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40 oz 2 freedom
03-09-2005, 09:53 PM
I just bid more than I wanted to pay for Give Blood on clear on Ebay. I get excited.
BuddyBigsby
03-09-2005, 09:55 PM
What's the big deal about Give Blood vinyl?
REINER
03-09-2005, 09:56 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4708308230&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
That descriptiion is beter.
"BAAAAAAAAAAANE!! *two steps furiously* Be sure to check out my other auctions...tons of vinyl/CDs. Good luck!"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4708293844&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
8.50 isn't bad for a used 12" that probably cost 10 new.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-09-2005, 09:58 PM
That second one is the one I bid on. I'm the high bidder.
REINER
03-09-2005, 09:59 PM
I know, the 1st one has a better discription.
I don't know what the big deal is with it on vinyl, but the CD/Record ****ing owns.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-09-2005, 09:59 PM
When I get paid for Surfjunky I'm spending that **** on ebay.
I'd love Give Blood on vinyl. Especially clear. Clear vinyl rules.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-09-2005, 10:00 PM
I didn't know there was a big deal about it. I just really like the album, and I've never seen it for sale.
OI! to the World!
03-09-2005, 10:01 PM
I use ebay alot.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-09-2005, 10:02 PM
I have never used it before.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-09-2005, 10:03 PM
I used it a lot a couple of years ago.
REINER
03-09-2005, 10:04 PM
My friend wanted to buy an old Bane shirt form like '96. I liked the design better on it than their current ones, but I would never buy a used shirt off ebay.
AN hoodie $1425, my god! hehe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3962145194&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
The guy selling that is selling counterfit AN and FP merch along with a bunch of other fake stuff.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-09-2005, 10:05 PM
You posted the link to that Give Blood record again.
shane italian
03-09-2005, 10:05 PM
****in nerds.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-09-2005, 10:06 PM
Shane wishes he had a record player.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-09-2005, 10:06 PM
My friend wanted to buy an old Bane shirt form like '96. I liked the design better on it than their current ones, but I would never buy a used shirt off ebay.
AN hoodie $1425, my god! hehe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4708293844&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
The guy selling that is selling counterfit AN and FP merch along with a bunch of other fake stuff.
That's a link to the Bane LP...
BEATEN.
REINER
03-09-2005, 10:07 PM
God damnit.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3962145194&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
Fixed it.
BuddyBigsby
03-09-2005, 10:08 PM
is this the same guy doing the fake AN stuff that was doing it a year or two back? I remember AN posted something on their site about it.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-09-2005, 10:08 PM
Jesus christ, $1500 for a fake.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-09-2005, 10:08 PM
That hoodie is gay looking anyway. There was a thread on the b9 about them putting fake bids on that, and all the other guys stuff.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-09-2005, 10:08 PM
Oh yeah, also http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4708293844&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
BuddyBigsby
03-09-2005, 10:09 PM
How can you tell it's fake?
And who would pay that much? That hoodie's pretty rare but not $1400 rare. My friend has it and I see one occasionaly.
REINER
03-09-2005, 10:09 PM
I don't know if it's the same guy, but this guy is faking all different kinds of stuff, not just hardcore merch.
Obviously no one is going to pay that much for that hoodie. I emailed him pretending to be from the band and said I'd take legal action if the items were not removed. No responce yet :)
AN hoodie was never made in blue. Plus he's selling FP shirts from years ago that are brand new made in bulk.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-09-2005, 10:12 PM
How can you tell it's fake?
And who would pay that much? That hoodie's pretty rare but not $1400 rare. My friend has it and I see one occasionaly.
http://www.bridge9.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98730
OI! to the World!
03-09-2005, 10:15 PM
My friend wanted to buy an old Bane shirt form like '96. I liked the design better on it than their current ones, but I would never buy a used shirt off ebay.
AN hoodie $1425, my god! hehe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3962145194&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
The guy selling that is selling counterfit AN and FP merch along with a bunch of other fake stuff.
I buy used everything off of ebay.
CONNER_NWHC
03-09-2005, 10:33 PM
http://www.bridge9.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98730
People who post on b9 are the scum of hardcore.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-09-2005, 10:47 PM
G'night dudes.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-09-2005, 10:55 PM
People who post on b9 are the scum of hardcore.
If I recall I've seen you post on the b9.
CONNER_NWHC
03-09-2005, 10:58 PM
If I recall I've seen you post on the b9.
Im scum what can i say, but i only have 3 posts.
CONNER_NWHC
03-09-2005, 10:59 PM
I don't know if it's the same guy, but this guy is faking all different kinds of stuff, not just hardcore merch.
Obviously no one is going to pay that much for that hoodie. I emailed him pretending to be from the band and said I'd take legal action if the items were not removed. No responce yet :)
AN hoodie was never made in blue. Plus he's selling FP shirts from years ago that are brand new made in bulk.
I would buy one of those FP shirts if they where like 10 bucks.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-09-2005, 11:01 PM
Im scum what can i say, but i only have 3 posts.
Ah alright. What's so bad about the b9?
suicidal dreams
03-09-2005, 11:03 PM
Call me a n00b but what is the B9?
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-09-2005, 11:05 PM
Bridge 9 Records messageboard.
suicidal dreams
03-09-2005, 11:09 PM
Ahhh, thanks :thumb:
CONNER_NWHC
03-09-2005, 11:34 PM
Ah alright. What's so bad about the b9?
A few nights back they where bashing NW bands....and lots of the people just say how bad bands are.
CONNER_NWHC
03-09-2005, 11:34 PM
Call me a n00b but what is the B9?
n00b :) http://www.bridge9.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=1a95f04b111a83a4839d5577ecb76f40
NewKindofArmy03
03-10-2005, 09:47 PM
Sup ladies, sup sluts?
