Hardcore Community Thread

[CONNER_NWHC]

Arnt they releasing another full lenght in early 2005?

[REINER]

Yup :)

[CDR_Cool]

does anybody here like Thirty3? they're pretty cool.

Sk8SkaNJ, where abouts in NJ do you live?

[REINER]

Never heard of them.

Basking Ridge in Somerset County.

[MattTracy]

ok, well, i havent read the whole thing, and i wont either, i just read the first page, but i saw what you said about "grindcore", and i think there is actually grind and grindcore, and there is a difference between them... im not sure if im right, thats why i want someone to follow up on this, but i believe grind is bands such as Locust, but grindcore is just like grind but with breakdowns... and i know we have grindcore bands here, because it will be grind vocals, guitar, and drums, and next thing you know they bust into a breakdown... so will someone follow up on that?

[REINER]

hile the term Grindcore has often been used somewhat interchangeably with death metal, the two started out as very different, albeit similarly extreme, forms of music, despite becoming more alike over the years. When it first appeared in the mid-'80s, grindcore in its purest form consisted of short, apocalyptic blasts of noise played on standard heavy metal instrumentation (distorted guitar, bass, drums). Although grindcore wasn't just randomly improvised, it certainly didn't follow conventional structure, either; while riffs could sometimes be picked out, pure grindcore never featured verses, choruses, or even melodies. Grindcore vocals sounded torturous, ranging from high-pitched shrieks to low, throat-shredding growls and barks; although the lyrics were usually quite verbose, they were very rarely intelligible. Grindcore's jaw-dropping aggression was so over the top that pointing to its roots in thrash metal and hardcore punk hardly gives an idea of what it actually sounds like. Indisputably, the band that invented grindcore was Napalm Death, whose 1987 debut album Scum is also perhaps the most representative example of the style. In Napalm Death's hands, grindcore was actually rather arty, a sonic metaphor for the bleakness, violence, and decay of modern society; the group's lyrics were additionally packed with angry social commentary. More extreme in the lyrical department was Carcass, the only other band to really epitomize the original grindcore sound; their gruesome, gory rants were literally taken from anatomical textbooks for maximum shock (and gonzo comedy) factor. However, grindcore's original form was inherently limiting, and its intensity could easily turn into self-parody; on Napalm Death's second album, they had already begun to experiment with industrial textures, a fusion that would prove popular not only with bands who loved the jackhammer rhythms a drum machine could provide, but also with slower, moodier bands like Godflesh (itself a Napalm Death offshoot). Grindcore's blistering intensity was assimilated not only into underground heavy metal, but also into avant-garde and experimental music circles; Japanese noise bands like the Boredoms and Merzbow found it inspiring, and jazz musician John Zorn formed the grindcore-inspired group Painkiller (which featured former Napalm Death drummer Mick Harris). Although pure grindcore was a distinctly British phenomenon, the early albums by the Florida band Death -- which ratcheted up the aggression and morbidity of prime Slayer -- had a raw, crude, assaultive quality that made them extremely similar. Apart from adopting the low, demonic growl of the grindcore vocal style almost wholesale, American death metal bands with relatively limited technical ability who played at fast tempos often resembled grindcore outfits with song structures. In fact, by the '90s, Napalm Death's sound was virtually impossible to separate from either death metal or grindcore, and Carcass had become a full-fledged, even melodic, death metal band. One of the very few bands to stick with grindcore's original form was A.C. (aka Anal Cunt), which primarily employed it to a snottily humorous effect.

From http://www.allmusic.com/

[MattTracy]

ok, that was really long, i only read the first sentence, and yeah, i know what death metal isnt, and when i talk about the "grindcore" bands around here, i knew they werent death metal, but yea, i just want a simple im wrong or im right... lol, thanks

[honkybrewster]

Allmusic.com's description things blow. They have the Adolescents under "punk metal." The last time someone seriously described something as "punk metal" to me, they sounded stupid. Partly because they were talking about 311.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Yeah allmusic doesn't seem very reliable. It's good for some things though.

[shane italian]

Who things that "Magnolia" is the mosh song of the year?

[CONNER_NWHC]

Whos the n00b? :p

[40 oz 2 freedom]

So noneed, how was it?

[CONNER_NWHC]

It was pretty good i like most of it havnt listned to it all yet,but there a good band.

[BuddyBigsby]

Whos the n00b? :p

I don't know but I'm neg-repping him furiously

[capri sun junkie]

does anybody here like Thirty3? they're pretty cool.

From what I've heard, they are pretty good man.

[NewKindofArmy03]

It was pretty good i like most of it havnt listned to it all yet,but there a good band.
What band?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yup :)
Casey Jones? I thought that wouldn't be out until next fall or so.

[REINER]

I donno, all their site says is '05, for some reason I though it was the earlier half of the year. Ether way aslong as it comes out I'm a happy man.

Their tour dates are up.

CASEY JONES. KIDS LIKE US. SHOT POINT BLANK. X-MAS TOUR

Dec. 16 - Orange Park, FL @ Doctors Inlet Civic Center w/ Kids Like Us, Shot Point Blank, North 24, and more. INFO: Doors at 6:30. Show 7pm. $5.

Dec. 17 - Atlanta, GA @ Swayze's w/ Kids Like Us, Shot Point Blank, Instilled, and The Twilights of Idols.

Dec. 18 - Nashville, TN @ Rocket Town w/ Kids Like Us, Shot Point Blank, Love Is Red, The Twilights of Idols, and Reaction.

Dec. 19 - Louisville, KY @ Keswick Democractic Club w/ Kids Like Us, Shot Point Blank, and more.

Dec. 20 - Fredericksburg, VA @ Shooters w/ Kids Like Us, Shot Point Blank, Nervous Breakdown, 24 Hours To Live, Never The Less, Nick Fury, and In My Way.

Dec. 21 - Bound Brook, NJ @ Hamilton St. Cafe w/ Kids Like Us, Shot Point Blank, and more.

Dec. 22 - Richmond, VA @ Chopstix w/ Kids Like Us, Shot Point Blank, and Down To Nothing.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I saw them, not coming here.

