Euro 2008 (Official Man City LOL Thread)

[MILF Hunter]

Chelsea
Arsenal
Man Utd
Boro
Liverpool
Newcastle
Everton

[Grondahl]

Chelsea
Man U
Arsenal
Liverpool
Newcastle
Boro
Tottenham

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

I dont rate Man Utd's squad at the moment I didnt think many people did really but I must have been wrong. Their strike force is strong but the defence is a shambles and Rio is way overrated IMO.

[Lord Abortion]

I dont rate Man Utd's squad at the moment I didnt think many people did really but I must have been wrong. Their strike force is strong but the defence is a shambles and Rio is way overrated IMO.
the defence is strong, but I agree about rio
the strikeforce is excellent
and the midfield is slightly weaker but still contains some of the best in the premiership and in europe...

where did it go wrong??

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

Alex ferguson is quite obviously a great manager but I think a change of manager would refresh them and maybe give them a new lease of life they seemedover the last few seasons just to be going through the motions even in Europe etc.

[Lord Abortion]

we'll see what happens, van der sar seems to have solved goalkeeper problems, not like that utter twat roy carroll, his showing in the cup final shootout was appalling, he just fell over instead of diving for penalties, VDS saved 3 pens last year...

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

Van der Saar is a solid keeper yeah bit old though. Cech however :p

[Grondahl]

United's recent problems seem to me to be more to do with lack of squad depth more than anything. Unlike Chelsea, who have quality replacements in every area (Cudicini on the bench!), when one of United's big players get injured (Van Nistlerooy, Ferdinand, Keane), they just don't seem to have the players capable enough to replace them on a consistent basis. The likes of Phil Neville and Quinton Fortune, whilst being decent players, aren't quite the quality that a team like United needs if they're going to continue to compete on the European stage. Or even against Chelsea.

[Lord Abortion]

yes, and the squad players bought are failures

miller, djemba djemba, kleberson, etc.etc.

a team where quinton fortune plays alot of games is never going to win the title,
I think that the board just won't release that kind of funds though

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

Good point really if two defenders or midfielders were to get injured at once they'd be pushed to replace them with players who will have even close to the same effect. They would need about 5 strikers to be injured before they couldn't find a replacement though.

[metal-militia]

Yep, which is why I was hoping a lot of people from MX joined. I'd let somebody else run the league, I'm a newb and don't wanna seem obnoxious.

Would anybody be interested?


What do you have to do to run the league?

Are we going to set up a league.... is there a minimum amount of people that we need or something?

[red barchetta]

Yep, which is why I was hoping a lot of people from MX joined. I'd let somebody else run the league, I'm a newb and don't wanna seem obnoxious.

Would anybody be interested?
i`ve been interested in this ever since the football thread was made. i`ve signed up for next season, so someone should organize a league.

my team:

Van Der Sar

Toure
Upson
Terry

Routledge
Musampa
Gerrard
Downing

Rooney
Forssell
Mido

Subs:

Carroll (GK)
Purse (DEF)
Knight (DEF)
Mendes (MID)

[markface]

Alright I made a MX fantasy football league, the code to enter it is 67491-34774

Let me know if any of you have got any problems joining

[markface]

for those of you that didn't see the thread i made,

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373577

4 people joined so far, anything above 10 will be a decent number

[MILF Hunter]

I changed my team a bit, and have now joined

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I'M IN !

Rancid Dan United

[red barchetta]

i'll be happy if i dont end up at last place. because that hapened 2 seasons ago in my friends league...

[Angry Balled Fists!]

1: Cech

2: Terry
3: Carragher
4: Heinze
5: Fortune

6: Robben
7: Osman
8: Emre
9: Nolan

10: Shearer (C)
11: Bellamy

Subs

12: Jaaskela-inen
Goalkeeper

13: De Zeeuw
Defender

14: Carsley
Midfielder

15: Horsfield
Forward

[ChodaBoy]

Its not going well for Man City.

Sun Jihai will miss the first 3 games
Barton may be sold off
and Dunne is out for 3 months

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

Barton's brother is wanted in connection with a racist killing, must be quite a screwed up family that one.

[lilpete86]

Team P enis has joined the mx league now. I've posted my team in the fantasy football thread.

[ATM]

Well, at least DC United gave Chelsea a scare :)

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Not really...

[Iai]

I also posted my team in the other thread.

It's awful. I only entered to make everyone else feel better about themselves. :)

[Lord Abortion]

this league should be good, except everyone except me and RB (van der sar) have gone for cech in goal...

[metal-militia]

if i have to use any of my subs then i will be screwed :upset:

[lilpete86]

this league should be good, except everyone except me and RB (van der sar) have gone for cech in goal...


I have friedel in goal.

[Lord Abortion]

if i have to use any of my subs then i will be screwed :upset:
you will do...

but you can pick your best one to play, it changes your formation...

[munky_magik]

3 - 0 Celtic. **** off.


Well, 4 wasn't enough :)

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

They actually resembled a team tonight though defence is still a big weakness.

[MILF Hunter]

this league should be good, except everyone except me and RB (van der sar) have gone for cech in goal...


I have Given in goal

[munky_magik]

They actually resembled a team tonight though defence is still a big weakness.
Camara looks to have been a waste of money. One good cross out of every game he's played and numerous mistakes.

If I hear one person say Celtic deserved to go through then I'll kill them.

[ChodaBoy]

Camara looks to have been a waste of money. One good cross out of every game he's played and numerous mistakes.

If I hear one person say Celtic deserved to go through then I'll kill them.
4-0 wasnt a bad result though, they did well to pull it back...

Celtic deserved to go through

[munky_magik]

4-0 wasnt a bad result though, they did well to pull it back...

Celtic deserved to go through
They did pull it back, but most people seem to be forgetting the 5 goals they lost in the previous leg.

If they scored 5+ goals then they deserved to go through, but only scoring 4 means they don't.
I'm sorry but I'm going to have to kill you now :p

[Lord Abortion]

people were surprised... remember the tsunami aid charity match hat-trick? :p

[Grondahl]

It's Mo Camara who plays for Celtic, not Henri Camara. Mo Camara is a left back who used to play for Burnley and as a Preston fan, I'd just like to say - he sucks.

