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TheBigMachine
03-21-2007, 05:37 AM
^^ Yeah I saw this on the news as well. Pretty frightening, if it is murder and the dude who did it is caught...Imagine his penalty!
Im not going anywhere, Iam happy to participate in any cricket conversation and I consider myself a well schooled student of the game, what is the problem with posting scores on here?
I don't hate on anyone and I definitly dont keep on harassing people 5 days after a post was made, perhaps you could take note of that.
Learn how to quote please.
If you are happy to participate, why do you pick and choose what to talk about and who answer to? It's cool to post scores, but have some discussion along with them, otherwise anyone can go to any old cricket site to see the scores.
I am not harassing, I am just wondering why you continue to back away from the starting problem. It's pretty simple for us to move on; stop arguing.
samthebassman
03-21-2007, 05:40 AM
It is pretty crazy, they had ex paki bowler Sarfraz Nawaz on there saying that he might have been killed by people involved in match fixing and bribery, apparently Woolmer was in the process of witing a book and naming and exposing a lot of match fixers.
TheBigMachine
03-21-2007, 05:53 AM
Edit that post before Alf see's.
That's pretty nuts, you don't picture cricket to be a game like that. Or I dont anyway, but what do you know I guess?
antihippy
03-21-2007, 05:55 AM
god..... it'll be terrible day for cricket if it was a murder.
alf, samthebassman, stop arguing for the sake of positivity in this thread. or whateva.
samthebassman
03-21-2007, 06:05 AM
Yeah, the asian countries are especially fanatical so I guess anything is possible.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-21-2007, 07:06 AM
For your entertainment (someone needs to blow this up and make it a wallpaper)
http://www.cricketnews.com.au/userimages/user2418_1174388896a.jpg
Hello, soon to be avatar.
:D
Sri Lanka play tonight, yay!
I seriously doubt Bob Woolmers death was a murder. I'm more inclined to believe it was suicide tbh, I mean, when you coach a major cricketing nation and they don't even make the final eight of the World Cup, you've got to feel depressed. I also reckon some of the controversies would have affected his death, seeing as how Asif and Aktar were both found to be doing some sort of drugs, and with the whole Hare incident etc..
RIP man.
Untitled
03-21-2007, 07:14 AM
Im sure i read he was righting a book on match fixing and stuff and the book exposed people who where involved in it, i cant find the link though atm.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-21-2007, 08:20 AM
I still don't think it's feasible that he was murdered :/
Sri Lanka are in to bat, teams unchanged.
Dear Jesus I hope they win.
RandyfromPennywise
03-21-2007, 10:30 AM
Can't be bothered reading the previous pages, sounds like handbags at five paces from the looks of things.
Nice to Hussey's Guns leading the MX World Cup Fantasy. :thumb:
Australia - South Africa should be good on the weekend. Looking forward to coming home slightly intoxicated and watching it 'til the wee hours.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-21-2007, 05:18 PM
Slightly?
samthebassman
03-21-2007, 06:09 PM
Jayasuriya made a ton against Bangladesh but I think he was injured at some point during the game.
The Pakistani's slammed the zimbo's, Imran Nazir smoked 160 and Mohammad Yousuf took a wicket.
The game between sri lanka and india on friday should be a cracker, with India needing a win to get a spot in the super 8's.
RandyfromPennywise
03-21-2007, 10:42 PM
Slightly?
Well we shall see how long the tab at the 21st I'm going to lasts for. That will be the major determining factor as to whether the level of intoxication rises above 'slightly'. Great night of sport on Saturday, got the Socceroos at 6.30, then the cricket, and I'm sure there's some Super 14 on as well, and Ireland v Wales on at 12.30am too, and with daylight savings going back we get an extra hour sleep.
samthebassman
03-22-2007, 01:42 AM
Tasmania all out for 460 in their second innings aginst NSW, Clingleffer 107, Butterworth 106, that means NSW need to score 571 runs tomorrow to win the pura cup but all Tassie have to do is draw the match.
antihippy
03-22-2007, 04:37 AM
damn, bangaldesh lost.
then again, sri lanka did have jayasuriya.........
and murali.
TheBigMachine
03-22-2007, 04:42 AM
good work from jayasuriya i thought. that'd be a good warm up for india. hope he performs there to.
samthebassman
03-22-2007, 05:16 AM
Yeah I hope sri lanka wins and the bangi's beat bermuda, then the bangi's go to the super 8's and India miss out.
Fire Away
03-22-2007, 06:12 AM
I don't want India to miss out :(
samthebassman
03-22-2007, 06:30 AM
If they do I hope Greg Chappell doesn't wind up dead!
antihippy
03-22-2007, 06:56 AM
^^ touchwood.
samthebassman
03-22-2007, 10:56 PM
It turns out that Bob Woolmer was murdered, he was strangled, the coppers are searching for the killers and the Pakistan team has been fingerprinted.
Tasmania Beat NSW by about 430 runs to win their first pura cup final!
antihippy
03-23-2007, 01:00 AM
yeah, i just read that.
cricket has come to a low, low point.
samthebassman
03-23-2007, 01:33 AM
Yeah it's a disgrace!
Just watching a reply of the scotland & netherlands game, 2 dutch players batting, Zuiderant & Ten De Schate, they look really really good, some awesome shots.
Aotearoa
03-23-2007, 01:44 AM
Its not surprising in the least.
The Pakistan cricket team have historically been quite controversial, involved in illegal betting and match fixing. When people put lots of money on Pakistan to get further in the competition then they did, there will be a lot of upset people. Someone decided to take out Woolmer unfortunately. It smacks of organised crime though, no marks around his neck even though he was found to be strangled and no there was no forced entry. I highly doubt it was a player or someone from management. A true low for cricket.
Who wants to coach Pakistan now?
samthebassman
03-23-2007, 01:49 AM
Its not surprising in the least.
The Pakistan cricket team have historically been quite controversial, involved in illegal betting and match fixing. When people put lots of money on Pakistan to get further in the competition then they did, there will be a lot of upset people. Someone decided to take out Woolmer unfortunately. It smacks of organised crime though, no marks around his neck even though he was found to be strangled and no there was no forced entry. I highly doubt it was a player or someone from management. A true low for cricket.
Who wants to coach Pakistan now?
You hit the nail on the head brother.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-23-2007, 02:51 AM
If they do I hope Greg Chappell doesn't wind up dead!
I may have accidentally pos'd you for this comment, but make no mistake, it was meant to be a neg. It makes me sick that you would make a joke out of the Bob Woolmer incident, out of the death of a great figure in the cricketing world. Hell, making fun of something in light of anyone's death is hideous. To be honest, I hope you ****ing die, I really do.
Plus it wasn't funny. Go to hell you tasteless prick.
samthebassman
03-23-2007, 05:57 AM
Making fun of someone's death? Dude you are an idiot, you have had it in for me for a while, but that is ok because it doesn't bother me anymore,this is my last word, it was just an observation nothing more, take it as it is!
P.S. Cheers for the positive rep, I wont be returning the favour seeing how you want me to die and everything.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-23-2007, 08:42 AM
How dare you even suggest that of me, what is your problem? I would love to meet you face to face and watch you temble! watch as you your eyes glaze over and you piss yourself you stupid little ****er!
Oh man i'm so scared of your -1 neg rep.
You're so pathetic.
samthebassman
03-23-2007, 08:45 AM
Dude, you are a whining coward!
JumpTheF**kUp
03-23-2007, 08:47 AM
Why? Because I find it disgraceful that you'd make fun out of somebody's death?
Your logic is as retarded as you are.
eug008
03-23-2007, 08:51 AM
dw, I neged him for you JumpTheF**kUp.
samthebassman
03-23-2007, 08:52 AM
You are cowardly because what you wished on me and because of your spineless post a couple of pages ago.
I made fun of no one, I made an observation and a comment, you over reacted, if you wanna know my thoughts on the bob woolmer situation I suggest you read my previous posts.
Why is it I only get in fights with silly twats on this thread?
samthebassman
03-23-2007, 09:04 AM
Come on India, sri lanka are 1/31 with jayasuriya out.
samthebassman
03-23-2007, 09:31 AM
Sri Lanka 2/53 after 13 overs.
