Hardcore Community Thread

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Hm, I don't get it. But Everytime I Die is metalcore buddy.

[TheYellowDart]

by the way metal wins the giutarist from all that remains wins

[Sex Pistols]

by the way metal wins the giutarist from all that remains wins
Get out

[TheYellowDart]

like seriously or is that an expression?

[Sex Pistols]

like seriously or is that an expression?
:lol: why do you metal heads come in here and post??

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

:lol: why do you metal heads come in here and post??
The kid's not too smart, but he was just asking a question, give him a break...

[Sex Pistols]

:lol: <--- i know


ahhh...


so high..

[DFelon204409]

Sex Pistols...I need to know what is going on in your avatar. It seems like a 2 human 1 Pikachu bestiality orgy. Eiffel tower style.

[DFelon204409]

The new DRACULACORE song is up. www.hxcmp3.com/bands/12660

Direct comments to the audio arena please. I won't be checking here I don't think.

[syrUsbilt]

HOLY CRAP I HAVE THOSE PAJAMA BOTTOMS! AND I SHAVE! Weird.

[DFelon204409]

HOLY CRAP I HAVE THOSE PAJAMA BOTTOMS! AND I SHAVE! Weird.

It's the second image when you search for google images at "shaved." it's not even a band member or anything. We are far hotter than that.

[syrUsbilt]

OH GOD WHAT IF ITS ME!

caps lock is addicting.

[BuddyBigsby]

Folly this Saturday. God yes.

[fisticups]

what would you consider the Circle Jerks, then.

i've always considered them hardcore.

i wouldnt go as far as calling them hardcore but i would call them street punk.

[fisticups]

you put Every time i die in the matal core side why?, i was watch the episode of uranium where is hard core vs matal arm wresleing and every time i die was on hardcore and they sound more hardcore than metalcore abiding by the way you discribe the two catigories was that a typo is not explain wy its not


ok dude this is why u dont get ur info from know it alls. hardcore is all about the attidude and not just the sound of the music. there is a grey area between hardcore and metalcore. metalcore sounds more like metal ( high pitch squeels, guitar solos, etc.) hardcore has more punk and street influences. hardcore is upfront no bells and whistles. plain and simple

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

ok dude this is why u dont get ur info from know it alls. hardcore is all about the attidude and not just the sound of the music. there is a grey area between hardcore and metalcore. metalcore sounds more like metal ( high pitch squeels, guitar solos, etc.) hardcore has more punk and street influences. hardcore is upfront no bells and whistles. plain and simple
No, hardcore is not about the 'attitude'...

[Sex Pistols]

i wouldnt go as far as calling them hardcore but i would call them street punk.
Circle Jerks are hard core.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Circle Jerks are hard core.
Yes.

[cbmartinez]

I listened to Silent Drive and Scars of Tomorrow. Both sound really good, especially Silent Drive. They sound really raw and emotional.

[STAYGOLDXXX]

who cares and etid is not even close to metal

[shane italian]

who cares and etid is not even close to metalThey aren't very close to hardcore.

[AndHagan1]

etid?

[Sex Pistols]

who cares and etid is not even close to metal
who?

[shane italian]

who?Every Time I Die

[REINER]

Smaller local shows are so much better than bigger shows with stages and what not.

[BuddyBigsby]

I listened to Silent Drive and Scars of Tomorrow. Both sound really good, especially Silent Drive. They sound really raw and emotional.

Scars of Tomorrow have awesome breakdowns and lots of potential... other than that I can't stand them. It's like they could be way better but they're holding back. Aside from a couple songs, they bore me to no end.

Silent Drive are amazing. I still need to review that CD. God I suck.

[syrUsbilt]

who cares and etid is not even close to metal

I'd say metalcore. As in metal and hardcore fused together. They are more on the metal side. They are pretty close to metal if you ask me.

[Gotkookie]

I'd say metalcore. As in metal and hardcore fused together. They are more on the metal side. They are pretty close to metal if you ask me.
etid is NOT hardcore, metalcore fo sho :smoke:

[syrUsbilt]

etid is NOT hardcore, metalcore fo sho :smoke:

noone said they were.

[Gotkookie]

noone said they were.
someone earlier in the thread said they were more hardcore.

[syrUsbilt]

someone earlier in the thread said they were more hardcore.

if we are looking on the scale




....................................METALCORE
..........................................|
METAL |----------------------|--*-------------------|HARDCORE

they'd be right there. Because they are slightly reminicent of hardcore but still way metalcore.

[syrUsbilt]

YES THERE IS AN ACTUAL SCALE.


tools.

[TheYellowDart]

why is it catigorized any ways, does it realy piss you off if music you like is catigorized wrong, the worlds not gona end lets just leave it as music is either good or bad depending on the talent and effort that is put into it

[TheYellowDart]

Scars of Tomorrow have awesome breakdowns and lots of potential... other than that I can't stand them. It's like they could be way better but they're holding back. Aside from a couple songs, they bore me to no end.

Silent Drive are amazing. I still need to review that CD. God I suck.


its not called a breakdown its called a brigde educate yourself in the format of music before you post

[thenotsofatmatt]

please dont be an idiot.

[young, loud and andrew]

I'M BACK!!!

i hope you all missed me terribly.


these are the bands i've been listening to recently: With Honor, Comeback Kid, Champion, Bane, Good Clean Fun, Terror, Stretch Arm Strong, Scraps and Heart Attacks, Give Up The Ghost, Gorilla Biscuits, The Bars, Carry On, 7 Seconds, Minor Threat, Black Flag, Shai Hulud, and Say Anything (not hardcore, but ****ing amazing).

[young, loud and andrew]

Does anyone have the new Champion album? If so, is 'The Decline' re-recorded, or live or what? Because I downloaded a version of it, and it sounds pretty shitty. I hope they didn't screw it up, that's my favourite Champion tune...


i've got it... i can send it to you when i get home from vacation in a week. i think the new version of "the decline" is pretty good. the gang vocals are certainly strong than the "count our numbers" version. i can't pick which i like better though.

