Hardcore Community Thread

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

This isn't the same person sorry.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Get yer own account!

[cbmartinez]

Man, that Carry On avatar makes me happy.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I had this avatar when I first joined I think. I brought it back because it is such a cool album cover. Such a great album too.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, that and Turn It Around are the two hardcore album covers that stuck in my mind.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Turn It Around is my MSN messenger display picture.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Someone gets rep if they can tell me what cd cover is my avatar. My user title gives it away.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Someone gets rep if they can tell me what cd cover is my avatar. My user title gives it away.
Go It Alone - Vancouver Gold

WOO REP++

[CONNER_NWHC]

Good Work enjoy the rep.

[CONNER_NWHC]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/noneed66/pstr.jpg

That will be amazing.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

You get rep as soon as I find people worthy for rep from me.

Do you see Go It Alone and Blue Monday every week??

[shane italian]

Does anyone know who else is singing in the Last Dayz cd [Death Threat].

[cbmartinez]

Go It Alone- featuring members of N.E.R.D.

What the?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I'm guessing it's some inside joke.

Listen to Go It Alone. They rule.

[chips88]

Holy ****. I love Set Your Goals. www.purevolume.com/setyourgoals

Posi band from San Fran. They sound like a mix between Lifetime, Fastbreak, and Stretch Arm Strong.

Nice :thumb:

[cbmartinez]

Hey Buddy and Shane, Calico System is touring with The Warriors around CA. If get the chance, you should definitely check out Calico System. I'm in love with them at the moment.

[shane italian]

I'll check it out.

June 24 = 2 HOUR ROAD TRIP TO VENTURA

Down To Nothing
Kids Like Us
Hit the Deck

OH ****!

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Shane, do you know who does backing vocals on 'Goonies Never Say Die' at about 1:17? I recognize that voice.
!!!

[CONNER_NWHC]

Snap kids like us would be awsome live.

[REINER]

X We are thrilled to announce that we are hitting the studio in feburary to record songs for our upcoming split release with South Carolina legends SLAMDUNK. X

X Our debut release will be put out by South Carolina's Crowbars Up Records. X

X We are really excited to do the split, which will contain a few songs from the demo which we will rerecord as well as some crucial new hits! X

X Also, be on the lookout for a possible NJ show sometime in the near future, as well as news on another split release and maybe even a full length X

X keep it crunk X

LOVE
X ONE WAY X http://www.thenjscene.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=121776&sid=537a2d6c7abe4a6f3165aa30bba99d23

[obese_breasts]

I'll check it out.

June 24 = 2 HOUR ROAD TRIP TO VENTURA

Down To Nothing
Kids Like Us
Hit the Deck

OH ****!

Mabye I'll meet you there

[REINER]

Kids Like Us rule. There split with Down to Nothing rules.

[shane italian]

Down To Nothing are better, but I still love Kids Like Us.

And Griff, you should come. How far is SB from Ventura?

[cbmartinez]

http://www.thenjscene.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=121776&sid=537a2d6c7abe4a6f3165aa30bba99d23

Nice. Hopefully I can see them. In my Thursday FA Bill said "I have a strange feeling you haven't seen the last of The Procedure" in response to my comment about not being able to see them.

[REINER]

Yeah, check their site and myspace. They're hinting towards something aswell.

[obese_breasts]

Down To Nothing are better, but I still love Kids Like Us.

And Griff, you should come. How far is SB from Ventura?

Like 40min drive

[cbmartinez]

Haha, I'm listening to Aborted Jesus, one of Bill's old bands. They're pretty funny. Reiner, have you heard anything by The Purpose? On The Procedure's myspace, it says Bill used to be in a band called The Purpose.

[REINER]

Heard of them from Bill's site www.billhenderson.org. Never listened to them.

http://www.billhenderson.org/media/mp3/purpose/

Some mp3s of them.

[cbmartinez]

Eh, they're not that great. Aborted Jesus is comical though.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Heard of them from Bill's site www.billhenderson.org. Never listened to them.

http://www.billhenderson.org/media/mp3/purpose/

Some mp3s of them.
They actually sound pretty good.

[cbmartinez]

Hahahaha, "Generic Hardcore Song" is so good. I love the part where he's talking.

[NewKindofArmy03]

If they were a serious band, they'd be one of my favorite newer bands. I really like that style of hardcore.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Bands so far are IRON CROSS, MADBALL, SUBZERO, SKARHEAD (1 time reunion), MERAUDER, MAXIMUM PENALTY, SON OF SKAM (reunion), VIETNOM, NO REDEEMING SOCIAL VALUE, REJUVENATE (reunion), FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS (BAD BRAINS/CRO MAGS cover band featuring JOHN JOSEPH cro mags and CRAIG AHEAD of sick of it all) EGH, BILLYCLUB SANDWICH, MURDERERS ROW, STOUT (Baltimore H.C.) Possibly BLOOD FOR BLOOD as well as many other POSSIBLE SUPRISES who still have to be confirmed.

