Official Cricket Thread

[Ganondorf]

ps. Gillespie is horrible

[Lord Abortion]

gillespie and the one who's name I can't pronounce are metalheads

[Ganondorf]

yeah, I read a cricket magazine and his CD collection had like Metallica, Van Halen, Led Zep etc in it.

[Untitled]

WTF. Wharne, school boy error number 1. Dont stand on your own wickets.

[BJ_maddog]

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This close, Australia.

[Untitled]

YES, england win by 2 runs :cool:

[Ganondorf]

2 RUNS!!!??!?!?!?!

The Australian tail enders were nearly heroes. England should've wrapped it up ages ago.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

And they call cricket boring....

I always love seeing THAT look on Warne's face

[Untitled]

Dhan, you have to put a downer on the win, just because you dont like engerland.

/Shakes fist angerly.

[MILF Hunter]

What a ****ing game

[Untitled]

And they call cricket boring....

I always love seeing THAT look on Warne's face
He's a twat and hes to smug so i love to see him piss up, i mean, standing on your own stumps, they teach you not to do that stuff when your 10.

[tehnick]

****in hell that sucks

[Ganondorf]

Dhan, you have to put a downer on the win, just because you dont like engerland.

/Shakes fist angerly.

:p :thumb:

Shane Warne is a legend :p

[Ganondorf]

He's a twat and hes to smug so i love to see him piss up, i mean, standing on your own stumps, they teach you not to do that stuff when your 10.

I think he was trying to kick the ball.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Thing is, Warne has been infamous for making batsmen hit their own wicket for years, and to see him drop kick off stump was classic.

Now we see what the Aussie team will be like for thursday, as Lee took a few fair knocks too.

[Untitled]

Pfft, there coming to manchester :evil: we wont let the aussies win.

I wish i had a ticket :(

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Trent Bridge after that, my local. Im hoping they'll do a big screen dealy there too.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Yes !

What A Game :d

[poorquality]

Close - great end to a game though, i wonder why ive never been interested in cricket before :S its great fun

[Untitled]

Trent Bridge after that, my local. Im hoping they'll do a big screen dealy there too.
Yeah im hoping they are here, i dunno where it would be though. Im gonna check the Channel 4 website.

[attocarret]

i cant believe we lost 3 runs shy :(

[Clunge]

Oh man, that was edge of your seat stuff, a 2 run victory! We so nearly threw it away with all those byes and crap balls. Electric atmosphere as well.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

i cant believe we lost 3 runs shy :(

Hahaha, unlucky.

Lee and Shane were awesome.

[ThrashMaster27]

As an Englishman living in Australia I was seriously contemplating not going into work tomorrow before Kasprowicz got caught.

Nailbiting game! great effort by the Aussies.

[RCVA]

What a match. I just hope that Flintoff can keep it up throughout the summer.

[PianoDan]

That was one of the best Test matches I have ever seen/heard. Unbelievable. I had written Australia off at the start of the day, but Warne was fantastic. Then Lee took over when Warne trod on his stump (he will never forgive himself for that), and Kasprowicz was great too. The excitement was amazing, and not only of the last day. The whole match was one of the most entertaining matches I remember seeing for a long time. Pietersen and Flintoff in the first innings; the Aussies not really batting very well at all due to some good pressure from England in their first innings; an amazing day on day 3, England being bowled out for 182 with Lee ripping through the batsman in an incredible spell and Warne cleaning up and ending up with 6 wickets. Flintoff in that innings was, again, amazing; and his bowling backed it up incredibly.

Full credit to England, I've never seen them play like that before. Superb Test, and one of the closest results in history to go with it.

And it's great for the series. England would have been all but out of it had they lost, but now it will be a very entertaining series indeed (I'm still sure that Australia will win).

[PianoDan]

Thing is, Warne has been infamous for making batsmen hit their own wicket for years, and to see him drop kick off stump was classic.
As a matter of fact, Warne has not once in his entire Test career dismissed a batsman hit wicket.

[Ganondorf]

I liked Warne's bowl of a few days ago, when England were like 25-1 in the second innings. That was awesome.

[Ganondorf]

I think we should make a world's best 11 team, it would be cool :p

[Untitled]

I think we should make a world's best 11 team, it would be cool :p
1 - Austrilia
2 - Engerland.

There cant be much arguing with that.

[Ganondorf]

no, I mean 11 players in the world who would make the best team.

Also, wait till the might of India play England :)

[Lord Abortion]

What a ****ing game
agreed spectacularly...
haha...warne is a loser :p

[Ganondorf]

Warne is a better bowler than eveyrone in the England team. Fact.

[Lord Abortion]

Warne is a better bowler than eveyrone in the England team. Fact.
maybe, but one great bowler and another who is injured don't make a team, in this series, in this test especially, australia's batting has been very suspect..
do you see any replacements for this golden age of cricketers?
warne is 35, mcgrath is 36, they will be retiring soon, ponting and langer are coming to that stage... are there australian players to take their places?

[warwickcorvette]

Warne is a better bowler than eveyrone in the England team. Fact.

big deal, we still beat u aussies

[Adam Jones is GOD]

As a matter of fact, Warne has not once in his entire Test career dismissed a batsman hit wicket.

I've seen Atherton go that way to Warne twice, hitting his own wicket with his bat, then pushing his back foot right back.

Maybe the stats give it as a b.Warne, but i've seen it. WIth his style of bowling, its all credit to him that he can put them into such a position

[StoneRosesFanatic]

no, I mean 11 players in the world who would make the best team.

Also, wait till the might of India play England :)

Well you'd have Freddie and Warne in there deffo.


Did anyone see a sign at the game today?

YOU SAY F--- OFF
WE SAY FLINTOFF!

Absolute genius. :naughty:

[Ganondorf]

big deal, we still beat u aussies

I'm not Australian, I live in England, I just hate the English team.

This is why, no one in England gave a crap about cricket when they were getting smashed to peices by Australia, India, Pakistan et al, but now they're good everyone is like omg England are the best because we beat Australia by 2 runs omg.

[Clunge]

big deal, we still beat u aussies
:lol: Learn to reason an argument properly.

