Euro 2008 (Official Man City LOL Thread)

[Lord Abortion]

Man United bid 10m for Carrick

Excellent.

[TakeWarning]

Man United bid 10m for Carrick

Excellent.
You'd better not get him, he's our key midfielder.

If Spurs don't sign someone worthwhile, I'm going to hurt people.

[TakeWarning]

Seems the World Cup thread's owning this thread for the next four weeks.

I think we should try and keep the World Cup talk out of here and into the other thread until the tournament's over and all the hype has died down .

[Lord Abortion]

You'd better not get him, he's our key midfielder.

If Spurs don't sign someone worthwhile, I'm going to hurt people.
I know...It would be an excellent signing for us, he's someone I rate very highly.

Okay, to move attention away from the world cup...what signings would you like your club to realistically make over the summer?

Mine for United are;

In-

Michael Carrick-Spurs-£12m
Juan Roman Requilme-Villarreal-£14m
Fernando Torres-Athletico Madrid-£18m

Out-

Luis Saha-£8m

[Frankie]

In -
Robert Huth £2m
Douala £2m

Out -
Job (any fee)
Nemeth (any fee)

[RandyfromPennywise]

I know...It would be an excellent signing for us, he's someone I rate very highly.

Okay, to move attention away from the world cup...what signings would you like your club to realistically make over the summer?

Mine for United are;

In-

Michael Carrick-Spurs-£12m
Juan Roman Requilme-Villarreal-£14m
Fernando Torres-Athletico Madrid-£18m

Out-

Luis Saha-£8m
Riquelme: Try £24 million, at least, I'd say.

For Chelsovic:

In:

Shevchenko £30m
Kalou £4m
Ballack for nothing except a lot of wages
Adriano £55m
Ronaldinho £80m
Mancini £10m

Out:

Huth £2m to Boro
C. Cole £2m to Spurs
Robben £20m to Real or somewhere
Glen Johnson £5m to Lyon
Ballack £20m to United

[Lord Abortion]

All the reports I heard say he's £10m rated

Which is crap. He's worth probably much more around the figure you suggest

[RandyfromPennywise]

I heard you already had a bid of around £10m rejected just before the Champo semis for Juan Roman.

If you were going to get either he or Carrick, it's interesting to analyse how signing one or the other would alter your tactics. If you signed Riquelme, I'd say that you'd play Roon + 1 up front with Riquelme in behind, which then makes Cristiano's position interesting, because if you were to play with him wide on the right that means there's only two midfield positions left... Or maybe Fergie would play Riquelme deeper, but I'd advise against that. On the other hand, if you signed Carrick, he'd obviously play deeper in the centre, and your formation would be pretty much the same as this year, with Carrick playing the O'Shea position... So all in all signing Riquelme would potentially be more of a risk, but at the same time has the potential to really change the team in a positive way and have a big impact. The Carrick signing would be more of a case of 'what we have we hold', in essence Fergie would be saying he believes his team is fundamentally good enough and not in need of drastic reshuffle. Interesting to see what happens.

[Lord Abortion]

I'd like to see this

.................................Van Nistlerooy........................................ ..

...........................Rooney................. .Riquelme.............................

...................Giggs...............Carrick.... .............Ronaldo...................

.............Heinze..........Vidic.............Fer dinand...........Neville................

.......................................Van Der sar.............................................

[Frankie]

^ That would IMO, its basically the role that Roon's been playing this season. However do you believe RVN will stay.

[Dead Star]

You could easily replace RVN with Torres though.

[Lord Abortion]

^ That would IMO, its basically the role that Roon's been playing this season. However do you believe RVN will stay.
I believe the man when he says he loves the club and wants to stay.

He won't leave unless Fergie forces him out, which he seems to be doing.
I have no idea why, unless they have a secret bid lined up for someone amazingly talented, and for me, there's not many people in the world better than him, there is no possible reason to keep him out of the side.

And in my team before, rotate Scholes with the two behind Ruud.

I would really rather Ruud stayed than pretty much anyone else came.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Torres is nowhere near as good as RvN. He's good but he is not world-class, which Ruud obviously is and has been for some years now.

Lord - that formation's pretty decent, it's pretty flexible as well, because if Giggo and Ronnie went out wide, Riquelme could drop back into the centre so you could quite easily adapt between using wingers and wide-men to focussing everything through the centre with Juan Roman.

But meh, you probably won't sign either in all honesty.

[TakeWarning]

I hope Man U don't steal Carrick off us. :(

[RandyfromPennywise]

**** Cahill's value just went up about £40m.

Best game of Football ever.

[red barchetta]

:( :( :(

nice game Ausralia. you were the better team

[Lord Abortion]

Torres is nowhere near as good as RvN. He's good but he is not world-class, which Ruud obviously is and has been for some years now.

Lord - that formation's pretty decent, it's pretty flexible as well, because if Giggo and Ronnie went out wide, Riquelme could drop back into the centre so you could quite easily adapt between using wingers and wide-men to focussing everything through the centre with Juan Roman.

But meh, you probably won't sign either in all honesty.
It would be too much to ask with the ludicrous way that United go about making transfers.

Ronaldinho, Robben, etc. etc.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

:( :( :(

nice game Ausralia. you were the better team
Ah man, what happened to Japan! They had a lot of good chances but as you once said, midfield is great, defence and strikers are average. That was demonstrated today and it cost them. I felt sorry for Japan, I hoped they would do well this year (no offence to the aussies at all, full credit to 'em).
Well done Australia, I supported Japan today but I wanna see the Aussies beat the Croatians.

[RandyfromPennywise]

It would be too much to ask with the ludicrous way that United go about making transfers.

Ronaldinho, Robben, etc. etc.
Yeah I seriously reckon if your board said "look here's £40m, go spend" you could buy both those players, but - like you said - the way you go about transfers has cost you big-time in the past. Ronnie Dinyo being the big mistake.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah I seriously reckon if your board said "look here's £40m, go spend" you could buy both those players, but - like you said - the way you go about transfers has cost you big-time in the past. Ronnie Dinyo being the big mistake.
Yes exactly, if we'd stopped messing around and just given PSG and him what they wanted, Barca wouldn't have even offered him anything.

[red barchetta]

Ah man, what happened to Japan! They had a lot of good chances but as you once said, midfield is great, defence and strikers are average. That was demonstrated today and it cost them. I felt sorry for Japan, I hoped they would do well this year (no offence to the aussies at all, full credit to 'em).
Well done Australia, I supported Japan today but I wanna see the Aussies beat the Croatians.
Australia were able to make that comeback for 3 reasons:

1) Japan arent that good.
2) They were more determined to make an impact in the WC.

and most importantly...

3) Guus Hiddink is ther manager.

oh well...

on a plus note though, Rosicky is looking like a ****ing excellent signing for Arsenal :)

[Frankie]

He is like. I was very impressed by him today.

