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mr snrub

08-16-2004, 04:48 PM

Trescothick
Strauss
Key
Vaughan
Flintoff
Thorpe
G. Jones
Giles
Harmison
Anderson/Hoggard
S. Jones

You've got to have Thorpe in at 5. Although Fred did well today, Thorpe is a better 5, as he knows the game better and is more consistent. Freddie just has one good innings a match if you look at the 3 tests we've had against West indies so for me, Thorpe is a better 5.

Till_Lindeman001

08-16-2004, 04:50 PM

Yeah, kicked the Windies asses, well played Key, he was awesome and Freddie was his usual self, bringing delight to the Manchester crowd. It is good that we are finally beating the Windies, whereas they kicked us everytime about a decade ago.

Well, the next tour is to SA, and apparently they're playing like a village team against Sri Lanka.

mr snrub

08-16-2004, 04:53 PM

They are, they lost the series 1-0, and were beaten easily in the 2nd test. Don't know it in detail but one of the Sri Lankan bowlers took 6-40 (roughly) and the top SA score was about 60. But we shouldn't get complacent, there is alot of work to do to beat them. I look forward to playing Australia though - it will be the closest it has been for years.

Till_Lindeman001

08-16-2004, 04:54 PM

You've got to have Thorpe in at 5. Although Fred did well today, Thorpe is a better 5, as he knows the game better and is more consistent. Freddie just has one good innings a match if you look at the 3 tests we've had against West indies so for me, Thorpe is a better 5.

That's 2 more than Lara :lol: and he's considered one of the best ever, my thoughts about Freddie at 5 being that the three above him: Vaughan, Key and Strauss tend to score at quite a slow rate so putting Thorpe in there as well could take a game away from us before Freddie's had a chance to influence it in his usual style, but technically, Thorpe is the better player, yes, but remember when Flintoff was at 6, he kept getting 40 or so not out, being left with the tailenders at the end.

mr snrub

08-16-2004, 05:02 PM

That's 2 more than Lara :lol: and he's considered one of the best ever, my thoughts about Freddie at 5 being that the three above him: Vaughan, Key and Strauss tend to score at quite a slow rate so putting Thorpe in there as well could take a game away from us before Freddie's had a chance to influence it in his usual style, but technically, Thorpe is the better player, yes, but remember when Flintoff was at 6, he kept getting 40 or so not out, being left with the tailenders at the end.

Yes but they have all played a good part so far in the series. Tres made back to back hundreds at egdebaston, Strauss made a 100 at Lords, where Key made a 200 with 93* today, and Vaughan made a century aswell somewhere. Although the run rate may be slow at times, they have all performed well in place, and when some of them haven't performed, there has always been a top-order batsman to perform well, so Freddie hasn't been needed at all to get all the runs, apart from Egdebaston after Tres made a hundred.

mr snrub

08-16-2004, 05:39 PM

No one is as quick as Freddie. He is the best in the world at his position. Baring in mind it is test cricket, you are not expected to score quickly, but take your time, as Key and Flintoff did today, and lets face it, Freddie didn't exactly score quickly today, 57* off 93 odd balls.

mr snrub

08-16-2004, 05:43 PM

Till_Lindeman001

08-16-2004, 05:47 PM

If this was one day cricket you would be expected to of made a 50 off about 60 balls or less, but as it is test cricket everyone gets excited because freddie is the only one who treats it like one day stuff. usually anyway.

He's the only person who can empty bars at cricket grounds, ie, when he comes in to bat.

I hate it when people compare Freddie to Botham, I mean, sure they play similar but this is another era, for god's sake!

Till_Lindeman001

08-16-2004, 11:51 PM

Vaughan and Key in particular normally score pretty fast as well I think, it's just not as quick as Freddie.

Vaughan and Key only start scoring fast when they get their eye in after 100 -130 balls each, by which time they're on about 30 so having a Flintoff to come in after them helps the overall run rate and that means England score more runs, quicker, leaving us in a stronger position.

Grey Incision

08-17-2004, 12:07 AM

yeah, Flintoff is a champ, even in Test match cricket, any side needs someone like Flintoff who has the capability to score runs quickly and take the game away from the opposition, but in my opinion........New Zealand ****s on England for one day cricket!!!!!

Till_Lindeman001

08-17-2004, 12:10 AM

but in my opinion........New Zealand ****s on England for one day cricket!!!!!

New Zealand are the opposite of England in that they are great in the 1 dayers and suck big time at test matches. The current 1-day England team are very much a team for the future, hence no Butcher and Thorpe, both of whom were good 1-day players, they are relatively inexperienced and will get better with time.

Grey Incision

08-17-2004, 12:13 AM

Till_Lindeman001

08-17-2004, 12:25 AM

Yeah, Strauss is a great find in my opinion, but the New Zealand side for 1-dayers is just awesome, they have so much talent coming through, and they still have Shane Bond to return, and once he does, there'll be hell to pay, hehehe

Aren't New Zealand ranked 2nd in ODI's, cause England are 2nd in the test rankings, that's confirmed due to the series win over the Windies by at least two clear test matches, looking at our last 10 matches, we've won 9 (all very convincingly) and drawn one and it took a world record score to stop us from winning. Bond is a great bowler and we were fortunate he was injured but our attack as a whole is better: Harmison, Flintoff and Simon Jones all bowl at up to 95mph and sometimes a little quicker :amaze: , and the swing bowler either Anderson or Hoggard both get up to 87-88mph, given that Giles is also in good form our next two series are away in SA and home to Australia, and I think we'll win in SA but it'll be a good series and run the Aussies close at home 'cause this England team is one to be feared.

Grey Incision

08-17-2004, 12:47 AM

yeah, i agree entirely, except i dislike Harmison, hahaha. The Australian team is starting to crack, not looking as invincible as it was 1 year or so ago. They are losing their bowlers, although we do have one heaps young guy who is gonna rock the world, played in the U19 world cup, and he's 16 years of age, as the opening bowler, bowls at 95MPH already, and against Simon Katich's team he took 9/7, clean bowling Simon Katich himself. He's a great player, one to watch out for in coming years

Till_Lindeman001

08-17-2004, 12:53 AM

although we do have one heaps young guy who is gonna rock the world, played in the U19 world cup, and he's 16 years of age, as the opening bowler, bowls at 95MPH already, and against Simon Katich's team he took 9/7, clean bowling Simon Katich himself. He's a great player, one to watch out for in coming years

Jeez :amaze: , I'm 16 and I'd be having a good day if I got 80mph! The fastest I face is about 85mph, that's our captain who only really managed that once or twice and it was $hit hot!

Adam Jones is GOD

08-17-2004, 10:40 AM

Just for trivia purpose, what is the fastest ball ever delivered? I'ld imagine it was by that Pakistain bowler (haven't paid too much attention to cricket recently, only started keeping track again).

Adam Jones is GOD

08-17-2004, 10:43 AM

I think Shoaib's the only one ever registered bowling at more than 100mph, although someone else might have done it...

I would laugh if a spinner got it :lol: maybe one who needed stress relief after being slogged for boundaries for several overs. (I should know, spinners were cannon fodder when i was playing)

Drop The Baby

08-17-2004, 10:44 AM

Yeah Shoiab registered just over 100 and he's the only one.

Ian Bell has been called up for the last test. Any idea when it starts?

Adam Jones is GOD

08-17-2004, 10:47 AM

I think its this thursday?

Drop The Baby

08-17-2004, 10:52 AM

I hope so, otherwise this thread will disapear into the nether regions of MX........ ;)

Drop The Baby

08-17-2004, 10:58 AM

Yeah it must be soon as the final is on the 25th

That's something to look forward to on thursday then

Pick up AS results, watch test crickets :D

Adam Jones is GOD

08-17-2004, 11:04 AM

Yeah it must be soon as the final is on the 25th

That's something to look forward to on thursday then

Pick up AS results, watch test crickets :D

Good plan

Get A level results, watch the cricket, go out and start looking for job

See, enjoy AS results day, because you can retake them if you fail, and you have another year of school. Compared to A levels where you cant retake, and after you're thrown into work/uni and lack of money.

But as long as there's cricket

Till_Lindeman001

08-17-2004, 12:16 PM

It's amazing...I'm younger than everyone I talk to on here. I'm getting my GCSE's next Thursday while in Spain!!

:thumb:
I also get my GCSE results next Thursday, right about now it starts to eat you alive, doesn't it! Constant nagging thoughts etc, but the plan definitely is to get the results then go home and watch some cricket with a celebratory/consolation beer! (I'm sure it won't stop at one though, more like until I can't stand up any more! :lol: )

Till_Lindeman001

08-17-2004, 12:20 PM

Yeah, this Thursday, and then the Champions Trophy gets going September 1 I think.