This is about the superbowl of hardcore VI in NYC. D'amn, that's an awesome show.

[REINER]

What venue is this? I'm going, and I'm going to pray I don't get killed.

[NewKindofArmy03]

It doesn't say, but the show is March 26th. Haha, you always worry about being killed.

[Johnny EPHC]

:( Converge annoy me. I'm alone in the crowd!
No you're not. The guitar playing is amazing but the vocals bug me.

[REINER]

It doesn't say, but the show is March 26th. Haha, you always worry about being killed.At a B4b show somewhere out in PA a bunch of Nazi people busted in and beat the **** out of everyone, someone died.

Besides I hate having to worry about being hit when I try to watch a band. It sucks getting punched in the face at a show.

[shane italian]

At a B4b show somewhere out in PA a bunch of Nazi people busted in and beat the **** out of everyone, someone died.Where is FSU when you need them?

[NewKindofArmy03]

When I saw Madball, a huge fight broke out and there was cops and ambulances outside after the show.

[REINER]

I know honestly.

At a Terror/Unearth show this guy got beat so bad ambulances came and the cops shut it down before Unearth.

In more X One Way X news, they might do a split with The Breakout on Try Dying Rec.

[Johnny EPHC]

I'm trying to explain what a breakdown is to one of my friends, but I'm having little success. How you would you guys define one? I know one when I hear it, but I can't explain it well.

[NewKindofArmy03]

That split would be great, I would definately buy it.

I haven't heard the other band on the other split.

[shane italian]

When I saw Madball, a huge fight broke out and there was cops and ambulances outside after the show.When I first moved here, Terror played with Champion and SKOH and my cousin bailed on me. Well my friend said that some kid stole merch, and FSU/DFT beat the **** out of the kid in the street. Like threw bikes and stuff on him. Then it went out in the street, stopped traffic, and anyone who got in the way got beat up. He said there were a ton of cops that tazored a few guys and helicoptor.

[REINER]

The Breakout? http://www.purevolume.com/thebreakout

Their Ep rules.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I'm trying to explain what a breakdown is to one of my friends, but I'm having little success. How you would you guys define one? I know one when I hear it, but I can't explain it well.
Just show him a song with a breakdown and then say "This is the breakdown" then whip out your weiner.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I know the Breakout, I meant on the other one.

I heard about that kid getting beat up, but I didn't know about tazors and a helicoptor, that's crazy.

A bunch of people are bagging on With Honor on the B9 boards because they set up a paypal account for donations.

[shane italian]

B9 boards are lame. Almost as lame as instrife.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I know honestly.

At a Terror/Unearth show this guy got beat so bad ambulances came and the cops shut it down before Unearth.
Well something good happened.

[REINER]

HAha, Joe Hardcore is pissed about it. I read his post.

Wait, you mean xOne Wayx then?

[cbmartinez]

Hahahaha

[cbmartinez]

I think he means Slamdunk.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Well something good happened.
Unearth>Atreyu

[NewKindofArmy03]

I think he means Slamdunk.
Yeah, them. I was to lazy to go back once I was already in the 'reply to thread' thing.

[REINER]

Ohh, Haha I'm an idiot.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Unearth>Atreyu
:upset:

[shane italian]

:upset:STUFFED!

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I saw Set Your Goals mentioned earlier. I saw them in december with RJ and Mental. They were awesome. I think I mentioned them in pop-punk once.

[NewKindofArmy03]

SYG are cool, I listened to them back in the summer.

[xFourStringGrenadex]

Anyone interested in the new Symphony In Peril album? It comes out February 15. From the stuff I've heard, it's rad man.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Thanks to whoever repped.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

'Twas me.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Also me

*waits for thank you rep*

[BuddyBigsby]

Hey Buddy and Shane, Calico System is touring with The Warriors around CA. If get the chance, you should definitely check out Calico System. I'm in love with them at the moment.

I love Calico System. I saw their first show in Cali, right after they put out their CD and was the only one into them. I rule. Now they're pretty popular :(

[cbmartinez]

BleedthesKY told me about them. I haven't heard anyone else mention them but I'm in love with the song "Love Will Kill All."

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah, that's a great song. I just love their style.

[victimofreality]

The Breakout? http://www.purevolume.com/thebreakout

Their Ep rules.
What are the other MP3s that you have from?

[cbmartinez]

The Breakout are nasty.

[BuddyBigsby]

I don't think anyone in here cares, but I think Scarlet broke up again. They haven't done anything in months, the last thing I heard from them was that their bassist left... and now it looks like they sold their domain name and don't have a website.

[cbmartinez]

I never got around to listen to the Cd you reviewed. Cult Classic was it?

[BuddyBigsby]

'Twas.

[BuddyBigsby]

Next Acapellica song....

Firestorm?

[capri sun junkie]

Next Acapellica song....

Firestorm?

Do it!

Or else you should do an American Nightmare song, you kind of remind me of Wes.

[BuddyBigsby]

I do too. It would probably be AM/PM or Please Die! if I did AN.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I like Scarlet.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Next Acapellica song....

