Hardcore Community Thread

[REINER]

Word. Which one counts as the 7000th post?

[obese_breasts]

I would say 40's

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Woah, didn't even notice.

[honkybrewster]

What would you classify Ed Gein as?

[REINER]

Grindcore most likely.

[honkybrewster]

That's cool, because I can't usually get into grind.

[BuddyBigsby]

What does everybody think of Crowpath?

Kind of out of place here, but badass nonetheless.

[Shannon Deadbeat]

Grind=god

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

Kind of out of place here, but badass nonetheless.
Yeah, I just picked up their cd really randomly yesterday. I remember seeing them on Rrobotic Empire's site so I bought it and I love it.

In the last like month I've bought more than 40 cds... (hardcore/metalcore and other genres)


To name a few bands


CTTS
A Day In Black In White
Saosin
Pg.99
Crowpath
Napalm Death
Locust
The Verse
Rise Against
Atreyu
Four Hundred Years
The Red Scare
Heroin
Angel Hair
Converge
Death By Stereo
Carcass
Dillinger Escape Plan

Like 20 more.

Like half of them were for christmas, but still... This has been a good month.

[obese_breasts]

Yeah, I just picked up their cd really randomly yesterday. I remember seeing them on Rrobotic Empire's site so I bought it and I love it.

In the last like month I've bought more than 40 cds... (hardcore/metalcore and other genres)


To name a few bands


CTTS
A Day In Black In White
Saosin
Pg.99
Crowpath
Napalm Death
Locust
The Verse
Rise Against
Atreyu
Four Hundred Years
The Red Scare
Heroin
Angel Hair
Converge
Death By Stereo
Carcass
Dillinger Escape Plan

Like 20 more.

Like half of them were for christmas, but still... This has been a good month.

Damn, someone has some money to burn. Damn nice selection there.

[cbmartinez]

Word. Where the hell did you find CDs by The Red Scare, Pageninety, CTTS, etc.?

endthisday, yay or nay?

[wearer of socks]

the only cool hardcore bands that are coming to my area are snapcase (final show!) and misery signals. I wish i could afford 40 cds....i wish i could afford one cd :(

[obese_breasts]

endthisday, yay or nay?

never heard them

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

Word. Where the hell did you find CDs by The Red Scare, Pageninety, CTTS, etc.?

endthisday, yay or nay?
Most of them I buy off various websites.

[capri sun junkie]

I see Pg.99, The Locust, and Angel Hair. I recommend you some Corn On Macabre.

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

the only cool hardcore bands that are coming to my area are snapcase (final show!) and misery signals. I wish i could afford 40 cds....i wish i could afford one cd :(
I got alot of gift certificates for cd stores for christmas (plus, I got 200 dollars for christmas, and more than 10 of the cds I got for christmas... so yeah)

[cbmartinez]

New Kill Your Idols is fun.

http://www.purevolume.com/killyouridols

[CONNER_NWHC]

Who likes Lights out?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Lights Out are pretty good.

[xFourStringGrenadex]

What are you guys thoughts on the new Bury Your Dead album?

[shane italian]

Got it a month or two ago, and it's still playing non-stop in my car.

[NewKindofArmy03]

The songs I heard were boring, I didn't really like them. I have another song by them called 10 minute romance or something and I like that song.

[shane italian]

Poosie.

So anyways, I'm starting a coalition[sp?] of edge kids against vegetarianism/veganism. Who's with me? If we get big enough I'm sure we can get Slapshot on our side.

[REINER]

Got it a month or two ago, and it's still playing non-stop in my car.But Shane hasn't heard it since he can't drive cause he stole his own car.

[shane italian]

But Shane hasn't heard it since he can't drive cause he stole his own car.It's on my iPod too dummy :)

[REINER]

Hahahah.

Umm since I'm pro killing small defenseless things, I'm in.

[shane italian]

Oh, and my road test is the 25th at 8AM.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Mine is Feb 4.

[CONNER_NWHC]

http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/12619/

These guys F'ucking rule check em out.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I like Lights Out, awesome live.

And whoever keeps saying 'The Verse', I'm pretty sure it's just Verse. Unless you're talking about a completely different band.

[shane italian]

Dammit, I need to re-rip this Saves The Day cd. It got all jacked up on a few tracks.

[CONNER_NWHC]

I like Lights Out, awesome live.

And whoever keeps saying 'The Verse', I'm pretty sure it's just Verse. Unless you're talking about a completely different band.
It is just Verse.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

If it's the one you made me download I have it.

EDIT: To Shane. Thanks noneed.

[shane italian]

Nawh, Unless you have Can't Slow Down.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Nope!

[shane italian]

Jerk, how can you not own some form of Can't Slow Down?

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I might, but I'm pretty sure I just have Through Being Cool and that B-sides one.

[BuddyBigsby]

I have Can't Slow Down.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

You always gotta one-up me don't you Buddy.