But I just found out about a show here on Jan.16:
Death Before Dishonor
Repercussion (record release)
Dead and Buried (last philly show)
Sad State Of Affairs (last show ever)
Roundhouse NJ
one more?

[REINER]

Ooh interesting, where in the hell is Roundhouse?

The Shattered Realm...etc show got moved to Bloomfield.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Haha, Roundhouse NJ is a band. The show is in Philly.

[REINER]

Haha, I've never heard them. Ahh Philly to far...

[NewKindofArmy03]

I just checked them out, I like them. http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=3010320&Mytoken=20041201124756 I'm not sure where in NJ they're from.

[REINER]

I listened to one song, the recording quality isn't the best but they don't sound bad. I'm surprised I haven't heard about them or even seen them on the bill for a show.

[Zombie Apocalypse]

Haha, Roundhouse NJ is a band. The show is in Philly.

Bands who put their city in their name are sweet.

[REINER]

http://www.purevolume.com/marathonny

They have new songs up, so good. I can't wait for the CD to come out.

Listen even if you've never heard them before.

[MILF Hunter]

http://www.purevolume.com/marathonny

They have new songs up, so good. I can't wait for the CD to come out.

Listen even if you've never heard them before.

didnt work

[NewKindofArmy03]

I don't like the vocals, I think those songs are better then the other songs they had though.

[REINER]

The singer goes crazy at their shows, like I swear he must have been on xtacy or something.

How did it not work? It's purvolume, you click, let it load then it plays.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Bands who put their city in their name are sweet.
New Jersey isn't a city, buttface.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Maybe the town is Roundhouse?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Maybe the town is Roundhouse?
There is no Roundhouse New Jersey.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Hmmm....

Touche.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Hmmm....

Touche.
Yes. Bitch.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

http://www.purevolume.com/marathonny

They have new songs up, so good. I can't wait for the CD to come out.

Listen even if you've never heard them before.
I liked the older stuff better. I have had the other songs on my computer for a while but I never listened to them much. They're really good.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Yes. Bitch.

That's it. You're goin' down punk ***.

[shane italian]

New BYD owns. I feel it should be pointed out again.

[Zombie Apocalypse]

There is no Roundhouse New Jersey.
Haha same difference man.

OH **** DUDE

HATEBREED
TERROR
NO WARNING
FULL BLOWN CHAOS
LOVE IS RED
INSTILLED
THE CRIMESCENE

ON SATURDAY WOAHMGZ

[Silvermedalmafia]

Haha same difference man.

OH **** DUDE

HATEBREED
TERROR
NO WARNING
FULL BLOWN CHAOS
LOVE IS RED
INSTILLED
THE CRIMESCENE

ON SATURDAY WOAHMGZ
that would be one hXc show.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Haha same difference man.

OH **** DUDE

HATEBREED
TERROR
NO WARNING
FULL BLOWN CHAOS
LOVE IS RED
INSTILLED
THE CRIMESCENE

ON SATURDAY WOAHMGZ
OMGZ RAWK

[Silvermedalmafia]

http://www.purevolume.com/marathonny

They have new songs up, so good. I can't wait for the CD to come out.

Listen even if you've never heard them before.
those are some wicked songs. I too, can now not wait.

[Silvermedalmafia]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=manly_suicide

this guy is frigging hilarious.

[Zombie Apocalypse]

Ya know, I feel that not enough people appreciate The End. That's just a gosh darn shame

[40 oz 2 freedom]

SOIA, Terror, Hatebreed, Full Blown Chaos, and No Warning are playing here the 13th.

[Zombie Apocalypse]

SOIA, Terror, Hatebreed, Full Blown Chaos, and No Warning are playing here the 13th.
Lucky, you get SOIA.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Psh, I get these bands so I win:
hatebreed
agnostic front
candiria
god forbid
full blown chaos
with honor
love is red
blacklisted
the autumn offering
forever i burn

It's the day after Christmas, it's gonna rule.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Pfft.

December 30th:
Mental
Righteous Jams
The Warriors
R'N'R
Stiggy's War
Lights Out
Make Move
Our Turn
Set Your Goals
and 2 'specials guests'

[CONNER_NWHC]

Thats alot of bands for one show.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

It's a benefit show.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Pfft.

December 30th:
Mental
Righteous Jams
The Warriors
R'N'R
Stiggy's War
Lights Out
Make Move
Our Turn
Set Your Goals
and 2 'specials guests'
That's a really good show. I love the Set Your Goals song How About No, Scott, but the rest just sound like new found glory to me.

[dirge for november]

Good, this thread will probably do more good in here than R/M. Less morons and newbs.
your an idiot. just because people listen to metal music doesnt mean theyre moronic, and as for n00bs.......... you were new once too. so lay off it all.

[OI! to the World!]

i am going to see marathon jan. 10

[SubtleDagger]

ATTN: Shane

I just wanted to know why the hell you did what you did in CD Reviews.

[shane italian]

ATTN: Shane

I just wanted to know why the hell you did what you did in CD Reviews.No idea. It was pretty retarded now that I look back. All I have to say for myself is...JME ENCOURAGED ME!

[SubtleDagger]

Well, I'm afraid you probably won't be getting that account back. : |

[shane italian]

Well, I'm afraid you probably won't be getting that account back. : |Honestly, I deserve it. No hard feelings, I hope...

[Silvermedalmafia]

Then start one with a cool name, something with a crappy band, a number and a mixture of capitals and lower case letters.

[SubtleDagger]

Nah man, it was probably the funniest thing I've banned someone for yet.

Kookie however, was pretty annoying.

[BuddyBigsby]

your an idiot. just because people listen to metal music doesnt mean theyre moronic, and as for n00bs.......... you were new once too. so lay off it all.

Way to respond to a comment I made months upon months ago. I wasn't attacking metalheads anyway, jackass, I'm a 'metalhead' myself. If you've been on these forums for more than a week, you'd know there's a lot of idiots that just happen to float around in that forum. You appear to be one of them, actually.

[BuddyBigsby]

Oooh

January 5th: Mental, Internal Affairs, Righteous Jams, Lights Out!, and some other bands.

[shane italian]

Glasshouse?

