Hardcore Community Thread

[shane italian]

Yeah, I listened to their whole album once briefly. It was really good. I kinda want to get into hardcore but with all the bands you guys name, I get overwhelmed and don't now where to start.I'll help you out then.

Just start with these three:
Carry On
Champion
Over My Dead Body

[REINER]

So Snapecase is breaking up. I never got into them.

[cbmartinez]

I like Champion a lot too, from what I've heard.

[cbmartinez]

So Snapecase is breaking up. I never got into them.

I got a Victory sampler with them on it. The song was pretty good. But I never really followed them up. Are they considered hardcore?

[REINER]

Check out this band, kind of sounds like them I guess. They're going on tour this winter, check them out if they stop by.

http://www.purevolume.com/killcrushdestroy
http://www.myspace.com/killcrushdestroy

[REINER]

I got a Victory sampler with them on it. The song was pretty good. But I never really followed them up. Are they considered hardcore?Yeah, I think they started experimenting more in their later years. I only know like 3 songs.

[cbmartinez]

Check out this band, kind of sounds like them I guess. They're going on tour this winter, check them out if they stop by.

http://www.purevolume.com/killcrushdestroy
http://www.myspace.com/killcrushdestroy

The drumming's cool. The music is pretty good. They kinda remind me of the Casualities.

Edit: Well "A Timeline Of Self Hatred" anyway.

[shane italian]

Reiner, do you like Internal Affairs?

[REINER]

Never bothered to listen to them.

[shane italian]

If you like Outbreak check them out.

[REINER]

I'll get around to it next time I'm on Soulseek.

[shane italian]

Or, just goto www.internalaffairshc.com

[young, loud and andrew]

Pretty much that's it. Carry On have succeeded once again :thumb:

*is wearing his brand new Carry On long sleeve tshirt*

[CONNER_NWHC]

Are Outbreak Straight Edge?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Reiner, do you like Internal Affairs?
I saw them play a 2 songs over the summer, but i never heard their recorded stuff. From what i remember, their singer had really unique scream.

[REINER]

You guys should listen to 7 Angels 7 Plauges.

[shane italian]

The only song I could dig from 7a7p was "Arcadia".

[NewKindofArmy03]

Figures, the Casey Jones tour skips here. It skips a lot of places though considering it's only like 7 shows.

[NewKindofArmy03]

http://www.myspace.com/suffertheliving new band with members of Redline and Shattered Realm. I don't really like them, but I know some people will want to check them out.

[REINER]

You should come to the show by me.

I listened to that band a couple weeks ago. Nothing special.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Come get me.

[NewKindofArmy03]

And i'm seeing All Else Failed and Ed Gein that night, so it's not so bad. Righteous Jams cancelled if you didn't know.

[REINER]

If you didn't live so damn far away I would. Yeah I wish they didn't cancel, I forget who is taking their place right now. Ed Gein didn't show when they were supposed to play here on like Thursday.

[Silvermedalmafia]

You dont realise how incredibely lucky you are. you live some place with a scene. The closest city to me (Vancouver, half hour drive, 2 hour ferry) doesn't have a scene. If i want to go to a show I have to wait for someone decent to come to Vancouver and have an all ager. That happens maybe once a year that I find out about in time.

[capri sun junkie]

Its ok, I feel your pain too. :upset:

[TrinityBombshell]

I saw Ed Gein with Breather Resist on Monday here in Iowa.

That sucks that you missed them.

[Gotkookie]

Ed gein is the ****

[capri sun junkie]

They played here in SD on September 11th this year... I missed it, :upset:.

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah, I listened to their whole album once briefly. It was really good. I kinda want to get into hardcore but with all the bands you guys name, I get overwhelmed and don't now where to start.