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah, you're like Buddy Lite.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

:lol:

[cbmartinez]

Off the second page. Gay. Sticky this bitch.

[REINER]

There are a million stickies right now. I want to take them all off.

[REINER]

YES! My Procedure 7" came.

[shane italian]

*is still waiting for Champion and Terror merch*

it's only been a week though...so I should stop bitching

[REINER]

Hah, I ordered mine Friday.

[shane italian]

Yeah, but that's compensation for you being gay.

[REINER]

Hahahaha.

[FVckingHostile666]

how can you not say agnnostic front in hardcore bands




and im in a grindcore band, i play bass but only live because recorded bass in grindcore doesnt sound right. were like anal cunt with music and some song titles

[NewKindofArmy03]

http://webstore.1917records.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=50&osCsid=2b80268a92da7823857f928cd355ab48 This is really cheap, i'm probably going to buy it.

And AF have been talked about a lot in here.

[cbmartinez]

Links?

[REINER]

Is that MCD on vinyl or cd? That's a good deal. B9 has deals like that with a bunch of bands.

Did you expect us to list every hardcore band there ever was?

[NewKindofArmy03]

I'm pretty sure it's a cd.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Is that MCD on vinyl or cd? That's a good deal. B9 has deals like that with a bunch of bands.

Did you expect us to list every hardcore band there ever was?
What does MCD stand for anyway?

[cbmartinez]

Never heard Life Or Death.

[shane italian]

Life or Death are way cool in my book. Fun live.

MCD = Mini CD

[NewKindofArmy03]

What does MCD stand for anyway?
I asked before. I forget who answered, but it's longer then an EP and not as long as a full-length. For example, this has 8 songs.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Someone Tab out Kids Like Us- Meet me at the swingset.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Never heard Life Or Death.
http://www.1917records.com/mp3/lifeordeath-ultimoaviso.mp3
That song reminded me of Terror.

[REINER]

MCD is a 10" record.

I might tab it out. If I don't do it tonight, remind me tomorrow.

[shane italian]

http://www.1917records.com/mp3/lifeordeath-ultimoaviso.mp3
That song reminded me of Terror.They used to be more of an old school band, then they went heavy as f'uck.

[CONNER_NWHC]

K thanks.

[cbmartinez]

http://www.1917records.com/mp3/lifeordeath-ultimoaviso.mp3
That song reminded me of Terror.

Whoa, this is pretty cool. Agreed about the Terror comparison.

mmmmmm, chugga chugga

[NewKindofArmy03]

I found a Life or Death cd for a dollar in one of those bins in a local record store, but I doubt it was them. It was a split with some other band I never heard of.

[shane italian]

I don't see the Terror comparison. Haha.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Vocally, I think they sound exactly like Scott. They're a little different musically, but I still think their similar.

[REINER]

I can see the comparison, don't agree with it 100%. Vocals are similar, guitar tone is the same, just different chord progressions.

[cbmartinez]

Breakdowns a-plenty, random rap ending, this song is hot.

[REINER]

Their breakdowns differ a lot from Terror.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yeah, Terror's breakdowns are faster and aren't straight up chugga chugga riffs.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

They really don't sound like Terror much at all.

[REINER]

Finished the tab.
http://www.mxtabs.net/approval2.php?id=186715

Approve that **** son.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Thanks man good work.

[REINER]

No problem. Took longer to type out than it did to figure it out.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Is it in Normal tuning?

[REINER]

Drop D.

[IamtheTarMonster!]

im not sure if this has been asked but, what are sick of it all im pretty sure its hard core but i dont know

[Johnny EPHC]

Reiner, you should tab out Wake The Dead if you have a chance.

[El_Shiznit]

im not sure if this has been asked but, what are sick of it all im pretty sure its hard core but i dont know
They are.

[REINER]

Yes they are.

Umm I might get around to it. I'm busy the next couple days, so if I ever did it wouldn't be untill next week. All depends on how lazy I'm feeling.

[Johnny EPHC]

Yes they are.

Umm I might get around to it. I'm busy the next couple days, so if I ever did it wouldn't be untill next week. All depends on how lazy I'm feeling.
No rush, man. Thanks if you get to it.

[obese_breasts]

a Wake the Dead tab would be cool, I have figured out alot of the song but I could use help on some parts.

[BuddyBigsby]

Anyone heard anything from the new 7 Seconds or any reviews or anything?

[BuddyBigsby]

Whoa there, almost got to the second page.

[REINER]

I heard it was good, but more like pop punkish.

I figured out some of it in my head while driving home. It's mostly just open chords and octaves.

[NewKindofArmy03]

FEB. 12th at the first unitarian church
3:30 pm
kill your idols
crime in stereo
forward to death
one more tba

A bunch of good shows have been announced lately. There's another show that night as well. And Strike anywhere is the next day.

[REINER]

Similar show here, but it's a sunday which is lame.

