Euro 2008 (Official Man City LOL Thread) [Archive] - Page 83

Surtr

10-13-2008, 02:48 PM

mph4ever

10-13-2008, 02:54 PM

Exactly.

I'm a Motherwell supporter, and I mean, you have to face it, we're not as good as Celtic or Rangers, but all last season I think the fans put one helluva' a difference into what happened. We had some very low points last season, Phil O'Donell dropped her on the pitch and died. And I think in part it was the guys on the team, who had something else to keep 'em going, but without the support that the fans showed, there's no way we could have taken 3rd. A lot of teams would have said "Ok, there goes our best player, now we're done for", but instead the fans said "**** that, lets do this for Phil!"

It makes no sense to just pack it in because you're team is doing poor. They'll only continue that pattern if you continue that style of "support".

my best mates cousin plays for motherwell. jim o'brien, ireland under 21, use to play for celtic, plays mean guitar too. supposed to be going over for a game this season, that, a pint of heavy and a deep fried mars bar. he played for ireland alongside my wifes cousin who broke his leg playing for ireland, doesn't look like he'll make it back, he had a chance, very few make it, those that do deserve support

The_Passenger

10-13-2008, 04:03 PM

within recent times i can remember teams getting boo'd at for their performances. the team that stands out is chelsea. it was disgusting what happened the other night, simple mistake. real supporters wouldn't do it. any england player who done that would have gotten slagged, its the way its gone, its no longer loyal supporters, they are spectators, looking for goals, looking for a high. more like gladiator fans than football fans. and cole has been castigated way to much. there was a professor on sky talking about how much damage this will do to him in the short and long term. c'mon, his team won 5-1, he has forgotten it already, so has his team, but the press and these so called fans haven't. sh!theads, even though i personally don't like cole but i am pretty sure he doesn't give a ****

tbh i'm not sure it would've happened if it were another player, i think people were looking for an excuse to boo him.

for the most part i agree with you though, i just don't understand blaming chelsea. are saying the actions of chelsea fans influence others? that all the booing is started by chelsea fans (something tells me they wouldn't boo lampard...)?

Supporting a bunch of largely over-rated underachievers, who gain place on a team on reputation, rather than recent run of form is as hideous as it gets.

I don't get this attitude. I see this as an excuse all the time, yet if someone's club is going through a bad patch (and if you support a Prem team your players are over-paid) people will say "we have to stick behind the lads to get them out of this". you don't stop supporting your team.

Generally I'm not that patriotic either. One of the main reasons I love supporting Middlesbrough football club is the amount of local born lads coming through and developing into excellent pro's and it's enough to instil (even the most depressive fan like myself ) a lot of ****ing local pride.
The first sentence would be more understandable if it weren't for the sentence at the end, unless you take it far enough to say "I'm not English, I'm a Teesider" or something to that effect

mph4ever

10-13-2008, 04:11 PM

tbh i'm not sure it would've happened if it were another player, i think people were looking for an excuse to boo him.

for the most part i agree with you though, i just don't understand blaming chelsea. are saying the actions of chelsea fans influence others? that all the booing is started by chelsea fans (something tells me they wouldn't boo lampard...)?

coz i hate chelsea kekekekeke

no, its just the other reference point i had for booing recently was for chelsea playing at home and they got booed but that was during grant's time so maybe they had good cause since stamford bridge loved the special one

and cole's a dick anyway. not sure they would dare boo lampard, players like him and gerrard earn respect from other clubs supporters when they are on international duty. cole earns **** loads of money and lets everyone know about it. boo

The_Passenger

10-13-2008, 04:29 PM

coz i hate chelsea kekekekeke

no, its just the other reference point i had for booing recently was for chelsea playing at home and they got booed but that was during grant's time so maybe they had good cause since stamford bridge loved the special one

and cole's a dick anyway. not sure they would dare boo lampard, players like him and gerrard earn respect from other clubs supporters when they are on international duty. cole earns **** loads of money and lets everyone know about it. boo

yeh Chelsea fans booing Grant was a bit of a special case, seriously doubt you'll hear it under Scolari

Frankie

10-13-2008, 08:50 PM

tbh i'm not sure it would've happened if it were another player, i think people were looking for an excuse to boo him.

for the most part i agree with you though, i just don't understand blaming chelsea. are saying the actions of chelsea fans influence others? that all the booing is started by chelsea fans (something tells me they wouldn't boo lampard...)?

I don't get this attitude. I see this as an excuse all the time, yet if someone's club is going through a bad patch (and if you support a Prem team your players are over-paid) people will say "we have to stick behind the lads to get them out of this". you don't stop supporting your team.

The first sentence would be more understandable if it weren't for the sentence at the end, unless you take it far enough to say "I'm not English, I'm a Teesider" or something to that effect

I'm from English, Scottish and Irish descent but I most notably define myself as a Teessider.

You seemed to ignore the bit where I said I'm not much of a patriot but I still love MFC cos I know a lot of the lads who are in the team personally and they spur me on to buy home game after home game ticket.

mph4ever

10-14-2008, 03:12 AM

yeh Chelsea fans booing Grant was a bit of a special case, seriously doubt you'll hear it under Scolari

if they keep getting results then i'd agree. the one that springs to mind was when heskey got the equaliser for wigan. really poor timing to boo a team you want to kick on from a set back like that.

The_Passenger

10-14-2008, 05:02 AM

I'm from English, Scottish and Irish descent but I most notably define myself as a Teessider.

You seemed to ignore the bit where I said I'm not much of a patriot but I still love MFC cos I know a lot of the lads who are in the team personally and they spur me on to buy home game after home game ticket.

You never said you knew anyone personally, just that there were lots of local lads coming through.

Fair enough then, though.

Surtr

10-14-2008, 07:02 AM

my best mates cousin plays for motherwell. jim o'brien, ireland under 21, use to play for celtic, plays mean guitar too. supposed to be going over for a game this season, that, a pint of heavy and a deep fried mars bar. he played for ireland alongside my wifes cousin who broke his leg playing for ireland, doesn't look like he'll make it back, he had a chance, very few make it, those that do deserve support

Mhm, I remember you saying that you're friends cousin played for 'Well. And yeah, being in Canada now you forget how amazing some of these players actually are. I had a friend who played Scottish League footie, which is hilarious sounding to a lot of people, I mean the Premiership is laughed at enough. But my god was he tremendous to play against.

TakeWarning

10-14-2008, 07:10 AM

Mhm, I remember you saying that you're friends cousin played for 'Well. And yeah, being in Canada now you forget how amazing some of these players actually are. I had a friend who played Scottish League footie, which is hilarious sounding to a lot of people, I mean the Premiership is laughed at enough. But my god was he tremendous to play against.

Whilst we're claiming things, my ex-girlfriend's cousin plays for Bolton. Joey O'Brien.

Pastorius

10-14-2008, 10:51 AM

Gazza Bale was in the year below be at school. I played football against him a few times on the school field

Frankie

10-14-2008, 11:23 AM

Groundsy went to my old school few years above and I've played against a few of the academy players who are looking to push through.

The_Passenger

10-14-2008, 05:36 PM

ha, my claim to football fame is that a guy who was in my year at school (never had much to do with him though) now has a squad number at PAFC (28, Shane White). He hasn't made his first team debut though as far as I'm aware

Britney Diva

10-14-2008, 05:42 PM

Gazza Bale was in the year below be at school. I played football against him a few times on the school field
And now he plays for Spurs. At least you've made a success of your life!

I went to school with Anthony Stokes. I never thought he was that good to be honest and I turned out to be right!

So United's Darron Gibson is set to start for Ireland tomorrow against Cyprus alongside Glenn Whelan. Not sure if I'm ok with two reserve players in the middle of the park, but small nation and all that I suppose.

mph4ever

10-15-2008, 02:14 AM

gibson. saw that. it'll be interesting again since trap says that he only ever wants to change small things at time, in other words, gibson is his direct replacement for reid. i can't wait to have a look at him on a stage like this. should spur o'shea on a little too

mph4ever

10-15-2008, 04:25 AM

Gazza Bale was in the year below be at school. I played football against him a few times on the school field

dp but i missed this one

many monkeys in your school then?

