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ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond
02-28-2005, 06:35 AM
awhile ago i mentioned blue floyd, the pink floyd blues cover band headed by the lateallen woody, with the guitarist from the black crowes and matt abts on drums. i just found out they are back with a new singer. If anyone is in the southeast Pa/ east jersey area you should come check them out at the Pink Floyd fest.

EDIT: berry oakley is in the band also

Badmoon
02-28-2005, 07:22 AM
Black Crowes guitarists: Rich Robinson, Audley Freed, etc

And I strongly doubt Berry Oakley is in that band. It'd be a little hard for him.

KMidura
02-28-2005, 07:46 AM
I'd also like to add a few bands to the list:

Greyspoke Variety
The Breakfast
Jerry Garcia Band
Derek Trucks Band
EkoostiK Hookah
Max Creek
Dark Star Orchestra
Tea Leaf Green

If a couple of these were mentioned earlier, my apologies but I don't recall them being named.

jpj
02-28-2005, 01:59 PM
Black Crowes guitarists: Rich Robinson, Audley Freed, etc

And I strongly doubt Berry Oakley is in that band. It'd be a little hard for him.
Maybe he meant Berry Oakley Jr. :confused:

pegwedge
02-28-2005, 02:41 PM
I saw moe. last night. They were frickin sweet. It was the first time I had seen them. Excellent show.

6Stringer
02-28-2005, 04:12 PM
My friend got me hooked on Sound Tribe Sector 9, I don't really like them too well but they're ok. I perfer DJ Logic over them.

Jam2Me
02-28-2005, 04:14 PM
I'm saying labels don't really mean much, but believe what you want. Either way, Jack Johnson is at least close to a Jam artists.
Yeah I don't believe in labels either.

I saw Sountribe Sector 9 live at Toad's they put on a great live show.

KMidura
02-28-2005, 05:15 PM
How did none of us mention Jimi Hendrix, the Grateful Dead or Phish?

Badmoon
02-28-2005, 05:26 PM
1.) Jimi Hendrix is not a Jam Band.
2.) You're wrong. We mentioned both of those numerous amounts of times.

KMidura
02-28-2005, 05:46 PM
how is Jimi Hendrix not a Jam Band? Have you ever listened to his live stuff? Do yourself a favor and check out some of the streamable shows on sugarmegs.org

As far as the GD/Phish thing, i was referring to the question posed on the previous page, and missed it in the wrap text, my apologies

Badmoon
02-28-2005, 06:07 PM
how is Jimi Hendrix not a Jam Band? Have you ever listened to his live stuff? Do yourself a favor and check out some of the streamable shows on sugarmegs.org

He is not. His recorded albums are not based upon jams, he sticks to one genre, and actually came before and died before the classification.

Badmoon
02-28-2005, 06:12 PM
He also did not emphasize the importance of live shows.

And while we're at it, why isn't the Mahavishnu Orchestra not a Jam Band? How about Miles Davis, or Charles Mingus?

Because "Jam Band" is a genre, not a label for bands that simply "jam".

Broken Arrow
02-28-2005, 06:19 PM
If a Jam Band meant a band that jammed could be one we would be over flowed with jam bands.

KMidura
02-28-2005, 06:20 PM
He also did not emphasize the importance of live shows.
1)if you listen to any studio recordings of major commercial jam bands they are severely lacking in jams
2)Bob Dylan refused to believe he was the voice of a generation or a prophet, but does that mean that he was right. Just because Jimi downlplayed the importance of live shows does not mean I have to.
3)How does leaving the scene before the term "Jam Band" was coined make the term any less pertinent when describing the music. Last I knew, one could describe an event with a word that was younger than the event. If we all were to take this stance, the history of ancient greece should not be discussed in our schools, it is a ridiculous premise.
4)The fact of the matter is that the number of live shows he performed far outnumbers the amount of studio albums he produced, thus how he is defined should be by his live performances. Many bands are very different live than they are in the studio, and I believe bands should be judged by their live performances, as that is the true meterstick for skill and the overall experience

KMidura
02-28-2005, 06:24 PM
If a Jam Band meant a band that jammed could be one we would be over flowed with jam bands.
I would define a Jam band as any band who dramatically extends the length of a song improvisationally, and in which the jam greatly adds to the overall effect of the song. How would you define it? I find it very difficult to do so

KMidura
02-28-2005, 06:31 PM
He also did not emphasize the importance of live shows.
Because "Jam Band" is a genre, not a label for bands that simply "jam".
I'd argue that the label describes the genre, how are we to describe bands if we can't label them as such. A band may have several different genres, and thus several different labels. The label simply refers back to the genre

Badmoon
02-28-2005, 06:33 PM
3)How does leaving the scene before the term "Jam Band" was coined make the term any less pertinent when describing the music. Last I knew, one could describe an event with a word that was younger than the event. If we all were to take this stance, the history of ancient greece should not be discussed in our schools, it is a ridiculous premise.

Well, there is most certainly a pattern.

I would define a Jam band as any band who dramatically extends the length of a song improvisationally, and in which the jam greatly adds to the overall effect of the song. How would you define it? I find it very difficult to do so

A Jam Band does not just jam. They base themselves upon cult following, influence (Usually playing a variety of Root genres), and live events.

The fact of the matter is that the number of live shows he performed far outnumbers the amount of studio albums he produced, thus how he is defined should be by his live performances. Many bands are very different live than they are in the studio, and I believe bands should be judged by their live performances, as that is the true meterstick for skill and the overall experience

Almost every band's live shows out number their albums, but that does not mean they put more work into there live shows, live for their live shows and without them would be nothing.

Jimi Hendrix could easily be classified as Album Rock for a reason.

I'd argue that the label describes the genre, how are we to describe bands if we can't label them as such. A band may have several different genres, and thus several different labels. The label simply refers back to the genre

Miles Davis jams, but he and his band are not a Jam Band. They may play metal guitarists, but they are not a Metal band. Miles Davis is a Jazz artists who dabbles in improvisation, but does not contain the characteristics of a Jam Band.

KMidura
02-28-2005, 06:37 PM
And while we're at it, why isn't the Mahavishnu Orchestra not a Jam Band? How about Miles Davis, or Charles Mingus?


of these bands genre's, I must plead ignorance, as the only one I have listened to is Miles Davis, and that listening has been limited. If you could link me to any of their live shows I'd be more than happy to give them a listen sometime later and respond to this question, but as of this time I have not listened to any of them enough to be able make a fair judgement

Badmoon
02-28-2005, 06:40 PM
of these bands genre's, I must plead ignorance, as the only one I have listened to is Miles Davis, and that listening has been limited. If you could link me to any of their live shows I'd be more than happy to give them a listen sometime later and respond to this question, but as of this time I have not listened to any of them enough to be able make a fair judgement

Here they are each a Jam Band/Artist who improvises. I have no links to give you, but they play Jazz.

Another example of a genre that has a name that doesn't tell all you need to know, Stoner Rock.

Bands like the Grateful Dead and The Velvet Underground are not Stoner Rock bands. You may listen to them while stoner, but they do not fit the description of a Stoner Rock band like groups like Kyuss do.

Broken Arrow
02-28-2005, 06:40 PM
Jimi was pretty big live wasn't he?

Like he owned Woodstock, did well at Monteray and play alot of other shows. I have Jimi Plays Berekly and its awesome but I still wouldn't count him as a Jam Band.

Although -Voodoo Chile is a friggin' sweet jam

KMidura
02-28-2005, 06:54 PM
Well, there is most certainly a pattern.



A Jam Band does not just jam. They base themselves upon cult following, influence (Usually playing a variety of Root genres), and live events.



Almost every band's live shows out number their albums, but that does not mean they put more work into there live shows, live for their live shows and without them would be nothing.

Jimi Hendrix could easily be classified as Album Rock for a reason.



