine the radio?? X_X

DesiOzymandias
05-06-2005, 09:41 PM
I saw some guys making fun of this part on the another board saying:

"what would they care if I were gay? Noone would know... hoooooommoooooo"

I admit, I laughed.


haha, yeah that is quite funny, but the funniest part is, that the guys that are saying it probably have no musical taste -_- :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: NEVER F*CKING MAKE FUN OF OPETH IF YOU WANT TO LIVE >_< :evil:

Darkness
05-06-2005, 09:42 PM
It was on an Opeth board, they were all hardcore Opeth fans.

DesiOzymandias
05-06-2005, 09:45 PM
That's funny, you are a funny guy.


Yeah I agree, Flynn. I love you, You're like running this threat *big hug*

DesiOzymandias
05-06-2005, 09:46 PM
It was on an Opeth board, they were all hardcore Opeth fans.
what what whaat!?!? X_X oro.... well, it's funny, but that's my fav part, so i can't laugh at it...

(just relaized i posted like 10 posts in a roww)

Darkness
05-06-2005, 09:48 PM
Yeah man... slooooooooooow down...

I like that part of the song to, but I still laughed.

Det_Nosnip
05-07-2005, 01:43 AM
Ahhh yes...the Latin percussion at the end of "Closure" is amazing. Especially the extended version on Lamentations. :)

I think you are definately right about double bass (Haha, not a Portnoy fan, huh?) I think his fills on "In my time of Need" and "Ending Credits" are great

Well, I'm definetely not opposed to double bass by any means at all, I'm a double kick player myself, it just too often becomes a focus of awe for people. fast, clean double bass work is impressive in its own way, but it's not the Alpha and the Omega. As for Portnoy...he's not a bad player, and he's had some pretty cool ideas....they were just all about 10 years ago. I kinda feel like he hasn't really done anything new since Scenes, aside from having an even more ridiculously large kit. :lol:

opeth_oasis
05-07-2005, 06:08 AM
Especially the extended version on Lamentations. :)


Well, I'm definetely not opposed to double bass by any means at all, I'm a double kick player myself, it just too often becomes a focus of awe for people. fast, clean double bass work is impressive in its own way, but it's not the Alpha and the Omega. As for Portnoy...he's not a bad player, and he's had some pretty cool ideas....they were just all about 10 years ago. I kinda feel like he hasn't really done anything new since Scenes, aside from having an even more ridiculously large kit. :lol:

Yeah man, the extended ending on Lamentations is so awesome, i need a mp3 of it.

I wish everyone would give the roadrunner thing a rest, in the end its what the band wants.

Grey Incision
05-07-2005, 08:25 AM
haha, yeah that is quite funny, but the funniest part is, that the guys that are saying it probably have no musical taste -_- :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: NEVER F*CKING MAKE FUN OF OPETH IF YOU WANT TO LIVE >_< :evil:

I post on those boards, Mikael himself even posts on those boards, not often, but he does. He has a sense of humour you know? I mean, he laughs at himself and the band etc. when he posts on the boards. an excerpt was something like......

"I thought it would have dawned on you by know that i am in fact christ reincarnate. My carpenting skills are very good too. I got tired of the single stringed instruments in jerusalem and when i was reborn in Stockholm Sweden, the whole death metal scene really took me. Also I like the very satanic lyrics, don't tell my father though, he might ground me."

Somehting like that, can't remember and can't be bothered to find the real thing.

But yes, it is a simple joke, another one is
"face of melinda neath moustache hair"

Take it as a joke and lighten up

Darkness
05-07-2005, 10:05 AM
I remember that son of god thing, where some person posted a thread that like compared Mikeal to Jesus. Was kinda funny...

i am the robots
05-07-2005, 10:42 AM
Yes, Akerfeldt is the man.

DesiOzymandias
05-07-2005, 11:04 AM
I post on those boards, Mikael himself even posts on those boards, not often, but he does. He has a sense of humour you know? I mean, he laughs at himself and the band etc. when he posts on the boards. an excerpt was something like......

"I thought it would have dawned on you by know that i am in fact christ reincarnate. My carpenting skills are very good too. I got tired of the single stringed instruments in jerusalem and when i was reborn in Stockholm Sweden, the whole death metal scene really took me. Also I like the very satanic lyrics, don't tell my father though, he might ground me."

Somehting like that, can't remember and can't be bothered to find the real thing.

But yes, it is a simple joke, another one is
"face of melinda neath moustache hair"

Take it as a joke and lighten up


lol, I know iknow, I was laughin, that too was a joke, just not as apparent as the others ;)

Deth
05-07-2005, 06:27 PM
Is anyone is love with the drums at the beginning of Bleak? It gets me everytime.

Rothmans
05-07-2005, 07:18 PM
But on the Opeth forum everyone seems to love peter. Alot of people dont seem to like mikeal a lot.

Cain
05-07-2005, 07:25 PM
Why doesn't anyone like Mikael?

Rothmans
05-07-2005, 07:31 PM
Why doesn't anyone like Mikael?

I dont know I just use to see it when I zoomed across the boards.

I think he is cool myself though.

bucket
05-07-2005, 10:04 PM
I've never had that impression and I usually check in there once a week... :-\

DesiOzymandias
05-07-2005, 10:18 PM
whoa what're you talking about? i love mikael lol, idk, peters allright, although peter usually ends up getting the backdrop guitar stuff, and mikaels the lead, obviously, but eh, idk, personally i love mikael... we should start an i love mikael akderfeldt thread :-P

relliK
05-07-2005, 10:27 PM
Well, whoever doesnt like Akerfeldt obviously took no part in creating this site:

http://sexninja.shackspace.com/opethdeathcult/

^I dont know if they are serious or not.If so, thats taking it too far.

Det_Nosnip
05-07-2005, 10:35 PM
Why doesn't anyone like Mikael?

Hmm...Morningrise fans, maybe?*














*Lamentations documentary reference :D

Katana
05-07-2005, 10:36 PM
Woo hoo, Sounds of the Underground.

post count+1

Cain
05-07-2005, 10:37 PM
Hmm...Morningrise fans, maybe?*














*Lamentations documentary reference :D

Perhaps, yeah. :)

Flynn
05-08-2005, 12:57 AM
Well, whoever doesnt like Akerfeldt obviously took no part in creating this site:

http://sexninja.shackspace.com/opethdeathcult/

^I dont know if they are serious or not.If so, thats taking it too far.


wow...that's way too far. :amaze:

bball_1523
05-08-2005, 01:20 AM
Is anyone is love with the drums at the beginning of Bleak? It gets me everytime.

I love the drums, especially the tom rolls...it gets the song going perfectly.

Cain
05-08-2005, 01:22 AM
I love the drums, especially the tom rolls...it gets the song going perfectly.

I find the drumming in "Funeral Portrait" pretty good. The interlude with those nasty evil acoustics have some awesome fills.

It's a shame he had so much more to do in Deliverance, when the album's compositions weren't up to par.

James Van Halen
05-08-2005, 01:51 AM
"I thought it would have dawned on you by know that i am in fact christ reincarnate. My carpenting skills are very good too. I got tired of the single stringed instruments in jerusalem and when i was reborn in Stockholm Sweden, the whole death metal scene really took me. Also I like the very satanic lyrics, don't tell my father though, he might ground me."
Are Opeth a satanic band, or was he just referring to death metal itself?