Pastorius

10-15-2008, 04:48 AM

if you've ever seen a picture of me you might think it was all monkeys

badtaste

10-15-2008, 05:38 AM

Gazza Bale was in the year below be at school. I played football against him a few times on the school field

Wow, that's pretty awesome.

mph4ever

10-15-2008, 06:01 AM

if you've ever seen a picture of me you might think it was all monkeys

a nice one to have in the scrap book

TakeWarning

10-15-2008, 09:12 AM

Gazza Bale was in the year below be at school. I played football against him a few times on the school field

You win this one. I think in 5 years time he'll be one of the best left-backs in the world.

Pastorius

10-15-2008, 09:31 AM

Apparently Liverpool are after him for the Jan transfer market, I'd absolutely love that.

Bale > Dossena

mph4ever

10-15-2008, 10:25 AM

well, i can't see anyone jumping ship at tottenham

*remembers keane and berbatov :amaze:

mph4ever

10-15-2008, 03:59 PM

ireland win, commentatoors thought it was crap but from where we have been in the last two campaigns then i would say we should be happy all round

going to watch the england highlights now, heard they were good in the second half

Frankie

10-15-2008, 04:21 PM

Rooney put in a decent performance 2nd half and we were half decent tbh.

Still could've put 4 past 'em so thats a good sign.

Britney Diva

10-15-2008, 04:35 PM

So United's Darron Gibson is set to start for Ireland tomorrow against Cyprus alongside Glenn Whelan. Not sure if I'm ok with two reserve players in the middle of the park, but small nation and all that I suppose.
I guess that answers that I suppose. Massive flashbacks to the Steve Staunton days, being pinned back for entire halves against what could charitably be described as poor teams. Playing two inexperienced yokels in centre midfield clearly didn't work and he refused to change the team to get a handle on the game, which is worrying for the future. On the plus side, Duff and McGeady were outstanding in the first half particularly- and the goal was truly world class- and if we can attack like that in future we will surely pull a few results out.

Gerrard's goal was ridiculous.

mph4ever

10-15-2008, 06:32 PM

we look good up front. mcshane and the donkey may go.

sgrevs

10-16-2008, 12:25 AM

Apparently Liverpool are after him for the Jan transfer market, I'd absolutely love that.

Bale > Dossena

This would definitely be nice.

RandyfromPennywise

10-16-2008, 09:39 AM

all this booing, its not from real supporters, i blame chelsea and the new breed of supporter they have introduced to football

Ok, so I have read your posts since this, and have simmered down a little. You almost admit that this comment of yours above is a complete load of shyte, so I won't go ranting off again. If have watched basically every Chelsea game for the past eight years (have probably missed a dozen, due to being overseas, no League Cup coverage back a few years etc. etc., the night matches being on a 4.30am in the morning (although I always get up)) and have heard the Chelsea fans boo at no one in particular - well, probably Roman and Peter K. - twice. Cannot remember more than that. I have NEVER heard us boo one of our own players, or if I have, I certainly can't remember it, and you would think I would remember something like that, init. So, there.

Gerrard's goal was ridiculousWhy? It was a placed shot from 20 yards, hardly the stuff of legend I'd've thought...???

Just got home from Brisbane, went to the match last night. **** there was the craziest storm 30 mins before kick-off, lightning hit the stadium and all, match was delayed for 30 mins. Qatar were absolutely pish. They haven't lost to any other team in their last 10 World Cup qualifiers, yet Australia have now beaten them 3-0, 3-1 and 4-0 in the last three times the teams have met. We dominated completely, and the game was over after Timmy Cahill scored following a very nice build-up after nine minutes. A double from Brett Emmo, one a really class finish, and a header from Josh Jesus Kennedy rounded off a great night. Was great to see the 'Roos again, haven't seen them since the best night in the history of the world. (Also known as November 16, 2005, Stadium Australia.)

Reckon Australia are the best team in Asia, and we'll make South Africa, and could go ok, again.

badtaste

10-16-2008, 10:30 AM

Good to hear that you had a splash of a time, AHAWHAW.

So much better these days now that we get to play more competent teams, rather than having our B team thrash the minnows of Oceania and then go through a nerve racking time against Uruguay.

mph4ever

10-16-2008, 11:27 AM

Ok, so I have read your posts since this, and have simmered down a little. You almost admit that this comment of yours above is a complete load of shyte, so I won't go ranting off again. If have watched basically every Chelsea game for the past eight years (have probably missed a dozen, due to being overseas, no League Cup coverage back a few years etc. etc., the night matches being on a 4.30am in the morning (although I always get up)) and have heard the Chelsea fans boo at no one in particular - well, probably Roman and Peter K. - twice. Cannot remember more than that. I have NEVER heard us boo one of our own players, or if I have, I certainly can't remember it, and you would think I would remember something like that, init. So, there.

it was just a little banter. thats all. :naughty:

Why? It was a placed shot from 20 yards, hardly the stuff of legend I'd've thought...???

its was a very good goal, more like 30+ yards out and in the bottom corner, classic gerrard.

Happy

10-16-2008, 03:28 PM

I've been playing FIFA 06 lately (lol) and I've gotten Scunthorpe into the Premiership + they're European Champions :D

Is that allowed in here anyway?

Surtr

10-16-2008, 03:35 PM

Its Football, even if its just a game, so **** yeah. I miss having the time to properly play Football Manager '08. That's all I did during the summer, but now that Uni. is taking up literally ALL my time, I've not gotten the chance to do so.

Happy

10-16-2008, 03:39 PM

That's a shame man. I hope the new FIFA game's good. I plan on buying it when it comes out.

Surtr

10-16-2008, 03:45 PM

I've been trying to download FIFA '08 but I can't find a proper torrent. And I'd buy '09 but it won't run on my laptop and I don't own a console system. :(

Happy

10-16-2008, 03:46 PM

That's where the PS3 comes in useful from time to time hahaha.
I will make Scunthorpe the best team in the world on '09 too.

Surtr

10-16-2008, 03:54 PM

Oh rub it in. :(

I had Motherwell win the league 2 seasons in a row, the Scottish Cup 1 year, UEFA Cup 1 year and went 34 games without losing in the SPL, when I had the time to play Football Manager '08.

Shame I couldn't manage the team now, we're doing poor in real life. :(

mph4ever

10-16-2008, 03:59 PM

i'm a pes fan. looking forward to 2009. played it since he days of iis pro evo. still like fifa but not sure whether i should get '09.

Happy

10-16-2008, 03:59 PM

Seriously, its collecting dust lately seeing as everything is so expensive.

But I doubt Motherwell are doing as bad as Spurs lol.

Speaking of Spurs, I pretty much transferred the best players in the world to them in FIFA 06 too so I could be like "lol u can't beat my Spurs team" when my mates came round.

Pastorius

10-16-2008, 04:06 PM

It sucks that you have to pay for the player stat update thing on FIFA

Happy

10-16-2008, 04:07 PM

What's that?

Pastorius

10-16-2008, 04:12 PM

They have a team of people who assess every player in the premier's form and update their stats accordingly each week. So you can choose to have an updated set of stats.

Happy

10-16-2008, 04:18 PM

Sounds cool but I can see the downsides of that plus if anything it should be free.

Pastorius

10-16-2008, 04:27 PM

Yeah the downsides is you can't construct a team to your liking if someone goes off form. But I'm sure you can turn it off.

Definitely not worth paying for.

Happy

10-16-2008, 04:29 PM

well anyway, I've decided to buy '09 tomorrow. I'll keep the receipt in case its crap.

mph4ever

10-16-2008, 04:52 PM

love to hear your opinion. bloke on another board has said it is brilliant

Happy

10-16-2008, 04:53 PM

Certainly looks brilliant with its flashy graphics.
The Scunthorpe team will look extremely sexy I hope.

Plus the first thing I will do will be to bring Berba, Keane and Defoe back to spurs.

badtaste

10-16-2008, 08:07 PM

I'm pretty sure that's the deal with the FIFA games, excellent graphics, licensed teams, but arcade-like (really easy) gameplay. PES has recently gone down the crapper as well.

