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Ganondorf
08-29-2005, 11:39 AM
Yep, that's true, for Test cricket from England's perpesctive, The Ashes is probably the most important and exciting, just as I'm sure India vs Pakistan is between those two nations. It does seem pretty ignorant still though, on the media's behalf.

And, The Ashes is only exciting this time, before it was basically Aussies embarrasing England, now it's an actual good competition for everyone, ENG, AUS or neutrals can enjoy. So therefore it's exciting, yes, but only an equivalent to the world cup for England and probably Australia, not for the whole ofthe world. Which is what a 'world cup' should be about.

Ganondorf
08-29-2005, 11:41 AM
In other news, India bowl Zimbabwe all out for 65 runs, in less than half the overs on offer. We rule, oh wait it's only Zimbabwe. Haha.

Untitled
08-29-2005, 12:10 PM
In other news, India bowl Zimbabwe all out for 65 runs, in less than half the overs on offer. We rule, oh wait it's only Zimbabwe. Haha.
Thats like bell getting his 1st test match centry agianst bangladesh, or whoever the hell it is, im rubbish at remembering these stats.

Ganondorf
08-29-2005, 12:26 PM
Yeah, I hope Bagladesh become bigger players in the ODI scene tho, should be good

Lord Abortion
08-29-2005, 07:57 PM
Key is no fatter than strauss is...I bet they both went to public schools, played alot of rugby too and spent time on farms as youngsters

Ganondorf
08-30-2005, 03:13 AM
Yeah, rich kids :rolleyes:

Drop The Baby
08-30-2005, 05:53 AM
Key is no fatter than strauss is...I bet they both went to public schools, played alot of rugby too and spent time on farms as youngsters

Yeah but there's a difference between being fat and athletic. Strauss is not 'fat' and especially not to the extent that it would hinder his performances. Just look at that catch for proof

RCVA
08-30-2005, 06:08 AM
Haha. These matches are getting better and better.

Key's OK. I prefer Bell though.

Lord Abortion
08-30-2005, 09:57 AM
Yeah but there's a difference between being fat and athletic. Strauss is not 'fat' and especially not to the extent that it would hinder his performances. Just look at that catch for proof
nah, I'm just saying he has a bit of a chubby face :lol:

Untitled
08-30-2005, 03:05 PM
Argh, does anyone know how to bowl off spin, i can bowl leg spin, not very well but i can get the ball moving a bit, and i dont seem to be able to get the right wrist action for the off spin.

Actully, i dunno if i can bowl offspin or leg, is leg spin where the spin is going left to right and when the ball pitches it goes to the left. Kinda like wharne. Ive confused myself now.

After the ashes im desperate to rejoin a team, but im scared ill be no good anymore, should i try out at a team or something?

Ganondorf
08-30-2005, 03:18 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about re-joining my old team aswell. But I also think I'll be crap, oh well.

Trivia: Which team, until this recent Ashes team, was the one most widely thought the only one who could give the Aussies a run for their money?

Hint: They beat the Aussies in their own back yard

Untitled
08-30-2005, 03:28 PM
Answer - Proberly india or somewhere i dunno.

I know my local team is good, well the 1st team obviously i wouldnt play for them, they just won a major local trophie recently so i dunno if im good enough for them. I know somebody whos better then me who plays on the 3rds.

Ganondorf
08-31-2005, 02:49 AM
Yep, plus our ODI team is the most unpredictable thing ever :(

Untitled
08-31-2005, 06:43 AM
If you want to, go for it. :) You've got to start somewhere, right? Leg spin is when, if you're bowling to a right handed batsmen the ball spins from your right in the left direction, in other words across the wicket when the starting point is the legs of the batsman? Does that help.

I thaught it was that, but then i thaught when bowling to a legspin it, when it pitches it goes towards the offstump, so i thaught it was off spin, so i got all confused. :thumb: I can bowl that a bit, not off spin, maybe i should just stick with the one.

I might wait till the new season to join a team, or maybe even see if my college has a team.

Ganondorf
08-31-2005, 09:11 AM
Meh, if I'm bowling, I just go for all out pace

<-- Next Shoaib Akthar/Bret Lee ;)

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 09:26 AM
Meh, if I'm bowling, I just go for all out pace

<-- Next Shoaib Akthar/Bret Lee ;)
I can see you being an asset to the Indian side... :p

Ganondorf
08-31-2005, 09:29 AM
I'd play for England, a lot easier to get in the side :p

RCVA
08-31-2005, 11:15 AM
Go play for Bangledesh.

RCVA
08-31-2005, 11:16 AM
Argh, does anyone know how to bowl off spin, i can bowl leg spin, not very well but i can get the ball moving a bit, and i dont seem to be able to get the right wrist action for the off spin.

Actully, i dunno if i can bowl offspin or leg, is leg spin where the spin is going left to right and when the ball pitches it goes to the left. Kinda like wharne. Ive confused myself now.

I can bowl a bit of leg spin. I'm more of a pace bowler though. :cool:

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 11:51 AM
I'd play for England, a lot easier to get in the side :p
well. Ian Bell managed it...

Untitled
08-31-2005, 01:12 PM
I can bowl a bit of leg spin. I'm more of a pace bowler though. :cool:
I used to be a pace bowler for my old team, but i prefer spin bowling, i havnt ever done it with a team, i can get a bit of seem movement, obviously if i joined a team i could proberly get decent at it, but you know, i could always resort back to seem.

Ganondorf
08-31-2005, 01:41 PM
Isn't it near the end of the cricket 'season' in England now?

Untitled
08-31-2005, 01:51 PM
Im guessing so, isnt the season like spring/summer and maybe a bit of autuum. Im guess it cant be played in winter 'cause of snow and rian and stuff.

Ganondorf
08-31-2005, 03:13 PM
Yeah, you might as well wait till next season to play then

Ganondorf
09-01-2005, 03:07 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4196466.stm

Statements like this seem a bit premature....

RCVA
09-01-2005, 04:39 AM
Hahahaha.

They make it seem like Hoggard is our best batsman.

Angry Balled Fists!
09-01-2005, 04:43 AM
Gay, i thought we were playing them today...

Untitled
09-01-2005, 05:22 AM
Next week...

But it is the C&G cup final on saterday, i think, or sunday.

Ganondorf
09-01-2005, 05:51 AM
Tail-end hero Matthew Hoggard believes England are close to taking over from Australia as the dominant team in cricket over the next decade.

Gawd, Australia lose (probably) one series, and peopel think they're somehow on the fall? FFS, it's only because Australia have set such high standards people think that they're not going to be dominant anymore, when in reality even the best teams are allowed to lose on the odd ocassion, especially away from home.

