Official Cricket Thread [Archive] - Page 12

TheBigMachine

01-05-2007, 08:45 PM

Yeah but we're only convicts remember :rolleyes:

Lucky Tresco wasn't here. He can be a bit of a destroyer when he wants too be. Englands top order isn't all that bad, really. Flintoff, KP, Collingwood and Trescothik could well have made marks on Australia, and the openers too, both sound batters who didn't perform. I feel for Flintoff, he had to burden alot of the responsibility for himself, what being expected to bat extremely well(which he threatened at times) to bowl extremely well(which he did) and to captain extremely well(perhaps not), I simply think that's too much for one player.

But w/e.

badtaste

01-06-2007, 01:51 AM

I'm pretty sure our bowling attack would have somehow destroyed Trescothick's confidence. Plus, their lack of pre-Ashes practice would have lead to some dodgy form with the bat.

On to the ONE DAYERS (and 20-20 entertainment)!!!!

RCVA

01-07-2007, 06:14 AM

I think our bowlers really let us down.

Anyway, Vaughan chosen as captain. Right decision i say but i don't think it will affect the outcome.

Aria.

01-07-2007, 06:49 AM

yes you guys can expect even better asss kickings in the one dayers

Untitled

01-07-2007, 10:37 AM

yes you guys can expect even better asss kickings in the one dayers

I wish someone would give you an arse kicking, typical Aussie arrogant cunt.

Anywho, 12/1 are the odds on England coming home without winning a single game, there pretty short lol, i lol'd when i heard.

I dont feel embarrassed about our piss poor performance, i just think its hilarious realy.

3TwoCan3

01-07-2007, 04:40 PM

yeh the one dayers should be good, im goin 2 watch the one of the ones in melbourne, hopefully england put up more of a fight than they did in the Tests.

badtaste

01-07-2007, 08:15 PM

I wish someone would give you an arse kicking, typical Aussie arrogant cunt.

Anywho, 12/1 are the odds on England coming home without winning a single game, there pretty short lol, i lol'd when i heard.

I dont feel embarrassed about our piss poor performance, i just think its hilarious realy.

What? Seriously, it's hard not being arrogant when you have such a good team, who have won their last 12 test matches and who just demolished (WHITE WASHED!) the no 2 team in the world. I can't even believe that some people tipped the 5-0 result.

But yeah, I think England will put up a better fight now (they have nothing to lose, right?). However, I have heard that England's one day bowling attack isn't too hot. Harmison's retired from one-dayers, Hoggard's not in the squad (I think) so you have Anderson and Mahmood and few other young players, right? Is Monty in the team? But yeah, from what I've heard you've got a fairly young, unexperienced team.

Inkstar

01-08-2007, 08:32 AM

Sorry I'm late, but...

5-0

That is all.

TheBigMachine

01-09-2007, 03:11 AM

^^ lol

20-20 in adelaide tomorrow night i am there, bogans galore :)

badtaste

01-09-2007, 04:18 AM

Nice 20/20 match right now. That is, until England came in to bat.

6/98 right now. 122 to win off 33 balls. Yes, quite interesting.

I am very inclined to bag the hell out of England, but commentators say that opening sides are usually more likely to win, so I'll reserve it until England open and still get slaughtered.

Apocalyptic Raids

01-09-2007, 08:46 AM

Alf™

01-09-2007, 02:50 PM

What a disgraceful effort the England team put up in last night's 20/20. The game isn't rocket science, and they seemed out of their leagues for the whole 3 hours.
Firstly they had a 37 year old debutant keeper. What is that? Why not field a young 20-25 year old, for experience like the Aussies are doing. Will he be in the running for keeper for the next Ashes series? Probably not so don't play him.
Secondly there bowlers don't seem to realise that if you bowl consecutive half volleys and short balls, you will be spanked. Yorkers cannot be played, in these sorts of matches, and England did not use that option at all, it seemed.
And then there was the batting effort. Only one or two batsmen showed any encouraging signs, and England couldn't even get 7 an over, let along the 11-12 that was set, against a Australian bowling attack missing McGrath, Lee, Clarke and Johnson.
I feel sorry for the fans that expected a good show from England, because as has been the case for all of this summer, they have given everyone a sub-par performance.

Untitled

01-09-2007, 03:51 PM

What? Seriously, it's hard not being arrogant when you have such a good team, who have won their last 12 test matches and who just demolished (WHITE WASHED!) the no 2 team in the world. I can't even believe that some people tipped the 5-0 result.

I was going to say "wtf, where not even number two in the world" but, wtf, apparently according to the ICC text rankings, we are, wtf? i thaught we was at least 4th behind India and Pakistan.

ODI we are 8th though, boads well for us in the up coming matches.

Good to see Vaughan is out on the field and is scoring too, we need him.

And seriously guys, WHAT'S WITH THAT KIT, its awful, i wouldn't be seen dead in that, even if i was in the worlds best cricket team.

poorquality

01-09-2007, 03:59 PM

England didn't realise it was 20/20...we were playing stupid shots like reverse swing etc....why bother? The aim is to get runs...and when you have a 220+ Run lead to chase...getting 1 or 2 runs isn't worth it :@

Bah we can't do anything right at the moment

But I'd like to thank Australia for putting on a highly entertaining 20 over innings :)

One good point was Vaughans return - if he batted like that in a test series it would of been good. Until he got out o'course

Untitled

01-09-2007, 04:02 PM

Just watched the highlights from the game, highest 20/20 score by aus apparently. England where just all over the place.

Jimmy went for 64 of 4 overs, Gilchrist just hit him around the place.

Alf™

01-09-2007, 06:54 PM

England didn't realise it was 20/20...we were playing stupid shots like reverse swing etc....why bother? The aim is to get runs...and when you have a 220+ Run lead to chase...getting 1 or 2 runs isn't worth it :@

*reverse sweep

The reverse sweep can be an effective shot for a ball just outside off stump and of a good length, as you can sneak it past the keeper and third man, for runs. But England were playing the shot far too much, and when the ball was far too straight.
I think I remember a certain player hitting the reverse sweep for six. It was an almighty hit, and proves that it can be a good shot to play.

Apocalyptic Raids

01-09-2007, 07:51 PM

I think I remember a certain player hitting the reverse sweep for six. It was an almighty hit, and proves that it can be a good shot to play.
I think it was a South African. Jonty Rhodes springs to mind for some reason.

Alf™

01-09-2007, 08:02 PM

Oh, surprisingly, it was Kevin Pietersen who hit the reverse sweep six AP.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dnShx-eALhY

badtaste

01-09-2007, 08:36 PM

That's still no excuse.

Ha, at least I tried then, right (Unlike England *cough)?

Firstly they had a 37 year old debutant keeper. What is that? Why not field a young 20-25 year old, for experience like the Aussies are doing. Will he be in the running for keeper for the next Ashes series? Probably not so don't play him.

Well, he was pretty handy with the bat and wasn't a bad keeper. He looked more interested or motivated than both Jones and Read combined.

Alf™

01-09-2007, 08:43 PM

Well, he was pretty handy with the bat and wasn't a bad keeper. He looked more interested or motivated than both Jones and Read combined.

31 runs off 22 balls, when the game is already over, and against second, even third rate Australian bowlers, isn't anything to write home about. I agree that his keeping wasn't bad, but at state/county/international/whatever level, you will not see terrible keepers. And I can't really comment on his motivation tbh.

badtaste

01-09-2007, 08:49 PM

31 runs off 22 balls, when the game is already over, and against second, even third rate Australian bowlers, isn't anything to write home about. I agree that his keeping wasn't bad, but at state/county/international/whatever level, you will not see terrible keepers. And I can't really comment on his motivation tbh.

Some runs are better than none. Is the Melbourne 20-20 game sold out? I'll see if my friends want to go. Then again, England are crap and I have a plasma tv.