Check out this video though, finally a video that doesn't bore me.
http://thorprecords.com/videos/index.php
OI! to the World!
03-10-2005, 09:53 PM
which one?
CONNER_NWHC
03-10-2005, 09:54 PM
I bought a Far From breaking shirt for 3 dollars.
OI! to the World!
03-10-2005, 09:54 PM
i bought a shirt froma thrift store for a penney ha!
40 oz 2 freedom
03-10-2005, 09:56 PM
I bought a Far From breaking shirt for 3 dollars.
They're from SA dog!!
SactoUnited
03-10-2005, 09:56 PM
The punk forum is lame right now. Nobody is posting in anything but the Joe Strummer thread.
NewKindofArmy03
03-10-2005, 09:56 PM
which one?
Sorry, the North Side Kings one.
NewKindofArmy03
03-10-2005, 09:56 PM
I bought a Far From breaking shirt for 3 dollars.
Whoa, where?
CONNER_NWHC
03-10-2005, 09:57 PM
They're from SA dog!!
AND THEY'RE AWSOME!
OI! to the World!
03-10-2005, 09:57 PM
The punk forum is lame right now. Nobody is posting in anything but the Joe Strummer thread.
The Punk forum has been getting pretty lame.
CONNER_NWHC
03-10-2005, 09:57 PM
Whoa, where?
Friend was gunna sell it on ebay, but im just gunna give him 3 bucks and The Anwser "you had your chance" 7''....so its not really 3 bucks, but he only wore it once.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-10-2005, 09:58 PM
Tonight I bid on the Jane Doe 2XLP and Converge's first 7".
CONNER_NWHC
03-10-2005, 09:59 PM
How much did you bid? and someone give me tips for searching on ebay.
SactoUnited
03-10-2005, 09:59 PM
As much as I love Joe Strummer, and I said earlier the thread should keep going, they need to cose that that thread.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-10-2005, 10:00 PM
For the 7" like 5, and for Jane Doe I think 8.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Actually $5 for both, with a max bid of $7.
NewKindofArmy03
03-10-2005, 10:06 PM
Tonight I bid on the Jane Doe 2XLP and Converge's first 7".
I need to start bidding on ebay stuff. My mom wouldn't let me use her credit card when I want, so I guess i'd have to use money orders.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-10-2005, 10:13 PM
http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/960636/
:(
40 oz 2 freedom
03-10-2005, 10:14 PM
These are secret bids. I'm using my moms paypal, but if I win, I'll pay her back.
shane italian
03-10-2005, 10:15 PM
Sweet, I think this weekend I may head up to Corona.
CONNER_NWHC
03-10-2005, 11:07 PM
I need to start bidding on ebay stuff. My mom wouldn't let me use her credit card when I want, so I guess i'd have to use money orders.
Make a paypal account, all you need is a bank account.
CONNER_NWHC
03-10-2005, 11:07 PM
http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/960636/
:(
Allterntive rock?? wtf if they put it as anything i guess punk.
El_Shiznit
03-11-2005, 12:12 AM
Shane, you need to get in touch and collaborate with this guy. Straight from the OC.
http://www.purevolume.com/bryceguitar
:)
BuddyBigsby
03-11-2005, 12:27 AM
Sweet, I think this weekend I may head up to Corona.
Is the BBQ still going on?
shane italian
03-11-2005, 12:35 AM
Is the BBQ still going on?Yep, 19th in Fontana at noon.
BuddyBigsby
03-11-2005, 12:37 AM
I don't know why I asked, I'm working 9:30-5:00
BuddyBigsby
03-11-2005, 12:39 AM
Sweet, I think this weekend I may head up to Corona for Folly
Oh yeah noneed, if you're for sure going to go to the Carry On show let me know and I'll pick you up a ticket this weekend and save you the service charge. You can just pay me back in hockey facts or maple syrup or whatever it is you Canadians use.
shane italian
03-11-2005, 12:43 AM
w00t. Adora are playing a battle of the bands at Newport Harbor High School on Saturday. Yay for starting fights with rich boys.
cbmartinez
03-11-2005, 02:50 PM
Last night I realized the stereo in my living room can play records. Hello underground vinyl.
OI! to the World!
03-11-2005, 03:28 PM
I have a record player but it's broken.
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 03:56 PM
w00t. Adora are playing a battle of the bands at Newport Harbor High School on Saturday. Yay for starting fights with rich boys.
Your the rich boy.
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 03:57 PM
Oh yeah noneed, if you're for sure going to go to the Carry On show let me know and I'll pick you up a ticket this weekend and save you the service charge. You can just pay me back in hockey facts or maple syrup or whatever it is you Canadians use.
I wont know until probly may, so i dunno. is it gunna sell out?
40 oz 2 freedom
03-11-2005, 04:15 PM
Woah, I placed my B9 order on Sunday, and it came today. Most of the people that pre-ordered Promises Kept haven't even gotten theirs and I got mine on grey marble AND a free poster.
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 04:22 PM
People around here got that like last month i think. when they preordered it. Thats really fast for b9.
REINER
03-11-2005, 04:37 PM
I bought mine at a distro in grey marble a month ago.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-11-2005, 04:41 PM
Last time I ordered from there it took 3 and a half months, and I only got 1/4 of my order.
REINER
03-11-2005, 04:43 PM
That's why I never
A. order stuff online
B. rare occasion I do it's not from B9
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 04:47 PM
I will order stuff online, but i'd rather do it from a distro or people.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-11-2005, 04:49 PM
Maybe the B9 Store Staff is finally getting their act together.