I'm lucky, the Rose Bowl (one of the 3 venues, the others being Edgbaston and The Oval) is only half an hour away from me so I will be "suspiciously ill" on some days in September, so that I can watch some more cricket, in fact, thinking about it, The Oval is only a train journey as well, BONUS! :lol:

Till_Lindeman001

08-17-2004, 12:56 PM

But as long as there's cricket

As long as there is cricket:

a) I'll remain sane :thumb:
b) There'll still be people to slate it "it's sooooooo boring etc." :angry:
c) Americans will still not have a clue as to what we're on about :lol:
d) England will rule at one form eg. Test's and suck at the other, ODI's :upset:
e) The Australians will still be annoyingly arrogant about the Ashes.
f) Freddie Flintoff will be an entertainer (How far did he hit that! :amaze: )

Drop The Baby

08-17-2004, 02:38 PM

:thumb:
I also get my GCSE results next Thursday, right about now it starts to eat you alive, doesn't it! Constant nagging thoughts etc, but the plan definitely is to get the results then go home and watch some cricket with a celebratory/consolation beer! (I'm sure it won't stop at one though, more like until I can't stand up any more! :lol: )

I remember not being worried at all before GCSEs as i was sure i failed. But i did well and i'm pretty sure you'll do better than you though, just think of all the other dumbasses out there :thumb:

Till_Lindeman001

08-19-2004, 05:52 PM

I remember not being worried at all before GCSEs as i was sure i failed. But i did well and i'm pretty sure you'll do better than you though, just think of all the other dumbasses out there :thumb:

Thanx :thumb:

In the end England didn't do all that badly today did they? Bell got 70 on debut, Vaughan got 66 and Freddie's still there on 62* with Geraint Jones so we're quite well set up for tomorrows play.

PS. Bump!

Till_Lindeman001

08-19-2004, 05:59 PM

Yeah, today was very pleasing. Bell came through a horrible start to play well, and Freddie had them on the run by the end...they looked better than they have done though, and Lara is due a score :eek:

That very thought of Lara had been bugging me too, but Freddie seems to have him well and truely sorted at the moment, but they did bowl well, especially Collymore, he was really unlucky

Till_Lindeman001

08-19-2004, 06:06 PM

I know...the first half of the day was painfully slow, but we sped up a bit when they bought on some change bowlers. Collymore was bowling very well, although their fielding was rubbish as usual. :D

Their whole attitude about fielding gives the wrong message, the ones on the boundary seem to think that a cricket ball is actually a hot potato and to see them throwing the ball back 70-80 yards underarm really looks pathetic, the only good fielder they have is Dwayne Bravo and he was also crap today.

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 06:47 AM

Good mornings play by England. Giles 52, Hoggard 38, and the West Indies not looking comfortable at all. Their fielding was awful. England on course for the whitewashing of them, which is good.

pusscat

08-20-2004, 06:55 AM

413 for 9

don't know if that's good or bad

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 06:58 AM

it's good, seeing as we were 66-3.

Stephanie

08-20-2004, 07:02 AM

cicket = *yawn*

:rolleyes:
how dare you say such a thing!
It may be a yawn to watch but playing the game is so awesome. Try indoor cricket, its such a fast, intense game. I just got home and my team got slaughtered! Ah well still had fun.

I LOVE YOU YATTY

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 07:16 AM

yeah, stupid fielders, one should of caught that last one.

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 07:19 AM

HARMISON!!! what a 6.

Till_Lindeman001

08-20-2004, 07:49 AM

What a partnership at the end, I couldn't take my eyes off of it, they must have added about 60 runs for the last wicket, Lara looked as though he was about to cry! And I thought Flintoff could slog :amaze:

Till_Lindeman001

08-20-2004, 08:03 AM

Well that's a sign of a good side though, and the tail-enders really have worked on their batting, because Fletcher and Vaughan realised that an extra 10 or maybe 20 runs really could make the difference in a match but to add 60 odd for the final wicket really was fantastic.

Till_Lindeman001

08-20-2004, 08:28 AM

Gayle's out and so is Joseph, 22-2 great stuff :amaze:

Till_Lindeman001

08-20-2004, 08:43 AM

Sarwan's out as well now, 26-3

Drop The Baby

08-20-2004, 09:44 AM

What a catch by Key :cool:

And how great was Harmison :lol: :lol:

pusscat

08-20-2004, 10:54 AM

:upset: :angry:

Stupid cricket team! Someone needs to shoot lara and gayle!

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 02:28 PM

Till_Lindeman001

08-20-2004, 04:15 PM

Nah, they will fall eventually, give it time. What a good days play though from England, all positives and no negatives. Great bowling, great fielding and its good that our tailenders are putting on runs.

Yep, England pwned the Windies today, two excellent catches, by Key and Bell and some great bowling by Harmison to add to his batting display, mind you, Gayle hit Hoggard for 6 fours in one over, every ball went to the rope, it's the first time that it's ever happened in Test Cricket.

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 04:17 PM

I know, I think Gayle and Lara might do well, probably put on a good partnership and it wouldn't suprise me if we have to bat again, but the whitewash is now pretty much certain. You've got to feel for Hoggard though, because he wasn't bowling badly at him, he was just putting it away superbly.

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 04:17 PM

That was horrible...although Harmison is on course for a real man of the match display, and every possibility of 10 wickets in the match.

Could of even been 10 wickets in a day if he had got 2 more at the end.

Till_Lindeman001

08-20-2004, 04:29 PM

Could of even been 10 wickets in a day if he had got 2 more at the end.

Well there was the possibility but it would have been amazing and probably a first, still got 8 more chances to take wickets though and the game isn't over yet although it would take a mammoth effort by the Windies to save the game, the one man in the world capable of that, Lara is still at the crease so he has to be the top priority to England's bowlers.

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 04:30 PM

Yeah, but honestly at the moment I would get Gayle first, he is bashing it around too much.

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 04:30 PM

I also really feel for Anderson, he was so good last year or two years ago, but now nothing is going for him which is a shame because he is such a good bowler.

Holyed

08-20-2004, 04:31 PM

Its going to take a mammoth effot, that have to get around 500 to leave england with around 200-250 to get. And the way they are bowling ,that looks very unlikely.

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 04:34 PM

Yeah, correct, they won't win, but I think Gayle and Lara could both get centuries. Even if it leaves England requiring less than 50 runs, I can vaguely see them having to bat. But I hope they do prove me wrong and that they can finish it tomorrow!

Till_Lindeman001

08-20-2004, 04:36 PM

Yeah, but honestly at the moment I would get Gayle first, he is bashing it around too much.

Yes, but with Gayle you always get the impression that he's going to go for one shot too many and give a chance, which, judging by the fielding today, we should take. Anderson strikes me as a real "confidence" bowler, it seems to affect him more than other cricketers, if he's on form, he'll swing the ball well and can pick up anyone, but if he's having a bad day then we know all about it, that's why I prefer Simon Jones to him, plus he gets similar bounce to Harmison and no-one can seem to deal with that at the moment.

Kif

08-20-2004, 04:36 PM

I saw it yesterday, and some guy got hit in the balls while they were being bowled to. That made my day. Slo-mo replays and everything!

Till_Lindeman001

08-20-2004, 04:39 PM

I saw it yesterday, and some guy got hit in the balls while they were being bowled to. That made my day. Slo-mo replays and everything!

Ha ha, it always looks worse in slow motion! :amaze:

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 04:39 PM

Yes, but with Gayle you always get the impression that he's going to go for one shot too many and give a chance, which, judging by the fielding today, we should take.

Yeah he does give away his wicket cheaply.

Till_Lindeman001

08-20-2004, 04:40 PM

Yeah he does give away his wicket cheaply.

As a cricket fan, it's a shame because he's a wonderful player, but as an England fan it's great!

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 04:43 PM

As a cricket fan, it's a shame because he's a wonderful player, but as an England fan it's great!

Exactly! He came out after the follow on as if he was playng 20:20 cricket!! He could be the next Windies captain, if he puts his mind to it. He's also a useful spinner, at times!

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 04:47 PM

Yeah exactly!! If he ever managed to bat a full day, he'd be on a massive score! I heard something about him wanting to play 20/20 next year.

Yeah, he said he wanted to try it according to one of the commentators today.

Till_Lindeman001

08-20-2004, 04:47 PM

Yeah exactly!! If he ever managed to bat a full day, he'd be on a massive score! I heard something about him wanting to play 20/20 next year.

Hope he comes here to Sussex, we could do with a decent 20/20 batsman, we're more geared towards the longer version of the game down on the South Coast. :thumb:

mr snrub

08-20-2004, 04:49 PM

Haha, we are fine here in Surrey! I wish we could do as well in the leagues as we did in 20:20!

mr snrub

08-21-2004, 07:00 AM

Wow, 180-4, Gayle 105 and Lara 15, with Bravo 25* and Chanderpaul something low. Good start, only four more to go!

Till_Lindeman001

08-21-2004, 09:58 AM

292-7 now, Baugh and Collymore in now.

h3x

08-21-2004, 10:51 AM

oooh, we almost won by an innings. thats 8 games in a row now... close.

i dont believe it, 1 run win!

mr snrub

08-21-2004, 11:07 AM

That's so cheeky, giving us only one run to win it. Oh well, good performance all-round, and good that Jimmy Anderson is coming back. Flintoff and Chanderpaul deserved players of the series.

[Nightbreak]

08-21-2004, 12:18 PM

good that Jimmy Anderson is coming back. Flintoff and Chanderpaul deserved players of the series.
I picked the men of match and series as soon as the runs were hit. Freddy had better be in form for the ashes in a few years.

mr snrub

08-21-2004, 12:29 PM

']I picked the men of match and series as soon as the runs were hit. Freddy had better be in form for the ashes in a few years.

Yeah, everyone has to be infact, we can't win it with just Freddie!

[Nightbreak]

08-21-2004, 12:31 PM

Yeah, everyone has to be infact, we can't win it with just Freddie!
Good point, but if he's on top of his game he brings the rest with him.

mr snrub

08-21-2004, 12:34 PM

']Good point, but if he's on top of his game he brings the rest with him.

