Hardcore Community Thread

[BuddyBigsby]

Oh, about the Converge video:

Yeah, that's hillarious. It's actually the bassist that hits somebody in the head with his instrument though. Which I guess is technically a guitarist but still.

[DFelon204409]

New Dillinger Escape Plan comes out tomorrow. Is anybody else's grundle tingling? I didn't download the leaked version because I decided to stay pure but the wait is killing me.

[BuddyBigsby]

Holy crap, it already comes out tomorrow? I had no idea.

[cbmartinez]

Is gon' be tight as 'ell.

Hey, Buddy, did you read my ramble about hardcore on the previous page?

[BuddyBigsby]

Yes. Also fair enough.

[DFelon204409]

Buddy. I still like Underoath's new CD and I've listened to it 7 times through. The only song that has gotten old is "Reinventing Your Exit." I think the problem was you were raised on the older Underoath, so when they change it's not like listening to a whole new sound, it's like listening to a band that used to be great do different stuff. Also, I hate The Changing of Time. I really do.

[BuddyBigsby]

I don't think that's it. I gave They're Only Chasing Safety another chance on a completely clean slate, old stuff aside, and I still didn't like it. "Young and Aspiring" is good, and "It's Dangerous Business Just Walking Out Your Front Door" isn't bad, but I still hate the rest. I just can't stand that sound period, it irritates me to death.

[DFelon204409]

I don't think that's it. I gave They're Only Chasing Safety another chance on a completely clean slate, old stuff aside, and I still didn't like it. "Young and Aspiring" is good, and "It's Dangerous Business Just Walking Out Your Front Door" isn't bad, but I still hate the rest. I just can't stand that sound period, it irritates me to death.

It's funny because those two are my favorite songs in that order. Maybe my tolerance level is higher than yours. "Impact of Reason" is cool too. I mean, they did some interesting stuff on the CD even if you don't like the sound. "Young and Aspiring" has a string section but way in the background so it's not as overt and annoying as in say every song they have it on Changing of Times. The choir breakdown owns. The favorite parts on the CD are where they're screaming over a catchy ryhtmic section. I hate how they often do the palm-muted thing with the melodic singing. That's weak in the first place and made even weaker by how trite it's become.

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah, that's why I like those two songs. They're innovative and bring something refreshing to the table. Especially that choir part.

[DFelon204409]

Yeah, that's why I like those two songs. They're innovative and bring something refreshing to the table. Especially that choir part.

Ya. And the rest of the CD doesn't do that as much. Some songs have hot action but in general the reason I like the rest of the CD is because there are well-written songs in there. I think there's a few stinkers but all in all even the songs that don't innovate are nice because they're fun and nice and all that.

[BuddyBigsby]

Why BTBAM don't suck: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/b/between_the_buried_and_me/camilla_rhodes_tab.htm

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Why BTBAM don't suck: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/b/between_the_buried_and_me/camilla_rhodes_tab.htm


:amaze:



They are indeed one of the most talented bands to come around in awhile.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Hahah I saw that tab here on Mx. I attempted to play it and I was just like after the first line "**** this"

[BuddyBigsby]

Me and my band's other guitarist are going to spend the remainder of the night attempting this. I can play it, just not up to speed. I might be able to get it down if I really work on it.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I thought you wern't in a band, only wanted to be in one?

[BuddyBigsby]

Well... we're more 3 guys that get together and bs for a few hours than we are a band. We're always throwing out our material and as of right now we have 0 songs.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Awesome, I've been there before.

[DFelon204409]

Awesome, I've been there before.

Haven't we all? (DRACULACORE!!!!!!)

[DFelon204409]

My CTTS review is up sort of. I'm having technical difficulties with Notepad of all programs. It'll be up soon.

[atdi come back]

where's at the drive-in?

[atdi come back]

btw the new dillinger cd is sooo amazingly good

[I Killd Kurt]

Can anyone post a good definition for post-hardcore? I hear it at times, but I'm not exactly sure what makes a band post-hardcore.

[hookerwithpenis]

that guitar tab isn't even fing funny... ****... But I'll add my two cents to the UnderOATH discussion... I find it to be a good cd. It's pleased me more so then a band like Atreyu's new work... I find people not to like the new underoath because Dallas left... Who gives a ****. It's a solid cd nonetheless...

[cbmartinez]

Can anyone post a good definition for post-hardcore? I hear it at times, but I'm not exactly sure what makes a band post-hardcore.

Eh, there's one on the first page but I don't understand the genre very much either. I think basically it's a type of music that can be very chaotic and very soft. The soft parts tend to be very spacey and emotional and the guitarists tend to use a lot of crazy effects. That's as good a definition that I can give. Check out Glassjaw to see what I'm talking about.

[hookerwithpenis]

Bands that use to play hardcore... Is one... Thursday is a band I describe as post... Saosin... Thrice... More singing, screamin choruses, breakdowns, more picking verses, mellow parts going into breakdowns, spoken word parts... Usually bands that use to play hardcore tend to "evolve" their sound into something like this.

[PahLewKis]

Hahaha man you guys never cease to amaze me

I remember when you all thought AFI was hardcore and telejohn started claiming hxc

[hookerwithpenis]

I remember when I first started postin telejon was already into hxc bands and such. And that was like 2 1/2 years ago...

