Hardcore Community Thread

[DFelon204409]

I enthuse all of you to go to the CD Reviews forum (id=62) and vote for your top 3 CDs of the year. Right now there's a whole lot of Wilco and random crap. I'd like to see you all represent.

[PlasticGangster]

The singing sounds pretty good imo

[DFelon204409]

http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=1944097&Mytoken=20041226152858
Wow the intro for the first is amazing coming from a pop punk band

That is the worst HORSE the band ripoff I've ever heard.

CHIODOS PUT DOWN THE SYNTH AND LEAVE IT TO REAL MEN.

[shane italian]

Who cares if it's a horse the band rip off, they suck balls anyways.

[BigWig]

Hey who's the guy who sings in Shelter, Youth Of Today and Better Than A Thousand? I love those three bands and I don't remember

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Hey who's the guy who sings in Shelter, Youth Of Today and Better Than A Thousand? I love those three bands and I don't remember
Ray Cappo

[PlasticGangster]

That is the worst HORSE the band ripoff I've ever heard.

CHIODOS PUT DOWN THE SYNTH AND LEAVE IT TO REAL MEN.
:lol: :lol:

[BigWig]

Ray Cappo

Oh yeah, thanks. Much appreciated

[REINER]

When did the thread get de-throned?

[CONNER_NWHC]

Last night, for the new community thread. Sucks eh?
On a side note i got The terror cd "LOTL" and its great i dont know why i havnt liked them earlier.

[BridgeToSolace]

http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=1944097&Mytoken=20041226152858
Wow the intro for the first is amazing coming from a pop punk band

http://www.purevolume.com/nohollywoodending

Better synth band. (I think anyway)

Listen to "Bloods Not Enough"

Not their best song, but oh well.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Blacklisted and Love is Red didn't play, probably because there wasn't enough time because the show didn't end until midnight.

Forever I burn-They're ok, they played a pretty good set.

The Autumn Offering-They were a lot better live then on recording, they played a pretty good set.

Full Blown Chaos-They ruled. I had a lot of fun during their set, especially during the huge circle pit. Everyone seemed to be into them, and it was probably my favorite set of the night.

Candiria-I don't like this band at all, it was my first time listening to them and I didn't bother watching.

God Forbid-I never liked the songs I have, but they were really good. They got everybody into it and i'll check them out again.

Agnostic Front-They actually played a lot of old stuff, they played 2 or 3 songs from the new cd though. I had fun during their set, but the mic for the vocals were all messed up.

Hatebreed-I was only able to watch about 5 of their songs. I supposedly fell down, but I think I was out of it because when people were picking me up I had no idea where I was. I felt really weird, so me and my friends got out of there and just waited at the back watching them.

Overall, it was a good show, and I only saw 1 fight, but nothing really happened.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Sounds fun.

[REINER]

That sucks those 2 bands didn't play, I would have wanted to see them the most. Sounds like fun though besides the passing out thing or whatever.http://www.purevolume.com/nohollywoodending

Better synth band. (I think anyway)

Listen to "Bloods Not Enough"

Not their best song, but oh well.This band is horrible, they're whats wrong with hardcore.

[victimofreality]

Has anyone ever heard of the band The Procedure? My cousin got me their CD for Christmas and it is really good.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Ya there pretty good, Sk8skaNJ knows alot about them there from NJ.

[REINER]

****ing love that band.

[victimofreality]

****ing love that band.
This is the first hardcore CD I actually own and I've been listening to it all day.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Nice comeback kid avatar.

[cbmartinez]

Same here. It was my first hardcore CD. Well, except for Refused. Nonetheless, it kicks.

What's with the iPod punx?

[CONNER_NWHC]

Shane started a club, join if you have a ipod.

[victimofreality]

Nice comeback kid avatar.
I've been trying to find the musci video for Lorelei but it is nowhere.

[cbmartinez]

Shane started a club, join if you have a ipod.

Lame.

[BuddyBigsby]

Why was Meg demodded?

[Jessizzle]

Meg For Re Mod!

[victimofreality]

Why was Meg demodded?
She edited the post of someone in the pit, so all the pit people complained.

[Jessizzle]

it went Crazzzzzy

[BuddyBigsby]

Ah, it was because of the kids in The Pit.

Figures.

[cbmartinez]

Zakath, Moniker and the bunch.

I actually really like "I Let Go" from the new 18 Visions Album. :(

[shane italian]

xFilesx - Excrutiation
Terror - One With The Underdogs
Some Kind Of Hate - Undisputed

That's what I scored today at Tower Records.

[cbmartinez]

Nice. I need to check out xfilesx.

[capri sun junkie]

Zakath, Moniker and the bunch.

I actually really like "I Let Go" from the new 18 Visions Album. :(

Teehee.

I got Lifeless today, that even sounds different than anything else.

[cbmartinez]

I really like the early stuff. Until The Inks Runs Out is great, Lifeless is fun, The Best Of is decent, and Vanity is tolerable. But Until The Ink Runs Out, Vanity, and Obsession all sound completely different from each other, it's strange.

[capri sun junkie]

I still need to get Best Of and Until The Ink Runs Out. I really dig the songs I've heard off of those two the most out of any 18V stuff.

[BuddyBigsby]

xFilesx - Excrutiation
Terror - One With The Underdogs
Some Kind Of Hate - Undisputed

That's what I scored today at Tower Records.

Dude... which one were you at? I picked up some CDs from the one in Brea today. I was in Irvine before that but there's not a Towere there, is there?

[BuddyBigsby]

And I hear that 18V are playing old stuff now. It might just be because it was kind of a special show, but they just played this small OC venue called Chain Reaction where typically smaller bands play, but apparently half their set was old songs.

[capri sun junkie]

And I hear that 18V are playing old stuff now. It might just be because it was kind of a special show, but they just played this small OC venue called Chain Reaction where typically smaller bands play, but apparently half their set was old songs.

I hear about Chain Reaction all the time. That'd be good if they do, because I might go see them in Minneapolis.

