Official Cricket Thread

[Maveryck]

Nevermind.

Pakistan got up, but Lara put in a good, but short innings. And Shoiab might be out for the rest of the tour, he did a hamstring.


Ouch.

For him, but mainly for Pakistan.

[Creedence Clearwater]

Nevermind.

Pakistan got up, but Lara put in a good, but short innings. And Shoiab might be out for the rest of the tour, he did a hamstring.

I think it is fair to say that Aktar is the last fast bowler I would want I my team.

[Grey Incision]

I think it is fair to say that Aktar is the last fast bowler I would want I my team.

what about shane bond? he had the best record and average of any fast bowler today, yet, he has been out of the game for about 2 and a half years.

[G_Mac07]

^ Yes but Shoaib's performances have seemed somewhat lathargic(sp?)/lazy lately. I would prefer a bowler who will give 100% whenever they can, than someone who only gets really into the game half of the time.

[Stevie]

Sorry, I've been meaning to ask this about cricket:

I always see those huge white boards on the sides of cricket grounds...What the **** are they for?

[Maveryck]

Sorry, I've been meaning to ask this about cricket:

I always see those huge white boards on the sides of cricket grounds...What the **** are they for?


They're sight-screens, and they help the batsman see the ball.

Having a plain white board in the background makes it much easier for the batsman see the red cricket ball, as opposed to having a multi-coloured crowd with people moving around in the background.

They're at both ends, because the ball is bowled from alternating ends (it alternates each over). You may or may not have known that.

[Stevie]

They're sight-screens, and they help the batsman see the ball.

Having a plain white board in the background makes it much easier for the batsman see the red cricket ball, as opposed to having a multi-coloured crowd with people moving around in the background.

They're at both ends, because the ball is bowled from alternating ends (it alternates each over). You may or may not have known that.

Thank you :)

[Jace The Bass]

one more day then the Black caps take on a world XI I just hope they make a good game of it although it is for a good cause

[Grey Incision]

bah, windies were robbed, poor b*stards

[Jace The Bass]

Yeah I agree with you grey although the weather had a part still when you're winning luck seems to be with them also
Bloody mongrel rain LoL

[Ganondorf]

I want SA to win, just to stick it to all the England fans at my school who think India are crap.

[Grey Incision]

dammit, i really wanted to see west indies get up

[Adam Jones is GOD]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4198153.stm

That, ladies and gentlemen, is why I love Andy Flintoff. He's injured, and probably shouldn't be playing, but in one day, and especially given the pitch, if the rain holds off, he's given us a really good shot at winning this test, and making the series a decisive England victory. He's been having a bad time with the bat this series, but the guy just has so much heart that it's untrue. At the very least, assuming the weather continues, we should be guaranteed a draw now, which would still give us a very rare series win in South Africa. He needs to have surgery now though. It'll be a shame to lose him for the ODIs, but he's so important to the team that it's just got to be done, as jeopardising his long term future would be a disaster.

Could be bigger concerns, remember his last injury? it was suppose to clear up in 6 weeks after surgery. Instead it took him 10 months, and misse dthe last ashes. Lets pray that doesn't occur again.

Harmison deserves one mighty pat on the back too for recovering his form on the last day, to show even when injured, he can still produce some unplayable deliveries

[G_Mac07]

dammit, i really wanted to see west indies get up

They deserved to. The Aussie top order were pretty disgraceful really. Unfortunately the Windies couldn't capitalise on it.

And I hear you Brit's had a win, you seem to be shaping up alright for the ashes later this year. It shall be interesting...

[woodsinho]

Could be bigger concerns, remember his last injury? it was suppose to clear up in 6 weeks after surgery. Instead it took him 10 months, and misse dthe last ashes. Lets pray that doesn't occur again.

Harmison deserves one mighty pat on the back too for recovering his form on the last day, to show even when injured, he can still produce some unplayable deliveries

I've heard reports on the radio saying that he shouldn't be back before the end of june or july (i forget which) after this surgery, shame in the short term but hopefully it'll give someone a chance for someone else to prove their worth perhaps paul collingwood. Although he should be in the one day team anyway.

[Sgt._Joker]

is any one of the opinion (like me) that australia is too good and rnt fun to watch anymore?

i am an aussie, n i am just getting sick of australia winning almost every game, West Indies came close but it got f-ing rained out!!! argh!

so yer, is Australia to good?

[G_Mac07]

There are a number of Aussies who are currently in a form slump, Matthew Hayden and Andrew Symonds in particular. Australia does however have numerous replacement options, that would not jeopardise the teams winning ability. As for Australia being too good, the notion of that is ridiculous. Should they not play to their potential, in order to give other teams a chance, or make an exciting game? If they did the would lose all meaning. The only way matches against Australia will become more exciting is if the challengers make it exciting.

[Sgt._Joker]

yer soz i didnt mean to emply that they shouldnt try as hard, i just mean, the challengers arnt matching the aussies atm and its not fun to watch aussie vs any one else because australia is "too good" and just thrash every1, although by the sounds of things england r doing well n might put up a good fight

[G_Mac07]

Yeah I'm looking foward to the Ashes, it's just that I think the rest of the world should stop saying how good the Aussies are, and become that good themselves. Anyway, The West Indies demolished Pakistan today, with Brian Lara leading the way. He made a fairly quick 156 and the Windies were pretty good in the field.

[Jace The Bass]

Not before the Black caps have a go at them before the ashes in a one-day tourney coming up soon but seriously our test team suxs but am lookin forward to the one-day matches

[Sgt._Joker]

Yeah I'm looking foward to the Ashes, it's just that I think the rest of the world should stop saying how good the Aussies are, and become that good themselves. Anyway, The West Indies demolished Pakistan today, with Brian Lara leading the way. He made a fairly quick 156 and the Windies were pretty good in the field.

West Indies= My fav team, brian lara's innings f-ing owned,

i want to see chris gayle do well, he is the West Indies equivelent of Adam Gilchrist

[Grey Incision]

i think the black caps are a good match for the aussies in the 1 day form of the game, in test, no, but in the 1 day form, oh yeah, us blak caps can give you aussies a run for ya money:cool: -to Gmac and the other aussie dude

[Jace The Bass]

is any one of the opinion (like me) that australia is too good and rnt fun to watch anymore?

i am an aussie, n i am just getting sick of australia winning almost every game, West Indies came close but it got f-ing rained out!!! argh!

so yer, is Australia to good?
Ahh The commentater's curse :lol:
But still the aussies are still good and should win the series maybe they just had a off day against pakistan
I was surprised they left out Lehman IMO I think they missed him he's one of those players that can either get bonus runs as well as the odd wickets or two

[G_Mac07]

Australia got the wake up call they needed from the Paki's tonight. Australia was in a very commanding position, and then the Pakistan middle order put in a great effort. I'm calling for Matthew Hayden to be dropped down the order, and Micheal Clarke should be given a chance at opening. He could do no worse than Hayden this series.

And to Grey Incision, I do think the Black caps could give us a run for our money, and I'd actually like to see Australia get served up (again). Daniel Vettori and Chris Cairns have seemed pretty impressive the last few times I've heard anything about NZ. Although, I do agree, your test side does not compare to ours.

[Electric Riley]

Matthew Hayden needs to be dropped altogether. Bloody hopeless.

Give Matt a bat my arse.

[Jace The Bass]

Matthew Hayden needs to be dropped altogether. Bloody hopeless.

Give Matt a bat my arse.
True I would put Lehman instead of him

Gilchrist
Clarke
Ponting
Martin
Symonds ( his sharp fielding is saving his place )
Lehman
Hogg
Lee
Gillespie
Mcgrath
One more to be added perhaps a batsman pity warney was retired

[G_Mac07]

True I would put Lehman instead of him

Gilchrist
Clarke
Ponting
Martin
Symonds ( his sharp fielding is saving his place )
Lehman

Symonds bowled a terrible spell the other day and let Pakistan back in with a chance, which they capitalised on. Although I do agree he has been superb in the field, and is great for quick runs when he is in form.