Alf™

01-09-2007, 09:04 PM

Some runs are not better when you are out of the match and have no chance of winning. Maybe if he got that 30 off 10 balls I would be impressed.

The Melbourne 20/20? When is that? I'm going this Friday, but that's a ODI.

badtaste

01-09-2007, 09:08 PM

Thought I saw a 20-20 match on Thursday in my TV guide. Don't know though, might have been seeing things last night.

BTW, how nice were Hilfenhaus' outswingers last night?

And seriously guys, WHAT'S WITH THAT KIT, its awful, i wouldn't be seen dead in that, even if i was in the worlds best cricket team.

What? I thought they looked alright. I thought England's kits were the ugly ones with your navy blues, and various whites and reds thrown around.

Jim

01-10-2007, 12:58 AM

I actually think we looked terrible =/

Grey on Yellow.

bleh

Apocalyptic Raids

01-10-2007, 01:54 AM

Yeah Australia's colours were pretty ****.

Untitled

01-10-2007, 06:14 AM

Our kit is ace, i love it.

Im gonna have to get me down to some England ODIs and 20/20s this summer, theres only a couple being played at old Trafford though, which sucks, i might go watch the Lancashire matches if all else fails.

TheBigMachine

01-10-2007, 10:26 PM

badtaste

01-11-2007, 12:40 AM

Cricket needs re-invigoration. SA needs to fire. England needs to fire. Windies need to fire. Its so boring when Australia just pummells every single team every single time. The sub-continent is slacking away also.

Meh, that's what everyone was saying when the West Indies were dominating cricket. It goes around in cycles, so Australia won't be so dominating in time. Then again, with our depth of players in Australia, I can't see us not being a competitive team to play against.

Apocalyptic Raids

01-13-2007, 02:13 AM

Given the amount of depth we have we will be competitive for a while time to come, but I can't see the dominance lasting too much longer.

badtaste

01-13-2007, 03:26 AM

OOH! KP is out for the rest of the tour with a cracked rib, after attempting to charge a McGrath bouncer! Just seeing KP grimace in pain was pretty funny (if not sick on my behalf).

Oh, and we won the one-dayer comfortably with eight wickets to spare.

Untitled

01-13-2007, 03:55 AM

Argh, KP is the only person who seems to be able to get some runs these days. Flintoff seemed to be in batting form, but his bowling his first over was atrocious, 11 wides, wtf.

In general i dont think our batting performance was too bad, but feilding was awefull.

RCVA

01-13-2007, 07:02 AM

Could this tour get any worse?

Alf™

01-13-2007, 04:52 PM

Friday night's game was a interesting one. Again, England were not even close to the task, and just seemed out of there league. Tbqh, I can't see that team that they are fielding, winning. The Aussies dd it in such ease, Ponting and Clarkey were just pushing round singles and twos all night, with no pressure at all.

OOH! KP is out for the rest of the tour with a cracked rib, after attempting to charge a McGrath bouncer! Just seeing KP grimace in pain was pretty funny (if not sick on my behalf).

Oh yes, what a blow that was. The crowd knew that was a bad blow, but as soon as we saw the replays, we were all laughing. Serves the guy right I say, for always attempting to dance and walk into the bowlers.

Argh, KP is the only person who seems to be able to get some runs these days. Flintoff seemed to be in batting form, but his bowling his first over was atrocious, 11 wides, wtf.

In general i dont think our batting performance was too bad, but feilding was awefull.

Flintoff's first over was horrid. If England had any chance and hope of winning the match, it was gone, after the first over. 11 wides in one over is something that doesn't happen in junior cricket, let alone international cricket. The Poms had about 16 extras after only 5/10 overs, which is just not good enough.

England just doesn't seem to be able to apply any amount of pressure, in the field, while bowling, or even when batting. It will be interesting to see them go up against New Zealand. I have a feeling the Zealanders have there measure

Can a Englishman, or anyone, please explain to me what you are doing with the English line-up. What the hell is Nixon doing playing, for starters. What was your plan of thinking there? You then have Lewis who is useless in the field and with the ball, Dalrypmple who's causing no troubles with the ball, and even less with the bat and Panesar who is just not suited to this type of game and is struggling to maintain respectable figures.

badtaste

01-14-2007, 02:14 AM

Didn't catch Flintoff's first over, but 11 WIDES!!! Is that a record or what? That is just ridiculous at this level of cricket. Yeah, and Nixon is a confusing one. Very confusing.

As for today, we beat New Zealand quite comfortably again. i think all our bowlers got a wicket. Oh and Bond got a hat trick, which I missed because I was out during the day. To tell you the truth, I didn't see much of the game. Someone fill me in on the performances. I did catch Taylor's fine knock though, which is fairly promising.

Untitled

01-14-2007, 10:18 AM

I have no idea whats going on with the line up, Nixon, is confusing, making his debut at 30odd years old, when we have chris read whos a good keeper.

As for the rest of them, who knows, the sqaud selection has been quite poor all series. I wonder if felcther will blame Vhaugan for these selections like he tried to do to Freddie.

I think the Aus/NZ highlights are on BBC tonight, i shall watch.

Bugger, there on at 12:50 tonight, and i have uni first thing and im kanckerd from being out last night, ill have to watch them on interactive or something.

badtaste

01-14-2007, 05:28 PM

Nixon is closer to 40 than 30. Strange days indeed.

samthebassman

01-14-2007, 10:25 PM

picking nixon is clearly a mistake, I think the selectors need to show some faith in Chris Read

samthebassman

01-14-2007, 10:29 PM

I must say I had a smile on my face when I saw Kevin Pietersen go down on friday.

That will teach him to stay in his crease.

samthebassman

01-14-2007, 10:36 PM

Taylor played very well, seems to be the kind of guy who hits boundaries and not much else. New Zealand didnt play that poorly, just let themselves down in their first 10 and last 7 with ball and their middle order was shown to be second rate.

Bond bowled ok, not a hat trick that I will remember, 2 guys out slogging. White showed why he is a huge chance for the world cup and Ben Hilfenhaus had a great debut. Mitchell Johnson bowled very very well again.

Curious to know what role you lot think Shane Watson will play in the world cup?

Any idea's as to why New Zealand continue to recycle older and out of form players such as Craig McMillan and Nathan Astle? My guess is that they will want to use their experience in the world cup and then probably cast them aside, but these guys just don't perform consistantly well enough to justify a place in a national team.

Will England return home winless?

badtaste

01-15-2007, 07:14 PM

Samthebassman, please keep it to the one post if you can.

Looks like Hodge is getting a call up, since Ponting is getting a rest from the next one-dayer.

Aria.

01-15-2007, 07:23 PM

ok have been away havent ben watchin cricket can someone fill me in in one short post

have england ben competitive at all yet

OGE1

01-15-2007, 09:07 PM

australias reign will never end...never!!! do u no how many of us are playing backyard and beach cricket at the moment!! there are always superstars waiting on the bench

OGE1

01-15-2007, 09:07 PM

bout time hodge got another go!!

Liberi Fatali

01-15-2007, 09:48 PM

Bond bowled ok, not a hat trick that I will remember, 2 guys out slogging. White showed why he is a huge chance for the world cup and Ben Hilfenhaus had a great debut. Mitchell Johnson bowled very very well again.You have to admit though, that slower ball from Bond that got the third wicket was pretty sweet.

Any idea's as to why New Zealand continue to recycle older and out of form players such as Craig McMillan and Nathan Astle? My guess is that they will want to use their experience in the world cup and then probably cast them aside, but these guys just don't perform consistantly well enough to justify a place in a national team.
I wouldn't be so quick to kick Astle from the squad, but certainly McMillan should not be in there.

