The Official Jam Band Thread

[Jam2Me]

The Samples...they are easily one of the worst Jam Bands I've heard. But maybe it's just their recorded stuff.
I downloaded some stuff...it's not that bad, what songs do you have?

[wanton]

i posted my band a little bit back, don't get your hopes up on getting a lot of feedback, only a couple of people said anything about us... http://www.purevolume.com/madagom just thought i'd post it again for the heck of it

I enjoyed the songs, you guys certainly have talent. The only thing that bugged me was that your drummer seemed a little obnoxious for the type of music you guys played played. But it was still great. :thumb:

edit: I also liked how you didn't try to sing like the majority of the bands on PureVolume. And notice I said "try", If any of you have singing ability, go for it.

[Badmoon]

I downloaded some stuff...it's not that bad, what songs do you have?

2 albums worth.

[e p]

Yea, I own one. Quantum 5 string like Cactus. It's not really a trend....it's a known fact that Modulus's are just about the most versatile, best sounding, best quality basses made! The sound really just blows me the hell away. I think Phil Lesh played the first one in the 70's, and from then on it has been the choice of some of the best bassists in the world, Jam bands or not. But, jam band members tend to be more musically talented than musicians from other genres...a thank you very much ;)

I love the sounds mike can get with his

the slap tone and pick tone is great...but theyre pretty expensive :upset:

[moghes69]

I enjoyed the songs, you guys certainly have talent. The only thing that bugged me was that your drummer seemed a little obnoxious for the type of music you guys played played. But it was still great. :thumb:

edit: I also liked how you didn't try to sing like the majority of the bands on PureVolume. And notice I said "try", If any of you have singing ability, go for it.
yeah, none of us have any vocal talent. there isn't anyone that we know that can sing either, but if they did they'd probably get bored from all of the instrumental stuff.

[jpj]

Jam bands don't need extremely talented vocalists. Just as long as they can stay in key.

[JimStyle]

Yeah Trey and Jerry aren't very gifted singers but they definitely get the job done, and done well.

[jpj]

They made up for it with great guitar skills.

[Jam2Me]

2 albums worth.
They've got 16...and it's not all that bad.

I don't mind Jerry's voice or Trey's...I like both of them.

[Badmoon]

They've got 16

Yea, unfortunatley the two albums I have are rated the best out of the others (by allmusic), and they are terrible in my opinion.

and it's not all that bad.

So yes, so far it's all that bad. IMO

[Jam2Me]

No offense but it seems you fo out of your way to be a prick.

[Badmoon]

Well, you keep going against my posts, dare I respond?

And I have stated numerous times that all of this is my opinion, you can think your way.

[Jam2Me]

You probably said that because I go to lots of shows and you don't...they've been around for over ten years, they play at festivals like Wakarusa, they are obviously good.

[Badmoon]

You probably said that because I go to lots of shows and you don't...they've been around for over ten years, they play at festivals like Wakarusa, they are obviously good.

Oh ****, you got me there. It has got to be about jellousy :rolleyes:

they've been around for over ten years, they play at festivals like Wakarusa, they are obviously good.

Worst. Logic. Ever!!!!!!

Wow! Play Festivals + Play long time = Good band

Please re-think that.

[Jam2Me]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=music&field-keywords=the%252520samples&search-type=ss&bq=1&store-name=music/ref=xs_ap_l_xgl15/002-1457791-7389618

http://www.jambands.com/CDReviews/content_2004_12_01.06.phtml


Hah, keeping rolling your eyes at my logic...I gues the good bands last 2 years and play at terrible venues right?

[Badmoon]

Hah, keeping rolling your eyes at my logic...I gues the good bands last 2 years and play at terrible venues right?

You know The Bee Gees and ABBA played for awhile, and certainly tackled some huge arena's.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=music&field-keywords=the%252520samples&search-type=ss&bq=1&store-name=music/ref=xs_ap_l_xgl15/002-1457791-7389618

http://www.jambands.com/CDReviews/content_2004_12_01.06.phtml
This shows a lot, you are really proving a point. :thumb:

...

[Jam2Me]

You know The Bee Gees and ABBA played for awhile, and certainly tackled some huge arena's.


They created good music...the Bee Gees were the kings of disco pop and Abba was a successful pop group too. Too bad this is a jam band thread.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

I don't like them...sorry.

[Jam2Me]

Apology accepted.

[Badmoon]

They created good music...the Bee Gees were the kings of disco pop and Abba was a successful pop group too.

Well, to you they are good (Well, at least your saying that to make yourself seem right), but there is no doubt that bad bands also stick together, and play large arenas. Because it is after all, all opinion. And to me, those bands suck, so they completely go against your silly logic.

Too bad this is a jam band thread.

Does that make a difference?

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

Yeah, I hate when sucky bands play huge venues...*cough* Oasis at MSG*cough*

[Jam2Me]

Well, to you they are good (Well, at least your saying that to make yourself seem right), but there is no doubt that bad bands also stick together, and play large arenas. Because it is after all, it is all opinion. And to me, those bands suck, so they completely go against your silly logic.

Yeah I know it's my opinion it's also the opinion of millions of others who frequent their shows because they love their music which gets them the notoriety to play at huge festivals like Wakarusa. If they sucked then they would not be having huge tours and no one would buy their CDs, which is your silly logic.

Does that make a difference?
Yes..it's irrelevant unless you named two jam bands.

[Badmoon]

Yeah I know it's my opinion it's also the opinion of millions of others who frequent their shows because they love their music which gets them the notoriety to play at huge festivals like Wakarusa. If they sucked then they would not be having huge tours and no one would buy their CDs, which is your silly logic.

The logic of opinion...here it comes...It sounds bad = it is bad.

Now apparently to two users (so far) this band is bad. Which makes your logic silly. I am sure there are bands you hate who play large venues or sell millions of CD's.

Yes..it's irrelevant unless you named two jam bands.

The conversation is not just on Jam Bands. But if it makes you happy...

OAR
The Samples

Does that make you feel more sure of your arguement, sway your opinions, change anything...no, not really.

[Jam2Me]

Now apparently to two users (so far) this band is bad. Which makes your logic silly. I am sure there are bands you hate who play large venues or sell millions of CD's.

The conversation is not just on Jam Bands. But if it makes you happy...

OAR
The Samples

Does that make you feel more sure of your arguement, sway your opinions, change anything...no, not really.


If you wanna use opinions as your argument I can use it against you, in my opinion OAR and The Samples are good. That is also the opinion of many others who listen to their music. Bands don't become popular by sucking, they're obviously doing something right.

The logic of opinion...here it comes...It sounds bad = it is bad.
I have a hedonistic philosophy when listening to music..if it sounds good it is good. "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees sounded good, it's a fun song and it was great to dance to, therefore it is good. The Samples sound great live, I'm seeing them live, so I'm guessing it'll be a good show. Oh wait nevermind that is silly logic, they sound great live so the show will suck...therrre we go :o

[Badmoon]

If you wanna use opinions as your argument I can use it against you, in my opinion OAR and The Samples are good. That is also the opinion of many others who listen to their music. Bands don't become popular by sucking, they're obviously doing something right.

You are not using that against me, you are agreeing with me.

I have a hedonistic philosophy when listening to music..if it sounds good it is good. "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees sounded good, it's a fun song and it was great to dance to, therefore it is good. The Samples sound great live, I'm seeing them live, so I'm guessing it'll be a good show. Oh wait nevermind that is silly logic, they sound great live so the show will suck...therrre we go

I don't know if you are trying to some how be original in this conversation with that thought, or you believe you are one upping me, but "It sounds bad = It's bad" and "It sounds good = It's good" are the same logic. Your original logic was that majority rules; if more people like it than don't, they must be fabulous.