25 Ta Life are playing with Bound In Blood (last show) and Donnybrook. Maybe I'll hit that up.

[BuddyBigsby]

I don't even really like any of the bands on that bill, I just feel like I have to go because its BIB's last show and I've never seen them. The Mental show is at Studio S in North Hollywood.

[cbmartinez]

No idea. It was pretty retarded now that I look back. All I have to say for myself is...JME ENCOURAGED ME!

Ooh, what happened?!

[40 oz 2 freedom]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/thomattack/mentalcrew.bmp

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/thomattack/mentalcrew.bmp
That is a damn nice flyer.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Hand drawn, not that photoshop bullshit.

But I didn't draw it, if that's what you were thinking.

[CONNER_NWHC]

fear before the march of flames tonight.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Hand drawn, not that photoshop bullshit.

But I didn't draw it, if that's what you were thinking.
Yeah, I didn't assume you did it. You don't rule that much.

Just kidding <3

[NewKindofArmy03]

FBTMOF are the worst band on that tour. I finally listened to Darkest Hour and I like the song I heard a lot.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I missed that tour because it was too foggy and my mom didn't want me driving into the city. :angry:

[capri sun junkie]

Weak. Fog is... Weak.

[PlasticGangster]

http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/268/
Good stuff, girl singer as well.

[BuddyBigsby]

Fog ruined hardcore

[pedro durruti]

Soooooo anyone have a Powerhouse album?

[Feel The Darkness]

hey beetchis, new Agnostic Front vid for their song "Peace" off their latest album, "Another Voice," go here http://dridrizz.free.fr/img/agnostic_front-peace-hell5ing-mb.mpg

it's wierd listenign to a AF song that has breakdowns...sounds good though

:chug:

[shane italian]

This Warriors song is really ****ing good. "Lightning Strikes". Everyone check it out.

[REINER]

The Bars are so good. They need to play NJ soon.

[Zombie Apocalypse]

Soooooo anyone have a Powerhouse album?
I have one on slsk.

[cbmartinez]

Pallas Athena (http://www.purevolume.com/pallasathena)

They're a cool hardcore/indie from around here. I suggest "Get Rid Of It Now" first, but listen all of them. "The Problem" is weird at first but it gets very good.

No Hollywood Ending (http://www.purevolume.com/nohollywoodending)

Cool metalcore/hardcore band with synths. Check out "Nice Arms" first.

[REINER]

They had a record release show last week.

[NewKindofArmy03]

hey beetchis, new Agnostic Front vid for their song "Peace" off their latest album, "Another Voice," go here http://dridrizz.free.fr/img/agnostic_front-peace-hell5ing-mb.mpg

it's wierd listenign to a AF song that has breakdowns...sounds good though

:chug:
I saw it on Headbangers Ball last weekend, it's different, but I liked it.

[NewKindofArmy03]

The Bars are so good. They need to play NJ soon.
They played here 2 times in a month. Both times I didn't go and I wouldn't have because they were playing with crappy bands and I only knew 2 songs at the time.

[cbmartinez]

Woo, I'm on a bandfinding streak.

Gray Lines of Perfection (http://www.purevolume.com/graylinesofperfection)

These guys are really good. Metalcore/Emocore. Check them out.

The Dead Season (http://www.purevolume.com/thedeadseason)

Another great one. Metalcore, sounds like early PTW. I really urge you guys to check them out.

.breath.eyes.memory. (http://www.purevolume.com/breatheyesmemory)

Cool emocore/metalcore/indie. Another good band.

Sakita Sarra (http://www.purevolume.com/sakitasarra)

Pretty good band. Possibly real emo/screamo. Fast forward to about 4:00 on the song "Like A Reluctant" to hear the vocals.

[pedro durruti]

I have one on slsk.
Zombie Apocalypse?

[CONNER_NWHC]

Well i lost the little respect i had for Fear before the march of flames last night, they where really bad and i wasnt exspecting much. On the other hand Darkest hour and between the burried and me were so good. they rocked my socks.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Aww yeah, Blacklisted got added to the Death Before Dishonor show here.

[REINER]

I'm missing the Shattered Realm/DBD/Blacklisted/NLTM show.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

That really sucks.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Has anyone herd any recordings from the new Comeback kid cd, it comes out feb.22 and is called Wake up the dead.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Liars, they said January a few weeks ago.

[NewKindofArmy03]

New Death Before Dishonor mp3- http://www.bridge9.com/bridgenine/sound/dbd-bornfrommisery.mp3

[BuddyBigsby]

Has anyone herd any recordings from the new Comeback kid cd, it comes out feb.22 and is called Wake up the dead.

Yeah, its all over Soulseek even though they haven't gone into the studio yet.

[REINER]

HAHHA.
http://www.purevolume.com/neverstopthefight
this band sounds more like Bane than Bane does themselves.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

HAHHA.
http://www.purevolume.com/neverstopthefight
this band sounds more like Bane than Bane does themselves.
Whoa. They do...

EDIT: They're kinda sucky though.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yeah, they sound like Bane a lot, but they aren't that good.

I've been listening to the new AF song nonstop now.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Yeah, its all over Soulseek even though they haven't gone into the studio yet.
Does it sound good?

[shane italian]

Does it sound good?Buddy was trying to be a ****-wad. I don't think they have started recording yet, but we can expect something great. I'll tell you first if I get any info on leaks.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Does it sound good?
:lol:

[CONNER_NWHC]

Shane have you seen Outbreak live?

[shane italian]

Nah, they played last week with Internal Affairs. It was on a weekday though :(

[CONNER_NWHC]

There playing here on wensday, I will go if im aloud.

[D0dg3r (NL)]

I haven't read the whole topic [it's way too big. :P], but I've been reorganizing my music lately [I haven't done too much yet], and I was wondering how you guys would 'label' the following bands:

36 Crazyfists
A Static Lullaby - I was thinking about Emo Hardcore [does that even exist ?],
Alexisonfire - I was thinking about Metalcore.
Funeral for a Friend - I was thinking about Post Hardcore.

I'll ask a couple of other bands next time, when I reorganized more stuff, if you guys can help me out.