[RandyfromPennywise]

If I was manager of Chelsea, Rosický would've been playing for my team a few seasons ago!

[Frankie]

Eeesshhh its a shame my Football Manager thread in Media didn't take off really. Although I could revive it or remake one hmmmmm.

[Lord Abortion]

Roy Keane retires from football due to his longstanding hip injury.

Cheers for the memories, Keano

[RandyfromPennywise]

Eeesshhh its a shame my Football Manager thread in Media didn't take off really. Although I could revive it or remake one hmmmmm.
Ah man I posted this massive post in that thread and as I hit post you know my connection failed and when I pressed back it was all gone. The long story cut short is the post was about my historic Champions League semi-final win against Arsenal (with Chelsea), 5-5 on aggregate, 4-4 in the second leg, we won on away goals. The most amazing game I've ever seen on FM. We went 2-0 down in the second leg after an Henry double, after 20 minutes. Me being the astute tactictician that I am :p immediately took off Wayne Bridge for Gudjohnsen. Pulled it back to 2-2 at the half. Arsenal romped away to a 4-2 lead within ten minutes of half-time, so I was making changes every couple of minutes to try and get somethig. Nothing. So I went all-out attack, and Lampard being the hero he is pulled one back on 88 minutes from a Gudjohnsen through-ball. With no hope left I went to 5 strikers, throwing big John Terry up to centre-forward. On 93 minutes, a quick interchange of passes in the midfield saw Lampard play in Gudjohnsen and a magnificent diagonal run from Crespo was rewarded with a fine pass from Gudjohnsen and Hernan found acres of space in the Arsenal box AND SLOTS HOME FOR THE WINNER IN THE DYING MOMENTS OF THE GAME AT HIGHBURY GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAALLLLLL!!!! 4-4, we went through to the final on away goals and beat Bayern to complete the quintruple (Charity Shield, Prem, League Cup, FA Cup and Champo.) The champo semi was my best ever game on FM. I saved the game and have watched it a couple of times since, oh the memories!

The game I've been playing recently has been with Halifax, just got them up to the Championship, spent two seasons in Conference then went up to League Two, first season went up to League One and first season there we got promoted to the Championship. Got this gun Brazilian Taianan, absolute class. But I haven't been able to play for the last few weeks with Uni being so hectic, but when semester finishes (next Wed) I'll be back to it. It'll be total football then: FM during the day and World Cup during the night!

Well that story was probably about as long as the other one really :lol: Hope this actually posts this time!

And I got my new Australia kit today with BRESCIANO 23 on it, absolute quali'y, cost a pretty penny though but after last night who cares!

[TakeWarning]

And I got my new Australia kit today with BRESCIANO 23 on it, absolute quali'y, cost a pretty penny though but after last night who cares!

Pics?

[Frankie]

I'm gonna get the new england away shirt and get franky put on the back.

[RandyfromPennywise]

I'm gonna get the new england away shirt and get franky put on the back.
Ah that's it lad.

[Minus The Flair]

I guess Australia Cahill shirts are gonna sell like crazy

[RandyfromPennywise]

Pics?
<<<<<------- :EDIT

I just took a photo of the back of it, resized it a bit so it's not too big, but how do I paste it into the post like some other geesers have done in the past? I know, I'll make it my avatar then you can see it!

Double EDIT: I changed my avatar again, I liked the idea of playing around taking photos of my shirts so now that's all the shirts I have with names and numbers on them. $40 to anyone who can tell me what each shirt is, and I would pay up if anyone got it too!

[TakeWarning]

Well, I know a few of those but I know you won't pay up so I don't think I'll bother figuring out the other ones.

By the way, nice collection.

[Frankie]

10. is that zola's old chelsea shirt ???

[RandyfromPennywise]

10. is that zola's old chelsea shirt ???
Nah that's my Zidane France shirt, I think I might put it on now! Man it's great to see Zidane playing, only a few more times we can do it ever.

[Minus The Flair]

This sounds a bit dumb but is Zidane retiring from football altogether after the WC or just international

[Lord Abortion]

Football alltogether.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Yeah he probably has about 4 or 5 matches left, ever! Better make the most of watching him while we can.

[Lord Abortion]

I love international tournaments, it's a real treat to be able to see football on TV. Bastard Sky sprots and their monopoly...I get to see maybe 20 games a season normally, and that's just with the cup and the Champions league.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Yeah I know! Its either Champions League or the highlights on Match of the Day (or World Cup of course) but no full premiership matches.

[RandyfromPennywise]

HA! We get, per week, here in Australia, on pay-TV, which 30% of us have:

5 Live Premier League games,
3 or 4 Live La Liga Games
2 Live Serie A Games (but these are always Treviso or Livorno :upset: )
1 Live Dutch Game

Then with A-League we get 4 of those live, and Champo we get 8 a week in the group stage, and normally 2 FA Cup games per round in the early stages.

FOXTEL is only worth the $16-17 a week from August to May.

[jimmypagefan]

broncos rule

[Kickflip_Burrito]

No.

And for anyone who watched Brazil v Croatia, I think the biggest talk will be about Ronaldo. What was going on there?

[Frankie]

^ Rong fred

No.

And for anyone who watched Brazil v Croatia, I think the biggest talk will be about Ronaldo. What was going on there?
Jesus Christ I kno whatcha mean.

[DCShoes]

No.

And for anyone who watched Brazil v Croatia, I think the biggest talk will be about Ronaldo. What was going on there?

I saw it. He looked bored. I think he got the ball maybe 4 times in that game.

I was expecting more from him.

[RandyfromPennywise]

broncos rule
This is real Football, not NRL.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Well Eidur Gudjohnsen is leaving Chelsea to join Barçelona. I would like to thank Eidur on behalf of all Chelsea fans and fans of Football in general. Seventy-eight goals in 177 starts and 86 sub appearances, and some sensational strikes among them. A truly class player with great touch, technique, vision and flair he will be missed by the Stamford Bridge faithful and all followers of the English game. Takk fyrir Eiður.

[Minus The Flair]

Well Eidur Gudjohnsen is leaving Chelsea to join Barçelona. I would like to thank Eidur on behalf of all Chelsea fans and fans of Football in general. Seventy-eight goals in 177 starts and 86 sub appearances, and some sensational strikes among them. A truly class player with great touch, technique, vision and flair he will be missed by the Stamford Bridge faithful and all followers of the English game. Takk fyrir Eiður.

Yes, yes, yes. True treasure of the Premiership. Although I never knew he was leaving, stupid Abromavich

[Minus The Flair]

I saw it. He looked bored. I think he got the ball maybe 4 times in that game.

I was expecting more from him.

He needs to put down the pies. I saw him and he was looking faaaaat.
Anywa, are Man U still buying Torres? Cause they definitely should, he was awesome against Ukraine. Probably be about infinity billion pounds though

[RandyfromPennywise]

I read £20 to £25 million today. If they sign him plus the centre-mid they've been needing to sign for 3 or 4 years, they could really push us next season.