That is correct. He is a central figure of the team, along with Vaughan, and as long as he is happy, the rest should be aswell.

mr snrub

09-03-2004, 01:33 PM

Just got back from the cricket at The Oval. The one-day team may finally be picking themselves up.

mr snrub

09-03-2004, 01:45 PM

Yeah that is true. Solanki has played well, Trescothick started us off nicely on both occasions, but Vaughan hasn't done anything either time. Strauss was great at Trent Bridge and Flintoff as ever is just quality. Collingwood showed that he has real talent today, and Jones is progressing well as a batsman. With some real practise our batting will be up to scratch in no time.... I hope.

mr snrub

09-03-2004, 01:57 PM

Yeah, I actually totally agree. He isn't that consistent any more, and although his good balls are good ones, he doesnt quite have the impact of a few years ago. Harmison wasn't great today, but Alex Wharf may be one for the future, but yes, giving Anderson some experience is important because that was the difference between him and someone like Harmison in the Tests this summer. Get some experience under your belt and then confidence and consistency goes up, which is what he needs.

mr snrub

09-03-2004, 04:48 PM

I bet this thread will get really boring between now and the winter tests in South Africa (if that is where they are). Unless anyone is interested in how the Totesport League finished.... :rolleyes:

mr snrub

09-03-2004, 04:55 PM

Ha ha yeah. If someone makes a random comment about cricket every day until then, it will keep it alive.

free_thinkers_are_dangerous

09-03-2004, 04:58 PM

Today's random comment: I played cricket on Wednesday for my Humanities class about the rise and fall of the British Empire. 'twas quite fun, and the fact I have basic hand-eye coordination (ie catching, throwing, and hitting) impressed some of the ladies to the point that I have a mini celebrity status in my Humanities class now :cool:.

Funny, really. I got 13 or 14 runs and we won 29-28 (didn't play the full 5 days unfortunately :angry: ), and 2 or 3 girls were all like :eek: "are you from British-land?" It's a course on Great Britain, and they didn't know it's the same thing as England. Sad.

mr snrub

09-03-2004, 05:01 PM

That's pretty random. Good effort.

Broken Arrow

09-03-2004, 05:04 PM

My friend is from India and says Britain sucks at cricket

Adam Jones is GOD

09-03-2004, 05:05 PM

Just gloat about how you scored half your teams runs.

But still, random

Good to see this thread around again, keeps the memory of yatty alive (whether thats good or not is another thing)

The Jolly Pakistani

09-03-2004, 05:05 PM

My friend is from India and says Britain sucks at cricket

The irony here grabbed me by the balls and hasn't let go yet...

Broken Arrow

09-03-2004, 05:07 PM

I'm from Canada so I really don't understand.

mr snrub

09-03-2004, 05:08 PM

My friend is from India and says Britain sucks at cricket

Your friend is an idiot

The Jolly Pakistani

09-03-2004, 05:09 PM

I'm from Canada so I really don't understand.

Well might be my bias (I'm pakistani born, now live in canada) but they aren't real great themselves as of now (neither is pakistan for that matter :upset: ).

mr snrub

09-03-2004, 05:11 PM

I didn't even know canada had a cricket team....

The Jolly Pakistani

09-03-2004, 05:12 PM

I didn't even know canada had a cricket team....

my bad, I was talking bout the indian tem

mr snrub

09-03-2004, 05:14 PM

my bad, I was talking bout the indian tem

Ah ok. Yeah the Indian team isn't that special any more. Maybe when Tendulkar gets back though. Or is he Sri Lankan...? Well there was some class batsman that they are missing over here. Also their bowling attack isn't that strong anymore.

moaner

09-03-2004, 05:37 PM

England aren't doing badly at the moment...

wow, i'm ashamed, im british and dont know jack all about how our cricket team is doing

Adam Jones is GOD

09-03-2004, 05:40 PM

Im glad to see Darren Gough out there back to good form, my favourite non spinner bowler.
I dont really keep up with cricket as well as I could, but thanks to having a sport fan father, its always on the TV. Though I havent seen anything of our batting today, only saw the bowling

mr snrub

09-03-2004, 05:46 PM

Yeah - Goughy is good but his consistency is lowering as his age rises. Maybe he should call it a day from England cricket as there are a load of young good bowlers who could replace him.

Adam Jones is GOD

09-03-2004, 05:56 PM

Yeah, going out on a high note would be the best end though, maybe he's thinking after the nexst ashes. Bowlers have looked up to him, and now its a case of pupils overtaking the master

mr snrub

09-04-2004, 04:12 PM

So England have got Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe in the ICC Throphy thing. Also Gough is one wicked off becoming the first England bowler to get 200 wickets in One-day cricket. So maybe he should stay around for a little while longer...

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 09:06 AM

India all out for 204 with Ganguly making 90, and Harmison leading the bowling attack with 4-22. Also Gough became first ever English bowler to get 200 wickets in one-day internationals. By the way, does anyone know why Flintoff isn't playing?

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 09:26 AM

It is. We are currently 18-1 with trescothick again being stupid and edging to slip for 1 run. But dare I say it, Micheal Vaughan is actually scoring runs!!! He has hit 3 fours and is looking in good shape... at the moment that is.

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 09:28 AM

22-2, Solanki goes for 9. Edged off Nehra.

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 09:52 AM

Ok - now we are in trouble. 30-4 off 9 overs isn't good. BUT, Vaughan is still there, somehow.

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 09:55 AM

Yeah that would be good. I bet the selectors wish that they hadn't rested Flintoff now!

HendrixDoorsWhoZeppelin

09-05-2004, 09:57 AM

Does anyone else here think that Vaughan shouldn't be on the One Day side?

And what about Mark Butcher? Doesn't he deserve a spot?

Does anyone remember Richard Johnson? What happened to him? I thought he was England's best seamer when he played.

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 10:00 AM

We shall see. If he does well today it will do him good, but if he gets less than about 30 he will be in alot of trouble and could possibly be gone. The problem is that he is captain, so it is harder to drop him from the team.

Richard Johnson does sound familiar, but don't know where he is.

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 10:00 AM

... and as for Butcher, he isn't as good in one-day cricket.

HendrixDoorsWhoZeppelin

09-05-2004, 10:07 AM

I think Hoggard really is quite mediocre and also Simon Jones.

free_thinkers_are_dangerous

09-05-2004, 10:10 AM

Just gloat about how you scored half your teams runs.

But still, random

Good to see this thread around again, keeps the memory of yatty alive (whether thats good or not is another thing)

I'm not gloating. If you paid attention, I said it was because I have basic hand-eye coordination.

I scored so many points because I'm competent and can hit a ball thrown soflty in my direction.

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 10:11 AM

Hoggard is a good test bowler, and has proved to be useful with the bat aswell. In one day I'm not sure about him though. And as for Simon Jones, he is a great bowler but has often just missed out due to James Anderson's presence.

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 10:26 AM

Ok now we are in seriously real trouble. 49-5, Collingwood ran out for 4. But Vaughan is still there...

Drop The Baby

09-05-2004, 11:05 AM

This is Vaughns chance to prove himself at one-day level.

Flintoff's in hospital for the birth of his child

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 11:40 AM

Well he has done it. A good 50, and Giles is partnering him well, and putting on a good score himself.

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 11:45 AM

Yes it would. 11 overs left and we need 62 runs with 4 wickets in hand. If Vaughan and Giles can put on about another 30 odd runs it will make it interesting, but if either of them get out soon, we are proper ****ed.

Drop The Baby

09-05-2004, 12:24 PM

Oh dear

mr snrub

09-05-2004, 01:49 PM

Oh dear oh dear

Adam Jones is GOD

09-05-2004, 02:21 PM

YAY! It feels like England have played like they used to now.

Seriously though, it was a bad game to lose, batting was poor today, minus the Vaughan/Giles partnership, but to be fair, India did play well and built up confidence. We could have lost worst, at least it was inconclusive.

HendrixDoorsWhoZeppelin

09-06-2004, 09:24 AM

This win is basically meaningless to India, because they beat England without Flintoff in a ODI, and that's the same as beating Bangladesh.

mr snrub

09-17-2004, 03:25 PM

ICC is starting well....

Ganondorf

09-17-2004, 04:21 PM

I'm rooting for India to win the ICC :thumb:

Ganondorf

09-17-2004, 04:22 PM

This win is basically meaningless to India, because they beat England without Flintoff in a ODI, and that's the same as beating Bangladesh.

Wow, you are an idiot. India didn't have Tendulkar but no one made that and excuse for Indias loss.

Ganondorf

09-21-2004, 12:49 PM

It's still not the World Cup. England have never won the big one.

gingerydoo

09-21-2004, 02:52 PM

Med=opalis is right, if a year ago someone had said to me that we'd beat the aussies in a ODI i would have thought they were taking the piss. so who are enlgand playing in the final?

med

09-21-2004, 03:21 PM

are you guys talking about the ICC champions trophy?

Adam Jones is GOD

09-21-2004, 04:22 PM

Class this as spam if you will, but as for todays win....

WOO HOO!

Nothing better than seeing the aussies getting owned, at last by us.

Bring on the ashes.......oh, and the ICC final too I suppose

mr snrub

09-23-2004, 09:23 AM

Yeah what a game, we were in control all match. Nothing better than seeing the Auzzies drop catches, and misfielding.

