I need a password.

[Syprus]

I know I should be making this thread in the site forum, but I can't get in it and this is the only one I CAN get in to. Why do I need a password to get into the other forums? Somebody please help me!

[Bartender]

It means the forums are locked down. There could be a number of reasons why. Just wait it out.

[Double Bass Jim]

Temp lock down.. It'll be over soon.

[Brain Toad]

Apparently the mods are cleaning the forums, just sit back and relax.

[Bartender]

DBJ - why?

[bassaholica2004]

Sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie... the forums are all locked down, and we are forced to go to either the Other Music or CD Review forum, where evil may lie.

[AMAC]

Because AmysVerdict has gone insane.

What a moocher.

[Double Bass Jim]

Preventing an attack.

[owa for life]

yeah im really bored now

[Syprus]

Temp lock down.. It'll be over soon.
I need to get in the Pit NOW! I'm gonna have to get off the net in a few. I just wanna know if i won the avatar poll! Why would you lock it down and leave THIS one open?

[Syprus]

Because AmysVerdict has gone insane.

What a moocher.
So, what did I miss? What did Amys do this time?

[owa for life]

I need to get in the Pit NOW! I'm gonna have to get off the net in a few. I just wanna know if i won the avatar poll! Why would you lock it down and leave THIS one open?

how do you already have 200 replies when you just joined this month?!?

[Dark Hero]

I feel safe here...

[A Dark Wisdom]

Some people post too **** much...that's how.

[AMAC]

So, what did I miss? What did Amys do this time?

Threatened a massive spam attack.

Long story.

[Double Bass Jim]

We Cannot close this one.

[Syprus]

how do you already have 200 replies when you just joined this month?!?
I post a lot. I really get into the conversations. This is a cool forum, until now.

[Justin]

I need to get in the Pit NOW! I'm gonna have to get off the net in a few. I just wanna know if i won the avatar poll! Why would you lock it down and leave THIS one open?

There are reasons.

[Syprus]

Threatened a massive spam attack.

Long story.
I like long stories. Besides, it's not like we have anything else to do.

[The JoZ]

You guys really need to whip out the IP bans a little more often...

Or, you can report him to his ISP...

This closing the forums because you're afraid of a massive spam attack is a little absurd, don't you think?

Of course, if MX had more mods, this wouldn't be a problem...:rolleyes:

No offense on you Jim, I know you're just doing your job :thumb:

[Syprus]

There are reasons.
Hey, finally changed the avatar!

[RavenousMetalist87]

Threatened a massive spam attack.

Long story.

Don't people have anything else to do in their spare time instead of spamming these boards we have come to post on?

[Bartender]

Syprus - the thread will still be there when the forums are unlocked.

DBJ - why can't this one be locked?

I knew about Amys' threat, but I figured it wouldn't actually come to anything. By all accounts, he was having trouble figuring out proxies.

[owa for life]

does anyone know how long these usually take?

[JimGuitar]

Yeah, I was really confused. I thought the forums had actually become password protected...and if that were the case I wouldn't know where to get one.

[Syprus]

We Cannot close this one.
You must be a mod. Cool!

[MxShredder]

Cd reviews has 65 viewing..wooOOoo..:amaze:

[Bartender]

You must be a mod. Cool!

Tip: Mods' user names are in italics.

[GongTaxi]

I'm I the only one who thought that this was a massive conspirary against me

[AMAC]

Don't people have anything else to do in their spare time instead of spamming these boards we have come to post on?

Some people are douchebags with no life.

e.g. - AmysVerdict

[Dark Hero]

i've never seen 60 or more people in the CD Review forum.

[owa for life]

is this amy person banned?

[Syprus]

Hey, I was wonderin', how many posts do you have to have to not be a n00b? Noone thinks I'm a jackass yet, so I'm not that kinda n00b. I heard around 500, but 100 would be nice.

[owa for life]

as long as you dont piss anyone off and dont talk in that n00b 1337 s--t, then you'll probably be fine

[Double Bass Jim]

Everyone relax, It's be open again soon.. You guys don't want another crappy load of Nasty Pics all over the website do you? Just wait it out and everything will be fine.

[Dark Hero]

ok i'm gonna start a mini-thread, here it is, everyone name same of the tabs you have submitted to mx tabs if you are a member.