[Jam2Me]

No I'm disagreeing with you, I thought that was clear but I guess not...
I hate metal. Ozzfest probably sells out wherever it goes. They msut be doing something right, like playing good metal music otherwise no one would go.

It's hard to keep thinking of examples since you can't just understand facts or opinions at face value. Phish is good, do I have to explain that to you? They toured and stayed together for many years because people kept buying their Cds and attending their shows.

[e p]

Music is subjective to the listener or rather an individual , not the audience as a whole.

Backstreet Boys have sold millions of records, therefore they are good...well, not in my opinion. But thats where the secret is as its all opinon. Obviously the people who bought their records think theyre good but I dont, therefore it is all opinion.

Golden rule for music: "if it sounds good to you, it's bitch'n. If it sounds bad to you, it's shittty."—Frank Zappa

[Badmoon]

No I'm disagreeing with you, I thought that was clear but I guess not...
I hate metal. Ozzfest probably sells out wherever it goes. They msut be doing something right, like playing good metal music otherwise no one would go.

Oh, so because everyone but you likes Ozzy Osbourne, that must make him a good artist, no matter what you think. Sure he did something right, but that does not make him a good artist, because good is all opinion.

Phish is good, do I have to explain that to you? They toured and stayed together for many years because people kept buying their Cds and attending their shows.

And because they sell CD's they are good. That is beyond stupid. They are good because you like their music. Now let's say I don't like their music, then they are not good to me (IMO!!!!!).

Why do you not understand what I am saying. I have said it countless times.


EP gets it, SplitOpenAndMelt gets it, I get, most get it, why don't you?

Now please, keep posting your arguments, though I have to go, maybe someone else will state what I am saying once again, and maybe you'll understand.

[Jam2Me]

I don't like the Backstreet Boys, but I don't say they suck, because they didn't to about a billion teenage girls. That was 50% of the argument, the other 50% was Badmoon arguing that he is the biggest prick on MX to me, (IMO!!!11!!1)

[jpj]

BADMOON DOES NOT ENJOY LISTENING THEIR MUSIC THEREFORE HE FEELS THAT IT IS BAD MUSIC. I'M SURE THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE THEIR MUSIC, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE HAS TO.

I don't really see what the argument is here.

[Jam2Me]

It started when I called him a prick.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

Hey, I never said the band was bad. I just don't enjoy the music they play. It's icky...It'd be sweet if you guys would stop arguing. Let's get back to some friendly discussion: What have you guys gathered about Trey Anastasio's new band. They played for the first time on 4/1, and I don't like the reviews I'm seeing. I already miss all the horns and jens superb voice...

[jpj]

Trey played with Mr. Crowe's Garden (Black Crowes) at Higher Ground very recently. That would've been cool.

[Badmoon]

BADMOON DOES NOT ENJOY LISTENING THEIR MUSIC THEREFORE HE FEELS THAT IT IS BAD MUSIC. I'M SURE THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE THEIR MUSIC, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE HAS TO.

Exactly

It started when I called him a prick.

And continued me saying everything I previously said was my opinion (Get use to it; I'm pretty opinionated). And then some how, you got the idea that because one dislikes a band, it is irelevant, because they sold a bunch of CD's, or whatever. We then continued with me explaining the same thing over and over and you agreeing with (But not knowing). Now, hopefully, you'll realize that just because a band is adored by millions, that doesn't make it a fact that they are "Good".

[pegwedge]

Trey doesn't have the horns anymore? I haven't read much into it but I wish he still ahd the horns. I liked them.

[Jam2Me]

Exactly



And continued me saying everything I previously said was my opinion (Get use to it; I'm pretty opinionated). And then some how, you got the idea that because one dislikes a band, it is irelevant, because they sold a bunch of CD's, or whatever. We then continued with me explaining the same thing over and over and you agreeing with (But not knowing). Now, hopefully, you'll realize that just because a band is adored by millions, that doesn't make it a fact that they are "Good".


When in Rome...

[Badmoon]

When in Rome...

I heard the Backstreet Boys are getting back together. Supposedly, they sold a bunch of albums; you should check them out. They have to be great :)

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

Yea, Trey ditched the horns...the songs that they were usually in sound so naked!

[Jam2Me]

I heard the Backstreet Boys are getting back together. Supposedly, they sold a bunch of albums; you should check them out. They have to be great :)
It's so hot...milk was a bad choice. :cool:

[JamesPatrickPageZoSo]

my friends bluegrass album (produced by Al from the Big Wu). www.stealinstrings.com check em out cause i'm curious how other people like em.
btw, i love em but im interested in other peoples imput.

pom

[KMidura]

Greyspoke Variety is playing tonight at the Carriage House 8:00 in Bennington, VT. Anyone in the area should check them out.

[jpj]

Is anyone going to the All Good Festival? I wish I could go :(

[pegwedge]

I'm going! I don't care if I have to go by myself I'm going. That's a lineup I can't pass up for $79 and being that close to home. God...Claypool, Flaming Lips, Particle, SCI...orgasmic.

Edit: KMidura - Are you gonna tape the Greyspoke show? You really should. I need some new Greyspoke Variety.

[jpj]

I'm going! I don't care if I have to go by myself I'm going. That's a lineup I can't pass up for $79 and being that close to home. God...Claypool, Flaming Lips, Particle, SCI...orgasmic.
I'd go if I had a way to get there :upset:

[KMidura]

Edit: KMidura - Are you gonna tape the Greyspoke show? You really should. I need some new Greyspoke Variety.

There's been a couple of shows taped since one was last put up on Archive.org, but they hate to put up shows that aren't super tight, and seeing as how Mike had to rush in from NYC without any practice in order to make it in time, I doubt they're going to want to put this one up. That being said, it should be mastered within the week, so it is completely up to the band. Even if this one doesn't go up, they should be playing another gig fairly soon, and that one will most likely be going up, as it will be back at the Riley Center, and the demand for copies of that show should be quite large. If you'd like to plead with them, feel free to email them at greyspokevariety@yahoo.com.

[JPage54]

Does anyone here have any Phish bootlegs?

[pegwedge]

KMidura - I'll ask Rob the next time he gets online. He IM'ed me a while back and I still have him on my buddy list.

JPage54 - Check out a progam called FurtherNet at www.furthernet.com. It's a really nice sharing program that lets people share shows. It'd be better though if you were on DSL or better cause the FLACs and SHNs are pretty big.

[JPage54]

Ok, thanks man.

EDIT: Link doesn't work. :(

[dum_drum]

I really dont like Jam bands, there just so annoying cause they go on for like 20 mins jamming and it sounds bad,i dont understand how u can like bands like phish and grateful dead

[JPage54]

......Leave

[e p]

I really dont like Jam bands, there just so annoying cause they go on for like 20 mins jamming and it sounds bad,i dont understand how u can like bands like phish and grateful dead


And you like Billy Talent and Sum 41?

Your point?

[pegwedge]

Yeah that is pretty retarded. I guess jam bands are just over his head.

Anyway, Grateful Dead, Gov't Mule, moe., String Cheese Incident, Perpetual Groove, Tea Leaf Green...I could go on all night.

Oh and www.furthurnet.com (http://www.furthurnet.com) for JPage54. Spelled it wrong last time. :thumb:

[darkstarwood1022]

Has anyone seen Widespread Panic Live?