[cbmartinez]

I'M BACK!!!

i hope you all missed me terribly.


these are the bands i've been listening to recently: With Honor, Comeback Kid, Champion, Bane, Good Clean Fun, Terror, Stretch Arm Strong, Scraps and Heart Attacks, Give Up The Ghost, Gorilla Biscuits, The Bars, Carry On, 7 Seconds, Minor Threat, Black Flag, Shai Hulud, and Say Anything (not hardcore, but ****ing amazing).

I like the Bars. The band on Equal Vision right?



And I'm starting to like Bleeding Through... :upset:

[young, loud and andrew]

I like the Bars. The band on Equal Vision right?



And I'm starting to like Bleeding Through... :upset:

yeah... ex-give up the ghost/american nightmare guys.

Bleeding Through is decent, but i don't listen to them very often.


also, check out this band: thisishell.org . it's a side project (actually full time now that Travis left Scraps and Heart Attacks) of a bunch of guys from Long Island hardcore bands. They have a demo out and a 7-inch coming in the fall.

[cbmartinez]

yeah... ex-give up the ghost/american nightmare guys.

Really? Sweet.

[young, loud and andrew]

not Wes though. he's in a grind band called Daughters now. i don't really like them though. i think their drummer is in the Locust.

[cbmartinez]

Whoa, whoa. This is all new to me. Daughters just came out with their first CD so I could see Wes joining them but The Locust have been around for a bit, so unless they kicked out their drummer for GUTG's drummer, I don't see how that fits.

[dkpinhead]

not Wes though. he's in a grind band called Daughters now. i don't really like them though. i think their drummer is in the Locust.
Have you seen Daughters live? They own.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

its not called a breakdown its called a brigde educate yourself in the format of music before you post
Idiot.

[young, loud and andrew]

Whoa, whoa. This is all new to me. Daughters just came out with their first CD so I could see Wes joining them but The Locust have been around for a bit, so unless they kicked out their drummer for GUTG's drummer, I don't see how that fits.

i just thought he was in the band... maybe i'm mistaken. i definitely think wes is in daughters though.


i haven't seen them live--i've only heard a few of their songs. maybe i should give them another listen.

[cbmartinez]

Check out "Mike Morowitz, The Fantasy ****" and "And Then The C.H.U.D.S. Came" both available at www.purevolume.com/daughters. Check out www.purevolume.com/thelocust too.

[PunkGuitarist]

All grindcore bands do is make me angry.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

All grindcore bands do is make me angry.
All you do is suck pen0r.

[TrinityBombshell]

I was just in the Metal forum (where i regularly post at) but one thing makes me angry about those guys. I like their tastes in music as much as I like punk and stuff, but it seems to me like they are much less understanding of new music. Like over here, you can talk about metalcore/hardcore as much as punk/ska, but over there, if you talk about anything other than "true" metal bands, they flame you. If its anything new other than Black Label Society, it seems like they flame you. I guess this seems like mindless bitching, but I'm glad for this thread.

[DFelon204409]

Scroll down to #67 http://www.hxcmp3.com/chart.php?order=1&pagebreak=100&pagenum=1

I believe that catapults us ahead of some Circle Takes the Square, Ion Dissonance, They Came Burning, and Casey Jones. Bahahaahhahahaha. Too bad it'll only last a day.

[young, loud and andrew]

Scroll down to #67 http://www.hxcmp3.com/chart.php?order=1&pagebreak=100&pagenum=1

I believe that catapults us ahead of some Circle Takes the Square, Ion Dissonance, They Came Burning, and Casey Jones. Bahahaahhahahaha. Too bad it'll only last a day.

Hey man... i saw you are going to Williams--Have Fun! I think I want to go ED to Bowdoin.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Scroll down to #67 http://www.hxcmp3.com/chart.php?order=1&pagebreak=100&pagenum=1

I believe that catapults us ahead of some Circle Takes the Square, Ion Dissonance, They Came Burning, and Casey Jones. Bahahaahhahahaha. Too bad it'll only last a day.
:lol: :smoke:

[BuddyBigsby]

its not called a breakdown its called a brigde educate yourself in the format of music before you post

Hahaha, the irony of that statement is absolutely hillarious.

[NewKindofArmy03]

have you decided what the next acapellica song is?

[BuddyBigsby]

not Wes though. he's in a grind band called Daughters now. i don't really like them though. i think their drummer is in the Locust.

....No. Wes is in Some Girls now, dude.

[BuddyBigsby]

have you decided what the next acapellica song is?

I'm letting people vote, go to the Purevolume page and look at the choices and email me if you want to cast a vote. Slayer is winning.

[NewKindofArmy03]

yes! that's who i want to win. ok, i'll e-mail you now.

[Volume8]

Bah,

I remember the days when everything wasn't thiscore and thatcore im so and so edge with an X.... what a load of ****

[shane italian]

Bah,

I remember the days when everything wasn't thiscore and thatcore im so and so edge with an X.... what a load of shitAnd I remember when rock and roll was just rock and roll. Whatever man.

[Volume8]

Everyones ****ing obsessed with labels nowadays, everything has to be bundled in catagorys and sub genre's. What's the point, Straight edge people, nothing wrong with them, up untill now... Now its not a personal choice its a fashion statement. Printed on t-shirts with less than witty gimics.

Punk Is Dead
Punks Not Dead
Straight Edge
[Insert name] Core

[BuddyBigsby]

Would you like some cheese to go with that whine?

[Volume8]

Would you like some cheese to go with that whine?

Would you like some witt to go with that stale humour

[shane italian]

Everyones ****ing obsessed with labels nowadays, everything has to be bundled in catagorys and sub genre's. What's the point, Straight edge people, nothing wrong with them, up untill now... Now its not a personal choice its a fashion statement. Printed on t-shirts with less than witty gimics.

Punk Is Dead
Punks Not Dead
Straight Edge
[Insert name] CoreI don't really go along with the core stuff...hardcore and metalcore do it for me.