SUN/FEB 6 @ Bloomfield Ave Cafe in Montclair, NJ
347 Bloomfield Ave 5pm $8
Kill Your Idols w/ Crime In Stereo, Forward To Death, This Means War

I figured out the intro/chorus of Wake the Dead, to lazy to do the rest.

[chips88]

I suck at figuring out songs, on bass too!!

[cbmartinez]

I'm biznasty at tabbing. I'm like the 11th top bass tabber or something.

[REINER]

Hahaha. I never tab anythign out anymore. Always seems to take longer than actually figuring it out.

[shane italian]

WTF! Why is it that when I want to order something, s'hit goes wrong? First Bridge9 goes out of stock, now Merchnow has a credit decline. I have no idea what a credit decline is and I'm pretty confused because my family has perfect credit.

[cbmartinez]

Bankrupt'd!

[BuddyBigsby]

WTF! Why is it that when I want to order something, s'hit goes wrong? First Bridge9 goes out of stock, now Merchnow has a credit decline. I have no idea what a credit decline is and I'm pretty confused because my family has perfect credit.

1. Card could be expired
2. You might've put in some information wrong
3. Maybe your credit isn't good after all / Bills are overdue
4. You're gay

They don't give information as to why credit is declined to merchants, but if you call the credit card company they can tell you. Also, like the store I work for runs all our credit cards and checks through a company called Certegy, and when a check or a card is declined, the customer can call Certegy to see exactly why. Merchnow probably also goes through a similar company, and if they work at all like my store, it should give you the name of the company and a number to call. That would actually probably be preferable to calling the credit card company.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Hatebreed are such a ****ing good band.

[Silvermedalmafia]

I never set out to try to figure out a song, but if I just sit down and play the strangest things come out when I am totally not paying attention. this was how I discovered Small town pride by RCR, Smash it up by t(i)nc (for bass), play that funky music and secret agent man. And Shane, wipe off the little black magnetic strip on your card.

[NewKindofArmy03]

4. You're gay


Hahaha, I didn't expect that.

And Hatebreed rule.

[shane italian]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/waterwingsend/project1copy.jpg

Feedback.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

What is it exactly.

[cbmartinez]

The new trendy clothing line straight from the streets of Irvine, brought to you by S Nizzle.

[shane italian]

It's for my graphic design projects.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Looks good. But gasmasks remind of Linkin Park and No Warning.

[cbmartinez]

I'd buy it to look cool.

[BuddyBigsby]

And Shane, wipe off the little black magnetic strip on your card.

He's ordering offline... he doesn't swipe anything.

I like the design. Use it.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I'm reading a thread on B9 about famous people who were or still are in punk/hardcore and i'm surprised by some the answers i've heard. I never knew Moby was in a hardcore band in the 80's.

[REINER]

I remember hearing something to that extent.

Haha the B9 boards, filled with retards. TheNJscene is the same, just different retards.

[CONNER_NWHC]

I just read on B9 i never post there.

[shane italian]

Ahhh, now I can understand why Moby was in Boston Beatdown...

[shane italian]

http://merchnow.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TER&Product_Code=TER:TERCOL-T&Category_Code=SHIRTS&Product_Count=5
http://merchnow.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CHP&Product_Code=CHAMPION%3ACMPPKB-H
http://merchnow.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=m&Product_Code=CHAMPION%3ACMPS3

My [re]order.

[NewKindofArmy03]

The one dude from Outkast is vegan and used to be edge and goes to shows in Atlanta too. Lil Jon is into Bad Brains, but I already knew that.

[shane italian]

The skinny guy from outkast? That all the girls like?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Andre, I don't know what one that is.

[CONNER_NWHC]

I have the same hoodie as the one your ordering shane.

[CONNER_NWHC]

The one dude from Outkast is vegan and used to be edge and goes to shows in Atlanta too. Lil Jon is into Bad Brains, but I already knew that.
Post the link from B9

[shane italian]

I have the same hoodie as the one your ordering shane.Is it made well?

[REINER]

Shane your paying 55 bucks for all that?

Someone made a hockey team called the Bad Brains and put the lightening bolt logo on it.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Andre, I don't know what one that is.

Yeah, he's the skinny one.

[shane italian]

Shane your paying 55 bucks for all that?

Someone made a hockey team called the Bad Brains and put the lightening bolt logo on it.It was originally 40...but I got the whole UPS 3 Day thing.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Is it made well?
Ya its pretty good, mine shrunk alot when i washed it and put it in the dryer.

[CONNER_NWHC]

It was originally 40...but I got the whole UPS 3 Day thing.
Merch now stuff comes pretty fast anyways.

[shane italian]

I did that because I ordered like 8 days ago to find out they cancelled it for credit decline because of the card limit. So I want my stuff fast now.

[REINER]

Wow, your getting jewed.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Post the link from B9
http://www.bridge9.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78949

[NewKindofArmy03]

Wow, your getting jewed.
That's how much most sites will cost.

I ordered my Ten Yard Fight hoodie from there, I can't find it now though.

