Euro 2008 (Official LOL Vidic Thread)

[Dave de Sylvia]

I hope he eats Nani.

edit: I think Arsenal played so well against United because we allowed them to play the way they like to play. It made for a very exciting game, and to United's credit we had just as many chances to win it (and probably should have), but I think if we'd been a little smarter about it (like City) they could have been easily dispatched.

[mph4ever]

chelsea at home, arsenal in need of a result.

arsenal are fives in the bookies

gallas, anelka, ashely cole, serious amount of stuff going on

citeh vs. manu is much bigger game. think arsenal vs spurs, chelsea vs millwall hahahaha

[jingledeath]

hopefully Arsenal will get a good result tomorrow.Chelsea and Livp need to lose so Man U can close the gap but with Man U's current form City will probably win.

[Pastorius]

I need Arsenal to win and City to win.

[Happy]

Man Pompey were unlucky last night.

Still, a great game to watch

[mph4ever]

city home and away are the two biggest games this season

[Echleon]

city home and away are the two biggest games this season

lol wat?

[mph4ever]

manu against city, home and away, are the two biggest games any season for manu

[Echleon]

How come you have come to that conclusion?

Surely the home games against Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal are the most important as United have only picked 1 point up from a possible 9 from the subsequent away fixtures?

[mph4ever]

its all about rivalry. city are it when it comes to grudge matches. have to hate city if you love manu, then you have liverpool, leeds when they were around, then arsenal, chelsea don't count a whole lot, they are below the rest of in the local shire

[Pastorius]

Yeah City v United is the grudge match, and Liverpool v United always has a charged atmosphere, more so than Chelsea v United. Chelsea v United is a big game, but it's not as looked forward to as Liverpool or City.

[Echleon]

its all about rivalry. city are it when it comes to grudge matches. have to hate city if you love manu, then you have liverpool, leeds when they were around, then arsenal, chelsea don't count a whole lot, they are below the rest of in the local shire

Yeah ofcourse, but to be honest, 3 points against Chelsea or Liverpool will always be worth more than 3 points against City.

[mph4ever]

never, ever, ever, ever, ever. beating the blue is better than beating anyone

[Dave de Sylvia]

Yeah City v United is the grudge match, and Liverpool v United always has a charged atmosphere, more so than Chelsea v United. Chelsea v United is a big game, but it's not as looked forward to as Liverpool or City.
I do not think I am alone in saying that nobody looks forward to seeing Chelsea play anyone.

[mph4ever]

you are not alone

[Pastorius]

It's only a points fixture.

[TakeWarning]

Didn't City do the double over United last season?

[Iai]

Yes they did. Which just makes it a bigger match.

Don't forget about the Mark Hughes factor in this.

[Echleon]

It's only a points fixture.

Last time I checked, points win you the league! If United win the league this season, they will have 18 league titles which will be level with Liverpool and one step closer to knocking them of their f**king perch for good!

The fact is, the majority of United fans would rather beat Liverpool than City.

[Iai]

I have a horrible feeling we'll get beat today :(

[2muchket!]

Don't be daft son, the geordie wankers have have that moron Kinnear in cahrge.

[Echleon]

Shearer turned down a role in Newcastle coaching staff :(

I was hoping that we wouldn't have to suffer him on MOTD anymore.

[Pastorius]

I'd rather him than Lawro!

Lawro was commentating once and there was about a 20 second gap and he said "...is it just me or does this ball sound soft?"

[Echleon]

:lol: Ah god, Lawro is terrible too.

Noone gets me more than Townsand though - decent commentator, but someone could score a 40 yard bicycle kick in the 95th minute to win the Champions League Final and he still wouldn't get excited.

[mph4ever]

city first and foremost. then scouse scum

[2muchket!]

If lawro's pre-seasons predictions were correct I think boro would have relegated 6/7 seasons on the trot.

Daft cu'nt.

[Happy]

Well he's taking a break from predicting right now.

A break from being wrong.

[2muchket!]

Blergh another draw against the geordie scum.

[Pastorius]

What a rip roaring day of football...

Boro been disappointing this year Frankster!

[Iai]

We've been better than Newcastle or Sunderland!

[mph4ever]

thats not hard

[Dave de Sylvia]

Yeah today was probably the worst day in the history of football. To add insult to injury that smarmy Swedish git off Bolton scored two.

[mph4ever]

looks like a succccessssss

[TakeWarning]

Wait, all the other games were as bad as Boro-Newcastle? Because that was pretty awful.

[Echleon]

Some cracking fixtures today.

Will defiently be watching City vs United, and possibly Chelsea vs Arsenal if I can be bothered.

[jingledeath]

the lack of premier league goals has become quite alarming.Hopefully that problem will be fixed today.
Mancity-Man utd 3-1
chelsea-Arsenal 2-2

[Echleon]

Man City 1 - 3 United
Chelsea 2 - 1 Arsenal
Pompey 2 - 0 Blackburn
Spurs 2 - 2 Everton

[Happy]

Spurs are going to win duh.


Histon are doing well.

[ChodaBoy]

This is fecking rediculous. Mark Hughes' defensive strategy must have been the hokie cokie. Everyone just gangs up and swings their legs around.

Then when they get the ball its just booted up in the air, and Utd deal with it without any problems.

[TakeWarning]

I've never seen so many backheels in the one game, it's rather ridiculous. Carrick needs more support from Fletcher.

[Echleon]

Wazza!!! 1-0, United absolutely running the show.

:lol: Leeds are out!

[Happy]

Histon just drew Swansea, they look pissed off lol.

