Euro 2008 (Official Man City LOL Thread)

[VomitStainedCretin]

I disagree, I think David James on his current form is the best keeper in the Prem.Indeed. According to Observer Sport statistics, James has an 80% shot-stopping efficiency. England's ex-no. 1 keeper, Robinson, on the other hand, has only 56%. Though James does have the odd calamity when he loses concentration but, as long as they're harmless and amusing, I forgive him.

[Britney Diva]

Yeah, James is only really peaking now, it's scary. He'll have a good 5 years left in him at this rate.

[mph4ever]

did nyone ever see anything like as bad as chelsea tonight. a change in manager won't save them from that type of performance, they need a new owner with a different attitude to how to build a football club, as well as a new manager

[Iai]

So Emile Heskey actually did something useful?

[poorquality]

Good ol' power n pace Heskey :D

[Frankie]

If he lost his fat arse he'd be as useless as Michael Ricketts.

[Iai]

Or his namesake disease.

[Dead Star]

Or his namesake disease.

I've got a bad case of the Heskeys.

seriously though I know you mean ricketts

[talk show host]

ahh all the teams at the bottom are picking up points. Reading are ****ed, I can feel it :-(

[RandyfromPennywise]

Ah well we lost our chance at the title. We wouldn't have deserved to win it anyway. Well actually, we would've if we got more points (the whole playing the same teams home and away is kind of a leveller), but we won't. United are worthy champions. Avram Grant's not bad, he's showed that he can manage at a high level, but I've yet to see anything that puts him above the 'decent' class, like I saw once a month with The Special One. Grant doesn't seem to be able to have the match-day impact that José was capable of. I haven't seen Grant change formation/shape to the great benefit of the overall performance and end up getting a result because of a change of tactics. I haven't seen him make inspired substitutions that change a game - Joe Cole changes the game when he comes on, but that's got nothing to do with Grant. I haven't been convinced that he's a great motivator, like José was/is. And I haven't seen that relationship with the squad that José enjoyed - the players would have done anything for José, I just don't see that same kind of respect or committment to Grant.

There's talk of Michael Laudrup coming in. I wouldn't be adverse to this. And the comment before that the Chelsea squad needs a complete overhaul, what a load of bollocks. You're telling me that:

Čech
Belletti - Carvalho - Terry - Bridge
Essien
Ballack - Lampard
J. Cole - Drogba - Malouda

isn't a bloody awesome team? And are you saying that with a starting XI of that, a bench of:

Cudicini, Alex, A. Cole, Makélélé, Wright-Phillips, Kalou, Shevchenko, Anelka and Pizarro

isn't a pretty good squad?

Then we have other players like Sidwell, Mikel, this Ivanović who I've yet to see, and Ferreira. I don't think major changes are required. I think about 4-5 sales, and 2-3 purchases and we will be set for another big season next year.

[Britney Diva]

Well you don't get to be the manager of the richest club in the world without having some talent, but I really don't see how he's any better than any of the other 19 managers in the league.

[mph4ever]

awseome, most incredible squad anyone has ever pulled together. but they are just not a team. under jose, they could get going, it wasn't out of fear of him or a bad display, he had a fire in their bellies that he controlled, he could turn it up, turn it down, as he felt was required depending on the game.

they are not a team anymore and to renew that then they need a new manager and a revised squad.

its like abramovich plays pro-evo or fifa that night before a game and tells grant what to do with the team for the duration of the match.

right trigger, X, B and hope

[Surtr]

So today is a fairly huge day for Celtic. If they take down Rangers then some big stuff can happen, and if not, then it could be over.

[Britney Diva]

It's pretty much over already :(

[rik]

awseome, most incredible squad anyone has ever pulled

I would personally say that on paper, Man Utd and Barca have the best squads in the world.


David Villa has said he would like a move to Arsenal, I really hope Arsene goes for him, they need someone like him and i'd love to see him in the prem.

[Surtr]

It's pretty much over already :(

**** no mate. Celtic have got it. They can turn the tables and take this stuff. I believe in 'em.

[Britney Diva]

I dunno, I don't see Rangers dropping 12 points, even if 6 of them are against Celtic.

[Surtr]

Haha all it takes is one bad slip up and its over lol.

I dunno' man, I'm just hoping. And I'm hoping my Motherwell can hold that #3 spot 'til the end.

[Dead Star]

I dunno' man, I'm just hoping. And I'm hoping my Motherwell can hold that #3 spot 'til the end.

You and me ****ing both.

we're all going on a european tour
a european tour
a european tour

[mph4ever]

I would personally say that on paper, Man Utd and Barca have the best squads in the world.



i'd disagree. i think manu and barca have the best teams. but i do believe, if you look at what RandyfromPennyWise posted, that chelsea have the best squad. they just don't have the right manager, and it takes a great manager to turn a squad into a team.


David Villa has said he would like a move to Arsenal, I really hope Arsene goes for him, they need someone like him and i'd love to see him in the prem.

if arsenal get this sort of class, with rosicky and eduardo back, add a midfielder to help cesc and add one or two decent central defenders then they have a team that will last a season and challange on all fronts. if milan can buy who they are openly after then they wil improve. madrid will always pull one or two out of the bag. rafa needs some money but after torres he has shown that he can spend well. it looks like a stonkin' season, next season.

does anyone think there is any correlation between the timing of big international tournaments like euro champs or world cup and some of the average football we have seen? a lot of the players performiing for manu are the english ones or ones that don't seem to pick up too many injuries, just a thought

[Frankie]

I dunno, I don't see Rangers dropping 12 points, even if 6 of them are against Celtic.

it could happen

I think we might get a win over rangers

[mph4ever]

i hope so, it never nice when they put one over on the bhoys. its one of sports greatest ever rivalries, no doubt

[Surtr]

You and me ****ing both.

we're all going on a european tour
a european tour
a european tour

I think we can fend off United. I mean you've gotta' look at what we've been facing as a team. Our pitch is **** and isn't even really a pitch anymore, its honest to god a mud pit now and yet we're still fighting through that. We had one of our best players die earlier in the season and other than the obvious physical loss thats a huge moral hurt for a team. McGhee has really pulled together our team, and the players have been tremendous. We've got the soul and the heart to hold it, I'm sure we do.

In other news, comeeee onnnnn Celtic!!! Bring down these Rangers! And yeah, this is definitely one of the biggest sport rivalries. I know when I was Glasgow I nearly had it out with two blokes just 'cause I decided to be an idiot and tough it out and sport my Celtic top on the way to the Lord Todd on the Strath. campus. And then later on I met two blokes partying it up (Totally drunk) in full out Green and white at the station waiting for my train who saw me and totally took me in and were ****ing unreal nice to me. It could have been that they were just drunk I suppose but these are two STRONGLY loved teams and even if it can get sketchy at times, you've gotta' love it.

[Britney Diva]

holy **** nakamura

[Surtr]

I'm no where near a TV, and so I need to keep refreshing the score page for the game on the BBC website. I also can't get the radio thing to work. :(

Someone find a way for me to listen to or watch this from my computer lol.

And yeah, Celtic are one up. :)

[talk show host]

I always use http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/ to watch games I can't see on the tv. It doesn't always work though and you have to install loads of dodgy programs on to your pc. Viruses lol.

[Surtr]

Hmmm... How sketchy? Like potentially really harmful or something AVG Virus could pick off and all that?

[talk show host]

The first stream for the game on that link is for Sopcast which i've never had any problem with. It's quite a widely used program as well.

Not sure i'd risk the others though but they could be fine, I dunno.

[Surtr]

Hmm, I've downloaded and installed Sopcast for it, but I can't get it to work. Its saying I don't have it installed?

[talk show host]

Are you using Internet Explorer? It doesn't work with Firefox.

If you're using IE it should load up automatically after you refresh the page.