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

As a Rangers and a general football fan I'll say he sucks to :p

[red barchetta]

this league should be good, except everyone except me and RB (van der sar) have gone for cech in goal...
he better be good this season... he is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. :cool:

i didnt pick cech because:

1. too expensive
2. i want chelsea to become a failure this season :p

[Lord Abortion]

It's Mo Camara who plays for Celtic, not Henri Camara. Mo Camara is a left back who used to play for Burnley and as a Preston fan, I'd just like to say - he sucks.
I thought they got henri on loan?

[ChodaBoy]

Camara is about to sign for Wigan from Wolves

[Lord Abortion]

Camara is about to sign for Wigan from Wolves
ah.. he was at celtic at some point though right? :(
I'm not going mad?

[Kickflip_Burrito]

^^^ Yes he was.

[ChodaBoy]

I think he went on loan there, it just never worked out and returned to Wolves

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

Camara went from Celtic to Southampton I thought :S

[Lord Abortion]

Camara went from Celtic to Southampton I thought :S
ah, I'm not insane then, jolly good

[metal-militia]

Camara went from Celtic to Southampton I thought :S

we had Camara on loan for the end of last season and he was good. Apparently he might be going to Wigan. (Which Choda just pointed out but i didn't see :upset: )

[markface]

i'm looking forward to watching stoke whup sheff wednesday on saturday

[Chris]

I never post in here, but I have to do this.

:chug: Davids Signs For Spurs At Last :chug:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/4719445.stm

[markface]

He may be past his best, but he's still worthy of getting in the Spurs side.

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

Wonder how many times he will get sent off?

[Mongo]

I wish we got Davids.


But we can always look on the bright side - Nick Butt's on loan to Birmingham!!

[MILF Hunter]

Got im so excited about Saturday!!

[Mongo]

Whats happening on Saturday.
Maybe we might have signed Owen by then... :lol:

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

Isn't Saturday the start of the season or is it the charity shield?

[StoneRosesFanatic]

It's the charity shield on Saturday along with all the non-Premiership leagues starting.

Premiership starts 13th August.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVERTON!

[ChodaBoy]

I cant believe its coming again so quickly. It feels so soon since 04/05 finished

[Lord Abortion]

It's the charity shield on Saturday along with all the non-Premiership leagues starting.

Premiership starts 13th August.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVERTON!
your'e going to lose your first game :cool:

[metal-militia]

bah im going on holliday early hours of tommorow so i'm not going to be able to watch Saints game vs Wolves on sky :(

[Mongo]

Yeah we will lose against Arsenal aswell.
Half of me wants Newcastle to do well this season but the other half wants them to lose the first 20 games so Graeme Souness can get sacked :)

[markface]

Any non-premiership team supporters here? I regularly head down to the Britannia Stadium to watch my team in action. :cool:

Can't wait for Saturday, the new season starts and I get a brand new 27 inch TV! Wowzer.

[guitarbaz]

Yeah we will lose against Arsenal aswell.
Half of me wants Newcastle to do well this season but the other half wants them to lose the first 20 games so Graeme Souness can get sacked :)

all well and good, but what's the alternative?

there's only o'neill who i'd gladly see at st. james' and he's out the reckoning for the time being, and more likely to end up at the red scum eventually.

we shall see.....(dick) emre looks good as does parker, get us owen and we'd be somewhere there..

[scroogey]

who do you reckon will be the first manager to go from the premiership next season? I reckon Chris Coleman, as Fulham haven't been doing well for a while and I don't see them getting a good start to next season. Souness will last a bit longer though as he hasn't been there too long

[Mongo]

Ferguson :rolleyes:

[Grondahl]

Any non-premiership team supporters here? I regularly head down to the Britannia Stadium to watch my team in action. :cool:

Preston fan here. We've just signed Lewis Neal from you, in exchange for Marlon Broomes. Is Neal any good? I know he plays on the left, but not much else.

[Mongo]

Preston fan here. We've just signed Lewis Neal from you, in exchange for Marlon Broomes. Is Neal any good? I know he plays on the left, but not much else.

Do you support Preston cause you live near there or some reason like that or do you support a Premiership team aswell?

[Grondahl]

Do you support Preston cause you live near there or some reason like that or do you support a Premiership team aswell?

I was born in Preston, therefore that's who I support.

[StoneRosesFanatic]

Theres only one Phillip Neville
Theres only one Phillip Neville
He don't play up front
and his brother's a c*nt
Walking in a Neville wonderland.

[Mongo]

I was born in Preston, therefore that's who I support.

Oh i see :thumb:

The Neville brothers both suck. :evil:
Man Utd Scum... :angry:

[MILF Hunter]

Any non-premiership team supporters here? I regularly head down to the Britannia Stadium to watch my team in action. :cool:

Can't wait for Saturday, the new season starts and I get a brand new 27 inch TV! Wowzer.


Darlo fan here.

The new shirts come on sale tomorrow. I shall be there first thing to purchase mine :thumb:

[munky_magik]

Darlo fan here.

The new shirts come on sale tomorrow. I shall be there first thing to purchase mine :thumb:
Which new shirts?

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Theres only one Phillip Neville
Theres only one Phillip Neville
He don't play up front
and his brother's a c*nt
Walking in a Neville wonderland.
:lol: Thats a good chant.

The best has to be :

Don't blame it on the Biscan,
Don't blame it on the Harmann,
Don't blame it on the Finnan,
Blame it on Traore.

(^^ imagine the tune to Michael Jackson's 'Blame It On The Boogie')

[Mongo]

Oh i see :thumb:

The Neville brothers both suck. :evil:
Man Utd Scum... :angry:

Oh i didnt realise Phil Neville had signed for...um...Birmingham i think?
I always forget stuff :p

[MILF Hunter]

Which new shirts?

Next seasons

[lilpete86]

:lol: Thats a good chant.

The best has to be :

Don't blame it on the Biscan,
Don't blame it on the Harmann,
Don't blame it on the Finnan,
Blame it on Traore.

