(melodic metal/metalcore) Atreyu - The Curse

[BuddyBigsby]

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Hardcore is a term that gets thrown around a lot these days. For the most part, it refers to the recent flood of American metal bands whose albums are rapidly building up in the CD collections of adolescents all across the country. The grand majority of said adolescents have only been listening to "hardcore" since late 2003/early 2004, as a replacement for the now dead genre known as nu-metal. However, with the success of bands like From Autumn to Ashes, Atreyu, A Static Lullaby, Poison the Well, and just recently Underoath, it is apparent that this new wave of "hardcore" kids isn't quite ready for music with a whole lot of substance. No, still stuck to the ways of nu-metal and hard rock, many of these 14 to 18-year-olds want accessibility. They want something they can get in their head after one listen. They want music that's dumbed down. Thankfully for them, Atreyu has done just this for them with The Curse, a simplistic and dreadfully bland album manufactured for radio play and mass consumption.
The Curse opens with an eerie non-song track that they seem to have stolen from Avenged Sevenfold's Waking the Fallen. But that's just an intro, right? Nothing to judge an album on. Once the first song "Bleeding Mascara" kicks in, the first thing that comes to the listeners' mind is that Atreyu have greatly improved. Double bass and rhythm guitar combine with a killer lead and Alex's vastly improved scream to create a very headbang-able intro. This spirit keeps up into the verse, which is equally heavy, and possibly the heaviest thing Atreyu has done since their Fractures in the Facade of Your Porcelain Beauty EP. Then comes drummer Brandon Saller on clean vocals to sing the very catchy chorus, but one can't help but cringe at the lyrics, "Look how pretty she is / When she falls down / now there's no beauty in bleeding mascara / lips are quivering, like a withering rose". All in all, "Bleeding Mascara" proves to be a good song. So far so good, but then "Right Side of the Bed" comes in and kills any such excitement. While the verses are very good, the choruses, while catchy, simply don't fit the song and seem forced for the sake of making the song easier to digest for softer ears. The repetitive nature of the verse/chorus song structure makes the song drag on and keeps it from going anywhere, something that rarely occurred on Suicide Notes and Butterfly Kisses. It is very obvious why "Right Side of the Bed" is the single, as it comes off as engineered for heavy MTV rotation.
As The Curse drags on, the songs start to sound more and more alike. They all follow the same formula, the music seems all around half-assed and there's very little logical transition between verse and chorus. The main emphasis seems to be on the choruses and making them obvious enough to gain radioplay. In fact, the only decent song besides "Bleeding Mascara" would have to be "You Eclipsed By Me", which happens to be another heavy song, which actually features a pretty good breakdown. Another annoyance found on The Curse is the production. The Curse is horribly overproduced, and as ridiculous as this may sound, the production comes off as too clear.
The main problem with The Curse is that Atreyu are playing it too safe. The songs lack any real motivation or direction, and it seems that Atreyu have tried way to hard to water down their music to appeal to the masses (more-so than before) and in doing so have lost the climax and excitement that they used to have in their music. I'm sorry, but I just can't get excited about the borefest Atreyu have served up on The Curse.

MP3's = "Right Side of the Bed" (http://www.purevolume.com/download.php?id=87856)
Overall Rating = 4.5/10
Favorite Tracks = "Bleeding Mascara" and "You Eclipsed By Me" are the only songs that matter.

[Sep]

Thanks for this! :thumb: I wanted to read a review before I started downloading random songs.

[TrailOfTragedy]

Thanks for the heads-up, Bigsby. I <3 U.

[cbmartinez]

Wow. I kinda expected this though. A lot of bands don't strike it big with the sophmore release, especially after a powerful first release. I liked SNABK alot, but I couldn't help thinking that Atreyu were a bit overrated. Well, thanks for the review.

[young, loud and andrew]

i guess i'm part of the "mainstream" that the curse was accesible to. i listen to real hardcore and i still found this album to be more interesting and enjoyable than any of the old stuff i've heard.

[BuddyBigsby]

Alright, I patched it up a little bit.