[Surtr]

That could explain it. I'll try it in IE then here.

Edit: Ok, I've got it open on the page, except its not saying its buffering or anything.

Editedit: lol I got it working. Except its being retarded as it buffers.

[talk show host]

Did you click on the channel? If so, i'm not sure why it wouldn't work. I suck at computer stuff.

[Surtr]

There got it to work. Rep++ mate, you just saved my life.

And my bloody lord, what a game. That was something else. I mean..Wow.

The hand ball and the free kick nearly broke me, and then the stoppage time at the end...Holyyyy crap. WHAT a game. 2 -1 for the boys in green and white. Now thats Football.

[Minus The Flair]

Nakamura's goal = best goal of the season. Awesome match too.

[Surtr]

My god, I missed that first goal because I didn't have that website, but the second half was something else. The suspense just killed me, especially with the whole hand ball issue.

I may go on about this for days to come lol. This is mostly a large deal because my "girl" is first off, an Aberdeen fan, who I get to make fun of since my main team, Motherwell, are beating them. And who second off, supports Rangers as a second team, and I support Celtic. I'll get to rub this in her face for a good while now. At least until the next Celtic - Rangers match.

[talk show host]

Hmm, wish i'd watched it myself now haha.

[Minus The Flair]

May of been a bit hasty with best of the season, but definitely top 5. The swerve on the second replay is just insane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWpmNFljKTE

[Pastorius]

How is that possible.

[talk show host]

Yeah that swerve is pretty crazy. Good goal that.

[Surtr]

How is that possible.

I don't think it is lol. I've watched it a few times over and thats just ****ing unreal lol. Really good stuff that is.

[Pastorius]

It's like he's playing with a ****ing flyaway ball on the beach.

[Surtr]

He's probably yet to figure out that it was in fact a real ball, and that he was in fact in the middle of one of the biggest matches for Celtic this year lol.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Well you don't get to be the manager of the richest club in the world without having some talent, but I really don't see how he's any better than any of the other 19 managers in the league.

Yeah, pretty much. I mean he inhereted a pretty successful set up there, and he's surrounded by Steve Clarke, Henk Ten Cate and Frank Arnesen - it's not like he's guiding the ship all by himself. I'd be just as happy or happier to see Mark Hughes managing us, or Sven even. Grant out.

Nakamura's goal was good, but jeez, certainly no goal-of-the-year contender. Settle down lads.

It's only Scottish League anyway.

:smash:

[Surtr]

Yeah, pretty much. I mean he inhereted a pretty successful set up there, and he's surrounded by Steve Clarke, Henk Ten Cate and Frank Arnesen - it's not like he's guiding the ship all by himself. I'd be just as happy or happier to see Mark Hughes managing us, or Sven even. Grant out.

Nakamura's goal was good, but jeez, certainly no goal-of-the-year contender. Settle down lads.

It's only Scottish League anyway.

:smash:

Apparently you missed the part of the goal where the ball took off from the right side of the net, straight to the left, all because of some sorta' WILD spin.

Not goal of the year, but its good, and definitely at least Top 10 for sure.

And pff, the SPL has some really good games.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Apparently you missed the part of the goal where the ball took off from the right side of the net, straight to the left, all because of some sorta' WILD spin.

Not goal of the year, but its good, and definitely at least Top 10 for sure.

And pff, the SPL has some really good games.
I didn't miss any part of the goal. What are you talking, top 5/top 10 of SPL? Well yeah certianly, agree with that. If you're talking like overall goals of the year, from all leagues, then that's what I was saying, 'cause that's what I thought was meant.

And I was being facetious about SPL.

[Frankie]

Aye randys only sore cos he supports rangers :p

And as I was getting hammered 4-0 off rangers (****ing hate FIFA always preffer PES) celtic win 2-1

And it was a mint goal fo sho

[Surtr]

I didn't miss any part of the goal. What are you talking, top 5/top 10 of SPL? Well yeah certianly, agree with that. If you're talking like overall goals of the year, from all leagues, then that's what I was saying, 'cause that's what I thought was meant.

And I was being facetious about SPL.

Oh no man, it was Top 10 in of all of 'em this year. The curve on it is just sooo sick.

[talk show host]

Matejovsky's goal against Liverpool is the real goal of the season tbh :cool:

[VomitStainedCretin]

Old Firm game was excellent, keeps it a two-horse race for now.

I really wish though that some idiot Russian billionaire would invest heavily in one of the other clubs so that the SPL title wouldn't just be a fight between the Glasgow sides.

[rik]

Had Oba's shot which hit the bar against Liverpool from 40 yards gone in, there'd be no contest as to goal of the season.

[Frankie]

Old Firm game was excellent, keeps it a two-horse race for now.

I really wish though that some idiot Russian billionaire would invest heavily in one of the other clubs so that the SPL title wouldn't just be a fight between the Glasgow sides.

Hearts were nearly made it a 3 horse race a few seasons ago when they won the scottish cup with the backing of a russian. Shame they've done nowt to push on.

[Surtr]

You wait. Next year the 'Well will pick it up even further and walk all over the Glasgae teams.

[Frankie]

Hahahah I doubt it tho' mate :p

Be good to have some competition in the SPL tho

[Surtr]

Ohhh no, its happening. We're getting like 4x our regular sponsorship money now that we've got Jaxx.com behind is instead of gay ol' Anglian. All we need is a field you can actually play on, and not build mud castles in, and maybe pick up a few good players and we're set.

[Frankie]

Ahhh well sounds like a very good start like. Getting in the UEFA will help a fair bit as well like.

btw who gave you that big avatar ? I fancy a big avatar of either the celtic or boro badge :D

[Dead Star]

Hearts were nearly made it a 3 horse race a few seasons ago when they won the scottish cup with the backing of a russian. Shame they've done nowt to push on.

He was a Lithuanian, and tried to run the team himself picking Lithuanians all the time, and letting the good scottish players walk.

And they made it to 2nd one year too.

[Frankie]

Aye romanov seemed to be disruptive, especially with his appointing of managers and various 'directors'

[Surtr]

Ahhh well sounds like a very good start like. Getting in the UEFA will help a fair bit as well like.

btw who gave you that big avatar ? I fancy a big avatar of either the celtic or boro badge :D

I got Jom to hook me up. But I also "earned" it for winning PPOTY this past year lol.

[rik]

Avram Grant really is a strange man, anyone hear his press conference after the Everton game?

Press Conference in Full
Question: Are you back in the hunt?

Answer: Maybe not.

Q: Was it a deserved win?

A: Yes.

Q: What pleased you most?

A: I don't know.

Q: Is it a relief to win here?

A: Yes.

Q: Were you impressed by the performance or the result?

A: Both.

Q: You seem to have something on your mind, a problem?

A: No, no problem.

Q: An issue?

A: No, I'm okay, sometimes I have nothing to say.

Q: Do you have a message for the Chelsea fans, who think you are back in the title race?

A: No message.

Q: But you are back in it now?

A: I don't know.

Q: Is it because of Sky TV (who had switched the game to Thursday)

A: Maybe it is because of you, I don't know.

Q: Would you rather say nothing?

A: It's a good question, I don't know what to answer. It's not Sky, I enjoy watching them.

Q: You are two points behind Man Utd but you don't know whether you are back in the title race?

A: No, I don't know

Q: Are you in the title race again?

A: I don't know. I am sorry, you can write what you want and I will answer how I want.

[Pastorius]

That can't instill confidence in the fans and players...

[Frankie]

That avram. Such a miserable bastard as well

[E sharp]

Avram Grant really is a strange man, anyone hear his press conference after the Everton game?

Press Conference in Full


there a video of that? seems too blunt to be true.

[Frankie]

I'll be deeply disappointed if we dont get 3 points tomorrow against bolton.