[BuddyBigsby]

Chain Reaction's a cool venue because its so small. The place is like a ****ing sauna though. They have a REALLY weak air conditioner and when you go to a sold out show there (which is only like 200 kids, if that) you have no room to mosh and you start dripping sweat even if you're just standing around.

[shane italian]

Facedown Fest 2005

It's going to be in Corona, CA at the Showcase Theatre (yes, be jealous of my being 20-30 minutes away) in March. Bands I'm looking forward to: Bloody Sunday, Jesus Wept, NIV, Seventh Star, In Due Time...

[BuddyBigsby]

I'm 10-15 minutes away.

Bitch.

[capri sun junkie]

I'm about 27 hours and ten minutes away... So says mapquest.

[BuddyBigsby]

Well The Locust is coming to this venue in like a month. *nudge, nudge*

[capri sun junkie]

:eek: x10000000

<3

[DFelon204409]

Apparently HORSE the Band, Circle Takes the Square, and some other more derivative bands are touring the West Coast. There should be an update on a website soon.

[cbmartinez]

I really like The Chariot... :(

[cbmartinez]

In the thread "Good Emo Bands" in Alt. and Indie:

SILVERSTEIN
PAINT THE TOWN (local minneapolis band) they are on purevolume.com, look them up

atreyu?
from autumn to ashes?
matchbook romance
motion city soundtrack
a bunch that i dont know of

refl

[capri sun junkie]

Bwahahahahaha :upset:

[NewKindofArmy03]

I just went CD shopping. I couldn't think of what I wanted but I got some good ones.
Sick of it All-Blood, Sweat, and No Tears
Envy-Dead Sinking Story
Figure Four-Suffering the Loss
Victims/From Ashes Rise split

[cbmartinez]

Where did you find Envy?!?!

[NewKindofArmy03]

Relapse Records on South St. in Philly. They had Dead Sinking Stories and the split with Iscariote.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I got a book today on the history of Hip-Hop and a Miles Davis biography. If I'm not hardcore I don't know what is.

[capri sun junkie]

I got a book today on the history of Hip-Hop and a Miles Davis biography. If I'm not hardcore I don't know what is.

Do you have a copy of Straight Outta Compton for every room in your house, and every car that you drive?

[BuddyBigsby]

Relapse Records on South St. in Philly. They had Dead Sinking Stories and the split with Iscariote.

Whoa, is that owned by the label, Relapse?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yeah. Here's the store's website: http://www.relapseretail.com/

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Do you have a copy of Straight Outta Compton for every room in your house, and every car that you drive?

What kind of a silly question is that?



Of course I do.

[BuddyBigsby]

*hands out 10 million scene points to 40 and capri for liking rap*

[shane italian]

Hahahaha, James Heart's real name is so funny and Mexican.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

*hands out 10 million scene points to 40 and capri for liking rap*

"It's good to like all kinds of music."



But seriously, I'm a wigger at heart. I've listened to rap 4 evr.

[BridgeToSolace]

"A18 has recently announced their seperation and had the following to say:

"It's over Jonny. No Last show. No nothing. Some of us cared too much. Some of us couldn't care less. Thanks to those who were there for us. We love you.""

Balls :upset:

[shane italian]

Yeah, I was pretty bummed about that. One of the few OC bands that made the OC Scene look good.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Lets go, back, to square one again, it seems like we've all lost touch, with what we all once loved so much!

I'm really bored. And this is a cool song. With Honor's first EP is better than I thought.

[shane italian]

I was listening to that today while driving through a parking garage. That song reminds me of Texas, we used to listen to it everyday after school.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I've completely changed my friend's music tastes. He used to be into Black Sabbath and Nirvana and Marilyn Manson, now I've got him into Bane, Another Breath, Blacklisted, Bury Your Dead, Every Time I Die and Carry On. I rule.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Good job there i got this chick likeing alot more hardcore.

[CONNER_NWHC]

http://www.attheshow.at/home.htm this is a pretty cool site for show pics.

[victimofreality]

Reiner, I listened to the band The Breakout that you said something about. I like it a lot.

[BridgeToSolace]

Reiner, I listened to the band The Breakout that you said something about. I like it a lot.

Chris suggested them to me a while ago too.

Have you been able to find anything by them on Soulseek or something?

All I've been able to hear is the stuff on purevolume.

[REINER]

Yeah your not really going to find anything on Soulseek by them, but I have their EP and Demo on it, so just get it off me.

Or buy it off interpunk if your not to jewish, http://www.interpunk.com/item.cfm?Item=59031&
otherwise just use the tracklisting to find the right songs off of me.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I forget who it was who recommended these guys. They're really good.

http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/68/

[REINER]

If their name is a Dag Nasty reference, they're automatically good.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I followed blindly, a part of the lot, I never gave a second thought!

It most likely is a Dag Nasty reference.

[BuddyBigsby]

Speaking of which, has anyone heard the Terror cover of "Can I Say"?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Speaking of which, has anyone heard the Terror cover of "Can I Say"?
No, but I must hear it.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

"Circles" > "Can I Say"

[REINER]

No, but I must hear it now. (NOW!!!)

[NewKindofArmy03]

Wow, I just read that there is going to be a Bane/Comeback Kid/With Honor tour soon. That show would be amazing.

[shane italian]

Oh Shnap! I Cannot Miss This!

[BuddyBigsby]

No, but I must hear it.

Well I have it on Soulseek. Go into the "MP3s" folder.

[BuddyBigsby]

Wow, I just read that there is going to be a Bane/Comeback Kid/With Honor tour soon. That show would be amazing.

Good, maybe With Honor will finally come back out here. It's been a while.

[CONNER_NWHC]

www.purevolume.com/countthehours

NW hardcore

[capri sun junkie]

Buddy should go to Ernie's last show at the Chain Reaction on January 16.

[cbmartinez]

I orgasmed/**** myself when I heard this:

"Geoff Rickley of Thursday, Daryl Palumbo of Glassjaw/Head Automatica, Alex Saavedra of Eyeball Records, Eric Cooper of Kiss It Goodbye, and Chee of The Number Twelve Looks Like You are starting an untitled project together. The sound is said to be a mix of screaming and grind and Geoff, Daryl and Cooper are all singing and playing guitar."