Grey Incision
05-08-2005, 02:00 AM
Are Opeth a satanic band, or was he just referring to death metal itself?

He was just generalising, it's a joke and a common misconception that the music is satanic. That is what he was playing on.

bball_1523
05-08-2005, 02:02 AM
I find the drumming in "Funeral Portrait" pretty good. The interlude with those nasty evil acoustics have some awesome fills.

It's a shame he had so much more to do in Deliverance, when the album's compositions weren't up to par.

I guess we have different tastes, but I thought Deliverance was awesome compositionally. Wreath creates a depressing yet beautiful atmosphere with it's chord progressions and solos. Masters Apprentice is one of their famous songs that never goesn wrong. And By The Pain I see In Others is brilliant, especially the intro! Deliverance has some really nice moody riffs. I don't really see anything wrong with that album....it's amazing.

Det_Nosnip
05-08-2005, 11:16 AM
Yeah, it seems to be a bit underapreciated here. The title track is amazing. Some of the tracks feel like they stretch out to be a little too long (Opeth, go figure!), but overall it's definetly not a BAD album.

bucket
05-08-2005, 06:28 PM
/is obsessed with A Fair Judgement, especially the second solo

Mr. Ron
05-08-2005, 06:35 PM
/is obsessed with A Fair Judgement, especially the second solo
GREAT song, even better solos.

i am the robots
05-08-2005, 06:36 PM
GREAT song, even better solos.

Oh my lord yes!

Magicaltroll
05-08-2005, 06:50 PM
Oh my lord yes!
That song is just amazing on Lamentations...

*drools*

bball_1523
05-08-2005, 06:57 PM
I like the little classical sounding piece they play in that song.

i am the robots
05-08-2005, 07:14 PM
That song is just amazing on Lamentations...

*drools*

And a second "oh my God yes!"

bucket
05-08-2005, 08:32 PM
It feels like I miss out on a lot all because I don't have a DVD player :upset:

Oh Lamentations, when will I see you?

Shadows Rise
05-08-2005, 09:19 PM
anyone know when opeth tickets are going on sale for the tsongas arena in Lowell?

Magicaltroll
05-08-2005, 10:46 PM
It feels like I miss out on a lot all because I don't have a DVD player :upset:

Oh Lamentations, when will I see you?
I am so so sorry :(
You need to find a DVD player! Its god like, trust me.

Deth
05-09-2005, 08:38 AM
DVD players are dirt cheap, go pick one up.

Darkness
05-09-2005, 08:24 PM
Anybody got any good Opeth concert bootlegs? I'd like to see something live from them... (besides the dvd, as I can't find it anywhere)

Txus
05-09-2005, 09:02 PM
Anybody got any good Opeth concert bootlegs? I'd like to see something live from them... (besides the dvd, as I can't find it anywhere)

Try amazon.com , i think they have lamentation's dvd with dark tranquility live dvd 2 x 1 . :thumb:

Deth
05-09-2005, 09:03 PM
You must get Lamentations, I watched it again tonight (well, the heavy set anyway).

NP: Forest Of October

Det_Nosnip
05-09-2005, 09:21 PM
Anybody got any good Opeth concert bootlegs? I'd like to see something live from them... (besides the dvd, as I can't find it anywhere)

mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

Enjoy. :)

bucket
05-09-2005, 09:27 PM
My computer sucks weiny so all I can hear is the song... :-\

Every once in a while the picture changes.

I can hear my computer die.




Edit: Is there a way to save this so it wouldn't have to be streaming in from the internet?

PeEpHoLe_10
05-10-2005, 06:55 AM
Off topic, but oh well. Im wondering why alot of people don't seem to like ****ation very much?It has three of my favourite Opeth songs in Deliverance, A fair Judgment and Masters Apprentices on and the other songs are still pretty good. Why don't most people rate it very high?

Grey Incision
05-10-2005, 07:06 AM
Off topic, but oh well. Im wondering why alot of people don't seem to like ****ation very much?It has three of my favourite Opeth songs in Deliverance, A fair Judgment and Masters Apprentices on and the other songs are still pretty good. Why don't most people rate it very high?

that made no sense, ****ation has 3 of your favourite songs in deliverance? come again? they are two seperate deals, ****ation is a soft album, whereas deliverance is heavier and less complex than their other stuff.

PeEpHoLe_10
05-10-2005, 07:09 AM
me= very tired. mistake. i meant to say deliverance.

hope_leaves
05-10-2005, 06:34 PM
me= very tired. mistake. i meant to say deliverance.

I love Deliverance, but I have to say overall it's not as complex or diverse as their other albums, which could be why some Opeth fans don't like it as well. My personal favorites are Blackwater Park and My Arms, Your Hearse.

Flynn
05-10-2005, 06:50 PM
I love the album Deliverance!
I think it has to be Opeth's heaviest album.



This is creepy...I've listened to this many times and it seems really acurate.
At the end of By The Pain I See In Others, A recorded session of Akerfeldt is played backwards...

"Htaed otni yaw eht dael
Won resolc
Peels rof gnol
Gnivael dna
Yawa gnidaf

Tuohtiw Od Nac I Tahw
Em Gniwohs
Thgil Laerehte
Raeppasid Dna
Edaf Sruoloc
Ecnart Gnihtoos"


Read that backwards.

Magicaltroll
05-10-2005, 06:51 PM
I love Deliverance, but I have to say overall it's not as complex or diverse as their other albums, which could be why some Opeth fans don't like it as well. My personal favorites are Blackwater Park and My Arms, Your Hearse.
I really can't get into MAYH...
I don't know why.

Magicaltroll
05-10-2005, 06:55 PM
I love the album Deliverance!
I think it has to be Opeth's heaviest album.



This is creepy...I've listened to this many times and it seems really acurate.
At the end of By The Pain I See In Others, A recorded session of Akerfeldt is played backwards...

"Htaed otni yaw eht dael
Won resolc
Peels rof gnol
Gnivael dna
Yawa gnidaf

Tuohtiw Od Nac I Tahw
Em Gniwohs
Thgil Laerehte
Raeppasid Dna
Edaf Sruoloc
Ecnart Gnihtoos"


Read that backwards.

What are those lyrics from? I heard a rumor that those were from a song by Opeth.

Flynn
05-10-2005, 07:15 PM
What are those lyrics from? I heard a rumor that those were from a song by Opeth.


Read my post. It's at the end of By The Pain I See In Others.
Listen to the song till the CD ends. You can't miss it :thumb:




Soothing trance
Colours fade
And disappear
Ethereal light
Showing me
What I can do without


Fading away
And leaving
Long for sleep
Closer now
Lead the way into Death

Special Brew
05-10-2005, 07:18 PM
What are those lyrics from? I heard a rumor that those were from a song by Opeth.
You're not very bright are you?

Magicaltroll
05-10-2005, 07:31 PM
You're not very bright are you?
I thought it was from an older song by them because I read about that on another forum some time. I read them backwards aand I didn't instantly remember what they were from.
Sorry?

I'll listen to that song a little later to check it out.

EDIT- and that did seem really dumb when I said "a song by Opeth"... What I meant was an older song, sorry.

Darkness
05-10-2005, 07:31 PM
mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

Enjoy. :)
That was good man, thanks but I wanted to see more Blackwater Park stuff...

Deth
05-10-2005, 07:37 PM
Those are pretty cool backward lyrics. I can't write like that.

