Euro 2008 (Official Man City LOL Thread)

[mr snrub]

I agree with the top 4 but i think it will finish

18 West Brom
19 Norwich
20 Crystal Palace (my second team)

I think west Brom have a chance and i definately can't see Portsmotuh going down, they score too many goals

Actually last year they didn't score that many, it is just that most of their wins at the end were 1-0. I don't think they have made good summer singings or do they have the composure you need to stay up. And Harry redknapp and the chairman are always arguing over wages and money, so it all adds up perfectly to mean that they will get relegated, just to finish off their crisises.

[Drop The Baby]

I'm not sure. Last year they got players in well like Lua Lua who scored goals in the season run in when it was most imporatnt. Plus they have the experience of a relegation battle behind them now

[dasalteleid]

If you twisted my arm, Oldham and Blackburn i support.

Man Utd need to get it right from game one, anything less than a win againt chelsea and they are fooked for the rest of the season.

[Drop The Baby]

they'll struggle at the start of the season becaus ethey'll have some key players out. Their top 3 in fact, ferdinand, Nistelrooy, Ronaldo. and then heinze, Brown, solksjaer and maybe a few others

[dasalteleid]

Solksjaer (sp???) is crap now anyway.

[davey]

I think we'll miss his influence just as much as his actual ability.

Did you hear the fans singing for him yesterday during the match. It was unbelievable, if i ever had any thing like that i would never want to let it go. I mean can you imagine like 60,000 people singing your name every week?
yeah and some people had a sign that said 'please stay patrick we love you!' when theres arsenal faithful like them why would he want to go anywhere else? it would be the wrong move for him anyway.

[Drop The Baby]

No-one has ever done well after leaving Arsenal in recent tumes. Look at the list: Overmars, Petit, Anelka, Suker etc

[Drop The Baby]

I used to respect him until that match where we drew 2-2 and he got Sol Capmbell sent off for trying to stop solksjaer from pulling on his shirt

[Drop The Baby]

There's quite a bit of news at the moment.

Lee Hughes who killed someone while drink driving has been jailed for 6 years

Owen's Liverpool talks have broken down after Barca and Real have shown interest in him

Newcastle have agreed a fee with Tottenham for Steve Carr

Aliadiere has another serious injury and is "out for months". We have no strikers at the moment with no Bentley, Kanu and Wiltord gone, and Jeffers set to sign for Charlton

[davey]

No-one has ever done well after leaving Arsenal in recent tumes. Look at the list: Overmars, Petit, Anelka, Suker etc
and what can real madrid offer him that arsenal can't? He would get 80,000 week when he gets about that at arsenal anyway. The rest of the real madrid 'galacticos' such as figo, beckham, zidane, ronaldo etc get 120,000 so vieira wouldnt be getting that much consisering he is better than them. Also look who is the better side out if the two, is it real madrid or arsenal (with vieira) i would definately say arsenal with vieira so hes got more chance of winning things at arsenal.

[dasalteleid]

Whats up with him?

[Drop The Baby]

It is tragic when something like that happens though. He was at Man u for so long it's been like 10 years which is really suprising.

this has been a good chat today. I'll be back on later to pick this up again:wave:

[dasalteleid]

The year they won everything was his peak. When hes better he should quit Utd and come and play for Oldham.

[mr snrub]

No-one has ever done well after leaving Arsenal in recent tumes. Look at the list: Overmars, Petit, Anelka, Suker etc

actually overmars was doing really well for Barcelona until his injury caused his retirement from the game. i agree with the others though.

[mr snrub]

I used to respect him until that match where we drew 2-2 and he got Sol Capmbell sent off for trying to stop solksjaer from pulling on his shirt

Yes I was at that match, and was appauled. Solksjaer is a good player though and was great in the 1999 season including a good substitues role in the Champions League final. He is personally my favourite Man Utd player because he is at time entertaining and he does show true passion to his football and commitment as he is always fighting for his place in the team. However now his days are up. He does have this injury and with all of Man Utd's current strikers (Van Nistelrooy, Saha, Smith etc) he will find it hard to get into the team.

[Drop The Baby]

He hasn't retired has he? He just played in Euro 2004, i know his contratc either ran out or was terminated though

[mr snrub]

overmars or solskjaer?

[Drop The Baby]

Overmars (used to be my favourite player by the way)

[mr snrub]

Yeah same with me! Yeah he has retired, saw it on the news a couple of weeks ago. Recurrence of a knee injury is the reason. Shame.

[Drop The Baby]

That's a real shame. It probably affected his game too much as he was all about the pace

[KappaKid17]

...World Cup 2 years away...I don't think I can wait that long.

[mr snrub]

Thats true... anyway, I'm off out now, so keep the chat up and I'll rejoin when I get back :thumb:

[dasalteleid]

Qualifying will last me

[Drop The Baby]

True. Maybe not Erikson though:p

[dasalteleid]

He'll last till the world cup...then he'll quit and replace arsene wenger or alex ferguson

[chumpradio]

Isn't Carlo Cudicini eligible to play for England this year?
Because he has never played for Italy or something, and has English citizenship now or something.
I read about it a bit ago.
That would be a great thing for England, he's a great keeper.
If we get a new manager, we should try to steal Bobby Robson from Newcastle, or get Claudio Ranieri.

[Drop The Baby]

Yeah he's available from the next summer i think

[mr snrub]

Yeah that is true. Kirkland is good, but unlucky with injuries. Also Paul Robinson should be good (Tottenham) and Robert Green is quite good aswell (Norwich). The problem is that we do have a problem finding a permanent good goalkeeper, now that Seaman has gone. Any of those could be the answer as James is almost gone.