Seriously, I still can't get over this.

[capri sun junkie]

Haha wow. It will be interesting without a doubt.

[cbmartinez]

What do you guys think of Dead To Fall? Every time I've gone to the store, their CD has popped out at me like it's my destiny to buy it. I'm listening to them on purevolume now and they're decent, really metal though. I don't know if it would be an album I would listen to alot. Also have you guys heard of either Beyond Fall or The Minor Times?

[shane italian]

Dead To Fall are good in my book if you like metallic riifs and breakdowns.
The Minor Times just own.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, I scribbled them down as a good band when I was listening to them over the summer, but I can't remember what song I heard.

[REINER]

I like the song Tu Se Morta a lot, have listened to the rest of the CD a whole lot.

[victimofreality]

Yeah your not really going to find anything on Soulseek by them, but I have their EP and Demo on it, so just get it off me.

Or buy it off interpunk if your not to jewish, http://www.interpunk.com/item.cfm?Item=59031&
otherwise just use the tracklisting to find the right songs off of me.
I have one song by them that isn't on their EP though. Too bad I never see you on soulseek/have really slow downloading speed.

[NewKindofArmy03]

What do you guys think of Dead To Fall? Every time I've gone to the store, their CD has popped out at me like it's my destiny to buy it. I'm listening to them on purevolume now and they're decent, really metal though. I don't know if it would be an album I would listen to alot. Also have you guys heard of either Beyond Fall or The Minor Times?
Dead to Fall are very generic, but I still like what i've heard. The Minor Times are from the suburbs here, they're pretty good.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Well I have it on Soulseek. Go into the "MP3s" folder.
THIS COVER OWNS.

[cbmartinez]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283738

My review for Saves The Day's Can't Slow Down for all you closet STD fans.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283738

My review for Saves The Day's Can't Slow Down for all you closet STD fans.
<3

I haven't heard the whole album though. I really like what I've heard from it. Deciding is probably my favourite Saves The Day song.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

How did the American Nightmare demo get re-released with that name?

[BuddyBigsby]

What do you guys think of Dead To Fall? Every time I've gone to the store, their CD has popped out at me like it's my destiny to buy it. I'm listening to them on purevolume now and they're decent, really metal though. I don't know if it would be an album I would listen to alot. Also have you guys heard of either Beyond Fall or The Minor Times?

Dead to Fall are terrible. I really like three songs off of the first album, and that's it. I have both their albums, and even if you like it at first, it wears off really fast. Don't bother with that crap. It's just a nonstop chugfest, but since that isn't generic enough for them, they have to throw in lots of horrible attempts at Swedish riffage. The only good thing I can say about them is that the cover art for their new album pwns.

[BuddyBigsby]

Buddy should go to Ernie's last show at the Chain Reaction on January 16.

I probably will. My buddies' cousin's band, A Fall Farewell, is playing and he makes me go to pretty much every one of their shows. Therefore, I will most likely be there.

[shane italian]

Bumpage.

[shane italian]

And on a real note: Lifetime f'ucking own.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

And on a real note: Lifetime f'ucking own.
Yes.

[REINER]

Amen nigga.

[the grand chalupa]

jesus i haven't listened to that band in foever
i think it'd be a good idea to now

[xFourStringGrenadex]

A Fall Farewell is pretty awesome dude.

[shane italian]

I went to Greene Records earlier, and I must say I have not seen such a good selection:
Reach The Sky
In My Eyes
Carry On
Count Me Out
Good Clean Fun
Song Of Zarathustra
Lifetime
...you get the idea.

[ShatteredIllusion]

"Geoff Rickley of Thursday, Daryl Palumbo of Glassjaw/Head Automatica, Alex Saavedra of Eyeball Records, Eric Cooper of Kiss It Goodbye, and Chee of The Number Twelve Looks Like You are starting an untitled project together. The sound is said to be a mix of screaming and grind and Geoff, Daryl and Cooper are all singing and playing guitar."

anyone have more info on this?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I went to Greene Records earlier, and I must say I have not seen such a good selection:
Reach The Sky
In My Eyes
Carry On
Count Me Out
Good Clean Fun
Song Of Zarathustra
Lifetime
...you get the idea.
That rules. All the hardcore I can find in record stores is like...Converge, Terror, and Throwdown. And Bury Your Dead.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I saw the new BYD in K-mart.

[shane italian]

I saw the new BYD in K-mart.Sweet, did you buy it?

[NewKindofArmy03]

No, it was a few months ago. I'm going to Barnes and Nobles tomorrow because I have a gift certificate. I'm going to get 2-3 CDs with some of it. I need to think of popular hardcore/metalcore/metal bands though because that's all they have. Is the new BYD worth it? I might pick it up if they have it.

[shane italian]

Yes, I listen to it like everyday. Generic, but suprisingly awesome. Check and see if they have new Terror, as well.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I've listened to the new Terror cd a lot, I just never bought it. I'll probably end up getting a Shadows Fall cd and I want to get a Martyr AD cd, I doubt they'll have it though. I'll have to see what label they're on.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

They'll most likely have Terror.

They had a Martyr AD cd at HMV. I don't think I've ever heard them though.

[NewKindofArmy03]

They're a basic metalcore band with a ton of breakdowns, I like them a lot though.

I've been listening to the new Full Blown Chaos nonstop lately, so good.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I just listened to Martyr AD. They're alright I guess. Not something I would listen to.

Is it the cool thing to have a woman in your band now? And not particularly attractive ones either.

EDIT: I'd put it in the girl from Bleeding Through's butt though.

[BuddyBigsby]

A Fall Farewell is pretty awesome dude.

Wait until their new album comes out... it's really really good. They finished it a while ago but they haven't put it out yet because they've been label shopping. There's a lot of clean singing on it, but it's ok because the singing doesn't suck anymore, he got way better. They also redid "Seven Seas" and "Upon the Plains of Daybreak", and they sound much better too.

[xFourStringGrenadex]

Are you serious?? Oh dude I can't wait. I love "Upon the Plains At Daybreak". Thanks for the tip man. Yeah the singing on Upon the Plains sounded a bit...lame.