IKilledMyValentine

09-23-2004, 10:43 AM

England>Westindies

Whaddya think about the final
Both teams havent won any tournaments for years now!

Adam Jones is GOD

09-23-2004, 12:43 PM

If we win this, I think we have shown the world that we have got our act together in ODI, then we have to prove ourselves in the test arena.
I think its agreed that Twenty Twenty has been the decisive factor in our ODI performances

Adam Jones is GOD

09-25-2004, 03:58 PM

:bump:

The match today...discuss :(

Adam Jones is GOD

09-25-2004, 04:10 PM

well it was a major comeback from the Windies, we did have them for somehing like 157 - 8 I think, then they put on their biggest 9th wicket partnership in ODI EVER. So they did deserve it in the end. But im happy with what we accomplished to get there

andy

09-25-2004, 04:25 PM

cricket is stpifg

Yatty

09-29-2004, 03:51 AM

We beat Australia. In a one dayer for the first time in literally years. And Flintoff didn't play that well. :chug::chug::lol:

And now we're in a major tournament final. Suddenly everything seems good doesn't it?

It's only the champions trophy...just wait till the ashes ;)

Plus, England's cricket season is when the Aussies season is over, even though we tour alot and what not, it's just not the same. That COULD be a factor. I honestly don't know what happened in that match, as I couldn't watch it :upset:

It's only one match anyways, so don't get soo excited and say "HAHA, we beat the aussies, and now were gonna kick their *** in the ashes"

If anything, the aussies have learnt from their mistakes, and Australia is quite the professional side, a loss will only make them better, as I dare say, it hardly happens.

Teams need losses, to show their vulnariblities and weaknesses.

The aussies will now look at the match, and look at what went wrong, and practice and try to correct this.

Plus, aussies are just too **** cool :cool:

Ganondorf

09-29-2004, 12:21 PM

wooo go West Indies! That shut up all the cocky England cricket fans at school :D

Creedence Clearwater

11-05-2004, 12:57 AM

Sounds like desparation to me. ;). According to Ricky Ponting, the Aussies were outplayed, and couldn't cope mentally. Sure, you guys are still favourites for the Ashes, but it's not what you would have wanted, losing to us just as we started believing in ourselves finally.

It will be decades before England ever wins the ashes again, i will see to it personnally if need be

Till_Lindeman001

11-05-2004, 05:16 PM

pffft...we're still far superior in all forms of the game that count. And we beat the Aussies! :eek: Bring on South Africa is what I say. Pietersen in the ODI squad for the first time should be very interesting as well.

Hehe, we're gonna kick both their arses! First SA (doesn't look like too much of a challenge) then the Aussies at home, we CAN win if everyone is fit and Freddie is firing on all cylinders. Bring 'em on! :evil:

Wiggles

11-06-2004, 07:46 AM

No no no. Look guys our last chance to beat the Aussies in cricket was like 1991 and since then Gooch has retired. We're screwed.

PianoDan

11-06-2004, 07:57 AM

Mehehe, the last time England won the Ashes was in 1986-87. That's nearly 18 years ago. They will not beat Australia in the next Ashes series. They will not win an Ashes series for a long, long time, I reckon.:D

For anyone who's interested, http://www.aussiecricket.net is an Australian cricket site with forums open to any cricket fans from around the world.:thumb:

TouchNGo

11-07-2004, 07:05 PM

PianoDan

11-08-2004, 08:17 AM

weve got an interesting aussie summer coming up with new zealand, pakistan and west indies but i dont see the aussies dropping too many tests before the ashes series if the indian tour is anything to go by. however india were a little underdone. i predict a close ashes series but i think the aussies will triumph again :chug:
It is a very interesting summer. The Aussies will triumph in everything this summer - Pakistan always challenge, and New Zealand are a fighting team, but neither will pose a serious threat to Australia this summer. A close Ashes series would be great, but unfortunately I don't see that happening.

The Jolly Pakistani

11-09-2004, 05:08 AM

It is a very interesting summer. The Aussies will triumph in everything this summer - Pakistan always challenge, and New Zealand are a fighting team, but neither will pose a serious threat to Australia this summer. A close Ashes series would be great, but unfortunately I don't see that happening.

123

But I think Australia is going to flay Pakistan. We've lost our former glory...

PianoDan

11-09-2004, 06:40 AM

Well, one man no side coming to Australia this summer, or England, have had to reckon with yet is The Pup (a.k.a. Michael Clarke). Pup scored 400 runs from his first four Tests - and these against India in India. These at the age of 23. These runs eclipsed in the series only by Damien Martyn's superb string of two hundreds and a 97 in consecutive innings. Not to mention Clarke's 6 wickets at 2.17 with an incredible haul of 6-9. (Yes yes, it was a fluke, on a shocking wicket...)

Plus we still have Warne, we still have McGrath, Gillespie is in amazing form, Hauritz had a magnificent debut, Kasprowicz played well, Martyn is on top of the world, Hayden is Hayden, and it looks as though a batsman in the class of Darren Lehmann could be left out of this squad - to give some indication of the sheer strength of Australia's batting side.

Bring on the summer!!:D

cant_stand_me_now

11-09-2004, 03:49 PM

lol england in comparison have a fast improving side but not that good. we'll win 2 tests if we're lucky.

PianoDan

11-15-2004, 05:12 AM

Ah, the summer of cricket is finally upon us. The First Test against New Zealand starts on Thursday, with it looking like Stephen Fleming will end up playing, after fears he wouldn't due to a "mystery illness". New Zealand won't be too happy with their warm up match, though, losing to New South Wales by 9 wickets. This is a very poor result for them, and Australia will be very keen to get at them in the First Test match.

Katich has been dropped from the side to make way for Lehmann, with Michael Clarke retained after an amazing debut series in India. Warne will play, after breaking his thumb and missing the last Indian Test.

Bring it on!!!!

Creedence Clearwater

11-17-2004, 08:39 PM

PianoDan

11-18-2004, 06:12 AM

Just keep your eyes on Martyn
Oh I will.:D He really came of age in India. He's always been a brilliant playler, but scoring two 100s and a 97 in succession in India was great. He won't disappoint this summer.

Clarke will be most interesting to watch, too. Can he back up a huge debut series? I'd say he can. I hope he can.

Twat_Out_Of_Hell

11-18-2004, 11:27 AM

Haha, this thread is still going

Creedence Clearwater

11-18-2004, 06:08 PM

Oh I will.:D He really came of age in India. He's always been a brilliant playler, but scoring two 100s and a 97 in succession in India was great. He won't disappoint this summer.

Clarke will be most interesting to watch, too. Can he back up a huge debut series? I'd say he can. I hope he can.

yeah, everyone is pinning Clarke with a tag of Australia's cricketing future, but everyone seems to forget you need more than one player for the Aussie team is 6 years.

PianoDan

11-18-2004, 11:39 PM

yeah, everyone is pinning Clarke with a tag of Australia's cricketing future, but everyone seems to forget you need more than one player for the Aussie team is 6 years.
Too true, I agree. Still, a debut like that from a 23 year old doesn't occur that often. In 10 years time, he'll be the only player currently in the team still playing, unless Ponting doesn't retire until he's 40 (which is possible, really). Even blokes like Katich and fringe players like Brad Hodge won't be around then.

I think this is one reason why there's so much hype about Clarke being the future of Australian cricket, as just at the moment there aren't too many others which will be around for much longer.

Which is why it's so good that Clarke has made such a good start. Younger players like David Hussey and Shane Watson should start coming through in the not too distant future as the likes of Hayden and Langer start to fade out.

Pao Ferro

11-20-2004, 03:19 AM

Incredible day of cricket.

Clarke and Gilchrist were amazing, as per usual really. And McGrath gets a 50. :eek: I have never been more happy for a player in my life.

Creedence Clearwater

11-20-2004, 09:19 PM

Too true, I agree. Still, a debut like that from a 23 year old doesn't occur that often. In 10 years time, he'll be the only player currently in the team still playing, unless Ponting doesn't retire until he's 40 (which is possible, really). Even blokes like Katich and fringe players like Brad Hodge won't be around then.

I think this is one reason why there's so much hype about Clarke being the future of Australian cricket, as just at the moment there aren't too many others which will be around for much longer.

Which is why it's so good that Clarke has made such a good start. Younger players like David Hussey and Shane Watson should start coming through in the not too distant future as the likes of Hayden and Langer start to fade out.

Who cares about newer batsmen coming through when Gillespie and McGrath can put on 100 runs?

PianoDan

11-21-2004, 05:44 AM

Who cares about newer batsmen coming through when Gillespie and McGrath can put on 100 runs?
:lol: :lol:
I never thought the day would come when Pidgeon got a half tonne. I thought my Dad was having me on when he said McGrath got a 50 when I got home yesterday.

The New Zealanders will forever be known as the ones whom McGrath first scored a half-century against.

Brilliant Test Match it was. Really exciting stuff, from both teams really. New Zealand's come back in the first innings was very fighting, and very entertaining. Jacob Oram was fantastic. They bowled well to Australia until Marty, Clarke, and Gilchrist took the game away (and then McGrath and Gillespie took it even further). Then they just crumbled. Still, it was very entertaining cricket!

Creedence Clearwater

11-21-2004, 04:34 PM

:lol: :lol:
I never thought the day would come when Pidgeon got a half tonne. I thought my Dad was having me on when he said McGrath got a 50 when I got home yesterday.