[GongTaxi]

Hey, I was wonderin', how many posts do you have to have to not be a n00b? Noone thinks I'm a jackass yet, so I'm not that kinda n00b. I heard around 500, but 100 would be nice.

someone else asked that in the pit awhile ago and they got flamed :thumb:

[owa for life]

alright 100 posts!!! :chug:

[The JoZ]

Everyone relax, It's be open again soon.. You guys don't want another crappy load of Nasty Pics all over the website do you? Just wait it out and everything will be fine.

I'm not saying we do, but like I said before, more help = less crap like this happening

If you have people on to torch the threads the minute they go up...the spammer will eventually give up

[A Dark Wisdom]

Hey, I was wonderin', how many posts do you have to have to not be a n00b? Noone thinks I'm a jackass yet, so I'm not that kinda n00b. I heard around 500, but 100 would be nice.

Just to answer...You're not a no0b when you don't have to ask anymore.

[Syprus]

This feels like when you're at school and a tornado comes and you have to hide under the lockers or in the cellar. This is like the cellar. I think this site should have a forum called the Cellar. It's where if the other forums had to be locked down, the Cellar could be the hideout for all the innocent Mxers.

[Dark Hero]

nevermind...

[SkaTastic54]

Im scared....

[SkaTastic54]

Can't we be spammed here?

[Syprus]

Everyone relax, It's be open again soon.. You guys don't want another crappy load of Nasty Pics all over the website do you? Just wait it out and everything will be fine.
Oh, so that's what it was!

[italic zero]

Hey, I was wonderin', how many posts do you have to have to not be a n00b? Noone thinks I'm a jackass yet, so I'm not that kinda n00b. I heard around 500, but 100 would be nice.

10,000. Or 2 years. IMO.

[A Dark Wisdom]

you guys aren't going to die. Just wait it out. everything will still be there...except for the Spam of course.

To: mostly the guy who said he was scared.

[Justin]

Im scared....

Lol there's been A LOT worse on mx before.

[owa for life]

hey guys we should review cd's

[art of losing]

Everyone relax, It's be open again soon.. You guys don't want another crappy load of Nasty Pics all over the website do you?

says who!?

[Double Bass Jim]

I'm not saying we do, but like I said before, more help = less crap like this happening

If you have people on to torch the threads the minute they go up...the spammer will eventually give up
You could have 60 mods on at time, Won't make a difference.. if they are intent on attacking it's going to through no matter what. These guys like to bump threads which is a real pain in the *** to purge for people. These kids will give up eventualy.

[GongTaxi]

Lol there's been A LOT worse on mx before.

this seems like the perfect time to tell stories while my candles are lit

[The JoZ]

Honestly, how do you back up that statement?

I keep hearing "More mods won't make a difference" but I have BEEN at other sites with more mods, and it HAS made a difference

So, enlighten me, Jim, if you would :thumb:

[UncleJam]

This is boring. I was worried when I couldn't get into my beloved Bass forum. :(

Why would someone go to that much trouble to spam?

[owa for life]

what kind of moron would waste their time spamming everything?

[Double Bass Jim]

Were all reporting him to his ISP anyway.. And I mean all of his IP's. This is unacceptable.

[UncleJam]

What did he do?

Who the hell is this guy?

What did he do to the Bass forum?

[art of losing]

Were all reporting him to his ISP anyway.. And I mean all of his IP's. This is unacceptable.

:lol: you sound like my mom.

[The JoZ]

Were all reporting him to his ISP anyway.. And I mean all of his IP's. This is unacceptable.


Well it's about time :thumb:

Still waiting on the more mods = bad statement though :p

[Fallenvictim]

I hate spammers

The was an intresting thread i wanted to look at, dam those jerks

[owa for life]

hey jim this is totally unrelated and answer it whenever you want but how did you get your job?

[SkaTastic54]

It would help if more mods were here, so they can clean up.

[Double Bass Jim]

We know who he is, And everything he's Planned,idea's,Ip's. If he wants to play games thats fine.

[roller4life68]

hi.

/felt like he needed to make his presence known
/is a n00b :D

[SkaTastic54]

Woah this is pretty serious.

[GoM]

hey jim this is totally unrelated and answer it whenever you want but how did you get your job?