Miles Davis jams, but he and his band are not a Jam Band. They may play metal guitarists, but they are not a Metal band. Miles Davis is a Jazz artists who dabbles in improvisation, but does not contain the characteristics of a Jam Band.
1)What pattern is developing? I don't know what you're are referring to, probably my ignorance, but I am definetly left in the dark by this comment

2)You cannot claim that definition to be the definition of jam band, it may be yours, however (quote from JamBands.com)
"The following definition appeared in the program for the first annual Jammys at Irving Plaza on June 22.

What Is a Jam Band?

Please cast aside any preconceptions that this phrase may evoke. The term, as it is commonly used today, references a rich palette of sounds and textures. These groups share a collective penchant for improvisation, a commitment to songcraft and a propensity to cross genre boundaries, drawing from a range of traditions including blues, bluegrass, funk, jazz, rock, psychedelia and even techno. In addition, the jam bands of today are unified by the nimble ears of their receptive listeners."
By my count Jimi accounts for all of those except for the crossing of boundaries which he does do, but not to the extent of many other jam bands, that being said the term propensity (for those of you who don't know) means "an inclination towards", not that it is mandatory, if this term is so loosely defined by those paid to write about and expose the jam band scene, why are we being so picky?

3)I did not claim that they put more effort into their live work, I claimed that the total amount of music available to listeners is comprised mostly of live music. Also, live shows portray the true band, as there are no second chances.

4)You say that he can be classified as album rock for a reason but don't state the reason?

KMidura
02-28-2005, 06:56 PM
Jimi was pretty big live wasn't he?

Like he owned Woodstock, did well at Monteray and play alot of other shows. I have Jimi Plays Berekly and its awesome but I still wouldn't count him as a Jam Band.

Although -Voodoo Chile is a friggin' sweet jam
Speaking of Monterey, that is perhaps the best CD set I have in my collection, for those of you who don't have it, it is a great collection. Multiple disks, and even comes with a book. Don't remember how much it cost.

Badmoon
02-28-2005, 07:03 PM
4)You say that he can be classified as album rock for a reason but don't state the reason?

Well, if one is an album rock band, they are usually more known and into their albums.

1)What pattern is developing? I don't know what you're are referring to, probably my ignorance, but I am definetly left in the dark by this comment

My previous that topic wasn't great, but there is a pattern (Though most likely useless). Notice how The Allmans and The Dead, etc had played for years and then suddenly the classification arrived.

The name arrived after the first real wave of jam bands arose. Phish and Widespread Panic and The Aquarium Rescue Unit spotted and were definitely influenced by both the Grateful Dead and the Allman Brothers. Because of that, those two groups are known as the first and forefathers of Jam Bands. It may seem irelevant, but it is an idea that comes up often.

By my count Jimi accounts for all of those except for the crossing of boundaries which he does do, but not to the extent of many other jam bands, that being said the term propensity (for those of you who don't know) means "an inclination towards", not that it is mandatory, if this term is so loosely defined by those paid to write about and expose the jam band scene, why are we being so picky?

I am not trying to be picky, there are bands that are jam bands and some that aren't. That is why you so rarely here Jimi Hendrix mentioned in Relix, Dupree's Diamond Blues, etc. Though he may fit most of them, he does not fit all. And believe it or not, I am not the one fighting to make Jimi Hendrix not a Jam artists. Some actually believe he is too Psychedelic. Which would make the Grateful Dead not a Jam Band in their earliest years. It's like how Phish play an extroadinary amount of Jazz. Why aren't they a Jazz band, because they do not possess the required attributes.

KMidura
02-28-2005, 07:08 PM
Does anyone have any good recommendations for shows on sugarmegs.org, lots of shows there, but with so many to choose from I don't know where to start.

big69
02-28-2005, 07:14 PM
page 22 snypa

KMidura
02-28-2005, 07:28 PM
Well, if one is an album rock band, they are usually more known and into their albums.

the name arrived after the first real wave of jam bands arose. Phish and Widespread Panic and The Aquarium Rescue Unit spotted and were definitely influenced by both the Grateful Dead and the Allman Brothers. Because of that, those two groups are known as the first and forefathers of Jam Bands. It may seem irelevant, but it is an idea that comes up often.

I am not being picky, there are band that are jam bands and some that aren't. That is why you so rarely here Jimi Hendrix mentioned in Relix, Dupree's Diamond Blues, etc...Though he may fit most of them, he does not fit all. And believe it or not, I am not the one fighting to make Jimi Hendrix not a Jam artists. It's like how Phish play an extroadinary amount of Jazz. Why aren't they a Jazz band, because they do not possess the required attributes.
Well, then clearly for me they are defined as a jam band, not only because they fit the Jammy's description, but mostly due to the fact that when i think of Hendrix I think of Monterey, and Woodstock. And this is the major difference that we have and will be unable to rectify, as you clearly think of their studio work. I completely respect your view, I just simply disagree. We also seem to disagree that a band can be of multiple genres. I would agree with the statement that at times Phish can be decribed as being in the jazz genre. These labels are altogether too broad, and each band has their own style, so in my opinion, one must define bands as being in multiple genres, or the description will fail to convey the sort of music they play. As far as the two publications you cited, I am not an avid reader of either, and cannot comment, but you did say that they were mentioned, even if only rarely. I would never try to place Jimi among the Jam Greats who epitomize the genre. Clearly they are not the pinnacle of a jamband like ABB, GD, and PH. That being said, few do. But one must also remember that as you point out the term was coined in order to define ABB, GD, and PH.

Thank you for responding to the one's that I didn't understand, I knew that the term arrived after both the ABB and GD, and agree that they are the forefathers, but did not know its true history

On a different note, I'd like to suggest a band to you, as they have drawn off the dead and phish to create their music, while also blending jazz and funk and I believe you would like them. In fact, one of the lead guitarists is the son of DSO's Rob Eaton (also named Rob Eaton). Their name is Greyspoke Variety, and can be found on Archive.org, i would suggest the show from 2005-01-07 which can be found on staff picks. I have to leave now, but this discussion has been both informative and entertaining

Badmoon
02-28-2005, 07:54 PM
Thanks, I'll check them out :)

pegwedge
02-28-2005, 09:15 PM
Wow. I just downloaded the Greyspoke Variety show KMidura recommended and it's incredible. I think they may be moving up on my list of favorite bands. Definately worth a download. Go check them out.

Jam2Me
02-28-2005, 09:16 PM
Yeah my download was pretty good too, nice reccomendation.

Jam2Me
03-01-2005, 02:36 PM
awhile ago i mentioned blue floyd, the pink floyd blues cover band headed by the lateallen woody, with the guitarist from the black crowes and matt abts on drums. i just found out they are back with a new singer. If anyone is in the southeast Pa/ east jersey area you should come check them out at the Pink Floyd fest.

EDIT: berry oakley is in the band also
BLUE FLOYD:
The brainchild of Michael Gaiman, who previously assembled Jazz Is Dead, a potent jazz-rock band that performed Grateful Dead songs with a jazz emphasis, Blue Floyd features Jeff Pevar on lead guitars from Phil Lesh & Friends, Crosby/Nash and Ray Charles; Audley Freed on guitar and vocals, formerly with the Black Crowes and Jimmy Page; Johnny Neel on keyboards, harp and vocals, previously with the Allman Brothers Band; Berry Oakley Jr. on bass and vocals, formerly with and The Doors and the Robby Krieger Band and Matt Abts on drums, previously with Gov’t Mule.

Walrus Gumboot
03-01-2005, 03:27 PM
Yeah I don't believe in labels either.

I saw Sountribe Sector 9 live at Toad's they put on a great live show.

In New Haven? I gotta go there more often

pegwedge
03-01-2005, 04:56 PM
Any of you guys like The Breakfast? I downloaded a couple of their shows last night and they're better than I expected. Of course that could be why they won "New Groove" last year at the Jammys.

Anyway, on a different note; I saw moe. on Sunday night in Morgantown and I must say, it was excellent. My first moe. concert and unfortuately only my second jam concert. Not too many people come to West Virginia and I'm about 2 hours from Morgantown as it is. I see that I missed Gov't Mule a couple days earlier, but I might head up again for Old Crow Medicine Show tomorrow night.

I guess I'll just sit here and wait for someone to hopefully post the moe. show on the archives.