The New Zealanders will forever be known as the ones whom McGrath first scored a half-century against.

Brilliant Test Match it was. Really exciting stuff, from both teams really. New Zealand's come back in the first innings was very fighting, and very entertaining. Jacob Oram was fantastic. They bowled well to Australia until Marty, Clarke, and Gilchrist took the game away (and then McGrath and Gillespie took it even further). Then they just crumbled. Still, it was very entertaining cricket!

McGraths first half century, I will be surprised if he gets another. Now its time for Junior to pay up. <-- I assume you understand :thumb:

Pao Ferro

11-22-2004, 03:38 AM

Matt Clarke (as I'm English) scares the hell out of me, and I think it's been quite a while since a new batsman has looked this good since coming into Test Cricket. As for McGrath, I thought Harmison discovering batting form in the summer was pretty comical, but McGrath scoring a test fifty is something that just never occured to me. I knew Gillespie could bat (I remember him sticking around at the crease for ages), but McGrath? You've got to feel sorry for New Zealand. :lol:

Do you mean Michael Clarke?

It was well overdue that 50. And it's salt in the wound when the worst batsman in international cricket can score a 50 against your bowling attack.

TouchNGo

11-22-2004, 04:00 AM

that test match = funniest match ever. mc grath scoring a half century along with gillespie and together they put on a century stand, gillespie riding his bat like a horse down the pich, NZ were bowled out for less than 80 and gilly had a blue with mc millan. a short, entertaining and amusing game of cricket had by all.

PianoDan

11-22-2004, 04:22 PM

McGraths first half century, I will be surprised if he gets another. Now its time for Junior to pay up. <-- I assume you understand :thumb:
Sure do. :thumb:

I don't reckon he'll get another, but there is one more Test against New Zealand yet.

Matt Clarke (as I'm English) scares the hell out of me, and I think it's been quite a while since a new batsman has looked this good since coming into Test Cricket.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.

It was well overdue that 50. And it's salt in the wound when the worst batsman in international cricket can score a 50 against your bowling attack.
I think McGrath has a case to argue that he no longer holds that enviable title of worst batsman in international cricket. I reckon New Zealand's Chris Martin could quite easily hold that title now.

Creedence Clearwater

11-22-2004, 06:10 PM

^^Well England does have 11 batsmen all vying for that title too :thumb:

Grey Incision

11-25-2004, 04:05 AM

..........................................i'm a new zealander :upset:

But i have to admit, our bowling wasn't at it's best, we were missing tuffey, shane bond (where the **** is he!), andre adams and chris butler, tuffey is the only one who bowls below 140 out of that lot, and the other 3 are very accurate. But still..............i am ashamed..................mcgrath..........50...... ......it's just not on :upset:

anyway, i'm going to the sydney one dayer(NZ vs AUS) in 2 weeks, anyone else goin?

TouchNGo

11-25-2004, 06:43 AM

i was so disapointed to hear that chris cairns had retired, i thought here we go NZ are coming out to australia with guns like fleming and cairns and bond, now i hear cairns is gone, fleming was crook and bond has disapeared.not that im worried cuz im an aussie :D its just i like to see the best cricketers playing and unfortunately for the kiwis, its not happening. i spose weve got pakistan who might be more competitve.

im not going to the game, ill be up the coast so i miss out on the v8s and cricket
:upset:

bassplaya225

11-27-2004, 11:43 PM

i reckon australia down fall will happen in a few years... the average international player for aust is something like 34 and they only have like 2 players under 30...they will all retire very soon i reckon so aboot 2006

bassplaya225

11-27-2004, 11:45 PM

lol i was soo surpirsed aboot mcgraths 50......he has a stirke rate of 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol the fifty still only took his average from 6.37 to a bit above 7.........

Electric Riley

11-28-2004, 12:11 AM

AHA New Zealand is getting creamed. Let's all point and laugh, and throw empty VB cans at them.

michael simmo

11-28-2004, 05:35 AM

[QUOTE=Yatty]Well this thread would probably be with me, stick-munch (who changed his avatar :angry: ) and jlightyearm only posting in it, but it's all good :thumb:

Anyways, anything to do with cricket goes in here :D

http://uk.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2004/JUL/016472_AUSSL2004_13JUL2004.html

I would like to say congrats to Shane Warne, he deserves it :thumb:

Warney, I reckon is a way better bowler than murali, so it was shown in the Sri Lankan tour this year. Even though murali took alot of wickets, he mainly took the lower end batsmen, and bowled alot more overs than warney. Warney on the other hand, has more of a variety with his bowling. Not to mention on the tour he got more of the better batters.

What do you guys think about Warney vs. Murali?

And, when will the downfall of Australia's dominance in cricket come around? My guess will be in 2 years time, not before that. Who knows? We'll still produce world class players, and be a competetive side no matter what.

warny is way better

michael simmo

11-28-2004, 05:41 AM

so the bowlers are called bowlers but the players are called players....interesting.

*re-strokes chin*

thats complete nonsense!

Your not funny

strangerdanger

11-28-2004, 05:42 AM

Warney was sensational against new zealand today.

When I saw it, he had bowled 20 overs, got five maidens and given away only 30 runs.

And he's back to top form, spinning frmo far outside leg stump over to off stump. Awesome to watch.

Other than him and ooh-aah's performances, the test against NZ has sucked.

michael simmo

11-28-2004, 05:43 AM

the players are called bowlers?

interesting. *strokes chin*

Your not funny

PianoDan

11-30-2004, 02:48 AM

^^Well England does have 11 batsmen all vying for that title too :thumb:
:lol: Good call. Though I am a fan of Michael Vaughan.

lol i was soo surpirsed aboot mcgraths 50......he has a stirke rate of 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol the fifty still only took his average from 6.37 to a bit above 7.........
Not sure who told you that, his strike rate is actually 41.44. In contrast, Justin Langer's strike rate is 52.35, Simon Katich's 51.02, Martin Love's 48.94, Ricky Ponting 57.88, and Damien Martyn's 51.47, to name just a few of the top order Australian batsmen's. This is higher, but not that much higher, considering McGrath is a number 11 batsman.

Grey Incision

11-30-2004, 03:30 AM

woodsinho

11-30-2004, 11:26 AM

Having a player with a high strike rate is pretty useful when chasing a hefty total on the 5th day of a match but i agree generally it's a pointless stat in test matches.

Creedence Clearwater

12-01-2004, 12:10 AM

Having a player with a high strike rate is pretty useful when chasing a hefty total on the 5th day of a match but i agree generally it's a pointless stat in test matches.

Short term strike rate is a good indicator of the batsmens form. ie. a high strike rate over a test series to me indicates a player in form.

And yes I know peoples responce is going to be "well what if his average is 4" In which case I will say that would be good for chris martin.

Maveryck

12-01-2004, 05:14 AM

New Zealand's second innings in the second test:

- Their top scorer was Daniel Vettori, a bowler, with 59.
- This is a lower score than McGrath's 61 in the First Test.

Conclusion:

New Zealand really need to get better at cricket. :)

Maveryck

12-01-2004, 05:47 AM

He's an all rounder actually. :p

And what do you expect with the preperation we had, and all the injuries?

Well I didn't hear about all the injuries and whatnot. I suppose if your players had a nightmare run of injuries before the series, then the NZ performance wouldn't look so bad.

After all, they were playing Australia! How well could they be expected to fare? :p

But still... your entire side got out-batted by Glenn McGrath... :amaze:

Maveryck

12-01-2004, 05:56 AM

The only games we had prior to facing Aussie was Bangladesh, plus all the injuries. We were extremely under prepared.

Don't even mention McGrath. :mad:

:lol:

At least tell me you beat Bangladesh... ;)

PianoDan

12-01-2004, 06:55 AM

who cares what your strike rate is? you could have a strike rate of 200 yet only have an average of 4, IMO, strike rate means nothing, if anything, it can mean a player is more aggresive than another player, ya know?
I never said strike rate was important, I was just correcting the guy who said that McGrath's strike rate was two, as this was incorrect. Strike rate isn't all that important in Test matches, though, as CC said, it can be a good indicator of form (on the other hand, it may not always be).

New Zealand do need to improve a lot at Test level at this stage, but I still think they have some potential. Daniel Vettori is a class spinner, and a handy bat too. Jacob Oram showed promise. Paul Wiseman didn't do too badly. Fleming is a good batsman. Astle is too. Sinclair could develop into a good opening batsman. Bond was injured for this tour, as was Tuffey.

Their One Day side is still quite competitive and the Chappell-Hadlee Trophy series (a three match series) should be quite interesting.

And one thing that did impress me at times was the fact that New Zealand again showed that they are a fighting side. Even without truly great players (which Australia have overflowing at the moment), they can still scrap and scrape and make a fight of things - they've always had this quality (as long as I've been following cricket, anyway). They showed signs of this in the first innings of the first Test (despite being rolled in the second innings), and even again at times in the second Test. Things didn't go too well for them this time around, though...

I am very much looking forward to the One Dayers (too bad I'll be away for the second two:()

Jace The Bass

12-06-2004, 01:17 AM

So who watched the cricket? :cool:

Yep I just watched the first one dayer :D

Man that was one tense game great win for us black caps which is very rare against you aussies ( although a couple of umpiring calls went our way but you get that )

But I must admit I was on edge right until the last over a victory to cherish :thumb:

Creedence Clearwater

12-06-2004, 06:56 PM

Yep I just watched the first one dayer :D

Man that was one tense game great win for us black caps which is very rare against you aussies ( although a couple of umpiring calls went our way but you get that )

But I must admit I was on edge right until the last over a victory to cherish :thumb:

Yeah, i was expecting a big game from martyn, a disapointing umpirering decision for sure but the aussie had the luck in that area in the test series.

