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SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 06:25 AM
There was nothing good on the TV.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 06:25 AM
hahah "nike" sorry

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 06:25 AM
Its actually about 10 miles.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 06:27 AM
There was nothing good on the TV.
I watched Kill Bill 2 and Planes, Tranes, and Automobiles.

Bike. 10 miles isn't THAT bad. I'd bike 10 miles for a siqqq band. You could do the ride in an hour or so.

Dig the new title.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 06:28 AM
It's not 5 am yet

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 06:29 AM
i dig the avatar niko

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 06:29 AM
Not a bad idea actually, but I don't love suffokate that much. And if I see Bane on Friday I have to save up some money.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 06:31 AM
what time u guys going to hit the sack?

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 06:32 AM
It's not 5 am yet
The point is that we're up really late and conversing and it rhymes. **** YOU YOU ****ING NAY SAYER!

GIA are so sick. It took me a little while, but one night I listened to the EP all the way through (amazing right?) and it hit me how good it was. I then proceeded to listen to it 5 or 6 more times. Then I did the same with AB. I'm really getting into a lot of Rivalry bands lately. I'm listening to KTD right now, I'm gonna listen to MTP later, and then probably some Verse after that. Did you see my siqqq shirts?

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 06:32 AM
I dunno, when I'm tired enough I guess. The weird thing is that I was more tired at 10 o'clock tonight.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 06:34 AM
I woke up at 5:15 PM. I went to sleep around 8 AM.

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 06:36 AM
I went to sleep at 6 am, and woke up at 10 am. One of these nights I'm just going to pull an all nighter and sleep well the next night.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 06:36 AM
Jeez niko what do ur parents say about turning nocturnal?

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 06:38 AM
Jeez niko what do ur parents say about turning nocturnal?
They say "God, I should've had a blow job..."

Seriously though, I dunno. I'm never awake to talk to my mom, and my dad lives in Las Vegas.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 06:41 AM
you go out much?

you going away at all this summer?

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 06:43 AM
I go out sometimes. The guy I've been hanging out the most with this summer is at his dads right now, but when he gets back I'll probably start waking up earlier. I go to shows when I can. Speaking of shows, Thursday is gonna kick more *** than any of you can possibly imagine.

I hate leaving Davis. Granted, I hate Davis, I hate leaving it too.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 06:45 AM
whats thursday?

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 06:46 AM
Frontline Attack, Monster Squad, and Chaotic Alliance.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 06:46 AM
hey im hitting the sheet now talk to ya tommorow man

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 06:46 AM
See ya later Conner.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 06:50 AM
Frontline Attack, Monster Squad, and some other bands. I'm going with 3 friends, all of whom love both the afforementioned bands (or at least Monster Squad). The energy is gonna be great, and the circle pits will be greater. Us four are gonna dominate the pit. Fer sure.

What shows do you black negroes have coming up? I already know most of Mike's, so this is directed mainly towards Conner. I've got...

More to Pride, Carved Out, Countdown - July 15th

Shattered Realm, Death Before Dishonor, Ramallah - July 28th

Circle Jerks - July 29th

Guns Up! - August 9th

Throwdown, Remembering Never - August 12th

That's all I know of so far. More stuff will be announced though. It sucks that GIA skipped us, though it's not surprising in the least.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 06:50 AM
Keep it posi Conner. Oh well, my question will go unanswered.

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 06:52 AM
You going to DBS?

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 06:52 AM
Nah, PTW will bring a gay crowd.

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 06:54 AM
Truf.

I hope Wescoast Worldwide gets some more bands comin through in August.

JACK!
06-28-2005, 06:54 AM
Sup Niko? I got my Verse ticket earlier :)

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 07:00 AM
Well Niko, I'm going to maybe see whats on TV then fall asleep. Later.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 07:03 AM
They will, I'm sure.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 07:04 AM
Later Mike.

Jack, that show is gonna be so awesome. How was Terror? Has that happened yet?

JACK!
06-28-2005, 07:09 AM
It was amazing man, I had a blast. They played Push It Away last and the whole room was open and moving it was great. I picked up Piece By Piece on vinyl too.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 07:10 AM
Nice. When's Verse and AB?

JACK!
06-28-2005, 07:12 AM
It's not untill August so theres a bit of a wait, but I've got Agnostic Front and Murphy's Law before that to keep me going. You got any shows coming up?

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 07:16 AM
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8434051&postcount=21271

JACK!
06-28-2005, 07:21 AM
Nice. I'm not too keen on Throwdown but the other shows will be amazing.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 07:25 AM
I love Throwdown. Most people don't. Oh well, I'll have a good time at that one.

JACK!
06-28-2005, 07:26 AM
The covered Roots Bloody Roots when I saw them which was quite cool.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 07:28 AM
Who'd you see them with?

JACK!
06-28-2005, 07:28 AM
Lamb of God last year. To be fair they were the best band at the show by a long way.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 07:29 AM
Hahaha, any walls of death?