Firestorm?
YES!

[young, loud and andrew]

Thanks to Shane, I've decided to come back. I missed you all terribly.

I've been enjoying the following recently:
Have Heart
Bury Your Dead
Iron and Wine
Copeland
Set Your Goals
The Arcade Fire
The Killers
Death From Above 1979
Sinking Ships
Anterrabae
the new Comeback Kid album
etc.

[BridgeToSolace]

Anterrabae is awesome.

[young, loud and andrew]

Yes, they are. They took a while to grow on me, but after seeing them live twice (they are semi-local... Long Island is close enough to Manhattan) I started getting into them.

I'm adding Verse to my list as well. Shane-- I can send you the full length now.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I still never listened to Verse, i've been meaning to for a while now.

I'm probably gonna go buy the new Forward to Death cd. If I send the receipt in to Perfect Victim records, I get a free cd of my choice and entered in a contest to win an iPod Shuffle.

[young, loud and andrew]

myspace.com/verse

[cbmartinez]

Copeland, ewwwww.

Anterrabae is awesome.

They're playing a local venue around here with Twelve Tribes or something.

[Andross]

what would KsE fall under?

[cbmartinez]

Metal, maybe metalcore.

[tornpictures]

Thanks to Shane, I've decided to come back. I missed you all terribly.

I've been enjoying the following recently:
Have Heart
Bury Your Dead
Iron and Wine
Copeland
Set Your Goals
The Arcade Fire
The Killers
Death From Above 1979
Sinking Ships
Anterrabae
the new Comeback Kid album
etc.

I don't really dig any of those bands.

Death From Above 1979 are really ****ty.
I hate those guys.. their singer is a real *******. A friend of mine did two shows for them and he complained about EVERYTHING. 50+ kids came to see them and he was all like '**** you, noone came out, bla bla bla' and started breaking stuff.
Said friend was done with booking shows after that.
This was when they were still called DFA.

[young, loud and andrew]

That's nice. I haven't had personal interaction with them so I really don't care. They still kick ***.

[BuddyBigsby]

That's just one of torn's crucial 'I KNOW THAT GUY' posts.

[tornpictures]

That's nice. I haven't had personal interaction with them so I really don't care. They still kick ***.

No, they're ****ing assholes.

They changed their name to DFA 1979 because the label wanted them to.

[young, loud and andrew]

Dude... I don't ****ing care. They make good music.

[tornpictures]

"TF! HAVE HEART "what counts""

Having heart is what counts.

Obviously DFA don't share my opinion.

[NewKindofArmy03]

myspace.com/verse
Myspace has been a bitch with me the past month, the player never loads.

[REINER]

What are the other MP3s that you have from?I have the rfest of the EP, they're demo and 1 unreleased song back when they were a pop-punk band. Their demo sounds nothing like the EP except they still play 1 song from it.
Next Acapellica song....

Firestorm?Do this or I will get you banned.


Punkerx you live in NYC or by it right? Going to Bane in march?

[CONNER_NWHC]

No, they're ****ing assholes.

They changed their name to DFA 1979 because the label wanted them to.
They added the '1979' because there was going to be a law suit with a company in Toronto.

[young, loud and andrew]

Punkerx you live in NYC or by it right? Going to Bane in march?

I live in Manhattan, and yes, I will most surely be at that show. I found a loop hole so I can come home from school for that night.

[young, loud and andrew]

"TF! HAVE HEART "what counts""

Having heart is what counts.

Obviously DFA don't share my opinion.

I thought you got over this whole elitist thing. They are a good band... I don't care if you're best friend's brother's cousin had one bad experience with them. That's a stupid way to judge a band.

[REINER]

Awesome, I'll see you there. Do you know if Cb's is selling tickets are not? I heard both they were and weren't.

[luck7sy]

If you look in the first pages (not sure which) but some thing was said about throwdown. I believe that they are actually hXc but only because of there additude of there playing. There are a lot of other great bands that come out of Trust Kill Records like:Bleeding through, Poison the Well, and Open hand.

This is my first threat and I use this site a lot just I signed up because some moron said blink 182 was punk

[tornpictures]

I thought you got over this whole elitist thing. They are a good band... I don't care if you're best friend's brother's cousin had one bad experience with them. That's a stupid way to judge a band.

What's that got to do with elitism?

A band having heart and being sincere is seriously important to me.
Enthusiasm does alot for me.

[young, loud and andrew]

Awesome, I'll see you there. Do you know if Cb's is selling tickets are not? I heard both they were and weren't.

Sweet... there's a kid from NJ on the Thrice boards who is also coming.

I have no idea what the ticket situation is-- I know the family that owns CB's so I don't need to buy tickets... that or radiotakeover will hook me up.

I think there's a link for tickets in general on CB's website... see if they are there.

I read on the With Honor boards that they covered "Start Today" at a few recent shows. I would love to see them play it in NYC.