[chips88]

I just listened to Martyr AD. They're alright I guess. Not something I would listen to.

Is it the cool thing to have a woman in your band now? And not particularly attractive ones either.

EDIT: I'd put it in the girl from Bleeding Through's butt though.

123! what about the girl from ctts or walls of jericho? or white stripes!!!

[BuddyBigsby]

Are you serious?? Oh dude I can't wait. I love "Upon the Plains At Daybreak". Thanks for the tip man. Yeah the singing on Upon the Plains sounded a bit...lame.

Yeah, he cleaned up in that department. There's this one song on there where it gets really quiet, softly strummed guitars, and has this really great singy part a la BTBAM's "Mordecai"... definitely one of the highlights from the album, and he handles it great.

[BuddyBigsby]

123! what about the girl from ctts or walls of jericho? or white stripes!!!

All pretty much look like dudes.

[cbmartinez]

Candace from Walls Of Jericho is ugly as hell.

http://www.purevolume.com/wallsofjericho/photos/329118

Yeah, I rest my case.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

The girl from Most Precious Blood aint too fine either.

http://www.trustkill.com/press/glossies/MostPreciousBlood_glossy_cm.jpg

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Candace from Walls Of Jericho is ugly as hell.

http://www.purevolume.com/wallsofjericho/photos/329118

Yeah, I rest my case.
http://www.trustkill.com/press/glossies/WallsOfJericho_glossy_new2.jpg

I rest your case too.

...

[cbmartinez]

She looks alright in that picture. I mean, if we were stranded on an island or something, maybe I might...

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

A force that surrounds us - Penetrates us
Binds us all together these days belong to us

Bane + Starwars?

[capri sun junkie]

123! what about the girl from ctts or walls of jericho? or white stripes!!!

:lol:

Ewww.

[shane italian]

I would bang Candace from WoJ for sure.

[capri sun junkie]

I probably will. My buddies' cousin's band, A Fall Farewell, is playing and he makes me go to pretty much every one of their shows. Therefore, I will most likely be there.

Good deal. It should owncakes.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Daaayum last night was awesome.

Make Move - Good show, liked how they threw some raps in there.

Our Turn - AWESOME, got a t-shirt.

Lights Out - AWESOME

The Warriors - I've never really seen the big deal with the Warriors, but they put on an amazing show. 1000 times heavier live than on cd. For their last song they covered 'Bulls On Parade" and I almost pooped my pants.

Iron Age - Never heard them before but they were really good.

R'N'R - Pretty good, kinda boring.

Righteous Jams - Set of the night, sooo much energy and stagediving. They opened with "Invasion" going into "Scream And Shout" and ended with "Invasion" going into "Scream And Shout".

Mental - What more can I say? It's Mental, they were awesome.

Stiggy's War - Didn't get to stay for them, but I heard they were good.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Daaayum last night was awesome.

Make Move - Good show, liked how they threw some raps in there.

Our Turn - AWESOME, got a t-shirt.

Lights Out - AWESOME

The Warriors - I've never really seen the big deal with the Warriors, but they put on an amazing show. 1000 times heavier live than on cd. For their last song they covered 'Bulls On Parade" and I almost pooped my pants.

Iron Age - Never heard them before but they were really good.

R'N'R - Pretty good, kinda boring.

Righteous Jams - Set of the night, sooo much energy and stagediving. They opened with "Invasion" going into "Scream And Shout" and ended with "Invasion" going into "Scream And Shout".

Mental - What more can I say? It's Mental, they were awesome.

Stiggy's War - Didn't get to stay for them, but I heard they were good.

That sounds like such a good show...

I got Get An Oxygen Tank and Yo! today. Get Your Oxygen Tank has some really cool songs on it, and the ones I didn't like too much before, I am liking a lot more now. I already had the Yo! 7", but the Supertouch cover and the live set on the CD are really good. And the artwork on these cds is great.

[capri sun junkie]

Daaayum last night was awesome.

Make Move - Good show, liked how they threw some raps in there.

Our Turn - AWESOME, got a t-shirt.

Lights Out - AWESOME

The Warriors - I've never really seen the big deal with the Warriors, but they put on an amazing show. 1000 times heavier live than on cd. For their last song they covered 'Bulls On Parade" and I almost pooped my pants.

Iron Age - Never heard them before but they were really good.

R'N'R - Pretty good, kinda boring.

Righteous Jams - Set of the night, sooo much energy and stagediving. They opened with "Invasion" going into "Scream And Shout" and ended with "Invasion" going into "Scream And Shout".

Mental - What more can I say? It's Mental, they were awesome.

Stiggy's War - Didn't get to stay for them, but I heard they were good.


That does sound really good. I had a good night last night too.

The John Hancocks - Local punk band. Not really my kind of stuff, it was their first show though, and they didn't mess up or anything, so I'll give them that.

Other local band I didn't know the name of - Totally blew. Really crappy clichemo. I waited outside for them to get over.

Seven Left Standing - The only metalcore band in the town that they're from. And to my knowledge, the only good band from there. They drove 50 miles to play, and I drove 90 miles to see them for a second time. They did an awesome cover on Memphis Will Be Laid To Waste to end their set. The crowd wasn't really feeling it for them though. www.purevolume.com/sevenleftstanding

If I Die - Christian metalcore from Fargo, North Dakota. Totally energetic, awesome set. They made good use of the very small playing space offered. After the set, they said they'd be playing somewhere in Minnesota with The Chariot New Year's eve. If I would have known this, I probably would have tried to go see that one instead of going to this one. www.purevolume.com/ifidie

[40 oz 2 freedom]

They were filming the RJ and Mental sets, so I don't know if they were making a video or anything.

[BridgeToSolace]

123! what about the girl from ctts or walls of jericho? or white stripes!!!

The chick from As Night Falls isn't bad. http://www.asnightfalls.com/images/promo1.jpg

And the girl from Figure Four isn't horrible either. http://www.solidstaterecords.com/artist_bio.php?id=202

[cbmartinez]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/cbmartinez24/Fro.jpg

Maximum cool

[cbmartinez]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/cbmartinez24/Chrisfro.jpg

Damn son.