Aotearoa
03-23-2007, 10:06 AM
Even if India win this match I still think Sri Lanka are the team to beat in the comp. With there batting they have the hottest batsmen this summer in Jayasuriya and then there bowling attack has the pace and experience to get them through the tough games. India just look to inconsistent at the moment to get anywhere further than the top 8.
badtaste
03-23-2007, 10:09 AM
Even if India win this match I still think Sri Lanka are the team to beat in the comp. With there batting they have the hottest batsmen this summer in Jayasuriya and then there bowling attack has the pace and experience to get them through the tough games. India just look to inconsistent at the moment to get anywhere further than the top 8.
What's up dood? Welcome.
Aotearoa
03-23-2007, 10:22 AM
Cheer bro just stating the obvious to all those the people who still think Aussie is the No1 team to beat in the comp. Aussie are dangerous,dont get me wrong, but in all honesty they didnt have the best lead up to the comp as Sri Lanka did.
samthebassman
03-23-2007, 07:23 PM
You are right, but I think the Aussies are looking like they are building up and peaking at the right time, I personally think the South Africans are the complete opposite, great build up but will peak to early.
Sri Lanka will be dangerous but they still dont convince me, especially if you take a couple of very early wickets and expose the out of form Jayawardena, their 5th bowler may also be a weakness, if they have to get overs from arnold/dilshan/silva.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-23-2007, 08:24 PM
Cheer bro just stating the obvious to all those the people who still think Aussie is the No1 team to beat in the comp. Aussie are dangerous,dont get me wrong, but in all honesty they didnt have the best lead up to the comp as Sri Lanka did.
I like you.
Sri Lanka won, yessie.
I feel so sorry for Indian fans, they've got to be heartbroken.
antihippy
03-23-2007, 08:47 PM
is the australia south africa match on today?
antihippy
03-23-2007, 08:48 PM
is the australia south africa match on today?
badtaste
03-23-2007, 09:08 PM
Yes, and yes. haha
West Indies won by 8 wickets West Indies 190/2 to ireland's Ireland 183/8. No surprises there I guess. Chanderpaul made 102 not out.
Sri Lanka 254/6 (50 ov)
India 185 (43.3 ov)
Sri Lanka won by 69 runs.
Tharanga and Silva were top scorers for Sri Lanka (64 and 59 respectively)
Only Dravid and Sehwag provided resistance, but fell pretty short of the mark. Muralitharan took 3 Ws.
Vaughan: Cricket is corrupt
Michael Vaughan on Friday night shed a piercing new light on the Bob Woolmer tragedy when he alleged that match-fixing is still going on at the highest level of cricket.
Look at link below for more
Reference:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/worldcricket.html?in_article_id=444281&in_page_id=1991
I don't know. I don't see how corruption could occur these days, especially given all the scrutiny in the past.
OHyeah, Symonds has been recalled for the match against South Africa. Unfortunately, Hodge is taken out.
antihippy
03-23-2007, 10:39 PM
^^ money can make man do terrible, terrible things.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-23-2007, 11:25 PM
I think taking out Hodge is a terrible call. He's their inform batsmen, even more so than Ponting.
The upside is that they'll be easier to beat for Sri Lanka. :)
badtaste
03-23-2007, 11:51 PM
I think taking out Hodge is a terrible call. He's their inform batsmen, even more so than Ponting.
The upside is that they'll be easier to beat for Sri Lanka. :)
haha, but you're not going to drop Ponting, are you? It's a huge risk. It makes me worried to think of the possible negative consequences...
antihippy
03-24-2007, 12:06 AM
^^ ponting is essential in the australian team. not only is he a great batsman, he's also one of the best fielders in the world and an instinctive captain.
TheBigMachine
03-24-2007, 12:12 AM
Hodge for symonds...I'd do it. Symonds at that extra dimension that Hodge doesnt.
Aotearoa
03-24-2007, 02:21 AM
Hodge for symonds...I'd do it. Symonds at that extra dimension that Hodge doesnt.
No way not when Symonds is coming back from a injury which restricts is cricket ability. What happens if he injures himself again in the game vs SA. Its not worth risking Symonds over a nothing game, there in the top 8. Give him a extra week to continue to build is arm up. A 100% Hodge coming off a century is better than a 80% Symonds whose been out for several months.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-24-2007, 02:40 AM
^ Exactly my point, just put more eloquently.
Indian people are stoning the Indian players' houses and burning pictures/effigies of them. When will they learn that it's just a game?
Although tbh, I probably would've done that if Sri Lanka had bowed out in the first round. :(
TheBigMachine
03-24-2007, 02:49 AM
Indians are nuts man. Seriously, they're absolutely crazy.
No way not when Symonds is coming back from a injury which restricts is cricket ability. What happens if he injures himself again in the game vs SA. Its not worth risking Symonds over a nothing game, there in the top 8. Give him a extra week to continue to build is arm up. A 100% Hodge coming off a century is better than a 80% Symonds whose been out for several months.
I thought he was 100%, not 80. But you make good points. Very true, I guess.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 02:50 AM
Keep Hodge, drop Hayden, Watson to open!
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 02:52 AM
No way not when Symonds is coming back from a injury which restricts is cricket ability. What happens if he injures himself again in the game vs SA. Its not worth risking Symonds over a nothing game, there in the top 8. Give him a extra week to continue to build is arm up. A 100% Hodge coming off a century is better than a 80% Symonds whose been out for several months.
I think it has been said that Symonds will only be able to throw 25-30m for the rest of the world cup.
Aotearoa
03-24-2007, 03:15 AM
Keep Hodge, drop Hayden, Watson to open!
Tough decision with Hayden/Watson, Watson has played well and may be in better form then Hayden I would keep Hayden in for this game though. Give him one more go to hit himself into form otherwise bring Watson in. Saying that I know Buchanon will stick with Hayden, unless hes injured or he has a abissmal match vs SA which I doubt it. He'll raise his game for this arch rival match.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 03:53 AM
You are right, Buchanan won't leave out Haydo's and I hope he does get some runs, Watson deserves a decent run at the top of the order but I guess he will have to bide his time.
TheBigMachine
03-24-2007, 03:55 AM
I still maintain that Watson simply isn't good enough to hand the stress of top order batting as well as first change bowling.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 03:57 AM
He has proven with his limited opportunities that he is, I think he can do it in the one dayers and I think he is a great chance to take over from Justin Langer in the test team as well.
TheBigMachine
03-24-2007, 03:59 AM
No way. Langer will retire before he get's dropped. He scored a bucketload of runs this season. Watson is still to prove himself anywhere at test level.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 04:00 AM
Haha, langer has retired!
eug008
03-24-2007, 04:39 AM
heh, dropping Hodge was a bad decision, I think anyways.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 04:55 AM
Yeah, it should be a great game, the Aussies are lucky that they have a lot of guys in good form at the moment.
Untitled
03-24-2007, 05:16 AM
Oh i hope the South Africa Vs Austrialia match is a good one, tbh i would of rather seen that in the semis or final though instead of the first round, more would be riding on it then and it would of been better, oh well.
England should win too, should.
eug008
03-24-2007, 05:32 AM
world cup seems to be finally hitting free to air TV tuesday night :cool:
TheBigMachine
03-24-2007, 05:36 AM
Oh yeah.
So he has.
I forgot that completely :(
now im upset again :upset:
JumpTheF**kUp
03-24-2007, 05:38 AM
Keep Hodge, drop Hayden, Watson to open!
I think it has been said that Symonds will only be able to throw 25-30m for the rest of the world cup.
Hello, double post.
TheBigMachine
03-24-2007, 05:44 AM
jtfu man your usually a cool dude. sam probably knows he double posted there man that wasn't necessary. can we drop our grudges pls?
JumpTheF**kUp
03-24-2007, 05:49 AM
Well.
1. There is an edit button. It's really not that hard to use.
2. He's a complete tool.
3. Internet ettiquette. He needs to learn some.
4. He's a complete tool.
Plus he posted pretty much the same thing in all of my journals on the reviews site. Something along the lines of "I hate you", except with less eloquence and more spelling mistakes.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 05:55 AM
Oh i hope the South Africa Vs Austrialia match is a good one, tbh i would of rather seen that in the semis or final though instead of the first round, more would be riding on it then and it would of been better, oh well.
England should win too, should.
Is big Freddie back for the poms?
Big Machine, did you play today?
