Euro 2008 (Official LOL Vidic Thread)

[Ganondorf]

I'd agree with the creativity thing I guess, Henry is more creative though, and maybe Fabregas.

[sgrevs]

I think it's such a shame about Henry. The Premier League has lost ones of its greatest men ever. I have no reason to like Arsenal in the slightest now.

[RandyfromPennywise]

I went with:

Sorensøn, Terry, Moore, Emerton, Mellberg, Lamps, Ronaldo, Essien, Gamst, Reo-Cocker, Torres and Berbatov, but I'll change it heaps no doubt.

[angry armadillo]

maybe you should pick some iraqi players, randy. :p

[RandyfromPennywise]

maybe you should pick some iraqi players, randy. :p

Go away :upset:

[2muchket!]

I've just looked at the groups of the Asian Cup. Wtf ? Australia in 3rd ?

BTW the teams in their group are Oman, Iraq and Thailand !

Whats going on here Randy ?

[Cecillianne]

Iraq is playing well. Thailand's been having some fantastic luck tbh, and the home adv helps.

Australia's a big time letdown. their defence are in shambles, i think it was the 2nd or 3rd goal where they really screwed up. i bought those goddamn semis tickets just to watch them :mad:

[2muchket!]

Sunderland have signed Chopra and Kieran Richardson is having a medical on Monday.

[rik]

So apparently Malouda shined in Chelsea's first pre season game. Scored one and set up one for a 2-1 win over club America.

[poorquality]

Copa America final tonight

22:05 ko

Brazil vs Argentina...anyone else watching it? Should be a great game.

Argentina should win though, they have a full squad whereas Brazil are missing some key players who didn't travel for the tournament like Ronaldinho and Kaka.

[angry armadillo]

i will be out but im taping it, go argentina!

[ATM]

Go Argentina, indeed :D

[Pinhead13]

I'd assume babel is coming:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/babelDM1107_468x642.jpg

but not heard news on Yossi coming yet although it seems to be pretty certain (dont know why we are signing him though :()

Last night I bought a Liverpool jersey from the 05/06 season. :D

[Echleon]

1-0 Brazil.

I don't know how to feel about it, as i'm British, I guess I have to hate the Argies, but they do play a rather beautiful game.

EDIT: 2-0 :O

[Pinhead13]

1-0 Brazil.

I don't know how to feel about it, as i'm British, I guess I have to hate the Argies, but they do play a rather beautiful game.

EDIT: 2-0 :O

Bleeeehhhhh.......I missed the first half.:angry:

[Pinhead13]

Nice own goal.

[Echleon]

I didn't see any of the game, just got my live-football-scores.co.uk constantly on the refresh lol.

[Pinhead13]

I didn't see any of the game, just got my live-football-scores.co.uk constantly on the refresh lol.

Its in Spanish.

http://www.univision.com/contentroot/uol/30deportes/content/jhtml/copa_america/NOMETA_partidosEnVivo.jhtml

[ATM]

Brazil dominated that game quite a bit. Argentina had maybe 2-3 good shots on goal and thats it.

[angry armadillo]

im suprised brazil won, they seemed to be under performing and then came good for the final.

[poorquality]

That's always their way...the play how they have to, to progress, then they hit a final and turn it on lol

[ChodaBoy]

3 Teams raided for suspected corruption in football, 1 is Newcastle, I suspect another is Man City (just to f it all up), dont know about the other.

*fingers crossed for Chelsea* :p

[angry armadillo]

yup im hoping for chelsea too, although i think the rumour of it being a london club has come up because it was the london police force that went to NUFC

other rumours are suggesting its Portsmouth and Bolton

[ChodaBoy]

I think they're names are being used because of the transfer stuff from a while back. Im not saying it isnt those teams, just that they would be the most obvious choices

[angry armadillo]

rangers have confirmed that they co-operated with police this morning

ive read portsmouth is the 3rd but no source so....

[ATM]

What kind of suspected corruption?

[ChodaBoy]

Portsmouth the 3rd club, so the speculation will be on Allardyce and Redknapp then

[angry armadillo]

its linked to souness apparently

[talk show host]

oh jeez what's harry been up to now

[angry armadillo]

voronin is looking good here against bremen: http://www.dailymotion.com/search/liverpool+bremen/video/x2kaof_liverpool-32-werder-bremen-all-the

hopefully it will be torres doing all the work and voronin poaching them all in fowler style :cool:

[Minus The Flair]

corrr this place is dead. lack of decent news and achingly long time between seasons makes me football sad. this made me laugh however.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1079/kallstromclosepp0.jpg

picture of kallstrom after scoring winner in the peace cup against bolton. anddd, fowlers gone to cardiff city. dead.

[ChodaBoy]

It was very obvious Fowler wouldnt go to Sydney, he wouldnt be able to keep tabs on his 100 houses if he was on the other side of the world

[2muchket!]

Luke Young coming to boro. Gerrin. Tevez deal rumbles on amidst controversy. Altho FIFA are now involved so it should be sorted quick.

[Reactor158]

hey guys....as somewhat of a new (but obsessed) football fan, does anyone know of a website that allows you to stream football matches for free?

[metal-militia]

I think Luke Young is a very good player, and 2.5 million is a great deal for Boro.
Freddie Ljungberg's gone to West Ham today for 3 million.

[Echleon]

Ljumberg to West Ham.

[poorquality]

United won 6-0 in todays friendly :] anyone watching the Asia Tour? Nani made a good debut marked with a goal.

The opposition were no where near our quality, but that's to be expected, though some players still showed exceptional skill and ability, Rooney and Ronaldo on top form (Rooneys goal was sweet)

[talk show host]

I saw the goals. Eagles' goal was immense.

Still think he looks awkward as hell on the ball though.

[Dead Star]

Ljumberg to West Ham.

I was like :eek: when i seen that

[ChodaBoy]

Why? They've bought everyone else who is on the transfer list

[Dead Star]

Just odd to see Freddy Ljungberg move from Arsenal to a lesser team I suppose.

[Lord Abortion]

I believe Chris Eagles is a little too old to make a breakthrough to the first team now, though.
Much as I love the idea of Tevez at United, I wish there wasn't this whole hassle over him.

[2muchket!]

3 weeks to the new season and I can't wait. I have high hopes fro this season and I believe the title race will be between Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea. I think Arsenal may finish 5th behind Tottenham. I sincerely hope we get another 1 or 2 signings in (we desperately need a right winger).

[sgrevs]

L'pool gonna challenge this season. Babel and Torres are massive signings, and Voronin is already proving that he's worthy of a place. And our new stadium is gonna be incredible when it is built. Its all on the up for us. But if we don't provide this season, Benitez's place may be a bit shaky.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Spurs are looking good again this season, but that's what we said last season and look what happens. Darren Bent is a great player, but for 16 million you'd think he'd wanna start every game, and it's looking a lot like he'll be splitting the season in three with Defoe and Keane.