[mr snrub]

True. I heard rumours that Sir Trevor Brooking was going to take the job?? What experience does he have?? This whole Sven thing I think is a joke. If it happened in France no-one would care about it, and the FA are just trying to get anything to sack him. Stupid. But I think that Steve McLaren will take the job after him (if he goes).

[davey]

...World Cup 2 years away...I don't think I can wait that long.
if its gonna be anything like euro 2004 i bloody well can!!!

[RNR]

iiitttt'ssss a goooooooooooooooooooooooal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wowowowowowowowowoowo

[mr snrub]

Ha ha. I honestly thought that we would win Euro 2004, I even lost a load of money (£30 to be precise) betting on them, which I did 24 hours before the Portugal match. It is all about luck. In Japan 2002, Germany got to the final with an easy run against teams like USA and Japan and teams that shouldn't be in the quaters and semi finals. Germany themselves didn't deserve to get there. If England can get the same luck then we have a chance, but we need to learn to play well together, because otherwise we haven't a hope in hell.

[mr snrub]

No, and they seem to be the players we are relying on. Beckham, Gerrard, Owen and Campbell were all players everyone said had to perform at Euro 2004, and only one did (Campbell) and you had others like Rooney and Lampard and Cole who were great with less pressure on at the start. If we can avoid assholes like the media putting pressure on our players we will do better, but the problem is that we can't stop it. If you have no pressure you will do better, that is a fact.

[mr snrub]

That is very very true.

[mr snrub]

But that is hard to stop - as long as we have Beckham who "everybody loves" everyone believes that we can win it, so the chances of that happening are nil. But most national teams believe that they are the greatest, because every national team has a right to. If you go into a tournament saying "Ok we suck, lets just get knocked out at the group stages and go home" or with a similar attitude, you have less of a chance than if you believe you do. I think that as long as you are positive you have a chance. If we change it so that the nation admitts that we are crap then the players won't think "Ok everyone believes in us, we can't let them down" which would be their current thoughts, they would think "Ok, no-one believes in us, whats the point?", because if you have no belief, you have no chance.

[KappaKid17]

Yeah, luck plays a part, but the Germans are very good at grinding out results. We, for whatever reason, just aren't. And we say we have a good young team, but the fact remains that we don't really. The likes of Neville, Campbell, Beckham, Lampard and James aren't exactly inexperienced youngsters.

But, the Germans have played very poorly internationally since after the 2002 World Cup. They're in a transitional stage right now. I'm a big fan of German soccer, so I definitely have the utmost faith that the Germans will be well prepared for World Cup 2006. Klinsmann has taken over the team, and'll hopefullly find some players that were as devoted and exceptional as he was when he played nationally.

[mr snrub]

Yes again, that is true, but you have got to set your-self targets. If you go into a tournament saying we shall take it as it comes, you have nothing to ride against. At least that way we knew what we could achieve, and when we failed against Portugal we understood more about our chances for Germany 2006, as we could compare the teams we lost against to other nations around the world, to set targets for the World Cup. Yes the Portugal was unlucky, and Campbell's goal was a deserved milestone for him and we were cruley denied whether it was a goal or not. But like you said with Rugby, anything can happen. We didn't expect to be 1-0 up against France in stoppage time, and we were punished for a good performance there aswell (thank you Gerrard for that back-pass and Heskey for that tackle). There were alot of positives aswell as negatives that came out of Portugal, and with these we can build on what can hopefully be a success in some way in Germany.

[mr snrub]

I don't think our football will improve for a while. Given our current dominance in rugby (well not dominance anymore, but we are world champions) and our 2nd in the world status for test cricket, I don't think we have the composure to equal these feets, and I know that I have spoken against negative feelings towards our national football, but I think that our current national pride is too high, and we will be punished for it through football.

[mr snrub]

With the olympics, we know that we have tough opposition, and the chances of us challenging USA or Australia are slim, but we have a chance if we are confident, which we are because at the moment there are no negative words exchanged between the media and the GB Team, which is good, but that will never happen with football.

[KappaKid17]

Yeah, they are undoubtedly in transition now. I think that people probably didn't realise that 2002 was very fortunate. Granted, they ground out the results, but they were not a good team. I think the main problem is probably the lack of a cutting edge. The defence and midfield look pretty solid to me (Ballack and Deisler are very good), but who is there to score the goals?

Honestly, no one, at least off the top of my head. German defense has always been an outstanding part of their game. The current midfield, like you said, should be solid as well. They need a good, young forward up top to develop, especially with the new wave of quality young players that are coming in.

[Drop The Baby]

Ha ha. I honestly thought that we would win Euro 2004, I even lost a load of money (£30 to be precise) betting on them, which I did 24 hours before the Portugal match. It is all about luck. In Japan 2002, Germany got to the final with an easy run against teams like USA and Japan and teams that shouldn't be in the quaters and semi finals. Germany themselves didn't deserve to get there. If England can get the same luck then we have a chance, but we need to learn to play well together, because otherwise we haven't a hope in hell.

I think we had the luck. I mean look at it, who was there to beat other than Portugal? We were unlucky in the sence that we had a goal disallowed but the draw was good for us

[mr snrub]

An example is the Sven situation. The Media have ruined morale in the FA and in the team by making all this extra stuff up about Sven, and as a result we are probably going to loose a great manager, probably the greatest since Sir Alf because Sven has offered alot to England and the media have taken against him sadly, and caused an upset in the national footballing society.