[PahLewKis]

I used to be sh!t4brainz in 2000 & 01

I quit comming here because it was mostly 15 yr olds

and telejohn wasnt always HAWDcore hahaha I remember when he first started claimin and thought he was the **** "grow some balls listen to hardcore"

do these people still post anymore? I remember your name

telejohn, Dboon, that singer from blac bloc..the old heads?

[hookerwithpenis]

Haven't seen Dboon is a long *** time, saw tele post once in awhile like me. When I first started posting the Trooper was the hated one here... Good times...

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Telejon posts like once every 3 months these days.

Dboon came back for around a week, then left again after seeing this place.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I got Miss Machine if anyone wants it on soulseek.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I'll be there in a sec.

[capri sun junkie]

what do you people think of sick of it all?

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I like what I have heard.

[DFelon204409]

Holy crap, the new DRACULACORE song has come. But we don't have a title yet and we're running a title contest! Check out the info at http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207335 and give us a suggestion. Song is at www.hxcmp3.com/bands/12660

[capri sun junkie]

Holy crap, the new DRACULACORE song has come. But we don't have a title yet and we're running a title contest! Check out the info at http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207335 and give us a suggestion. Song is at www.hxcmp3.com/bands/12660

dude i like it. a title though... hmmm... burning bridges last tuesday with a couple of runaway diabetic anti-poetic fetuses

[DFelon204409]

What an excellent title but I'd prefer to have it in the the Audio Arena thread. It's easier to organize when we decide the winner.

[capri sun junkie]

thats awesome, i did it in that one too. ;)

[DFelon204409]

thats awesome, i did it in that one too. ;)

That's awesome.

[capri sun junkie]

and how :thumb:

[BuddyBigsby]

Anyone remember that idiot xdeadtomorrowx? He's back and spreading his stupidity across the forums again.

I found this old thread he made, it's pretty funny. How could you not know how to play a breakdown? Idiot. AND he thought the very intro to "Endless" was a breakdown.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165216

[NewKindofArmy03]

i saw comeback kid, champion, blacklisted, and sad state of affairs last night. donnybrook and internal affairs showed up but they could only play like 2 or 3 songs each. blacklisted owns, if you haven't heard them, check them out. www.blacklistedhardcore.com

[BuddyBigsby]

blacklisted rule!

I missed that tour. It sold out here. :upset:

[DFelon204409]

I remember xdeadtomorrowx. What a wanker.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Hellfest tomorrow, I think Blacklisted are playing Saturday, but I'm to lazy to double check.

[NewKindofArmy03]

yeah, they play right before comeback kid. i think that's what they said. i wish i could go, but i'll make it next year.

[DFelon204409]

Hellfest tomorrow, I think Blacklisted are playing Saturday, but I'm to lazy to double check.

!!!

You got the buddy icon!

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Yeah PunkRockLoser got it for me.

[cbmartinez]

Man, I wish I could go to Hellfest, but there's no way in hell my parents would let me. To whoever is going, I suggest checking out the band The Oval Portrait. And that xdeadtomorrowx kid is truly a jackass.

[cbmartinez]

Also, about Thrice being Christian, the song "To What End" kinda takes a stab at people who look at things like religion scientifically and try to come up with logical explanations for it. That suggests that maybe Dustin is Christian.

[DFelon204409]

Also, about Thrice being Christian, the song "To What End" kinda takes a stab at people who look at things like religion scientifically and try to come up with logical explanations for it. That suggests that maybe Dustin is Christian.

Or that he believes you can't truly mix faith with science.

[BuddyBigsby]

Dustin is Christian. I don't know if I said this or not, but a lot of his song titles and lyrics reference Christian literature, which I think is one reason why people mistake Thrice for a Christian band.

As for Hellfest... I'm a sad panda I'm not there right now. Next year though, next year...

[NewKindofArmy03]

yeah, im definately going next year.

[Hatebreed219]

onthe ultimate-guitar forum they all say that the locust is hardcore..hm...oh well,doesnt really matter to me,i like them,i listen to them,i don catagorize them,its just easier this way

[Hatebreed219]

wow i did not see all these ther pages,i though there was only 7....

[Hatebreed219]

wow i did not see all these ther pages,i though there was only 7....i hate how in these forums type normally but only half the letters process....

[Hatebreed219]

ok im gonna stop posting on this topic now...

[BuddyBigsby]

Oh yeah, it's the forums that are stealing your letters.

[Hatebreed219]

you know what i mean...

[cbmartinez]

What the hell...

[GraveRobbersINC]

Yeah..the band Death isn't Grindcore, they're Death metal pure and simple.

[capri sun junkie]

i got mad sunburns... thats way hardcore

[syrUsbilt]

http://www.thorprecords.com/bands/strikingdistance.php


STRIKING DISTANCE!

one of my favorite hardcore bands, I encourage everyone to check out that site. You can download a couple mp3s by following the link at the bottom of the page.

[NewKindofArmy03]

i have the song tear it down on my playlist, i like it.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Just got home from Hellfest, give me some time to shower and stuff and I'll review my day.

[BuddyBigsby]

I want to hear about Prayer for Cleansing tomorrow, young man.