[XxDeathMetalxX]

i totally agree with this review. my friend got an advanced copy about a month ago, i was a fan then and started to listen to it... after 2 songs i was thought my headfones were broken bc the guitar seemed completly dubbed over and i was sickened. i threw it back to him and hated it. then when i saw the video it made up my mind... they sold out. simpley put the cd was a complete disapointment compared to the last release, even thought the last one pretty good but not great.

[WORSTatWHATiDObest]

i bought the cd right before i had read your review, and i agree with you completely. very watered down, over-overproduced, cheesy and cliche songwriting (especially in the choruses), i was very disappointed overall. then again, i was expecting them to out do snabfk, which they didn't. it's not a terrible cd, there are a few songs that were to my liking ('bleeding mascara' and 'my sanity on the funeral pyre' come to mind), and there were some pretty killer guitar leads, which is to be expected. not bad overall, just not as good as atreyu's first major effort. i'll give it 6/10, which will probably turn into 4.5/10 once i hear 'right side of the bed' one too many times on mtv2 and the radio.

[DFelon204409]

The thing is even though I think Atreyu is mediocre, I still like them. In the end, I'll probably like this CD too, buddy? Is that how it's gonna go down even if I think it's weak. I'll still condescend to my true fashioncore self? Show me the light.

[BuddyBigsby]

I don't quite understand that but I'll do the best I can...

I've liked all their previous work, but I hate this CD. Download a few songs and judge for yourself.

[young, loud and andrew]

man we are complete opposites on this cd! i haven't stopped listening to it all day. "right side of the bed" is just so **** catchy-- it's like 80's hair metal all over again. i love it!

[Clayman555]

catchy ....because the riff was written by in flames and is featured in the song the hive

[BuddyBigsby]

catchy ....because the riff was written by in flames and is featured in the song the hive

Eh... not really. The riffs are really different. At the beginning of the respective riffs, the Atreyu one plays chords, while the In Flames one plays a run of single notes that sound nothing like the chords. The similarity doesn't come until the end of that part, and even that they don't sound that close.

I know that might have been confusing but it's hard to explain via text. I can see where you're coming from but the songs definitely aren't close enough to make a comparison like that.

[axeslinga_32]

i just listened to bleeding mascara, it is meh. The production is horrible, the vocals are so high in the mix, and everything is all so digital and fake sounding. I liked the songs i heard from the old album alot more.

[skateMASTERbater2]

i dont really like atryu, but nice review

[BuddyBigsby]

i just listened to bleeding mascara, it is meh. The production is horrible, the vocals are so high in the mix, and everything is all so digital and fake sounding. I liked the songs i heard from the old album alot more.

Yeah, that's exactly what I mean by the production. Sounds so fake.

[AsleepInChalkOutlines]

Does anyone elso think that Deanne the Arsonist number 5 from there previous album sounded a lot like The Hell Song in the beginning with the solo and everything.

[BuddyBigsby]

Does anyone elso think that Deanne the Arsonist number 5 from there previous album sounded a lot like The Hell Song in the beginning with the solo and everything.

Totally different.

[hybridofsound]

When I got Tell All Your Friends by TBS I was sent a Victory Records sampler disc which featured an Atreyu song from their first album. It pained me to have my headphones on for the 4 and a half minutes that song played. This has kept me well away from this band. You say there might be some improvement.. I really hope so.

As for your PTW comment at the begining of the review. PTW are one of the few hardcore bands to really push the boundries of the genre IMO so I disagree with that comment.

Review tip, paragraph the review a bit. It seems messy to read. The review however was well written and enjoyable to read just fix it up a bit.

[BuddyBigsby]

Oh no, don't get me wrong, I love Poison the Well, they are one of my favorite bands and I feel they're one of the most innovative in hardcore today. I was simply saying they're part of that group of that particular group of bands.

As for the paragraph... yeah, I know it's extremely sloppy, but I can't figure out how to organize it on MX. If you could help out that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[jversluis88]

Great review. I'll have to check them out.

[STFDood84]

Decent review, but IMHO The Curse is way more of a solid album than Suicide Notes. Lots of songs on SNABK were pure filler and/or just guitar riffs thrown together. The album is pretty listenable throughout, even if it is a little over-processed. And wow, have these guys improved their chops. Some sick leads and riffs throughout the album, and Alex's screaming/Brandon's singing are both far more consistent.