(^^ imagine the tune to Michael Jackson's 'Blame It On The Boogie')

Then finish it off with

"He just can't, He just can't, He just can't control his feet"

[Mongo]

Oh i didnt realise Phil Neville had signed for...um...Birmingham i think?
I always forget stuff :p

Actually it was Everton :rolleyes:

[red barchetta]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/4747605.stm

Essien really wants to warm the Chelsea bench

[Mongo]

32 Million and a player is ridiculous.
Although the player doesnt have to be any good.
They already have enough players at Chelsea!!

[Hump-Backed-Tortoise]

He's worth about 15 tops.

[Iai]

:lol: Thats a good chant.
How about -

Cheer up Kevin Keegan
Oh what can it mean
To a sad Geordie bastard and a
**** football team

(coined after Man U overtook Newcastle to win the title despite Newcastle's 12-point lead)

[ChodaBoy]

32 Million and a player is ridiculous.
Although the player doesnt have to be any good.
They already have enough players at Chelsea!!
They just seem to be buying anyone who poses a threat

[Angry Balled Fists!]

How about -

Cheer up Kevin Keegan
Oh what can it mean
To a sad Geordie bastard and a
**** football team

(coined after Man U overtook Newcastle to win the title despite Newcastle's 12-point lead)

:(...

[Mr. Black]

How about:

Andy Cole
Andy Cole
Oohh Andy Cole

He gets the ball
He does **** all
Oohh Andy Cole

[Mongo]

How about this;

Dwight Yorke, Dwight Yorke
Smells like pork

:D

[markface]

I'm SO EXCITED about tomorrow, damnit

I think I'm about to soil my panties

[MILF Hunter]

I'm SO EXCITED about tomorrow, damnit

I think I'm about to soil my panties


Me too!

Who have Preston(?) got?

[Lord Abortion]

How about -

Cheer up Kevin Keegan
Oh what can it mean
To a sad Geordie bastard and a
**** football team

(coined after Man U overtook Newcastle to win the title despite Newcastle's 12-point lead)
that was the greatest season ever for mockery of all my Newcastle-supporting friends...
/is a man u fan living near newcastle

so...saha is injured again *cough*Owen*cough*
and Phil neville goes to everton...he wasn't that bad... if everton play him against Arsenal, they could have a chance, he has been at the forefront of all our recent victories over the cockney wankers...

best chant? has to be millwall's "nobody likes us, we don't care!" :lol:

[Timm]

the new bundesliga season starts today and I cannot watch it live cause our friggin paytv receiver is fukked :angry:

[Iai]

best chant? has to be millwall's "nobody likes us, we don't care!" :lol:
Mill, MillWALL!
Nobody likes us
Nobody likes us
Mill, MillWALL!
Nobody likes us
Nobody likes us

/to tune of 'More More More'

[poorquality]

Anyone catch the dude from news of the world talking about the back pages on the cricket review? He said something about someone putting an 11 mil bid in for Owen, but I didnt hear who, I can't find this information on skysports or bbc so I dont know.

[MILF Hunter]

Gah 1-1. 2 points lost

[Kickflip_Burrito]

so...saha is injured again *cough*Owen*cough*
United won't buy Owen unless they sell Saha, which won't happen seeing as Saha is injured again.
Liverpool have now said they want him back.

And another chant for you guys :

Vieira, ooo ah!
Vieira, ooo ah!
You gave Giggsy the ball
And Arsenal won fúck all!

(if you recall that fateful FA Cup semi-final match were Giggs scored that long dribble :upset: :upset: )

[poorquality]

and what a great goal that was :) he's past one, he's past two, he's going all the way ..what a goal :o

[Lord Abortion]

and what a great goal that was :) he's past one, he's past two, he's going all the way ..what a goal :o
one of the best nights of my life...

[clearvision]

Hmm Looks like Watford are going down :(

[markface]

Well chuffed with the result, first game with a new manager and a pretty much brand new first team playing, 0-0 draw after playing with 10 men for 75 minutes.. the future's looking bright for the potters

[red barchetta]

Nakamura is amazing :cool:

[ChodaBoy]

Is it just me, or is Andy Gray like the bad announcer in wrestling?
Whenever someone does something crap or screws up, hes always saying how excellent it is

[Mr. Black]

Premiership season kicks off next week, does it not, so predictions lads and lasses, who's going, down, who's winning the premiership, who's winning the FA cup etc.

[MILF Hunter]

Chelsea Arsenal was a pretty good game.

Champions - Chealsea
Down - Fulham,Wigan,WBA
FaCup - Darlington :)

[Lord Abortion]

premiership: I feel horrible for saying this...but chelsea, though we will push them all the way
relegation: WBA, Wigan, Sunderland
FA cup- Manchester united
champion' league- man utd. (we stand a better chance of doing this than winning the league)

[munky_magik]

Who won the charity shield match?

[MILF Hunter]

chelsea 2-1 Arsenal

DrogbaX2 - Fabregas

[Grondahl]

Hmm Looks like Watford are going down :(

Adrian Boothroyd (Watford's manager, I think) called Preston the best team in the Championship :cool:

So it's no disgrace to lose to the champion's elect ;)

[Ganondorf]

Is this the way to hammer Villa?
With lots of goals from Zoltan Gera
We'll be ****tin' on the Villa
When Zoltan Gera scores for me
lalalala

(To the theme of Amarilo)

[ChodaBoy]

If I had the wings of a sparrow,
If I had the arse of a cow,
I'd fly over Old Trafford tomorrow,
And **** on the Bastards below.
BELOOOOOoooow

[Clunge]

I'm again in no doubt that Aston Villa will once again have a shite season under O'Leary...

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Premier League - Chelsea
Relegation - Wigan, WBA, Sunderland
FA Cup - Man United
League Cup - Chelsea

We (Arsenal) just couldn't get into the match today. Lauren's pathetic attempt at tackling Drogba for the second goal and Senderos' lack of awareness and movement for the first were bad errors.

I predict a bad season for Arsenal. :upset:

[markface]

I think Arsenals brief reign as one of Englands top 2 teams is over.

[lilpete86]

I'm again in no doubt that Aston Villa will once again have a shite season under O'Leary...


O'leary isn't the main problem, the problem is Doug Ellis. With Ellis in charge we have no ambition what so ever.