EDIT- http://evrstore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=EVRS&Product_Code=EVR%20TYFHP-H&Category_Code=TY&Product_Count=0 there it is, i don't know why it doesn't have anything about merchnow on there now.

[shane italian]

Wow, your getting Greeked.Yes, I know.

[shane italian]

Weird, De La Rocha is from Irvine.

[CONNER_NWHC]

That's how much most sites will cost.

I ordered my Ten Yard Fight hoodie from there, I can't find it now though.

EDIT- http://evrstore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=EVRS&Product_Code=EVR%20TYFHP-H&Category_Code=TY&Product_Count=0 there it is, i don't know why it doesn't have anything about merchnow on there now.
Nice Hoodie.

[shane italian]

http://merchnow.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MPB&Product_Code=MPB%3AMPBDHC-H

Best hoodie. Ever.

[REINER]

Haha. I'd prefer it if it was only an AK.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

My hoodie.

http://merchnow.com/store/graphics/00000035/champ-crestZ.jpg

[shane italian]

That's weird that they use Circa hoodies.

[REINER]

I didn't like any of Champions merch when I saw them. I wanted to get a shirt, but they were all lame.

[shane italian]

http://merchnow.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=m&Product_Code=CHAMPION:CMPDRG-T&Category_Code=CHP&Product_Count=14

How can you say that shirt isn't sick?

[REINER]

It's a shame they didn't have it with them. They're only good ones were a long sleeve which I don't wear and a windbreaker, which no one wears.

[shane italian]

Hahahah, my wannabe Boston friends wear windbreakers.

[REINER]

Windbreakers don't do **** when there is no wind. A hoodie is more practical.

[CONNER_NWHC]

http://merchnow.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=m&Product_Code=CHAMPION:CMPDRG-T&Category_Code=CHP&Product_Count=14

How can you say that shirt isn't sick?
Every sxe kid in the northwest has that shirt.

[BuddyBigsby]

New Acapellica. It's not Slayer, but whatcha gonna do?

www.purevolume.com/acapellica

[capri sun junkie]

Awesome! On Broken Wings!

[REINER]

NO SLAYER!!!!!

You fail me Buddy.


Haha you should of done Listless. Good song still.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Why is every fag moshing in the hell fest dvd wearing a backpack?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Hahaha thats great. But yeah you should have done Slayer. You can't run like the dickens forever.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Why is every fag moshing in the hell fest dvd wearing a backpack?
They bought merch?

[POINTLESS5448]

Why is every fag moshing in the hell fest dvd wearing a backpack?

To keep their **** in. Duh.
I wear mine all the time.

[REINER]

Atleast they're not wearing fanny packs.

[shane italian]

New Acapellica. It's not Slayer, but whatcha gonna do?

www.purevolume.com/acapellicaGood job! I luff me some OBW.

[NewKindofArmy03]

i'm sick of television i'm sick of television i'm sick of television i'm sick of you

Suicide File rule, everybody here should listen to them.

[REINER]

This is true. They're coming out with like a Best of Album. If I didn't already have all their releases I would get it. I think it might have like 1 or 2 unreleased songs.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I heard about that. If it has some extra stuff i'll probably get it.

[REINER]

This needs to be reiterated. Suicide File > 98% of bands on the face of this planet.

[BuddyBigsby]

Uh, if you're talking about the Suicide File thing that Indecision just released its not a greatest hits. It's everything they put out minus the full length, re-released in one convenient package.

[chips88]

What is Champion's website? I tried googl'ing it, and it did not come up.

[BuddyBigsby]

www.xchampionx.com

[REINER]

www.xchampionx.com

I think that's it

*tries it after posts it*

Yup thats it.

[REINER]

Uh, if you're talking about the Suicide File thing that Indecision just released its not a greatest hits. It's everything they put out minus the full length, re-released in one convenient package.Ahh, someone told me it had a new track or two and was random old songs. Oh well I already have all of it then.

[BuddyBigsby]

Well yeah, that's pretty much it.

[chips88]

www.xchampionx.com

thanks a bunch :thumb:

[CONNER_NWHC]

http://photobucket.com/albums/v230/noneed66/?action=view&current=Caughtinmidstomp.jpg

Thats me sqaushing some bugs.

[Silvermedalmafia]

http://photobucket.com/albums/v230/noneed66/?action=view&current=InStride3.jpg

You have a very nice, tight arse.

[CONNER_NWHC]

That aint me but im in that pick.

[Silvermedalmafia]

Oh i get it now. I thought that the guitarist was you and you had just finished "squishing the bug", hence the one foot forward.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Im the stomper.

[pedro durruti]

http://www.musicianforums.com/sputnik/album.php?reviewid=1697&genreid=14

[CONNER_NWHC]

Nice review Peter.