Det_Nosnip
05-10-2005, 09:29 PM
Write them out forwards first, then copy them backwards. ;)

relliK
05-10-2005, 11:56 PM
mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

Enjoy. :)

Is that the one that starts out with Godhead's Lament?Damnit, I ****in hate 56k!!! :upset:

Is it possible to rip that vid.I would appretiate it if someone were to do that. :)

Deth
05-11-2005, 07:58 PM
WARNING! This is extremely off-topic.

2Stranger, you said a while back you converted A Fair Judgement from the DVD to an audio file, how do you do that?

Darkness
05-11-2005, 08:00 PM
Is that the one that starts out with Godhead's Lament?
Yeah they played that song great. :thumb:

i am the robots
05-11-2005, 08:16 PM
I love the album Deliverance!
I think it has to be Opeth's heaviest album.



This is creepy...I've listened to this many times and it seems really acurate.
At the end of By The Pain I See In Others, A recorded session of Akerfeldt is played backwards...

"Htaed otni yaw eht dael
Won resolc
Peels rof gnol
Gnivael dna
Yawa gnidaf

Tuohtiw Od Nac I Tahw
Em Gniwohs
Thgil Laerehte
Raeppasid Dna
Edaf Sruoloc
Ecnart Gnihtoos"


Read that backwards.


They have a shirt for that, lol.

It's on their official merch site, and I have it too :D.

Darkness
05-11-2005, 08:25 PM
lead the way into death
closer now
long for sleep
and leaving
fading away
what i can do without
showing me
ethereal light
and disappear
colours fade
soothing trance

Am I reading it right?

i am the robots
05-11-2005, 08:28 PM
lead the way into death
closer now
long for sleep
and leaving
fading away
what i can do without
showing me
ethereal light
and disappear
colours fade
soothing trance

Am I reading it right?

I think it's meant to be:

Soothing trance
Colors fade
and disappear
Showing me
What I can do without
Fading away
and leaving
Long fore sleep
Closer now
Lead the way into death

either way it makes sense... that's really weird

TheCrimsonKing
05-11-2005, 08:32 PM
I like ****ation :). Opeth are really one of my favorite bands. I like the dvd lamentations I recommend it for those who dont have it

Kage
05-12-2005, 07:32 PM
Isn't Koch what they've been on for awhile?

Det_Nosnip
05-12-2005, 07:44 PM
Ugh....*checks nearest Opeth album he has lying around* So it was....I guess they just haven't updated that. Crap.

bucket
05-13-2005, 07:39 PM
mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

Can someone tell me if it's possible to save this on my computer? And how? It opens in Windows media player and I can't find any save options besides save playlist.

hope_leaves
05-16-2005, 11:46 AM
I really can't get into MAYH...
I don't know why.

Yeah, it took me awhile to really get into it, but now I love it. I think it's great how each song kind of flows into the next. It's almost like you're listening to one continuous song.

jpshortstuff
05-16-2005, 12:31 PM
got EDIT:BlackWater Park (sorry, i put deliverence) and love it

which do you suggest i get now?

Det_Nosnip
05-16-2005, 01:07 PM
Blackwater Park or Still Life.

bball_1523
05-16-2005, 01:27 PM
got deliverence and love it

which do you suggest i get know?

any album man, I'm serious, I think all their albums are worthy.

the2stranger
05-16-2005, 01:49 PM
WARNING! This is extremely off-topic.

2Stranger, you said a while back you converted A Fair Judgement from the DVD to an audio file, how do you do that?



hello, I haven't posted here in a long long time, just by chance I saw your post.

but anyways:

a friend of mine sent me a program called DVD audio ripper, and it allows you to rip dvd's (entirely, and a mp3 files)
it just takes very very long to get them ripped but it's worth it.
it's awesome, great Opeth recordings at 192 kbs bit rate.


well, and actually, I have the entire dvd ripped as mp3 files, including the documentary.

if you're having trouble finding the program (which should be floating around somewhere on p2p though) contact me on msn, and I'll hook you up with some sings.

cheers!

Special Brew
05-16-2005, 01:56 PM
mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

Enjoy. :)
:eek:

That was great!

Special Brew
05-16-2005, 02:55 PM
Anyone that likes Opeth will most likely enjoy Ensiferum as well. You guys may already know them, but they are great. Not quite as good as Opeth but still a very good death/folkish metal band.

Deth
05-18-2005, 09:20 AM
hello, I haven't posted here in a long long time, just by chance I saw your post.

but anyways:

a friend of mine sent me a program called DVD audio ripper, and it allows you to rip dvd's (entirely, and a mp3 files)
it just takes very very long to get them ripped but it's worth it.
it's awesome, great Opeth recordings at 192 kbs bit rate.


well, and actually, I have the entire dvd ripped as mp3 files, including the documentary.

if you're having trouble finding the program (which should be floating around somewhere on p2p though) contact me on msn, and I'll hook you up with some sings.

cheers!
I'll have a look for it, thank you.

Shred Danson
05-18-2005, 10:38 AM
got deliverence and love it

which do you suggest i get know?

Orchid and Blackwater Park.

Darkness
05-18-2005, 04:20 PM
Whats the tracklisting for Lamentations? just the heavy part please...

Hevy Tred
05-18-2005, 04:25 PM
Still life is my favorite album...

Try that one out jpshortstuff

Deth
05-20-2005, 03:45 PM
Whats the tracklisting for Lamentations? just the heavy part please...
Heavy is -
Masters Apprentices
The Drapery Falls
Deliverance
The Leper Affinity
A Fair Judgement

You know the rest I assume. Go buy it :thumb: .

Darkness
05-20-2005, 03:49 PM
Hmmm... no Blackwater Park? :(

Deth
05-20-2005, 03:51 PM
No, but that would have been cool.

Darkness
05-20-2005, 03:52 PM
Yeah, they better play that + some Still Life stuff at Sounds of the underground...

relliK
05-20-2005, 11:22 PM
Ok, so the deal with RoadRunner is now official.

Still Life
05-20-2005, 11:38 PM
Ok, so the deal with RoadRunner is now official.

That make me kinda nervous. I look forward to hear some new material.

relliK
05-20-2005, 11:49 PM
Meh.I have faith in the guys.Im sure this wont stop them from making quality music.RR is very aware of their huge fanbase, so they wont touch them musically.Anyway.....heres the Blabbermouth article:

As BLABBERMOUTH.NET first reported on April 18, OPETH mainman Mikael Åkerfeldt has now officially confirmed to MTV.com that the band have finalized a deal with New York's Roadrunner Records, bolstering an imposing roster that already includes KILLSWITCH ENGAGE, SLIPKNOT, OBITUARY and CRADLE OF FILTH.

Åkerfeldt disclosed several details about the band's forthcoming, self-produced opus. The follow-up to 2003's acoustic masterpiece, "****ation", and OPETH's first disc in years without producer Steve Wilson, the album will include "Ghost of Tradition", "The Baying of the Hounds" and "Isolation Years".

"Musically, '****ation' was an experiment for us," Åkerfeldt told MTV.com. "It also helped us to develop our sound. So this time around, you can say the overall record is going to be heavy-sounding. There's also a couple of songs that are more in the style of '****ation', so to speak. We also have a new member in the band, our keyboard player, Per Wiberg. So we have some vintage keyboards this time around on the heavy material as well. Overall, this one is heavy."

