Official Cricket Thread

[DrummingBen]

Good sledging can win games. Journalists aren't exactly known for providing the whole truth either.

[Aotearoa]

Can also cost you though if your caught. Herschelle Gibbs did a great job a couple of months ago where he was caught on the stump microphone saying to some Indian players "bunch of animals, you should go back to the zoo". Cost him fines and a 2 game suspension. That kind of sledging, which occurs often enough, has no place in the game.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

http://www.hindu.com/2004/01/01/stories/2004010101272100.htm

http://blogs.cricinfo.com/meninwhite/archives/2007/03/dramatis_personae_australia.php

etc.

[Alf™]

Every team sledges, we have already established that.

[TheBigMachine]

http://www.hindu.com/2004/01/01/stories/2004010101272100.htm

http://blogs.cricinfo.com/meninwhite/archives/2007/03/dramatis_personae_australia.php

etc.

You think all the other teams don't say anything along the same lines? To be honest, i saw nothing that's even worth a mention in that article. I'm amazed the article exists at all. That goes for both of them.

[Grumma]

And like the first article touches on: If it was bad enough the umpires would do something about it.

So obviously they don't feel it's going overboard a very large % of the time

[TheBigMachine]

Exactly.
So let's all get over it and stop whining like small children who have just lost their lolly pop.

[antihippy]

but i love my lollipop.......

[poorquality]

It's probably been mentioned, but on the subject of sledging or trying to rile the batsmen up, anyone see the Irish fans singing "What will we do with the drunken sailor?" When Freddy was batting? I laughed at that.

I can't wait for England vs Aus because of both sides just going at each other verbally, I hope Flintoff can take the drunk jibes and turn it into a winning century or something....doubtful but hey...who would of said Ireland would get to the Super 8's? Anything is possible in cricket B)

[RandyfromPennywise]

haha, I wish. We'd have beaten England comfortably in that case.

Ahahaha, you might be being a bit harsh on the Irish fellas. Is it right to say 'be being'? God that sounds ugly.

Yeah The Huss' stats aren't good recently, but I feel he'll score a 100 in the tournament sometime.

Really can't see myself watching the game tonight. There is live Premier League on, the Brumbies are playing at 12.30, and I've got to play soccer tomorrow at 11am. But I will watch parts of it.

[samthebassman]

ffs, have you ever read the news? If you had, you'd realise that Australian sledging is the worst in the sport. And it's almost always either personal or racist.


There is a reason that no-one outside of Australia likes the Australian cricket team, you know.

You talk some rubbish bro.

[RandyfromPennywise]

What's with all the shenanigans in this thread? Leave it out like. I'm not reading all this crap but yeah the Aussies sledge, but from this last summer we had it was clear that Paul Nixon from England was the worst of the lot.

[samthebassman]

Can also cost you though if your caught. Herschelle Gibbs did a great job a couple of months ago where he was caught on the stump microphone saying to some Indian players "bunch of animals, you should go back to the zoo". Cost him fines and a 2 game suspension. That kind of sledging, which occurs often enough, has no place in the game.

This is true, there is no place in the game for that rubbish but not all sledging is racist, personal stuff, alot of it is gamesmanship, and that comes with competitive sport and is a healthy part of the game.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Most sledging I experienced was just questioning the batsmen's temperament, their manhood, their confidence in themselves. One of the funniest ones I heard, not coz it's particularly witty or anything, it was just the way it was said, the delivery of it was brilliant - "This cumnut can't even hit it off the square. He's still waiting for his balls to drop. I'll bet you 20 neither happens today."

My best moments of talking/banter on a cricket field were "Come on lads, it's slipping away from us", after we had already lost the game (I didn't know what the score was, I thought they were like 100 behind - they had won about 20 minutes before that call), and the time when I clapped for an entire over.

[samthebassman]

Some of the sledges I have read from the Aussies have been hilarious! I cant believe Warney called Ian Bell "sherminator" all summer, I would love to be out there to hear all the banter.

[samthebassman]

The ground where the Aussies and Bangies are playing is underwater, they might not get on for a few hours if at all.

[antihippy]

glen mcgrath pretty much gave australians the bad image of sledging though.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

I'm not complaining about all sledging. Most of it's good fun. But some people take it too far, and the Aussies are known for doing it.


It's always hilarious hearing all of the **** people talk on the field, especially when it's aimed at someone I hate. U/17's cricket is about as verbal as it gets in cricket tbh.

[Untitled]

"wharney, why are you so fat?"
"cause every time i **** your wife she gives me a buiscuit"

Hahahahaha.

Its said that whatever is said on the pitch, stays on the pitch, most of it is in good fun.

hahaaaaaa Muralitharan used to play for Lancashire, mint.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

So, apparantly Malinga's action came about because he played 'tennis ball cricket' when he was younger, and he developed a slinging action to get more pace. Switching to leather never affected his action. Weird, huh?

[Rrrrrrr]

That action gives him pace but not much else imo. As far as I can tell his only real strength is the yorker. I hope he learns a few new tricks as he gains experience.

[samthebassman]

Yeah his obvious strength is his yorker & his blistering pace, also an action that isnt easy to face. He is very similar to Shaun Tait, perhaps not as quick and doesnt swing it with the new ball.

Crappy news about Watto again, the bloke cannot catch a break, hopefully he pulls up alright from a calf strain but Im not counting on it

[Aotearoa]

The reason Malinga so hard to bat against is because of where he releases the ball. He has almost the same angle as a baseball pitcher. When he played against NZ in December the NZ batsmen asked the umpires to wear something dark around their waists so they could actually see the ball. I just dont know how he can be accurate with that kind of style

[samthebassman]

Yeah that is very true

[TheBigMachine]

The reason Malinga so hard to bat against is because of where he releases the ball. He has almost the same angle as a baseball pitcher. When he played against NZ in December the NZ batsmen asked the umpires to wear something dark around their waists so they could actually see the ball. I just dont know how he can be accurate with that kind of style

Practice makes perfect. Work at the action long enough, and you'll get good at it.

[samthebassman]

It is funny, he has a crazy action with heaps of flaws in it, which normally causes fast bowlers to break down with injury, but I bet if his coaches tried to change his action he would break down immeadiatly, because his body is be so used to slinging it down.

[Untitled]

So, apparantly Malinga's action came about because he played 'tennis ball cricket' when he was younger, and he developed a slinging action to get more pace. Switching to leather never affected his action. Weird, huh?

Yeah i read that, apparently the trainers and coaches didnt want to change his action and let him keep it how it is, nice and natural.

I thaught he did it like that though because if he did it normaly, the tennis ball would bounce a lot higher then a corky, so he did that to lower the bounce.

[Rrrrrrr]

Jayasuriya has a century and Jayawardene has a fifty. That's a relief after those two early wickets. Too bad I can't watch the match :(

[RandyfromPennywise]

'Lanka doing well.

Watson, well maybe his body just isn't up to the strains of being an international cricket, or fast-bowling all-rounder no less. Reminds me of David Dunn (in Football).