Bleeding Mascara, My Sanity On The Funeral Pyre, You Eclipsed By Me, The Crimson, Nevada's Grace, and Corseting are the best songs here, IMO, but the album itself is pretty solid altogether. The breakdowns are way better, the song structures flow better, and the ultra-cheesy trademark Atreyu choruses are catchier than ever (although Right Side Of The Bed sucks).

Some complaints? Obviously, it's not a SUPER amazing/special album. While the band is WAY better on their instruments than before, it's nothing truly groundbreaking, of course. And Alex should stop trying to shout/sing... he should keep to the screaming, and leave the overly-dramatic singing/harmonies to the drummer (who has thankfully improved in both vocal performance and in chops). Overall, job well done Atreyu.

Overall - 7.5/10

[BuddyBigsby]

I think the screaming and guitar have improved immensely, but they could've done so much more with it. "Nevada's Grace" is the worst song on the CD though, in my humble opinion.

[mattkim]

:P I got this album the day after it came out thinking it would be great. I still like the album. But it's not nearly what i expected...

I agree... "Right Side of the Bed" and "Nevada's Grace" suck

[inmystaticlullaby]

i was so exited the 29, atryeu's new CD!, i was even more exited when i got to the store and got a special limited edtion with a bonus track and enhancement, and i was also so exited to give away the cd after i heard it!
im jost joking, but i was very disapointed in it, but snabk is a hard cd to follow, all and all i give it a 5, not bad nothing to special

[cbmartinez]

Please learn how to spell.

[FrmAutumn2Ashes9]

ok well. this album just grew on me... i mean its no masterpiece, obviously. but its not that bad. well albums that grow on me are never masterpieces. cds that i just pop in for the first time and love are masterpieces IMO (avenged sevenfold - waking the fallen, prayer for cleansing - rain in endless fall, between the buried and me - the silent circus, and the list could go on and on). but anyways, i would have to say u cant even really compare SNABK with the curse. yeah u can tell its the same band from the vox, but u'd think something changed in all of them. first of all, like almost everyone said, the cd was way overproduced, and it was meant to appeal to the masses. i mean, the drummer does the chorus in EVERY track, except for Waking the Fallen,,,, i mean Blood Children... What a RIP OFF. completely. i know someone else said that. but when i first popped the curse in i was like wtf mate... so the whole formulated song thing, just kinda got on my nerves after awhile. instrumentally, i like it a lot. particularly My Sanity on a Funeral Pyre. thats so nice. also Five Vicodin chased w/a shot of clarity. good stuff there. i like harmonized guitars, and as u can get nowhere near SNABK with the harmonized guitar riffs, i guess these songs r decently close. lyrically, i like the whole vampire theme. i thought that was pretty cool. ALTHOUGH, IMO "A Vampire's Lament" cannot be topped. ok well i dont really know whatelse to say. i really dont think this THAT bad of an album... and i dont know why everyone hates Nevada's Grace so much lol. o well, maybe i'll hate it to someday.

i guess i cant argue. though. most MAJOR sophomore efforts result in things like this. the whole Singing part doing like 50-60% of the songs as opposed to the raw screaming. -- From Autumn to Ashes - TFWL, Alexisonfire - Watch Out, and Atreyu now... its not really a turn for the worst... i suppose. im in a band, and if u do something thats relatively the same as before, ur gonna wanna tweak it so that there's some difference in your songs. so i cant really blame them too much. you cant really do something great twice. unless your really talented. not saying that atreyu doenst have talent. its just a really hard thing to do. put out TWO GREAT albums in a row. we all expected something insanely awesome, but now we'll just appreciate SNABK and Fractures, a whole lot more i suppose. i didnt really like Visions so i wont include that.

enough of my rant. this is completely OPINIONATED... remember that. and as much as we alle xpected atreyu to out do suicide notes, did we really think that was possible? i really didnt. i just love A Vampires Lament, and Dilated too much.