[Drop The Baby]

Yeah, they are undoubtedly in transition now. I think that people probably didn't realise that 2002 was very fortunate. Granted, they ground out the results, but they were not a good team. I think the main problem is probably the lack of a cutting edge. The defence and midfield look pretty solid to me (Ballack and Deisler are very good), but who is there to score the goals?

Not Deisler man, he's having mental problems at the moment. That's why he didn't play in euro 04.

The young guy who's name i've forgotten looked good though

[Drop The Baby]

The idea with appointing Sven was that he'd have a young english number two who would be groomed to take the position when he quits. But that is something else that hasn't happened. The footabbling authorities, especially Fifa and the FA are a joke at the moment

[mr snrub]

I think we had the luck. I mean look at it, who was there to beat other than Portugal? We were unlucky in the sence that we had a goal disallowed but the draw was good for us

Against France we had luck for 89 minutes - resisting the amazing French frontline and then that luck ran out. Against switzerland and croatia, we didn't really need the luck because we were never in danger against either or them (despite going a goal down against croatia). Against Portugal, we were truly punished. Loosing Rooney, the "star of the tournament" for some, was a blow because he was useful, and vassell although he is good, isn't that good really. Campbell dis-allowed goal, and then the dodgey penalty spot which messed the penalties up completely. Also a rubbish ref didn't prove we had that much luck either..

[Drop The Baby]

What do you mean by mental problems? Serious, or like short-term issues ?

i think they're pretty serious. I can't remember the details. I don't think it's like he's turning into a vegetable (for want of a better phrase) but it's issues in his life in general. He didn't play much football last season, i think he basically just signed for Bayern and then went to a mental hospital whcih is sad

[mr snrub]

The idea with appointing Sven was that he'd have a young english number two who would be groomed to take the position when he quits. But that is something else that hasn't happened. The footabbling authorities, especially Fifa and the FA are a joke at the moment

Agreed. I heard some really stupid FIFA suggestion earlier this year, something like 4 quaters in a match or something stupid. They need to be controlled because football is loosing it. Also they have taken away the Golden Goal rule, which was much more exciting than silver goal.

[Drop The Baby]

Against France we had luck for 89 minutes - resisting the amazing French frontline and then that luck ran out. Against switzerland and croatia, we didn't really need the luck because we were never in danger against either or them (despite going a goal down against croatia). Against Portugal, we were truly punished. Loosing Rooney, the "star of the tournament" for some, was a blow because he was useful, and vassell although he is good, isn't that good really. Campbell dis-allowed goal, and then the dodgey penalty spot which messed the penalties up completely. Also a rubbish ref didn't prove we had that much luck either..

the ref was biased but the penalty spot was the same for both of us and we cost ourselves the match by playing negative footbll after taking the lead. We should have learnt our lesson from the France game that you concede goals when you sit too deep.

[KappaKid17]

Actually, now that I think of it, Klose's a top-tier forward the Germans have, but only him.

I remember Kahn whining on how there is a lack of German club players on the national team. Here's the lineup that played in Euro 2004:

Timo Hildebrand Stuttgart
Oliver Kahn Bayern Munich
Jens Lehmann Arsenal (ENG)

Frank Baumann Werder Bremen
Arne Friedrich Hertha Berlin
Andreas Hinkel Stuttgart
Philipp Lahm Stuttgart
Jens Nowotny Leverkusen
Christian Wörns Dortmund
Christian Ziege Tottenham (ENG)

Michael Ballack Bayern Munich
Fabian Ernst Werder Bremen
Torsten Frings Dortmund
Dietmar Hamann Liverpool (ENG)
Jens Jeremies Bayern Munich
Sebastian Kehl Dortmund
Bernd Schneider Leverkusen
Bastian Schweinsteiger Bayern Munich

Fredi Bobic Hertha Berlin
Thomas Brdaric Hannover
Miroslav Klose Kaiserslautern
Kevin Kuranyi Stuttgart
Lukas Podolski Cologne

TWO players don't play German club soccer. It's rediculous for Kahn to whine about that.

[Drop The Baby]

That is really sad actually. I've only seen him play live once (that 5-1 win) but on TV he's always looked pretty useful.


:eek: You were there?

[Drop The Baby]

Sweinsteiger was the guy, he looked very good in a poor German team

[Drop The Baby]

Agreed. I heard some really stupid FIFA suggestion earlier this year, something like 4 quaters in a match or something stupid. They need to be controlled because football is loosing it. Also they have taken away the Golden Goal rule, which was much more exciting than silver goal.

the golden goal rule has come back, they got rid of the silver goal rule after euro 04

[Drop The Baby]

Haha:lol:

I find it unbelievable that Kahn managed to kepp his place in the team for the Euros. He had an awful season, he made 3 of 4 big big errors and even if i wasn't an arsenal fan i would agree that Lehmann deserves his chance now

[mr snrub]

the ref was biased but the penalty spot was the same for both of us and we cost ourselves the match by playing negative footbll after taking the lead. We should have learnt our lesson from the France game that you concede goals when you sit too deep.

yes, true, i shall give you that. we should of learnt not to play so deep, but also sven made some shocking subs. VS France: Heskey, came on for Rooney and gave away freekick leading to equaliser. VS Portugal: Phil Neville and Hardgreaves shouldn't be playing and although there was no choice, I don't respect the Vassell decision. There are so many better English forwards than him (beattie, phillips etc). Portugal made good subs, Postiga equalised and Rui Costa scored their first in extra time. bechams penalty spot miss was a wake up call to portugal. they would of probably been unaware (like beckham was) that there was a problem.