[toolfan462]

Before I get started with this, I have a few statements to make. Yes, I am new at this forum and no I did not read all of this thread, so someone may have posted this already. Why does anyone care about these subcategories? Are you not going to listen to something just because it's hardcore and your a metalcore fan? I am seriously not trying to offend anybody here. I would really like to know. To me, each of these bands belongs in a category I like to call music. If you like it, cool. If not, oh well. I have never been into subdividing these groups into these technical categories. I still see it as all being rock, whether it is metal, nu-metal, hardcore, or post-harcore-grinding-metal-surfer-jazz-fusion-c*ck-rockin-country.

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah, listen to some of those bands and you'll actually understand why you can't just call it all 'music'.

[toolfan462]

Actually, you could call it all music. Music is personal preference. While I do not consider rap music, many people (and God bless those challenged souls j/k) consider that to be music. I listen to everything from KsE to The Used to Lamb of God to Nailbomb to Tool to Steve Vai to Chemical Brothers to DJ Tiesto to Mozart to Eric Clapton (I think you get it). Im just wondering why so many people think that grouping one of their favorite bands into the "wrong" category offends them so much. And by the way, thanks for not throwing a sh*t fit about my post.

[BuddyBigsby]

If you're referring to us getting pissy in this thread, it's because hardcore is more than just a genre of music. It's a subculture with it's own set of ethics and beliefs, and something a lot of kids hold dear to their hearts. So when someone calls a very obviously un-hardcore band like Killswitch Engage hardcore, yeah, they get offended. It's not that there's anything wrong with that band, but they simply are not hardcore.

The other problem is that the difference between hardcore and 'metalcore' is really so vast that calling say Lamb of God or Atreyu hardcore (which I've seen many times on this board) is nearly the equivalent of calling Dream Theater punk rock.

[toolfan462]

I can see your point. I believe that music is the number one way of life for me right now. But Im not going to get mad at someone because they said Hatebreed was hardcore when they are actually metalcore, or vice versa. I guess Im too simple of a person. I just believe that if you put restraints on yourself such as categories, then you will not be able to grow as a musician or a music lover. And again, thanks for all of the feedback.

P.S. What would you consider Lamb Of God and Killswitch Engage?

[REINER]

American Metal I guess of LoG, I don't listen to them a lot, nor know a lot about them.

Killswitch is Metalcore though.

[shane italian]

Copeland, ewwwww.Are you crazy?

[young, loud and andrew]

word. Copeland is sick.

Just because you like hardcore doesn't mean that you can't like any other genres. I love pop punk and cheesey metalcore, among other hated genres.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Thanks to Shane, I've decided to come back. I missed you all terribly.

I've been enjoying the following recently:
Have Heart
Bury Your Dead
Iron and Wine
Copeland
Set Your Goals
The Arcade Fire
The Killers
Death From Above 1979
Sinking Ships
Anterrabae
the new Comeback Kid album
etc.
123 for the bold ones. And cool you're back.

[BuddyBigsby]

And now he's cooler than all of us because he has hook ups :upset:

[CONNER_NWHC]

123 for the bold ones. And cool you're back.
Sinking ships rule, they just got added to the bane show in seattle.

[cbmartinez]

Copeland is bad. I don't understand you guys.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Sinking ships rule, they just got added to the bane show in seattle.
I want to get a copy of their demo. I've got no american moneys though.

[NewKindofArmy03]

www.myspace.com/paintitblack
Since myspace's player never works for me anymore, i'm relying on you all to tell me if the new song is any good. Now go listen!

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

It's pretty good. I haven't listened to them in a while. This song seems to be an improvement on the stuff on CVA.

[REINER]

I thought it was ok. Didn't like it more than CVA, but I only know like 2 songs off of CVA. The song was good when there wasn't a lot of just mroe like noise to it.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I downloaded the live video of Short Fuse by No Warning from Hellfest 2003. It's played super super fast, it's almost funny in the verses.

[BuddyBigsby]

Check out the video. I can see a very very blurry version of me a couple times.

http://www.1917records.com/media-gunsup.html

[CONNER_NWHC]

What do you look like?

[shane italian]

I stole my car for that show.

[BuddyBigsby]

What do you look like?

I really don't think you'd be able to see me by description... but I go by in the circle pit a few times and I'm standing at the back towards the end. Black pageninetynine shirt (but its too blurry to read the band name or even see the picture), theres a small white logo on the back of the shirt near the neck, and the front of the shirt just looks like a big white square. I have a sort of awkward posture, dark hair.

[metalmeat]

Has anyone heard of the band Dead to Fall? Just out of curiosity, are they considered metal, hardcore, or metalcore? thanks

[young, loud and andrew]

And now he's cooler than all of us because he has hook ups :upset:

*is not cool*


Everyone go listen to have heart--purevolume.com/haveheart.

[victimofreality]

Reiner, you haven't answered me yet. What is up with Between Arms?

[REINER]

Reiner, you haven't answered me yet. What is up with Between Arms?It's over. That ended in the summer.

Dead to Fall is Metalcore, I was just listening to them in the car.