:lol:

[you are all retarded]

haha, a coupla things idiots.
amys didnt do this. check the ips...so quick to pin it on him.

as for proxies, that kid tried and failed...look at mhatma...thats him giving up...anyways, that kid cant tell a proxy fro a whole in the ground...

lay off the kid....

take another guess, tards.

[Fallenvictim]

I'd be a mod, get rid of some of the spammers posting stuff that makes my stomach cringe

[roller4life68]

uh oh.

[UncleJam]

God, I'm still confused.

See you all later, bye.

:wave:

(get the bass forum back up!)

[owa for life]

i still dont understand exactly what he did to do all this

[Justin]

This happens from time to time.. People go nuts :D

[Double Bass Jim]

Nice try, But we know it's him.

all 20 accounts that were attempted, all of his fake Proxy Ip's.. Don't play us for the fools.

[SkaTastic54]

What did he try to plan a massive spam attack with his/her friends?

[roller4life68]

was that you are retarded guy him?

[Omega Red]

is this like fort knocks or what

[SkaTastic54]

yes

[roller4life68]

this is fun

[SkaTastic54]

'Tis Fun.

[SubtleDagger]

My guess would be lukeskywalker.

[Double Bass Jim]

What did he try to plan a massive spam attack with his/her friends?
Yes, And he can explain his planning and Tactics to his ISP. Forum was included in the complaints.

[roller4life68]

I have an idea. Everybody post what theyre listening to.

[AK47]

weee

[SkaTastic54]

I'm so bored with the USA -Clash. What is ISP?

[roller4life68]

Well, Im listening to Highway to Hell. So humph.

[lazzarus]

learning to live off the bouns material on the scenes from new york dvd by dream theater

[art of losing]

California Uber Alles- DK

[Bartender]

There's a whole thread in Other for exactly this purpose. Go use that and don't spam what is at least a partially useful thread for bewildered MX members.

[SkaTastic54]

Cool...

[Brain Toad]

Machine Gun by Jimi Hendrix

ISP is Internet Service Provider, like AOL, SBC, and the like.

Hopefully the reporting is successful Jim. I had reported John (RamonesRule) after he sent me about 40 spam emails, but like AOL, they didn't give a s'hit.

[MxShredder]

So is this whole thing becuase of the person\people who were posting the goatse and such and such using html instead of {img} tags?

[art of losing]

There's a whole thread in Other for exactly this purpose. Go use that and don't spam what is at least a partially useful thread for bewildered MX members.

shut up

[SkaTastic54]

I see , thanks, Im not confused now.

[Double Bass Jim]

Well since all the mods collectively sent in complaints.. Including Screens and Evidence Im sure they will accept. If you wanna play games you pay the price.

[roller4life68]

Im going to the other thread. weee

[Adam1]

Well, I was told by an mxer that I was being blamed for a spam attack...

Flat out truth. I was going to try spam yesterday. I made a bunch of accounts. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to use proxies. I found one program, but it just kept me from accessing internet. Anyways, I planned to spam yesterday, but after the 20 account deletions, I just gave up. You can check my accounts, I used no "proxys" or anything.

This guy wasn't even literate when he spammed. Also, why do you say it is me? I had motive yes, but I did nothing.

[SubtleDagger]

shut up
Get off my inernet. (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/login.php?do=logout)

[GongTaxi]

is this like fort knocks or what

are you supposed to be able to get into the bass forum through his profile?

[plumface_2002]

so because this guy was attempting to mass spam he could get kicked off his isp?
right side of the bed- atreyu

(a grim hour for my first post lol)

[Adam1]

Well since all the mods collectively sent in complaints.. Including Screens and Evidence Im sure they will accept. If you wanna play games you pay the price.
May I ask what you mean by "Screens and Evidence"?

[Brain Toad]

So is this whole thing becuase of the person\people who were posting the goatse and such and such using html instead of {img} tags?

AmysVerdict got pissed because he was demoded at Mhatma, then something pissed him off here, which cause a spamfest. Funny how the people who take out spam wars are the ones who have their own forums.

[Adam1]

Oh, and please dont ban me. I am trying to use reason to determine the problem and reach some kind of agreement.

[Double Bass Jim]

You'll Find out when your ISP contacts you. You did get the Proxy Working, At least one of them. You see you wouldnt be in this mess if you mature enough to realise spamming is for children. Mabey they'll talk to your parents and get some sense into you.