[Guerrilla Soldier]

i dunno what you guys are talking about worse production quality....this thing was recorded flawlessly compared to suicide notes.

it feels like each member has grown and improved somewhat, but as a whole, i don't like it as much as suicide notes.... and something the lead growler said awhile ago pissed me off to the point i want to burn my atreyu shirts:
http://www.metal-sludge.com/Iann-TimeToDie.htm

[Xatreyu_gurlieX]

i love atreyu, n i will admit, i think they could possibly do better, i dont think the curse is as good as suicide notes and butterfly kisses, but i still think its realy good, i think it was money well spent when i bought the new album, catchy riffs, chorus's can be quite catchy aswell, i think that some of the lyrics are telling the same thing just with differant words, but none the less, still good.

[BuddyBigsby]

i dunno what you guys are talking about worse production quality....this thing was recorded flawlessly compared to suicide notes.

But the production on SNABK was just perfect. It was clear and the quality was still great and yet it was still raw. The Curse on the other hand sounds so pro-tooled and digital I feel like I'm listening to an Evanescence CD, production-wise.

[Guerrilla Soldier]

i dont think production on suicide notes was perfect (maybe what you consider perfect).... something about the drums on it has always bothered me....like they were recorded in a small seperate room where everything echoed and muddified it a little.....they dont blend in as well with everything else like it does on the curse.

suicide notes IS more raw, and if you like that, fine, that's your album..... but live, they blend in like they do on the curse.

[STFDood84]

Oh yeah :rolleyes:, (sarcasm) that buzzy, all-mids-and-bass-and-not-a-drop-of-treble guitar tone was really cool. And so was Alex's GARGLE (I mean, "scream"), and Brandon's cheesy, overly-melodramatic singing (drum flangers! Yeah!). And yeah, like half of the songs didn't sound interchangeable. And let's not forget those 3rd-grade style kiddie metal riffs!(/sarcasm) My kid brother could make better guitar parts than the ones on SNABK.

Call the new album overprocessed, not as good, etc... they're still FAR better and far more solid and consistent, musically. And Bleeding Mascara, This Flesh A Tomb, My Sanity, Nevada's Grace, Corseting, and You Eclipsed By Me rock my effin' socks off. Other than Lip Gloss, Vampire's Lament, Tulips Are Better, and Deanne, SNABK is WAAAAAAY overrated.

[thetallone64]

I thought that the cd was....um okay, but it sounded too overproduced. I think that Atreyu made a catchy sounding disc with songs that will probably get alot(if not too much) radio play. I'd give it a 6/10, only because the disc is soo f'ing catchy.

[radianteclipse]

I like this album, its a good album to crank up in the car on a short trip. My personal favorite song is the Remberance Ballad, because it sounds kind of like an 80s hair metal ballad. Kind of interesting. But overall, I can see what you mean by the overproduction. You can tell that his scream didnt get any better, they just overproduced it and you definately tell. Its not a great cd, but its not bad.

7/10

[A7X FFAF]

atreyu sucks. they suck even worse live. the singer doesnt even sound liek that. the steal music from other bands too. a song for the optomists was stolen from an inflames song. note for note. its true too, son dont reply saying no thats bull****, cuz iv'e heard it. atreyu blows. there fashioncore. not hardcore. even though most hardcore bands suck balls too.

[Sep]

Am I the only one who likes 'Right Side Of The Bed'? I just downloaded it and I think it's really good, I enjoy the screaming vocals a lot more than on SNABK and the drummer's voice got a lot better too. I think I might buy this album. :thumb:

[cbmartinez]

I enjoy Right Side of The Bed alot.

[Mr. Wenkie]

I don't understand why you people are hating on Atreyu so bad. I loved SNABFK and i just got The Curse the other day and it hasn't left my cd player yet. Their songs have taking a darker side than that on SNABFK and it's kind of got an 80's feel to it, but it's all in a good way. Bands grow and change but isn't that what music is all about? I mean if they came out with 5 of the same albums people would start criticizing for being too repetitive! The guitar work is amazing on this album, great leads, chunky rhythms and some pretty bad *** breakdowns. Alex's screaming has improved and i love brandon's voice on the chorus. Anyway, it's a great ablum and i suggest if you liked Atreyu's first release to pick this one up, it's only 11 bucks

[BuddyBigsby]

I'm not mad at them because this is different. I love it when bands experiment, it's just that Atreyu's experiment exploded in their face. I agree that the guitar work is pretty good, but they could have done so much more with it. To me it sounds like there was a lot of potential for a really good CD, and they just neglected it.