[jpj]

I really dont like Jam bands, there just so annoying cause they go on for like 20 mins jamming and it sounds bad,i dont understand how u can like bands like phish and grateful dead
If you don't like jam bands than why the **** are you posting in a thread about them?

EDIT: Madey, Gov't Mule is very similar to Derek Trucks and The Allman Brothers.

[Badmoon]

Gov't Mule is very similar to Derek Trucks

Er...you 'bout to cross the line foo.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

I probably already asked this, but is anyone going to the NY, NY Trey Anastasio shows? Or any spring Trey shows for that matter?

[jpj]

Er...you 'bout to cross the line foo.
K, not very similar. Kind of alike, at least I think so.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

They all share members but....I'd say that the ABB and DTB are the most different. And they are reaaaaally different.

[e p]

Badmoon......and anyone else in the Chicago area..

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/04003A8BDEB06373?artistid=734412&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=1

..yeah

Allman Bros. w/ special guest moe.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

That's awesome! F*ck New York...

[6Stringer]

Hayseed Dixie is coming tonite at 7 here, should be good.

Steve Winwood
with the Hector Qirko Band
APRIL 28
Buddy Miller & Lonesome Coyotes

MAY 5
Matt Hall & the Banana Hammocks
with Ari Hest

MAY 12
Blue Merle & Will Hoge

MAY 19
Victor Wooten Band
with Dishwater Blonde

MAY 26
Drive-By Truckers
with Carbon Leaf

JUNE 2
Rilo Kiley
with Dixie Dirt

JUNE 9
My Morning Jacket

JUNE 16
The Neville Brothers
with Mofro

JUNE 23
N/A

JUNE 30
Sleater-Kinney

JULY 7
Cross Canadian Ragweed
with Garage Deluxe

List of bands coming to a free concert series in my town, looking forward to Vic Wooten's show.

[6Stringer]

I really dont like Jam bands, there just so annoying cause they go on for like 20 mins jamming and it sounds bad,i dont understand how u can like bands like phish and grateful dead

You shouldn't have come in here and said that, if you don't like it don't listen to it, its as simple as that. Dumbass.

[jpj]

MAY 19
Victor Wooten Band
with Dishwater Blonde
That man puts on a hell of a show. His brothers (his band) are extremely talented as well. Though I would've enjoyed the concert had the theater had seats....god that made my legs ache.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

ough I would've enjoyed the concert had the theater had seats....god that made my legs ache.

Sometimes you just have to wait for that one lameass song to just sit down, regardless of the theater floor smelling like a three ring circus:) But alas, that special song never comes at Victor Wooten shows, because they're all so good.

[e p]

Gah!!

I cant go to the Wooten show Ive been planning for weeks. I MUST be 18 with a valid for of inentification even if I have a parent there.

[ledpoisoning27]

Badmoon......and anyone else in the Chicago area..

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/04003A8BDEB06373?artistid=734412&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=1

..yeah

Allman Bros. w/ special guest moe.
do you know when tickets go on sale?

[kyle-the-used]

And you like Billy Talent and Sum 41?

Your point?
grateful dead are good i like jamming bands and sum 41 whats bad about that

[jpj]

Can you YSI me a few songs? Or an album?
I would if I was at my mom's where all my music is. I can sometime during the week though.

[wanton]

I've been getting into Blues Traveler a lot lately ... What album(s) would you recommend?

[Badmoon]

Travelers and Thieves

It is a perfect blend of Blues Travelers Hard Rock style mixed with Pop.

[jpj]

If you like Travelers & Thieves you should get Four next.

[6Stringer]

That man puts on a hell of a show. His brothers (his band) are extremely talented as well. Though I would've enjoyed the concert had the theater had seats....god that made my legs ache.

I know thats one of the shows I'm most excited about.

[Badmoon]

If you like Travelers & Thieves you should get Four next.

Yea :thumb:

I just heard the Drive-By Truckers. Really good :)

[jpj]

I heard one of their songs, but I didn't really like it. However, I wouldn't want to form an opinion on them from just one song.

[jpj]

Have you guys heard about the Zooma Tour? I hope it comes here.

http://www.zoomatour.com/main.htm

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

That looks fab!

[wanton]

Travelers and Thieves

It is a perfect blend of Blues Travelers Hard Rock style mixed with Pop.

If you like Travelers & Thieves you should get Four next.

Thanks. :thumb:

Is Save His Soul any good? That's the only name I remember when searching for cds

[jpj]

So moe. is opening for the Allmans for their entire summer tour.... :D :D :D :D :D

[JPage54]

Hey, what do you guys think of The Siket Disc?

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

It's weird...kinda unorganized. But alas, I love it! It's very spur-of-the-moment creative. It's not quite as weird as the White Tape, but I'm sure copious amounts of hallucinogenics were still involved. ;)

[JPage54]

I doubt that. Phish really stopped using drugs after college.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

Nah man. Trey still hits acid, and one of my friends smoked some bud with Mike and Fish after a show at Alpine Valley in 2000 I think. I was being a tad sarcastic with the 'genics because they've cut down on those. They are big fans of shroomin' though...

[JPage54]

How do you know?

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

In a recent interview with Trey Anastasio in High Times, he described, in detail, an acid trip he had in the desert just weeks before. He also said that he still smoked pot somewhat frequently. All four of them have admitted to shrooming and smoking in between sets and such. You still don't belive it do you? :)

[Jam2Me]

How do you know?
Why can't you accept the fact that they use massive amounts of drugs? You'll be hardpressed to find a band that doesn't use drugs...especially when dealing with jam bands.

[Jaded]

I don't know if this qualifies as a jam band, but I saw David Grissman play last night, and it was the best concert I've ever seen.

[Thornis]

Heya gang,
My first post in this area but this is where I belong. Jam bands and the blues are my favs...so here I am...
To catch up to you all, my fav jam bands are:
Gov't Mule
Allman Brothers
Widespread Panic
some Dead.. Loved Jerry not a huge fan of Weir's stuff.
the rest is blurry..lol

On the drug issue..hhmmmmmmmm to me it doesn't matter. as a drummer who has been in many jamming situations..yes drugs do happen..and for the most part "help" the jam experience. however anything in excess is bad..lol
so I will bet most of the bands we are taking about have done, or are doing drugs.. let's just pray its getting stoned and not heroine.. I don't want to loose anymore excellent musicians to that garbage..

[McMurphy]

I don't know if this qualifies as a jam band, but I saw David Grissman play last night, and it was the best concert I've ever seen.

He is not really classified as "Jam Band" (More "Dawg" or Bluegrass/Jazz), but is most certainly held close by Jam Band fans.

That must have been a fantastic show :)

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

Amen Thornis. I'm a gigging bassist. I love to jam. There's nothin like popping a good handful of shrooms to fuel a long jam(for me at least). I do have trouble playing with ganja and alcohol in my system...I lose all sense of creativity.

[6Stringer]

Last nite I saw Steve Winwood play, greatest show I have ever been to! He jammed "Mr. Fantasy" and "The Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys" for around 18 - 20 minutes!

[JPage54]

Why can't you accept the fact that they use massive amounts of drugs? You'll be hardpressed to find a band that doesn't use drugs...especially when dealing with jam bands.
I don't believe in associating Jam bands with drugs, because in the case of Phish it's not what they are all about. However, Split Open and Melt has provided solid evidence that they still do drugs, which I'm fine with because I do too. I have no problem with drugs if that's what you think.

[jpj]

Tomorrow night on one of my PBS stations Derek Trucks, The Codetalkers, and Jeff Lang are gonna be on so you might want to see if it's on around you.