Åkerfeldt said OPETH will finish the record before month's end and expect to release it as early as late August. He also said they'll play some new material this summer as part of the inaugural Sounds of the Underground tour.

"We've never done anything like [a festival tour] before, but this is a new thing, so we're excited," he said. "It's a good chance to reach out to people who've never heard from us. I'm also looking forward to seeing STRAPPING YOUNG LAD and CLUTCH perform. Many of the bands on the tour I've never heard of."

Futuro
05-20-2005, 11:55 PM
im going a little off topic guys but do you think i would like them? i listen to stuff like tool and dream theater, but if they have one of the growler dudes as a lead singer count me out already. im also having a hard time to find any music online from them to stream, any suggestions?

sorry this question sounds retarded but......ah oh well

bball_1523
05-21-2005, 01:17 AM
As long as Opeth doesn't change their style JUST to make money, I'm ok with them on RR.

Magicaltroll
05-21-2005, 01:28 AM
Åkerfeldt disclosed several details about the band's forthcoming, self-produced opus. The follow-up to 2003's acoustic masterpiece, "****ation", and OPETH's first disc in years without producer Steve Wilson, the album will include "Ghost of Tradition", "The Baying of the Hounds" and "Isolation Years".

Cool.

Det_Nosnip
05-21-2005, 02:02 AM
im going a little off topic guys but do you think i would like them? i listen to stuff like tool and dream theater, but if they have one of the growler dudes as a lead singer count me out already. im also having a hard time to find any music online from them to stream, any suggestions?

sorry this question sounds retarded but......ah oh well

:( If you're that opposed to growling, then most of their stuff might not be for you. You may enjoy the Dam nation album, however, as it is all clean vocals.

PeEpHoLe_10
05-21-2005, 08:08 AM
im going a little off topic guys but do you think i would like them? i listen to stuff like tool and dream theater, but if they have one of the growler dudes as a lead singer count me out already. im also having a hard time to find any music online from them to stream, any suggestions?

sorry this question sounds retarded but......ah oh well

I used to HATE growling until i began listening to Opeth. You just have to give it time. Now they are one of my favourite bands.

I think one of their fan sites has streams of some of their songs. Just type Opeth into google and go through, you will probably find something. :thumb:

the2stranger
05-21-2005, 08:22 AM
im going a little off topic guys but do you think i would like them? i listen to stuff like tool and dream theater, but if they have one of the growler dudes as a lead singer count me out already. im also having a hard time to find any music online from them to stream, any suggestions?

sorry this question sounds retarded but......ah oh well


you should really give the growling vocals some time, believe me, they will grow on you.
at first I was like: 'they write exellent riffs, but why those vocals over top of that, ruining the song? :( '

but now I've come to appreciate them, I noticed how great they mix, and how well this is an addition to the music.
this may sound weird, but the growls improve the emotion-feel of the song.

for example:
The moor of the still life album.

when Mikael growls 'No mercy would help me on my way
In the pouring rain nothing is the same.'
that's just so full of emotion, you can feel the pain in his growl

Adam Jones is GOD
05-21-2005, 08:37 AM
I managed to get into the growl vocals on BWP and Still Life quickly, to the point where i now wish I could growl myself.

However, I still cannot get into the earlier growls on Morningrise. Those take some serious time to adjust to I feel.

Deth
05-21-2005, 07:53 PM
BWP was my first album with growling, and before I bought it, I hated growling. After the first listen it grew on me infinitly. Give it a try.

I like the Morningrise growls myself though, I think the curve into those may be easier for the uninitiated.

NP: Porcupine Tree - Trains

Det_Nosnip
05-21-2005, 09:30 PM
Speaking of Porcupine Tree...I'm seeing them next friday. :)

Grey Incision
05-21-2005, 11:48 PM
Speaking of Porcupine Tree...I'm seeing them next friday. :)

Take pictures and post them up:)?

bucket
05-22-2005, 12:32 AM
Speaking of Porcupine Tree...I'm seeing them next friday. :)

Is that in Cincinnatti?

Det_Nosnip
05-22-2005, 02:27 AM
Chicago, actually. The venue doesn't allow cameras that I know of, may be kinda hard. :(

Grey Incision
05-22-2005, 03:34 AM
Chicago, actually. The venue doesn't allow cameras that I know of, may be kinda hard. :(

so.........sneak one in, hidden in a big cowboy hat :cool:

Det_Nosnip
05-22-2005, 11:56 AM
^^ Haha I'm originally from Texas, but I don't actually own a Cowboy hat at the moment. :(

Deth
05-23-2005, 08:54 AM
I bought Deliverance yesterday. It's a really good album, but it didn't wow me like the other albums. I think my favorite track is A Fair Judgement, the atmosphere is amazing.

ElectricalStorm
05-23-2005, 02:32 PM
Chicago, actually. The venue doesn't allow cameras that I know of, may be kinda hard. :(

I wish I had known about this earlier, I think I may still be able to get tickets though. I'll see what I can do, I also figure parking will be a problem judging from the location.

Are you also going to see Opeth this summer as well?

Det_Nosnip
05-23-2005, 02:52 PM
Yeah. I believe I'm going to be back home, though, so I'll probably catch the Dallas show. $30 bucks for Opeth and Strapping Young Lad...I'd be an idiot for sure to miss that!

Rothmans
05-23-2005, 02:54 PM
I would love to see Opeth live that would be brilliant I loved Lamentations.

Oh well....

Lateralias
05-23-2005, 03:07 PM
I'm glad this thread didn't go crazy due to the news of Opeth officialy signing with RR records... to all those who fear that Opeth might possibly change their style because of RR, or Roadrunner trying to sell out Opeth faster than cocaine... here is a quote straight from Mikael on the official Opeth forums...

"Hand on heart do you truly believe we'd compromize our sounds for anyone or anything? I'd bitchslap any outsider trying to interfere with our vibes!"

This sure gave me a smile, so I wouldn't worry about the band being convinced or forced to change their sound... I trust Mikael knows ALOT better than that.

Besides RR has had some good bands back in the day, they might have some questionable bands signed now (besides Opeth or Obituary :) ) but maybe Opeth can break that curse from them.

Deth
05-23-2005, 03:28 PM
I'd bitchslap any outsider trying to interfere with our vibes!"

Got to love that line. I think he'll be bitchslaping some execs though.

Mr. Ron
05-23-2005, 04:22 PM
I'm glad this thread didn't go crazy due to the news of Opeth officialy signing with RR records... to all those who fear that Opeth might possibly change their style because of RR, or Roadrunner trying to sell out Opeth faster than cocaine... here is a quote straight from Mikael on the official Opeth forums...

"Hand on heart do you truly believe we'd compromize our sounds for anyone or anything? I'd bitchslap any outsider trying to interfere with our vibes!"

This sure gave me a smile, so I wouldn't worry about the band being convinced or forced to change their sound... I trust Mikael knows ALOT better than that.

Besides RR has had some good bands back in the day, they might have some questionable bands signed now (besides Opeth or Obituary :) ) but maybe Opeth can break that curse from them.

Opeth are signing with Roadrunner Records????

............The world is coming to an end............ :upset:

Cardboard Headgear
05-23-2005, 05:19 PM
Opeth are signing with Roadrunner Records????

............The world is coming to an end............ :upset:

Shadup.