[opeth_oasis]

poor andy symonds hasn't had the best summer, so many ducks, but hes a great player when in good form. I agree with Grey that the black caps could give us Aussies a run for our money, Stephen Fleming put on a great show with that century against the World XI, i think it was the 3rd or something fastest century in ODI history. I think that an In-Form South African team could give us a bit of a rattling, Jacques Kallis is a fantastic player and can win a match if not stopped.

[Electric Riley]

Clarke deserved the award, fo' sure.

Discuss.

[opeth_oasis]

i was surprised he got it, but i think he truely deserves it. He's one of the greatest young talents ever.

[Jace The Bass]

Is this award counted through the whole summer or is it just through the VB series?

[G_Mac07]

I thought it was a yearly thing.

[Grey Incision]

a yearly thing, and personally, i think martin should have won it, there is no doubting clarke's ability, he is great, but he is also a media whore :p which pushed him over the line

[Jace The Bass]

Just when you thought the Aussies were in strife along comes the bowlers **** this team is good I only hope that every other team no matter who give these guys a whipping :D
Come on the black caps if we don't then it is up to the English quite frankly I don't care who wins us kiwi's hate losing to those two nations but if I had a choice I'd say go England

[Grey Incision]

yeah, i especially hate it when we lose the bledisloe cup, but that's another matter

[PianoDan]

Matthew Hayden needs to be dropped altogether. Bloody hopeless.

Give Matt a bat my arse.
Have you been following Australian cricket for long? :confused:

[aria]

Did anyone actually see Shahid Afridi's 37 ball century in his first one day international innings?

[Grey Incision]

yeah, it was a f*cking treat, the man blew his nut all over the crowd in the form of massive 6's

[opeth_oasis]

20 20 game was good fun, great 98 for ponting, and symonds cracking 30 comething off 13 balls was enjoyable

[PianoDan]

20 20 game was good fun, great 98 for ponting, and symonds cracking 30 comething off 13 balls was enjoyable
I wish they televised that game! I read about it in the paper. Would have been a treat. New Zealand needed something like 47 from the last ball or something like that, and Glenn McGrath bowled an underarm ball. :lol: Then Billy Bowden gave him a red card. :lol:

All a lot of good fun.

Australia just came away with a victory in the first ODI too. I'm not sure when the next one's on.

[opeth_oasis]

billy bowdens hilarious

[PianoDan]

Well Australia easily won the second ODI in Kiwi-Land. Matty Hayden's returned to form!:D Good hundred from him. It was all quite a thrashing really.

[PianoDan]

Another convincing win by Australia. Clarke and Hussey got Australia out of trouble. Hussey looks quite promising actually, could well become a regular in the One Day side. Clarke continues to show that he was a more-than-worthy Allan Border Medallist, a real talent with a huge future.

Vetorri is a class bowler for New Zealand, a world-class spinner in fact. He's also handy with the bat as he showed in the last game.

It'll be nice if the next game is a bit closer, I think it really could be.

[RichHunt]

I missed the game, how did Gilchrist do with the bat?

Even though his keeping has been great lately (I mean, standing up and getting a stumping of McGrath? Wow.) his batting has been less than phenomenal.

I reckon we should bring in Hadden, as well as Gilchrist..

Australia should experiment more, we seem to be focused to much on winning every game, which I suppose is fair enough, but we should experiment some more with some more youngin's (which is good seeing Clarke and Hussey get up there.) so that we can insure our future as well, rather than have half of the team leave in one year and fill it all up with noobs.

[big69]

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[IHaveRickets]

First post.

[Captain Jack Sparrow]

Jesus, stfu you two. :-\

[big69]

no.

[PianoDan]

I missed the game, how did Gilchrist do with the bat?

Even though his keeping has been great lately (I mean, standing up and getting a stumping of McGrath? Wow.) his batting has been less than phenomenal.
He did poorly, again. Still, give the man a bit of leeway, he's a genius who's just a bit out of form.

I reckon we should bring in Hadden, as well as Gilchrist..

Australia should experiment more, we seem to be focused to much on winning every game, which I suppose is fair enough, but we should experiment some more with some more youngin's (which is good seeing Clarke and Hussey get up there.) so that we can insure our future as well, rather than have half of the team leave in one year and fill it all up with noobs.
I agree that Australia should experiment, but I think they experiment enough as it is. It is still important to win games. As it is they have a rotation system in place. Bringing Hadden in in Australia and Katich to open and Hussey in New Zealand have been two slightly experimental moves. I believe they do always like to look ahead and incorporate young blokes into the side. I reckon them picking Clarke over Brad Hodge could well have been swayed by the fact that Clarke's much younger than Hodge. They don't want to get too complacent and experimental, it could be a bit dangerous.

[RichHunt]

He did poorly, again. Still, give the man a bit of leeway, he's a genius who's just a bit out of form.

I'm a harsh kind of guy and I reckon someone who's out of form should at least be dropped down the order.

[PianoDan]

I'm a harsh kind of guy and I reckon someone who's out of form should at least be dropped down the order.
For many people, I think dropping them from the side would be better than dropping them down the order. I guess in the ODI side it's a little different, and because of who Gilchrist is he could bat down the order if needed, but I think if he's going to be dropped from the opening position because of his form, he might as well be dropped from the side altogether.

Here are his last ten innings:

68 in Aus 2004/05 at Melbourne vs. NZ
60 in Aus 2004/05 at Sydney vs. NZ
0 in Aus 2004/05 at Melbourne vs. WI
6 in Aus 2004/05 at Brisbane vs. WI
47 in Aus 2004/05 at Perth vs. Pak
24 in Aus 2004/05 at Melbourne vs. Pak
40 in Aus 2004/05 at Sydney vs. Pak
4 in NZ 2004/05 at Wellington vs. NZ
0 in NZ 2004/05 at Christchurch vs. NZ
18 in NZ 2004/05 at Auckland vs. NZ

His average of 26.7 is well down on his normal average of 35.17, and if you take the first two scores of 68 and 60 out it's even worse. But he does have a couple of 40s, and 6 scores of under 40 out of 8 matches really doesn't warrant dropping one of the greatest opening ODI batsman of all time from the team. The selectors also have to take other factors into account - he's the wicketkeeper as well (Haddin is a good keeper/batsman but Gilchrist is far superior), and he's also the vice-captain (acting captain in today's match).

Another factor is that Australia just aren't losing. They have no desperate need to find a replacement at the moment. The fact that they have given Haddin a few goes does show that they're looking to the future for when 33 year old Gilchrist finally does go, but he'll still be around for the 2007 World Cup, and unless he has a massive turnaround in his form, which I highly doubt, he'll be the one playing in the World Cup in the West Indies.

I'm afraid for Gilchrist I'd have to see a much longer streak of consistent bad form to agree that he needs to be dropped.

[PianoDan]

Australia won the toss and put New Zealand in to bat today, New Zealand making a solid start so far at 0/75 from 14.5 overs, with Astle 35* and Fleming 30* I'm hoping to see a much closer match today than we've had so far. Even seeing New Zealand win would be quite nice. New Zealand are at a large disadvantage, having rested their best bowler Daniel Vetorri before the Tests start.

[PianoDan]

Well, Gilchrist's 54 off 37 balls will hopefully quieten his critics just a little bit.:D

Australia just won, just then, by 7 wickets in 34.2 overs. Martyn continued his brilliant form with 65 not out. Katich (43) and Symonds (48) also contributed.

[RichHunt]

pwned.