[Adam1]

Jim? I'm assuming you are the one in charge of all of this. Can we talk reasonably?

[Adam1]

You'll Find out when your ISP contacts you. You did get the Proxy Working, At least one of them. You see you wouldnt be in this mess if you mature enough to realise spamming is for children. Mabey they'll talk to your parents and get some sense into you.
I didn't user any proxies. I don't understand them.

Please tell me which accounts that were involved in todays spamming had my IP?

[Double Bass Jim]

No, your trying to cover your tracks and were are not going to allow that. this isnt the only time you've spammed our boards, The nasty Images ring a Bell?

[NoRulz]

My first post in these forums, i used to watch bass stuff here, but suddently all went locked up, so am i watin till this opens again

[Adam1]

I spammed your boards once in order to advertise mhatma.

[SkaTastic54]

No, your trying to cover your tracks and were are not going to allow that. this isnt the only time you've spammed our boards, The nasty Images ring a Bell?


Omg I remeber those... I think...The Porn stuff?

[Double Bass Jim]

Don't Like to us about using proxies, You had the program and had one Working.

[art of losing]

*Lie

[Adam1]

No, your trying to cover your tracks and were are not going to allow that. this isnt the only time you've spammed our boards, The nasty Images ring a Bell?
These images are everywhere. Every spammer I've seen uses them. I'm not sure which images it was, but I know it can't be anything out of the ordinary. (goatse or *******)

[A Dark Wisdom]

*Lie

would you leave already. You know what the hell he meant.

[plumface_2002]

wow adam look like ur screwed over, good you deserve it. Spammers can die.

[Double Bass Jim]

Various Memebers generously Showed us plenty of Screen shots of your planning,the Pics you were going to use, the Proxy Program and Success, You messed up man.

[el doctor]

hese guys like to bump threads which is a real pain in the *** to purge for people.
Can't you just lock all threads from before a certain date? That could help a bit with that problem. I'm not a mod though so for all I know that could mean locking each thread individually.

[Adam1]

Don't Like to us about using proxies, You had the program and had one Working.
I had the program yes. Infact I had two...Both just screwed up my internet. I deleted them. (not being arrogant or disrespectful here) Prove that I had proxies and used them.

[Double Bass Jim]

We've seen it all man. Don't cover your tracks.

[plumface_2002]

how did other ppl get screen shot of his planning? he was talking about this with other ppl on other boards, if so, he is the biggest dumbass i know.

[SkaTastic54]

Wait if they didnt attack why are we still here?

[Double Bass Jim]

We have the posts proving that you were roaming freely around MX using a Proxy. We basicly have every page of the whole attack plan.

[Adam1]

Various Memebers generously Showed us plenty of Screen shots of your planning,the Pics you were going to use, the Proxy Program and Success, You messed up man.
My planning? May I ask what that was?
Pictures I was going to use? How'd you come to that? The success of a proxy program...I fail to see how that could work.

[Kaden]

DBJ is on an ownage spree!

[el doctor]

if so, he is the biggest dumbass i know.
Welcome to MX where stupid people are not out of the ordinary. :) (There's an equal amount of intelligent people too though. ;))

[Adam1]

We have the posts proving that you were roaming freely around MX using a Proxy. We basicly have every page of the whole attack plan.
Negotiations?

[plumface_2002]

wow adam sucks to be you

[Double Bass Jim]

Im going to re-open our boards now. I Swear If I even see one spam post from you I will personally call them first thing tommaro and explain everything to them.

[plumface_2002]

yay! whoo finally boards are back

[Mekkalayakay]

Amysverdict, you are a fool, man. A very dumb thing to do. I thought you had more sense. (more then CJS anyway)

[SubtleDagger]

Adam, if you could choke on your mouse and die, that would really be cool. kthnx

[plumface_2002]

Adam, if you could choke on your mouse and die, that would really be cool. kthnx
lol yeah i agree

[sleepless]

...anyone who saw this post disregard it. I joined the festivities about an hour late. :rolleyes:

[Adam1]

We have the posts proving that you were roaming freely around MX using a Proxy. We basicly have every page of the whole attack plan.
What's left to do?
Have you reported me to my "ISP" yet? (this I doubt).
Can anything be arranged?