And who cares about straight-edge being printed on shirts? It's something to take pride in.

[BuddyBigsby]

Would you like some witt to go with that stale humour

Haha, good point.

[Volume8]

Bah,

Im disgruntled at the fact that things are being turned into a fad, Saw one of those twat kids the other day with a "Straight-Edge, To try it is to like it" shirts.....

Smoking a ****in ciggarete, See these are principles that the select few hold high, and they are being **** on by knobs with a new trend to follow.

[shane italian]

Bah,

Im disgruntled at the fact that things are being turned into a fad, Saw one of those twat kids the other day with a "Straight-Edge, To try it is to like it" shirts.....

Smoking a ****in ciggarete, See these are principles that the select few hold high, and they are being **** on by knobs with a new trend to follow.Everything is turned into a fad, doesn't mean that it's not actually there in people's hearts.

[Volume8]

This is true,

Its irritating to see people waslking around with these t-shirts and spurting out slogans when they don't actually know the real meaning, Proves how incredibly ignorant people are.

[shane italian]

This is true,

Its irritating to see people waslking around with these t-shirts and spurting out slogans when they don't actually know the real meaning, Proves how incredibly ignorant people are.Yeah, I know what you mean. I met a kid once who bought a straight edge shirt because it had X's on it.

[Volume8]

Haha,

Yep, their the ones. Well best thing that can be done is ignore it and wait for the fad to pass, If it does pass that is.

Although i despise waiting for things to correct themselves..... Time takes too long heh

[young, loud and andrew]

....No. Wes is in Some Girls now, dude.

me=owned.



i think i meant to say that but "daughters" came out by accident.



everyone go check out This Is Hell... www.thisishell.org

[NewKindofArmy03]

they're pretty good. check out These Days, they're on the same label as them.

[shane italian]

they're pretty good. check out These Days, they're on the same label as them.These Days make me wanna rip someone's face off.

[NewKindofArmy03]

yeah, especially "this is ours". they need a full-length out now.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Post a link to their site. I heard them a while ago but I don't think I have their songs on my computer...

[shane italian]

www.thesedayshc.com

[TrinityBombshell]

A lot of things have turned into a fad. As long as you don't follow it what does it matter anyway. And by the way, I read in a book once (no I dont believe everything I read but I kinda believe this) that there was a place in California where straight edge people would go and drink. There's hypocrites all around us, as long as we don't buy into their bullsh!t theres no problem.

[fisticups]

Circle Jerks are hard core.

u may see circle jerks as hardcore but from what ive heard from them it doesnt sound at all hardcore.

[syrUsbilt]

Bah,

I remember the days when everything wasn't thiscore and thatcore im so and so edge with an X.... what a load of ****

Yeah, screw edge, I'm gonna go get an anarchy tattoo. I hate you.

[shane italian]

u may see circle jerks as hardcore but from what ive heard from them it doesnt sound at all hardcore.You may claim to know what you're talking about but from what I've read you don't know at all.

[fisticups]

ok dude this is why u dont get ur info from know it alls. hardcore is all about the attidude and not just the sound of the music. there is a grey area between hardcore and metalcore. metalcore sounds more like metal ( high pitch squeels, guitar solos, etc.) hardcore has more punk and street influences. hardcore is upfront no bells and whistles. plain and simple


let me correct myself. the way the music sounds IS the most important thing but attitude is important as well.but my definitions of the genre stand.

[fisticups]

You may claim to know what you're talking about but from what I've read you don't know at all.

1. dont judge me 2. just because i dont feel that the circle jerks are hardcore doesnt give u the right to say that i dont know what im talkin about

[NewKindofArmy03]

you still don't seem to know what you're talking about.

[young, loud and andrew]

A lot of things have turned into a fad. As long as you don't follow it what does it matter anyway. And by the way, I read in a book once (no I dont believe everything I read but I kinda believe this) that there was a place in California where straight edge people would go and drink. There's hypocrites all around us, as long as we don't buy into their bullsh!t theres no problem.

i think i read about a place like that in American Hardcore: A Tribal History


it's funny that most if not all of the hardcore i listen to is edge, but i am not. i do a bit of social drinking.

[Silvermedalmafia]

All of you must go now and buy Siren Song of The Counter Culture, because it rocks my socks.

[shane italian]

1. dont judge me 2. just because i dont feel that the circle jerks are hardcore doesnt give u the right to say that i dont know what im talkin about1. I judge all; 2. Buy a typing tutor.

[DrGolovaCroxby]

1. dont judge me 2. just because i dont feel that the circle jerks are hardcore doesnt give u the right to say that i dont know what im talkin about

well you are wrong. and mentally retarded.

you lose.

[fisticups]

well you are wrong. and mentally retarded.

you lose.


ok i may be wrong but i am not retarded. i may not know as much as ihategc but i do know a little. i know that i like hardcore. so i would appreciate it if u guys would stop talkin crap.

[shane italian]

ok i may be wrong but i am not retarded. i may not know as much as ihategc but i do know a little. i know that i like hardcore. so i would appreciate it if u guys would stop talkin crap.I'm not talkin crap....I'm talkin ****.

[DrGolovaCroxby]

ok i may be wrong but i am not retarded. i may not know as much as ihategc but i do know a little. i know that i like hardcore. so i would appreciate it if u guys would stop talkin crap.

i would appreciate if U learned to spell.

jackoff.

[AIMLESS_ENDEAVOR]

Hey..........I was just wondering what are some good minor threat songs????

[DrGolovaCroxby]

there are none. minor threat sucks.

[shane italian]

Hey..........I was just wondering what are some good minor threat songs????Filler
Straight Edge
12XU

[BuddyBigsby]

And don't forget "Seeing Red"

[fisticups]

i would appreciate if U learned to spell.

jackoff.


what did i spell wrong?

[BuddyBigsby]

Basically everything that was supposed to be in English.

[syrUsbilt]

there are none. minor threat sucks.