[Grey Incision]

/me is sad to be a kiwi :upset:

[pizzapie88]

I was there yesterday, and honestley i have to say that it was one of the most dissapointind games of cricket I have ever been to. With Fleming and Astle's opening patnership going well I thought that we might have a chance of winning the game, but it went downhill from there. It's really sad to watch your team get belted all over the park by your biggest rivals. Anyway great chants of the day were "Brett Lee's a wanker" :thumb: "Lee is a girls name" :thumb: and last but not least "Hopesy, Hopesy, who ate all the pies" :thumb:.

[pizzapie88]

Oh, there was also a banner that had "I love Cumming" on it. i don't think they would have shown it on T.V but I thought it was brilliant.

EDIT: There was a player named Craig Cumming in the New Zealand team yesterday.

[PianoDan]

/me is sad to be a kiwi :upset:
Isn't that tautology?

pizzapie88: :lol: Sounds like you had fun, apart from the Kiwis losing. I agree, I was hoping Astle and Fleming's opening partnership was a sign of a good match to come, but sadly, that was not to be.

I'd have high hopes for the Tests though. There's no way New Zealand will win the series, but I think they'll work hard and maybe even put up a fight, especially if Vetorri keeps bowling as he did in the One Dayers.

[pizzapie88]

I don't think that we will be able to win any of the tests. I would be happy if we are able to draw at least two of them, but unless the NZ team gets some newfound insperastion or our 1st XI are all free of injury and match ready we have no chance

hummm... are there three games in the series?

[PianoDan]

I don't think that we will be able to win any of the tests. I would be happy if we are able to draw at least two of them, but unless the NZ team gets some newfound insperastion or our 1st XI are all free of injury and match ready we have no chance

hummm... are there three games in the series?
Well let's hope NZ gets some newfound inspiration and your 1st XI are free of injury. I love seeing New Zealand do well, and I love it when they put up a real fight against the Aussies, who so obvoiusly outclass them in every area.

Yep, three Tests for the series. Brad Hodge was called into the 13-man squad to replace the injured Darren Lehmann, and I'm hoping Hodge will get a game. It may sound harsh but I'm hoping he replaces Katich in the final XI.

[white_riot]

Is anyone looking forward to the India v Pakistan series. I cant wait, i hope it's as good as the last series. Hopefully India can start winning some games against quality opposition.

[Grey Incision]

don't get started with pakistan, there's this bloke at school who ALWAYS talks about them, the other day, i asked this guy(ken) what the score between NZ and AUS was. and 2 seconds later, we were somehow talking about pakistan coz they paki dude overheard and started ****ting on about shoaib akhtar.............i just have to say........................wot tha fcuk?

EDIT: this is a good post in an example of how not to spell kiddies, i will not edit it for the fact that it is such a good example. :thumb:

[PianoDan]

pwned.
Not to rub it in or anything man but....

Gilchrist just pummelled New Zealand with 91 off 61 balls, including nine 4s and four 6s. :thumb: Ponting's on 82 as I write and I'm sorry to say (honest) that New Zealand are being thumped once again.

[geetar_joe]

woot. thumped the kiwis again! Ponting made 141, Gilly 91 off 61. insane. 347! haha. ****ty black caps

[PianoDan]

woot. thumped the kiwis again! Ponting made 141, Gilly 91 off 61. insane. 347! haha. ****ty black caps
We used to have Satellite TV. Now we don't. So I miss out on all the overseas matches. This one would have been fantastic to see. :upset:

5-0 in the ODIs, and three Tests coming up. I'm seriously hoping Brad Hodge gets a run in the Tests. I'm also seriously hoping the Kiwis can give us a challenge. I hope Dan Vetorri's continues his run of excellent form. (Check out the bowling figures here: http://aus.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2004-05/AUS_IN_NZ/SCORECARDS/AUS_NZ_ODI5_05MAR2005.html. Only respectable bowling figures in the Aussie innings, and when NZ were slaughtered in such a matter those figures are very respectable. He went for less than 4 and over when all the rest went for at least 6.)

Somehow though I think a convincing 3-0 win in the Tests is a likely result.

[The Digital Pimp]

Hey... Kiwi here... yeah we got pwned. :upset:

[Grey Incision]

hey buddy, it's ok :( we'll get back in the union :)

[Ganondorf]

Is anyone looking forward to the India v Pakistan series. I cant wait, i hope it's as good as the last series. Hopefully India can start winning some games against quality opposition.

Yeah India underachieve a lot.

[white_riot]

India are playing pretty well against Pakistan. Looks like sehwag is going to score another century. I hope Dravid gets a good score and I hope he doesnt play like a snail like he has been doing lately and also Laxman needs a big score to. Balaji bowled awesome, good to see him on the field again

[PianoDan]

hey buddy, it's ok :( we'll get back in the union :)
We shall see.

Oh speaking of New Zealand being caned....

Well they weren't for the first day. They were doing very well. Cummings made a good century, but McGrath took six wickets today to bowl NZ out for about 433 I think. Australia is 3/120 at the end of day 2. It looks as though New Zealand are still well in it if they get a couple of early breakthroughs tomorrow morning.

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[Grey Incision]

well, kiwi's are in front by 1 run, ohg yeah, black pride

[Ganondorf]

I love how all the England fans think they've even got a chance in The Ashes ;)

[PianoDan]

Well Gilly silenced his critics once again with a great century at just about a run a ball. Brilliant stuff. I have to admit I would have had Hodge in there ahead of Simon Katich, but Kato scored a tonne and steadied the ship for the Aussies, and put on 212 with Gilly. So he silenced me.

well, kiwi's are in front by 1 run, ohg yeah, black pride
At this stage, I was thinking how good it was to see NZ put up a fight. A good tonne by Cummings, 5 wickets to the in-form and world-class Daniel Vetorri, and a one-run lead. That all changed though. 5 wickets for Warne and an easy 9-wicket win for Australia.

I love how all the England fans think they've even got a chance in The Ashes
I know. It's funny.

[white_riot]

I think if England play their best they can beat Australia.

Is anyone here following the India v pakistan series.

[PianoDan]

I think if England play their best they can beat Australia.
If England plays its best and Australia plays its worst, and if England has a lot of luck, and Australia has a lot of injuries, then England might have a chance.

Is anyone here following the India v pakistan series.
Not directly. Any updates?

[white_riot]

The first one was a draw, India batted way to slow like usually. They seem to play really slow now like they dont even what to win. Anyways Sehwag played awesome again, another century at an awesome scoring rate. thank god for Sehwag.

[PianoDan]

The first one was a draw, India batted way to slow like usually. They seem to play really slow now like they dont even what to win. Anyways Sehwag played awesome again, another century at an awesome scoring rate. thank god for Sehwag.
Aye, Sehwag is something. India often tend to bat slowly. Dravid in particular is guilty of this. Tendulkar is usually alright though isn't he?

[Ganondorf]

I think if England play their best they can beat Australia.

Is anyone here following the India v pakistan series.

Yeah, I'm supporting India....can't actually watch it though.

[white_riot]

In the second test India got 407. dravid got 110 off 222 which for is a good scoring rate compared to what his done recently. sehwag got 85. Pakistan are doing realy well though they are 273/2. youhana and younis both got centuries and are still not out. India are going to have to bowl good from here. Balaji and Kumble will probally do the damage and Laxman really needs a big score he got 0 in the first innings.

[Ganondorf]

Aye, Sehwag is something. India often tend to bat slowly. Dravid in particular is guilty of this. Tendulkar is usually alright though isn't he?

Tendulkar is the man! :p

[PianoDan]

Tendulkar is the man! :p
He sure is! I've just heard stories that he's out of touch lately. :confused: Is this possible? He's certainly next to Sehwag as an exception to the very-slow-Indian-batsmen theory.