[loathed]

heh. man u will will the EPL this year. and chelsea will find out exactly how hard it is to win back to back titles. :lol:

[Lord Abortion]

heh. man u will will the EPL this year. and chelsea will find out exactly how hard it is to win back to back titles. :lol:
we would if we made another quality signing, a creative midfielder in the ballack, aimar, kaka, ronaldinho vein, and another quality striker, since as soon as saha returns from injury he will be sold I think and alan smith is going to be employed in defensive midfield...
so that gives us 2 strikers, 3 if solskjaer returns... nowhere near enough...
admittedly 2 of the best strikers in the world, but injuries will happen, so there is cover needed.
and we finally got rid of kleberson thank god...
so we signed van der sar to solve our keeping problems- a good move, and Park for... erm... I don't quite know, but he looks good, possible long term replacement for Giggs?

[MILF Hunter]

Did you hear about the morons from Hull City shouting at the QPR fans.

"your just a town full of bombers" and something like "not enough dead londoners"

[Iai]

And the disciplinary action is....?

I'm having trouble seeing a Top 4 finish for Arsenal, honestly.

[loathed]

we would if we made another quality signing, a creative midfielder in the ballack, aimar, kaka, ronaldinho vein, and another quality striker, since as soon as saha returns from injury he will be sold I think and alan smith is going to be employed in defensive midfield...
so that gives us 2 strikers, 3 if solskjaer returns... nowhere near enough...
admittedly 2 of the best strikers in the world, but injuries will happen, so there is cover needed.
and we finally got rid of kleberson thank god...
so we signed van der sar to solve our keeping problems- a good move, and Park for... erm... I don't quite know, but he looks good, possible long term replacement for Giggs?

*sighs* :upset: ...only if the glazers didnt appear. and we wouldnt have this mountain of debt to clear...ballack is still a possibility. and park looks good. well, only time will tell...the new season starts next week.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Did you hear about the morons from Hull City shouting at the QPR fans.

"your just a town full of bombers" and something like "not enough dead londoners"

Geez, i'm ashamed that their one of our local teams..

[Grondahl]

Preston v Derby tonight. Unfortunately for me, I don't have Sky, and can't afford to go on my meagre student budget. Still, judging from the last two Preston v Derby games at Deepdale should be a cracker. The first leg of the play-off's last year certainly was.

[Grondahl]

W00t! David Nugent! 1-0 to PNE.

It's not quite the same listening on radio though... :upset:

:upset: :upset: :upset:

Idiakez scores from the penalty spot for Derby.

:upset: :upset:

[Grondahl]

:(

Preston draw 1-1 with Derby. From the sounds of it, we played some good football without creating many chances, but our finishing was poor when we did create a chance. Still, only drawing at home has to be considered two points dropped.

[MILF Hunter]

I watched it. Nugent was excellent as always, same with Creswell

[Ganondorf]

And the disciplinary action is....?

I'm having trouble seeing a Top 4 finish for Arsenal, honestly.

So who would finish above them?

Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool, and errmm....Everton? The team they beat 7-0 last season?

[ChodaBoy]

Arsenal lose one player - and the team goes down the toilet?

Most of the time Viera wasnt on the pitch, he was too busy counting all of his red cards

[Grondahl]

I watched it. Nugent was excellent as always, same with Creswell

Sheffield United had a bid of 800k for Cresswell rejected by us. He isn't technically a great player, but you'd be hard pushed to find a player who works harder.

According to the radio commentators, Etuhu was in great shape. He always seems to be capable of playing well, but lacks consistency in his performances. If he can find that consistency, it won't be long before he joins a Premiership team.

And apparently Lee Camp made another howler for our goal. Deepdale seems a nightmare ground for him.

[Clunge]

O'leary isn't the main problem, the problem is Doug Ellis. With Ellis in charge we have no ambition what so ever.
Maybe, but just look at the players O'Leary has brought into the club with what he has been given to spend, complete and utter shite.

[ChodaBoy]

According to the radio commentators, Etuhu was in great shape. He always seems to be capable of playing well, but lacks consistency in his performances. If he can find that consistency, it won't be long before he joins a Premiership team.
Haha, I remember when City sold him to Preston, and then one of the following games was City vs. Preston, Ive never heard someone booed so much

[Lord Abortion]

It's always great listening to 5 live... especially if it's Alan Green, I love him so much

[Grondahl]

It's always great listening to 5 live... especially if it's Alan Green, I love him so much

Stuart Hall > all other radio comentators.

[Lord Abortion]

Stuart Hall > all other radio comentators.
he is incredible, a great man who can make a charlton game seem interesting

[markface-]

I hate this name :angry:

[lilpete86]

Maybe, but just look at the players O'Leary has brought into the club with what he has been given to spend, complete and utter shite.

What do you mean what he has been given to spend?! That was just typical doug ellis fake promises he makes them every season, He promised £20 million to spend on players so far only about £2-3 of that has been seen and to be honest knowing the way villa do it were not going to see much else.

From what he spent though I think Kevin Philips was a bargain buy the jurys still out on hughes, berger and taylor though.

[Lord Abortion]

question: have the bbc got the rights to all champions league matches now?
our game is on the beeb tonight...

5-0 prediction- van nistlerooy hat-trick

rio signs new contract eh?
about bloody time...the mercenary bastard

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I hope so.

BBC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ITV

I love Alan Hansen, Schemeichel and the crew.

[EdwardTheGreat]

Yeah its strange, even if BBC had crap cooentators I'd still watch games on that just to avoid the bloody adverts on ITV.

Anyway does anyone else agree that something has gone horribly wrong at Newcastle this season? We've sold like 8 players of varying quality and brought in 2 reasonable players, and 1 backup player. I thought that for Shearers last season we'd be firing on all cylinders, but no Graeme Souness has decided to give us a squad that has no backup in any posistion, no hope of getting into Europe, and a bottom half finish for certain! Surely I cant be the only one who thinks Newcastle are in trouble this year?

[Lord Abortion]

hmm... ITV has gabby logan-bonus

newcastle are ****ed, sorry Dan and others... they have no chance this season

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I'm not sure.

I'm a toon fan and i think that Emre and Parker are better than any player we've sold this year. Easily.

But i think we really neree to get Owen and Boa-Morte and another good Defender or two.

As long as we keep Jenas and Dyer, i'm happy.