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Sri Lanka made 303, great batting from Jayasuria and Jayawardene who put on a 183 run partnership.


gogogogogogo SL

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Windies all out for 190. Comprehensive victory from the Sri Lankans.



:D

[Rrrrrrr]

No prizes for guessing the man of the match. Jayasuriya's having a good tournament. This is his last World Cup, he deserves to go in style.

[samthebassman]

The Windies ahve been the biggest disappointment in this world cup, they normally play well in the big tournaments but they are struggling here.

[Untitled]

The Windies ahve been the biggest disappointment in this world cup, they normally play well in the big tournaments but they are struggling here.

Im thinking the pressure from the expectant crowd may play some part, and arnt quite a few of them getting old too?

[samthebassman]

Lara is on his last legs and will retire soon but apart from that they are still a relatively young team, Chanderpaul & Gayle have been around for a while but they still have a few years left in them.

[Aotearoa]

Im thinking the pressure from the expectant crowd may play some part, and arnt quite a few of them getting old too?

What crowds? Thats been one of the most disappointing things about this tournament, no ones turning up.

[Rrrrrrr]

What crowds? Thats been one of the most disappointing things about this tournament, no ones turning up.
With good reason, apparently.
The pricing structure here verges on the scandalous and highlights what is increasingly becoming a cancer for the modern game - rampant commercialism, which was once known more simply as greed. In Guyana, one of the poorer nations in the world, the cheapest ticket for a place on the grass is US$25 (£12.60). It can cost up to $100 for a seat.

[...]

It will be no more than the organisers deserve if the home team’s exit from the competition ... plunges the box office into deeper crisis. The cheapest ticket at grounds across the West Indies is $25, or around £13, which is just about the average weekly wage of someone working in the sugar industry in Guyana. Malcolm Speed, chief executive of the International Cricket Council, is once more in Pontius Pilate mode. He said: ‘We had to rely on the advice of the local organising committee to establish the prices of the tickets. It is, in retrospect, a little too rich for the local palate'.
http://blogs.cricinfo.com/surfer/archives/2007/04/a_cup_diminishe.php

[samthebassman]

Wow, that is a disgrace!

[antihippy]

i would not spend a weeks pay just to watch a cricket game.

[TheBigMachine]

They're not anything close to that for international games in Australia though, are they?

[JumpTheF**kUp]

In Australia it's between 40 - 100 (Aus) to watch an International game with Australia playing. A fair bit cheaper if it's two teams who aren't. But you have to look at it comparitively. People in Australia earn an average of about $1000 (Aus) a week, so that's less than a tenth of their pay, whereas for West Indians, its their whole paycheck. And that's not even for a seat, its for grass.

[Britney Diva]

When this happens in other sports they just give the tickets away. Surely there's enough interest over there to warrant dropping the prices to fill the stadiums?

[RandyfromPennywise]

There is, but the ICC are stupids.

Tickets in Aus are a bit pricey, not so bad for students, when we went to the one-day final at the 'G our tickets were $28 each for us students, $35 for full price. That's pretty decent really. Like 8 hours entertainment.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

One day at the Ashes is about a hundred dollars though right?

[RandyfromPennywise]

In England it is, cricket is stupidly expensive in England. It's still like that gentleman's game and that I imagine, whereas in Aus it's your chance to be a massive yobo and drink beer and perve at hot chicks.

Australia is better than England. :)

[samthebassman]

Far better.

[Grumma]

I have to wonder why New Zealand continue to persist with James Franklin

[antihippy]

godamn it, bangladesh lost.

at least they had a good run.

[Grumma]

They got absolutely plastered that's what :p

[TheBigMachine]

Man, I must say, Australia are looking great for the finals. It's going to be a big upset if they lose imo.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Just wanted to give you guys a heads up. I'm leaving. See youse all. It's been great talking cricket with you lot, really. I'll probably drop in every few months and I'll be back in about November.

Have fun guys, especiallly BigMachine, Randy, Badtaste, Alf, Rrrrr, Antihippy, Grumma, Untitled and Sam. Sorry if I've forgotten some of you.

sam, pls refer to my journal.




And for my final words:




SRI LANKA FOR THE WORLD CUP


:)

[eug008]

Cya later mang. Nice knowing you.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

oshi forgot about you bro


later man :wave:

[RandyfromPennywise]

Dude, what is going on, first badtaste left, now you, this place is getting cleared out! Been good talking about willow and leather with you. Ah well good luck with whatever you're doing, and Australia for the World Cup!

[samthebassman]

See ya bro, it has been fun arguing!

[Rrrrrrr]

tch, i guess that leaves me the lone Sri Lanka fan in here

/brandishes sword furiously

Back, convicts! Back, I say!

[samthebassman]

You will need more than a sword to beat the Aussies.

[PianoDan]

Sri Lanka will make the semis, but they won't beat Australia. Nobody will beat Australia once the semis come around. New Zealand looks good. South Africa haven't brushed off the choker tag just because they chased down 434, and I think they're looking on the way down anyway. England might start pulling together but won't be a serious threat, even if Vaughan doesn't miss a game. Australia might get beaten in the super 8 rounds, but the only teams who might beat them are New Zealand or Sri Lanka.

[samthebassman]

You tell nothing but the truth wise man!

[TheBigMachine]

Heh PianoDan, never seen before, comes in and imparts his cricketing knowledge.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Love the random knowledge comment. He's fairly accurate I must say. NZ, Lanka, SA and Aus are the four best teams.

[Liberi Fatali]

Heh PianoDan, never seen before, comes in and imparts his cricketing knowledge.
He has 66 posts in this thread.

[Untitled]

England Vs Sri Lanker today, im not expecting much on our part if we proform how we have, the team defiantly has the potential to beat SL, but proberbly wont.

[RCVA]

I'm going round my mates house to watch this.

I haven't seen a game of cricket since the Adelaide test.


I hate Sky.

[Untitled]

I'm going round my mates house to watch this.

I haven't seen a game of cricket since the Adelaide test.


I hate Sky.

Im in work for a lot of the match :(

Ill just read the live over by over thing or listen to TMS, i dunno yet.

[PianoDan]

He has 66 posts in this thread.
Thanks for pointing that out.

England Vs Sri Lanker today, im not expecting much on our part if we proform how we have, the team defiantly has the potential to beat SL, but proberbly wont.
I agree... I was hoping England would have picked up by now. I think on current form SL will be too good tonight....

England won the toss and have decided to bowl, which seems to be the trend at this World Cup. I'm not sure about the conditions exactly but the scorecards seem to indicate bowling first is risky.

[Rrrrrrr]

wow, greg chappell took a bloody long time to quit

[Untitled]

In Play
England won the toss and decided to field
Sri Lanka Innings
44 for 1 (10.1 overs)

So far, if they keep that rate up they will get about 220 i beleave, which is a good total for england to aim at, saying this, its still very early on in the innings.

[Grumma]

Nah with only 1 down they'd be looking at over 250 I'd say

[Rrrrrrr]

I'm starting to wonder why SL bother with Tharanga as an opener. He lends some stability but that strike rate is inexcusable for a one-day opener imo.