[mabba]

great know i have to take the atreyu sticker off my car for fear of being a loser. nah, i still like this band. suicide notes and fractures were a fresh of breath air when they were released. only heard a few tracks off the curse, hasn't really been on my mind as the cd to pick up this week.

[Guerrilla Soldier]

for it's first week, the album broke billboard top 40.

[cbmartinez]

atreyu sucks. they suck even worse live. the singer doesnt even sound liek that. the steal music from other bands too. a song for the optomists was stolen from an inflames song. note for note. its true too, son dont reply saying no thats bull****, cuz iv'e heard it. atreyu blows. there fashioncore. not hardcore. even though most hardcore bands suck balls too.

A) You suck.
B) I'd like to know what In Flames song they "stole" it from.

I listened to SNABK today and it really is a very good album. What made it good is that Atreyu kept their focus on what they wanted to do, without going off track or trying to showoff and do something amazing and flashy. They had it right. I can easily see how if they got to full of themselves, they would go out and try to do something "amazing" and fail.

[StephenTheGuitarist]

atreyu sucks. they suck even worse live. the singer doesnt even sound liek that. the steal music from other bands too. a song for the optomists was stolen from an inflames song. note for note. its true too, son dont reply saying no thats bull****, cuz iv'e heard it. atreyu blows. there fashioncore. not hardcore. even though most hardcore bands suck balls too.

Please die

[syrUsbilt]

Atreyu makes me ill. I've heard quite enough of them to know that I don't like them.

[RavenousMetalist87]

it feels like each member has grown and improved somewhat, but as a whole, i don't like it as much as suicide notes.... and something the lead growler said awhile ago pissed me off to the point i want to burn my atreyu shirts:
http://www.metal-sludge.com/Iann-TimeToDie.htm

I hate to break it to everyone but:

I strongly dislike Atreyu. I just feel they lack the energy and fire that some bands have today. To me, I hate the kind of screamo and emo meets hardcore fused into metal. They don't look metal to me...and why must they get played on Uranium, and Headbanger's Ball?

I don't mean to start a flame war, but this is just my solid and honest opinion. I am not a big screamo and emo fan. I just can't stand stuff because it seems that's the only thing people are into. I mean, I read the link Guerrilla Soldier posted.

"My beef is with "**** Metallica and **** Black Sabbath" and the "Those aren't my roots" claims. Now I don't know Alex, and based on his band I don't wanna know him, but he needs to understand that without those two bands, there would be no Atreyu, no Bleeding Through, none of these types of bands. I met the Bleeding Through guys and they seem to have a much clearer understanding of what the term "influences" really means and how their hybrid sound was influenced by bands like AF, Cromags, Cryptic Slaughter, Void, Negative Approach and that all those bands listened to Black Sabbath, old Metallica and early Slayer, bringing the feel of metal into punk rock and creating hardcore, which is basically a more violent form of late seventies punk rock. To say what he said shows quite clearly why Atreyu and most other bands in the so-called "hardcore" world suck today-they don't even understand the genre they're playing in. For those who don't know, Atreyu are one of the many bands that claim hardcore when really they just sound like average metal with some kid whining over it."

-Iann Robinson's article, A Time To Die (6/21/04)

I completely agree with Iann because Sabbath wasn't your average band. Tony Iommi completely brought the whole "Downtuning" thing into perspective (if you ask me because, who was the doomiest band at the time?)

Green Day a bigger influence on them? cool dude...but don't go whining to Sharon and Ozzy when you find Zakk Wylde threating you...

Sorry for my comments but I really think that was completely ignorant of Alex to say...What the hell was he even thinking?

[BuddyBigsby]

Alex is indeed an idiot. A nice idiot, but an idiot nonetheless.

[StarsXScars75]

man we are complete opposites on this cd! i haven't stopped listening to it all day. "right side of the bed" is just so **** catchy-- it's like 80's hair metal all over again. i love it!


Totally. I love that song. i think it's got this `80s kinda vibe. Wich is cool. Although, i DO think there's a certain lack of creativty on this record. I mean, although i wouldn't rate it as low as the guy who made the review, i do think a couple of songs DO sounda little bit alike to my tatse.
Oh well, it's just me. ;)

[RavenousMetalist87]

I wonder how everyone will react to Atreyu at this year's Ozzfest where I live.