I actually just made a hardcore mix for my friend for the same reason. If you want, you can get it off me on Soulseek. Here's the track listing:

1. INTRO: Skarhead – Hardcore Kids
2. Bane – Ante Up
3. American Nightmare (a.k.a. Give Up the Ghost) – AM/PM
4. Good Clean Fun – Who Shares Wins
5. The Warriors – Slings and Arrows
6. Champion – The Truth
7. Panic – I Watch You Sleep
8. Carry On – A Life Less Plagued
9. Death Threat – Bombs Will Fly
10. Casey Jones – If You’re Smoking in Here, You Better Be on Fire
11. Stretch Arm Strong – For the Record
12. Final Fight – Untitled
13. Love is Red – Said and Done
14. Ensign – Never Give In
15. Count Me Out – Best of Me
16. Slapshot – Last Laugh
17. Blood For Blood – So Common, So Cheap
18. Skarhead – Dogs of War
19. Terror – Better Off Without You
20. The Hope Conspiracy – Escapist
21. Sick of It All – Relentless
22. With Honor – Bridges and Gaps
23. The Suicide File – Laramie
24. These Days – This is Ours
25. Unbroken – Absentee Debate
26. Mental – Get an Oxygen Tank

[shane italian]

Wow, most of the songs listed are my favorites from the bands.

[DFelon204409]

I got a Victory sampler with them on it. The song was pretty good. But I never really followed them up. Are they considered hardcore?

They're hardcore in the same sense that Shai Hulud is. Shai Hulud has asymmetric song structure and cool melodic metal riffs but they have breakdowns and it sounds hardcore. Snapcase has metal riffing but you can sense a large hardcore influence. They're one of those bands who do whatever they want so they'll have electronics, industrial, etc.

[insertwordXcore]

anybody like btbam?

[albert_bass]

I actually just made a hardcore mix for my friend for the same reason. If you want, you can get it off me on Soulseek. Here's the track listing:

I preffer Sick of it all:

- District
- America
- Hello Pricks

I say this because maybe you haven't heard. "Yours truly" album kicks ***.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I preffer Sick of it all:

- District
- America
- Hello Pricks

I say this because maybe you haven't heard. "Yours truly" album kicks ***.
Yes, Yours Truly = SOIA's best. Ruin is my favourite SOIA song.

[NewKindofArmy03]

District really isn't as good as the other songs i've heard by them. I need to pick up Blood, Sweat, and No tears because i always here that's their best album.

[cbmartinez]

I actually just made a hardcore mix for my friend for the same reason. If you want, you can get it off me on Soulseek. Here's the track listing:

*Wishes he had slsk*

[REINER]

Just download it. It's free and safe.

[capri sun junkie]

I've gotten a virus from SLSK before. Just have a really good virus scanner. Its not that often that you'd ever get a virus from it...

[REINER]

Or just don't be retarded and make sure to only download things that end in .mp3, or which ever format you use (.wav .m4a .ogg etc.)

[REINER]

I seriously doubt that it was a .mp3. Unless you fell for something like 'Blink182 - Punk Show.mp3.exe' and never notcied or somethign similar.

And anyway, you can just download of Mx'ers if your not willing to take the risk.

[capri sun junkie]

I can't even remember. It was more than a year ago. All I know is that I got a virus from downloading an obscure song by a band I forget.

[NewKindofArmy03]

If you didn't live so damn far away I would. Yeah I wish they didn't cancel, I forget who is taking their place right now. Ed Gein didn't show when they were supposed to play here on like Thursday.
Colin of Arabia and The Breakout are playing it now.

[REINER]

Colin of Arabia, thats it. The Breakout rules, check them out.

Yeah, tell your parents to drive you as part of an early X-mas gift.

[NewKindofArmy03]

It's on a Sunday night, no way i'd be able to make it.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

What are Lifetime categorized as?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Their early stuff can be considered emo. I consider them pop-punk though.

[REINER]

Post-Hardcore

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

They seem like pop-punk with hardcore influences. That doesn't really make them post-hardcore.

[REINER]

It's on a Sunday night, no way i'd be able to make it. http://www.cutthetension.com/oneup/NOV23.jpg
Isn't that by you? Blacklisted is also on the show.

[an0therface]

is there a mx room on slsk? if so what is it called.
i always have trouble finding stuff from certain bands and what not..

[BuddyBigsby]

Add me, same name as on the forums. I have a pretty decent variety of mp3s.

[AARON27]

I saw them play a 2 songs over the summer, but i never heard their recorded stuff. From what i remember, their singer had really unique scream.

There pretty good there doing a split with Last Nerve from Sydney.

[REINER]

is there a mx room on slsk? if so what is it called.
i always have trouble finding stuff from certain bands and what not..
Mx Punk

That's the room, it's case sensitive.