Also Sven's position at Man City looks a tad rocky atm. Not surprised when you conisder their start to the season and how they've ended up. Still think it'll be City to be the ones to watch next season especially with the amount of money they'll spend over the summer.

[Pastorius]

Just because they overachieved at the start of the season doesn't mean they should overachieve all season though. Any sensible board will see that.

[Spiney_Norman]

there a video of that? seems too blunt to be true.

I think there's one on the BBC somewhere (think this is it - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7344057.stm); apparantly it was because Sky moved the game forward so they had to play Mon and Thurs. Still a pretty strange thing to do though :confused: And blaming not winning the title on Mourinho won't exactly endear him to the Chelski fans either...

[talk show host]

I'll be deeply disappointed if we dont get 3 points tomorrow against bolton.



So will I.

Reading have got Arsenal away tomorrow so not really any chance of points there, plus it sounds like Benitez will be resting all of his best players against Fulham so they could maybe get something which would be pretty annoying.

[Britney Diva]

Actually apparently everyone gets points from Arsenal these days

[Pastorius]

Or in our case, CL semi-final places :D

[Surtr]

You guys ever hear anything about Xpert Eleven? Its like you manage a team and its online and free and stuff? I post on an SPL forum and I just joined up for Xpert Eleven after I saw a thread on it, and its sorta' cool so far.

[E sharp]

Sort of like Fantasy Dream Team?

[clown_phobia]

who do you think will win euro 2008?

[Surtr]

Sort of like Fantasy Dream Team?

Probably. Its fairly cool. You have your squad that you can obviously let go or pick up new guys, and you select your form (4-4-2, 2-5-3 etc) and you can pick who you wanna' put the extra money into so you can train them for 4 weeks and stuff. And then you've got your Uniform and team name, stadium name etc. And you can make Press Releases that everyone else in the League can read. And you've got different options for match strategies, and some of it includes like whether or not they should cheat, or put on a lot of pressure on a certain player and each thing has the chance of not working and causing problems (Cheating if your caught you're fined depending on how bad it was and maybe more and pressure can cause for certain players to be left open while one person is covered.)

[sgrevs]

Sounds really cool, I'll look into it.

Spain for Euro 08.

[dei]

Yar, Spain.

[Britney Diva]

lol @ spain winning any tournament ever

[Surtr]

England.

Though lol @ the actually possibilities.

[TakeWarning]

I would have picked Croatia to do well in Euro, but with Eduardo out for the tournament I'm not sure we're they're going to get their goals from

I'll be supporting them, who else is everyone else supporting?

[poorquality]

I think i'm gonna go for Portugal (are they in it? I never bothered to check after we never made it, after the pain, the crying, the black voodoo magic)

Think they play exciting football, especially if Ronnie n Nani play.

[Dead Star]

I want Spain to win, or Croatia.

[Frankie]

Portugal or France.

Srsly Benzema and Ribery ftw

[Timm]

I think i'm gonna go for Portugal (are they in it? I never bothered to check after we never made it, after the pain, the crying, the black voodoo magic)

Think they play exciting football, especially if Ronnie n Nani play.

Ronaldo plays incredibly good for Man U but not for Portugal. maybe this will change in the euro but I wouldn't place any bets on it.

I think we (germany) have pretty good chances. so do france and italy. but we have far easier group and our hardest opponent on the way to the final would be turkey .
after our game against austria I wouldn't be too surpised to see them in the quarter or even semi finals, they can play good footie, they're just inconsisten and lack stamina. home advantage might work wonders there and poland and croatia have quite some problems right now.
but yeah I'd pick one of the usual suspects; france, germany, italy, netherlands, (spain)

group c games will be fcuking sweet: italy, france, netherlands...oh and uh romania :D

[Dead Star]

Portugal or France.

Srsly Benzema and Ribery ftw

If Scotland can beat them twice then theyre not going to win.

[poorquality]

Ronaldo plays incredibly good for Man U but not for Portugal. maybe this will change in the euro but I wouldn't place any bets on it.


He hasn't been as prolific internationally sure. But he hasn't exactly played badly, he did well in Euro 2004 scoring a vital goal against Holland and he has 20 international goals (including friendlies) so far.

Think after this great season he will do well in the Euros, he just seems unstoppable, as if nothing can bring him down, he thinks he is the worlds best, which may be cocky but he is, and that self confidence is driving him. Which I think will help immensely internationally.

[dei]

Did Arsenal win? I thought about waking up early to catch the match and I actually set an alarm but I turned that **** off and went back to bed.

[poorquality]

Did Arsenal win? I thought about waking up early to catch the match and I actually set an alarm but I turned that **** off and went back to bed.

Yeah 2-0, apparently could of been 6

[Frankie]

Hmmmm a weakened Liverpool beatin' Fulham and apparently we're all over Bolton as well

[talk show host]

well score a goal dammit :mad:

the Reading result was tedious and inevitable

[dei]

Yeah 2-0, apparently could of been 6

Terrible. Oh well, at least we got three points.

[Surtr]

Bah, Liv'Pool are ahead by a goal here entering second half. My only comment is at times Fulham are really fighting out there. There's some really good Football being played by them, better than what the Scouse are putting out, but Fulham just aren't getting the chances and are making these sloppy mistakes that ruin all their effort.

[dei]

Liverpool are now up 2-0.

[poorquality]

Wigan v Spurs was a decent match to watch. Both teams had chances to win it, and both played pretty well, guess Draw is a fair result.

[Surtr]

My god what is wrong with United today?

We're just struggling tooooo much.

[poorquality]

We play like this aganst Barca + Chelsea, we can say goodbye to silverware.

We need to pick this up a bit, we're doing better than first half, but we need goals

[poorquality]

I'll settle for that, our last 20 minutes was a decent display. How does Friedal do it? He's amazing against us, pulled off amazing saves, the one at the near post from O'Shea i think it was, reaction right hand, contention for save of the season?

I dont think i'd mind playing how we played in the final 20 minutes when we take on Barca, can't see Valdes being as good as Friedal, Valdes has been shocking recently

[Surtr]

The final bit was true United football. Some proper Ronaldo work, but my god we were up against a wall. One of the best shows goalkeeping I've seen in a long while. But good work Tevez opening it up and at least giving us a point. I think next week we can take Chelski we've just gotta' be prepared for stuff. And I'd like to see some more O'Shea. I love that man, his presence on the field did wonders this match. He was just there, where as Brown wasn't.

Really good football towards the end though.

The only thing that bothers me was the VERY obvious handball where the ball would have just floated right in. That could have easily tied the game with a while to go. The ref. was asleep I think today.

[poorquality]

Yeah, out of all the penalty shouts I think that was the only one which should of been given, all the others for both sides seemed to show the player winning the ball first.

[talk show host]

So is Rooney injured? 5Live were saying they don't think he'll be fit to play against barca.

Sounds like it was a decent game anyway.

[Surtr]

Oh Blackburn definitely gave us a run for it that I didn't expect. It was some good Football from what I'd thought would have been a somewhat easier match.

And Rooney took a leg to the ribs/hip, and he wasn't looking that good out on the pitch but they didn't take him off and he seemed not too bad towards the end. I'd say he should be fine by the Barca game unless its way worse. To be real honest I think he was just playing it up some since he didn't get the call that he wanted.

[Britney Diva]

Yeah, out of all the penalty shouts I think that was the only one which should of been given, all the others for both sides seemed to show the player winning the ball first.
It pretty much summed up United's day that Rob Stiles resisted the urge to give at least one penalty. He is seriously one of the poorest referees I've ever seen.

So is Rooney injured? 5Live were saying they don't think he'll be fit to play against barca.
Ferguson says he's fit. I wouldn't put much faith in what I hear on 5Live tbh

And I'd like to see some more O'Shea. I love that man, his presence on the field did wonders this match. He was just there, where as Brown wasn't.
I was gutted when I found out Brown had signed a new contract. And Carrick as well! It's like Reward Mediocrity Week or something at Old Trafford.