[Ganondorf]

Well yeah, I was in India watching a Indis vs Bangladesh ODI, and Sehwag and Tendulkar demolsihed them right from the word go ;)

[PianoDan]

Well yeah, I was in India watching a Indis vs Bangladesh ODI, and Sehwag and Tendulkar demolsihed them right from the word go ;)
That would have been great to see. Though not such a great achievement against Bangladesh, but still great to see.

Well, Gilchrist demolished New Zealand again with 162 off 146 balls, 22 fours and 5 sixes. Second century in a row. Martyn scored 165. Even Warne pitched in with 50 from only 37 balls.

New Zealand are 4/122. Rain has delayed play so far today, so I would say that for a result to happen, Australia will have to bundle NZ out very quickly, send them back in, and bundle them out quickly again. There is a high possibility of that happening, too.

[white_riot]

India beat Pakistan in the second test, Kumble demolished the pakis. Dravid is back in awesome form it seems which is good and i think Laxman might be dropped soon even though I do not what him to get dropped because i will never be able to forgot his innings against australia. pure class.

[PianoDan]

India beat Pakistan in the second test, Kumble demolished the pakis. Dravid is back in awesome form it seems which is good and i think Laxman might be dropped soon even though I do not what him to get dropped because i will never be able to forgot his innings against australia. pure class.
I will never be able to forget that innings either. Ever. :upset:

[led zeppelin139]

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[PianoDan]

Australia pummeled New Zealand again. Convincing series win. Gilchrist had a monster series, as did McGrath - who's now on 499 wickets. He'll most likely take his 500th wicket, and become the 4th bowler in history (after Walsh, Warne, and Murali in chronological order) to do so, only the second fast bowler. The man is one of the all-time great cricketers and deserves the place in the history books that he will one day have. He's up there, or even perhaps beyond, but at least up there with Dennis Lillee as the greatest Australian fast bowlers ever. To have him and Warne in the same side is extraordinary - two of the very greatest bowlers in history in the one side at the one time - it's little wonder Australia dominate world cricket at the moment.

And then I saw an interesting statistic the other day, too - four current Australian top order batsman are in the top 10 or so Australian batsmen ever in terms of batting average - they were Ponting, Hayden, Gilchrist, and Martyn - with Steve Waugh in there as well. True, the opposition bowling sides aren't as powerful as they were in years gone by, and it could be said that batting conditions are more favourable than they have been in the past, but that is still an extraordinary statistic.

Some more useless statistical trivia - in New Zealand, Gilchrist went past Healy to be Australia's leading run-scoring wicket-keeper (in about half the Tests, too), and is now only behind Zimbabwe's Andy Flower (who is also Zimbabwe's leading run-scorer of any sort); and Ricky Ponting is the most prolific run-scorer for Australia in the No. 3 position, having eclipsed David Boon in his innings of 105. (This is runs scored while batting in the No. 3 position, not total career runs.) Bradman was the other top 3 in that list.

If my memory serves me correctly, Ponting currently has the third highest ever Australian batting average, behind only Bradman (of course) and, I think, one Jack Ryder, who only played 20 Tests. Truly, one of the greats.

I don't think anyone will ever be able to forget Laxman and Dravid batting together against Australia that day...one of the best series of all time, and that day was when it turned. Dravid hasn't seemed to actually be out of form at any time since, but Laxman's a bit more maddening. He's like Ganguly, in that he can be absolutely incredible on his day, and then he can also be incredibly inconsitent, and just screw up really basically.
You're absolutely right. Absolutely.

hey guys i just got a cricket bat. its a vampire. sooooooo i am new to cricket, and could use as much help and tips as possible. i have been trying to "knock in" the bat, any tips? also i have no idea how to play cricket really (im a baseball person) its rather confusing to learn. what are the basic rules and such?

thanks guys
The best thing you can do is just join a team and learn the ropes. The basic rules...? Find an encyclopaedia or some basic cricket book and look them up, it's a bit much to try and explain on the internet. One important thing, you being a baseball person: you only get one strike.

[led zeppelin139]

The best thing you can do is just join a team and learn the ropes. The basic rules...? Find an encyclopaedia or some basic cricket book and look them up, it's a bit much to try and explain on the internet. One important thing, you being a baseball person: you only get one strike.
i live in a small town and i think that i am pretty much the only cricket player... :(

[white_riot]

Younis Khan has been on fire for pakistan. Century, Double Century, Half Century. what is everyones thoughts on Younis, i think he is very underated.

[led zeppelin139]

are there any websites that explain the rules to cricket, and are not supper complecated?

[PianoDan]

are there any websites that explain the rules to cricket, and are not supper complecated?
I did a quick Yahoo! search and found this (http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/Boys_Own_Book_of_Outdoor_Sports/rulescric_ia.html). If you don't like that one, just type "rules cricket" in a search engine and go from there.

Younis Khan is obviousl a talented guy. He seems in good form right now. Good on him.

[Dave19490]

I love how all the England fans think they've even got a chance in The Ashes ;)
Well put up an awesome fight! you wait an see

[PianoDan]

Well put up an awesome fight! you wait an see
Oh I'm sure you'll put up a fight. But that hasn't stopped Australia winning a series for.... years.

England will be thrashed.

[white_riot]

I hope England wins i'm sick of australia winning all the time.

[SuperGrover66]

I hope it's either close, or Australia kicks their *** so bad. But I don't see how the English think they actually have a chance. C'mon, be serious...

[PianoDan]

I hope it's either close, or Australia kicks their *** so bad. But I don't see how the English think they actually have a chance. C'mon, be serious...
Agreed, no chance. I do hope it's close though. And they really have improved since last time we played them.

I won't be surprised at all though if Australia do thrash them without a decent fight being put up. I just hope they won't.

[ragingrob]

hey guys im from New Zealand, yup Aussie needs to lose, but one problem, right now, they are honestly godly, they are in amazing form at the moment, its unbelievable, im glad the rugby season is starting so i dont have to watch Aussi dominating us anymore :P

[PianoDan]

hey guys im from New Zealand, yup Aussie needs to lose, but one problem, right now, they are honestly godly, they are in amazing form at the moment, its unbelievable, im glad the rugby season is starting so i dont have to watch Aussi dominating us anymore :P
Rugby is the one thing New Zealand can match us in, and then it's about even.

[ragingrob]

yeh, and we rule at netball :P

[drummer_411]

go india

[PianoDan]

go india
India was just beaten by Pakistan in an ODI match, in which Shahid Afridi scored the equal-second fastest one-day century in history - off just 45 balls. That's crazy! It equalled Brian Lara's effort, which was only against Bangladesh. Not surprisingly, Afridi also holds the record, 37 balls against Sri Lanka several years ago.

[white_riot]

Pakistan won the series. what the hell is going on with india. they just keep on losing.

[Agitated_Barry]

Anybody see South Africa vs. W Indies? Nel took ten wickets, centuries for De Villiers and Smith. Zondeki and Ntini looked impressive bowling.

[PianoDan]

Anybody see South Africa vs. W Indies? Nel took ten wickets, centuries for De Villiers and Smith. Zondeki and Ntini looked impressive bowling.
Ntini is now ranked 4th in the world (on the LG ICC ratings), behind McGrath, Muralitharan, and Shaun Pollock.

Lara scored 176 in that Test, following his 196 in the 2nd. He now has 28 Test centuries and is No. 1 on the LG list in Tests.

[Agitated_Barry]

Chris Gayle just made 317 in the first innings of the fourth test and yet it's still only the 4th highest West Indian score ever.

[PianoDan]

Chris Gayle just made 317 in the first innings of the fourth test and yet it's still only the 4th highest West Indian score ever.
Yes, but that's still a good effort. Look at the top three - Lara, 400; Lara, 375; Sobers, 365*. Two greats of the game, each were/are long-standing world records (well 400 hasn't stood that long yet but it will). The only other West Indian to score a triple was Lawrence Rowe, with 302. Gayle's score is the 14th highest ever, was the 20th triple century, and makes him the 18th triple centurian.