[EDIT] I forgot about Hawthorne Heights... [EDIT]

[REINER]

Pallas Athena (http://www.purevolume.com/pallasathena)

They're a cool hardcore/indie from around here. I suggest "Get Rid Of It Now" first, but listen all of them. "The Problem" is weird at first but it gets very good.

No Hollywood Ending (http://www.purevolume.com/nohollywoodending)

Cool metalcore/hardcore band with synths. Check out "Nice Arms" first.Woo, I'm on a bandfinding streak.

Gray Lines of Perfection (http://www.purevolume.com/graylinesofperfection)

These guys are really good. Metalcore/Emocore. Check them out.

The Dead Season (http://www.purevolume.com/thedeadseason)

Another great one. Metalcore, sounds like early PTW. I really urge you guys to check them out.

.breath.eyes.memory. (http://www.purevolume.com/breatheyesmemory)

Cool emocore/metalcore/indie. Another good band.

Sakita Sarra (http://www.purevolume.com/sakitasarra)
AHhH!! Most of those bands suck. NHE has the worst crowd in the world, the people are effing retarded.

[D0dg3r (NL)]

Oh, and I forgot about A Wilhelm Scream... I was thinking about Melodic Hardcore... Am I right ?

[NewKindofArmy03]

AHhH!! Most of those bands suck. NHE has the worst crowd in the world, the people are effing retarded.
Word, I really hate that generic metalcore that has those soft slow parts in every song they do. They all have the worst fans too.

[CONNER_NWHC]

1) Be tough at all times.
2) Never cheer after a show, only clap.
3) Be open minded in a "punch people" kind of way
4) Only the good hardcore bands have names that are sentences with bad grammar. Boy Hits Car, Boy Sets Fire, Skycamefalling, Boy Sets Car-fire.
5) Ankles are tough so bring your socks down into your shoes so we can see them.
6) Tattoos are tough especially when they are on your calves. See Rule 5 on how to see said tattoo more clearly.
7) Wear your hoody in the mosh pit because sweating like a wild pig makes you look tough.
Don't admit you listen to heavy metal.
9) (Exception to rule Only admit you listen to heavy metal if you think it is ironic and you wear 80's cheese metal shirts.
10) Be a non-conformist, just like all your friends.
11) Practice hardcore dancing in front of your mirror and then try them out the next time Atreyu comes to town.
12) A hardcore band is only original if you call it something-core.
Example Screamcore, emocore, Screamocore, mathcore, or Medio-core.
13) Remember, it's fun to punch and kick kung fu style.
14) Keep it in the do-jo.
15) Real hardcore fans are called kids.
16) Complain how hardcore bands are playing with metal bands at all costs!
17) Have your own zine, website, production company or be in a band.
Claim you are friends with the singer from Shai Hulud.
18) Tell people you work in the music industry.
19) More Ankles people!
20) Embrace everybody in the scene except for those people who are not you.
21) Refer to bands as old school or new school then act tough again.
22) Pretend that you get Dillinger Escape Plan.
23) Shop at second hand stores and then go buy expensive shoes.
24) Beat people up and then go to bible study class.
25) Smoking and drinking and having sex before marriage is too trendy. Real hardcore tough guys abstain.
26) Whatever you do, don't let the singer on stage ever sing in the mic. Make sure you grab it from him and sing in it yourself, after all, you do a better job singing then him. It's a wonder they didn't put you on the album.
27) Start your own hardcore band.
28) Have your logo resemble some random 80's product for nostalgia.
29) Talk about the scene any chance you get. Say as many obscure hardcore bands from NJ as possible.
30) If you are shy start an emo band so you don't have to look at the audience.
31) People who know more bands than you are better than you.
32) Add the Letter X before and after important words. XhardcorekidX Xmosh****X
33) Never say "Did you hear the new Strung Out?" Unless you are attempting to be funny in which case stop it because hardcore kids are tough not funny.
34) It's merch not Merchandise.
35) Hardcore girls must wear head bands at all times.
36) Stretch your ears out to look more intimidating.
37) The bigger you stretch your ears out the more hardcore you are.
38) Your ear should be stretched out enough to accommodate a block of wood, a hubcap or a *****.
39) People in the front row are best used as a ladder/staircase to reach your goal... steal the mic away from the singer.
40) When people ask you if you like a band always say "I only like the old stuff" or "I haven't really gotten into the new stuff."
41) Buy all of that bands merch.
42) Wear your new merch at the next hardcore show.
43) Repeat steps 41 and 42
44) If you have to wear glasses make sure they are thick, black framed ones.
45.) Don't tell anybody but make sure you try on your new vintage clothes and stud belt before heading out to see Poison the well.
46) Never admit you don't like Hatebreed and go see them live 12 times a year.
47) Complain that they are playing with Slayer but don't admit you actually like Slayer.
48) Complain at all costs.
49) Tag team hardcore dancing is cool
50) Real hardcore kids are really struggling photographers.
51) You don't go to hardcore concerts, you go to hardcore shows. BIG difference.
52) Name your hardcore dance moves things like "The mother ****"
or "kick that guys *** move" or better yet... stay home and cry.
53) Protect your body from swinging limbs by sacrificing your two arms.
54) Scream about love.
55) All age venues are important so you are not tempted to drink.
56) Claim you know a guy who knows a guy whose best friend was standing next to the guy who got his *** kicked during Converge.
Bash the hardcore scene and then go see The Get Up Kids.
57) Anytime somebody mentions a band always say you know somebody in the band.
58) Wear your pins with honour! Shai Hulud, American Nightmare, Minor Threat and the purple heart of valour.
59) Velcro shoes are cool.
60) Don't admit that you have a crush on the singer from Walls of Jericho. If somebody asks, say you respect her as a musician only.
61) Your band name should contain one of the following words: Blood, Murder, Kill, Victim and butterfly.
62) Print your band name as if it was on a bad printing press.
Actual graphics are for posers.
63) Sleep on a portrait painted prettier then everyone.
64) 100 bands from around the world to play in your city. All of them are the world's best hardcore bands. Every label represented, every hardcore genre present. The venue is the best all-ages venue in the world. Tickets are $1.00. It is your job to go around saying the festival should be free.
65) Record producers must make sure to pump the mid because mid is tough.
66) Re-issue your demos after every album.
67) When the band starts playing everybody join hands and make a big circle so we can watch the big kids play.
68) Crying on stage makes you a professional.
69) Complain some more.
70) Album covers must be made at home on Photoshop by your good friend.
71) If you are from New York NEVER smile in a promo pic. In fact always try to cross your arms and look into the camera as if you are going to beat up whom ever is looking.
72) If you are from New Jersey NEVER smile in a promo pic either. In fact try to look like you just lost your girl friend to the hardcore band from New York.
73) Never admit that Emo is Country music lyrics mixed with pop rock riffs and marketed by 17 year olds trying to make their friend be the next Dashboard Confessional.
74) American Idol is your worst enemy. (But you voted for Ruben)
75) You can get away with glitter on your face as long as your stretched ear plugs are clear.
76) **** beer, Got breast milk?
77) Bandanas are cool.
78) Bandanas with big X on them are cooler.
79) Bandanas with big X on them were cool last week you poser.
80) Your best friend is a guy named XattackX from Jersey who you chat with on MSN everyday. He is coming to see you one day. Really.
81) Chunky breakdowns in your songs are original and you should continue to do them despite every other band doing them which is clearly a rip off of your band.
82) Judge other bands and always compare them to the socio-cultural effects of the band Integrity.
83) Look up Socio-cultural in the dictionary and then get offended.
84) Green Day is the real reason you are still alive.
85) Describe your group of friends as "the scene" and then watch bootlegs of last weeks
86) Obey the laws of the hardcore scene or forever be banished from the circle.
87) When somebody asks you what is hardcore respond with "I am hardcore" then punch somebody in the face for looking at you wrong.
88) Keep punching
89) Kick a little too
90) Punch
91) Add a threat about their mother for good measure.
92) Pretend you are won the fight then pickup your dismembered left arm.
93) You are wearing the same thing as the 40-year old gas pump attendant but for some strange mystical reason you are cooler than he is.
94) Tell everybody that Trustkill Records are too trendy.
95) Did you stop acting tough? I saw you hug that teddy bear.
96) Pierce you **** and tattoo your body.
97) Straight bangs means straight-edge
98) Being vegan means you can't swallow sperm.
99) When in doubt Mock everything
100) Take everything personally.
101) Start a "gang"
102) Assume this list is about you