[PianoDan]

I've seen Atherton go that way to Warne twice, hitting his own wicket with his bat, then pushing his back foot right back.

Maybe the stats give it as a b.Warne, but i've seen it. WIth his style of bowling, its all credit to him that he can put them into such a position
That's interesting. A hit wicket is usually due to some good work by the bowler, so if he did dismiss Atherton that way then it is full credit to him. I just went through a list of all of his 596 wickets and didn't find one hit wicket, but maybe I missed something. I certainly would argue that he was infamous (or famous) for dismissing people like that.

[PianoDan]

I'm not Australian, I live in England, I just hate the English team.

This is why, no one in England gave a crap about cricket when they were getting smashed to peices by Australia, India, Pakistan et al, but now they're good everyone is like omg England are the best because we beat Australia by 2 runs omg.
I'm an Australian, I live in Australia, and I quite like the English team. I hate the fact that the English writers and supporters and some of the commentators are all going on about how good England is, some saying they're only just behind Australia, some even saying that the only difference between them is Warne and McGrath - that's a complete joke. Australia's batting line up grinds England's into the ground on paper. True they're out of form at the moment - Hayden, Ponting in particular, but even some of the others are looking a little less than normal.

But I do like how the English team have lifted themselves up out of the mud over the last few years to become the 2nd best team in the world. Flintoff and Pietersen are exciting young players who aren't afraid to take it to the greatest team in the world. Harmison and Jones are impressive bowlers. Vaughan is a good captain and a good batsman (though terribly out of form). It's exciting to be challenged for once by the Old Enemy.

[Ganondorf]

England are a good team, yes, but they're also mostly in orm at the moment. Come the Cricket World Cup, I think many of my friends who support England will be suprised at how good teams like Sri Lanka and New Zealand are at ODI.

Also, on that note, India vs Sri Lanka in the 'Oil Cup' (India, Sri Lanka, West Indies' final.

Come On India :)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Luckily Vaughn isn't in form also (for me anyway :p), even when England came down under for the ashes in '03, he got the most runs in the series, even though they lost 4-1. He is quality.

[warwickcorvette]

:lol: Learn to reason an argument properly.

sorry it's just we haven't beaten them in a while

[bahamut_ali]

My prediction:

England beats a struggling Australia in the third.
McGrath rejoins in the fourth and the aussies bring it to 2-2.
Aussies take the series on a contraversal Flintoff 'hit wkt'. (poetic justice)

Carn' Aussies! ;)

[Lord Abortion]

The england team is looking good, just the batsmen seem to be stuggling to hit form, bar flintoff and pietersen, trescothick looked good first inning but again, like alot of the players, he got nout with a foolish error in the second, Ian bell should never play for england again...

20 years time, Ian Bell sits down with his children as they beg him to tell them the story of how he got a half-century on his England debut...
"Daddy, so who did you play? was it australia?"
"No..."
"India?"
"No..."
"was it another good team, like new zealand, or the west indies? or South Africa?"
"no..."
"well who was it daddy?...oh it was Zimbabwe?...no need to be embarassed, they are a good side too!"
"erm...no..."
/child looks puzzled
(Bell crying) IT WAS BANGLADESH OK! booohhoohhooo
"who?"

[RCVA]

No it was the West Indies fool. Last summer he got 70 something against them.

[Ganondorf]

sorry it's just we haven't beaten them in a while

Go away, just because England have sucked for the past 15 years or so dosen't mean you have to rag on India.

[Ganondorf]

lol Pakistan vs England is their next test series, my two most hated teams.

[Clunge]

sorry it's just we haven't beaten them in a while
You've got the wrong end of teh stick there my friend.

Anyhoo, England vs. Pakistan should be interesting, I didn't really appreciate cricket se much when we last played Pakistan.

[Ganondorf]

Shoaib Akthar > Harmison I think, I assume Shoaib is the world's fastest bowler.

[Clunge]

Shoaib Akthar > Harmison I think, I assume Shoaib is the world's fastest bowler.
yup, Shoaib can bowl 100mph + , Harmison is good but will be better in a couple more years.

[Lord Abortion]

No it was the West Indies fool. Last summer he got 70 something against them.
Bugger, I stand corrected, it was amusing though right?

Akthar is a great bowler, excellent for us last year
/Durham fan

[RCVA]

Yeah it was amusing.

Shoaib can't stay fit for very long, I reckon England should beat Pakistan. Anyway, Brett Lee's in hospital!

[Ganondorf]

aah, fanboyism at it's best, Pakistan/England should be pretty even.

England need to resort to injuring players to win - lame.

[Lord Abortion]

brett lee is in hospital with a suspected knee infection and thus is doubtful for the third test...
anyone fancy finding where shane warne lives and breaking his fingers with a hammer?

[Ganondorf]

lol

To be fair, it was good of Flintoff to go and congratluate Bret Lee when Kasporwicz's wicket had been taken.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Haha, are you kidding Dhan ?

We will kick Pakistans arse !

[Lord Abortion]

lol

To be fair, it was good of Flintoff to go and congratluate Bret Lee when Kasporwicz's wicket had been taken.
yes, that's what cricket is all about, the australian tail enders were, to be honest, phenomenal, and lee was almost in tears.
good of Freddie to do the gentlemanly thing...

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I can't wait for Thursday :D

[Ganondorf]

Haha, are you kidding Dhan ?

We will kick Pakistans arse !

It's in Pakistan, you have no idea how much atmosphere means in that area of the world. It's like bigger than football is here. And I don't think it's watched in as silent conditions as it is here. Especially to alot of the newer guys, the experience would adversly affect their performance. Also, it's bloody hot down there.

Don't make any mistakes, I'm not singing Pakistan's praises or anything, but Shoaib Akthar and that other guy who got a century against India are very good. I'm not all England hate either, I think Peitersen, Flintoff and Harmison are very good, although people like Giles, Strauss and Hoggard are very overrated.

Also, India WILL beat England when we next play them.