[2muchket!]

Unless defoe goes. Which could happen but there's no other plausible clubs in the premiership he could play for.

[The_Passenger]

Does anyone have an opinion on the rejection of Michael Platini's plans for the reformation of the Champions' League? It sounds like he's trying to make it a bit more like when he was a player, which I would support.

I personally feel though that instead of giving national cup winners a Champions League spot they should reintroduce the Cup Winners Cup and reduce the number of Champions League places by one (or maybe even two) in the countries with three or more spots, and then give the next three teams UEFA Cup spots.

[2muchket!]

Nah I feel making the qualifying for the champions league should be rigorous, and just make the whole competition knock-out only.

Although the system now I don't have a problem with.

[Interstate]

hey guys....as somewhat of a new (but obsessed) football fan, does anyone know of a website that allows you to stream football matches for free?

Try the Sky Sports website, I'm sure they have the highlights of matches available to stream, if not the full match.

[rik]

I was really impressed with the way we played against Celtic last night, shows real promise for this season. Some really nice football being played.

Geremi was great and got man of the match, and Luque scored twice. Solano and Milner both stood out to me as playing well also.

Allardyce has a tough decision as to who he's going to start up front with Owen, Martins, Viduka, Ameobi, Luque and Carroll all to choose from.

[Minus The Flair]

United finish their tour with a 3-0 win, making it 15 goals and 3 wins out of four games, which isn't at all bad. Nani scored again, looked spectacular but was a real fluke really, lobbed the keeper with a poorly executed cross. It's all good.

Portsmouth beat Liverpool in Asia cup too on penalties. And lol good point rik, maybe United could borrow one of those strikers.

[2muchket!]

Ameboi and Luque are both crap. Narrows it down for ya there.

[Pastorius]

I can't wait to see Huddlestone playing for Reading. Great move for him, he wasn't getting nearly enough football with Spurs, he should start every time for Reading.

Although I would have loved to have seen some more Huddlestone Berbatov Keane partnerships.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

uh apart from they're not.

[The_Passenger]

I can't wait to see Huddlestone playing for Reading. Great move for him, he wasn't getting nearly enough football with Spurs, he should start every time for Reading.

Although I would have loved to have seen some more Huddlestone Berbatov Keane partnerships.

Wait what

[Pastorius]

I don't think it's final, but I heard that he's probably going to move to Reading.

Could just be me jumping on transfer rumours like I always do though :p

[The_Passenger]

Oh right, I hadn't heard a thing about this, not even rumours, so I was wondering how I could've missed that.

At any rate Huddlestone is 'one for the future' so I think we'll be seeing more of him as time goes by, even if he doesn't leave Spurs. I reckon he'll be a regular starter next season.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Huddlestone is ten times the player Jenas is.

[talk show host]

There were rumours a while back about Huddlestone going to Reading but I don't remember reading any actual quotes or anything about it and haven't heard anything since so i'm not sure it's true. Would be quite pleased if it was though, the midfield is looking a bit thin at the moment. They've signed this Cisse fella who's shown potential apparently but he sounds like another squad player and not really a replacement for Sidwell.

[sgrevs]

Huddlestone is ten times the player Jenas is.

This is very true. I thought Huddlestone should have played a much bigger role last season, I didn't see Jenas as anything special. I hope he stays at Spurs though, I like him and I like Spurs, I hope he does well.

Shame bout 'Pool last night:( the new boys both missed penalties (Torres and Benayoun), not the best start for them. Torres will gun it though this season.

[talk show host]

How're Torres and Babel looking so far?

[Minus The Flair]

Terry is now the highest paid footballer in the Premiership at 135k a week, for the next five years. Higher than Ballack and Schevchenko, who are both paid 130k I think. I assume Lampard won't be agreeing any deals till he's in the same region as those three. And there's absolutely no reason why he should be. Nor any of them.

[talk show host]

lol 135k is obscene

[rik]

How're Torres and Babel looking so far?
I saw Torres playing against Portsmouth. He wasn't very sharp at all and could have done better with a couple of chances, but you can't really blame him for that at all as it is his first game and he only played the second half.

Though he did miss a penalty at the end in the shoot out, it was a fairly good save by James, but not a great pen either.

[talk show host]

I'm really looking forward to seeing all these new signings. I think Liverpool will still be just behind United and Chelsea though, and i'm not really sure about Arsenal. Could go either way for them really. I hope Spurs can challenge the top four too.

I just want the season to start now, it's all pretty quiet on the transfer front and not much going on. It's going to be a nightmare start for Reading though, away to Man United and then home to Chelsea. Then after that it's Everton at home and Bolton away. Not feeling too confident but hopefully there'll be a couple of points up for grabs.

[Echleon]

I'm really looking forward to seeing all these new signings. I think Liverpool will still be just behind United and Chelsea though, and i'm not really sure about Arsenal. Could go either way for them really. I hope Spurs can challenge the top four too.

I just want the season to start now, it's all pretty quiet on the transfer front and not much going on. It's going to be a nightmare start for Reading though, away to Man United and then home to Chelsea. Then after that it's Everton at home and Bolton away. Not feeling too confident but hopefully there'll be a couple of points up for grabs.

I think Reading may do ok, it's just a shame about Sidwell going to Chelsea. I really hope he gets played, and doesnt just sit on the bench all season - it would be such a waste.

[sgrevs]

I can't see him getting played - what with Makelele, Essien, Lampard, Mikel...doesn't look like he has a hope. I think he should have stayed at Reading where he was guaranteed to start every game.

And Iraq win the Asia Cup! The underdogs prevail. Shows that at least something is going right there. Should have been Australia though, but we played so damn poorly I'm not surprised at all. Serves us right for being so cocky - "Anything less than semi-finals is a failure" my ***.

[E sharp]

I'm glad Iraq won -- SA were sloppy everywhere (at least until i fell asleep at ~40th minute). Lots of very close chances in the first half hour by Iraq. I remember a left-footed volley that went a foot wide and an unfortunate scissor kick going astray. Well in.

Otherwise, EPL in 2 weeks!! Its that close! Spurs will break into the top 4 this season. Jol has been creating a masterpiece since he came. Dunno why he bought Bent though.

[angry armadillo]

How're Torres and Babel looking so far?ive not seen anything of babel and i havent heard anything very good yet

the reports are benayoun is doing ok though so thats nice.

i saw torres and he looks like he will be good when he settles, he will work really well with voronin i think, as torres will set up voronin, who i think will score a lot of poachers goals if it works this season

[2muchket!]