I haven't seen a single metalhead here in my town say they liked them at all...

I wonder if they'll get booed so bad that Alex will try to start a fight with someone...

:rolleyes:

[BuddyBigsby]

I wonder how everyone will react to Atreyu at this year's Ozzfest where I live.

I haven't seen a single metalhead here in my town say they liked them at all...

I wonder if they'll get booed so bad that Alex will try to start a fight with someone...

:rolleyes:

Ozzfest is all nu-metal kids, and they eat up Atreyu like Danzig ate that guy's fist.

[RavenousMetalist87]

Ozzfest is all nu-metal kids, and they eat up Atreyu like Danzig ate that guy's fist.

lol...well eating up Atreyu sounds funny though

As for Ozzfest being all nu metal kids...I highly disagree. I've seen the specials about it and what it's like, and I don't recall seeing just "all nu-metal kids".

However, I could be wrong.

[wereallinflames]

I Bought SNABK after my friend had told me about atreyu. before then, i had never knew that they even existed. After listening to SNABK I was hooked on atreyu. They had even become one of my favorite bands! I haven't heard any of their other albums or singles or anything but I love SNABK. I think that today there are very few metal or hardcore bands because most of them have gone mainstream and sold out. My favorite band is In Flames and so far their albums have been awsome, but with their release of Soundtrack to your escape I think they didn't even come close to what they have been putting out the past couple of years. I also think that atreyu is the same way. I was going to buy this CD but after reading your review, it made me think twice about buying it. I am sure that atreyu's next album will be a lot better and they will make a great comeback...at least I am hoping they will!!

[DFelon204409]

This CD does sort of suck. "Bleeding Mascara" is freaking awesome though. The thing I loved about Atreyu was their ability to be melodic yet brutal throughout the song but then at the breakdown just throw in some random guitar riffs, often changing to a major scale and all of a sudden making the song sound happy for no reason. I liked that. It was less predictable than the crappier breakdowns found here.

[BuddyBigsby]

Whoa, DFelon likes some fashioncore. *rubs eyes*

[DFelon204409]

Whoa, DFelon likes some fashioncore. *rubs eyes*

Fashioncore music can be good. Just never the look or scene.

[cbmartinez]

This CD does sort of suck. "Bleeding Mascara" is freaking awesome though. The thing I loved about Atreyu was their ability to be melodic yet brutal throughout the song but then at the breakdown just throw in some random guitar riffs, often changing to a major scale and all of a sudden making the song sound happy for no reason. I liked that. It was less predictable than the crappier breakdowns found here.

I agree I love that happy punk progression in the end of Deanne the Arsonist backed by the tapping solo.

[TheFaceDivine]

I totally agree with this review, great job guy.

[BuddyBigsby]

Thanks man.

[lethal dose]

this cd is great

[capri sun junkie]

its alot different from suicide notes and butterfly kisses. but its alright in my book

[Deviate]

well i read up to the middle of page 2 and got bored.
I totally agree with what the bloke from atreyu said about metalica. **** them. i do not what any of this pretencious ****. all this being forever ****ing grateful for metalica. **** that, if they didnt do it someone else would of done, if not now eventually it would of happened. Its not like they are any good anyway right?
the curse was over produced, although apologising for being to "catchy" wtf. im sorry if you cringe because all the 12 year olds are crashing your scene. maybe you still want to be really cool and have your chosen genre remain underground".
Also if you bought a ****ing atreyu album did you not expect cheese? its a ****ing trademark, if you dont like it,or find it funny why did you buy the album?
Musically this album is better, however i find it on equal terms with snabk, replacing that raw, catchy rifts with cleaner cut more technical riffs.
It is rather annoying, whenever a band become more widely known (unless they are metallica, which must be good right?) and release a CD people have to cut them down for selling out. bull****. The only one who is selling out is the people who cant ****ing stand more people liking the particular genre, as they are no longer as "underground" and baddass.
i give this cd an 8/10. its no snabfk, but it marks progression within atreyu.
p.s im not 12, i havent just got into hardcore, and i dont die my hair black and have any piercing, just if you were wondering, i can however accept the growth of a band, and a genre.