[PianoDan]

I thought after 30ish overs they'd be looking at a few more than this, 7/220 in the 48th. I agree, Tharanga does seem a little slow. I guess Jayasuriya usually balances it out.

[Rrrrrrr]

I was expecting well over 250 but everything sort of fell apart when Jayawardene and Tharanga were dismissed. They're going to have quite a time defending this total. England are going to be looking to take full advantage of Malinga's economy rate.

[Untitled]

I was expecting well over 250 but everything sort of fell apart when Jayawardene and Tharanga were dismissed. They're going to have quite a time defending this total. England are going to be looking to take full advantage of Malinga's economy rate.
Twud seem i was right :p There abouts anyway.

England need to crack on though, Looks dodgy now with Bopora and Nixon in, i hope they do something miraculas now :(

We did the age old trick of collapsing in the mid order it seems.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Sorry for the lack of recognition Piano Dan!

Man the World Cup goes for too long. This Super 8s system is ridiculous, it should be two groups of 4 then straight in to semis finals, thus cutting out 4 games for each team. What is it if you make the final, like 12 games? That is stupid. 8 is plenty.

[Untitled]

Sorry for the lack of recognition Piano Dan!

Man the World Cup goes for too long. This Super 8s system is ridiculous, it should be two groups of 4 then straight in to semis finals, thus cutting out 4 games for each team. What is it if you make the final, like 12 games? That is stupid. 8 is plenty.

I quite like it tbh, it forces you to play every team, and beat every team, nearly.

[Alf™]

But having one match a day is not the way to go. It just extends an already large tournament.

Interesting end to the England vs. Sri Lanka match. England needed 30 from 3 overs.

Edit: They now need 19 from 2.

12 from 1 over with 3 wickets in hand.

3 runs from the last ball...

And he bowled him, so it's all over, and Sri Lanka has pulled off a win. England will not be happy with letting that match go. Must have been a good one to watch.

[Untitled]

Close end, Loosing Nixon wont help, keep bopara on strike we will have a chance.

[Untitled]

DAMN lost by two runs :'(

But not according to the BBC.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Untitled258/untitled.jpg

[Alf™]

:lol: I lol'd tbh.



Vote Alf - http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=519995

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

:( :( :(

by 2 runs

[Untitled]

We need to get our batting sorted, once one of the batters fall, another 2 will, it always happens.

[Rrrrrrr]

I was lucky enough to watch the last three overs. That was tense. I was in my school's student centre and even the Americans were stopping to watch the end. Great stuff.

Sri Lanka didn't exactly pull off a convincing victory, but I'm happy anyway :)

They need to be in far better shape to stand a chance against Australia though. Their innings seem to have a disturbing tendency to go into slow motion after Jayasuriya gets out.

[samthebassman]

Good finish to the game but it seems that the poms were let down by their weak top order yet again. Sri Lanka seemed to choke a little under the pressure but they came away with the points.

When will Vaughan make a score?
When will Bell or KP turn a start into a big hundred?
When will Freddie do his job and finish an innings?

[TheBigMachine]

Probably against Australia.
Probably against Australia.
Never.

[Untitled]

I dont know whats going on with Freddies batting these days, hes barely in for an over.

I hope on Sunday we can put up a real fight to aus now after yesterdays performance, we nearly won the game with our batting being pretty average, i would hope we do the same on Sunday, win the toss, field first, get Gilly, Haydos and Ponting out relativity cheaply, id say aim for a total of abot 250 again maybe, and that will give us a real fighting chance. I dont think the Austrialia bowling is as good as Sri Lanka at the minute, yes its good, but the Aus wins seem to be coming from putting hugh totals on the board rather then bowling the other team out.

[samthebassman]

Yeah the Aussies have been bowling well but I dont think they have been put under a lot of pressure yet in the world cup.

[PianoDan]

Australia's bowling attack isn't the most powerful it's been recenlty, but McGrath's not doing too badly, Hogg's doing okay as well, and Tait and Bracken are playing their parts reasonably well. I agree though, they haven't been under any real pressure with the scores the batsmen have been making.

England really don't stand a chance on Sunday though, IMHO.

[Grumma]

I've never really though Flintoff was a #6 batsman.
If it wasn't for his bowling he wouldn't be in the side

[Liberi Fatali]

I quite like it tbh, it forces you to play every team, and beat every team, nearly.I feel like a lot of the hype and excitement about the world cup has died down since we entered the Super 8 round. Perhaps it is due to India and to a lesser extent Pakistan not making it through. But when hearing how long the Super 8 round was going to take, a lot of my excitement left. I'm sure I'll start paying more attention when the semis start though.

[Wigga Stole My Bike]

It was bound to happen one day, we can't rely on Flintoff, Pieterson and Collingwood to pull us out when our first 2-3 batters are unable to get a decent score....

[samthebassman]

Exactly right, your top 3 have top be guys who make big scores, look at the Aussies with Hayden, Gilchrist & Ponting, one of them always seems to get runs but in comparison Vaughan, Joyce & Bell have 1 ODI century between them.

They are not up to standard.

[Grumma]

Bell's worse than bloody Jacques Kallis (in relation to scoring rate)

[samthebassman]

Yep, he always gets a start but he only scores with a strike rate of about 60, I hate negative batting.

[Grumma]

John Davison FTW

:p

[Untitled]

We need Trescothick to come back, from what ive heard he is doing soonish. Id put Pieterson up to number3, when Bell plays with KP is scoring rate increases, and he becomes a bit more aggressive, as does collingwood to an extent. Id be tempted to put Bopara and Nixon above Freddie, but once freddie finds his feet with the bat he can be dangours, if he ever does though tbh.

[samthebassman]

Yeah, but it is equally as bad to get 20 from 12 balls everytime you bat.

[samthebassman]

What happened to Solanki? He looked ok and he got a couple of ODI 100's when he was opening a little while back.

[Grumma]

haha yeah . ..

But it's a lot better to watch :p

*in regards to Davison

[samthebassman]

this is true

[Wigga Stole My Bike]

I think we should have Pieterson starting the batting with Vaughan in our game against Australia, then having Bell and Joyce coming in as 3rd and 4th, then Flintoff and Collingwood as 5th and 6th incase we need vital runs at that point.

Pieterson is more than capable of batting as one of the first two, his confidence is amazing and he doesn't care who he bats against, he'll always play with an attacking attitude which gets him runs, which England need from the first 2 batters. Hopefully he can rub off on Vaughan like he did on Bell yesterday...(Bells run rate was shocking, but picked up when batting with Pieterson)

[Untitled]

What happened to Solanki? He looked ok and he got a couple of ODI 100's when he was opening a little while back.

I think he got dropped for Strauss, i dunno tbh. We need some properly good players back though, the likes of Trescothick and simon jones, whom are both coming back, fortunately for us, i hope they both play in the 20/20 world cup.

Pieterson in ODI at 1 or 2 would make a bit of sence, its like having Gilly in at 1 for ODI get the ball rolling a bit, id keep him down the order in tests though, but if he got out early, i dont think atm we have a team good enough to be able to carry on attacking in such a way he does.