JACK!
06-28-2005, 07:34 AM
Haha they did do it actually, so what's happening with the whole Wall of Death thing now? Are they sueing the bands that called for it like what happened to DBS?

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 07:39 AM
I just read a thread in R&M about some guy dying in Germany during a wall of death.

JACK!
06-28-2005, 07:46 AM
That's sad, but when you take part in a wall of death in somewhere like Pressure Fest where there's that many people, it's pretty obvious that there's a possibility of injury. I just hope they don't blame the bands again.

cbmartinez
06-28-2005, 07:52 AM
lolz

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 07:59 AM
Oh my, someone else at this ungodly hour. How's it going CB?

cbmartinez
06-28-2005, 08:01 AM
Chillin', I'm about to get some x-rays.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 08:01 AM
What for?

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 08:21 AM
I missed the whole edge conv. youre all whores.

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 08:24 AM
Silly Brit.

I'm off to watch TV and if I get lucky I'll get tired. Later guys.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 08:31 AM
I totally hate the word British, just like i hate the words mate, arse, wanker, fit and just about any other national colloquialism i can think of. I still talk like a power ranger.

And like no-one Xs up here. my marker is going to waste writing phone numbers on bathroom doors.

sketchyjoe
06-28-2005, 08:50 AM
Go shove it up your arse you wanker.

Scabies
06-28-2005, 08:51 AM
I totally hate the word British, just like i hate the words mate, arse, wanker, fit and just about any other national colloquialism i can think of. I still talk like a power ranger.

And like no-one Xs up here. my marker is going to waste writing phone numbers on bathroom doors.

haha i use all those words well often. and i see loads of 'X'd up' faggots at London shows.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 08:56 AM
stuff being 'well' something theres another. man. nowhere near enough Xs. the only kids that do are like the 15 year olds watching fightstar thinking the Xs are like ,you know, emo kisses.

The only show that had a like a regular number for hardcore was champion last year.

Electric Ocean
06-28-2005, 09:45 AM
I totally hate the word British, just like i hate the words mate, arse, wanker, fit and just about any other national colloquialism i can think of. I still talk like a power ranger.

And like no-one Xs up here. my marker is going to waste writing phone numbers on bathroom doors.

Yeah, those words sort of grate on me a bit too, although "wanker" used correctly can be funny. Tosser is by far the worst one of those types of insults though.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 09:51 AM
just makes me think of those totally sickening HP ads. man. they actually make me depressed in a des and mel kinda way.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 10:19 AM
I've always paid more attention to the number of cool kids at shows rather than the number of X's. Who gives a ****? I could have cared less even when I was edge. It's a personal decision...so leave it at that.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 10:24 AM
pull the spear out your *** dude. were not trying to make some dumb elitist statement, its just like a tradition thats nice to uphold sometimes.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 10:25 AM
Are you going to keep the sell-out tradition going?

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 10:30 AM
EDgE iZ 4 FAgZZZ.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 10:31 AM
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being straight edge. I'm just saying that it shouldn't be such a big focus in hardcore. Keep it to yourself or let it out when you see your favorite straight edge bands. Everyone is in hardcore for different reasons.

cbmartinez
06-28-2005, 10:33 AM
Did you think about it that way when you were edge? I'm just wondering.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 10:35 AM
Everyone is in hardcore for different reasons.


truf. its not a big focus for me, you take alot of what i say way more seriously than i mean it.

It was nice to see kids X up for the champion show in the same way its nice to see ducks when i walk past the lake. Straight edge was born in the hardcore community, and it will probably die with it.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 10:37 AM
Hahahaha. I like the analogy.

In other news. I'm tired. I had to goto water polo from 5:30 to 8:00. I'm gonna leave pretty soon to get my paycheck and get some gas and see if Greene Records has the It's All Our Blood reissue.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 10:38 AM
you and your water polo.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 10:39 AM
Gettin a hot bod.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 10:49 AM
Wait, so you judge a show on how many people X up? Are the ones that X up the only true hardcore fans/straight edge kids?

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 10:50 AM
Did you think about it that way when you were edge? I'm just wondering.

I think that way and I'm edge. Not to be offensive or anything, but bragging about your lifestyle is kind of obnoxious. We can all get along whether you do drugs or not.

dislocated214
06-28-2005, 10:57 AM
Wait, so you judge a show on how many people X up? Are the ones that X up the only true hardcore fans/straight edge kids?
I know a lot of straight-edge kids, including myself, that don't X it up.

Johnny EPHC
06-28-2005, 10:58 AM
I always count x'ed up kids, too. I don't see how you can call x'ing up bragging about your lifestyle, that's like saying wearing a shirt of a band you like is bragging about liking them. No, it's just a statement about you, whether it's about what music you like or whether it's about the fact that you're proud of the way you live your life.

Then again, maybe I only count because it's actually possible to do so. Including myself, I saw three x'ed up people when I saw Bane. THREE. Straight edge kids seem to be a dying breed around here, and so I'm happy whenever I see someone willing to wear it on their hand AND their heart.