Rooney, Ronaldo, Torres - three of the best young attacking players going around, that'd be a feared combo for any team, and if Ruud stays it could be lethal.

[Frankie]

Hes struggling to accomadate RVN with saha and Ronn, imagine what fergie will do if he buys Torres aswell.

[RandyfromPennywise]

He'll probably start with Fletcher as striker, O'Shea left winger, bring back Djemba-Djemba for AMC and put Liam Miller on the right wing. Ah Fergie.

[Lord Abortion]

He'll probably start with Fletcher as striker, O'Shea left winger, bring back Djemba-Djemba for AMC and put Liam Miller on the right wing. Ah Fergie.
Nothing wrong with the first two players.


Why the hell doesn't he just rotate the strikers?
Four great strikers in Ruud, Saha, Torres and Rooney, you could just play them aternately.

There are certain players that I, as a United fan, crap my pants when I see lining up against us...Eidur you were one of them. Good luck at Barca. You'll be great.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Yeah Eidur did some of his best work against the devils of Manchester.

I rate O'Shea actually as well.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Need some advice quickly fellas. I can get a Chelsea shirt (this season's white (powder blue) away), long-sleeved with printing on it for £20 (that's including delivery). So I have enough shirts but I'm thinking of getting 22 Gudjohnsen. D'ya reckon it'd be shıt getting a shirt of a player who has left the club? I mean really I could care less because I love Gudjohnsen and he's gone to a good club anyway, not like he's gone to Arsenal or Scouse or Fulham or something, but I would like to hear what you guys reckon. It's really cheap for printing, delivery, everything for £20.

[Frankie]

I was gonna get a Celtic shirt and Juninho on the back so I'd say go for it:thumb:

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Why is everyone so upset about Gudjohnsen? Players come and go all the time.

Plus Chelski have Shevchenko now so its not as if their strike force is now lacking. I reckon Sheva is going to do very well in the Premiership.

[Kyle]

I wish Newcastle had bought a player like Gudjohnson. But to be fair Barcelona is most probably a better prospect, lol.

[sgrevs]

I hope Liverpool buy Fernando Torres. He is a freak. I don't even know if they were in the market for him.

[Grutte Pier]

I hope Liverpool buy Fernando Torres. He is a freak. I don't even know if they were in the market for him.

Aren't liverpool hunting for Kuyt, thought I heard rumors.

[Frankie]

I heard the geordies were after Kuyt

[RandyfromPennywise]

Why is everyone so upset about Gudjohnsen? Players come and go all the time.

Plus Chelski have Shevchenko now so its not as if their strike force is now lacking. I reckon Sheva is going to do very well in the Premiership.
Because he has been such a good player for Chelsea and a fan favourite. Also it's a bit disappointing because he was definitely good enough to play more than he has over the last two seasons.

[TakeWarning]

Gudjohnsen was really great to watch, I'm gonna miss him.

[Kyle]

I heard the geordies were after KuytEverybodies after Kuyt, I don't know much about him, but he sounds like he could be a good buy for the toon.

[TakeWarning]

Seen Kuyt play a few times, didn't seem that special to me.

Meh, I could be wrong.

Meh.

[Frankie]

He has a good goal scoring record 'parently

[RandyfromPennywise]

He has a good goal scoring record 'parently
Kuyt's bloody good. Works really hard, good finisher.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

What about Van Persie's goal eh? Wow.

[Frankie]

Aye was a good free kick.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Hargreaves to start for England apparently, in place of Gerrard......:angry:

[TakeWarning]

Hargreaves to start for England apparently, in place of Gerrard......:angry:

That's dumb, I guess Sven thinks this game doesn't matter since they're already through.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Guus has dropped Bresciano (I am wearing my Bresciano shirt while typing) but I must have faith in Guus. Looks like the Aussies are playing a 3-4-2-1 which can switch to a 5-2-2-1:

-------Schwarz--------
--Popa--Neill----Moore--
-Emmo-----------Chipper
-----Grella---Culina-----
---Sterjovski-Cahill------
-------Viduka----------

Nervous! COME ON ROOOOOOOS.

[Lord Abortion]

Hargreaves to start for England apparently, in place of Gerrard......:angry:
But...he's a German:(

[JohnTerry]

Netherlands against Portugal is looking like a really good potential game for R16 in world cup.

[Frankie]

Aye that should be a good game.

[matt_h]

Hargreaves to start for England apparently, in place of Gerrard......:angry:
But...he's a German:(
sven, what the **** is wrong with carrick?! hargreaves is a useless german who runs around like a headless chicken. what was the point in playing carrick in the b game if he wont be used?

[Frankie]

^ Then again whats the point in picking Walcott if he doesn't play. Sven doesn't make rational decisions, we've had to put up with this **** for a while now, and I'm glad to see the back of him.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Yeah, to replace Gerrard, I'd put Downing or Carrick in his place. Why does Sven pick Hargreaves, even the England fans have been booing him when he comes on. Doesn't Sven get it?!

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, seriously, if you want to play for England and be liked by fans..DON'T BE A BIG GERMAN!

[Frankie]

Or don't play like a headless goose.

[Frankie]

I don't get the point of picking Carrick to specifically play him in the hoding role, and then not play him. Its just a stupid decision. I feel sorry for the club that gets Sven as a manager next. Looks like we might lose JFH as well, which is a shame :(

[TakeWarning]

Carrick's a ridiculous amount better than Hargreaves, this is a joke.

[Frankie]

He is indeed. How hargreaves got into the last WC team is beyond me.

[Minus The Flair]

Hargreaves knows something about Sven, something that Sven doesn't want anyone knowing. That's how he's in the squad. And btw I know I'm gonna get raped for this but Hargreaves did not do that badly in the first half. He kept the ball well, rarely gave it away, picked up stray balls and made some decent challenges. Maybe I'm crazy but I thought he was good. Not good second half though and I would of still chosen Carrick

[TakeWarning]

Yeah he didn't play too badly...mind you, he didn't really do anything useful.

[Grego1985]

---------Robinson---------
Neville--Rio--Terry--A.Cole
---------Hargreaves-------
Beckham------------J.Cole
-----Gerrard---Lampard----
---------ROONEY----------

That is the way to go my friends.......

[Frankie]

^ Now replace Hargreaves with Carrick and your onto a winner. I too think (like I said in the WC thread) that Hargreaves didn't do badly against Sweden he made some good tackles and such.

[matt_h]

i agree, he was ok, didnt play bad, but carrick is still better

[Kickflip_Burrito]

People think Hargreaves is good now only because he didn't play an absolute shítter like he normally does.

I'd much prefer to see Carrick in the starting XI than Hargreaves.