Apocalyptic Raids

01-15-2007, 09:54 PM

I haven't seen Shane Bond bowl before, I am interested. He seems to be rated pretty highly.
Curious to know what role you lot think Shane Watson will play in the world cup?
I'd rather see Andrew Symonds play.

samthebassman

01-15-2007, 10:57 PM

Shane Bond is an excellent fast bowler and when he is fit New Zealand seem to be a much stronger team!

There is no doubt that Symonds will bat at #5 and be australia's number one ODI allrounder ( he will play a huge part in the world cup), but before injury Shane Watson was making great strides as a genuine all rounder, since his injury Hayden has reclaimed his spot back at the top of the order and has played well.

Watson is better suited to the top order as he has a fine technique (slogging is not his go) so I will be interested to see what happens if he is fully fit come world cup time.

What do you think? Hayden or Watson?

Watson for me!

poorquality

01-16-2007, 01:04 AM

We actually won a game - I'm shocked, amazed + other happy things.

At a price...Vaughan is out again with a hamstring injury...

...I may be wrong, but doesn't winning just mean we've got to play Australia AGAIN?

It's like we like pain and the Aussies are our matrons.

Apocalyptic Raids

01-16-2007, 01:25 AM

What do you think? Hayden or Watson?
Definitey Hayden.

Jim

01-16-2007, 01:29 AM

Hayden ftw.

badtaste

01-16-2007, 03:53 AM

Gee... England make winning look so hard. Despite NZ's low total, England needed the 2nd last ball to win it.

RCVA

01-16-2007, 10:44 AM

Shut up we won for once!!!!

haha now to get thrashed by australia again..

Untitled

01-16-2007, 11:49 AM

Waheyyyyyyyyyy, we won, and we didn't have KP. Nice change, who played for him? Ali Cook i presume, i dunno, i have the scorecard open on my desktop but i cant be bothered looking :eek:

Oh no, it was Joyce, i presumed Cook would get a place, even though i have no idea how good he is at 1 dayers.

In other news, i pulverised NZL on the cricket world cup on EA2007, and Austrailia got beat of Scotland. Lol.

RCVA

01-16-2007, 12:00 PM

I had EA2007 but it got scratched and it doesn't work anymore :(

I'm gonna wait until it's £15 ish and i'll just buy it again.

Untitled

01-16-2007, 12:09 PM

I should imagine the price will go down quite soonish, they usual do with sports games.

RCVA

01-16-2007, 12:23 PM

Yeah and cricket games never sell that much.

I play a lot of football though so when i play cricket i get more interested in it cos you can only play cricket in the summer so through the winter i just play cricket on my PS2

Untitled

01-16-2007, 12:26 PM

Yeah, thats the main reason i bought it, i wanted a game, noone i know will play, and its the middle of winter. Brian Lara (or ricky ponting cricket :-/ for the aussies) will be better, but its not out for ages.

RCVA

01-16-2007, 12:36 PM

Yeah. I'm gonna try to get into a cricket team soon.

I played for my school team last year but i never bothered to join a team outside school.

I'm a pretty good bowler i just suck at batting.

Untitled

01-16-2007, 01:22 PM

Im an average all rounder, i played for Heywood town as kid, we won all our matches, but for school we sucked, i remember getting out for a golden duck, YAY!

badtaste

01-16-2007, 07:10 PM

Shut up we won for once!!!!

haha now to get thrashed by australia again..

Well, the Barmy Army can now celebrate.

How are cricket games these days? The last game I played was a really old one (99, methinks), and the graphics on that were very bad.

samthebassman

01-16-2007, 08:09 PM

I find ricky ponting cricket not to bad but the rest suck!

Apocalyptic Raids

01-16-2007, 09:00 PM

I played Ricky Ponting Cricket a while back and it seemed alright. Cricket games are generally pretty average.

I have fond memories of Shane Warne Cricket '99 though.

samthebassman

01-16-2007, 11:20 PM

Who is gonna win the world cup???

Obviously Australia are the strongest team going around, and they have a settled team with all the bases covered, but I think Pakistan is the danger team, any team with such bowlers as Asif, Shoaib and Gul will threaten with new ball plus you factor in the big 3 with the bat (Inzy, Yousuf & Khan) and they look allright. Another thing the paki's have going for them is their strong middle/lower order. With Afridi, Razzaq, Malik and Kamran Akmal to bat in the last 15 overs tere could be mayhem.

You can count out the poms, kiwi's, India, WI and South Africa (as they seem to choke at every big occasion).

Sri Lanka though may also be a dangerous opposition with the "king chucker" (murali), Vaas and the "slinga" Malinga bowling well and Jayasuriya, Sangakarra carrying on their recent good form. One thing they probably lack is a big hitter in the latter overs, but I guess time will tell.

What do you lot think?

Aria.

01-17-2007, 01:42 AM

australia will win the world cup of course

Untitled

01-17-2007, 03:14 AM

Well, the Barmy Army can now celebrate.

How are cricket games these days? The last game I played was a really old one (99, methinks), and the graphics on that were very bad.

I really like EA cricket, its getting used to the controls, they can be awkward at first, you sometimes have to push about 4 buttons to play a shot, Brian Lara is easier in terms of controls, but EA is more realistic i would say.

RCVA

01-17-2007, 11:21 AM

Well, the Barmy Army can now celebrate.

How are cricket games these days? The last game I played was a really old one (99, methinks), and the graphics on that were very bad.

I've played EA Cricket 2004 which i didn't like at all.
EA Cricket 2005 is just really good but quite hard.
EA 2007 was like 2005 but even better and i found it easy.

I haven't played the brian lara ones but i've heard they're really easy and fun.

badtaste

01-18-2007, 09:42 PM

Cricket on now between Australia and England. I'll give you one guess how its going for England right now.

Finished? Well, it's 4/70 at 17.1 overs. Cameron White just had a beautiful run out. While on his stomach on the ground, simply back tosses it towards the wicket and knocks the stumps over, with the England batters completely befuddled in the middle. Ridiculous.

EDIT: 5/71. BTW, commentators say that this was the first time you're opening pair had a score higher than 50 together. What's his name, Loye (?), is 34 and making his debut. Very nice.

EDIT: Haha, Bell's runout was hilarious. He couldn't decide where to go, was moving up and down and up and down.

Aria.

01-18-2007, 09:46 PM

dam i forgot this was on i was watching judge judy

badtaste

01-18-2007, 09:53 PM

dam i forgot this was on i was watching judge judy

Whoa! Judge Judy is on!

*changes channel

TheBigMachine

01-19-2007, 02:22 AM

Whats this?
A fight?
From england?

Some thing is very wrong in the world...

badtaste

01-19-2007, 02:24 AM

Aussies are 4/71 at 22.4 overs. No worries.

TheBigMachine

01-19-2007, 02:28 AM

Good, no wickets since i last checked.

badtaste

01-19-2007, 03:21 AM

33 off 98 needed for victory. Let's all hope (except for you English fans).

Untitled

01-19-2007, 10:19 AM

Is it a night match? If so, i wish i had sky, i could of actully watched it.

RCVA

01-19-2007, 02:51 PM

What's this? A good england bowling performance? No way.

Hopefully we'll get better as the series progresses. It will be good for the world cup if we play better than the Kiwis.

badtaste

01-19-2007, 06:17 PM

Oh yeah, we won. Hussey got lucky with that slight nick though.

Liberi Fatali

01-21-2007, 02:03 AM

We're playing competitive enough at this stage for me to come in and make a post in here.

Come on kiwis!

badtaste

01-21-2007, 02:14 AM

We're playing competitive enough at this stage for me to come in and make a post in here.

Come on kiwis!

Haha, yes. Aussies are 4/94 chasing 219. It's 22.1 overs at the moment. We had a early collapse. Didn't catch NZ's innings though, think McMillan got 89.

badtaste

01-21-2007, 04:17 AM

Sorry Liberi, back into hiding.

Hussey 65 made the winning runs, Clarke 75 HS, won with 8 balls to spare.