[Peg Dizzler]

Here's an awesome example of grindcore for everyone. :thumb:

http://www.seeyount.com/
or
http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/9355/

I'm not the biggest hardcore/metalcore/whatever fan, I'm mostly into power/melodic metal, but I have to admit this is some crazy stuff and I really love the sweeping in "The Seduction of Suzy Banyon." Whoa! :amaze:

[REINER]

I dislike sweeping. Mainly because it's damn near immpossible to play.

[guardian_of_blind]

**Decided to bring this into the Punk Forum. If it turns into a spam/agrument thread then close it as soon as possible. It's meant for education and actual discussion.


This is for those of you who throw around the the phrase hardcore far too often.

Metalcore is often mistaken for Hardcore on these boards. Here's the difference.

Hardcore is punk influenced music that sometimes has a heavier sound and sometime's doesn't. It sometimes have breakdowns and some don't, this depends more on the age of the band. Some are straight edge, some aren't. But most have honest sincere lyrics about issues that they themselves face.

Metalcore is obviously metal influenced and because they're of this there is more complexity in the writings of guitar, more noted riffs added to it than hardcore has.. Some say that it has punk influences...but that depends on what band you are talking about. Metalcore has a lot of breakdowns, most of which have the "JUN JUN JUN" sound which some double bass. Metalcore was a lot better a couple years ago before more and more band's started learning that you can tune into drop-C, use only thin picks, and get a drummer who knows his double bass.

Hardcore bands:
Blood For Blood, Chain Of Strength, American Nightmare, Death Threat, Judge, Gorilla Biscuits, 7 Seconds, Champion, Count Me Out, Carry On, Terror

Metalcore bands:
Hatebreed, 100 Demons, Bury Your Dead, Black My Heart, On Broken Wings, Hoods, North Side Kings, Walls Of Jericho, Clenched Fist

MORE BY SK8SKANJ

Grindcore in its purest form consisted of short, apocalyptic blasts of noise played on standard heavy metal instrumentation (distorted guitar, bass, drums). Although grindcore wasn't just randomly improvised, it certainly didn't follow conventional structure, either; while riffs could sometimes be picked out, pure grindcore never featured verses, choruses, or even melodies. Grindcore vocals sounded torturous, ranging from high-pitched shrieks to low, throat-shredding growls and barks; although the lyrics were usually quite verbose, they were very rarely intelligible. Some bands in this catagory can also be known as Mathcore or Tech Metal, meaning they're more complex in the musical writings and tend to be more organized.

Grindcore bands:
Napalm Death, Dillinger Escape Plan, Death, Carcass, The Locust, The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza, **** and Ball Torture, Pig Destroyer, Agoraphobic Nosebleed...

Emo style has become broader over the years. In the beginning, these bands consisted mostly of people who played in hardcore punk bands, got burned out its limited forms, and moved to a guitar-oriented, midtempo rock-based sound with emotional punk vocals (i.e., no posed soulful crooning like pop music). The central aspect here is the guitars - distorted, strummed mostly in duo unison, with occasional catchy riff highlights. This becomes known as the classic "D.C. sound," along with the octave chords that show up in later "emo" music. Later bands bring in more pop elements, like catchy-riff based songs, pop song structures (listen to Jawbreaker's "Chesterfield King" to illustrate this), and less-punk, more-smoothly-sung high-register singing (less yelling, straining, throatiness). Listen to Elliot or Chamberlain for an example of how alternative-pop this music has become. Yet those bands are undeniably still emocore. Also note most emo bands play Gibson Les Paul guitars, with a few SGs, and use mostly Marshall JCM-800 amps...Emo has recently evolved into something more complex since the D.C. era. Bands have adopted to more obscure lyrics along with intricate riffs and interesting vocals.

Emo bands:
Rites of Spring, Embrace, Gray Matter, Ignition, Dag Nasty, Monsula, Fugazi kind of, Fuel, Samiam, Jawbreaker, Hot Water Music, Elliot, Friction, Soulside, early Lifetime, Split Lip/Chamberlain, Kerosene 454

Post-Hardcore
In the early-to-mid '80s, several bands in the United States came to life that were inspired by the do-it-yourself ethics and the cathartic, guitar-heavy material characterized by the hardcore punk bands that predated them. These newer bands, termed post-hardcore, often found complex and dynamic ways of blowing off steam that generally went outside the strict hardcore realm of "loud fast rules." These bands often used more than three chords and they also creatively built and released tension rather than airing their dirty laundry in short, sharp, frenetic bursts. Additionally, many of these bands' vocalists were just as likely to deliver their lyrics with a whispered croon as they were a maniacal yelp. Along with Husker Du, Naked Raygun was one of the first U.S. post-punk bands of the early '80s that merged melodic influences with punk/hardcore. These were the first two bands (Husker and Naked Raygun) in 1981. With other bands in the Chicago scene such as the Effigies, Breaking Circus and Man Sized Action followed by later bands such as Fugazi, Quicksand, Dag Nasty and Mission Of Burma. Another important influence on many of these bands was U.K. post-punk from the late '70s and early '80s; Gang of Four, Public Image Limited, Joy Division, and Wire played a significant role in many of the bands' musical growth.
yes i see wat u mean all of these people saying unearth is hardcore which it obviously isnt are pissen me off im glad u started this thread. Never forget Thrice wen u list hardcore bands though.