Spurs vs Wigan. Should be an easy game.

[TakeWarning]

Who the **** are Histon then?

I assumed they would be a mere formality for Leeds?

Third Round

Portsmouth v Bristol City
Sheffield Wednesday v Fulham
Preston v Liverpool
Birmingham v Wolves
West Ham v Barnsley
Middlesbrough v Barrow
Hull v Newcastle
Hartlepool v Stoke
Chelsea v Southend
Manchester City v Nottingham Forest
Cardiff v Reading
Ipswich v Chesterfield/Droylsden
Charlton v Norwich
West Brom v Peterborough/Tranmere
Torquay v Blackpool
Leyton Orient v Sheffield United
Southampton v Manchester United
Millwall v Carlisle/Crewe
Histon v Swansea
Forest Green v Derby
QPR v Burnley
Leicester v Crystal Palace
Tottenham v Wigan
Morecambe/Cheltenham v Doncaster
Arsenal v Plymouth
Notts County/Kettering v Eastwood
Bournemouth/Blyth Spartans v Blackburn
Macclesfield v Everton
Watford v Scunthorpe
Sunderland v Bolton
Coventry v Kidderminster
Gillingham/Stockport v Aston Villa


Ties to be played January 3/4.


FA Cup third round draw.

[Happy]

Underdogs who are through to the 3rd round of the FA cup.

Currently 2nd in the Conference (league below League 2) with 2 games in hand.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I've never seen so many backheels in the one game, it's rather ridiculous. Carrick needs more support from Fletcher.
Carrick looks lost whenever he gets into advanced positions. Fletcher really needs to take control of those situations or else Ji Sung Park will be forced to do everything.


Roooooooooooooooooooooooooonaldo!!!

[mph4ever]

all i can remember about southampton is '76 when they beat us at wembley and their goals posts were nearly as close to the crowd as qpr's at loftus road

[Happy]

Southampton is where I'm going for uni.

My campus is right near the stadium so I can maybe watch some games there :D

[mph4ever]

good for you

jamie ****ing ex scouse **** should be shot

[TakeWarning]

If you're referring to Jamie Redknapp, he's a Yiddo now.

God online streaming is terrible.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Jamie Redknapp is easily the worst football pundit in existence.

"Unsporting conduct." I suppose voluntarily passing up a goalscoring opportunity could be considered unsporting, but probably not in the way Jamie means it.

[badtaste]

What did Cronaldo do to get sent off?

[Echleon]

To be fair, I can't really defend Ronaldo on this one.

It was a deliberate hand-ball, and whether he thought the whistle had gone or not - it's still a yellow card.

However, his first yellow was ridiculous and never should have been given. Oh, and I REALLY REALLY wish Rooney had scored that 50 yarder :(

All in all, 3 points in the bag but we are without Evra and Ronaldo for Spurs which is a bit of a pain. Ronaldo may not be playing at his best, and could probably do with a rest to be fair, but Evra is absolutely fantastic week in and week out.

What did Cronaldo do to get sent off?

Fouled someone to get his first yellow, then used his hands to shield his face from a corner - deliberate handball.

[Happy]

Handball

[Dave de Sylvia]

Handball. He was going in for a corner and instead of heading it he put his hands in front of his face at the last second. He claims he heard a whistle, but the referee gave him a second yellow.

[badtaste]

Aye, aye, aye.

Any one here remember that Tevez character?

[Echleon]

Aye, aye, aye.

Any one here remember that Tevez character?

Aye! I remember him well.

It's a shame that he's not getting games, but with Berbatov we look a completely differant team to be fair.

[ChodaBoy]

What was with the bumming of Rooney on the big attempt? Any of the 22 players on the pitch would have done the same. Its not as if he's the only one able of kicking the ball far.

Bad loss for City, just a complete shambles in the first half, then in the second their best solution to getting the ball was passing it back to the defenders.

[Dave de Sylvia]

mon the arsenal

why isn't malouda playing? :angry:

[TakeWarning]

Ronaldo shouldn't have received that second yellow. There's nothing in the rules about a deliberate handball being a second yellow, unless it's regarded as unsporting behaviour. Passing up a clear-cut goal opportunity is hardly "unsporting behaviour" but as soon as he clapped the ref he was always going to get sent off.

Howard Webb was terrible today.

[ChodaBoy]

The ball was in play, he used his hands to direct the ball, he got a yellow card. Whats the complaint?

[Dave de Sylvia]

Webb is usually excellent, to be fair, but today he was far too litigious. Did any City players even get booked? I didn't think it was a dirty game by any means, but he seemed to be handing out yellow cards like they were Christmas cards.

The ball was in play, he used his hands to direct the ball, he got a yellow card. Whats the complaint?
Direct the ball where? He didn't gain any advantage from handling it. It's exactly the same as the Benni McCarthy decision a few weeks back- the fact that he passed up a legitimate scoring chance should be punishment enough.

[mph4ever]

The ball was in play, he used his hands to direct the ball, he got a yellow card. Whats the complaint?

if you handle the ball to gain benefit then its a card. otherwise its a non issue

he had 50k on manu to win one nil hahahahahaha otherwise he would have put the ball in the net

everyone, if you are going to complain then learn teh roolz first

chelsea 1 nil

[jingledeath]

Chelsea to win 3-0.
yeah Ronaldo was unlucky.With him on the pitch United might've scored a few more.At least he performed better than Robinho whilst he was on the pitch.Webb's refereeing was below par today.

[mph4ever]

two footed, terry is scum and brainless, should never have been made captain of england

[Echleon]

How dare you say that about England's Lion? He's such a brave, brave man.