[Wigga Stole My Bike]

I agree with only having him as #1 or #2 in ODI and not Tests. But I believe if he's out early, hopefully having Bell Collingwood and Flintoff coming into bat at a later stage could create more runs.

Either way, there are always going to be games where the people you expect to score runs, will be out early and for not many runs. But our starting 3 have made low scoring a little too consistant which is a worry.

[Aotearoa]

Im not sure why everyone seems transfixed about trying to work out how England can get better and into the semis. They are too far gone to make it, there batting sucks whoever they stick in there going to bat like their in a Test. England should be banned from odi's, they are the worst of the major countries. I cringe everytime England plays they are so boring. They should stick to tests where they have 5 days to make a score of 300, because they'll never make that in one day.

[Rrrrrrr]

define "major countries"

If you mean Test-playing nations, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and the West Indies are still worse.

[Grumma]

I'd say Australia, NZ, Sri Lanka, India, Pakistan and England.

Though I get the feeling I'm missing someone . . .
Ah yes, South Africa

[TheBigMachine]

West Indies?
Only marginally.

[Aotearoa]

I dont count Zim and Bangladesh as major countries. People dont have expectations on the Windies these days, they are a complete mess. England seem to build up peoples expectations but they are terrible. Just because they won the tri series in Aussie, England were said to have a good chance of winning the World Cup. Even after NZ lost to England in the tri series I knew NZ would do better than England in Cup. England apart from Peterson and Flintoff have no dynamic players who can win them a match. Compare that to SA,Aus,NZ and Sri Lanka. The One Day matches have evolved into high scoring matches these days, the major countries apart from the Windies and England have kept up with the pace. England would need 2-3 days to get the scores that SA,Aus,NZ and Sri get.

[Untitled]

Im not sure why everyone seems transfixed about trying to work out how England can get better and into the semis. They are too far gone to make it, there batting sucks whoever they stick in there going to bat like their in a Test. England should be banned from odi's, they are the worst of the major countries. I cringe everytime England plays they are so boring. They should stick to tests where they have 5 days to make a score of 300, because they'll never make that in one day.

Banned from ODIs, thats the most stupid thing ive heard, ever, just because we are playing sub par in terms of batter this world cup dosnt mean we should be banned, on Wednesday our fielding and bowling was actully pretty good, to restrict SL to 230 or whatever on that pitch was more then respectable.

You also seem to be one of these people who are forgetting a whole 3 months ago, when England made totals of 250 and 300 and won the series, NZL didnt even make the finals.

EDIT, also the biggest total we made in the CB series was 290, and thats with flintoff getting out for 3 and pieterson not even playing, so im pretty sure out batters are capable of making a good score. That was agaisnt Aus too.

[Aotearoa]

The banning England thing was a joke, but they still are one of the worst 'top' countries in the world. Mate NZ didnt make the tri series finals because they lost it for themselves. Australia gave England those wins, England did not play outstanding cricket. I dont think NZ were too concerned with the losses, the Black Caps focus had always been on the World Cup which is benefiting them now. NZ won that series against Australia 3-0 chasing mid 300's twice. England can not keep pace with the top countries in ODIs with the latest trend of the game for big scores. Even if England get a big score its only 1 out of 15 innings, at the moment they dont have the ability to make big scores 2-3 innings in a row.

[Wigga Stole My Bike]

I guess we'll see come sunday....Australia vs England.

Englands batters are more than capable of keeping up with any of the big hitters, but if you think about it Trescothick has mental issues, Strauss has lost form (Though should be brought back in for Joyce), Vaughan is capable of making a decent score, as is Bell....we don't just rely on Flintoff, Collingwood and Pieterson all the time. We're currently off form, any England fan will tell you that, but to claim that when we're all in form like current Australia we wouldn't be able to contend is rubbish.

It's going to be a close game on Sunday, or atleast it should be

[Grumma]

They're all capable of making decent scores; just takes your batsmen, Pieterson aside, twice as long to get there :p

[PianoDan]

I guess we'll see come sunday....Australia vs England.

Englands batters are more than capable of keeping up with any of the big hitters, but if you think about it Trescothick has mental issues, Strauss has lost form (Though should be brought back in for Joyce), Vaughan is capable of making a decent score, as is Bell....we don't just rely on Flintoff, Collingwood and Pieterson all the time. We're currently off form, any England fan will tell you that, but to claim that when we're all in form like current Australia we wouldn't be able to contend is rubbish.

It's going to be a close game on Sunday, or atleast it should be
England's capable of beating Australia. They proved that in 2005, and again in the one day series last summer in Australia. But I think it's fair to say that if both teams are in top form Australia will win 8 or 9 times out of 10. Perhaps in the near future, with Warne and McGrath gone, that'll change. For this World Cup, if England suddenly arrived at the top of their game by Sunday, they'd give Australia a run, but realistically I don't think England will, and Australia's not terribly far from the top of their game at the moment.

I'd really love to see a good fight on Sunday, because I don't want to get to the semi-finals and suddenly be challenged seriously for the first time, but I don't think England will come to the party...:(

[Grumma]

If Australia was at the top of it's game Gilly would absolutely slaughter any bowling attack and either Lee or Tait would rip through the top order.
Haven't seen either of those happen yet

[TheBigMachine]

Gilchrist - nearing the end of his time. It'll be his time to go not to long from now in my opinion.

[Aotearoa]

You can not beat Australias batting at the moment they are too hot. You need to attack their bowlers who arent invincible. England just arent aggressive enough to attack Australias bowlers. The point about England beating Aussie in the tri series is n/a. Aussie has improved markedly since then while England has plateaued if not dropped from where they were in the tri series. Aussie will go into this game with a killer instict, they want to show everyone, especially the top teams, that its going to take something special to beat them. England dont have it.

[Grumma]

Gilchrist - nearing the end of his time. It'll be his time to go not to long from now in my opinion.

IMO he should have already been replaced by Haddin

[TheBigMachine]

^^ Truth.
But because our selectors are such loyalists and all, it didnt happen.

[PianoDan]

If Australia was at the top of it's game Gilly would absolutely slaughter any bowling attack and either Lee or Tait would rip through the top order.
Haven't seen either of those happen yet
Australia's not at the top of its game, just not all that far from it. I wasn't taking into account individual form, just team form. Obviously Lee being injured is a blow, and obviously Tait and others could have better bowling form (though McGrath isn't in bad form). Gilly's out of form - or rather, I think his greatness is past him (so painful to say that) - but Ponting's in typical dominant form and Hayden's never played so well in ODIs. Clarke's batting well and Hodge - if only the selectors would see sense and pick him - is also in top form. All we need is for Hussey to fire and for Symonds to get back into the flow of things, and I think both of them will find form by semis time.

[TheBigMachine]

The main reason that Hussey hasn't been firing(imo) is because there hasnt been much challenge. He always seems like the kind of bloke that will only go out and score a quick fire century when the pressure is on, or bat all day when were 4/not many after 10 overs or something.