[cbmartinez]

Dead To Fall is more metal than metalcore, I'd say.

[chips88]

They're ok, I liked their older album better. And once I heard Unearth and Shadows Fall, most everything else that sounds a little like them pales in comparison.

[cbmartinez]

Buddy, I don't see you in that video. Unless your the dude with the video camera up front.

[BuddyBigsby]

Nope. I only go by a couple times, like I said, I don't think you could find me unless someone physically pointed me out.

[BuddyBigsby]

*is not cool*


Everyone go listen to have heart--purevolume.com/haveheart.

They were at that show with Guns Up! that I posted the video of. I was blown away and have been listening to the EP non-stop ever since.

And Dead to Fall are just breakdown. I'm making that a genre. Symphony in Peril and Remembering Never are in there too.

[young, loud and andrew]

I don't think I saw the video. Anyway, the demo and the EP are fantastic. AND, they have mesh shorts... maybe I'll buy 'em sometime.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I just listened to Guns Up and Have Heart because of Buddy and punkerx99's posts. Both sound really good.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, that breakdown thing towards the end of the Guns Up! video sounded awesome.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I like the breakdown in the other song they have up there (How It's Done) better.

[cbmartinez]

/listens

/agrees

[chips88]

That Have Heart is pretty good stuff. I learn about so many bands on this thread, its not even funny.

[cbmartinez]

This thread is now like 90% Hardcore/9% Metalcore/1% Copeland Education. I'm learning a lot more about hardcore.

[young, loud and andrew]

^ likewise.


Have Heart's website can be found via howsyouredge.com or thinkfastrecords.com

They often get paired with Youth Attack--purevolume.com/youthattack. I haven't heard much of their stuff, but I know Shane likes them a lot.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Youth Attack are all 16 right?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yeah, they might be a little older now, but i'm not sure.

Dead to Fall are just generic metalcore, but the song I heard wasn't that bad. I wouldn't buy one of their cds or anything though.

[shane italian]

Man I love Adora.

I WILL DIE STRONG! NOT FALLEN A DISGRACE!

[cbmartinez]

Shane, your user title is like taleoftwocitiescore.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I think I saw you in the video Buddy.

[cbmartinez]

Also Shane, I was looking at some of your old threads and I checked out Since By Man. Damn, they own! I'm digging these purevolume songs hardcore.

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

Also Shane, I was looking at some of your old threads and I checked out Since By Man. Damn, they own! I'm digging these purevolume songs hardcore.
:eek: I know those guys! Like, I've met them when I went to Milwauke with my father! I hadn't even heard their stuff but they said they were in a band called Since By Man and said I should come to a show, but I couldn't because we were leaving that night. Unless theres another band called that in Millwauke then it's a small world.

[BuddyBigsby]

Hahaha, that's a great story.

Seriously though, Since By Man pwn.

[young, loud and andrew]

This thread is now like 90% Hardcore/9% Metalcore/1% Copeland Education. I'm learning a lot more about hardcore.

Seriously, go listen to Copeland. They are amazing.

[REINER]

http://revhq.com/store.revhq?Page=search&Id=REV128&T=1
The Shai Hulud Retrospective is out. I kind of want it.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I still never listened to them, maybe I should do that now.

[REINER]

Their first full length is probably, they're best release. It took me a bit to get into. They're kind of like The Procedure as in hardcore but not like just 4 chords, breakdown 4 chords.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Do you have the new Forward to Death cd. If so, is it any good? Perfect Victim has this thing where I can send them a receipt and get a free cd of my choice from them too.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I need a Shai Hulud album. What's their best?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Their first full length is probably, they're best release.
Eh, i'm going to say their first full length is probably their best release. :)

[REINER]

I'm going to get it if I got see them with Kill Your Idols and Crime in Stereo in a few weeks. I heard it's good.

Hearts once Nourished with Hope & Compassion is SH best album.

Hehe, I'm trying to do like 5 things at once right now and I'm so confused.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Eh, i'm going to say their first full length is probably their best release. :)
Yeah, I didn't see that before I posted mine. Is it a different singer on Hearts Once Nourished than on That Within...?

[shane italian]

I prefer That Within Blood Ill Tempered or whatever it's called.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I prefer That Within Blood Ill Tempered or whatever it's called.
I seem to like what I've heard from this album better. Actually come to think of it, I've downloaded most of it.

[REINER]

I think Geert van der Velde did vocals on their releases and Chad was never recorded just because he wasn't in the band anytime they recorded. I don't know though.

I have their 2 full lengths. live set from Hellfest, Split 7" and a Bad brains cover on my pc if anyone is interested.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I think all the Shai Hulud stuff I have I downloaded from you anyway. I think I'll get the rest of That Within Blood Ill-Tempered from you now.

I have a video from Hellfest (I think 2002) of them doing Set Your Body Ablaze. It's ****ing awesome, a great live performance, and even the sound on the recording sounds great.

[REINER]

Haha ok. I'm looking for the new CD right now. I found it but I'm like 100 inline. So i'm just going to leave my PC on.