Untitled
03-24-2007, 06:00 AM
Is big Freddie back for the poms?
Big Machine, did you play today?
Yeah i believe he is, hes had extra training sessions and stuff, he wants to make an impression tomorrow to make up for the pedalo thing or something haha.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 06:05 AM
He is overdue for a big game, also is Vaughan fit? I heard he hurt his knee again.
Untitled
03-24-2007, 06:09 AM
Yeah, from what i remember the news said hes just had his weekly injury scare but should be ok. I think we are injury free tbh, if they play on form then we should easily win, but there too inconsistent, on there day they can beat anyone, but they rarely have them days.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 06:12 AM
Thats right, this is the type of game that they are a chance of dropping, they shouldn't but you never know.
Still waiting for KP to make his mark on the world cup.
Untitled
03-24-2007, 06:26 AM
KP will make his mark if we get threw to the super 8.
I gotta go work, how ****, cant listen to the cricket all day, :(
ciao.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-24-2007, 06:30 AM
Cya man.
I personally want South Africa to beat Australia tonight, but it won't happen. Australia are just too good.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 06:35 AM
You had better believe it!
TheBigMachine
03-24-2007, 06:38 AM
Well.
1. There is an edit button. It's really not that hard to use.
2. He's a complete tool.
3. Internet ettiquette. He needs to learn some.
4. He's a complete tool.
Plus he posted pretty much the same thing in all of my journals on the reviews site. Something along the lines of "I hate you", except with less eloquence and more spelling mistakes.
thats fair enough then bro. i have no arguments with you man im gonna keep it that way.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-24-2007, 06:41 AM
I've got no problem with you either man, you're pretty cool.
If Australia don't win the World Cup, excellent things will happen for cricket.
TheBigMachine
03-24-2007, 06:47 AM
yeah man its all good
i lol'd at your second comment, though it's kind of true. but i think alot of people are taking the wrong stance towards australia's dominance, and waiting for them to slump, i'd rather a whole lot of teams step UP to the challenge, and raise the bar for international cricket on the whole.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 06:49 AM
It looks like there will be a Bob Woolmer Cricket Academy built in South Africa, it will be built to benefit world cricket, not just South Africa.
If Australia lose the world cup how will it benefit cricket?
NZ have sent Daryl Tuffey home with a shoulder injury & he will be replaced by Chris Martin.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-24-2007, 07:03 AM
Because. It would signify an end to the dominance which has made International cricket such a bore to watch. I mean honestly, who wants to watch Australia win every game they play? That's no fun.
Which is, in part, why I considered the CB series to be so good. Because Australia didn't win.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 07:22 AM
I hardly think international cricket is boring, if anything Australia's dominance and constant lifting of the bar has made cricket more exciting.
Finally teams like South Africa and New Zealand are starting to adopt the Aussies playing style and are throwing caution to the wind in an attempt to win at any cost and from any position.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-24-2007, 07:39 AM
I disagree with that.
For one thing, seeing Australia belt the English team senseless in the Ashes was one example of cricket becoming boring, whilst the Champions Trophy '06 and the last 2 World Cups have shown that it's a problem in one dayers as well. It's just boring and repetitive to watch Australia win everything over and over again. The last few months have been great, as Australia have had their losses as well as their wins, making for some exciting cricket. It's also not fun watching teams come to Australia every year for a triangular series, and leave having been pummelled by Australia. I've even heard some Aussies complaining about how cricket is boring because Australia win everything, and I've also heard some vehement supporters of the Australian Cricket Team hope for a team that will come and beat Australia several times on their home turf, just so they can see something a little different.
etc.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 08:18 AM
Thats fine, when the aussies played poorly and england played out of their skins in the 2005 ashes series, everybody thought it was great for cricket, it was because it brought interest back to the game but then when the poms are flogged this summer everyone says it is boring.
Everyone likes to see a good contest but the fault is with the rest of the cricket world, not Australia. There also seems to be a bit of the tall poppy syndrome going around as well.
If it where Sri Lanka who were the world cricket champions I think you might be singing a different tune.
South Africa sent the Aussies in!
Inkstar
03-24-2007, 08:24 AM
Cmon Aus for the win tonight. Should be a great game. We need Roy back though.
TimCahillForPM
03-24-2007, 08:33 AM
Australia are going to win the World Cup.
That is it.
And Dwayne Leverock is king... and queen... and all tiers of royalty, he takes up the whole palace.
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 08:34 AM
Roy is back, aussies 0/5 after the first over
Aus 0/24 (3 ov.)
Aussies are swatting them, 0/50 from 4.5 overs
samthebassman
03-24-2007, 10:19 AM
Haha, Haydo's creamed the fastest world cup hundred ever, 101 off 68 balls.
I guess Watto has to keep waiting.
Fair chance there could be another big chase on tonight.
Aotearoa
03-24-2007, 10:23 AM
Haha, Haydo's creamed the fastest world cup hundred ever, 101 off 68 balls.
I guess Watto has to keep waiting.
What did I say Hayden steps up to the challenge. If we need Chris Martin in any match we are screwed.
Untitled
03-24-2007, 04:32 PM
Pretty easy for england today, threw :D
Austrialia, good game on them, looked like South Africa where going to fight it out to the very last runs, shame they didnt, looking forward to watching that match more then the england one.
antihippy
03-25-2007, 12:20 AM
who didn't see the win coming? no one.
badtaste
03-25-2007, 01:44 AM
nice to see Hogg getting wickets. As I said, cricket's a game of patience. Some times you do well, some times you don't. People who bagged Hogg feel free to swallow your words (and while you're doing that, start bagging Hussey for not putting on the runs in recent times).
Some trivia:
Ponting, who hit a record 26th World Cup six to move ahead of Indian batsman Sourav Ganguly, also became the seventh batsman to reach 10,000 ODI runs.
Um, and JTFU, regarding your comments, don't wish Australia to lose. Rather, wish the other team to beat Australia. I can accept that. As Samthebassman wrote, we don't want Australia to fall in skillzors. Instead, we want the other cricketing nations to match Australia.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 02:57 AM
nice to see Hogg getting wickets. As I said, cricket's a game of patience. Some times you do well, some times you don't. People who bagged Hogg feel free to swallow your words (and while you're doing that, start bagging Hussey for not putting on the runs in recent times).
Some trivia:
Um, and JTFU, regarding your comments, don't wish Australia to lose. Rather, wish the other team to beat Australia. I can accept that. As Samthebassman wrote, we don't want Australia to fall in skillzors. Instead, we want the other cricketing nations to match Australia.
Great point on hoggy, he had a lean spell but he was always gonna bounce back. We will see about the Huss as well, it doesnt take to long for the negative nellies to come out.
I am looking into getting a new cricket bat, and up for some suggestions. I would like a bat that will tide me over for a few years, and still be very competitive. Price range is anywhere from $200-400'ish, and of course, specials would be lovely.
Been looking at the Impala range and the high end bats. They look phenomenal and all I have heard about them, is positive and praise. Rebel has an Impala that I saw today, on special for $300 (save $100). The sign said that it was a Impala exclusive to Rebel, but I cannot remember the name, so I'm wondering if anyone had experienced it or knew what it was like.
Suggestions welcome, thanks guys.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 04:18 AM
The weight/thickness is important, no point in a getting a thick bat if you cant pick it up, the problem with thick bats that weigh around 2'8 is that they are worth between 5 or 600 bucks.
Check the grain of the bat, the more the better.
I wouldn't worry about the brand so much, I would only be concerned with how it feels, you have to be comfortable with it.
I use a Kookaburra "beast", it is a good stick, my bro is sponsored by woodworm and he has one of their yellow sticks (like KP uses) and it is unreal, it weighs 2'8 and is around 50mm thick in the meat, very expensive if you have to fork out for it though, but it is worth it.
I find that most impala bats are a bit heavy and the pick up is not comfortable.
badtaste
03-25-2007, 04:55 AM
Get the bat that Ricky Ponting uses (it sure works for him). Nah, I have no idea about bats. Maybe try a cricketing specialist if you're looking for wonderbat.
Forgot to mention, Watson's run out was awesome.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 05:41 AM
More luck than anything but yeah, Watto is the man!