I want to pretend to be angsty like you Dr.GC. Tell me how! You are really good at it.

[DrGolovaCroxby]

I want to pretend to be angsty like you Dr.GC. Tell me how! You are really good at it.

yes. because since i don't like minor threat, i must be angsty. :rolleyes:

do you even actually know what angst is?

[syrUsbilt]

yes. because since i don't like minor threat, i must be angsty. :rolleyes:

do you even actually know what angst is?

If a guy is asking about a band and asks what some good songs are you dont tell him they all suck...that isn't what I'd call constructive. Sure I'm probably guilty of this infraction but still.

I'll use another adjective if you wish, you are being so purposely set against everything, as if you tried to seem like that. Its pretty lame. Oh I forgot to use a new adjective. My bad.

[DFelon204409]

[Insert name] Core

DRACULACORE?

[young, loud and andrew]

minor threat- "salad days" is a great song.

[NakedRaygun872]

Any Bones Brigade fans?

[syrUsbilt]

ME. I'm a huge fan. I saw them with a bunch of punk bands earlier in the summer. They are great live too.

[cbmartinez]

7 Seconds and Kill Your Idols are coming out with new CDs this fall. You guys probably no that already though...

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Bones Brigade are awesome. I love the sound they get from the bass.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

:eek: I just downloaded some Kids Like Us and they are ****ing amazing.

[shane italian]

tattoos of knuckles and knived but never swing a fist in a f'ucking fist fight


That is why they are amazing.

[BuddyBigsby]

Hey, I'm writing this genre misconception article for this e-zine. I'm going to delve into the hardcore sub-genres like tough guy, Boston, NYHC, Straight Edge, and Posi. If anyone wants to help me out with said genres - things you've noticed about that particular genre, bands, etc. - it would be greatly appreciated, I'll give credit. A few of you guys are way better at the straight-up stuff then I am. *looks in Shane, ALLP and Sys' directions. And I know there's a couple other guys*

I'm also talking about the misconceptions behind metalcore and screamo, but I got that pretty much covered unless any of you want to make sure I cover something specific.

[REINER]

Straight edge bands tend to ether be tough guy/militant or a posi band.
Posi usually encompases edge.

NYHC tends to have more punk in the music.

[shane italian]

Hey, I'm writing this genre misconception article for this e-zine. I'm going to delve into the hardcore sub-genres like tough guy, Boston, NYHC, Straight Edge, and Posi. If anyone wants to help me out with said genres - things you've noticed about that particular genre, bands, etc. - it would be greatly appreciated, I'll give credit. A few of you guys are way better at the straight-up stuff then I am. *looks in Shane, ALLP and Sys' directions. And I know there's a couple other guys*

I'm also talking about the misconceptions behind metalcore and screamo, but I got that pretty much covered unless any of you want to make sure I cover something specific.Straight edge bands tend to be in your face (musically and lyrically). Bands like Embrace Today, Casey Jones, Stand And Fight, Until The End, and so on show this in their music. Pounding riffs and drums with generic yet moving lyrics that are form the heart (in my opinion, others may say different). But then there are posi bands who also spread the edge like Chain Of Strength, Stay Gold, Good Clean Fun, and Time Flies. Notice that these bands take more of an old school approach musically. Straight edge hardcore is pretty hard to define because of these differences.

I dunno a lot about NYHC besides Judge, Madball, Most Precious Blood, and a few others I can't name off the top of my head. I think someone else whos more educated on it should explain it, I'm sure my explanation would be nothing but flaw.

And as for Boston Hardcore, the sound takes more of an influence from the old school bands. Some Kind Of Hate, In My Eyes, Blood For Blood, Reach The Sky, and so on aren't blasting your ears full of open chords in drop D. It's hardcore in it's purest form. I think that's what the Boston scene is about for the most part.

Hahaha, my futile attempt to analyze the subjects.

[young, loud and andrew]

please correct me if i'm wrong:

NYHC has more of a metallic sound... it's a bit slower and "tough-guy" influenced. it seems to not really incorporate "posi" lyrics and is more about ****ing people up-- madball, most precious blood, and even terror (though not from NYC) follow the NYHC style.

Posi seems to have started in the late eighties and early nineties with bands like Youth of Today, Gorilla Biscuits, Uniform Choice, ten yard fight, floorpunch, etc... Mid-nineties-now, bands like Champion, Good Clean Fun, Comeback Kid, The Promise, Bane, Stand and Fight, Stretch Arm Strong, Diehard Youth, etc. i can't really differentiate between posi, youth crew, and straight edge... they all seem to be basically the same thing: fast, in your face, less breakdowns, finger pointing, pile ons, etc.


Question/Topic of Discussion: Can a band be posi but not straight edge?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Hey, I'm writing this genre misconception article for this e-zine. I'm going to delve into the hardcore sub-genres like tough guy, Boston, NYHC, Straight Edge, and Posi. If anyone wants to help me out with said genres - things you've noticed about that particular genre, bands, etc. - it would be greatly appreciated, I'll give credit. A few of you guys are way better at the straight-up stuff then I am. *looks in Shane, ALLP and Sys' directions. And I know there's a couple other guys*

I'm also talking about the misconceptions behind metalcore and screamo, but I got that pretty much covered unless any of you want to make sure I cover something specific.
Heh, yay people think im smart! :smoke: I don't really see Boston hardcore to be a sub-genre, though I suppose Boston bands have some similarities, as shane mentioned. Straight Edge bands have a lot of variety too, there's a lot of difference between Earth Crisis and something like In My Eyes. There's the toughguy militant straight edge stuff on one side, and the posi/youthcrew on the other, with some bands falling in the middle also. I'm not sure how to describe NYHC, but NYHC bands are definitely similar.

What's the e-zine called?