[mr snrub]

the golden goal rule has come back, they got rid of the silver goal rule after euro 04

Are you sure?? I am pretty sure that they said it was gone for good now? :confused:

[Drop The Baby]

yes, true, i shall give you that. we should of learnt not to play so deep, but also sven made some shocking subs. VS France: Heskey, came on for Rooney and gave away freekick leading to equaliser. VS Portugal: Phil Neville and Hardgreaves shouldn't be playing and although there was no choice, I don't respect the Vassell decision. There are so many better English forwards than him (beattie, phillips etc). Portugal made good subs, Postiga equalised and Rui Costa scored their first in extra time. bechams penalty spot miss was a wake up call to portugal. they would of probably been unaware (like beckham was) that there was a problem.


Phil Neville never should have gone. We had Bridge as cover for left back meaning that he was covering a mid field position and Parker was the bettre bet any day. Sven was awful tactically

And yeah i'm pretty sure golden goal is back. You know what Fifa are like :rolleyes:

[mr snrub]

Ha ha yeah. I think if Butt didn't get injured and have to go home, he would be the best defensive midfielder for us. But then againm luck against us with injuries. Rooney aswell.

[Drop The Baby]

I think Butt should have definately gone, and he would've started the France match had he been fit. Hargreaves and Dyer were just place fillers and Sven had no plans to really use them

I gotta go out now fellas. I'll pick this up whenever i'm on next :wave:

[mr snrub]

Good point again. Sven hardly used a full squad, so he was very relient on his 1-11, his favourite 11, as they started most of the matches (or the two key matches france and portugal). I don't agree with the tactical decisions of sven at all in his squad selections, substitutions and tactics during matches.

[mr snrub]

But Butt (pun again) has experience and you don't want some kid running around trying to catch zidane and henry breaking through. Jenas wouldn't stand a chance!

[mr snrub]

Although I do rate jenas though, a good player for the future.

[mr snrub]

There is a huge difference between Forest and Charlton pressure and England pressure. A costly mistake at Forest and you may loose 3 points. A costly mistake for England could result in exit of World Cup, meaning another 4 years to wait for another go. I would stick with an experienced member over a promising member.

[mr snrub]

Yeah, yes give them chances in friendlies i agree with, but if you are unsure in a big situation, i would choose experience and the ability to hold out any pressure (butt) over promise and the ability to hold out small pressure (jenas).

[mr snrub]

It does seem that Parker is a good solution, and yes Butt probably should give it up. There is also Kieran Dyer and Owen Hardgreaves who will be good after experience. It is all about giving them the chance to prove. But at the moment the FA are too busy worrying about Sven to care about the fact that they have just lost one of their main midfielders, so it may be a while before they realise.

[mr snrub]

Yeah, dont' forget that Palios did aswell. That is far more important than Scholes retiring... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[mr snrub]

Stupid FA...

[monkeys_something_something]

in football you have to score because otherwise you wont win - fact

[mr snrub]

Congratulations Mr Obvious.

[mr snrub]

Actually not necessarily. If the oppisition score an own goal and it stays like that, you win 1-0 without scoring.

[monkeys_something_something]

i get jokes

[mr snrub]

Not a joke asshole, it is a fact. Stop saying that, you are very immature. No wonder you get banned all the time.

[monkeys_something_something]

Not a joke asshole, it is a fact. Stop saying that, you are very immature. No wonder you get banned all the time.


would you like cheese with that?

[mr snrub]

No, you just asked me that in a different thread.

[monkeys_something_something]

Not a cheese person?

[mr snrub]

I am, but not now. Thanks for the offer though.

[monkeys_something_something]

suicide is funny until someone loses an eye

[mr snrub]

wrong thread. and suicide results in loosing life, not just an eye.

[monkeys_something_something]

christmas is the season to be jolly...true story

[mr snrub]

not always...how can you be joly if you are from a 3rd world country??

[monkeys_something_something]

it's all relative

[mr snrub]

of course. monkey i a leaving now, so be a good monkey and stop spaming all the threads. thanks.

[monkeys_something_something]

that's a tall order

[mr snrub]

well meet it anyway.

[monkeys_something_something]

mmmmm...no

[clearvision]

Did anyone watch watford tonight? I thought we played well but shouldnt have won by the margin we did. The officials made some poor descisons as usual. Did anyone watch the game? Opinons?

!!!WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE!!!!

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Anybody watch the Charity Shield match, Arsenal vs Man Utd?

3-1! To The Arsenal!

[davey]

Q. Whats worse than letting micheal jackson lokk after your kids?
A. Letting lee hughes drive them to school

[davey]

Anybody watch the Charity Shield match, Arsenal vs Man Utd?

3-1! To The Arsenal!
damm straight :thumb:

[chumpradio]

Anybody watch the Charity Shield match, Arsenal vs Man Utd?

3-1! To The Arsenal!

Don't think its too much of an achievement.
They had their reserves playing pretty much, except for a few players.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Ashley Cole, wot a stunning goal, lol

[KappaKid17]

Anyone see Ballack's goal v. Hamburg?

[davey]

Don't think its too much of an achievement.
They had their reserves playing pretty much, except for a few players.
still nice to win something though and it will give them a boost of confidence for the new season.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Yeah, the Gunners sort of need it. Does anybody think that Patrick Vieira will go to Real Madrid?

[mr snrub]

Yeah, the Gunners sort of need it. Does anybody think that Patrick Vieira will go to Real Madrid?

Depends on whether madrid are willing to pay arsenal's asking price.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I think Arsenal want a minimum of £28m but Madrid will only offer £24m max. Wenger said Vieira can go if he really wants.