[NewKindofArmy03]

http://www.cutthetension.com/oneup/NOV23.jpg
Isn't that by you? Blacklisted is also on the show.
About 10-15 miles from here. I'm not sure if Paint it Black is on there now. I would go if it wasn't a school night, if it was tomorrow i'd try getting there.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

If anyone has seen The Girl Next Door, when do they play Break Down The Walls in it?? It's on the soundtrack to the movie...

[young, loud and andrew]

If anyone has seen The Girl Next Door, when do they play Break Down The Walls in it?? It's on the soundtrack to the movie...

I think it's when you first see the **** producer/director.


Guess what? I JUST MET HENRY ****IN' ROLLINS at Fuse's Daily Download. Holy ****!

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I think it's when you first see the **** producer/director.


Guess what? I JUST MET HENRY ****IN' ROLLINS at Fuse's Daily Download. Holy ****!
What's Fuse's Daily Download?? And you talked to him and stuff??

[shane italian]

Stickied Again! Sweet Joy

[SmashThePMRC]

****it, im not trying to spam but no where else i can ask this,

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO FORCED LISTENING THREAD

why did it get deleted

[BuddyBigsby]

For this superior thread.

[BuddyBigsby]

In today's edition of Buddy's Time Machine:

Bleeding Through scares me. I really want to go up and ask my parents if I can buy This is Love, This is Murderous and show them the CD cover. They are a scary band though.

[Excursions]

bigsby how about you go on soulseek so i can download your hardcore cd you made :thumb: thanks master

[young, loud and andrew]

What's Fuse's Daily Download?? And you talked to him and stuff??

yup. all i could mouth out was "Damaged is one of the best cds ever." i am never starstruck, but i certainly was with Rollins.

[cbmartinez]

In today's edition of Buddy's Time Machine:

I never said that!

Did I ever tell you the time I sucked a black man's penis?
No, gross.
It's true, I did.

And the hardcore/metalcore education once again reigns at the top of the page (Stickied like what).

[cbmartinez]

Whoa, Shane left.

[REINER]

I was listening to If Looks Could Kill I'd Watch You Die and I realized it's alot better than the other 2 DBS CD's.

[cbmartinez]

Really? Damn, I need to get some more DBS. All I have is Into The Valley Of Death, which is magnificent. If If Looks Could Could Kill... is better, I definitely need to pick it up.

Raised Fist, hardcore or metalcore?

[REINER]

I've always liked the 2 newer Cd's better, but for some reason I find myself listening to If Looks.... now.

Hardcore.

[BuddyBigsby]

bigsby how about you go on soulseek so i can download your hardcore cd you made :thumb: thanks master

I haven't been home lately, plus I see you're from NZ so I'm asleep when you're awake. Keep checking in the next couple days from time to time.

[cbmartinez]

I'm doing my review for Rise Of New Reason and I have a few questions:

1. Is The Procedure an edge band? I know some of their lyrics focus around edge issues.
2. In the booklet for Thursday's Waiting, it says additional guitar was played by Frank. Perhaps I'm assuming too much, but is it possible that he is the Frank Fenimore, gutiarist of The Procedure? Perhaps Bill and him were friends at the time and he let him play on the album?

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Raised Fist, hardcore or metalcore?

I've been listening to Dedication a lot lately. So repetative. So good.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, I love that CD.

[REINER]

I'm doing my review for Rise Of New Reason and I have a few questions:

1. Is The Procedure an edge band? I know some of their lyrics focus around edge issues.
2. In the booklet for Thursday's Waiting, it says additional guitar was played by Frank. Perhaps I'm assuming too much, but is it possible that he is the Frank Fenimore, gutiarist of The Procedure? Perhaps Bill and him were friends at the time and he let him play on the album?
1. Some of the members are edge I believe, but I'm not sure if they claimed to be an edge band.

2. I never looked into the booklet for that album, but it's safe to assume they're one in the same.

[Excursions]

I haven't been home lately, plus I see you're from NZ so I'm asleep when you're awake. Keep checking in the next couple days from time to time.

cheers i have seen you on before so yea i will try to be on as much as possible :wave:

[cbmartinez]

1. Some of the members are edge I believe, but I'm not sure if they claimed to be an edge band.

2. I never looked into the booklet for that album, but it's safe to assume they're one in the same.

Thanks.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I was listening to If Looks Could Kill I'd Watch You Die and I realized it's alot better than the other 2 DBS CD's.
I still need that, I heard Looking Out For #1 and it's one the best songs they have.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

What do Vision of Disorder fit under?