[jpj]

Derek Trucks = sex. Do you know what the program is called?
Mountain Stage, I think it might only be a West Virginia thing, though.

[Walrus Gumboot]

So moe. is opening for the Allmans for their entire summer tour.... :D :D :D :D :D

Where!!?? I am always the last to hear about shows around here :upset:

[JPage54]

Why don't you just go to there website?

[6Stringer]

Is anybody, other than myself, downloading any live shows at the moment? I'm currently downloading The Dead's performance at Bonnaroo (6/12/04) and listening to Phil & Friend's MArdi Gras show from this year.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

I do.

[jpj]

Where!!?? I am always the last to hear about shows around here :upset:
http://www.moe.org/tour.htm

I got Robert Randolph and the Family Band-Live at Wetlands today.

[wanton]

Is anybody, other than myself, downloading any live shows at the moment? I'm currently downloading The Dead's performance at Bonnaroo (6/12/04) and listening to Phil & Friend's MArdi Gras show from this year.

I'm getting Blues Traveler at the Wetland Preserve, New York, NY right now.

[Jam2Me]

http://www.moe.org/tour.htm

I got Robert Randolph and the Family Band-Live at Wetlands today.
How awesome is that CD?

BTW I'm going to see moe and ABB 8/21 :chug:

[jpj]

How awesome is that CD?

BTW I'm going to see moe and ABB 8/21 :chug:
Extremely awesome.

I'm seeing them 7/16 :D

[KMidura]

Extremely awesome.

I'm seeing them 7/16 :D
check out their show from Bonnaroo on Archive.org, i've been listening to that and the wetlands a lot recently

[roses are free]

is anyone goin to big summer classic?

im goin to the schamburg one both nights

[Broken Arrow]

How awesome is that CD?

BTW I'm going to see moe and ABB 8/21 :chug:
Hopefully me too.

[Jam2Me]

Hopefully me too.
Same date?

[Jam2Me]

Anyone heard about that Big Summer Classic with SCI, Yonder Mt. String Band, Umphrey's McGee, Keller Williams, and some others...for only $40 I'm there. It's stopping by the Yale Bowl in July for me.

EDIT: Linkage http://www.bigsummerclassic.com/

[jpj]

God damnit all this talk of festivals makes me even more pissed that I can't go to the All Good Festival :upset:

[General Crookshanks]

Anyone interested in trading some Grateful Dead shows shoot me an e-mail.

wwarren@mail.colgate.edu

[ledzep66]

Anyone who wants all of the Derek Trucks Band shows ready to download for free, here is the link you crazy critters.

http://www.dtbsetlists.com

:)

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

Like, OMG, guys. Keller Williams' DVD comes out this summer! It's about time. It's called Sight. http://kellerwilliams.net

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

BTW I'm going to the big summer classic.

[Jam2Me]

I saw OAR last night...good live show. I know hardly anyone respects them as musicians but their concerts are just god**** fun, its lively music and everyones intoxicated havin' a good time. It's like a sloppy DMB concert.

[jpj]

I saw OAR last night...good live show. I know hardly anyone respects them as musicians but their concerts are just god**** fun, its lively music and everyones intoxicated havin' a good time. It's like a sloppy DMB concert.
My brother (OAR fanboy) has a live DVD of them, and they do seem like they'd be fun to see live.

[Jam2Me]

Yeah they have some fanboys I could tell from the concert...I could never be an active fan of these guys, but I'd never pass up an oppourtunity to see them live.

AND!!! Chicks dig them :thumb:

[Jam2Me]

Any Dispatch fans? I own Bang Bang, I liked "The General" and "Whirlwind" and "Out Loud" so I stole it (my first stolen CD :)...first of MANY, it was easy) and I actually like it. I'm going to get Silent Steeples next. I have no chance of seeing them live though :(, I think they ended kind of abruptly.

[jpj]

Any Dispatch fans? I own Bang Bang, I liked "The General" and "Whirlwind" and "Out Loud" so I stole it (my first stolen CD :)...first of MANY, it was easy) and I actually like it. I'm going to get Silent Steeples next. I have no chance of seeing them live though :(, I think they ended kind of abruptly.
They're alright. The General is pretty good, but other than that.....meh.

[PrinceCaspian]

bang bang is pretty good but theyre other stuff is a lot different, check out the album "Who Are We Living For?"

Also their live stuff is amazing

[Walrus Gumboot]

How awesome is that CD?

BTW I'm going to see moe and ABB 8/21 :chug:


I was thinking of seeing that, it's definatly one of the best shows that will come through this area this summer,

Speaking of, are you seeing Bob Dylan/Willie Nelson in June?

[Jam2Me]

I was thinking of seeing that, it's definatly one of the best shows that will come through this area this summer,

Speaking of, are you seeing Bob Dylan/Willie Nelson in June?
Nah I have to go to some gay retreat for school :(

[Walrus Gumboot]

Nah I have to go to some gay retreat for school :(

Thats awful! :eek:

The Pittsfeild MA AND the Norwich one?

[jpj]

http://www.zoomatour.com/main.htm

:eek: They're coming to Pittsburgh :eek:

[Jam2Me]

I literally choked when I saw they were coming to Connecticut. This just made my day...week....year.

[wanton]

:bumb:

Anyone like Little Feat?

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

:bumb:

Anyone like Little Feat?

I like them alot. The original band was uber sexy.

[jpj]

:bumb:

Anyone like Little Feat?
I like what I've heard.

[Kingadamx]

I like them alot. The original band was uber sexy.
The founders of Little Feat were previous members of The Mothers of Invention. (Lowell George and Roy Estrada) I saw them in concert this past summer and was somewhat disappointed.

[Walrus Gumboot]

:bumb:

Anyone like Little Feat?


My dad is a huge fan, I think I met someone in it years ago, but I forget who :upset:

I remember Dixie Chicken though

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

I got my Zooma tour tickets today from Ticketmaster. Woohoo. Camden, NJ Tweeter Center at the Waterfront, June 16. Can't wait. With Trey Anastasio in a week and Zooma and Big Classic this summer I have a ton to look forward to. Anyone else get tickets?

[e p]

I got my Zooma tour tickets today from Ticketmaster. Woohoo. Camden, NJ Tweeter Center at the Waterfront, June 16. Can't wait. With Trey Anastasio in a week and Zooma and Big Classic this summer I have a ton to look forward to. Anyone else get tickets?


Summer Camp, DMB, Big Classic, and Herbie Hancock w/ Marcus Miller headlining.

Summer Camp is iffie though.

[darkstarwood1022]

Im going to Zooma in Holmdel NJ, DMB at Randalls Island, Trey next week in NYC(Tour Closer) and OAR in Holmdel. Ive got alot to look forward too

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

Im going to Zooma in Holmdel NJ, DMB at Randalls Island, Trey next week in NYC(Tour Closer) and OAR in Holmdel. Ive got alot to look forward too
Sweet! I'm goin to the same show. Trey that is...

[CaptainWaits]

Would Dave Matthews Band be considered a Jam Band??