[REINER]

Ehh. They're not really a hardcore band. May have some hardcore influences, but not a hardcore band.

[Peg Dizzler]

I dislike sweeping. Mainly because it's damn near immpossible to play.

Hmm.. that's the reason why I like it. I guess I just like guitar playing to the extreme. I can't do full sweeps across all 6 strings, but here and there I can.

[cbmartinez]

Just got back from the Marigold show. The main guitarist was wearing a Taken shirt, the second guitar had Breather Resist and the merch dude had a Coliseum shirt. I was pretty excited about Taken. I didn't get to see We're All Broken and Bill wasn't there.

[REINER]

I never got around to listening to Marigold, probably should.

[BentTwig]

So I just got to reading this thread after looking up some tool tabs, and this thread caught my eye. You guys seem to know what your talking about, so i hope you could answer this question.
I go to a snobby white school, where people know sh!t about music, and there is a group of f@ggot metrosexual girl pants wearers that I hate, that claim they listen to Hardcore music. I don't know much about genres in music, but I know these kids aren't in it for the music, its what comes with the music. The thing is they listen to some of the same music I listen to, Like Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, and Eighteen Visions, and stuff like that. They say that music is hardcore, but I didn't think they were, since it's hard to listen to "I Won't See You TOnight" or "Warmness of the SOul" by A7X and think that that is Hardcore, because when I think Hardcore, I think "HARDCORE," like rip your balls of metal. I read that Hardcore has punk influences, and these guys definately do, but are they Hardcore? or something else, and what is with guys wearing fuKKing makeup, girls pants, and dyed hair? Thats not hardcore to me.

[cbmartinez]

I never got around to listening to Marigold, probably should.

http://www.purevolume.com/marigold

[REINER]

Those bands are not hardcore.

Hardcore is mainly influenced by punk. Only recently it has slight metal influences.

[BuddyBigsby]

Cb: How were Marigold?!

Benttwig: You're a smart lad. Those bands are not hardcore at all. They get called that for some reason, but that's about as deep as it goes. Hardcore actually has nothing to do with metal for the most part, and it is basically aggressive punk music.

[StruckEverywhere]

Those bands are not hardcore.

Hardcore is mainly influenced by punk. Only recently it has slight metal influences.

The metal influences making it Metalcore? Or is it still Hardcore with metal influences?

[BuddyBigsby]

Depends on the band. Like a lot of NYHC is metal influenced, but is considered hardcore because that's just how NYHC sounds. But when you have a band that takes the metal influence further, like Merauder, 100 Demons, or Bury Your Dead... then it's metalcore.

[StruckEverywhere]

Depends on the band. Like a lot of NYHC is metal influenced, but is considered hardcore because that's just how NYHC sounds. But when you have a band that takes the metal influence further, like Merauder, 100 Demons, or Bury Your Dead... then it's metalcore.

Thanks, I always found it hard to tell, like Refused some of their early stuff sounds to me like Metalcore but are generally referred to as a Hardcore band, so I wasn't sure if they where a Metalcore band or Hardcore with metal influences.

[BuddyBigsby]

Refused are generally considered experimental hardcore.

[StruckEverywhere]

I just see them as possibly the greatest band there ever was.

[BuddyBigsby]

It was only a matter of time.

www.myspace.com/acapellica

[StruckEverywhere]

Yeah, that link's not working.

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

Refused weren't as good on The Shape Of Punk To Come. I perfer Everlasting or Songs To Fan The Songs Of Discontent. TSOPTC didn't do it for me.

[REINER]

I like tall their releases.

With Honor's van got broken into. Money and stuff stolen.

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

I like tall their releases.

With Honor's van got broken into. Money and stuff stolen.
I didn't nescisarily dislike TSOPTC, I just couldn't get into the songs.

[shane italian]

With Honor's van got broken into. Money and stuff stolen.That's so jacked. I'll be sure to buy lots of merch.

[cbmartinez]

Cb: How were Marigold?!

They were the best set. They played 6 or 7 songs. The three from the demo (I'll send you it on AIM if you want, the recording quality is really good) and three new ones. The new ones had some harder parts so they brought a little mosh. I got knocked right into Vadim. But there really ****ing amazing, they're the band most likely to get signed to a bigger label. Vadim's voice is incredible and they're songs go from chaotic to beautiful and spacy all while he's still just singing. They do have some screaming from the 2nd guitar, but it's selective so it doesn't come off sounding fake or unemotional. Vadim plays some amazing stuff while singing too. I also found out from their cool as hell merch guy (who was wearing a Coliseum shirt) that Vadim is in a band Superstitions Of The Sky (I believe they are acoustic) with members of Hot Cross and Neil Perry. Vadim was wearing the Taken And They Slept shirt by the way.