[young, loud and andrew]

Heh, yay people think im smart! :smoke: I don't really see Boston hardcore to be a sub-genre, though I suppose Boston bands have some similarities, as shane mentioned. Straight Edge bands have a lot of variety too, there's a lot of difference between Earth Crisis and something like In My Eyes. There's the toughguy militant straight edge stuff on one side, and the posi/youthcrew on the other, with some bands falling in the middle also. I'm not sure how to describe NYHC, but NYHC bands are definitely similar.


the militant stuff is definitely seen in bands like Earth Crisis and Throwdown (not from boston and not very good either).

[shane italian]

the militant stuff is definitely seen in bands like Earth Crisis and Throwdown (not from boston and not very good either).Suprisingly enough, Throwdown are a posi band...more so in the Keith era.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Suprisingly enough, Throwdown are a posi band...more so in the Keith era.
It's true... :eek:

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

And don't be dissing on Throwdown or i ****a you up good

[syrUsbilt]

Suprisingly enough, Throwdown are a posi band...more so in the Keith era.

They did a split with Good Clean Fun..I kid you not

[shane italian]

I know this, I have it. Their Jingle Bell Rock cover sucked balls. The other song was pretty good though.

[cbmartinez]

Can someone define posi?

[shane italian]

Can someone define posi?Positive hardcore, started by bands like Gorilla Buiscits and 7 Seconds. Also known as youth crew.

[cbmartinez]

Positive lyrics I'm assuming?

[REINER]

Postive thinking, kind of self explainitory.

[cbmartinez]

Ok, thanks.

[fisticups]

If every form of hardcore is welcome in this thread also New York Hardcore belongs in here.
Some NYHC bands:
Madball, Sick of it All, Agnostic Front, ... Could anyone fill this list up?

i can add a band that no one has mentioned...SHUTDOWN

[syrUsbilt]

widzjnent you forgot Cro-Mags..the most influential NYHC band ever.

[fisticups]

what would Figure Four and First Blood be considered hardcore or metalcore?
I think Figure Four is hardcore and First Blood is in between

[BuddyBigsby]

Figure Four are borderline. First Blood just really heavy hardcore.

Thanks a lot guys! I'll give credit to whomever I use information from. I'm going to need everyone's names (You don't have to give last unless you want to) then.

As for the e-zine: Haha, I actually forgot what it's called. It's this kid from New Zealand and he just started it up. He's mainly covering the softer stuff so he saw me on here and asked me if I wanted to cover the harder end of the spectrum. It's a pretty small operation but he said it's pulling in 1,000 hits a day.

[MothEatenDeerHead213]

Cro-Mags are sick/

[young, loud and andrew]

no one answered my question from before: can a band be posi but not straight edge??


Shane, did you mention GB and 7 Seconds? Those bands are great. I actually just read a GCF interview yesterday in which Issa says GB is their biggest influence... it's pretty easy to tell.

[shane italian]

Okay, I first heard Walls Of Jericho a year or two ago and disliked them. I listened to All Hail The Dead last night and I love it. Wow, I love it alot.

[cbmartinez]

Walls Of Jericho are very good. The female singer gives quite an impressive scream. I like "There's No I In **** You" and "A Little Piece Of Me."

[young, loud and andrew]

Okay, I first heard Walls Of Jericho a year or two ago and disliked them. I listened to All Hail The Dead last night and I love it. Wow, I love it alot.


Isn't Walls Of Jericho a metal band?

[shane italian]

Walls Of Jericho are very good. The female singer gives quite an impressive scream. I like "There's No I In **** You" and "A Little Piece Of Me."I really dig the intro in "All Hail The Dead" for the nice beat it has going. She's hot, I want to do her.

[cbmartinez]

Isn't Walls Of Jericho a metal band?

Metalcore

She's hot, I want to do her.

The picture I saw she looked ugly. I'll try to find it.

[shane italian]

The picture I saw she looked ugly. I'll try to find it.The old pictures of her are ugly, but the promo ones and the picture in the AHTD e-card were hot.

[cbmartinez]

Oooo. I gotta see these. Here's the one I saw.

http://www.trustkill.com/bands/bios/wallsofjericho.php

Also, I see Bleeding Through is on tour with Death By Stereo and that you can order the new It Dies Today and RosesAreRed together for $20.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

no one answered my question from before: can a band be posi but not straight edge??


Shane, did you mention GB and 7 Seconds? Those bands are great. I actually just read a GCF interview yesterday in which Issa says GB is their biggest influence... it's pretty easy to tell.
7 Seconds and GB definitely need to be mentioned.

[REINER]

http://www.dobi.nu/gallery/beloved/1.jpg

Wow, just wow.

[NewKindofArmy03]

haha, i never listened to beloved, what kind of band are they?

[shane italian]

http://www.dobi.nu/gallery/beloved/1.jpg

Wow, just wow.Dude...the only band on that list capable of even bitch slapping someone is BTBAM. Dobi is good stuff though, I like his photography.

[REINER]

http://www.dobi.nu/

There is his site with a bunch of stuff.

[shane italian]

His new site sucks a'ss. I liked the old one with the band photos.

[cbmartinez]

Is Evergreen Terrace hardcore or metalcore?

[shane italian]

Metalcore or something along those lines.

[shane italian]

bump

[40 oz 2 freedom]

haha, i never listened to beloved, what kind of band are they?

Melodic emocore maybe? I don't really know, but I like them.

[shane italian]

I would toss them into something like melodic rock.

[NewKindofArmy03]

check out these bands.
die young- http://www.dieyoung.com/
will to live- http://www.willtolive.net/
texas has some good bands coming out lately.

[shane italian]

More texas bands to check out:
www.farewelltoshadowlands.com

LOOK THESE UP ON HXCMP3.COM:
Layin' It Down
HoldXFast
The Contender
Pride Kills
At All Cost

[AndHagan2]

That guy has a Terror shirt. He rules.

[NewKindofArmy03]

pride kills is so good, have you checked out their new song? it's better then the stuff from the EP.

[AndHagan2]

Farewelltoshadowlands were quite good.