Mr. Ron
05-23-2005, 05:25 PM
Shadup.
I was exadurating. :p

Kage
05-23-2005, 05:26 PM
Who gives a **** what label they're on?

Cain
05-23-2005, 05:30 PM
you should really give the growling vocals some time, believe me, they will grow on you.
at first I was like: 'they write exellent riffs, but why those vocals over top of that, ruining the song? :( '

but now I've come to appreciate them, I noticed how great they mix, and how well this is an addition to the music.
this may sound weird, but the growls improve the emotion-feel of the song.

for example:
The moor of the still life album.

when Mikael growls 'No mercy would help me on my way
In the pouring rain nothing is the same.'
that's just so full of emotion, you can feel the pain in his growl

After a while, the growls themselves have melodies and notes. :eek: Kinda nuts, huh?

Mr. Ron
05-23-2005, 06:03 PM
Any news of their new album?

SatchBooG3ie
05-23-2005, 06:32 PM
"We can now officially announce that Opeth has signed a worldwide contract with Roadrunner records. The rumours were true! The new album is set to be released sometime in the late August or early September of 2005.

Opeth has cancelled their Vienna/Austria Aerodromme festival appearance (May 27) due to the recording taking longer time than expected. We are very sorry for the fans who expected to see Opeth there, but we hope to return to Austria as soon as humanly possible!

The recording process is going well. One song is mixed and done, another one in the process of being mixed. Solos are being recorded as well as death screams. Some songtitles? "Ghost of perdition", "The baying of the hounds", "Isolation years" and "Harlequin forest" The record plan to be done by June 1.


Opeth are most likely to appear at Bergen/Norway´s Hole in the sky festival (August 24-27) as well as the semi legendary Summerbreeze (August 18-20) fest in Germany. We will confirm this as soon as it´s....confirmed!"

Taken from Opeth.com

Opeth is now officially on Roadrunner Records.

Kage
05-23-2005, 07:04 PM
The song titles on the new album sound great. Can't wait for it.

Mr. Ron
05-23-2005, 07:15 PM
Oooooooo I like the song titles.

Deth
05-23-2005, 07:50 PM
The title sound Opethian, so that's good. (And yes, opethian is a word now).

Mr. Ron
05-23-2005, 07:56 PM
I heard rumors that the album theme is going to have to do with the occult?

Deth
05-23-2005, 07:57 PM
On Lamentations, Mikeal said he was considering doing a concept album based on the occult, so that would be interesting I'm sure.

bball_1523
05-23-2005, 08:12 PM
I heard rumors that the album theme is going to have to do with the occult?

I also heard that, but I also heard that they trashed the idea.

Mr. Ron
05-23-2005, 08:21 PM
i think it would be interesting for Opeth to take a darker approach to their songs. Not that most of them aren't dark to start with. :p

Kage
05-23-2005, 08:25 PM
What are you talking about? Their songs are all really dark.

Det_Nosnip
05-23-2005, 08:27 PM
After a while, the growls themselves have melodies and notes. :eek: Kinda nuts, huh?

Well, I see growling vocals as kind of like a natural form of vocal distortion. It's kinda weird if you think about it how almost everyone can listen to a distorted guitar, yet only a privileged few enjoy harsh vocals. ;)

Deth
05-23-2005, 08:28 PM
/listens to The Drapery Falls. Yeah, it's dark.

/listens to Master's Apprentices, yeah, that's really dark.

Lateralias
05-23-2005, 10:11 PM
Even a good majority of the ****ation songs have that dark vibe to them, Closure for example, also Death Wispered a Lullaby.

But dark does not mean the music cannot be beautiful at the same time.

Darkness
05-23-2005, 10:22 PM
Man, my cd store doesn't stock anything before Blackwater Park... its kinda annoying. I really want to buy Still Life, even though I have a burnt copy..

ElectricalStorm
05-23-2005, 10:45 PM
Well, I see growling vocals as kind of like a natural form of vocal distortion. It's kinda weird if you think about it how almost everyone can listen to a distorted guitar, yet only a privileged few enjoy harsh vocals. ;)

Sorry for being off topic but....I managed to get PT tickets :thumb: Do you know what the setlist is?

This is going to be a great summer for concerts.

Lateralias
05-23-2005, 10:46 PM
Man, my cd store doesn't stock anything before Blackwater Park... its kinda annoying. I really want to buy Still Life, even though I have a burnt copy..

Amazon is good for finding CDs that you can't find at local shops, plus they have free shipping for orders over like $25 I think

Deth
05-24-2005, 08:41 AM
Check this out:

Sweden's OPETH have posted the following message on their official web site:

"We can now officially announce that OPETH has signed a worldwide contract with Roadrunner records. The rumours were true! The new album is set to be released sometime in the late August or early September of 2005.

"OPETH has cancelled their Vienna/Austria Aerodrome festival appearance (May 27) due to the recording taking longer time than expected. We are very sorry for the fans who expected to see OPETH there, but we hope to return to Austria as soon as humanly possible!

"The recording process is going well. One song is mixed and done, another one in the process of being mixed. Solos are being recorded as well as death screams. Some songtitles? 'Ghost of Perdition', 'The Baying of the Hounds', 'Isolation Years' and 'Harlequin Forest'. The record plan to be done by June 1.

"OPETH are most likely to appear at Bergen/Norway's Hole in the sky festival (August 24-27) as well as the semi legendary Summer Breeze (August 18-20) fest in Germany. We will confirm this as soon as it's....confirmed!"

Yay!

bball_1523
05-24-2005, 08:45 AM
Check this out:

Sweden's OPETH have posted the following message on their official web site:

"We can now officially announce that OPETH has signed a worldwide contract with Roadrunner records. The rumours were true! The new album is set to be released sometime in the late August or early September of 2005.

"OPETH has cancelled their Vienna/Austria Aerodrome festival appearance (May 27) due to the recording taking longer time than expected. We are very sorry for the fans who expected to see OPETH there, but we hope to return to Austria as soon as humanly possible!

"The recording process is going well. One song is mixed and done, another one in the process of being mixed. Solos are being recorded as well as death screams. Some songtitles? 'Ghost of Perdition', 'The Baying of the Hounds', 'Isolation Years' and 'Harlequin Forest'. The record plan to be done by June 1.

"OPETH are most likely to appear at Bergen/Norway's Hole in the sky festival (August 24-27) as well as the semi legendary Summer Breeze (August 18-20) fest in Germany. We will confirm this as soon as it's....confirmed!"

Yay!

dude, someone else posted the exact same message a few posts earlier on this same page. lol

Deth
05-24-2005, 08:55 AM
Guess that's what happens when you don't show up for a while. Sorry.

beaNN
05-24-2005, 08:59 AM
Check this out:

Sweden's OPETH have posted the following message on their official web site:

"We can now officially announce that OPETH has signed a worldwide contract with Roadrunner records. The rumours were true! The new album is set to be released sometime in the late August or early September of 2005.

"OPETH has cancelled their Vienna/Austria Aerodrome festival appearance (May 27) due to the recording taking longer time than expected. We are very sorry for the fans who expected to see OPETH there, but we hope to return to Austria as soon as humanly possible!

"The recording process is going well. One song is mixed and done, another one in the process of being mixed. Solos are being recorded as well as death screams. Some songtitles? 'Ghost of Perdition', 'The Baying of the Hounds', 'Isolation Years' and 'Harlequin Forest'. The record plan to be done by June 1.