If an Australia scored 317, it would also be the 4th highest Australia score ever - Hayden, 380; Taylor, 334*; Bradman, 334.

Just some useless trivia.

[Agitated_Barry]

Surely the best kind of trivia?

[Alex1422]

England Kick ***!!!

[ragingrob]

england aye...lol.go NZ, even though aussie are immortal at present

[white_riot]

Chris Gayle just made 317 in the first innings of the fourth test and yet it's still only the 4th highest West Indian score ever.

that man is amazing.

[white_riot]

Where are all the Cricket fans. This thread is really dead.

[PianoDan]

Where are all the Cricket fans. This thread is really dead.
I know.:(

So little has happened in Australian cricket recently and I have not had time to follow World Cricket. I love following it loosely but I just haven't been doing it lately due to time restraints...:(

Keep posting anyway.

[PianoDan]

I'm here, just waiting for something dramatic to happen. :p What does everyone think of the proposed new rule changes? For those who haven't seen, they involve being allowed to substitute one player on and off during ODIs, to make them more interesting, and further rule changes about fielding restrictions. I'm torn....on one level I think that it's nothing more than a cheap gimmick, but on another it might be interesting I guess. Overall though I'd say that it's a pretty poor idea. Oh yeah, and England need to work out a way to get Kevin Pietersen in the test team. Ian Bell being involved is good, but a middle order involving Pietersen and Flintoff is truly terrifying. Pietersen's averaged over 50 in first class crickets for the last few years as well.
Do you mean that they would have 12 active players, but obviously only 11 at a time? As in, all 12 players could bowl or bat, but only 11 field at a time (and only 11 actually bat, obviously), and they rotate?

They had the rule in the ING Cup league here in Australia (it may have been known as the Mercantile Mutual Cup back then, I can't remember how long ago it was - it's the local One-Day Domestic competition anyway). I didn't particularly like it. I see no real point for it actually. I am a stubborn traditionalist, though...

One of the other rules they experimented with was having the normal fielding restriction of 2 outside the circle for the first 15 overs, and then only 3 outside the circle for overs 16-30. Made for some higher scores. Made it interesting. But again, I wasn't a big fan.

[white_riot]

Oh yeah, and England need to work out a way to get Kevin Pietersen in the test team. Ian Bell being involved is good, but a middle order involving Pietersen and Flintoff is truly terrifying. Pietersen's averaged over 50 in first class crickets for the last few years as well.

I agree, Pietersen is pretty awesome. He deserves to be in the test team.

[Agitated_Barry]

Shoddy form at the start of the season though. Thorpe is still favourite for number 5 surely unless he's retired again and no-ones told me? I think the best test team is probably

1. Trescothick
2. Strauss
3. Butcher (Bell)
4. Vaughan
5. Thorpe (Pietersen)
6. Flintoff
7. Jones
8. Giles
9. Jones
10. Harmison
11. Hoggard

The players in brackets are more promising but its probably best to with Thorpe and Butcher IF they are on good form.

[white_riot]

I think Thorpe will probally get the spot and has Butcher been in good form recently because I think Bell might get the number 3.

[Lord Abortion]

anybody got any idea where I can listen to the england test live online?

radio 4 longwave is having server problems...

[white_riot]

I think maybe at www.cricinfo.com you might be able to. You might have to pay though.

[PianoDan]

I'm not sure about listening but you can watch just about any international match live on the above site or a linked site.

Brian Lara's been in amazing form recently and has regained the number 1 spot on the batting rankings... he's such an amazing player, always been one of my favourites and now has 29 centuries - equal to The Don, three behind Steve Waugh and five behind Sunil Gavaskar.

Also, Richie Benaud has recently added his voice to the large number of people calling for Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to be suspended from Test Matches, purely on their ability. I wholeheartedly concur with this idea. These minnows of the game are by no means international standards, as the recent innings and 256 run defeat of Bangladesh by England in 2 and a half days showed. Bangladesh have won only one of their 37 (?) Tests, against Zimbabwe. It really is a joke. The standard of Test cricket is low enough as it is at the moment - the West Indies, who were once a superpower comparable with today's Australian side, are struggling; South Africa, who also were recently second only to Australia, are falling; New Zealand have always been fighters but are by no means comparable to Australia; England are currently the second best team in the world but when Australia crush them humiliatingly (which they will do) in the upcoming Ashes series, we'll see just how much Australia dominate the world at the moment. This is mostly because they're a great team, yes, but it's also because the standard of world cricket is severely low. Teams like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh are not needed and are a joke. It's not good for The Game, and it's not good for them either.

Thoughts anyone?

[white_riot]

I agree with you on Brian Lara, he is a brilliant player and one of the best ever. I also agree that Bangladesh and Zimbawe are sh'it teams and should not participate on the international test match scene. As you said it is not good for the game and something should be done about it. But I do not agree with you about the Ashes series. I think England will give Australia a challenge. Well at least I hope they do. I am a big Indian Cricket fan and I really thought after the Australian series they were closing in on them but now they have lost it. I think the day Laxman basically stoped playing good they suffered alot. He is brilliant and then he just went into really bad form and he can't get over it. Anyway I hope England plays really well and it is a really good series because Cricket is suffering. :upset:

[white_riot]

Pakistanian cricket legend Fazal Mahmood dies at 78.
http://content.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/210175.html

RIP Fazal your a true Pakistanian Cricket Legend.

[PianoDan]

I agree with you on Brian Lara, he is a brilliant player and one of the best ever. I also agree that Bangladesh and Zimbawe are sh'it teams and should not participate on the international test match scene. As you said it is not good for the game and something should be done about it. But I do not agree with you about the Ashes series. I think England will give Australia a challenge. Well at least I hope they do. I am a big Indian Cricket fan and I really thought after the Australian series they were closing in on them but now they have lost it. I think the day Laxman basically stoped playing good they suffered alot. He is brilliant and then he just went into really bad form and he can't get over it. Anyway I hope England plays really well and it is a really good series because Cricket is suffering. :upset:
Aye, Laxman is (or was anyway) indeed a brilliant player. I'll never forget his 285... and he's scored some good runs against Australia. When he's in form he's just great to watch.

Yes I'm really hoping for a good challenging series against England... they'll probably do better than they have in recent years but I still just don't think they'll be up to the standard. It should be an interesting series anyway, from Australia's point of view as well. Hayden's being hacked on for having a couple of bad series, which was unthought of a year ago. Wonder-boy Clarke's dream start to Test cricket is on the decline and people are questioning his spot already. Hodge and Hussey are pressing for spots. Lots tends to happen in England in the way of selection changes etc.

[white_riot]

Wonder-boy Clarke's dream start to Test cricket is on the decline and people are questioning his spot

IMO he is a wanker. He has got talent but i just don't like him. He was lucky in India. He got alot of decisions that went his way. At the start of his innings he is very prone to get out. As for Hayden he has been doing quite bad lately and Langer has been doing really good. But knowing Hayden he will probally bounce back and score century after century. What do you think about Australia's bowling?

[PianoDan]

IMO he is a wanker. He has got talent but i just don't like him. He was lucky in India. He got alot of decisions that went his way. At the start of his innings he is very prone to get out. As for Hayden he has been doing quite bad lately and Langer has been doing really good. But knowing Hayden he will probally bounce back and score century after century. What do you think about Australia's bowling?
I think Clarke has a lot of talent but will inevitably drop away before bouncing back in later years. I don't think 150+ and 91 in first two Tests can be that lucky.

I think Australia's bowling is as good as it's been for a while - McGrath is on top of the bowling rankings, as good as ever, and is just about to become the 4th bowler and the 2nd fast bowler in history to take 500 wickets. Shane Warne is as good as he's been for a while. Gillespie is always a great assett and Kasprowicz has been bowling quite well. Lee's been trying to get back in but I don't like his chances unless there's an injury or unless Kasper performs really badly, but I don't see that happening.