[obese_breasts]

Really? Damn, I need to get some more DBS. All I have is Into The Valley Of Death, which is magnificent. If If Looks Could Could Kill... is better, I definitely need to pick it up.


Get both of the other cd's. All of them are really really good

[BuddyBigsby]

What do Vision of Disorder fit under?

Metalcore

[shane italian]

New BYD owns. Check it out.

[BuddyBigsby]

WELCOME TO LAST MONTH, SHANE

[SILVERTRIX]

Check out Called to Arms

[cbmartinez]

Sk8Ska, does Bill play lead or rhthym?

[REINER]

Lead.

[cbmartinez]

Thought so, thanks.

So he's doing those little trills and doing the backing screams during the chorus of "For Janus?"

[REINER]

Most likely, I'm to lazy to check out my DVD, but odds are it's him.

[cbmartinez]

Awesome. Thanks. Can you order the DVD?

[REINER]

Talk to Bill. I don't know if he has any left. If your lucky he might make you another one if he's out.

[REINER]

It was like 8 bucks then like 1 for shipping I think. It's on 2 DVD's, 1st DVD is Marathon, Ensign and 1 Procedure song and the 2nd DVD is Crime In Stereo and The Procedure.

[victimofreality]

What should I say to people who say that say there is no genre that is just hardcore? They say what I consider hardcore is Hardcore Punk, and that there is no one genre called hardcore, but a hardcore sub genre for punk, metal, etc..

[REINER]

Well it is a subgenre of punk, and punk is a subgenre of Rock and rock is a subgenre of music.

Tell them that.

[shane italian]

Leaving is hard. I decided I'll stay awhile since the thread is back. But one day I will simply stop posting.

[cbmartinez]

Leaving is hard. I decided I'll stay awhile since the thread is back. But one day I will simply stop posting.

:upset:

This thread would pretty much die and I don't know what I would do without this thread.

403 posts what?

[shane italian]

I would leave without this thread. It's the only thing that REALLY interests me.

[cbmartinez]

The punk forum in particular is becoming a joke. Their are like 12 cool people still around and the rest are idiotic noobs.

[REINER]

Shane if you haven't noticed, this is the only place I post seriously. Aside from the Video Game forum.

[cbmartinez]

The Procedure- Rise Of New Reason (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5607228)

Finally, it's done.

[BuddyBigsby]

This thread is probably the only reason I'm really still around, too. Way too many stupid kids are on these forums, ESPECIALLY in Rock and Metal.

[cbmartinez]

I don't even bother with Rock and Metal. I've only posted in there like 10 times, but every time I did, there seemed to be plenty of idiotic noobs and arrogant "regulars."

[Gotkookie]

agreed

[AIRIC]

I would leave without this thread. It's the only thing that REALLY interests me.


No, I would miss you.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I would leave without this thread. It's the only thing that REALLY interests me.

I knew you'd be back. They always come back.

[Happymeal]

I just discovered McCarthyism Records. I haven't listened to all of the bands but they seem to have a pretty solid lineup. I'm digging Medic and Carrion right now.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I would leave without this thread. It's the only thing that REALLY interests me.
Same here. Most of my posts are in this thread now, probably about 75% of them.

[cbmartinez]

Idiotic Quote/Misuse and Creation of a Genre/Blatant Ignorance Of The Day:


In the thread titled "Avenged Sevenfold" in Rock And Metal:

Its great to see them evolve from the screamocore roots of songs like "darkness surrounding" to the songwriting force that they are.

Bravo.

[obese_breasts]

wow, just wow

[40 oz 2 freedom]

What's so bad about evolving from screamocore?

[cbmartinez]

Because screamocore is the epitome of music. You can't evolve from screamocore.

[cbmartinez]

http://www.purevolume.com/kudata

They're from around here. They're decent. The first song has a cool chorus and the second song has a cool intro.

[honkybrewster]

screamocore is just another made up genre. avenged sevenfold is metal. let's end it there.

[shane italian]

screamocore is just another made up genre. avenged sevenfold is metal. let's end it there.Bro, I think he was joking.

[honkybrewster]

Yeah... I think so. I feel silly...