[brycey]

Pfft. All Rangers could manage was 0-0 against Aberdeen. ABERDEEN. :upset:

Livingston are top. :)

[chumpradio]

How are Celtic doing so far this season?

[mr snrub]

Arsenal want 30million min but wenger will go all soft as he did with the overmars/petit transfer to barcelona, and end up loosing out on about 10 million roughly by selling him cheaply and stupidly.

[mr snrub]

Shame because he is worth much more. Wenger sold both Overmars and Petit for 30 million for both, when it should of been more. Overmars was tagged at 25 million at the time and Petit was tagged at 15million.

[mr snrub]

just thought you would all be interested to know that little fact.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Well, if Vieira does go, who the hell can replace him?? The only player I can think of is Maniche of Portugal. What do you think?

[mr snrub]

No one can replace him. He is the captain for a start, and one of the most influencal players in the game at the moment. Maniche has been linked with a move to Arsenal, as has Rubens Baraja, but I think arsenal will wait until we find out whether or not he definetly leaves, because when arsenal lost ian wright, they signed anelka to replace him, but wright at the end stayed for another season, so it was a wasted transfer. I think thats the story anyway, but something like that happened, and a player was bought when he wasn't needed.

[ToyDolls]

Hello,
After the Great Euro 2004 Thread this one is to discuss all things Football, Upcoming Tournements, Leauges etc.................................. It proberly won't get to 109 pages like the Euro 2004 one but we can try.







:thumb:

Hey this was misleading.

[chumpradio]

This is interesting...in addition to their plans to buy Viera, Real Madrid have also restarted their interest in Michael Owen, as contract talks with Liverpool seem to have broken down, meaning that he would be able to leave on a free next summer and could sign a pre-contract agreement on January 1! Liverpool might not even play him in Wednesday's Champion's League qualifier to avoid cup-tying him (this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3927983.stm) article from the BBC)

I think that would ruin his career if he left to Real Madrid.
If he went to another English club it would be alright, but at Real he wouldn't be played all the time and, like David Beckham, would probably start playing worse for England.

[InMyPlace]

Hey this was misleading.


???????

[AfroMan]

:upset: :upset: :upset:

This season sucks already

[dasalteleid]

Iv actually heard that Owen has been linked to Barcalona. Which would be a far more interestin prospect for him.

[AfroMan]

2 points behind Celtic already :lol:. And something's wrong with Chris Burke now isn't it?

:angry:

Burke is in quarintine in Russia just now :upset:

[AfroMan]

Any reason for Russia? :confused:

:lol:

My Dad told me this morning and I was like................."Russia WTF?"

The whole Rangers team are in Russia just now preparing for their Champions league match.

[brycey]

Burke was dehydrated (in Aberdeen of all places), and that's why he was taken off apparently.

We're getting humped.

[dasalteleid]

Poor sods....russia is a ****hole!

[AfroMan]

Oh right, that makes sense. Still...at least you don't have nearly a whole team injured :angry:

At the Aberdeen game Prso, Lovenkrands and Burke all picked up injuries.

Who is it you support again Medo?

[brycey]

All the Greenock Morton fans on MX rejoice!

...:upset:

[dasalteleid]

Wheres that?

[dasalteleid]

lol. Medopalis, do you actually live in Manchester? or are you one of the gazillion Man Utd fans that dont?

[dasalteleid]

Hahaha, dont worry i aint having a go. I just think its curious that 70% of all Man Utd fans live nowhere near manchester.

[dasalteleid]

Yeah the mancunians are right nutters after a match like that.

[Drop The Baby]

The situation with Owen was that as the talks seemed to be breaking down, Madrid and Barca showed an interest and as there is only 1 yaer left on his contract, they'll sell him to get money, and therefore are unlikely to play him in the cup as he'll be cup-tied and unable to play for his new team. There is speculation that the fee will be £10million, but if the deal is with Real Morientes could move in the other direction. I'd find that suprising seeing as Morientes is better than Owen anyway

[dasalteleid]

Yeah but Owen is only about 23 isnt he? Prehaps they are looking to the future

[Drop The Baby]

24 but he's not the player he used to be and is very injury prone. And they already have some excellent youth strikers, and Owen is not likely to oust Ronaldo or Raul from the team

[dasalteleid]

Real Madrid are just a spanish Chelsea. Just because you have 11 quality players, doesnt mean you have a team (take a look at Madrids season last year!)

[Drop The Baby]

they were the original Chelsea!! They have to qualify for the champions league you know

[dasalteleid]

Money money money - the three things that top league foot ball are about

[mr snrub]

It is important though, a football club cannot survive with no money, so you must use it and loose it wisely.

[dasalteleid]

Agreed, but throwing riduculous amounts of money at players and for players is just ridiculous.

[mr snrub]

It is. But you have two types of players, 1. players who play for football, and are slightly less paid than they should be (Shearer, Henry etc). 2. players who play for money and will upset their own fans by moving to a rival club if it means getting twice the salary (Figo, Buffon etc). Any player from category one will do what ever it takes for first team football and even if they are getting paid say 70,000 a week, if they don't get first team stuff they will leave (Heskey from Liverpool to Birmingham, Barmby from man city i think, to Hull), but there are players who change club for money not caring about first team football like Figo from Barca to Madrid and Buffon from Parma to Juventus just to get about a 30% raise. Also Sol Campbell you would think would fit in to that going from Spurs to Arsenal, but he had a lot of other choices like Juve, Barcelona and Milan but wanted to stay in England, so that wasn't about money.

[mr snrub]

Yeah, in the Euro 2004 final when that guy ran on to the pitch and chucked a Barcelona flag at him, then ran straight in to the net, that was funny.