Predictions for the following season ladies and gents then. I'll start :

1. Man Utd
2. Liverpool
3. Chelsea
4. Tottenham
5. Arsenal
6. West Ham
7. Everton
8. Blackburn
9. Portsmouth
10. Man City
11. Middlesbrough
12. Newcastle
13. Aston Villa
14. Bolton
15. Fulham
16. Reading
17. Sunderland
18. Wigan
19. Birmingham
20. Derby

Likely to be way off but still

[talk show host]

1. Man Utd
2. Chelsea
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Blackburn
7. Newcastle
8. Everton
9. Man City
10. Reading
11. Aston Villa
12. Bolton
13. Portsmouth
14. West Ham
15. Middlesbrough
16. Sunderland
17. Fulham
18. Birmingham
19. Wigan
20. Derby

[Pastorius]

Here's my Sun Dream Team

GK - James

DF - G Neville
DF - Meite
DF - Agger
DF - Eboue

MID - Huddlestone
MID - Richardson
MID - Gamst Pedersen

STR - Berbatov
STR - Van Persie
STR - Rooney

[talk show host]

Van Persie's gonna rip it up this season. His goal against Inter the other night was brilliant.

[sgrevs]

Here's my Sun Dream Team

GK - James

DF - G Neville
DF - Meite
DF - Agger
DF - Eboue

MID - Huddlestone
MID - Richardson
MID - Gamst Pedersen

STR - Berbatov
STR - Van Persie
STR - Rooney

I sincerely hope that's not Kieran Richardson? He's a joke, absolutely useless. I like the addition of Dan Agger though, that guy is class, as is Berba.

[The_Passenger]

meh Richardson wasn't bad during his loan spell at West Brom, maybe it'll be the same at Sunderland. He's probably going to be a first team regular which is good for a dream team.

Plus at Manchester he was playing in a midfield with the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Ronaldo in it - that probably made him look worse than he really was.

[Pastorius]

I sincerely hope that's not Kieran Richardson? He's a joke, absolutely useless. I like the addition of Dan Agger though, that guy is class, as is Berba.

It was really a cheap signing, so I was under the limit. Plus he's going to be a starting player pretty much every game.

[sgrevs]

Plus at Manchester he was playing in a midfield with the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Ronaldo in it - that probably made him look worse than he really was.

I don't think so, I watched him playing for England as well, he always seemed out of his depth to me. I think he's more of a Championship player rather than Prem League. I guess he will be starting though, and he will, funnily enough, be one of Sunderlands pivotal players this season. I hope he does better than he did at Utd.

Past, I guess its ok for a cheap buy, what site did u make the team on? I want to make a team this season and keep it in order. I always lose interest around the middle of the season. I've only made teams on premierleague.com and yahoo before, what others are good? We should have an MX league again.

[Pastorius]

I did it on the Sun's Dream Team thing. Costs £5 to enter though, but I don't really mind.

[Lord Abortion]

I'm surprised people aren't predicting a higher finish for Pompey this year, they're only improving, and Man City could well get a top-6 finish this year, given the new signings, which now include Valeri Bojinov from Fiorentina.

[2muchket!]

Roque Santa Cruz as well Benni McCarthy will be a lethal partnership next season. Infact many clubs have made excellent signings in terms of strikers.

[Lord Abortion]

Yes, Blackburn too.
Although, how a player who was one of the best strikers in the world ended up going there is beyond me.

[The_Passenger]

Roque Santa Cruz as well Benni McCarthy will be a lethal partnership next season. Infact many clubs have made excellent signings in terms of strikers.

Roque Santa Cruz is anything but lethal.

[Lord Abortion]

He certainly used to be.

(By lethal I, of course mean "was worth about 30m on Football Manager a couple of seasons ago")

[The_Passenger]

Haha, in that sense maybe is lethal.

But seriously, apart from European experience I don't see why Blackburn have bought him.

[2muchket!]

He got me 38 goals in one season of Football Manager.

Plus he's excellent in the air.

[sgrevs]

Football Manager isn't real life. But damn its an addictive game.

Santa Cruz will just be another useless striker. Shame really, I like Blackburn. I predict a 10th place finish for them.

[Minus The Flair]

Same, just above mid-table probably.

Teves should be coming to United this weekend, finally. This whole thing was so unnecessary and tiring. I love him though.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1492/footballwesthamtevez549qc8.jpg

[The_Passenger]

I'm still trying to work out why Man U have signed Tevez.

I mean he's obviosuly a good player, but do they really need another attacking player? They proved last season that they were perfectly capable of scoring goals without a 'natural' goalscorer, and at any rate Tevez is more a Zola/Bergkamp type player who supports another forward from a relatively deep role and Man U already have Rooney who did this job well enough when van Nistelrooy was still there. I don't get it.

[ChodaBoy]

Well the striker role is something they are very much lacking in. Smith is on his way to Newcastle, Solskjaer is old and had a few injuries, Saha always seems to be injured, so it leaves just Rooney.

The other side of Manchester is pissing me off despite being a City fan. More than £22m spent on players, the possible lineup for the season is almost unrecognisable. 3 players from last seasons team were on the 11, Dunne, Micah Richards and Andreas Issakson. Issakson has barely walked onto the pitch so far so its like having a new player. A few weeks ago I would have settled for a top 10 finish (so long as there was promise showing for the future). But now just getting into the top 10 wont be enough for the season to be successful.

[The_Passenger]

I think that Man City will be able to get 7th next season tbh, and that probably means a UEFA Cup place. That's hell of an improvement on last year. Sven has porven to be excellent in the transfer market, although he does spend soemtimes excessive amoutns of money in it.

As for the Man U thing, it just seems bizzarre that if they're short in the striker department that they're selling Rossi. I guess it must be because of the shoddy time he ahd at Newcastle.

[Pastorius]

I think you're all forgetting something.....CHRIS EAGLES

[rik]

Yer I don't really know why we signed Smith. He's a good player, but we now have so many strikers; Owen, Martins, Viduka, Luque, Smith, Ameobi, Carroll, all good players.

Maybe Allardyce is going to try and play Smith in a midfield role, he recently said he was going to buy a player to fill the gap left by Dyer's departure.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Where did Dyer go? I'm out of the loop.

[Pastorius]

Dyer went to West Ham I believe.

[talk show host]

I'm still trying to work out why Man U have signed Tevez.

I mean he's obviosuly a good player, but do they really need another attacking player? They proved last season that they were perfectly capable of scoring goals without a 'natural' goalscorer, and at any rate Tevez is more a Zola/Bergkamp type player who supports another forward from a relatively deep role and Man U already have Rooney who did this job well enough when van Nistelrooy was still there. I don't get it.

I figure they're just going to play without a proper striker this season depending on how much they use Saha. It'll probably be two of Hargreaves/Carrick/Scholes and then an attacking 4 all swapping positions and basically wreaking havoc. All their attacking players bar Scholes seem capable of playing anywhere up front.

Also, Reading have signed someone! Emerse Fae, supposedly the replacement for Sidwell. I don't know anything about him but apparently he's a defensive midfielder so i'd guess Harper will be given the attacking role. Plus he scored a nice goal on a youtube clip I saw :o

Club record signing too.