[Adam1]

Amysverdict, you are a fool, man. A very dumb thing to do. I thought you had more sense. (more then CJS anyway)
you mean to spam, or to get caught?

[plumface_2002]

so could this adam fag get kicked off of his isp because of this?

[Adam1]

Im going to re-open our boards now. I Swear If I even see one spam post from you I will personally call them first thing tommaro and explain everything to them.
Any negotiations?

[Adam1]

so could this adam fag get kicked off of his isp because of this?
You don't know me n00b. Stay out of it.

[plumface_2002]

Any negotiations?
yeah he wants a trunk full of gold in his backyard in 10 or its ur ***...

lol wow you have to be one of the dumbest people i have ever seen post

[Double Bass Jim]

We all Have, Just Stay away from our website.

[SubtleDagger]

Any negotiations?
I think he already said if you spam once, he's reporting you. That would be a negotiation.

[Adam1]

yeah he wants a trunk full of gold in his backyard in 10 or its ur ***...

lol wow you have to be one of the dumbest people i have ever seen post
Is your name Jim? No? Then stop talking.

[Adam1]

We all Have, Just Stay away from our website.
We all have what?

deal;How about, if I never make another post in my life on mxtabs, No report...

[art of losing]

Is your name Jim? No? Then stop talking.

my names jim...does that mean i can talk?

[Adam1]

Nope. you're not the supermod "Double Bass Jim'

[Double Bass Jim]

Stay off of our website.

[art of losing]

but you never said "is your name double bass jim" you just said jim

[The JoZ]

Jim ban this idiot

First rule of a website attack: If you're going to do it, don't ****ing tell other people about it. GG, n00b

[Adam1]

Stay off of our website.
Does that mean that I won't be reported?

[Adam1]

Jim ban this idiot

First rule of a website attack: If you're going to do it, don't ****ing tell other people about it. GG, n00b
I don't intend to spam, but the other bannings didn't stop me.

[Anth0ny]

musician forum mods do a very good job.

[SubtleDagger]

Jim ban this idiot

First rule of a website attack: If you're going to do it, don't ****ing tell other people about it. GG, n00b
I think you missed the part about:

1) The spammer is AmysVerdict, not a noob
2) The spammer is being threatened with being reported to his ISP since (I suppose) s/he cannot be banned

[Double Bass Jim]

Too late anyway, I Already told you we sent them out.

If you go away forever and theyt happen to contact me? I Might give you some leeway and tell them to forget about it.

[Hate Cleanses]

musician forum mods do a very good job.


yeah, hats off to the mods. what the hell is with spamming anyway? "lets show stupid pictures everyone has seen so i can get my ISP pissed off with me!!". wankers.

[Fallenvictim]

Jim put up the guitar forum Please! I'm dieing here

[Double Bass Jim]

Ok man

[Adam1]

Everybody, I'd just like to talk to jim. Everything else is just wortheless crap, that noone cares about.

[pate]

Great job Jim.

[Hate Cleanses]

i never thought id be so bored without these forums working... i feel so insignificant now.

[Terrorist Elimination Network]

If you go away forever and theyt happen to contact me? I Might give you some leeway and tell them to forget about it.
You're getting soft Jim. :lol:

You've got him by the balls either way, he's in no position to ask for anything. You gotta Pay if you wanna Play, and he got caught. Report him and ban him...you win, he loses. :cool:

[Adam1]

Ok man
Ugh... When did these get sent in? Before it wasn't important enough to talk to my ISP...you did it in the last hour or so?

[bassaholica2004]

This thread is probably dead, but what happens to you if your ISP contacts you? Do they stop giving you internet or what?

[Fallenvictim]

Thanks Jimm, youre awsome

[robnathanson]

DBJ--i have a great deal more respect for you now than I ever did before, and I thank you for what your doing tonight! (I always respected you agreat deal)


on an unrelated note, I thik you need to go back to your old avatar.....tha one of you at the drum set
:thumb:

that avatar was teh :cool:

[Double Bass Jim]

We've had Screens from last night as well.

[Aes820]

Too late anyway, I Already told you we sent them out.

If you go away forever and theyt happen to contact me? I Might give you some leeway and tell them to forget about it.

Zero tolerance, DBJ.
I've seen hundreds of posts from spammers contain images from shock sites as well as other random offensive-ness.
It is just not appreciated, and seeing the reactions of other users when their serious threads have been choked up with scat porn images is really dis-heartening.