[Surtr]

I don't mind Carrick, he doesn't do that bad of a job, but Brown isn't worth our time really. O'Shea could take his place full time and provide some results, in fact I really like O'Shea as a starter, or at least getting a lot more game time.

In general I think that someone needs to do something with that man. Who the hell made him a Ref? He spent ages of that match with his hands in his pockets. There were a few very questionable calls that he didn't make, one a very obvious hand ball that would have been a goal. I think he just came out for the paycheck today.

[dei]

I was hoping he'd call Tevez offside and discount the goal.

[sgrevs]

lol @ spain winning any tournament ever

Their time is now.

Bah, Liv'Pool are ahead by a goal here entering second half. My only comment is at times Fulham are really fighting out there. There's some really good Football being played by them, better than what the Scouse are putting out, but Fulham just aren't getting the chances and are making these sloppy mistakes that ruin all their effort.

From what I watched of the game, Fulham were pretty atrocious and Liverpool were seriously all over them. Pennant's goal was a cracker too.

[TakeWarning]

Wigan v Spurs was a decent match to watch. Both teams had chances to win it, and both played pretty well, guess Draw is a fair result.

Really? I thought both teams were very ordinary. Spurs have been dissapointing since the Carling Cup, I'm a firm non-believer in the so-called "Ramos Revolution".

[poorquality]

Really? I thought both teams were very ordinary. Spurs have been dissapointing since the Carling Cup, I'm a firm non-believer in the so-called "Ramos Revolution".

Well there was no amazing style play or anything, but they were trying, Spurs really dominated the first half then Wigan replied in the second, thought it was a good match from a neutral stand point.

[talk show host]

I wouldn't put much faith in what I hear on 5Live tbh



Haha yeah, fair point. I generally don't mind their commentaries though, at least until Alan Green comes on. He does my nut in that man.

edit: bloody hell, Villa trounced Birmingham. Good news.

[Surtr]

Haha yeah Villa took it to 'em. Same with Swindon Town in League 1. :)

[rik]

So sweet beating the mackems today. Owen's on fire.

[Frankie]

rofl at pompy for the first goal they conceded today.

[talk show host]

haha what the hell was david james doing

[VomitStainedCretin]

Sadly, with James calamities are inevitable at some point. Fortunately, for every horror goal, he saves a bunch more no one else would even get a hand on.

[Surtr]

Truth truth.

He's been outstanding for the most part all season.

[poorquality]

After watching highlights of the Man U v Blackburn match, and seeing how well Friedal played against us AGAIN.

Bah he'd of probably saved the unsaveable freekick from Ronaldo v Portsmouth, I dont know how, but it'd be just our luck against him. Friedals immense.

[rik]

His save from O'Shea was incredible.

[Frankie]

haha what the hell was david james doing

in all fairness it was a double blunder by Sol and James. Not just James's fault.

And like I said Friedel is the best keeper in the league. Better than Cech imo.

[rik]

I actually thought it was much more of a blunder from Campbell, he was quite obviously completely oblivious to the fact Benjani was sprinting up behind him.

[Pastorius]

I reckon James is still the best keeper, despite the odd blunder like that. For every one of those he does, he'll save countless others that every other keeper would let in.

And it was kind of Sol's fault.

[Minus The Flair]

I didn't really see why James felt he had to get the ball in the first place, Sol had it covered.

Anyone know anything about this Brazilian 'Jo' fella? City are apparently close to signing him for a club record £20mil, I havn't really heard of him. And damn you Brown for signing a new four year deal.

[Britney Diva]

in all fairness it was a double blunder by Sol and James. Not just James's fault.

And like I said Friedel is the best keeper in the league. Better than Cech imo.
Cech's not really been the same since he returned from his skull injury. He's had some decent patches, but based on the form of the last 2 years he's not even in the top 5 goalkeepers in the Premiership. Chelsea's back 4 problems this year have made things a lot harder on him, and he's struggled in comparison to the likes of Friedel, Reina and Given who are used to playing behind godawful defensive lines.

[angry armadillo]

i might be able to get myself on down to anfield tonight \:D/\:D/\:D/\:D/

[sgrevs]

i might be able to get myself on down to anfield tonight \:D/\:D/\:D/\:D/

Get down there! And send Liverpool my regards.

I predict a 1-0 home win.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Cech's not really been the same since he returned from his skull injury. He's had some decent patches, but based on the form of the last 2 years he's not even in the top 5 goalkeepers in the Premiership. Chelsea's back 4 problems this year have made things a lot harder on him, and he's struggled in comparison to the likes of Friedel, Reina and Given who are used to playing behind godawful defensive lines.

NOT IN THE TOP FIVE?!! HAVING A LAUGH!!

[badtaste]

You tell him Tommy.

Not sure who to go for tomorrow morning... Probably Chelsea, I like Ballack, he's a monster.

[sgrevs]

Liverpool.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Chelsea are gonna 'av it, for sure. Games will be boring as bat sh*t though. And Ballack, well I've been really impressed with his work-rate this season. He and Joe Cole are always running.

[sgrevs]

I would say those two players are the reason they are where they are this season. The games certainly will be boring, but I reckon both legs will be 1-0 to the home teams. The 'Pool will win on penalties.

[Britney Diva]

NOT IN THE TOP FIVE?!! HAVING A LAUGH!!
In terms of form, yeah. I'm still waiting for Chelsea to start playing this "attractive football" :p

If Liverpool win the home leg I don't think Chelsea will recover. Depends what Pool team shows up really.

[talk show host]

No idea who'll win over the two legs, it's too close to call really. It'll probably come down to a ref's decision either way tbh.

[Frankie]

If Liverpool dont win tonight then I sincerly doubt they'll go through.

[poorquality]

I don't really mind which way the tie goes, but please god please, let Liverpool get an early goal, force Chelsea into action. Otherwise I can see another borefest. Also if Chelsea take an early lead they'll probably sit back on it as they tend to do, which makes it boring too.

The reason I don't mind is that, I strongly believe it's Uniteds year, I haven't felt this much of a buzz around the champions league since 1999, everything seems to want to go our way, it's like we can't lose. *touch wood*

[Britney Diva]

Skrtel and Carragher in centre defence tonight. Rafa has obviously been reading my posts. I think Liverpool's chances will hinge upon whether or not Gerrard and Carragher pick up bookings and miss the second leg.

[Frankie]

Game's been oreeet so far

Alothough Chelsea have looked really really average tonight. And why the hell has J Cole come off for Kalou of all people.

[Britney Diva]

Chelsea looked really solid until Liverpool scored. Since then they haven't really offered any sort of response.

[Minus The Flair]

...Ouch.

[E sharp]

ohh goodness. riise you poor sap

[Frankie]

ahahahahhahahahaha

unlucky

[The_Passenger]

I have nothing against Liverpool and feel sort sorry for Riise but (mostly due to the reaction of the Chelsea fan living under the same roof as me) that was almost funny.

[talk show host]

oops

[Surtr]

I'm not really sure what to say lol. Chelsea played pretty meh, Liverpool were on fire. I guess sometime to win you have to let the other team score for you.

[sgrevs]

Holy Crap

Utter Disbelief

[Surtr]

I guess I sorta' don't care, it was a tough match to pick who to cheer for. I hate scousers but lets face it Chelski are worse lol. I was cheering for Liv'Pool but whatever, as long as United win I'm good.

[sgrevs]

Liverpool will pull through. Second leg will be 1-1. Game was far more exciting than expected, and Liverpool dominated for 90% of it. Cech really is the only reason they're in it. We should have been up 3-0.

[talk show host]

nah I reckon Chelsea will nick it now. They'll have Essien back for the second leg too and if they score Liverpool will be out imo.

I'd much rather Liverpool go through than Chelsea though. Especially if United get past Barca.