[poorquality]

Nani's looked good pre-season, Anderson had 45 minutes today and he looked good, played some good passes, won back the ball and made space. Futures looking good for united :]

Anyone heading Community Shield on Sunday? I'm lucky enough to have got tickets for it :) And for the first match of the season against Reading.

[Pastorius]

Torres scored tonight, get in. I had to go to work, but we were looking pretty confident in the first half hour or so. The maestro Crouch was tall, AS EVER.

Oh, killer, check out Gerrard's goal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxrvZLE4U78&NR=1

The man is an absolute genius. If Liverpool gel this year we're going to be so dangerous.

[The_Passenger]

Eh, as far as Liverpool are concerned I'm still dubious about some of the new signings.

As far as Torres goes it seems to me his reputation seems to rely on impressive form from 3/4 seasons ago. His goalscoring record recently has been ok, but if you discount the penalties (which is reasonable as I think the likes of Alonso and Gerrard will probably be ahead of him in the pecking order in that department) his goals:games ratio approaches Emile Heskey territory. Vornin's record isn't that great either, although he's apparently been played in midfield on a fairly regular basis. Babel I don't know much about so I can't say, but he seems promising in the long term. Benayoun's good but nothign special.

[2muchket!]

Torres has always scored goals in La Liga. Even if he has a bad season he gets a goal count of the mid to low teens. Besides he's a player in the vein of Henry. Voronin's a more of goal poacher like shearer or RVN. Babel a good player and I've always been a fan of Benayoun wish the boro had signed him.

I think this summer we needed to sign a right winger. And yet again we haven't. I still have some high hoped for Boro this season as Tuncay Sanli looks a pretty good player. And our defence looks stronger than last year.

[Minus The Flair]

Ok, so United have 'signed' this nine-year old kid, Rhain Davis, into their academy off the back of a youtube video. This kid is quality, but I've seen better childhood videos from Ronnie and Rooney.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u8W5LDOsoD0

Looking forward to tomorrows game, finally some competitive football. And yes, Gerrard's goal was class.

[Lord Abortion]

That young kid is interesting, but United sign thirty kids of that age a year. You usually have to be a pretty good standard to get in.

I do think United need a poacher. Saha is, as I probably have shouted on here before, ****ing awful, and injury prone.

Allerdyce seems to be doing really good work at Newcastle. He's finally got rid of that £85, 000 a week waster Dyer, too.

[talk show host]

I thought the Dyer deal collapsed?

[Lord Abortion]

Maybe, it was just a report in a random paper, nothing on the BBC sport site as of yet.

[rik]

The Dyer deal was as good as done and everyone was expecting the deal to be finalised this morning. At the moment it has been stalled, and is actually looking less likely to happen, though I think it will get sorted in the end.

[Lord Abortion]

Yes, I heard Newcastle demanded an extra 2m, which I guess is compensation for some of the money he earned lying on the treatment table, picking at a troublesome arse-spot

[rik]

I think he's over his injury problems, and the extra 2 mill we're asking for is fair enough, with the prices players are being bought for nowadays, Dyer is worth more than 5 mill in my opinion.

In other news we've signed Cacapa, a defender whos been captain of Lyon for the past 5 years (I think). And we're very close to signing a Villareal left back named Jose Enrique who I know plays for the Spanish U21 side. Anyone know much about either players?

We're also in talks with Leighton Baines, though as is Everton. And Everton look the favourite to sign him as he was a Everton fan as a boy and would probably relish the chance to play with his boyhood heros.

[Lord Abortion]

I know Cacapa, he's a very good player. Very solid player, good leader, pretty instrumental in Lyon's success over the last few years. Great signing

[Dave de Sylvia]

I think he's over his injury problems, and the extra 2 mill we're asking for is fair enough, with the prices players are being bought for nowadays, Dyer is worth more than 5 mill in my opinion.
I dunno, 5 million by itself seems a pretty big risk for a player who's had his injury problems and will likely never recapture his form of a few years ago.

[rik]

I dunno, I truely believe he's over his injury troubles. It was his ham strings that were always playing up, and since his operation he had before the beginning of last season they haven't given him any grief whatsoever.

He's also looked amazing in the pre-season games, I would actually like to keep him, but if he does have to go, i'd want more than 5 million for him.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

i ****ing love dyer right shame he's left/leaving.

[Mr. Black]

Ok, so United have 'signed' this nine-year old kid, Rhain Davis, into their academy off the back of a youtube video. This kid is quality, but I've seen better childhood videos from Ronnie and Rooney.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u8W5LDOsoD0

Looking forward to tomorrows game, finally some competitive football. And yes, Gerrard's goal was class.


I can't see why this is so brilliant. He's just another kid who runs at pace with the ball and can do stepovers. It's nothing spectacular anymore. People like Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Zidane etc, wore it out a long time ago. I can't see anything happening from this.

[poorquality]

Also his ability to find a defence splitting pass, non-selfish play, and the fact he got taken down twice by 4 players and still emerged with the ball, they're also good qualities in a professional player letalone a 9 year old, it's not all stepovers. He looks special, but as he is 9 time will tell on him.

[Random.bass.player.]

Blackburn Roverss Whhhhheeey

[Mr. Black]

Well, only time will tell.


Predictions gentlemen, upon todays football match?

Methinks 3-2 to Man Utd.
I'm surprised people aren't predicting a higher finish for Pompey this year, they're only improving, and Man City could well get a top-6 finish this year, given the new signings, which now include Valeri Bojinov from Fiorentina.

But still, it's Eriksson isn't it. Although, Bojinov is supposed to be the Bulgarian equivalent to Ronaldo.

And as for Roque Santa Cruz, personally, I feel that he'll do the job for Blackburn, but he was never anything special for Bayern, especially competing for places with Makaay and Pizzaro. I do get the sense he could have been generally better if he'd have been played more for Munich. 38 goals in 143 apps isn't good, at all. And 143 apps in 8 seasons at Bayern does seem quite lacking also.

[talk show host]

I reckon it'll be a boring game. Either United to win on penalties or Chelsea to win 1-0.

oops, Terry's out for at least a month. Probably miss the euro qualifiers too.

[Minus The Flair]

1-1, Giggs and Malouda, United win on penalties 3-0. Didn't see the game personally, that's the score.

[ChodaBoy]

Wasnt too bad, neither side were brilliant but United deserved to win more than Chelsea.

But still, it's Eriksson isn't it.
Dont judge him off the reputation of the tabloids during his run with England. He has a pretty good club record, has been able to bring in alot of players despite the reputation of City and their previous signings.

George Weah - World player of the year! ...he barely made it through the doors of Maine Road before he left

[rik]

Yer it was ok, better than the FA cup final by far. Both goals were nice as well.

[Minus The Flair]

Oh God, don't remind me. If it's even possible to remember. One of the worst football matches I've ever seen.