[shane italian]

It's okay =-*

[DFelon204409]

I invented screamocore once but I didn't like it and threw it away. Best creation is pop punk + generic hardcore = popcore. Welcome to the world of new Underoath, Silverstein, and Finch.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I like Finch, a lot. So sue me!

[cbmartinez]

I invented screamocore once but I didn't like it and threw it away. Best creation is pop punk + generic hardcore = popcore. Welcome to the world of new Underoath, Silverstein, and Finch.

Yeah, I use the word emocore for most of those bands just because I have a lack of better word. Popcore is good, considering it's wrong to say emocore because bands like Finch and Vendetta Red don't really have emo in them.

[Gotkookie]

I invented screamocore once but I didn't like it and threw it away. Best creation is pop punk + generic hardcore = popcore. Welcome to the world of new Underoath, Silverstein, and Finch.
No, it should be pogcore

Pop punk plus generic hardcore = pogcore.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

No, it shouldn't. Popcore is just fine.

[YourPoisonWords]

theres too many "cores"

[genre-whore]

anyone ever heard of Atreyu...and if yes could anyone tell me wat they fall under...

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Yes, we've heard of Atreyu. Who hasn't?

[BuddyBigsby]

Get the **** out of this thread.

[obese_breasts]

Get the **** out of this thread.

nicely put

[DFelon204409]

No, it should be pogcore

Pop punk plus generic hardcore = pogcore.

Pogcore sounds like the hardcore I listened to back in 3rd grade when I rocked out at pogs with my cherry scented slammer and my skull emblazoned shredder.

[REINER]

I'm missing With Honor tonight, so gay.

[shane italian]

Over My Dead Body better not be sold out tonight. If it is, we'll find a way in. Or pull some street mosh.

[Gotkookie]

Spinkick the bouncer.

[AIRIC]

Over My Dead Body better not be sold out tonight. If it is, we'll find a way in. Or pull some street mosh.


reppage to me will get you in fo' sho'

[obese_breasts]

I'm missing With Honor tonight, so gay.
:eek: That sucks

[XoffbroadwayX]

Ok, is Dillinger grindcore? Cause apparently on pahardcore I'm a total idiot.

[DFelon204409]

Dillinger Escape Plan isn't grind. Apparently everywhere you are an idiot. That is unless you support their classification as metal or math metal or anything that is not grind or rap or polka or country.

[DFelon204409]

Over My Dead Body better not be sold out tonight. If it is, we'll find a way in. Or pull some street mosh.

I haven't gone to a show since August. It's not really hampering my life that much. You all should try this amazing thing called beer and poon. It's amazing and you don't need to be a rapper anymore to get it! There's this place called college where it's free and it's neat. I listen to loud music in my room by day, and get raucously drunk by night. I also do a lot of school work because I'm a nerd.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I haven't gone to a show since August. It's not really hampering my life that much. You all should try this amazing thing called beer and poon. It's amazing and you don't need to be a rapper anymore to get it! There's this place called college where it's free and it's neat. I listen to loud music in my room by day, and get raucously drunk by night. I also do a lot of school work because I'm a nerd.
:lol:

[chips88]

sounds like the life :rolleyes:

[Gotkookie]

Mx is gay, Im leaving, everytime I try to get my rep up, shane bes gay and neg reps me.

[chips88]

++ repped, there, better?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Headbangers ball actually had some good stuff on so far. I saw Terror, Full Blown Chaos, Agnostic Front(they were on the show), Madball, and there was a few other videos I liked.

[Gotkookie]

Idk, mx is just gay in general, especially the punk forum. Maybe ill stay.

[DFelon204409]

MX is pleasant. It's only homosexual when it bends over and takes it from members like Tiger, who are flagrantly homosexual but don't know how to cope with their own insecurities. He should just embrace the fact that if he could he'd take a website to brown town instead of fearing his own urges.

[REINER]

I only post seriously in here and the occasional good thread.

[Silvermedalmafia]

I only post seriously in here and the occasional good thread.
I don't post seriously. But seriously, this forum is really brutal lately. 95% of the threads suck.

[chips88]

yeah, shows how much the repping system works, you dont even have stars. you are one of the more intelligent posters in punk. when are you guys getting that new mod or whatever?

[chips88]

I don't post seriously. But seriously, this forum is really brutal lately. 95% of the threads suck.

that why you're in poppunk so much lately? we're just a last resort :upset:

[REINER]

Me or Silver?
I only need like 25 more points till stars.