[BuddyBigsby]

It took me about 15 minutes to understand this strange language you're speaking in, but I'll do my best.


the curse was over produced, although apologising for being to "catchy" wtf. im sorry if you cringe because all the 12 year olds are crashing your scene. maybe you still want to be really cool and have your chosen genre remain underground".

My scene? haha. Alrighty. Like I've mentioned before, two bands I enjoy thoroughly are The Offspring and Evanescence. I'm also a big Avenged Sevenfold fan and listen to a lot of the more popular 'core' bands. I can deal with a band being popular. I can't deal with a good band making terrible music.

Also if you bought a ****ing atreyu album did you not expect cheese? its a ****ing trademark, if you dont like it,or find it funny why did you buy the album?

I could deal with the cheesy lyrics. Are you forgetting the lyrics were just as bad on SNABK? That doesn't keep it from being one of my favorite albums. I mean, come on "Yesterday! I forgot to breathe! For like the 6th time this week!" I can deal with bad lyrics and I can deal with cheese as I listen to power metal and tough guy alike.

Musically this album is better

No.

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

I donno, I am more into metalcore music and heavy metal, Atreyu doesn't appeal to me, they sound whiney and just doesn't sound good, they aren't what i define as "metalcore"

My opinion no pestering it

[to_hell_we_ride]

ozzfest doesnt have any nu-metal this year at all. when asked why there wasn't any nu-metal sharon went "because we're not gay" ...she kinda forgot about rob halford at the time but the only thing that is kind of nu-metal this year is slipknot and those guys rip apart any korn and disturbed kids who dont know what metal is. atreyu is gonna get booed alot, mayb not enough to make alex pick a fight with someone, but alot. with bands lamb of god, hatebreed, and dimmu borgir there, your not gonna find alot of screamo kids there to support em, it'll be like when the datsuns and crazy town did ozzfest, its ***** metal.

[cbmartinez]

I listened to the album today. Sounded pretty horrible. Basically what you said, overproduced and such.

[BuddyBigsby]

What's with all these CDs you listened to today, Cb?

(I know I asked you the same thing in the Hardcore Education thread, so don't bother replying if you already answered there)

[NoMoreHate]

First of all, genre means nothing. **** it. If someone wants to call Atreyu hardcore then let them, people are obsessed with genres these days, it's all they care about. Someone is inventing a new one every second, and 'fashioncore' :p give me a break...

Secondly, there is no such thing as a band that sucks, or a **** band. There is only bands you enjoy listening to and bands you do not. Simply because you do not like what Atreyu play, doesn't mean it 'sucks' so stop being ignorant.

Personally, I class Atreyu as emo-metal. People usually here the term 'emo' and go into hater mode cos they are insecure. Alex writes lyrics about love, posession, paranoia, hatred and many more themes present on the album. The songs are amazingly constructed (imo) and are much more accessible to people less familiar with '_core' bands and screaming in music.

The stand out tracks on 'The Curse' are numerous, but the first release, 'Right Side Of The Bed' has an instantly catchy opening riff and chorus. 'Bleeding Mascara' is a heavier track, but with an emotional chorus to provide some variety. My personal favourite track is 'The Crimson', but other great songs include 'Demonology and Heartache' and 'Me eclipsed by you'.

An album definately only for the open-minded, but if you are someone that can appreciate emotion and power combined, you will LOVE this album :)

9/10

[TheOneThatBleeds]

yea

[cbmartinez]

yea

What an amazing post.

[BuddyBigsby]

First of all, genre means nothing. **** it. If someone wants to call Atreyu hardcore then let them, people are obsessed with genres these days, it's all they care about. Someone is inventing a new one every second, and 'fashioncore' :p give me a break...

Secondly, there is no such thing as a band that sucks, or a **** band. There is only bands you enjoy listening to and bands you do not. Simply because you do not like what Atreyu play, doesn't mean it 'sucks' so stop being ignorant.

Personally, I class Atreyu as emo-metal. People usually here the term 'emo' and go into hater mode cos they are insecure. Alex writes lyrics about love, posession, paranoia, hatred and many more themes present on the album. The songs are amazingly constructed (imo) and are much more accessible to people less familiar with '_core' bands and screaming in music.