Walrus Gumboot
03-01-2005, 05:19 PM
Someone recommended them to me and I listened to some of their stuff on their website, y me gustan :D Maybe they are coming around here soon, I will have to check

edit: nope.

Badmoon
03-01-2005, 05:24 PM
Who'd you all vote for?

And please do not vote for anything by Umphrey's McGee. Anchor Drops and everything on it sucks. (IMO)

pegwedge
03-01-2005, 05:33 PM
What'dya know? The Breakfast is coming around here the beginning of April. Alright.

e p
03-01-2005, 05:36 PM
Who'd you all vote for?

And please do not vote for anything by Umphrey's McGee. Anchor Drops and everything on it sucks. (IMO)


As much as I would like to vote for Phish summer tour for best tour I voted Acoustic Planet as it was insane to see.

Jam2Me
03-01-2005, 05:48 PM
In New Haven? I gotta go there more often
Yeah, go there this Friday to see The Breakfast :thumb:

ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond
03-01-2005, 05:59 PM
Black Crowes guitarists: Rich Robinson, Audley Freed, etc

And I strongly doubt Berry Oakley is in that band. It'd be a little hard for him.


berry oakley jr.*


and it's audley freed

EDIT: nvm, jam2me corrected me. sorry for the post full of errors.

ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond
03-01-2005, 06:12 PM
Is anyone going to check out Hydra? I don't know if it will be the same Particle sound, with Mickey Hart on drums, or if it will have a new sound like they say it will. Seems like the majority of it's hype is from the fact that Mickey Hart is from the Grateful Dead.

Badmoon
03-01-2005, 07:24 PM
As much as I would like to vote for Phish summer tour for best tour I voted Acoustic Planet as it was insane to see.

I voted the same. Though I did not see see the tour (I should have been at the same concert as you), I heard from friends it was great.

Badmoon
03-01-2005, 07:26 PM
and it's audley freed

Awesome, definitley one of my favorite guitarists. I'll check them out.

jerm267
03-02-2005, 03:43 PM
im seeing ratdog and assembly of dust in april. i noticed man with a plan by assembly is up for a jammy. its pretty cool

pegwedge
03-02-2005, 07:29 PM
Anybody here planning on going to Bonnaroo?

Jam2Me
03-02-2005, 08:37 PM
Anybody here planning on going to Bonnaroo?

I am :cool:


Hey jerm I saw them live with Reid Genauer not too long ago, they are awesome.

nectarjam
03-02-2005, 08:54 PM
Anybody here planning on going to Bonnaroo?
If i had a car I would definitely be there. But since i don't, me and 2 of my friends are planning on going after either senior year of high school or freshman year of college.

jpj
03-02-2005, 09:05 PM
If everything goes well, I hope to go to Bonaroo senior year instead of the beach like everyone else.

Jam2Me
03-03-2005, 01:05 PM
If i had a car I would definitely be there. But since i don't, me and 2 of my friends are planning on going after either senior year of high school or freshman year of college.
Do it senior year of high school, definitely.

We've been talking about this Berry Oakley Jr. guy....his father would be Berry Oakley AKA bassist for Allman Brothers? :confused:

jpj
03-03-2005, 04:34 PM
We've been talking about this Berry Oakley Jr. guy....his father would be Berry Oakley AKA bassist for Allman Brothers? :confused:
Correct.

jerm267
03-03-2005, 08:04 PM
i just ordered the honest hour from aod. i cant wait to see them. (4/20)

Jam2Me
03-03-2005, 08:14 PM
i just ordered the honest hour from aod. i cant wait to see them. (4/20)

Haha nice, I dunno what I'm planning on doing this year...

Wilson
03-03-2005, 08:56 PM
anyone going to bonnaroo this year?

Jam2Me
03-03-2005, 08:58 PM
anyone going to bonnaroo this year?
Heh, no offense but read the thread a bit before you post in it, the previous page deals with that question.

I'll be going though :cool: , stoked.

Wilson
03-03-2005, 09:04 PM
ah, sorry i read the first couple of pages, probably should have read the recent ones.


well im looking forward to going. Its a great line up so far, im just hoping that Les Claypool and Vida Blue get on the bill.

pegwedge
03-03-2005, 09:14 PM
I see that the Dead aren't on the bill for Bonnaroo yet. Does anyone know if they're gonna tour this year or not?

Jam2Me
03-03-2005, 09:19 PM
I see that the Dead aren't on the bill for Bonnaroo yet. Does anyone know if they're gonna tour this year or not?
It'll be the 40th annieversary so I'm guessing they'll do something...if Warren Haynes doesn't do anything with Mule I'm guessing The Dead will have a small summer tour.

Badmoon
03-03-2005, 09:23 PM
I'd be completely fine if they only took Jimmy Herring (Amazing guitarist!), which they may. But being that Warren is an official member of The Dead, I doubt it.

pegwedge
03-03-2005, 09:40 PM
Wow. I didn't even realize that this year was the 40th anniversary. They've come a long way from The Warlocks. :thumb:

nectarjam
03-04-2005, 09:43 AM
I'd like to see the dead tour with Gov't Mule. Anyone think that could happen?

Jam2Me
03-04-2005, 03:12 PM
Warren's arms might fall off if they do that :\

Kingadamx
03-04-2005, 11:35 PM
I'm going to see Widespread Panic in Upper Darby, PA. If someone could recommend me a good studio album by them, it would be greatly appreciated.

Jam2Me
03-04-2005, 11:56 PM
Space Wrangler would be a good reccomendation.

pegwedge
03-05-2005, 12:04 AM
Ball is decent.

jpj
03-05-2005, 06:07 PM
I'm going to see Widespread Panic in Upper Darby, PA. If someone could recommend me a good studio album by them, it would be greatly appreciated.
Space Wrangler is maginificent, Ball is good, I've heard wonderful things of 'Till the Mediciine Takes but haven't heard it myself.

I got moe.-Tin Cans and Car Tires today.

Badmoon
03-05-2005, 06:14 PM
1.) Space Wrangler
2.) S/t
2.) Til the Medicine Takes

I got moe.-Tin Cans and Car Tires today.

I only like "Again & Again" off of that album. It is a fantastic song.

Walrus Gumboot
03-05-2005, 06:48 PM
I got moe.-Tin Cans and Car Tires today.

How is it?

/has badmoon's opinon

ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond
03-05-2005, 08:40 PM
I'm going to see Widespread Panic in Upper Darby, PA. If someone could recommend me a good studio album by them, it would be greatly appreciated.

im going to that show as well.

Badmoon
03-05-2005, 09:15 PM
^Did you notice that in your avatar, the guy who is on fire looks like he is screwing the other guy?

I'd rep you for that, but it was disabled :(

jpj
03-05-2005, 10:05 PM
I only like "Again & Again" off of that album. It is a fantastic song.
You don't like Plane Crash....how can you not like Plane Crash :confused:

Broken Arrow
03-05-2005, 10:26 PM
^Did you notice that in your avatar, the guy who is on fire looks like he is screwing the other guy?

I'd rep you for that, but it was disabled :(
heh heh he is.:lol:

Badmoon
03-06-2005, 10:24 AM
You don't like Plane Crash....how can you not like Plane Crash :confused:

The recorded version is just okay.

jpj
03-06-2005, 01:32 PM
The recorded version is just okay.
So you like it live?

NP: moe.-Stranger Than Fiction

KMidura
03-06-2005, 09:20 PM
All this talk of Bonnaroo, is anyone going to Wanee in April? My senior year road trip, and after looking over the bands, must say i'm quite thrilled

Johnnymario
03-06-2005, 09:21 PM
my band can do long jams lol.. just play this transiction over n over...

Em-A
you can do this for hours
throwe in a slide guitar or sum effects n u have 6-7 hours of fun right there

Badmoon
03-06-2005, 10:09 PM
^What a boring band! And how uncreative.

Jam2Me
03-07-2005, 02:00 PM
The New Orleans Jazzfest will probably be better or equal to Bonnaroo.