[sgrevs]

Liverpool haven't scored at Stamford Bridge in 8 matches :(

[The_Passenger]

I think that people are exaggerating Liverpool's dominance. They were the better team overall but Chelsea were the better team for the first quarter and in the middle of the second half.

1-0 probably would've been a fair scoreline, but that happens in football. I expect Chelsea to go through now, I see a goalless draw or a 1-0 to Chelsea. Then again some of my predictions throughout this ECL campaign have been pretty rubbish.

[Britney Diva]

They'll have Essien back for the second leg too and if they score Liverpool will be out imo.
How so? Liverpool have to score either way.

Liverpool desperately unlucky, but what an awful attempt by Riise to clear the ball. He wasn't even unlucky, it was just bad defending. It would have been a routine clearance if he'd had a right foot.

Chelsea should go on to win it now, although I wouldn't be too hopeful of either side actually scoring on the basis of tonight. It'll be mistakes again that do it. Torres' touch in particular was poor tonight.

[badtaste]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/graphics/2008/04/23/sfgliv223.jpg

hahaha

edit: hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Surtr]

lol @ the guy thats right above the guy thats right above his butt.

The one with his hand over his mouth lol.

[badtaste]

Go Man U.

[Iai]

I still have faith in Liverpool tbh. It was fatigue as much as anything that did them in - Riise's concentration, Torres' touch, the whole team's slow start to the game. Benitez is just going to field his fourth choice side in the league and then have everybody completely fresh for the next leg. Chelsea, on the other hand....

[poorquality]

I'm really nervous / excited about the match tonight now, can't stop reading build up, watching the highlights of the amazing 3-3's both home and away in '99.

God I love European nights.

[RandyfromPennywise]

How so? Liverpool have to score either way.


Yeah spot on, Chelsea scoring one goal makes no difference to Liverpool's predicament in terms of having to score... If Chelsea score two then it's probably all over (i.e. at 2-0), but at 1-0 or 0-0 it's no different.

**** it's brilliant to have Scousers ****ed off, I ****ing hate Liverpool more than any other team in any sport in the world. I wish they would do a Leeds, I would love nothing more than that. Even with United winning the title, I'm still really glad that Liverscum are no where near the top, and that we finish above them every year now. :)

Adelaide United up 4-1 against Bin Duong in the Asian Champions League, the matchday 6 showdown against Changchun in China is going to be the decider for who goes through to the quarters... Going to be a huge match! And Adelaide is rolling along!

And Plath, I've been missing the sexy football since Vialli left, I mean Ranieri's teams played some good stuff, but the old days of sexy football where we'd either win 4-2 or get stuffed 3-0 and beat United then lose to Bradford... those were the days! (Watched a Chelsea TV special on Setanta today about Chelsea v United matches... so many great wins over Manure... the 5-0er at the Bridge is still my favourite. Got it on tape, might watch it tonight :p)

[Iai]

Bin Duong
lol

[RandyfromPennywise]

lol

Bình Dương F.C. to be precise, only got one decent player, South African Philani.

[Surtr]

lol people actually watch ACL lolololol.

[badtaste]

If they have paytv...

[Surtr]

lol @ Aus. Football teams playing in an ASIAN Championship League. lolololol, Asia.

[dei]

Where else would they play? Oceania doesn't really have any strong football teams.

[Frankie]

Sub dont really with none at all (barring Aus)

might have to get along to the pub and watch Man U and Barca tonight. Any game with Ronaldo and Messi is bound to be excellent

[Britney Diva]

And Plath, I've been missing the sexy football since Vialli left, I mean Ranieri's teams played some good stuff, but the old days of sexy football where we'd either win 4-2 or get stuffed 3-0 and beat United then lose to Bradford... those were the days! (Watched a Chelsea TV special on Setanta today about Chelsea v United matches... so many great wins over Manure... the 5-0er at the Bridge is still my favourite. Got it on tape, might watch it tonight :p)
The 5-3 under Gullitt (I think) was spectaculsr

[RandyfromPennywise]

lol people actually watch ACL lolololol.

Laugh out loud at you being an ignorant knob head.

Mmm the 3-5 wasn't so great. That 3-all at Old Traf that was Ranieri's first game, that was a top match. Hasselbaink's shot in that one, could not have possibly hit is better, and Scholesy had a nice volley just after that too. Ah the glory days of late '90s/early '00s football.

[Surtr]

Haha oicz.

I just never found the appeal or decent game play. Maybe its just me though.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Yeah but they are my local team - of course I'm going to follow them.

[Surtr]

Yeah, don't blame you for that/

[RandyfromPennywise]

Well I understand when you say you don't understand the appeal - if my team wasn't in the comp, I would have little interest. Was being a bit harsh before when I called you a knob head, sorry for that.

The Asian Champo League reckons that more people watch their comp than the Euro Champo Leago... I can see how, but I don't believe it.

'mon the Barça.

[Surtr]

Haha I really doubt it. Maybe because there are more people in Asia, but I still don't at all believe it.

[Britney Diva]

Barcelona were somehow magnificent and brutal at the same time. Their general play was incredible at times but they never once looked like scoring, though I think if Messi had been fit enough to play 90 minutes we could be looking at a different result.

Ronaldo was atrocious. He might as well not have played.

[Ganondorf]

lol does this fuel the belief that he goes missing in big european games eg Milan last season?

[Iai]

He hardly went missing. I know exactly where he was in the third minute, for example.

[The_Passenger]

Really poor performance from Man Utd, they could barely string two passes together. At the same time if Barcelona are going to have all that possession they need to do more in the final third, and they porbably would've done if they'd been just a tad quicker. I still reckon Man Utd will go through though, they'll almost certainly be more positive at Old Trafford and probably play better as a result. Which always makes me wonder why Man Utd play so negatively away from home in Europe.

[Surtr]

Barca were monsters and United just simply shut them down. Not anything much of an offensive game by United, but their defensive game was unstoppable. Never once felt in danger, even with those free kicks looming.

[badtaste]

Ronaldo was atrocious. He might as well not have played.

Chmon, Fergie played at him at centre forward, would have been way more effective in his usual position, regardless of what Fergie was trying to achieve strategically.

Barca were monsters and United just simply shut them down. Not anything much of an offensive game by United, but their defensive game was unstoppable. Never once felt in danger, even with those free kicks looming.

I wouldn't say Man U shut them down at all. Barcelona got tonnes of shots in, I'd say that they just managed to always get that last tackle in, or get enough pressure in to force a standard shot. Barcelona's play wasn't affected at all, just the the final result of the play.

[Iai]

That's basically the same thing.

[Britney Diva]

Chmon, Fergie played at him at centre forward, would have been way more effective in his usual position, regardless of what Fergie was trying to achieve strategically.
Well he was in the wrong position, but that doesn't explain why his first touch invariably gave the ball right back to Barca. He's obviously not used to being expected to hold the ball up like that, but anyone who's seen him play in the Premiership will know he's fully capable of it.

Barcelona got tonnes of shots in
How many were inside the box or past the last defender? Like, one?

[badtaste]

Well he was in the wrong position, but that doesn't explain why his first touch invariably gave the ball right back to Barca. He's obviously not used to being expected to hold the ball up like that, but anyone who's seen him play in the Premiership will know he's fully capable of it.

Fergie could have moved him.


How many were inside the box or past the last defender? Like, one?

Two.

[Britney Diva]

Well Fergie's tactics were pretty confusing the whole night, but it doesn't account for Ronaldo's performance. In fairness, Rooney and Tevez were just as bad but they at least looked like they were trying.

[angry armadillo]

man u arent going anywhere playing like that i think

i think liverpool will win too

hopefully there will be some injuries in the man u chelsea game ;)

[Echleon]

Ronaldo wasn't that bad, he had a few good runs down the wing and looked threatening whenever he had the ball.