[REINER]

I remember someone posted a Shai Hulud Band Profile in here. Who was it? I want to read it.

[REINER]

Found it, haha isn't this Gotkookie's account when him and Shane decided to get banned? I haven't seen him around in awhile. I may just have to steal his profile. Review my band profile Im gonna put up when this account can make a new thread...

Shai hulud
Current lineup:
Vocals (Currently searching)
Guitar - Matt fox
Drums - Tony tintari
Bass - Matt fletcher

Years playing:
1995 - 2004

Homeland:
Florida, Currently in NY

Discography:
Profound hatred of a man (1997)
Shai hulud/Indecision - Fall of every man (1998)
Hearts once nourished with hope and compassion (1998)
Shai hulud/Another victim - A whole new level of sickness (2000)
That within blood ill tempered (2003)

Other band members
Jared Allen (bass)
Chris Cardinal (drums)
Oliver Chapoy (guitar)
Chad Gilbert (vocals)
Steve Kleisath (drums)
Damien Moyal (vocals)
Dave Silber (bass)
Geert Van der Velde (vocals)

Biography:
Shai Hulud comes from Frank Herbert's science fiction epic series, Dune. Shai Hulud are the giant sandworms on the desert planet Arrakis (also known as Dune). Although they are called many different names, when the sandworms are referred to as SHAI-HULUD, it usually indicates the worm as on object of worship in Fremen (natives of Dune) superstitions.

I wish I could find a history for you guys, I looked really hard, I cant find enough info to write my own.

Suggested songs:
My heart bleeds the darkest blood
Set your body ablaze
If born from this soil
Being exemplary
Whether to cry or destroy

No links sorry, they dont post links.

Shai hulud side projects:
Zombie Apocalypse (Current side project)
Boddicker (abandoned)

Last show : July 25 2004

More info (http://www.hulud.com/faq.html)

[victimofreality]

That is a horrible biography.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

So Geert Van der Velde was on all of the recordings, Damien Moyal only did a demo with them, and Chad Gilbert only played shows with them.

[REINER]

I guess so. If I take this profile I need to fix it up.

[young, loud and andrew]

No-- Chad did vocals for the first full length-- Hearts Once Nourished and Filled With Compassion.

[victimofreality]

That Within Blood - Ill Tempered Is my favorite cd of theirs.

[REINER]

I just realized I never heard their other split 7". Need to find that now.

I don't think they have/had any original members left in the band.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I think all the Shai Hulud stuff I have I downloaded from you anyway. I think I'll get the rest of That Within Blood Ill-Tempered from you now.

I have a video from Hellfest (I think 2002) of them doing Set Your Body Ablaze. It's ****ing awesome, a great live performance, and even the sound on the recording sounds great.
If anyone's seen this, who is doing vocals on it?

[young, loud and andrew]

I think Matt Fox was always in the band... correct me if I'm wrong though.

[REINER]

Would have been Geert van der Velde since Chad was NFG at the time. Unless, he played in both at 1 time.
I think Matt Fox was always in the band... correct me if I'm wrong though.Maybe, all I know is they've had a million lineup changes.

[young, loud and andrew]

Who knows? I remember the booklet saying Chad was doing vocals though.

[BuddyBigsby]

I need a Shai Hulud album. What's their best?

Hearts Once Nourished with Hope and Compassion.

The Another Victim split is awesome too, but they've never done anything bad.

Also:

- Morning Again guy whose name I forget sang on some of the demos which are on the retrospective

- Chad sang on Hearts Once Nourished...

- Geert sang on That Within Blood Ill Tempered and the AV split. Everything else they put out I don't know.

- I'm pretty sure Matt Fox is the only original member.

[tornpictures]

:eek: I know those guys! Like, I've met them when I went to Milwauke with my father! I hadn't even heard their stuff but they said they were in a band called Since By Man and said I should come to a show, but I couldn't because we were leaving that night. Unless theres another band called that in Millwauke then it's a small world.


That's awesome!

Shai Hulud's CD titles are ****ing cliché.

[young, loud and andrew]

Do you always complain?

[Sep]

Do you always complain?

Yes, he does. But you'll get used to it.

I think Torn's a pretty cool guy. And he's right about Shai Hulud's album titles. I think they are veeery cheesey.

[REINER]

Their new band name is lame, they should have used what the Shai Hulud turns into in the book.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

The name is from "Scornful Of The Motives And Virtues Of Others"

"How I miss the warmth of red blood...
The color of pitch is cold and hard,
And its merciless to the tenderhearted."

You probably already know that though...I was just reading the lyrics and saw that.

[tornpictures]

You want cheese with that?

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

You want cheese with that?
Ha...ha.


/Unnescisary post :upset:

[BuddyBigsby]

http://www.musicianforums.com/sputnik/album.php?reviewid=1742&genreid=22

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Whoa sweet I didn't know we had that.

[cbmartinez]

As far as names go, Warmth Of Red Blood > Zombie Apocalypse.