If I find the link I'll put it up.

pegwedge
03-07-2005, 02:16 PM
I think I saw that on Jambase and I agree. It looks pretty **** good.

ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond
03-07-2005, 02:53 PM
^Did you notice that in your avatar, the guy who is on fire looks like he is screwing the other guy?

I'd rep you for that, but it was disabled :(

haha i guess i need a new avatar

Daniel!
03-07-2005, 08:45 PM
moe. is probably my current favorite jamband but that position switches often. If you go to www.nugs.net there is a TON of free shows to download by over 40 or so different jam bands and people like them.

pegwedge
03-07-2005, 08:49 PM
moe. is very good. Saw them live just over a week ago. Excellent.

Edit: Also, if you like nugs check http://www.archive.org/audio/etree.php for thousands of live shows from a lot of artists. They have a little over 2700 Dead shows, I think...and if that's not enough to make one visit that site then I don't know what is. :thumb:

nectarjam
03-08-2005, 02:07 PM
moe is good. I have some really good live recordings of them.

BigPoppa
03-08-2005, 04:38 PM
Another great place to get live jam music is www.furthurnet.com
Lots of good stuff here.

And on the subject of moe. every bassist should really give 'em a listen, Rob Derhak is great, dig his slappin.

pegwedge
03-08-2005, 11:43 PM
Rob is an excellent bass player. It's too bad they didn't have his bass turned up loud enough at the concert I was at. He'd throw in little slap and pop fills but you could barely hear them.

funkybeeatch14
03-09-2005, 05:33 PM
Im new....anyone here listen to Umphrey's? They're awesome, in my mind maybe as big as Phish someday...


Bold, i know but listen to some of their live shows.

www.bt.etree.org
www.umphreys.com

funkybeeatch14
03-09-2005, 05:36 PM
Sorry, thats bt.etree.org...

jpj
03-09-2005, 06:24 PM
New bands scheduled for Bonaroo:
The Word featuring Robert Randolph, Luther Dickinson, Cody Dickinson, Chris Chew and John Medeski

De La Soul

The Perceptionists featuring Mr. Lif, Akrobatik and DJ Fakts 1

Peter Rowan and Crucial Reggae

pegwedge
03-09-2005, 06:36 PM
Wait...is The Word one band featuring all of those guys? If so...nifty.

funkybeeatch14
03-09-2005, 08:28 PM
I cant stand Jack Johnson.

Badmoon
03-09-2005, 09:16 PM
New bands scheduled for Bonaroo:
The Word featuring Robert Randolph, Luther Dickinson, Cody Dickinson, Chris Chew and John Medeski

Luther Dickinson makes that band.

Jam2Me
03-09-2005, 09:27 PM
I cant stand Jack Johnson.
:mad: :angry:
That's your loss.

pegwedge
03-09-2005, 09:30 PM
I agree. Jack's where it's at if you just want to sit around and mellow out to some good acoustic guitar work. And the ladies like him so it's good to know a few Jack songs. ;)

Jam2Me
03-10-2005, 02:05 PM
Surfer + Director + Awesome Musician + Hawaiian = Cool
Hot wife is also factored in there.

Jam2Me
03-10-2005, 02:07 PM
Oh and Addison Groove Project is coming to a venue near me...the month of April is going to be busy for me...5 shows and 2 proms = I'M BROKE!

pegwedge
03-10-2005, 02:40 PM
I almost got to see Addison and Galactic together last year but I didn't get to go to the show. :(

jerm267
03-10-2005, 02:46 PM
i was disapointed cuz jack didnt have any new england shows posted on his site, but they just put one up somewhere in the boston area. gonna be awesome.

Jam2Me
03-10-2005, 03:24 PM
I wish Jack came to Connecticut this summer...Dave Matthews is coming twice and I think if he came once that would be too much.

pegwedge
03-10-2005, 04:10 PM
The closest Jack comes to me is North Carolina...a whole freakin state away. I'm in West Virginia by the way. He comes to Philly but that's an eight hour drive all in itself.

funkybeeatch14
03-10-2005, 05:26 PM
No tour dates set around my area (Albany, NY) except Vic Wooten on 3-19 which kinda sucks

Jam2Me
03-10-2005, 05:36 PM
No tour dates set around my area (Albany, NY) except Vic Wooten on 3-19 which kinda sucks
How far is NY from NYC? NY is usually loaded with great artists daily.

funkybeeatch14
03-10-2005, 05:58 PM
About 2 and a half hours from Albany to NYC, yeah the music scene is usually great. Oh yeah DMB coming to SPAC (Saratoga Performing Arts Center) but I dont much care for them.

Jam2Me
03-10-2005, 06:06 PM
OOh I didn't realize it was that far.

You're a fan of Umphrey's McGee (I'm guessing)?

I like a few of their songs...what would you reccomend?

funkybeeatch14
03-10-2005, 06:15 PM
Live From the Lake Coast is a sweet DVD...in terms of albums and shows, the show they played in Albany last January (? dont remember) is sweet. Check out bt.etree.org for some shows, (Portland) and for albums...Local band does Oklahoma has a dank version of Der Bluten Kat. That, Jimmy Stewart, JaJunk and Push the Pig are some of my favorite tracks.


November was tha Albany show.

jerm267
03-10-2005, 06:48 PM
its worth a trip for jack. before mass was anounced i was plannin on takin a trip to ny, which i still mite do. i live in ri

funkybeeatch14
03-10-2005, 06:51 PM
Who's coming to RI? Do youguys get alot of good bands down (up) there?

jerm267
03-10-2005, 06:56 PM
ri is a cultureless hell hole in the winter, but we get the newport jazz fest in the summer. srv played there a while back. the next good jam band in ri is assembly of dust, and ratdog who are comin on 4/20.

funkybeeatch14
03-10-2005, 06:58 PM
Ratdog are pretty good...way better than the The Dead (personal opinion). The show last August up here was less than great.

EDIT: The last Dead show, I mean. :upset:

Jam2Me
03-10-2005, 07:05 PM
ri is a cultureless hell hole in the winter, but we get the newport jazz fest in the summer. srv played there a while back. the next good jam band in ri is assembly of dust, and ratdog who are comin on 4/20.
I'm going to the Newport Folk Festival, Bela Fleck and the acoustic Trio are playing :thumb:

I've also seen the bands Something Corporate (at PC) and I saw Badfish at Lupo's (the Sublime band...you probly know them they're huge in RI).

Lupo's gets some good shows..I have some family in RI and my bro goes to college in RI so I'm actually there atleast once a month.

jerm267
03-10-2005, 07:35 PM
yeah badfish is big. theyre at lupos most every month. lupos is a nice place, im seeing dropkick murphys this tuesday, and we saw goldfinger about a week ago. goldfinger sucks and all imo, but a shows a show. mars volta is coming. anyone know what theyre all about? lotta people dig them

Jam2Me
03-10-2005, 07:37 PM
yeah badfish is big. theyre at lupos most every month. lupos is a nice place, im seeing dropkick murphys this tuesday, and we saw goldfinger about a week ago. goldfinger sucks and all imo, but a shows a show. mars volta is coming. anyone know what theyre all about? lotta people dig them
Yeah I'm just getting into them kinda.

True that, live music is live music, it's fun.

jpj
03-10-2005, 08:17 PM
The closest Jack comes to me is North Carolina...a whole freakin state away. I'm in West Virginia by the way. He comes to Philly but that's an eight hour drive all in itself.
I'm from WV too :thumb:

We so get ****ed over for shows :(

pegwedge
03-10-2005, 09:04 PM
I'm from WV too :thumb:

We so get ****ed over for shows :(

You speak the truth. We get nothing. Where are you from in West Virginia if you don't mind me asking?

KMidura
03-10-2005, 09:49 PM
I'm from WV too :thumb:

We so get ****ed over for shows :(
at least you don't live in Vermont, not to mention i was all set to make a road trip in april down to wanee, for a truly epic festival, and now it looks like that isn't happening, did i also mention that bonnaroo is on graduation day so that's not happening either

nectarjam
03-10-2005, 09:53 PM
Isn't phish from vermont?