Surtr

10-16-2008, 08:48 PM

To be honest, if my stupid friend's roommate would move his 360 back down to my room (He recently took it upstairs despite not having a tv, the tool) I'd go out and buy FIFA 09. I've already bought a few games for it that I intend to sell if he doesn't bring it back down here... That or buy a 360 or hope my parents would buy me one for Christmas.

RandyfromPennywise

10-16-2008, 09:58 PM

it was just a little banter. thats all. :naughty:

its was a very good goal, more like 30+ yards out and in the bottom corner, classic gerrard.

Yeah, got ya, ya bastad.

And I mean yeah it was a good goal, but just wondering why Spat Out Sexy Men called it ridiculous. I mean it wouldn't even be in the top half-a-dozen goals scored in the Prem this season so far.

mph4ever

10-17-2008, 03:14 AM

yeah maybe not, leave that to dave, ****ed if i am going to talk a scouser up too much

mph4ever

10-17-2008, 08:17 AM

stephen reid out for the season - forget blackburn, ireland need to think about their options. i liked the look of gibson, i wonder could he play holding midfielder, although he would want some games with manu first team to justify. maybe andy reid could be his partner.

interesting times

sgrevs

10-17-2008, 08:22 AM

Does everyone/anyone know the site footytube? It's like youtube but just for soccer videos. It's pretty sweet, I always find highlights that I've missed on there.

mph4ever

10-17-2008, 09:01 AM

never heard of it, had a look, seems great but the vids don't play for me :(

found this though, its NSFW but it is funny, play the commercial video from footytube http://www.nicomarket.com/en/nicocalm.php

and i'm guessing you have all seen this, but just in case

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9RsQg1dnwiY

sgrevs

10-17-2008, 09:07 AM

Couldn't find the first video, second one was awesome. Very well done.

"It's ok, we still have Wes Brown."

mph4ever

10-17-2008, 09:48 AM

robbo gets to grips with the new england set up and it all makes sense, although i am not too sure if cheryl were standing naked in front of the tv that i'd brush her and continue to watch motd.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2008/10/the_end_of_the_sad_lads_and_th.html

Surtr

10-17-2008, 11:10 AM

That second video made me laugh my arse off. And I sent it to my girlfriend, who said she didn't get it, but the person sitting next to here in class burst out laughing lol.

TakeWarning

10-17-2008, 10:55 PM

My personal youtube footy faves:

Stupid football players - Phil neville

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWAAUIWCmsc

Premier league dressing room (Harry and Paul)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-vIR3LRUFM

Put it where you want it - Remi Gaillard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFsHPFhtEYQ

Happy

10-18-2008, 01:28 AM

So I bought FIFA 09, I've only had time to play the create a professional mode or whatever it is where you control one player on the pitch. I didn't really like it much, but then it could be because I have no clue what to do and I'm not actually doing anything 80% of the time. :-/

808

10-18-2008, 01:57 AM

What console?

RandyfromPennywise

10-18-2008, 03:17 AM

That video with the guy kicking the balls around Paris, that was good.

Chelsea v BORO tonight. This thread gets renamed with the name of the side who wins.

poorquality

10-18-2008, 05:36 AM

That video with the guy kicking the balls around Paris, that was good.

Chelsea v BORO tonight. This thread gets renamed with the name of the side who wins.

I agree, I like the current name too :)

TakeWarning

10-18-2008, 05:48 AM

Wouldn't be so sure just yet Randy.

Boro always raise their game against the big four ;)

rid

10-18-2008, 07:59 AM

I'm a bit worried Liverpool will lose points today. It's too typical...

poorquality

10-18-2008, 08:03 AM

Fecking hell, Boro are terrible. It's not even a case of Chelsea playing spectacularly (they're playing well obv, nothing special though), someone needs to teach boro some basic marking techniques, Beletti had way too much time to place his shot, no marking, no-one closing him down.

Boro are a mess...

Happy

10-18-2008, 08:09 AM

What console?

Ps3

LOL @ BORO

poorquality

10-18-2008, 08:40 AM

That's an absolutely shocking defensive performance from boro, no closing down, no marking...against any team you're looking for a beating, but Chelsea? ffs, easy work, stroll in the park...training ground game.

The_Passenger

10-18-2008, 08:41 AM

awesome game don't you agree Frankie?

RandyfromPennywise

10-18-2008, 08:56 AM

Welcome to the Official Frank Lampard Thread.

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 08:57 AM

men and boys, literally

poorquality

10-18-2008, 08:57 AM

I agree with randy >_> the thread name should change to fit the team who beats the current one...so now it should be the Chelsea thread, next week it should be the Liverpool thread etc

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 08:59 AM

Welcome to the Official Frank Lampard Thread.

ah no, not fair to call it after a player

RandyfromPennywise

10-18-2008, 09:00 AM

Liverpool are not going to beat Chelsea next week. I laugh at the thought of people thinking that they will.

Belletti only does special goals.

Watching Bremen against Dortmund at the moment, pretty decent match. Might switch back to the Prem later, but this is good stuff at the moment. Diego is absolutely class. I'm a Dortmund fan.

ah no, not fair to call it after a player
Lampard is more than just a player though. He could beat most teams in the league on his own. Certainly better than Gayrrard. :)

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 09:06 AM

Lampard is more than just a player though. He could beat most teams in the league on his own. Certainly better than Gayrrard. :)

i can't see it.

silvestre makes his start for gooners today, thats the possession football finished

RandyfromPennywise

10-18-2008, 09:14 AM

You don't watch closely enough then!

poorquality

10-18-2008, 09:20 AM

Lampards certainly done better than Gerrard so far this season in all comps inc. Internationals. He's found his old form of the 05 season (is it 05?).

RandyfromPennywise

10-18-2008, 09:25 AM

Yeah 2005 he was runner-up World Player of the Year.

Early goal to Osman against the Arse.

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 09:29 AM

You don't watch closely enough then!

perhaps not. outside of us chelsea have only played villa. can't really rate him this season until chelsea meet some more serious opposition. next week will be interesting

Britney Diva

10-18-2008, 09:36 AM

Liverpool are getting dominated by Wigan right now. The Zaki lad is hot ****.

The_Passenger

10-18-2008, 09:37 AM

and so many people on this forum were questioning why Skrtel was in the team ahead of Agger (me included)

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 09:40 AM

agger saves the day!

The_Passenger

10-18-2008, 09:43 AM

tsk then he goes and provides an assist

i guess that's why

Britney Diva

10-18-2008, 09:43 AM

haha well Agger just showed exactly why he should be in the team. In the last 10 minutes he's given Liverpool more width than they've shown in the past 2 years combined, and he's a centre half!

The goal was a bad error but he has been out a long time. I'm sure he will improve in the coming weeks.

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 09:51 AM

wondergoal - zaki's second

Britney Diva

10-18-2008, 09:53 AM

I'm sure even Tommy Rutherford will agree that that one was ridiculous.

RandyfromPennywise

10-18-2008, 09:56 AM

perhaps not. outside of us chelsea have only played villa. can't really rate him this season until chelsea meet some more serious opposition. next week will be interesting

Villa, Pompey (twice), City, Spurs, Bordeaux. You're right in saying that we have only played United out of the top four, but all of those which we have played teams did well last season. If we only judge players on their performances against the teams in the top four, then it's a pretty limited and skewed view. There's 60 games a season.

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 10:07 AM

Villa, Pompey (twice), City, Spurs, Bordeaux. You're right in saying that we have only played United out of the top four, but all of those which we have played teams did well last season. If we only judge players on their performances against the teams in the top four, then it's a pretty limited and skewed view. There's 60 games a season.

agreed, completely. but i wouldn't be so quick to say he is showing the form from '05 until we see him over a longer period. lampard is a very good player. its whether or not he can carry the sort of form he is showing and perform in the biggest of games. it will interesting what happens to him when ballack, deco, and maybe essien at some stage, are fit and imposing themselves on games

The_Passenger

10-18-2008, 10:10 AM

Villa, Pompey (twice), City, Spurs, Bordeaux. You're right in saying that we have only played United out of the top four, but all of those which we have played teams did well last season. If we only judge players on their performances against the teams in the top four, then it's a pretty limited and skewed view. There's 60 games a season.