Australia in my opinion have, if not the most powerful, then certainly one of the most powerful bowling attacks in the world at the moment, to back up what is easily the best batting line-up, hands down.

[white_riot]

England have a pretty good batting line up too. Strauss is brilliant and I really think that he has to play he's absolute best for England. Flintoff is also another big key for them. Trescothick also will need to be playing at his best. I think Harmison could be the key. If he bowls well I think they have a big chance. If he bowls as crap as he did against South Africa then England don't have much of a chance.

[PianoDan]

England have a pretty good batting line up too. Strauss is brilliant and I really think that he has to play he's absolute best for England. Flintoff is also another big key for them. Trescothick also will need to be playing at his best. I think Harmison could be the key. If he bowls well I think they have a big chance. If he bowls as crap as he did against South Africa then England don't have much of a chance.
Yes I've heard Strauss is really doing very well. Is Michael Vaughan still going alright? And I've heard mixed stories about Thorpe - is he playing or is he not?

[white_riot]

Vaughan has his moments. Every time England need Thorpe he is always there and saving them. I hope he plays.

[Ganondorf]

I still don't think they'll win, seriously. Australia are like the invincibles.

[blizzard]

I'm pretty sure that Australia will especially if Hayden comes out the form slump he had over the summer

[StandingStill]

Sri Lanka were terrible when they started out, took them 43 games to get a win I think, look at them now. It was ill-advised to face England with such a young team, but the players will gain valuable experience and hopefully in the next 5-10 years we'll have another legitimate test side.

[white_riot]

Anyone looking forward to the twenty-twenty between Australia and England on the 13th June.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

England are annihilating the Aussies in the 20/20 cricket.

Eng: 179/5- Collingwood 46

Aus: 31/7

:cool:

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Aussies lost by 100 runs.

http://content.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/211027.html

[Ganondorf]

Australia will up their game for the Ashes.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Really? I was just about to make my predictions for the entire summer's test cricket based on this one performance...

full scorecard: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2005/6/11995/html/scorecard.stm

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Yeah, definately. I think we'll run them close in every test match, whatever the final result is. there's not too much between the two

[white_riot]

It's going to be very close, I think England are really going to give Australia a run for their money.

Also Pieterson is such an awesome player!

[phonar]

England is the worst cricketing team ive seen and have no chance against australia

Go AUSSIE Go

[here comes the bird flu]

cricket... are you kidding me

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Yeah HAHAHAHAHA it was a great joke wasn't it? You know we planned out this whole thread just for your benefit?

Say thank you

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

england are running away with this as was to be expected

http://uk.cricinfo.com/db/NEW/LIVE/frames/BDESH_ENG_NWS_ODI1_16JUN2005.html

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

the thing is with Jones he's got in in pretty much all of his innings and got out through over excitement. I agree, i think it's better to have him in the lower middle order

[Ganondorf]

England is the worst cricketing team ive seen and have no chance against australia

Go AUSSIE Go

EeeeeASY!

Nah, England are good, but the media terribly overrates them. They beat teams like West Indies and Bangladesh and suddenly they're quality?

Perhaps if they could conistently hold their own against teams like India, Pakistan and Australia the praise would be justified.

This being said, England will probably make the Ashes a lot closer, but Australia will be too ruthless. ;)

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

England are the second best team in the world at least, no doubt about that at all.

They beat Pakistan in the last series and are a stronger all round team that India. england's balance as a team is superb

EDIT: Tresco's got his 100 in his 100th one day international, and england won by 10 wickets

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, guess so.

I still don't fancy them for the next World Cup though, which is One Day amirite?

I think India would be a lot more awesome if they consistently played to their best ability. India are very inconcsistent.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Indias batting line up is amazing, they lack high quality bowlers though. However England haven't risen to the heights of their test performances in one day cricket, i think they need to get a more consistent batting line up, and have more idea of how to control a game

[Ganondorf]

We have the odd good bowelr (eg Harbajan Singh) but voerall we need to improve. Kumble is good aswell.

[white_riot]

What about Balaji and Pathan, very good young bowlers. Zaheer Khan has his moments also.

[StandingStill]

Indias batting line up is amazing, they lack high quality bowlers though. However England haven't risen to the heights of their test performances in one day cricket, i think they need to get a more consistent batting line up, and have more idea of how to control a game
I do think we have the best fielding side in the world now. Collingwood is just exceptional.

[PianoDan]

:lol: Yeah, it was a good performance by England...hopefully it will have shaken the Aussies up a little bit and shown them that we're to be taken seriously now. Compared to a few years ago we're an infinitely better team, basically. They're still undeniably favourites for the Tests, especially as the two forms of the game aren't really comparable, but hey...winnings always cool!
It won't have shaken the Aussies up too much, and a huge 20/20 win isn't really a sign that England are a threat...

Our loss to Somerset shook the team up, and rightly so. But, our batting was good and that's obviously a good sign.

Our poor start against Bangladesh tonight will probably shake the Aussies up even more, but a good recovery has put Australia to 249 and Bangladesh are not going to chase that down (even after a poor bowling performance against Somerset) - Australia will start with a good win and things will only go up.

I do think we have the best fielding side in the world now. Collingwood is just exceptional.
No way. Australia have been the best fielding side in the world for as long as I've been watching cricket (about 10 or 11 years). South Africa at their peak were close with Rhodes et al, but Australia's fielding is brilliant.

[Ganondorf]

Who has the best bowling?

IMO India has the best batting lineup. Dravid, fo' sho'

[PianoDan]

Who has the best bowling?
Australia. McGrath, Warne, Gillespie...

IMO India has the best batting lineup. Dravid, fo' sho'
No. Australia by a long way. India would come second on paper. Langer, Hayden, and Ponting as a top three are enough to put Australia on top on paper alone; but add Martyn, the brilliant young Clarke, the improving Katich, and Gilchrist - considered by some as the best in the world since Bradman (I'm not one of them but I do hold him in very high regard) - and you have a team that would (and does) kill India.

Well... we lost to Bangladesh. I can't believe it! I stand corrected. I'm one of the many calling for Bangladesh to be disallowed from Test cricket due to their lack of real challenge or worth in the game. But here they've just beaten the greatest One Day team in the world... (admittedly this is only ODI cricket, not Test cricket, but it's still quite an upset!).

:amaze:

Very much looking forward to tomorrow night when we take on England. Should be very interesting!

Full credit to Bangladesh, though. A mighty effort. Their bowlers did very well to restrict an explosive batting line-up to 249. Captain Bashar played a solid innings of 47 and, with Ashraful, in a partnership of 130, set up victory. Ahmed's 21 not out off 13, including the decisive 6 on the first ball of the last over, was pivotal, and Rafique's 9 off 7 was also so very important. And of course, young Mohammad Ashraful - 20 years old, a brilliant innings, 100 off 101 balls, only the second Bangladeshi to score an ODI hundred... what an innings!

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Haha that was jokes, well done Bangladesh. now people might start to realise anything is possible in this upcoming series

[Ganondorf]

They beat India aswell, I was in India when it happened. The next day we just came out and basically uber-own3d them tho. Sehwag and Tendulkar in particular.

[PianoDan]

They beat India aswell, I was in India when it happened. The next day we just came out and basically uber-own3d them tho. Sehwag and Tendulkar in particular.
:lol: I would have liked to have seen that.

Still, India is far more inconsistent than Australia. I'd be more surprised seeing Australia lose than India.

[StandingStill]

Harmison just got 3 wickets in 4 balls. Not the tail either Gilchrist, Ponting and Martyn!!!

[Ganondorf]

:lol: I would have liked to have seen that.

Still, India is far more inconsistent than Australia. I'd be more surprised seeing Australia lose than India.