[Zmev]

Lets go US/Italy

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I dunno who I want to go through, Ghana or Czech.

[Lord Abortion]

According to the paper today, United up their Carrick bid to 14.25m

[jpshortstuff]

I dunno who I want to go through, Ghana or Czech.
i want Ghana to, they played so well against Czech

[Frankie]

Hmmmm I really do think its gonna have to be a bid in the region of 18m to pry him away. Torres looks like a good striker and a good signin if you united get him.

[Lord Abortion]

I can't see why not, it's not like they need to bring money into the club.

Yeah, that's what I meant...Getting Carrick is all well and good, but he's not worth that much, and if they had the chance to buy Petit for less than half that, it would make better sense.

And then there's that flair midfielder we've been lacking for a few years now.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, apparently Fergie cut short his holiday this summer to watch Requilme in the WC.

/Prays

[TakeWarning]

Getting Riquelme would be amazing for any team, especially since Man U's midfield is aging.

[matt_h]

but villareal will ask £30m+ probably

[red barchetta]

Opening fixtures for 06/07 season in Premier League:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/5105000.stm

Premiership opening weekend fixtures 19 August:

Arsenal v Aston Villa
Bolton v Tottenham
Chelsea v Man City
Everton v Watford
Man Utd v Fulham
Newcastle v Wigan
Portsmouth v Blackburn
Reading v Middlesbrough
Sheff Utd v Liverpool
West Ham v Charlton


Tuesday, 22 August:

Charlton v Man Utd
Middlesbrough v Chelsea
Tottenham v Sheff Utd
Watford v West Ham
Wigan v Arsenal (POSTPONED - new date TBC)


Wednesday, 23 August:

Aston Villa v Reading
Blackburn v Everton
Fulham v Bolton
Liverpool v Newcastle (POSTPONED - new date TBC)
Man City v Portsmouth

[matt_h]

i presume the arsenal/liverpool games are postponed coz of champions league qualifiers...?

[Kickflip_Burrito]

For all you Aussies and Aussie fans, although I'm sure some of you may already know, Australia are planning a bid for the 2014 World Cup.

[Timm]

For all you Aussies and Aussie fans, although I'm sure some of you may already know, Australia are planning a bid for the 2014 World Cup.
2010 is austria/switzerland right?

[Kickflip_Burrito]

2010 is austria/switzerland right?
2010 World Cup is South Africa.

2008 European Championships is Switzerland + Austria.

[Timm]

ah ok
I just heard something about austria and switzerland

[Frankie]

Opening fixtures for 06/07 season in Premier League:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/5105000.stm

Premiership opening weekend fixtures 19 August:

Arsenal v Aston Villa
Bolton v Tottenham
Chelsea v Man City
Everton v Watford
Man Utd v Fulham
Newcastle v Wigan
Portsmouth v Blackburn
Reading v Middlesbrough
Sheff Utd v Liverpool
West Ham v Charlton


Tuesday, 22 August:

Charlton v Man Utd
Middlesbrough v Chelsea
Tottenham v Sheff Utd
Watford v West Ham
Wigan v Arsenal (POSTPONED - new date TBC)


Wednesday, 23 August:

Aston Villa v Reading
Blackburn v Everton
Fulham v Bolton
Liverpool v Newcastle (POSTPONED - new date TBC)
Man City v Portsmouth
Well nice and easy game for us to start our season off with. Then we host Chelsea. I hope Yak gives 'em another battering like the last time we played.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Well nice and easy game for us to start our season off with. Then we host Chelsea. I hope Yak gives 'em another battering like the last time we played.
No chance of that mate. That was punishment for me as it was one of the only games for about four years that I haven't watched, as I was on the plane back from London. So that won't happen this time, and I'll be watching us beat the Boro, with Sheva scoring a double past Huthy.

[TakeWarning]

I doubt Australia will get to host the 2014 world cup, after all, we've only been in it twice, and there's no guarantee that we'll make it in 2010.

[Lord Abortion]

That didn't stop the US getting it in '94.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I doubt Australia will get to host the 2014 world cup, after all, we've only been in it twice, and there's no guarantee that we'll make it in 2010.
Also, host nation automatically qualify so yuo wouldn't need to worry about qualification.
I reckon Australia would get it, there has never been a World Cup in the Oceania area. Does Australia have the stadiums though?

Dom Joly from TriggerHappyTV pwns a German

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5-H6ZW0KE&search=england%20fans

This is politically correct abuse

[Frankie]

Also, host nation automatically qualify so yuo wouldn't need to worry about qualification.
I reckon Australia would get it, there has never been a World Cup in the Oceania area. Does Australia have the stadiums though?

Dom Joly from TriggerHappyTV pwns a German

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5-H6ZW0KE&search=england%20fans

This is politically correct abuse

I think they do have quite a few good sized stadiums, if they have enough for the WC I don't know. Oh and Randy I know that chances are we won't beat yas but still I'm looking forward to Yak pwn Carvalho again :p

[TakeWarning]

Does Australia have the stadiums though?



No it's ridiculous, where I live (Perth), has a population of roughly 1.4 million people, but our biggest stadium is of low quality and seats 39,000 people.

Whereas some of the stadiums in Germany have much less people and much bigger stadiums.

Aside from in Perth, we have good stadiums in Melbourne, Brisbane and Sydney, so we only really have 3 stadiums suitable for the job.

[Timm]

Dom Joly from TriggerHappyTV pwns a German

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5-H6ZW0KE&search=england%20fans

This is politically correct abuse
:lol:

that was great

ukraine tunesia isn't too exciting atm :-/

[Kobaia]

go Ravens

[munky_magik]

go Ravens
Yeah, this isn't an NFL thread.

[Kobaia]

Yeah, this isn't an NFL thread.
i know

[Frankie]

^ Thought you'd be funny eh ?

[TakeWarning]

go Ravens

You're an idiot, get the **** out before I come after your family.

[RandyfromPennywise]

So Bellamy's signed for Liverpool no? I heard £10m.

Puts it in perspective really doesn't it: Chelsea get Shevchenko and Scouse sign Bellamy. **** club no fans.

[Pinhead13]

I doubt Australia will get to host the 2014 world cup, after all, we've only been in it twice, and there's no guarantee that we'll make it in 2010.

I think FIFA decided to rotate continents, in 2014 it's going to be Brazil.

[matt_h]

2002: Asia (Japan/Korea) (Forgot about them)
2006: Europe (Germany)
2010: Africa (South Africa)
2014: South America
2018: ?
2022: ?

In 2000, following the dramatic result of the voting for the host nation of the 2006 FIFA World Cup™ with Germany prevailing by 12 votes to 11 (with one abstention), the FIFA Executive Committee decided to introduce a rotation policy for the FIFA World Cup™ and accorded Africa the right to host the 2010 FIFA World Cup™. FIFA’s flagship event will be held in South America in 2014.