[BridgeToSolace]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/cbmartinez24/Chrisfro.jpg

Damn son.

I'd hit it :smoke:

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I forgot 2 other bands that played last night. Set Your Goals and Lines of Judaism. Both were good. SYG was pretty poppy.

[BridgeToSolace]

I forgot 2 other bands that played last night. Set Your Goals and Lines of Judaism. Both were good. SYG was pretty poppy.

Are they like...a christian band, but jewish as opposed to christian?

Like Orphand Land or something.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I'm not sure, they didn't look jewish though. They were really good and had an old-school Boston sound.

[NewKindofArmy03]

From the Righteous Jams website:
We will be releasing a new cd on Anger Management Records from Belgium. The cd will contain a total of 11 songs - some new stuff, some demo stuff and some live radio stuff from WRES in Boston. The cd will be out around the time we go to Europe.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

What is their website?

[NewKindofArmy03]

www.righteousjams.com

[BuddyBigsby]

The chick from As Night Falls isn't bad. http://www.asnightfalls.com/images/promo1.jpg


She doesn't look nearly as good in real life.

[BridgeToSolace]

She doesn't look nearly as good in real life.

Ha, yeah, I looked up the other photos and she was a little ugly. But meh.

-

Anyone else into Selfmindead?

[chips88]

So, I read this book called American Hardcore at Barnes and Nobles today, but didn't buy it. It was so awesome though, I think I should. It talked about everyone, Bad Brains, Misfits, Black Flag, etc. and had all these pictures. Man, those shows were violent. Better than anything now I think.

[honkybrewster]

I've been thinking about getting Lexicon Devil.

[BuddyBigsby]

I've read some of that book. I've been wanting to pick it up for a while but every place I go is out of it. I did get some pretty good reads at Barnes and Noble the other day though. One is Solipsist by Henry Rolilns. It's intense. It's basically a bunch of journal-like entries he wrote down over the course of 3 years while living in various cities. All of the entries though are basically like reading thoughts, and the theme of the book is Solipsism, which is basically becoming obsessed with the self and isolating yourself, so a lot of the thoughts in there are just completely cynical, frantic, and at times homocidal. It's really difficult to explain, but it basically makes you feel good about hating people.

The other one caught my eye as I was looking for American Hardcore, actually. It's called Nothing Feels Good (after the Promise Ring album) and it's about the commercialization of "emo" and the culture behind it. It's a pretty interesting and realistic depiction of a lot of these self-proclaimed "emo" kids, the only thing I don't like about it is if you didn't know your stuff before reading the book, the author would reinforce the notions that Dashboard and Saves the Day and stuff like that is emo. He actually calls Weezer's Pinkerton an "emo cornerstone" and even refers to New Found Glory as emo. I mean the book starts off ok because he mentions Rites of Spring and some of the DC band, but the more he gets into the 90's, it really shows he didn't do his research. Although, the author is a writer for Spin, so it's really not that surprising. Aside from the genre crap though, it's a really cool book

Woah, that was way more than I thought I would say.

[SubtleDagger]

I went to a huge show down in Florida, big ol' hardcore edger fest. Only real popular or at least up-and-coming band was The Power And The Glory, who are on Deathwish. Funny thing was that no one watched them. I was one of the few who was interested.

[BuddyBigsby]

How were they? I keep hearing good things, but the one song I've heard is kinda boring. I'm not bored easily.l

[honkybrewster]

I've read some of that book. I've been wanting to pick it up for a while but every place I go is out of it. I did get some pretty good reads at Barnes and Noble the other day though. One is Solipsist by Henry Rolilns. It's intense. It's basically a bunch of journal-like entries he wrote down over the course of 3 years while living in various cities. All of the entries though are basically like reading thoughts, and the theme of the book is Solipsism, which is basically becoming obsessed with the self and isolating yourself, so a lot of the thoughts in there are just completely cynical, frantic, and at times homocidal. It's really difficult to explain, but it basically makes you feel good about hating people.

The other one caught my eye as I was looking for American Hardcore, actually. It's called Nothing Feels Good (after the Promise Ring album) and it's about the commercialization of "emo" and the culture behind it. It's a pretty interesting and realistic depiction of a lot of these self-proclaimed "emo" kids, the only thing I don't like about it is if you didn't know your stuff before reading the book, the author would reinforce the notions that Dashboard and Saves the Day and stuff like that is emo. He actually calls Weezer's Pinkerton an "emo cornerstone" and even refers to New Found Glory as emo. I mean the book starts off ok because he mentions Rites of Spring and some of the DC band, but the more he gets into the 90's, it really shows he didn't do his research. Although, the author is a writer for Spin, so it's really not that surprising. Aside from the genre crap though, it's a really cool book

Woah, that was way more than I thought I would say.
I actually read it, and I don't usually bother with long posts. Were you talking about Lexicon Devil at first or American Hardcore? I think I might actually check out Solipsist.

[BuddyBigsby]

American Hardcore. I've never heard of Lexicon Devil. What's it about?

[honkybrewster]

American Hardcore. I've never heard of Lexicon Devil. What's it about?
It's about Darby Crash, and the Germs and all that.

[SubtleDagger]

How were they? I keep hearing good things, but the one song I've heard is kinda boring. I'm not bored easily.l
Sound a lot like Converge but they're noisier. I liked, but their record can get kind of tiresome on certain tracks. "Call Me Armageddon" (the title track) is pretty good, though.

They really need to break away from Converge, bad.

EDIT: There are some tracks at www.maximumpunkrock.com.

[Jar-Of-Mice]

Wow i started reading this thread a LONG time ago, im new to the forums, and i read 40 pages, skipped 220, and found out that alot of this happened while i was reading. Dang, i wish i found these forums earlier. Anyways, what do you consider dillinger again? and what can i listen to that is like them. Im trying to expand my horizons, i listen to everything, but im new to grindcore, and the like. help?

JOM

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

www.righteousjams.com
YES! I didn't know they had a site! I really want an RJ shirt.