Parker, Jenas, Emre, Dyer.

One of the best midfileds int he country.

Shame abuot the defence.

[Lord Abortion]

I'm not sure.

I'm a toon fan and i think that Emre and Parker are better than any player we've sold this year. Easily.

But i think we really neree to get Owen and Boa-Morte and another good Defender or two.

As long as we keep Jenas and Dyer, i'm happy.

Parker, Jenas, Emre, Dyer.

One of the best midfileds int he country.

Shame abuot the defence.
1.true
2.you won't get owen, man utd are just pissing around... they will bid for him, it may take a rooney-style newcastle bidding for him thing to get them to do it...but they will

3.jenas looks on his way out and dyer I don't really rate TBH
if they keep him that midfield WILL be good

[lilpete86]

I don't really rate jenas to highly but dyer in my opinion is one of the most exciting newcastle players, his pace is amazing.

[pendrightheloved1]

watching man united play and they look quality. Ronaldo is pulling off some neat tricks and the teams looking good together.

[pendrightheloved1]

ok so after the initial 15-20 minutes they've been a bit worse. hopefully they'll pick it up again in the decond half

[munky_magik]

I find it hard to believe that it's only 1-0 :-/

[Lord Abortion]

Half time...
Newsflash!
dogged defending prevents United scoring!
no incisive players shock!

oh wait...that's nothing new :upset:

well ronaldo looks in touch...

[pendrightheloved1]

3-0 at the end. All of man uniteds strikers looked good. (especially rooney)

[Broken Angels]

I can't believe that it only finished 3-0.
If Man U had pressed for the whole game then they could've had a much safer second leg.

[Dave13mc]

United should have got a penalty when Park Ji Sung went down in the penalty area and Debrechen did actually score
3-0 dissapointing

[Broken Angels]

The penalty was debatable, I think. If he had went down earlier he may have got it, but he went down too late.

And yeah, the Debrechen goal should've stood.

[Lord Abortion]

I may be slightly biased but I disagree, it was only a little touch, but it was enough to prevent neville from tackling and therefore a foul
and park ji sung should have had a penalty... NM, 3-0 is enough and Park looks good

[Dave13mc]

Park looks good
True :thumb:

[loathed]

wooooooooo 3-0 to man utd...now, how many of you here would have the grapefruits to bet against them not getting through? :naughty:

[markface-]

It's no big deal, they were like the equivalent of an English league two team. Easy opposition. I'll make my judgement when the season starts.

[StoneRosesFanatic]

Everton lost but we shouldn't have I reckon - 2 goals of extreme quality by Villareal and that was all they had really. Good finish by Beattie who had an excellent game.

2-1 to Villareal but I believe Everton can turn it around.

[munky_magik]

Everton lost but we shouldn't have I reckon - 2 goals of extreme quality by Villareal and that was all they had really. Good finish by Beattie who had an excellent game.

2-1 to Villareal but I believe Everton can turn it around.
Villareal have two away goals though, don't they?

[markface-]

Villareal have two away goals though, don't they?
Yeah. Everton have got to score 3 to win it (I think)

I'm well impressed with Rooney, if he plays like he did last night for the rest of the season my fantasy football team will be flying high this year. One goal, set up a couple, happy days. :cool:

[munky_magik]

Yeah. Everton have got to score 3 to win it (I think)
I can't see that happening.

[Broken Angels]

I may be slightly biased but I disagree, it was only a little touch, but it was enough to prevent neville from tackling and therefore a foul
and park ji sung should have had a penalty... NM, 3-0 is enough and Park looks good
Man Utd fan then?
I don't think it was enough of a touch to be a free kick. Neville just messed up.

[pendrightheloved1]

he got body checked in mid air

[Broken Angels]

I wouldnt've called it a body check, exactly.

[EdwardTheGreat]

It was nothing, but because the ref was only on the halfway line, all he could see was 2 players jump up, and Neville go down. You cant blame him for playing it safe and saying it was a foul can you? Still it wouldnt have really affected the tie. Man Utd always had it in the bag. Still Rooney and Ronaldo looked great. Having now seen Arsenal and Man Utd in action I think that Man Utd wiull just pip Arsenal to 2nd spot now. Anyone agree, or same top 3 as last season?

[Lord Abortion]

If united can convert chances this season and avoid the plethora of 0-0 draws against poor teams when we batter them for 90 minutes like last season then we will fnish second, if we sign a creative midfielder and michael owen then we may well come first.

As was said in the commenary last night United and Chelsea looking at first 11's only are about equal
for example: ruud van nistlerooy and wayne rooney are much better than drogba and crespo,
however peter cech is better than Van der sar :upset:
and john terry is better than silvestre but ronaldo is better than duff

[Coelophisis]

park is useless

[Broken Angels]

It was nothing, but because the ref was only on the halfway line, all he could see was 2 players jump up, and Neville go down. You cant blame him for playing it safe and saying it was a foul can you? Still it wouldnt have really affected the tie. Man Utd always had it in the bag. Still Rooney and Ronaldo looked great. Having now seen Arsenal and Man Utd in action I think that Man Utd wiull just pip Arsenal to 2nd spot now. Anyone agree, or same top 3 as last season?
I don't blame the ref at all. These things happen, I just think that it should have stood as a goal.

And I think I agree with you. Man U certainly looked much better in action than Arsenal but judgment shall be reserved until the first few games of the season.

[StoneRosesFanatic]

Yeah. Everton have got to score 3 to win it (I think)

I'm well impressed with Rooney, if he plays like he did last night for the rest of the season my fantasy football team will be flying high this year. One goal, set up a couple, happy days. :cool:

We need to score 2 and concede a maximum of 1 to take it to extra time.

Stranger things have happened in football...I recall a Liverpool team coming from 3-0 down against Milan and that was in 45 minutes. This is less goals - more time.

COME ON BLUE BOYS!

[Ganondorf]

Yeah but Liverpool are actually good.

[loathed]

Don't worry, Everton has enough quality to make a comeback...they must not underestimate villareal though. ;)

[markface-]

park is useless
Give the bloke a chance, first match for the team, he's bound to be a bit nervous. He only played, what, 20 minutes? He had a few nifty touches in that time, but when you're in a team with people like Rooney, Keane and Van Nistelrooy, if you don't automatically bang in 8 goals you're deemed a failure.