[dustindow]

I hope this stays up i use it alot to help friends get into the punk bands.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I want to hear about Prayer for Cleansing tomorrow, young man.
As much as I wouldn't mind watching them, but they're playing the exact same time as Bane. Tomorrow I'm so psyched for Shattered Realm.

I made a thread for my review, also I'll probably put it in the Show Review thread.

[Silvermedalmafia]

We have got, nothing better to do, than watch tv and have a couple brews.

[BuddyBigsby]

Alright, sounds good. I heard about Bane playing the same time as PFC. That sucks.

[Joel_DK_Clash]

Um, i dont know if this has already been explained in this thread because i kipped like 22 pages....but, Would Earth Crisis be Metalcore or Hardcore?

[syrUsbilt]

Um, i dont know if this has already been explained in this thread because i kipped like 22 pages....but, Would Earth Crisis be Metalcore or Hardcore?

really bad vegan straight edge metal.

[NewKindofArmy03]

did anyone ever hear of These Days. they're a really good hardcore band from california. www.thesedayshc.com they have mp3's on their site so check them out.

[Nra4ever_17]

Isn't the old meat puppets stuff (the ones where they scream all the total nonsense) hardcore? Also I'd call Leftover Crack a good example of hardcore, and maybe Husker Du as well.

[NewKindofArmy03]

i wouldn't call of any of those bands hardcore, some maybe hardcore punk.

[NewKindofArmy03]

there are so many rumors spreading about bad luck 13's set at hellfest today, it's insane.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

there are so many rumors spreading about bad luck 13's set at hellfest today, it's insane.
You have no idea. Give me some time and I'l review it.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Did iHATEgc die?

[BuddyBigsby]

Hahaha, holy crap 40, I just came into this thread to ask that same question.

Well, I know he moved to Cali. He said he'd be on a lot more but... I see no sign of him.

[pedro durruti]

He's probably getting his internet set up.

[BuddyBigsby]

I don't think so, he already posted in this thread after he moved here.

[pedro durruti]

He was at his Aunt's house

[BuddyBigsby]

Ohhhhh, ok.

[DFelon204409]

Where in California did he move to?

[BuddyBigsby]

Laguna Beach, I think.

[DFelon204409]

Weak sauce. He should have come and lived in my brother's room. He's a middle child. Everybody forgets about him anyway. I think he's at camp.

[salparadise094]

Click here if you would like to hear one of the best metalcore bands:

The I Collective
http://www.theicollective.com/tic_-_01.mp3
http://www.theicollective.com/tic_-_02.mp3

These guys go to/used to go to my school. Unfortunately, they broke up because they're a bunch of drunken idiots.:(

Good band, good live show. The singer would sometimes go out into the middle of the pit and start beating the **** out of kids in the middle of a song.

Anywhere we can get more I Collective? That would be tits if we could.

[salparadise094]

While I remember, what genre would Saetia fall into? I'd say they are closer to the original concept of emo laid out by Rites of Spring, but that's just my two cents.

[cbmartinez]

Would Copeland or the June Spirit be considered emo?

[art of losing]

anyone like folly? i think they are a good band.

[DFelon204409]

Saetia is emo, Copeland blows and isn't emo, and Folly is just silly.

[cbmartinez]

What about the June Spirit?

[halfwayryan]

What category would you put these guys in?

http://www.bandbuilder.com/mychemicalromanceplayer/index.php?ref_code=D53814

[DFelon204409]

What category would you put these guys in?

http://www.bandbuilder.com/mychemicalromanceplayer/index.php?ref_code=D53814

Post-hardcore/80s hair metal

[BuddyBigsby]

I like Copeland, but not emo.

And I haven't heard June Spirit. I'll take a listen later and dish out my two cents.

[thewaterispoison]

Nice thread guys, wish i'd found it sooner.. but anywho, i'm curious as to what you would call Coheed and Cambria? Thanks :thumb:

[pedro durruti]

Not hardcore...

[cbmartinez]

I just listened to a bunch of CDs. Some "real screamo," Neil Perry, Crestfallen, Envy (them crazy Japanese folk), Majority Rule, Kaospilot pageninetynine, badcannon (it was something like that, I believe their on Level Plane), Saetia, Love Lost But Not Forgotten. Also, the new Dillinger sounds so good, so does the new Misery Signals. Time in Malta sounded pretty bad. Converge is coming out with a new album this September.

[NewKindofArmy03]

did anyone get the new terror cd? if so, is it better than lowest of the low?

[Let's Chop Cats!]

My friend got it at Hellfest. He said it's not as good as LotL, but still a good CD.

[BuddyBigsby]

I just picked it up myself. Good stuff. I don't like the production though, it's too nice and clean for a hardcore album.

EDIT: I also bought Scars of Tomorrow's Design Your Fate. I don't even like them, I just got it because it was only $4.25.

[BuddyBigsby]

I just listened to a bunch of CDs. Some "real screamo," Neil Perry, Crestfallen, Envy (them crazy Japanese folk), Majority Rule, Kaospilot pageninetynine, badcannon (it was something like that, I believe their on Level Plane), Saetia, Love Lost But Not Forgotten. Also, the new Dillinger sounds so good, so does the new Misery Signals. Time in Malta sounded pretty bad. Converge is coming out with a new album this September.

You go crazy on Soulseek or something?

[DFelon204409]

He's been selling his body for music money. I would know, I got sloppy fourths. Mmmm.