Liberi Fatali

01-21-2007, 04:53 AM

It was a pretty horrible game for us in terms of batting. But what I took out of this match was the bowling of Gillespie and Mason. I've never been a fan of NZ's other often-used pace bowlers Chris Martin and Kyle Mills, so its nice to see someone other than Bond being consistent with their line and length for at least a few overs.

I think if a few of the NZ batsmen get on form, then NZ might have a chance in the worldcup. But at this stage you'd be hard put to bet on anybody other than Australia.

JumpTheF**kUp

01-21-2007, 05:10 AM

I really hate to say it (being a supporter of the Sri Lankan cricket team), but the chances are really high that the Aussies will win the World Cup. I mean srsly, even if their batsmen don't bat, one of their bowlers is sure to pull out a fifty. And I hear people saying all that time that the Aussies are going to end up like the West Indies, who dominated through the 80's but then lost their core set of players all at once, rendering them completely shithouse, but even Australia's new talent seem to be doing really well, with the likes of Hilfenhaus and Johnson bowling well, and Michael Clark keeping it strong up top. That sentence was bloody long :/.

Anyway, I hope the Kiwi's and England put up some (more) sort of fight (and hopefully beat Australia a couple of times), with their last 2 games against Australia being rather good.

Sri Lanka for the World Cup :)

badtaste

01-21-2007, 11:31 PM

I really hate to say it (being a supporter of the Sri Lankan cricket team), but the chances are really high that the Aussies will win the World Cup. I mean srsly, even if their batsmen don't bat, one of their bowlers is sure to pull out a fifty. And I hear people saying all that time that the Aussies are going to end up like the West Indies, who dominated through the 80's but then lost their core set of players all at once, rendering them completely poophouse, but even Australia's new talent seem to be doing really well, with the likes of Hilfenhaus and Johnson bowling well, and Michael Clark keeping it strong up top. That sentence was bloody long :/.

I'm SURE Australia will go on a slight down trend. After all, we've lost two of cricket's greatest bowlers, Warne and McGrath. Methinks another country will soon uncover the next Warne, or McGrath, etc...

RCVA

01-22-2007, 10:27 AM

Adil Rashid is gonna be great for england. Trust me.

badtaste

01-23-2007, 12:46 AM

Adil Rashid is gonna be great for england. Trust me.

Well, it looks like RCVA's word rules supreme. Anyone caught not trusting RCVA, will have to face me.

New Zealand chose to bat, at the end of 50 overs made 210, with Oram makeing 86. Flintoff took four wickets.

Liberi Fatali

01-23-2007, 03:37 AM

Now thats what I call bowling!

badtaste

01-23-2007, 04:57 AM

Now thats what I call bowling!

I'm assuming NZ won. Good for them. Did they get the bonus point?

JumpTheF**kUp

01-23-2007, 05:12 AM

Yeah they did bowl really well, and they did get the bonus point. Oram batted srsly well, while Vettori's bowling was excellent.

RCVA

01-23-2007, 12:17 PM

Well, it looks like RCVA's word rules supreme. Anyone caught not trusting RCVA, will have to face me.

Hahaha. Seriously though i reckon he'll do well for england when he plays.

Embarrassing against NZ today..At least we bowled alright i guess.

Anyone who watched the game tell me what England did wrong batting?

Untitled

01-23-2007, 12:19 PM

Hahaha. Seriously though i reckon he'll do well for england when he plays.

Embarrassing against NZ today..At least we bowled alright i guess.

Anyone who watched the game tell me what England did wrong batting?

They got out, thats usually the main mistake.

Untitled

01-23-2007, 05:04 PM

England didn't seem to do too much wrong, just the kiwis bowled very well and took all opportunities for wickets.

Shane Bond also seems to have a really odd bowling technique, instead of running into the actully bowling bit, he seems to jump, looks funny.

RandyfromPennywise

01-24-2007, 01:29 AM

I went down to the match yesterday for a bit of the England innings. I wore my old (old, as in 1993-94 season, grey with the lightning bolts) New Zealand top I found in the bottom of the bottom drawer as part of my anyone-but-England support. God England should go home now. If we don't bat first on Friday it'll be all over by tea time.

On the Kiwi's, Bond and Vettori are class bowlers.

Can't wait for the game on Friday, I'm going. It's going to be a huge day.

badtaste

01-24-2007, 04:01 AM

They got out, thats usually the main mistake.

ha! Reminds me of the joke I say to my team mates, "Team plan: Don't lose."

I went down to the match yesterday for a bit of the England innings. I wore my old (old, as in 1993-94 season, grey with the lightning bolts) New Zealand top I found in the bottom of the bottom drawer as part of my anyone-but-England support. God England should go home now. If we don't bat first on Friday it'll be all over by tea time.

Where'd you get the top from? You originally a Kiwi or something?

TheBigMachine

01-24-2007, 04:36 AM

I feel sorry for England man. How can a team go through that? What's more, England looks like a team with confidence in negative counting. No optimism. It's just ugly from them. Bar flintoff.

Liberi Fatali

01-24-2007, 04:54 AM

And Anderson.

TheBigMachine

01-24-2007, 04:59 AM

Yeah true, that.

badtaste

01-24-2007, 05:28 AM

Haha, I thought it was depressing when Australia lost the Ashes last, last year. Can't imagine what'd it be like to be English.

TheBigMachine

01-24-2007, 05:37 AM

They've stopped calling themselves english, and taken up the broader tag of brittish.

/speaking from non-existant knowledge.

badtaste

01-24-2007, 05:39 AM

They've stopped calling themselves english, and taken up the broader tag of brittish.

/speaking from non-existant knowledge.

I still get confused about this. England is a country, yes? Britain is...? The UK is the collection of countries under the rule of the Commonwealth?

TheBigMachine

01-24-2007, 05:46 AM

Britain is like, England, Ireland,Wales, Scotland and I think thats all...Im pretty sure.

Untitled

01-24-2007, 06:44 AM

Britain is like, England, Ireland,Wales, Scotland and I think thats all...Im pretty sure.

Britain Is England, Wales and Scotland.
The United Kingdom is England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.
The Republic or Ireland has nothing to do with us.

Fuk knows what its all about anyway.

JumpTheF**kUp

01-24-2007, 08:08 AM

Who do yall think will make the finals? I personally think it'll be New Zealand, for obvious reasons (the major one being that England are losing confidence fast).

TheBigMachine

01-24-2007, 05:46 PM

New Zealand.
If you compare the two teams it's plain too see where the difference lies: confidence.

The kiwi's haven't been completely demoralised just yet, they've come close to beating australia, they just demolished England, so really, if anyone has a chance it's them. Plus, New Zealand has more potential in their side, the players are still fresh for a fight, players like Taylor and Mcmillian, with Flemming always ready to tear into the aussies, and as far as bowling goes, they've got quite the attack with Vettori, Bond and Gillespie.

badtaste

01-25-2007, 03:07 AM

In other cricket news, Canada beat Kenya in their tri-series match (the other country is Scotland). I believe an Aussie ex-pat helped the Canadians to victory.

Looks like NZ will be in the final with Australia. No need to explain.

TheBigMachine

01-25-2007, 03:12 AM

LOL Canada Kenya and Scotland in a tri series, how awesome.

No need to explain because I already did.

ariathe22nd

01-25-2007, 03:12 AM

lmfao egland is never going to recover from this summer lmfao

TheBigMachine

01-25-2007, 03:17 AM

truth

badtaste

01-25-2007, 06:20 AM

http://cricket.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=38687

"This testing of our bowlers’ response to situations when we have lost control (temporarily hopefully) is not happening. In essence, the batting efforts of our opposition are not assisting the development of our bowlers’ One-Day skills and the decision making that accompanies being placed under the microscope of competition."

That's right, c'mon England and NZ, provide us with more practice.