Lord Abortion
09-01-2005, 06:08 AM
Yes, although everything has to start somewhere, and coupled with the immanent retirement of their best players...It could happen

Liberi Fatali
09-01-2005, 06:18 AM
Haha I find it hilarious how Ricky Ponting is bad mouthing the English team for not playing in interest of the spirit of the game, and accusing them of bending the rules.

I remember a few years back when McGrath and the Aussies purposefully bowled wides in the last few balls in a ODI against New Zealand so that New Zealand could not win. Not to mention the fact that the Aussies throw more slander at the other teams than all the other teams combined.

Ponting really isn't helping his team out.

Untitled
09-01-2005, 08:20 AM
i just love how ponting got realy pissed off because he got run out by a sub. england arnt realy twisting the rules as such, as long as the players are on before the 8 minutes, then there fine. But after that, i think england did it more to piss off the aussies, i know they was saying that in the commentry box.

I cant wait till next thursday, shame im in college for 2, pos 3 of the days, but i can watch the end/highlights.

RCVA
09-01-2005, 01:30 PM
I think that it's nice that Australia can be challenged but i believe that they will probably continue being the best team in the world. People forget how good their reserves are.

Ganondorf
09-01-2005, 02:44 PM
Haha I find it hilarious how Ricky Ponting is bad mouthing the English team for not playing in interest of the spirit of the game, and accusing them of bending the rules.

I remember a few years back when McGrath and the Aussies purposefully bowled wides in the last few balls in a ODI against New Zealand so that New Zealand could not win. Not to mention the fact that the Aussies throw more slander at the other teams than all the other teams combined.

Ponting really isn't helping his team out.

I also think NZ had to hit a 4 or 6 of a last ball sometime to win, and they bowled under arm which wasn't against the rules at the time :lol:

Also, RCVA is right, spinners like Stuart McGill would probably walk into any side other than Australia and Sri Lanka, but because Warne is there he hasn't got a chance.

And, the best game ever http://www.stickcricket.com

Untitled
09-01-2005, 03:42 PM
Does anyone else call a Cricket ball a Corky, aparently Dahn dosnt, but you know, i do.

Liberi Fatali
09-01-2005, 11:44 PM
I also think NZ had to hit a 4 or 6 of a last ball sometime to win, and they bowled under arm which wasn't against the rules at the time :lol:

Yeah back in '91 I think it was, we'll never let that down. Bloody Aussies. :mad:

Ganondorf
09-02-2005, 03:50 AM
Does anyone else call a Cricket ball a Corky, aparently Dahn dosnt, but you know, i do.

It's Dhan, you fool ;)

RCVA
09-02-2005, 04:15 AM
I also think NZ had to hit a 4 or 6 of a last ball sometime to win, and they bowled under arm which wasn't against the rules at the time :lol:

Also, RCVA is right, spinners like Stuart McGill would probably walk into any side other than Australia and Sri Lanka, but because Warne is there he hasn't got a chance.

And, the best game ever http://www.stickcricket.com
Shane Watson is amazing. ALso that game is ****ing awesome.

Ganondorf
09-02-2005, 04:23 AM
Yeah, I scored 85 with Sehwag :D

Ganondorf
09-02-2005, 05:08 AM
Hey Liberi, I have -702 rep for no reason, thr guys who negged me didn't even leave a message, so could you help me get back into positives by throwing some my way?

Liberi Fatali
09-02-2005, 05:28 AM
I talked to Jim and he arranged something. :)

Angry Balled Fists!
09-02-2005, 05:40 AM
Haha, maybe it's because you spend pages upon pages of arguing with James Dhan :p

Ganondorf
09-02-2005, 05:51 AM
Ah, shi- thanks man :)

Ganondorf
09-02-2005, 05:54 AM
omg, I'm crap and I still won :D

http://www.geocities.com/gummw0/stickcricket.JPG

Angry Balled Fists!
09-02-2005, 06:00 AM
WTF, how do you haev stars ?

RCVA
09-02-2005, 11:24 AM
omg, I'm crap and I still won :D

http://www.geocities.com/gummw0/stickcricket.JPG
Dude you were playing zimbabwe. Haha. I lost to australia by 20 runs. :upset:

RCVA
09-02-2005, 11:39 AM
I got 112 with Sehwag. I beat Zimbabwe too!

Ganondorf
09-02-2005, 04:45 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4207290.stm

Oh shi-, India (7th) beat New Zealand (4th) in ODI

Lord Abortion
09-02-2005, 05:40 PM
I liked the NZ team when the played England, Styris and Oram are top quality players

Untitled
09-02-2005, 06:33 PM
It's Dhan, you fool ;)
Oh, i am sorry for a type-o :rolleyes: :p

SoleFactionBassist
09-02-2005, 08:11 PM
Argh, does anyone know how to bowl off spin, i can bowl leg spin, not very well but i can get the ball moving a bit, and i dont seem to be able to get the right wrist action for the off spin.

Actully, i dunno if i can bowl offspin or leg, is leg spin where the spin is going left to right and when the ball pitches it goes to the left. Kinda like wharne. Ive confused myself now.

After the ashes im desperate to rejoin a team, but im scared ill be no good anymore, should i try out at a team or something?

Legspin is where it turns towards the right handers off stump and offspin where it turns towards a right handers leg stump.

Legspin is a roll of the wrist and the ball should come from the back of your hand which is why they tend to loop more and not be as quick.

Offspin, you spin the ball with your fingers perpendicular to the seam, the ball should stay seam up all the way through the air, the ball should come out of the front of your hand.

Warne is a leg spinner, Giles is a left hand off spinner, also called a left arm chinamen (i think).

Ganondorf
09-03-2005, 03:27 AM
What are Muralithran and Kumble?

Drop The Baby
09-03-2005, 05:56 AM
Muralitheran is a cheating off spinner who bowls strangely with a mix of his fingers and his wrist, therefore has a huge amount of spin.

Kumble is a leg spinner

Untitled
09-03-2005, 06:30 AM
Dont all spiners use there wrist and fingers to spin it. Or is he the one that does all wierd crap with his arms?

PianoDan
09-03-2005, 06:47 AM
Legspin is where it turns towards the right handers off stump and offspin where it turns towards a right handers leg stump.

Legspin is a roll of the wrist and the ball should come from the back of your hand which is why they tend to loop more and not be as quick.

Offspin, you spin the ball with your fingers perpendicular to the seam, the ball should stay seam up all the way through the air, the ball should come out of the front of your hand.