[/needless corniness]

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 11:00 AM
I always count x'ed up kids, too. I don't see how you can call x'ing up bragging about your lifestyle, that's like saying wearing a shirt of a band you like is bragging about liking them. No, it's just a statement about you, whether it's about what music you like or whether it's about the fact that you're proud of the way you live your life.

Then again, maybe I only count because it's actually possible to do so. Including myself, I saw three x'ed up people when I saw Bane. THREE. Straight edge kids seem to be a dying breed around here, and so I'm happy whenever I see someone willing to wear it on their hand AND their heart.

[/needless corniness]

Yes, it is. It's totally different then wearing a band shirt. It's making a statement, yes, that no one should really care about. It's the way they want to live, drugs or not.

Johnny EPHC
06-28-2005, 11:07 AM
It's not like x'ing up means you're pushing edge in everybody's face. It'd be bragging if you were a prick about it, but having x's on your hands doesn't mean you're bragging about anything. It's just an easy way of saying "this is me, this what I believe in".

shane italian
06-28-2005, 11:11 AM
I know a lot of straight-edge kids, including myself, that don't X it up.
Same here.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:12 AM
X'ing up IS bragging about being edge. That's why most people who have been edge for any decent amount of time usually don't X up. What is the actual purpose of X'ing up?

shane italian
06-28-2005, 11:13 AM
It's not like x'ing up means you're pushing edge in everybody's face. It'd be bragging if you were a prick about it, but having x's on your hands doesn't mean you're bragging about anything. It's just an easy way of saying "this is me, this what I believe in".I've never thought X'ing up was something that I agreed with.

That's like me plastering a republican tattoo on my forehead because it's something I believe in. (hypothetical scenario)

I'm not saying you're doing something wrong if you X up, but don't tell yourself you have more "heart" than the next guy for doing it.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:19 AM
I'm not saying you're doing something wrong if you X up, but don't tell yourself you have more "heart" than the next guy for doing it.

Tr00f

shane italian
06-28-2005, 11:20 AM
D'amnit. I went in to get my check and he said they'll be ready tomorrow. Wtf. I need it now.

Johnny EPHC
06-28-2005, 11:22 AM
I've never thought X'ing up was something that I agreed with.

That's like me plastering a republican tattoo on my forehead because it's something I believe in. (hypothetical scenario)

I'm not saying you're doing something wrong if you X up, but don't tell yourself you have more "heart" than the next guy for doing it.
I'm not saying it's wrong to be edge and not x up at all.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 11:25 AM
Wait, so you judge a show on how many people X up? Are the ones that X up the only true hardcore fans/straight edge kids?

learn to read.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:26 AM
I'm happy whenever I see someone willing to wear it on their hand AND their heart.

So do non-Xers not wear it on their heart?

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:29 AM
learn to read.

Oh haha, good one. Read yourown statements. If even you didn't mean to say it, you basically said you judge shows on how many X'ed up kids there are.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 11:29 AM
no. you are a belligerent jackass, stop trying to start fights through your own misunderstanding.

Johnny EPHC
06-28-2005, 11:30 AM
So do non-Xers not wear it on their heart?
They do, hence I said people willing to wear it on their heart AND on their hand, meaning those two things are not necessarily inclusive. Somebody x'ing up who doesn't feel it inside is a lot worse than somebody who believes in it not x'ing up.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 11:30 AM
its not a big focus for me, you take alot of what i say way more seriously than i mean it.

It was nice to see kids X up for the champion show in the same way its nice to see ducks when i walk past the lake. Straight edge was born in the hardcore community, and it will probably die with it.

there. jesus, that was like one page ago.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 11:31 AM
I decided not to get high today!

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 11:32 AM
ha,true till tomorrow.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:32 AM
no. you are a belligerent jackass, stop trying to start fights through your own misunderstanding.

How am I trying to start fights? I like Johnny Roddick, and I'm just having a conversation. Also, do you really think I don't understand straight edge and the hardcore scene?

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 11:34 AM
maybe, its just seemed pretty obvious what everyones saying. were all being pretty liberal, theres no douches pushing X UP OR SHUP UP in your face - you seem to be taking everything the wrong way.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 11:39 AM
ive just photoshopped this, gonna transfer it onto a shirt.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14877&stc=1

its gonna be sweet.

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 11:40 AM
All he said was that X'ing up is bragging and it really is. It's like the fu'cking missionaries who think that their religion is the only right way. There's other lifestyles than straight edge and they are just as valid...

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 11:41 AM
ive just photoshopped this, gonna transfer it onto a shirt.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14877&stc=1

its gonna be sweet.

That's really nice.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:41 AM
maybe, its just seemed pretty obvious what everyones saying. were all being pretty liberal, theres no douches pushing X UP OR SHUP UP in your face - you seem to be taking everything the wrong way.