JumpTheF**kUp

01-25-2007, 08:13 PM

So, England won the test and are batting. It'll be all over by about 3.

McGrath is out, replaced by Johnson, and Bracken is out, replaced by Hogg.

Should be interesting to see how England reply to their thrashing.

And this:

"This testing of our bowlers’ response to situations when we have lost control (temporarily hopefully) is not happening. In essence, the batting efforts of our opposition are not assisting the development of our bowlers’ One-Day skills and the decision making that accompanies being placed under the microscope of competition."

Is the most arrogant thing I've ever heard in my life. I really hope Australia lose the World Cup.

Aria.

01-25-2007, 09:51 PM

england is geting owned again this is mad hilarious

this is probaly the worst cricket side ive ever seeen in action

JumpTheF**kUp

01-25-2007, 10:17 PM

So, Nathan Astle has retired. Do you think this will in any way affect the outcome of this series? Or at least the teams that get into the finals?

Liberi Fatali

01-25-2007, 10:18 PM

No.

At worst they'll be replacing an out of form batsman with another out of form batsman.

That said, it is a shock seeing Astle gone after all these years.

Aria.

01-25-2007, 10:36 PM

LMFAO

oh dear is anoyone else watching this oh dear

Aaron

01-25-2007, 10:49 PM

All out for 110. England are horrible.

JumpTheF**kUp

01-26-2007, 12:39 AM

Alf™

01-26-2007, 01:00 AM

Aria.

01-26-2007, 01:24 AM

lmfao waht a pathetic bunch of cricketers

JumpTheF**kUp

01-26-2007, 01:35 AM

Actually it was not Hayden's fault. I think the fault has to be blamed on Gilchrist. Hayden had to get back to his crease, as Flintoff had got a hand on the ball and it was going straight, close to the wickets, and Gilchrist just started running up the pitch. As soon as Hayden saw Gilly running, he called loudly no and sent him back. And as we saw, Gilly didn't make it.

You were watching the game on Nine weren't you?

That's exactly what the commentator's said :p

I still think it was Hayen's fault, he could've made it up the pitch much faster than Gilchrist has.

Alf™

01-26-2007, 01:42 AM

You were watching the game on Nine weren't you?

That's exactly what the commentator's said :p

I still think it was Hayen's fault, he could've made it up the pitch much faster than Gilchrist has.

Yes, I was watching that coverage, and I agree exactly with what they said. I don't think Hayden would have made it up the pitch faster, he was a good 2-3 metres further up the pitch then Hayden, and had no idea what was happening.

Aria.

01-26-2007, 01:42 AM

who cares

RandyfromPennywise

01-26-2007, 11:27 AM

I live in Adelaide. I thought Tuesday was a waste of time when I went down to the Oval. AT LEAST THE FRECKING LIGHTS GOT USED. A "Day-nigter" over by 7pm. WHAT A F*CKING DISGRACE. England are an absolute, unashamed disgrace to world cricket. What I watched today was not international cricket. It was a bunch of high-class professional cricketers showing a bunch of first-grade-at-best cricketers how it's done.

And England just have no bottle. They are a f*cking disgrace. I think I've said enough. I was looking forward to today for about a month. F*ck off back to England you bunch of no-talent no-hoper sh*theads. Take up darts or something. Seriously, a disgrace. Where's the grit and determination? Basically the whole Aussie team has it. Name one of the English who has it... Pietersen maybe. And he's sooking with sore ribs. F*ck off home, get some decent opposition down here and make a summer of it.

Aria.

01-26-2007, 05:26 PM

i agree

iwas planing on going to the australia day game adn am glad i didnt go
i fel sorry for the ppl who went

Untitled

01-26-2007, 05:44 PM

A guy from work went to Austrialia to watch some of the series, i think he went the Perth match maybe, i forget, and another, and the 20-20. Poor sod.

badtaste

01-26-2007, 06:55 PM

Runout was Hayden's fault tbh.

I srsly hate Haydos now. I intensely dislike Ponting.

In fact, there are only a handful of Aussie players I like (Mr. Cricket, Clark(e) and Gilly), the rest are arrogant assholes.

Haha, you know them personally, right?

Pretty crap game yesterday. Feel sorry for the people who attended. Then again, what were they expecting, England to put up a fight? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

JumpTheF**kUp

01-27-2007, 04:27 AM

Haha, you know them personally, right?

Of course I do.

RandyfromPennywise

01-27-2007, 12:57 PM

Just quietly, Michael Hussey should have been Australian of the year.

I love that man. Seriously up there with my favourite players of all time, alongside S. R. Waugh, Tubby Taylor, Allan Border and T. B. A May.

SovietKid

01-27-2007, 04:07 PM

Mark Taylor is quite possibly the worst commentator I have ever heard, he is on par with Bill Lawry, Ian Chappell and Tony Grieg, beneath all the useless, obvious observations he makes, there are hundreds of crappy little in-jokes he and the other commentators think are hilarious.

Alf™

01-27-2007, 04:15 PM

I think he is good. Actually I think all of them, bar Tony Grieg, are excellent. If you don't like them, turn off the sound :).

badtaste

01-31-2007, 05:12 AM

Welcome back everybody.

Recap: Australia beat New Zealand. Can't remember the scores, but New Zealand provided good competition.

Last night, New Zealand pooped on England. No surprise there.

Mark Taylor is quite possibly the worst commentator I have ever heard, he is on par with Bill Lawry, Ian Chappell and Tony Grieg, beneath all the useless, obvious observations he makes, there are hundreds of crappy little in-jokes he and the other commentators think are hilarious.

I think they're all really good. Very funny as well. I don't know how old you are, but maybe their humour doesn't appeal to your generation (it certainly appeals to me).

RandyfromPennywise

01-31-2007, 07:51 AM

Yeah I like the Nine commentary team in general. I think The 12th Man CDs help out. ABC Radio commentary is equally as good, if not better.

JumpTheF**kUp

01-31-2007, 04:09 PM

Alf™

02-01-2007, 03:54 AM

I completely disagree. Tony Greig is such an idiot. His anti-Australia attitude really gets in the way of accurate commentating.

badtaste

02-01-2007, 04:09 AM

Ian Healy is the worst commentator ever.

If he maybe removed Australia's dick from his mouth, he might have enough time to provide good commentary.

Tony Greig is easily the best, or at least the most impartial.

Let's keep it clean in this thread. This place is a positive environment (except for England's performance, of course).

And yeh, disagree, Tony Greig's only impartial because England's not performing. I still think Greig has his place in the commentary box though, it's nice to get some variety.

TheBigMachine

02-01-2007, 04:47 AM

Runout was Hayden's fault tbh.

I srsly hate Haydos now. I intensely dislike Ponting.

In fact, there are only a handful of Aussie players I like (Mr. Cricket, Clark(e) and Gilly), the rest are arrogant assholes.

Lol cause Hayden went on to make 117 and Gilchrist would've just got himself caught out. I like Gilchrist as a keeper, but as a batsmen, Im just not that impressed. Big hitting is all well and good, but like seriously, I just don't like him. Hussy and Clarke are good though. Hayden is a legend. Ponting is a legend. It's all good.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-01-2007, 04:55 AM

Wrong game mate :)

Sorry for the brashness of my other comment. I just really really hate Healz. It has come to the point where I mute the cricket and listen to music while watching it.

TheBigMachine

02-01-2007, 05:00 AM

Ian Healy, yeah he's a toss. Best commentary is Tony Grieg, Micheal Slater and then the rest are pretty shoddy, either Ian Healy or Mark Taylor for prefference. I cant stand Lawry.

Aria.

02-01-2007, 05:10 AM

only commentator i realy cant stand isbill lawry adn i can imagine it would be 100x worse if i wasnt australian

TheBigMachine

02-01-2007, 05:16 AM

^^ This is true.
Mark Nicholas is good too, but he's English. Poor bloke.