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 04:50 PM
Once i get my paycheck im gunna order so many CD's.
conniption
03-11-2005, 05:05 PM
i read the first 10 pages,and go to the last,and find u guys talking about buying some stuff?what about the core?
conniption
03-11-2005, 05:06 PM
just wondering,has righteous jams ever been mentioned,or all that remains(very good metalcore band)
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 05:06 PM
Make some convo.
shane italian
03-11-2005, 05:43 PM
Your the rich boy.Haha, yes I'm so rich renting a house with no driveway or yard.
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 05:48 PM
How much does it cost? If it's more than 600,000 your rich .
40 oz 2 freedom
03-11-2005, 05:49 PM
Haha, yes I'm so rich renting a house with no driveway or yard.
C'mon Shane, just face it. You're rich.
chips88
03-11-2005, 05:52 PM
Once i get my paycheck im gunna order so many CD's.
same here, except its 350 in tax returns :D
shane italian
03-11-2005, 05:52 PM
It's 26,000 a month. My family only makes like 120,000 a year. Not that we aren't well off. But I'm not rich. And Conner, you live in Vancouver. And Patrick, you live in a small town in San Antonio and probably have a huge a'ss house.
RetiredAt21
03-11-2005, 05:56 PM
My house is like...connected to another persons house. And the people in the other house suck. They turn their darn rap music up much too loud!
shane italian
03-11-2005, 05:57 PM
Hahaha, my house is maybe 4 feet from my neighbors house. That's how it is all over southern OC, they cram houses into tiny lots and jack the price up to about 900,000 when you could get the same one in Texas for about 150,000.
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 06:01 PM
It's 26,000 a month. My family only makes like 120,000 a year. Not that we aren't well off. But I'm not rich. And Conner, you live in Vancouver. And Patrick, you live in a small town in San Antonio and probably have a huge a'ss house.
Yeah im rich, but i admit it.
NewKindofArmy03
03-11-2005, 07:04 PM
It's 26,000 a month.
That's a lot of money.
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 07:16 PM
That's a lot of money.
Thats 312,000 a year.
REINER
03-11-2005, 07:18 PM
Somehow I doubt Shane was telling the truth.
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 07:19 PM
Yeah that's way to much for a year. Thats twice his parents salary if he was telling the truth about that.
shane italian
03-11-2005, 07:48 PM
No lies.
shane italian
03-11-2005, 07:50 PM
****it! I always mess up with numbers. 2,600***
CONNER_NWHC
03-11-2005, 07:59 PM
http://www.nwhardcore.com/demos/instride/03%20Reach.mp3
BuddyBigsby
03-11-2005, 08:13 PM
I wont know until probly may, so i dunno. is it gunna sell out?
Hard to say. I don't know how much of a following they have now, and I don't know what the turnout's going to be like for people flying/driving in. Usually this venue sells tickets after they're "sold out" and overstuffs the place, so it'll definitely be a packed show, it's just a question of when.
conniption
03-11-2005, 09:57 PM
Isnt this a hardcore thread,god,all you guys are talking about is your pay,i mean sure thats important,but isnt life about our music? Anyways,this thread has changed from the first page to the last drastically,cmon,lets discuss music here!
chips88
03-11-2005, 10:10 PM
Hahaha, my house is maybe 4 feet from my neighbors house. That's how it is all over southern OC, they cram houses into tiny lots and jack the price up to about 900,000 when you could get the same one in Texas for about 150,000.
Texas=cheap housing/labor ++
and to Righteous jams whatever, this also serves as the community thread, and for only having 6 posts, I don't know why you are telling us how to post in our thread. We talk about a crapload of music here, maybe if you would stick around you would see that.
cbmartinez
03-11-2005, 10:33 PM
Shane you got beef with me calling Shai Halud hardcore, say it to my face, boy!
.Realm.of.Chaos.
03-11-2005, 10:34 PM
Anyone heard of Bury Your Dead? Just bought one of their CDs (Cover Your Tracks) I like it, how about you guys?
conniption
03-11-2005, 10:36 PM
yea, bury your dead is pretty sick,but they have practically the same song on every cd(bury your f'ing dead),but yea there good
suicidal dreams
03-11-2005, 10:41 PM
I love them, one of the best CD's I have
.Realm.of.Chaos.
03-11-2005, 10:53 PM
Anyone going to the As I Lay Dying, Throwdown and All That Remains show this or next month? I'm going to the show in Calgary, I can't wait! :):):)
BuddyBigsby
03-12-2005, 04:17 AM
Isnt this a hardcore thread,god,all you guys are talking about is your pay,i mean sure thats important,but isnt life about our music? Anyways,this thread has changed from the first page to the last drastically,cmon,lets discuss music here!
- Read the title. It's a community thread. You're more than welcome to talk about music, but you can talk about pretty much anything else at the same time.
- Don't come in here 365 pages in and try to tell us how to run our thread.
BuddyBigsby
03-12-2005, 04:19 AM
yea, bury your dead is pretty sick,but they have practically the same song on every cd(bury your f'ing dead),but yea there good
What are you talking about?
That's just one song they carried over to the new CD with a new title, along with "So ****ing Blues" and "Tuesday Night Fever".
Anti-Prefix
03-12-2005, 06:46 AM
Anyone ever heard of the local bands: Dare I Say, Piercing Valley?
They're really good and I was friends with some of the members.
young, loud and andrew
03-12-2005, 07:47 AM
Woah, I placed my B9 order on Sunday, and it came today. Most of the people that pre-ordered Promises Kept haven't even gotten theirs and I got mine on grey marble AND a free poster.