[REINER]

I didn't read all of that, but it's funny.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Yeah i didnt read all of it either, someone sent it to me.

[Silvermedalmafia]

51) You don't go to hardcore concerts, you go to hardcore shows. BIG difference

that reminded me of reiner and newkindofarmy, the sceney bastards. And the hoodie one too.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Yeah there all SO true.

[NewKindofArmy03]

51) You don't go to hardcore concerts, you go to hardcore shows. BIG difference

that reminded me of reiner and newkindofarmy, the sceney bastards. And the hoodie one too.
Hahaha. I'm not scene at all though.

[REINER]

The only scene thing I do is wear a hoodie alot, which I did before I even started listening to hardcore. I might get a carabeaner to hold my car keys.

The biggest scene trends are:
Camo shorts
hoodies
carabeaners for keys

[NewKindofArmy03]

Good news, Bars are releasing a 5 song EP in March.

[REINER]

Yes!

[capri sun junkie]

Hooded sweatshirts are uncomfortable as phuck. Zip ups aren't so bad though.

[cbmartinez]

AHhH!! Most of those bands suck. NHE has the worst crowd in the world, the people are effing retarded.

:(

I heard that about NHE. But those other bands were good, especially The Dead Season.

[CONNER_NWHC]

The only scene thing I do is wear a hoodie alot, which I did before I even started listening to hardcore. I might get a carabeaner to hold my car keys.

The biggest scene trends are:
Camo shorts
hoodies
carabeaners for keys
I wear i hoddie all the time pretty much.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Same here, I hate big winter jackets. I wear them when I go sledding though.

[REINER]

I started wearing my hoodie in like the middle of September. I'll probably wear it till May-ish. Then I breakout the shorts. I think I'm going to get a Casey Jones hoodie when they come around.

I wear a jacket when I go snowboarding.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I hope Blacklisted has them on the 26th.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Im getting a outbreak hoddie on wensday.

[NewKindofArmy03]

What's the difference between an EP and an MCD? Bars is releasing an MCD.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

MCDs are...longer...like around 8 tracks, EPs are around 3-6

[BuddyBigsby]

I haven't read the whole topic [it's way too big. :P], but I've been reorganizing my music lately [I haven't done too much yet], and I was wondering how you guys would 'label' the following bands:

36 Crazyfists
A Static Lullaby - I was thinking about Emo Hardcore [does that even exist ?],
Alexisonfire - I was thinking about Metalcore.
Funeral for a Friend - I was thinking about Post Hardcore.

I'll ask a couple of other bands next time, when I reorganized more stuff, if you guys can help me out.

[EDIT] I forgot about Hawthorne Heights... [EDIT]

36CF - Nu-metal making a cheap attempt at playing poppy pseudo-emocore
Alexisonfire - Melodic pop-punk
ASL, Funeral For a Friend, and Hawthorne Heights - Crap

[REINER]

To Sum It Up:

- a "comprehensive retrospective" cd including original demo with Damien Moyal singing, Chad's first recording with the band, live songs, and outtakes. release date Jan or Feb of 2005

- Hearts Once Nourished remastered re-issue, including their 2 EP's/splits and possibly some other tracks pending labels' permission, all on one disc.
release date TBA, but sooner than expected.

- DVD release date TBA.

- The Warmth of Red Blood (new band) has narrowed down vocal search to a few people, and they're written 3 songs.
expect an album sometime this decade.

- Zombie Apocalypse to release 5-songs on a split with Send More Paramedics

http://www.hulud.com/

[BuddyBigsby]

I wish I could sing for them and then be the guy that ruined Shai Hulud.

[REINER]

Hahahah.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I hate tickmaster, it was my first time getting tickets from there and they have a 4.75 conveinence charge, and a 4.75 processing charge.

[shane italian]

Same here, I hate big winter jackets. I wear them when I go sledding though.My friend moshes in a coat with furr lining.