Fun fact: Only four bastmen have ever reached over 10,000 career runs in ODI matches, all Asian:

Izman Al-Huq (or whatever, I don't even know) Pakistan
Jaysuria - Sri Lanka
Ganguly - India
Tendulkar - India

Oh you know.

[Huggy_B<>RHCP]

Does anybody know anything about Stuart Clark? To me he seems preety unknown. I reckon it would have been smarter to choose someone like Shaun Tait.

[Davey Jones]

I don't have a clue about any of them. All I know is Stuart Clark hasn't played international test cricket before, so we should go with Shaun Tait, whoever he is. The Poms are going down no matter though..

[no compromise2]

I dont kno how to play Cricket.

[PianoDan]

I'm not all England hate either, I think Peitersen, Flintoff and Harmison are very good, although people like Giles, Strauss and Hoggard are very overrated.
Hit the nail right in the face.

Also, India WILL beat England when we next play them.
Is that in England or India? If it's in England I'd give England a good chance.

Fun fact: Only four bastmen have ever reached over 10,000 career runs in ODI matches, all Asian:

Izman Al-Huq (or whatever, I don't even know) Pakistan
Jaysuria - Sri Lanka
Ganguly - India
Tendulkar - India
Yeah but that's because the subcontinent teams play so many more ODIs than anyone else. Check their matches played, I'm sure they'd all have hundreds and hundreds, next to much fewer from other players.

Not to say that that those four particular gentlemen aren't very very talented one-day cricketers (and Test cricketers).

[Angry Balled Fists!]

England are doing great so far today, looks like Vaughn is back to form...

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Aussies seem to be having a bad day.

[Untitled]

Tresgothic was so unlucky to get out.

[ThrashMaster27]

Trescothick was so unlucky to get out.

Haha! I'm English, but seeing the way Gilchrist caught that was hilarious. It was almost worth it...

Gilly isn't having the best of days today. Hopefully I don't jinx anything.

[Untitled]

Haha! I'm English, but seeing the way Gilchrist caught that was hilarious. It was almost worth it...

Gilly isn't having the best of days today. Hopefully I don't jinx anything.
Ha ha, off his knee then into his face. Classic.

[ThrashMaster27]

Well done to Vaughan!

A stylish comeback.

[Clunge]

Well done to Vaughan!

A stylish comeback.
Dang, I was about to post that.

Another good 60 for Trescothick as well :)

[scroogey]

Vaughn, you are a legend. I will never doubt you again. a dam good way to respond to any critics out there!

[Untitled]

He's out now. Honestly, with that ball bowled i would of hit it like that too, proberly get caught too though.

[PianoDan]

I thought he'd fail to be honest. 166 proved me very wrong. Australia is amazingly out of form - 6 dropped catches (so say the commentators), and Gillespie is in the worst form I've ever seen him in.

But putting all else aside, I think Shane Warne has to be praised. He may only have 1 wicket, and it may be just 1 more than 599 (and only 1 less than 601), but to take 600 wickets is an amazing achievement and he deserves any praise that goes his way. I'd say he's the best bowler ever, or certainly very close to it. He's certainly one of the best cricketers of all time, one of the sportsmen even. Whatever you say about the man, the cricketer is a genius.

[Untitled]

I thought he'd fail to be honest. 166 proved me very wrong. Australia is amazingly out of form - 6 dropped catches (so say the commentators), and Gillespie is in the worst form I've ever seen him in.

But putting all else aside, I think Shane Warne has to be praised. He may only have 1 wicket, and it may be just 1 more than 599 (and only 1 less than 601), but to take 600 wickets is an amazing achievement and he deserves any praise that goes his way. I'd say he's the best bowler ever, or certainly very close to it. He's certainly one of the best cricketers of all time, one of the sportsmen even. Whatever you say about the man, the cricketer is a genius.
All that said, i hate him, for all the reasons you said. Butttt if he was english, then id have a total different opinion on him :amaze:

[Father_Jack]

Is it just me or does it piss anyone else off when after ever ball that Shane Warne bowls, the Oz wicket-keeper (gilcriste or something), always shouts "Ooooohh Shane" or "Lovely Warney".

Just kinda bothers me, oh and who do you think will will the ashes series?

[RCVA]

"GILE-O" Hahaha i find it amusing. "AWW SHANE"

Australia will win but England are having a damn good shot at it.

[warwickcorvette]

"GILE-O" Hahaha i find it amusing. "AWW SHANE"

Australia will win but England are having a damn good shot at it.
i think england will win

[warwickcorvette]

Is it just me or does it piss anyone else off when after ever ball that Shane Warne bowls, the Oz wicket-keeper (gilcriste or something), always shouts "Ooooohh Shane" or "Lovely Warney".

Just kinda bothers me, oh and who do you think will will the ashes series?

that pisses me off so much to ' good bowling shane '

[Father_Jack]

Its like, he's a great bowler but theres no need for it after every ball, "AAWWW SHANE!"

[dimenwylde22]

Why do we have a official sticky thread for CRICKET how about the MLB.

[Untitled]

Its like, he's a great bowler but theres no need for it after every ball, "AAWWW SHANE!"
That annoys me so much.

[Untitled]

Wow, Jones and Flintoff in a partnership of 72 in just under an hour. Not bad.

[Lord Abortion]

Lunch... hmm...shame jones and flintoff got out but 450 should have us in good stead

[bahamut_ali]

Yep. It's official.

DIZZY GOT A WICKET!!!

:eek:

[Jasarn]

Australia will never fall as the top team! Never! NEVER!

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

f'ucking come on england, you beauty

[Untitled]

What the hell is all this follow on people are goign on about, Aus need 35 runs to not get it or something.

England have played well so far this test, because its in manchester.

[RCVA]

Follow on is when Australia can be forced to bat again, meaning if England bowl them out for less than the target England win by an innings and a certain amount of runs.

Anyway, Australia haven't lost by an innings since 1988 if Channel 4 know their shizz (which they do).

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Bleh, we've got this test done basically.

I doubt we will get them to follow on, but it would be good if we do :D

[Ganondorf]

Channel 4 reffered to when in 2001 or something, England thought they had India 'on toast; and enforced the follow on, and then Laxman and Dravid batted for a whole day, not losing any wickets. India went onto win that series.