It's just that most newer straight edge kids always seem so self-righteous, and a couple of things that were said sounded like it. No big deal.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 11:42 AM
as nice as this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/waterwingsend/bong.jpg

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:42 AM
All he said was that X'ing up is bragging and it really is. It's like the fu'cking missionaries who think that their religion is the only right way. There's other lifestyles than straight edge and they are just as valid...

Thank you.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:43 AM
as nice as this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/waterwingsend/bong.jpg

I see melted plastic Shane, you gonna get sick! Invest in glass, it's worth it.

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 11:48 AM
Thank you.

No problem man.

Shane, what stuff is in that dude?

Johnny EPHC
06-28-2005, 11:49 AM
ive just photoshopped this, gonna transfer it onto a shirt.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14877&stc=1

its gonna be sweet.
That's pretty **** cool.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 11:50 AM
No problem man.

Shane, what stuff is in that dude?As in what's in the bowl or how did I make it?

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 11:50 AM
As in what's in the bowl or how did I make it?

Yea man, how'd you make it? Well both actually...

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 11:51 AM
Expression of identity is not the same as bragging.The extremely rare occasion I X up im saying 'I am this' not 'I am this, I am better than you', infact its not even that serious as 'i am this' more, 'hey Im edge btw, youre not hey? no beef. were all bros here, lets wheelbarrow'.

Of course it varies depending on the douchebag qualities of whoes hand it is, but Im not gonna start changing because some retard thinks the black ink on his hand is his right to stomp down some kids face.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:52 AM
Fair enough.

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 11:53 AM
Expression of identity is not the same as bragging.The extremely rare occasion I X up im saying 'I am this' not 'I am this, I am better than you', infact its not even that serious as 'i am this' more, 'hey Im edge btw, youre not hey? no beef. lets wheelbarrow'

Of course it varies depending on the douchebag qualities of whoes hand it is, but Im not gonna start changing because some retard thinks the black ink on his hand is his right to stomp down some kids face.

Here's the thing, expression of identity (beliefs) is one thing. But when you start bragging about your LIFESTYLE there's an enormous difference. People have no right to go around saying they live a certain way, however people do have a right to express beliefs of theirs and are open for change or debate.
They're two totally different concepts.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:55 AM
I don't want any of you guys to ever get upset when me, shane or anyone else talks about drinking, smoking, etc...

shane italian
06-28-2005, 11:55 AM
Yea man, how'd you make it? Well both actually...Aquafina bottle, burn two holes in the bottle. Emtpy out a pen and wrap foil around one end in the form of a funnel for the bowl. Stick it in their and fill up to where the pen is sticking in the water. Light up and go.

And as for the weed in the bowl, we get some good stuff here in California.

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 11:56 AM
Aquafina bottle, burn two holes in the bottle. Emtpy out a pen and wrap foil around one end in the form of a funnel for the bowl. Stick it in their and fill up to where the pen is sticking in the water. Light up and go.

And as for the weed in the bowl, we get some good stuff here in California.

Quite ingenius really... Cool stuff man.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:56 AM
That plastic is gonna make you sick, just buy like a 15-20 dollar glass pipe. Plus they're much easier to carry around.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 11:56 AM
what? Hardcore is my lifestyle, you gonna start ripping on me for wearing my champion hood?

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 11:58 AM
what? Hardcore is my lifestyle, you gonna start ripping on me for wearing my champion hood?

No. You're expressing you like the band Champion, and you are a hardcore fan.

Eh, I don't know where I'm going with this. Basically I just don't like straight edgers that brag about their 'edge' and only hang out with people who don't do drugs.

That's all.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 11:58 AM
I'm the beligerrant one? You know what he meant.

EDIT: To Nate

shane italian
06-28-2005, 11:59 AM
I really need money. And I'm working from 2 to 6. What's everyone else doing today?

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 11:59 AM
I'm the beligerrant want? You know what he meant.

Thank you man.

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 12:00 PM
I really need money. And I'm working from 2 to 6. What's everyone else doing today?

I'm off work, so I'm just going to relax today, listen to music and eat cookie crisp man.

Where do you work?

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 12:00 PM
I don't want any of you guys to ever get upset when me, shane or anyone else talks about drinking, smoking, etc...

This is where the internet breaks down. Like all my friends drink/smoke etc, I rip on them, they rip me back. its all good fun.

Far as I can tell theres no hate-edge assholes on this board, but there seems to be alot of flack given to edge kids which is kinda uneeded. unless im taking it too seriously and being a dumb hypocrite.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 12:01 PM
Jamba Juice!

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 12:02 PM
. Basically I just don't like straight edgers that brag about their 'edge' and only hang out with people who don't do drugs.
.

like i said, is there even one of those people on this board?

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 12:04 PM
I have no idea man, but I think we've made some sort of common ground, lets just stop.

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 12:04 PM
Jamba Juice!

Better than fast food. Burger King sucks and I work 30 hours a week.