[cbmartinez]

Heheh. No, the music store I go to has this computer database where you can listen to any CD you want.

[shane italian]

I just picked it up myself. Good stuff. I don't like the production though, it's too nice and clean for a hardcore album.

EDIT: I also bought Scars of Tomorrow's Design Your Fate. I don't even like them, I just got it because it was only $4.25.Then send me the cd :D

[shane italian]

Laguna Beach, I think.Irvine. But it's all good down in south OC.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I just picked it up myself. Good stuff. I don't like the production though, it's too nice and clean for a hardcore album.

EDIT: I also bought Scars of Tomorrow's Design Your Fate. I don't even like them, I just got it because it was only $4.25.
everybody i heard from said the cd was a lot more raw then lowest of the low. as for being better then lowest of the low, i've heard mixed reviews. i guess i'll pick it up this weekend.

[BuddyBigsby]

Heheh. No, the music store I go to has this computer database where you can listen to any CD you want.

Haha, so you just sat there and listened to CDs all day? Or did you more or less scan through them?

Man, I wish my CD store had that :upset:

[Silvermedalmafia]

Heheh. No, the music store I go to has this computer database where you can listen to any CD you want.
Lucky bastard, I get stuck buying discs I know one song to, and hoping they are good.

[BuddyBigsby]

Irvine. But it's all good down in south OC.

Irvine? Rich ****.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Haha, so you just sat there and listened to CDs all day? Or did you more or less scan through them?

Man, I wish my CD store had that :upset:
i was in barnes and nobles and they have a huge database of so many bands. every band i searched you could listen to.

[shane italian]

Irvine? Rich ****.When we can buy a house out here we'll be rich. Are you out of high school?

[BuddyBigsby]

Yes.

[shane italian]

Cewlness. Are you gonna be at the Eulogy show in Anaheim?

[BuddyBigsby]

Nah, I don't think so. I will be at Undying/The Acacia Strain, Evergreen Terrace/ALOL/The Red Chord, and Caliban/SoT/Nodes/Reflux, however.

[cbmartinez]

i was in barnes and nobles and they have a huge database of so many bands. every band i searched you could listen to.

That was it. And Throwdown is definitely metalcore now.

[cbmartinez]

Also, did Chad sing when he was in Shai Halud?

[BuddyBigsby]

Yes. He does the guest vocals in "The Only Thing", if that's what you were wondering about.

[cbmartinez]

Also, I have a couple questions about a7x I thought you might be able to answer. Does M. Shadows play the piano on songs like "Warmness On The Soul" (which I like now) and "We Come Out At Night?" And who does that high pitched backing scream on "The Art Of Subconscious Illusion?"

[shane italian]

That was it. And Throwdown is definitely metalcore now.Mos def not. :thumb:

Oh and I just heard Martyr AD on Road Rules.

[cbmartinez]

No way....

Haymaker is extremely metalcore.

[shane italian]

Seriously, if you were going to say any of their stuff was metalcore Beyond Repair would be the closest. Haymaker isn't even as heavy as You Don't Have To Be Blood To Be Family.

[hookerwithpenis]

Also, did Chad sing when he was in Shai Halud?

Yes Chad Gilbert sang on Hearts Once Nourished With Hope And Compassion. But did not write the lyrics. Matt Fox is the primary song writter for the hulud.

[hookerwithpenis]

Throwdown lost a big audience now. Bitching out and not playing "Raise Your Fist" because of the Ozzfest crowd. Or so I heard. Makes me a lil sad...

[DFelon204409]

Mos def not. :thumb:

Oh and I just heard Martyr AD on Road Rules.

Why were you watching Road Rules? Or MTV when Pimp My Ride isn't on for that matter?

[BuddyBigsby]

Also, I have a couple questions about a7x I thought you might be able to answer. Does M. Shadows play the piano on songs like "Warmness On The Soul" (which I like now) and "We Come Out At Night?" And who does that high pitched backing scream on "The Art Of Subconscious Illusion?"

M. Shadows playing piano = It's either him or Synester, I'm not sure.

High pitched scream = Avenged Sevenfold's merch girl/M. Shadows' girlfriend.

[shane italian]

Why were you watching Road Rules? Or MTV when Pimp My Ride isn't on for that matter?Fool, I watch MTV all the time. Road Rules, Real World, Beavis & Butthead, all of it. :cool:

[40 oz 2 freedom]

So do I. I like watching Real World, and a lot of other shows.

Real World > Road Rules

[pedro durruti]

Boiling Point!

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Fo' Sho! ^^

This has turned into a Hardcore/Metalcore community thread. I like it.

[phobiaholic]

ok, and who invented all these labels? (flame away)


just wondering where this is written in the bible of music genres?

[BuddyBigsby]

Dear Phobia,

Learn something about music.

- Sincerely, people that know something about music.

[cbmartinez]

Heheh. I still think that on Haymaker the riffs are really metal. It does kinda have a hardcore feel, I don't know.

So, the main screams heard on Hearts Once Nourished is Chad?

[phobiaholic]

i know pleanty of music, just wanting to know who wrote this stuff?

no one ever wonders where this whole stuff came from?

[phobiaholic]

i've got another curiousity(sp?), where would you put At the Drive-In?