Well PDWAB is already in here now that he's a super mod. Odds are DKpinhead and I will get (re)modded within a couple months if we're lucky.

[Silvermedalmafia]

yeah, shows how much the repping system works, you dont even have stars. you are one of the more intelligent posters in punk. when are you guys getting that new mod or whatever?
*Feels good to be recognized as intelligent*
Sometimes I feel sad not to have stars, but then I look away from the computer and get distracted enough by a shiney object to forget what I was thinking about.

[Silvermedalmafia]

Me or Silver?
I only need like 25 more points till stars.

Well PDWAB is already in here now that he's a super mod. Odds are DKpinhead and I will get (re)modded within a couple months if we're lucky.
Both. And Dk has been remodded. check the little box at the bottom of the page where it says "mods". I just realised that today.

[chips88]

i was talking to ska when i said intelligent, but silvermedal is intelligent too. you guys are part of a very small group, and it seems ever since ive gotten here, ive seen the punk forum steadily decline. coincidence?

[REINER]

Yeah, this place sucks.

He has always been in the mods list, but he is banned and not in the mod's user group.

[Silvermedalmafia]

Oh, thats what happened. Yeah, we need some sort of Invite only community thread to keep it elite.

[IFlogMyMolly16]

Am I invited!!111

[Silvermedalmafia]

Am I invited!!111
Of course. You have a doug avatar.

[BuddyBigsby]

Headbangers ball actually had some good stuff on so far. I saw Terror, Full Blown Chaos, Agnostic Front(they were on the show), Madball, and there was a few other videos I liked.

Wait, FBC have a video?!

[REINER]

"last 2 times they've played here they havent been able to finish a whole set cuz of fights"

"there was a big fight tonight during the breakout, alls i saw was like 5 huge fsu dudes stomping on some dudes head and then cleaning up the blood afterwards. it was so scary"

"with honor cut their set short because of a fight though"

All within the show I had to miss tonight, SO PISSED.

[Alley McVeal]

kill animals

[chips88]

just another example of what we were talking about earlier

[victimofreality]

Well it is a subgenre of punk, and punk is a subgenre of Rock and rock is a subgenre of music.

Tell them that.
Ok sounds good, but on a continuation to that stupid question... Is their a difference between hardcore punk, and hardcore?

[Johnny EPHC]

Reiner, do you know where your friend got that sXe hoodie with the Misfits logo on it? I want to get it for my friend for Christmas.

[obese_breasts]

Reiner, do you know where your friend got that sXe hoodie with the Misfits logo on it? I want to get it for my friend for Christmas.

This One? (http://evrstore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=EVRS&Product_Code=BRIDGE%209:BR9%20MISFT-H&Category_Code=HOODIES&Product_Count=2)

[Johnny EPHC]

This One? (http://evrstore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=EVRS&Product_Code=BRIDGE%209:BR9%20MISFT-H&Category_Code=HOODIES&Product_Count=2)
Yes. Thanks a ton.

Nice avatar by the way.

[snakes]

www.purevolume.com/countdowntolife

is this considered metalcore, or hardcore?

[cbmartinez]

Mx is gay, Im leaving, everytime I try to get my rep up, shane bes gay and neg reps me.

Awww, boohoo. Every time I almost get those pretty stars, someone neg reps me! MX IS GAY!

Shut the hell up. This reputation **** means nothing.

[cbmartinez]

"last 2 times they've played here they havent been able to finish a whole set cuz of fights"

"there was a big fight tonight during the breakout, alls i saw was like 5 huge fsu dudes stomping on some dudes head and then cleaning up the blood afterwards. it was so scary"

"with honor cut their set short because of a fight though"

All within the show I had to miss tonight, SO PISSED.

Heheh, I don't know if I could handle a hardcore show.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Wait, FBC have a video?!
Yeah, for the song Apocalypse.

And I actually liked the new AF song, it's nothing like their old stuff though.

[Scabies]

should i go and see madball next saturday? or will the FSU think theyre well hard and stomp on my punk rock head?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Go see them, I saw them in August and they ruled. Who are they playing with?

[shane italian]

should i go and see madball next saturday? or will the FSU think theyre well hard and stomp on my punk rock head?Hahah, FSU stand up for punk kids just as much as hardcore kids...go see Madball.