"OPETH are most likely to appear at Bergen/Norway's Hole in the sky festival (August 24-27) as well as the semi legendary Summer Breeze (August 18-20) fest in Germany. We will confirm this as soon as it's....confirmed!"

Yay!
lol yea they did but I still haven't read it yet so thanks, should be interesting to see what Opeths new albums like on Roadrunner.

Det_Nosnip
05-24-2005, 11:38 AM
Probably pretty similar to what it would have been like on Nuclear Blast or Century Media, but easier to get ahold of. :p

Deth
05-24-2005, 01:49 PM
Century Media >>>>>> Roadrunner.

They would have fit in much better at Century Media IMO.

Ironman/m\
05-24-2005, 09:56 PM
if you like opeth you should visit this forum it is very informative and pleaase register http://s10.invisionfree.com/The_Leper_Affinity/index.php?act=idx

Darkness
05-26-2005, 05:33 PM
Does anybody else like the work Mikeal did with Bloodbath?

I thought they made a pretty cool record... for its genre anyway.

/is trying to raise discussion in this dead thread.

Kage
05-26-2005, 05:36 PM
It needs it... :)

I've never heard Bloodbath...what kind of music is it?

Darkness
05-26-2005, 05:39 PM
I believe brutal death metal is the right title for the genre. But its not like stupid brutal, and thus it doesn't suck. (how could anything with Mike suck anyway?)

Songs to check out = Ways to the grave, Like fire, Trail of insects.

Mr. Ron
05-26-2005, 10:21 PM
I believe brutal death metal is the right title for the genre. But its not like stupid brutal, and thus it doesn't suck. (how could anything with Mike suck anyway?)

Songs to check out = Ways to the grave, Like fire, Trail of insects.
Have any songs to upload?

EDIT: Just listened to ways to the grave. Sounds amazing.

Darkness
05-26-2005, 10:22 PM
Uploading 2 songs now... wait for this post to be edited.


Edit: here we go... like fire and ways to the grave.

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1OH7A4M8S47421FGPOANBLNAWT

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TCQ1QJ94YI5D0HON7FSKFR8XJ


Warning: if your not a fan of pretty heavy deathmetal, don't listen to these.

Mr. Ron
05-26-2005, 10:35 PM
Uploading 2 songs now... wait for this post to be edited.


Edit: here we go... like fire and ways to the grave.

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1OH7A4M8S47421FGPOANBLNAWT

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TCQ1QJ94YI5D0HON7FSKFR8XJ


Warning: if your not a fan of pretty heavy deathmetal, don't listen to these.
They sound awesome. :thumb:




I'm listening to "Windowpane" off of Damnation. That song has to be one of the best mellow songs ever written.

Darkness
05-26-2005, 10:37 PM
^Thats my favorite off Damnation for sure. That and Death Whispered a lullaby

Mr. Ron
05-26-2005, 10:41 PM
^Thats my favorite off Damnation for sure. That and Death Whispered a lullaby
Heh, listening to that right now. Yeah the whole album is truely beautiful.

Magicaltroll
05-26-2005, 10:45 PM
I like Closure and Hope Leaves the best.
The whole album is a masterpeice though if you ask me.

Mr. Ron
05-26-2005, 10:47 PM
Did Damnation have a concept behind it?

Darkness
05-26-2005, 11:00 PM
Did ****ation have a concept behind it?
I don't think so, but I haven't annalyzed the lyrics very closly.

Another good Bloodbath song, Trail of insects:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0BNPG5FR0TEY22KT4M8M2OZAMR

Det_Nosnip
05-27-2005, 12:40 AM
I really like "In My Time of Need," off of that album. The vocal polyrhythm in the beginning rocks. :cool:

Cardboard Headgear
05-27-2005, 01:04 AM
Did Damnation have a concept behind it?
No, the only ones with concepts are MAYH and Still Life.

Deth
05-27-2005, 08:55 AM
Bloodbath is pretty good. I don't like the production though. Bring in Steven Wilson!

LeperAffinity
05-27-2005, 09:00 AM
Bloodbath is pretty good. I don't like the production though. Bring in Steven Wilson!
It's intended to sound like that. It was their tribute to old school swedish death metal, with the buzzing guitar tone, and gore lyrics.

Deth
05-27-2005, 09:09 AM
I'm just obsessed with Wilson's production since buying Deliverance and getting into PT. He makes the best sounding records I've ever heard.

Mr. Ron
05-27-2005, 12:29 PM
I'm just obsessed with Wilson's production since buying Deliverance and getting into PT. He makes the best sounding records I've ever heard.
123

I have to pick up dead wing sometime. I have in absentina.

Lateralias
05-27-2005, 12:33 PM
123

I have to pick up dead wing sometime. I have in absentina.

Check out earlier stuff like Stupid Dream, Lightbulb Sun and even Signify if you haven't already... very prog-ish PT. You'll most likely have to DL this stuff though because the earlier albums are rare.

Kage
05-27-2005, 12:38 PM
I'm just obsessed with Wilson's production since buying Deliverance and getting into PT. He makes the best sounding records I've ever heard.
In my opinion, Blackwater Park is his best-produced Opeth record. But yes, his PT stuff is amazing.

relliK
05-28-2005, 12:20 AM
Death Delirium and Cry My Name are also great Bloodbath songs.

Flynn
05-28-2005, 12:58 AM
I've been listening to Deliverance a lot lately...It goes in seasons I guess...
















Through the eternal flame I travel...
...As the rain keeps falling...

The Flabbit Rides High
05-28-2005, 09:43 AM
But the new albums going to be done alone..........

Might this signify a move back towards MAYH?

God I hope so.

Magicaltroll
05-28-2005, 09:47 AM
But the new albums going to be done alone...
Whats that mean?

Darkness
05-28-2005, 10:12 AM
Without Steven Wilson I think.

bucket
05-28-2005, 10:17 AM
I've been listening to MAYH a lot lately. I never really listened to it before for some reason, but d*mn, it's like I bought a new Opeth CD or something.

:thumb:

Credence is pretty lame though :thumbsdown:

...probably because my friend sings the first line in it everyday.

LeperAffinity
05-28-2005, 10:56 AM
I've been listening to MAYH a lot lately. I never really listened to it before for some reason, but d*mn, it's like I bought a new Opeth CD or something.

:thumb:

Credence is pretty lame though :thumbsdown:

...probably because my friend sings the first line in it everyday.
BLASPHEMY.

Credence is one of the best non-heavy songs they've written. ven before the vocals come in, the low guitar is just so haunting and perfect.

Darkness
05-28-2005, 08:05 PM
Got Lamentations today. I was so happy... I'm ganna watch it later tonight.

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 08:08 PM
Got Lamentations today. I was so happy... I'm ganna watch it later tonight.
The live performences are played very well.

The interview is pretty good also. :thumb:

Darkness
05-28-2005, 08:09 PM
I wish there was more heavy songs on that tracklisting...

Knifeboy
05-28-2005, 08:14 PM
Hey guys!, Here's a short clip of me doing part of the acoust part of The Drapery Falls:
http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17ATIRVI7I6TX3QM04NAR9S2CJ
I'd be glad if you listened and commented

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 08:16 PM
Hey guys!, Here's a short clip of me doing part of the acoust part of The Drapery Falls:
http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17ATIRVI7I6TX3QM04NAR9S2CJ
I'd be glad if you listened and commented
Pretty good. :thumb:

Knifeboy
05-28-2005, 08:17 PM
Thanks!.. I wish I had time to cover the rest of the song.. Damned homework..