Great defensive performance by us tonight, but if I have to sit through 90 minute of Barca playing on the edge of our box again, I will have a heart attack! Rooney was wasted on the right, but Fergie clearly set us up for the Counter Attack with Ronaldo/Rooney/Tevez but we wasted our chance to c/o.

I'm pleased with the result to some extent. I know I wouldn't be happy if we were playing the first leg and failed to score at home despite having nearly 70% of the possession.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Barcelona killed United in all areas except the scoresheet. Their general play was excellent, their passing was at times back to their best, which they haven't even hinted at being capable of in the last two months. Messi is amazing. He's as good as Ronaldo, in such a different way, but he's as good, and potentially better. Messi's a potential World Cup winner. So Barcelona failed to score, and it's now advantage United. Barcelona are capable of scoring at OT, and United won't play like they did last night, so logic says Barcelona probably will score. United probably will as well. Should be a great game. Better than last night's, which really didn't live up to any of the hype... Basically entirely down to Manure's tactics.

Mon the Gers.

[Echleon]

Oh god I hate watching Rangers. I know United did it last night, but every game I have seen Rangers play in Europe, they just get everyone behind the ball and hope that Darcheville gets a lucky break and manages to create something.

[Frankie]

Was a pretty awful game tbh

[Surtr]

Rangers are shite.

Its why I follow Celtic all day and nightt!

Little bit 'o rhyming there for you all lol.

[Frankie]

Rangers are shite.

Its why I follow Celtic all day and nightt!

Little bit 'o rhyming there for you all lol.

Celtic all the way my son

[mph4ever]

rangers suck salty balls and i hope they do ever more

manu got beat by milan last year at the same stage in the away leg, not the home leg. tactics were set out to avoid a repeat of that. it would have meant an unrecoverable position back at old trafford. now at nil-nil, manu can play their own game. united have proven that they can defend against barca at camp nou, they'll be well able to defend at old trafford. now lets see them attack in front of their own. its going to be interesting.

liverpool will do chelsea. torres will ensure that. i can't see chelsea scoring against liverpool

manu will draw with chelsea tomorrow

[poorquality]

I can see United getting a 2-0 win tomorrow, Ronaldo will score atleast one. While Chelsea are good, Grant has shown that he doesn't know what he's doing in the big games, which while the players can readily motivate themselves, it still mentally affects them, and they'll be without Lampard which will be a big blow for them (His mother died, R.I.P poor lad must be crushed).

All records come to an end, and united tend to be record breakers (Arsenal, 49 games anyone??).

If we do win, season is over, unless we lose by a lot in the last 2 or chelsea score lots of goals in their last two.
If we draw, race is technically still on, but I'd fancy us to beat West Ham and Wigan, while they are away at Newcastle who've hit some form recently.

Can't wait for the Barca 2nd leg, I think we're through tbh, like mph4ever said, we've shown our ability to keep them out, they had maybe 2 shots inside our area, and only one caused VDS any trouble (Henry's from outside area). People are quick to say United were on the back foot for the entire match, which fair enough they did dominate a bit, but what goods possession without end product.

At OT I can see us winning 2-1 or 3-1.

[mph4ever]

squeaky bum time if barca score one a OT, i'd go for 2 nil

[badtaste]

Modric to Spurs, another fine young talent ruined.

[Frankie]

Off to watch the Man Utd Chelsea game in a bit since I couldn'tget tickets to the Tees-Wear derby.

[poorquality]

United team to face Chelsea:

VDS

Brown - Vidic - Ferdinand - Silvestre

Fletcher - Anderson - Carrick

Nani - Giggs

Rooney

[TakeWarning]

Good to see Vidic back, I'll be supporting United tonight.

Modric to Spurs, another fine young talent ruined.

Oh, I get it.

[poorquality]

Vidic lasted not very long, concussion probably, Hargreaves is on at right back, losing 1-0 at HT. Come on reds.

[Minus The Flair]

Apparently his tooth went through his lip. Nasty. Ronaldo needs to come on, I don't really understand why he didn't start.

[poorquality]

He was rested for Tuesday -_-

Meh we wasted a few chances to equalise/possibly win the game

Their pen was a pen, no complaints there. Gutted.

Was hoping West Ham game wouldn't mean anything, they've become somewhat of a bogey team for us, lost last 3 games against them.

[Minus The Flair]

Not too annoyed with the result really, it's been ages since such a close race for the title, and this definitely makes things more interesting. Game on.

[TakeWarning]

I think it was silly of Sir Alex to rest a few key players.

I mean, if they don't win on Tuesday, he'll have seriously jeopardised their title hopes for nothing.

Great game though, Rooney's goal was great.

[mph4ever]

fair play to chelsea. they showed some character. it was always going to be a tough game, but i really don't see why they are congratulating each other, theres nothing won yet

[badtaste]

lol@ ballack and drogba bickering for the free kick.

[talk show host]

and at Ferdinand kicking out at a wall but accidentally kicking a woman as well :confused:

[poorquality]

yeah but she found it in good humour (aka laughed because we lost), so he sent her flowers.

[Frankie]

flowers with a big fat cheque with PLEASE DONT SUE ME

apparently there was an incident with the ground staff as well after the game

oh and f'ucking boro :(

alves scored tho so theres a positive

[Surtr]

So guys, how the **** is this SPL thing going to turn out?

I think its probably more intense than anything going on in the Premiership really. Celtic are up by 5pts but Rangers have more matches to play. Its a very close one.

[Frankie]

Aye I cant wait to see how it turns out myself

my mates a rangers fan so if they lose the title he'll be gutted

[Surtr]

I counted it up and if each team doesn't lose a game from now 'til the end of the season then Celtic win by 2. Assuming I did my maths proper.

Its a close one definitely. I think Celtic have it though.

[poorquality]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7370319.stm

PFA awards out

Ronaldo player of the year
Fabegeas young player

I'm in two minds about the young player, as I posted on another forum:

I think the young player should go to a genuine youngster who's played their first season at top flight football (domestically and internationally).

I don't think it's fair on some players having a fully fledged premiership and international player as competition for that award, if they're good enough to have been playing top flight for years they should be in contention for Player of the Year only.

I really don't see how players like Ronaldo and Fabregas can even be in contention for young player, since they've played top flight since they were 17 or so.

[Surtr]

Yeah I agree on that.

Ronaldo deserves Player of the Year for sure, but Fabby shouldn't get Young Player. That should go to someone who's in their first season, MAYBE second, with a Prem. team.

[dei]

Fabregas should get all awards.

[The_Passenger]

I reckon young player should stop if you're 21 at the beginning of a season, which I spose would mean Fabregas would still have won. Problem with doing it with player sonly in their first season or two is that a lot of these players get about 15 league games a season for thei first two seasons and then when they actually have a chance to show how consistent they can be they'd be inleigible.

Don't think anyone can really argue with Ronaldo getting it although I thought a couple of the nominations were strange. I mean Gerrard, really? No mention of either centre-back largely resposible for the lowest GA column in the league?

[poorquality]

I know what you mean about players not playing much in their first seasons. But as it stands now then, technically Ronaldo should of got both awards, how can you be voted best player in the entire world, out of everybody. But not be best young player as well?

He was in the shortlist for both, that's why I don't think it's fair on other players, by rights if you're the best in the world at 23 and still in contention for young player, who's better?

Think it's a wierd thing to be honest.

[Spiney_Norman]

Don't think anyone can really argue with Ronaldo getting it although I thought a couple of the nominations were strange. I mean Gerrard, really? No mention of either centre-back largely resposible for the lowest GA column in the league?

Yeah, the nominations seem really biased towards attacking players, probably cos they score the goals/catch the eye etc.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Their pen was a pen, no complaints there. Gutted.