Maveryck

12-07-2004, 07:08 AM

That was a very good match indeed.

Did anyone see that catch Sinclair took at deep midwicket?! That was incredible. I've only ever seen one catch better than that in my life.

Along with Marshall's innings, that really made NZ deserve their win in my opinion.

Creedence Clearwater

12-07-2004, 06:10 PM

Creedence Clearwater

12-07-2004, 06:13 PM

I guess this could go in politics, but what do people here think of England touring Zimbabwe, bearing in mind that they risked expulsion from the ICC had they not gone?

Teams will site political reasons for not touring, but if Zimbabwe had a more challenging side England would be more inclined. ie. Regardless of any political unrest in Australia, England would always take up the chance to play the best tem in the world. Do yo follow?

Till_Lindeman001

12-12-2004, 04:22 AM

Tell us about this better catch........

The only catches I have seen that was better was Collingwood against the Windies during the one-day series earlier this year, and the other is that famous Jonty Rhodes catch, the one that keeps getting replayed. But that catch by Sinclair was amazing, it gets better each time I see it.

davo_guitarman

12-13-2004, 07:47 AM

www.acb.com.au go there and check out the video highlights and stuff :thumb:
GOOD TO SEE SOME AUSSIES IN HERE!!!!! OZY OZY OZY OI!OI!OI! NEWAYZ I AM MAD ABOUT CRICKET ANYONE WANNA TALK CRICKET WITH ME EMAIL ME davo_guitarman@hotmail.com.......... :thumb: :D :naughty:

Jace The Bass

12-16-2004, 06:00 AM

Be intresting you guys going against Pakistan

Creedence Clearwater

12-16-2004, 06:01 PM

Be intresting you guys going against Pakistan

The come back means we are winning:thumb:

bassplaya225

12-17-2004, 12:51 AM

The only catches I have seen that was better was Collingwood against the Windies during the one-day series earlier this year, and the other is that famous Jonty Rhodes catch, the one that keeps getting replayed. But that catch by Sinclair was amazing, it gets better each time I see it.
i saw a better catch it was like 10 years ago. steve waugh took a cracker inside the circle. he was like 1 metre in the air and caught it one handed with his weak hand

Till_Lindeman001

12-17-2004, 02:44 AM

i saw a better catch it was like 10 years ago. steve waugh took a cracker inside the circle. he was like 1 metre in the air and caught it one handed with his weak hand

Sounds like a good catch to me, unfortunately I've never taken a great catch in a match personally, but a couple of good ones in training! :p

bassplaya225

12-17-2004, 08:08 PM

Sounds like a good catch to me, unfortunately I've never taken a great catch in a match personally, but a couple of good ones in training! :p

i no what you mean. i have not played cricket in a team but at skool all we play sometimes is classic catches :thumb:

bassplaya225

12-17-2004, 08:12 PM

a great site to go to is
http://www.stickcricket.com/

it is an online game of cricket where you bat and you can choose your team...

my highest score for 10 overs is 245 for 3

Jace The Bass

12-17-2004, 09:47 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4101731.stm

We're in command against SA, although once again, we can thank Freddie Flintoff for that...if we win this series, it'll be a real achievement. Sure, they're not the team of a few years ago, but we haven't won in South Africa for ages, and it would set us up nicely for a certain home series next year.

Yeah I admire England for their achievements that they have come so far esp. in Test although we had the wood on them in the One day Natwest series when NZ was about to embark on their Tour to England we were hoping this to be a whitewash series for us since we had a good lead up to the tour
But with England breeding some up and comming talent we were quite stunned and at the same time in awe of guys like Flintoff and more importantly Harmison
This should be some test when you guys come up against the Aussies in the ashes series which I'm lookin forward to
As usual those **** Aussies have got Warne who IMO is a gamebreaker
not to mention there awesome batting line up

Jace The Bass

12-17-2004, 10:01 PM

Maveryck

12-18-2004, 01:24 AM

Australia's totally destroying Pakistan in the First Test.

Till_Lindeman001

12-18-2004, 05:29 AM

As usual those **** Aussies have got Warne who IMO is a gamebreaker not to mention there awesome batting line up

Their test batting line up is very good but there is better (India) Their test bowling is good but there is better (probably England) and their fielding is very good but New Zealand's is better. Plus many of their batsmen are coming to the end of their carrers (Hayden, Ponting, Langer etc.) and there isn't much apart from Clarke coming through. Compare this to England and we have Butcher and Thorpe that are getting old and we have ready made replacements in Key, Pietersen, Bell and maybe Prior. The Ashes will probably come down to who is in better form come the first day at Lord's next year, if England can continue their run of form then we have a real chance to take the Ashes back.

mr snrub

12-18-2004, 06:34 PM

Strauss got a great century today as we finished on 227-1 after SA's total of 337, so it was a good day although we probably should of got them all out quicker.

Creedence Clearwater

12-19-2004, 01:03 AM

Their test batting line up is very good but there is better (India) Their test bowling is good but there is better (probably England) and their fielding is very good but New Zealand's is better. Plus many of their batsmen are coming to the end of their carrers (Hayden, Ponting, Langer etc.) and there isn't much apart from Clarke coming through. Compare this to England and we have Butcher and Thorpe that are getting old and we have ready made replacements in Key, Pietersen, Bell and maybe Prior. The Ashes will probably come down to who is in better form come the first day at Lord's next year, if England can continue their run of form then we have a real chance to take the Ashes back.

England are still ten years having a chance at winning the ashes again. Just because England havent lost this year, have a look at the opposite.

Just remeber too, cricket has more key aspects than just batting bowling and fielding, the Aussie are also the wolds best at knowing how to get the results, not to mention there ability to build pressure, and sledging ;)

Australian will mentally have the ashes won next year because England even takes the field for the first test.

Creedence Clearwater

12-19-2004, 01:04 AM

sorry because = before

Till_Lindeman001

12-19-2004, 11:39 AM

England are still ten years having a chance at winning the ashes again. Just because England havent lost this year, have a look at the opposite.

Just remeber too, cricket has more key aspects than just batting bowling and fielding, the Aussie are also the wolds best at knowing how to get the results, not to mention there ability to build pressure, and sledging ;)

Australian will mentally have the ashes won next year because England even takes the field for the first test.

The Aussie sledging is legendary, don't get me wrong, but 10 years before we have a chance?

At the very least we deserve to be recognised as a potential threat due to Harmison and Flintoff if not a very real and potent one. If we don't stand a chance this time, the we definitely do over the next 2-4 years, because, as I said before, the likes of Warne, McGrath, Langer and Ponting can't go on forever.

McGrath (although he took 8-24 today, a lot of those were absolute gifts from the batsmen) hasn't been doing the business regularly enough to be thought of as the world's best bowler, Warne only has one or two Ashes series left in him, along with Langer and Ponting, and there isn't a lot coming through for the Aussies, apart from Clarke who does look like a very good player, but a team is made up of 11 players.

England have a young side, Butcher and Thorpe are on their way out too, BUT, Key, Bell and Pietersen have all played for England, and played well too. We have a chance this time, nowhere near 50-50 but in the near future, the two sides will even out and we may actually have a competitive Ashes series for once!

Untitled

12-19-2004, 02:03 PM

Is anyone else annoy that sky have baught all the rights to english, home and away matched, from 06 (i think its 06) basicaly, after next year i cant watch the home games, i dont know whats going on away realy, just hear on the news, proberly why i dont post in here no more.

Channel 4 has a better theme too.

Creedence Clearwater

12-20-2004, 08:55 PM

The Aussie sledging is legendary, don't get me wrong, but 10 years before we have a chance?

At the very least we deserve to be recognised as a potential threat due to Harmison and Flintoff if not a very real and potent one. If we don't stand a chance this time, the we definitely do over the next 2-4 years, because, as I said before, the likes of Warne, McGrath, Langer and Ponting can't go on forever.

McGrath (although he took 8-24 today, a lot of those were absolute gifts from the batsmen) hasn't been doing the business regularly enough to be thought of as the world's best bowler, Warne only has one or two Ashes series left in him, along with Langer and Ponting, and there isn't a lot coming through for the Aussies, apart from Clarke who does look like a very good player, but a team is made up of 11 players.

England have a young side, Butcher and Thorpe are on their way out too, BUT, Key, Bell and Pietersen have all played for England, and played well too. We have a chance this time, nowhere near 50-50 but in the near future, the two sides will even out and we may actually have a competitive Ashes series for once!

Ponting is actually the second youngest in the team. And I stand by 10 years. Maybe you dont see much of it in England, but Australia's domestic competition has plenty of talent ready to go. Just look at all the times when a touring side (namely England) not only gets smashed by the Aussie test team but all the state side too.

DeLonge_1_8_2

12-21-2004, 06:16 AM

Eng kick ***, but i still dont think we'll beat the aussies. Loads people i know think were gonna beat 'em 3-0. I got news for them. Recently aus got out of a poition of 75-5 or sommit like that and posted 280 odd or sommit. Any way id like to see eng do that and then win by 400+ runs. Were a really good side but were nothin against the aussies.