TheBigMachine
03-25-2007, 05:42 AM
Bats eh? Anything comfortable. Dont buy a bat you don't like the feel of. I use a Gray Niccols Gladius, about 2.75 and a great middle. It's a great bat. But some people think the handle's too thin so it's really up to you. Like sam said, just check all the basic quality indicators like grain and that and your set.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 05:43 AM
You can combat a thin handle by adding an extra bat grip or two.
The weight/thickness is important, no point in a getting a thick bat if you cant pick it up, the problem with thick bats that weigh around 2'8 is that they are worth between 5 or 600 bucks.
Check the grain of the bat, the more the better.
I wouldn't worry about the brand so much, I would only be concerned with how it feels, you have to be comfortable with it.
I use a Kookaburra "beast", it is a good stick, my bro is sponsored by woodworm and he has one of their yellow sticks (like KP uses) and it is unreal, it weighs 2'8 and is around 50mm thick in the meat, very expensive if you have to fork out for it though, but it is worth it.
I find that most impala bats are a bit heavy and the pick up is not comfortable.
Obviously I will go for the bat that feels right, and is the right weight for me. It would be stupid to pick something to heavy or too light.
Bat's that weigh about 2'8 are not always $5-600, I don't know what you are talking about with that, Sam.
I will not be going with a big brand name like Kookaburra or Grey Nicholls anymore, as they are certainly not value for money and I am sick of them.
And I have heard the exact opposite about the Impala bats. I heard that they pick up very light, have massive ping and great middles and are certainly value for money.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 06:04 AM
If you dont want my advice then dont take it, if you dont like me then that is fine, Iam cool with that.
You clearly dont know what you are doing or what you are talking about and I'm trying to help you out.
Bats that weigh 2'8 and are THICK are very expensive, anybody can afford a 2'8 stick that is 2cm wide but for a good quality bat you will pay a lot of money.
I know what I'm talking about, I have played a lot of cricket, used a lot of bats and I sure as hell have never asked anyone for advice on how to buy a bat on the net.
Please dont reply to all my posts with a smartarse jibe.
Thankyou.
I would like anyone's advice, but when they give it, and I have heard different to what they say, obviously I will say. It's got nothing to do with me not liking you, it's normal conversation.
Oh you just keep getting stupider and stupider, don't you. You can get a good quality 2'8 pound, thick bat for less than $500. 2'8 is quite light anyway, I am after something heavier.
The guy from the internet says he knows a lot about bats, so I have to believe him!
How is asking for advice on the internet bad? In actual fact, it's a smart thing to do, because someone might have experience with Impala bat's and might have something worth while to say.
Please post something that is actually thought out and backed up.
Thank you, idiot.
TheBigMachine
03-25-2007, 06:11 AM
Bro, he didnt.
^^ @ sam
Boys please increase the peace out here. Alf bro i agree with you, you can get great 2 pound 8 bats for under 5/600 look into Screaming Cats. A friend of mine has one of them, they're great bats man.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 06:18 AM
My experience with Impala bats are that they are heavy, very thick and have a bad pick up, I said that already.
You say you spoke to a bat expert on the net, was he trying to sell you something?
TheBigMachine
03-25-2007, 06:19 AM
He was talking about you.
Screaming Cat looks like a very good bat maker. I would be interested to see one of their bats.
:lol:
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 06:21 AM
Clear as mud.
Awaiting another jibe.
Paragraph 3, post #3614.
Screaming Cats are a good stick but they arent cheap.
You say you spoke to a bat expert on the net, was he trying to sell you something?
I do not know what the **** you are talking about here.
TheBigMachine
03-25-2007, 06:25 AM
The guy from the internet says he knows a lot about bats, so I have to believe him!
He was talking about that comment there, I believe.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 06:27 AM
Again, paragraph 3, post 3614.
Sam should learn how to quote and ninja edit, tbh.
Sam should learn how to detect sarcasm, tbh.
Sam should learn how to figure out English, tbh.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 06:32 AM
Ok there is the jibe, I guess your wit, guile, sarcasm and net skills far out weigh mine, congratulations.
Thank you, but no need to point out the obvious.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 06:36 AM
A pity you dont know how to buy a decent bat, or even recognize one.
Liberi Fatali
03-25-2007, 06:44 AM
You can combat a thin handle by adding an extra bat grip or two.Doesn't stop me from constantly worrying about it breaking. :p
I'm not a big fan of the 'power hitting' bats. My style of batting requires a light bat, for quick strokeplay and low level of fatigue whilst playing.
In other news, I've got an doctors appointment tomorrow to look at my knee, hopefully if all goes well I'll be able to play indoor cricket this winter at 100%.
Grumma
03-25-2007, 06:47 AM
I can only slog so I just pick out whichever bat I can swing easiest :p
TheBigMachine
03-25-2007, 06:52 AM
That is so cave troll man, you should come play here you'd fit the bill quite nicely.
Grumma
03-25-2007, 06:53 AM
Haha and bowl by big loopie off breaks that go about 2 metres above the batsmen's head?
Awsome
TheBigMachine
03-25-2007, 06:56 AM
oh my god your like run of the mill feddies player.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 06:56 AM
My bat is about 2'12, it's ok for me as Iam reasonably big and strong through my upper body, but after batting for an hour or so into an innings I find that using a heavier bat increases fatigue, so ideally a light, thick bat is the way to go.
Grumma
03-25-2007, 06:58 AM
oh my god your like run of the mill feddies player.
Haha.
No joke I reckon I could bowl the ball then run down the other end of the pitch to keep to it. That's how slow I bowl.
It's surprisingly effective though.
As for my batting; I don't have a back foot.
It's drive, slog or nothing :p
TheBigMachine
03-25-2007, 07:09 AM
Good call.
Make sure you dont tell people that, they'll quickly take advantage.
Grumma
03-25-2007, 07:11 AM
lol yeah . ..
Though I'm pretty good at hanging the bat out and getting edges to gaps :p
TheBigMachine
03-25-2007, 07:14 AM
I always get caught :(
A pity you dont know how to buy a decent bat, or even recognize one.
How do you even know that, and how can you even say that? Again, please back-up your stupid and arrogant comments.
Untitled
03-25-2007, 03:08 PM
I want a woodworm bat :(
just because they have the cuts into the side to help cut down on geting edges to slips, as thats how i used to get out most haha. I dunno how effective they are though.
Grumma
03-25-2007, 07:43 PM
I always get caught :(
I don't think I've ever been caught out.
Been run out a few times, and also bowled trying reverse sweeps etc
badtaste
03-25-2007, 08:22 PM
Haha these scores are funny:
Bermuda 94/9 (21.0), Bangladesh 96/3 (17.3)
waste of money if you turned up to that one.
Final eight
Australia
South AFrica
England
Bangladesh
Ireland
New Zealand
Sri Lanka
West Indies
Very odd not to see Pakistan and INdia there.
samthebassman
03-25-2007, 09:14 PM
How do you even know that, and how can you even say that? Again, please back-up your stupid and arrogant comments.
I guess that like you I cant, I just get this feeling you dont know what you are talking about.
Other news Lou Vincent has been sent home with a broken wrist and is being replaced by Hamish Marshall.
TheBigMachine
03-26-2007, 01:27 AM
That is possibly the coolest final eight ever.\
Final eight
Australia
South AFrica
England
Bangladesh
Ireland
New Zealand
Sri Lanka
West Indies
badtaste
03-26-2007, 01:34 AM
Yeah, very nice to see two minnows.
Anyone care to explain how this next stage operates?
TheBigMachine
03-26-2007, 01:37 AM
Pretty much the same as the first I think. I suppose it would just be whoever didnt play each other in round one, play each other here, and then winners of those games go through to the semi's. Im just guessing though.
Grumma
03-26-2007, 01:38 AM
Yeah that's about how it works
badtaste
03-26-2007, 01:43 AM
Yeah, alright then.
I heard on the radio that Australia only need to win a certain amount of matches to go through to the finals, so I was assuming that it was a roundrobin of sorts.
antihippy
03-26-2007, 01:47 AM
what would anyone recommend as a good starting bat, under 200 AUS$?
TheBigMachine
03-26-2007, 01:48 AM
It could be, I cant remember anymore. Check the ICC website.
samthebassman
03-26-2007, 03:32 AM
Yeah each team plays 6 games, they dont play the teams that qualified from the same pool. From there the 4 best performed teams go through to the semi's.