Omens ++

(or course, none of the Aussie batsmen measure up to Laxman or Dravid ;))

In truth, the Aussies, however unlucky, don't really deserve to win this test. Pontings batting has been pathetic. The bastmen should be ashamed that Warne has basically been the top scorer the last two innings, they need to really start pulling thier weight.

Gillespie points to the commentry box

some old man English cricketer who is commentating - I dunno what he's signalling for, If I'd given more than 100 runs away for one wicket, I wouldn't be signalling to anyone :lol:

(come on you AUSSIES!!!!!)

[Father_Jack]

Did anyone see what the hell was going on with that old man messing around behind the sight screen? Wtf? :lol:

[Untitled]

Bah, trust manchester to stop a whole days play, apart from however long they played for.

[Ganondorf]

Aren't you talking about the Australia/India series in 2001 (maybe 2002), where the Aussies won the 1st Test by an innings, enforced the follow on in the 2nd, and then lost? Laxman and Dravid batted through a whole day in that, which was amazing. But yeah, Australia are simply malfunctioning at the moment. Warne is their best bowler and their best batsman, which is humiliating, and players like Gillespie, Martyn and Gilchrist all seem very out of form to me. If we don't win this Test, and take a 2-1 lead :eek: then I'll be very surprised.


Yeah, may have been Australia.

Basically the whole Aussie team's out of form. McGrath's stats for this match don't really reflect the quality of his bowling though. Many of his chances were dropped (once by himself even). Hodge's catch of Vaughan was good though.

[RCVA]

Hahaha Geriant Jones' innings, 27 off 12 balls.

Old Vaughny was getting a bit of turn as well.

[Ganondorf]

The runs aren't a factor for the Aussies, it's if they can survive a whole day of play.

rainlololol

[Lord Abortion]

yeah, if we bowl them all out, we win
if it rains or we don't it's a draw

there is NO likelyhood of an australian win by getting 420 in one day

[Ganondorf]

If they did, about 3 of them would have to give the innings of their careers.

[Lord Abortion]

If they did, about 3 of them would have to give the innings of their careers.
no chance, certainly how poorly the top order have done this series

[warwickcorvette]

the bowlers holding, the batsmans willy
does anyone remember that?

[Ganondorf]

Yeah...400 in a day is surprising at any time. Given that if Clarke has to bat he can't really at the moment, and Australia's current forum batsman is Shane Warne I really can't see them getting close to winning, although they could plausibly get a draw. I know rain's saved us loads of times, but basically losing Day 3 is so annoying. :( Good innings from Strauss today, and it was good to see Bell make another 50. I still think we should have played Thorpe, but he's had a good game. We need to get 2 early wickets tomorrow, and that should shake the Aussies up a bit.

lol, heavy rain for the rest of the day when the Aussies only have like 2 wickets left will make me piss my pants.

[Ganondorf]

Also, be sure the Aussies will be playing for time, with bad light coming into the equation towards the end of the day.

[snoogans]

it would be lucky if the aussies could win from here. 1st goal was not to lose wicket by the end of day 4.
i think gilchrist should come in at number 3 and go for it. hammer and tongs. if he gets out then the aussies should play for the draw.

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, my grandad was raving about how the Aussies still had a chance as long as Gillchrist was in.

[Ganondorf]

"India have a busy calendar ahead with scheduled home series against Sri Lanka, South Africa and England and tours to Pakistan and the West Indies during the next nine months."

Woot, India > All those teams

[Lord Abortion]

And Hayden is out
99-2

[scroogey]

looks like being a draw at this rate though

[Ganondorf]

Lunch Break WOOOOOO

[Lord Abortion]

Martyn is gone
3 down

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

england have got to win this game. f'ucking come one

[Lord Abortion]

no I don't think so...England have 3 and a half hours to take 5 wickets
shouldn't be difficult

[Apocalyptic Raids]

24 balls..... 1 wicket

*tension*

[Lord Abortion]

24 balls..... 1 wicket

*tension*
this may be the most tense sporting thing I've ever seen

[Untitled]

12 balls, 1 wicket. CRAP.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

FINAL OVER


omgomgomg

[Untitled]

HA ha ha.
English fans are now chearing for the aus 4's cause mcgraph is on strike, brillence.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

DRAW

/grabs get out of jail free card :P

[Lord Abortion]

bollocks...

piss poor final over from harmison, he really could have bowled much better there

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

gutted

[Untitled]

Fukety.

/points fingure at James.

ITS HIS FAULT LADS, Ged Him....

:)

[Ganondorf]

lololol

C O M E O N

[FisMits]

Oh dear pommys

[The Jolly Pakistani]

I miss cricket so much.:upset:. I don't think I've seen a game since I moved to Canada.

[FisMits]

Actually I'd like to thank both the Aussie and English teams for intriducing me to such a good game of cricket.

[RCVA]

Oh ****. Can't those cunts let us win this series? Jeezus. Harmison was disappointing. Flintoff was unlucky. Ponting was brilliant.

[FisMits]

Ponting was excellent. I thought this Gillespie guy was meant to be good? What's the deal with that?

[Ganondorf]

Ponting was excellent. I thought this Gillespie guy was meant to be good? What's the deal with that?

I think he's just out of form at the moment.

[FisMits]

From what I saw Warne and McGrath are quite good, but then i don't know a whole lot about the technical side of cricket.

[Wintermute]

Gillespie was a great bowler when he was a little younger. He's not really a batsman.

I just got back from Old Trafford - snapped up the chance to go along for the last day. 20,000 people were turned away from the doors, and more were stopped in town by police and told not to bother.

I'm exhausted now - there was real tension for about 10 straight hours...

[Wintermute]

I think we got there at about 8am... had to get up at 6. The queues were insane - tripled back along the same stretch of pavement at points. It's amazing people kept to their lines, and didn't try to cut in. But then, as one of the policemen supervising things commented "It's a cricket crowd, not a football crowd."

He was right, the atmosphere was pretty friendly. Even though there were only a few pockets of Aussies, there was a lot of applause when Ponting made his century. Yes, it was against us, but it was very well done.