[The_Passenger]

I thought it was a fairly good match, not brilliant though. Malouda defintiely looks promising. I didn't think that anyone was hugely outstanding however. Man U looked a lot better than they did at the end of last season and Chelsea actually attempted to play attacking football instead the boring safety first stuff we saw for most of last season.

Dont judge him off the reputation of the tabloids during his run with England.

Regarding Eriksson, I don't even know where the bad stuff about him comes from. England did better under him in every major competition (bar Euro 96) than we had since 1990. Bad press about him probably comes from the fact that some people are deluded enough to think that England had a squad capable of winning world cups and felt that we underperformed.

[talk show host]

Regarding Eriksson, I don't even know where the bad stuff about him comes from. England did better under him in every major competition (bar Euro 96) than we had since 1990. Bad press about him probably comes from the fact that some people are deluded enough to think that England had a squad capable of winning world cups and felt that we underperformed.

A lot of the stick that Eriksson recieved was unjustified but i'm sure much of it also came from him being quite conservative and sitting on single goal leads which really doesn't seem to play to England's strengths. Add to that his apparent favouritism with certain players, his off the field antics, and i'm sure a touch of xenophobia on the part of some fans and it's clear he'd never have a good rep, despite his overall achievements which were really quite good.

I think he'll do a good job with Man City though.

[Dead Star]

I reckon it'll be a boring game. Either United to win on penalties or Chelsea to win 1-0.

Good Shout.

The Scottish season's started. Good to see Motherwell get a first day win. First since 1998.

[Mr. Black]

Regarding Eriksson, I don't even know where the bad stuff about him comes from. England did better under him in every major competition (bar Euro 96) than we had since 1990. Bad press about him probably comes from the fact that some people are deluded enough to think that England had a squad capable of winning world cups and felt that we underperformed.

Yeah, but England should be winning trophies, a feat that has been beyond us since '66 and untill a manager wins a trophy, be it World Cup or European Championships, there will always be massive pressure on the position of the England job. England have the players and they have the ability, they've had the same squad playing together now for a while.

Did Pizzaro get on today?

[poorquality]

Just got back from Community Shield, wembley is actually pretty nice, I expected worse tbh, lots of leg room :]

Alright match, thought United edged it in terms of better football, we attacked more and tried to score goals more than them.

Van Der Sar was amazing, when it went to pens and it was at the Chelsea end, I was worried, VDS would have constant stick from behind the goal, and United would get it from the crowd infront of them. But all credit to them, they kept thier cool.

Much respect for Rio Ferdinand too, volunteering to take the first penalty infront of the Chelsea fans took guts I think.

[Mr. Black]

I admire Van Der Sar loads. I'm really suprised that he stayed at Fulham for so long.

[The_Passenger]

Yeah, but England should be winning trophies, a feat that has been beyond us since '66 and untill a manager wins a trophy, be it World Cup or European Championships, there will always be massive pressure on the position of the England job. England have the players and they have the ability, they've had the same squad playing together now for a while.

We don't though.

The England national team is inferior to Brazil's, Argentina's, Italy's, Germany's and France's to name a few. How you can say that a nation with so many superior teams competing for trophies should be winning them is beyond me.

Also, under Sven, we were knocked out by Brazil and Portugal in the major competitions.

Anyone who thinks we were better than a Brazil squad featuring the likes of Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Roberto carlos and Ronaldinho really is delusional. Portugal are hardly a weak team and being knocked out by them is hardly shameful.

At any rate success in knockout competitions is hardly indicative of quality. See Greece and Euro 04 for an example.

[Mr. Black]

Personally, I don't think it's the way that it's that we lack players with ability. It's that we lack the attitude, the spirit, the team unity that exists in other teams, particularly Brazil.

[ChodaBoy]

That loss against Portugal was just awful, IIRC Campbell scored, but the ref disallowed the goal because the keeper fell over.

[The_Passenger]

I don't know, at times the team doesn't look together and like they just don't care,so I'd agree to an extent, but at the same time at the last world cup we were fielding the likes of Peter Crouch, who had a goals to games ratio of little better than 1:4 for the season. That's hardly international standard.

Not trying to pick on Crouch like alot of people do, but he's just an example.

[Mr. Black]

Yeah, but England havent had a consistent an out and out goal scorer since Shearer. Owen was good yes, but he got that injury, and has never been the same since. I admit that they could do with a few changed in some positions, but I could pick the current defence and midfield in a dream team.

[The_Passenger]

But that's exactly my point - teams that should be winning trophies have consistent goalscorers. If Crouch is one of the best we can rack up in that department we don't have the ability to win to trophies.

[talk show host]

Yeah, but England havent had a consistent an out and out goal scorer since Shearer. Owen was good yes, but he got that injury, and has never been the same since. I admit that they could do with a few changed in some positions, but I could pick the current defence and midfield in a dream team.

But noone else has really been given a chance other than Defoe. Johnson had a couple of games but was mostly played out of position on the wing if I remember. Bent hasn't really been given a chance at all. When Owen's injured it seems to be the plan to just use Crouch even though both him and Rooney drop back leaving noone up front.

Maybe Lita could handle it :D

[rocknrollstar5]

Bent? he's been the top 5 premiership goalscores for the last 2 or 3 seasons.

[Ganondorf]

Bent isn't world class.

[rocknrollstar5]

but he's been scoring consistantly in the premiership for 3 years now. other than rooney which england strikers are world class?

[Pastorius]

Crouchoooooooooooo

[rocknrollstar5]

erm.....no sorry

[Pastorius]

Crouchooooooooooo

you know it makes sense

[rocknrollstar5]

lol, he'd be good amazing if he bulked up and learned how to head the ball

[Pastorius]

truth be, but he is starting to get better at heading the ball.

It's a shame, because he shows flourishes of outstanding technique, then sometimes he just looks like a spider trying to tie it's shoelaces.

[rocknrollstar5]

hahaha, its often that way with really tall and skinny people. i know someone like that who plays football and sometimes he's just really clumsy on the ball

[talk show host]

the thing with Crouch is you can't take your eyes off him when he's on the pitch. His movements look so wrong but then he'll pull off a shot while seemingly defying the laws of physics.

[rocknrollstar5]

yeah, its wierd because he always looks awkward when hes got the ball at his feet but he manages to pull something off thats usually not bad. i dont think he should play for england ahead of defoe or bent though

[Pastorius]

He's such a valuable player to have on the pitch. Takes a lot of effort to mark him. Corners, you've got to mark him so closely.

He's useful for long balls too. Makes a great target I bet, a 6 foot 98 gangly monster.

[rocknrollstar5]

Did anybody see the charity shield because i missed it, i was working. was it a good game?
well it must of been quite good, utd won

[talk show host]

I only saw the highlights but it looked pretty boring, not many chances. Both the goals were nice, especially Malouda's.