Johnny EPHC
06-28-2005, 12:05 PM
Here's the thing, expression of identity (beliefs) is one thing. But when you start bragging about your LIFESTYLE there's an enormous difference. People have no right to go around saying they live a certain way, however people do have a right to express beliefs of theirs and are open for change or debate.
They're two totally different concepts.Straight edge is a belief and a lifestyle.

I don't want any of you guys to ever get upset when me, shane or anyone else talks about drinking, smoking, etc...Dude, please. I have only one friend who is edge, everyone else drinks and smokes weed. One of my best friends broke a few weeks ago, did I stop being his friend? Hell no.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 12:05 PM
can we hold hands too?

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 12:06 PM
This is where the internet breaks down. Like all my friends drink/smoke etc, I rip on them, they rip me back. its all good fun.

Far as I can tell theres no hate-edge assholes on this board, but there seems to be alot of flack given to edge kids which is kinda uneeded. unless im taking it too seriously and being a dumb hypocrite.

We all take it a little too seriously, none of it means anything. None of us don't like the edgers, and we know the edgers probably don't hate us. About 90% of my friends in hardcore are straight edge/edge but don't claim.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 12:06 PM
I kind of lied about not getting high today. I'm gonna sleep soon. Or run on the treadmill.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 12:07 PM
Dude, please. I have only one friend who is edge, everyone else drinks and smokes weed. One of my best friends broke a few weeks ago, did I stop being his friend? Hell no.

Silly me, I can't believe I didn't remember that.

victimofreality
06-28-2005, 12:55 PM
X'ing up IS bragging about being edge. That's why most people who have been edge for any decent amount of time usually don't X up. What is the actual purpose of X'ing up?
What is the purpose of being edge if you keep it to yourself? Honestly, straight edge isn't somekind of thing that gives you inner strength at a personal level. I also pretty much never x up, but saying that you should never x up is like saying you are embarrassed for people to know that you are edge.

Speaking of which... I'm seeing Set It Straight again on thursday.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 12:57 PM
What is the purpose of being edge if you keep it to yourself?

Ummmm.....because it's just a personal choice? Does it matter if all the other kids know you're edge?

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 12:58 PM
What is the purpose of being edge if you keep it to yourself? Honestly, straight edge isn't somekind of thing that gives you inner strength at a personal level.

um, for me thats exactly what it is.I think were done with this one for now.

anyone else kinda wierded by there being nearly 22 thousand posts on this thread in the last year.

Johnny EPHC
06-28-2005, 01:21 PM
um, for me thats exactly what it is.I think were done with this one for now.

anyone else kinda wierded by there being nearly 22 thousand posts on this thread in the last year.
Not at all, at a soccer message board I go to, there used to be threads that would run 15,000 in under a month.

victimofreality
06-28-2005, 01:42 PM
um, for me thats exactly what it is.I think were done with this one for now.
What I mean is that there is a difference between not Xing up because there's really no need to, and not doing it because you think it is stupid. I'm just saying that it seems as if tons of people who are edge are embarrassed to show it, but classify it as them keeping it personal. **** trying to hide something you say is your lifestyle.

whiteminority
06-28-2005, 01:47 PM
But there is no reason to tell everyone that you are edge just because you can.

victimofreality
06-28-2005, 01:55 PM
Here's the thing, expression of identity (beliefs) is one thing. But when you start bragging about your LIFESTYLE there's an enormous difference.
What makes wearing X's bragging about your lifestyle, and not just being proud of it?

People have no right to go around saying they live a certain way, however people do have a right to express beliefs of theirs and are open for change or debate.
They're two totally different concepts.
How could you express your beliefs without saying what you believe? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I repeat, there is nothing wrong with having pride in what you believe.

In your logic, non-edge people should also not be able to say the way they live: this includes people not being able to say that they went out and got drunk one night or whatever. Thing is NO ONE CARES. If you really think that you should be the one to be able to determine who is showing off by doing what they believe in, you need to get the **** over yourself.

victimofreality
06-28-2005, 01:57 PM
But there is no reason to tell everyone that you are edge just because you can.
Yeah, well I tell people I am edge not because I can, but because I am.

Why should I feel bad about something I believe in?

Japan3gro
06-28-2005, 02:00 PM
Yeah, well I tell people I am edge not because I can, but because I am.

Why should I feel bad about something I believe in?

Nothing wrong with telling people if they are asking, but just randomly saying "hey I'm edge" wouldn't make sense.

victimofreality
06-28-2005, 02:03 PM
Saying that is different than showing it by Xing up.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 02:16 PM
Interpunk is awesome. My stuff didn't ship until yesterday and it's already here.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 02:20 PM
How long have you been edge Kasey?

sketchyjoe
06-28-2005, 02:33 PM
25 minutes.

RetiredAt21
06-28-2005, 02:34 PM
Hahaha, only 25 minutes?

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 02:43 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

RetiredAt21
06-28-2005, 02:45 PM
How long will it take you to break edge?

REINER
06-28-2005, 03:14 PM
I'm really getting into the newer Hatebreed.