[BuddyBigsby]

I hate tickmaster, it was my first time getting tickets from there and they have a 4.75 conveinence charge, and a 4.75 processing charge.

Wah wah.

I had a 60% service charge for The Hope Conspiracy.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Overall, mine is 66.6 with a line over the 6 % extra.

[REINER]

That is one of the reasons I've stoped going to punk shows, freaking surcharges and crap. And they never have tickets at the door. Luckily you don't need tickets to often around here.

[Silvermedalmafia]

Wah wah.

I had a 60% service charge for The Hope Conspiracy.
That sucks ballls. Anyone else gonna go to the Rise Against Vancouver date?

[NewKindofArmy03]

That is one of the reasons I've stoped going to punk shows, freaking surcharges and crap. And they never have tickets at the door. Luckily you don't need tickets to often around here.
I got them for Stillborn fest, because I'm guessing it will sell out sometime.

[REINER]

Yeah, I had to get them for Hellfest. Do you go to shows alot at the Troc?

[NewKindofArmy03]

I've been to 2 shows there.

[REINER]

Is that place any good? My friend goes there sometimes.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Everybody hates it now. I don't like it that much, I hate when there's a divider that has you 5 feet from the stage. They have no re-entry too, and I hate shows with that. I guess since it's not a venue with small bands, they don't want hundreds of people standing on the sidewalk outside.

[REINER]

Yeah, that sucks I hate when venues have barriers. Another reason why I stopped going to punk shows.

[NewKindofArmy03]

They have bigger people that play there though, and so if it's a punk band it's someone like Anti-flag or Strung out, who have a bigger fan base.

[NewKindofArmy03]

And another reason people don't like it is because they started having really bad shows, like Lil Kim.

[REINER]

Haha that's lame, but then again the equivilent of that place here has the same shows.

[NewKindofArmy03]

We have this place called the first unitarian church that rules. No barrier, re-entry, not involved with clear channel or ticketmaster at all, and they have most of the good shows.

[Silvermedalmafia]

And another reason people don't like it is because they started having really bad shows, like Lil Kim.
thats great. But in a funny way, not a good way.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yeah, I though it was funny too. Tickets were 40 bucks, and the I paid no more then 15 when I went there.

[shane italian]

I wish I could sing for them and then be the guy that ruined Shai Hulud.And be the guy who made Shai Hulud rule for the new jacks.

[Silvermedalmafia]

HOLY CRAP.

a)Comeback kid are from Manitoba, which I never knew and
b)i might be related to Andrew, their guitarist.

[REINER]

Get us Free/Early copies of their CD.

[shane italian]

HOLY CRAP.

a)Comeback kid are from Manitoba, which I never knew and
b)i might be related to Andrew, their guitarist.Everybody say hi to the about to be new jack.

[Silvermedalmafia]

HI JACK (I really have no idea what you are talking about). But yeah, I'm thinking im gonna contact them.

[shane italian]

Was Andrew in Figure Four too?

[Silvermedalmafia]

http://www.purevolume.com/comebackkid

Yes, it says in the topish part of the description.

[Feel The Darkness]

Was Andrew in Figure Four too?
i saw Figure Four earlier this year...pretty good band :thumb:

[bLlnk l-eighty-2]

hey guyz wutz up? i waz just wonderin wut iz blink 182? all i no is they rawk!
-=/\NarChy=-

[shane italian]

Most definately hardcore...they invented it, duh!

[bLlnk l-eighty-2]

i thought so. metal core is gay. never heard it but if blink aint in it then it suckz lolz
-=/\NarChy=-

[shane italian]

.
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[bLlnk l-eighty-2]

pssssh wutever. u prolly listen to green day dont u. lol poser
-=/\NarChy=-

[MILF Hunter]

What genre are Casey Jones? (HxC, Metalcore etc..)
What are some other bands like them, recommend songs aswell please
Where can I find lyrics for them


Thanks

[Sep]

Can someone give me a better explanation of hardcore please? I mean 'some hardcore bands are straight edge, some have breakdowns' doesn't really tell me a lot, no offence. I mean how can you hear whether a song is hardcore/metalcore/metal/grind/etc?

[cbmartinez]

Refer to page 1, but here's a quick definition...

Hardcore= Faster, harder punk, often with screamed vocals (Give Up The Ghost, Scraps And Heart Attacks (http://www.purevolume.com/scrapsandheartattacks), The Procedure (http://www.purevolume.com/theprocedure), Comeback Kid (http://www.purevolume.com/comebackkid))

Metalcore= Hardcore fused with metal. A lot of bands are starting to lean towards metal and it is hard to here the hardcore in them. (Walls Of Jericho (http://www.purevolume.com/wallsofjericho), early Poison The Well, early Avenged Sevenfold)

Grindcore= Eh, I'd rather not take this one because I'm not sure of which bands are true grind but, I believe bands like Napalm Death, Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Cattle Decapitation are considered "true" grind. Then you have the newer wave of grind which is a bit hard to classify. Bands like The Locust, Daughters and The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravangza are not true grind, but definitely have some grind in them. Grind is getting pretty varied also. You can go from the hardcore grind sounds The Locust to the almost Death Metal growls of The Red Chord.

Discerning Metal from Metalcore= As I said, metalcore is a fusion of metal and hardcore. But most of the mainstream/fashioncore metalcore bands of today (Atreyu, Bleeding Through, Eighteen Visions) are starting to lose the hardcore in them. When listening to Bleeding Through or Norma Jean, it's hard to pick out the hardcore, essentially making them a metal band. I think Buddy puts it best when he does his metalcore reviews, labeling them "Metalcore/Melodic Metal." Though it might sound strange to call Atreyu Metal (especially to metal fans), Metal is the genre they are closest to. Many extreme metal fans shun this because, in my opinion, metal has become a duel of which bands are the darkest, fastest and heaviest, leaving no room for Atreyu. So metalcore has become a little storage place for bands that fall somewhere between hardcore and metal, even though most of them are in reality "metal" bands. In Walls Of Jericho's music, you can hear both metal and hardcore, making them a true metalcore band. Compare Distance Makes The Hear Grow Fonder Poison The Well with You Come Before You Poison The Well. You Come Before You is truly a metal album, while Distance Makes... is pretty much true metalcore. But the point is, melodic metal bands that are "not hard enough" to be placed in the metal genre are being thrown into metalcore. Just as the definition of screamo has morphed, the definition of metalcore is also.