[hookerwithpenis]

Heheh. I still think that on Haymaker the riffs are really metal. It does kinda have a hardcore feel, I don't know.

So, the main screams heard on Hearts Once Nourished is Chad?

All the singing is done by Chad anything you hear behind his are either from Matt Fletcher and Matt Fox. More so Matt Fox

[cbmartinez]

Ok, thank you.

i've got another curiousity(sp?), where would you put At the Drive-In?

Indie/Progressive

[BuddyBigsby]

Heheh. I still think that on Haymaker the riffs are really metal. It does kinda have a hardcore feel, I don't know.


I see where you're coming from. There's a lot of double bass too, which comes from metal. I don't know, to me Throwdown are borderline. I consider them hardcore, but I don't freak if someone refers to them as metalcore.

[NewKindofArmy03]

a lot of their fans didn't like haymaker because some of the riffs sounded like nu-metal. i see what they mean, but i don't really mind it.

[NewKindofArmy03]

oh yeah, i just got back from seeing a bunch of local bands and psyopus and ed gein. it sucks because most people left before psyopus and ed gein. psyopus is insane, they're very very technical, but i don't like it that much. and ed gein was pretty good but played a short set. i picked up their cd though.

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah, Psyopus are amazing musicians, but not a very enjoyable listen. Their singer's really weak too. Ed Gein, on the other hand, rule.

[Gotkookie]

throwdown is definitley borderline hardcore, i mean hrrrm it sounds kind of hardcore yet they got the metalcore voice, and such

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Does anyone like the Banner? I recently got "Your Murder Mixtape" and I'm diggin' it.

[Hey Mr. Light Man]

Good afternoon.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Ramonesrule?

[DFelon204409]

Ramonesrule?

Hhahaha. This is the ramonesrule deja vu week I guess. I just reposted my Ramones thread from back in the day because of the new Ramones thread. Mwhahah.

[cbmartinez]

Does anyone like the Banner? I recently got "Your Murder Mixtape" and I'm diggin' it.

I don't really like them, with the horror imagery and stuff. But a bunch of people on this board like them including cheeser and sk8ska.

[phobiaholic]

But don't worry about what's "real punk" and what's not man. Just listen to a bunch of bands, find out what you like, and just enjoy it for what it is.

Um.. shouldn't we all do this? i mean just listen to what we like and stop putting all of these labels out there, i think the majority of you guys just want to go "I'M HARDCORE AND COOLER THAN YOU, HAHA I KNOW MORE ABOUT MUSIC" but really .. shouldn't we stop turning music into fashion statements and stop judging people by what makes them feel good? (i hope this made sense cause i dont' reread much)

[DFelon204409]

Um.. shouldn't we all do this? i mean just listen to what we like and stop putting all of these labels out there, i think the majority of you guys just want to go "I'M HARDCORE AND COOLER THAN YOU, HAHA I KNOW MORE ABOUT MUSIC" but really .. shouldn't we stop turning music into fashion statements and stop judging people by what makes them feel good? (i hope this made sense cause i dont' reread much)

Maybe you should consider the rereading process. To use an argument I've used many time before, when people call me "a whiny fag" because I listen to emo (real emo mind you like Hot Cross) when in reality my music has more balls than the crap they listen to, their own ignorance and idiocy instigates an uncomfortable and unpleasant situation for me. Why should I have to endure insults just because the other person is wrong/a bigot? I shouldn't. This thread was originally about educating people about certain genres so that they understand what they're dealing with instead of just running their mouth. It has slowly mutated into a community thread.

[thewaterispoison]

Um.. shouldn't we all do this? i mean just listen to what we like and stop putting all of these labels out there, i think the majority of you guys just want to go "I'M HARDCORE AND COOLER THAN YOU, HAHA I KNOW MORE ABOUT MUSIC" but really .. shouldn't we stop turning music into fashion statements and stop judging people by what makes them feel good? (i hope this made sense cause i dont' reread much)

Good call bro. Screw the labels. Just listen to what you like...without slappnig a nametag on it..

[BuddyBigsby]

Maybe you should consider the rereading process. To use an argument I've used many time before, when people call me "a whiny fag" because I listen to emo (real emo mind you like Hot Cross) when in reality my music has more balls than the crap they listen to, their own ignorance and idiocy instigates an uncomfortable and unpleasant situation for me. Why should I have to endure insults just because the other person is wrong/a bigot? I shouldn't. This thread was originally about educating people about certain genres so that they understand what they're dealing with instead of just running their mouth. It has slowly mutated into a community thread.

Quoted because it might not be seen because it was the last post of the page.

And phobo... classifying music doesn't mean you don't enjoy it. Stop getting fussy because you don't know anything about genres.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Does anyone like the Banner? I recently got "Your Murder Mixtape" and I'm diggin' it.
I do, I like their ep more. They just signed to Ferret Records. They have another LP coming out on Blackside, it will have like 6 songs one of which will be a like 30 minute song.

Joey Southside (vocalist) is putting on an all NJ band fest in august, should be fun.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I do, I like their ep more. They just signed to Ferret Records. They have another LP coming out on Blackside, it will have like 6 songs one of which will be a like 30 minute song.

Joey Southside (vocalist) is putting on an all NJ band fest in august, should be fun.

Sounds rad. When's it out?