Silvermedalmafia
06-28-2005, 03:16 PM
I got a question. Are public enemy as good as NWA, because I need a new cd sometime soon, and I want to know if I should pick up one of theirs.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 03:18 PM
You better believe they are, in some ways better.

Silvermedalmafia
06-28-2005, 03:20 PM
No, they cannot be better as none of them are actors now. You know my granny acted with Ice cube? In the movie "Are We There yet?" she was the little fat old lady.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 03:21 PM
hey i read all that edge convo and:

Kasey is right if you're going to be straight edge and go to hardcore shows wear the mark X. it's not bragging at all.

bragging would be doing it at school or the supermarket.

or at least X up when a straight edge band is playing.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 03:21 PM
Flava Flav was a reality tv star, and Chuck D has done everything.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 03:21 PM
I'm really getting into the newer Hatebreed.
Get on soulseek, my Rise of Brutality stuff acts retarded.

I back Conners new avatar, AMAZING band.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 03:24 PM
they rule eh bobby

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 03:26 PM
A cooler one would be the Tragedy bird.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 03:26 PM
Indeed, check out His Hero is Gone if you haven't already, I think it's the same members. Basically a less melodic Tragedy.

I hope Tragedy play Pointless Fest again this year.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 03:27 PM
Bob you like From Ashes Rise right?

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 03:30 PM
Love them. They're playing here in a few weeks but with bands I don't like.

Berserker!
06-28-2005, 03:30 PM
'Sup thread.

http://sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=2598&genreid=14

Read and comment.

shane italian
06-28-2005, 03:31 PM
Sup bros. Off to work.

Berserker!
06-28-2005, 03:31 PM
It's a hail and thunderstorm in the harsh London ghetto.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 03:32 PM
'Sup thread.

http://sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=2598&genreid=14

Read and comment.


You didn't say anything about the amazingness of Swan Song, and didn't even list it in reccomended songs.

Berserker!
06-28-2005, 03:32 PM
Each to their own, Patrick.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 03:33 PM
Who are you?

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 03:36 PM
your mom

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 03:36 PM
specialboy

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 03:37 PM
Who?

Berserker!
06-28-2005, 03:37 PM
Oh dear.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 03:38 PM
SpecialBoy

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 03:39 PM
GorrilaZ rule

REINER
06-28-2005, 03:41 PM
Get on soulseek, my Rise of Brutality stuff acts retarded.

I back Conners new avatar, AMAZING band.
I'm on. Do you know what tunning they use? Please tell me it's Drop C and not some gay tunning.

JACK!
06-28-2005, 03:43 PM
Hey Reiner what's your Soulseek name?

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 03:44 PM
I'm on. Do you know what tunning they use? Please tell me it's Drop C and not some gay tunning.
I think the early stuff is Drop D and the new stuff is Drop C.

I'm getting the album from TheBlackDahlia, thanks though.

REINER
06-28-2005, 03:46 PM
No problem. Tuning Down 2 Whole Steps (C,F,Bb,Eb,G,C), that is what a tab is saying, I'll just convert it to Drop C.

40 oz 2 freedom
06-28-2005, 03:48 PM
GorrilaZ rule

Word. "Gravity(Sound Check)" is probably one of the best songs EVER.

Berserker!
06-28-2005, 03:50 PM
Wait, are they those dicks with Damon Albarn in?

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 03:52 PM
guys i need some new bands to check out gimmie some that you think i wouldnt have listened to yet

Berserker!
06-28-2005, 03:54 PM
Where's Scott got to? I haven't seen him in ages around here.

Electric Ocean
06-28-2005, 03:55 PM
BuddyBigsby yeah? I saw him post something saying he was going away for a week a few days ago.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 03:56 PM
guys i need some new bands to check out gimmie some that you think i wouldnt have listened to yet
Aus-Rotten and Behind Enemy Lines since you seem to be getting into crusty stuff. Same vocalists in both of them.

Berserker!
06-28-2005, 03:59 PM
Try The Power And The Glory, Conner.

http://www.maximumpunkrock.com/pgmain.html

They're teh crust.

REINER
06-28-2005, 04:00 PM
Ignite - 90's hardcore-ish (Veteran, Bullets Incuded..., Run)
Nothing Left to Mourn - Heavy **** (True Colors, Not Alone)
Strength 691 - Melodic stuff from the early 90s (Cold Silence, The Other Side)
Strife - Slightly heavy 90's hardcore (Blistered, Will to Die)

I have it all on soulseek.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM
06-28-2005, 04:02 PM
Where's Scott got to? I haven't seen him in ages around here.
I was wondering the same thing

Berserker!
06-28-2005, 04:03 PM
This thread > The Punk Community Thread

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 04:04 PM
Ignite - 90's hardcore-ish (Veteran, Bullets Incuded..., Run)
Nothing Left to Mourn - Heavy **** (True Colors, Not Alone)
Strength 691 - Melodic stuff from the early 90s (Cold Silence, The Other Side)
Strife - Slightly heavy 90's hardcore (Blistered, Will to Die)

I have it all on soulseek.
Strife are good. I'll d/l the stuff now.

and bob arnt aus rotten some street punk band?