Again, you can here "Movement One In A Minor" and "This Day Has Opened My Eyes" from the demo and a rough version of "No 12" at http://www.purevolume.com/marigold. There's one more song on the demo "Footsteps" that I can send you if you want.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I like tall their releases.

With Honor's van got broken into. Money and stuff stolen.
**** that sucks. I shall buy merch.

[REINER]

They setup a paypal thing for donations. But I'd rather get something out of it by buying merch.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Who steals prescription meds? At least they didn't get any gear stolen though.

[REINER]

Yeah. If they stole the meds it was probably some crack addicts, or someone who wanted them to die.

The plot thickens.....

[shane italian]

Or maybe it was DocCrox.

[Silvermedalmafia]

Why is it always hardcore bands that get their stuff stolen?

[theramed toothpaste]

hi i'm relativly new to hardcore but i'm startin to like it. any good albums or compilations that you can recomend (i like refused and blood for blood if that helps so musiclike that)

thanks

[REINER]

Madball
Agnostic Front
Terror

Are a few bands you might like judging by that you listen to B4B and Refused.

[theramed toothpaste]

Madball
Agnostic Front
Terror

Are a few bands you might like judging by that you listen to B4B and Refused.

cheers but is there any albums that you can recomend

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Terror - Lowest Of The Low

[CONNER_NWHC]

Its good to start off with some bands like Carry On, Count me out, Stay Gold.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Its good to start off with some bands like Carry On, Count me out, Stay Gold.
Definitely.

[cbmartinez]

I think I figured out the intro riff thing to "Distance And Meaning" by Converge. Didn't someone on here ask for it?

[REINER]

I didn't ask for it, but I wouldn't mind learning it.

[cbmartinez]

Hmmm, how can I send you it?

[REINER]

Ummm, soulseek?

[cbmartinez]

Don't got it. Why did they take away the code html thing anway? I could have used that. I don't know, lemme see if I can make it look semi-good on here...

[REINER]

I donno, yeah just posting it here is fine.

[cbmartinez]

D|-6xx6-----------6xx6-----------6xx6---------------|
A|-----------------------------------------------4b-|
F|-4xx4-4/5/6/7/8-4xx4-4/5/6/7/8-4xx4-4/5/6/7/8-7b-|

D|-6xx6-------------6xx6-------------6xx6----------------|
A|-----------------------------------------------------4b-|
F|-4xx4-4/5/7/8\7\5-4xx4-4/5/7/8\7\5-4xx4-4/5/7/8\7\5-7b-|

It's one of those I believe. Tell me if it sounds close.

[REINER]

Alright cool. Thank god I'm already in Drop C. Way to lazy to tune to it normally.

[REINER]

Did you do that in Drop C? Those octave should be 2x4.

Blegth I wish I could get that tone out of my amp.

I don't think you need to slide back down one fret.

[cbmartinez]

Well, the other parts of the song need Drop C so I tabbed it in that. You could play that main riff in Drop D like you said.

[cbmartinez]

Homewrecker goes something like

Intro
C|-81111111111-81111800-81111111111-81111121212
G|-81111111111-81111800-81111111111-81111121212
C|-81111111111-81111800-81111111111-81111121212

Verse
F|-----9------9-------9------9------------------------------------|
C|-780-75-780-75-780-75-780-75---------------------------------|
G|--------------------------------780875-780875-780875-780875--|
C|----------------------------------------------------------------|

Dem some ugly tabs.

[REINER]

That's The Broken Vow.
I found a good tab of that.

http://www.metalhordes.com/xalexxtabs/tab.php?op=viewband&band=Converge
http://www.metalhordes.com/xalexxtabs/tabs/1058869338_Converge%20-%20The%20Broken%20Vow.txt

Also that 7h8 9 part is really 12h13 14 but one string lower. It's correct, but thats the way Kurt plays it. Also he doesn't pick any of it. All hammering.

http://www.metalhordes.com/xalexxtabs/tabs/1058463109_Converge%20-%20Homewrecker.txt
That's homewrecker.

[cbmartinez]

****, owned. Mixed the song titles and not even playing it right. I think I'll try to tackle "Phoenix In Flight" or "Jane Doe." The rest of "Distance And Meaning" is impossible to hear.

[REINER]

Haha, I've done that before too. You'd be god if you were to figure out the end of Drop Out. It's like inhuman as to what Kurt plays.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, the fact that you can't hear anything in the mess of vocals, bass and drums doesn't make the tabbing any easier either. I don't know how people could ever figure out "Concubine," "Thaw" or "Fault And Fracture." The part that always amazes me is if you listen really closely during the ending bridge part of "Fault And Fracture" where everything cuts out except for those fast ascending guitar chords. When everything jumps back in if you listen to the second guitar, holy ****. I don't understand what it's doing. I don't know if it's sliding or really high stacatto notes or something but it sounds so weird. Check that out.