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Donno yet, but if Joey ever posts anything about it on the other board I'm on I'll tell you.

[cbmartinez]

Joey Southside (vocalist) is putting on an all NJ band fest in august, should be fun.

Sweet, I wanna go.

[NewKindofArmy03]

yeah, i read about it, it seemed pretty cool.

[pedro durruti]

Recommend me bands that are similar to Floorpunch, Ten Yard Fight, Champion, Comeback Kid

[NewKindofArmy03]

bane, judge, 25 ta life

[NewKindofArmy03]

do any of you know a band called merauder? after hearing about them a lot from this other message board, i decided to check them out and can't stop playing the song. they're a really good metalcore band.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Yeah, they have members of like Earth Crisis, Hatebreed and like another band. I had to miss them at hellfest.

[DFelon204409]

There is a new DRACULACORE song up kids! (http://www.musicianforums.com/forum...t=207335&page=3) Freak it wild.

[cbmartinez]

Link don't be workin'.

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah, they have members of like Earth Crisis, Hatebreed and like another band. I had to miss them at hellfest.

What the? I thought Merauder were older than both those bands. Trippy.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I donno, I may be thinking of a different band. I'm really confused right now, I can't even correctly name the movie I was just watching.

EDIT: Ahh I was thinking of Rag Men, which actually has a member of Merauder. I'm an idiot.

[BuddyBigsby]

Haha, yeah, that's what I was thinking "Did he mean Rag Men?". Yeah, same singer.

[Hey Mr. Light Man]

I was at an Only Crime show tonite and a kid passed out and wasnt breathing.

[NewKindofArmy03]

isn't bane on that tour?

[BuddyBigsby]

and Silent Drive?

[DFelon204409]

Link don't be workin'.

You could always go over to the audio arena or just go straight to www.hxcmp3.com/bands/12660

[pedro durruti]

DDDDDDDDD felon!

[BuddyBigsby]

NEW ACAPELLICA IS UP. It's a Nora cover this time. I know none of you probably bothered to click this when I pimped it before so here's the deal: I do covers using my voice to do all the instruments. Last one was "Nerdy" by Poison the Well and I just put up the Nora one tonight. Check it.

www.purevolume.com/acapellica

[cbmartinez]

Me, Me, Me, & Me with the occasional guest appearance by Me

Heheh, I like that. I'm listening to it currently.

Edit: My god...

[cbmartinez]

Hahaha, that was so... disturbing. You are a strange man. You've got a nice scream though, doesn't really sound like Jeff from PTW no offence, but still nice. You have a little to much time on your hands. I throughly enjoyed the way you did the lead guitar on "Nerdy" and the Nora guitar line actually sounded real...

[DFelon204409]

I'm requesting "Panasonic Youth" by Dillinger Escape Plan. Have fun with that on Buddy. The best part will be when you break out some more high-pitched guitar.

[rjdxjpp]

does it really matter wat catigory they are in if its good music then its good music if its bad music then dont listen to it

[Anxious]

no deal

[NewKindofArmy03]

i picked up the new unearth cd today. i never listened to them until two days ago, and i think they sound a lot like killswitch engage. i need to go to a local cd store so i can get the new terror cd for cheaper than $16.99.

[stevethecrazywierdguy]

Zao's 5 Year Winter really makes you want to move.

Just heard Zao today from a metal hammer free disk thingy, just thought i'd say they rule!

[BuddyBigsby]

I'm requesting "Panasonic Youth" by Dillinger Escape Plan. Have fun with that on Buddy. The best part will be when you break out some more high-pitched guitar.

Ahhhhhhhhh! If I do a DEP one, it will be "43% Burnt". I thought about doing that for a while, but it will take a long time. A simple song like Nora takes me a couple hours so...

[cbmartinez]

Do a A7X song, though the drums will be hard.

[barfretchpuke]

I haven't read all 28 pages (sheesh) so I don't know if this has already been said...

Where did the term "hardcore" come from?
When punk was declared dead (when the sex pistols broke up perhaps or was it when sid vicious o.d.'ed) back in the late 70s a lot of the original "punk" bands were "selling out" and becoming new wave bands. So any punk band that didn't become a new wave band was considered "hardcore". Back then these bands sounded nothing like what is considered hardcore today. So bands like Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, The Exploited, GBH, Minor Threat, UK Subs, SUBHUMANS, Discharge etc, etc etc were considered hardcore. The glory days of hardcore were in 1982. It wasn't until later that two "camps" emerged. The straight-edge/newyork hardcore style originated by minor threat and carried on by the likes of agnostic front and slapshot and the metalish style originated by discharge.

Hope this makes sense...

[axeslinga_32]

Just heard Zao today from a metal hammer free disk thingy, just thought i'd say they rule!

awesome dude, most underrated band in the history of ever. Do they ever tour outside of north america?

[DFelon204409]

awesome dude, most underrated band in the history of ever. Do they ever tour outside of north america?

Zao?! Everybody talks about them as the kings of metalcore and the only true band from when it first came out. Personally, I find them to be crap! Totally overrated.

[BuddyBigsby]

Dear DFelon,

Your mom is totally overrated.