[dasalteleid]

The final was dire. The best match were the England matches and the Greece wins against France and in the semi

[mr snrub]

Way, 1000 posts in this thread!

[mr snrub]

Yeah it was. But it was how Greece played throughout the tournament, wait and take advantage of Portugal's, or who ever they were playing, wasted chances and make them pay for it.

[mr snrub]

And it worked, against France, Czech and Portugal, so I cannot argue with those tactics. Their defence was excellent.

[dasalteleid]

They wont win the World Cup though....

[mr snrub]

Yeah of course they won't, but they will be interesting to follow during it.

[dasalteleid]

Even more interesting, will be which team will beat them first.

[monkeys_get_banned]

footballers play on grass because water would require specialist stadiums

[mr snrub]

Yeah! I think they've got a chance of getting to the quaters, but can't really see them progressing too far.

[mr snrub]

footballers play on grass because water would require specialist stadiums

Monkey go die in the corner, and no its not a joke and no i would not like cheese with that or anything else.

[dasalteleid]

^^^seconded

Quarters yeah. But it all depends on the group stages.

[monkeys_get_banned]

Monkey go die in the corner, and no its not a joke and no i would not like cheese with that or anything else.


egg nog is for santa

[upthebracket]

Any predictions for the Rangers game tonight??

I think they'll struggle, probably lose 1-0 in the end or something... as a Celtic fan, part of me wants to see them go through so we can see them get gubbed proper by the big guns :D

[dasalteleid]

Dinamo Bucherest? Errm, 0-0 or they'll lose 2-0 or 1-0. Both goals in second half.

[dasalteleid]

Now they have two quality defensive midfielders? What the hell are they supposed to attack with?

[dasalteleid]

yeah but i think you need a specialised attcking midfielder. That way you have the two wingers, a central holding figure and then your 2 strikers,

[dasalteleid]

Well viera was a defensive, so i guess that gave t'other one room to push forward.

[Drop The Baby]

Vieira is much better when he has moe freedom and is able to play more as a box to box player.

I have doubts that Greece will qualify for the world cup at all to be honest

[dasalteleid]

Can we grab their qualifying fixtures from anywhere? or have they not been drawn yet?

[Drop The Baby]

Yeah they should be up. try fifa.com or something like that

[dasalteleid]

Well doesnt it all start in about 3 months or something like that?

[Drop The Baby]

2 i think. not long at all

[dasalteleid]

Meh, all i found was a schedule for the actual world cup itself :angry:

[Drop The Baby]

I'd just look on google. the fixtures have all been done. Or try something like worldcup06.com etc

[dasalteleid]

Greece Qualifying:

Group 2
Turkey
Denmark
Greece
Ukraine
Georgia
Albania
Kazakhstan

4- 9-04 Albania - Greece
8- 9-04 Greece - Turkey
9-10-04 Ukraine - Greece
17-11-04 Greece - Kazakhstan
9- 2-05 Greece - Denmark
26- 3-05 Georgia - Greece
30- 3-05 Greece - Albania
4- 6-05 Turkey - Greece
8- 6-05 Greece - Ukraine
7- 9-05 Kazakhstan - Greece
8-10-05 Denmark - Greece
12-10-05 Greece - Georgia



England Qualifying:

Group 6
England
Poland
Austria
Wales
Northern Ireland
Azerbaijan

4- 9-04 Austria - England
8- 9-04 Poland - England
9-10-04 England - Wales
13-10-04 Azerbaijan - England
26- 3-05 England - Northern Ireland
30- 3-05 England - Azerbaijan
3- 9-05 Wales - England
7- 9-05 Northern Ireland - England
8-10-05 England - Austria
12-10-05 England - Poland

[monkey_on_stilts]

we start with the neck and add secret hobo spices

[RNR]

itttttttttt'sssss a gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooal!!!!!!!!!! :D

football>non football. Ya dig?

[dasalteleid]

Greece have definatly qualified looking at that, Denmark and Turkey are the only ones that will feasibly give them a problem if they play like they did in the Euros

[monkey_on_stilts]

we start with the neck and add secret hobo spices

123

[AfroMan]

:angry:

So far.............................CSKA 1 Rangers 0

:upset:

[dasalteleid]

I told you!

[AfroMan]

I told you!

:confused:

[dasalteleid]

I predicted the score in an earlier post :)

[Drop The Baby]

greece will never qualify! Turkey, Denmark and Ukraine will probably all finish above them

[AfroMan]

Novo shoots...............He Scores!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:chug:

[dasalteleid]

1-1 afroman???

Ukraine? Never, nor have Denmark got the attack to break donw the greecian defence if they play like they did in the Euro.

[ToyDolls]

???????


I thought it was. (American) football.

[Drop The Baby]

There is in american football thread around somewhere, probably on the second page.

It's not all about defending, Liverpool have been playing defensive football for years but it was their attackers that won them the trophys, mainly becuase of Owen.

By the way, Ukraine have Shevchenko and Rebrov (who is way better for them than he was for Tottenham), and Denmark have Sand, Tomasson, Jensen etc

[dasalteleid]

Shevchenko and Rebrov - what about the other 9?

Denmark are a strong side admittedly. But i still think that Greece have the chance to go through easily

[AfroMan]

:upset:

CSKA 2 - Rangers 1

[dasalteleid]

oh dear....

[Drop The Baby]

Shevchenko and Rebrov - what about the other 9?

Denmark are a strong side admittedly. But i still think that Greece have the chance to go through easily

you said their attack was not strong enough to score goals so i just listed their strikers.