[Badmoon]

Yes

[CaptainWaits]

Yes

Alright thank you there :thumb:

[Walrus Gumboot]

[QUOTE=]CHAMPLAIN VALLEY FAIR CONCERTS in the Coca Cola Grandstand:

Aug. 27, 7 p.m. Country Star Alan Jackson (at left). For tickets, www.flynntix.org
Aug. 28: 7 p.m. Allman Brothers. Ticket information not available yet
Aug. 29: Clay Aiken of American Idol fame TICKETS ON SALE NOW
Aug. 30: Extreme Motorcyle Show, Tickets on sale Aug. 1
Aug. 31: Figure 8 Racing. Tickets on sale Aug. 1
Sept. 1: Demolition Derby, Tickets on sale Aug. 1
Sept. 2: KC and the Sunshine Band and Village People, Tickets on sale, Monday May 9 at 10 a.m.
Sept. 3: Larry the Cable Guy, Tickets on Sale May 5
Sept. 4, 7 p.m. Country Star Tim McGraw. - SOLD OUT
Sept. 5, Grand National Tractor Pull, Tickets on sale Aug. 1 [\QUOTE]

Guess which one I'm seeing :lol:

[Jam2Me]

Hmm tough choice between KC and the Sunshine Band with the Village People or Clay Aiken...

Anyways...that show is with moe. right? I'm seeing them the 21st got my tix yesternight it's with moe.

[SmoovGroove]

bonnnnnnnnnaaarrrroooooooooo!!!


Just picked up a pair of tickets today, even though the bands are sub par this year, its worth it for the experience. I'm hoping Stanton Moore is gonna pop up.

[wanton]

bonnnnnnnnnaaarrrroooooooooo!!!


Just picked up a pair of tickets today, even though the bands are sub par this year, its worth it for the experience. I'm hoping Stanton Moore is gonna pop up.

Sub par?!?!

To each his own.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

I have tickets but I'm too lazy to go. Such a long trip. I'll sell the tickets for horribly inflated prices instead :)

[Jam2Me]

Yeah the tickets are selling pretty good on eBay...and pretty much everyone I want to see is coming near me with better openers and such...I'll probably sell my tix....gas prices are scaring me.

[ChinaCatSunflower]

Anyone going to Mountain Jam in Hunter, NY?
The Mule and MMW are gonna be amazing.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

Yeah man, as it stands you can make ridiculous money off them...think of what it'll be like in early June.

[Jam2Me]

Yeah I've been watching the bids closely...I don't
want to wait too long because Bonnaroo requires some preparation...I figure prices will be peaking in 1 or 2 weeks.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

OMG!!! Who went to the Trey concert last night? Holy dog sh!t, they really put it down! I almost creamed my jeans when I saw Mike come out, and I just lost my mind when they started to play. It's so awesome to see them play again.

[ambiguouslyjay]

would Traffic be considered a jam band?

[jpj]

would Traffic be considered a jam band?
Eh, no.

[Badmoon]

Huge influence: Yes

Like Santana.

[e p]

OMG!!! Who went to the Trey concert last night? Holy dog sh!t, they really put it down! I almost creamed my jeans when I saw Mike come out, and I just lost my mind when they started to play. It's so awesome to see them play again.

nice.

what did ol cactus do?

[jpj]

Huge influence: Yes

Like Santana.
Are you saying Traffic was a jam band or just that they influenced jam bands?

[magicbus]

I kinda want to talk about Robert Randolph and the Family Band.

[Jam2Me]

I saw him at Providence College....awesome awesome awesome.

[magicbus]

I saw him at Providence College....awesome awesome awesome.

I really want to see him. Hopefully he comes by sometime soon.

[Badmoon]

Are you saying Traffic was a jam band or just that they influenced jam bands?

That they influenced a lot of Jam Bands.

[pegwedge]

I'm really digging Drive-By Truckers right now. And luckily I get to see them in July at the All Good Festival. I know this has been asked but anyone else going to that? And also, anyone know any other bands in the same vein as DBT?

[jpj]

I kinda want to talk about Robert Randolph and the Family Band.
He's ****ing awesome. I need to get more of his stuff.
That they influenced a lot of Jam Bands.
Oh, ok.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

Cactus was just...Cactus. He played Old Habits are Hard to Break, Back on the Train(Phish), Waste(Wish, solo was orgasmic)<<<All duets, trey acoustic mike on electric.....WOLFMAN"S BROTHER<back to electric w/ whole band. Then some lame Beatles/I am the Walrus medley. Man you should've seen that ballroom when Wolfman's was pumpin. Everyone was dancing like crazed bouncing hippies! It was awesome!

[JBJ]

Does anyone consider any jazz (or any other similar genres) that they listen to Jam? Why or why not?

[6Stringer]

I just missed seeing Victor Wooten on Thursday, I'm so pissed. He has such a great live show and I missed it.

[ambiguouslyjay]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, I think The Slip is considered a jam band and they play a good bit of jazz but i dont know why they are considered jam.

[SplitOpenAndMelt]

Jazz was the original form of jamming. Improvisation plays a huge part in almost all jazz music.

[Broken Arrow]

Lately I have been digging Galactic alot. I've only been listening to bootlegs so if anyone could give me a recomendation on an album it would be much appreciated.

[JBJ]

I just missed seeing Victor Wooten on Thursday, I'm so pissed. He has such a great live show and I missed it.
Wow, I'd be so bummed if I missed one of his shows. Was there any specific reason on why you missed out?

[jpj]

I saw Victor last month. It was so ****ing awesome.

[Badmoon]

That's a nice avatar you got there, Jerry and the Tiger.

[e p]

Lately I have been digging Galactic alot. I've only been listening to bootlegs so if anyone could give me a recomendation on an album it would be much appreciated.


I really like 'Ruckus' and 'Coolin' off'...I think Coolin Off was their first studio album while Ruckus is their most recent.

:thumb:

[Broken Arrow]

I really like 'Ruckus' and 'Coolin' off'...I think Coolin Off was their first studio album while Ruckus is their most recent.

:thumb:
Thanks, I have a bootleg of them ant Bonnaroo 2002 and its really good.

Features Les Claypool and Robert Randolph on a few song too.

[6Stringer]

Wow, I'd be so bummed if I missed one of his shows. Was there any specific reason on why you missed out?

I'm grounded because of my grades, meaning I can't go see shows till the end of May. I won't miss My Morning Jacket though, so thats still good, not as good as Wooten.

EDIT: On a side note, I really wish I had this guitar (http://www.geocities.com/darksaw/darksbud.jpg)

[jpj]

That's a nice avatar you got there, Jerry and the Tiger.
Thank you :)

On the topic of shows, I got tickets for Trey and Ben in the 8th row :D (Sorry, if I already posted this)

[Kingadamx]

Conserts to see

June 16: The Zooma Tour
June 17: The Black Crowes/Tom Petty

Both Concerts should be excellent.

[magicbus]

Conserts to see

June 16: The Zooma Tour
June 17: The Black Crowes/Tom Petty

Both Concerts should be excellent.

I'm going to see Tom Petty :D

And Buddy Guy, but that's not on your list.

[TheDMV]

Thanks, I have a bootleg of them ant Bonnaroo 2002 and its really good.

I have a freind who's going to Bonnaroo this year. I'm so jealous. I want to hide away in his trunk or something.

[Jam2Me]

My To-Do List:

Tom Petty / Black Crowes
Zooma Tour
OAR
Big Summer Classic
Allmans and moe.
Bela Fleck and the Acoustic Trio

and whatever else pops up.

[dhxlr8]

Tom Petty will be awsome, of course Bonnaroo in general will be awsome, I cant wait

http://www.bandbuilder.com/bonnaroo2005/index.php?ref_code=F57742

[e p]

My To-Do List:

Tom Petty / Black Crowes
Zooma Tour
OAR
Big Summer Classic
Allmans and moe.
Bela Fleck and the Acoustic Trio

and whatever else pops up.

very nice!