[Happy]

mph, you will shortly be deported.

[Iai]

two footed, terry is scum and brainless, should never have been made captain of england
should have posted this after the champions league final tbh

[jingledeath]

Well that result was unexpected.Damn it, now Liverpool will be at the top of the table.

[mph4ever]

Well that result was unexpected.Damn it, now Liverpool will be at the top of the table.


that was not unexpected

[mph4ever]

How dare you say that about England's Lion? He's such a brave, brave man.


as we say here. hes a knacker. scum

[Iai]

People called Mourinho's Chelsea flat-track bullies - at least he got points off Liverpool, Arsenal, and Man U sometimes.

[mph4ever]

i'm not too sure there have many great additions to the premiership this season

name one?

[Iai]

Hull.

[mph4ever]

perfect

[TakeWarning]

i'm Not Too Sure There Have Many Great Additions To The Premiership This Season

Name One?

Rory Delap

[Pastorius]

Coooooome ooon Liverpool.

[VomitStainedCretin]

Third Round

Portsmouth v Bristol City
Sheffield Wednesday v Fulham
Preston v Liverpool...

...Watford v Ssquirrelhorpe:lol:

[badtaste]

Well that result was unexpected.Damn it, now Liverpool will be at the top of the table.

lol, I thought the same thing when I saw the result of that game.

[mph4ever]

funny old game

[Interstate]

Come on the Gunners.

Just seen Ronaldo's face on the back of the paper this morning. He looks like he's about to cry.

[Happy]

The Sun? He looks like a naughty schoolboy haha.


What a prick.

[Interstate]

The Sun? He looks like a naughty schoolboy haha.


What a prick.

The Daily Mail. I didn't see the match but I saw the highlights of him getting booked for applauding the ref. What an idiot.

[Happy]

Yeah, shot himself in the foot lol.

But I'm sure its the same picture anyway.

[Interstate]

Probably is. Maybe it will teach him not to be so cocky next time.

[Echleon]

I'm a United fan, and the cnut deserved to go for applauding the ref.

[TakeWarning]

Great player but seriously, he's an embarassment to Man United.

[Happy]

I can't think of anyone I dislike more in football.

[Interstate]

Great player but seriously, he's an embarassment to Man United.

This.

He deserved the yellow card, players get paid stupid amounts of money, yet they don't have the courtesy to respect the refs decisions.

[poorquality]

He didn't get booked for applauding the ref >_> he got booked for the tackle on the player, then argued about it being his first offence. He applauded after he got the yellow and I immediately thought '**** it he's off now' but the ref let him off.

As far as the handball goes, whether he heard a whistle or whatever, deliberate handball is a yellow by the book, and i'm sure the ref wasn't gonna let him off again. Shouldn't of been on the pitch by that point anyway.

[mph4ever]

i can understand his frustration. we got more undeserved bookings yesterday than we have for a while. at the same time, he should have more respect for the ref.

misses the carling cup game with blackburn

beating the blue makes up for it all

[Dave de Sylvia]

I think Webb is easily the best referee in the Premiership (didn't deserve to be sent home from the Euros), but he had a bad day yesterday. He was way too fussy about letting people take free kicks, and he seemed to be giving out yellow cards to stop the game getting out of control, yet it never really looked like becoming that sort of game.
The Daily Mail. I didn't see the match but I saw the highlights of him getting booked for applauding the ref. What an idiot.
He got booked for the foul- that's what he was applauding the ref. I think it more or less sealed his fate though; Webb wasn't going to do him any favours once he handled the ball.

Still think it's silly that people can be sent off for completely innocuous handballs though. Benni McCarthy shouldn't have been sent off either.

[Iai]

Good point made about yesterday's game on F365 - Fergie's been whining about the way Ronaldo gets fouled all the time, but four Utd players all got booked for fouls on SWP yesterday.

edit: what a crappy 15,000th post

[Dave de Sylvia]

Ronaldo does get kicked a lot though.

edit: what a crappy 29,535th post

[Interstate]

Good point made about yesterday's game on F365 - Fergie's been whining about the way Ronaldo gets fouled all the time, but four Utd players all got booked for fouls on SWP yesterday.

edit: what a crappy 15,000th post

He's always whined about his players getting fouled. Wenger's starting to go the same way as well.

[poorquality]

I don't get the rules about challenges like the one for instance that Carrick made on SWP, now he got a yellow for it, but is it really fair? You get a yellow for mistiming a tackle or something. SWP was getting away from Carrick using his pace, so Carrick took him out from behind knowing he'd only get a yellow.

People do it all the time, they take the yellow for their team, but is a yellow a fair punishment for it? I always thought if you took a player down from behind with no attempt to win the ball, but simply to stop him progressing should be punishable by a red.

The player would still need to get past the defence, so it's obviously not a clear goal scoring opportunity, I wanted to know what people thought about such challenges, sure they help the team by buying them time to get their defence sorted and such, but it's so horribly deliberate it just seems unfair to me >_>

[Echleon]

He didn't get booked for applauding the ref >_> he got booked for the tackle on the player, then argued about it being his first offence. He applauded after he got the yellow and I immediately thought '**** it he's off now' but the ref let him off.

As far as the handball goes, whether he heard a whistle or whatever, deliberate handball is a yellow by the book, and i'm sure the ref wasn't gonna let him off again. Shouldn't of been on the pitch by that point anyway.

I know he didn't get a yellow for clapping the reft :rolleyes: but he should have.