[REINER]

Hahaha yeah. He plays things that I can't like even fathom what he's playing.

[cbmartinez]

Ah Converge, will we ever fathom your greatness.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Haha, I've done that before too. You'd be god if you were to figure out the end of Drop Out. It's like inhuman as to what Kurt plays.
I love that riff.

[NewKindofArmy03]

WHOA! I just saw an ALL ELSE FAILED video on tv. That was awesome.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Has anyone seen BYD's 'The Color Of Money' video? It's ****ing awesome.
http://www.victoryrecords.com/Videos/MOVs/DL/BYD_colorofmoney.mov
Possibly the coolest music video ever.

[REINER]

Haha that was pretty cool.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

It is beyond cool.

[obese_breasts]

I am so happy to announce that the new record is done being mixed!!! The tentative release date is April 22nd! The Title..."DEATH FOR LIFE"

Here is a track listing in no particular order..
Forget Regret,
Forever And A Day,
I Give My Life To You,
Nosotros Cotrolamos Todo,
Don't Piss On My Neck And tell me It's Raining,
What Would Jesus Do?,
Binge/Purge,
This Curse Of Days,
Entombed We Collide,
Middle Fingers,
This Is Not The End.


Why does April have to be 3 months away?

[BuddyBigsby]

The plot thickens.....

I am now convinced that you are the one who stole With Honor's stuff, for the sole purpose of being able to use that line.

[BuddyBigsby]

Saturday
February 26, 2005 7SECONDS
Tickets on sale 1/26 at 10am!

Groovie Ghoulies hardcore punk rock $12 at the door.
Tickets available at Tickmaster.
Show starts at 7:30 and ends at 11:30.

!!!!!!!!!

[CONNER_NWHC]

Lucky!

[cbmartinez]

Why does April have to be 3 months away?

Another song with the word "piss" in the title. This CD is gonna' kick.

[cbmartinez]

Anyone like Wings Of Scarlet?

[REINER]

Can't wait for the CD.
I am now convinced that you are the one who stole With Honor's stuff, for the sole purpose of being able to use that line.MUHAHAHAHHAHA

[theramed toothpaste]

sorry for asking such a retarded question but, can someone please tell me some easy hardcore songs to play? or some bands that arent that hard to play altogether?

[capri sun junkie]

Anyone like Wings Of Scarlet?
Yes.

[REINER]

sorry for asking such a retarded question but, can someone please tell me some easy hardcore songs to play? or some bands that arent that hard to play altogether?Anything by Minor Threat.

[shane italian]

Holy ****. I love Set Your Goals. www.purevolume.com/setyourgoals

Posi band from San Fran. They sound like a mix between Lifetime, Fastbreak, and Stretch Arm Strong.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Holy crap. They rule. Rep++ after I spread some rep around.

[shane italian]

punkerx99 told me about them. I can't wait for them to come to OC.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

punkerx99 needs to post more.

[CONNER_NWHC]

www.purevolume.com/countthehours

Everyone needs to know about this band.

[chips88]

Ah Converge, will we ever fathom your greatness.

Impossible. They are God :smoke:

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

They sound pretty good. That's a bad recording though.

To noneed66

[shane italian]

:( Converge annoy me. I'm alone in the crowd!

[CONNER_NWHC]

They sound pretty good. That's a bad recording though.

To noneed66
Ya it is bad recording. There just kids all 17 i think.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

A lot of the stuff on You Fail Me isn't that great. There are some really cool parts though.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Shane, do you know who does backing vocals on 'Goonies Never Say Die' at about 1:17? I recognize that voice.

[cbmartinez]

Holy ****. I love Set Your Goals. www.purevolume.com/setyourgoals

Posi band from San Fran. They sound like a mix between Lifetime, Fastbreak, and Stretch Arm Strong.

I like. Pretty accurate description too.

[obese_breasts]

:( Converge annoy me. I'm alone in the crowd!

I'm with you too shane, I just never liked em much.

[REINER]

They took me a while to like, but I love them now. I mainly disliked J's vocals, but I've come to realize they're amazing.

Seriously, The Saddest Day. Best song ever, made me like them.

[cbmartinez]

The minute Jane Doe went throught my ears, I was in love. I can't stress enough how much that album blowed me away and still does. People tend to love them or hate them.

[obese_breasts]

Whoa, Set Your Goals are really ****ing good shane

[CONNER_NWHC]

They took me a while to like, but I love them now. I mainly disliked J's vocals, but I've come to realize they're amazing.

Seriously, The Saddest Day. Best song ever, made me like them.
Jane Doe is one amazing cd.

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

I really like The Saddest Day and Concubine. The only songs by them I've really heard all the way through. I'll pick up Jane Doe next time I'm in a cd store.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Why do you have a You Fail Me avatar if you haven't heard anything from that record?

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

Why do you have a You Fail Me avatar if you haven't heard anything from that record?
Huh?