Badmoon
03-10-2005, 10:02 PM
Yes, they are from Vermont.

jpj
03-11-2005, 02:19 PM
You speak the truth. We get nothing. Where are you from in West Virginia if you don't mind me asking?
Northern Panhandle, so I go to Pittsburgh for shows, but they really don't get much during winter.

funkybeeatch14
03-11-2005, 04:32 PM
Upstate New York is usually jampacked with shows in the summer and spring..but there hasnt been much going on lately, unless you count Loverboy as a good band.

6Stringer
03-11-2005, 11:46 PM
Gov't Mule is coming April 13th and Los Lonely Boys are playing at the end of April here, yay! I'm going to both shows.

pegwedge
03-11-2005, 11:54 PM
Northern Panhandle, so I go to Pittsburgh for shows, but they really don't get much during winter.

You're lucky. I'm stuck right in the middle of the state. Atleast until this fall when I get to start at Fairmont State. :thumb: I can't wait. An hour away from Pittsburgh will be nice.

jpj
03-12-2005, 02:29 PM
What's a good Deep Banana Blackout album?

jerm267
03-12-2005, 03:30 PM
dunno if it counts for jam but could someone point me in the direction of a good g love album?

jpj
03-14-2005, 02:53 PM
I got Rusted Root-When I Woke :)

Broken Arrow
03-14-2005, 03:01 PM
I got Rusted Root-When I Woke :)
I've only heard that one song that Badmoon sent me a really long time ago.

jpj
03-14-2005, 03:19 PM
I've only heard that one song that Badmoon sent me a really long time ago.
Which song? Did you like it? Would you like to hear more?

Badmoon
03-14-2005, 04:05 PM
^Calm down you :p

"Rain" > "Send me on my Way"

Jam2Me
03-14-2005, 04:58 PM
dunno if it counts for jam but could someone point me in the direction of a good g love album?
Ironic you should say that, I got Hustle today, AMAZING :thumb:
It's on Brushire Records and Jack Johnson is on a song, it's such a good CD, when you get it make sure the CD clerk gives you a copy of the Bonus Tracks, they're in a separate package.

I'd also reccomend his s/t, and 'Yeah It's That Easy'

Hustle is without The Special Sauce so it's slightly different, but it is great.

Check out Jack Johnson's soundtrack to Thicker Than Water if you like G. Love, he has some awesome songs on that album.


EDIT:

This Canadian band Throwback I've been listening to lately is really cool:
http://www.throwbackonline.com/v2/
They have songs on their site playing, good quality.

...and JPJ, Deep Banana Blackout had a show near me recently but I didn't go. I guess I should've but something important must've stopped me, what songs do you like by them?

funkybeeatch14
03-14-2005, 05:40 PM
Donna the Bufallo are coming to a local venue near me...yall should check them out. Theyre kind of like a blues/roots band.

jpj
03-14-2005, 07:00 PM
^Calm down you :p

"Rain" > "Send me on my Way"
Ecstasy > all the other songs on that album

Dark Star Orchestra and Victor Wooten are coming to Pittsburgh. I hope I get to see one of them.

Jam2Me
03-14-2005, 07:19 PM
Go for the Dark Star Orchestra if you can only see one of those shows.

jpj
03-14-2005, 07:25 PM
On www.pollstar.com it says DSO is coming in April, but on their site it doesn't say anything about a Pittsburgh show. And it said Victor is coming in april, but his site says he's coming in June.

EDIT: Nevermind, their sites have it listed as Millvale, PA instead of Pittsburgh, which threw me off.

funkybeeatch14
03-14-2005, 07:57 PM
Vic Wootens coming to Albany on the 19th, but I have no money.*



*I spent it all on Live Phish albums and an acrylic bong.

Jam2Me
03-14-2005, 07:58 PM
On www.pollstar.com it says DSO is coming in April, but on their site it doesn't say anything about a Pittsburgh show. And it said Victor is coming in april, but his site says he's coming in June.

EDIT: Nevermind, their sites have it listed as Millvale, PA instead of Pittsburgh, which threw me off.
They are always trying to throw you off. Reefer paranoia.

Badmoon
03-14-2005, 09:39 PM
Ecstasy > all the other songs on that album

No.

jerm267
03-15-2005, 12:24 PM
anyone catch jack on snl?

jpj
03-15-2005, 03:08 PM
No.
Yes.

Jam2Me
03-15-2005, 03:12 PM
anyone catch jack on snl?
I did, :thumb:
He is probably the coolest person ever.

http://www.webstertheater.com/EVENTS_theater.htm

Check out the 31st, Rusted Root...and the 11th too Blue Floyd.

The Breakfast is coming back in April too.

pegwedge
03-15-2005, 03:44 PM
I saw Jack too. I'm glad they played Mudfootball. :)

KMidura
03-15-2005, 04:15 PM
Isn't phish from vermont?
yes they are, but northern vt is 4 hrs away, and by the time i got a car they had retired

little late responding but I took a trip out to utah

funkybeeatch14
03-15-2005, 05:21 PM
yes they are, but northern vt is 4 hrs away, and by the time i got a car they had retired

little late responding but I took a trip out to utah


My uncle's best friend went to school and is good friends with Fishman, at the last show in New York on 6-20, he broke down in tears when they played Good Times, Bad Times. For thouse of you who dont know, Phish played that song at the Pepsi Arena (Albany, NY) every time at the end of the first set. It just shows you how many people a band like Phish can touch.

e p
03-16-2005, 10:16 PM
Me and two other friends are going to jam soon. So far we have a couple covers set aside just to get used to playing together..they are:

Funky Bitch
Weekeapaug Groove
Mike's Song
Tweezer
Black Magic Woman
Kidney in a Cooler
Santeria
Maybe some DMB song

Im looking foward to it. (I play bass ,btw)

e p
03-16-2005, 10:31 PM
I just got SCI Canrival '99 and it is superb. I love the jazz covers they did.

Badmoon
03-16-2005, 11:47 PM
I really love their rendition of "I Know You Rider".

And great avatar E p, I just bought Parliament's - Mothership Connection :thumb:

jpj
03-17-2005, 02:10 PM
It looks like I'm going to see Wooten, which should be really awesome but I really wanted to see DSO. My dad said he didn't want to see a Dead cover band because he saw the real Dead, but I don't know what the hell kinda reason that is.

Jaded
03-17-2005, 03:45 PM
Anybody see South Park last night? They made fun of Hippie Jam Festivals.

jpj
03-17-2005, 03:46 PM
Yea, I saw it. I actually liked the song they were playing at the festival :(

jerm267
03-17-2005, 04:49 PM
Anybody see South Park last night? They made fun of Hippie Jam Festivals.


that was awesome. phish was playin at one point, or at least i assumed so by the singer/guitarist having shaggy red hair. then they played raining blood to get rid of all the hippies. wicked funny

Jaded
03-17-2005, 05:51 PM
"This music is so...angry. Let's quit this angry scene."

Wilson
03-18-2005, 11:14 AM
yea the Phish animations were pretty good. They made Fishman with Viking cap and all

Jam2Me
03-18-2005, 02:48 PM
I'm ****ing ecstatic right now, check out the May 29th and 30th dates. I'm so stoked, Donna the Buffalo is playing a week before too.

http://www.toadsplace.com/calendar

jpj
03-19-2005, 03:36 PM
I got the Golden Road today for $70 :D

pegwedge
03-20-2005, 12:44 AM
Tell me if I'm making a fool out of myself but is that the big Dead boxset?

jpj
03-20-2005, 04:14 PM
Yes, It's 65-73 then there's Beyond Description is 74-something else.

6Stringer
03-20-2005, 06:03 PM
I got the Golden Road today for $70 :D

Grrr... I got Warts & All 4 - moe. today and a moe. shirt :D

jpj
03-20-2005, 06:08 PM
I need to get Warts and All 4.

Jam2Me
03-20-2005, 08:46 PM
All I have is No Doy, I'm scared to get something else after starting out with their best album.

jpj
03-20-2005, 08:50 PM
All I have is No Doy, I'm scared to get something else after starting out with their best album.
Get any out of the Warts and All series. You definitely won't be dissappointed.