Technically, deliberate hand-ball is not a yellow card - it's only if the player seeks to gain an advantage by handballing it - ie. using his hand to score a goal, move the ball into a better position for him, or to beat a player or something. He probably did deserve to go anyway though.

I always thought if you took a player down from behind with no attempt to win the ball, but simply to stop him progressing should be punishable by a red

Nah, it's only a red if the player that takes the other one out is the last man, thus denying a goal-scoring opportunity. Tackles from behind are also only red if they are super malicious, stucks showing, very high etc.

Yeah it is abit unfair I agree, but I guess it would be pretty hard in the heat of a moment during a fast paced game to distinquish between a deliberate foul, or just a sloppy challenge. I think there would end up being ALOT of red cards thrown around if this was the case.

I do agree though to some extent. Some teams do just resort to deliberately fouling highly skilled players - Messi, Ronaldo etc. because they just can't cope with them. I guess it's one way of stopping them really - although it may not really be fair. Saying that, if they do it more than once they are off the pitch.

Good point made about yesterday's game on F365 - Fergie's been whining about the way Ronaldo gets fouled all the time, but four Utd players all got booked for fouls on SWP yesterday.

Meh it's just Fergie. He always defends his players no matter what they do. It wouldn't be really good if he came out in the media and said 'I thought it was disgusting that my players kept fouling Wright-Phillips'. He is a hypocrite, but he has to be. The Ronaldo thing is also mind games, by complaining about the treatment he gets, the refs and linesman may be more alert and give him better protection without even thinking about it - kind of subconciously.

I can't think of anyone I dislike more in football.

I can think of a whole load! Drogba, Adebayor, Terry, Gerrard, Eto'o...

[poorquality]

I know he didn't get a yellow for clapping the reft :rolleyes: but he should have.


yeah I agree, I wasn't commenting about your post, it was about:

but I saw the highlights of him getting booked for applauding the ref. What an idiot.

should of been clearer, sorry.

[Echleon]

Forget about it, not a problem :)

[Pastorius]

should have

how many times do i have to tell you hooligans?

[Iai]

Why Eto'o, may I ask?

[Pastorius]

I really want to get a 360 so I can play FIFA 09 on be a pro mode.

[Echleon]

Why Eto'o, may I ask?

When Ronaldinho won World Player of the Year, he said something like 'If my name was Eto'odinho I would have won.' Also came out and said 'Some people in the team care more about money than then team's fortunes' or something along those lines.

Oh, also when Barca won the league, he chanted 'Madrid, bastards, hail the champions' during a speech at the Nou Camp - despite Real Madrid being the team that took him on when he was 16/17 and developed him into a player.

[mph4ever]

ref was useless yesterday, seemed like he was taken in by all the hype surrounding the game and lashed out yellow cards for fouls that really didn't deserve it. rafael just lobbed the ball too high, he didn't need to card him. the ref failed because he should have sent ronaldo off for the clapping. once he left him on the pitch then there was always going to be problems. ronaldo should never have gotten a yellow for the handball.

ronaldo is excellent. he is to be admired, not slagged. sure he makes the odd mistake, but then he is only human. its wrong to think of him in terms of drogba or terry or gerrard or palour or keown or lampard or carragher or diouf or van persie or anelka or gary neville or tiatto or that little bald lad that played for leeds and then city, england player. - i remember, danny bleedin' mills

ps - of course i'll still love him when he leaves :rolleyes:

and michael owen, you have to dislike him, joey barton, lauren, .........

[2muchket!]

2nd year running Mido gets racially abused by the travelling geordie fans. Don't think the FA will do anything either just like last time.

****ing stupid inbred geordie cu'nts

[Echleon]

Bellamy just got pulled up for DELIBERATE hand-ball, was he booked?

Was he ****.

[Iai]

So I only found out today that the reason Mido gets that chant aimed at him is because h looks like the shoe bomber.

I looked up a picture.

I lol'ed :(

[Echleon]

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/17/thestarfisher0.gif

What a brilliant week for United!

With the Scouse drawing, we are no only 6 points from the top having played: Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Portsmouth, City, Villa, Blackburn and Everton away from home.

Oh yeah, and we have a game in hand :smoke:

[Pastorius]

Yeah well we're marginally top of the league. Can't believe we didn't take out chance to extend a lead. Anyone see the game can tell me how it went?

[talk show host]

Only saw the first half of the Reading game tonight, but it was pretty poor. Pleased with the win, but central midfield is an issue. The commentators were harping on about Cisse, but Harper was just as bad. I want to see Matejovsky get a run in the side now, next to Cisse or Karacan, someone more defence minded. The rest of the team looks good, and there should be enough for automatic promotion if the midfield is sorted.

Murty should replace Shearer on MOTD when he goes too.

[TakeWarning]

Echleon love the .gif mate.
The rest of the team looks good, and there should be enough for automatic promotion if the midfield is sorted.

Yeah I'd like to see The Royals back in the EPL. Them and Wolves.

http://img.skysports.com/08/02/218x298/mick_mccarthy_657244.jpg

[badtaste]

lol, starfish ftw.

[Echleon]

Hehe, well credit goes to Top from Redcafe.

I'd like to see Birmingham and Reading to be honest. Always liked Coppell and Reading and they were really unlucky to go down last season. My mate supports Birmingham so it will be good to have some matchday rivalry again!

I'm sorry, but I just don't like Mick McCarthy!!!

[mph4ever]

mick mccarthy should have put his head in the bacon slicer, not his arse

[TakeWarning]

Hehe, well credit goes to Top from Redcafe.