Untitled

02-01-2007, 05:24 AM

Are you all insane?

Clearly Richie Benaud is the best commentator.

I like Micheal Slater too, and Geoffrey Boycott, he just tells it how it is, with his yorkshire twang.

TheBigMachine

02-01-2007, 05:37 AM

Meh. Richie Beanaud is over rated. Over hyped. He's good on 12th man.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-01-2007, 06:24 AM

Richie Benaud is boring though.

Kerry O'Keefe is not only the best commentator, he's also a champ.

Aria.

02-01-2007, 06:28 AM

hell yes big 123 on kerry o keefe i love that guy

JumpTheF**kUp

02-01-2007, 07:03 AM

So guys, I have to edit my fantasy cricket team before the finals, and I'm allowed a max of 6 from each team (11 people in total). Who should I get?

Obviously Aus/NZ players, England have about as much chance of getting into the finals as of me getting laid this weekend.

RCVA

02-01-2007, 12:22 PM

Jayasuria
Gilchrist
Ponting
Tendulkar
Pietersen
Hussey
Boucher
Pollock
Vettori
Lee
Bond

That's just off the top of my head but it looks pretty good to me.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-01-2007, 04:01 PM

Only for the Mastercard Dream Team.

You know, for the finals round between Aus and NZ.

badtaste

02-01-2007, 05:52 PM

Isn't Bill Lawry the one who goes: ""Got him! It's all happening!" and sometimes "Got him! GONE!". I LOVE when he does that.

Have a look here
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21056727-11088,00.html

Stackpole's opinions on the commentators.

TheBigMachine

02-02-2007, 02:26 AM

El Oh El yeah that's Bill Lawry.
"Oh YES GOT HIM, GONE! BACK TO THE PAVILION! IT'S ALL HAPPENING HERE AT THE MCG!"

JumpTheF**kUp

02-02-2007, 02:34 AM

In actual cricket news, England may win their second game of the tour. They're actually pretty well placed, although Australia do have Hussey, who has a tendency to not get out, ever.

ariathe20th

02-02-2007, 02:35 AM

england is theonly team in the world who could lose from here

TheBigMachine

02-02-2007, 02:42 AM

:o
Someone inform me whats going on I have no tv.
Wait, no. Baggygreen.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-02-2007, 03:08 AM

england is theonly team in the world who could lose from here

Thats the single funniest thing I've ever read on these forums.

Rep ++

eug008

02-02-2007, 03:09 AM

**** this could be one heck of a game, but luckily England somehow usually **** up all of their chances to win.

TBM:
http://www.cricket.com.au/

TheBigMachine

02-02-2007, 03:37 AM

Thanks man.

Oh, got him gone, Hussey out chopped it back onto his stumps and Symonds retired hurt. Terrible.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-02-2007, 03:43 AM

Oh my. This is terribly interesting.

I really hope England win, just so I can mock one of my arrogant Australia supporting 'friends'.

Alf™

02-02-2007, 03:47 AM

Thats the single funniest thing I've ever read on these forums.

Rep ++

Pity your rep is worth like.. nothing, ey?

eug008

02-02-2007, 03:48 AM

oh ****, looks like we lose :(

poorquality

02-02-2007, 03:50 AM

England are actually putting in a respectable performance :| What's going on

JumpTheF**kUp

02-02-2007, 03:50 AM

Pity your rep is worth like.. nothing, ey?

Eh.

It's still rep. Plus, it's not like it really mean anything.

Alf™

02-02-2007, 03:52 AM

So why would you give it then, if it meant nothing?

It's about time England put up a respectable performance tbh.

poorquality

02-02-2007, 03:57 AM

Flintoff was out for 3....that's still shockingly poor for him individually though, luckily Joyce stepped up from the start really.

Pieterson is injured isn't he?

TheBigMachine

02-02-2007, 04:01 AM

Cracked ribs.

poorquality

02-02-2007, 04:02 AM

Ouch...Checked the scorecard, Symonds retired injured? That's a massive bonus for us, once he gets going he's impossible to stop normally

Alf™

02-02-2007, 04:05 AM

Seems Symonds strained or did something to his bicep, when he didn't time a boundary, earlier on. He continued, but after a while the pain was too much, and he called out the physio or the doctor and he ordered him off the ground.

poorquality

02-02-2007, 04:35 AM

Woop we actually won :D This must be like one of those "once in a lifetime" moments :P

JumpTheF**kUp

02-02-2007, 04:38 AM

Holy Jesus England won a game

Fire Away

02-02-2007, 04:45 AM

No one thinks the game might have been thrown?

TheBigMachine

02-02-2007, 05:08 AM

Yeah definatley rigged.
Nah, jks, gg England.

ariathe20th

02-02-2007, 05:20 AM

taht was obvously fixed

JumpTheF**kUp

02-02-2007, 05:21 AM

Yeah I'm sure it was.

Some lucky bugger who put a few dollars on England would be a happy man right now. The odds must have been huge.

edit: that first part was said sarcastically

Untitled

02-02-2007, 05:17 PM

:) < my face, not been like that since, well when we beat NZL actully.

Hopefully we can carry momentum into Sundays match, or is it Tuesday? whatever, and then try and beat NZL then we will be in the final, which would be nice.

EDIT - I think Aus have to beat NZL too for us to be in the final thinking about it, we are tied on points but they have a match in hand.

Zebba

02-02-2007, 05:39 PM

It's just a total shame that England got there *** whiped in the ashes isnt it? haha, winning one, one day match is nothing

Untitled

02-02-2007, 05:42 PM

Funny, no aussies have said that when they have one the one dayers have they?

Nope.

Its usually the same arrogant Austrialian gloating that you all have the reputation for.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-02-2007, 06:51 PM

Its usually the same arrogant Austrialian gloating that you all have the reputation for.

I love you.

badtaste

02-02-2007, 07:45 PM

Funny, no aussies have said that when they have one the one dayers have they?

Nope.

Its usually the same arrogant Austrialian gloating that you all have the reputation for.

Hahaha.

Why would we need to think that though? This is your first win against the Australian team in all forms of the game, since the start of the tour. Now that I think about it, the way England have been collapsing, those wins were pretty weak (especially for the crowds who paid to see 100 overs).

Yeh, England winning one match is nothing, especially when Australia are already in the finals of this series.

Good on England for FINALLY putting up a fight, and we hope your form continues until the end of the tour.

TheBigMachine

02-02-2007, 08:42 PM

Prefferably into the world cup also.

ariathe20th

02-02-2007, 09:23 PM

lmfao @ that pommy fag on the previous page

TheBigMachine

02-03-2007, 03:12 AM

lol @ all the pom hating in here

badtaste

02-03-2007, 04:23 AM

lol @ all the pom hating in here

No pom hating from me. Though, it's annoying when I'm accused of being arrogant (you don't have to point it out! haha).

TheBigMachine

02-03-2007, 04:32 AM

We have every right of being arrogant, like pom's dont think they're tops at soccer and be arrogant towards us about it.

RCVA

02-03-2007, 05:14 AM

badtaste

02-03-2007, 05:19 AM

Best soccer league in the world though :) haha i'm just kidding.

I pissed of my mate so much when i said Australia and the US would beat us at soccer at the moment.

Anyway back to the cricket, Plunkett bowled on the stumps???

Good win, well played joyce.

We won't keep it up though.

i think the team needs to get out of australia as quick as they can, get the world cup out of the way and then thrash the west indies in tests to get some confidence back.

I thought the EPL was the best league in the world...? (Yes seriously) Nah, I think now that Beckham is gone, England's football team should be on the rise again. you just need your big names to stop choking a bit (Lamps, Gerrard, Rooney, etc...)

Now that I've calmed down slightly, it was a good win to England. Bowled well, batted well (mainly Joyce, good on him). Read in the paper that Loye took a swipe at some Aussie fans. Supposedly, after coming off to get a look at McGrath's nice sweet chin music ball, some fan said "Loye, you don't bat with your chin." Haha, funny.