Im not a big fan OAR though but meh...live music!

[ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond]

anyone going to jam on the river this weekend?

[Walrus Gumboot]

anyone going to jam on the river this weekend?
Where is it?


I want to see ABB/moe. at the Saratoga Preforming Arts Center, but it doesn't look like they have even set a date to start selling tickets yet. Both the artists' pages have it though, so I'll keep an eye out

[Walrus Gumboot]

anyone going to jam on the river this weekend?

Where is it?


I want to see ABB/moe. at the Saratoga Preforming Arts Center, but ticketbasterd is being weird. Either way I will see ABB in Vermont :)

[LedZeppFan83]

very nice!

Im not a big fan OAR though but meh...live music!

- Agreed, nice list!

[LedZeppFan83]

- Phish
- Grateful Dead
- Widepsread Panic
- O.A.R.
- Sublime

[Broken Arrow]

- Phish
- Grateful Dead
- Widepsread Panic
- O.A.R.
- Sublime
Are you just listing random bands? Or Jam Bands because I dont know but I have a feeling Sublime is not a Jam Band.

[Badmoon]

Yeah, Sublime's not a Jam Band, but cool non the less.

[KMidura]

Either way I will see ABB in Vermont :)
where and when in Vermont?

On a side note: New Greyspoke shows should be going up soon

[Walrus Gumboot]

where and when in Vermont?

On a side note: New Greyspoke shows should be going up soon

Champlain Valley Fair, they are comming Sunday, Aug. 27 in Essex Junction

I saw Yes there last year, it was really cool. Everyone camps and if you get hungry you can crawl out of bed and buy a corndog. I am going 5 hours from CT to go, I would definatly recommend it, especially since your profile says you are in VT anyway

(Tickets go on sale tomorrow)

[panicPHIRE]

i dont even really enjoy calling it jam band but what ever turns yall on...

i would have to say the leader of the jams right now would have to be WSP and then there are many others..(ex: string cheese incident, moonshine still, acoustic hookah, yonder mountain string band,government mule, derek trucks band etc..)


as for all of yalll who are saying that Allman brothers band is a jam band , the answer is no, allman brothers are so good and legendary they are in a whole different category by themselves. even if they did go in a category it would be classic southern rock. i know derek trucks is a part of the allman brothers band now but the derek trucks band plays different music from the allman brothers so it wouldnt be in the same category

and i have noticed phish is being placed on these jam band lists also, i think that also needs to change because phish has a unique sound only a few jam bands can even try to copy. phish would also have to be in a category by it self, not because it is legendary, but becasue it will be legendary after they get back together

[Badmoon]

For someone with such great arrogance and self assurance, you are quite ignorant.


i would have to say the leader of the jams right now would have to be WSP and then there are many others..(ex: string cheese incident, moonshine still, acoustic hookah, yonder mountain string band,government mule, derek trucks band etc..)

Those are very unique, your post title put us to shame :rolleyes:

as for all of yalll who are saying that Allman brothers band is a jam band , the answer is no, allman brothers are so good and legendary they are in a whole different category by themselves. even if they did go in a category it would be classic southern rock. i know derek trucks is a part of the allman brothers band now but the derek trucks band plays different music from the allman brothers so it wouldnt be in the same category

Well, if you break the Allman Brothers down, they even fit the Jam Band description better than most other Jam Bands. And as them being in a category of their own..."Allman Brothers" isn't a genre. And yes, they could be classified as Classic Southern Rock, because who says a band has to fit into one genre.

and i have noticed phish is being placed on these jam band lists also, i think that also needs to change because phish has a unique sound only a few jam bands can even try to copy. phish would also have to be in a category by it self, not because it is legendary, but becasue it will be legendary after they get back together

God! I was checking on Allmusic.com, and I noticed under the genre choices, there was no Allman Brothers or Phish genres!!! :rolleyes:.

If any band is a Jam Band, it's Phish. As for the bolded comment, not every Jam Band is trying to copy Phish. Jam Bands come in all different types and forms. This reminds me of an ignorant statement Tangy Zizzle once made, stating "Ben Harper is too good to be a Jam Band".

[panicPHIRE]

nice insult...really hurt deep
lets just get over that and name some good jam bands and keep in mind we all got different opinions

wsp
derek trucks band
keller williams
moonshine still
MMW
string cheese incident

[6Stringer]

I'm bummed right now, Drive By-Truckers are playing in my town at this very moment and I can't go because I got grounded :angry: I'll be able to go to concerts at the end of May though so thats good, I guess.

[PinkFreud]

nice insult...really hurt deep
lets just get over that and name some good jam bands and keep in mind we all got different opinions

wsp
derek trucks band
keller williams
moonshine still
MMW
string cheese incident
the problem is that for most of your post, you stated your opinion as fact.

the allman brothers
phish



haha

[Kingadamx]

I'm Bummed that Zooma got cancelled. :upset:

[jpj]

I'm Bummed that Zooma got cancelled. :upset:
Yea, so am I :(

[6Stringer]

Yar so be I.

[jpj]

Well, I got Allman Brothers tickets today, so that's good.

[weazelzb]

umphreys mcgee...

[panicPHIRE]

the problem is that for most of your post, you stated your opinion as fact.
the allman brothers
phish



haha



your a faggot and dumb****, opinions arent facts so how could i state my opinion as fact? and if your trying be all funnny saying abb and phish are jam bands then thats your opinion so quit being gay about it

[Badmoon]

your a faggot and dumb****, opinions arent facts so how could i state my opinion as fact? and if your trying be all funnny saying abb and phish are jam bands then thats your opinion so quit being gay about it

You told us that we were wrong thinking that The Allman Brothers and Phish are Jam Bands. You stated it as though you had proof, your opinion was 100% right (therefore a fact) and our's was wrong. Though of course you have no proof, and by a magority count, you wrong.

[jpj]

Wait, explain to me again why ABB and Phish aren't jam bands?

[HitHardDrums55]

www.cdbaby.com

search for Green Light
CD: My Experiments With Groove

amazing jam band
some songs are much better than others on the album but all of the longer ones are really good...check em out and buy the CD

[mizzouht]

Only a week till bonnaroo

Check out this site:
http://tinyurl.com/97dtu

Peace

[KMidura]

if your trying be all funnny saying abb and phish are jam bands then thats your opinion
How is that being funny. It is not his opinion that they are jam bands, they are jam bands. The term jam band came about in order to describe bands such as the Grateful Dead and ABB. Phish came later, and not only are they a jam band according to themselves, but many consider them to be the defining jam band. It seems to me that you believe that once a jam band becomes well known by the mainstream culture they lose their title. This is obviously not the case. You are entitled to believe they are not jam bands (though you'd be wrong) and you are also entitled to express your belief, but if you expect to change any of our minds, cite reasons as to why you don't believe them to be a jam band rather than merely insulting people as that only proves our point that you don't know what you're talking about. You can't come up with logic to prove your point, so you try to call people gay instead? Real convincing arguement you go there.

[JamesPatrickPageZoSo]

your a faggot and dumb****, opinions arent facts so how could i state my opinion as fact? and if your trying be all funnny saying abb and phish are jam bands then thats your opinion so quit being gay about it

lol, this dink is cracking me up. anyway, who has seen Trey lately? I saw him in Milwaukee not to long ago and he busted out some great covers (zeppelin, beatles, phil collins). anybody here hear his version of 'I Dig A Pony'? i was sort of bummed he didnt play it cause ive been wondering what (if any) changes he makes to it.