I think.
Australia is in the position that it can drop two matches, and still make the semi-finals, which is dangerous for the other teams.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-26-2007, 03:45 AM
So is Sri Lanka :D
I'm tipping Sri Lanka, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand to go through, with England, Ireland, Bangladesh and West Indies being the teams who lose consistently. Pretty sure Ireland will lose every game, as will Bangladesh (aside from their Ireland game). SL and Aus should get in easily with their 3 wins already, and NZ and SA are good enough to get in by winning against the 4 minors. Or something.
I'm probably wrong but whatever.
samthebassman
03-26-2007, 04:21 AM
So is Sri Lanka :D
I'm tipping Sri Lanka, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand to go through, with England, Ireland, Bangladesh and West Indies being the teams who lose consistently. Pretty sure Ireland will lose every game, as will Bangladesh (aside from their Ireland game). SL and Aus should get in easily with their 3 wins already, and NZ and SA are good enough to get in by winning against the 4 minors. Or something.
I'm probably wrong but whatever.
You are probably right, the West Idies might surprise a few people though, New Zealand will be unsettled aswell with Lou Vincent going home, they will now have to re shuffle their batting line up.
TheBigMachine
03-26-2007, 04:30 AM
Lou Vincent is a great batter, I love watching him.
Untitled
03-26-2007, 04:53 AM
Sri Lanker will win the tournament im betting, im backing them for the win, and England of course haha.
samthebassman
03-26-2007, 05:35 AM
No chance, Australia to win from South Africa, Sri Lanka wont be able to stop either of those teams.
badtaste
03-26-2007, 05:48 AM
I'm thinking Australia will win, but that's because I'm ****ing ignorant and have no knowledge of the other country's forms. But yeah, I have Sri Lanka up there as a contender.
Ireland = dark horse. I should put some money on them.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-26-2007, 05:49 AM
Sri Lanka will beat SA.
Australia they can beat as well, they'll just have to play really well.
samthebassman
03-26-2007, 06:02 AM
I think Sri Lanka's batting struggles in the middle order and the bowling struggles after Vaas, Malinga & Murali.
samthebassman
03-26-2007, 06:40 PM
World Cup rest day's suck, I'm to impatient.
Britney Diva
03-26-2007, 06:46 PM
I think Ireland have a outside chance against New Zealand, Bangladesh and England, but we're still the worst side currently in the competition. I don't think we'll embarrass ourselves in any of the games, to put it bluntly.
TheBigMachine
03-26-2007, 07:18 PM
You've saved yourself any embarassment by making it this far anyway. Be proud.
samthebassman
03-27-2007, 12:26 AM
I think Ireland have a outside chance against New Zealand, Bangladesh and England, but we're still the worst side currently in the competition. I don't think we'll embarrass ourselves in any of the games, to put it bluntly.
Ireland are no chance against NZ but yeah the other 2 games should be good.
TheBigMachine
03-27-2007, 01:09 AM
If Ireland beat England...
Oh my god.
Much rejoicing will be had. And the two english teachers at my school are gonna cop it.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-27-2007, 03:00 AM
No chance, Australia to win from South Africa, Sri Lanka wont be able to stop either of those teams.
I think Sri Lanka's batting struggles in the middle order and the bowling struggles after Vaas, Malinga & Murali.
You're so ignorant and stupid that it's almost funny.
TheBigMachine
03-27-2007, 03:01 AM
Sri Lanka should top South Africa, and it'll be tight with Australia, to be true.
samthebassman
03-27-2007, 04:26 AM
You're so ignorant and stupid that it's almost funny.
Maybe, we can chat about how the aussies are gonna whop the lankans if ya want.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-27-2007, 04:33 AM
They won't "wop them", as you so eloquently put it. At best they'll beat them marginally.
samthebassman
03-27-2007, 04:37 AM
Why did you say that Iam ignorant & stupid if you agree Australia will win?
Liberi Fatali
03-27-2007, 04:43 AM
I think Ireland have a outside chance against New Zealand,
Based on what?
TheBigMachine
03-27-2007, 05:43 AM
Well New Zealand have lost a key batter for a start, which means a new and inexperienced player has to come in, with a possible order re-shuffle. All these things are disrupting factors in a teams performance.
antihippy
03-27-2007, 06:00 AM
guys, anyone knows when the next game is?
TheBigMachine
03-27-2007, 06:04 AM
tonight.
Untitled
03-27-2007, 06:10 AM
Well New Zealand have lost a key batter for a start, which means a new and inexperienced player has to come in, with a possible order re-shuffle. All these things are disrupting factors in a teams performance.
They should still beat Ireland though.
Today should be a good match.
TheBigMachine
03-27-2007, 06:12 AM
They should still beat Ireland though.
Well yeah, they SHOULD but funny things happen in cricket, as im sure we're all aware.
badtaste
03-27-2007, 06:44 AM
Yo people, I'm going to be requesting a long term ban in a short while, so just want to say it's been good chatting with you all about cricket and various other sports.
Stay healthy, stay positive (stop arguing about the small stuff peeps, too much **** goes on in the real world to be having a bad time on the net) and hope you all have good lives.
Grumma
03-27-2007, 07:40 AM
You're so ignorant and stupid that it's almost funny.
On paper South Africa and Australia are ahead of Sri Lanka.
And on top of that Sri Lanka have one power hitter while the other 2 teams have several; which will be a factor on the small Caribbean grounds
JumpTheF**kUp
03-27-2007, 07:42 AM
^^ You're not taking into account the 70 odd spinners that Sri Lanka have, who happen to function well on slow West Indies Pitches. Plus, Sri Lanka have at least 5 batsmen who can make centuries on a regular basis and who can bat under pressure, and you can't discount their current form.
Why are you requesting a ban badtaste?
Why did you say that Iam ignorant & stupid if you agree Australia will win?
Because you're acting like you know something about the Sri Lankan cricket team when you clearly don't.
badtaste
03-27-2007, 07:46 AM
Why are you requesting a ban?
Just to force myself into staying away from the forum.
Grumma
03-27-2007, 07:51 AM
^^ You're not taking into account the 70 odd spinners that Sri Lanka have, who happen to function well on slow West Indies Pitches. Plus, Sri Lanka have at least 5 batsmen who can make centuries on a regular basis and who can bat under pressure, and you can't discount their current form.
Unfortunately for them they can only at most 10 of those spinners.
Their current form? When was the last time they beat either South Africa? Or more importantly Australia?
I'd suggest there's a reason those to are #1 and #2 on the ODI rankings
JumpTheF**kUp
03-27-2007, 07:59 AM
Just to force myself into staying away from the forum.
I might need to resort to doing that. Just for the sake of my grades.
Grumma, when I said recent form I meant their form in the last year or so, when they won a large percentage of their games.
antihippy
03-27-2007, 08:00 AM
there are lies, lies and statistics.
does statistics really play such a large part in cricket? why not just watch the game and see how it flows?
Untitled
03-27-2007, 09:05 AM
Statisticaly Kevin Petierson is the worlds best ODI batter atm.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6494577.stm
So ha, we will win the world cup for sure now!!!
With all other best batters on form, i mean vaughan is constantly geting at least 20! and Flintoff in great shape too :o
<_<
Untitled
03-27-2007, 10:01 AM
Group A
South Africa
West Indies
Bangladesh
Group B
England
Australia
Zimbabwe
Group C
New Zealand
Sri Lanka
Kenya
Group D
Pakistan
India
Scotland
20/20 world cup groups, dunno if anyone else has seen this, but man am i excited for that :eek:
Oooh pakistan vs india will be a good one.
Gonna be a fun tournament i like 20/20 cricket.
I'm probably gonna be seeing the 20/20 matches against West Indies in England this summer.
Britney Diva
03-27-2007, 02:34 PM
Based on what?
I dunno, wishful thinking? I'm expecting South Africa, Australia and Sri Lanka to rack up really big totals but I'm not so sure about New Zealand, especially with the absence of Vincent. Still a long shot, mind.
Australia vs West Indies has been turned into a 20-20 match, it seems. West Indies have been set 163 to chase, which is a big total. Great match to watch, right now.
Edit: The rain continued, and has ended this match for today. West Indies 50 overs will continue tomorrow.