TheBigMachine

02-03-2007, 05:36 AM

LOL that is so Australian.

Im so pumped for the World Cup. Cannae wait.

The Jolly Pakistani

02-03-2007, 06:49 PM

Once I moved to Canada, I lost track of cricket :(.

Alf™

02-03-2007, 09:42 PM

New Zealand are batting in Melbourne, and Tait is bowling at lightning speeds. Should be a good game.

badtaste

02-03-2007, 09:43 PM

Once I moved to Canada, I lost track of cricket :(.

You should join the Canadian cricket team maybe.

Won't be watching today's game, going to see Victory take on Adelaide at Telstra Dome.

Alf™

02-03-2007, 09:50 PM

Why aren't you watching it right now then?

badtaste

02-03-2007, 10:02 PM

Why aren't you watching it right now then?

Currently in the city at cafe. Have to go buy tickets early in half an hour.

ariathe20th

02-03-2007, 10:42 PM

gota say lou vincents in some prety good form

samthebassman

02-04-2007, 01:14 AM

This will be a good chase for the aussies, we will see how their form really is!

The Jolly Pakistani

02-04-2007, 01:21 AM

You should join the Canadian cricket team maybe.

Won't be watching today's game, going to see Victory take on Adelaide at Telstra Dome.

hahaha the Canadian cricket team is mostly brown and west indian immigrants :p.

Besides, for quite a while, cricket has been Australia and South Africa beating the living **** out of everyone

JumpTheF**kUp

02-04-2007, 01:43 AM

Sri Lanka for World Cup '07 tbqh.

TheBigMachine

02-04-2007, 01:49 AM

el oh el not likely, my money is going to an upset from NZ or windies.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-04-2007, 02:39 AM

I'm pretty sure Sri Lanka will at least make the semi's but not sure how much further.

TheBigMachine

02-04-2007, 02:58 AM

They'll make the semi's on the basis of Mutiah, but alot of the Australian team can handle him, and I think alot of the other sub-continent teams have chances against them.

badtaste

02-04-2007, 05:51 AM

So what happened today?

I was at the A-League finals game between Melbourne and Adelaide. Melbourne won 2-1, Robinson scored in the 93rd minute! Wow!

JumpTheF**kUp

02-04-2007, 06:15 AM

Australia chased down 291, Hodge fell just short of his maiden ODI hundred (99*) and hit the winning runs as well. They made it look easy.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-04-2007, 06:51 AM

badtaste

02-04-2007, 06:44 PM

Poor Hodge for missing out on his first international one day century. Looks like England and NZ will have to fight it out for the finals berth.

Poor Symonds as well. Read in the paper that the entire biceps muscle was torn away from the shoulder. Sounds nasty - I wonder if he'll be taken to the Windies anyway.

In other cricket news, South Africa made 6 / 392 against Pakistan, with Boucher notching up an insane 78 (38), and one over going for 28 runs.

Do you think that the standard for an innings will be up in the 350's in a few more years? With the Wanderers match (you know the one) and recent run fests, do you reckon cricket will eventually just turn into a slogathon?

Hard to say. It's really up and down, but the potential to make huge scores (especially in the last ten overs) is huge.

The Jolly Pakistani

02-05-2007, 01:21 AM

In other cricket news, South Africa made 6 / 392 against Pakistan, with Boucher notching up an insane 78 (38), and one over going for 28 runs.

Do you think that the standard for an innings will be up in the 350's in a few more years? With the Wanderers match (you know the one) and recent run fests, do you reckon cricket will eventually just turn into a slogathon?

*weeps at the long gone golden years of pakistani cricket*:(

I do think cricket will turn into a batsman's game. After all, if one looks at scores of the old 60 over games they used to have, the scores were low by today's 50 over standards. Also, the introduction of players geared more especially towards ODI's is helping along this change. Batsman like Shahid Afridi who like to fling their bat around (most of the time) and bowlers like Shoaib Akhtar who can't reasonably be expected to bowl at their absolute potential for more than ten overs are good examples.

Besides, attention spans are shortening and lots of runs are exciting! 20/20 cricket is turning into a hit...

TheBigMachine

02-05-2007, 01:27 AM

badtaste

02-05-2007, 01:32 AM

20/20 cricket is bad for cricket. It's bad for kids watching who think "i want to play like that" then go out into club games with the years of disciplined playing those players have had, get out and lose interest. It's natural selection. I think there needs to be more emphasis on test cricket, personally.

All depends on how you treat it. If everyone doesn't take it too seriously, then all will be good. Probably is bad for kids watchings, but the future cricketers will still be doing it the hard way through their club cricket.

TheBigMachine

02-05-2007, 01:35 AM

That's true, but there will be less future cricketers.

badtaste

02-05-2007, 01:37 AM

That's true, but there will be less future cricketers.

Wha? Because of 20/20?

Haha, who knows, we may end up with a whole team full of Gilchrist and Symonds types in the future (a good and bad thing).

The Jolly Pakistani

02-05-2007, 01:41 AM

20/20 cricket is bad for cricket. It's bad for kids watching who think "i want to play like that" then go out into club games with the years of disciplined playing those players have had, get out and lose interest. It's natural selection. I think there needs to be more emphasis on test cricket, personally.

I agree for the most part, it's just that test cricket isn't very user friendly in today's world of instant gratification.

TheBigMachine

02-05-2007, 01:44 AM

Very true. It doesnt help that cricket's become so profitable either.

badtaste

02-05-2007, 01:45 AM

Oh yeah, plus if we're thinking of spreading the sport to different countries, test cricket isn't very pretty.

TheBigMachine

02-05-2007, 01:50 AM

Thats a very good point you make. But my opinion still stands.

badtaste

02-05-2007, 01:51 AM

Thats a very good point you make. But my opinion still stands.

Yeh, you didn't answer my question (above). So, you're saying 20/20 will result in less future cricketers or what?

TheBigMachine

02-05-2007, 01:56 AM

badtaste

02-05-2007, 02:01 AM

I should've phrased that better. I think it's a very possible outcome of 20/20 cricket, but not a definite one. I think if 20/20 cricket becomes a big thing, mainstreamed like ODI and test cricket, that eventually, the general standard of cricket players is going to crease, along with the general number of cricket players. Because although a bit of hitting is fun, I think it's not a sustainable pathway for cricket. Know what I mean now?

Hmm... I guess it depends on the future of 20/20 cricket at the lower levels within a country. Obviously, the only pathway to higher level cricket is at the bottom, which is your local cricket team. I doubt you're going to be a huge hitter like Symonds or Gilly, unless you learn the fundamentals or are born a freak of nature.

But yeah, as I said, it all depends on how 20/20 cricket is handled. If you only use it as a marketing fun type of game, then test cricket and the one dayers should be the fundamental forms. If 20/20 is marketed as the peak form of the game, then the problems you're describing could result.

TheBigMachine

02-05-2007, 02:06 AM

And that's preciscley what Im talking about - 20/20 is profitable stuff, and there's no reason why cricket marketers might not go ahead and market it as the ultimate form of cricket.

badtaste

02-05-2007, 02:08 AM

As long as there are purists at the heads of Cricket Australia, and the similar organisations around the cricketing world, it should be alright.

BTW, Allan Border medal tonight. Looks like the punters are tipping Ponting for a two-peat. No one else really stands out (well, that and my memory is really shocking).

Alf™

02-05-2007, 02:16 AM

20/20 cricket is not affecting junior cricket at all, imho. I have not seen any difference in the quality of players, or the outset of players, in the last few years. Junior cricketers normally play 25 over matches regularly, but 25 overs is a lot at that age, and players do not go out with the sole purpose of to hit the ball out of the park.