[chineese_spoons]

how have I not seen this thread!o well,I'm here now.this might have already been said earlier but in the original post you list throwdown in the hardcore bands.I would definately think throwdown is metalcore.their songs mainly are chugga chugga breakdowns.

[chineese_spoons]

anybody heard the new dead to fall cd?

[NewKindofArmy03]

nah, throwdown is a hardcore band.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Good straight-edge band that I know from here. www.oobbff.tk

[Volume8]

Yeah, screw edge, I'm gonna go get an anarchy tattoo. I hate you.

Do you think before you type at all?

[syrUsbilt]

Do you think before you type at all?

Anarchy Tattoo Crew for life.
and...Nope.

[Volume8]

Anarchy Tattoo Crew for life.
and...Nope.

Is this that fat ginger twat with a gun, just with a different name per chance?

I got nothing against straight edge people, Im talking about the fact its being merchandised! Read posts before going off on one tosser

[syrUsbilt]

Is this that fat ginger twat with a gun, just with a different name per chance?

I got nothing against straight edge people, Im talking about the fact its being merchandised! Read posts before going off on one tosser

fat ginger twat with a gun? Do you mean TeleJon? And no..I have had this user name for a long time, I don't have another. Everything gets merchandised, sad fact.

[Volume8]

fat ginger twat with a gun? Do you mean TeleJon? And no..I have had this user name for a long time, I don't have another. Everything gets merchandised, sad fact.

Ah,

Not telejon the gun slinging gut meister then, fair play.

[shane italian]

Name changes are gay.

[young, loud and andrew]

That guy has a Terror shirt. He rules.

the new terror cd is brutal. my favorite song off it is probably "keep your mouth shut."

[Gotkookie]

the new terror cd is brutal. my favorite song off it is probably "keep your mouth shut."
I orgasm when I listen to that cd. :smoke:

[NewKindofArmy03]

i still don't have it. i've heard some of it because my friend has it, but that's it.

[syrUsbilt]

I have it, its great, it beats the crap out of you when you listen to it.

[REINER]

I downloaded it off Shane because I'm jewish.

My friend got it at Hellfest, so I listened to it then. Sounds like your typical Terror music. It's like music ment for dancing.

[NewKindofArmy03]

i was going to pick it up at the madball show but the merch there was expensive so i couldn't get it.

[cbmartinez]

the new terror cd is brutal. my favorite song off it is probably "keep your mouth shut."

I hate "Keep Your Mouth Shut." The rest of the CD sounds ok.

And Throwdown is Metalcore.

[REINER]

I never buy CD's that are over 10 bucks. Hence why I ether download it, or get it at a show/distro because they sell them cheap.

[syrUsbilt]

I downloaded it from shane too.

[shane italian]

I downloaded it off Shane because I'm jewish.

My friend got it at Hellfest, so I listened to it then. Sounds like your typical Terror music. It's like music ment for dancing.BYD are pure mosh dude. PURE MOSH!

[young, loud and andrew]

which Gorilla Biscuits full length do you guys think is better? I have some mp3's from both, but i'll probably end up buying one of them (or better yet, downloading both) in the near future.

I'm a pacifist when it comes to arguments with friends and people I don't know, but Terror really makes me want to kick the crap out of someone... in a good way.

[young, loud and andrew]

I downloaded it off Shane because I'm jewish.



heyyyyy there..... lay off Jews, will ya?

[AndHagan2]

TERROR TERROR TERROR. **** I love them

[shane italian]

heyyyyy there..... lay off Jews, will ya?Those jews with their money and curly hair.

[NewKindofArmy03]

i can't wait to see terror with unearth.

[young, loud and andrew]

Those jews with their money and curly hair.

ok. that made me laugh. but still... :smash:

[REINER]

When I grow my hair out it curls because I'm greek. My jewish friend refers to it as the jew-fro.

[shane italian]

ok. that made me laugh. but still... :smash:Are you Jewish? I look jewish, but I'm not.

[NewKindofArmy03]

i look jewish too. i have the hair and the nose, but i'm not a jew.

[DrGolovaCroxby]

you're all jews.

[young, loud and andrew]

Are you Jewish? I look jewish, but I'm not.

yes, i am. i broke my nose when i was younger so it gives it an added touch. other than that, i don't look it. i have blond hair and blue/green eyes.

[shane italian]

yes, i am. i broke my nose when i was younger so it gives it an added touch. other than that, i don't look it. i have blond hair and blue/green eyes.My bad, my bad. I have a puffy nose...more of an Italian style rather than Jew style.

[young, loud and andrew]

My bad, my bad. I have a puffy nose...more of an Italian style rather than Jew style.


no worries. i just can't stand when people make jewish stereotypes.


in other news... someone answer my gorilla biscuits question from the previous page.



ALSO! i finally found the Carry On cd at a store today. it's really good from what i've heard so far. i want to buy the shirt off bridge9.com, but it says "straightedge" on it... and i'm not straight edge. i'd feel kinda bad wearing it. i definitely have to order the GCF "putting the HA back into Hardcore" shirt at some point though.

[shane italian]

no worries. i just can't stand when people make jewish stereotypes.


in other news... someone answer my gorilla biscuits question from the previous page.



ALSO! i finally found the Carry On cd at a store today. it's really good from what i've heard so far. i want to buy the shirt off bridge9.com, but it says "straightedge" on it... and i'm not straight edge. i'd feel kinda bad wearing it. i definitely have to order the GCF "putting the HA back into Hardcore" shirt at some point though.Get the one I have, that says Roll With The Punches underneath it.

[NewKindofArmy03]

someone let me download some carry on stuff from them. i always search it on soulseek and never get anything.

[shane italian]

which Gorilla Biscuits full length do you guys think is better? I have some mp3's from both, but i'll probably end up buying one of them (or better yet, downloading both) in the near future. Start First...definately.

[shane italian]

someone let me download some carry on stuff from them. i always search it on soulseek and never get anything.Whats your user name?

[AndHagan2]

I look like a Jew. I have the jewish curl and everything, except I have blue eyes.