[BuddyBigsby]

Musically Warmth of Red Blood > ZA and I haven't even heard WoRB yet.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Zombie Apocalypse are pretty good musically. Some times they don't sound very good, but they have some cool parts, when they aren't playing a mile a minute. I don't like the vocalist much though.

[cbmartinez]

Buddy, have you heard the new Open Hand song, "Tough Guy?"

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah. I like it a lot actually. I heard the rest of the album is crap though, so I'm going to be careful and DL before I buy.

[cbmartinez]

I like it alot also. I still don't like "11th Street" but "Tough Guy" has a real nice vibe.

[young, loud and andrew]

I saw Zombie Apocalypse a few months ago... they were really fun live, but they sped through all their songs. They all wear matching clothes (black shirts, camo shorts, etc.) and it was at CBGBs--so they put on a hell of a live show on a tiny little stage. I haven't heard their album in full though.

[cbmartinez]

I demand that you all listen to the new Marigold song "No 12." And listen to "Movement One In A Minor" while your at it.

http://www.purevolume.com/marigold

[chips88]

Nice. As always Chris, you make my day better with great music.

[cbmartinez]

Marigold is ****ing incredible. And I can see them whenever I want.

[StruckEverywhere]

Who here knows what the song Let's Go Crazy by Refused is of?

[REINER]

I know the song, don't understand what your asking. Do you mean what is it about?

[NewKindofArmy03]

I think he meant to put 'off of.'

[CONNER_NWHC]

Get on this band www.sinkingships.tk

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Get on this band www.sinkingships.tk
Agreed.

[StruckEverywhere]

Yeah, I worded the question badly and there was a typo in there too. What I meant to say was, what album/demo/E.P is it from?

[Rockafella]

lol dont get hostile (unless you really are just 14 then ill understand.

Grrr. Well I am 13 wanna fight about it? :p

P.S.- Very handy walkthrough, who knew hardcore and metalcore were so confusing? *nurtures headache*

[REINER]

It's from a tribute album to Prince called Purple Pain.

[StruckEverywhere]

It's from a tribute album to Prince called Purple Pain.

Thanks oh master of Refused, I had no idea. It's such an amazing song.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Buried Alive are awesome.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yeah, I wanna pick up one of their CDs.

The song State of Mind by Figure Four is awesome. I don't think they're better then CBK(like a lot of people think), but they're really good.

[cbmartinez]

Are you seeing Envy tomorrow?

Figure Four is the one with the Chinese chick, no?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Nah, i'm not going, are you?

And yeah, Figure Four is the one with the Chinese chick. The guy who does the back up vocals in CBK is their vocalist.

[cbmartinez]

I'm still bugging my parents but it doesn't lookd good. They say I need to go with someone and no one wants to go. Stupid Underoath pussies. My friend is seeing Bright Eyes in Philly tomorrow, maybe I can get a ride from her.

Is Figure Four hardcore? Also, has anyone heard Twelve Tribes?

[NewKindofArmy03]

I only have their last release, Suffering the Loss. It's borderline, but i'd probably call it hardcore.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Twelve Tribes sucks.

[cbmartinez]

I recognized there name on the Ferret site. I think I'll still check 'em out.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Nah, i'm not going, are you?

And yeah, Figure Four is the one with the Chinese chick. The guy who does the back up vocals in CBK is their vocalist.
F4 is so good live man.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I have a video of them playing, it's pretty good.

[BuddyBigsby]

I'll go with you Cb!

*hops on the Buddycopter*

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I'm placing my order on RevHQ.com

Gorilla Biscuits 'Hold Your Ground' shirt
Dag Nasty 'Flame' shirt
Madball Hold It Down LP
Better Than A Thousand Just One LP
Against Me! Acoustic 7"
Our Turn Catch Your Breath 7"
Reach The Sky Everybody's Here 7"

$45

[chips88]

I'm placing my order on RevHQ.com

Gorilla Biscuits 'Hold Your Ground' shirt
Dag Nasty 'Flame' shirt
Madball Hold It Down LP
Better Than A Thousand Just One LP
Against Me! Acoustic 7"
Our Turn Catch Your Breath 7"
Reach The Sky Everybody's Here 7"

$45

I need to check out that site. I also need to get a record player :upset:

[Silvermedalmafia]

I have a record player that I use for my parents albums and obscure albums I couldn't find elsewhere.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

That site is way cheap too. On interpunk that would of cost like $75.

[heyimsheep1]

this has probly been answered already but i dont feel like going thru 300 pages. whats a breakdown? i hear some of my friends saying they only go in the pit during the breakdown....

[57%_Raw]

wow, i just read through 299 pages of this thread (my highlight for school holidays) and it has got to be the most accurate and comprehensive hardcore/metalcore description i have seen. the bands u hav listed here are brilliant, and the whole community spirt was great to see. ya i dont really kno y im posting...oh yer, does anyone here like Clearing Autumn Skies? i got it tha otha day and think its rather swell.

[SickOnTheBusYouCunt]

that's true dedication

[57%_Raw]

*gets 47 scene points*

[cbmartinez]

I'll go with you Cb!