[Grumma]

Yeah Hussey's like Bevan. (obvious comparison)

He's just going out trying to get runs at the end of the innings.

[samthebassman]

Gilchrist should be gone? A silly suggestion, he is still the most dangerous bat in the game, I think this will be his last ODI series and he will leave on his own terms. Haddin, while being adequate, will never be capable of doing what Gilly does.

[samthebassman]

Yeah Hussey's like Bevan. (obvious comparison)

He's just going out trying to get runs at the end of the innings.

Hussey is superior to Bevan in every facet of the game.

[Aotearoa]

Bevan was a better fielder

[Grumma]

Uh . ..

No

[samthebassman]

Bevan was an ordinary fielder, one paced batsman who often played for his average, seldom used bowler and he had no leadership qualities.

Huss has accomplished more in a year with the aussie team than bevan did in 10.

[PianoDan]

The main reason that Hussey hasn't been firing(imo) is because there hasnt been much challenge. He always seems like the kind of bloke that will only go out and score a quick fire century when the pressure is on, or bat all day when were 4/not many after 10 overs or something.
I think he hasn't been firing because, at the World Cup at least, he's been coming in with only a few overs to go and hasn't had much opportunity. He's scored some big runs under pressure but it's not like he hasn't scored lots of big runs with not much pressure at all.

Hussey is not better than Bevan was (in ODIs). Hussey hasn't achieved anything like what Bevan did, as far as closing innings, and chasing targets to perfection under enormous pressure. Bevan in my mind is the best ODI player I've seen since I started watching in the mid-90s.

[samthebassman]

Hussey is the man for any situation, bevan was a one paced, selfish batsman. Yeah he won a few games for the aussies back in the day but Hussey has done the job more consistantly, throw in the fact that Huss scores with a strike rate in excess of 90. Dont be fooled by Bevan's average, he was a very selfish batsman.

[PianoDan]

Hussey is the man for any situation, bevan was a one paced, selfish batsman. Yeah he won a few games for the aussies back in the day but Hussey has done the job more consistantly, throw in the fact that Huss scores with a strike rate in excess of 90. Dont be fooled by Bevan's average, he was a very selfish batsman.
Well I'm not fooled by Bevan's average, especially as Hussey's is much higher. And don't get me wrong, Hussey's something special. So far he's adapted incredibly to various situations, both in ODIs and Tests. If you include Test cricket then Hussey is a better cricketer because Bevan was not much of a test player.

But I don't know how you can say Bevan was selfish. How many did he have to keep an innings together than was falling apart and keep up a difficult run-rate at the same time? In the two years Hussey's been playing he's played some brilliant cricket but he rarely has been under the same sort of pressure, and chased down scores in the same sort of conditions, as Bevan; Bevan was amazingly consistent in that role. Do you remember his role in the two games vs South Africa in the '99 World Cup? Or his innings against the Windies back in the late 90s?

[samthebassman]

Of course, that is what he was remebered for but I also remember his inability to play the big shots at the end of an innings (perhaps not inability but maybe selfishness, that his avarage may drop if a big shot didn't come off), he couldn't close an innings like Hussey, he didn't have the power or the shot range that Hussey does. As far as chasing totals goes there isnt a lot between them, Hussey has been the outstanding bat in the Aussie ODI side since his inclusion. As far as being an allround cricketer goes, Hussey leaves Bevan for dead.

[PianoDan]

Of course, that is what he was remebered for but I also remember his inability to play the big shots at the end of an innings (perhaps not inability but maybe selfishness, that his avarage may drop if a big shot didn't come off), he couldn't close an innings like Hussey, he didn't have the power or the shot range that Hussey does. As far as chasing totals goes there isnt a lot between them, Hussey has been the outstanding bat in the Aussie ODI side since his inclusion. As far as being an allround cricketer goes, Hussey leaves Bevan for dead.
I agree that Hussey has a far better ability to play the big shots. Bevan hitting a six was a bit of a rarity. This wasn't selfishness, it was his style as a batsman. Bevan was a worker, he'd work and turn the ball into the gaps, turn the strike over, find the boundary when it was desparately needed in a run-chase.

It depends what you mean by allround cricketer. Hussey's much better in the field, but Bevan had a knack for being a wicket-taker as well, which I don't think Hussey has as much of a knack for. Also Hussey, as I said, is a much, much better Test cricketer. And also on Hussey's side is his ability to bat anywhere in an order, which Bevan possibly wasn't as good at. And towards the end of his career, Bevan did seem to drop off a bit, although I think that's in part due to other teams finally working him out after trying so hard to for so many years.

I just can't agree that Bevan was selfish, and if you're basing that on his lack of big hitting, I think you're mistaking it for his different batting style.

But I can agree that Hussey has been the outstanding bat for Australia in ODIs and Tests since he was picked (he and Ponting).

I'm so hoping for Hussey to start making some runs in this World Cup. He just hasn't had the chance yet, the top order's been too good.

[Alf™]

IMO he should have already been replaced by Haddin

I don't agree with this. Gilchrist hasn't done much wrong, is out of a bit of form, but is still scoring some good runs. He can demolish any bowling attack in the world, and that's why he is still in the team.

Gilchrist - nearing the end of his time. It'll be his time to go not to long from now in my opinion.

I'd give him till the end of the next Ashes campaign, but it may come sooner, who knows.

Hussey is superior to Bevan in every facet of the game.

Harsh, but I totally agree with you...

Hussey is the man for any situation, bevan was a one paced, selfish batsman. Yeah he won a few games for the aussies back in the day but Hussey has done the job more consistantly, throw in the fact that Huss scores with a strike rate in excess of 90. Dont be fooled by Bevan's average, he was a very selfish batsman.

But I disagree that Bevan was a selfish batsman. I can't even see how you can watch his games and pull that evaluation. He was selfish when he needed to be, and turned the strike over when there was someone more dangerous with him. He was a great asset to Australian cricket, and i think we forget that too easily.

Of course, that is what he was remebered for but I also remember his inability to play the big shots at the end of an innings (perhaps not inability but maybe selfishness, that his avarage may drop if a big shot didn't come off)

I doubt he didn't play a big shot only because he didn't want to lose average. Winning sure is better than a healthy average, let me tell you. Bevan just wasn't a big hitter, like said above, and that played into his game plans. He had the unique ability to score a easy four when it was needed, and to turn over the strike ball after ball and guide us to victory.

[Untitled]

Wahey, ive just found out that the uni im planning on going to, has a cricket team, and even if ure ****, you can still go to the practices and they will train you up and stuff.

Most of it is played indoor with term time being in winter and stuff, or at least the training is, but the practice is at LCCCs indoor training bit, at old Trafford, where lancashire play, and England from time to time, so i would be hopeing to meat our Freddie, and Jimmy, hahaaaaa.

Im so outa shape, i have till sept to get fit, hope i can do it tbh. Im happy they take anyone in, because ive not played in so long, and i really, really wanna, im hoping once i get playing again, ill find my rhythm and get good :D

[samthebassman]

Is the Aussie v Pommie game on tonight?