Yeah Australia are far superior.

[Ganondorf]

Holy ****, the ODI is close.

Come on Australia!

[StandingStill]

What a game! Kevin Pietersen is just terrifying. Jason Gillespie looked a broken man by the end. Has to be pushing for a test place doesn't he?

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Pietersen is brilliant, 91 no off 65 balls, how about that. 4 defeats in a wekk for the Aussies.

Harmison was also great with his 5-33

[Ganondorf]

Peitersen is very good.

[StandingStill]

Paul Collingwood's catch...
http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KT8UWSYJUVZ30T70R8BZLCAR5

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

thanks alot, that was a great idea. Everyone watch it, this catch was simply mind boggling. Greatest fielder in the world today

[white_riot]

Harmison just got 3 wickets in 4 balls. Not the tail either Gilchrist, Ponting and Martyn!!!

It's good to see Harmison in good form. With Harmison in form England have a big chance of beating Australia in the Ashes.

Also Paul Collingwood's catch was brilliant.

[phonar]

Paul Collingwood's catch...
http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KT8UWSYJUVZ30T70R8BZLCAR5



wat program do u use to run this program
:confused:

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Paul Collinwood: 112no of 86 balls, then 10-1-31-6. Amazing display from him.

Strauss also batted very very well for his 152 off 128 balls

wat program do u use to run this program
:confused:

windows media player

[Ganondorf]

England are playing very well.

My friends at school think that they're the best thing since sliced bread though, and they're all like 'Tendulkar, wtf?! he is teh suck' :rolleyes:

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

:lol: things really are going badly for the aussies!

http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/050622/3/bq0z.html

[white_riot]

Lol, that is pathetic. This is just a sign that they are going to lose and be kicked off the throne when England whoop them.

[Ganondorf]

They'll still be top of the rankings no matter what happens though.

[StandingStill]

Hmmm... did ok to restrict aussies to 250, but not a great start to the batting...

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

not great at all now, we're 9/3

[Ganondorf]

:lol: This is like the Australia we've come to know.

[white_riot]

Flintoff will bring it home for them.

[white_riot]

Maybe not now.

Pieterson will bring it home for them. God dam'n Flintoff is an idiot. Only Jones and Giles left.

[StandingStill]

well that didnt go well. Alas Pieterson is not the second-coming and Flintoff lookes right off form. Goughy made them look a bit silly at the end. All in all, pretty poor batting display.

[Ganondorf]

Australia taking early wickets was also a factor....

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

haha, but Goughy bashed Lee for a brilliant 4!

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Well england put in a pretty solid display, restricted Bangla to 208/7 and are just about to get there off 38 overs, with Strauss out for 98 with the scores level off 104 balls.

I'm pretty sure they are now out of the tournament, at least they've got one victory though

[Jace The Bass]

I take it England lost to Aust. in the second one day

[Ganondorf]

Rain stops play.

Yeah, Hayden should've shamshed Simon Jones, that's just pathetic throwing the ball at him, if he was going for the stumps he could've done a better job, seeing as he's an international cricketer.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

who cares, accidents happen. If it was deliberate then he woul;dn't have made such a point of apoligising.

Whenever the aussies get into a bit of bother they always accuse the opposition of something, i'm glad it showed england weren't prepared to sit back and let the aussies dictate that situation

[Ganondorf]

Well it's more the kind of thing you'd expect from Asutralia than Engand anyway. But I don't really like how the papers are like 'yeah it was an accident' whereas Hayden swearing near a child makes them basically cry.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Yeah true, but you should know that the average person that works in the media either has no idea what they're whining on about, or will blow it hugely out of proportion in order to sell more copies.

And if if he did swear in front of kids, who f'ucking gives a sh!t

[Ganondorf]

Exactly. Stupid kids.

[Jace The Bass]

What a comeback from England that was awesome

[SoleFactionBassist]

Lol, that is pathetic. This is just a sign that they are going to lose and be kicked off the throne when England whoop them.

Just wait for the real stuff. The Ashes. The Aussies have never dominated that much in the one dayers. It's the tests we've been so good at.

[SoleFactionBassist]

who cares, accidents happen. If it was deliberate then he woul;dn't have made such a point of apoligising.

Whenever the aussies get into a bit of bother they always accuse the opposition of something, i'm glad it showed england weren't prepared to sit back and let the aussies dictate that situation

He threw the ball straight at Hayden, it's not like Hayden was out of his crease or something. I can get a bit agressive on the field and I can honestly say I've never throw a ball at a batsmen on purpose. Theres no way that throw wasn't intentional. England are just trying to intimidate because they don't have the players to go it toe-to-toe for the entire summer.

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, come on you Aussies!!!!

[Ganondorf]

He threw the ball straight at Hayden, it's not like Hayden was out of his crease or something. I can get a bit agressive on the field and I can honestly say I've never throw a ball at a batsmen on purpose. Theres no way that throw wasn't intentional. England are just trying to intimidate because they don't have the players to go it toe-to-toe for the entire summer.


I don't think he planned it or anything, he was prbably just pissed of because he sucks and it was like an instant reaction ;)

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

He threw the ball straight at Hayden, it's not like Hayden was out of his crease or something. I can get a bit agressive on the field and I can honestly say I've never throw a ball at a batsmen on purpose. Theres no way that throw wasn't intentional. England are just trying to intimidate because they don't have the players to go it toe-to-toe for the entire summer.

What, so you think the aussies have never done that? What about all of Lee's beamers and McGrath's similar incidents? I'm glad england feel they are going to compete in that fashion with the aussies, and i'm glad they all backed Jones at the time.

[Firecracker]

That match yesterday was really exciting, i like watching cricket, but it takes about half an hour to get into it, and i normally don't have the time for that.

[SoleFactionBassist]

What, so you think the aussies have never done that? What about all of Lee's beamers and McGrath's similar incidents? I'm glad england feel they are going to compete in that fashion with the aussies, and i'm glad they all backed Jones at the time.

Do you actually play cricket, beamers sometimes just come out, especially when you bowl as fast as Lee does.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Yeah, i play cricket to a fairly high standard. The fact that these things occur naturally just shows that believe it or not things go wrong. Jones did not just throw a ball as hard as he could at Hayden, it just happened by accident.

The aussies are learning that england do not roll over like they used to

[SoleFactionBassist]

^About the rolling over thing, thats true, and it's good for cricket. I'm getting sick of watching us flog everyone by an innings. And I will remain dubious it was an accident.

[geetar_joe]

Yeah, i play cricket to a fairly high standard. The fact that these things occur naturally just shows that believe it or not things go wrong. Jones did not just throw a ball as hard as he could at Hayden, it just happened by accident.

The aussies are learning that england do not roll over like they used to

Jones' throw was lazy, stupid and totally unnecessary. That was probably the stupidest piece of cricket I have seen in the series so far, closely followed by Collingwood trying to go toe-to-toe with Hayden shortly after.

England will fold like paper in the test matches. They don't have the quality or the experience to face up to Warne, McGrath, Gillespie and Lee for 5 days. Nor do they have the bowling strike power to knock over the depth of the Australian batting innings twice in a match.

Bold predicitions yes, but we'll wait and see.

Oh, and can we please play some matches on a pitch that doesn't slope? What kind of retard makes a pitch that slopes side to side? Thats stupid, even for an Englishman :)

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Hmm, i think you'll have to take the geography of england up with the surveyors that created earth however millions of years ago.....

Cricket is an intense game, the throw was warranted as an attempt to run someone out. It was far less tupid that, for example, McGrath bowling a no-ball in the last over of a one day international final, allowing tail enders to get England through for a draw

[geetar_joe]

Hmm, i think you'll have to take the geography of england up with the surveyors that created earth however millions of years ago.....