My right cheek is sunburnt, but my left isn't... :lol:

[warwickcorvette]

if only there wasnn't that day of rain

[Ganondorf]

If's mean nothing, IF Australia hadn't dropped all those chances earlier on.

I think the populairty of the game is brilliant, although the idiots in the crowd who kept getting all excited when the ball was in the air after it had hit the ground was kinda annoying. Also the booing of Hayden and Langer at the start when they came out was kinda uncalled for, but overall it seemed like a great atmosphere (apart from the tension towards the end ;))

[Lord Abortion]

...
Gillespie is out of form, badly, he is only in the team 'cause he looks cooler than all the other Aussies.

and we should have got warne out earlier...

[snoogans]

well done ricky, a great captains knock. bad luck to the poms, they really deserved the win. but you have to remember the aussies are the world champions, and beating them in a test match is never going to be easy.

in another note....i heard they had to turn away 20 000 people from the ground. is it me or do all the english cricket grounds only hold a maximum of 30 000 people. a bit disappointing to see the best two cricket teams in the world do battle and only a handful of people get to see it.

[FisMits]

So this Kevin Peiterson, I've heard booming praise of him but today I saw him "drop the Ashes" so to speak :-/ I guess he bats better than he catches.

[Ganondorf]

He's a good batter.

[Wintermute]

in another note....i heard they had to turn away 20 000 people from the ground. is it me or do all the english cricket grounds only hold a maximum of 30 000 people. a bit disappointing to see the best two cricket teams in the world do battle and only a handful of people get to see it.

I think Old Trafford is one of the smaller venues. It's really a county cricket stadium. Hence why it's also called Lancashire County Cricket Club. It does only hold 20-odd thousand people seated.

But then, it's not very often full. All the way through the commentators were aghast at how full the stadium was and how many people were there...

Remember that the test matches take five days, most of it during the working week. LOADS of people listen on the radio, watch on TV, and watch the internet for updates, but not many people can actually make it to the real thing. It's not like a football match where you can turn up for 90 minutes on a Saturday and go home again.

[Lord Abortion]

Pietersen is a great batsman, but he can't catch to save his life

[FisMits]

I noticed that, and it seemed to be a vital catch. Then there was THAT slide to try and save the boundary for 4 :lol: Nearly injured himself.

[RCVA]

The funny thing is that, though his mum is English, there's almost nothing English about him. He's inherited the English "catching gene" though.

[Ganondorf]

Isn't he 'really' a South African?

[PianoDan]

Most exciting draw I've ever seen.

Great to see Ponting find some form, too.

Australia will win from here. England should have won that Test, and they needed to to win the Ashes back (even though I'd still have bet Australia at least drawing and retaining the Ashes that way).

[Wintermute]

At the moment we've won one, lost one, and drawn one. In the event of an overall draw, the Australians keep the ashes by default. We need to win one and draw one at the very least now - if the Australians win another we can't have the ashes this time round.

It's still perfectly possible for us to win, but it'll be tough.

[Ganondorf]

Ian Botham's column in the Mirror was so stupid. He said something along the lines of 'England ar the only team in the world who can compete with the Aussies'

If 'compete' means barely win and draw to a badly out of form side, then he is correct.

Seriously, that pissed me of no end and just summed up WHY I want the Aussies to win, to shut up all the cocky England fans I know. Seriously, this is basically saying the top sides in the world such as India, Pakistan and South Africa have no chance against the Aussie side that lost to England at Edgebaston, which is just plain idiocy.

[Lord Abortion]

well England are much better than south africa as the last series showed
the england- india and england-pakistan matches will be ...interesting though

[Ganondorf]

seriously, at this point in time I'd be happy if Pakistan beat England.

[OasisFanNo1]

I dont know if anyone has voiced their concerns about this but I reckon England seriously needs a new wicket keeper. we cant afford to keep losin chances like that. He has had quite a few drop catches throughout the entire Ashes and his skill isn't wot i would call impressive....

[Grondahl]

I dont know if anyone has voiced their concerns about this but I reckon England seriously needs a new wicket keeper. we cant afford to keep losin chances like that. He has had quite a few drop catches throughout the entire Ashes and his skill isn't wot i would call impressive....

Who would you pick instead? Jones is technically a decent keeper, with some good reflexes (see: his catch to take Warne's wicket in the Aussie 2nd innings), but his concentration isn't always there. He's the David James of the England cricket side.

[PianoDan]

Ian Botham's column in the Mirror was so stupid. He said something along the lines of 'England ar the only team in the world who can compete with the Aussies'

If 'compete' means barely win and draw to a badly out of form side, then he is correct.

Seriously, that pissed me of no end and just summed up WHY I want the Aussies to win, to shut up all the cocky England fans I know. Seriously, this is basically saying the top sides in the world such as India, Pakistan and South Africa have no chance against the Aussie side that lost to England at Edgebaston, which is just plain idiocy.
I completely agree.

Ian Botham was a great cricketer but he never says anything worth listening to.

Some of the England supporters/commentators/journalists are so cocky, yeah. One even said that on paper the only difference between the sides is Warne and McGrath... come on...

I dont know if anyone has voiced their concerns about this but I reckon England seriously needs a new wicket keeper. we cant afford to keep losin chances like that. He has had quite a few drop catches throughout the entire Ashes and his skill isn't wot i would call impressive....
Apart from that brilliant reflex catch that ricocheted of Strauss (who should have taken it, it was a dolly), and apart from a cameo appearance with the bat once or maybe twice, Jones is hopeless. He has promise as a 'keeper/batsman but his keeping is pathetic.

Though, Gilly had an awful 3rd Test as well, and he's been out of form with the bat too. But he is a proven champion.

[Ganondorf]

Anyone think Jones could be the next Gilchrist?

Saying that, Gilchrist dropped a few last Test....

[Ganondorf]

African XI vs Asian XI on at the moment, ODI.