[davey]

is anyone here doing a dream team this season? You see i need a bit of help with mine which one out of these two teams i should pick they are both very simialr apart from three minor changes that are in capitals.

Team 1
gk. Sorensen
d. king
d. knight
d. weir
d. mills
m. savage
m. DUNN
m. FABREGAS
s. CISSE
s. Henry
s. Bellamy

Team 2
gk sorensen
d king
d knight
d weir
d mills
m savage
m CARSLEY
m GERRARD
s DIOUF
s henry
s bellamy

[markface-]

is anyone here doing a dream team this season? You see i need a bit of help with mine which one out of these two teams i should pick they are both very simialr apart from three minor changes that are in capitals.

Team 1
gk. Sorensen
d. king
d. knight
d. weir
d. mills
m. savage
m. DUNN
m. FABREGAS
s. CISSE
s. Henry
s. Bellamy

Team 2
gk sorensen
d king
d knight
d weir
d mills
m savage
m CARSLEY
m GERRARD
s DIOUF
s henry
s bellamy
Did you join the MX fantasy football league?

[davey]

Did you join the MX fantasy football league?
no this is the one from the sun, but i might join the mx one aswell if it isnt to late?
p.s in team one replace fabregas with ljunberg.

[markface-]

Okay, go to

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

and make your team.

Then go to the leagues section and enter 67491-34774, this will get you into the MX league. Good luck, you'll need it against my team. ;)

[loathed]

im in...

[scroogey]

I can never do those - the players i choose always suck. even if they used to be good!

[EdwardTheGreat]

Okay, go to

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

and make your team.

Then go to the leagues section and enter 67491-34774, this will get you into the MX league. Good luck, you'll need it against my team. ;)

I've just joined, but it doesnt have Park Ji Sung (I think thats his name) I want him! I'm stuck with Fabregas until they put him in. Is there a way you can change formation in that, because I dont want 3 strikers?

[SickBoy]

Okay, go to

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

and make your team.

Then go to the leagues section and enter 67491-34774, this will get you into the MX league. Good luck, you'll need it against my team. ;)

i'll give it ago

[SickBoy]

****, i spent a bit too much at the back
still bourght Earnie though :)

[markface-]

Alright, we got to 20 teams in the MX league, the season gets underway tomorrow. Good luck to everyone taking part. ;)

[guitarbaz]

Alright, we got to 20 teams in the MX league, the season gets underway tomorrow. Good luck to everyone taking part. ;)

make that 21. :thumb:

[markface-]

:thumb:

This should be good, the other forum I go to only got 16 people taking part. I guess it's just more people for me to beat, mwahhaha

[guitarbaz]

:thumb:

This should be good, the other forum I go to only got 16 people taking part. I guess it's just more people for me to beat, mwahhaha

i did mine in about 5 minutes. that kind of randomness must make it a winner.. :p

[Rage_Against_The_PC]

Season starts tomorow, anyone goin to any games ?

[loathed]

whooooo, man u vs everton in approximately 8 hours :D

[markface-]

Season starts tomorow, anyone goin to any games ?
no, i went last weeks match against Sheffield Wednesday (I'm a Stoke fan), it's very rare that i bother to go to away games, especially ones at Millwall

[Britney Diva]

Any comments on the day's events?

[Broken Angels]

Can someone fill me on the scores? I was working :(

[SocalJoker89]

football is here :thumb:

[Illmatic]

Socal: this thread is about footie/futbol/soccer, not American football.

[markface-]

Rooney and Campo both scoring for me, nice

[red barchetta]

Rooney and Campo both scoring for me, nice
high five, i have Rooney too :thumb:. and Van der sar :cool:

now my all-chelsea defence should get me a lot of points next

[loathed]

park is good!!! :thumb:

[markface-]

He'll definitely bang a few goals in this season, I've got faith in him to be a success in the premier.

:bowdown: to Campo, even though he's an ugly git he still scored

[red barchetta]

does ANYONE have a Wigan player in their fantasy football account?

[ChodaBoy]

What a load of ****

Chelsea win. :angry:

[munky_magik]

Are you really surprised?

Rangers lost :eek:

[Lord Abortion]

2-0 and a goal each from rooney and ruud...supreme...

[bassman04]

Chelsea are a bunch of spawny gits, and Steve Bennet is a wanker.

[Iai]

West Ham second in the Premier.

Let's hope they don't get too used to it.

Anyone else hear about the Iranian who's mooted a takeover bid for the Hammers?

[Iai]

1 The Powerslaves Dan Bonney 57 57
2 Bootboys FC Geth Jones 54 54
3 Pendrigh United matthew pendrigh 52 52
3 Synyster FC synyster gates 52 52
5 Harbord FC ciaran obrien 50 50
5 Deepdale Dynamos Michael Forrester 50 50
7 Badass Potter Army Mark Smells 49 49
8 red_FC yusuke okamoto 48 48
9 Emre is a Geordie FC Richard Bosson 47 47
10 Team ***** Peter Alcock 46 46
11 ABUNDANCE OF WILLY Nick Butler 44 44
12 DarlopunX dave robinson 43 43
12 The Clunge James Chapple 43 43
14 Lord Abortion F.C Oliver Lazzari 42 42
14 the child molesters kieran hurn 42 42
16 Team Punx Andreas Rekdal 41 41
16 Sega Bass Fishing Liam Murphy 41 41
18 Metal Militia FC Charlie Fuller 40 40
19 The Roadies Tim Oberg 35 35
19 monkeysfromspace eddie judd 35 35
19 Rancid Dan United Dan Bran 35 35
22 Tomo's Terrific Team Tom Otworowski 34 34
23 Sporting Alobon barry phillipson 32 32

Hooray, I'm mediocre! (/me is ABUNDANCE OF WILLY)

[Mr. Black]

I joined, too, I'm third the team name made up of numbers, How do you Buy/Sell players , Change formation???