Turkey will defiantely top the group in my opinion. Denmark, Ukraine and Greece will fight out the playoff spot but i think denmark will get it

[dasalteleid]

Thats that group prediction. What about england??

Hardly a challenge really? Wales and Scotland the biggest threat.

[Drop The Baby]

england to top the group followed by wales. I tdoesn't get much easier than this

[dasalteleid]

Yeah thats pretty much hows its gonna go. If England sort out their left side (David Thompson from Celtic!!!)

[dasalteleid]

Cheers i thought i was wrong about the first name.

[Drop The Baby]

Haha yeah. he's got to try Bridge and Cole up the left flank together again

[dasalteleid]

Nooo, they arent left sided players.

[monkey_on_stilts]

fat people don't play professional football because they stretch the kits

[dasalteleid]

Hmm....iv played rugby for ten years thats my excuse.

[Drop The Baby]

i love rugby union. League is good also but i love the hard tackling etc of the union game

[dasalteleid]

hard tackling? they are too eager to go to ground. Whereas in league you have to get as far as you can. Ergo the tackling is harder in league. But the rucks in union are pretty effing violent.

[camelfarmer]

Rucks aint football. Get your own thread.

[dasalteleid]

RLFC = Rugby League FOOTBALL club :cool:

[Drop The Baby]

I ain't seen you post in here before so i'm sure you care.

I'm pretty sure Owen will go to Liverpool which means they will need another striker as well as a midfielder as they'll have lost Owen and Heskey and only brought in cisse

What i mean is i prefer the one-on-one hard tackling of union as opposed to ganging up in league

[dasalteleid]

Do you mean owen will leave liverpool? They have gerard and kewell, pretty good midfield if you ask me.

[troops_of_doom]

****ing Yeah's Wrexham 2-0 up at Oldham :D

Also Leeds are 2-0 down at Gillingham :lol:

[troops_of_doom]

****ing Yeah's Wrexham 2-0 up at Oldham :D

Also Leeds are 2-0 down at Gillingham :lol:

Wrexham now 3-0 up, Hector Sam Hat trick. :D

[Nightbreak]

*takes moment to advertise Fantasy Football League*

www.freefantasyfootball.tv
League name: Erdit Kidda Killer Crew
Pass: RHCP

anyone that posts in this thread should join.

My town's team (Boston United) are 1-0 up at Grimsby. Come on boys!

[troops_of_doom]

Oh bollocks 3-2 now shitting ones self. :eek:

[troops_of_doom]

*takes moment to advertise Fantasy Football League*

www.freefantasyfootball.tv
League name: Erdit Kidda Killer Crew
Pass: RHCP

anyone that posts in this thread should join.

My town's team (Boston United) are 1-0 up at Oxford. Come on boys!

Already have. My fantasy sides called Clwb Pel Droed Wrecsam.

[Nightbreak]

Bugger, Boston 1-1

[Nightbreak]

Already have. My fantasy sides called Clwb Pel Droed Wrecsam.
Others may not have. I'm just trying to get it big, so we have more competition for my side

[Nightbreak]

Boston drew 1-1 in the end. Hope Gazza plays on Saturday.

[Nightbreak]

He controlled the game against Newcastle. We've got Pineapple Head too. It's great.

[troops_of_doom]

He controlled the game against Newcastle. We've got Pineapple Head too. It's great.

Jason Lee?

[mr snrub]

Just got back from Cambridge United vs Leyton Orient. Sucked balls alot. Cambridge were awful, and we didn't deserve the 1-1 draw. Thought you would all like to know this. 'Keeper Ruddy was all that kept us in it.

[mr snrub]

Yeah, it was a point which is great but we didn't deserve it. This year, well we should stay up but I doubt we will push for promotion, although we have got a new manager, so not sure, but also alot of new players, so we shall see really. I predict mid-table.

[mr snrub]

Yeah, I guess. I am actually not sure about our managers tactics, he is a strange man. But I will hold my head high and follow the U's no matter what. Incase you are wondering, they are my local team, I don't travel miles to watch them.

[chumpradio]

They stole Tomas Radzinski from us :upset:
He was my favourite Everton player :angry:.

[my5thname]

It first i thought it was about american football, which in that case i would ve gone off about how much is sux A§§, but since it's english football, i have nothing bad to say

[mister_riz]

I'm supporting Arsenal as well.
I support Everton, but Arsenal are my secondary team who I support that have a chance to win stuff

Haha... nerd.

Yeah, I think he's on his way out now. But if Liverpool get Morientes or Eto'o plus 10million, then that's quite a good deal I think.

Damn right, Owen is gash.

[dasalteleid]

Oldhams final score anyone?

[troops_of_doom]

Wrexham 3 Oldham 2 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/3942325.stm)

:D Hector Sam, Sam, Sam

[mr snrub]

Dammit, Vieira is likely to go tomorrow for 23.8 million.

[Nightbreak]

Jason Lee?
Yep.

"He's got a pine-apple, on his head"
^To be sung to the tune of the hymn "He's got the whole world in his hands".

[chumpradio]

Dammit, Vieira is likely to go tomorrow for 23.8 million.

Arsenal are bad at selling players
They could get an extra £5m.
The same happened with Marc Overmars and Emanuelle Petit.

[dasalteleid]

:D Hector Sam, Sam, Sam

Noooooooo.....Oldham loast AGAIN. See y'all in Div2 next season!

[dasalteleid]

Thats what i mean, they are already in Div1, so i will see y'all in div2 next deason.