I'd like to see Birmingham and Reading to be honest. Always liked Coppell and Reading and they were really unlucky to go down last season. My mate supports Birmingham so it will be good to have some matchday rivalry again!

I'm sorry, but I just don't like Mick McCarthy!!!

Do you post on Redcafe then?

I lurk there, it's good fun sometimes.

[jingledeath]

So Ronaldo finally wins Ballon d'Or
Congratulations to him although he's still having a **** season by his standards.

[Echleon]

Do you post on Redcafe then?

I lurk there, it's good fun sometimes.

Yeah I do post there quite abit. Still in the Newbies which is full of trolls and complete idiots, but like you said it's good fun to lurk around the mains sometimes.

Fantastic for Ronaldo. He may be misfiring abit in Europe, but 8 league goal in 10 games is brilliant in my opinion.

[mph4ever]

things can only get better for him

9 goals, missed first month or more, looks like he is only getting back to his required levels of fitness and manu have no real midfield to support him rooney or berbatov presently.

[jingledeath]

Yeah well they need Scholes and Hargreaves back but Carrick is playing quite well, he won't be taken off the 1st team easily.

[Echleon]

To be honest, we really havn't missed Scholes and Hargreaves an awful lot.

Fletcher and Carrick have been immense to an extent that Scholes wont just be able to walk into the team.

We could really have done with Hargreaves earlier on the season when Carrick got injured, then Scholes got injured soon after. But alas, we could have done with Scholes against Villa as Anderson had just come back from Brazil, and Fletcher was injured so we were forced to play Giggs in CM, which really wasn't wise against 3 CM's.

[mph4ever]

scholes is the best midfielder we have. hes is one of the best in europe, even at his age. his absence is the reason why we have failed to control games, put teams away, hargreaves too is massive loss to the team that ferguson wants to play

giggs should not be expected to play centre

[mph4ever]

i just watched ronaldo's 42 goals from last year. stunning, totally stunning. best player in the world by far today. 2nd half of this season will be the real test

[Echleon]

Giggs shouldn't be expected to play in the Centre, but Fergie says he hasn't got the legs at the moment. So it leaves the question: 'Will this be the great man's last season?'

Ronaldo was brilliant last season. I'm sure he can regain some form soon. Not playing midweek will certainly help him.

EDIT: Just watched the video too - was absolutely outstanding. I think I counted about 9 headers - shows how good he is in the air.

[mph4ever]

and his free kicks were out of this world

[Happy]

Please stop it now.

[mph4ever]

and did you see his crosses, oh my god, to die for, and that one where he did the little back flick from outside the six yard box.....................

[Happy]

Yeah did you see that time he died in a fire

[Dave de Sylvia]

link plz

[Echleon]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F-j47a3-Lt0

Backheel against Villa was crazy.

http://i36.tinypic.com/hrhrfl.gif

:lol:

[Pastorius]

Fair play like.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Now that's worth a sending-off.

[mph4ever]

c'mon burrnlay, lol t'arsenal,

us'd t goa t tuff moour as kid, our dads cousin on it turnstyells

[TakeWarning]

Haha oh man that's good. Have the notorious swarm of bees made a re-appearance following Gerrard's latest air-swing?

[Dave de Sylvia]

Notorious swarm of bees?

[TakeWarning]

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll276/TopRedCafe/PartyStevie.gif

EDIT: Swarm of bees. Both from Top@Redcafe

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll276/TopRedCafe/GrantColebees.gif

[badtaste]

Great gifs.

Haven't seen one of those Ronaldo floating free kicks in a whilel.

[mph4ever]

scholes back tonight maybe - sweet

[TakeWarning]

Scholesy is the king. Best player of all time by far. On top of that, he's a gentleman through and through.

Hope Man U lose though tbh.

[mph4ever]

its the cup of upsets. spurs stand a chance to get european football early and then concentrate on performances for next season

[Echleon]

spurs stand a chance to get european football early and then concentrate on performances for next season

Hmmm, that sounds familiar! :lol:

Seriously though, if we beat Blackburn tonight the cup is as good as ours. I fancy ourselves against Spurs, Burnley, Derby and Watford over two legs. I kinda hope we get Spurs if they win because I feel we have a better chance of beating them over two games than in the Final.

Thing is, the longer we keep going in this competition, the more difficult our season is going to become. We are off to Japan for the World Club Cup thing, which is going to cause us to 2 games behind in the Premiership. I think Fergie was hoping to get the games organised for Carling Cup time if we got knocked out.

Though I suppose having two games in hand against Wigan and Fulham wont be too bad - I think in '99 when we had to same issue Fergie said 'Were we sunning ourselves on the beach whilst our title rivals were droppoing points at home' :lol:

Anyway, the Japan thing will help get Scholes back into the mix, give Foster a chance to make his claim, and REALLY see what Rafael can do.

[Iai]

Rafael kept Robinho quiet for 90 minutes. What more do you want?

[Echleon]

Was more like Park really.

I want to see how he performs in a tournament final, how he copes with the pressure. I kinda of want to see him make a mistake, and see how well he recovers from it.

All these talk of the Arsenal youngsters yesterday, but they showed they had no resilience after they went 1-0 down.

[Pastorius]

Park has been playing blinders lately, he's improved tenfold in the last few seasons.

[Echleon]

He's been pretty awesome lately. He wont do step-overs and any mesmerising skill, hell, he doesn't even cross the ball that much, but my god can he run!