[TakeWarning]

2002: Asia (Japan/ South Korea)
2006: Europe (Germany)
2010: Africa (South Africa)
2014: South America
2018: ?
2022: ?

Well, 2018 could probably be Australia, I'm not sure if they'll go to the US again so soon, and I'm presuming they won't hold it in Anarctica.

[matt_h]

lol

when are England meant to be applying? I thought it was 2018, so perhaps the Oz apply in the Asia slot

The host country for the 2014 World Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup), which FIFA has earmarked for South America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America), will be named in 2008. The expected choice is Brazil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) since CSF, the South American Football Federation, has already indicated their preference[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup_hosts#_note-4). Chile and Argentina had shown some interest, hoping to follow the same path as Korea-Japan 2002. Also Australia might bid for the 2014 World Cup, and has the support of the government and fans, yet is unlikely. Several nations have expressed interest in hosting the 2018 World Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup). However, FIFA has not decided which continent will host either tournament,[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup_hosts#_note-5) as they have indicated they might back out of the rotation. Thus it is possible that the 2014 FIFA World Cup may not be held in South America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America) (though a bid from the continent is a "strong favorite").
An England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England)-hosted or a combined United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) tournament is a strong possibility for the 2018 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018) World Cup.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

A UK World Cup, haha, most of the games would be played in England.

So the 2006 World Cup voting was a 12-11 victory to Germany, who was the other nation?

[RandyfromPennywise]

I'd say 2018 or 2022 the Cup will come to Australia.

(I mean we will win the Cup! and maybe host it too.)

[clown_phobia]

If the Australian public can embrace soccer the way they embrace footy and cricket, I'm sure the cup will be here eventually.

[XxXRandom_RegectXxX]

my favourite football player is berrick barnes he is from an australian team called the broncos:P

[TakeWarning]

If the Australian public can embrace soccer the way they embrace footy and cricket, I'm sure the cup will be here eventually.

AFL's popularity seems to be fading pretty fast around here, the fans are less fanatical, we play soccer instead of footy at lunchtime now...

Which is good, becuase I hate AFL.

[Frankie]

Well a Uk WC in 2018 would be good. I could imagine Man Utd/City's ground would be used, as would the gooners stadium. The Millenium stadium would be good for the final, as we all know that wembley just isn't going to finish. Ever

[Lord Abortion]

If Liverpool get this proposed "New Anfield" stadium, then that, too.

[Timm]

The Millenium stadium would be good for the final, as we all know that wembley just isn't going to finish. Ever
and since '66 you english haven't been too lucky there ;)

but till 2018 it's crap load of time.
most of the new stadiums here in germany hadn't been finished till 2003. the allianz arena in munich was only finished last year I think

[matt_h]

A UK World Cup, haha, most of the games would be played in England.

So the 2006 World Cup voting was a 12-11 victory to Germany, who was the other nation?

South Africa came second to Germany, before beating Morocco to the 2010 WC.

How many stadiums are required for a bid?

[Timm]

well this world cup is played in 12 different stadiums and we have more than those 12 that would have been up to fifa standard so ...

I ahve no idea...12 maybe?

[matt_h]

1 wembley
2 old trafford
3 emirates stadium
4 new anfield
5 st james
6 stamford bridge
7 white hart lane
8 villa park
9 city of manchester stadium

10 millenium stadium
11 hamden park
12 celtic park

or if england only...
10 stadium of light
11 reebok stadium
12 new everton

at a guess

[Kickflip_Burrito]

The reason why England bids for the World Cup have been rejected is because apparently, English stadiums are too old and old-fashioned.

I call it vintage :D

EDIT : They're building a giant Olympics complex for the London 2012 olympics, so I guess that stadium could be turfed and used as another football stadium?

[matt_h]

i like the oldness of some stadium, just as long as they arent a tip. all the new sleek and silver ones just arent homely, probably cos they stand out so much from the buildings around them.

[HipHopDontStop]

i agree, old stadiums have better atmosphere and are more homely i feel, whereas some new stadiums here just feel like soulless boxes imo. However, if we want to host the world cup we'll need more new stadia probably.

[ChodaBoy]

i agree, old stadiums have better atmosphere and are more homely i feel, whereas some new stadiums here just feel like soulless boxes imo. However, if we want to host the world cup we'll need more new stadia probably.
A perfect example would be COMS, Maine Road used to be a loud place to be in, with a great atmosphere.

But now, at COMS, because of the "modern design" its so open and takes almost the entire crowd to generate some decent noise.

[Lord Abortion]

Anyone who's been to the New Den knows what a stupid thing it is to put a brand new stadium in the biggest shithole you can find.

[Frankie]

The reason why England bids for the World Cup have been rejected is because apparently, English stadiums are too old and old-fashioned.

I call it vintage :D

EDIT : They're building a giant Olympics complex for the London 2012 olympics, so I guess that stadium could be turfed and used as another football stadium?

It would be turfed anyway for field sports like the javelin, so it wouldn't need much work just goals being put up and pitches marked out.

i like the oldness of some stadium, just as long as they arent a tip. all the new sleek and silver ones just arent homely, probably cos they stand out so much from the buildings around them.
Yeah I hear that. I'm forever told by older supporters that the noise and atmosphere was amazing in Ayresome park. Sadly it was before my time so I can't compare to the Riverside.

[poorquality]

Apparently Ronaldo wants to move to Real Madrid

Source (http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=398695&CPID=8&clid=359&lid=&title=Ronaldo+ready+for+Real+switch)

But United have been quick to respond

Source (http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=398793&CPID=23&clid=359&lid=3&title=United+quick+in+Ronaldo+denial)

the worrying thing is I could see him wanting the move to be closer to home, I mean we don't know how english life is going for him, he may be homesick...if he goes it better be for 30+ Mil :P

Views?

[DonMancini]

World Cup canada 2022!

*cries*

I've been considering going to south africa, but goddamn it's expensive.

[TakeWarning]

World Cup canada 2022!

*cries*

I've been considering going to south africa, but goddamn it's expensive.

Everything's really cheap over there, it's great.

I think it'll be worth it for the experience of a lifetime.

[matt_h]

my friends got showered with free condoms when they went

[Mother]

A collection of Football Dives (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrvRGTVkv6Y&search=football%20dives)


Lol @ Drogba

[matt_h]

****ing pathetic, when will fifa do something

[Minus The Flair]

Ha, Robbens reaction when he's stroked on the face by Reina, like he's seen his best friend die or something. NOOOO! And when they both fall at the end, genius. But yeah, has to stop, but it never will

[matt_h]

they should add the ghana dive today.
i remember a great one a few years ago when viera just fell to the floor with no-one within several feet.
post match video replays and suspensions now fifa!

[Frankie]

Those cheats should be stamped out.

[Timm]

add torres to the video
jeez if I was a referee I'd be so freaking pissed off of those obvious cheats.
I'd probably just give them a red card right away.