Untitled
03-27-2007, 03:17 PM
Australia vs West Indies has been turned into a 20-20 match, it seems. West Indies have been set 163 to chase, which is a big total. Great match to watch, right now.
Edit: The rain continued, and has ended this match for today. West Indies 50 overs will continue tomorrow.
How crap i was looking forward to watching the whole highlights tonight, the aussie innings will have to do
Grumma
03-27-2007, 07:45 PM
Haydos made 144.
Not bad :p
lol at the ppl who tihkn any team other than australia will iwn
Liberi Fatali
03-27-2007, 08:47 PM
lol at arrogant australians
Grumma
03-27-2007, 09:35 PM
I think we have reason to be arrogant seeing as we've clearly been the best team of the last decade.
samthebassman
03-27-2007, 11:04 PM
^^ You're not taking into account the 70 odd spinners that Sri Lanka have, who happen to function well on slow West Indies Pitches. Plus, Sri Lanka have at least 5 batsmen who can make centuries on a regular basis and who can bat under pressure, and you can't discount their current form.
Why are you requesting a ban badtaste?
Because you're acting like you know something about the Sri Lankan cricket team when you clearly don't.
The Sri Lankans have 1 world class spinner in Murali and the rest are only part timers at very best, Jayasuriya bowls steadily but he is not a match winning bowler and I wouldnt hold my hopes on Arnold, Dilshan & Silva to bowl you guys to victory.
The batting line up is reasonable but unpredictable, in Tharanga you have a good young opener but his form is very patchy and he either gets a few or none, Jayasuriya is still world class, Jayawardena is world class when batting well but he looks horribly out of form at the moment, Sangakarra is your one consistant run maker who always seems to do well, Silva is playing well at the moment but he has hardlt proven himself at international level, Dilshan is very inconsistant and rarely makes big scores and Arnold has not played well for a couple of years.
Untitled
03-28-2007, 04:23 AM
I think we have reason to be arrogant seeing as we've clearly been the best team of the last decade.
Clearly your the biggest cunts of the last decade as well.
Congrats to you lot, you have a quality side, but that does not mean that you win the tournament easily.
Who says you will keep this form you have for the whole series? I mean look at the commonwealth bank series, we we getting hammered from day one in that, but by the end you lot collapsed, we beat you and you went on to loose 5 odi in a run, which was the first time in a long while, only 3 months ago, there's absolutely nothing to say that wont happen again.
Theres still 4 weeks left, anything could happen yet in terms of form, injury or just the fact that its cricket.
Grumma
03-28-2007, 04:29 AM
And there's absolutely nothing to say that we won't go on to win our third consecutive world cup.
At our best there is no other team that can match us.
Whether we play our best, or at least good enough, for the rest of the tournament remains to be seen
Untitled
03-28-2007, 04:30 AM
And there's absolutely nothing to say that we won't go on to win our third consecutive world cup.
At our best there is no other team that can match us.
Whether we play our best, or at least good enough, for the rest of the tournament remains to be seen
Yeah, but the majority of austrialians seems to think that they have the tournament rapped up already.
Grumma
03-28-2007, 04:34 AM
wrapped*
And it's known as confidence
samthebassman
03-28-2007, 05:39 AM
I'm confident the Aussies should win, they are the best team but everyone knows cricket is a funny game.
One thing is for sure though, England have no hope of winning it.
samthebassman
03-28-2007, 05:55 AM
Iam just watching the replay of the Windies bowling to the Aussies and I gotta tell ya, Marlon Samuels is an even bigger chucker than Murali!
JumpTheF**kUp
03-28-2007, 05:55 AM
The one thing that's for sure is that supporters of the Australian cricket team are complete wankers.
Australia will win every game in the super eights, become cocky arrogant pricks (moreso than usual I mean), and then lose in the semi's to SA or NZ or SL.
If Australia win the World Cup i'll probably kill myself.
Marlon Samuels is an even bigger chucker than Murali!
1. Murali doesn't chuck
2. Shut the **** up
3. This is an example of typical Australian Cricket team supporter wankerism
4. EDIT BUTTON FFS
samthebassman
03-28-2007, 05:57 AM
Fingers crossed then hey!
JumpTheF**kUp
03-28-2007, 06:01 AM
Fingers crossed then hey!
I wish I were as funny as you.
Grumma
03-28-2007, 06:04 AM
I think you just wish you had a sense of humour at all . . .
samthebassman
03-28-2007, 06:04 AM
Murali chucks so bad that the ICC changed the rules to suit him.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-28-2007, 06:09 AM
^ Ignorance.
And I do have a sense of humour, it just doesn't respond to retards being stupid.
samthebassman
03-28-2007, 06:13 AM
I guess you just proved me wrong then. HAHA.
That is the most ignorant comment ever!
Grumma
03-28-2007, 06:16 AM
^ Ignorance.
And I do have a sense of humour, it just doesn't respond to retards being stupid.
How was I being stupid?
All I did was say that I was confident Australia would win :confused:
JumpTheF**kUp
03-28-2007, 06:18 AM
If your narrow mind cannot accept that Murali has a medical condition and cannot fully straighten his arm, then there is no point trying to convince you otherwise. The ICC cleared him of chucking numerous times, and even proved that the only people who didn't bend their arms were a Pakistan player and Ramnaresh Sarwan. Yes. Even Glen Mcgrath bends his arm greater than whatever the hell angle it used to be. THAT was why they changed the ruling, not because "MURALI IS A CHUKER LOL!!1".
****ing idiot.
edit: first part @ sam
@ grumma, I was referring to sam's painful attempts to at being funny
samthebassman
03-28-2007, 06:30 AM
You cant deny my humour!
Every bowler bends and straightens their arm, but they do so within the laws of the game (dont feed me rubbish about Glenn McGrath's action you twit). Murali didn't and he was called on a few different occasions for throwing. The ICC then changed the rules, meaning that your arm can be bent to a certain degree, funnily enough it is the same degree as Murali straightens his arm when he bowls.
He will always be remebered for having an impure action.
Untitled
03-28-2007, 06:35 AM
I'm confident the Aussies should win, they are the best team but everyone knows cricket is a funny game.
One thing is for sure though, England have no hope of winning it.
Aussies also said that during the commonwealth bank series....
England are by no means the favourite, and probably wont win it, but they can win it, and you shouldn't write them off, you shouldn't right any of the 6 major teams off in the super 8's, they all have the potential to take it, thats what makes this years tournament very exciting.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-28-2007, 06:38 AM
Everything I said was complete truth, including the McGrath part. You just aren't willing to accept it because you're narrow minded. The ICC changed the rules in light of the discovery that every bowler does it.
He will always be remembered for taking more than 800 test wickets, and being the first bowler ever to do it.
Having a conversation with a monkey would be more stimulating than talking to you.
Grumma
03-28-2007, 06:40 AM
Must be a pretty smart monkey
antihippy
03-28-2007, 06:47 AM
i do agree the part about murali not being a checker though. and i'm from australia.
samthebassman
03-28-2007, 06:48 AM
Everything I said was complete truth, including the McGrath part. You just aren't willing to accept it because you're narrow minded. The ICC changed the rules in light of the discovery that every bowler does it.
He will always be remembered for taking more than 800 test wickets, and being the first bowler ever to do it.
Having a conversation with a monkey would be more stimulating than talking to you.
Who are you kidding?
I have forgotten more than you will ever know about the game of cricket.
You are the biggest Sri Lankan fan on this site and I know more about your team than you do.
HAHA.
samthebassman
03-28-2007, 06:48 AM
i do agree the part about murali not being a checker though. and i'm from australia.
Each to his own, I got no beef with you.
Grumma
03-28-2007, 06:52 AM
Technically speaking I don't think he is but . . .
That's technically
samthebassman
03-28-2007, 07:02 AM
Aussies also said that during the commonwealth bank series....
England are by no means the favourite, and probably wont win it, but they can win it, and you shouldn't write them off, you shouldn't right any of the 6 major teams off in the super 8's, they all have the potential to take it, thats what makes this years tournament very exciting.
I agree it is very open this tournament but I have written off England, if KP & Colly dont get huge scores they never score many more than 250 and their bowling has no fire power, the quicks look average and Freddie looks like a shot duck.
Who have they got next?