[the spot]

wot were the scores 2day

[SickBoy]

arsenal 2-0 newcastle
chelsea 1-0 wigan, which were an excellent game

[SickBoy]

does ANYONE have a Wigan player in their fantasy football account?

i got teale

BOOTBOYS FC!!! :)

[Mr. Black]

I joined, too, I'm third the team name made up of numbers, How do you Buy/Sell players , Change formation???


Tell Me How

[7killer7]

I joined, too, I'm third the team name made up of numbers, How do you Buy/Sell players , Change formation???

to transfer players, login and go to the 'Transfers' link on the navigation menu on the right hand side of the screen. You get one free transfer per gameweek, after that it costs you 4 points per transfer.

To change formation simply pick the players you want to play in each position. For example, if you wanted to change from 4-3-3 to 4-4-2, you'd just drop an attacker and pick a midfielder instead.

[Mr. Black]

thanks
http://fantasy.premierleague.com/M/myteam.mc
Yo guys check my Team

[ChodaBoy]

Doesnt work. Plus, by the looks of the link, thats not specifically for your team

[Lord Abortion]

I thought I'd be better off....
goals from rooney and defoe, clean sheet for VDS...bugger it

EDIT- boumsong-0 points
jenas- minus 2 :angry:

[SickBoy]

i aint sure how i got as many points, i think it was all my defence

[red barchetta]

awesome, my defence (all chelsea) got me 24 points all together

[Iai]

I thought there was a limit on how many players you could have from one team. :upset:

[red barchetta]

yeah, 3.

i have terry (C), del horno and paulo ferreira.

[Iai]

Oh, right. I thought you meant your WHOLE defence was Chelsea.

I have Gallas, he got me 6 points. My highest scorer aside from Rooney, who got 12 (but is my captain so basically got 6 too).

[red barchetta]

i have a 3-4-3 formaion, so my defenders that are on the pitch are all Chelsea players.

[Iai]

I see.

Might have to try that. Defenders tend to score pretty low on dream team games.

[guitarbaz]

steve bennett is a useless, biased bumbling fool.

outrageous.

i was just gonna call him a complete and utter fcuking c.unt but i won't resort to abuse.

[guitarbaz]

how come my team formation changed all by itself as well??
does it automatically just pick the highest scoring squad members or something?

/goes to read the rules and stuff...

[Mr. Black]

Bugger, I wont let me log in, cos there is too many poeple on, BAstard

[red barchetta]

wtf, i thought this deal was over??? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/4151748.stm)

[Mr. Black]

wtf, i thought this deal was over??? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/4151748.stm)


Hey yeah, I thought they had already signed him

[markface-]

It seems the site for the fantasy football is updating to a new server or something, so you're not able to view other peoples teams right now. It should be fixed in the next week or so. I'm 7th or around. Badass.

[red barchetta]

good news for Newcastle fans and people that have Jenas in their fantasy team:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/4153130.stm

[Firecracker]

Oh my god there were some disgraceful tackles at the weekend. oooouch

[TakeWarning]

Oh my god there were some disgraceful tackles at the weekend. oooouch

I don't think Jermain Jenas deserved to be sent off. He was going for the ball, it was just a bit unlucky for the guy with the ball.

[guitarbaz]

good news for Newcastle fans and people that have Jenas in their fantasy team:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/4153130.stm

still f.ucked up the match for us though. the bloke's an arse and shouldn't be reffing premier matches. it wasn't even a yellow card, what a wanker.

[Iai]

Meh, it happens at the start of every season. FA tightens the rules, referees go out all guns blazing, then all parties suddenly realise they're stopping people from actually, ya know, playing football.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

still f.ucked up the match for us though. the bloke's an arse and shouldn't be reffing premier matches. it wasn't even a yellow card, what a wanker.

i think that was fair enoguh to give that a red card, to say it shouldn't have even been a yellow just makes you look like a biased f'uck. His non-tackling leg came through and could've snapped Gilberto's standing leg. It also caused him to catch his right leg in the turg, which could cause serious ligament damage.

I was at the game.

[Rage_Against_The_PC]

Oh my god there were some disgraceful tackles at the weekend. oooouch

went to the first pompey game sat yeh some of the spurs tackles against us were straight yellow card offences, yet the bald twat (ref) didnt give us any joy. We were ****e though and i wont just blame the ref and the rain :upset:

[Mr. Black]

Ivan Campo's tackle against whoever looked bad to me this weekend, didn't get nothing neither

I remeber watching Liverpool - Sunderland game in their last season in the premiership, and Didi Hamann went in two footed on some Sunderland player, Yet won the ball cleanly and was sent off.

The English League definatly need to try the Digital Ref thing they have in Rugby at least for a season, cos so many Challenges have desicions wrongly put. And they need to sort out the whole two footed tackling rule

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

two footed tackling is illegal, whether the ball is won or not it is a sending off offence. Nothing will ever be clean cut as rules are always open for interpretation. Dickov, Campo, Ambrose and probably Jenas too all deserved to be sent off

[Mr. Black]

I still don't see the point in doing it if you win the ball, yet then again that may tempt players to do it more

I'm not sure really

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

but two footed tackling means that you could get the ball with one foot and break the players leg with the other. Plus two footed tackles tend to be lunging and players often go over the top of the ball.

They are generally cowards tackles

[Ganondorf]

Two footed tackles risk players safety, that's why they're illegal. At the end of the day they know they shouldn't be doing it and get sent of if they do.

[Mr. Black]

good point, so what lies ahead for next week

Liverpool are gonna thrash sunderland 6 - 0

[red barchetta]

arsenal vs chelsea (again) next week...

i say a 1 - 0 win for chelsea

[markface-]

My predictions for this weekend:

Saturday, 20 August 2005

Birmingham 1 - 2 Man City
Blackburn 1 - 0 Fulham
Charlton 2 - 2 Wigan
Liverpool 3 - 1 Sunderland
Man Utd 3 - 0 Aston Villa
Newcastle 1 - 0 West Ham
Tottenham 3 - 1 Middlesbrough
West Brom 2 - 0 Portsmouth

Sunday 21 August 2005

Bolton 0 - 0 Everton
Chelsea 1 - 0 Arsenal

[guitarbaz]

i think that was fair enoguh to give that a red card, to say it shouldn't have even been a yellow just makes you look like a biased f'uck. His non-tackling leg came through and could've snapped Gilberto's standing leg. It also caused him to catch his right leg in the turg, which could cause serious ligament damage.