[Mother]

World cup dives would be a whole other video.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

A collection of Football Dives (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrvRGTVkv6Y&search=football%20dives)


Lol @ Drogba
:lol: That Atletico Madrid one near the begining against Barca was too funny, nobody around the guy and he hits the deck, classic.

Note : Drogba sucks.

[DonMancini]

Everything's really cheap over there, it's great.

I think it'll be worth it for the experience of a lifetime.
I agree, however what costs a lot is the plain ticket :-/ (like 2000 bucks). Anyways I have loads of time to think about it :p

[RandyfromPennywise]

http://www.subsidesports.com/uk/store/product_details.jsp?pid=72057594037943928&cid=72057594037931017&brc=&red=product_list.jsp?id=72057594037931017,mid=-1,

Ah you can't help but love the Bri'ish sense of humour, in'it.

[Lord Abortion]

They should be only available in XXXL.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

http://www.subsidesports.com/uk/store/product_details.jsp?pid=72057594037943928&cid=72057594037931017&brc=&red=product_list.jsp?id=72057594037931017,mid=-1,

Ah you can't help but love the Bri'ish sense of humour, in'it.
£55 for that?! Pfft! :mad:

[red barchetta]

surely Crouchinho would be a better name

[Untitled]

£55 for that?! Pfft! :mad:
My £10 england shirt > that.

[TakeWarning]

I once paid $10 Australian (4 pounds) for an Orlando Pirates shirt and $4 for the mathcing shorts, it was great.

[Minus The Flair]

So, Ronaldo to leave United. Well he must be, you must be crazy to headbutt Rooney who's on his own team at United otherwise Rooney would slaughter him when he returns.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I didn't see this headbutt on Rooney, when did it happen, during play or before the match or what?

/missed first half due to work

[Minus The Flair]

Before the match even started, they showed it in the post match analysis. It was sort of like a grinding headbutt, on the back of Rooney's head

[Frankie]

Good get him out of english football the wanker.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

C. Ronaldo really is a nob.

EDIT : not just for today, I generally dislike his wimpish, cry-baby ways.

[Frankie]

Same here, plus it looks like hes got chewing gum on his ears. And hes a cheat. And he plays for united.

[Untitled]

And he crys a lot.

*last match he played* "oh no! a tiny cut *cries* "

And he dives when someone looks at him.

And when he runs is his is realy upright.

Ive never liked him, hes a cocky cheating twat.

[Timm]

I think c ronaldo is the most hated player on the planet these days. I know not one single person who likes that guy.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I think c ronaldo is the most hated player on the planet these days. I know not one single person who likes that guy.
I'm sure some Portuguese people like him.

[Lord Abortion]

Seriously, as a Man United fan, I defend the guy a hell of alot, but I can't for any of his actions today, I'm ashamed that he's a United player, I really am.

[Give me Beer]

I think c ronaldo is the most hated player on the planet these days. I know not one single person who likes that guy.

Panama loves him, and all the girls I know like him because it seems that he's 'very hot'.

[red barchetta]

Panama loves him, and all the girls I know like him because it seems that he's 'very hot'.
yeah, loads of girls in my school like him too. i try to tell them that he's a **** but they just won't listen...

[Lord Abortion]

Well, we all know that arrogant little bastards are what Girls want, so we shouldn't be surprised.

[Britney Diva]

I like Ronaldo, he's a great player and it's not as if he's the onyl person who dives at United.

[Lord Abortion]

His football skills are exceptional, but his attitude and behaviour aren't something I can be proud of.
I criticise Arsenal and Chelsea for being arrogant little wankers, Pires, Henry and Ljunberg spring instantly to mind, so when one of our own is like that...I find it difficult to avoid being hypocritical.

[Untitled]

Apparently according to TV, Ronaldo "winked in satisfaction, as if to say 'job done' " when Roo got sent off.

[Minus The Flair]

He did, I saw it and kicked my cat.

[Minus The Flair]

And I just read that it's almost certain he'll move to Real Madrid. He says the reports are true and that after the WC 'I'll decide my life.'

[loathed]

But we cant blame everything on Ronaldo, maybe he really got cliped or something, who knows? And the Rooney incident, what was he thinking? silly kid.

[Minus The Flair]

You can blame Ronaldo for winding him up. He headbutted him before the match, blatently ran over to ask the ref to give Rooney a red which provoked him, then as he was sent off, Ronaldo gave a sly, bastardly wink to sort of say 'see ya'

[loathed]

Rooney had England's hope on his shoulders. Why would he do something so stupid and get a red card? Even if he had been provoked, he should still have kept his cool

[Minus The Flair]

I know, he's an absolute moron. I remember when he broke his foot, everyone waiting on his return. 'We can't win it without him', is what was said'. He comes back, we lose. I can't help but feel that if Owen didn't get injured we would have crushed Portugal with a 4-4-2

[Ganondorf]

I think thsoe kind of excuses are a bit redundant, I mean Portugal coped with the loss of Deco and Costhina, it's more Erkisson's fault for not bringing Defoe or Bent, or Andy Johnson or ANYONE who plays in that role.

[Minus The Flair]

Yeh, that's been true from the beginning. And the fact that he took a striker he's too scared to play, even though everyone thought it was stupid, is crazy

[TakeWarning]

To be honest, when I was playing against North Beach FC today, if their ugly striker had stepped on my central defender's groin as hard as he could, I'd probably be pretty angry. As far as I'm concerned, Rooney deserved the red card and it's not Ronaldo's fault Wayne is so easily wound up.

[Minus The Flair]

But Ronaldo set out to wind him up, Ronaldo didn't accidentally wind him up, he actually said before the game that that was his mission or some ****, hence the headbutt before kick off. Or thats what I read

[Timm]

But Ronaldo set out to wind him up, Ronaldo didn't accidentally wind him up, he actually said before the game that that was his mission or some ****, hence the headbutt before kick off. Or thats what I read
that's football...
if a player has an injured right leg defenders will try to tackle that leg to weaken him. seems unfair and harsh but that's football and on that level you need to be able to deal with it.

[Ganondorf]

Sorin - Argentina Cpatain http://spf.fotologs.net/photo/63/13/69/juan_pablo_sorin/1128797191_f.jpg

Caludio Sanchez - Coheed and Cambria http://www.splutphoto.com/warpedtour/Coheed%20&%20Cambria/slides/IMG_2454.jpg

omg twin

[TakeWarning]

that's football...


Right on the money.

Well, Ronaldo was succesful, it was a pretty good plan as it happens.

[TakeWarning]

Sorin - Argentina Cpatain http://spf.fotologs.net/photo/63/13/69/juan_pablo_sorin/1128797191_f.jpg

Caludio Sanchez - Coheed and Cambria http://www.splutphoto.com/warpedtour/Coheed%20&%20Cambria/slides/IMG_2454.jpg

omg twin

Haha, they do have similar hairstyles and both look kinda Spanish.