****! It took 3+ weeks for my Death Before Dishonor pre order package to come.
conniption
03-12-2005, 10:14 AM
just appolagizing to buddybigsby for being stupid(me),and asking if anyone likes norma jean?
victimofreality
03-12-2005, 10:33 AM
****it! I always mess up with numbers. 2,600***
My brothers apartment in Portland almost costs that much.
CONNER_NWHC
03-12-2005, 06:34 PM
Here's what i bought last night at a Distro.
Champion - Come Out Swinging - Bridge Nine - $9.00
Champion - Count Our Numbers - Bridge Nine - $9.00
Give Up The Ghost - Love American - Bridge Nine - $4.00
Outbreak - You Make Us Sick - Bridge Nine - $9.50
Panic - Dying For It - Bridge Nine - $9.00
physical challenge - i quit - rival - $13.00
Terror - Lowest Of The Low - Bridge Nine - $9.00
verse - rebuild - rival - $13.00
REINER
03-12-2005, 08:03 PM
http://www.hellfest.com/
It might be in NJ again this year. Just some speculation. The place it was at last year closed down.
NewKindofArmy03
03-12-2005, 08:04 PM
I heard it might be the Starland Ballroom, i'll definately go if it's in NJ again though.
REINER
03-12-2005, 08:06 PM
No way it's at Starland. The place holds 2200 max. 1 main stage last year held more than that.
I wish they'd book better bands this year. While I don't mind some of the metal bands they attract fans that annoy me and are ugly. Plus hardcore is better music.
It would be cool if it was up in Syracuse and there was an Earth Crisis reunion show.
NewKindofArmy03
03-12-2005, 08:11 PM
I hope it's not in Syracuse, it'd be hard getting up there. Supposedly the guy takes requests on what bands people want to see most. An Earth Crisis reunion would rule.
CONNER_NWHC
03-12-2005, 09:45 PM
I have been blasting EC for the past hour.
NewKindofArmy03
03-12-2005, 09:49 PM
/puts on Firestorm.
In my top 3 favorite songs.
cbmartinez
03-12-2005, 09:50 PM
Someone send me EC stuff on AIM?
REINER
03-12-2005, 09:53 PM
Just get soulseek. Aim is annoying to send multiple files.
NewKindofArmy03
03-12-2005, 09:53 PM
What's your s/n? I'll send you a few songs.
cbmartinez
03-12-2005, 09:54 PM
finchevelle73
REINER
03-12-2005, 09:56 PM
Haha Finch and Chevelle. Hahah, well I guess I'm not one to talk.
CONNER_NWHC
03-12-2005, 09:57 PM
/puts on Firestorm.
In my top 3 favorite songs.
I could never pick a top 3 list of songs , thats to hard.
CONNER_NWHC
03-12-2005, 09:58 PM
Haha Finch and Chevelle. Hahah, well I guess I'm not one to talk.
Ya Sk8SKAnj
cbmartinez
03-12-2005, 09:58 PM
Chevelle is still cool. My love for Finch has dwindled.
REINER
03-12-2005, 09:59 PM
If I ever changed my name it would be FirestormNJ.
CONNER_NWHC
03-12-2005, 10:00 PM
Once i get my licence im gunna pull up to my school BLASTING it so loud.
cbmartinez
03-12-2005, 10:25 PM
So I got "Firestorm." It's pimp. But I gotta say I'm really digging "Forced To Kill."
REINER
03-12-2005, 10:27 PM
Seriously, Firestorm makes me want to take justice into my own hands and beat people up.
NewKindofArmy03
03-12-2005, 10:29 PM
Once i get my licence im gunna pull up to my school BLASTING it so loud.
I can't wait until I can drive. Insurance where I live is a ton of money though, so I need to get a real job and start saving some money.
cbmartinez
03-12-2005, 10:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/cbmartinez24/emo1.jpg
CONNER_NWHC
03-12-2005, 10:49 PM
Seriously, Firestorm makes me want to take justice into my own hands and beat people up.
If i lived in NJ we would start a crew for sure.
CONNER_NWHC
03-12-2005, 10:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/cbmartinez24/emo1.jpg
**** EMO
cbmartinez
03-12-2005, 10:51 PM
Lolz
Mr. Ron
03-12-2005, 10:59 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/cbmartinez24/emo1.jpg
:lol:
OmIgAwd!!111!! mY lyphe is tEh sUxoRz! :upset:
40 oz 2 freedom
03-12-2005, 11:40 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/****youtwo/march202005.jpg
The **** is ****.
BuddyBigsby
03-13-2005, 12:11 AM
The A Day in Black and White show got cancelled because the venue has been receiving noise complaints :upset:
Speaking of which, SHANE, the Internal Affairs/Stand and Fight/Down to Nothing show also got cancelled. What I said in the IM was that DTN are going to play a backyard show in Diamond Bar that night instead. IM me for the details.
tornpictures
03-13-2005, 03:03 AM
Norma Jean are JC / HC.
Why do people like them? Christianity has no place in hardcore.
tornpictures
03-13-2005, 03:22 AM
The A Day in Black and White show got cancelled because the venue has been receiving noise complaints :upset:
Koo's?
New show at The Smell in LA.
ADIBAW/Navies/TRANSISTOR
BuddyBigsby
03-13-2005, 03:38 AM
Norma Jean are JC / HC.
Why do people like them? Christianity has no place in hardcore.
No. I'm actually surprised you would say that, torn.
Hardcore is a place where ANYONE can voice their beliefs or opinions, be it social, political, personal, or even religious. You don't have to agree with it, but they have as much right to say what they want to say as anyone else does. That's the beautiful thing about hardcore. I'm not even remotely Christian, but I support Christian bands the same as I support a straight edge band, a vegan band, a political band, or any other kind of hardcore band.