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 08:27 PM
Thanks!.. I wish I had time to cover the rest of the song.. Damned homework..
Screw homework! Opeth is much more important! :p

Knifeboy
05-28-2005, 08:29 PM
Hehe. That's basicly what I've been doing today!.. But.. .. That's not good, because I have to hand a paper in on monday, and right now, I have no idea how the **** to solve these math problems :upset:

relliK
05-28-2005, 08:43 PM
I have to do alot of bookwork this weekend.If I dont do it, I wont graduate.But here I am, listening to the new Nile cd instead.Music in general, has ****ed up my life.

relliK
05-28-2005, 08:45 PM
Hey guys!, Here's a short clip of me doing part of the acoust part of The Drapery Falls:
http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17ATIRVI7I6TX3QM04NAR9S2CJ
I'd be glad if you listened and commented

Pretty good.I can never play it that clean.How'd you get your voice to have that "telephone" effect?

Cain
05-28-2005, 08:47 PM
I have to do alot of bookwork this weekend.If I dont do it, I wont graduate.But here I am, listening to the new Nile cd instead.Music in general, has ****ed up my life.

Don't be such a pessimist. If music is what matters to you the most, then you're going to have to live with the fact that, as an artistic career or hobby, other unrelated issues that also happen to be important will be constantly infringing on your time and musical enjoyment. It takes a sharp and organized mind to balance the time out effectively. Take it from a kid that did not do his homework ever and instead played guitar all the time, and was always trying to reconcile whether math homework mattered since guitar also mattered. :) It's something to live with. Get your work done, dude. And then start balancing.

Cain
05-28-2005, 08:51 PM
Hey guys!, Here's a short clip of me doing part of the acoust part of The Drapery Falls:
http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17ATIRVI7I6TX3QM04NAR9S2CJ
I'd be glad if you listened and commented

Dude, go out and get vocal lessons RIGHT NOW. Your voice is PERFECT for this kind of stuff, and if you could just get it trained for intonation and projection, it'll kick ***. You have a very pleasent timbre to your voice but it's hampered by the improper intonation on the higher notes and also the shyness with which you sing. I'm serious, man. If you get that voice into shape, it'll rock.

And the acoustic sounds great. Very cleanly played. I'm quite impressed, my friend. :thumb:

relliK
05-28-2005, 08:53 PM
Haha, I didnt say it was a bad thing.I love the fact that music is such a big part of my life.I'd go crazy without it.I drive like an ******* when I dont have a cd in my cd player.

I plan to just put some headphones on and start working, it passes by way quicker.

relliK
05-28-2005, 08:55 PM
I can't play the intro riff of The Drapery Falls.My short "sausage link" fingers wont allow that to go down.

Deth
05-28-2005, 08:55 PM
We should do what they are doing in the Metallica thread and do an MX cover of an Opeth track.

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 08:59 PM
I say we all cover Black rose immortal. I'm sure we can get it all down in a few days. :D

Deth
05-28-2005, 09:01 PM
psssttt...few hours, tops.

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 09:02 PM
psssttt...few hours, tops.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure my "first act" guitar I picked up at walmart for $75 will be sufficiant for lead guitar.

Deth
05-28-2005, 09:05 PM
Sure, Wal-Mart makes great quality products.

It would be cool if we could do a cover though.

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 09:07 PM
Sure, Wal-Mart makes great quality products.

It would be cool if we could do a cover though.
heh, just to clear things up, I don't even own a guitar.....going to soon though.


It would take a loonngggg time to do a cover Of Black rose immortal though, but the fruits of our labor would be spectacular.

Deth
05-28-2005, 09:08 PM
All of the other offical threads would bow down to the mighty Opeth thread.

The Drapery Falls or maybe Demon Of The Fall would be better choices though.

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 09:12 PM
All of the other offical threads would bow down to the mighty Opeth thread.

The Drapery Falls or maybe Demon Of The Fall would be better choices though.
Hmm....how about Harvest?

Deth
05-28-2005, 09:13 PM
We need a song with growling...duh.

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 09:15 PM
The Funeral Portrait?

relliK
05-28-2005, 09:15 PM
But who can do Mikael's growls justice?

I can...............................for about 4 seconds.

Flynn
05-28-2005, 09:17 PM
Me too...then I pass out.

Deth
05-28-2005, 09:17 PM
My growling has gotten a lot better lately, but I can only go about a verse.

I'm sure someone here can do it.

Goodnight everyone, I'm tired.

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 09:21 PM
It's all in the lungs. To get deeper, longer growels, you need to expand them. Jog a lot.

bball_1523
05-28-2005, 09:35 PM
I would love to do an opeth cover with you all.

Do any of you have any clips of you playing Opeth tracks or doing growls?

Rothmans
05-28-2005, 09:35 PM
I just practiced alot when it came to growls someone told me to sing with your stomach not with your throat (never knew what it really meant) but for some reason when I kept telling myself that I got a whole lot better.

bball_1523
05-28-2005, 09:38 PM
I just practiced alot when it came to growls someone told me to sing with your stomach not with your throat (never knew what it really meant) but for some reason when I kept telling myself that I got a whole lot better.


yes singing is done with the diaphragm around the stomach area.

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 09:41 PM
it's important on how you open your mouth when you sing also.

i am the robots
05-28-2005, 09:55 PM
We need a song with growling...duh.

Advent, now.

Darkness
05-28-2005, 11:07 PM
I have a really nice growl, but I can go only for a little while. My friend can go longer but his isn't as good. If you give me about 3 or 4 days I can do a whole song.

Note: I can't do clean vocals, I'm really monotone that way.

Grey Incision
05-28-2005, 11:31 PM
guess what people. i can growl and do clean vocals half decent. My guitar playing is up to the mark too:) now................if only i had some recording equipment:(

Darkness
05-28-2005, 11:42 PM
Oh yeah, I can do some guitar to.

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 11:46 PM
Cowbell.....I can do cowbell.

Darkness
05-28-2005, 11:48 PM
I can already tell you will be the most usefull member here. :D

Mr. Ron
05-28-2005, 11:50 PM
I can already tell you will be the most usefull member here. :D
Too bad not many Opeth songs feature the cowbell. :upset:

bball_1523
05-29-2005, 12:18 AM
let's do the drapery falls....and let's all contribute to the song.

For example:

Intro Acoustic: person 1
Intro Distortion: person 2
Intro Lead: person 3
Intro drums: person 4
Intro bass: person 5
Verse Acoustic A: person 6
Verse Acoustic B: person 7
etc...etc...

Or we could select several people for one song (drapery falls) then several other person for another song and do multiple covers.

what do you guys think?

Grey Incision
05-29-2005, 12:52 AM
let's do the drapery falls....and let's all contribute to the song.

For example:

Intro Acoustic: person 1
Intro Distortion: person 2
Intro Lead: person 3
Intro drums: person 4
Intro bass: person 5
Verse Acoustic A: person 6
Verse Acoustic B: person 7
etc...etc...

Or we could select several people for one song (drapery falls) then several other person for another song and do multiple covers.

what do you guys think?