[Minus The Flair]

It's just as bad as diving, but no-one seems to care about it. I mean, hwe headbutted Rooney before kickoff, that's warrant for a red. I hope he misses the next game. Don't get me wrong, what Rooney did was plain wrong, I just really hate what the beautiful game has been reduced to

[Minus The Flair]

I'm still really annoyed we've not seen any of young Walcott. I wanted to see how good he really is, hopefully a bright prospect for the future. Hopefully Arsenal will play him this year. I mean they did play 12m for him. Oh ****, yeah, I completely forgot about the Premiership. United for the title

[Timm]

I hope ballack does well in chelsea and that they get lahm aswell.
we need to get more players into foreign clubs
klose will leave bremen probably aswell and I doubt that odonkor will spend so much time on the bench in dortmund next season

amusing sidenote: "lahm" means "lame" in german :)

[Minus The Flair]

Odonkor, Lahm, Ballack and Klose have been really great this tournament. And they're all German, I'd like it if one of them came to United. We are obviously going to need a new winger and striker, after Roanldo and v.Nistelrooy

[TakeWarning]

I'm still really annoyed we've not seen any of young Walcott. I wanted to see how good he really is, hopefully a bright prospect for the future. Hopefully Arsenal will play him this year. I mean they did play 12m for him. Oh ****, yeah, I completely forgot about the Premiership. United for the title

I don't see why he didn't just take Defoe instead of Walcott, I only saw Theo play for like 15 minutes I think, and England could've really used Defoe against Portugal after Wayne got himself sent off.

[Minus The Flair]

Yeh I know he's crazy. You would of thought though, that taking such a huge risk by taking Walcott, he must of thought he was good enough but never played him

[Minus The Flair]

Beckham's resigned as captain, apparently he was almost crying at press conference. Who do you think Mclaren will choose for new captain?

[ChodaBoy]

Terry

Beckham was clearly upset, he was nearly crying as he read his speech to the press. Then when he had finished he just walked off, clearly holding back the tears till behind the scenes

[Minus The Flair]

He's been a very good captain, unlucky to not win this year, his last year. Although he is the only English man to score in 3 different WCs

[Lord Abortion]

I think Beckham was a good skipper.
But hopefully England can just get over this and go onto Euro 2008 with their heads held high.

[jaymz_is_god]

But Ronaldo set out to wind him up, Ronaldo didn't accidentally wind him up, he actually said before the game that that was his mission or some ****, hence the headbutt before kick off. Or thats what I read

There's nothing wrong with that. It happens all the time with Rooney. Players know he can snap, so they try to wind him up, and who better to get under his skin than his own team-mate? Well done Ronaldo. He had a job, and he done it.

Pity that'll be him on his way out of United though :(

And in regard to the England captaincy, it's gotta be John Terry. He'll actually be able to motivate your players before a match.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Beckham's resigned as captain, apparently he was almost crying at press conference. Who do you think Mclaren will choose for new captain?
Yeah, it was really sad to watch, he paused a couple times and his voice went shaky a couple times. I think he's had his ups and downs but overall, he's been a good captain.

I personally think it'll be Gerrard or Terry as the new captain. Tbh, they're the only ones likely to. I reckon McLaren will chose Terry, Gerrard didn't really perform at the WC whereas Terry worked hard throughout. He deserves a reward.

As for Manchester United, Van Nistelrooy could stay if Ronaldo is sold off, those two hate each other. Chances are, they'll both be gone.

[Lord Abortion]

Terry will be the new skipper, which is a great choice.
In a Bobby Moore style.

I hope Ruud stays if Ronaldo goes...well, I hope Ruud stays full stop.

[Frankie]

Sad to see beckham go, but on recent peformances, Lennon really should be playing Right Wing for england. On who should be the next captain, its got to either be Gerrard or Terry.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

There's nothing wrong with that. It happens all the time with Rooney. Players know he can snap, so they try to wind him up
Sportsmanship?

[Frankie]

Well with diving and ignorant wankers like Ronaldo trying to get other players booked for challenges, sportsmanship has all but gone.

[Minus The Flair]

There's nothing wrong with that. It happens all the time with Rooney. Players know he can snap, so they try to wind him up, and who better to get under his skin than his own team-mate? Well done Ronaldo. He had a job, and he done it.

It's ok to headbutt someone in football?

[Minus The Flair]

oops double post

[jaymz_is_god]

If he can get away with it, yes. I don't like seeing it, but it happens. And we all know sportsmanship is a thing of the past.

[TakeWarning]

I don't think it's okay, even if he gets away with it.

Still, that one dude who said sportsmanship is a thing of the past is right. Today as a mate of mine was taking a throw-in some black dude stepped on his foot and goes "To win you have to cheat".

Sad but true.

[Minus The Flair]

It's not okay, thats why I hope Ronaldo gets punished for it, like many other players have

[matt_h]

in the portugal game, i thought the incident where the portugeese player went down holding his face when he was touched on the shoulder and stayed down for several minutes was pathetic and he should be banned, who was it? if fifa had any balls they would do something to stop all players from diving.

[TakeWarning]

in the portugal game, i thought the incident where the portugeese player went down holding his face when he was touched on the shoulder and stayed down for several minutes was pathetic and he should be banned, who was it? if fifa had any balls they would do something to stop all players from diving.

'Twas Maniche.

I remember that Untitled guy had a good idea how to eliminate diving, forget what it was though.

[Minus The Flair]

Yeah, I remember that Maniche thing, he went down after a tap on the shoulder. He stayed down so England kicked it out, as soon as they did, he got back up again.

[TakeWarning]

Yeah, I remember that Maniche thing, he went down after a tap on the shoulder. He stayed down so England kicked it out, as soon as they did, he got back up again.

You'll notice most people get up as soon as they realise they don't win the free kick, it's getting ridiculous, almost everyone does it these days.

[TakeWarning]

Man Ronaldo's really being ripped to shreds:

Cristiano Ronaldo (born 16th "God-Knows-What-Month", "****-Knows-What-Year in Diveland) is a professional diver and part-time midfielder for Manchester United and Portugal and shouldn't be mistaken for the Real Madrid player, Ronaldo.

Cristiano was discovered by manager Alex Ferguson (...Although we don't know what Alex discovered him doing) in the summer of 2003. Ronaldo impressed his manager after winning free kick after free kick by pissing off opposing defenders with the same trick (Stepover) over and over again (approx. 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,002 times in one attacking move), he also scored a few goals but nobody really cared about them. Ronaldo isn't the only diver at his club, his team-mate Ruud Van Nistelrooy is by far worser then the Portugese youngster.