*hops on the Buddycopter*

I gave my parents this epic speech today about how I need to go.

"This show was made just for me. The pinnacle of my life is right in front of me and I'm reaching out to grab it but I can't."

Then came the crying, etc.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Hahaha, you cried for it? So what'd they say?

[cbmartinez]

My dad would maybe let me go cause he would to Chinatown or some ****. But I don't think my mom is down with it.

[BuddyBigsby]

I remember those days. Being 18 and having a license and a job rules.

[cbmartinez]

Maybe I should steal my parents car!

[REINER]

Having a license to my mom still means I need permission to ask to go places. The price I pay for her covering my gas expenses.

[BuddyBigsby]

Maybe I should steal my parents car!

Hasn't this thread taught you anything? Real men steal their own cars.

[BuddyBigsby]

Happy 300th page everybody!!!!!

[REINER]

This is probably the biggest thread still generally on the same topic.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Speeeech!!! Speeech!!!

[young, loud and andrew]

this has probly been answered already but i dont feel like going thru 300 pages. whats a breakdown? i hear some of my friends saying they only go in the pit during the breakdown....

The breakdown of a song tends to be a part where all of the instruments slow down and play some sort of repeating riff. In hardcore, it's not that obvious to tell when the breakdown is, but in metalcore, it's quite obvious. Everything dramatically slows down and you get this dun dun dun dun (or jud jud jud--whichever you prefer) sound from the guitars... usually it goes into a neener neener after...

during most breakdowns you can find yourself nodding your head as if you were listening to hip hop.

that's probably not that great of an answer, but listen to "Red Wedding" by the Bled for an example of a breakdown in metalcore... listen to "all in a year" or "changing face" by Comeback Kid for an example of a breakdown in hardcore.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Someone should tab out Wake The Dead.

*stares akwardly at reiner*

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Someone should tab out Wake The Dead.

*stares akwardly at reiner*
*joins in the staring*

[cbmartinez]

I have the intro tabbed if you want.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I would like that very much.

[cbmartinez]

Okay, it's going to come out messy, so just copy + paste onto Notepad.

Guitar 1
Eb|-----------------------------------------------------------|
Bb|-----------------------------------------------------------|
Gb|-7-------77-------5-------10------333332000----3333320002b-|
Db|-x000000-xx000000-x000000-x000000----------333-------------|
Ab|-5000000-55000000-3000000-8000000--------------------------|
Db|--000000---000000--000000--000000--------------------------|

Guitar 2
Eb|-----------------------------------------------------------|
Bb|-----------------------------------------------------------|
Gb|-7-------77-------9-------10-------------------------------|
Db|-x000000-xx000000-x000000-x000000-888888888888-33333333333-|
Ab|-5000000-55000000-7000000-8000000-888888888888-33333333333-|
Db|--000000---000000--000000--000000-888888888888-33333333333-|

Guitars 1 + 2
Eb|-----|
Bb|-3---|
Gb|-2---|
Db|-0---|
Ab|-----|
Db|-----|

[CONNER_NWHC]

Confusing to play.

[cbmartinez]

Copy it to notepad, it'll look simpler. The tunings a bit of a bitch, but just try it in Drop D to see how it sounds.

[CONNER_NWHC]

What do the X's mean in the first note.

[young, loud and andrew]

I've figured out the whole thing... the intro is all octaves...

[NewKindofArmy03]

You mute that string but hit the A and the G string.

[CONNER_NWHC]

ahh rights it's coming along ok now. I've had trouble learning most CBK songs i try to play.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's right, the verse is easy to figure, just some fast progressions.

[REINER]

If I read that correctly, I play it a little differently. I have that much done, to lazy to do the rest.

The first chords before the open ones I don't play octaves, just after it. Give a minute and I'll do my verison.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

ahh rights it's coming along ok now. I've had trouble learning most CBK songs i try to play.
All In A Year is an easy one.

[REINER]

eb|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Bb|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Gb|-7------------5-----------10-10--12-12---15-15-15-14-12-10-10-10---15-15-15-14-12-14--|
Db|-x-0-0-0-0--x-0-0-0-0--x--x---x--x-------x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x---------x--x--x--x--x--x--|
Ab|-5-0-0-0-0--3-0-0-0-0--8--8---10-10---13-13-13-12-10-8--8--8-----13-13-13-12-10-12--|
Db|---0-0-0-0----0-0-0-0--------------------------------------------------------------|

Play the 5x7 0000 part twice.

After listening again Cb is right with the octaves.

[CONNER_NWHC]

All In A Year is an easy one.
What tuneing is it in?

[REINER]

Drop D, then half step down.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

What tuneing is it in?
Go here and check out the tab. A ton of other tabs there too.

http://www.hcguitartabs.tk/

[CONNER_NWHC]

Tuning down is so much work im so darn lazy.

[REINER]

Haha, I hate having to tune half step down. I don't like doing it. I can deal with Drop C, but not half step down.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Drop C is harder though?