[H<<<<<<<<GUILDS>>>]

THIS SITE ****ING SUCKS POO. COME TO http://www.fohguild.org/forums/index.php IF YOU WANT TO SEE A DECENT FORUM!!! By the way, You tangle an exposed hat.

[panicPHIRE]

alright yall are geting kind of gay about this whole abb phish tihng...it is my opinion so shut the **** up about it...everyone else states thier opinion nad you dont have to go looking for "proof" against them

[panicPHIRE]

How is that being funny. It is not his opinion that they are jam bands, they are jam bands. The term jam band came about in order to describe bands such as the Grateful Dead and ABB. Phish came later, and not only are they a jam band according to themselves, but many consider them to be the defining jam band. It seems to me that you believe that once a jam band becomes well known by the mainstream culture they lose their title. This is obviously not the case. You are entitled to believe they are not jam bands (though you'd be wrong) and you are also entitled to express your belief, but if you expect to change any of our minds, cite reasons as to why you don't believe them to be a jam band rather than merely insulting people as that only proves our point that you don't know what you're talking about. You can't come up with logic to prove your point, so you try to call people gay instead? Real convincing arguement you go there.


alright, dont ever mention phish being like the grateful dead because that is not who they are. they are not trying to be like the grateful dead. they have been working hard since the earlier 80's to break out of being called a grateful dead cover band. they created thier own style that is fun and different. they improvised jamming to a higher degree no one had imagined.
oh yeha and what is your hole deal anyway..trying to contrdict what isay?...your saying its wrong to insult people but then you jsut go and do it to me...as trey says in bittersweet motel "kiss my *** you ****ing tool"...i'll be looking foward to your next message ...im sure it will make my day

[jpj]

they improvised jamming to a higher degree no one had imagined.
Yea, maybe that's why they're called a JAM BAND.

[Schyma]

Are there any psychedelic Jam Bands that are currently playing?

[TheDMV]

Any body going to Bonnaroo? I've got a friend who's going and I'm pa-retty jealous. Some of the groups they've got playing there are amazing. It's very diverse too.

[6Stringer]

I'm trying to talk my dad into letting me go to Bonnaroo, so far no luck.

[keep on phishin']

I'm going.

I'm glad W.P. is playing 2 shows, should be a good time. :D

[TheDMV]

If I'd go I think I'd be most interested in JAck Johnson. I know he isb't a Jam guy, but I absolutley love his songs. I'd also really want to see waht that girl Claypool's playing with is like.

[Badmoon]

I'm going.

I'm glad W.P. is playing 2 shows, should be a good time. :D

Still into Jimmy Herring?

[keep on phishin']

Still into Jimmy Herring?


Very much so, especially his stuff on Jazz is Dead. It's hard to believe how terribly underrated Jimmy and all of his bands are.

Have you heard Jazz Is Dead - Great Sky River by any chance Badmoon?

[Daniel!]

If I could go I would be the happiest person on earth. I might be able to go to a local festivel called the Sierra Music Festival thogh. Gov't Mule, Les Claypool, and Garage Mahal are playing at it to name a few. Should be pretty cool.

[Badmoon]

Very much so, especially his stuff on Jazz is Dead. It's hard to believe how terribly underrated Jimmy and all of his bands are.

Have you heard Jazz Is Dead - Great Sky River by any chance Badmoon?

Nope, haven't heard that one. Is it good?

[keep on phishin']

Yeah, it's a live album but it plays some of my favorite Grateful Dead songs like China Cat Sunflower, Saint Stephen, and Morning Dew thats probaly why I like it better than the others.

[Badmoon]

Nice, I could only find Laughing Water, which I have. I'll keep lookin' :).

[KMidura]

alright, dont ever mention phish being like the grateful dead because that is not who they are. they are not trying to be like the grateful dead. they have been working hard since the earlier 80's to break out of being called a grateful dead cover band. they created thier own style that is fun and different. they improvised jamming to a higher degree no one had imagined.
oh yeha and what is your hole deal anyway..trying to contrdict what isay?...your saying its wrong to insult people but then you jsut go and do it to me...as trey says in bittersweet motel "kiss my *** you ****ing tool"...i'll be looking foward to your next message ...im sure it will make my day
Firstly, I didn't say they were like the Grateful Dead, I said they were in the same genre, which happens to have a very wide definition. Secondly, who the hell would call them a cover band, I personally have never heard them play a Dead song, and even if they did cover one or two they certainly don't do it enough to be considered a cover band. Thirdly, I never insulted you, you might want to go back and read what I said again. Finally, thank you for essentially admitting that they are in fact a jam band.

[megan bacon]

what is the official meaning of being a jam band then?

[panicPHIRE]

Secondly, who the hell would call them a cover band, I personally have never heard them play a Dead song, and even if they did cover one or two they certainly don't do it enough to be considered a cover band.
Finally, thank you for essentially admitting that they are in fact a jam band.

are you ****ing kidding me? phish started out covering some grateful dead tunes such as scarlet begonias, eyes of the world, fire on the mountain, bertha etc.. but then they stopped playing those songs so that they wouldnt be compared to the grateful dead like your gay *** is doing. if you knew anything at all you would know that people have been caling phish a second take on the grateful dead for thier whole history

jsut becasue i said phish improvised jamming doesnt mean anytihng close to them being a jam band. if a punk gothic band jammed for 15 minutes in one song would they be condsidered a jam band? why do you think phish is a jam band and if it is then why. what your characteristics of jam band?

phish plays a wide variety of different music which means you can't put them into one specific genre.

[panicPHIRE]

what is the official meaning of being a jam band then?

there is no offical meaning. it is just a title held by bands given to them by people like KMidura who cant appreciate the vibes given by bands...so wah tim trying to say is that being called a jam band is a loosely given word....oh by the way, KMidura is a tool

[ambiguouslyjay]

there is no offical meaning. it is just a title held by bands given to them by people like KMidura who cant appreciate the vibes given by bands...so wah tim trying to say is that being called a jam band is a loosely given word....oh by the way, KMidura is a tool
I don't see why you associate the term "jam band" in a negative connotation.

[Badmoon]

what is the official meaning of being a jam band then?

A Jam Band (generally) is a band that has influence from the Grateful Dead and/or the Allman Brothers Band. Even though some of their influence is loose on the occasional Jam Band there is some there, for the Grateful Dead and the A.B.B. paved the way for these Jam Bands by doing what they are now known for (Improv, bootlegging, constant tours, influence) but much earlier.

For one, Jam Bands perform free form improvisation frequently. However, many bands do that, so why aren't they called Jam Bands? Well, Jam Bands are notoriously known for the amount of influence they bring in; it is usually common to hear a band use a variety of different genres. The genres are usually American Root (Country, Bluegrass, etc) genres and Jazz, however, Rock is usually the base of their music.

Aswell as high influence, Jam Bands are known for their constant touring and performances at festivals. It's quite easy to catch a load of Jam Bands coming to your town during the year, because they tour constantly. You can also usually bring a tape recorded and record it.

That's just a basic definition (if you ask me). Books and such have released others.

[jpj]

phish plays a wide variety of different music which means you can't put them into one specific genre.
Jam bands don't have to fit into one specific type of music. Gov't Mule plays for the most part blues-rock, where SCI is more along the lines of jazz and bluegrass. They are both jam bands, are they not?