I was at the game.

bollocks. it was a perfectly legal tackle and ONE footed and didn't even deserve a free kick let alone a red card. that the ref has reduced it to a yellow is as good an admission that he got it totally wrong. i wouldn't expect such a pompous prick to admit he was wrong totally but to reduce it to the yellow is as good as. he got the ball and then took the player too, as you should with any well timed tackle.
and to say that giberto went down easily and rolled around like a large bundle of sticks would be understating it slightly.

but it's all after the event, if it hadn't been for such a ridiculous decision we'd have probably got something from the game.

see below for a coherent and humerous report on the issue, from nufc.com:


New card dealt for our losing hand

The FA confirmed on Monday that the red card incurred by Jermaine Jenas at Highbury has been reduced to a yellow - and that referee Steve Bennett apologised to the player, his manager and the Newcastle players by letter.

As yet though the arrogant w*nker has failed to apologise to the Newcastle fans who had their day wrecked by his poor decision - no apology either from the linesman and fourth official who both had a clear view of the incident, unlike Bennett.

No word yet on the shade of yellow of this card - an issue which seemed to interest Arsene Wenger judging by his post-match comments:

"It looked to me a dark yellow or a clear red"

This is the fourth instance we can remember of a red card awarded against a Newcastle player being withdrawn:

Gary Speed v Aston Villa (h) May 2001 - Another bloody Orpington official, Barry Knight - what is it about that place?

Alan Shearer v Charlton (a) December 2001. Having made the long journey from Essex, Andy D'Urso left his calling card.

Craig Bellamy v Arsenal (a) December 2001. Graeme Poll popped down from Tring for the evening and was suckered by Ashley Cole's dying swan act.

Jermaine Jenas v Arsenal (a) August 2005.

PS - Bennett's decision is also a custard pie for the three wise men of Match of the Day 2 - Adrian Chiles, Graeme Le Saux and Bob Wilson - who were unanimous in their support for the red card.

Skysports were rather more even-handed about the incident.

[guitarbaz]

good point, so what lies ahead for next week

Liverpool are gonna thrash sunderland 6 - 0

i hope so :lol:

[guitarbaz]

Meh, it happens at the start of every season. FA tightens the rules, referees go out all guns blazing, then all parties suddenly realise they're stopping people from actually, ya know, playing football.

common sense never seems to apply tho does it? amazes me at times.

but thank f.uck the footie season has started once again.. :D

[red barchetta]

hopefully Nakata will get his form back for the world cup by moving to... bolton... :upset:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/bolton_wanderers/4138072.stm

[Pulk]

Thats a great signing for them, but where wouild they play him, because they already have a solid midfield in Okocha, Nolan, Diouf, Speed,

[Lord Abortion]

wow, First time I saw the words Diouf and solid in the same sentence...

[markface-]

Thats a great signing for them, but where wouild they play him, because they already have a solid midfield in Okocha, Nolan, Diouf, Speed,
When they're not throwing a hissy fit, that is..

[Britney Diva]

I thought Jenas' card was harsh, but he did deserve a yellow.

International friendlies tomorrow.

Ireland v Italy

[Mr. Black]

wow, First time I saw the words Diouf and solid in the same sentence...

He is alright at Bolton its at Liverpool where he's played poorly

[Iai]

I ALWAYS suck at these. But here goes.

Saturday, 20 August 2005

Birmingham 1 - 2 Man City
Blackburn 1 - 1 Fulham
Charlton 1 - 0 Wigan
Liverpool 2 - 1 Sunderland
Man Utd 3 - 1 Aston Villa
Newcastle 1 - 0 West Ham
Tottenham 3 - 0 Middlesbrough
West Brom 1 - 1 Portsmouth

Sunday 21 August 2005

Bolton 1 - 0 Everton
Chelsea 3 - 1 Arsenal

[markface]

FINALLY UNBANNED!! :naughty:

Would a premiership predictions league be popular on here? If we all did what Iai did and predicted the weekends scores, would a lot of people take part? Same amount of people that are doing the fantasy football would be a decent number.

What you'd all have to do is just predict the scores in each weekends premiership game and if you get the result right (eg. away win, home win), you get 3 points. If you get the score exactly right, 5 points. I'd do all the points adding up and stuff.

Anyone interested?

[Mr. Black]

Hmmm, Seems okay

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, I'll do it.

[Mr. Black]

FINALLY UNBANNED!! :naughty:

Would a premiership predictions league be popular on here? If we all did what Iai did and predicted the weekends scores, would a lot of people take part? Same amount of people that are doing the fantasy football would be a decent number.

What you'd all have to do is just predict the scores in each weekends premiership game and if you get the result right (eg. away win, home win), you get 3 points. If you get the score exactly right, 5 points. I'd do all the points adding up and stuff.

Anyone interested?

How long where you banned for

[markface]

How long where you banned for
This name was banned for a week or so, I was posting on the markface- name though.

I made the predictions game thread. :confused:

[MILF Hunter]

England will win 2-0 tonight

[markface]

Defoe ahead of Owen, :lol:

should be a victory for us though

[TakeWarning]

Defoe ahead of Owen, :lol:

should be a victory for us though

I hope you guys lose just so I can laugh at you.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

bollocks. it was a perfectly legal tackle and ONE footed and didn't even deserve a free kick let alone a red card. that the ref has reduced it to a yellow is as good an admission that he got it totally wrong. i wouldn't expect such a pompous prick to admit he was wrong totally but to reduce it to the yellow is as good as. he got the ball and then took the player too, as you should with any well timed tackle.
and to say that giberto went down easily and rolled around like a large bundle of sticks would be understating it slightly.

but it's all after the event, if it hadn't been for such a ridiculous decision we'd have probably got something from the game.



He went down easily did he? Do you want me to sythe you down and then have a go at you for not staying on your feet? Look at his facial expression as the tackle is made, and then try forming another opinion that would make sense.

The tackle was made initially with one foot, however the tackle became illegal when he brought his non-tackling foot through and took gilberto out at the knee. I feel that Bennett buckled under the pressure imposed upon him, at least as many 'experts' have deemed it to be a red card tackle as have said it isn't.