- Love, BuddyBigsby

[BuddyBigsby]

Hahaha, that was so... disturbing. You are a strange man. You've got a nice scream though, doesn't really sound like Jeff from PTW no offence, but still nice. You have a little to much time on your hands. I throughly enjoyed the way you did the lead guitar on "Nerdy" and the Nora guitar line actually sounded real...

Well, in my defense I wasn't trying to sound like Jeff. None offense taken, though. I don't like the way my scream came out on it though. It's so hollow. Sounds like an old man.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, the strange thing about me screaming is that I can't scream loud, which sounds like a oxymoron, but I just can't. To get a good low rumbling scream, I have to do it quietly. If I try to scream loud, it sounds horrible.

[BuddyBigsby]

I'm like that sometimes too. Just practice though, and it will get better. But your voice is just like an instrument, you have to practice it everyday otherwise you'll start sucking again.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, I'm trying. Jeff's is not to hard. The difference from TOOD to YCBY is pretty big though. M. Shadows is kinda hard to perfect, but I think I got it. I'm still trying to perfect Alex from Atreyu, that's pretty hard. I've been working on the singer from Every Time I Die also.

[DFelon204409]

Dear DFelon,

Your mom is totally overrated.

- Love, BuddyBigsby

Actually, no.

[shrxxm216]

thanxx for explaining all that so people know. also i noticed no one mentioned remembering never. i think their a perfect example of metalcore.

[BuddyBigsby]

Remembering Never = MEH-Talcore

Get it? Get it?

No seriously though, they're not a 'perfect' example. Hatebreed, 100 Demons, and Walls of Jericho are better examples. And they don't suck tremendously, unlike Remembering Never.

[shane italian]

100 Demons "Forsaken" = Perfect example of metalcore.

[moonboots]

here are a few bands that are very unique, i have no clue what genre they belong to. comment if you have a thought:

coheed and cambria
glassjaw
avenged sevenfold
from autumn to ashes
my chemical romance

oh and of course atom and his package (techno humor? if theres such thing)

[syrUsbilt]

err they don't belong in thist thread...thats for sure.

[obese_breasts]

I would just like to say that Comeback Kid kick so much *** it is almost holy

[DFelon204409]

here are a few bands that are very unique, i have no clue what genre they belong to. comment if you have a thought:

coheed and cambria
glassjaw
avenged sevenfold
from autumn to ashes
my chemical romance

oh and of course atom and his package (techno humor? if theres such thing)

From Autumn to Ashes is not unique. Also nothing can be "very unique" because "unique" as a word cannot be modified.

[BuddyBigsby]

He got vocabularial on yo ***.


Ironically enough, I'm going to have to ask DFelon if 'vocabularial' is the correct word I'm searching for.

[BuddyBigsby]

iHATEgc, you going to this at Chain?

Friday
September 10, 2004 VAUX
Tickets on sale 7/26/04 at 10am!

HOPESFALL, SINCE BY MAN

[brandonsontag]

good thread, except that death and carcass are death metal bands. dep is in a genre all of its own.

[cbmartinez]

here are a few bands that are very unique, i have no clue what genre they belong to. comment if you have a thought:

coheed and cambria
glassjaw
avenged sevenfold
from autumn to ashes
my chemical romance

oh and of course atom and his package (techno humor? if theres such thing)

coheed and cambria- Indie, pop-punk
glassjaw- Post-Hardcore
avenged sevenfold- Metalcore with a significant hardcore influence
from autumn to ashes- Crap metalcore
my chemical romance- Pop-Punk with a gothic tone

[shane italian]

iHATEgc, you going to this at Chain?

Friday
September 10, 2004 VAUX
Tickets on sale 7/26/04 at 10am!

HOPESFALL, SINCE BY MAN Yeah, I saw that like a week ago at the Mac Store. Is that the tour with TPTBUTET?

[DFelon204409]

He got vocabularial on yo ***.


Ironically enough, I'm going to have to ask DFelon if 'vocabularial' is the correct word I'm searching for.

You should have used "grammatical" or "luminary."

[BuddyBigsby]

DFelon, did you hear about Fordirelifesake's guitarist leaving the band to play drums for Boys Night Out? Sad, sad day.

Yeah, I saw that like a week ago at the Mac Store. Is that the tour with TPTBUTET?

That's the longest acronym ever. Who is that?

[shane italian]

The Plot To Blow Up The Eiffel Tower.

[BuddyBigsby]

Awesomely, I didn't know they were there but that will rule if they are.

[shane italian]

Either way, I read somewhere that there is a tour coming up with Since By Man and The Plot, which would be plague.

[DFelon204409]

DFelon, did you hear about Fordirelifesake's guitarist leaving the band to play drums for Boys Night Out? Sad, sad day.

It's retarded. At least the new album has been recorded. If you want to hear the new song just open my myspace profile. It's my "homepage."

[BuddyBigsby]

I downloaded it a few weeks ago from Thorp's website and I love it. I might buy it from them soon, especially since they have this cool contest. If you're the 100th person to order it, you get an Ipod filled with a bunch of Thorp Records releases.

[BuddyBigsby]

New Hopesfall:

http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=1242196&Mytoken=20040803203405

I think they're taking after Underoath...

[DFelon204409]

That sounds off. You know what else is weird is I've been checking that site for a while and the one day I don't check they put up the new song. Weak sauce.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Ewwy. His voice sounds baaad.

[syrUsbilt]

ermmm...anyways..