Umpires: S J Davis, B Doctrove
Africa XI: H H Dippenaar, A B de Villiers, J H Kallis, J L Ontong, A G Prince, S O Tikolo, M V Boucher, S M Pollock, N Boje, T M Odoyo, D W Steyn
Asia XI: V Sehwag, K C Sangakkara, Yousuf Youhana, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Shahid Afridi, Abdul Razzaq, A Kumble, Z Khan, Shoaib Akhtar, M Muralitharan, A Nehra


Both sides missing some talent, but hey, it's only a bit of fun.

[snoogans]

Yeah, he's South African but qualified for England due to the highly dubious residency rule.



Yeah, Australia are favourites from here...as usual in this series the next few sessions are vital...if we let the Aussies get on top in the next Test then I can see our heads going down and Australia reasserting themselves. Having said that, they are still mostly out of form, and their current deficencies probably won't be completely fixed by then. If we carry on playing the way that we have been then I don't see any reason why we can't go on and win the series.

i agree that if england continue to play as they have done, then they should win the ashes. but england should of won the third test, that was there opportunity to take the lead. australia are the world champions and they dont give many opportunities to opposing sides. england had the chance but they didnt take it.

[Ganondorf]

If McGrath and Warne were injured I'd be willing to be on England winning the series...MacGill would be a good replacement for Warne, but I don't think Australia have anyone who can replace McGrath. Apart from anything else that level of experience really can't be replaced.
.

You could say that about any team. You could just as easily say that if Vaughan and Simon Jones weren't playig the last test the Aussies would've won. You can say that for any team in any sport, if the best or most integral pl;ayers aren't there, of course the other team stands a better chance.

In other news, Africa XI 198 beat Asia XI 196 by 2 runs. :(

[Nightvision]

Jones has for the most part been a very reliable 'keeper who is more than capable of chipping in with the bat.

All that's happening is that he's going through a bad patch of form... we all drop catches occasionally, and if you drop a couple, it plays on your mind. Anyone who calls him hopeless as a wicketkeeper is talking out of their rear end.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

He really hasn't been that reliable at all since coming into the team, he's dropped a number of catches that clould've proved more crucial than some have. However his batting is impressive, and catches like the one to dismiss Warne shows that he has the capacity to become a great keeper and i support his selection

[Ganondorf]

He's not too bad, I mean Gilchrist dropped some and fluffed up some chances but no one's screaming for him to be replaced, and quite rightly so.

[Repor_Siwel]

chis read is a far better keeper than jones is. theres a reason why he couldnt crack it into the QLD 2nd xi, hence why he went to pommyland. having said that read is not really that good a bat and jones looks like a decent bat. i think the poms are trying to replace stewart, but there not gonig to find one lol

[Ganondorf]

http://www.createphpbb.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=cricket

Good cricket forum, check it out. If we can get as many guys on there as possible it would be cool :)

[Ganondorf]

India would crush England without Harmison and Flintoff :lol:

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

England would crush India without Dravid and Kumble. It's a senseless argument

[RCVA]

C&G! ON TV! OMG.

[Ganondorf]

England would crush India without Dravid and Kumble. It's a senseless argument


I know, I agree, I was just saying that because Med thought England would beat India even if Harmison and Flintoff were out. Infact, someone else was pulling a similar thing earlier and I explained to them why it was senseless :)

[Davey Jones]

Just wondering if anybody knew of a song about David Boon. I heard this song once and it all it did was sing about boonie. Does anyone know what this song is?

:Aussies for ashes victory:

[RCVA]

Is Shaun Tait good?

[Ganondorf]

Dunno, better be.

[Davey Jones]

he knocked a pommy out in the tour match

[RCVA]

I've heard that they're gonna use Kasprowicz.

[Ganondorf]

****, he's boring.

[snoogans]

just heard they selected tait. and theres injury cloud over mcgrath as well. so looks like it will be lee, tait and kaspo.

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, Tait is in atm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/australia/4175648.stm

[snoogans]

can the poms handle the pace of lee and tait????? most of the signs point to yes. can they handle warnes spin????? maybe....

[Ganondorf]

I'm backing Tait to impress

[RCVA]

Groundsman said that the pitch should be unresponsive to spin...but Warne's a magician so i reckon that he'll do alright.

[snoogans]

Groundsman said that the pitch should be unresponsive to spin...but Warne's a magician so i reckon that he'll do alright.

warne had a go at the groundsman regarding the pitch. but like you said warne is a magician and he can spin it off anything.
also heard that mcgrath could still play....if thats the case line up would be mcgrath, lee and tait.

[StandingStill]

Warne just got a wicket anyways. But all the Aussie quicks look shakey

[Untitled]

Wow, Aussies are bowling people out on no balls again. 18 no balls in this session. Just started raining too.

[Ganondorf]

As opposed to England, the ultimate hypocrites, the nation who called the Pakistani's cheaters for getting the ball to swing after 50 overs, but now that Flintoff and Jones are doing if after 2o overs it's perfectly legal....

[Untitled]

Its not the legality, its the skill :cool:

[IAJP]

Just when we begin to regain form, the Aussie's best friend comes in.

The rain. :rolleyes:

[Ganondorf]

Just when we begin to regain form, the Aussie's best friend comes in.

The rain. :rolleyes:


Shut up. You act as though England are the best team in the world ever. And no one's exactly getting much out of the rain anyway, the Aussies haven't even batted yet, so you can't say they're on the back foot. Go back to watching football or something.

[Untitled]

Shut up. You act as though England are the best team in the world ever. And no one's exactly getting much out of the rain anyway, the Aussies haven't even batted yet, so you can't say they're on the back foot. Go back to watching football or something.
You talk like england are the worse team in the world.

Tresgothic bowled out by tiat or whatever he's called, t'was a good whicket.

[Ganondorf]

How did I? The fact is that It's still the first innings, so the rain is hardly to anyone's advantage.

[Untitled]

Ponting gets Vaughan, i honestly thaught he wouldnt do to much. what is it, 5 test match wickhets he has now or something.

[Ganondorf]

Er...we were on top when the rain came, meaning that the rain, broadly speaking, helps Australia. That's just generally accepted, as if a side is dominating and there's a break in play, it's hardly likely to help them. Admittedly the effect was diminished as the lunchbreak just got elongated, but you really need to relax a bit man...we all get that you don't like the England team and think that they're overrated, but not everyone who replies disagreeing with you thinks that they're the best side of all time.