[BridgeToSolace]

What are some other bands like them, recommend songs aswell please

In My Eyes, Black My Heart, Nothing Gold Can Stay, Kids Like Us, the Contender, The Warriors, Where Fear And Weapons Meet.

Just get whatever you can, really.

[cbmartinez]

http://www.purevolume.com/caseyjones

Hahaha, I just listened to that and I was like "What the **** is this? This is hardcore?"

God, Comeback Kid is good.

[cbmartinez]

I found a couple more cool bands

The Binary Code (http://www.purevolume.com/thebinarycode)
Cool Tech Metal band, sounds like BTBAM/Ion Dissonance.

Derringer (http://www.purevolume.com/derringer)
Cool hardcore band.

The Binding (http://www.purevolume.com/thebinding)
Mediocre grind band.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

http://www.purevolume.com/caseyjones

Hahaha, I just listened to that and I was like "What the **** is this? This is hardcore?"

God, Comeback Kid is good.
Haha, different Casey Jones.

[REINER]

What genre are Casey Jones? (HxC, Metalcore etc..)
What are some other bands like them, recommend songs aswell please
Where can I find lyrics for them


Thanks
They are a hardcore band.
Kids Like Us, Traitor, Black Cross
They have some lyrics on their hxcmp3 site. Just try and listen, usually you can figure it out.
http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/1532/

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

They are a hardcore band.
Kids Like Us, Traitor, Black Cross
They have some lyrics on their hxcmp3 site. Just try and listen, usually you can figure it out.
http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/1532/
Black Cross?? They don't really sound like Casey Jones...good band though.

[REINER]

Yeah I know, I was just kind of struggling to find more bands similar. The first two I listed he would probably like though.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

A few pages back we were talking about Comeback Kid's new album...they actually have gone into the studio.

From www.comeback-kid.com

10.16.04
This is what we have been up to lately. So we're in the studio right now recording our second full length, which we hope to have our in Febuary of 2005. The whole expirence so far has been unreal. We'r recording at The Blasting Roomin beautiful Fort Collins, Colorado with Bill Stevenson and Jason Livermore. Things are coming along amazingly.

[REINER]

So I guess the album is on the internet. Time to go a pirating.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

How do these things get leaked?

[NewKindofArmy03]

I doubt it was leaked yet, but if anyone finds it, tell me.

[AIRIC]

Casey Jones lyrics make them sound like asses, but i'm in love with them anyway.

[PlasticGangster]

Casey Jones lyrics make them sound like asses, but i'm in love with them anyway.
When I saw them live they said they weren't trying to force straight edge on anybody and their lyrics are a joke.

[PlasticGangster]

I doubt it was leaked yet, but if anyone finds it, tell me.
I checked on mIRC and SoulSeek on Thursday night, still nothing.

[CONNER_NWHC]

When I saw them live they said they weren't trying to force straight edge on anybody and their lyrics are a joke.
I wonder if Casey Jones will ever come to canada?

[PlasticGangster]

I wonder if Casey Jones will ever come to canada?
Me and my friend showered them with emails and try convincing the local venue to give them an email or call?

[The Industry 1024]

casey jones is pretty sweet, they sound alot like Holden Caulfield, if anyone's into them.

[SickOnTheBusYouCunt]

the industry?

in a band with evan are ya?

[The Industry 1024]

the industry?

in a band with evan are ya?

what the sauce are you babbling about? my name is a Bled reference

[SickOnTheBusYouCunt]

haha, you're from ct, another poster here is from ct, in a band named the industry

[The Industry 1024]

whoah ho hoah! yeah, thats cool. who

[shane italian]

the ContenderThis guy rules.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Me and my friend showered them with emails and try convincing the local venue to give them an email or call?
I emailed them they said they will probly come this summer.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Hardcore from Vancouver, you can download there whole demo.

http://www.kclange.com/instride/

[The Industry 1024]

theyre pretty good, but my favorite local hardcore would have to be anything out of CT. our hardcore owns, and you all know it. we're rockin bands like The Risk Taken (whos drummer I go to school with), A Thousand Falling Skies, Hatebreed, With Honor, Among the Fallen, Call to Arms, and For All It's Worth, to name a few

[BridgeToSolace]

I've got "The Wilting" by A Thousand Falling Skies.. It's awesome.

[PlasticGangster]

Werd

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Props on mentioning the Contender, Bleed.

[REINER]

Lit dissed Remembering Never and Straight Edge about some dumb bull****.

[tornpictures]

Haha, I read that somewhere.

Who are Lit, anyway?

[BridgeToSolace]

Haha, I read that somewhere.

Who are Lit, anyway?

Mediocre pop-punk/pop-rock band.

Unless there's some other Lit that I don't know about.

[IFlogMyMolly16]

I like(d) Lit.

[BridgeToSolace]

They had some decent stuff, but overall they are pretty meh.

[IFlogMyMolly16]

Yeah. I never had their CDs or anything. I just liked them enough to see them at a festival show and such.

[tornpictures]

Dude, some pop-punk rules.

Lifetime.
Jawbreaker.
Samiam.
North Lincoln.
Get-Up Kids' first record.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Dude, some pop-punk rules.

Lifetime.
Jawbreaker.
Samiam.
North Lincoln.
Get-Up Kids' first record.
No one said pop-punk didn't rule.

Yes, Lifetime is awesome.

[capri sun junkie]

Yes, Lifetime is awesome.

123

[BuddyBigsby]

our hardcore owns, and you all know it. we're rockin bands like The Risk Taken

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:cool:

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I need more fordirelifesake!

Also, I forgot how good Ensign were!

[CONNER_NWHC]

Yeah im really getting back into Ensign. Also i just bought Gorrila Biscuits Start today.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Lit dissed Remembering Never and Straight Edge about some dumb bull****.
And Remembering Never messed up Lit's tour van, or supposedly their fans did it.