[NewKindofArmy03]

<---

[shane italian]

<---Hmm...just message me at shane italian

[young, loud and andrew]

soulseek never works for me. it just takes forever and never gets anyway. i found some random program called "warez" that has been doing the job fine recently... except i have to actually search for all the songs on an album.

the bridge9.com site has an mp3 for Carry On's "killing a sound" if you want a sample. They sound a lot like Champion (or vice versa).

[AndHagan2]

slsk never works for me either. BRIDGE 9

[REINER]

I go into the B9 room every now and then. It's a good place to download alot of music off people.

[BuddyBigsby]

Man, this sucks. I'm gone all day because of work and school, and then I come home and this thread has grown 2 pages. Every day. You guys need to get lives so I can keep up.

[BuddyBigsby]

1. Who are you?

2. I'm in college.

3. I went to Chino High.

EDIT: 1700th post for this thread!

Another Edit: Hahaha, way to delete your post you mysterious He_Is_Upon_Us guy, you.

[obese_breasts]

hahah that was shane

[BuddyBigsby]

Ohhhh. Sneaky bastard.

[shane italian]

I have no idea of this post you speak of.

[eva61241]

What genres do the following bands fall under, considering this is a thread for hardcore/metalcore education any opinions would be appreciated.

As the Sun Sets
Between the Buried and Me
Daughters
Converge
Neil Perry
Orchid
The Bled
The End
The Number Twelve Looks Like You

I also have to ask if there is any difference between the terms of metallic hardcore and metalcore, i.e. Would As I Lay Dying be considered metallic hardcore or metalcore?

Thank you.

[syrUsbilt]

as i lay dying is metal or metacore.

between the buried and me is metal
daughters is grindcore
converge is metalcore
the bled is metalcore

and i dont listen to any of the other bands.

[shane italian]

As the Sun Sets - screamo
Between the Buried and Me - metal
Daughters - screamo
Converge - metalcore
Neil Perry - screamo
Orchid - screamo
The Bled - metalcoreish
The End - dunno
The Number Twelve Looks Like You - screamo
Basically

[TeleJon]

this **** never ends!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shane italian]

Your mom!

[Firecracker]

i hate labeling so i'll have a go.

avenged sevenfold - metalcore

am i right?

does it matter?

no.

[BuddyBigsby]

Awesome post!

[NewKindofArmy03]

BB, what's all else failed's better cd? i might see them tomorrow if i get a ride and i'll probably have money for one cd if i go.

[syrUsbilt]

i hate labeling so i'll have a go.

avenged sevenfold - metalcore

am i right?

does it matter?

no.

YOU go to pop punk and never come back. Seriously if anyone here listens to avenged sevenfold I have no problem deporting you to Antarctica with nothing but the clothes on your back.

[young, loud and andrew]

YOU go to pop punk and never come back. Seriously if anyone here listens to avenged sevenfold I have no problem deporting you to Antarctica with nothing but the clothes on your back.

*has just been deported* :rolleyes:

I've learned something recently: it doesn't matter what other people listen to. Would you want everyone walking around talking about your favorite underground hardcore bands? Of course not. Let people listen to what they want and you can feel special that you know about something more "core" than what they listen to. I am in no way trying to be a dick about this, but it has to be said. I listen to blink 182 and minor threat; to avenged sevenfold and gorilla biscuits; to sum 41 and good clean fun. Does it really matter what people listen to?

[cbmartinez]

Acapellica is officially the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life.

[cbmartinez]

I also have to ask if there is any difference between the terms of metallic hardcore and metalcore, i.e. Would As I Lay Dying be considered metallic hardcore or metalcore?

Metallic hardcore is basically metalcore. You don't have to get that technical. As I Lay Dying is metalcore.

[AndHagan2]

A7X for life.

[refuse_amen]

i actually like avenged sevenfold, however un-punk that makes me.

[shane italian]

i actually like avenged sevenfold, however un-punk that makes me.Way un-punk, go kill yourself.

[refuse_amen]

Way un-punk, go kill yourself.

:upset:

[shane italian]

:upset:lolz jk i leik teh dahsbord confwesinoal. teh maek me cri. :eek:

[refuse_amen]

liek every1 nos dats 4 l00zers a7x 4 lyfe kill all d0se emo pussies lol roflmaoloooool

[AndHagan2]

I cant even read those^^

[cbmartinez]

I lyke teh AvnGed 7Fuld 2.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

liek every1 nos dats 4 l00zers a7x 4 lyfe kill all d0se emo pussies lol roflmaoloooool

lolz jk i leik teh dahsbord confwesinoal. teh maek me cri. :eek:

:lol:

[whispercore23]

I'm no expert on that so someone add more if needed.
only one i know you left out is converge (alot like dillinger)

[REINER]

Converge is more metalcore, but they have some bits of grind. (I'm to lazy to check, so I'm assumng thats what your refering to.)

[whispercore23]

YOU go to pop punk and never come back. Seriously if anyone here listens to avenged sevenfold I have no problem deporting you to Antarctica with nothing but the clothes on your back.


Listen you overly opinionated deushbag, im sick of people thrashing A7X and the people who listen to them. Just cuz theyre more mainstream then the bands (probably ****ty ones if you cant even at least respect Avenged) that you listen to doesnt make them bad. Theyre some of the most talented musicians in the (insert own prefix here)core genre. And to say that anyone who listens to them should go to pop punk well thats just absurd. And before you question my,for lack of a better word, credibility and tell me to go listen to pop punk, in addition to the more mainstream hardcore im a fan of bands like converge, and norma jean, who im sure would tear you up for bagging on a band who just happens to be succesful at doing their thing. Afterall thats the whole reason anyone anywhere gets into the music business is to be succesfull, am I wrong?