BuddyBigsby
03-13-2005, 03:39 AM
Koo's?
New show at The Smell in LA.
ADIBAW/Navies/TRANSISTOR
I don't do LA.
tornpictures
03-13-2005, 04:10 AM
No. I'm actually surprised you would say that, torn.
Hardcore is a place where ANYONE can voice their beliefs or opinions, be it social, political, personal, or even religious. You don't have to agree with it, but they have as much right to say what they want to say as anyone else does. That's the beautiful thing about hardcore. I'm not even remotely Christian, but I support Christian bands the same as I support a straight edge band, a vegan band, a political band, or any other kind of hardcore band.
It's hard to explain my feelings on religion in hardcore, or religion in general.
I think religion is evil.
We've dealt with several 'waves' here, first there were the Krishnas. Sounds good huh? Until you read up on the subject. Turns out being a female Krishna isn't too much fun. Go oppression, go!
Then there was Christianity.
Christianity has nothing, NOTHING to do with hardcore.
Hardcore is a counter culture. What's the point in being a counter culture if you're just a mirror of the dominant culture?
Calling your band a 'straight-edge band' or a 'vegan band' or whatever seems silly to me.
I think your beliefs should play a role in what you do musically, artistically, etc. but not so much that you can't think of anything else, know what I mean? This is pretty difficult to word, but I have very strong feelings about this.
Religion (or beliefs) and music should be separate things, but using your music to spread whatever you think is right is a good thing.
Vegan and Youth Crew bands often force their opinion on others. They're sort of dictatorial. That's a bad thing.
I don't really feel like discussing this any further, but you should definitely feel free too. I'll re-join this discussion later on.
BuddyBigsby
03-13-2005, 04:47 AM
I'm pretty tired so excuse the incoherence.
I try and have a high tolerance for militant bands, as I do feel that it's a place where anyone can voice their beliefs, no matter how extreme, so long as someone with an opposing view is willing to voice theirs if they feel so. Sometimes it does go a bit far though. For example, there's a really popular band out here called Seven Generations. They're so militant and Vegan they could give EC a run for their money. At their shows they preach HARD against corporate America, eating meat, and selling out hardcore, etc. Now, I'm all for that, but when they say **** like "All cops are ****ing pigs that deserve to be shot on ****ing sight", that goes way too far and is obviously made out of ignorance and lack of taste and judgement. My parents are cops and **** like that hits home. So, I've decided not to support Seven Generations. I will never buy merch from them, I will not promote them, and if they are playing a show that I'm at, I will not watch them. This is something that I do very rarely. I'm not even opposing them or putting them down, I'm just choosing not to lend my support.
As for the Christian thing again, I can see what you're saying. However, I think it's evolved beyond being simply a counter-culture. Sure, it still exists in many factions but lyrical content is so across the board now that it's more of a sub-culture than anything. I don't exactly see singing about Christianity as "mirroring" the mainstream culture. I can see where you're coming from if their lyrics are simply blind gospel, that's about as BS as the Westernized Church. However, if a band focuses more on the moral aspects and empowerment of Christianity, then I fail to see how that is any different from straight-edge or youth crew, which I also see nothing wrong with.
To me, hardcore is about emotion and it is about passion. I tried metal for a while and even though I still listen to bands like Nevermore, Cryptopsy, stuff like that, it never really clicked with me. What attracted me to hardcore was the honesty, the sincerity, and the passion that you simply do not find in other forms of music. If a band wants to sing about how much they love Jesus, well then fine. At least they're passionate about something, and in a world where everything seems to be becoming more and more robotic and soulless, that's being a counter-culture if you ask me. So long as the band is truly passionate about what they're saying and not just saying it to sell more records to Facedown Recs' groupies.
Besides, some of the most underrated hardcore bands were Christian. Case in point: The Crucified, Strongarm, Overcome, etc.
tornpictures
03-13-2005, 05:08 AM
Edgers have also lost sight of their 'goals.'
Staying young by not taking drugs was the objective. Now it's being cool, etc.
People don't recognize Christianity as the threat that it is. Religion is holding people back all over the world.
cbmartinez
03-13-2005, 11:18 AM
Most of my lyrical inspiration comes from religion. I write about it a lot and usually the best/emotional songs that I write, I've had religion in mind. Why should I not write about something I feel so strongly about?
REINER
03-13-2005, 11:20 AM
Minor Threat - Filler, that's a basic idea of my beliefs on religion.
Mr. Ron
03-13-2005, 12:50 PM
Straight edge people also forget that you don't have to be vegitarian/vegan to be edge.....
NewKindofArmy03
03-13-2005, 01:03 PM
http://www.acommonground.de/_download/In_these_days.mp3
Check this band out if you're into that melodic hardcore/punk sound, it's pretty good.
CONNER_NWHC
03-13-2005, 02:47 PM
Minor Threat - Filler, that's a basic idea of my beliefs on religion.
What happened to you?
You're not the same
There's something in your head
Made a violent change
It's in your head
Filler
You call it religion
You're full of ****
Was she really worth it?
She cost you your life
You'll never leave her side
She's gonna be your wife
You call it romance
You're full of ****
Your brain is clay
What's going on?
You picked up a bible
And now you're gone
You call it religion
You're full of ****
Filler
Im down with that
shane italian
03-13-2005, 02:55 PM
My brothers apartment in Portland almost costs that much.You're brother got ripped off. Why anyone would pay that money to live in such a crappy state/city is beyond me.
oopyman
03-13-2005, 03:11 PM
From high up on yer crucifix
You preach about my triple 6
You spit about my this and that
And yank away yer welcome mat
With a coupon jesus christ will save
So don't you christians misbehave
'cuz santa makes the list himself
And he's rotting on the warehouse shelf
And all the boys in the straight-edge scene
are in the basement huffing gasoline
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!