Warne is a leg spinner, Giles is a left hand off spinner, also called a left arm chinamen (i think).
Left-arm chinaman is sort of like left-arm wrist spin. The ball spins into the left hander, the opposite way to left-arm off spin.

Dont all spiners use there wrist and fingers to spin it. Or is he the one that does all wierd crap with his arms?
Yep, he's that guy. Chucker.

Drop The Baby
09-03-2005, 06:48 AM
Muralitheran is the bowler who has basically had the rules changed to accomodate his bowling style, he bolws with a double jointed wrist but really he throws it (bowls witha bent arm)

Off spinners: hold the ball across the seam with the first and middle finger at the top of the seam and the thumb propping up the bottom. As they release the ball the fingers run over the top of the ball allowing it to spin.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/cricket/analyst/bowling/ana_60.html



Leg Spinners: Grip the ball with the finbgers running around the seam. AS they release the ball they flick the wrist and use the ring finger to exert a large amount of spin.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/cricket/analyst/bowling/ana_63.html
http://www.liveindia.com/cricket/Bowling.html

Untitled
09-03-2005, 06:54 AM
Yeah, i know they guy you on about, i remember them talking about him on proberly channel4 last year.

Thanks for that offspin thing james, i understand that, its dam aqward to do.

Ive been able to leg spin (know the technique) for a few years, my dad taught me, but he said to use my little finger with ring to spin the ball, all preferance i guess.

Untitled
09-03-2005, 10:16 AM
Anyone watching the C+G cup final? Carters whicket was pure hilarity.

RCVA
09-03-2005, 10:26 AM
Yeah. Stacked onto the wicket. Bell's going along nicely.

Lord Abortion
09-03-2005, 10:28 AM
However, Muralitheran is second only to Warne in the alltime leading wicket-takers.
He must be doing something right

Ganondorf
09-03-2005, 12:45 PM
Wasn't only one of his deliveries illegal, and he got told to stop using it?

Untitled
09-03-2005, 12:50 PM
James said that he got the rules changed to make his bowling style legal, I cant remember the whole laws behind it.

SoleFactionBassist
09-04-2005, 05:26 AM
Wasn't only one of his deliveries illegal, and he got told to stop using it?

The Doosra.

Ganondorf
09-04-2005, 06:17 AM
Ah, that one. Anyone got any clips of it?

SoleFactionBassist
09-04-2005, 06:29 AM
Nope sorry. But it was really hard to pick a span a long way.

Drop The Baby
09-04-2005, 07:21 AM
However, Muralitheran is second only to Warne in the alltime leading wicket-takers.
He must be doing something right

yes he throws the ball very well

James said that he got the rules changed to make his bowling style legal, I cant remember the whole laws behind it.

basically the law of bowling is that the arm must be kept as straight as possible during the delivery of the ball. Spinners were allowed something like a 5% change and fast bowlers a 10% change, however because Murali bent his arm too much the ICC increased the amount spinners were allowed to bend their arm to suit him and allow him to bowl legally

Untitled
09-04-2005, 08:04 AM
thats a load of bollocks, lets go shoot him :mad:

Ganondorf
09-04-2005, 09:11 AM
Dosen'y he just have a double jointed arm or something?

SoleFactionBassist
09-05-2005, 03:34 AM
his elbow is double joingted which is why he cant straighten it properly

Jasarn
09-05-2005, 03:36 AM
Someone give me a quick update on the 4th test, my TV is broken.

Ganondorf
09-05-2005, 04:06 AM
England won by 3 wickets

Jasarn
09-05-2005, 04:06 AM
Noooooooo.

Untitled
09-05-2005, 07:06 AM
his elbow is double joingted which is why he cant straighten it properly
My fingers are double jointed, and i can striaghten them, and fingers are like tiny mini arms. So thats a lame excuse.

StandingStill
09-05-2005, 06:04 PM
My fingers are double jointed, and i can striaghten them, and fingers are like tiny mini arms. So thats a lame excuse.
Thats the best piece of reasoning I have ever heard.

SoleFactionBassist
09-06-2005, 01:11 AM
My fingers are double jointed, and i can striaghten them, and fingers are like tiny mini arms. So thats a lame excuse.

Hey thats the excuse given by the ICC doctors. :thumb:

Ganondorf
09-06-2005, 02:35 AM
ATTN: Only countries with sub-par spinners complain about Murali

Ganondorf
09-06-2005, 05:03 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4217830.stm

lololol

Lord Abortion
09-06-2005, 08:14 AM
Bugger, bugger ,bugger, bugger

RCVA
09-06-2005, 11:36 AM
Oh well. I choose Collingwood. I don't think much of Anderson.

Drop The Baby
09-06-2005, 12:14 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4217830.stm

lololol

how funny......

PianoDan
09-08-2005, 05:52 AM
ATTN: Only countries with sub-par spinners complain about Murali
So what's Shane Warne?

So the biggest Ashes Test in... a long time has just started. Warne just picked up the first wicket. England got off to a flyer after winning a crucial toss....

It's going to be a thriller.

TakeWarning
09-08-2005, 06:08 AM
95 for 1 arghhhhhh.

Drop The Baby
09-08-2005, 06:20 AM
Not best pleased with the way Vaughn got out

TakeWarning
09-08-2005, 07:04 AM
Not doing too badly now. Just come back from lunch.

Drop The Baby
09-08-2005, 07:40 AM
bollocks, pieto's gone

TakeWarning
09-08-2005, 07:45 AM
Wow, the tables have turned.

Untitled
09-08-2005, 10:20 AM
261-4 I dont think thats too bad. Struass should of been out a minute ago though.

IAJP
09-08-2005, 10:21 AM
Pretty nice stuff.

TheJem
09-08-2005, 10:32 AM
i didnt realise batts wobbled that much when they hit the ball. Anyone else watching it on C4?

Drop The Baby
09-08-2005, 10:33 AM
Don't matter Butler, that happened to Martyn in the last test, these things generally even themselves out.

Can't afford to lose a wicket at the moment though, at two wickets to the score and the aussies are on top again. They're both batting brilliantly at the moment, this match is very evenly poised.

Untitled
09-08-2005, 10:37 AM
Im hoping Flintoff will make 100, Struas has one already, im hopeing he'll get to 150. Then, if one gets out, the other one needs to stay in untill the end. But thats all easy coming from a 17 year old.

i didnt realise batts wobbled that much when they hit the ball. Anyone else watching it on C4?Yer, can piss you arm up if your not used to it.