So usefull at getting back to defend and closing down players to force them into mistakes and give them less time on the ball. Apparently against Barca at home last season he rang over 8 miles :lol:

3 Lung Park!

[mph4ever]

i'd love to see young tom cleverley play for manu and make the mistake of passing the ball to david dunn of blackburn and hear the the commentator say

"cleverley-dunn"

and we could all shout

"no it wasn't!"

bored to death, i am

[Happy]

I need to bet on football more.
I was saying to my girlfriend last night that there must be great odds on Burnley beating Arsenal, and considered doing it.

Saw £330 pay out as well if Tottenham beat Watford 4-0
Unlikey but still, I'll be kicking myself if it happens.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Looks like Scholes might get a few minutes tonight as a sub.

[Happy]

kk Watford 1-0 Spurs.

Looks like I made the right decision today.

[Dave de Sylvia]

An hour gone at United and Tevez has a hat-trick. AND Paul Scholes is warming up haha

[mph4ever]

could burnley make it three out of three with the big london clubs?

[Happy]

no.

[Iai]

The City - PSG game started so well but it's ended up being so damn boring.

[mph4ever]

because spurs would put out their full team?

[Happy]

because spurs would put out their full team?

No because Spurs are my favourites and I say they will win.

[Echleon]

United 5 - 3 Blackburn!

Tevez got 4 haha :D United's 4th goal was absoultely amazing! So was the 5th apparently but I missed it.

Highlights 11:40 ITV apparently.

[Happy]

Woah it was 4-1 when I stopped reading the text lol.

[mph4ever]

No because Spurs are my favourites and I say they will win.

i know that

spurs give the trophy the respect it deserves

[Happy]

Wow imagine if they won it two years in a row, I'd die of happiness.

[TakeWarning]

Spurs beat Watford! Get in!

Another unconvincing performance which is somewhat worrying.

[2muchket!]

Spurs beat Watford! Get in!

Another unconvincing performance which is somewhat worrying.

Would you prefer an unconvincing performance + loss ?!

Your down in the relegation zone points matter whatever way you can get 'em.

[Iai]

Keano quit. Kinnear's staying.

Sometimes it's nice supporting the biggest and best club in the North East.

[mph4ever]

quinn is a tosser

keane took the wrong job. he needed to go to anger management before he did football management. maybe he should go back on the beer and relax

[Dave de Sylvia]

The whole Keane thing is weird. Then again he is from Cork.

[Iai]

F365's letters page is funny.

'Keane sucks!' - Sunderland fan
'Keane sucks!' - Sunderland fan
'Keane sucks!' - Liverpool fan
'Keane sucks!' - Man City fan
'KEANE RULES ZOMG' - someone from Cork
'KEANE RULES ZOMG' - someone from Cork
'Keane sucks!' - Sunderland fan
'They should hire Keegan' - Boro fan

[mph4ever]

i wish keane had never taken up management, i'd rather remember him as a player, quinn is a dick for exploiting him for the money from the irish connection at sunderland. quinn should resign and hang his ugly face in shame

[Dave de Sylvia]

wat the hell are you talking about

[Surtr]

Haha, I think we probably should have seen it coming eventually...

On a side note, I'm downloading ****ing Football Manager 2009, and I'm pleased if it works.

[mph4ever]

wat the hell are you talking about

quinn should not have tapped keane for management. keane does not have the ability to manage. he is a nutbag, that does not work today

quinn only did it to make the stadium of light a paddy field

[Dave de Sylvia]

He is quite clearly a good manager but he is erratic too.

[Echleon]

I can imagine he's a good motivator, but I do question his tactical ability and he's spent a shed load of money over the past couple of seasons, on pretty average players.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Well it is Sunderland. You kind of have to be pretty average to want to play there.

[mph4ever]

too much too young

[Pastorius]

He'll be a great one day. He's got to be.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I don't know, they said the same thing about Platini. And Steve Staunton!

I think he has a lot of the right attributes, but I think he always has that tendency to walk out when things aren't going his way.

[mph4ever]

nah, hes finished. can't change the great soldier into the general, unless you spend more time with the greatest general

[Pastorius]

But he's Roy Keane :(

He's a warrior!

[Happy]

Would you prefer an unconvincing performance + loss ?!

Your down in the relegation zone points matter whatever way you can get 'em.

What?

It was the Carling Cup, Watford aren't even in the premier league to claim points off them and we're not in the relegation zone, we're 16th.

[mph4ever]

watching the repeat of manu blackburn, anderson is immense

talk about putting out youth

[TakeWarning]

Would you prefer an unconvincing performance + loss ?!

Your down in the relegation zone points matter whatever way you can get 'em.

Well obviously I'd rather win. But Watford are struggling in the Championship at the moment. If we're as poor against West Ham as we were against Watford, they'll probably beat us. And that would be embarassing.

[2muchket!]

What?

It was the Carling Cup, Watford aren't even in the premier league to claim points off them and we're not in the relegation zone, we're 16th.

idk

lack of mido not getting retribution for getting racially abused makes me ramble

[Echleon]

idk

lack of mido not getting retribution for getting racially abused makes me ramble

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/middlesbrough/7758089.stm

[Happy]

Islamaphobic.

Never heard that one before.

[Echleon]

I'm off to see United vs Sunderland tomorrow :D should be awesome, can't wait!

[mph4ever]

good for you. pity keano won't be there for one last prawn sandwich

[Echleon]

:lol:

Yeah, it would have been awesome if he was there.

Fergie is serving his touch-line ban, so there's a chance I could see him in the stands :)

[Dave de Sylvia]

Another outstanding first-half performance from Liverpool haha

At this rate they might even nick a goal before Christmas.