Cricket is an intense game, the throw was warranted as an attempt to run someone out. It was far less tupid that, for example, McGrath bowling a no-ball in the last over of a one day international final, allowing tail enders to get England through for a draw

True, but the no-ball didn't smack Giles or Goughy or whoever in the ribs. McGraths no-ball was almost as stupid as Brett Lee bowling a short ball to Giles. Giles was going to slash away at anything short, and hes too slow to pick up the short ball (as are most tailenders), so it was always going to go straight over the keeper.

who else is looking forward to a good winter/"summer" of cricket? :)

[SoleFactionBassist]

You can't compare a no ball to an unwarranted throw. And I don't think England will completely fold. As for the draw, how could England have two fifty makers and still not manage to overcome a score of 196.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

It doesn;t matter, i'd rather the english made bigger scores when they got in than make a lot of 20s and 30s like the aussies did. Scores like that indicate that they were getting settled and then threw their wickets away

[SoleFactionBassist]

Wot about two men who make it to fifty. I'm more annoyed with throwing my wicket away with each run I make. The higher the score you make, the easier it is at the crease.

[SoleFactionBassist]

Trust me, I throw my wicket away alot.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Yeah, but the hardest part is getting to thirty-odd. Once you get there it should be easy. The aussies got players to thaht comfort stage who then promptly got out. At least Jones and Collingwood went on, and in the end set upo the result.

I've been throwing my wicket away all season, i've beens truggling a bit with the bat. I was going fine yesterday then top edged to point when cutting a leggie

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

brilliant win again foir england yesterday, very solid and comfotable all round performance. Harmison Jones and Collingwood especaiily bowled very well in helpful conditions, and Strauss and Tresco started fantastically before Vaungh came in and finished the job

[Ganondorf]

ahaaha look at the England batting score :lol:

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

The first day has been amazing. Harmison and Mc Grath have both bolwed brilliantly.

Flintoff was unlucky, kept low

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, I reckon this series will be very close, with the Aussie's experience just edging in the victory.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Crap! I've been missing the scores!

Who won the first test? Or is it still going?

[Untitled]

Aussies have the 1st test match, england played quite poorly, hopefully itll get better for us.

[Firecracker]

Yeah, we didn't score as highly as we could, i saw that in the second innings, four of our tail enders got ducks. Sux.

[Ganondorf]

Aussies have the 1st test match, england played quite poorly, hopefully itll get better for us.

Well it couldn't get any worse, hahaha

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

We played very well in places, such as pretty much the whole aussie first innings and the opening stand of our second innings, but overall we just didn't have enough experience and weren't ruthless enough to win the match.

We need thorpe back for bell to sure up the middle order

[Liberi Fatali]

Well it couldn't get any worse, hahaha
You could lose the second test match and have the cocky as ever Shane Warne pick up a 10 wicket haul.

I feel sorry for the Brits, and their media don't really make it any easier on them.

[RCVA]

What the **** was Geraint Jones doing. What a stupid way to get out when you're trying to hold out for a draw.

Anyway, i really hope Vaughan gets some runs.

[Ganondorf]

You could lose the second test match and have the cocky as ever Shane Warne pick up a 10 wicket haul.

I feel sorry for the Brits, and their media don't really make it any easier on them.

He probably will :D

Then gloat about it....

[RCVA]

England might choose Collingwood. I'm not sure how he'd do but he seems in good form. 190,181 and 105*.

[scroogey]

was a bit shocked to see that Collingwood didnt get picked for 2nd test - played well in one dayers and doing well at Durham. should put him in for ian bell. then we may have 2 decent batsmen (all hail Pieterson!!)

[Huggy_B<>RHCP]

I dont undertand wat it is with england and there keeper jones? it's well obvious that they are trying to get a an english gillie. it's not working and the should go back to the more reserved keeper

[scroogey]

who else is there though?

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Hmm, first post in this thread.

Geez, it's all going wrong today...

[Clunge]

England need to drastically rethink their team. This is what I would do...

Trescothick
Strauss
Pietersen
Vaughen
Flintoff
Collingwood
(A Wicketkeeper)
Giles
Hoggard
Jones
Harmison

Vaughen isn't a number 3 batsman and Bell just isn't up to test standard yet. It's all going pretty pear shaped today though isn't it?

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I know, 102-7 i think ?

It's unbelievable...

[Clunge]

102-6 I think, Jones and Flintoff are in.

[Clunge]

Actually, it is 7 because Hoggard's out isn't he?

[i2 enegade]

Anybody else following the India/Sri lanka/West Indies series? Or am I the only brownie here amongst England and Australia supporters? ;o

[Clunge]

Anybody else following the India/Sri lanka/West Indies series? Or am I the only brownie here amongst England and Australia supporters? ;o
I am kind of, Windies made 226-7 amirite? - I would bet on a Sri lanka win in that match.

[Untitled]

Actually, it is 7 because Hoggard's out isn't he?
yeah he got cuaght.

EDIT, it wasnt hoggard 7th out, it was Jones. Giles is in now.

[Clunge]

yeah he got cuaght.
Oh ok, I missed that. Hopefully Flintoff and Jones can hoick us out of trouble, otherwise we are screwed once again.

[Untitled]

Oh ok, I missed that. Hopefully Flintoff and Jones can hoick us out of trouble, otherwise we are screwed once again.
Read EDIT :thumb:

Hoggard was out ages ago.

[Clunge]

Ok, I confused things there, I knew Hoggard was out, I take it now Jones is out and we are down to Flintoff and Giles?

[Untitled]

Yup.

[Clunge]

Yup.
ah nuts, did you just see that amazing stop by Clarke?

[Untitled]

yeah t'was good.

Giles has just been caught out.

[Clunge]

yeah t'was good.

Giles has just been caught out.
and S Jones now

[Untitled]

Bah.

Harmison out for a golden duck.

[Untitled]

and S Jones now
Jones is in now, it was Harmison.

[Clunge]

dang, I am slow today :(

[Untitled]

ha ha. FLintoff is smaking them all over now in this over. Not bad to say he's pissed his shoulder up.

[Clunge]

Ah well, looks like 2:0 Aussies to me, two and a half days to score 260 runs.

[Lord Abortion]

..flintoff takes langer...and ponting
could we do it?
this man is my god...

[Untitled]

Ah well, looks like 2:0 Aussies to me, two and a half days to score 260 runs.
Two and a half days? this test finishes tomorrow.

I think England can do it. Ive been impressed with Flintoff today.

[Clunge]

Two and a half days? this test finishes tomorrow.

I think England can do it. Ive been impressed with Flintoff today.
?!?!? it's day 4 tomorrow, then you have day 5 - anyhoo, 4 wickets down now, we are in with a chance :D

[Lord Abortion]

five down... this WILL be done...
EDIT and gilchrist makes it 6 out

[Angry Balled Fists!]

OH yes !!!!!!!

This test is ours.

What a peach of a ball form Harmison at the end...

[Ganondorf]

England cricket team is bad, they're lucky McGrath is injured. Shane Warne should get man of the match due to the fact that the England team basically have a mental breakdown whenever he has the ball in his hands.

[poorquality]

Flintoff is having a blinder aint he, I'm havent been a fan of cricket for long, I only started getting into it recently, but he made some impressive shots, with an injured shoulder too, also his bowling was top class too, When he was out even Shane Warne called him for ages just to say "well played" lol :P

Shane Warne actually wasn't doing too bad at the end of the day, got a couple 6's :P not bad for a bowler.

He's got to be the best Spin bowler around though, that ball the other day where it just bounced and spun around the batsman and clean into the wicket, pure class.

[Lord Abortion]

OH yes !!!!!!!

This test is ours.

What a peach of a ball form Harmison at the end...
it is... just two more to go tomorrow... It'll be finished in 5 overs...

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, that was awesome. When McGrath comes back, England are going down :evil: