Euro 2008 (Official Man City LOL Thread) [Archive] - Page 64

Britney Diva

11-17-2007, 02:00 PM

Well a draw or a loss is the same thing to England, since it's not conceivable that Russia would lose or draw to Andorra, and they don't look like getting a second tonight.
I was wrong! Israel win and give England the "get out of free jail card" (as Richard Keyes eloquently put it).

superpeer

11-17-2007, 02:19 PM

omg we were actually playing pretty well and then a dumb defender passes back to the keeper so well that the Polish Striker can just kick it right in the goal

omg .__.

Spiney_Norman

11-17-2007, 02:41 PM

It'll be a joke if England manage to qualify now, the team's just terrible...

VomitStainedCretin

11-17-2007, 04:12 PM

It'll be a joke if England manage to qualify now, the team's just terrible...Agreed; it's horrible that Scotland and Northern Ireland have actually played rreally well but won't/probably won't qualify, whereas England have been dire in an easy group but are still in with a chance.

Frankie

11-17-2007, 05:14 PM

Our team is absolutely terrible agreed. But considering the talent pool we have to choose from it shouldn't be the case.

McClaren needs to wisen up about picking a team that will play well together. He's started to do this by putting barry in Central Midfield along side Gerrard.

I'm just hoping an praying by 2008 (that is IF we qualify) some younger players will have pushed through an Players like Richards and Rooney will have matured better to becoming World Class or else we'll just disappoint again.

The_Passenger

11-17-2007, 06:03 PM

Tbh England's group isn't as easy as everyone says. Granted, we should've won it without too much trouble but people don't pay enough respect to Croatia, Russia or even Israel. When the group was drawn I actually expected us to lose against Croatia and Russia away. The result which has caused us so much trouble was the draw with Macedonia, which was dire.

However I think we'll get shown up at Euro 08 (I'm almost certain we'll qualify now) by teams of a higher standard than what we've faced so far. And by qualifying for Euro 08 we will sweep our problems under the carpet and so things will continue.

On a side note I was dissapointed by the post-match reaction from Scotland today. I know that most teams do it when they're frustrated but it annoys me so much when the referee gets blamed for a defeat. I'd hoped that Scotland could end on a high note and be gracious in defeat, oh well.

superpeer

11-17-2007, 06:15 PM

Croatia are very good.

munky_magik

11-17-2007, 06:16 PM

Gutted :(

Britney Diva

11-17-2007, 06:28 PM

I'm just hoping an praying by 2008 (that is IF we qualify) some younger players will have pushed through an Players like Richards and Rooney will have matured better to becoming World Class or else we'll just disappoint again.
Well Rooney is world class, it's the rest of the side which isn't up to par. Richards won't be world class for another five years, there's things no defender can do without a few seasons experience behind him.

Tbh England's group isn't as easy as everyone says. Granted, we should've won it without too much trouble but people don't pay enough respect to Croatia, Russia or even Israel. When the group was drawn I actually expected us to lose against Croatia and Russia away. The result which has caused us so much trouble was the draw with Macedonia, which was dire.
Well I don't think it'll do much good to give more credit to the opposition than they deserve. Russia are an extremely limited side, and from 1-0 England shouldn't have conceded one, let alone two, goals.

On a side note I was dissapointed by the post-match reaction from Scotland today. I know that most teams do it when they're frustrated but it annoys me so much when the referee gets blamed for a defeat. I'd hoped that Scotland could end on a high note and be gracious in defeat, oh well.
It was one of the most bemusing decisions I've ever witnessed.

Gutted :(
Well, at least Scotland will probably never be in another group that difficult. Plus the World Cup's the big one anyway.

rustysurf84

11-17-2007, 09:48 PM

Poor Scotland, was the decision in the corner really that horrific? I haven't seen the highlights yet since I'm in the States.

Hooray for Poland and qualification for the 1st time ever; sets up an big game in Lisbon between the Fins and the Portuguese.

Britney Diva

11-17-2007, 10:23 PM

VomitStainedCretin

11-17-2007, 10:45 PM

Scotland player had the ball in the corner, Italian comes in and bundles him over and somehow the free kick goes to Italy. I can understand an Italy throw, but it just wasn't possible that Italy could win a free kick from the scenario. It was just bizarre.Am I remembering wrongly but did the Scot, after being blatently fouled, grab the ball for the free kick and then the ref gave handball. Retarded decision but Italy did have an onside goal doisallowed in the first half.

Britney Diva

11-17-2007, 10:46 PM

I thought the ball went out for a throw in

DonMancini

11-18-2007, 01:09 AM

I'm Italian and it was a terrible decision, I couldn't believe it was a free kick for Italy.

However, Italy had a perfectly legal goal disallowed in the first half, and Scotland's goal was offside so things evened out in the end.

What a heartbreaking way to go out for Scotland though. If you guys want highlights:

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/italy/video/x3icqp_ecosse-vs-italie-12-raisport-euro-2_sport

The foul isn't in the highlights though, they just show the free kick :(

Cecillianne

11-18-2007, 04:53 AM

i can't get over how lucky England is. results really swung their way.

The_Passenger

11-18-2007, 05:06 AM

Well I don't think it'll do much good to give more credit to the opposition than they deserve. Russia are an extremely limited side, and from 1-0 England shouldn't have conceded one, let alone two, goals.
I know that Russia aren't that great (I could see that at Wembleym, they looked very ordinary), but I don't consider them a side that you can just expect an easy ride from when they're at home. I don't really think they should've been a threat to England's qualification though, which they wouldn't have been if we had beat Macedonia, that's the result which really annoyed me abou this campaign.

It was one of the most bemusing decisions I've ever witnessed.

I'm not going to argue that it was a strange decision (although I have seen similar ones given a couple of times before) but regardless it stills annoys me when teams blame the referee for a defeat, especially when Scotland had at least one, arguably two (Di Nataale's disallowed goal might have been for handball, but Ferguson was definitely offside) decisions go for them earlier in the game. Scotland falling to sleep after one minute and James McFadden missing a glorious chance had more to do with it than the referee did.

Interstate

11-18-2007, 06:24 AM

Poor Scotland, I can't believe how unlucky they were. I nearly lobbed my drink at the tv when the referee said it was a corner at the end. Completely cheated out of the game, they played their hearts out.

Frankie

11-18-2007, 07:37 AM

Are we all forgetting that little handball incident as well ?

Almost as blatant as Terry's a couple of seasons ago. Deffo penalty kick for that one.

Ah well atleast the scots will get an easier group next time.

Echleon

11-18-2007, 12:40 PM

Well, his arms were by his side and the Scot did take a shot so I don't really think there was much he could have done to move out of the way.

In the end they were unlucky with the goal from the free-kick, but I dont think a draw would have been enough in the end.

Iai

11-18-2007, 04:35 PM

Scots are second seeds for the World Cup now. This is a beautiful thing.

rustysurf84

11-18-2007, 05:45 PM

How are the seedings decided? I thought it was by world ranking or maybe not.

Iai

11-18-2007, 05:48 PM

I think it is, but Scotland have jumped up the rankings like nobody's business in the past year. They're 13th now - England are 11th.

rustysurf84

11-18-2007, 08:59 PM

Oh wow, that's impressive, but completely deserved. Its probably all European teams sans Brazil and Argentina

Britney Diva

11-18-2007, 09:18 PM

They'll slip a couple of places after Saturday's result.

Interstate

11-19-2007, 12:11 PM

So England have a chance to go through if they draw against Croatia. I have a feeling we will get shown up. In a way it teaches them a lesson not to underestimate the other teams in the group. It's shocking that Scotland and Ireland played so well and yet didn't get through and yet England have played awfully and yet still have a chance to qualify.

VomitStainedCretin

11-19-2007, 01:24 PM

It's shocking that Scotland and Northern Ireland played so well and yet didn't get through and yet England have played awfully and yet still have a chance to qualify.Fixed; The Republic were terrible (1 point from two games against Cyprus and 3-6 on aggreagate). Plus Northern Ireland have an extreme outside chance still (beat Spain, hope Latvia beat Sweden).

badtaste

11-20-2007, 04:31 AM

David Carney \m/

Spiney_Norman

11-20-2007, 07:51 AM

So England have a chance to go through if they draw against Croatia. I have a feeling we will get shown up. In a way it teaches them a lesson not to underestimate the other teams in the group.

If England play to draw they'll get hammered. I can't understand why so many people think England are a great team, able to beat anyone, when they fail so often.

VomitStainedCretin

11-20-2007, 09:34 AM

If England play to draw they'll get hammered. I can't understand why so many people think England are a great team, able to beat anyone, when they fail so often.Because their fans are idiots.

Iai

11-20-2007, 09:36 AM

The Sun.

rik

11-20-2007, 09:56 AM

If England play to draw they'll get hammered. I can't understand why so many people think England are a great team, able to beat anyone, when they fail so often.

Probably because they have unbelieveably good players, so should be a better team then they are.

Frankie

11-20-2007, 10:03 AM

^ This.

Britney Diva

11-20-2007, 10:06 AM

England have a few world class players and a bunch of decent players.

Spiney_Norman

11-20-2007, 10:10 AM

Yeah, some world class players, but they never work well as a team (Lampard/Gerrard).
And you're right, the tabloids do try to make out we're the best team ever, while also undermining the manager/FA etc...

Britney Diva

11-20-2007, 10:15 AM

Well Lampard's not a world class. He functions very well in a side like Chelsea, but he's more or less impotent when left to his own devices. Rooney, Owen and Terry are the only truly world-class performers in the England side, assuming the very likely scenario that Gary Neville's best days, if not his entire career, are behind him. Ferdinand is probably on his way to reaching that level, and it'll be another 4 years or so until Richards can be considered in that mould, but that's about it. Everybody else in the squad can be replaced by a player of similar quality with no real gain/loss.

Spiney_Norman

11-20-2007, 11:38 AM

Well Lampard's not a world class.

True, he's terrible at international level. But a good side shouldn't need too many stars, just a solid core who are enthusiastic and want to play, then a couple of quality players to make chances. Otherwise you get everyone wanting to do their own thing and it doesn't work.

Rooney, Owen and Terry are the only truly world-class performers in the England side
...Gerrard?

Pastorius

11-20-2007, 11:41 AM

Gerrrrrrrard!

Britney Diva

11-20-2007, 11:46 AM

The Gerrard cult is easily the most bemusing aspect of the English game for an outsider. He's honestly nowhere near as good as people think he is.

rik

11-20-2007, 12:04 PM

I love gerrard.

Britney Diva

11-20-2007, 12:04 PM

You're a traitor to Newcastle, son. Rob Lee would be appalled.

talk show host

11-20-2007, 12:08 PM

I hear it's a 4-5-1 tomorrow with Crouch as a lone striker and the midfield crammed with as much 'experience' as McLaren can squeeze in. It's going to be such a boring match.

rik

11-20-2007, 12:25 PM

You're a traitor to Newcastle, son. Rob Lee would be appalled.

Meh, I was born in Liverpool and family members support them, so I sort of see them as my second team.

Dead Star

11-20-2007, 01:51 PM

long ball fest tomorrow then.

I hope croatia win due to this.

Spiney_Norman

11-20-2007, 02:34 PM

'Experience' as in Lampard-Gerrard-Beckham? Why the hell doesn't Mcwankstain realise this doesn't work? It'll be boring as hell, either bore draw or sneaky goal (from either side) :angry:

Britney Diva

11-20-2007, 02:51 PM

I bet it'll be 9-7 with all 16 goals scored by Peter Crouch and we'll all eat our words.

rik

11-20-2007, 03:42 PM

To be honest I don't really give a crap if it is a bore draw. As long as we qualify i'm happy.

Iai

11-20-2007, 04:30 PM

I bet it'll be 9-7 with all 16 goals scored by Peter Crouch and we'll all eat our words.
Dude, it's not like he's Sammi Hyppia or something.

Iai

11-20-2007, 04:38 PM

So who would you go for? This'd be my team -

GK - Robinson
DL - A Cole
DR - Richards
DC - Campbell
DC - Lescott
ML - J Cole
MR - Beckham
MC - Barry
MC - Hargreaves
FC - Crouch
FC - Defoe

Sod the 4-5-1.

Ganondorf

11-20-2007, 05:34 PM

Gerrard in for Barry, then yes.

Britney Diva

11-20-2007, 05:37 PM

I don't think A Cole is going to make it, unless there's been developments since this morning.

Frankie

11-20-2007, 06:05 PM

I wish McNo Clue would go for defoe/bent alongside Crouch.

Although getting crappy boring draws and playing 4-5-1 is his speciality.

Iai

11-20-2007, 07:10 PM

Gerrard in for Barry, then yes.
Honestly, I think Gerrard's too complacent at international level, and his recent performances have been mediocre to say the least.

badtaste

11-20-2007, 07:38 PM

Spiney_Norman

11-20-2007, 07:57 PM

Wait a sec... doesn't Defoe suck or something?

Yes.

Britney Diva

11-20-2007, 08:15 PM

Defoe's a great impact player but I wouldn't start him.

Iai

11-20-2007, 08:50 PM

I rate Defoe. Plus he has a point to prove.

sgrevs

11-20-2007, 10:51 PM

Should be Gerrard-Barry in the centre, they work well off each other. Lampard seems to be useless internationally, moreso than Gerrard.
I also think Bent and Crouch up front could work well, with Defoe coming on from the bench.

TakeWarning

11-21-2007, 02:30 AM

Gerrard is not really that good in an England shirt.

In all honesty, I've never really seen the big deal about him in general.

badtaste

11-21-2007, 02:44 AM

Gerrard is not really that good in an England shirt.

In all honesty, I've never really seen the big deal about him in general.

Freak goals.

big80smullet

11-21-2007, 03:02 AM

If you shoot every ball you get ever a couple are bound to go in now and then.

I used to hate peter crouch but ive come to realise that he is the only interesting english player

Echleon

11-21-2007, 09:38 AM

I think if Defoe and Bent do some more work together at Spurs, we could have a great partnership in the works.

I don't see why we are playing Crouch as a lone striker, but with no Beckham to deliver the balls to him. SWP is great, but deliveries are pretty much Beckhams speciality.

Spiney_Norman

11-21-2007, 10:34 AM

Beckham didn't look that fit the other day, could be why he's not starting. Also, SWP actually goes past people, which makes him less predictable than Beckham (just not as good at crossing). Good to see Carson starting too, Robinson's been a liability recently.

Echleon

11-21-2007, 11:37 AM

Yeah I am happy that Carson is in goal, even if he does look abit strange :P

I was just hoping that Macca would play 2 up front, I can't stand the way that England play with just Crouch up there.

Hopefully Gerrard and Lampard will push up abit more.

The_Passenger

11-21-2007, 12:09 PM

I'm not sure how tonight will go. I imagine we'll get at least a draw unless we're particularly poor, but I don't think we'll do too badly. I'll be interested in seeing what Lampard does tonight, considering his sparkling form for Chelsea at the moment. I really don't want to see Beckham start, but the problem with SWP is his crossing, which will need to be good if Crouch is playing alone upfront. Speaking of Crouch, I'm not a fan but he's pretty much the best option we've got. Bring on Bent to inject some pace if things aren't working out.

Dead Star

11-21-2007, 12:24 PM

Robinsons not even on the bench lol

calamity James getting the spot.

talk show host

11-21-2007, 12:33 PM

Robinson must have really ****ed up in training if he can't even make the bench.

Britney Diva

11-21-2007, 01:25 PM

Well he's ****ed up in like 90% of matches for the past 2 years, including against Croatia.

Is this on BBC?

talk show host

11-21-2007, 01:28 PM

Yeah it is. I hope it's on BBC Scotland anyway, you're never sure with the Scots.

Britney Diva

11-21-2007, 01:31 PM

Yeah, BBC Northern Ireland is the same, but they have NI-Spain on BBC2 right now so I assume England will be on 1. It's 0-0 btw, and Sweden are 1-1 away to Latvia, so they're still in with a reasonable chance.

talk show host

11-21-2007, 01:35 PM

Have Sweden got anything to play for or are they already through? It'd be good to see NI make it.

Heh, just saw the pitch at Wembley. Bit wet!

Britney Diva

11-21-2007, 01:39 PM

NI need to beat Spain and for Sweden to lose in order to go through. Anything better than a loss is enough for Sweden, but they're away in Riga so it's easier said than done, plus they rolled over pretty timidly against Spain at the weekend.

Dead Star

11-21-2007, 01:42 PM

Go NI, Seriously.

I would love them to qualify.

talk show host

11-21-2007, 02:15 PM

what is this ****

Timm

11-21-2007, 02:26 PM

my prediction:

england lose 0-3 to croatia but qualify anyway because russia draws with andorra :lol:

germany - wales game sucks =/ and the only other match they're showing is france - ukraine :( I want to watch england - croatia :upset:

ATM

11-21-2007, 02:35 PM

0-2

:eek:

Timm

11-21-2007, 02:43 PM

and 0-1 for russia :amaze:
okay that's not really amazing but you get the point ;)

Britney Diva

11-21-2007, 02:51 PM

Wow. And Northern Ireland are out :(

The_Passenger

11-21-2007, 02:51 PM

Ugh.

I was backing Carson, I guess I was wrong on that one.

We really need another striker to come on. The whole point of having Barry playing the holding row was so that Gerrard and Lampard could get on the end of Crouch's flick ons and it hasn't happened. I thougth that SWP's balls into Crouch would be a problem if there was one but that hasn't been it. Bring on Bent or Defoe and take off Lampard. He and Gerrard have been dreadful but Gerrard has been marginally better. Our defending has been crap as well, whoever it was just standing there playing for offside on the 2nd goal needs to buck their ideas up.

I might even suggest bringing off Carson, something drastic needs to happen.

Britney Diva

11-21-2007, 02:54 PM

Lampard's been invisible. His entire performance is summed up by an opportunity he had to strike at goal from a Crouch knock-down at 0-0. He didn't even try and challenge for the ball and the defender knocked it away easily.

Carson messed up but it's his debut and the conditions are horrible. He should have replaced Robinson a year ago; it's ridiculous that this is the game he's been thrown into.

Defoe on for Lampard is the only change he can really make. Although for some reason I'm convinced he'll bring on Hargreaves for Cole at some point.

The_Passenger

11-21-2007, 02:57 PM

I don't really think the conditions can be blamed for Carson's mess up. It doesn't help but it still wasn't good enough.

I hear Beckham and Defoe are coming on. Considering the balls into Crouch have been good I don't think Beckham will add anything, but Defoe coming on is completely necessary.

Timm

11-21-2007, 02:58 PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

:angry:

germany - wales is horriblehorriblehorriblehorrible

ugh

talk show host

11-21-2007, 02:59 PM

So why is he taking Barry off? Our defence is shocking right now and could surely do with some cover, whereas Lampard has been completely anonymous - I don't think i've even heard his name mentioned once. Plus the whole Gerrard-Lampard thing etc.

It's all a bit depressing really.

Britney Diva

11-21-2007, 03:01 PM

haha what's happened to Germany? It's liked as soon as they got their qualification place they stopped playing football.
I don't really think the conditions can be blamed for Carson's mess up. It doesn't help but it still wasn't good enough.
Well not directly, but it's another factor that's going to make him nervous, and it's showed. He's pretty much afraid to catch the ball now.

The_Passenger

11-21-2007, 03:02 PM

Wait. Lampard is staying on?

Just when I thought by playing Carson McLaren had grown some balls he goes and shows he really hasn't.

Well not directly, but it's another factor that's going to make him nervous, and it's showed. He's pretty much afraid to catch the ball now.

I suppose he can be forgiven given this a is a horrible game given its his comeptitive international debut but I still think he needs to better. Another mistake of that nature certainly wouldn't be forgivable.

ATM

11-21-2007, 03:06 PM

Whats the score in the Ger - Wales match?

Is this a must win for England?

Timm

11-21-2007, 03:09 PM

Whats the score in the Ger - Wales match?

Is this a must win for England?

ger - wales is 0-0 :angry:

it's not a must win if russia would lose or draw in andorra but erm well :D

ugh ugh ugh it's always the last match of the year that sucks, last year it was a lousy 1-1 against cyprus and now this :mad:

ATM

11-21-2007, 03:11 PM

Is Giggs out there for Wales?

Timm

11-21-2007, 03:13 PM

nope, didn't he end his international career or something?

this really depressing to watch

talk show host

11-21-2007, 03:14 PM

Lampard's a hero!

Timm

11-21-2007, 03:15 PM

italy conceided a goal against the faroer islands or whatever they're called :lol:

I read (can't watch the game :angry: ) that the penality was a terrible decision

confirm/deny

Untitled

11-21-2007, 03:47 PM

the england penality was a penny, he clearly pulled his shirt in the box...

Anyway, were out by the looks of things.

ATM

11-21-2007, 03:52 PM

Wow. What a match.

The_Passenger

11-21-2007, 03:53 PM

Well, at least McLaren will be sacked.

Lizparker

11-21-2007, 03:53 PM

So Portugal is in the Euro :D

What happened to England?

Echleon

11-21-2007, 03:55 PM

My god.

Well, that was probably the most tense match i've ever seen.

The_Passenger

11-21-2007, 03:55 PM

What happened to England?

Nothing happened, not recently anyway, we've been crap for a while now.

talk show host

11-21-2007, 03:55 PM

Bugger

Lizparker

11-21-2007, 03:56 PM

Nothing happened, not recently anyway, we've been crap for a while now.

I meant if England was in euro or not >_<

But ok, i say you made it, terrible!

EDIT: You didn't make it, YAY

Timm

11-21-2007, 03:57 PM

Nothing happened, not recently anyway, we've been crap for a while now.

lol

still 5 minutes left in andorra and one russian sent off, there's still hope for you guys ;)

edit: oh wait no, it's over erm hehe sorry

Untitled

11-21-2007, 03:57 PM

Its been on the cards for months now.

We dont deserve to go threw, we've been crap all qualifiers.

If Scotland didn't qualify, we certainly shouldn't of, they've outplayed us all year.

Echleon

11-21-2007, 03:59 PM

Nah it's over :(

Hopefully this will cause some real changes within the Premiership. As the commentators said, we are getting knocked out by foreign players in our own league.

The_Passenger

11-21-2007, 03:59 PM

I meant if England was in euro or not >_<

But ok, i say you made it, terrible!

i knew that

>_>
<_<

Untitled

11-21-2007, 04:01 PM

Nah it's over :(

Hopefully this will cause some real changes within the Premiership. As the commentators said, we are getting knocked out by foreign players in our own league.

You see that interview the other day? Stevie G was saying theres to many forgien players taking opportunity's away from English youths, or something along those lines.

At least McLaren will be gone now.

Timm

11-21-2007, 04:01 PM

lol

from a german footie ticker:
"to anyone who is upset because of the game against wales; go read an english newspaper tomorrow and you'll feel better"

Dead Star

11-21-2007, 04:03 PM

:D England are out

The_Passenger

11-21-2007, 04:04 PM

I really hope there are no quotas. It will massively reduce the standard of the Premier League. Foreign teams beat us because they play better as a team, are better at keeping the ball and they have the technical ability, skill and footballing brain to do something other than lump the ball up to a big frontman. Removing foreigners won't help England improve in those regards.

Echleon

11-21-2007, 04:08 PM

So many of our players are just getting bogged down in the Championship, so they never really get a chance to come up from that because of the cheap price of the foreigners.

I agree though, it isn't really an excuse, if they are good enough, they will come up from the bottom leagues.

I think a prime example could be David Nugent. Comes up from Preston to Portsmouth and now spends most of his time warming the bench whilst Benjani and Kanu play the game.

talk show host

11-21-2007, 04:09 PM

It's not like England were dominating world football when there weren't as many foreigners anyway.

The_Passenger

11-21-2007, 04:14 PM

I think a prime example could be David Nugent. Comes up from Preston to Portsmouth and now spends most of his time warming the bench whilst Benjani and Kanu play the game.

That's because he's rubbish (by prem satndards) though. Never understood the hype about him.

Also, far more important than England (:p), Holloway resigned today. So we all know who Leicester's next boss is going to be, I'm wondering who will take over at Plymouth next.

Britney Diva

11-21-2007, 04:15 PM

If Scott Parker can sign for Chelsea then there's certainly nothing holding English players back from the top clubs.

superpeer

11-21-2007, 04:16 PM

Wow, this EC will be an Eastern European party. Break out the vodka.

Echleon

11-21-2007, 04:17 PM

That's because he's rubbish (by prem satndards) though. Never understood the hype about him.

Also, far more important than England (:p), Holloway resigned today. So we all know who Leicester's next boss is going to be, I'm wondering who will take over at Plymouth next.

I think his initals will be SM :P

DonMancini

11-21-2007, 04:19 PM

Dammit, now that England's out we won't be able to witness the customary losing to Portugal on Penaltys :( lol

I'm just kidding of course, I sort of feel bad for you guys. Hopefully this'll bring about changes and you guys will be back full strength next time around. Who do you guys reckon might replace McLaren? I heard some talk about capello, amongst others, but I highly doubt it.

Timm

11-21-2007, 04:19 PM

the teams at the euro 08
hosts: switzerland, austria
qualified:
germany
france
greece
italy
croatia
netherlands
chezhhdchhsslowakaia (that team with rosicky)
poland
russia
portugal
sweden
romania
spain
turkey

:wave:

Echleon

11-21-2007, 04:22 PM

Holland play in orange so that makes them automatically awesome.

superpeer

11-21-2007, 04:26 PM

chezhhdchhsslowakaia (that team with rosicky)

Haha, dude, the Czechs and the Slovakians broke up a while ago, get with the times. :p

Holland play in orange so that makes them automatically awesome.

You wouldn't say that if you had buses of orange drunks arriving in your country constantly. >:[

Dead Star

11-21-2007, 04:28 PM

How did Belgium do tonight?

1-0 last time I seen, always nice to see them doing well.

Timm

11-21-2007, 04:29 PM

Haha, dude, the Czechs and the Slovakians broke up a while ago, get with the times. :p

You wouldn't say that if you had buses of orange drunks arriving in your country constantly. >:[

wow it really alomst spelt slowaika at the end, I just didn't know the englisch name of the country and hit random keys :lol:

FuzzyDuck

11-21-2007, 04:30 PM

Croatia really outclassed England today :-(
I think English coaches should start putting more emphasis on developing technical ability, instead of teaching youngsters to punt the ball forward at every opportunity. It's like English players have never heard of subtlety. Also, Modric looks like a class player.

superpeer

11-21-2007, 04:31 PM

How did Belgium do tonight?

1-0 last time I seen, always nice to see them doing well.

They won, but winning from Azerbeidjan or however you spell that country in English is hardly an achievement.

They've been doing very poorly the last two years, they didn't even come close to qualifying. I really hope they get their act together, because we used to be a subtop team that deserved respect, but now we're just bad.

wow it really alomst spelt slowaika at the end, I just didn't know the englisch name of the country and hit random keys

wow, that was coincidental? That is creepy. <-<

Lizparker

11-21-2007, 04:48 PM

Dammit, now that England's out we won't be able to witness the customary losing to Portugal on Penaltys :( lol

Yeah, I was hoping to see another Portugal - England . It would be so exciting but meh ):

superpeer

11-21-2007, 04:56 PM

Now I'll have to root for some foreign team again.

VomitStainedCretin

11-21-2007, 05:10 PM

Carson made up for his mistake with a couple of goal-saving stops; Barry and Shaun Wright Phillips should never have been substituted, though Beckham got in a couple of very good crosses and Defoe on occassion made himself felt as a presence in the box. Lampard was sh1te.

The_Passenger

11-21-2007, 05:24 PM

I think his initals will be SM :P

*shoots self*

Frankie

11-21-2007, 05:55 PM

erm

MOURINHO FOR ENGLAND

that is all I have to say about that really.

Mc No Clue has to go now. What a terrible terrible coach. As for the players Lampard was a disgrace, Bridge is a ****ing mug and the only decent english player on the night got subbed.

Not good enough I'm afraid. The base of the english pyramid needs to developed upon. There needs to be quoatas put in I don't care if it brings down the premiership. Opportunities need to be made for young english players to be playing week in week throughout the top teams in england. Maybe financial incentives could be the answer. Of course the Arse-hole would be buggered then but yano swings and roundabouts and all that crap.

Britney Diva

11-21-2007, 05:57 PM

There needs to be quoatas put in I don't care if it brings down the premiership.
And English players.

Spiney_Norman

11-21-2007, 06:47 PM

God, that was terrible. Mcwankhead must love fat frank so much, why the hell wasnt he subbed? Carson had a mare, poor guy, and the defence was a shambles... ugh.
Probly should be a quota, or at least something, England have absolutely no vision or skill at the mo.
Also, SM says he won't resign: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7100393.stm

VomitStainedCretin

11-21-2007, 07:15 PM

If SM doesn't resign and the FA don't fire him, I think mob justice will sort things out... :)

badtaste

11-21-2007, 07:25 PM

Not good enough I'm afraid. The base of the english pyramid needs to developed upon. There needs to be quoatas put in I don't care if it brings down the premiership. Opportunities need to be made for young english players to be playing week in week throughout the top teams in england. Maybe financial incentives could be the answer. Of course the Arse-hole would be buggered then but yano swings and roundabouts and all that crap.

One of our soccer TV personalities down here is always ranting about how England's system sucks, valuing "fast play over good" and a product of "poor youth coaching". Here's another quote:

Our play (like the English) is based on physical strength and fitness, a lack of technical skill, little emphasis on ball retention, a mentality to get the ball forward as early as possible, and a complete disregard for the skillful football artist.

So yeh, :thumb:

Untitled

11-21-2007, 08:38 PM

If SM doesn't resign and the FA don't fire him, I think mob justice will sort things out... :)

Ahhh, Mob Justice.

The fashions of the year seems to be 80's based, so we may as well bring back some Hooliganism aswell to get rid of the fukker!

I was watching sky news when i saw he wasnt going to quit, my reaction was "oh fuk off you twat"

Hopefully the FA will fire him.

rik

11-21-2007, 08:39 PM

Seriously, why is Mclaren playing a 22 year old who has basically no international experience in goal. And why did Lampard start, and play the full 90 minutes of the game when he contributed nothing (anyone at this level should've scored the pen). And why the **** have we not qualified in a group that involve Macedonia and Andorra, two countries i've never heard of.

**** Mclaren and Venebles and the whole English team that thgouht they were too good for this group.

I'm ****ing devastated, and will be more be when the tournamebt actually starts.

superpeer

11-21-2007, 08:40 PM

in a group that involve Macedonia and Andorra, two countries i've never heard of.

:rolleyes:

Pastorius

11-21-2007, 09:07 PM

This is as good as a victory for Wales :D

The_Passenger

11-22-2007, 04:22 AM

Not good enough I'm afraid. The base of the english pyramid needs to developed upon. There needs to be quoatas put in I don't care if it brings down the premiership. Opportunities need to be made for young english players to be playing week in week throughout the top teams in england. Maybe financial incentives could be the answer. Of course the Arse-hole would be buggered then but yano swings and roundabouts and all that crap.

Reducing the standard of the league won't make English players better. The only way it could work at all is over a long period of time where you slowly increase the number of English players who have to be in a starting XI and even then I'm dubious. At any rate I believe that international standard players will come through anyway. Look at Arsene Wenger, he has no problem bringing young players through the ranks, and the reason that there are very few English players in his squad isn't down to them being English. There need to be changes at youth levels to teach our youngsters how to actually play football instead of just punt the ball upfield imho.

edit: at least McLaren has been fired

rik

11-22-2007, 05:49 AM

Ganondorf

11-22-2007, 06:17 AM

Disgraceful. WE WANT THE SPECIAL ONE!!

Untitled

11-22-2007, 06:23 AM

^^ Shame he said a few weeks back he dosnt want the england job atm.

But hopefully he will do it anyway.

talk show host

11-22-2007, 06:24 AM

I'm feeling quite positive about it all today now. I really hope we get someone decent in, and Mourinho would be brilliant but who knows if he'll take it?

Apparently Capello has said he wants it. Could do a lot lot worse than him.

As long as it's not Shearer please.

big80smullet

11-22-2007, 06:34 AM

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

stuart pierce for england!

badtaste

11-22-2007, 06:39 AM

Yeah, Mourinho will want to manage a respectable and competitive team... like Australia!

VomitStainedCretin

11-22-2007, 06:51 AM

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

stuart pierce for england!He'd at least put primadonna twats like Ashley Cole in their place.

Iai

11-22-2007, 07:00 AM

Pearce would be a better manager than just about anybody else who's been put in the frame recently, Capello aside.

Untitled

11-22-2007, 07:09 AM

Mark Lawenson or whatever hes called, has said we should try and puswade arsne wenger to do it.

Britney Diva

11-22-2007, 08:15 AM

^^ Shame he said a few weeks back he dosnt want the england job atm.

But hopefully he will do it anyway.
haha I'm pretty sure Mourinho would do anything to get in the papers, and the England job pretty much guarantees massive coverage.

So it looks like this Celtic Cup idea will go ahead next year between Scotland, Wales and the Irelands. They were apparently going to invite England in on the assumption they wouldn't accept, but now you've got a free schedule in 2008 I wonder if the FA will reconsider. Semi-competitive internationals are better than meaningless friendlies and all that.

superpeer

11-22-2007, 08:24 AM

Should've invited Spain, France and Belgium too, they're all a bit Celtic too. :o

Britney Diva

11-22-2007, 08:27 AM

Massively gay, though :o

superpeer

11-22-2007, 08:35 AM

Yes, but, we didn't qualify. PLEASE GIVE US SOMETHING TO DO.

Britney Diva

11-22-2007, 08:42 AM

Elect a stable government and we'll talk.

Echleon

11-22-2007, 09:15 AM

Omg just had the most amazing match on FIFA online.

Newcastle vs Lyon.

I was 2-1 down but managed to grab one back in the 87th minute to make it 2-2, but the Lyon scored in the 91st minute to make it 3-2!

So, I charged down from kick-off with Martins and skinned one player, took a crack from about 40 yards, it took a deflection off the defender and went in! 3-3!

Managed to score with Ameobi in the 115th minute to win 4-3! Martins scored a hat-trick :D

So yeah, I think the Celtic Cup thing will have to go ahead, or no England shirts will be sold for about 2-3 years lol.

superpeer

11-22-2007, 09:29 AM

Elect a stable government and we'll talk.

Okay, give us another year. We elected one anyway, I went to vote months and months ago, they just haven't formed yet. But yeah. <-<

Omg just had the most amazing match on FIFA online.

Newcastle vs Lyon

when was this

Echleon

11-22-2007, 09:48 AM

Urhmm... about 45 minutes ago on Xbox Live -.-

Frankie

11-22-2007, 10:18 AM

Thank god for that. He should've never been given the job in the first place.

Capello and Mourinho for the england job.

And a major overhaul of our coaching system needs to be done. Yano actually focus on technical skill. I'm sure we could get some good foreign coaches in to do it as well.

DonMancini

11-22-2007, 10:22 AM

If capello was your coach, I'd definitely root for you guys more. You might not be amazingly entertaining to watch, but you'd be winners.

Mourinho is also quality, we'll see what happens.

Best of luck.

Echleon

11-22-2007, 10:26 AM

I agree that Capello would be a good shout, he has also stated that he wants the job.

I think the chance of Mourinho coming is pretty much nil. He's a manager in his prime and to have 3 years without a major tournament, and nearly a year without a real competitive game (2010 qualifiers) wouldn't really satisy him.

He has also stated that International jobs are for people who 'Don't like to work much'.

Britney Diva

11-22-2007, 10:31 AM

English players have plenty of technical skill, they just don't know how to use it. The English game needs more intelligence training, not technicality.

Frankie

11-22-2007, 10:39 AM

I do love this article I found on the BBC's website : http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A29396028

The_Passenger

11-22-2007, 10:40 AM

Robbo sucks man

Echleon

11-22-2007, 10:51 AM

That was a great article.

'Closely marked by the ghosts of England's past, but not the players on the pitch'

superpeer

11-22-2007, 11:21 AM

Urhmm... about 45 minutes ago on Xbox Live -.-

Oh right, keep your nerdy shite in the video games thread, you bastard! >:[

Echleon

11-22-2007, 11:26 AM

Hey, it's football so that should make it alright :P

superpeer

11-22-2007, 11:57 AM

Well, you're still a bastard. :o

Frankie

11-22-2007, 02:55 PM

My personal favourite from that article has to be

'And suddenly I'm free! Free from the tyranny of supporting a bunch of pampered, overpaid plonkers who couldn't successfully make a pass at a speed-dating session for 40-year old virgins.'

:lol:

Spiney_Norman

11-23-2007, 05:27 AM

Apparantly Benitez might be interested in being manager:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7108721.stm
Could be interesting...

Pastorius

11-23-2007, 06:34 AM

Benitez to England and Mourinho to Liverpool! I'd be happy with that.

badtaste

11-23-2007, 07:47 AM

Hey hey, Zola wants to coach the Socceroos. That'd be interesting.

Lizparker

11-23-2007, 07:54 AM

I wish Mourinho would coach our national team, we'd go far!

Britney Diva

11-23-2007, 08:03 AM

O'Neill's ruled himself out of the England race. Venables is in the frame for Ireland UGH.

edit: hahaha I love Sky News

"Martin O'Neill has ruled himself out. How seriously should we take that?"

Oh gosh, you should probably just ignore it and hire him anyway!

Also world cup seedings announced. England and Scotland second seed, Ireland and Northern Ireland third, Wales fourth. Could be worse I suppose.

http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=490231

VomitStainedCretin

11-23-2007, 02:35 PM

Hey hey, Zola wants to coach the Socceroos. That'd be interesting.Indeed; was one of my favourite players and I hope he does well as a coach.

superpeer

11-23-2007, 03:13 PM

Timm

11-23-2007, 05:11 PM

I really think klinsmann would make a good manager for england. well he was for germany at least. eventhough he's not that strong in terms of tactic, that's what löw was for.

my euro dream group:

germany, france, netherlands, italy
germany and italy going through just to meet again in the semi final where we'll take revenge :D

superpeer

11-23-2007, 05:16 PM

Chances are you wouldn't go through in that group. :p

Timm

11-23-2007, 05:21 PM

we'd go through with 9 points and 12-0 goals!

:mad:

superpeer

11-23-2007, 05:38 PM

Ja, sure!

Timm

11-23-2007, 05:58 PM

meh at least we will be in some group :D

Britney Diva

11-23-2007, 06:05 PM

Did anyone hear about Holland supposedly throwing their game against Belarus so they wouldn't be first seed for the EC draw? Supposedly the same reason Germany were so poor against the Czechs. The first pool contains Austria, Switzerland and Greece, so everybody wants to be second seed on the chance they draw one of them.

Timm

11-23-2007, 06:15 PM

too bad the netherlands are first pool now anyway :lol:

I didn't watch our boys playing the czechs but during the wales game it was constantly assumed as well that they're playing crappy because they don't want to get in the first pool meh idk

Britney Diva

11-23-2007, 06:16 PM

haha really? I thought Italy would get the last spot.

Timm

11-23-2007, 06:20 PM

yup the last spot is given to the team with best coefficient from wc 06 qualification and euro 08 qualification
1. netherlands(2,417)
2. croatia(2,409)
3. italy (2,364)

tehehe

superpeer

11-23-2007, 06:23 PM

meh at least we will be in some group :D

Pff. :p

It's easier to be better with 8 times the population.

Did anyone hear about Holland supposedly throwing their game against Belarus so they wouldn't be first seed for the EC draw? Supposedly the same reason Germany were so poor against the Czechs. The first pool contains Austria, Switzerland and Greece, so everybody wants to be second seed on the chance they draw one of them.

That would be lame.

RATL

11-23-2007, 06:37 PM

So yeah, England got owned lol!

/old news

Britney Diva

11-23-2007, 06:38 PM

yup the last spot is given to the team with best coefficient from wc 06 qualification and euro 08 qualification
1. netherlands(2,417)
2. croatia(2,409)
3. italy (2,364)

tehehe
aw they were so close :(

Timm

11-23-2007, 06:44 PM

I think I'll bet 10 € on each croatia winning the euro and switzerland winning the euro on bwin or something just for fun :)

maybe also on austria but I really really can't see that happening. I'd get 1010 € for 10 € though...and I could annoy everyone saying "see I saw it coming I knew it all along!"

Britney Diva

11-23-2007, 06:49 PM

Timm

11-23-2007, 06:57 PM

it's the highest odds for any winner =/ they must have learned from that greece victory it seems
I'm not too familiar with betting :D
I'd just do it to have a couple of teams to root for if germany fails
for croatia it's 15/1 and switzerland is 23/1, tis good?

Kayetan

11-23-2007, 07:02 PM

lsu lost
yeah

Timm

11-23-2007, 07:04 PM

what

Britney Diva

11-23-2007, 07:10 PM

Switzerland have no chance. I might take up that Croatia bet myself. I think they might struggle against the likes of Italy, Netherlands and Spain, but they're definitely a dark horse.

Kayetan

11-23-2007, 07:12 PM

whatim talking about american collegiate football man

man dont you see

Timm

11-23-2007, 07:14 PM

I'll do all three bets.
it's just 30 € I would have spent on beer otherwise.
and betting on germany (5/1) italy (5.5/1) and the likes is just lame

VomitStainedCretin

11-23-2007, 07:29 PM

haha Austria were beaten by a half-strength English team at home. That would be like the time my Grandad put £100 on both Brazil and Greece to win the 1994 World Cup, and still lost money.

Also 100/1 isn't really good odds for Austria, must be German solidarity or something at workAustria are rated 80-something in the world, below teams like Cyprus (though Cyprus actually did very well for themselves in the qualifiers).

DonMancini

11-23-2007, 11:59 PM

rik

11-24-2007, 09:24 AM

**** Newcastle.

badtaste

11-24-2007, 09:55 AM

Cahillllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

superpeer

11-24-2007, 10:41 AM

I hope Switzerland wins. =')

RATL

11-24-2007, 10:47 AM

how can you like the swiss?

VomitStainedCretin

11-24-2007, 11:03 AM

Another away victory for Pompey, even if it was only Birmingham :)

:lol: Sunderland got truly pwned

Britney Diva

11-24-2007, 11:17 AM

haha I think their first drubbing has been coming for a while, and Everton were the perfect side to dish it out. I wonder how they'll react to it.

VomitStainedCretin

11-24-2007, 11:22 AM

haha I think their first drubbing has been coming for a while, and Everton were the perfect side to dish it out. I wonder how they'll react to it.Roy Keane's fury will probably be audible throughout most of north-east England and south-east Scotland.

Britney Diva

11-24-2007, 11:23 AM

You'll probably be able to see it too

superpeer

11-24-2007, 11:55 AM

how can you like the swiss?

I don't know, I've always liked Switzerland for some reason.

Frankie

11-24-2007, 01:11 PM

Bloody hell 3-0 at home :(

Summat needs sorting out at the riverside. Southgate needs to go.

VomitStainedCretin

11-24-2007, 06:15 PM

Bloody hell 3-0 at home :(

Summat needs sorting out at the riverside. Southgate needs to go.Yeah, plus he's an ugly cvnt as well; seriously, is he half-man, half-horse or something....

sgrevs

11-24-2007, 07:24 PM

Wow, Liverpool played amazingly (even if it was only against Newcastle). But seriously, I felt like I was watching Arsenal, the passing and movement was that fluid and amazing. Gerrards goal was a screamer and Babel's goal was beautiful like that ridiculous Argentinian goal from the 06 WC against Serbia that Cambiasso scored.

(This one) http://youtube.com/watch?v=z0O7KkZn4rk

but seriously it was a great game to watch. Torres had a blinder but should have scored a few.

Pastorius

11-24-2007, 08:32 PM

We were fantastic today, Liverpool are so great to watch when we're on form. Gerrard's goal, I mean, wow. That many rockets can't be luck! Torres should have scored yes, but he can't keep not scoring, and once he does it's goals galore, he gets into the best positions and bamboozles defenders with ease.

Oh, and, on a lighter note, HA HA UNITED YOU CUNTS

VomitStainedCretin

11-24-2007, 09:21 PM

Oh, and, on a lighter note, HA HA UNITED YOU CUNTSMy traditional animosity towards Man U was pleased today.

Timm

11-24-2007, 11:39 PM

I don't know, I've always liked Switzerland for some reason.

I like it, too.
I think I like it because they don't get involved in wars and stuff and manage the warlords money instead. It's quite clever.

you probably don't know the guy but ivan klasnic has made his comeback in the bundesliga. he's had a kidney transplant about a year ago and doctors said he'd never be able to play football again on a professionel level. It really made me a bit :') when I saw him playing :)

Cecillianne

11-25-2007, 06:13 AM

like i said earlier, Gerrard's set pieces have improved majorly since last season. and Liverpool, ah what a performance. granted Newcastle was cringingly awful, but the passing was good and there was hardly any movement.

Torres's confidence prob took a little knock though, i felt a little sorry for him heh.

talk show host

11-25-2007, 10:27 AM

lol England drew Croatia again.

Group 1
Portugal
Sweden
Denmark
Hungary
Albania
Malta

Group 2
Greece
Israel
Switzerland
Moldova
Latvia
Luxembourg

Group 3
Czech Republic
Poland
Northern Ireland
Slovakia
Slovenia
San Marino

Group 4
Germany
Russia
Finland
Wales
Azerbaijan
Liechtenstein

Group 5
Spain
Turkey
Belgium
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Armenia
Estonia

Group 6
Croatia
England
Ukraine
Belarus
Kazakhstan
Andorra

Group 7
France
Romania
Serbia
Lithuania
Austria
Faroe Islands

Group 8
Italy
Bulgaria
Republic Of Ireland
Cyprus
Georgia
Montenegro

Group 9
Netherlands
Scotland
Norway
FYR Macedonia
Iceland

Britney Diva

11-25-2007, 10:52 AM

HAHAHA Kazakhstan! Looks like we'll be seeing Fat Frankie in a thong after all.

Decent group for the Republic. Could've done without Italy, means we're basically playing for second spot with Bulgaria, which will also be tough. Cyprus took 4 points from us in qualifying, but they're a pretty awful side so I'm not worried about that, but Georgia is a nightmare trip for every team, so results there might determine the final outcome.

It's about as good a draw as England could have asked for, really, with the possible exception of the dire group 2. Scotland showed that Ukraine aren't really up to much, and the Croatia fixture will have a nice edge to it. Northern Ireland have a great draw all things considered. After Greece, the Czechs are the weakest pool one side, and Poland are definitely doable. As ever, NI might be inclined to slip up against sides which would no be considered weaker than them.

Scotland have reasonably good odds of emerging from their group. Depending on early results, I'd expect them to make a charge for first place, and lel @ Wales.

talk show host

11-25-2007, 11:23 AM

It should be straightforward enough for England hopefully. Croatia will be interesting but at least we've avoided the real powerhouses. If we don't find some consistency though I can see us stuttering on some of the trips to Eastern Europe.

On current form Scotland should push the Netherlands all the way. Not really sure about NI and the ROI. NI could feasibly get second which would give them a chance unless Healy breaks his leg or something. Hard to say with the ROI but hopefully their Reading contingent will see them through :cool:

And yeah, Wales are screwed but that always happens.

Frankie

11-25-2007, 11:32 AM

ROI could push for 2nd spot like

superpeer

11-25-2007, 12:38 PM

I like it, too.
I think I like it because they don't get involved in wars and stuff and manage the warlords money instead. It's quite clever.

you probably don't know the guy but ivan klasnic has made his comeback in the bundesliga. he's had a kidney transplant about a year ago and doctors said he'd never be able to play football again on a professionel level. It really made me a bit :') when I saw him playing :)

Yeah, that's not what we can say about you guys. :p

And I think I know him, actually. =)

Group 5
Spain
Turkey
Belgium
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Armenia
Estonia

Oh man. =(

That's one of the hardest groups in there. Watch all the Turks here make fun of us again. >:[

Yeah, we're ****ed.

Untitled

11-25-2007, 03:18 PM

I quite like our group, should qualify.

I mean, these cant be hard to beat can they....

http://www.sundayleague.com/cutenews/data/upimages/borat.jpg

superpeer

11-25-2007, 03:46 PM

I quite like our group, should qualify.

I mean, these cant be hard to beat can they....

http://www.sundayleague.com/cutenews/data/upimages/borat.jpg

They were in our Euro 2008 qualification group, pretty sure both games were draws, sadly enough. :\

Pastorius

11-25-2007, 06:27 PM

Come on Waaaaaaales

Sure winners this time round.

And Keane was robbed of a penalty today, which is a bit gay, I like Spurs.

Dead Star

11-25-2007, 06:50 PM

Not too pleased with that group to be honest, although they're not the force they were, Netherlands are still a dangerous team. Norway and Moldova arent exactly pushovers either. Iceland have some decent players too.

Pastorius

11-25-2007, 07:11 PM

Van Persie, Babel, Van Der Sar, a lot of good players there.

superpeer

11-25-2007, 07:11 PM

Dude Iceland lost from ****ing Liechtenstein, the only country that has ever lost from San Marino. :p

badtaste

11-25-2007, 09:18 PM

VomitStainedCretin

11-25-2007, 09:32 PM

For those who care (like myself!):

AFC Qualifying Round 3:

Group 1
Australia, China PR, Iraq, Qatar

Group 2
Japan, Bahrain, Oman, Thailand

Group 3
Korea Republic, Korea DPR, Jordan, Turkmenistan

Group 4
Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Lebanon, Singapore

Group 5
Iran, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Syria

Group 1 is the group of death. Australia, Iraq, and China! Tough stuff.My favourites to win groups bolded; Iraq are Asian champions and seem to have lots of young talent, I think they may edge the Aussies. Korean derby may be interesting.

Another "easy" qualification group for England, can they screw this one uip as well?!?

Britney Diva

11-25-2007, 09:34 PM

Are Iraq really good? After Australia's performance in the World Cup I'd expect them to go through, but after Viduka's woeful performance on Saturday I'm not entirely convinced he cares anymore.

VomitStainedCretin

11-25-2007, 09:40 PM

Are Iraq really good? After Australia's performance in the World Cup I'd expect them to go through, but after Viduka's woeful performance on Saturday I'm not entirely convinced he cares anymore.I've never watched them but as I said, they are Asian champions, as well as having done very well in the Olympics a while back. I am given the impression they also have some pretty good club football. If it's still one country in 2010 they've got a good chance of qualification from the sounds of things.

Britney Diva

11-25-2007, 09:42 PM

If it's still one country in 2010
haha good point

edit: and how come Syria and Jordan are in AFC but Egypt and Tunisia are part of Africa?

badtaste

11-25-2007, 09:43 PM

My favourites to win groups bolded; Iraq are Asian champions and seem to have lots of young talent, I think they may edge the Aussies. Korean derby may be interesting.

Another "easy" qualification group for England, can they screw this one uip as well?!?

Are Iraq really good? After Australia's performance in the World Cup I'd expect them to go through, but after Viduka's woeful performance on Saturday I'm not entirely convinced he cares anymore.

Yeah, Iraq are a pretty gun team by the looks of it. I think if Australia are any chance to reach the WC, we're going to need a good coach. We had Hiddink in 06, and did well. We had Graham Arnold for the Asian Cup, and we got owned.

But anyways, since Iraq are supposedly better than Australia now, that makes us underdogs again! YAY!

Britney Diva

11-25-2007, 09:45 PM

Looks like we're about to get Venables, one of your cast-offs. Yay!

VomitStainedCretin

11-25-2007, 09:48 PM

Well, I just checked and the Aussies are 48th in the FIFA rankings, whereas Iraq are 70th; I think it'll definitely be close as a group and interesting. Plus China should never be underestimated.

Britney Diva

11-25-2007, 09:54 PM

heh, well sometimes fate screws you over and you draw those sides who are rapidly advancing well beyond their FIFA ranking. Spain and Sweden got a scare with Northern Ireland this time around.

Ganondorf

11-26-2007, 01:59 AM

England vs Croatia again...we want blood.

Cecillianne

11-26-2007, 02:20 AM

Another "easy" qualification group for England, can they screw this one uip as well?!?
you'd be suprised!!!

i watched Iraq during the AFC semis. they're alright, Australia technically should be better on paper but i think it was the whole situation in Iraq that spurred them on than anything else. not taking away any credit for their football though, they play some nice quick attacking stuff and have a great goalkeeper.

fyi Australia took a beating in AFC because of the weather :smoke:

Pastorius

11-26-2007, 07:32 AM

The player with the most international goals ever plays for Iran

can't blame it on the weather! you should be prepared

badtaste

11-26-2007, 07:35 AM

you'd be suprised!!!

i watched Iraq during the AFC semis. they're alright, Australia technically should be better on paper but i think it was the whole situation in Iraq that spurred them on than anything else. not taking away any credit for their football though, they play some nice quick attacking stuff and have a great goalkeeper.

fyi Australia took a beating in AFC because of the weather :smoke:

The player with the most international goals ever plays for Iran

can't blame it on the weather! you should be prepared

yeah, was just about to say, blaming it on the weather is weaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkk.

btw, just read that the Derby manager has been sacked. Who cares, they're going to be relegated anyway (unless they sign me soon)

talk show host

11-26-2007, 08:14 AM

Yeah i'm not sure what Derby are expecting to achieve with a new manager to be honest.

There were quite a few rumours over the weekend that Benitez had walked too but that doesn't seem to have happened. Could just be a matter of time for him though.

big80smullet

11-26-2007, 08:16 AM

Benitez going? wtf for isnt he doing well?

fulham snatch a draw for the jaws of victory once again.

Maureenyo for aussie coach!

sweboy

11-26-2007, 08:22 AM

edit: and how come Syria and Jordan are in AFC but Egypt and Tunisia are part of Africa?

Well... http://mabryonline.org/blogs/howard/archives/n_africa_mid_east_pol_95.jpg :)
The player with the most international goals ever plays for Iran

can't blame it on the weather! you should be prepared

Yeah but he made them all against Laos and Pakistan and such. ^____^ And he has retired.

Anyway Sweden's group looks tough. Possibly the toughest even. :/

Cecillianne

11-26-2007, 08:25 AM

yeah, was just about to say, blaming it on the weather is weaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkk.
it shouldn't be underestimated though. they got in at a bad time as well, it was effing hot, humid and it poured buckets on numerous occasions. asian weather is pretty intense.

liverpool supporters should be very, very, very worried :/ nasty political turmoil boiling over, and ffs we're just starting to get on form. apparently the issues is when and not if anymore.

i am personally shitting in my pants in fear

ChodaBoy

11-26-2007, 08:29 AM

Rafa needs to shut up tbh, they have bought enough players, and have this rotation policy in place to keep them happy. If they cant win with those, it says alot about his managerial skills

Cecillianne

11-26-2007, 08:37 AM

he wants to seal Masch, cover for CB and sell off the likes of JAR. hardly any extravagant demands. it's more the fact that he banged home how slow Liverpool has been in the transfer market when the takeover was taking place, seemingly got support from the yanks about it and now the new owners are delaying

Pastorius

11-26-2007, 08:41 AM

I would like Rafa to stay, he's a good manager.

And you still can't blame it on the weather, both teams have to play in it. If they're used to it, that's because they've trained for it and you haven't.

badtaste

11-26-2007, 08:43 AM

it shouldn't be underestimated though. they got in at a bad time as well, it was effing hot, humid and it poured buckets on numerous occasions. asian weather is pretty intense.

liverpool supporters should be very, very, very worried :/ nasty political turmoil boiling over, and ffs we're just starting to get on form. apparently the issues is when and not if anymore.

i am personally shitting in my pants in fear

Yeah, I'm sure that the weather did have an effect, but blaming anything else but yourself is usually weak.