[Happy]

Blackburn are a very good team though.

[Iai]

It's 1st vs. 19th, dude. No excuses.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Blackburn are a decent side but there's a clear gap of class between them and Liverpool. So far, Blackburn look the only side capable of scoring a goal, and even so they're not pressing by any means.

[Happy]

I was taking the piss.

[Dave de Sylvia]

haha well Blackburn are still a decent side

[2muchket!]

what a ****ing joke that Hull game was

[Dave de Sylvia]

Why?

The BBC correspondent, after Tuncay scored, said "they've won the match now!" despite the fact there was like 20 minutes to go. Then they lost.

Did anyone see the fat man rubbing his bare belly at Old Trafford? Surprisingly, it wasn't Wayne Rooney.

[Happy]

Pavylchenko?

[mph4ever]

that was late

[Dave de Sylvia]

Vidic's celebration was one of the best things I've ever seen. I love that ugly man.

[Happy]

That was a close one!

[mph4ever]

Vidic's celebration was one of the best things I've ever seen. I love that ugly man.
legend already, gives us bottle when the rest of the lads have silky skills. nice finish, all the way to hug mike phelan

[Pastorius]

Another dive from Ronaldo today, tut tut, I do hate the man. Love how he plays though apart from the diving.

EDIT: Vidic, you legend. What a celebration.

[mph4ever]

still not as important as rio

[Pastorius]

Not as important, but better I think.

[Dave de Sylvia]

More important than Rio.

[Pastorius]

No-one's saying he's more important than Rio?

[Dave de Sylvia]

I know, I am :confused:

[Pastorius]

Brilliant goal by Deco, simply beautiful.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Anelka's goal was incredible too. I saw Bosingwa play 4 times at Euro 2008 and I don't think he once beat the first defender with a cross, but for Chelsea he's been pretty excellent.

[Pastorius]

Bosingwa has been reaaally good, he was my dark horse for my fantasy football team, he's earned me so many points.

[talk show host]

Yeah, Bosingwa's been good for me so far. The rest of my team's been largely ****, though.

Watching motd tonight, and I really don't like Arsenal, but I felt bad for Eboue. He was rubbish, and has been, but the booing was harsh. I know he's probably sleeping soundly on his bed of millions, but I don't think many players really deserve that.

In better news, Wolves lost! Only 7 points behind now.

[Echleon]

Just got back from Manchester, was absolutely amazing!

I was right behind the goal when Vidic scored and the place went absolutely mental! Really great experience but immensely fustrating as we had so many chances, and I really though we were going to throw it away at one point. Really want to go back as soon as I can.

[mph4ever]

yeah, nothing like a defender scoring a goal in injury time and winning the game off it

[Iai]

Well, there's a defender scoring in the 93rd minute to level the tie, only for an opposing attacker to score again in the 94th....

[mph4ever]

that was unreal, young is some boy, villa have really shouted out that they will challenge arsenal and liverpool for 4th

[Pastorius]

Liverpool will have to drop from FIRST PLACE first eh

[TakeWarning]

Seeing a goal of that quality (Sidwell's) only 30 seconds in was so surreal. Usually early goals are so scrappy.

[mph4ever]

Liverpool will have to drop from FIRST PLACE first eh

yeah, you'll get the head staggers soon if you stay up there much longer

[Pastorius]

Meh, rather be getting dizzy at the top of the table than scrapping for 4th place like usual.

[Echleon]

Villa would have a chance for 4th if they had a bigger squad.

I think they have only used something like 18 players throughout the whole campaign. The season is defiently going to take it's toll if they get further in Europe and the Cup too.

[mph4ever]

Meh, rather be getting dizzy at the top of the table than scrapping for 4th place like usual.

i just get the feeling that liverpool fans have a fear of heights.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Villa would have a shot at 4th place if they were good enough. The top four are still clearly a cut above.

[Echleon]

Villa would have a shot at 4th place if they were good enough. The top four are still clearly a cut above.

True, but Arsenal's defense has been pretty suspect as of late.

Having said that, Arsenal are still too good. Villa always bottle it, like losing to Newcastle as they did earlier in the season.

[mph4ever]

both arsenal and liverpool are still a few players away from having a squad

[Pastorius]

Liverpool however, are top of the table.

:D

[poorquality]

Liverpool however, are top of the table.

:D

lol How long will this last :P


Until about mid-jan as normal >_>

[mph4ever]

i hope liverpool last longer than usual this season

robbie to spurs for 5m lol

[Pastorius]

Say what you want you losers, Liverpool are top of the league!

[poorquality]

Wonder what'd be more gutting to Liverpool fans, having all this hype at the moment and slipping into nothing by end of January like previous years, which would be crushing after their amazing start.
Or pressing right up until the final weeks and losing out to Chelsea/United anyway

I do hope they last, anythings better than another 2 horse race.

[mph4ever]

Say what you want you losers, Liverpool are top of the league!

once again i am impressed by your enthusiasm. good for you, a real fan

[badtaste]

Schuster out of Real Madrid, and Juande Ramos in.

lol

[Echleon]

Brave appointment, but I think he'll do well.

Sevilla were awesome when he was in charge.

[Happy]

Schuster out of Real Madrid, and Juande Ramos in.

lol

Haha I thought this was a joke.

ahahahaha

[TakeWarning]

Wahahahaha.

Oh man. Good luck Real.

[badtaste]

Don't even know why they bother with managers at all.

[mph4ever]

spurs made ramos a bad manager, he''ll be fine at real

[2muchket!]

Ermm Ramos is a good manager and will do well at Real as he gets the Spanish game.