And when the laws of God just make ya pissed
You better become an atheist
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!
When the greed of man is not appeased
All will rot sick and diseased
Once again the fallen towers
The Tortured death of every hour
And at the toll of the final bell
You lead the righteous down to hell
When all the world is dead by dawn
All I ask is bring me along!
And all the boys in the straight-edge scene
are in the basement huffing gasoline
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!
And when the laws of God just make ya pissed
You better become an atheist
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!
Nuclear Apox spells your doom
like the t.v. in yer living room
each bomb kills a million dead
it melts your skin and implodes yer head
And now you get yer judgement day
You think you'll float up then away
But yer guilty just like everyone
You turn to ash when the burning's done
And all the boys in the straight-edge scene
are in the basement huffing gasoline
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!
And when the laws of God just make ya pissed
You better become an atheist
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!
There's a hunger within you
a tapeworm deep inside
or maybe it's just cancer
the doctors can't decide
but yer stomach keeps on growing
as yer body wastes away
and yer getting ill & weaker
every single ****ing day
we are alone
we are alone
/\/\/\
Better than Filler.
NewKindofArmy03
03-13-2005, 03:14 PM
Minor Threat>LOC
shane italian
03-13-2005, 03:15 PM
F'uck both bands. Just post Deicide lyrics to get your point across.
NewKindofArmy03
03-13-2005, 03:16 PM
Less Deicide, More Minor Threat
shane italian
03-13-2005, 03:18 PM
Stryker
CONNER_NWHC
03-13-2005, 03:29 PM
turning point rule
oopyman
03-13-2005, 08:26 PM
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314550
Shane got pwned.
REINER
03-13-2005, 08:28 PM
Haha what did that dumbass do now?
oopyman
03-13-2005, 08:32 PM
He finally beat the system, but was shot down by joshmay. He's a martyr.
REINER
03-13-2005, 08:34 PM
Haha I should extend the ban just to piss him off. It'd be so entertaining.
EDIT: 12,000 posts son!
oopyman
03-13-2005, 08:36 PM
He's already gone two weeks. What's another two?
cbmartinez
03-13-2005, 08:42 PM
I don't get it?
cbmartinez
03-13-2005, 08:43 PM
Oh I see, that's lame that you get banned for that.
REINER
03-13-2005, 08:44 PM
It was some dumb thing in the pit.
oopyman
03-13-2005, 08:52 PM
joshmay is on a banning spree.
oopymanunit
03-13-2005, 08:56 PM
Ut oh.
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 09:08 PM
Seriously.
REINER
03-13-2005, 09:08 PM
Shane, you have the word faggot in your user title. That's grounds for banning.
oopymanunit
03-13-2005, 09:10 PM
:lol:
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 09:10 PM
Shane, you have the word faggot in your user title. That's grounds for banning.Hahahah, I just posted the word faggot in my last post.
REINER
03-13-2005, 09:12 PM
****, I missed my 12,000 post. Haha it was when I wanted to ban shane.
oopymanunit
03-13-2005, 09:13 PM
I bet you feel like a loser.
REINER
03-13-2005, 09:14 PM
I would normally, but my friend just told me he made a myspace so now I feel good about myself.
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 09:14 PM
I would normally, but my friend just told me he made a myspace so now I feel good about myself.Like I said before:
YOU'RE A MOD ON A MESSAGEBOARD.
REINER
03-13-2005, 09:17 PM
YOU WANT TO BE A MOD ON A MESSAGE BOARD.
oopymanunit
03-13-2005, 09:18 PM
I'm eating a donut.
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 09:18 PM
YOU WANT TO BE A MOD ON A MESSAGE BOARD.YEAH BUT I DON'T TRY TO ACT LIKE MYSPACE IS SOOOO UNCOOL WHEN I SPEND HALF MY DAY ON A MESSAGEBOARD
REINER
03-13-2005, 09:21 PM
Haha you have a myspace as well you shouldn't be talking. You spend just as much time on here as I do.
oopymanunit
03-13-2005, 09:24 PM
Incinerated.
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 09:26 PM
Haha you have a myspace as well you shouldn't be talking. You spend just as much time on here as I do....you're useless...
I DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT MYSPACE OR THE INTERNET
REINER
03-13-2005, 09:28 PM
YES YOU DO.
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 09:28 PM
YES YOU DO.NO I DON'T BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT I AM A FAGGOT BUT YOU DON'T SEEM TO ACCEPT THAT ABOUT YOURSELF
oopymanunit
03-13-2005, 09:30 PM
What kind of name is Reiner anyway?
REINER
03-13-2005, 09:30 PM
NO I DON'T BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT I AM A FAGGOT BUT YOU DON'T SEEM TO ACCEPT THAT ABOUT YOURSELF (haha said it yourself)
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 09:30 PM
And why is he Punk mod but spends all of his time in the good forum?
REINER
03-13-2005, 09:30 PM
What kind of name is Reiner anyway?German, it was my mother's maiden name and my Dad decided to be an *** and give me a goofy name.
And why is he Punk mod but spends all of his time in the good forum?Haha, I'm a super and the only thing that kept me from leaving months ago was when I found out I'm wasn't the only person into hardcore.
NewKindofArmy03
03-13-2005, 09:32 PM
NO I DON'T BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT I AM A FAGGOT BUT YOU DON'T SEEM TO ACCEPT THAT ABOUT YOURSELF
HAHAHA, you called yourself a faggot!
oopymanunit
03-13-2005, 09:33 PM
German, it was my mother's maiden name and my Dad decided to be an *** and give me a goofy name.
oic
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 09:33 PM
Youre All Faggots And Youre All Gonna Die
REINER
03-13-2005, 09:35 PM
HAHAHAHA.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-13-2005, 09:35 PM
Listen dudebros, just chill.