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 04:04 PM
Truf, nobody posts there anymore.
858 snypa mo****a.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 04:05 PM
This thread > The Punk Community Thread
I used to post in that when I first came here but rarely even look in it now.

RetiredAt21
06-28-2005, 04:05 PM
Post where?

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 04:05 PM
ive just printed this onto a shirt, the red has come out pink. keep or bin?

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14879&stc=1

I already look enough like a scenefag. The bane print came out awesome though.

ps for conner - www.myspace.com/novembercomingfire.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 04:05 PM
and bob arnt aus rotten some street punk band?
They're a crusty punk band. Do you have AIM? I could send you 2 or 3 songs.

RetiredAt21
06-28-2005, 04:06 PM
Aus Rotten are awesome. I love crust.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 04:07 PM
They're a crusty punk band. Do you have AIM? I could send you 2 or 3 songs.
i got a song d/lin' now.

RetiredAt21
06-28-2005, 04:08 PM
Aus Rotten are from PA right?

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 04:08 PM
I always thought NY but I may be wrong.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 04:08 PM
What one? I think The System Works for Them is their best song.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 04:09 PM
Aus Rotten are from PA right?
Yeah, Pittsburgh or the suburbs there.

RetiredAt21
06-28-2005, 04:09 PM
That's cool. I don't know of too many good bands that have come out of PA. The only ones I really know of are Aus Rotten and Vincent Price's Orphan Powered Death Machine.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 04:17 PM
Kid Dynamite
Paint it Black
All Else Failed
Turmoil
Punishment
Blacklisted

I know bands from Philly, not many from other places though.

Electric Ocean
06-28-2005, 04:24 PM
I was wondering the same thing


I'm going to be in NYC from June 30th to July 7th

He said he was going somewhere before that too I think so mystery over, I guess...

Berserker!
06-28-2005, 04:25 PM
But.. it's June 28th today.

Electric Ocean
06-28-2005, 04:26 PM
Yeah I realised and did a ninja edit, I was online when he said he was leaving though but I couldn't find the exact post.

Nataroo
06-28-2005, 04:28 PM
Vincent Price's Orphan Powered Death Machine. best.name.ever.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM
06-28-2005, 04:37 PM
Maybe he was killed

SunnyDayRealEstateAM
06-28-2005, 04:40 PM
Or maybe he was butt raped.....

JACK!
06-28-2005, 04:42 PM
Or maybe he went to NYC for a few days...

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 04:53 PM
""Against the grain, that's where I'll stay.""

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 05:01 PM
Bad Religion are awesome, I haven't listened to them in a long time.

REINER
06-28-2005, 05:01 PM
2nd best band ever.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 05:02 PM
Whats the first? Minor Threat?

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 05:04 PM
Yes.

REINER
06-28-2005, 05:08 PM
Dead Kennedys
Bad Religion
Minor Threat

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 05:14 PM
Minor Threat and Kid Dynamite are my favorites.

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 05:16 PM
Dead Kennedys
Bad Religion
Minor Threat

Reiner has it perfectly.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 05:17 PM
Reiner you should get some sweet DK back patches and stick them on your coat.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM
06-28-2005, 05:17 PM
My favorites tend to change.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 05:19 PM
Dead Kennedys
Bad Religion
Minor Threat

Reiner has it perfectly.
Isn't GB your favorite?

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 05:22 PM
Isn't GB your favorite?

Yes, bro. I just meant in those bands.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM
06-28-2005, 05:23 PM
It sucks that Dead Kennedys are re-united and touring with out Jello. I love the Dead Kennedys but they need Jello.

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 05:23 PM
It sucks that Dead Kennedys are re-united and touring with out Jello. I love the Dead Kennedys but they need Jello.

I don't think I'd ever see DK without Jello.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 05:24 PM
hey everyone add my new soulseek

CONNER

keep my old one too.

its cause i just got a new comp and its easier with itunes and all.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 05:26 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't either, it'd just feel weird. Just like i'd never see the Misfits now.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM
06-28-2005, 05:27 PM
I don't think I'd ever see DK without Jello.
Same here

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 05:27 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't either, it'd just feel weird. Just like i'd never see the Misfits now.

Exactly. And then if DK decided to recruit Jello back, and you saw the other band it would ruin the experience.

ya know what i'm sayin?

SactoUnited
06-28-2005, 05:29 PM
Man Victory used to have some great bands. They even had an oi! band, the Cockney Rejects.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM
06-28-2005, 05:29 PM
I hear you

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 05:30 PM
Okay, I'm going to go walk my dog. He's a Bischon Frise, cutest little guy, my best friend.