Spurs are cack and Bordeaux would probably be sat in the bottom 5 in the Premier League if that 'performance' at Stamford Bridge is anything to go by. Otherwise I agree that Chelsea haven't exactly had easy opposition.

RandyfromPennywise

10-18-2008, 10:12 AM

Yeah that's true as well, I think it's probably worth noting that he has once again been the main man in SW6, with Deco, Ballack and Essien all injured, and he's been thriving. Deco back now shouldn't make a difference to Lampard as he was playing well when Deco was also playing (well), but with a full squad to choose from, it'd be interesting to see how it impacts on his form.

Zaki's second was awesome. Just got him in to my Fantasy team (still #1, thankyou thankyou) so fkn better not get injured in the 2nd half!

poorquality

10-18-2008, 10:16 AM

Apparently Sunderland just got absolutely robbed, direct freekick flew into the net and the ref disallowed it saying a sunderland player was pushing someone in the wall.

Surtr

10-18-2008, 10:25 AM

I've just put Zaki on my team too.

My whole team took a whole re-hash as I'm at the bottom of all my leagues. :(

I've got the rest of the season to slowly catch up though. I'm hoping for a Top 10 Finish in this head-to-head league.

poorquality

10-18-2008, 10:38 AM

The_Passenger

10-18-2008, 10:40 AM

Valencia had already been booked though, the challenge was definitely a yellow, I don't think that one's very controversial.

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 10:47 AM

oh liverpool

poorquality

10-18-2008, 10:48 AM

Fair enough, I'm only going based on what the lads on SSN are saying, reckons he won the ball.

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 10:52 AM

i hate phil thompson and i just love the way ssn don't give him liverpool games

The_Passenger

10-18-2008, 10:56 AM

Fair enough, I'm only going based on what the lads on SSN are saying, reckons he won the ball.

the guys on sky sports are idiots tbh, cept Stelling

i mean merson must be employed out of pity

Britney Diva

10-18-2008, 10:56 AM

Now apparently Wigan have been screwed with Valencia being sent off for a challenge deemed a lunge where he won the ball first.

Was second yellow, so they're saying it shouldn't of even been a foul, all depends on what sort of tackle it was I guess.
It should have been a straight red; he could have broken his leg. And I don't think he was anywhere near the ball either.

RandyfromPennywise

10-18-2008, 11:02 AM

I'm sure even Tommy Rutherford will agree that that one was ridiculous.

Dude stop changing your user name! What did your user names used to be before Spat Out Plath, I might remember you from the old days.

Three nil-nils, bit crap. Fellaini looks a good player. Anyone know why Cahill didn't play? He was very good for Australia on Wednesday, apart from the flight home I reckon he should've played. Toffees could've got a point if they had the great Aussie Timmy C I reckon.

Bremen Dortmund finished 3-3, cracking match, three goals in the last five minutes. Pizarro double in the last five.

808

10-18-2008, 11:13 AM

Cahill is suspended, I think.

rid

10-18-2008, 11:15 AM

it was a red card for valencia, no doubt.

great comeback once again for Liverpool, but we need to start getting some easier wins and perhaps a 3-0 match sometime. can't imagine we can play like this the whole season.

Britney Diva

10-18-2008, 11:16 AM

Cahill got a three match ban for his tackle against Liverpool

p.s. unless I'm remembering wrong, doesn't this make Valencia the third player in three matchdays to be sent off for a dangerous lunge on Xabi Alonso?

Dude stop changing your user name! What did your user names used to be before Spat Out Plath, I might remember you from the old days.
I was Grateful Dead before, but then I changed it because people kept thinking I like that ****. Then I was HENDRIX=GOD420 for a bit.

rid

10-18-2008, 11:19 AM

p.s. unless I'm remembering wrong, doesn't this make Valencia the third player in three matchdays to be sent off for a dangerous lunge on Xabi Alonso?

yup! think somebody else did earlier in the season as well.

RandyfromPennywise

10-18-2008, 11:38 AM

Cahill got a three match ban for his tackle against Liverpool

Ah yes, the old red card.

p.s. unless I'm remembering wrong, doesn't this make Valencia the third player in three matchdays to be sent off for a dangerous lunge on Xabi Alonso?
But Lampard's the only one who's broken his ankle. And he wasn't even trying to. Lamps doesn't even need to try and he succeeds.

I was Grateful Dead before, but then I changed it because people kept thinking I like that ****. Then I was HENDRIX=GOD420 for a bit.

Think Grateful Dead rings bells. Deadhead yeah. Well people still think that Pennywise must be one of my favourite bands, but yeah.

Ghoul Hunter

10-18-2008, 01:32 PM

http://www.adverblog.com/archives/img/rooney.jpg

in other news, SOP, that avatar is glorious.

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 01:35 PM

slowly, slowly, catchy monkey

united are creeping up the table, top four resume their place for the first time this season.

Ghoul Hunter

10-18-2008, 01:40 PM

it's fantastic to see them getting things back in order. for a while they looked really rough.

Britney Diva

10-18-2008, 01:42 PM

Took us a long while to get going (referee didn't help disallowing Rooney's goal) but a good win in the end. It's essential to win matches like that in a canter when Chelsea are hammering anyone who comes near.

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 01:50 PM

makes for interesting times. celtic up next.

i think they all showed their intentions today

Pastorius

10-18-2008, 05:05 PM

so i'm guessing you guys have been complaining about how liverpool can't win without someone getting sent off?

bull

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 06:03 PM

****

Surtr

10-18-2008, 06:56 PM

S'cause Liv'Pool are a poor team.

Haha ahh kiddingg.

Nah, Liv'Pool are better than Arsenal and especially Chelski. **** 'em.

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 07:02 PM

next week should tell some tales

rid

10-18-2008, 07:18 PM

of course I hope for 3 points, but I think we will draw against Chelsea next week. Losing is not an option!!

Eh, they will win the league this year.

mph4ever

10-18-2008, 07:58 PM

not sure. europe is going to be huge on their minds after the way they lost it last year

sgrevs

10-18-2008, 10:02 PM

^^Definitely. Still, they are looking pretty damn fine at the moment, as are United. Unfortunately, I can't see Liverpool keeping up with them too much further than Christmas.

I'm going to be in England in Dec/Jan, and I'm looking to go to some Liverpool games (prefererably the ones vs Hull and Everton). How should I go about getting tickets while I'm in Australia? Where should I book?

RandyfromPennywise

10-18-2008, 11:37 PM

Hey mate, I've been to four matches in England, three times at Chelsea and once at Newcastle. For two Chelsea matches, I went on to the discussion boards on the official site and asked if anyone would be able to buy me a ticket and I'd meet up with them and pay them for it, and luckily enough both times I was lucky and good people did that for me, and was no problem. The other time was an FA Cup replay so just got tickets from the box office which was good, and the Newcastle match, my brother ordered them on the net a month in advance. Guess if you want to go to Anfield, you'd need to know what the deal is with ticketing, like at Chelsea, it's a bit of a gamble trying to get general admission tickets because they only go on sale a few days before a game (if at all), so for us - going all that way - it's better to have some kind of assurance that you're going to get a ticket. So yeah this might not've helped too much but this is what I did.

mph4ever

10-19-2008, 06:04 AM

only way get tickets without borrowing someone else's season ticket is to book through a travel agent and take a flight or hotel or ferry or bus and the ticket is inluded. often we end up meeting someone at old trafford and they give us their season ticket and we give it back after the game.

there are lots of season ticket holders around here also so sometimes you can get them to lend you their ticket for a consideration. are there forums with people on them willing to let their season tickets out for a price on the day?

RandyfromPennywise

10-19-2008, 07:05 AM

mph4ever I assume you are just talking about United, because you can get tickets to most grounds without too much fuss. United is hard, from what my brother has told me.