Cricket rules :thumb:

Nightvision

12-22-2004, 12:30 AM

Nightvision

12-22-2004, 12:32 AM

...am I the only one that seems to think Rob Key is too much of a leg side player, by the way?

DeLonge_1_8_2

12-22-2004, 07:01 AM

Strauss, Flintoff and Giles - the three most important cricketers in our side. Without them, I'd hate to think what we'd be like. Having said that...
Gilchrist, Warne, Langer - Without those three the Aussies would be pretty depleted as well - I'm finally starting to believe we as a cricketing nation are on a par with the Aussies... Although we do still seem to be a little inconsistent - it really all depends which England team show up.
If it's the one that showed up on Day two of this match, then I'm looking forward to it. If it's the day three side, I'm not holding my breath...

i agree with you about the inconsistancy. For instance harmison either bowls amasing or s h i t house! it also seems that if vaughan plays to the best of his ability, Eng will win every time. He's the most inconsistant out of the lost. If he performs were unstopable, if not were still in with a chance tho.

Till_Lindeman001

12-22-2004, 08:55 AM

i agree with you about the inconsistancy. For instance harmison either bowls amasing or s h i t house! it also seems that if vaughan plays to the best of his ability, Eng will win every time. He's the most inconsistant out of the lost. If he performs were unstopable, if not were still in with a chance tho.

Vaughan infuriates me, he's a great player and an excellent captain, his technique really is great to watch WHEN he's in full flow, I get the feeling that he hates being outscored by anyone, he tries to do too much too soon in his innings and gives chances he shouldn't be giving, but, his dismissal in the second innings was pretty much an unstoppable ball.

As for Harmison, he can't take 7-12 in every innings, sometimes even the best have off-days, even Warne and Murali do it, Personally, I'd love to see Harmy bowl at the WACA, the fastest pitch in international cricket, on a hot sunny day, because I think he can get close to 100mph, he bowled 97.2mph in September at the Rose Bowl, not an particularly quick pitch.

DeLonge_1_8_2

12-22-2004, 08:58 AM

kk. but pace isn't everything. Brett lee's, on average, faster than harmy and he doesnt even get picked. That pisses me off, cos lee's my fav player

Creedence Clearwater

12-22-2004, 06:43 PM

Creedence Clearwater

12-22-2004, 06:52 PM

Vaughan infuriates me, he's a great player and an excellent captain, his technique really is great to watch WHEN he's in full flow, I get the feeling that he hates being outscored by anyone, he tries to do too much too soon in his innings and gives chances he shouldn't be giving, but, his dismissal in the second innings was pretty much an unstoppable ball.

As for Harmison, he can't take 7-12 in every innings, sometimes even the best have off-days, even Warne and Murali do it, Personally, I'd love to see Harmy bowl at the WACA, the fastest pitch in international cricket, on a hot sunny day, because I think he can get close to 100mph, he bowled 97.2mph in September at the Rose Bowl, not an particularly quick pitch.

Actually the WACA doesn't make people bowl faster, it just bounces more, and when a ball bounces of the pitch it loses all its speed, ie. a yorker or full toss is the fastest ball one can bowl. ie. Jeff Thompson's sand-shoe crushers.
The fastest ball bowled in resent times I remeber was a full toss from Aktar that hit Langer on the gloves (only one of them got 200) that was in 2000/2001 or something.

And yes, I love Jeff Thompson, consistenly over 155km/h, at training if you put the bowling machine on 155km/h I hit maybe 3 out of 10 max of the face.

bassplaya225

12-22-2004, 11:49 PM

Ponting is actually the second youngest in the team. And I stand by 10 years. Maybe you dont see much of it in England, but Australia's domestic competition has plenty of talent ready to go. Just look at all the times when a touring side (namely England) not only gets smashed by the Aussie test team but all the state side too.

i disagree. in a coupla years australia will lose its dominance of international cricket. all except like 2 players in the test team are under 30 and then they are 29 and like 24 y.o. the others above thirty years of age are mid to late 30's and the average age is somethin like 35.

wen these players leave australia will find itself in a position with a team with very little interantional experience and another side will dominate international cricket.

australia does have a decent domestic competition that will grow to become a good side but they will still losefor a period of time until the selectors find the perfect combination of players..

lol that is just the way i see it and i am probably wrong lol

Jace The Bass

12-23-2004, 12:12 AM

Wow this is a good build up towards the ashes personally I'd rather see both teams go down the drain ( LOL ) so the black caps can take over
Sadly though in reality it aint gonna happen Dammit hadlee why did you have to retire

DeLonge_1_8_2

12-23-2004, 04:49 AM

i disagree. in a coupla years australia will lose its dominance of international cricket. all except like 2 players in the test team are under 30 and then they are 29 and like 24 y.o. the others above thirty years of age are mid to late 30's and the average age is somethin like 35.

wen these players leave australia will find itself in a position with a team with very little interantional experience and another side will dominate international cricket.

australia does have a decent domestic competition that will grow to become a good side but they will still losefor a period of time until the selectors find the perfect combination of players..

lol that is just the way i see it and i am probably wrong lol

Micheal clarks going to be the next ledgend if you ask me. Hes only 23 and yet he's amasing. Eng are now way near as good as aus. Alot of the aus players in state cricket could play for our first team.

BTW, im english and a massive eng fan.

bassplaya225

12-23-2004, 08:03 PM

so true...michael clarke has it in him to be the best batsmen in the world

Jace The Bass

12-24-2004, 12:01 AM

**** aussies they always get the good players

DeLonge_1_8_2

12-25-2004, 05:56 PM

This weeks kick *** for cricket. Aus play pak, followed by eng v south af. Every ****in day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DeLonge_1_8_2

12-26-2004, 03:50 PM

Mh my f ucking god........................................did my eyes see correctly, or did bangladesh just beat india in an odi.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Junooni

12-26-2004, 11:35 PM

pakistans gonna own all.

The Jolly Pakistani

12-26-2004, 11:45 PM

holy ****...another Paki on the boards...THAT LISTENS TO ****ING JUNOON.

oh my...

oh my...

mr snrub

12-28-2004, 09:20 AM

Great day today for England. Ending on 281-1 and almost 90 ahead. Strauss and Trescothick had an amazing partnership, first double-century opening partnership since 1991 apparently. But since SA got the new ball they have looked much more dangerous, and it's going to be a great finish to the test match.

Creedence Clearwater

12-28-2004, 07:55 PM

Its all good, Australia is winning too.

woodsinho

12-30-2004, 10:16 AM

Bad light is the only thing that ends the run. Well, it still wasn't a guaranteed thing but i don't think ntini and steyn were going to be able to hang around with devilliers for 15 more overs. Shame. Cracking match though and at least it's not a loss, so that makes it 13 unbeaten in a row.

mr snrub

01-04-2005, 09:21 AM

Whoa, we are getting a whopping in the 3rd Test. Already over 400 runs behind, and Kallis and Dipenaar are putting on a good partnership now. Looks like it is going to be a bad start to 2005, unless the weather favours us like it did SA at Durban.

Creedence Clearwater

01-04-2005, 07:25 PM

Its all godd, Australia is still winning.

Ganondorf

01-05-2005, 01:44 AM

Glad that India didn't let the Bangladesh defeat get them down :) We went in the next day and demolished them :D

Oh yeah, you guys heard of the ICC XI vs Asia XI for the tsunami victims?

Go Asia!

Maveryck

01-05-2005, 01:55 AM

Yeah, on January 10th, at the MCG, a team from Asia (Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh) is taking on a team from the rest of the world (Australia, New Zealand, England, West Indies), as a charity event for the victims of the recent tsunami in Asia.

There will also be a second match between those teams, held in either India or Sri Lanka, at a date yet to be confirmed.

Ganondorf

01-05-2005, 10:21 AM

Yeah, these are the teams

Ricky Ponting (c) (AUS)
Matthew Hayden (AUS)
Adam Gilchrist (AUS)
Shane Warne (AUS)
Glenn McGrath (AUS)
Darren Gough (ENG)
Stephen Fleming (NZ)
Chris Cairns (NZ)
Daniel Vettori (NZ)
Brian Lara (WI)
Chris Gayle (WI)
Dwayne Bravo (WI)

Sourav Ganguly (c) ( IND)
Alok Kapali (BAN)
Sachin Tendulkar ( IND)
Rahul Dravid ( IND)
Anil Kumble ( IND)
Zaheer Khan ( IND)
Shoaib Akhtar (PAK)
Yousuf Youhana (PAK)
Sanath Jayasuriya (SL)
Marvan Atapattu (SL)
Chaminda Vaas (SL)
Kumar Sangakkara (SL)
Muttiah Muralitharan (SL)

mr snrub

01-05-2005, 10:43 AM

That will be a really good match, and it is good that they have organised it so quickly. Good to see that cricket is doing it's part to help.