Bones Brigade! Download them if you are into skateboarding and/or hardcore. Best band EVER.

[shane italian]

Have you ever heard of a guy by the name of Shaved Head Paul?

[syrUsbilt]

Have you ever heard of a guy by the name of Shaved Head Paul?


that'd be me. I shaved my head yesterday. Its so cool.

[shane italian]

Haha, well this guy out here was with skated with Bones Brigade or something and he's huge with booking out in Dallas.

[bandanaintheback]

hey what about bands like as i lay dying or even unearth?

[syrUsbilt]

thats weird. because I shaved my head and my name is paul. Bizarre. I just saw bones brigade last night. They were awesome. All the other bands sucked but they were crazy good.

[shane italian]

They played in Dallas a month or two ago. I didn't feel the desire to go. Who would you compare them to?

[syrUsbilt]

Bones Brigade is like...I dont know they are a great mix of punk and hardcore. Hard to compare them to anyone, if you want an MP3 just IM me at brightXnightsrva and I'll send you a song.

[bandanaintheback]

THRASHER MAG is always hyping bones brigade up they got articles all the time on them you guys should check it out

[shane italian]

This is to Bubba: I heard that The Plot ARE going to play the Since By Man show.

[syrUsbilt]

I don't really read skate mags that much but I can see why that'd be...seeing as like half their songs talk about skating.

[shane italian]

I have been on a holdxfast binge right now, along with First Blood, One Life Crew, and Terror.

BROKEN BONES FOR YOUR BROKEN EDGE. I wish I was edge so I could sing that with heart.

[syrUsbilt]

hahah. the best sing along line ever is Down to Nothing's "I hope its worth it"

Put that cancer stick in your mouth
INHALE and let that **** destroy your lungs
You pat for it, you look cool with it
And then you die with it

It makes you look so mature
Too bad it makes me want to walk away from you
That smell makes me sick
And I don’t want to choke
Not me, you
I want you to choke

STRAIGHT EDGE IN YOUR ****ING FACE!

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Go ahead and X up, sellout.
Go ahead and X up, **** You.
Straight Edge for a while,
a crooked X for that crooked smile.
A new trend, a new start, t
he X on your hand will never be there in your heart.

STRAIGHT ****ING EDGE

[syrUsbilt]

Go ahead and X up, sellout.
Go ahead and X up, **** You.
Straight Edge for a while,
a crooked X for that crooked smile.
A new trend, a new start, t
he X on your hand will never be there in your heart.

STRAIGHT ****ING EDGE


casey jones! helllll yes. they are so metally but so good.

[shane italian]

hahah. the best sing along line ever is Down to Nothing's "I hope its worth it"

Put that cancer stick in your mouth
INHALE and let that **** destroy your lungs
You pat for it, you look cool with it
And then you die with it

It makes you look so mature
Too bad it makes me want to walk away from you
That smell makes me sick
And I don’t want to choke
Not me, you
I want you to choke

STRAIGHT EDGE IN YOUR ****ING FACE!Cancer sticks rule. Especially Unfiltered Camel Turkish Domestic Blend

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I love that song.

I'm lazy someone post the lyrics to DrugxTest - Down the Stairs

[syrUsbilt]

Cancer sticks rule. Especially Unfiltered Camel Turkish Domestic Blend

Dont you miss doing things like walking up stairs and moving briskly?

[shane italian]

Stay Gold lyrics own all. Posi4life

EDIT: That was to myself.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Cancer cures smoking.

[syrUsbilt]

^I think i've seen that on a shirt.

[shane italian]

Cancer cures smoking.Brutal beatings cure mouthy Greeks.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Greasy eye-talies. I'm going to throw you DOWN THE STAIRS!

[syrUsbilt]

Greasy eye-talies. I'm going to throw you DOWN THE STAIRS!

*is a greasy eye-talie* :upset:

[shane italian]

*is a greasy eye-talie* :upset:Once I quit smoking we can make a crew.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Hahah I didn't mean you, but now there are 2 hairy Italians here who like hardcore.

[syrUsbilt]

hahah. XMXSXEX

[syrUsbilt]

Hahah I didn't mean you, but now there are 2 hairy Italians here who like hardcore.


I have barely any hair on my head..but I have alot on my peen. Soooooo yeah.

[shane italian]

Our crew will be so crucial. You talk s'hit to my boi, you get whacked.

[syrUsbilt]

Man...xMXsXex is so crucial it has FOUR X's IN THE NAME. Crazy.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

What ever happened to our old crew?

xTotallyXMoshxKillxFightx

[shane italian]

I wonder what my stance on things will be once im clean. I think I should go edge and be crucial to the max.

[shane italian]

What ever happened to our old crew?

xTotallyXMoshxKillxFightxI though it was xTOTALLYxF'UCKINGxMOSHxSOMEx

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I donno mabye, I forget.

[shane italian]

Maybe I made the name but no one followed...:upset:

[BuddyBigsby]

This is to Bubba: I heard that The Plot ARE going to play the Since By Man show.

Yeah, but now Since By Man aren't playing. Head Automatica is playing instead.

[shane italian]

Then I guess I won't go.

[DFelon204409]

Head Automatica has few friends. They're weird. Bring back Glassjaw.

[PaUsE36]

very good job on the whole topic