[AndHagan2]

You are completly wrong. Not many bands in the punk genre make bands to become sucessfull. Also maybe people dont like A7X's music. I know I sure dont. Go back to the pop-punk forum you crying little b'itch.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Listen you overly opinionated deushbag, im sick of people thrashing A7X and the people who listen to them. Just cuz theyre more mainstream then the bands (probably ****ty ones if you cant even at least respect Avenged) that you listen to doesnt make them bad. Theyre some of the most talented musicians in the (insert own prefix here)core genre. And to say that anyone who listens to them should go to pop punk well thats just absurd. And before you question my,for lack of a better word, credibility and tell me to go listen to pop punk, in addition to the more mainstream hardcore im a fan of bands like converge, and norma jean, who im sure would tear you up for bagging on a band who just happens to be succesful at doing their thing. Afterall thats the whole reason anyone anywhere gets into the music business is to be succesfull, am I wrong?
Avenged Sevenfold does belong in the pop-punk forum as they are not a hardcore band.

[shane italian]

Listen you overly opinionated deushbag, im sick of people thrashing A7X and the people who listen to them. Just cuz theyre more mainstream then the bands (probably ****ty ones if you cant even at least respect Avenged) that you listen to doesnt make them bad. Theyre some of the most talented musicians in the (insert own prefix here)core genre. And to say that anyone who listens to them should go to pop punk well thats just absurd. And before you question my,for lack of a better word, credibility and tell me to go listen to pop punk, in addition to the more mainstream hardcore im a fan of bands like converge, and norma jean, who im sure would tear you up for bagging on a band who just happens to be succesful at doing their thing. Afterall thats the whole reason anyone anywhere gets into the music business is to be succesfull, am I wrong?hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha, You said Norma Jean would tear me up for ragging on a band. So anyways. Avenged Sevenfold aren't that talented, I don't like them. They are a metal band. Nothing "core" about them. I'm still baffled, did you mean something like Norma Jean might hurt me for saying they suck?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha, You said Norma Jean would tear me up for ragging on a band. So anyways. Avenged Sevenfold aren't that talented, I don't like them. They are a metal band. Nothing "core" about them. I'm still baffled, did you mean something like Norma Jean might hurt me for saying they suck?
:lol: I missed that part. Norma Jean are coming for you...

[AndHagan2]

Norma Jean will rip you a new one. Watch out

[Anti-Sound]

sounds like something i musta missed out on, but anyway now that iv alienated everyone, i was wondering if you guys would review a song i made, i think it would best be described as 'grindcore'..

dl link

the f*** s*** - SODOMY! (http://members.aol.com/qish/The_F---_S----SODOMY.wav)

...the name needs work i know that is the worst thing i have ever heard

[AndHagan2]

That was terrible.

[BuddyBigsby]

BB, what's all else failed's better cd? i might see them tomorrow if i get a ride and i'll probably have money for one cd if i go.

Well, I only have the new one and then their EPs and splits. The new one is good, but it has a lot of clean vocals and emocore parts which... that's like Converge writing a hair metal ballad. TOTALLY out of place. So I think, if you can, go with Archetype. If you want to put up with the clean vocals and sappy parts, then get This Never Happened. It's still not a bad album, but the soft parts definitely bring it down. The first 4 tracks are unstoppable.

[NewKindofArmy03]

thanks. "to whom it may concern" is unstoppable, i love that song.

[BuddyBigsby]

Listen you overly opinionated deushbag, im sick of people thrashing A7X and the people who listen to them. Just cuz theyre more mainstream then the bands (probably ****ty ones if you cant even at least respect Avenged) that you listen to doesnt make them bad. Theyre some of the most talented musicians in the (insert own prefix here)core genre. And to say that anyone who listens to them should go to pop punk well thats just absurd. And before you question my,for lack of a better word, credibility and tell me to go listen to pop punk, in addition to the more mainstream hardcore im a fan of bands like converge, and norma jean, who im sure would tear you up for bagging on a band who just happens to be succesful at doing their thing. Afterall thats the whole reason anyone anywhere gets into the music business is to be succesfull, am I wrong?

And this folks is the reason I'm ashamed to like Avenged Sevenfold now.

[BuddyBigsby]

thanks. "to whom it may concern" is unstoppable, i love that song.

Haha, yeah, that's track 4. If you don't get the CD, then at least download the first track because the breakdown it is CRUSHING.

[young, loud and andrew]

i keep hearing about the band Count Me Out... what do they sound like? just run-of-the-mill youth crew?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

They sound sort of like Bane. But the teeniest bit better. Listen to What We Built.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I sooooo wan't their first EP. It's out of print right? Because I can't find it anywhere.

[NewKindofArmy03]

they sound a little like bane i guess, but they're better. check them out, you'll probably like them.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

they sound a little like bane i guess, but they're better. check them out, you'll probably like them.
omg yes d00dz. tehy sownd liek teh bayne d00dz :cool:

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Actually they don't sound a ton like Bane. I'm just an idiot.

[BuddyBigsby]

Shaney, you lose eternally if you do not go to this

SAT
NOV 6TH 100 DEMONS Cast Aside, Donnybrook, Laid To Rest $10/7:00

[fisticups]

i was going to pick it up at the madball show but the merch there was expensive so i couldn't get it.

the merch wasnt that bad. i got the new madball ep for 5 bucks. they were in cali like 3-4 months ago. did dawny brook play at the show u went to? they covered a shutdown song it was awesome.

[shane italian]

Shaney, you lose eternally if you do not go to this

SAT
NOV 6TH 100 DEMONS Cast Aside, Donnybrook, Laid To Rest $10/7:00WHERE AT!?!!?!?!?!

[BuddyBigsby]

Showcase.

[shane italian]

Oh snap I am so f'ucking there!

[fisticups]

you guys live in the IE?

[BuddyBigsby]

I do. He's all cooooool with his OC and his Eighteen Visions.

[shane italian]

I do. He's all cooooool with his OC and his Eighteen Visions.Are you going to Casey Jones?

OC is so kewl.

[BuddyBigsby]

Yes, of course. Don't be silly.

[fisticups]

i live in fontana but i used to live in colton. the scene there is nice