The way it works with Chelsea for home matches is that season ticket holders get their seats, then most of the rest go on sale to members - there are many, many more members than seats available, but not every member wants to go to every game. Then if there are any tickets left over, they go on sale to the public.

First time I went to Chelsea, a bloke called Nick gave me his season ticket for £40 and I used that to go to the match. Then I mailed the ticket back to him a day later. Guess that was pretty trusting of him to let me do that. The second time, a girl member bought one extra ticket for me and I met her at the ground and paid her the dosh.

Not sure how it works at Anfield though.

Adelaide United now equal top of the A-League after massive upsets including Sydney losing to Perth. Get in. Now for the massive match on Wednesday in Tashkent.

TakeWarning

10-19-2008, 07:26 AM

Adelaide United now equal top of the A-League after massive upsets including Sydney losing to Perth. Get in. Now for the massive match on Wednesday in Tashkent.

Sydney were pretty rubbish, they must have the slowest centreback pairing in the league. Glory could've put four past them if it weren't for poor finishing.

mph4ever

10-19-2008, 09:09 AM

yeah, manu only for the purpose of this discussion

pity we couldn't get a-league coverage over here. what are we talking about? championship standard?

mph4ever

10-19-2008, 09:18 AM

courtesy of the bbc

"Did you read about Juande Ramos in the tabloids? He got flashed by a speed camera on the M25. Apparently he was just so desperate for three points."

Frankie

10-19-2008, 09:19 AM

I've only just stopped crying over the boro result tbh.

Haven't seen the highlights and don't want to.

mph4ever

10-19-2008, 10:18 AM

hull up again, manu out of top four, by hull

RandyfromPennywise

10-19-2008, 10:22 AM

Gareth Bale is wearing one of those hair clips that girls wear. Deserved to get sent off for being such a dick.

talk show host

10-19-2008, 10:22 AM

spurs down to ten men, 20 minutes in

RandyfromPennywise

10-19-2008, 10:24 AM

yeah, manu only for the purpose of this discussion

pity we couldn't get a-league coverage over here. what are we talking about? championship standard?

I think you do get the highlights show on some channel, somewhere. When my brother lived in Scotland he used to tape the highlights show. Hard to say about the standard, probably bottom half Championship & top half League One but really, that's just a guess.

mph4ever

10-19-2008, 10:28 AM

I think you do get the highlights show on some channel, somewhere. When my brother lived in Scotland he used to tape the highlights show. Hard to say about the standard, probably bottom half Championship & top half League One but really, that's just a guess.

i like championship and league one a lot. real football. no holding back. i think we might get a half hour show weekly where the j and a leagues are covered, but not a lot

maybe fergie is after gareth bale because of his hair, seems to be a thing with manu players these days

Britney Diva

10-19-2008, 11:03 AM

Gareth Bale will probably be one of the top 3 full-backs in the world in a few years is why Fergie is after him. He was really weak today- the penalty was created by him.

Happy

10-19-2008, 11:36 AM

Will Spurs win a game this season?

Or are they looking to beat Derby's record?

RandyfromPennywise

10-19-2008, 11:51 AM

Any team captained by Jermaine Jenas deserves to win **** all.

Happy

10-19-2008, 11:52 AM

I hope Ramos dies.

mph4ever

10-19-2008, 11:54 AM

Any team captained by Jermaine Jenas deserves to win **** all.

hehehehe

RandyfromPennywise

10-19-2008, 11:58 AM

That penalty was as amazing as Richardson's free-kick against Schwarzer yesterday. For those who didn't see, it hit both posts, then rebounded to Delap who smashed it against the bar.

The_Passenger

10-19-2008, 12:04 PM

how long til the bookies stop taking bets on Ramos being sacked?

rid

10-19-2008, 12:14 PM

til he gets sacked.

mph4ever

10-19-2008, 12:35 PM

i'm not sure he deserves the sack. hes got a whole new team, big changes and he is trying to put it together. they should give him until christmas since if it is really the managers fault then someone big will come in and save them for the second half of the season.

poorquality

10-19-2008, 12:38 PM

Problem is, if they do decide to sack him, as fickle footballing management is these days, the person coming in would only have the same squad to work with, and who are they gonna get that's better than Ramos in their current state?

Britney Diva

10-19-2008, 12:51 PM

Well he has a whole new team because he sold all his good players and brought in inferior replacements. His defence is still rubbish, too, which any fule no was the thing that needed attention before anything else.

The_Passenger

10-19-2008, 02:01 PM

how much input does ramos have into transfer dealings? i'm not sure whether tottenham's failure to deal with their most glaring problems is down to him or comolli

mph4ever

10-19-2008, 02:13 PM

i honestly thought he was building a superior team, just hasn't clicked yet. i hope they give him enough time

The_Passenger

10-19-2008, 02:47 PM

holy crap Ibrahimovic has scored twice in a big game

next thing you know spurs will be winning league games

mph4ever

10-19-2008, 03:06 PM

thats just ridiculous

Interstate

10-19-2008, 03:33 PM

courtesy of the bbc

"Did you read about Juande Ramos in the tabloids? He got flashed by a speed camera on the M25. Apparently he was just so desperate for three points."

Haha, that's brilliant.

mph4ever

10-19-2008, 03:53 PM

ok, but its only a laugh

"What's the difference between Tottenham and a samosa? A samosa has three points!"

Pastorius

10-19-2008, 04:44 PM

What is wrong with Spurs.

Although saying that, Stoke must be pretty amazing to draw at Anfield, so give them their dues.

badtaste

10-20-2008, 01:50 AM

So I'm jumping on the Hull bandwagon.

and lol Spurs.

TakeWarning

10-20-2008, 02:30 AM

mph4ever

10-20-2008, 04:13 AM

Do you not follow football or something? Only, that's one of the stupidest things I've heard in a while.

of course i follow football. people should be given a chance. too much knee jerk reaction.

TakeWarning

10-20-2008, 05:00 AM

poorquality

10-20-2008, 05:05 AM

of course i follow football. people should be given a chance. too much knee jerk reaction.

I agree,

Jol got sacked the season after he got them 5th spot, there's high expectations -_-

Who are spurs honestly going to get who will do better than Ramos? He's an experienced manager and needs time, and no top manager will want to take spurs on especially if the chairmen shows an itchy trigger finger as far as sackings go.

Don't they used a director of football? I'm fairly sure redknapp said it yesterday. If so it's him they need rid of, selling star players and bringing in practically nothing to replace them, Pavlychenko is/was unproven in the prem, and the russian players have history of not adapting here, and Campbell on loan, which was only a softener for losing Berbatov after all the talk of keeping him.

I never thought I'd ever want to agree with Jamie Redknapp but he's right, United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea...the most successful english teams of the last 13 years, none of which have a director of football. I'm fairly sure those managers would walk if their chairmen did hire a director of football..

This sort of went off on one against directors of football...but it's still spurs related >_> feck it, lets just have a moan against directors of football.

mph4ever

10-20-2008, 08:00 AM

He's been at Spurs a year now. He's been allowed time to form his own squad, and has spent a pretty ridiculous amount of money. He inherited a squad that finished 5th in the two season consecutive seasons before Ramos arrived, and for one reason or another we're sitting in last place and are struggling to get a point off Stoke City.

But maybe he just needs more time. :rolleyes:

i know its frustrating. perhaps they are thinking that to break into the top four, and not be annual uefa cup hopefuls, they feel they need to fundamentally change the squad and how it goes about its business. perhaps that was not ramos' call but the director of football, or sporting director, comoli. perhaps it is the need of management and shareholders to get some of the £30m profit Spurs made this year.

heres a good piece from the independent.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/spurs-face-football-meltdown-965312.html

RandyfromPennywise

10-20-2008, 12:40 PM

losing Berbatov after all the talk of keeping him.

I never thought I'd ever want to agree with Jamie Redknapp but he's right, United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea...the most successful english teams of the last 13 years, none of which have a director of football. I'm fairly sure those managers would walk if their chairmen did hire a director of football..

This sort of went off on one against directors of football...but it's still spurs related >_> feck it, lets just have a moan against directors of football.