First bit of sense I've heard out of anyone associated with MUFC in the past week. Fergie's comments were a disgrace. It was a clear penalty you stupid senile ****wit. Yeah, you should give it away now. **** off SAF.

[poorquality]

First bit of sense I've heard out of anyone associated with MUFC in the past week. Fergie's comments were a disgrace. It was a clear penalty you stupid senile ****wit. Yeah, you should give it away now. **** off SAF.

To be fair though, I also think we should of had a pen when Ballack practically hugged Ronaldo in the area, wasn't even looking in the direction of the ball just had his arms all around him.

But no use complaining about it, the title is still ours to lose.

[Pastorius]

If those pens were given, there would be 10 a game though.

[poorquality]

I dont think so tbh, i thought what he did was blatent obstruction in the sense he literally grabbed him to stop his movement, he prevented Ronaldo getting into any position by holding onto him. Like arms around him.

I think those should be given stone wall penalties.

If it happens in many games, give pens for it, because it's clearly against the rules, players would soon stop if they knew they couldn't get away with it anymore.

[Pastorius]

There would be about 10 a game was what I said, not in many games. It would get ridiculous, and defenders are never gonna stop getting as close to attackers as they can.

They're the kind of penalty where every United fan will say penalty, every Chelsea fan will say no penalty.

[poorquality]

To be fair, if the ref gives a pen for it in one game, it won't happen again in that game. It's one thing to get as close to an opponent as possible, it's another to put yours arms around him to prevent him moving.

[Pastorius]

I tend to disagree there, though I can see where you're coming from.

I still think defenders would have their hands all over attackers the rest of the game, the risk of letting your attacker roam free is greater than the risk of a penalty. I mean the ref has a lot of players to concentrate on, and the vast majority of times won't even notice, yet alone give a pen.

I just don't think it would get stamped out as easily as other offences.

[Minus The Flair]

So Adebayor's finally found where the goal is. I understood why he was shortlisted for PotY, but I dont think he should of been, the last couple of months have been pretty abysmal for him while someone like Ferdinand has performed consistently all season. In fact, were there any defenders at all on the shortlist?

[talk show host]

I think the votes for poty are cast in February or somewhere around there so it's understandable that he made the shortlist. It's the same with Fabregas really, he hasn't been great recently either.

Ferdinand should've been on there though, I agree.

[Frankie]

I dont get why people get on Adebayor's back really he's been in excellent most of the season.

[RandyfromPennywise]

I don't get why the Player of the Year only counts the first 90% of the season! Vote for it the day after the League finishes...

[dei]

Fabregas should have gotten both awards.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Nah, he really shouldn't have. Ronaldo was the best player this season. Cesc was fair awesome, no doubt about it, but Ronaldo was better.

[Spiney_Norman]

So, looks like Man City's owner is sacking Eriksson: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7370698.stm
Pretty stupid, seeing how they were almost relegated last season, and how well they've done this year.

[talk show host]

Completely ridiculous. It's not exactly going to be the most appealing job in the world now, is it? Instant success or you're out.

[badtaste]

So, looks like Man City's owner is sacking Eriksson: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7370698.stm
Pretty stupid, seeing how they were almost relegated last season, and how well they've done this year.

Maybe Mourinho will take over, haha.

But yeah, silly move.

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOk6J15g2U

whoa.

[dei]

That reminds me of Maxi Rodriguez's goal against Mexico in the last World Cup except the one you linked to was further out.

[mph4ever]

big sam allardyce will go to eastlands, they need someone who can plan a few years and work hard

anyway, thats not the purpose of this post, this is

MANCHESTER UNITED VS FRANKEE MAN UTD RULE LYRICS

See I will
Always
Love the Reds so much
We are the team nobody else can touch

United
I love them
They’re the only team I like
The other ones are poope
And now I’m gunna tell you how I feel

fu'ck Peter Kenyon and Abramovich
fu'ck you Mourinho you son of a bitch
fu'ck Kevin Keegan and fu'ck Brandon Lee
fu'ck Steve McManaman and fu'ck Man City
fu'ck Leeds United you’re down in your day
fu'ck Norman Hunter and fu'ck Eddie Gray
fu'ck Everton and fu'ck you Liverpool
fu'ck all you Scousers cos Manchester rule

Ronaldo, van Nistelrooy play for the baddest team
With Ferdinand and super Roy Keane
Silvestre and Ryan Giggs we’ve never looked so bad
Dressed in red, white, and black
We don’t give a damn about no one else

fu'ck Peter Kenyon and Abramovich
fu'ck you Mourinho you son of a bitch
fu'ck Kevin Keegan and fu'ck Brandon Lee
fu'ck Steve McManaman and fu'ck Man City
fu'ck Arsène Wenger and fu'ck Arsenal too
fu'ck all the Cockneys we fu'cking hate you
fu'ck Everton and fu'ck you Liverpool
fu'ck all you Scousers cos Manchester rule

Rule rule United x4

Now I hate the Scousers and I hate Liverpool
They’re fu'cking poope and United rule
And Chelsea who do you think you are
It’s been 50 long years
It’s gunna end in tears
You’ll never be as big as Man United

fu'ck Barcelona and fu'ck Real Madrid
I’ve loved United since I was a kid
fu'ck Bayern Munich and AC Milan
fu'ck Deportivo and Vasco De Gam

fu'ck Kevin Keegan and fu'ck Brandon Lee
fu'ck Steve McManaman and fu'ck Man City
fu'ck Everton and fu'ck you Liverpool
fu'ck all you Scousers cos Manchester rule

Rule rule United x8

[poorquality]

Ok here we are again, Champions League night and I'm all excited again.

Now I felt good about our chances in the Nou Camp, we drew, I felt good about our chances against Chelsea at the weekend, we lost.

I'm feeling really nervous about this match now, does that mean we'll win?

[mph4ever]

we were within 4 minutes of two perfect results when the linesman went against us at chelsea. a draw at camp nou and a draw at stamford bridge would have have soooo cool. either we go out and play our game tonight or all is lost. lets just do our thing and rely on a mean defence to keep barca out. its going to be great to watch.

[RandyfromPennywise]

MANCHESTER UNITED VS Frank Lampard's left bollock LYRICS

See I will
Always
Hate the Reds so much
They are the team no one would want to touch

United
I hate them
They’re a bunch of over-rated shyte
Everyone is better than them
And now I’m gunna tell you how I feel

fu'ck you United, your season's in a ditch
fu'ck you Fergie you son of a bitch
fu'ck Cristiano and fu'ck old Teddy
fu'ck the lot of you Mancs, you're not even as good as City
fu'ck Leeds United you’re down in your day
fu'ck Gary Neville what a fu'cking gay
fu'ck Peter Schmeichel and fu'ck you Liverpool
fu'ck all you Scousers, it's Chelsea who rule

Ronaldo, van Nistelrooy they dive and moan and cheat
Roy Keane came to the Bridge and was always beat
Silvestre and Ryan Giggs - we’ve never looked so ****
Dressed in red, white, and black
United's a bunch or pricks

fu'ck Poborsky and fu'ck Georgie Best
fu'ck Cantona, Scholsey and the rest
fu'ck Steve McLaren, and Carlos Queroz
fu'ck it's true that Fergie's lost the plot
fu'ck Arsène Wenger and fu'ck Arsenal too
fu'ck all the Cockneys we fu'cking hate you
fu'ck Everton and fu'ck you Liverpool
fu'ck all you Scousers and fu'ck United too

Scum, scum United x400

Now I hate the Scousers and I hate Liverpool
They’re fu'cking poope and United too
It's Chelsea who's the pride of the land
Never been in doubt
Di Matteo and Vialli
United never had a shout

fu'ck Wes Brown and Andy Cole
The scummy reds from Manchester ain't got a soul
fu'ck Anderson and Nani both fu'cking twats
fu'ck van der Sar and Beckham too

fu'ck Carlos Tevez and Wayne Rooney
fu'ck Dwight Yorke and his deformed baby
fu'ck Everton and fu'ck you Liverpool
fu'ck all you United fans, you're all fu'cking tools

Scum, scum United x8

[Frankie]

what a strike that were

just starting to pick up the play united, pinging the ball around nicely

[Echleon]

UNIITTEDD UNITTEDD!!!