[rocknrollstar5]

yeah i did see the goals on the post match analysis and it was a pretty good goal. i just cant wait for the season to start now

[talk show host]

Yeah, me neither. Only 7 days til we show United how it's done :cool:

[rocknrollstar5]

reading fan are you? i was at the fa cup replay where we went 3-0 up in 5 minutes last season. that was crazy but you got back into the game well, mainly because we were **** after those 3 goals

[talk show host]

that was a good game. we were so close to extra time, I almost crapped myself when Gunnarsson hit the crossbar in the last minute.

it could all have been so different..

[rocknrollstar5]

you almost shitted yourself! think how i felt. my balls jumped up inside myself

[sgrevs]

Crouch is great for long balls and setting up players to run onto the ball, and that's exactly what he does, I don't know but I'm sure he got a few assists last season. Bent would be a better choice for England, but for Liverpool I reckon Crouch does exactly what we need him to, especially now that we have more out and out goal scorers like Torres :)

Shaky game last night against Feyenoord though, bit of a scuffle and Gerrard might have seen red. It was a bad tackle by the Feyenoord guy whoever it was, and we still managed to salvage a draw. Reina pulled off yet another penalty save right near the end. A fair buildup to the season I'd say.

[Kyle]

Just remembered this thread, can't wait for the new season! Think Newcastle could do alright if we bring in another defender or two, but time appears to be running out. It was nice to Alan Smith get off the mark against Sampdoria yesterday.

[2muchket!]

Just remembered this thread, can't wait for the new season! Think Newcastle could do alright if we bring in another defender or two, but time appears to be running out. It was nice to Alan Smith get off the mark against Sampdoria yesterday.

You've just signed another centre back are looking to bring in 2 full backs so newcastle should have a better defence.

Boro were nice in the pre-season game against AZ Alkmaar the other day. Downing looks good as does the partnership with Taylor on the left hand side.

Still no ****ing right winger tho'!! We should try and sign Bresciano.

[sgrevs]

Just remembered this thread, can't wait for the new season! Think Newcastle could do alright if we bring in another defender or two, but time appears to be running out. It was nice to Alan Smith get off the mark against Sampdoria yesterday.

Toon will finish top 8 this year, they've got a strong squad with much greater depth than in past seasons. Smith will be a good buy, as will Viduka and especially Barton. Big Sam's making it all happen. Pity really, I kinda hate Newcastle.

[rik]

truth be, but he is starting to get better at heading the ball.

It's a shame, because he shows flourishes of outstanding technique, then sometimes he just looks like a spider trying to tie it's shoelaces.
Hah, that reminded me of something a commentator said once when Crouch was on the ball... 'and here comes Crouch like some sort of weird rampaging super spider.'

I think i'll always remember that quote.


I can not wait for the season to start now, Newcastle have looked great pre-season. I watched the match against Celtic and Juventus, we were playing some really great football. We've made some great signings, Geremi especially has really impressed me pre-season.

I really don't know who Sam's going to start up front for us, we have so many options. And our defence seems to be looking a lot better now. It's a bit of a shame we missed out on Baines to Everton, but apparently this Enrique guy we've just signed is a very promising left back.

It also looks more and more like Dyer will be staying with us, if he does, I predict a great season for him.

[2muchket!]

Nah dyer will be on his fat arse within the end of the month injured with a hang nail or something of that sort.

[rik]

Possibly, but hes been in top form pre-season, and if he can stay injury free which I believe he can, I think he'll have a good season.

[Pastorius]

The best commentator's quote..... Mark Lawrenson.

*silence for about 30 seconds*
Lawrenson: "This ball sounds a bit soft."
*silence for about another 10 seconds*

Also, I don't know whether to get a Liverpool European kit, or a Liverpool normal kit. The normal kit is the normal kit, so I'd like to get it, but the European kit is lush... either way it's AGGER 5 on the back :D

[talk show host]

Their European kit looks great this year.

[rocknrollstar5]

Best commentator quote goes to Motson (who else)
"for those of you watching in black and white, tottenham are in yellow"

[rik]

The Liverpool kit which is in black with the red stripe going through the top and bottom of it looks nice, not sure what one that is, but get that one.

[Pastorius]

That's the European kit.

[rocknrollstar5]

is it going to have stars for all the fans that they've murdered at away games?

[The_Passenger]

^ Uncalled for.

anyway 30+ stars would be excessive

[Mr. Black]

Man, that was cold.

Top scorer this season then?

I'd have to say Drogba again, I can't see it goin any other way.

[The_Passenger]

Robert Earnshaw for top scorer.

Seriously though, it's hard to say. There are several who might do it, but there are so many that it's probably not worth me listing. As far as Drogba's concerned, he'll net his fair share but I don't see him being top scorer again. Don't know why that is, I just don't.

[talk show host]

I don't think Drogba will be top scorer this season. He'll be away for a month or so for the ANC and isn't he injured at the moment as well? Might miss a couple of games at the start of the season too if so.

[2muchket!]

It's a tough call for top scorer this season. I'd say Drogba, Rooney or Benni McCarthy

[The_Passenger]

^ Of those I'd say Benni McCarthy. He was one of the ones I was thinking could be top scorer. I'm not sure about Rooney because although I reckon that Man U will be the highest scoring team, I think their goals will come from several different players, as opposed to Blackburn, where I can see Benni scoring a significant proportion.

[2muchket!]

Thats what I was thinking, their attacking midfielders and strikers all contributing over 10 goals.

[rocknrollstar5]

probably Drogba or maybe Ronaldo or Rooney

[Pastorius]

crouchoooooooo

:D

[The_Passenger]

if peter crouch became top scorer then the premier league would be laughed at by the other top leagues

[Pastorius]

Never! Crouch for top scorer with 87 goals

[2muchket!]

Torres, Voronin and Kuyt will be ahead of Crouch in goals.

[Pastorius]

crouch for president

[talk show host]

jeez why don't you just marry crouch :rolleyes:

[rocknrollstar5]

gary neville is gonna be ahead of crouch in goals

[2muchket!]

I'll score more premiership goals than crouch.

[Lord Abortion]

I can't believe what I saw on Sunday, Rio Ferdinand scoring a penalty?
Had to trawl round pubs in town to find the match though, that's the massive downside to living in Jockland, all the pubs had Celtic-Killie on, which by all accounts was appalling. Shield wasn't bad though; I hope Ben Foster was watching that, outsting EVDS from the first team my arse.

[2muchket!]

Foster's a good keeper.

I think Malouda looks a better player than Robben.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, but still, I think that was just Edwin showing off, like "Beat that kid"

lol at him patting Wright-Phillips on the head without lifting his hand up.

[rocknrollstar5]

there was a pic on the back page of the sun that showed Edwin clashing wit wright-phillips and from his knee to his ankle was the same size at wright-phillips' torso

[talk show host]

haha yeah, the height difference between the two was hilarious. I never realised VDS was so tall/SWP so very very short lol.