"Professional" Cheater Ronaldo caused England to lose in the world cup of 2006 because of his wanking diving habits distracting his opponents. He also winked at his teammate, Wankshaft, like a gay idiot after getting his then club teammate, Rooney, sent off. He pretended to look like the 'balls' when he scored the winning penalty, after the Portugese goalkeeper, **** Face, pretended that he wasn't ready after Jamie Carragher scored against him.

[Minus The Flair]

:lol:

[loathed]

still, rooney was a silly kid

[Timm]

Yeah, I remember that Maniche thing, he went down after a tap on the shoulder. He stayed down so England kicked it out, as soon as they did, he got back up again.
an argie did that on friday aswell against germany but no one, neither the german players who had the ball nor the referee cared much and the game just went on. the guy was so mad when he realized that no one fell for his crap :D

[Bad Blood]

I still don't get why Carraghers goal didn't count.

pff

[talk show host]

the ref hadn't blown the whistle

[Bad Blood]

oh right

it's not like the keeper didn't see him running up, is it?

[Untitled]

oh right

it's not like the keeper didn't see him running up, is it?
The keeper when to save it, then he scored and went "oh, erm, iw asnt ready!"

[Timm]

oh right

it's not like the keeper didn't see him running up, is it?
rules are rules :-/

[Britney Diva]

His football skills are exceptional, but his attitude and behaviour aren't something I can be proud of.
I criticise Arsenal and Chelsea for being arrogant little wankers, Pires, Henry and Ljunberg spring instantly to mind, so when one of our own is like that...I find it difficult to avoid being hypocritical.
And it has nothing to do with sour grapes?

[Bad Blood]

rules are rules :-/

Yeah, I know. I'm just saying it was a little harsh on the England team.

[Britney Diva]

Man Ronaldo's really being ripped to shreds:
Haha, I'm pretty sure that's a parody of the people criticising Ronaldo.

[Untitled]

Who thinks ronaldo will last at Utd?

There rumours he wants to leave anyway, and i know a proper hardcore utd fan, he admited because he played for utd he never released what he was like, now he hates him, he also thinks the utd fans wont want him back and they will boo him off and stuff.

[Bad Blood]

He weants to go to Real Madrid.

[Lord Abortion]

Like I said, they can have him, but he's worth a good £25-30 million.

he'll get ripped to shreds by Premiership fans.

[Untitled]

Like I said, they can have him, but he's worth a good £25-30 million.

he'll get ripped to shreds by Premiership fans.
Literaly?

Argh, i hate the little sod, i always did and people moaned at me for going on about it when i see him play, but w/e, they all agree now.

[Bad Blood]

Rooney will get his own back, too.

He's always pissed me off.

[Britney Diva]

I'm still not sure what Ronaldo's done wrong, apart from doing what every Manchester United player does.

[Lord Abortion]

I'm still not sure what Ronaldo's done wrong, apart from doing what every Manchester United player does.
Oh come on, that's unfair.
United players get harshly criticised for diving, which is very unfair, we get a reputation for it which is undeserved.

When did you ever see someone like Paul Scholes Diving?
Or Giggs?

[Untitled]

Non english players as a whole dive, its the just how they play football.

cheating gits.

[Britney Diva]

Well I meant in relation to the crowding round the referee yesterday. I think Utd are one of the better teams regarding diving, and even Ronaldo has cleaned up his act the last couple of years. What I meant is Ronaldo's influencing the referee last night is exactly what Ferguson's team has mastered and it would kind of hypocritical to criticise him for it when it goes on every week at the club.

Non english players as a whole dive, its the just how they play football.
Michael Owen and Ashley Cole are persistent divers, but in general it's not something English players like to do.

I have a funny story regarding the different cultures regarding diving. When Ireland played Spain in the last world cup, we won two penalties. The first was won by Duff, he ran in to the box and basically dived to win a penalty by leaving a trailing leg in the defender's path. The second penalty was in the dying seconds, when Hierro practically pulled Quinn's shirt off his back, what we'd consider a clear foul.

The Spanish saw it differently though. They didn't contest the Duff decision at all because it's considered legitimate there, but Hierro's manhandling the forward was so commonplace to them they thought it was a terrible decision.

[Lord Abortion]

That's quite funny, and I get your point about the United situation, I don't see the card-waving thing going on though. However, I don't see many games, or any at all that aren't cup or champions league ones, because MOTD doesn't put every little incident on the highlights, and I don't have digital TV, so I could be missing it.

I always laugh when I see Ashley Cole doing it, he's a left back, why the hell should he be diving?
He shouldn't anyway, but still...

[Britney Diva]

I always laugh when Cole gets booked for diving because it's usually right outside his own box and he gives away an unnecessary goalscoring chance and can't risk tackling anyone for the rest of the night. Gallas is my favourite idiot diving full-back though. He takes the most blatant dives then picks a fight with some innocent bystander on the other team when it doesn't go his way.

[Untitled]

I wouldnt say owen dives as such, but i wouldnt say he dosnt go over easily.

Ive never noticed cole diving either, full backs that do are stupid, you should only dive in there half, if at all.

[Lord Abortion]

can't risk tackling anyone for the rest of the night.
Won't make much difference from his normal game then...

[Minus The Flair]

I hate Ronaldo for doing what he did, the headbutt, the hassling ref, and the wink, but theres still know denying his skill. He's got loads of talent, I remember that free kick he took for United, swerved about 4 different ways. Let's hope we get Carrick

[Bad Blood]

Ashley Cole's a good player : /

[Britney Diva]

Won't make much difference from his normal game then...
True that. He'll never lose his tenacious ability to turn his back on an attacker though.

I hate Ronaldo for doing what he did, the headbutt, the hassling ref, and the wink
And the hair gel. Not to mention the wink!

[Lord Abortion]

And his really, really gay earring.

[Timm]

And his really, really gay earring.
and he cries a lot

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[Minus The Flair]

and he dives a lot

[Britney Diva]

I heard, one time, he winked at his earring as he dived over Wayne Rooney.

[Minus The Flair]

Then cried when didn't get to kiss the balland got kicked in the nuts by Rooney

[Minus The Flair]

Gerrard's pissed. He said that that wink to the dugout from Ronaldo 'sums him up as a person'. Also, Beckham's out for at least six weeks. I thought that may be the case as he looked really upset when he got injured, as if to say that he wouldn't take part in any more of the WC. Now no English man can.

[Britney Diva]

Steven "the legbreaker" Gerrard said that? I mean I understand he must be more disappointed than anyone about going out, but I really can't believe nobody prominent has stood up and actually held Rooney accountable for stamping on a player. It's ridiculous.

[Minus The Flair]

http://home.skysports.com/worldcup/article.aspx?hlid=400137&CPID=4&clid=114&lid=4161&title=Gerrard+blasts+Ronaldo

[Minus The Flair]

When did Gerrard break someones leg?

[Britney Diva]

When did Gerrard break someones leg?
It's an expression, relating to such accidents as this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38623000/jpg/_38623863_gerrard150.jpg).