It has gone on for way too long.
Contact his ISP. And get his arse proper kicked..

[Double Bass Jim]

DBJ--i have a great deal more respect for you now than I ever did before, and I thank you for what your doing tonight! (I always respected you agreat deal)


on an unrelated note, I thik you need to go back to your old avatar.....tha one of you at the drum set
:thumb:

that avatar was teh :cool:
Thank you.

[Adam1]

We've had Screens from last night as well.
Was it Left Face Down that provided you with them?

Also, this is the only time I've spammed gross pictures. Last time it was ads for mhatma. Go after the continal spammers.

[King David]

Great Job Jim.


Spammers :rolleyes:

[Adam1]

Did they get in contact with you? how?

[Understanding In a Crash]

Man that is going to suck when his parents find out :lol:

[Double Bass Jim]

Whats done is done man, Leave the website. We've seen the facts and thats all we needed. Just go away please.

[King David]

What exactly happens when this is reported to the ISPs?

[Adam1]

Honestly Jim, i don't believe the complaints have been sent in. I'm being honest with you now, so be honest with me.

[AK47]

:lol:

[Understanding In a Crash]

What exactly happens when this is reported to the ISPs?
No internet for the little boy? It'd be funny if he got sued too... :lol:

[The JoZ]

Jim, the bass forum is still locked...

[Double Bass Jim]

I Sense your Desperation, why do you continue to ask me all of these quiestions? I've told you everything you need to know.

[Double Bass Jim]

Ok I'll Open it up.

[Understanding In a Crash]

Jim, the bass forum is still locked...
So are all the music genre forums :upset:

[robnathanson]

Honestly Jim, i don't believe the complaints have been sent in. I'm being honest with you now, so be honest with me.
whether or not he's done it yet, I think you should just leave...

it will make it easier for you and all of us here. Besides, Jim already said--if you leave he may give you some leeway.....

you don't seem to understand that.

[Understanding In a Crash]

What I think is really funny about this is in real life when someone commits a crime like a robbery or a murder the convict always brags about what hes done or tells people so they can easily turn him in and he looks like a complete moron in the act.

[Double Bass Jim]

Im an honest guy like everyone on here knows I am, I Don't fool around with petty games like this. Sending a complaint in is not a hard thing to do, Espcially when you've made the whole moderting team steaming with anger. Not just My Copy the rest of the copys that have been sent to the rest of the team. You wouldnt be posting non-stop if you werent guilty.. Just get out of here man.

[Terrorist Elimination Network]

Honestly Jim, i don't believe the complaints have been sent in. I'm being honest with you now, so be honest with me.
He's done it before. You see most people are mature enough to dislike spam, especially when it's in the form of disgusting pictures. When spammed, they take action which results in punishment for the faggot who did all the ****.

[RavenousMetalist87]

Some people are douchebags with no life.

e.g. - AmysVerdict

Oh well...why can't AmysVerdict go join a church group and make new friends?

or simply just start playing the instrument they orginally wanted to play?

Spamming up the boards and causing a shutdown to them for a temporary time is a blow to some users because they might need to see something before they leave or need to post something really important...

[SubtleDagger]

I find it funny that you want mercy now that you've been caught.

You did the deed, now do the time. Quit bitching.

[Adam1]

Ugh...Jim, I am desperate. Wouldn't you be?

Anyways, I guess I'm leaving mx for good. I wont be coming back (unless by some freak chance, DBJ ad all the other supermods dissapear). I'd like to make my formal apology. My problem was not with the users, but with the mentailty of mx, and zerokewl in part. I wanted to send a message to mx, and get a little bit of revenge on zero...I admit, I had fun spamming, but the consequences were not worth it. I apologize to all the users of mx, and DBJ. I advise people not to spam, but I know they will. Anyways, I might stick around to see a response, but other than that, I'm gone, and I pray that no reprocussions come from my ISP.

Thanks,
-Adam

[Adam1]

He's done it before. You see most people are mature enough to dislike spam, especially when it's in the form of disgusting pictures. When spammed, they take action which results in punishment for the faggot who did all the ****.
I advertised once before. I swear on my guitar that that was the only time I've EVER done it. Everything else can be balmed on strangers, and a couple people who you know.

[Double Bass Jim]

Goodbye.