Untitled
09-08-2005, 10:40 AM
Bugger. I thaught flintoff has a special designed bat to stop that happening, oh well, he played good.

Drop The Baby
09-08-2005, 11:50 AM
not looking to good, whatever happens now the aussies will be on top after the first day but nothing we can't turn around

Untitled
09-08-2005, 11:52 AM
Well, it looks like we'll finish on 350 or so, which isnt too bad, but without the ful strenght bowling line up, it may be hard to bowl them out.

Stevie
09-08-2005, 12:52 PM
How about this for a drinking game: simply drink a shot of beer for every run a team makes....possible yet hard to do.

Ganondorf
09-08-2005, 01:03 PM
Alchol posining if you're watching an Inida match :cool: ++

Anyway, yeah, I think England are slightly on top, or about even at the moment :)

Drop The Baby
09-08-2005, 01:05 PM
How about this for a drinking game: simply drink a shot of beer for every run a team makes....possible yet hard to do.

That's pretty f'ucking hard, you'd be suprised. Most people can't get past a shot of beer a minute after 30

Stevie
09-08-2005, 01:16 PM
That's pretty f'ucking hard, you'd be suprised. Most people can't get past a shot of beer a minute after 30

I did the centurion game quite easily, that's why I wonder. If I had no responsibilities today I would have done it, for the hell of it.

Untitled
09-08-2005, 01:16 PM
How about this for a drinking game: simply drink a shot of beer for every run a team makes....possible yet hard to do.
Id be hammered after 20 or so runs :upset:

Drop The Baby
09-08-2005, 01:25 PM
I did the centurion game quite easily, that's why I wonder. If I had no responsibilities today I would have done it, for the hell of it.

i might ry that tomorrow.

By the way, i LOVE your avatar, it's hilarious

RCVA
09-08-2005, 02:32 PM
If Jones stays in we could get 400. He needs to play well though.

young10ben
09-08-2005, 04:29 PM
the ashes r cumin home- sweet as

snoogans
09-08-2005, 07:35 PM
booooowled shane!

Drop The Baby
09-09-2005, 06:04 AM
always good to watch Steve Harmison bat. Now let's watch him rip the piss out of these aussies with a fiery spell!

TakeWarning
09-09-2005, 06:17 AM
Ah the tension is killing me.

Drop The Baby
09-09-2005, 09:08 AM
haha.

The aussies have made a good start, f'uck we could do with Jones now. If only Tresco had held onto that chance

Untitled
09-09-2005, 01:51 PM
If its rianing all day tomorrow, like predicted, well afternoon, then itll go in englands favor batting first, get a draw....but Hopefully we will win.

Angry Balled Fists!
09-09-2005, 01:54 PM
Man, i think we will play for a draw...

Untitled
09-09-2005, 02:08 PM
They'll play for a win, even though they only need a draw i think theyd prefer to win the last match.

Ganondorf
09-09-2005, 02:16 PM
I think it will be a draw or England win, why did they take the light? :(

Untitled
09-09-2005, 02:38 PM
I think it will be a draw or England win, why did they take the light? :(Ha ha, who knows? plays into englands hands though, i think.

Drop The Baby
09-10-2005, 08:06 AM
that was a good time to take a wicket, Langer and Hayden were looking confident out there.

What a great last over from Harmy, full of aggression. Could do with some more of that

Lord Abortion
09-10-2005, 08:10 AM
Yeah, a bloody good over, like the Harmison of old, now we need to take a couple more.

I see Flintoff bowling to ponting when they return.

Untitled
09-10-2005, 08:10 AM
Itll be good for when they get back out too, if they do anytime soon, always good to finish a session on a high..

Drop The Baby
09-10-2005, 08:36 AM
apparently it has stopped raining, hopefully they're trying to clean uo the outfield now. With a bit of luck the rain could have spiced up the pitch a bit

Ganondorf
09-10-2005, 08:54 AM
Yep it has stopped, I live sort of near there....the pitch had puddles on it though :(

Drop The Baby
09-10-2005, 09:08 AM
yeah i live fairly near too. The rain clouds look like they've passed me by without any rain. Good stuff

Untitled
09-10-2005, 10:11 AM
Ehhh, there back on now, no need to worry.

Untitled
09-10-2005, 10:26 AM
More rian :mad:

Ganondorf
09-10-2005, 10:30 AM
I felt happy for Hayden, when he got his hundred :):):)

Untitled
09-10-2005, 10:33 AM
I Didnt.

You people in londen are rubbish, you dont know have to have proper rian. At least when it rianed in manchester it made a whole day go off, not go on for 30mins, then off for 30mins, then on agian, and off, and on. :p

Bloody southerners :D

Drop The Baby
09-10-2005, 10:33 AM
God, i can't f'ucking believe Ponting was given not out. There was two clear noises and i reckon that wasa pretty poor decision.

Tony Greig was chatting sh!t when he said it wasn't out, it was obvious in the slow replay and even the snick-o-meter proved it with the high streak on it.

Untitled
09-10-2005, 10:36 AM
Yeah, it should off been out, but its not like england dont get decisions like that towards us.

Untitled
09-10-2005, 10:44 AM
Hoggard is bowling well, he should of got langer i think it was for LBW before but they said it wasnt out. Also Gilles hanst been doing to bad. But im thinking now that they shouldnt of picked collingwood. He hasnt done much with the ball and didnt with the bat either, been good on the outfeild though.

Drop The Baby
09-10-2005, 10:54 AM
I'm suprised Giles came on when he did, i thought harmison and Flintoff would've been exactly what the aussies wouldn't want to be facing on a pitch that's been livened up by rain.

Giles has bolwed some brilliant balls, but mixed in have been too many four balls

Untitled
09-10-2005, 10:57 AM
Bah, am so pissed off there taking cricket off channel4, i will NEVER get to watch it ever anymore because i dont have sky sports, i might go to some lancs games but i want to see england games. :upset:

Drop The Baby
09-10-2005, 11:00 AM
yeah that was a bollocks decision by the ECB. The thing they've showing now is good

Untitled
09-10-2005, 11:02 AM
The Cricket Show? The last ever one, thats what pissed me off.

I know MP for heywood and rochdale where i live is trying to get it back on terestrial tv, or so i think i heard.

Echleon
09-10-2005, 03:59 PM
Wait, so does the end of the Cricket Show mean no more Cricket on C4?

Lord Abortion
09-10-2005, 04:27 PM
Alot of descisions failed to go England's way...Hoggard should have had at least two this morning. Crappy Rudi Kurtzen...