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 09:36 PM
Listen dudebros, just chill./slices pat's neck and f'ucks his esophogus
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-13-2005, 09:39 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
CONNER_NWHC
03-13-2005, 09:42 PM
Shane's pissed.
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 09:47 PM
http://img217.exs.cx/img217/7096/ownedchick2pi.gif
40 oz 2 freedom
03-13-2005, 09:51 PM
:lol:
PSYCHE
CONNER_NWHC
03-13-2005, 10:12 PM
http://www.nwhardcore.com/demos/instride/03%20Reach.mp3
peep it
Mr. Ron
03-13-2005, 10:13 PM
http://img217.exs.cx/img217/7096/ownedchick2pi.gif
LOL
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-13-2005, 10:15 PM
That's the fakest punch ever.
Mr. Ron
03-13-2005, 10:16 PM
F'uck both bands. Just post Deicide lyrics to get your point across.
Impale the body, scares of his flesh, hung up to die on the crucifixion, bleeding to breathe, cursing at god...Why!!!!!!!
The glory resurrection; live in wounds of recollection,
Who take his will unreasoned, naivete inside soul defeated?
Lascivious redemption, justify thy vile absence,
Propagate his aggression as you use his words as weapons.
Lies now have you lost, the worthless cause of the crucifixion.
The sanctity, to hang and bleed, and in the form of a human cross.
Blind by prophecy, his bible fiend, a bloody sword of his fantasy.
Tried for heresy, and sacrilege, to bare the scars of the crucifix.
You walk alone with Jesus, in a world of non-believers,
Humiliated savior, Is thy son of heavens failure,
For ever left undone, on the cross for everyone,
His words of god unheard, he is dead and not concerned.
God fatality, the life recedes on the cross of his sign,
Finality, in search of peace, to beg and plead for the end that will be,
The light descends, when suffering, impaled again for your blasphemous lies.
Resented death, his sins confessed, accept the scars of the crucifix.
Sad in your sorrow, withered within, stand in the shadow of all of our sins, you are the son, choke on his blood...Die!!!!!!
:wave:
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 10:40 PM
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/8573/holddat4bf.gif
victimofreality
03-13-2005, 10:47 PM
You're brother got ripped off. Why anyone would pay that money to live in such a crappy state/city is beyond me.
It's his on campus housing. He has three roommates, and they each pay 500 a month. But Portland is one of my favorite cities ever. Irvine sucks.
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 10:48 PM
It's his on campus housing. He has three roommates, and they each pay 500 a month. But Portland is one of my favorite cities ever. Irvine sucks.Hahah, I could argue but you obviously have never been to SoCal before.
victimofreality
03-13-2005, 10:52 PM
Ha, you want to go to UC Merced. Merced is the biggest craphole in the entire state. You could get into that school without trying.
40 oz 2 freedom
03-13-2005, 10:53 PM
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/8573/holddat4bf.gif
I can't stop watching it.
victimofreality
03-13-2005, 10:54 PM
Hahah, I could argue but you obviously have never been to SoCal before.
I went to Disneyland with my cousin two years ago. I would never want to live somewhere where it takes 2 hours to drive 20 miles.
obese_breasts
03-13-2005, 10:55 PM
Are Shane and Reiner having another bitchfest?
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 10:55 PM
I went to Disneyland with my cousin two years ago. I would never want to live somewhere where it takes 2 hours to drive 20 miles.Nice way to be completely stereotypical.
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 10:56 PM
Ha, you want to go to UC Merced. Merced is the biggest craphole in the entire state. You could get into that school without trying.Yeah, you're going to college in ****ty midwest.
And yes, I could get into UC Merced without trying BECAUSE IT'S STILL BEING BUILT
SactoUnited
03-13-2005, 10:58 PM
Did Shanes regular account recieve a ban?
victimofreality
03-13-2005, 11:08 PM
Nice way to be completely stereotypical.
Ha! Stereotypical. Maybe I will go do some work on my farm, while listening to country western music and chewing tobacco. After all, I am a farm boy.
Yeah, you're going to college in ****ty midwest.
And yes, I could get into UC Merced without trying BECAUSE IT'S STILL BEING BUILT
And you are the one who wants to go back to Texas because you love it so much.
That, and the fact that no one wants to go their because NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN A ****HOLE LIKE MERCED. It's funny how you were talking about how you wanted to become a good student so that you could go to a good school, and now are talking about going to Merced. My dog could get into Merced. I didn't take the SAT 2 and had guaranteed admission there.
Texas or Irvine Shane. Make up your ****ing mind. They both suck, but you should at least decide on one.
CONNER_NWHC
03-13-2005, 11:08 PM
Are Shane and Reiner having another bitchfest?
Shane got banned and took it out on us. well reiner.
shane italiano
03-13-2005, 11:12 PM
Ha! Stereotypical. Maybe I will go do some work on my farm, while listening to country western music and chewing tobacco. After all, I am a farm boy.
And you are the one who wants to go back to Texas because you love it so much.
That, and the fact that no one wants to go their because NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN A ****HOLE LIKE MERCED. It's funny how you were talking about how you wanted to become a good student so that you could go to a good school, and now are talking about going to Merced. My dog could get into Merced. I didn't take the SAT 2 and had guaranteed admission there.
Texas or Irvine Shane. Make up your ****ing mind. They both suck, but you should at least decide on one.UC MERCED ISN'T EVEN OPEN YET! DUH THEY'RE GIVING KID'S GURANTEED ADMISSIONS
And no, Irvine rules. I have basically everything within 20 minutes of my house. Beach, Malls, Theme parks, skateparks, hills, venues, etc. And I obviously love Texas because I GREW UP THERE.