[PianoDan]

Is the Aussie v Pommie game on tonight?
Nah tomorrow night. South Africa vs Ireland tonight. Yet another walkover game, barring some major upset...

[samthebassman]

Bummer, that game will be a non event, the world cup goes for to long, there isnt any need for so many super 8's games.

[Untitled]

Nah tomorrow night. South Africa vs Ireland tonight. Yet another walkover game, barring some major upset...

Nah, south Africa v Bangladesh tonight, still should be a walkover.

[Rrrrrrr]

Wait what? I thought Bangladesh was playing SA today.

Also, this is one of the more interesting reasons for crashing out of the World Cup that's ever been given.

"The boys were up against the most challenging task of proving their skills in the prestigious tournament, but I am sorry to say they had no drive for the game and were much more active in preaching and praying."

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/289265.html

[PianoDan]

Nah, south Africa v Bangladesh tonight, still should be a walkover.
Dang, that's what I meant. My bad.

[samthebassman]

Come on the Bangi boys!

[Rrrrrrr]

Nah, south Africa v Bangladesh tonight, still should be a walkover.

...or not.

I don't ****ing believe this.

[Untitled]

Oh my, could there be a upset on the boards?

It would shake things up a bit, help England out too to get into the semis.

[Rrrrrrr]

god damn it how could they possibly choke against Bangladesh of all teams

[Untitled]

Same way india did?

This is the shake up we needed, and now, if we beat SF and Bangladesh, we could theoretical get into the semis if we loose agiasnt austrialia. Wahey.

[RCVA]

This is brilliant.


But..if Bangladesh can beat india and SA they can beat England...


Hopefully we'll be good enough.

[Untitled]

This is brilliant.


But..if Bangladesh can beat india and SA they can beat England...


Hopefully we'll be good enough.

If Bangladesh can beat SA then so can england. Haha.

Bangladesh 251-8, 50 overs v South Africa 160-9, 46 overs

Oh dear.

[Rrrrrrr]

Well, it's all over. 184 all out. What a shocker.

This is even worse than Pakistan* versus Ireland IMO.

[Untitled]

India V Bangladesh*

Pakistan was ireland :p

Anyway, yeah bigger shock as SA are top of the world rankings, it helps out cause out too, still need to win tomorrow really though.

[Rrrrrrr]

oops, i meant pakistan

it's obviously worse than the india match

[antihippy]

bangass!!!!!!!!!! ashraful and razzak are progressing really well.

go the tigers.

in other news, whos betting tonight's aus vs. eng match would be a walkover?

[Grumma]

Me :p

[Untitled]

bangass!!!!!!!!!! ashraful and razzak are progressing really well.

go the tigers.

in other news, whos betting tonight's aus vs. eng match would be a walkover?

Awww, yeah, we will kick your arse for sure.

Nah, it wont be a walk over, itll be a close match, we need to get the batters out cheaply and put pressure on the bowlers, who havnt really had much pressure on them yet. We know we can beat a full strength Aussie team, its just a case of putting in the performances.

[antihippy]

which england seem to fail at doing.

[Untitled]

We didnt agaisnt Sri Lanka tbh, our bowling and fielding was good, and the batter where going well, untill they collapsed, as per usual. Saying that, Ian Bells run out was the most unfortunate thing ever, umpire got it right though :(

Im predicting Stauss will be back today, hopefully he will do something with the bat for the top order. I hope Vaughan actully makes a score, but apparently he has scored more runs then Freddie this world cup.

[samthebassman]

Yay for the bangi's, the aussies to smash the poms!

[Grumma]

wtf . . .

Why is Bell opening :confused:

[samthebassman]

Why replace Joyce with Strauss? they are the same player, KP should bat 3, maybe freddie should open, god knows he cant do any worse than he is batting at 6. Typical pommie defensive cricket!

[Grumma]

They'll be none for 30 off 15 or something stupid like that

[Grumma]

Shaun Tait you beauty!

[samthebassman]

Wrong!

Tait knocked over Vaughan.

[samthebassman]

Great comeback Strauss!!!

[Grumma]

Tait has a new nickname: "Drederick" (in reference to the Simpson's character)

[samthebassman]

Who pushed his mama down the stairs, nice!

[antihippy]

2/26 of 6 overs!!!!!!???????

wait a minute, that's not surprising at all.

[samthebassman]

The aussies are looking tight! Big KP has started well though.

[Grumma]

Who pushed his mama down the stairs, nice!

Nah; cos he packs the biggest punch!
Or the most pace lol

[antihippy]

glenn mcgrath got smashed for 8 runs?

:eek:

[samthebassman]

Ponting is chirping at KP, good to watch.

[samthebassman]

Bell is starting to play quite well.

[Grumma]

McGrath is just getting plastered atm

[samthebassman]

Yeah Kp & Bell looking ok.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

samthebassman you are a big bell end we dont need a running commentary from you and your stupid opinions.

[samthebassman]

Cheers bro! you can head back to the other threads now you have submitted one post!

[Grumma]

About time we got someone out!

[samthebassman]

Yeah, they were looking good, did you see hayden drop KP? what a sitter!

[Britney Diva]

England aren't taking enough wickets. Sad times :(

[Rrrrrrr]

Sad indeed. They put up a decent total but without the bowlers defending it it's as good as a walkover anyway.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

I don't understand why Mahmood gets to play international cricket.

[Untitled]

Yeah, i think if we get one soon we might get a couple.

Atm though, the Req Run rate is higher then the Actual one, so i think Aus need to get on with it other wise they will be taking it right to the wire.

[Rrrrrrr]

meh, fifty runs from twelve overs is no problem, especially since they have wickets in hand going into the slog overs.

[Untitled]

Well the run rate is over the required now.

I think England needed to get the 300 total they should of got, put a bit more pressure on them and we might of got a few wickets.

I think the result yestoday still gives us a chance to get into the semis, not sure how the figures work but it looks a bit more promising then if SA won.

Ohhhh, Ponting is out, hopefully if we get a couple more, the presure might cercum and we will win, ¬_¬

[Britney Diva]

Yeah, you need to shake them up with a couple of wickets, keep them from getting any momentum.

[Untitled]

Very much lost tbh, i wouldnt say it was a walk over though. We didnt take wickets, but we didnt give away to many runs really. We should of done better batting, I mean 104, 77, 21, the top 3 scores or something, argh.

[Untitled]

Ah well, we loose, should of put up more of a fight after Bell and Pietersons innings.

Anyway, anyone else got Brian Lara/Ricky Ponting cricket for PC, 360, ps2, w/e, its pretty good, i like it. But i swear the umpires are programmed to get LBW shouts wrong some times, ive often had the most plum, dead centre, yorked bowl and its been given not out, for pitching out side the leg stump when it clearly wasnt on hawk eye, frustrating!

[TheBigMachine]

I hate it when games are over-designed like that.

[Grumma]

I don't understand why Mahmood gets to play international cricket.

+1

Why isn't Plunkett playing?

[Alf™]

Oh wow, what a comeback by Marcus Trescothick. He made 256 from 117 balls, in a friendly one day match back in England! 19 sixes and 25 fours! How much would England will to have him back in the side.