1. Wet outfield helps the ball to take of and makes boundires easier.
2. Wet ball makes Warn'es spin bowling more difficult.
3. The match is hardly in a state where any of the sides are desperate for runs, and I'm sure the Aussies would rather win this than draw, seeng as if they win they retain The Ashes.

Overall, I wouldn't say any side had any significant advantage from the rain, and therefore I don't see how some random guy siggesting the Aussies need rain to keep a test match alive is anything more than just plain idiocy.

:)

[Ganondorf]

Ponting gets Vaughan, i honestly thaught he wouldnt do to much. what is it, 5 test match wickhets he has now or something.

Yeah, I thougt Ponting was using himself to restrict the runs as opposed to actually taking wickets.

[IAJP]

Shut up. You act as though England are the best team in the world ever. And no one's exactly getting much out of the rain anyway, the Aussies haven't even batted yet, so you can't say they're on the back foot. Go back to watching football or something.
Congratulations, you are currently living up to the English stereotype that we can't accept sporting success.

[snoogans]

Just when we begin to regain form, the Aussie's best friend comes in.

The rain. :rolleyes:

the rain....the aussies best friend???? what a load of crap. australia have never had to rely on the rain to help a situation or get back into a game.

anyway, well done to tait for 2 wickets on the first day. one thing ive noticed about australia, that you dont often see, is the no balls and the drop catches.

[Ganondorf]

Congratulations, you are currently living up to the English stereotype that we can't accept sporting success.

I'm supporting the Aussies you plank, and if you think the Aussies don't have the quality to get a result without rain you evidently only got int ocricket a few weeks ago :)

Also, New Zealand vs India one day score at the moment :D

New Zealand - 13 for 3 (6.0 overs)

[Ganondorf]

Oh look at the score now

37 for 5 (13.0 overs)

[Ganondorf]

Now it's

152 for 7 (34.0 overs)

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, down here in Surrey it's pretty crap weather wise.

India lost to NZ by 51 runs, we threw our good work in the feild away :(

[Interstate]

England are currently kicking butt at Trent Bridge. Australia are 22-3 :lol:

[sketchyjoe]

A great batting performane and a great start to the bowling.

We kick arse.

[Ganondorf]

:upset:

That is all. Rain plz.

[sketchyjoe]

We were a bit lucky on some of those wickets though.

[Interstate]

We were a bit lucky on some of those wickets though.

The 3rd wicket was very close to call, I think the umpire got it wrong personally.

[sketchyjoe]

I didn't think either of them were.



EDIT: They've just confirmed it. Neither of them were out. That's the way it goes sometimes.

[sketchyjoe]

99/5

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, the AUssies ****ed up, I'll admit that.

I can't see them winning this one now, and at best they'll draw at The Oval due to horrific weather. So basically England win The Ashes 2-1.

But, England needs to win Ashes and then beat Pakistan and India at home to even think about treated as the best.

[FisMits]

Australia are messed royally. I turned it off at 26-3, absolutely shocking. Fair play to England though, they have some class bowlers.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

WOW, what a day !

[StandingStill]

England would of had to of won all five matches to move above Australia in the ICC world rankings, so Australia will be top whatever happens. I personally will consider England the best team if we topple the Aussies. But it will take convincing victories against the other top teams to prove themselves to people without my blind optimism. I just dont see a weakness in the bowling attack right now.

[Mr. Black]

167 - 8

great catch from Strauss,

**** you Gilchrist

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Oh yes, What a catch by Strauss !!! :D

Edit - Beaten :D

Wow, surely we are n the way to winning the ashes, i can't see the winning the 5th test at all.

[Lord Abortion]

that catch...wow

India and pakistan, as Med said, struggle with getting pace bowlers
I can't see their bowling being too great on English pitches...

[Mr. Black]

175 - 9

Bye Kazpowics (sp)

**** they ain't even gonna make 200

[MILF Hunter]

We have made them follow on

[RCVA]

What a run out.

[Lord Abortion]

What a run out.
having seen durham a few times I know how bloody good Pratt is

[Untitled]

Pratt is a darn quick feilder.

I think england are pretty well set up for tomorrow now, i cant remember the score 222-4 or something but there still trailing so you know, alls looking good.

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, it's confusing how they had more trouble with Bret Lee than with people like Ponting and Martyn :confused:

IMO, Jone is probably the best English bowler at the moment...

[Lord Abortion]

They really don't seem to be able to deal with Jones' reverse swing...

[Ganondorf]

Damn it, I concede defeat to a brilliant English team. Bring on the tour of the sub-continent!

[Mr. Black]

They really don't seem to be able to deal with Jones' reverse swing...

But Jones has hurt himself

[Ganondorf]

btw everyone, check this out, the greatest scorecard ever

http://www.cricmania.com/cricket/DB/card/user/us03/game/T1535

Only the second side to ever win after being made to follow on :)

[SoleFactionBassist]

Yeah but Laxman and Dravid are just freaks when they get going.

And as for Jones his reverse swing does have the aussie boys falling over themselves and that spell by flintoff to Hayden last test was awesome. You Englishmen have a great bowling line up.

[FisMits]

What a bloody catch!

[RCVA]

Oh ****.

[warwickcorvette]

63/4 not looking to good at the moment

[Bad Blood]

Bloody hell, this is going to be close.

Edit: Maybe not, we have 40 more to get with 6 left to bat.

We should easily get it.

[Bad Blood]

Man, the Aussies are bowling well...

[sketchyjoe]

****. We need 12 off the tail-enders.



How do England teams always do this us?

[Untitled]

Hey, at least it makes the games better to watch.....

Unfortunatly :(

10 to win

[poorquality]

Really close, but we should get 10 runs easily with our last 3, that no ball helped :)

[FisMits]

Lee is a class bowler.

[sketchyjoe]

Only four to go.

[Untitled]

That last four has made me feel a lot better now, insted of geting the odd 1 or 2.