Untitled
09-10-2005, 04:47 PM
Wait, so does the end of the Cricket Show mean no more Cricket on C4?
Sky have all the rights to televised cricket in the Uk now, so thats why this morn it was the last ever cricket show, and i think this test is the last is the last to eb ever shown on C4, but im not sure about that.:(

Echleon
09-10-2005, 04:53 PM
Crap, that sucks; I probably will never have Sky Sports :(

What a poor descision; just as the game has taken a massive rise in popularity.

Untitled
09-10-2005, 04:56 PM
Crap, that sucks; I probably will never have Sky Sports :(

What a poor descision; just as the game has taken a massive rise in popularity.
The ECB gave the rights to Sky in last winter or something when it wasnt as popular as it is now. But it is an AWFULL decision, the only live cricket ill see now is when i go to old trafford, if i have any money to get my arse down there :upset:

Lord Abortion
09-10-2005, 05:01 PM
Crap, that sucks; I probably will never have Sky Sports :(

What a poor descision; just as the game has taken a massive rise in popularity.
Exactly... I'm in the same position

and the commentary will be gay, I don't suppose Richie will go over there

I will never again be able to go "Morning Richie!" when he says "morning everybody" at the start of a day's play, that's really upsetting me, it's part of my cricket experience...

Echleon
09-10-2005, 05:06 PM
:upset:

I bet all the big executives at Sky TV are laughing right now. Who knows, maybe the rights will get changed in the future.

Untitled
09-10-2005, 05:08 PM
I wont be able to watch it either.

Richie isnt going to sky, he's going back to Channel9 in Austrialia.

Lord Abortion
09-10-2005, 05:49 PM
:upset:

I bet all the big executives at Sky TV are laughing right now. Who knows, maybe the rights will get changed in the future.
Four years, by that time everyone will have digital TV.

Untitled
09-10-2005, 05:55 PM
In 4 years i will be half way threw uni, i wont be able to afford Digi :(

Does anyone know if BBC will still have radio rights? i could servive listening to that..

Ganondorf
09-11-2005, 06:55 AM
Although the Aussies had the initiative early on today, I believe the dimsmisals, especially of the 'destroyer' Gilchrist, have more or less confirmed an England victory or draw, and thus an England Ashes win.....

TakeWarning
09-11-2005, 07:01 AM
If England win I'm slitting my wrists.

Lord Abortion
09-11-2005, 07:06 AM
Yeah. Australia will hopefully crumble this afternoon and then if the light gets offered to England, That's it. Ther's no way there'll be enough time to do two innings tomorrow.

Untitled
09-11-2005, 07:27 AM
England are doing great this morning. :cool:

Lord Abortion
09-11-2005, 07:28 AM
And warne is out, hahaha. They aren't even going to have a lead...

Untitled
09-11-2005, 07:31 AM
368-8 :eek:

Still 10 behind, i would of never of thaught this would happen after yestoday.

Lord Abortion
09-11-2005, 07:35 AM
368-8 :eek:

Still 10 behind, i would of never of thaught this would happen after yestoday.
And Mcgrath, only one left and they're still behind...

Untitled
09-11-2005, 07:36 AM
And Mcgrath, only one left and they're still behind...
Yeah, i just turned over from the F1 and he was walking off, :D

363-9

Lord Abortion
09-11-2005, 07:43 AM
Yeah, i just turned over from the F1 and he was walking off, :D

363-9
And that's it

however, if we can do it...Australia can probably do it too...

TakeWarning
09-11-2005, 08:01 AM
We're screwed.

Untitled
09-11-2005, 08:04 AM
And that's it

however, if we can do it...Australia can probably do it too...
Hopefully not. Im hopeing the light gets worse and then see if the offer it it, which we'll properly take.

Lord Abortion
09-11-2005, 08:08 AM
Yeah, we must just wait for the offer of light, then just take it and hope to see how long it lasts.

Am I hell going to school tomorrow!

Untitled
09-11-2005, 08:19 AM
Im in college, but i have a free last lesson so i should catch a lot of the game.

The crowd are cracking me up, singing "its so dark is unbeleavable" and also all puting there brollys up, but then the aussie take the shirts of saying its warm, t'iz quite amusing.

Lord Abortion
09-11-2005, 08:22 AM
And that's it!
the light has gone.

Untitled
09-11-2005, 08:22 AM
WOOO, theyve come off.

manuscriptreplica
09-11-2005, 08:31 AM
what kind of stupid oval has no lights :(

Lord Abortion
09-11-2005, 08:31 AM
Yeah, hopefully it'll last a while...

Untitled
09-11-2005, 08:33 AM
what kind of stupid oval has no lights :(
It proberly does have lights for the day night matchs, but think of the electric bill!!

manuscriptreplica
09-11-2005, 08:34 AM
It proberly does have lights for the day night matchs, but think of the electric bill!!

Don't worry we can reimburse you after the match if the bill is too high :smoke:

Lord Abortion
09-11-2005, 08:35 AM
Now there's rain too!

:lol:

Untitled
09-11-2005, 08:38 AM
they should of gone off if theres two spinners, but its rianing anyway now. But i think when Rudi was on about Fiar play he meant the aussies where going off for not to bad light.

manuscriptreplica
09-11-2005, 08:38 AM
What are the aussies (crowd) doing? Still got their shirts off? lol

Untitled
09-11-2005, 08:40 AM
What are the aussies (crowd) doing? Still got their shirts off? lol
Proberly, having a shower, smelly cons :p

There not showing the crowd now, there all in the studio.

manuscriptreplica
09-11-2005, 08:43 AM
We have Allan Border still bitching about the light rule. And some metro wearing a pink shirt. Shame, i thought the aussies could of won. Oh well, we've had the trophy for too long anyway :lol:

Untitled
09-11-2005, 08:45 AM
they shouldnt of come off for the light, its rianing now i think so thats fine, but if the spinners are on they should be on, the english commentators where maoning about them coming off saying its a bad decision here.

manuscriptreplica
09-11-2005, 08:46 AM
they shouldnt of come off for the light, its rianing now i think so thats fine, but if the spinners are on they should be on, the english commentators where maoning about them coming off saying its a bad decision here.

I don't have a problem with them coming off, i mean the Aussies did exactly the same thing 2 days ago.

Untitled
09-11-2005, 08:48 AM
Ha ha, i dont have a problem with them coming off, in fact im the total opposite, but as the rules stand, they should of stayed out.

manuscriptreplica
09-11-2005, 08:50 AM
Yeah... oh well its raining so there's no controversy. I just hope it clears up soon so i can at least see some cricket.