I'm not saying england are going to win but
Flintoff isn't a shot duck he's bowling pretty well and will get better as the tournament goes on.
James Anderson, Lewis, Flintoff, Panesar and Mahmood aren't going to bowl sides out every match but on their day they can all be superb.
You say we need Pietersen or Collingwood to get a good score well Pietersen almost always gets a good score and Collingwood can turn it on. Plus Bell, Joyce and Vaughan can all get runs pretty quickly and well but we haven't seen them do it all at the same time but if that happens we could have a big total.
I really hope England destroy Ireland.
For the tournament though i'm going with Australia or South Africa.
What a finish to this Sri Lanka vs South Africa game. Malinga four in a row! South Africa need three runs with one wicket in hand. Can't believe they have choked this bad.
Edit: 2 runs to win, 2 overs yet. Malinga bowling his last over.
Oh and South Africa pull it off, with a four. What a fight back by Sri Lanka, i really wanted them to win.
Untitled
03-28-2007, 04:42 PM
I just looked at the live text thing, Sri Lanker looked dead and buried, but 4 off 4, that's great, im surprised South Africa didn't completely fall threw, one to watch for me tonight :D
I half wanted a early night too.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-28-2007, 06:00 PM
:(
/wrists
samthebassman
03-28-2007, 06:21 PM
What a spell by Malinga, unbelievable fast bowling, a great finish to the game. Sri Lanka's batting proved to be a bit frail, this could be their biggest problem.
antihippy
03-29-2007, 01:05 AM
great effort by malinga. he nearly stole victory for the sri lankans there.
oh, and australia won.
samthebassman
03-29-2007, 01:45 AM
Yeah, Hoggy took another 3, the Aussies are looking good.
It should be a good game tonight, Windies vs Kiwi's.
Apocalyptic Raids
03-29-2007, 03:27 AM
That Malinga guy has a bizarre action, I want to see more of him.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-29-2007, 04:03 AM
^ he's good huh?
Another world record for Sri Lanka :D
I guess Sri Lanka can hold their heads up high. It could've gone either way in the end, and I think that Sri Lanka could have beaten South Africa any other day. So, high hopes for me now. I hope they win all of the rest of their games.
Untitled
03-29-2007, 03:54 PM
FIXTURES
(All times local time)
Group A:
11 September: South Africa v West Indies (Johannesburg, 1800)
13 September: West Indies v Bangladesh (Johannesburg, 1000)
15 September: South Africa v Bangladesh (Cape Town, 1800)
Group B: (All games in Cape Town)
12 September: Australia v Zimbabwe (1800)
13 September: Zimbabwe v England (1400)
14 September: Australia v England (1400)
Group C:
12 September: New Zealand v Kenya (Durban, 1000)
14 September: Sri Lanka v Kenya (Johannesburg, 1000)
15 September: Sri Lanka v New Zealand (Johannesburg, 1400)
Group D: (All matches in Durban)
12 September: Pakistan v Scotland (1400)
13 September: India v Scotland (1800)
14 September: India v Pakistan (1800)
Super Eight phase:
16-20 September (12 matches)
Semi-finals:
22 September (Cape Town at 1400, Durban at 1800)
Final: (Johannesburg)
24 September (time TBC) Ohhhhh, im more excited for that then this current world cup, :D itll be mint, i love 20/20,
samthebassman
03-29-2007, 07:26 PM
Kiwi's completely smached the Windies, it looks like the Windies will bow out of the cup very shortly.
Rrrrrrr
03-30-2007, 03:01 AM
Malinga's hat-trick was awesome, but the high point of this World Cup is still Ireland winnning on St Patrick's Day imo
Since Sri Lanka winning the tournament seems too much to hope for, I really hope the cup goes to South Africa this time around.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-30-2007, 03:14 AM
Are you Sri Lankan Rrrrrr?
I really hope Sri Lanka win tbh. And if they don't, then someone that isn't Australia.
Rrrrrrr
03-30-2007, 03:25 AM
No, Indian :( My mum's Sri Lankan though.
I support the Sri Lankan team because they have Jayasuriya. My favourite team was the West Indies before that, back when they were still great.
And if they don't, then someone that isn't Australia.
Sentiments no doubt echoed by the majority of Test-playing nations.
samthebassman
03-30-2007, 04:02 AM
We still await a team good enough to step up to the bar, until then haha, the Aussies are the best.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-30-2007, 08:50 AM
No, Indian :( My mum's Sri Lankan though.
I support the Sri Lankan team because they have Jayasuriya. My favourite team was the West Indies before that, back when they were still great.
Sentiments no doubt echoed by the majority of Test-playing nations.
I'm Sri Lankan :)
We're practically related hahaha.
The second part of your comment was completely true. Even some Australians I know hate the Aussie cricket team. Not because they're good, but because they're complete pricks.
samthebassman
03-30-2007, 10:01 AM
What makes the Aussie cricket team complete pricks? the fact that nobody can beat them? the fact that they are a superior team to all the others?
Im very curious to know.
Untitled
03-30-2007, 10:34 AM
What makes the Aussie cricket team complete pricks? the fact that nobody can beat them? the fact that they are a superior team to all the others?
Im very curious to know.
The fact there all arrogant tossers. Who cares if you are a good team, well done, no need to be arrogant though, it just makes you look like a prick.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-30-2007, 10:43 AM
What makes the Aussie cricket team complete pricks? the fact that nobody can beat them? the fact that they are a superior team to all the others?
They're the most arrogant bunch of cricketers in the world. Plus, they go completely overboard with sledging.
the fact that nobody can beat them?
In the last year: England. New Zealand. Bangladesh.
But of course, they're nobody.
Untitled
03-30-2007, 10:50 AM
If i remember rightly, Australian cricket was in "crisis" in January/February because they lost so many in a run, doesn't sound like an unbeatable team to me.
Untitled
03-30-2007, 03:51 PM
WTF Vaughan has bowled 9 overs today, and took a wicket, whats all that about, he's a bloody batsman.
Looks like we will win too.
Aotearoa
03-30-2007, 04:17 PM
Well England just bet the Irish by 40 something runs, pretty average display by the english, there not going to make the top 8 with this form.
Untitled
03-30-2007, 04:40 PM
Well England just bet the Irish by 40 something runs, pretty average display by the english, there not going to make the top 8 with this form.
you mean top 4, there already in the top 8, im not expecting them to get threw to the semis anyway, as there are 4 better teams who should do.
Aotearoa
03-30-2007, 04:52 PM
Yeah mate my bad. As for this whole Aussie cricket team discussion, there batting lineup is the hottest lineup in the tournament but there bowling is still questionable. Australia dont have a lethal finisher like Malinga or Bond and Hogg is overated. There bowlers are consistent though, bowling to the fields set for them, restricting runs which puts pressure on the batsmen. For the most part the batsmen facing Aussie get themselves out through there inability to hit the right places.
I am going to let everyone else back Sri Lanka and South Africa to beat Aussie while I quietly watch my native NZ go up the table and into the semis with one of the best lead ups. They will have immence confidence, more than SA, of beating Australia. Historically we have had a rough time competing with Aus but after some huge victories against them in the last couple of years, including the last series whitewash two months ago, NZ would have the most confidence out of the teams to beat Aus when it counts. Its a huge ask to beat Aus in the playoffs but it can be done.
Untitled
03-30-2007, 04:54 PM
NZL seem to be in a good place with there cricket atm, they came off the back of loosing in aus, but going on to kick there arse, and have won all the games with some conviction, i would really like to see them win, more then the other 3 favorites really.
Britney Diva
03-30-2007, 04:57 PM
England were pretty average today. Without a few horrendous overs from the Irish toward the end they wouldn't have broken 250, and but for the fact Ireland are incapable of really attacking a side of reasonable stature they'd surely have lost.
RandyfromPennywise
03-30-2007, 05:07 PM
An Irishman watching cricket? I thought the Irish team was all just Aussie rejects who couldn't get a gig in the New South Wales state side? :p
So we have Bangladesh coming up. I think it might even be worth moving Hussey up to bat at 4, to get him a bit of a hit, he and Symonds could do with a good innings each. Hussey is the man, got a feeling that he'll have a big part to play in the final. (Who says the Aussies are arrogant, of course we'll be in the final!)