[cbmartinez]

Wow i started reading this thread a LONG time ago, im new to the forums, and i read 40 pages, skipped 220, and found out that alot of this happened while i was reading. Dang, i wish i found these forums earlier. Anyways, what do you consider dillinger again? and what can i listen to that is like them. Im trying to expand my horizons, i listen to everything, but im new to grindcore, and the like. help?

JOM

Dillinger are considired Tech Metal or "Math Metal." Technically, they don't have much grind in them, but their music and the way they play there instruments is very technical, hence the term Tech Metal. Try Between The Buried And Me (http://www.purevolume.com/betweentheburiedandme) and Ion Dissonance.

[cbmartinez]

I've read some of that book. I've been wanting to pick it up for a while but every place I go is out of it. I did get some pretty good reads at Barnes and Noble the other day though. One is Solipsist by Henry Rolilns. It's intense. It's basically a bunch of journal-like entries he wrote down over the course of 3 years while living in various cities. All of the entries though are basically like reading thoughts, and the theme of the book is Solipsism, which is basically becoming obsessed with the self and isolating yourself, so a lot of the thoughts in there are just completely cynical, frantic, and at times homocidal. It's really difficult to explain, but it basically makes you feel good about hating people.

The other one caught my eye as I was looking for American Hardcore, actually. It's called Nothing Feels Good (after the Promise Ring album) and it's about the commercialization of "emo" and the culture behind it. It's a pretty interesting and realistic depiction of a lot of these self-proclaimed "emo" kids, the only thing I don't like about it is if you didn't know your stuff before reading the book, the author would reinforce the notions that Dashboard and Saves the Day and stuff like that is emo. He actually calls Weezer's Pinkerton an "emo cornerstone" and even refers to New Found Glory as emo. I mean the book starts off ok because he mentions Rites of Spring and some of the DC band, but the more he gets into the 90's, it really shows he didn't do his research. Although, the author is a writer for Spin, so it's really not that surprising. Aside from the genre crap though, it's a really cool book

Woah, that was way more than I thought I would say.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0922915717/qid=1104605319/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/104-3692026-9735941

Your talking about that book right?

[shane italian]

I went to a huge show down in Florida, big ol' hardcore edger fest. Only real popular or at least up-and-coming band was The Power And The Glory, who are on Deathwish. Funny thing was that no one watched them. I was one of the few who was interested.This Is For You Fest?

[CONNER_NWHC]

Anyone know when the next Comeback kid tour of north america is gunna be?

[REINER]

Probably once their new CD comes out.

[AARON27]

I'm seeing them Saturday night.

[NewKindofArmy03]

So, I read this book called American Hardcore at Barnes and Nobles today, but didn't buy it. It was so awesome though, I think I should. It talked about everyone, Bad Brains, Misfits, Black Flag, etc. and had all these pictures. Man, those shows were violent. Better than anything now I think.
Weird, I was coming into this thread to say I couldn't find it at Barnes and Nobles today. I saw it there before, but now that I have a bunch of gift cards I wanted to buy it and it was gone. The CD selection was the worst, couldn't find one thing. I ended up getting nothing except food. I just bought Weird NJ on the B&N website though, maybe I should've bought this. I still have $25 in gift cards though, next time I go i'll buy it.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

http://www.wers.org/radiobeat/

NOW!

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I'm still in awe from Righteous Jams. Throughout their set they had to use like 4 different mics because they kept breaking from Joey C's stage dives and what not.

[obese_breasts]

So yea, the DBS concert I was going to go to last night got cancelled do to them getting snowed out of Mammoth, I am so sad...I really wanted to see them.

[SactoUnited]

So yea, the DBS concert I was going to go to last night got cancelled do to them getting snowed out of Mammoth, I am so sad...I really wanted to see them.
U talkin about the TSOL concert? I almost went but I was leavin the day before

[obese_breasts]

yea I am, it got cancelled due to the snow.

[SactoUnited]

**** that sux it wasnt even snowing that hard when I drove back down

[SactoUnited]

i cant sayd'amn?

[Feel The Darkness]

i cant sayd'amn?
type "first letter of wordrest of word" <--without space after color

or, just use the option labelled "", that way you say words that arent allowed and it looks normal, so get it right next time ye lil [COLOR=White]****...haha, just ****ing with ye :lol:

[obese_breasts]

or you could use the size tag and set it to 2 and it doesn't look any different

[Feel The Darkness]

or you could use the size tag and set it to 2 and it doesn't look any different
yea, that too...i just tend to go with the color one more...not sure why...but both work... :thumb:

[cbmartinez]

So yea, the DBS concert I was going to go to last night got cancelled do to them getting snowed out of Mammoth, I am so sad...I really wanted to see them.

That sucks hardcore. Converge cancelled their show with Thursday because of "impending weather conditions." Now that's lame.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

yea, that too...i just tend to go with the color one more...not sure why...but both work... :thumb:
White shows up on the color schemes that have black font. So size is the best.

[Jar-Of-Mice]

Dillinger are considired Tech Metal or "Math Metal." Technically, they don't have much grind in them, but their music and the way they play there instruments is very technical, hence the term Tech Metal. Try Between The Buried And Me and Ion Dissonance.

I didn't think thay were grind at all, ha. i asked for some bands like dillinger, and some grindcore bands that are worth listening to. Oh, and i looked up those 2 bands. sounds good from what i've heard, I'll look into it more. Thanks.

JOM

[BuddyBigsby]

That sucks hardcore. Converge cancelled their show with Thursday because of "impending weather conditions." Now that's lame.

Yeah but Turmoil replaced them, and that rules. And yes, I was talking about the American Hardcore in the link.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah that book is alright. I wish it got into more new school stuff. My friend said he didn't like Turmoil, but he isn't exactly a fan of true hardcore.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Does that book go into bands like 7 seconds and GB or does it just talk about Minor Threat, Black Flag, Bad Brains, etc.

[REINER]

January 5 @ Bloomfield Ave Cafe
montclair - NJ - 6pm - $10

Champion (Bridge 9 Records)

100 Demons

Outbreak (Deathwish Inc.)