Untitled
09-11-2005, 08:58 AM
I dont :D

Untitled
09-11-2005, 09:06 AM
NOOOO play resumes at 3.10

Drop The Baby
09-11-2005, 09:53 AM
It's a bit of a shame, unfortunate more than naything. My point of view is that if England lost a flurry of wickets now the game would virtually be handed to the aussies and its a real shame that weather is playing such a big part in the conclusion of the series rather than overall cricketing ability.

What we have to remember is though that the Ashes would already be England's if it wasn't for weather in the third test

RCVA
09-11-2005, 10:11 AM
Yeah. I want to watch cricket but i'd rather England won the ashes. Next year i won't be able to watch any cricket, which sucks.

Untitled
09-11-2005, 10:21 AM
It's a bit of a shame, unfortunate more than naything. My point of view is that if England lost a flurry of wickets now the game would virtually be handed to the aussies and its a real shame that weather is playing such a big part in the conclusion of the series rather than overall cricketing ability.

What we have to remember is though that the Ashes would already be England's if it wasn't for weather in the third test
Yer, so its only fair we use the weather this time ;)

Drop The Baby
09-11-2005, 10:28 AM
^^exactly :)

Cricket on sky = a f'ucking disgrace

Untitled
09-11-2005, 10:42 AM
I think we shuold riad the the ECB HQ and murder the broadcasting people....

Mwhahahah

CRICKET PUNX UNIT!

Ganondorf
09-11-2005, 04:17 PM
No offence, I can see why you want rain, so England win The Ashes, but most real cricket fans (including the ever biased Geofery Boycott) would still like to see as much play as possible.....

Also, am I the only one who found the Aussie sunglasses-schtick hilarious? :lol:

Untitled
09-11-2005, 04:35 PM
Hey, im a real cricket fan, have been for years, i even have a cricket shirt on right now. but i didnt mind having the light offered.

I must say, i did piss myself when the Aussies did that.

Echleon
09-11-2005, 04:56 PM
I only managed to watch the first two hours of the test today; which was annoying, because I wont be able to watch it tomorrow (maybe the last couple of hours)

I was at my Nans house; where we watched the F1 insted; but I did occasionly check the scores :)

I hope BBC still has Radio rights; it won't be so bad if this is true.

Untitled
09-11-2005, 05:02 PM
I only managed to watch the first two hours of the test today; which was annoying, because I wont be able to watch it tomorrow (maybe the last couple of hours)

I was at my Nans house; where we watched the F1 insted; but I did occasionly check the scores :)

I hope BBC still has Radio rights; it won't be so bad if this is true.
I did that but every time i turned over for the results something major happened like Fisi crash, and Montoyas, and Shucis, and stuff:upset:

Echleon
09-11-2005, 05:08 PM
I did that but every time i turned over for the results something major happened like Fisi crash, and Montoyas, and Shucis, and stuff:upset:

Yeah, today was such a good race, Belgium always is :D

I can't believe Montoya went off right at the end, that didnt help Raikkonen at all. I don't think he's got much chance at the Championship anymore.

Schumachers and Sato's crash was pretty disastorious, Michael was very unhappy about that :lol: (doesn't like M.Schumacher)

Shame about Ralf though; he had a great chance for Podium, but took a unwise gamble on the dry tyres and threw it away. :upset:

Button was doing great in the last 7 laps or so; he nearly over took Alonso; seeing he was 4-5 seconds faster then him each lap; but 3rd was good for him I guess. I'd still like him to win one though; he deserves it.

Echleon
09-11-2005, 05:12 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004/12_december/15/cricket.shtml

Ahhh, good news; BBC still has Radio rights.

I could bare listening to it on the Radio possibly; doesn't compare to TV though :(

EDIT: Off to bed; just spent last 6 hours doing Coursework. Me = tired

Night :wave:

Untitled
09-11-2005, 05:27 PM
Yeah, today was such a good race, Belgium always is :D

I can't believe Montoya went off right at the end, that didnt help Raikkonen at all. I don't think he's got much chance at the Championship anymore.

Schumachers and Sato's crash was pretty disastorious, Michael was very unhappy about that :lol: (doesn't like M.Schumacher)

Shame about Ralf though; he had a great chance for Podium, but took a unwise gamble on the dry tyres and threw it away. :upset:

Button was doing great in the last 7 laps or so; he nearly over took Alonso; seeing he was 4-5 seconds faster then him each lap; but 3rd was good for him I guess. I'd still like him to win one though; he deserves it.
What i saw it was great, im happy Kimi won, but like in Turkey its bitter sweet as montoya goes out.

I love how Shuci hit sato over the head ha ha. (also dont like Shuci *watches avatar, zmmm* )
Button did great.

Good to hear BBC have the rights, i should get to listen to some games now, but i need hawk eye, and the analyst, and i wanna see the ball insted of them eplianing it :(

Ganondorf
09-12-2005, 12:56 AM
*Knows nothing about F1* :p

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 06:22 AM
Anyway, back to the best test series of all time.... I take back everything I've ever said about Bell. He is a joke, I knew he was gonna nick it first ball. Clown...

Lord Abortion
09-12-2005, 06:25 AM
Anyway, back to the best test series of all time.... I take back everything I've ever said about Bell. He is a joke, I knew he was gonna nick it first ball. Clown...
I told you so..Flintoff just got C+B by warne...this is going badly...

Drop The Baby
09-12-2005, 06:54 AM
f'uck this is getting tense. Thank f'uck warne dropped Pietersen

Untitled
09-12-2005, 07:46 AM
Pieterson has done great in the 2 overs i have watched today.

TakeWarning
09-12-2005, 07:48 AM
Once again the suspence is making me nervous.

Lord Abortion
09-12-2005, 07:51 AM
We are fine if we bat until after tea...

as long as KP doesn't screw up we are fine.

Untitled
09-12-2005, 07:58 AM
We still have some good batters like Flintoff and GJones to come dont we? Both can smack the ball about, both agresive players. I was also thinking that if we still are in by tea, we should be right.

Drop The Baby
09-12-2005, 08:00 AM
Flintoff's out.

KP's doing very well taking the fight to the aussies. Collingwood's holding up and end well.

F'uck what's gone on here? Hit the floor i think

Untitled
09-12-2005, 08:01 AM
Yer, it the floor first, just. Shame flintoff is out, he can be quite handy.

Lord Abortion
09-12-2005, 08:04 AM
Yer, it the floor first, just. Shame flintoff is out, he can be quite handy.
Yeah, good young player, hasn't done much this series though.
He's not very popular amongst the crowd either






















:lol:

Untitled
09-12-2005, 08:06 AM
He plays for lancashire, so i like him :)

TakeWarning
09-12-2005, 08:06 AM
I hope we get Petersen out soon.