[Mr. Black]

Foster's a good keeper.

I think Malouda looks a better player than Robben.

He's a straight-up replacement. Robbens been at Chelsea too long and Mourinho is too bored of waiting around between Robbens injuries. He'll be at Madrid by January.

[rik]

I remember in an England match when SWP and Crouch were both waiting to come on to the pitch from the bench at the same time. That was funny.

[2muchket!]

or when crouch stuck up for SWP when he'd benn fouled. Looked like his dad fending off some kids picking on his son :lol:

[Pastorius]

On Pro Evo 6, I made Crouch 4 inches taller than he is, and Owen the minimum height there is, just for the comedy value when I substitute them.

[rik]

On Pro Ev I made a team of midgets and my brother made one of Lanky people to play against each other. It was less funny then we planned, but was a good waste of time nonetheless.

[Pastorius]

My team, "Team Well ****ing Good", had 1 midget in it, called 'Small Strange'.

My strikers were King Samuel II and King Samuel III

[dei]

Is there any way to watch the EPL here in the States for free? I tried PPLive but that **** is in Chinese so most of the time I don't know what I'm doing.

[E sharp]

On Pro Evo 6, I made Crouch 4 inches taller than he is, and Owen the minimum height there is, just for the comedy value when I substitute them.


Haha, youtube that!

[Pastorius]

Is there any way to watch the EPL here in the States for free? I tried PPLive but that **** is in Chinese so most of the time I don't know what I'm doing.

You Americans and your EPL and your NBA and your NFL

not everything is an acronym

[rocknrollstar5]

Is there any way to watch the EPL here in the States for free? I tried PPLive but that **** is in Chinese so most of the time I don't know what I'm doing.

go to an english bar, if there are any in your area. when i was on holiday there we managed to catch a man utd game in a bar

[rik]

Haha, just found this picture of me when I was younger. Mini magpie..

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/rikcoe/DSCF0604.jpg

[nitzguy]

Is there any way to watch the EPL here in the States for free? I tried PPLive but that **** is in Chinese so most of the time I don't know what I'm doing.

you get the fox soccer channel. and it has other soccer leagues. also sometimes on espn round 2:30pm EST you get it.

[rocknrollstar5]

Haha, just found this picture of me when I was younger. Mini magpie..

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/rikcoe/DSCF0604.jpg

wye aye man you look a right canny lad

[2muchket!]

Whats the code for the mx league ?

EDIT : Found it :D

My team :

GK: Jaaskaleinen
Defenders : Richards, Woodgate, Emerton, Quedrue
Midfield : Ronaldo, Essien Fabergas, Downing
Forwards : Yakubu, Viduka

Subs : Niemi, Lescott, Parker, Chopra.

[Bukowski]

On Pro Ev I made a team of midgets and my brother made one of Lanky people to play against each other. It was less funny then we planned, but was a good waste of time nonetheless.

My friend always makes his own player, and he's always this 10 foot machine whose stats are all at 99. It's so annoying to play against, because I could be doin great and then this big fcuker gets the ball and BANG, I'm a goal down.

He does the same on Football Manager, he uses the save-game editor while playing it, gives his team £2billion, and sets all his players stats as high as possible - and buys all the world's best anyway. He does this ALL THE TIME when he plays that game. It's such a pointless, redundant waste of time because he just wins all his games 10-0...but he won't listen to reason.

anyway, some thoughts:

1. Rangers will win the Scottish Premier (easily)
2. Craig Gordon is a great goalkeeper, but £9million? WTF are Sunderland thinking.
3. As a neutral Scottish spectator, I'm very excited about the Premiership this year. I'm happy as long as Chelsea don't win it.

[rocknrollstar5]

another miss-hap on sunderlands part was paying for keiran richardson

[2muchket!]

He'll do well for sunderland this season I think. He looked bad at Man Utd because he was playing with world class players.

[rocknrollstar5]

yeah and we've got even more now. nani and anderson performed well tonight. nani scored a great goal

[rustysurf84]

Sunderland should stay up, Fulham is definitly heading off to the Championship, along with Wigan. The 3rd, eh, not sure. Could be West Ham, considering Tevez is the only reason they stayed up last year.

[sgrevs]

Whats the code for the mx league ?

EDIT : Found it :D



What is it? Anyone? I've made a team already.

[rustysurf84]

mx league? Where and how?

[2muchket!]

The code for the mx league is : 65888-21627

[Dead Star]

anyway, some thoughts:

1. Rangers will win the Scottish Premier (easily)
2. Craig Gordon is a great goalkeeper, but £9million? WTF are Sunderland thinking.
3. As a neutral Scottish spectator, I'm very excited about the Premiership this year. I'm happy as long as Chelsea don't win it.

1. No they wont. Celtic will win, but Rangers will push them.
2. Hes easily worth about 5m
3. this quote exactly, hoping for a big push from Liverpool too.

[The_Passenger]

What's wrong with Chelsea winning the league in particular? As a neutral i don't want them to win, but that's because they play boring safety first football-just like Liverpool. So even if you're a Liverpool fan it seems odd singling out Chelsea, unless there's another reason.

[2muchket!]

The whole buying success argument for disliking chelsea is pretty redundant now.

[rustysurf84]

I mean, Chelsea bought their entire team, and still couldn't beat Arsenal. Ironically, I think Arsenal had the best record against the Big Four, but couldn't hold it together mid-table.

[2muchket!]

Arsenal lost to any team that tackled hard or was had good aerial players


e.g. any team that employed proper tactics

[dei]

You Americans and your EPL and your NBA and your NFL

not everything is an acronym

Should I have said the Prem?

I don't know of any English pubs around here and the only channel that I know shows the matches is Setanta, and for that you need Directv and I have Time Warner cable. :(

[rustysurf84]

Arsenal lost to any team that tackled hard or was had good aerial players


e.g. any team that employed proper tactics

Hah, well, that is true. They are rather soft, and its quite shocking that their leader in cards is Lehmann. When they get in flow, they really do play some beautiful football; as in Van Persie's goal against Watford.

[2muchket!]

No arguments from me they play some absolutely breathtaking football. But when they need to grind out results (which all title winners have been able to do) they simply can't.

[The_Passenger]

The whole buying success argument for disliking chelsea is pretty redundant now.

It was never a legitimate arguement. No team in recent history as won the Premier League entirely off of youth players.

People go on about Man U winning in the mid-nineties, but for every Scholes (youth player) there was a Cantona (bought player) at the time. People also go on about Arsenal's young players, but a lot of them are bought in as well.

[rocknrollstar5]

and its quite shocking that their leader in cards is Lehmann.