I'd definatly be up for that, if i can find a friend with some recording stuff

Knifeboy
05-29-2005, 05:26 AM
Pretty good.I can never play it that clean.How'd you get your voice to have that "telephone" effect?

I messed around with something called FFT filters.

Dude, go out and get vocal lessons RIGHT NOW. Your voice is PERFECT for this kind of stuff, and if you could just get it trained for intonation and projection, it'll kick ***. You have a very pleasent timbre to your voice but it's hampered by the improper intonation on the higher notes and also the shyness with which you sing. I'm serious, man. If you get that voice into shape, it'll rock.

And the acoustic sounds great. Very cleanly played. I'm quite impressed, my friend. :thumb:

Wow, thanks for the compliments..!.. And the critiques hehe, I'm getting vocal lessons as soon as I can afford them. Plus I'm doing vocal excersizes as often as I have the time.. Wich isn't often enough.

And I like how you both thought the guitar part was very clean, when it wasn't at all, I just drenched it in reverb so you couldn't hear the mistakes :p

Cardboard Headgear
05-29-2005, 05:34 AM
I'll do some growls, I'll try and put up some clips of me tomorrow if I can figure out how to host ****. Also, I'd offer to mix everything if I had internet that wasn't 56k. : (

Grey Incision
05-29-2005, 05:35 AM
I'll do some growls, I'll try and put up some clips of me tomorrow if I can figure out how to host ****. Also, I'd offer to mix everything if I had internet that wasn't 56k. : (

awesome, i want to hear how others sound when growling, i'm not sure where i'm at with it. If i can find some equipment, i'll post something ok?

Knifeboy
05-29-2005, 05:56 AM
I recorded a clip of me growling some of The Drapery Falls just for shits and giggles.. Excuse the guitar track, it lacks alot of punch because.. Well.. I still haven't gotten my electric restrung, so I played the riff on the acoustic! (Man, that riff is killer on the acoustic):
http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LNBJE9F07HNP3P48QEVBAOXWN
My timing is off, alot..

Grey Incision
05-29-2005, 06:17 AM
I recorded a clip of me growling some of The Drapery Falls just for shits and giggles.. Excuse the guitar track, it lacks alot of punch because.. Well.. I still haven't gotten my electric restrung, so I played the riff on the acoustic! (Man, that riff is killer on the acoustic):
http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LNBJE9F07HNP3P48QEVBAOXWN
My timing is off, alot..

Right idea, just try forcing more from your gut, it'll make it deeper, but a good voice for melodic death metal maybe :thumb:

Darkness
05-29-2005, 12:00 PM
Can I do the last growled verse in the Drapery falls cover?

Darkness
05-29-2005, 08:15 PM
Or not...

Deth
05-29-2005, 08:52 PM
I play bass, and I can play The Drapery Falls perfectly. I'll need to borrow a mic from a friend, and any advice on recording would be appreciated.

All of the offical threads should do a face off of covers.

Mr. Ron
05-29-2005, 09:27 PM
I was listening to Master's Apprentice and around 5:38 till 5:58 there guitars make an interesting sound. Is that guitar effects or some media they put in?

Deth
05-29-2005, 09:33 PM
Let me interupt my Dream Theater to find out.

I'll be back.

Mr. Ron
05-29-2005, 09:35 PM
Let me interupt my Dream Theater to find out.

I'll be back.
I need to get some dream theater......I don't own any. I hear they are really good though.

Deth
05-29-2005, 09:35 PM
Sounds like effects. On the Lamentations DVD, Steve Wilson and Mikael fool around with a lot of effects to do stuff like this.

Mr. Ron
05-29-2005, 09:39 PM
Sounds like effects. On the Lamentations DVD, Steve Wilson and Mikael fool around with a lot of effects to do stuff like this.
It sounds really errie I like it.

I hear that the new Opeth album will not be produced by Steven Wilson. Is this true?

Deth
05-29-2005, 09:43 PM
'Tis True. Don't ask me why either, I love Wilsons production.

Kage
05-29-2005, 09:45 PM
It was amazing on BWP. That album sounded so incredible. Wilson is a mastermind.

On Deliverance it was not as good, but still great.

TojesDolan
05-29-2005, 09:46 PM
Ok I can make an acoustic... let me see which one and I'd love to contribute in some way. I'll record and put up a link in a few hours.

Mr. Ron
05-29-2005, 09:47 PM
It was amazing on BWP. That album sounded so incredible. Wilson is a mastermind.

On Deliverance it was not as good, but still great.
Personally I think Deliverance is their best album.

Cardboard Headgear
05-29-2005, 10:03 PM
I was listening to Master's Apprentice and around 5:38 till 5:58 there guitars make an interesting sound. Is that guitar effects or some media they put in?
It sounds like a combination of e-bow created feedback and a little bit of wah or envelope filter or such.


http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=354GUK310BTUR2D5TVN92FWTAB
Here's a little bit of Master's Appretices I threw together and changed a little bit. There's some weird timing issue with my drum machine, and some of the vocals aren't too hot, but I'm far too lazy to fix any of it. And also keep in mind my pop filter (read: a t-shirt) muffles the vocals somewhat.

Darkness
05-29-2005, 10:17 PM
That wasn't bad, though it sounds like your holding back your growl.

Cardboard Headgear
05-29-2005, 10:36 PM
That's mostly the result of me just half-assing that recording.

Grey Incision
05-30-2005, 03:42 AM
not bad carboard! not bad at all! but yeah, sounds like your holding back a little, and you mixed a whole lot of effects in too! thats awesome:)

And yes, you do Opeth growls some justice

PeEpHoLe_10
05-30-2005, 04:05 AM
Personally I think Deliverance is their best album.

I partially agree with that. Deliverance, A fair Judgment and Masters are three of my favourit ever Opeth songs.

Knifeboy
05-30-2005, 04:07 AM
Deliverance is my favorite Opeth song ever.
But I think Blackwater is one of the most perfect albums ever created. Not one single itty bitty flaw on that one. So therefore it's my favorite

the2stranger
05-30-2005, 04:11 AM
hey
we could covera song with keyboard parts too, I can provide keyboard playing.

A fair judgement anyone?
or maybe, By the pain I see in others?, no one would exspect that :p

bucket
05-30-2005, 10:54 AM
Can anyone play that second solo around 6:30 on A Fair Judgement?

It owns me, but then again, most solos own me.

i am the robots
05-30-2005, 10:56 AM
I partially agree with that. Deliverance, A fair Judgment and Masters are three of my favourit ever Opeth songs.
Masters Apprentices = ear sex (the good kind)

Crysiss
05-30-2005, 11:51 AM
Many of you MAY have seen my thread about opeth being signed to roadrunner,but i guess there signed to it now man...wonder if theyre gonna do anything different, i doubt theyll be any different tho....they seem really true to the music the make

the2stranger
05-30-2005, 12:01 PM
I don't think Mikeal will bend to the will of Roadrunner.
and I don't think Roadrunner will have the guts to stand Mikeal's creativity in the way.

and Roadrunner accepted Opeth, when he had already written the tracks.
so he has freedom enough as far as I can judge :)

Deth
05-30-2005, 12:15 PM
A Fair Judgement would be cool. People wouldn't expect that from us. By The Pain I See In Others is a little bit too complicated I think.

Cain
05-30-2005, 12:22 PM
I can play the middle acoustic bits and the solos to "A Fair Judgement." :D It shouldn't be too hard.