[i4miss2phish0]

i think phish is to magical to be considered just a jamband as so many others are called; and no, phish is not a genre of music, but can you say what genre do they fit in? yes they had a lot of jamming going on in their music and were known for their live performances,however, so many other bands that do not tend to jam out as much are also considered jambands. i see where panicphire is coming from on this one,although he is not making his point as clear,but it is hard to actually determine what makes a band a jamband.you cant describe phish in words,let alone put the guys in one category as being just a jamband when they are so much more than that...

[6Stringer]

You're a dumb****, get out and don't come back here again.

[jpj]

You're a dumb****, get out and don't come back here again.
A little harsh, but I agree.

[e p]

Jesus christ, how many Phish fanboys have we had in the past two days? And they're all dumb as rocks.

eeshh

[PinkFreud]

jsut becasue i said phish improvised jamming doesnt mean anytihng close to them being a jam band. if a punk gothic band jammed for 15 minutes in one song would they be condsidered a jam band? why do you think phish is a jam band and if it is then why. what your characteristics of jam band?

phish plays a wide variety of different music which means you can't put them into one specific genre.
if a punk gothic band improvised and jammed for 15 minutes in one song, were known especially for shining specifically in a live environment, and incorporated aspects of other genres and what not into said jam then yes, i would consider them a jam band.

and to your second point in my quote, just because they play around with other varieties of music doesnt mean theyre not a jam band. rather, it strengthens my argument. the allman brothers and the grateful dead both incorporated other genres into their music and many people consider them the prototypical jam bands.


by the way, your posts are so riddled with typos that theyve gotten hard to read. maybe try cleaning it up?

p.s. im not gay and you trying to say that other people are only makes you seem insecure and immature and makes it that much harder to respect what youre trying to say.


:thumb:

[panicPHIRE]

You're a dumb****, get out and don't come back here again.


who are calling a dumb**** cause all of yall must hate phish or soemthing becasue it is the one guy who agrees with me and you tell him to get out?..man you must be cool as ****..yeah i bet..faggot ***...and by hte wya to all of yall PHISH A GOOD BAND AND NONE OF YALL SHOULD HAVE THE PRIVALIGE OF LISTENING TO THIER MUSIC

[panicPHIRE]

all im trying to say is quite dissing

[jpj]

and to your second point in my quote, just because they play around with other varieties of music doesnt mean theyre not a jam band. rather, it strengthens my argument. the allman brothers and the grateful dead both incorporated other genres into their music and many people consider them the prototypical jam bands.
Exactly. The Dead went from Psychedelia to Country-Rock like it was nothing, then later incorporated everything from reggae to hints of disco. The Allmans often used jazz improvisation along with blues-rock (Elizabeth Reed). Genre crossing, in the first jam bands.

[jpj]

all im trying to say is quite dissing
No one ever said Phish was a bad band. They are magnificent band, a magnificent jam band.

[PinkFreud]

who are calling a dumb**** cause all of yall must hate phish or soemthing becasue it is the one guy who agrees with me and you tell him to get out?..man you must be cool as ****..yeah i bet..faggot ***...and by hte wya to all of yall PHISH A GOOD BAND AND NONE OF YALL SHOULD HAVE THE PRIVALIGE OF LISTENING TO THIER MUSIC
none of us are "dissing" phish. were justifying our labeling of them as a jam band. i really dont see why youre so adverse to calling them that. theres absolutely nothing wrong with it.

[Badmoon]

hints of disco.

Yes hints, nothing more than hints...

*slowly backs away*

:p

[thickasabrick]

This is my first time posting in this thread...and all I can say is I'm very ashamed of how you guys treat people with different opinions than your own.

Since everyone's arguing about what constitutes a jam band, I'd sum in up by simply saying a jam band is a band whose live performances are their strong point, instead of albums or videos. I'd consider Phish a jam band.

I recently bought Enlightened Rogues by ABB on vinyl (fifty cents!). I haven't actually gotten a chance to listen to it though yet, since I bought like thirty other albums and I haven't had a whole lot of time to get through them all (yes I realize the Allman Bros should have been higher up on my list). What do you guys think of Enlightened Rogues? I notice most people mainly refer to Eat a Peach and Live at Fillmore, so I don't get a chance to hear about a lot of their other albums.

[6Stringer]

who are calling a dumb**** cause all of yall must hate phish or soemthing becasue it is the one guy who agrees with me and you tell him to get out?..man you must be cool as ****..yeah i bet..faggot ***...and by hte wya to all of yall PHISH A GOOD BAND AND NONE OF YALL SHOULD HAVE THE PRIVALIGE OF LISTENING TO THIER MUSIC

Did I ever in my post say Phish was a bad band? No. Phish is an amazing band. I like the way you put words in people's mouth too and the way you can get by the swear filter.

[e p]

Guys lets just keep our good vibe we had going. Just ignore list em

[6Stringer]

Ok on a different subject, Jerry Garcia and David Grisman "Grateful Dawg" good buy yes or no and why.

[PinkFreud]

Ok on a different subject, Jerry Garcia and David Grisman "Grateful Dawg" good buy yes or no and why.
movie or soundtrack.

i have the soundtrack, i like it.

[6Stringer]

movie or soundtrack.

i have the soundtrack, i like it.

Soundtrack, I've seen the movie it's good.

[Walrus Gumboot]

Yes hints, nothing more than hints...

*slowly backs away*

:p


Is Shakedown Street the only one, or are there more?

[Badmoon]

Is Shakedown Street the only one, or are there more?

Not really.

[HitHardDrums55]

that makes no sense...that wasnt even a yes or no question...

[Badmoon]

No, there are not really anymore. Some may slightly resemble a Disco song through as keyboard tone or whatever, but have lean towards another genre more so. I was adressing the final question.

Geez

[robo2448]

Stupid disco corrupting good music. The worst part is that a lot of disco-influenced songs are really catchy and sometimes even good like Miss You by The Stones.

Well to make this a somewhat useful post I personally feel that a jamband needs to definite characteristics. Most importantly they improvise for extended periods on stage, and I also notice that pretty much every jamband has a ton of different influences. Phish has a ton of jazz influence, especially on their 1st album. I know this issue was already resolved but I just felt like getting my 2 cents in. :thumb:

[HitHardDrums55]

everybody go to www.cdbaby.com and check out green light...i believe theyre under acid jazz...theyre a jam band though...i know the drummer has a lot of influence from classic rock bands and a lot of jazz while they also take styles from several different cultures and improvise it on stage...most of their cd is live recordings.. post what u think about them

[Badmoon]

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Hooray!!

[Walrus Gumboot]

No, there are not really anymore. Some may slightly resemble a Disco song through as keyboard tone or whatever, but have lean towards another genre more so. I was adressing the final question.

Geez

I heard Tangled Up In Blue a while ago and it sounded like Jerry singing. It was a bit disco-eque in the Shakedown Street tradition

I found Phish's Rift and a Picture of Nectar last night, any insight?

[Badmoon]

I heard Tangled Up In Blue a while ago and it sounded like Jerry singing. It was a bit disco-eque in the Shakedown Street tradition

Sure, but I don't think any of them are as Disco as "Shakedown Street.

I found Phish's Rift and a Picture of Nectar last night, any insight?

Best song

Picture of Nectar: "Poor Heart"
Rift: "Sparkle"

[i4miss2phish0]

picture of nectar -"guelah papyrus","stash", and i like "landlady" alot but i guess you could just listen to "pyite" to hear it.im not a big fan of the album rift but id have to say "its ice" and "horn" are probably my favorites from that album. i dont like "sparkle" live because it doesnt vary enough from each time they play it to me, but the studio version is alright.

[Walrus Gumboot]

Cool, thanks

How do they rank in the great scheme of things (aka Phish's discography)