KMidura
03-21-2005, 06:29 PM
It looks like I'm going to see Wooten, which should be really awesome but I really wanted to see DSO. My dad said he didn't want to see a Dead cover band because he saw the real Dead, but I don't know what the hell kinda reason that is.
DSO is insane, close your eyes and you'd think it was Jerry and Bob onstage. The first time I went, I went because my best friends' dad plays the Bob Weir role, I assumed they would suck. Far from it. I have since gone to several more, and even downloaded songs, and when compared to my GD recordings, they fair pretty well. I saw the The Dead this summer, and I would much rather see DSO (backstage passes and free tickets also play into that decision)

jpj
03-21-2005, 06:51 PM
I was bummed out when my dad said that he didn't want to go :( But I still get to see Victor Wooten :)

e p
03-21-2005, 07:18 PM
I was bummed out when my dad said that he didn't want to go :( But I still get to see Victor Wooten :)


Me too. In Chicago.

Wheres yours? Oh, and I hear it's insane because he has his brothers along.

jpj
03-21-2005, 07:43 PM
In Pittsburgh at Mr. Smalls Theatre, same place DSO was gonna be.

pegwedge
03-22-2005, 04:44 PM
Anyone seen Medeski Martin and Wood? I went to a free concert last year in Pittsburgh and I must say it was 2 and half hours of some of the best nonstop free form jazz.

Jam2Me
03-22-2005, 04:56 PM
Anyone seen Medeski Martin and Wood? I went to a free concert last year in Pittsburgh and I must say it was 2 and half hours of some of the best nonstop free form jazz.
I saw them early this year, they really put on a good show, I bought their CD afterwards I like it alot Friday Afternoon in the Universe.

jpj
03-22-2005, 05:41 PM
Anyone seen Medeski Martin and Wood? I went to a free concert last year in Pittsburgh and I must say it was 2 and half hours of some of the best nonstop free form jazz.
They had a free show in Pittsburgh :eek:? That would've been before I even knew about them anyway. Rusted Root had a free show on New Year's Eve, but I couldn't go :(

pegwedge
03-23-2005, 12:15 AM
Yeah it was a great show. I had only listened to them for about 3 months before going and seeing them. It was worth getting stuck in a huge traffic jam right outside of Pittsburgh due to construction. Oh I almost forgot, me and some friends got to meet them. We kind of ambushed them as they walked to their bus about 10 minutes after the concert ended. No one else was around so we got pictures with them, well John Medeski and Chris Wood...which unfortunately I don't have a copy of. They seemed to be pretty cool guys. I got to meet Billy Martin seperately but he seemed kinda tired and pissed. He did just get done playing 2 and a half hours straight though. It was a pretty cool experience in all though. I'll never forget it. :thumb:

Jam2Me
03-23-2005, 04:54 PM
http://www.jambase.com/festivals/index.asp?regionID=6

Check out your region on this site for festivals.

jpj
03-23-2005, 06:50 PM
http://www.jambase.com/festivals/index.asp?regionID=6

Check out your region on this site for festivals.
I got that e-mail, no festivals :( But I know Pittsburgh has a blues festival and The Edgar Winter Band is gonna be there. Also, Wheeling, WV has a blues festival and The Levon Helm Band is gonna be there. So I might try to go to those.

pegwedge
03-23-2005, 09:37 PM
When's the Wheeling festival?

e p
03-23-2005, 09:49 PM
I might be going to that festival in Lawrence Kansas, as well as summer camp in Illinois with moe. and Keller (and more)

jpj
03-24-2005, 04:46 PM
When's the Wheeling festival?
http://www.heritagemusicfest.com/

jpj
03-24-2005, 09:10 PM
Kings of Leon
DJ Krush
RJD2
Assembly of Dust
Blue Merle
Amos Lee

^^^more bands that will be at Bonaroo

Kingadamx
03-24-2005, 10:29 PM
I was bummed out when my dad said that he didn't want to go :( But I still get to see Victor Wooten :)
Yeah, I might go see Victor Wooten in Philadelphia. It should be a good show, Wooten is a nasty bassist.

jpj
03-24-2005, 10:33 PM
The Black Crowes are coming here, but I'm gonna be in Orlando :(

Black Crowes > Orlando

Jam2Me
03-25-2005, 10:43 AM
I was planning on seeing Addison Groove Project on April 8th...but I have prom that day :\

May will make up for it, Donna the Buffalo then Dark Star Orchestra plays two nights in a row, although I'm only going to one of the shows.

Anyone have any jam band t-shirts?

All I've got is Allman Brothers Band, Phish coventry tie dye, and a Gov't Mule tour shirt.

keep on phishin'
03-25-2005, 11:39 AM
I have 2 phish shirts, a grateful dead, and 2 bonnarroo shirts.

Could anyone reccomend me some more material by Jimmy Herring and any of his projects, I just listened to Blue Light Rain and it is amazing how great he is. Any help woudl be appreciated.

Badmoon
03-25-2005, 11:55 AM
Jimmy had Played With
---------------------------
Solo
Phil Lesh & Friends
The Dead
(Col. Bruce Hampton &) The Aquarium Rescue Unit
Frogwings
Project Z
Jazz is Dead
etc

Recommend Albums
------------------------
Phil Lesh & Friends - There & Back Again -Though Warren is the dominant player (not skill wise), I'm never up set with the album because of that. I do not love the album for its technical instrumental work. Everything jells, is upbeat, and massively satisfying.

Project Z - s/t - Here is an album that will show the technical ability that both Jimmy Herring and Jeff Sipe with hold. The album is much different compared to any other project Herring participated in. It is also instrumental.

Jazz is Dead - Laughing Water - My favorite of the two J.I.D. albums I have heard. It usually gets the lowest rating, but I do not see why. It lacks Billy Cobham, but makes up for it with the addition of Jeff Sipe and Rod Morgenstein. This is the album that really got me into Jimmy Herring.


Col. Bruce Hampton & The Aquarium Rescue Unit - Mirrors of Embarrassment - My cousin owns this album and I love it. That groups ability to mix Jazz, Blues, Bluegrass and a variety of other genres is amazing. Col. Bruce leads the album great, and each members' technical ability is fantastic. Oteil Burbridge, Matt Mundy (Amazing), Jeff Sipe, Jimmy Herring, Col. Bruce Hampton; awesome.


I am so glad you are getting into him. I have been trying to show people his skill and the fabulous bands he plays with, but they just ignore him. His only fans I know (Other than you, now) are my guitar teacher and I.

Jam2Me
03-25-2005, 01:09 PM
I have 2 phish shirts, a grateful dead, and 2 bonnarroo shirts.

Could anyone reccomend me some more material by Jimmy Herring and any of his projects, I just listened to Blue Light Rain and it is amazing how great he is. Any help woudl be appreciated.
Have you been to both Bonnaroos so far?

pegwedge
03-25-2005, 01:26 PM
Anyone have any jam band t-shirts?


The only jam shirts I have are a moe. shirt and a Grateful Dead shirt. But almost all of my wardrobe is a band shirt. If it's not plain it has some band on it. I am planning on ordering another Dead shirt and a Phish shirt here soon.

keep on phishin'
03-25-2005, 02:05 PM
Have you been to both Bonnaroos so far?

No but I got two different t shirts at last years Bonnaroo.

And thanks tons Badmoon.

jpj
03-25-2005, 02:17 PM
I have a Deja Voodoo Tour shirt and a moe. hoodie.

I wanna go to Bonnaroo :(

pegwedge
03-25-2005, 04:01 PM
I wanna go to Bonnaroo :(

Me too. Real bad.

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-27-2005, 04:30 PM
I'm goin to Bonnaroo. Hehehe.

I also went to an an Allman Brothers Band concert last Sat. at the Beacon Theater in NY. All I can say is that they melted my face. Incredible.