[BaddiWadd]

How about Juventus - Djurgården 2-2 (in the champions leage qualification)

[dasalteleid]

"Italians are the most football made people in europe" as far as local teams go, yes they are. But did you soo the Euros? There was an england flag at every single one!

[dasalteleid]

Wheres as we just accuse our national team coach of being a womaniser. And our FA collapses from the inside....gods bless ENGLAND! :chug:

[BaddiWadd]

I saw that...very surprising. Djurgaden have had some good players in the past, but if Juventus go out, then that will be a disaster. I doubt they will do though. The Italians are probably the most football mad people in Europe, so I'll almost feel sorry for Juve if they go out.

I hope theyll go out (Im Swedish dont blame me)

But I dont think they will go out, thier team is strong enough

[dasalteleid]

Least of the fans, i think the fa will find that we were more pissed off at the fact that it was handled the way it was and was blown out of proportion. So what if a unmarried man has sex with someone? It wasnt exactly on the FA boardroom table was it!

[dasalteleid]

Liverpool are there this season, as are chelsea and arsenal. I think you need to beat them first then you may have a chance.

[dasalteleid]

Or a total unknown can come out of nowhere and win it, ie Porto

[Nightbreak]

There's an advert in the local rag to be a steward at Boston United games. Get in for free, and be payed to watch the games. Could it be any better? *Applies*

[dasalteleid]

Where is boston? (Please dont post back saying, "Its in america arf arf")

[Drop The Baby]

Barca have made a bid 0f around £17million for Eto'o but they are apparently putting lots of obstacles in his way. Perhapse waiting for Owen......

vieira's agent is in talks with Real at the moment according to reports

[dasalteleid]

hmm...owens on his way out, it could either be the best or the worst move in his life.

[Nightbreak]

Where is boston? (Please dont post back saying, "Its in america arf arf")
We're over near Skegness. Under Skeggy and Lincoln, above Peterborough. Right on The Wash. The Yankee Boston is named after ours, as the Pilgrims bought the "Mayflower" here.

[dasalteleid]

nice...we should charge them copyright

[Nightbreak]

Yeah, and for York (New York), and England (New England).

[troops_of_doom]

Yeah, and for York (New York), and England (New England).

Plus theres a Birmingham in Alabama. In fact name a place in Britain and you'll probobly find one in America, Canada, Australia or New Zealand.

[Nightbreak]

Lincolnshire?

[troops_of_doom]

Lincolnshire?

http://www.uk.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn/twn-map_results&event=find_search&country=US&address=&city=lincoln&state=&zip=&dir.x=37&dir.y=9

[mr snrub]

Thank God. We just about won the first leg of our qualifier (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/3551388.stm). Now for Chelsea on Sunday :upset:


Yeah, that could of been embarrasing for you. Glad to see Shelbourne are causing Deportivo some trouble. Any Shewsbury Town fans here by the way??

[mr snrub]

anyone know anything about Owen's "move" to Madrid?? personally i am unsure.

[mr snrub]

anyone.....??

[mr snrub]

do you think it will go through?

[dasalteleid]

yes. Liverpool hevent got the proper feed for owen from the midfield. IF (and its a big IF) he plays constantly for Real (whice i doubt) he should have a very good feed from the midfield, which will enable him to score goals and develop as a striker. but, is it the best for him?

[mr snrub]

I don't think Madrid is best for him, because I don't think he is good enough for them, plus they have Raul and Morientes who are class. Maybe Barcelona is a better option, or Athletico Madrid, or even Inter Milan or Juventus, but not Madrid in my opinion. He won't get a game.

[Drop The Baby]

don't forget Ronaldo as well. It looks like going through with the £8million and player exchange

[dasalteleid]

Real is totally the wrong move. Barca would be better, he (like beckham) just isnt needed and it will ruin their football.

[mister_riz]

Vieira is staying! Excellent!

[dasalteleid]

aww poo....that means arsenel will win the championship, the champs leage, the super cup , the fa cup and the charity shield......i think not.

[monkeys|on|mars]

If you don't like Arsenal you're racist because they have black players

[Drop The Baby]

Vieira is staying! Excellent!

F*** yeah. And Owen is off :cool:

[mr snrub]

Vieira is staying! Excellent!


YEAH! I can't understand why Madrid want Owen over Vieira though... but anyway i won't complain. :thumb:

[mr snrub]

If you don't like Arsenal you're racist because they have black players

Every team has black players. I don't think I can think of one that doesn't.

[Drop The Baby]

They definately wanted Vieira over Owen, look how long that sga has been going on for. But Arsenal were rightly determined to get value for money for him and apparantly they couldn't agree personal terms either

[mr snrub]

Yeah. But Owen won't fit in at madrid with Raul, Morientes, Ronaldo etc. He would of done much better going to barcelona or someone where he will get a game.

[Drop The Baby]

I know but if he can make a success of it.........

I agree with you though and i don't know why Real wanted him

[InsaneMits]

rodney king

[AfroMan]

This season sucks already:upset:

:angry:

[mr snrub]

His form hasn't been good at all in the past year or two. And it's not like he was amazing in Portugal for England either.

[mr snrub]

This season sucks already:upset:

:angry:

Why's that?

[Drop The Baby]

Was it aberdeen you said you supported Afroman?

[InsaneMits]

Ron Jeramy

[Nightbreak]

Ron Jeramy
That man is a legend. He whips it out in the street and girls walk over to suck him off.

[InsaneMits]

fair play to him
He has nothing to do with football I just thought Id make this a pornstar thread

[InsaneMits]

Also Vic Rattlehead rocks

[veggie 3.14]

I don't really follow football. Just thought i'd say that.