SactoUnited
03-13-2005, 11:13 PM
Is your regular account a lifetime ban this time?
And why'd you get banned this time?
oopymanunit
03-13-2005, 11:17 PM
He pwned joshmay, and was crucified for it.
SactoUnited
03-13-2005, 11:19 PM
why are you on a diff account?
oopymanunit
03-13-2005, 11:22 PM
I got banned.
SactoUnited
03-13-2005, 11:24 PM
How?
obese_breasts
03-13-2005, 11:25 PM
what for?
.Realm.of.Chaos.
03-13-2005, 11:54 PM
Anyone in here like All That Remains (don't know if they'd be considered, metalcore, hardcore or what not)
oopymanunit
03-13-2005, 11:55 PM
I spammed in a thread made by joshmay that said anyone who spammed in it would get banned. I'm so punk rawk.
CONNER_NWHC
03-14-2005, 12:34 AM
Should i go see Rise against ? Even though alexisonfire bring a terrible crowd.
SactoUnited
03-14-2005, 12:35 AM
Im not really a fan of melodic hxc but go if you must.
El_Shiznit
03-14-2005, 12:39 AM
Should i go see Rise against ? Even though alexisonfire bring a terrible crowd.
I'm going to that.
Every band supporting them = sh!t
But it's Rise Against, whom I love. I'm thinking about showing up late.
CONNER_NWHC
03-14-2005, 12:40 AM
Im gunna have to start hardcore dancing.
honkybrewster
03-14-2005, 12:44 AM
I missed a Trivium show tonight. Dammit.
BuddyBigsby
03-14-2005, 02:46 AM
Reiner, paypal me 5 bucks and I'll take care of Shane for you next time I see him.
shane italiano
03-14-2005, 09:18 AM
I will dominate you.
sketchyjoe
03-14-2005, 12:48 PM
Any hardcore guys wanting to write a mini-description of one of the hardcore albums in the Top 100 punk albums (or any album) please go here:
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314767
REINER
03-14-2005, 01:17 PM
I might do a few of them. Depends if I find the time.
I'm missing 7 Seconds and Champion tonight. ****ing pissed off.
NewKindofArmy03
03-14-2005, 02:10 PM
They played here last night, i'll go read how it was.
tornpictures
03-14-2005, 02:14 PM
Are Comeback Kid popular?
NewKindofArmy03
03-14-2005, 02:15 PM
Yeah, they're definately going to blow up more then they already did this year. They have commercials on MTV2 and will have a video on Headbangers Ball probably.
BuddyBigsby
03-14-2005, 02:41 PM
Yeah, CBK are going to blow up real soon I bet.
cbmartinez
03-14-2005, 02:45 PM
I don't think they'll get very big considering kids are still in the Atreyu, Drop C "hardcore" phase. Comeback Kid will just sound like a boring punk band to them.
BuddyBigsby
03-14-2005, 02:47 PM
Well I don't think they'll hit big with that crowd, but with the general MTV2 audience.
cbmartinez
03-14-2005, 02:51 PM
MTV2 Crowd= the "hardcore" kids I mentioned who sit around all day waiting to see a Bleeding Through video and the reruns of battle for ozzfest or headbangers ball.
BuddyBigsby
03-14-2005, 03:04 PM
Bleeding Through are a scary band. I wonder if my parents will let me buy their CD.
chips88
03-14-2005, 03:14 PM
So, I don't think I can go to the With Honor/Bane/Champion show. Or was it Comeback Kid and not Champion? Idk, all I know is that I probably can't go!
BuddyBigsby
03-14-2005, 03:18 PM
CBK
I'll be there.
NewKindofArmy03
03-14-2005, 03:23 PM
Bleeding Through are a scary band. I wonder if my parents will let me buy their CD.
Hahaha, I remember that.
CBK will definately get bigger though, and they're already huge.
cbmartinez
03-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Bleeding Through are a scary band. I wonder if my parents will let me buy their CD.
**** YOU BITCH
cbmartinez
03-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Hahaha, I remember that.
YOU TOO
NewKindofArmy03
03-14-2005, 03:26 PM
FIGHT ME
cbmartinez
03-14-2005, 03:27 PM
Xcapsxlockx Bring It Bitch
I'm Not Scared Of Anything Besides Bleeding Through
BuddyBigsby
03-14-2005, 03:36 PM
http://www.trustkill.com/bands/bios/images/bleedingthrough_bio_pic.gif
cbmartinez
03-14-2005, 03:40 PM
Acapellica sucks.
/low blow
NewKindofArmy03
03-14-2005, 03:42 PM
Not if he does a Slayer cover.
cbmartinez
03-14-2005, 03:43 PM
except bass, which is not included unless there is a fill where it is needed, because frankly, bass sucks *** and nobody likes bass. Go home bass, GO HOME BASS!
Dem fightin' words.
Mr. Ron
03-14-2005, 03:43 PM
can't we all get along? :upset:
http://www.dommod.ru/I/597/DIMMU%20BORGIR.jpg
NewKindofArmy03
03-14-2005, 03:45 PM
Dem fightin' words.
Haha, I remembered that when the bassist in my band said if we go tough guy, he would leave. I recited that to him.
BuddyBigsby
03-14-2005, 04:03 PM
Dem fightin' words.
GO PLAY SOME SINGLE NOTES, PUSSY
REAL MEN PLAY GUITAR
cbmartinez
03-14-2005, 04:04 PM
I play guitar too! You could obviously tell that from my amazing tabbing abilities (Guns Up!).
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