Untitled
03-30-2007, 05:24 PM
An Irishman watching cricket? I thought the Irish team was all just Aussie rejects who couldn't get a gig in the New South Wales state side? :p
So we have Bangladesh coming up. I think it might even be worth moving Hussey up to bat at 4, to get him a bit of a hit, he and Symonds could do with a good innings each. Hussey is the man, got a feeling that he'll have a big part to play in the final. (Who says the Aussies are arrogant, of course we'll be in the final!)
Hussey needs a good innings, being one of the worlds better batters, number 3 in the ICC batting rankings, was top but these stats are poor tbh..
Player
M E K Hussey
Matches
4
Inns
4
N/O
0
Runs
20
High Score
9
Average
5.0
Britney Diva
03-30-2007, 05:42 PM
An Irishman watching cricket? I thought the Irish team was all just Aussie rejects who couldn't get a gig in the New South Wales state side? :p
haha, I wish. We'd have beaten England comfortably in that case.
Liberi Fatali
03-30-2007, 05:49 PM
NZL seem to be in a good place with there cricket atm, they came off the back of loosing in aus, but going on to kick there arse, and have won all the games with some conviction, i would really like to see them win, more then the other 3 favorites really.
I can already see some bad signs though, Fulton opening, teams going after Franklin's bowling etc.
There are many good signs too though, Styris is in form, Vettori and Bond are terrific as always and we're winning.
Untitled
03-30-2007, 06:07 PM
I can already see some bad signs though, Fulton opening, teams going after Franklin's bowling etc.
There are many good signs too though, Styris is in form, Vettori and Bond are terrific as always and we're winning.
Yeah, i think they will make the semis, they should do, Windies, England, Banglasesh and Ireland go out of super 8's too.
I think if NZL get Sri Lanker in the semis, they can go onto the final, the other two might be a bit hit or miss though.
Aotearoa
03-30-2007, 06:22 PM
I can already see some bad signs though, Fulton opening, teams going after Franklin's bowling etc.
There are many good signs too though, Styris is in form, Vettori and Bond are terrific as always and we're winning.
At least we have a couple of games to get these guys into some form. Im more worried about Marshall than anything else. Fulton has had some decent scores lately while Marshall has been absolutely hopeless over the last couple of years batting wise. Taylor has to come back, stick Marshall as 12th man permanently as he is a fantastic fielder. The greatest responcibility falls on Oram and Styris to contribute with bat and ball for NZ to get to the finals.
Not because they're good, but because they're complete pricks.
I disagree wholeheartedly with this comment.
The fact there all arrogant tossers. Who cares if you are a good team, well done, no need to be arrogant though, it just makes you look like a prick.
Most of the world cricketing players and countries are arrogant, it is part of the game and integral to some teams pre-game psych out attempts (Australia, England, South Africa, New Zealand have all been arrogant and cocky in the press over the past 6 months). To point out only Australia as being arrogant is very blind sighted. Australia is arrogant because they continue to step up and win the series and competitions that matter, and have done that for the last 10 years.
Plus, they go completely overboard with sledging.
How do you know that for a fact? Have you actually experienced it yourself? Every team sledges, and it is normally in good humour.
In the last year: England. New Zealand. Bangladesh.
I do not remember losing to Bangladesh in the past year.
If i remember rightly, Australian cricket was in "crisis" in January/February because they lost so many in a run, doesn't sound like an unbeatable team to me.
It hardly was in crisis mode, we had just clean swept the Ashes for god's sake. We had a few selection difficulties due to injuries and/or players being out of form.
samthebassman
03-30-2007, 07:49 PM
They're the most arrogant bunch of cricketers in the world. Plus, they go completely overboard with sledging.
In the last year: England. New Zealand. Bangladesh.
But of course, they're nobody.
What is wrong with a bit of sledging, as long as it isnt personal then it is a good thing.
England & NZ took a few ODI's from the Aussies earlier but as usual the Aussies have bounced back into good form (by the way the Bangladesh game was in 2005!).
samthebassman
03-30-2007, 07:52 PM
At least we have a couple of games to get these guys into some form. Im more worried about Marshall than anything else. Fulton has had some decent scores lately while Marshall has been absolutely hopeless over the last couple of years batting wise. Taylor has to come back, stick Marshall as 12th man permanently as he is a fantastic fielder. The greatest responcibility falls on Oram and Styris to contribute with bat and ball for NZ to get to the finals.
Marshall is a weak link in their team but so is Fulton, he is not an opener and with Vincent going home there is a big hole at the top of the order. The bowling relies to heavily on Bond & Vettori to win games, Franklin is inconsistant and with Gillespie's injury they look a little light on, especially when they play the big guns of the tournament who have gun batting line ups.
Sorry for the double post.
If you know that you are double posting, and are sorry about it, why don't you just edit your original post?
samthebassman
03-30-2007, 08:21 PM
I dont know how to quote more than one previous post.
You can right click quote post and open on a new window or tab, and click quote tab on your original page, then copy and paste the quote from the new window into your original, hence having two quotes, if that makes sense.
samthebassman
03-30-2007, 09:00 PM
Aaah, about as clear as mud but I will give it a go.
Aotearoa
03-30-2007, 10:18 PM
[QUOTE=samthebassman;14459354]Marshall is a weak link in their team but so is Fulton, he is not an opener and with Vincent going home there is a big hole at the top of the order. The bowling relies to heavily on Bond & Vettori to win games, Franklin is inconsistant and with Gillespie's injury they look a little light on, especially when they play the big guns of the tournament who have gun batting line ups.
QUOTE]
Our bowling attack seems a little one dimensional but your forgetting Oram who is one of the top allrounders in the world. He got 3 wickets and man of the match against West Indies. Styris also bowls straight and consistent to cause batsmen to throw there wicket away. Having Gillespie back will definitly help.
I believe when NZ are chasing they have a very good chance of winning against anyone, especially Australia. The last year NZ has chased down Australias 300+ scores three times. Anyone who says Australia lost the series 2 months ago cause they were missing Lee,Ponting,Clarke and Symonds are making it sound like NZs play had nothing to do with them winning. That is the best series I have seen NZ play ever. They dominated the Aus bowling attack, which is still exactly the same now. Aussie put big totals against us,our bowling attack was weaker than it was mow, Hayden put on 181 in one of them and NZ chased them down. Its a mental thing when you play Australia, and I think they arent overawed by the confidence of the Aussies. Most teams are and Aussie should be confident- almost cocky but NZ know they can be beaten and how to beat them. The SA game is going to be a crucial game to see if NZ are up to it.
JumpTheF**kUp
03-30-2007, 10:24 PM
What is wrong with a bit of sledging, as long as it isnt personal then it is a good thing.
ffs, have you ever read the news? If you had, you'd realise that Australian sledging is the worst in the sport. And it's almost always either personal or racist.
There is a reason that no-one outside of Australia likes the Australian cricket team, you know.
Grumma
03-30-2007, 10:50 PM
Yeah, cos they keep winning :p
ffs, have you ever read the news? If you had, you'd realise that Australian sledging is the worst in the sport. And it's almost always either personal or racist.
There is a reason that no-one outside of Australia likes the Australian cricket team, you know.
Please provide evidence of these reports. Do you believe everything you hear in the news? Stop making obscene guesses on the Australian cricket team, until you have some hard factual evidence.
TheBigMachine
03-30-2007, 11:16 PM
ffs, have you ever read the news? If you had, you'd realise that Australian sledging is the worst in the sport. And it's almost always either personal or racist.
There is a reason that no-one outside of Australia likes the Australian cricket team, you know.
Bro, seriously.
Who cares? Its not directed at you. So get over it. Sledging is an incredibly effective(when used properly[as Australia do]) tool that adds new bite to the attack. If your team doesn't sledge, that's their problem, not any body elses. And notice how all the accusations regarding sledging comes when Australia is on top and dominating? That seems like a pretty cheap shot to me, even lower than sledging.
Britney Diva
03-30-2007, 11:18 PM
Sledging in English club and village cricket is also common; it ranges from simple questionning of the batsman's skill to doubtful comments about his parentage, his sexuality, or the appearance of his genitals.
hmm
TheBigMachine
03-30-2007, 11:29 PM
That's some sweet definition and pretty much sums it up.
antihippy
03-30-2007, 11:36 PM
i could just imagine.
"hey square balls!"
:lol:
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