Frank Arnesen is "Sporting Director" at Chelsea, whatever that means. He's like a scout who recommends signings, and is good with the youngsters. But I think you're right, the strong, commanding managers of the big clubs just wouldn't stand for any mingling with their affairs - and the players are the affairs of the gaffer. Guys like Mourinho, Scolari, Ferguson, Wenger, they run their ships.

The_Passenger

10-20-2008, 01:45 PM

I don't think Arnesen has as much say in Chelsea's dealings as Comolli does in Spurs' though. If it is the case that he's the one handling the signings at Spurs I feel a bit sorry for Ramos.

mph4ever

10-20-2008, 02:26 PM

don't spurs have history of this. david pleat was there, arnesen, comolli. they do it for continuity since they expect to change manager often

RandyfromPennywise

10-20-2008, 03:28 PM

Newcastle 2-1 up, Dunno O.G..

Just feels like Newcastle might win this.

Is Alex Bruce any good?

Britney Diva

10-20-2008, 03:39 PM

Newcastle can't really lose considering City haven't been able to make a chance since getting a man advantage.

ashman

10-20-2008, 03:43 PM

So I'm jumping on the Hull bandwagon.

and lol Spurs.

hull4lyfe

I've been supporting Hull since the old Division 3 days, this current run of awesomeness is the best thing to happen to this god forsaken city which I live in :eek:

Happy

10-21-2008, 04:58 AM

Bilic has been linked to Spurs but says he won't go...
I just wish...

Pastorius

10-21-2008, 07:45 AM

And Pastorius jumps to 5th in the MX league even with 12 points deduction for subs.

1st here I come

TakeWarning

10-21-2008, 08:12 AM

Bilic has been linked to Spurs but says he won't go...
I just wish...

Ramos said he wouldn't come this time last year...

badtaste

10-21-2008, 08:14 AM

hull4lyfe

I've been supporting Hull since the old Division 3 days, this current run of awesomeness is the best thing to happen to this god forsaken city which I live in :eek:

Good for you man. Must feel pretty damn swell.

808

10-21-2008, 08:40 AM

I am pretty sure Celtic will win it tonight.

Surtr

10-21-2008, 08:51 AM

I don't know.

I'm maybe placing my money on United. Celtic have some key guys out, and the United line up still looks quite strong.

The_Passenger

10-21-2008, 08:55 AM

I am pretty sure Celtic will win it tonight.

what makes you say that

poorquality

10-21-2008, 09:07 AM

Celtic 1-3 United

You heard it here first >_>

Britney Diva

10-21-2008, 10:29 AM

lol @ Celtic not losing an away match

RandyfromPennywise

10-21-2008, 11:16 AM

hull4lyfe

I've been supporting Hull since the old Division 3 days, this current run of awesomeness is the best thing to happen to this god forsaken city which I live in :eek:

That's pretty awesome mate, must be loving it.

And Pastorius jumps to 5th in the MX league even with 12 points deduction for subs.

1st here I come
Err, don't think so. :)

Pastorius

10-21-2008, 11:22 AM

Just restructured my team to get rid of Babel, Hreidarrson, Bentley, in comes Deco, Delap, Kuyt.

Also last week I transferred Zaki instead of Alves the day before the Liverpool match. NUMBER ONE HERE I COME

Britney Diva

10-21-2008, 12:00 PM

I almost almost within 50 points of Randy again!

Britney Diva

10-21-2008, 01:00 PM

Zenit 0 - 1 BATE with 15 minutes remaining in St. Petersburg.

RandyfromPennywise

10-21-2008, 01:05 PM

I have a 50-point buffer at the top of the league. That is amazing. I didn't realise (how good I am).

RandyfromPennywise

10-21-2008, 02:54 PM

Juve just gone two up against Real, Real not offering much, Sneijder taking shots from 40 yards being about their best efforts. Del Piero's goal in the fifth minute was a nice one.

Surtr

10-21-2008, 03:15 PM

My teams amazing, and all my players are doing really well, but I'm at the bottom of the league. I'm at a loss. :(

I also can't get the Celtic v. United match to work, which I'm sour about. I hate how unreliable the internet is for watching matches, but yet there's no broadcasting of them anywhere around here. I've found a single stream that's working for me, and its going so poor and slow that I'm going to quit in a few.

Anyway, United up 3 - 0, that's what counts.

Also yeah, my Fantasy team...

James
Ferdinand, Bosingwa, Carragher
Wright-Philips, Arteta, Deco, Ireland
Defoe, Rooney, Zaki

And yet I'm in dead last, roughly 150pts from first lol. I mean obviously I've been changing my team around, but its always been full of good players, its just I keep catching them on poor weeks. :(

Britney Diva

10-21-2008, 03:27 PM

You're not missing much.

talk show host

10-21-2008, 03:41 PM

Crazy amount of goals tonight.

RandyfromPennywise

10-21-2008, 03:47 PM

Also yeah, my Fantasy team...

James
Ferdinand, Bosingwa, Carragher
Wright-Philips, Arteta, Deco, Ireland
Defoe, Rooney, Zaki

If you leave your team like that for a while I'm sure you will move up the league. Obviously your team hasn't been like this for the first eight weeks. One thing I would say is that you need one of Lampard or Ronaldo in midfield, that is basically essentially. Both are points machines.

Villarreal are awesome. Seriously good team.

Massive result for Juve. Could turn their season around, as Tony Palumbo said. One of his golden quotes this morning:

"Amauri, well now the question is, who is he going to play for, Brazil or Italy, because he has an Italian wife... God help him."

Britney Diva

10-21-2008, 03:59 PM

Ghoul Hunter

10-21-2008, 04:02 PM

I don't know if it was live or what (see: american and retarded) but the Man U game was excellent. Berbatov was beast. I wasn't sure of how he'd do at first put he's been great.

Britney Diva

10-21-2008, 04:05 PM

yeah it was live

808

10-21-2008, 04:17 PM

He was offside for the first goal. :(

Britney Diva

10-21-2008, 04:21 PM

He was offside for both of his goals.

Ghoul Hunter

10-21-2008, 04:24 PM

http://i38.tinypic.com/213mzoy.gif

808

10-21-2008, 04:33 PM

I was too upset to watch much of the rest of the match. But if he was offside for both goals, then I don't know, I think I might burn his house down this weekend.

Ghoul Hunter

10-21-2008, 04:35 PM

not before i bring our FIFA rivalry to 1-1 with him :p

808

10-21-2008, 04:44 PM

2-0*

RandyfromPennywise

10-21-2008, 05:53 PM

Villarreal haven't looked particularly brilliant in either of the games I've seen this season, although I haven't seen tonight's fixture yet. Conceding three goals at home to a team that have barely managed a shot on target in their two previous encounters isn't exactly convincing though.

I didn't see this morning's match either, just saw highlights, but have seen them in La Liga and they look strong, they'll be top four there. Top four in the best league in the world can't be too bad.

Surtr

10-21-2008, 06:21 PM

Villarreal are quite good to be honest.

And yeah, Berbatov was offside for both goals lol. But I'm not complaining, though I imagine a lot of other people will be.

Watching re-plays ftl though. God I hate the internet and its inability to stream proper video.

808

10-21-2008, 08:05 PM

Why can't you watch the matches on TV?

mph4ever

10-22-2008, 02:11 AM

I didn't see this morning's match either, just saw highlights, but have seen them in La Liga and they look strong, they'll be top four there. Top four in the best league in the world can't be too bad.

technically speaking?

The_Passenger

10-22-2008, 07:57 AM

So Beckham is moving to AC Milan on loan in January. I honestly cannot see what he will add to Milan at all on the pitch, but judging by Galliani's comments I don't think they care as long as he sells lots of shirts.

Also did anyone see the ITV highlights last night? How did the presenter (forgot his name) deduce from the Juventus-Real Madrid game that the English teams are step above the Spanish clubs? I'm not going to disagree, our 'Big Four'>Spain's>Italy's, (although overall La Liga is probably a stronger league), but why even mention this in a game that didn't involve an England team. It was like listening to Richard Keys ('Del Piero must've been watching Ronaldo' what a load of crap)

badtaste

10-22-2008, 08:13 AM

TakeWarning

10-22-2008, 08:21 AM

And a lot of old old men.