[PianoDan]

England really should've got a few more... Pietersen and Bell's work went a bit to waste with the middle order collapse. They were never going to defend 247 against this sort of Australian batting line up.

England are still in with a real chance to make the semis after the SA loss to Bangladesh, but they'll really have to pick up with their batting. Their top three have been woeful and they've failed to capitalise on decent middle-innings positions.

I see this going the way of last World Cup, Australia winning without a real challenge from anyone....

[samthebassman]

I swear the Poms have not improved their one day cricket in the past 20 years, everyone else has adapted to the game but the poms still dont get it!

[Untitled]

+1

Why isn't Plunkett playing?
Mahmood has more verity, Plunkett is good with the new ball for the first 10 overs or whatever, but later on in the game he dosnt really do much with it, Mahmood has a better slower ball and more verity. He does take wickets though, look at Sri Lanka, he took 4 or something including a few of the top order, Mahmood is qaulity when he gets it right
I swear the Poms have not improved their one day cricket in the past 20 years, everyone else has adapted to the game but the poms still dont get it!
Theres still a fair bit of snobery todays ODI i think over here, i think we are more test side focused, it shows, 2nd, best test side, 7/8th ODI side.

[Untitled]

England really should've got a few more... Pietersen and Bell's work went a bit to waste with the middle order collapse. They were never going to defend 247 against this sort of Australian batting line up.

England are still in with a real chance to make the semis after the SA loss to Bangladesh, but they'll really have to pick up with their batting. Their top three have been woeful and they've failed to capitalise on decent middle-innings positions.

I see this going the way of last World Cup, Australia winning without a real challenge from anyone....

Top 3 havnt, Bell has played well all tournament, failed to make a 50 yet. Its Vaughan who worries me, hes barly made 5 in all his innings, he is a good captian but he needs to bat as well.

[TheBigMachine]

Theres still a fair bit of snobery todays ODI i think over here, i think we are more test side focused, it shows, 2nd, best test side, 7/8th ODI side.

AUSTRALIA. Best for both.

[Untitled]

AUSTRALIA. Best for both.
.............

Well done.

If bangledesh didnt beat SA you wouldnt be top of the ODI again.

Tbh, i think we should make the semis now, i hope, Bangladesh we should win, and the way the windies are playing we should beat them, South Africa arnt looking too great either.

the BBC put up the predictions of all the wins, presuming we beat SA and all the other matches go the way they expect, 3 of us will tie for 4th so net run rate will come into it. And ours is better the SA and the Windies atm.

[TheBigMachine]

My greatest world cup wish is that Bangladesh make the semi's. That's all I want from this world cup.

[samthebassman]

All I want from this world cup is the Aussies to win!

[antihippy]

i want a aus vs bang finals where nothing is as it seems.

[TheBigMachine]

Australia v. Bangladesh finals...
you know what?
I think that'd possibly supply the best grandfinal possible.

[PianoDan]

Australia v. Bangladesh finals...
you know what?
I think that'd possibly supply the best grandfinal possible.
It's not that bad. Sri Lanka and New Zealand are still capable of providing a real challenge, don't worry.

[Untitled]

Australia v. Bangladesh finals...
you know what?
I think that'd possibly supply the best grandfinal possible.

I doubt it, after Aus destroyed them last week it would probably make for a very boring final.

[antihippy]

hey, i'm a bangladesh backer. you gotta take what i say with a grain of salt.

[Britney Diva]

Ah, we screwed ourselves with more dodgy bowling in the final overs. I don't know why Johnson insists on reserving himself for the final balls, he always ends up giving away 12+ per over. Very unlikely we'll be able to match that.

[Untitled]

263, hmm, not an imposable target to reach, but it would have to be a bloody impressive knock by Ireland.

Hope they win though, anything to make it easier on us :D

[Britney Diva]

I don't think it's going to happen, New Zealand are bowling too well and we don't have the kind of batsmen who can pick boundaries easily. I'm just devastated about averaging 11 in the final 7 overs, it's just too easy for a top quality team like New Zealand.

[samthebassman]

You guys didnt play too badly, you had NZ in trouble for a while.

[TheBigMachine]

New Zealands players are all full time cricket players. ALl they do is play cricket. I understand that most of your team work different jobs apart from cricket. Ireland have done extremely well this tournament, along with Bangladesh.

[Untitled]

Ireland have looked very professional this series, and look like they have the potential to beat a big team if there not on form again.

Me and my mate at work thought the Pakistan loss was a fix, but after seeing how they have preformed agiasnt NZL, Eng, etc the past couple weeks, i very much doubt that. I hope they win a couple more tbh, i can see them beating the windies.

[Clunge]

Smart money is still with the Aussies :(.

[samthebassman]

A lot of the Irish guys play first grade cricket in Sydney, that is the strongest local comp going around.

[Untitled]

Ohhh yes, looking forward to watching Lancashire this year if i get the chance to, may not being in work so much, our sqaud, is looking really strong i think.


Lancashire squad 2007
Player
James Anderson
Karl Brown
Glen Chapple
Mark Chilton (Capt)
Dominic Cork
Steven Croft
Gareth Cross
Andrew Flintoff
Brad Hodge (Overseas)
Kyle Hogg
Paul Horton
Gary Keedy
Stuart Law
Malachy Loye
Sajid Mahmood
Simon Marshall
Steven Mullaney
Muttiah Muralitharan (Overseas)
Oliver Newby
Tom Smith
Iain Sutcliffe
Luke Sutton

EDIT _ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1NFbVx0uN8 Freddies face at the end of that is pure class, hahaha.

[Aria.]

what about those 2 pommies that post in this thread so they still thikn anyone has a chance beating aus lmfao

[samthebassman]

West Indies were pathetic again last night.

[TheBigMachine]

Poor blokes. They have the potential to play great cricket, they just dont.

[Untitled]

WORLD CUP SUPER 8, BARBADOS:
Bangladesh 40-4 (10 overs) v England

Looking good for us.

[Rrrrrrr]

Well, England have the horror of what happened to South Africa to spur them on after all. There's no way they were going going to allow a repeat, especially since South Africa's loss gave them a new lease on life.

[RCVA]

England are so boring..


I really hope New Zealand or Sri Lanka beat Australia.

I can see it happening.

[Untitled]

England are so boring..


I really hope New Zealand or Sri Lanka beat Australia.

I can see it happening.

NZL or Sri Lanka will win the world cup i think. Im hoping NZL, but im thinking Sri Lanka.

OMG Freddie got into double figures, and made 4 bounders, including a 6 :eek: And Vaughan made runs.

[samthebassman]

God I hate the poms, they are so boring.

[Britney Diva]

NZL or Sri Lanka will win the world cup i think. Im hoping NZL, but im thinking Sri Lanka.
I dunno, the kiwis were pretty average against us.

England will have to bat better than that if they're to make the final four. God damn.

[Untitled]

God I hate the poms, they are so boring.

Better then being arrogant tbh.


I dunno, the kiwis were pretty average against us.