Is anyone going to either Trey Anastasio concerts in NY?

jpj
03-27-2005, 05:12 PM
I want to move to New York so bad, so many concerts.

keep on phishin'
03-27-2005, 05:18 PM
I only get about 2 good concerts a year, down here in Tennessee.

keep on phishin'
03-27-2005, 05:52 PM
Just ordered a bunch of albums from Amazon:

Jazz Is Dead - Great Sky River
Project Z - Project Z
Phil Lesh and Friends - There and Back Again
Aquarium Rescue Unit - Mirrors of Embarassment
Moe. - Tin Cans and Tire
Medeski Martin and Wood - Friday Afternoon In the Universe
Eric Johnson - Ah Via Musicom

Pretty good figuring the total was only $53. I'm especially excited about hearing those Jimmy Herring albums. :)

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-27-2005, 07:07 PM
Aquarium Rescue Unit is a hot band. Enjoy that. The whole list looks pretty good to me.

Yeah NY has a nice music scene...if any of you ever want tapes from NYC shows just holler at me.

keep on phishin'
03-27-2005, 08:09 PM
What NYC shows do you have tapes of?

Badmoon
03-27-2005, 08:28 PM
Just ordered a bunch of albums from Amazon:

Jazz Is Dead - Great Sky River
Project Z - Project Z
Phil Lesh and Friends - There and Back Again
Aquarium Rescue Unit - Mirrors of Embarassment
Moe. - Tin Cans and Tire
Medeski Martin and Wood - Friday Afternoon In the Universe
Eric Johnson - Ah Via Musicom

Pretty good figuring the total was only $53. I'm especially excited about hearing those Jimmy Herring albums. :)


I'm glad you listened to some of my suggestions.

Jam2Me
03-27-2005, 08:33 PM
Phil Lesh and Friends - There and Back Again

Medeski Martin and Wood - Friday Afternoon In the Universe

Pretty good figuring the total was only $53. I'm especially excited about hearing those Jimmy Herring albums. :)


I have the MMW album, that's my favorite stuff by them...Badmoon highly reccomends that Phil one so I'm sure that's really good.

I'm so stoked right now for summer, I found out Lynyrd Skynyrd and Allman Bros. were touring together, I now found out I'm going to two of their shows, one in RI and one in CT...and then between those dates I'm going to see Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers with the Black Crowes which should be unbelievably good. And all that is after Bonnaroo.
Connecticut has been surprising the hell out of me lately, so many great artists are coming here either before or after they all play at New York since its only an hour drive away.


So this Jimmy Herring guy is good, aye? Any reccomendations of a couple songs I can d/l?

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-27-2005, 08:41 PM
Any shows from the NY area are fairly accesable to me...One of my good friends is a taper, and goes to NYU, so besides school, live music is his life. He makes it to all the hot shows pretty much. I know for a fact he's got some nice Benevento Russo Duo, MMW, and the whole Allman Bros. Run at the Beacon from this year.

Badmoon
03-27-2005, 08:41 PM
If Jerry Garcia hadn't been my favorite guitarist, it would be Jimmy Herring. He is just insane; He's got the technical ability of virtuoso but is a Rock guitarist who plays around with Fusion a lot.

Jazz is Dead - Eyes of the World

^Download if you can. Jimmy's skill is displayed great in that cover.

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-27-2005, 08:45 PM
Any of you guys like Keller Williams? He's just freakin' awesome. Not for everyone, but awesome. Check him out. He's also a trip to catch live.

Badmoon
03-27-2005, 08:47 PM
Keller Williams completely ripped off Michael Hedges's guitar style. I guess you could just say he was influenced by Hedges, but it still sets him back a bit in my book.

keep on phishin'
03-27-2005, 08:49 PM
Out of the one album I have (Blue Light Rain) my favorites on there would definitely be "Crazy Fingers" and "Dark Star".

jpj
03-27-2005, 10:25 PM
and then between those dates I'm going to see Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers with the Black Crowes which should be unbelievably good.
I could be going to that too, but I'm going to ****in' Florida that day :( Steve Miller and the upcoming Victor Wooten show could make up for it, though.

Badmoon
03-28-2005, 08:56 AM
^You don't deserve that trip to Florida :angry:

Ungrateful bastard :angry:

Jam2Me
03-28-2005, 10:32 AM
I'm going to Disney in mid June :( I don't like Florida past April or before September.

I downloaded "Eyes of the World" really good stuff.

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-28-2005, 10:35 AM
I'd take Miller and Wooten over Petty and the Black Crowes any day of the week. But it stinks that you had the opportunity to go to the other ones as well. :upset:

jpj
03-28-2005, 11:05 AM
I'd take Miller and Wooten over Petty and the Black Crowes any day of the week. But it stinks that you had the opportunity to go to the other ones as well. :upset:
Yea, if I had to choose I'd definitely take Miller and Wooten. I'd still like to see the Crowes.

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-28-2005, 12:39 PM
Are they Mr. Crowe's Garden now?

jpj
03-28-2005, 12:43 PM
Are they Mr. Crowe's Garden now?
Um, not to my knowledge.

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-28-2005, 12:48 PM
http://www.glidemagazine.com/news1836.html\

Weird, very weird.

jpj
03-28-2005, 12:54 PM
http://www.glidemagazine.com/news1836.html\

Weird, very weird.
Weird, indeed. On the site where I saw the date it said The Black Crowes.

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-28-2005, 01:50 PM
I wonder what in the hell they're doin?

Jam2Me
03-28-2005, 03:04 PM
Holy f*cking ****, Mr Crowes Garden came to Toads Place and I said to myself, I wonder who they are, searched them and there was no info.....So I pretty much missed the Black Crowes.

jpj
03-28-2005, 03:30 PM
Holy f*cking ****, Mr Crowes Garden came to Toads Place and I said to myself, I wonder who they are, searched them and there was no info.....So I pretty much missed the Black Crowes.
That sucks man, I feel for you.

6Stringer
03-28-2005, 03:35 PM
I just bought quite possibly the greatest Grateful Dead CD ever. I bought the Closing of Winterland December 31, 1978 4 CDs of non-stop Grateful Dead action.

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-28-2005, 03:59 PM
Yeah man, that's a ****in bummer!

6Stringer
03-28-2005, 04:15 PM
I only get about 2 good concerts a year, down here in Tennessee.

Where in TN? Cause where I'm at I get some pretty good ones.

johnbro23
03-28-2005, 04:18 PM
Would DMB be considered a "jam band"?

keep on phishin'
03-28-2005, 04:22 PM
Franklin, a little south of Nashville

You?

KMidura
03-28-2005, 04:26 PM
I just bought quite possibly the greatest Grateful Dead CD ever. I bought the Closing of Winterland December 31, 1978 4 CDs of non-stop Grateful Dead action.
The DVD is insane as well, it has played on PBS occasionally

Jam2Me
03-28-2005, 04:32 PM
Would DMB be considered a "jam band"?
Yeah we mostly consider them a jam band.

moghes69
03-28-2005, 05:41 PM
i'm in a jam band, i was wondering if you guys could give us a listen and give some pointers, what you like, don't like etc... http://www.purevolume.com/madagom there are a bunch of messups and stuff but that was mostly because it was recorded at our first concert ever.

JPage54
03-28-2005, 05:50 PM
Dude, that was awesome. Not quite as long as most jam songs should be but that was rockin just the same. Major props to the organ solo. :thumb: Keep up the goodwork theres alot of ****ty bands on purevolume.

Are those original TubeScreamers or are they reissue? Also how did the guitarist get that rad Orange head?

JPage54
03-28-2005, 05:59 PM
there are a bunch of messups and stuff but that was mostly because it was recorded at our first concert ever.
Yeah, you guys need to get some mics, and practice...A Lot.

moghes69
03-28-2005, 06:29 PM
Dude, that was awesome. Not quite as long as most jam songs should be but that was rockin just the same. Major props to the organ solo. :thumb: Keep up the goodwork theres alot of ****ty bands on purevolume.