The stand out tracks on 'The Curse' are numerous, but the first release, 'Right Side Of The Bed' has an instantly catchy opening riff and chorus. 'Bleeding Mascara' is a heavier track, but with an emotional chorus to provide some variety. My personal favourite track is 'The Crimson', but other great songs include 'Demonology and Heartache' and 'Me eclipsed by you'.

An album definately only for the open-minded, but if you are someone that can appreciate emotion and power combined, you will LOVE this album :)

9/10

I disagree strongly and would expose many things flawed in that BUT

It's good to have two different perspectives. Plus you didn't have any serious spelling or grammar errors, which is more than I can say for most people defending this album. Therefore, you are O-K.

[NoMoreHate]

I disagree strongly and would expose many things flawed in that BUT

It's good to have two different perspectives. Plus you didn't have any serious spelling or grammar errors, which is more than I can say for most people defending this album. Therefore, you are O-K.

Thankyou very much. I forgot to say you wrote a very good review (despite the fact I disagreed with it).

[spoon_of_grimbo]

before you lump me in with all those "adolescents" the reviewer mentioned, i would like to point out that, although i am 16, i have been listenin to all kinds of rock music, everything from pop punk through to heavy-as-f'uck death metal that borders on the unlistenable, for about 4 years, so my opinions are completely unbiased.

i'd never heard of atreyu until i heard "the crimson" on a sampler cd that came free with a magazine. the song caught my attention, but that was about it. that is until today when a mate brought the album to school and i listened to most of it, i thought it was great, although a bit "emo" (but not in a bad way). so i downloaded all of it, including the bonus track cover of bon jovi's "you give love a bad name" (which kicks arse, i might add). overall i wouldnt say this is the best metalcore album album ive ever heard (KsE and Shadows Fall easily beat Atreyu with their most recent albums), but it really isnt anywhere near as bad as most ppl on this thread seem to think.

btw, i did also download some of their older stuff, it seemed pretty directionless and bland generic hardcore. i much prefer this new album

[Shadows]

I've heard clips from several songs off the new album and thought they were horrible. The music just isn't something I would listen to. A big part of that was because the vocals were some of the worst I'de ever heard.

[Toozey]

Agayu

[TheMetalWorks]

Agayu
That was intelligent. =\

[blackbaccara]

ive been an atreyu fan since SNABK came out and i just recently got the curse. so far i tihnk the curse is pretty awesome, but i agree that it does sound very over-produced. i think the curse is the atreyu would have wanted SNABK to turn out, but they werent good enough yet (as theyve all obviously improved), and they said they had a lot less time with SNABK than they did with the curse (they wrote the songs in like 2 weeks). in any case while the curse can be repetative, i still think its a great cd and cant wait until their next cd. 9/10

[BuddyBigsby]

I seriously am very hard-pressed to understand how anyone can enjoy this.

[Sep]

I downloaded this and don't like it. The only songs I enjoyed were 'Bleeding Mascara' and 'The Crimson'.

[ch7-]

why did you give this album 4.5??

its so ****ing brilliant how cud u only giv it a 4.5 it mor lyk a 9

[Toozey]

That was intelligent. =\

Thanks.

[BuddyBigsby]

why did you give this album 4.5??

its so ****ing brilliant how cud u only giv it a 4.5 it mor lyk a 9

Brilliant? Stop listening to horse ****, kid.

[SubtleDagger]

I can sort of understand AILD, and maybe even some Poison The Well, but Atreyu's really the bottom of the barrel.

[Shadows]

Brilliant? Stop listening to horse ****, kid.
My thoughts exaclty.

No offense to anyone in particular but these guys blow.

[paco999]

D.A.M.N
I was expecting something better than "Suicide notes and Butterfly Kisses" but no
total opposite.
it just drags on

[osiecki]

The Curse is brilliant

[BuddyBigsby]

yeah, you probably said the same thing about Significant Other when it was the cool thing to like Limp Bizkit.

[From South of Heaven]

Atreyu is awesome, while The Curse is not as good as Suicide Notes and Buterfly Kises its still good

[capri sun junkie]

its alot different from suicide notes and butterfly kisses. but its alright in my book

:lol:

I guess I had a really shitty book back in the summer...

[BuddyBigsby]

haha, ah, memories.