Can't believe it but we did it! Every one had a fantastic game tbh, what a great team performance and what a ****ing goal!

Bring on the renties or the scouse!

[Surtr]

Gooood **** boys.

:)

[Echleon]

Thought the ref was going to cost us then, how did 3 minutes turn into 7!!!??

[Frankie]

Evra was on his arse for 3 minutes

[talk show host]

well that was a tense end to the match. gg united.

Messi's control with the ball is phenomenal.

[mph4ever]

stunning, fu'cking stunning

and we love manu, and we love manu...................need i say more


we are where you all want to be, glory, glory man united

[dei]

I hate Manchester United so much.

[Surtr]

Haha its all good, we know most people do. You probably hate us for the same reasons I hate Chelski and Liv'Pool lol.

Now I hate the Scousers and I hate Liverpool
They’re fu'cking poope and United too
It's Chelsea who's the pride of the land
Never been in doubt
Di Matteo and Vialli
United never had a shout

Gotta' love this one, as its not even accurate lol. "Never been in doubt" ? Umm, how 'bout every season when we beat you? You're really not much of a over all better team so don't play that game lol. Just saying.

[poorquality]

woo, i feel nervous and we win :) I like it, We're the famous Man United and we're going to wembl....er...Moscow.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Gotta' love this one, as its not even accurate lol. "Never been in doubt" ? Umm, how 'bout every season when we beat you? You're really not much of a over all better team so don't play that game lol. Just saying.
Every season when you beat us? I think you'll find that Chelsea's recent record against Manchester United is actually quite respectable.

I could have played better than Eto'o last night, seriously how sh't was he... Henry looked lethargic and no threat at all, Gudjohnsen looked more of a threat than both of them. Messi is incredibly amazing. United deserved to go through overall, if for nothing else than Barcelona were incapable of creating a clear-cut chance in 180 minutes of football with players like Eto'o, Messi, Xavi, Deco and Iniesta on the pitch. They're a shade of the team they were in 2005-6, but take nought away from United. Scholesy's goal was a cracker, but I reckon I'd struggle to remember a goal more against the run of play than that one.

[badtaste]

well that was a tense end to the match. gg united.

Messi's control with the ball is phenomenal.

I loved that move where he walked up to Scholes and with a quick flick, got around him.

Made me jizz.

[Iai]

Scholesy's goal was a cracker, but I reckon I'd struggle to remember a goal more against the run of play than that one.
John Arne Riise's last week.

[mph4ever]

Every season when you beat us? I think you'll find that Chelsea's recent record against Manchester United is actually quite respectable.

I could have played better than Eto'o last night, seriously how sh't was he... Henry looked lethargic and no threat at all, Gudjohnsen looked more of a threat than both of them. Messi is incredibly amazing. United deserved to go through overall, if for nothing else than Barcelona were incapable of creating a clear-cut chance in 180 minutes of football with players like Eto'o, Messi, Xavi, Deco and Iniesta on the pitch. They're a shade of the team they were in 2005-6, but take nought away from United. Scholesy's goal was a cracker, but I reckon I'd struggle to remember a goal more against the run of play than that one.

you know little of football except perhaps its tribalism

give us credit where it is due. we didn't allow barca to score, nothing else. we went out last year to ac milan for being too cr'ap in defence. we changed that this year purposely and it paid off. its called tactics. we are the best defence in england and perhaps in europe right now. thats what this progress is all about, nothing else. and we'll always get a goal.

we drew with barca at camp nou, the ref gave the blue scum from london a penalty when we looked likely yo get another draw and we stop barca from scoring at OT and win with an excellent goal

[Pastorius]

Yeah fair play to United they really made it hard for Barca.

I can't see Liverpool beating United if we get to the final, which will be a challenge in itself.

[RandyfromPennywise]

you know little of football except perhaps its tribalism

give us credit where it is due. we didn't allow barca to score, nothing else. we went out last year to ac milan for being too cr'ap in defence. we changed that this year purposely and it paid off. its called tactics. we are the best defence in england and perhaps in europe right now. thats what this progress is all about, nothing else. and we'll always get a goal.

we drew with barca at camp nou, the ref gave the blue scum from london a penalty when we looked likely yo get another draw and we stop barca from scoring at OT and win with an excellent goalI don't think you read my post properly. I said that United deserved to go through, I said that even though Barcelona weren't at the best, that doesn't detract from Manchester. How is that not "giving you credit where it's due"??

And why would I know about the tribalism of football and not anything else? Don't really get where you're coming from.

[poorquality]

Anyone else amazed by everyones constant praise of Messi last night? He took on players and got round them, so did Ronaldo, but Ronaldo had an "average" game because he didn't score.

Messi despite his brilliance, had no end product and that can only go down to creditting the defence.

Ronaldo didn't score either I know, that's my point, they had similar games, but one is average one is amazing.

[The_Passenger]

Gotta' love this one, as its not even accurate lol. "Never been in doubt" ? Umm, how 'bout every season when we beat you? You're really not much of a over all better team so don't play that game lol. Just saying.

If there's one team in the Premiership United can't brag about their record against it's Chelsea to be fair. They must've won more times at Old Trafford than any other away team in the Premier League era.

Anyone else amazed by everyones constant praise of Messi last night? He took on players and got round them, so did Ronaldo, but Ronaldo had an "average" game because he didn't score.

Messi despite his brilliance, had no end product and that can only go down to creditting the defence.

Ronaldo didn't score either I know, that's my point, they had similar games, but one is average one is amazing.

Messi was definitely better than Ronaldo last night, but claims that he was amazing are exaggerating his performance.

[mph4ever]

I don't think you read my post properly. I said that United deserved to go through, I said that even though Barcelona weren't at the best, that doesn't detract from Manchester. How is that not "giving you credit where it's due"??


you said


I could have played better than Eto'o last night, seriously how sh't was he... Henry looked lethargic and no threat at all, Gudjohnsen looked more of a threat than both of them. Messi is incredibly amazing. United deserved to go through overall, if for nothing else than Barcelona were incapable of creating a clear-cut chance in 180 minutes of football with players like Eto'o, Messi, Xavi, Deco and Iniesta on the pitch. They're a shade of the team they were in 2005-6

I reckon I'd struggle to remember a goal more against the run of play than that one.


they are not a shade, they were up against a much better team

and then you stuck this in

but take nought away from United


so essentially you are saying that manu went through because barca were shi'te. i can't read it any other way.


And why would I know about the tribalism of football and not anything else? Don't really get where you're coming from

well simply from your inability to notice that the manu tactics were excellent and that is the only reason barca looked like shi'te means that you can really only see your own team and can't appreciate the virtues of others.

are you a chelsea fan by any chance?

[The_Passenger]

they are not a shade, they were up against a much better team



Barcelona really are a shade of the team they were a couple of years ago. That's part of the reason why Manchester United are a better team at the moment, at least at the back anyway.

Manchester United's defensive displays earned them thier clean sheets and they deserved to go to the final, but in light of all the talk about how United were meant to rip the weak Barcelona defence to shreds the negative performances struck me as dissapointing.

[Iai]

If there's one team in the Premiership United can't brag about their record against it's Chelsea to be fair.
The Middlesbrough fans here may beg to differ on that one.

Evra had Messi in the bag last night to be honest - he constantly drifted into others areas looking to get the ball or create something because he was getting no joy down that flank. Then again, same's true of basically every player on the park - the only time anybody really got any meaningful space was Scholes for the goal, and that was the result of a defensive error.