Down To Nothing

Cannonball

The Breakout

As Good As Dead (featuring Joey Southside)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
January 24 @ Bloomfield Ave Cafe
montclair - NJ - 6pm - $10

WALLS OF JERICHO (Trustkill Records)

Bury Your Dead (Victory Records)

Full Blown Chaos (Stillborn Records)

Premonitions Of War (Victory Records)

Bill Killman

[cbmartinez]

/me wishes I could drive/lived remotely close to montclair

[REINER]

Get a ride. They're both weekday shows, so I need to convince my mom to let me go..and give me gas money.

[NewKindofArmy03]

January 16th at First Unitarian Church in Philly.

DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR(BRIDGE NINE'S FINEST, BOSTON'S HARDEST)
BLACKLISTED(PHILLY'S HOMETOWN HEROES)
REPERCUSSION( BUFFETS, C-LO AND NOW WITH 20% MORE KOREAN!!! RECORD RELEASE)
SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS(DEAD END KIDS, SOUTH JERSEY OLD SCHOOL-LAST SHOW EVER)
ROUNDHOUSE NJ(SOUTH JERSEY YOUNGBULLS, HAWD)


I can't wait for this show, every band there is good.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

January 5 @ Bloomfield Ave Cafe
montclair - NJ - 6pm - $10

Champion (Bridge 9 Records)

100 Demons

Outbreak (Deathwish Inc.)

Down To Nothing

Cannonball

The Breakout

As Good As Dead (featuring Joey Southside)

Damn, that's incredible.

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah that book is alright. I wish it got into more new school stuff. My friend said he didn't like Turmoil, but he isn't exactly a fan of true hardcore.

They're metalcore. It's kind of a big deal because Turmoil played completely by surprise and this was their unofficial reunion show, the big one everyone is excited for not being until April. They broke up a couple years ago, but had a pretty good following. One or two of the guys formed Lickgoldensky after Turmoil broke up.

[SubtleDagger]

This Is For You Fest?
Yep. /l8

I hope my band plays South Beach one day, it's a great club.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Bump Badump Badump Bump.

Forward To Death is playing tonight, but I don't think I can go.

[REINER]

Do It!!!!!!!!!

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I wish I could but...

1. First day back at school tomorrow
2. I don't know anyone who's even heard of them, so no ride.
3. My mom wants to go to the movies.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Shiiiiiit, the guy from Another Breath just posted on the SA Hardcore board saying they were playing tonight as well. :( :( :(

[REINER]

Haha aww man that sucks. If I lived by you, I'd drive you.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

NEW MENTAL STUFF!!

www.lockinout.com

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Half of their set was new stuff when I saw 'em.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I didn't recognize all of their songs when I saw them, but then I didn't have any of their albums. I only recognized like 2 songs. (Respect and Mental)

[NewKindofArmy03]

Shiiiiiit, the guy from Another Breath just posted on the SA Hardcore board saying they were playing tonight as well. :( :( :(
That sucks. I heard at This is For You fest, they played a Kid Dynamite cover and a Gorilla Biscuits cover. I would go off if I heard those, even though a GB cover is common.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Pssh... when I saw them, they played a GB cover and a Carry On cover. And the Carry On cover was Waiting On Forever. Now that ruled.

[cbmartinez]

They're metalcore. It's kind of a big deal because Turmoil played completely by surprise and this was their unofficial reunion show, the big one everyone is excited for not being until April. They broke up a couple years ago, but had a pretty good following. One or two of the guys formed Lickgoldensky after Turmoil broke up.

Whoa, cool, Lickgoldensky.

[NewKindofArmy03]

OH SNAP! I just read the 100 demons, Outbreak, Champion show is coming here the 16th. That would rule if it's at the same place as the DB4D/Blacklisted show that night because that would be the best day ever.

[BuddyBigsby]

I might book a show with Psyopus and hopefully Radiation 4 and Horse the Band. This rules.

[capri sun junkie]

Speaking of HTB... New album in '05, and a tour with CTTS and The Number 12 Looks Like You.

[REINER]

http://www.cflhardcore.com/Page/video.htm

Has a Casey Jones / Kids Like Us show up, the video of it. The kids from FLA suck at dancing.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Wow that site has some good stuff.

[capri sun junkie]

The kids from FLA suck at dancing.
:lol:

South Dakota kids that dance are better than them...

[CONNER_NWHC]

They really are very bad.

[shane italian]

http://www.nauticaltech.com/~josh/quatro/sinkwithcali_teaser.mp4

Teaser for Sink With Cali Fest DVD, and you guys can see how we do it in SoCal. Pit shots included. Hahah.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Rad. But The northwest throws it down the best for sure. :P

[DFelon204409]

Speaking of HTB... New album in '05, and a tour with CTTS and The Number 12 Looks Like You.

Hey I already said that! Do you know the dates though?

[Max-Mohawk]

Wouldn't Eighteen Visions be considered metalcore?

[cbmartinez]

Yeah. They changed their style with Obsession though. There more Heavy Rock with some hardcore influence now.

[cbmartinez]

Calico System and Across Five Aprils are playing at Bloomfield Ave. I'd really like to go.

[capri sun junkie]

Hey I already said that! Do you know the dates though?

Hum, guess I missed it. No dates are posted that I know of.

[NewKindofArmy03]

February 10th@TBA
Philadelphia, PA
HOODS
Merauder
Agents of Man
Blacklisted

I hope I go to this.

[REINER]

That better come by here.

[obese_breasts]

I can't get over the awesomeness of the new Comeback Kid song

[CONNER_NWHC]

True dat thug can't wait for the tour.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I can't get over the awesomeness of the new Comeback Kid song
You're not the only one.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Seeing Go It Alone two times this weekend in pumped!

[NewKindofArmy03]

That better come by here.
Tuesday, February 08, 2005
New Jersey, TBA

That's all it says so far.

[REINER]

That's a good sign, shame it's a Tuesday.

[BridgeToSolace]

Arizona's North Side Kings will be shooting a video on January 22nd & 23rd in Arizona for the song Bad Guy. Here is a statement from Danny NSK regarding the video.