See you all later.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 05:31 PM
"toe jam" smells real real bad

SunnyDayRealEstateAM
06-28-2005, 05:31 PM
I can't beleive the other Dk members were going to let Levis use Holiday in Cambodia for a commercial. Take about hypocricy, well at least Jello still has a brain.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 05:32 PM
This city is going to be nuts this weekend, and I don't wanna be anywhere near that Live 8 thing. I'm thinking of going to another show that night.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM
06-28-2005, 05:36 PM
Then friend told me that they didn't hate Jerry Brown, they just needed some one to pick on as a joke.

REINER
06-28-2005, 05:47 PM
He lied to you. I saw DK without Jello, got tickets before I knew he wasn't going to be playing, I went anyway just to watch East Bay Ray play.

Saw the Misfits too, they are terrible. good thign I didn't go to that show to see them.

Brain Toad
06-28-2005, 05:57 PM
I'm pretty sure they hated Jerry Brown, he was the governor at the time and pretty crappy, like most CA governors, we suck at electing governors, and senators Feinstein and Boxer are cunts.

REINER
06-28-2005, 05:59 PM
Feinstein, Jello talks about here in Night of the Living Rednecks right?

Brain Toad
06-28-2005, 06:01 PM
She's not mentioned, but there is a live version of Police Truck which he dedicates to Feinstein and calls her a 'dragon lady with no ****ing heart" but that was when she was mayor of SF. He ran against her in the 1979 mayoral election.

Night of the Living Rednecks is about how stupid people who live in Oregon are.

REINER
06-28-2005, 06:03 PM
That is what I was thinking of, I remember the 'dragon lady' and NotLR was the only song that came to my head when I was trying to remember stage banter.

Brain Toad
06-28-2005, 06:07 PM
Everytime my Government teacher said her name, that part popped into my head.

JACK!
06-28-2005, 06:29 PM
Man Victory used to have some great bands. They even had an oi! band, the Cockney Rejects.

The Cockney Rejects are great. I prefer Sham 69, but they're both great.

StrivingForChange
06-28-2005, 06:54 PM
The Cockney Rejects are great. I prefer Sham 69, but they're both great.

Sham > CR

Both good.

Forest_Fire
06-28-2005, 07:27 PM
Everytime my Government teacher said her name, that part popped into my head.


http://www.comunica.unisinos.br/zumzine/_clipes/index.clipes.htm

scroll down a bit and to the left

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 07:32 PM
Holy s'hit, guess who's playing Hellfest?

Forest_Fire
06-28-2005, 07:33 PM
Marathon?

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 07:35 PM
public enemy
^^^

Johnny EPHC
06-28-2005, 07:36 PM
**** Sparrer > both

sketchyjoe
06-28-2005, 07:38 PM
Truth.

JACK!
06-28-2005, 07:40 PM
NewKind, you listen to Born From Pain yet?

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 07:48 PM
Yeah, I liked them a lot. Any other releases by them worth getting?

JACK!
06-28-2005, 07:52 PM
Well the other two I have are both great. Reclaiming the Crown is better than Sands of Time though. I hear they have one other release, but I'm still yet to find it.

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 08:02 PM
Alright, thanks. I'm getting Reclaiming the Crown off of you now.

REINER
06-28-2005, 08:06 PM
Yeah I heard about PE, didn't think it was true though. Still no list yet.

xcbmetalcorex
06-28-2005, 08:24 PM
Jun Jun Weee

xcbmetalcorex
06-28-2005, 08:26 PM
How long am I banned for, Reindeer?

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 08:27 PM
Yeah I heard about PE, didn't think it was true though. Still no list yet.
I saw a list, it was only 15 or 20 more bands and 3 good ones, i'll go find it.

REUNION SHOWS:

* Public Enemy
* Killing Time

HELLFEST 2K5 BAND LINE UP ROUND THREE:

* 3 Inches Of Blood
* Alove For Enemies
* All That Remains
* Armsrace
* Backstabbers Inc.
* Casey Jones
* Cannae
* Chimaira
* Dead Hearts
* Hit The Lights
* Ion Dissonance
* Kane Hodder
* Kids Like Us
* Nobody Left Behind
* One Dead Three Wounded
* Ready Set Fail
* Six Feet Under
* Suffocate Faster
* This Is Hell
* Walk The Line

xcbmetalcorex
06-28-2005, 08:33 PM
Reiner, unban me, I got banned for bashing The Used. I should be commended.

Johnny EPHC
06-28-2005, 08:49 PM
Reiner, unban me, I got banned for bashing The Used. I should be commended.
I'll second this.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 08:57 PM
haha cbmetalcore

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 09:04 PM
I woke up like 10 minutes ago.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 09:06 PM
omfg niko thats so stupid

NewKindofArmy03
06-28-2005, 09:08 PM
Haha, did you sleep all day?

nosirimnotoopythanksforasking
06-28-2005, 09:10 PM
I'm about to have a tasty Hot Pocket for breakfast.

I went to sleep at like 7:30 AM.

CONNER_NWHC
06-28-2005, 09:19 PM
you're a vampire.