Lord Abortion
09-12-2005, 08:07 AM
He plays for lancashire, so i like him :)
Notice the lol smiley

Untitled
09-12-2005, 08:08 AM
Notice the lol smiley
I know it was supposed to be sarcastic, but he plays for lancashire....

Lord Abortion
09-12-2005, 08:12 AM
I know it was supposed to be sarcastic, but he plays for lancashire....
Yeah, all good, that's the sort of reason I back Collingwood and Harmy in any circumstances...
Durham lads you see?

TakeWarning
09-12-2005, 08:19 AM
Ooh good, Collingwood's gone.

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 08:20 AM
Well Collingwood just got done by Warne. Come on Geraint! Need to stay alive until tea at least. Always knew this was going to go down to the wire...

Untitled
09-12-2005, 08:21 AM
Yeah, all good, that's the sort of reason I back Collingwood and Harmy in any circumstances...
Durham lads you see?
But PC is out :upset:

Lord Abortion
09-12-2005, 08:24 AM
But PC is out :upset:
Yeah, I typed that two balls before he went.
Blast :(

Drop The Baby
09-12-2005, 08:49 AM
Bollocks f'ucking Jones is out now. I've been one of the people supporting his seletion but i think he may have blown it now, he's dropping catches and his batting isn't readucing the deficit of his mistakes

Lord Abortion
09-12-2005, 08:58 AM
I know if we're still batting by tea then we are safe.
I know if we're still batting by 4pm then we're really safe

Drop The Baby
09-12-2005, 09:04 AM
Don't underestimate the Gilchrist factor

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 09:17 AM
You worry too much! If Gilchrist opens the batting which I think he may well do along with Hayden and they score 250+ off 20 overs then fair play to them. I'll be gutted but it'll still been the best series of all time and you will of still enjoyed it. I just wanna see Shane Warne cry.

Untitled
09-12-2005, 09:25 AM
Wharne won't cry, he'd proberly just go congragerlate our team if we win, but you know, we got to tea time so its all good.

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 09:36 AM
I know he wont. I can dream....

Lord Abortion
09-12-2005, 09:39 AM
Find out where he lives and kick him in the balls.
Then he'll cry

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 10:56 AM
Right. I'm gonna stick my neck out and say that if we don't win back the ashes now I'll get a full body wax.

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 11:01 AM
Pietersen bowled literally 1 minute after that post. amazing.

sketchyjoe
09-12-2005, 11:35 AM
Giles has batted well.

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 11:44 AM
Bowled. But hes been as good as Pietersen in my opinion, exceptional performance.

Untitled
09-12-2005, 12:22 PM
We Win Yesssssssss!!

MILF Hunter
09-12-2005, 12:26 PM
England win! :D

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 12:41 PM
Shane didnt cry.... Awesome series though.

Angry Balled Fists!
09-12-2005, 12:53 PM
oh Yeah

Untitled
09-12-2005, 01:01 PM
Shane didnt cry.... Awesome series though.
I said he wouldnt.

I love how channel 4 say "our south african batsman won it for us" or something :rolleyes:

Echleon
09-12-2005, 01:02 PM
Finaly, the Ashes are home :D

Ganondorf
09-12-2005, 01:03 PM
Well played England

Shame that's the last we'll see on terestrial TV, and also the last time McGrath and Warne will play a Test match in England :(

JeBuSrOcKs
09-12-2005, 01:05 PM
it was a great performance from the whole england team and they deserved to win. finally the ashes are home :D :D :D

DaveTNG
09-12-2005, 01:06 PM
I said he wouldnt.

I love how channel 4 say "our south african batsman won it for us" or something :rolleyes:

Yeah I noticed that seemed stupid to me. I loved the way Pietersen stuck it back to his critics when Mark Nicholls( nicholls or nicholas?) asked him about his earrings. He's an idiot sometimes that guy, like when he asked Fletcher to pick the best guy out of the side. :rolleyes:

Untitled
09-12-2005, 01:08 PM
I never liked him as a presenter.

Just you watch, BBC sports personatly of the year = Freddie FLintoff, BBC Sports Team of the Year = England cricket, you know its true.

Ganondorf
09-12-2005, 01:10 PM
Well who else is it gonna be? :p

Firecracker
09-12-2005, 01:10 PM
**** woot!!!!!!!!

Untitled
09-12-2005, 01:11 PM
Well who else is it gonna be? :p
As presenter? I think Athers would be best

sketchyjoe
09-12-2005, 01:11 PM
Well done England.

Ganondorf
09-12-2005, 01:13 PM
As presenter? I think Athers would be best

No, as the BBC team of the year

I liked the Mambo Numebr #5 Ashes montage at the end also

Untitled
09-12-2005, 01:15 PM
No, as the BBC team of the year

I liked the Mambo Numebr #5 Ashes montage at the end also
Ohh. I was thinking Mclaren F1 if they win the constructers championship. Not that shambles of a football team though :lol: :lol:

Im happy Wharne won the best Aussie player, noone got anywhere near his proformance for them.

Echleon
09-12-2005, 01:15 PM
Yeah, it's a shame about all the rights going to BSkyB; but maybe it'll return one day...

No doubt that Flintoff will get Sports Personality of the Year.

I thoroughly enjoyed this test; it has truly been a great summer, just a shame that I won't be able to watch anymore televised Cricket for 4 + years :(

Untitled
09-12-2005, 01:18 PM
OMG, not more WG GRace adverts, they WAS what made the ashes for me :upset:

Echleon
09-12-2005, 01:19 PM
Heh, the WG Grace adverts were fun ;)

Untitled
09-12-2005, 01:25 PM
If it wasnt for them ads i would of proberly missed most of the test so you know.

DaveTNG
09-12-2005, 01:26 PM
I wanted to see him eat his beard like he said he would if we hadn't won the ashes.

Echleon
09-12-2005, 01:36 PM
Does anybody know of any contraption that allows you to listen to Radio on your iPod/MP3 player?

I'd really like to listen to BBC Radio 5 for some Cricket.

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 01:41 PM
podcasts, but they wont put sports coverage on those I dont think.

Echleon
09-12-2005, 02:05 PM
So... there isn't even a device I can attach to my iPod that will let me pickup radio?

I assumed there would be :(

Ganondorf
09-12-2005, 02:46 PM
From BBC Website

'This Test series bore resemblance, in terms of excitement and quality of play, to Australia's 2001 tour to India, which the Aussies lost 2-1 having won the first Test and enforced the follow-on in the second.