"Be in North Side King's Video! emo kids, metal kids, and hc kids needed!
Saturday and Sunday January 22nd and 23rd we're filming our video for
"the bad guy" during the day at the big fish pub. We need a big group of emo kids to at least partially fill the club for one scene (even if you wanna just dress up emo, that'll work too.) Then we need all of the hardcore, punk, thug, and metal kids we can get to fully fill the club for the rest of the video. I'll post the time to be there later this week. We're doing a version that will be on the DVD and another version that will be for the music channels. So, come on down and have a good ****ing time!

You don't even know the half of it - this is going to be insane. Basically the whole video is a horror movie/fight with an Emo show being taken over by a crew of assholes!

Fake blood and gore effects, super hot chicks, drinking, breakdancing, Chicken Suit disco ****, a big fake horse, prop beer bottles and fake baseball bats, limbs flying through the air, chainsaws, fighting - it's like a Troma movie but a music video. The Emo band (pretty much played by Where Eagles Dare ha ha) is on stage when the mayhem starts. Crying emo kids get thugged. So -we need people dressed like Emo kids more than anything cause we have a million thugs.

If interested in having a part email dannynsk@aol.com and we'll get it in. I definatly need a head count."

That sounds like a sweet video.

[DFelon204409]

Those punks don't know what emo is. I will find off any thugs like I have the strength of a bear that has the strength of two bears.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Anyone know a site for hardcore guitar tabs?

[shane italian]

Woah, Caliban kick ***. I totally overlooked them in my friend's car.

[REINER]

Anyone know a site for hardcore guitar tabs? http://members.fortunecity.com/youthoftoday/hctabs/

They have a lot of tabs. If it's a simple song and I'm not lazy I might be able to help you figure it out.

[CONNER_NWHC]

How long have you been playing guitar for man?

[REINER]

Umm, 2 and a half years near the end of this month.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Sweet, me and some friends are starting up a hardcore band you guys got any tips for us?

[REINER]

Uhh.

Have decent equipment, especial if when you start playing shows
Know how to find a good tone
Practice a good amount (Several times a week)
Be able to play atleast for 20 minutes before playing shows
Practice earlier in the day before a show
Each member should work on songs even outside of practice
Try not to be too generic
Be proficiant at your instruments/vocals
Music theory always helps

[CONNER_NWHC]

Ya we have some decent equipment and some guys that know music theory. But wrighting song will probly be the hardest part, i mean the lyrics.

[victimofreality]

Ya we have some decent equipment and some guys that know music theory. But wrighting song will probly be the hardest part, i mean the lyrics.
Yeah, I hate writing lyrics. That's why I quit my band. We were all dunces and realized that our lyrics sucked.

[REINER]

Oh man, I don't know if I can go to Champion tonight.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Nice, modded. Sticky this thread!

[BuddyBigsby]

Connecticut hardcore band Death Threat is reportedly calling it quits, after roughly eight years together. An official announcement hasn't yet been made, but the group will reportedly play their final show on January 29th at the Knights Of Columbus in Wallingford, CT, alongside Madball, 100 Demons, Death Before Dishonor, and others.

:upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset:

[REINER]

Lame.

[DFelon204409]

This torrent sit has some rare stuff from a lot of cool hardcore/emo bands. This post is mostly for shane and buddy.

http://www.bi-torrent.com/379.htm

[shane italian]

My friend just told me about Death Threat. :upset:, Now Here Fast! is such a sick cd, too.

[cbmartinez]

Sk8Ska is a mod, hot. Rep me bitch.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Nice, modded. Sticky this thread!
Do it.

[BuddyBigsby]

I just found out that The Great Redneck Hope are playing in my area tonight. I think I may go.

[cbmartinez]

Definitely go for it.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I heard about Death Threat breaking up, that sucks. I wasn't that big of a fun of them though.

The new Death by Stereo is gonna be out in April, and it has a ballad on it. Supposedly, it's the heaviest thing they've done yet.

[BridgeToSolace]

This torrent sit has some rare stuff from a lot of cool hardcore/emo bands. This post is mostly for shane and buddy.

http://www.bi-torrent.com/379.htm

New Bleeding Kansas. :eek:

[Danish]

You all should check out some bands from my area:

Two Knives (metalcore)
A Day and A Deathwish (hardcore)
Keep It Up (hardcore)

Does anyone here know Rise Over Run?

[capri sun junkie]

Preacher Gone To Texas, anyone? They sound interesting. After a little bit, it sounds like pretty good hardcore, then all of a sudden it gets all CTTS-ey.

Barry, You're Dead (http://www.sinisterlabel.com/mp3s/pgtt-barry_youre_dead.mp3)

[BuddyBigsby]

The fact that they actually named a song after that very dead joke about BYD's name makes me not want to listen tot hem.

[shane italian]

This torrent sit has some rare stuff from a lot of cool hardcore/emo bands. This post is mostly for shane and buddy.

http://www.bi-torrent.com/379.htmSweeeeet. I see some WoJ. Live BNO. And live Throwdown at Showcase.....which isn't in Orange County by the way. Haha.

[Silvermedalmafia]

You all should check out some bands from my area:

Two Knives (metalcore)
A Day and A Deathwish (hardcore)
Keep It Up (hardcore)

Does anyone here know Rise Over Run?
Sounds like a mathcore band. Got a website?

[cbmartinez]

Preacher Gone To Texas, anyone? They sound interesting. After a little bit, it sounds like pretty good hardcore, then all of a sudden it gets all CTTS-ey.

Barry, You're Dead (http://www.sinisterlabel.com/mp3s/pgtt-barry_youre_dead.mp3)

Jon listens to them. I'm gonna check them out. And that statement about the new DBS makes me kinda uneasy.

[capri sun junkie]

The fact that they actually named a song after that very dead joke about BYD's name makes me not want to listen tot hem.

I haven't heard that one. You know it?

[BuddyBigsby]

Barry, You're Dead? Yes. About a gibigizillion times.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I guess Reiner ended up seeing Champion tonight.

[capri sun junkie]

Barry, You're Dead? Yes. About a gibigizillion times.

I haven't...... :upset:

[obese_breasts]

I guess Reiner ended up seeing Champion tonight.

Lucky bastard

[BuddyBigsby]

I didn't end up seeing the great redneck hope. oh well, next time.