Apocalyptic Raids

02-05-2007, 03:56 AM

20/20 cricket is bad for cricket. It's bad for kids watching who think "i want to play like that"
I don't see the problem. Most kids love to try slog everything anyway, I don't think 20/20 has changed that. Any half decent coach will know to teach proper technique first.

badtaste

02-05-2007, 04:06 AM

Crap, forgot Allan Border Medal was on tonight. Been watching south park and now drawn together.

Edit: wait a sec, it's not on yet.

TheBigMachine

02-05-2007, 04:10 AM

What time does it start?

badtaste

02-05-2007, 04:16 AM

I'm assuming after this "1 vs 100 crap" at 9:30.

Edit: Wait, we're in different states, but yeh, should be at 9:30 maybe.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-05-2007, 06:09 AM

I play under 17's cricket, and I've gotta say, 20/20 has done little to nothing to change the way we play. Maybe it only affects the younger ones, but I seriously doubt it.

Crap, forgot Allan Border Medal was on tonight. Been watching south park and now drawn together.

Why even bother. Punter will win hands down.

badtaste

02-05-2007, 06:37 AM

Why even bother. Punter will win hands down.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read. Think about it. If you don't know why, get back to me.

Apocalyptic Raids

02-05-2007, 06:45 AM

Well he's looking pretty good so far.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-05-2007, 06:50 AM

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read. Think about it. If you don't know why, get back to me.

I live in WA, so...I'm guessing it's already finished in Melbourne? And you think I'm an idiot for posting my guess, after the result has been announced?

If I'm right, I am a God.

Apocalyptic Raids

02-05-2007, 07:41 AM

Ponting won.

Fire Away

02-05-2007, 08:20 AM

and by a 49 vote margin.

the Brett Lee thing was pretty funny

badtaste

02-05-2007, 05:34 PM

I live in WA, so...I'm guessing it's already finished in Melbourne? And you think I'm an idiot for posting my guess, after the result has been announced?

If I'm right, I am a God.

Nah, I was commenting about the "Why even bother?" part. Heck, you're questioning my intelligence when you write something like that. It's like "You're an idiot if you watch the coverage, because we all know Ricky Ponting will win".

Sure, he did win, but I didn't watch it just for the AB medal, I watched it for all the other awards as well.

So because I bothered to watch it (silly me, of course), I'll tell you about the other awards:
- West Australian opener Chris Rogers won the State Player of the Year award.
- Tasmanian quick Ben Hilfenhaus was named Bradman Young Cricketer of the Year
- Lisa Sthalekar won the Women's International Player of the Year.
- Former greats Richie Benaud and Charles Macartney were inducted into the Australian Cricket Hall of Fame (Was funny to see Benaud's early commercials)

RCVA

02-06-2007, 11:53 AM

England win 2 ODI's in a row??? What's happening?

first two overs bowled by england were terrible..i didn't think we'd win.

Well played by collingwood and strauss though! good to see them get some runs again

Untitled

02-06-2007, 12:03 PM

In the final :)

Quite unexpected i will say. Shame im going to miss the highlights tonight :(

RCVA

02-06-2007, 01:26 PM

What time are the highlights and what channel?

same as test highlights?

Untitled

02-06-2007, 06:28 PM

What time are the highlights and what channel?

same as test highlights?

/wellllll late sorry i went to watch brand new.

yeah, the England highlights have generally been on BBC2 around 11:20 or whenever newsnight finishes, but if you have interactive, push the red button and you can watch them on there from 10pm. They loop it too, about 3 times its on i think.

They have been on all the series, they show the AusVNZL match too, that's later on, about 12:30ish though. BBC are showing all the World Cup matchs too, which is good because its better then Channel5 when they had it in summer.

badtaste

02-06-2007, 08:52 PM

England win 2 ODI's in a row??? What's happening?

Mmm... pretty good win. Methinks Stephen Fleming lost it for NZ with that wild swing. Looking forward to this Friday's first final match. Freshly shaven Flintoff looks funny.

Some news
- "Australia have been given the green light to name injured batsman Andrew Symonds in their squad for the World Cup after the International Cricket Council (ICC) ruled he could be replaced if he fails to recover in time from a bicep injury." Awesome, is all I can say.

- Tait has been axed from this Friday's final squad. Stuart Clarke is also out, but Shane Watson is in, which I find surprising since he hasn't been playing alot due to injuries.

- "Cricket Australia has confirmed Nielsen, the former South Australian wicketkeeper, would take over from Buchanan as national coach after next month's World Cup." Don't know much about this guy.

eug008

02-07-2007, 02:09 AM

Hell yeah for Symonds.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-07-2007, 02:12 AM

Nah, I was commenting about the "Why even bother?" part. Heck, you're questioning my intelligence when you write something like that. It's like "You're an idiot if you watch the coverage, because we all know Ricky Ponting will win"

That's not the way I meant it. I guess I've just become disillusioned with Australian Cricket and don't find it interesting at all anymore.

- "Australia have been given the green light to name injured batsman Andrew Symonds in their squad for the World Cup after the International Cricket Council (ICC) ruled he could be replaced if he fails to recover in time from a bicep injury."

Ugh

- Tait has been axed from this Friday's final squad. Stuart Clarke is also out, but Shane Watson is in, which I find surprising since he hasn't been playing alot due to injuries.

Oh noes, I like Stuart Clark :(

- "Cricket Australia has confirmed Nielsen, the former South Australian wicketkeeper, would take over from Buchanan as national coach after next month's World Cup." Don't know much about this guy.

I doubt this will change anything, Australia will still win everything all the time.

badtaste

02-08-2007, 05:19 AM

In other news, former umpire Darrell Hair is taking it to the man! I believe he's claiming racial discrimination against the ICC and the Pakistani Cricket Board. Haha, should be funny.

TheBigMachine

02-08-2007, 05:50 AM

Yeah man this will be intense. There should be a clas.rock cd about this.

Apocalyptic Raids

02-08-2007, 07:32 AM

I hope Symonds plays a part in the World Cup. I like him so much more than Watson.

eug008

02-09-2007, 01:03 AM

Australia all out for 252. Pretty poor call against Hodge imo.

TheBigMachine

02-09-2007, 02:51 AM

9 wickets in such short space oh em gee, lame. Im such an anti-watson activist these days. I cant stand him.

ariathe20th

02-09-2007, 03:10 AM

i never liked watson

TheBigMachine

02-09-2007, 05:31 AM

Me neither.

Gay.
shitshitshitshit

that sucks.

JumpTheF**kUp

02-09-2007, 05:38 AM

I'd just like to say lol.

You English ppl must be so proud.

To be honest, I'm rather happy myself. Maybe this finals series will be interesting (for once). Who would've thought that England would be the team to challenge Australia? In fact, had you said that they would, I would've laughed in your face. But gg England srsly, well done.

ariathe20th

02-09-2007, 06:07 AM

obivously a lot of match fixig going on

badtaste

02-09-2007, 07:09 AM

Watson's the insider. Get's belted for 8 in two balls at the end.

Credit where credit is due. When England play well, praise is given. When they play like ****, then **** is given.

RCVA

02-09-2007, 11:37 AM

Credit where credit is due. When England play well, praise is given. When they play like ****, then **** is given.

Fair enough.

Good bowling from flintoff, great perfomance from Collingwood.

I have to say though at the start of the innings i was sure we'd lose it. Not many people would count on england winning after losing 3 early wickets. Usually we start **** and carry on ****.

Untitled

02-09-2007, 11:39 AM

I kept the faith with England and you all lol'd MU HAHAH

Not seen the match though, happy we won, i think aus will fight harder in the next 2 matches though im sure you wont wanna loose the series.

1 match to win though, in our favour atm, it'll be a very slight bit of compensation for the ashes, not much though.

I was surprised by the win actully, i looked on my phone and we needed 40 runs in in 5 overs or something, i thought it might of been tight.