Jace The Bass

01-05-2005, 09:39 PM

Wow I like the look of the teams esp. the two leg spinners warne v's mulli can't wait

Jace The Bass

01-06-2005, 03:45 PM

LoL- I just heard that England are in trouble and could lose the test which will be a first for a while
All they can do is hope a big long partnership saves them or the weather gives them a chance
Frankly I hope it's fine ( LOL )

Dr J

01-07-2005, 07:02 AM

i cant wait to see gilly and ponts... they are both in awesome form. Man i wish i could strike the ball like Gilly. Well better head off, gotta play in the morning

Twat_Out_Of_Hell

01-07-2005, 09:56 AM

Gilchrist is amazing, i always love watching him bat. His record of 14 hundreds is incredible, he hasn't played that long and his strike rate is even more impressive when you realise he's batting with the tail regularly at number 7

Ganondorf

01-07-2005, 05:49 PM

Tendulkar batting is better :p

G_Mac07

01-09-2005, 11:26 PM

Anybody watching the Asia vs. Rest of the World match?? I won't post any spoilers if you haven't seen it yet, but RotW are doing fairly well. And it's great to see how much money is being donated to the tsunami victims.

Ganondorf

01-10-2005, 12:22 AM

Nah, what channel is it on in England?

I am keeping with the scores on the bbc website though, the Rest of the World are doing pretty well.

According to the BBC website, Tendulkar isn't in the team, is this true? The ICC website says he is. Oh, by the way....

Pakistan all-rounder Abdul Razzaq has been drafted into the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) XI to replace injured Pakistan paceman Shoaib Akhtar.

Shoaib Akhtar was forced to withdraw from the charity game due to a hamstring injury.

G_Mac07

01-10-2005, 12:57 AM

i'm an Aussie, so I have no idea what channel it's on in England, you might get to see a delayed version or something. ROW innings just finished, and they made an awesome score.

Tendulkar appeared in the field for about half an hour. He can't bat, or use his left arm at all really, because he is suffering from Tennis Elbow i think they said.

Maveryck

01-10-2005, 01:25 AM

It's excellent.

They're accepting phone-in donations from the public, all ticket sales are going to charity, Qantas flew in all the players for free, 3 is giving $1,000 per run scored to charity, and Toyota is giving $50,000 per six scored to charity.

Plus, they're auctioning off the jerseys of each player on EBay (Shane Warne's has already reached $25,000), and the commemorative coin tossed by PM Howard at the start of the game.

And the game's good as well. I just hope the Asia side can get a good score, and make the finish interesting. :thumb:

G_Mac07

01-10-2005, 07:37 AM

3 Mobile also gave an additional $4000 for each time a four was hit, and Toyota made a $500,000 donation, although only $350,000 was raised by hitting sixes.

Ganondorf

01-10-2005, 10:01 AM

The World Team won, oh well :p

Dosen't matter who won, the cause was good :)

G_Mac07

01-10-2005, 10:48 AM

Yeah it's a shame the second innings didn't really make for an exciting finish though. And I hear there is to be another tsunami appeal match held in Asia some time soon. Is this true?

Jace The Bass

01-10-2005, 03:22 PM

Yeah just the occasion was good enough for me just seeing some of the best players from around the world get together to help the people that have suffered
And yes the next match is next month but thumbs up for the organizers and to the people that all donated as well as a good game

Creedence Clearwater

01-11-2005, 05:38 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4158803.stm

Here's more on it, for those of you who are interested...the question must be raised though. Glenn McGrath? Batting at No.6?

:eek:

Aussies are getting ready to reverse the batting order for the ashes tour :lol:

I assume your cricketing knowledge strethches to pre WWII when test team would reverse there batting order if it rained on the rest day of the test. Yes, thats right the Don would bat at nine.

Creedence Clearwater

01-11-2005, 05:58 AM

What so there is no one to discuss cricket history with,

/another conversation I will have with myself........

Jace The Bass

01-11-2005, 07:25 AM

Is it true that whichever team tops the list this year in both test and one day internationals will play a team of the rest of the world
So far the aussies seem to be the team so far so if they achieved it they play a team comprising of players from the rest of the world now wouldn't that be a match
Man the aussies will then need to play well here would be my rest of the world team

Sachin Tendulkar -IND
Brian Lara -WI
Andrew Flintoff -ENG
Chris Carins -NZ
Steve Harmison -ENG
Jacq Kallis -SA
Sohaib Akhtar -PAK
Muttiah Muralitharan -SL
Rahul Dravid -IND
Chris gayle -WI
Stephen Fleming -NZ (c)

True I forgot he could wicketkeep as well :thumb:

Ganondorf

01-11-2005, 10:36 AM

Come on, I would add Rahul Dravid of India to that. And change the captainship to Brian Lara.

Ganondorf

01-12-2005, 12:59 AM

That's a great team, mine would be more or less the same.

Grey Incision

01-12-2005, 05:10 AM

Hmm...my current world XI to face Australia would be, in batting order:

1. Graeme Smith (c)
2. Chris Gayle
3. Brian Lara
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Rahul Dravid (w/k)
6. Jacques Kallis
7. Andrew Flintoff
8. Shaun Pollock
9. Shoaib Akhtar
10. Steve Harmison
11. Muttiah Muralitharan

It would still be a close game, but that team can score test match hundreds down to No.8, their last 3 batsmen are all entertainers, who can score fast, and in terms of the bowling attack...everyone batting from #6 down definitely, and Gayle and Tendulkar can both bowl containing spin. Admittedly Dravid keeping isn't ideal, but he's done it for India before, and is pretty solid there.

gee med, i expected more from you, where are the kiwi's? stephen flemind's captaincy > graeme smith's captaincy

fleming is the world's best captain today i would say, i would say better than ponting.

i would actually have Jayasuriya instead of smith as opening bat with gayle, i don't think smith would fit well into that side. and put fleming at 3, move lara to 4, his regular position. I would have sachin at 5, have kallis 6, and dravid 7.

I would add Chris cairns instead of Flintoff and Chaminda Vaas instead of pollock. Akhtar, harmison and murali are all good options (****, no vettori)

my lineup would be

1.Chris Gayle
2.Jayasuriya
3.Stephen fleming(c)
4.Brian Lara
5.Sachin tendulkar
6.Jacques Kallis
7.Rahul Dravid(w/k)
8.Chris Cairns
9.Chaminda Vaas
10.Shoaib akhtar
11.Murali
12. Steve harmison.

now there's a powerful lineup

Grey Incision

01-12-2005, 08:35 PM

Hmm...my issue with that lineup is pretty simple...while Fleming's the best captain in world cricket, I personally would rather have Smith as quite a good captain, and, in my opinion, the better batsman. Also, with the balance of that side, I just think that Dravid's batting too low for me as well. It's a very good team, but I can see a situation where Gayle and Jayasuria get out early, after going on the attack, which you could also see Lara doing. I guess I picked my team going on batting ability, then the captaincy, while you may have done it the other way round. In all fairness though, my toughest pick was probably Smith/Fleming. I'm a huge fan of Flintoff and Harmison (maybe a bit biased :p), so they'd both start for me as well, with Cairns as my twelfth man.

/just remembered it's going to be a TEST, not a one dayer

my lineup changes completely now, i would not have fleming as the test captain, stay with smith, definatly, no jayasuriya, he is a one day player, so is gayle. so no gayle either.

i would still keep cairns, akhtar and murali, but i wouldn't have vaas, i would put harmison there, so my TEST lineup would look like this:

1.Graeme smith(c)
2.Salman butt
3.Rahul Dravid
4.Brian Lara
5.Sachin Tendulkar
6.Jacques Kallis
7.Kumar Sangakara(w/k)
8.Chris Cairns
9.Shoaib Akhtar
10.Steve Harmison
11.Muttiah Muralitheran

12. Andrew Flintoff

Edit:I disagree with Smith as the better batsmen, personally, i think he just swings at the ball, he cannot play an off drive/cover drive for the life of him, his foot movement is sluggish, he tendss to plaster his front foot to the ground and swing, he has such a good eye, that he connects 90% of the time, but he does get found out by the better bowlers.

plus Fleming is like my hero because i am a kiwi(living in Aus.:()

G_Mac07

01-12-2005, 09:07 PM

plus Fleming is like my hero because i am a kiwi(living in Aus.:()

Aus is where it's at:D

Anyway, nice side you picked, although I do like Shaun Pollock, as was mentioned by Med. However, I can't see anybody in your side that I would want to replace with him. Oh well...

Maveryck

01-13-2005, 09:45 AM

Anyone else see the 20/20 match between Pakistan and Australia A last night?

For those who don't know, it's 20 overs per side, 4 overs maximum per bowler, 2 run penalty for no balls (hehe), and the whole thing takes about 3 hours from start to finish.

It makes for some insane batting performances. For example, Australia A scored 186 runs off 20 overs - that's more than 9 runs per over.

Ganondorf

01-13-2005, 10:08 AM

Is 20/20 when you get different runs for hitting in different parts of the feild?

Adam Jones is GOD

01-13-2005, 12:25 PM

Good to see a slight return to batting form for us. Im hoping we'll be more agressive in the field this time, last match our tactics were terrible, and it cost us half the runs they scored.

Yet again though, i forgot it started today, so im going to be watching highlights asap.

G_Mac07

01-16-2005, 02:02 AM

Australia just downed Pakistan again in a one dayer. Wasn't a bad match though, the paki's being slightly more competitive than the last few times I've seen them.

Grey Incision

01-16-2005, 04:02 AM

Australia just downed Pakistan again in a one dayer. Wasn't a bad match though, the paki's being slightly more competitive than the last few times I've seen them.

true, but the paki's are an extremely inconsistent side, one moment they will be on top of their game, and the next, they will be completely out of it, they are a side that takes a lot of risks, and if they pay off, they are very competitive, if they don't, they get slaughtered. thoughts anyone?