[Mr. Black]

Are England batting now??

[Untitled]

No, they just won.....

We only need a draw next game, should be fun to watch :cool:

[FisMits]

Warne and Lee are classic bowlers, they should be proud of their performance.

[Lord Abortion]

anothor incredible test match...surely this is the greatest ashes series of all time?

you have to give the Aussie bowlers credit, Lee's ball to dismiss flintoff was one of the best balls of the series, possibly I have ever seen

[Bad Blood]

If the Aussies bowled like that throughout both inning, we would have lost.

[Ganondorf]

As an Aussie supporter for this seires, I have to say well done to England, who outplayed the Aussies all the way to the final innings where they were about equal, although the Aussies set a far too low target for the England team. Hopefull The Oval has decent enough weather (can't see that happening), and Australia give the kind of performance of the last innings all the way through the match.

ps - Bret Lee's delivery to dismiss Flintoff and the suibsequent celebration were awe-inspiring. Pure pace, basically because Flintoff played the ball correctly, but the ball had already smashed his stumps when he made the movement.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Wow, an awesome game, i thought we were going to lose it, our tail end are really poor.

[Lord Abortion]

Ian Bell is ****

sorry, had to say it but he is

[MILF Hunter]

I would have put Collingwood, and maybe Solanki in the team before Bell

[Lord Abortion]

I would have put Collingwood, and maybe Solanki in the team before Bell
and plus...solanki can spinbowl

[Untitled]

Ian Bell is ****

sorry, had to say it but he is
He's took some good catchs this series, he's good at silly point, or square leg, i forget the names. But bowling he's pretty average and same with batting. He's still quiet new to the team though so id say leave him be for now.

[StandingStill]

We have to have a batsmen like Bell in the team. While he hasnt proven himself yet, he has had a few decent knocks against one of the best teams of all time and it would be stupid to change a proven winning team at this point. Also does anyone really want a middle order that looks like this?

Pietersen
Flintoff
Collingwood
Jones

Who out of that lot will sit out and hold an innings together if we lose early wickets?

[Lord Abortion]

Bell is a good fielder, but he didn't have a few decent knocks
for a top order batsman he has been very poor

he has been bowled out for little score in all of his innings except his 2 at old trafford

[snoogans]

As an Aussie supporter for this seires, I have to say well done to England, who outplayed the Aussies all the way to the final innings where they were about equal, although the Aussies set a far too low target for the England team. Hopefull The Oval has decent enough weather (can't see that happening), and Australia give the kind of performance of the last innings all the way through the match.

ps - Bret Lee's delivery to dismiss Flintoff and the suibsequent celebration were awe-inspiring. Pure pace, basically because Flintoff played the ball correctly, but the ball had already smashed his stumps when he made the movement.


as an aussie supporter as well...well done to the poms for the win. again it didnt come easy and it went down to the wire.
to brett lee and warne...congrats. on a great game. both these guys did it with the bat and bowl. i was up until 1:30am hoping the aussies could pull it off, but in the end it wasnt to be.
and brett lees delivery was a bloody ripper. i could almost feel something was going to happen. this series had so many twists and turns

[Ganondorf]

We have to have a batsmen like Bell in the team. While he hasnt proven himself yet, he has had a few decent knocks against one of the best teams of all time and it would be stupid to change a proven winning team at this point. Also does anyone really want a middle order that looks like this?

Pietersen
Flintoff
Collingwood
Jones

Who out of that lot will sit out and hold an innings together if we lose early wickets?

Yeah, he's supposed to be there for a long time rather than scoring as quickly as possible, like the English equivalent of Rahul Dravid.

I would say there's a better feeling round both the supporters and players now, they all seem to have more of a sense of respect for each other, for the Aussies because they realise England are actually good and that them being outplayed actually came to something this time, and for England who in all honesty probably did think the run chase would've been easier than it was.

[Ganondorf]

and plus...solanki can spinbowl

They may play him in India and Pakistan then....

[StandingStill]

Bell didn't play well in the first test, neither did anybody else. He got a valuable 21 in the 2nd, when Shane Warne was on fire. In the third, he scored two classy 50s. I think hes just a nervy player, I'd play him at number 3 and Vaughan at 4. Tres+Strauss have been getting off to decent starts and perhaps that could ease some of the pressure on him when he comes in to bat. Who would we replace him with anyway? Solanki is completely unproven at test level, and lets not even mention Robert 'ate all the pies' Key.

[Ganondorf]

He's only fat because everytime he ****s your Mum she gives him a biscuit ;)

/McGrath 'biscuit job'

[StandingStill]

Cept Rob Key didnt say that :rolleyes: ...
Glen McGrath: "Why are you so fat"
Eddo Branes: "Because every time I make love to your wife, she gives me a biscuit."

Even better than that though is when McGrath said to Sarwan 'So what does Brian Lara's dick taste like?' and he replied 'I don't know, ask your wife'

[Untitled]

Does anyone have the New brian lara cricket 2005 game, or EA cricket 2005. I have no idea which i should get, and i want one of them :(

Has anyone seen the hair loss/growth advert too, it has wharny on it, with ian bothem too, i think its him, it made me laugh. :lol:

[sketchyjoe]

Does anyone have the New brian lara cricket 2005 game, or EA cricket 2005. I have no idea which i should get, and i want one of them :(

Has anyone seen the hair loss/growth advert too, it has wharny on it, with ian bothem too, i think its him, it made me laugh. :lol:
I think it's Graham Gooch. That advert is hilariously bad.

[Ganondorf]

Cept Rob Key didnt say that :rolleyes: ...
Glen McGrath: "Why are you so fat"
Eddo Branes: "Because every time I make love to your wife, she gives me a biscuit."

Even better than that though is when McGrath said to Sarwan 'So what does Brian Lara's dick taste like?' and he replied 'I don't know, ask your wife'

I know Robert Key didn't sayhat, the quote just seemed to suit the situation.

It's pretty disrespectfull how some newspapers eg The Mirror are regarding The Ashes as equal to the football and rubgy world cup's, it's like they forgot there are 8 other Test playing nations or something....