The_Passenger

10-22-2008, 03:51 PM

With Beckham I think that makes 16 first-team players aged 30+. That has to be some kind of record amongst the European elite.

Tonight didn't live up to last night's goal fest but alternating between the Liverpool and Chelsea games in the pub both looked decent but not great.

mph4ever

10-22-2008, 04:01 PM

john terry is a dirty git, should have got a second yellow

deco looked a little lost

liverpool were lucky in the end, great first half though

EDIT: if you can, watch gullit and jamie redknapp commenting on the barca result. its funny to see jamie shut up

badtaste

10-22-2008, 04:38 PM

Indeed, Atletico-Liverpool game was lousy. A crappy dive each from Riera and Maniche, two bad offside calls which resulted in a goal lost for each team, and generally boring play.

mph4ever

10-23-2008, 09:15 AM

heres a quick game for you

joey barton wants to be a role model

is it for

a: a nice mild mannered person
b: a rotweiler
c: hutu militia

answers on a post card to slade prison, engerland

Happy

10-23-2008, 09:22 AM

That was one of the funniest thing's I've seen in the news for a while.

RandyfromPennywise

10-23-2008, 10:03 AM

technically speaking?

That, and depth. England has four very strong teams. After that, it has been proven again and again, apart from the odd exception, the rest have no ability in European competition. Spain have Real, Barça, Atlético, Villarreal, Valencia and Sevilla who are all quality, experienced sides. So immediately, the top group is larger, and more interchangable. Think of the likes of Deportivo and Celta Vigo in the last decade. Spain is strongest from 5-20, I reckon that's fair to say. It's also the strongest technically. So I think it has a fair claim to be the best league in the world. Italy has certainly dropped in recent years. There's no doubt that England and Spain are ahead of Italy now. Don't get me wrong, I love the Premiership, but from an objective view, this is my opinion.

ADELAIDE UNITED 3 - 1 Bunyodkor

We are now in to the final of the Asian Champions League. We are the greatest club in the world.

The_Passenger

10-23-2008, 11:04 AM

So Newcastle won their appeal against Beye's red card.

The FA must've got Newcastle confused with Chelsea :rolleyes:

mph4ever

10-23-2008, 11:54 AM

That, and depth. England has four very strong teams. After that, it has been proven again and again, apart from the odd exception, the rest have no ability in European competition. Spain have Real, Barça, Atlético, Villarreal, Valencia and Sevilla who are all quality, experienced sides. So immediately, the top group is larger, and more interchangable. Think of the likes of Deportivo and Celta Vigo in the last decade. Spain is strongest from 5-20, I reckon that's fair to say. It's also the strongest technically. So I think it has a fair claim to be the best league in the world. Italy has certainly dropped in recent years. There's no doubt that England and Spain are ahead of Italy now. Don't get me wrong, I love the Premiership, but from an objective view, this is my opinion.

chelsea, manu, arsenal stand out as teams. this season will see if liverpool have managed the same. lots of other teams have done well in europe outside of this group in the uefa cup, and they have done well domestically as well. the fact that the top four are so far ahead of the others in their leagues and mostly ahead of any of the spanish teams you mention does not lead me to think that the rest of the english league is lame. there are some excellent teams there that would easily hold their own against mid table opposition from spain or italy for that matter

spanish football was king, but thats a few year ago. italians were up there too, even germany had a golden era recently, but right now, english football is best

ADELAIDE UNITED 3 - 1 Bunyodkor

We are now in to the final of the Asian Champions League. We are the greatest club in the world.

excellent, well done. when is the final? where is it and do you get to go? or do they do it over two legs due to geography?

RandyfromPennywise

10-23-2008, 12:53 PM

chelsea, manu, arsenal stand out as teams. this season will see if liverpool have managed the same. lots of other teams have done well in europe outside of this group in the uefa cup, and they have done well domestically as well. the fact that the top four are so far ahead of the others in their leagues and mostly ahead of any of the spanish teams you mention does not lead me to think that the rest of the english league is lame. there are some excellent teams there that would easily hold their own against mid table opposition from spain or italy for that matter

spanish football was king, but thats a few year ago. italians were up there too, even germany had a golden era recently, but right now, english football is best

But that's exactly it, when you say that English teams have done well in the UEFA Cup - apart from the fact that Spanish teams have done far better than English teams in the UEFA Cup in recent years - it's the Champions League where English teams would get found out. Atlético haven't been in the comp for 11 years and they've come in and are doing very well. There isn't one English team outside of the top four who would do anything in the Champions League. As much as we'd like to think so, teams like Atlético would kill the Evertons, Villas and Pompeys. And as for the UEFA Cup, well there's been three Spanish winners in the last five years, and it is seven years since an English side won one, and you have to go back to 1984 for the second last one. I think it just comes down to the tactical versatility and technical quality in Spain. The English game can be one dimensional.

excellent, well done. when is the final? where is it and do you get to go? or do they do it over two legs due to geography?The final is two legs, 5 November in Osaka and 12 November here in Adelaide (we are playing Gamba Osaka). They sold 10,000 tickets today to Gold members. They reckon that around 3,500 tickets will be left when they go on general sale next Tuesday, so I'll line-up and Venuetix and hopefully get one. Hindmarsh Stadium holds 17,000. (And I don't have membership this season because I'm going overseas and am going to miss half the season.) The minimum financial gain we are going to get now is $1.4m, which is big money for Australian clubs. This is very good!

Frankie

10-23-2008, 01:26 PM

lmao what a joke that sending off for Spurs was.

Ref seemed a bit too ready to send O'Hara off imo.

pppoe

10-23-2008, 01:27 PM

Does it really matter? Either way, they're not going to win. :)

Frankie

10-23-2008, 01:29 PM

I hate all cockney teams. Lets just clear that up right now.

What a ****in save from Gomes tho'. Nearly gets lobbed and he just dives back and claws it away.

Surtr

10-23-2008, 01:30 PM

I like Spurs... :(

Happy

10-23-2008, 01:31 PM

Rediculous. How can all the players still be behind Ramos when he's led them down the shitter?

Britney Diva

10-23-2008, 01:40 PM

As much as we'd like to think so, teams like Atlético would kill the Evertons, Villas and Pompeys.
And Bolton!

Frankie

10-23-2008, 01:41 PM

Dunno what he was thinking not playing Modric from the start.

And tbh the players have to support Ramos as he's brought them in and ultimately they're letting him down biiiiiiig time.

From experience also of following my team through the UEFA cup, the spanish league has strength in depth which we don't have in England. Villa could do it and they have the resources (big stadium, wealthy patient backer in Randy Learner, good players coming through, decent manager) to push on and actually make waves in Europe.

Middlesbrough aren't near that stage at all (I would also like to add that our poor showing at the weekend could have summat to do with our defence being ermm decimated via injury and suspension).

Happy

10-23-2008, 01:42 PM

I think I'm gonna have to stop following Spurs matches for a while. Its killing me.

Frankie

10-23-2008, 01:49 PM

Nahh come on man they need all the support they can get !

Happy

10-23-2008, 01:50 PM

Tbh its not doing much over the internets

Frankie

10-23-2008, 01:52 PM

Not after that shambles at the back :lol:

Britney Diva

10-23-2008, 01:53 PM

Jenas might have stopped that if he hadn't given up.

Frankie

10-23-2008, 01:54 PM

Or wasn't a useless ****ing arse

Happy

10-23-2008, 01:54 PM

Jesus Christ.

RandyfromPennywise

10-23-2008, 01:56 PM

And Bolton!

Meh.

From experience also of following my team through the UEFA cup, the spanish league has strength in depth which we don't have in England. Villa could do it and they have the resources (big stadium, wealthy patient backer in Randy Learner, good players coming through, decent manager) to push on and actually make waves in Europe.

Middlesbrough aren't near that stage at all (I would also like to add that our poor showing at the weekend could have summat to do with our defence being ermm decimated via injury and suspension).
Spot on, I see Villa as the genuine challenger to the top four. Boro's UEFA Cup run was excellent. Big Dukes!!