[REINER]

What makes me mad is that Lit refered Edge to Jesus and people who don't have sex. They have no idea what they're talking about. t

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yeah, they said something along the lines of "straight edge concerts are where nobody drinks, does drugs, eat meat, and everybody loves jesus." not word for word, but something like that.

[CONNER_NWHC]

I hate the kids that come all drunk and stoned to my local venue. why not just come and enjoy the music?

[BridgeToSolace]

I need more fordirelifesake!

Also, I forgot how good Ensign were!

My AIM is IbleedtheskyI

I have both their albums. (or two of them, at least)

I'd be happy to send either/both to you.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I don't have AIM...thanks though.

[BridgeToSolace]

I don't have AIM...thanks though.

Gmail? MSN? Soulseek?

[cbmartinez]

What a whore. :p

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Gmail? MSN? Soulseek?
What's your soulseek name?

[BridgeToSolace]

What's your soulseek name?

Bleed The Sky

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I can't browse your files :(

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

The new Agnostic Front rules.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Word, i've been playing that song out, like i said before.



PEACE IS NOT AN OPTION!

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Word, i've been playing that song out, like i said before.



PEACE IS NOT AN OPTION!
Yeah...it's so sudden a change from their usual style...they seem to have stayed the same up to Dead Yuppies, and then suddenly bam they sound like Hatebreed. I wonder what made them change...

[NewKindofArmy03]

I'm seeing them with Hatebreed the day after xmas, I can't wait for that show.

[REINER]

All this talks makes me want to check out this new album, I was never a fan of their older stuff. List a good song or two to download.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I've kind of gone off Hatebreed now. When Jamey Jasta does vocals in Agnostic Front's 'Peace' it's cool though.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

All this talks makes me want to check out this new album, I was never a fan of their older stuff. List a good song or two to download.
'Peace' and 'Still Here'. Get em from me.

[NewKindofArmy03]

http://dridrizz.free.fr/img/agnostic_front-peace-hell5ing-mb.mpg
Here's the video for Peace.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

http://dridrizz.free.fr/img/agnosti...hell5ing-mb.mpg
Here's the video for Peace.
You didn't copy the link right.

[NewKindofArmy03]

There, I edited it.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Yes, yes you did.

[REINER]

Hmm, it was a good song, but kind of generic. The singers voice could use a little work to accomidate this new style. Still worth the listen. I'll probably download it.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I think his voice sounds good with it. It sounds really cool when Jamey Jasta comes in though.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yeah, that's the one thing about their new stuff that seperates them from the other bands like them.

[BuddyBigsby]

haha.

http://www.victoryhardcore.com/holidaycard/holidaycard.mov

[capri sun junkie]

Hahaha, that is rad rawk.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Hahahahaa that's great.

[CONNER_NWHC]

What do people think of these bands?
Set Your Goals
Lifelong Tragedy
7 Generations
Another Breath

[tornpictures]

haha.

http://www.victoryhardcore.com/holidaycard/holidaycard.mov

Apart from the facts that it's completely irresponsible, he looks like he's working out and the music sounds like Slipknot, a bro mosh Santa is still a really bad idea.

[Scabies]

i thought you were permanently banned? bugger.

[AIRIC]

A Wilhelm Scream owns my pen0r

[BridgeToSolace]

^ Truth.

I saw them live a few months ago. It was an awesome show.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Bury Your ****ing Dead tonight.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Also, does anyone know where to find 100 Demons' guitar tabs? Particularly 'Time Bomb'?

[NewKindofArmy03]

What do people think of these bands?
Set Your Goals
Lifelong Tragedy
Another Breath
Set Your goals-I like one songs by them, How 'Bout No, Scott. The rest I don't like the singer voice, it reminds me of NFG.

Lifelong tragedy-I listened to them once, I remember I liked them I'll have to listen again.

And Another Breath rule, I've been listening to them nonstop lately.

[BuddyBigsby]

Most Precious Blood and A18 is sold out on Friday, and I know its only because all the metalcore kiddies are going out for the trinity of **** that's opening the show: Remembering Never, Dead to Fall, and It Dies Today.

:upset:

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Poor Buddy.

That was last night here, and KLU played.

IT was the 3rd time this month I missed KLU. :upset: x 2

[REINER]

Fahrenheit 451 is playing a reunion show at Cb's.

[CONNER_NWHC]

You gunna go for that?

[REINER]

Probably not. I don't know much of their music.

[CONNER_NWHC]

How many shows do you guys go to a month? I have already gone to three this month.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I only go to about 1 or 2. Not too many good shows here. All the good shows are usually in Montreal...

[takingbacksunday5]

SCREAM-O Bands:
A Static Lullaby, Finch, Funeral For A Friend, The Used, Story Of The Year (borderline), Newer From autumn to ashes, thursday, my chemical romance, etc.

ummm no....A static lullaby ,finch, the used, SOTY, Thursday, and MCR are definatly not screamo bands...just because they scream a little bit here and there does not make them screamo they definatly have screamo influences so ill give you that....FATA is hardcore...as much as i love these bands..they are not screamo..more like emo/hardcore (a mix of the two, whatever you want to call it)

if you would like to know what screamo is listen to the blood brothers or the fall of troy...those are screamo bands

[NewKindofArmy03]

I don't think i've been to one since November 5th. I could end up going to see All Else Failed, Ed Gein, Sex Positions, and The Minor Times next week, but I don't think I can go.

[NewKindofArmy03]

How many shows do you guys go to a month? I have already gone to three this month.
You've gone to 3 shows in the past 7 days?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Did you go to Outbreak noneed?

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

ummm no....A static lullaby ,finch, the used, SOTY, Thursday, and MCR are definatly not screamo bands...just because they scream a little bit here and there does not make them screamo they definatly have screamo influences so ill give you that....FATA is hardcore...as much as i love these bands..they are not screamo..more like emo/hardcore (a mix of the two, whatever you want to call it)

if you would like to know what screamo is listen to the blood brothers or the fall of troy...those are screamo bands
You've still got it wrong.

[REINER]

I go to one on average eveyr month or two. Now that I'm getting myh license it will be like 3 times a month.

Some months are slow, others are filled.