Australia were overshadowed that year on the subcontinent just as they have been in England four years on. And, like then, Australia are sent home with a lot to think about.

But that is where the comparisons end.

There was no suggestion back then that India had dethroned the king, and Australia went on to cement their position in history as one of the great teams, steamrollering teams who got in their way.

Now, however, there is a new team in town and Australia must face up to the uncomfortable reality that their days at the top are numbered.'

English media at their most arrogant!

IAJP
09-12-2005, 02:49 PM
I can't believe it, I was in work and missed it!

****ing pooey poo poo.

Lord Abortion
09-12-2005, 02:50 PM
Shane didnt cry.... Awesome series though.
My avatar looks like he's crying
hahahahahahah...

We love you KP, We do!
We love you KP, We do!
We love you KP, We do!
Kevin Pietersen We love you!

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 03:07 PM
From BBC Website

'This Test series bore resemblance, in terms of excitement and quality of play, to Australia's 2001 tour to India, which the Aussies lost 2-1 having won the first Test and enforced the follow-on in the second.

Australia were overshadowed that year on the subcontinent just as they have been in England four years on. And, like then, Australia are sent home with a lot to think about.

But that is where the comparisons end.

There was no suggestion back then that India had dethroned the king, and Australia went on to cement their position in history as one of the great teams, steamrollering teams who got in their way.

Now, however, there is a new team in town and Australia must face up to the uncomfortable reality that their days at the top are numbered.'

English media at their most arrogant!
Why? Thats all true. Nice Avatar Lord.

SoleFactionBassist
09-12-2005, 04:59 PM
From BBC Website

'This Test series bore resemblance, in terms of excitement and quality of play, to Australia's 2001 tour to India, which the Aussies lost 2-1 having won the first Test and enforced the follow-on in the second.

Australia were overshadowed that year on the subcontinent just as they have been in England four years on. And, like then, Australia are sent home with a lot to think about.

But that is where the comparisons end.

There was no suggestion back then that India had dethroned the king, and Australia went on to cement their position in history as one of the great teams, steamrollering teams who got in their way.

Now, however, there is a new team in town and Australia must face up to the uncomfortable reality that their days at the top are numbered.'

English media at their most arrogant!

I would have to agree, England won the test series because they played great cricket, especially Flintoff, Jones and the English top order. Australia's weaknessess were shown when we couldn't take enough wickets without McGrath bowling with Warne. England still need to beat us in Australia to really set themselves at the top and if we win the super series than that would have to set us back on top.

kriszt
09-12-2005, 05:01 PM
woooo i watched the entire last game of the ashes

the other i kinda browsed on but, both teams played well and it was nyones game


ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!!

Lord Abortion
09-12-2005, 05:08 PM
I would have to agree, England won the test series because they played great cricket, especially Flintoff, Jones and the English top order. Australia's weaknessess were shown when we couldn't take enough wickets without McGrath bowling with Warne. England still need to beat us in Australia to really set themselves at the top and if we win the super series than that would have to set us back on top.
And Australia's top order were monumentally poor, only Ian bell was rubbish in there for us.

StandingStill
09-12-2005, 06:04 PM
Without McGrath+Warne, Australia are just a potent batting side with some decent bowling. They are both going to retire and they aren't left with very much. England have a younger, more balanced team. Not the best in the world, but with definate potential to one day become the best.

Wintermute
09-12-2005, 07:52 PM
http://static.ecb.co.uk/images/width150/vaughan2crop-4122.jpg

:D:D

Ganondorf
09-13-2005, 01:32 AM
errm wtf are you England fans on about 'that's all true'?

If Laxman getting 281 and Harbajahn Singh getting 6-73 isn't comprehensively beating the Aussies, I don't know what is, bearing in mind that in 2001, that was the Aussie team with a younegr McGrath and Warne, Jason Gillespie actually a good bowler back then and the Waugh brothers still around, I don't see how india beating that team is any less a sign in the 'balance of power' then England beating the Aussies is?

StandingStill
09-13-2005, 03:13 AM
Your missing the point with your frenzied England hating. The Aussies had whitewashed India the year before at home. India lost by 10 wickets in the first test and won the other 2 very well. I remember there being compliaints about the state of the pitches being tailored for spin and to nulify seam bowling. Even so it was still a close series and it took some fanastic individual performances for India to win. Not to mention the fact Australia won the ODI straight afterwards. However it was a 3-match test, not a 5 match test, so it can't measure it against England's victory.
McGrath and Warne haven't got worse with age, McGrath has never been pacey and although Warne doesnt have as many deliveries as he used to, this has only strenghtened other aspects of his game. He averaged 19.9 runs a wicket. The point is that when McGrath was out of the team they lost, relying entirely on Warne for wickets, which wasnt quite enough. With both of those players reaching retirement its not like they can bounch back with the same faces and win like they did against India in 2003. They are facing an extensive rebuilding job. India beat a team that still had time to develop and bounce back. Which they did. England have beaten a team running out of options with a young, balanced team that can improve further. Flintoff wasn't as good as he has been with the bat, Vaughan has just started to escape from his loss of batting form, Harmison wasn't at his best, Bell was plain rubbish and Pietersen looks like hes only going to improve.

TakeWarning
09-13-2005, 03:17 AM
**** England in the ear. Beat us in The Ashes will you....

/starts muttering darkly.

manuscriptreplica
09-13-2005, 04:04 AM
http://static.ecb.co.uk/images/width150/vaughan2crop-4122.jpg

:D:D

It's somewhat humerous that the most coveted prize in cricket is so tiny.

There's rumours about that Warne will return in 2009. don't get too cozy with that tiny trophy, England ;)

Jasarn
09-13-2005, 04:07 AM
It's somewhat humerous that the most coveted prize in cricket is so tiny.

There's rumours about that Warne will return in 2009. don't get too cozy with that tiny trophy, England ;)

Yeah, return to watch in the stands.

SoleFactionBassist
09-13-2005, 05:54 AM
Without McGrath+Warne, Australia are just a potent batting side with some decent bowling. They are both going to retire and they aren't left with very much. England have a younger, more balanced team. Not the best in the world, but with definate potential to one day become the best.

True, but we do have some promising young talent that will take quite a while to develop in the bowling ranks. Tait, Hauritz. And as for our batting Ponting and Langer were decent throughout the series, as was Clarke it was Martyn and Hayden who struggled the most. And as for Gilchrist I don't know what happened there, Freddy just had his number.