England will have to bat better than that if they're to make the final four. God damn.Everyone is going into Ireland matches expecting it to be easy but the Irish are putting up a real fight and are surprising people i think.

At the moment are fielding is looking really good, and bowling, just the batting is letting us down. I think we should beat the Windies, not sure about south Africa tbh.

[samthebassman]

Arrogant?

I would take agressive, attractive & succesful cricket over boring, dull & defensive cricket anyday.

All anyone seems to say about the aussies is that they are arrogant.

Success breeds confidence, confidence is mistaken for arrogance by the ill informed.

[Britney Diva]

Well, if you wanna be exact, arrogant people tend to play down their arrogance by calling it "confidence". The Aussies should be the most confident of all the teams, but some people are just jackasses.

[Untitled]

Well, if you wanna be exact, arrogant people tend to play down their arrogance by calling it "confidence". The Aussies should be the most confident of all the teams, but some people are just jackasses.

I have no problem at all with confidence, its good to have confidence within a cricket team. Arrogance though, the Australian team are as bad as the fans sometimes.

Tbh ive just stopped caring though.

[samthebassman]

S.O.P. - Such as?

How are the aussies bad?
I think KP is the most "arrogant" player going around.

[Untitled]

S.O.P. - Such as?

How are the aussies bad?
I think KP is the most "arrogant" player going around.

KP, Arrogant? right, now you are the Ill-informed person.

Even if he is arrogant, it will be just confidence, i mean, hes number 1 in the world, that will bread confidence, confidence can be mis-informed as being arrogance......


:rolleyes:

[samthebassman]

Exactly my point bro.

[Untitled]

Im using your point sarcastically.

I cant be arsed with this argument.


I need a new bat, recommendations on makes anyone? i really dunno what im looking for, ive always used club bats :-/

[Rrrrrrr]

kookaburra

just for the name :D

[TheBigMachine]

I think that by walking down the pitch to Glenn Mcgrath, your showing that you are indeed an arrogant batsmen.
And you pay for it when you get a broken rib.

[Untitled]

kookaburra

just for the name :D

That is a great name tbh, haha. Atm im looking at slazenger, and woodworm, i want a woodworm because when i get out, its always been be slicing it to the slips so id expect that help me not get out, haha. Atm its looking like Slazenger though.

[samthebassman]

I think that by walking down the pitch to Glenn Mcgrath, your showing that you are indeed an arrogant batsmen.
And you pay for it when you get a broken rib.

Yeah, I gotta say I had a smirk on my face when that happened.

[Untitled]

Yeah, I gotta say I had a smirk on my face when that happened.

Wasnt nearly as funny as when ponting went to hook a shot in 2005 and got a blow right on the face.

Does anyone know if Ponting knows how to breath when he talks?

[samthebassman]

That is a great name tbh, haha. Atm im looking at slazenger, and woodworm, i want a woodworm because when i get out, its always been be slicing it to the slips so id expect that help me not get out, haha. Atm its looking like Slazenger though.

Woodworm make excellent bats.

[Untitled]

Woodworm make excellent bats.

THere pricey, £80 for the cheapest. No idea what that is $aus.

[samthebassman]

Dont know, my bro is sponsored by Woodworm so he gets all his gear for free, they are a great bat.

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I might get one, it might be worth laying out the extra cash.

Good match lined up for tomorrow.

Im gonna go bed.

[samthebassman]

It should be a great game NZ v SL.

Malinga isnt playing, my tip is NZ.

[Rrrrrrr]

I hope the Sri Lankans have used their time to shape up after that too-close-for-comfort match against England. Jayasuriya looked in dangerous form then; if he keeps his head tomorrow the Kiwis could be in for a very bad day.

[Grumma]

Nah I think . . .

Hmm . . .
lol

Bond and Vettori have the ability to control him but I sense Franklin is gonna get smashes by Jayasuriya

[samthebassman]

Franklin is the dud in the NZ team!

Sl will struggle without Malinga though, he is their key bowler now.

[Rrrrrrr]

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/290056.html

pretty interesting read, that

[samthebassman]

yeah, nothing shocking there though

[Ganondorf]

I'm annoyed that we (India) got knocked out of the WC, but the fact that Bangladesh beat SA makes it slightly less embarassing :p

[TheBigMachine]

SA = true arrogance
people say that Australia is arrogant...
...obviously dont watch South Africa that much.

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S.O.P. - Such as?

How are the aussies bad?
I think KP is the most "arrogant" player going around.

Michael Vaughan says, "KP is not a confident person. He obviously has great belief in his ability but that's not quite the same thing. And I know KP wants to be loved. I try to text him and talk to him as often as I can because I know he is insecure."


:p :p

NZL havnt put a huge total on the board, seem to be strugeling a bit, Gonna be close i think still.

[Rrrrrrr]

Nice to see that Malinga's absence didn't hurt the team much - I daresay the New Zealand run rate is significantly lower than it would have been otherwise :p

SA = true arrogance
people say that Australia is arrogant...
...obviously dont watch South Africa that much.

eh? They get overconfident at times and tend to underperform when it gets the better of them, but that's not the same as arrogance. They know they're chokers and they're still struggling to throw off that reputation. Look at how meekly they folded against Bangladesh once it got to six wickets down. In their own minds there was no hope of victory already, that's not arrogant behaviour.

Australia, on the other hand, know they're bloody good and prove it. The problem with them is that they feel the need to rub it in again and again and again. The concept of winning graciously is entirely foreign to them. That, in my mind, is arrogance.

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Nice to see that Malinga's absence didn't hurt the team much - I daresay the New Zealand run rate is significantly lower than it would have been otherwise :p



eh? They get overconfident at times and tend to underperform when it gets the better of them, but that's not the same as arrogance. They know they're chokers and they're still struggling to throw off that reputation. Look at how meekly they folded against Bangladesh once it got to six wickets down. In their own minds there was no hope of victory already, that's not arrogant behaviour.

Australia, on the other hand, know they're bloody good and prove it. The problem with them is that they feel the need to rub it in again and again and again. The concept of winning graciously is entirely foreign to them. That, in my mind, is arrogance.I entirely agree. :thumb:

[Grumma]

In their own minds there was no hope of victory already, that's not arrogant behaviour.


That's even worse than being arrogant (in terms of actually going out and playing)

And it's only arrogance when you talk yourself up and don't perform from my perspective

[samthebassman]

Arrogance comes not only from comments but from body language, the South Africans exude arrogance, but they are chokers. The Aussies exude confidence as they have been the best team in world cricket for 15 years. You cannot deny that.

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NZL loss, i want them to win this year, but they where pretty poor all round, the only reason they got a decent total is because of Styris.

Poor fielding too, McCullum taking out his wickets was pure comedy though hahaa. That summed up there day perfectly.

Should be esasy for Aus today.

[TheBigMachine]

And it's only arrogance when you talk yourself up and don't perform from my perspective

Thats exactly what Im saying. Its also exactly what SA do

[samthebassman]

The Aussies should have a win, Ponting said he may change the batting order to give Hussey & Symonds a decent hit.