Are those original TubeScreamers or are they reissue? Also how did the guitarist get that rad Orange head?

i don't know about the guitarists equipment, he has so many pedals that i didn't even bother asking about any of them, and i don't know about the head. we were all really nervous so we rushed a bunch of our songs, and didn't go into spontaneous jams a lot because the crowd was all of the punk/emo/######## kids and we didn't really know how the crowd would react to our style.

moghes69
03-28-2005, 06:31 PM
and plus, the recordings suck because they are the audio tracks ripped from a video we took of our show

JPage54
03-28-2005, 08:01 PM
Oh I see. Not such a good idea. Are you the drummer then?

6Stringer
03-28-2005, 10:36 PM
Franklin, a little south of Nashville

You?

Oh, Knoxville.

moghes69
03-29-2005, 03:29 PM
Oh I see. Not such a good idea. Are you the drummer then?
no, im the bassist

jpj
03-29-2005, 08:30 PM
Bah! On Skynyrd's website it says more LS/ABB dates will be announced. I'm really anxious to see if they're coming here, the suspense is killing me! :(

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-29-2005, 10:00 PM
I'd be surprised if they didn't hit Tennessee. Btw Moghes, nice work, but I think it's time to move up to a fiver hmm? :thumb:

I'm a bassist too.

pegwedge
03-29-2005, 11:15 PM
Wow. I'm a bassist too. Lots of jamming bassists around here. Which is a very good thing.

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-30-2005, 01:30 PM
What kind of bass(es) do you guys have. Modulus Q5 and Warwick 'Vette 5 here.

pegwedge
03-30-2005, 03:40 PM
I don't own anything very expensive. I have a Brice Bubinga six-stringer, Brice violin copy, and an SX Jazz Bass (which I just bought Rotosound strings for and I must say...wowzers. I don't think I'll ever buy another brand for it.) I have a nice big Fender Bassman combo too.

moghes69
03-30-2005, 04:21 PM
i have a schecter stilleto elite, and i have a modded hartke sb-15 that i plan to defret, i would move up to a five, but i don't exactly have any money for one and i just recently bought my schecter, but in time i will probably get a 5er

pegwedge
03-30-2005, 04:30 PM
Oh man. The music shop here in town has a Stilleto Elite. I just like to stand there and look at it. He doesn't like people who don't aren't serious about buying instruments playing them.

moghes69
03-31-2005, 04:46 PM
u should go play it any way it's deffinately worth getting yelled at by that guy to have a chance to play one

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-31-2005, 05:03 PM
Yes, try playing it, the worst he can do is tell you to stop and put it back. When I go to music stores I consider anything without a 'do not touch' sign fair game :lol:

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-31-2005, 05:32 PM
What are the most memorable concerts you guys have ever been to?

Jam2Me
03-31-2005, 05:47 PM
Phish, Gov't Mule, Allman Brothers Band, and the Jazz Mandolin Project.

This Summer: Skynyrd and Allmans, Black Crowes and Petty, Bonnaroo, Bela Fleck and the Acoustic Trio, and Jack Johnson.

e p
03-31-2005, 06:20 PM
Acoustic Planet Trio; Flecktones, Yonder MSB, and Keller Williams together for 6 hours of fun.

SplitOpenAndMelt
03-31-2005, 07:11 PM
IT, Keller Williams incident, Phish at Camden last year, and every time I see the Allmans.

Badmoon
03-31-2005, 08:25 PM
I just bought quite possibly the greatest Grateful Dead CD ever. I bought the Closing of Winterland December 31, 1978 4 CDs of non-stop Grateful Dead action.

It is pretty good. I wouldn't necessarily rate it high amongst other live Grateful Dead albums, but it is pretty good none the less.

adds
04-01-2005, 11:39 AM
hey mi band are a jazz meets funk meets rock meets blues meets hip hop jam band, so i was wondering if u could give us some feedback on our tracks on www.purevolume.com/skinlessfinger and www.myspace.com/skinlessfinger - bear in mind these were recorded with a video camera and it was all completely improvised (except for the covers, although all apart from the 2 riffs from chameleon were improv'd on). any comments would b greatly appreciated, and if they could be directed to skinlessfinger@hotmail.com (corny name i know lol) then that'd b even better.

anyways, cheers for listenin 2 my shameless self promotion, we just need 2 know wot people think of our music really! :thumb:

moghes69
04-01-2005, 02:42 PM
i posted my band a little bit back, don't get your hopes up on getting a lot of feedback, only a couple of people said anything about us... http://www.purevolume.com/madagom just thought i'd post it again for the heck of it

jpj
04-01-2005, 04:35 PM
i posted my band a little bit back, don't get your hopes up on getting a lot of feedback, only a couple of people said anything about us... http://www.purevolume.com/madagom just thought i'd post it again for the heck of it
I listened to your band when you first posted it, and I really liked it. Probably the best song I've ever heard by someone on mx.

moghes69
04-01-2005, 04:40 PM
I listened to your band when you first posted it, and I really liked it. Probably the best song I've ever heard by someone on mx.
wow, im flattered. i didn't mean what i said in an offensive way or aything, but thanks

jpj
04-01-2005, 05:12 PM
wow, im flattered. i didn't mean what i said in an offensive way or aything, but thanks
None taken, and you're welcome.

So Robert Randolph is opening for DMB when they come here and Jurassic 5 is opening the first day, but tickets kinda expensive considering I don't really like DMB.

Jam2Me
04-01-2005, 05:27 PM
Is Randolph opening all summer for DMB? That would make me wanna go othe than the copious amounts of hot girls and pot.

jpj
04-01-2005, 05:28 PM
Is Randolph opening all summer for DMB? That would make me wanna go othe than the copious amounts of hot girls and pot.
I couldn't tell you.

pegwedge
04-01-2005, 11:23 PM
Anyone planning on going to the Wakarusa festival? They have a pretty decent lineup. It may be a thirteen hour drive but I think I may go just for the hell of it. I don't have anything better to do.

adds
04-02-2005, 11:16 AM
Is Randolph opening all summer for DMB? That would make me wanna go othe than the copious amounts of hot girls and pot.

seen robert randolph supportin 4 eric clapton in manchester last year :cool: possibly the greatest gig i've seen!

Jam2Me
04-02-2005, 12:10 PM
Anyone planning on going to the Wakarusa festival? They have a pretty decent lineup. It may be a thirteen hour drive but I think I may go just for the hell of it. I don't have anything better to do.
That has a sick line up, so does the New Orleans Jazz Fest.

JPage54
04-03-2005, 03:44 PM
Any Minnesotans here, or outta staters looking into the 10,000 Lakes Festival?

JPage54
04-04-2005, 05:20 PM
Bump

pegwedge
04-04-2005, 05:32 PM
I actually thought about going to that before I found Wakarusa. It a bit of a long drive to Minnesota. Not that 13 hours is a long drive it just beats 19 hours. :thumb: It looks really good though. I'd like to see Trey.

Jam2Me
04-04-2005, 06:18 PM
It may be impossible for the 10,000 Lakes Festival to top their 2004 set list...that looked like such a sick show last year but I live absolutely no where near there so :(...

I am going to see The Samples soon, I'm not too familiar with them but they play a good festivals and tours so I'm sure they're sick.

Badmoon
04-04-2005, 09:25 PM
The Samples...they are easily one of the worst Jam Bands I've heard. But maybe it's just their recorded stuff.

e p
04-04-2005, 11:34 PM
This is bass related..but has anyone noticed the trend in Jam Bassists and Modulus.

To name a few...Phil Lesh, Mike Gordon, Oteil Burbidge,etc.

pegwedge
04-05-2005, 10:49 AM
Yes. I have noticed that. They must be pretty versatile. I've never played one personally.

SplitOpenAndMelt
04-05-2005, 01:46 PM
Yea, I own one. Quantum 5 string like Cactus. It's not really a trend....it's a known fact that Modulus's are just about the most versatile, best sounding, best quality basses made! The sound really just blows me the hell away. I think Phil Lesh played the first one in the 70's, and from then on it has been the choice of some of the best bassists in the world, Jam bands or not. But, jam band members tend to be more musically talented than musicians from other genres...a thank you very much ;)