Schalke destroyed Paris 3-1, only a late goal from PSG made the scoreline look respectable. I know Paris aren't one of the top teams in France, but they are one of the 'big' teams, and it just reinforces for me how strong the German league is at the moment, and what a quagmire French football is in at the moment. Really falling off the perch out of the top five leagues. It's really now the top four leagues (the big three plus Germany) and then a massive gap. Ligue 1 used to be quality, but the showings of Bordeaux and Marseille in the Champo lately have shown the lack of quality outside of Lyon. German league has really improved, they have good depth, with Schalke, Bremen, Bayern, Hamburg, Stuttgart, Leverkusen and maybe even Wolfsburg and Dortmund all pretty decent teams. Far, far better than Ligue 1.

Britney Diva

10-23-2008, 02:00 PM

Happy

10-23-2008, 02:03 PM

Wow spurs even suck on FIFA 09, I'm playing as Scunthorpe in the English cup and Spurs just lost 3-1 to Yeovil.

pppoe

10-23-2008, 02:04 PM

They have the same star rating as Arsenal. :\

Pastorius

10-23-2008, 02:20 PM

And Liverpool

pppoe

10-23-2008, 02:23 PM

Liverpool for some reason were bumped up to five stars.

RandyfromPennywise

10-23-2008, 02:29 PM

The French and Dutch leagues have been in splints for nigh on a decade now. The resurgence of the German league has been interesting, and I think it's welcome, but I still think they have some way to come to challenge for top CL honours. When Milan gave up their interest in Adebayor, I remember Milan's president (or some sort of high-up role, one of the straightest talkers in football either way) admitting that Serie A is fourth behind the Bundesliga now. I don't agree with him, but in terms of spending power I suppose it's true.

Yep, although I don't agree that the Dutch has been declining for a decade, I'd say more like the last five years. Late 90s and early 2000s, the top three were all still very strong, then Feyenoord dropped off, and after Hiddink left PSV they were no longer a force in Europe, and yeah now Dutch league is probably about the same as Portuguese or below it. German league, there is a lot of money there, and there isn't much in Italy, but Italy is still stronger. England is so far above any other league in terms of money, it's really not comparable. I think this fact should allow for the likes of Villa to get in to the Champions League sooner rather than later, and the English league to keep on improving. At the moment, the top ten teams in England are all probably richer than any club in France except for Lyon. Pompey or the equivalent is far richer than Bordeaux or Marseille, which is really saying something. I don't know this for fact in terms of the clubs' bottom lines and profits, but in terms of spending power there is no comparison. And, in turn, the wages on offer, too. You'll earn more playing for Fulham than you would for Marseille, or Palermo or Udinese even.

Pastorius

10-23-2008, 02:58 PM

Liverpool for some reason were bumped up to five stars.

for 10 points answer this question

are liverpool:

a) on equal points with chelsea and above united
or
b) on equal points with chelsea and above united

Happy

10-23-2008, 03:40 PM

RandyfromPennywise

10-23-2008, 03:43 PM

for 10 points answer this question

are liverpool:

a) on equal points with chelsea and above united
or
b) on equal points with chelsea and above united
Or c) the most over-rated team in the world?

C, lock it in, C.

The_Passenger

10-23-2008, 03:45 PM

You know, so many Southerners support Man U and I don't understand it. Fair do's if your parents do or if you're originally from the area but why support them if you've got no connections? Because they win everything?

problem with this is that if your parents support a club they have no connection to its probably because they win everything :/

i've never really understood glory-supporting, i mean people really support a club because they win a lot? does it make them feel successful themselves as well? i enjoy watching united, they're normally pretty easy on the eye, but i don't support them by any stretch of the imagination

Happy

10-23-2008, 03:53 PM

Yeah, I suppose it goes on and on like that, but then I support Tottenham because I'm from North London and my Dad supports them. I'm pretty sure they weren't winning much when he was a kid though. :-/

The_Passenger

10-23-2008, 03:56 PM

i dunno is your dad from north london?

sometimes it doesn't even matter if a club is going through a bad spell as long as they have a 'big club' reputation, which i understand even less

Frankie

10-23-2008, 03:59 PM

It's always a laugh hearing the various excuses of Man U fans when it comes to explaining the support for them. They always seem to mention they got into supporting them when United weren't doing so well a few years back :rolleyes:

Villa have looked sharp tonight, but if Stan ****ing Collymore mentions Afonso ****ing Alves one more time I swear I will hunt that brummie cunt down and rip his face off. I suppose his official record for Middlesbrough being 7 goals in 18 games (first few games he was finding his feet and gaining fitness mind) doesn't ****ing matter :rolleyes:

Happy

10-23-2008, 03:59 PM

He's near enough from North London, as is his dad.
So I guess its passed down.

pppoe

10-23-2008, 04:01 PM

for 10 points answer this question

are liverpool:

a) on equal points with chelsea and above united
or
b) on equal points with chelsea and above united

Their current standing doesn't have anything to do with the team rating, though. It doesn't have an effect until the February update. Like right now Hull City are third in the league IRL but their overall team rating is only 3.5, tied with Fulham and I think Middlesbrough for second lowest in the league.

pppoe

10-23-2008, 04:03 PM

I don't have any connection to Arsenal but I still support them. IS THAT A CRIME?

Pastorius

10-23-2008, 04:05 PM

Or c) the most over-rated team in the world?

C, lock it in, C.

i'm not claiming we're the best team in the premiership, but we have been playing like a team that means to win

Happy

10-23-2008, 04:06 PM

i Don't Have Any Connection To Arsenal But I Still Support Them. Is That A Crime?
Yes.

Frankie

10-23-2008, 04:12 PM

I don't have any connection to Arsenal but I still support them. IS THAT A CRIME?

you sicken me

pppoe

10-23-2008, 04:13 PM

Yes.

Why!

Frankie

10-23-2008, 04:19 PM

it is heresy good sir

ChodaBoy

10-23-2008, 04:19 PM

How do Villa fans react to Barry after the summers fiasco?

Why!

Its the law to support a local team

pppoe

10-23-2008, 04:20 PM

My local teams are Chivas USA and LA Galaxy.

Happy

10-23-2008, 04:24 PM

My local teams are Chivas USA and LA Galaxy.

I'd support LA Galaxy.

But fair enough if you're supporting from America, at least you didn't pick Man U.

Britney Diva

10-23-2008, 04:54 PM

I support United because my dad always has. I actually stopped supporting them for a couple of years because they kept winning everything and it got boring.

My local teams are all really small.

pppoe

10-23-2008, 04:55 PM

I thought about switching over to Fulham. :)

Happy

10-23-2008, 04:56 PM

My town's local team never win any matches lol. Every year come FA Cup time the newspaper raves on like "HODDESDON TOWN TO WIN THE FA CUP" then they lose their opening match.

RandyfromPennywise

10-23-2008, 05:50 PM

MY LOCAL IS FKN KILLING THEM RIGHT NOW, IT'S THE BEST EVER! ADELAIDE UNITED F.C. GET IN!

I guess I "picked" Chelsea. Everything was right about them, the '97 FA Cup was the first club match from Europe I'd watched live I believe, Robbie D's goal was mind-blowing, blue is my favourite colour, I love the name Chelsea, I loved our kit, I loved how the team was coached by Ruud Gullit who I was aware of. I don't know, it was just the right fit for me.

And about the glory hunting, well I dunno, but it felt like it was the most exciting supporting Chelsea in 2002-03 and 2003-04. 02-03 was when Zola was on fire at 36 years of age, and we clinched 4th on the last day of the season against the Scouse, when the club was so far in debt it wasn't funny, and we went and got in to the Champo. Then 03-04, Ranieri had the cash to spend from the Russian man and it was very exciting times at Stamford Bridge, semi-finals of the Champions League, challenging for the Prem, they were great times. I am getting all happy just thinking about them. There was this buzz about Chelsea back then. I suppose it was still there in 04-05 and 05-06, but its went away in 06-07 and 07-08. I think Big Phil has brought it back though. I am enjoying Chelsea more this year than I did last year.