Hardly, is quite the dousche and cant control his german self

[Timm]

when's prem starting?
bundesliga starts tomorrow, can't wait :D

and st pauli finally plays 2. Bundesliga again, even got the kick off game against FC Köln at home tomorrow!

ok no one here cares, so erm...what club signed santa cruz again? and, if someone knows; what the hell were they thinking :lol:

[brensten32]

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but I will bring it up again.
Henry is now in Barcelona with Ronaldinho, Messi, Eto. I think Barcelona will average at least 3 goals a game with some of the best attackers around the world.

By the way, what is the best Football game you guys have ever watched?

In my opinion, the best football game ever was Liverpool vs AC Milan in the 2004-2005 champions league final where Liverpool was losing by 3 and came back to tie AC milan and won by penalty kick.

[poorquality]

The whole buying success argument for disliking chelsea is pretty redundant now.

That whole argument was because the other big teams earned their budget due to previous success etc., whereas Chelsea got given an unlimited amount of money in the past 2 seasons.

[The_Passenger]

Tbh if the only way teams can financially compete with the likes of Man U is to be taken over (who haven't been hurt financially by the arrival of the Glazers, something I've noticed some people like to ignore) by a billionaire then I don't mind.

That's the problem with cash prizes and the like nowdays. The teams which already have the money get even more and the gap in quality between teams would just get bigger and bigger as time went along. The league would become incredibly boring like that.

[Mr. Black]

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but I will bring it up again.
Henry is now in Barcelona with Ronaldinho, Messi, Eto. I think Barcelona will average at least 3 goals a game with some of the best attackers around the world.

By the way, what is the best Football game you guys have ever watched?

In my opinion, the best football game ever was Liverpool vs AC Milan in the 2004-2005 champions league final where Liverpool was losing by 3 and came back to tie AC milan and won by penalty kick.


There are two.

a) Manchester United vs. Real Madrid - I believe it was 4-3 to United on the night, Ronaldo scored that hat-trick. Madrid won 6-5 on aggregate I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH13gCEaHVs


b) Newcastle vs. Liverpool - 4-3, and the other game, which was also 4-3 Liverpool won both, I think. But I remember that game so well.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OTzuGJb777Q&mode=related&search=

Oh and, Deportivo vs. Milan. But you have to see both legs of the tie to understand how good the game is.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zIu5DEuy-hM&mode=related&search=

Watch for Pirlo's freekick.

[2muchket!]

Bayern Vs Man Utd in the Champions League final.

[Pastorius]

c) Man U vs Liverpool, 93-94

3-3

United go 3 up in the first half, Liverpool claw back to a 3-3 draw, t hanks to Nigel Clough

[poorquality]

No arguments from me they play some absolutely breathtaking football. But when they need to grind out results (which all title winners have been able to do) they simply can't.

See that's why I think United are so good at the moment, we showed we can play the best of Arsenal and the best of Chelsea.

What I mean is, we can play breathtaking flair football and entertain crowds like against Roma.

And we can grind out results when we need to like against Liverpool (A) and Fulham last season

[2muchket!]

Which is why Man Utd are current premiership champions.

Chelsea when playing 4-3-3 with the 2 wingers play some good stuff. Hopefully we'll get to see some good football out of them this year.

[rocknrollstar5]

By the way, what is the best Football game you guys have ever watched?

The 98/99 FA Cup Semi-Final Replay, Man Utd vs Arsenal. That is the best game i have ever seen

[ChodaBoy]

So the season starts tomorrow, anyone not signed up to the fantasy league - get your arse there now!

Not really looking forward to the season now though, £40m spent on 8 players I've never heard of. They have been thrown together 2 weeks before the first game

[rocknrollstar5]

where is it?

[ChodaBoy]

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

[rustysurf84]

Just set my team up :D

GK- Howards
Defenders- Jakielka, Gallas, Chimbonda, Agger
MF- Fabregas, Essien, Speed, Reo-Coker
Fowards- Van Persie, Yakuba

Anyone else think Chelsea could get off to a slow start? They got hit by the injury bug quite badly early.

[Dave de Sylvia]

is there an mx league set up?

[talk show host]

yeah, 65888-21627 is the code

[2muchket!]

Aye. Funny seeing a lot of Mxers real names. Although it was obvious who I am.

[talk show host]

there's not many of us this year :(

how come we can't see each others teams? or am I just doing something wrong

[ChodaBoy]

Sheeeet! 4 of my choices are injured, and it wont let me have any transfers.

Did anyone not use their real names?

[Dead Star]

I have Woodgate, Terry, Baines and Lita out injured.

I have 2 defenders left =/

[talk show host]

I have Lita injured. What a pillock, who gets injured getting out of bed ffs

[Echleon]

Lolcano has joined the league :)

[Dave de Sylvia]

I have Lita injured. What a pillock, who gets injured getting out of bed ffs
hahaha

Given is my only injury right now, and he should be back in 2 weeks.

[rustysurf84]

My only one is Lita, is there some prize within MX for the winner?

[rocknrollstar5]

pride

[brensten32]

how come some of you guys have injured guys?

i'm pretty new at this and i have a bad feeling about the people i chose. i just picked them because i knew them and im seeing that many people dont have guys that i chose. so just let me know whether my team is good or bad.

GK Van der Sar
DF Carvalho Ferdinand Senderos Ferreira
MF Seol Gerrard Hargreaves Kewell
FW Shevchenko Defoe
subtitutes Hahnemann (GK) Dawson (DF) Sissoko (MF) Smith (FW)

[rustysurf84]

Eh, from being an Arsenal supporter, Senderos is a liability IMO. Schevchenko is a risk, but he could turn out to be a bit better this year. You look alright, should do fine.

[talk show host]

I can't see Defoe playing that many games. Same with Ferreira if Chelsea manage to get Alves.

[RockerGav]

Thats me got my team in guys, I know I don't post here much anymore but there it is anyway:

GK: Lehmann
DF: Riise, Finnan, Geremi, Carvalho
MF: Ronaldo (C), Malbranque, Van Der Meyde, Rosicky, Kewell
ST: Tevez

Subs from: Gordon,King,O'Connor, Mpenza

[Minus The Flair]

Wow, been away for a few days, lots of conversation in the best thread on sputnik.

I set my team up a while ago, no changes, I doubt I'll be involved with it much this year.

GK: Hahnemann (Kirkland)
DF: Finnan, Ferdinand, Jagielka, Woodgate (Lescott)
MF: Bentley, Hargreaves, Jenas, Alonso (Reo-Coker)
FW: Rooney, Berbatov (Nonda)

Finally season starts today, can't watch any matches, but I'm looking forward to the old panel back on MOTD tonight.

[poorquality]

It's back...it's finally back...real football. I am so damn happy.

[E sharp]

Even first half for spurs and black cats. A few chances for each. Berbatov's chance especially!

EDIT: For christs sake spurs. Way to soak up pressure and go to sleep. We lose 1-0 last minute of injury time

[rocknrollstar5]

what a way to kick off the new season, sunderland are top of the premiership