[Happy]

spurs made ramos a bad manager, he''ll be fine at real

how

[mph4ever]

because he wasn't suited to the job in england, if he'd have went to newcastle it would have been the same

[2muchket!]

how

He was only given a year in charge to adjust to a style of play he's not familiar with.

Bet if Redknapp went over to manage Sevilla he wouldn't fair too well either.

[Dave de Sylvia]

He probably would have learned to speak Spanish. And not alienated all his players.

[Happy]

I think that's bollocks.

Ramos took over from a team that finished 5th 2 consecutive seasons in a row and managed to finish in 11th. Sure the team weren't doing too well that season anyway and he was new so I'll let that slide.
Getting 2 points from 9 games however, I cannot let slide. How many games do you need to adjust to a different style of football? If Spurs hadn't gotten rid of him, how many points would they be on now 4 or 5?
Also, the fact that he didn't learn English did him no favours, combined to the fact that players were effectively banished from the squad for disagreeing with him.
Sure Comolli did him no favours either, but when you read comments from players stating they have no idea what they're doing and that they go into matches feeling hungry(!) you think that he is not a good manager at all.


That's how I feel as a Spurs fan anyway, I'm sure you'll all disagree but if he was the manager of your team and you came up with results like that, I'm sure you wouldn't be so quick to praise him either.

[mph4ever]

I think that's bollocks.

Ramos took over from a team that finished 5th 2 consecutive seasons in a row and managed to finish in 11th. Sure the team weren't doing too well that season anyway and he was new so I'll let that slide.
Getting 2 points from 9 games however, I cannot let slide. How many games do you need to adjust to a different style of football? If Spurs hadn't gotten rid of him, how many points would they be on now 4 or 5?
Also, the fact that he didn't learn English did him no favours, combined to the fact that players were effectively banished from the squad for disagreeing with him.
Sure Comolli did him no favours either, but when you read comments from players stating they have no idea what they're doing and that they go into matches feeling hungry(!) you think that he is not a good manager at all.


That's how I feel as a Spurs fan anyway, I'm sure you'll all disagree but if he was the manager of your team and you came up with results like that, I'm sure you wouldn't be so quick to praise him either.

did you think jol should have went when he did?

[Happy]

To be honest I wasn't following football back then like I am now.
Honestly, looking back on Jol's bad run up to when he was sacked, it doesn't look too bad compared with Ramos and maybe he shouldn't have gone.

But that said, look how Harry's doing already.

[mph4ever]

sure, but look how jol has done at hamburg and watch how well ramos does in spain.

harry will do ok in his last job, he won't change the order of things in the premiership but he won't have you worried about relegation 5 games into the season

i just think spurs problem is their chairman, has been for the past 20 years or so with sugar and levy but they get to blame everyone else and sack them accordingly

i think spurs supporters are excellent, they de

[Happy]

Yeah, but Jol managed to do well in the EPL, Ramos didn't.

And we're excellent, we de...?

[Pastorius]

Good job Liverpool, with a weak squad.

A good game for all who are feeling a little low on confidence. Ngog got one in a cool manner, Babel proved he can score, Keane put some lovely passes through to Ngog and Babel.

[Echleon]

I think that's bollocks.

Ramos took over from a team that finished 5th 2 consecutive seasons in a row and managed to finish in 11th. Sure the team weren't doing too well that season anyway and he was new so I'll let that slide.
Getting 2 points from 9 games however, I cannot let slide. How many games do you need to adjust to a different style of football? If Spurs hadn't gotten rid of him, how many points would they be on now 4 or 5?
Also, the fact that he didn't learn English did him no favours, combined to the fact that players were effectively banished from the squad for disagreeing with him.
Sure Comolli did him no favours either, but when you read comments from players stating they have no idea what they're doing and that they go into matches feeling hungry(!) you think that he is not a good manager at all.


That's how I feel as a Spurs fan anyway, I'm sure you'll all disagree but if he was the manager of your team and you came up with results like that, I'm sure you wouldn't be so quick to praise him either.

I think it was just a matter that Ramos clearly wasn't suited for English Football. It was defiently right for him to go, as if he wasn't even speaking to the players due to the language barrier then there is obviously a serious problem within.

You can't doubt his pedigree in Spain though. Two UEFA cups on the trot and should have won La Liga in 06/07 with Sevilla if they didn't bottle it so much.

He will do well for Real Madrid, that's for sure.

[mph4ever]

Yeah, but Jol managed to do well in the EPL, Ramos didn't.

And we're excellent, we de...?


.....serve more success given what other big clubs have done. i would always consider spurs to be a bigger club than chelsea or villa or the like

[TakeWarning]

.....serve more success given what other big clubs have done. i would always consider spurs to be a bigger club than chelsea or villa or the like

Indubitably. It's funny, I seem to be under the illusion Chelsea are a big club in recent years because they're doing so well. I wonder if people will think Manchester City are a big club four years from now.

[mph4ever]

looking at chelsea's squad and the players they need to replace shortly then i think they are going to have to spend big all over againt to maintain their status. the resale value of their current squad will not fund much.

i just wonder who city can attract. its only going to be footballers in it for the money, not the shirt

[Interstate]

Arsenal put on a poor performance again. Wenger must be worried. I'm worried and I'm a Arsenal fan.

[mph4ever]

surely you've been worried for a while

[Interstate]

surely you've been worried for a while

Indeed. Stupid fans decided to boo Eboue. Sure he lost possession a few times but so does every player during a game. The fact that we have got so many injuries at the moment doesn't help.