[TheRapeGoesOn]

we dont have fsu here.


infact, we have no elitist retards here, which is nice :)

[chips88]

im not really into the hardcore/punk scene that much, so could you enlighten me as to what FSU is?

[shane italian]

we dont have fsu here.


infact, we have no elitist retards here, which is nice :)At least we have men here.

[Lexluthor]

I was always pretty sure Black Flag were hardcore (well in there early days before they did that metal ****e)

Well they are right before I go and embarass my self.

Good thread by the way

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I was always pretty sure Black Flag were hardcore (well in there early days before they did that metal ****e)

Well they are right before I go and embarass my self.

Good thread by the way
Yes they are.

[cbmartinez]

im not really into the hardcore/punk scene that much, so could you enlighten me as to what FSU is?

Eh, I'm not going to explain this very well but hardcore is associated with a lot of lifestyles and such (Straight Edge, Tough Guy, etc.). These "lifestyles" often spawn "crews," FSU being one of them. Unfortuantely, these crews often go around picking fights which is why you hear about a lot of violence happening at hardcore shows. An example is the lead singer of the hardcore band Terror, who was in FSU. This leads to a lot of FSU members often coming Terror shows and getting violent. Eh, that's what I can tell you from my knowledge. Someone else could probably give you a more detailed and straightforward definition.

[REINER]

The thing is FSU is a group of friends who stick close, so if you mess with one of them you mess with all of them. Aslong as you don't be a retard and go out of your way to annoy someone you'll be fine.

Just don't be stupid.

[DFelon204409]

That's so stupid though. Why should anybody have to modify their behavior to cater to an idiotic crew? They shouldn't.

[Scabies]

The thing is FSU is a group of friends who stick close, so if you mess with one of them you mess with all of them. Aslong as you don't be a retard and go out of your way to annoy someone you'll be fine.

Just don't be stupid.

We have people called chavs here in england. all the FSU are is a glorified version of these chav pricks.

[Scabies]

You wanna go and see ....

Monday, December 06, 2004 Adv £ 10.00 Door £ From 19:00
HARDCORE
MADBALL
plus 50 CALIBER and SUICIDE WATCH

At the underworld, you know u wanna, ill get your ticket if you wanan go, let me know,

[chips88]

Eh, I'm not going to explain this very well but hardcore is associated with a lot of lifestyles and such (Straight Edge, Tough Guy, etc.). These "lifestyles" often spawn "crews," FSU being one of them. Unfortuantely, these crews often go around picking fights which is why you hear about a lot of violence happening at hardcore shows. An example is the lead singer of the hardcore band Terror, who was in FSU. This leads to a lot of FSU members often coming Terror shows and getting violent. Eh, that's what I can tell you from my knowledge. Someone else could probably give you a more detailed and straightforward definition.

that is the stupidest thing ever. and to think i kind of liked terror. thats bs

[NewKindofArmy03]

I also saw a Love is Red video last night, I didn't like that band at all.

[REINER]

Love is Red is horrible on CD, but they're not bad live.

[NewKindofArmy03]

They're on Stillborn Fest, so i'll see then.

[shane italian]

We have people called chavs here in england. all the FSU are is a glorified version of these chav pricks.The best part is that your logical thoughts won't get you out of an *** beating.

[REINER]

As the days go by I watch you die Shane.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I finally heard With Honor, and I'm really dissappointed.

[REINER]

With Honor rule, your deaf.

Bridges and Gaps
The Mirror
To Believe
With the Wind

Listen to those songs (aka the EP)

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I finally heard With Honor, and I'm really dissappointed.
What did you listen to by them?

[40 oz 2 freedom]

:upset:

I have 'Heart Means Everything'.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

:upset:

I have 'Heart Means Everything'.
If you don't like it, there is no hope for you.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I don't know, maybe it's just because I've heard so much about them, so I expected more.

[NewKindofArmy03]

A lot of people don't like them, I think the stuff I have is really good though.

[REINER]

The EP is better than the full length.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I'm downloading about everything you have by them.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I like the full length better. Perfect Stance and When Will We Learn are the best songs.

[REINER]

I'm downloading about everything you have by them.Yeah I'm getting FBC off you.

I have the full length and the EP, that one track listed (demo) is the same as the one from the full length I just added that so I knew which file went to which album. Also all the Id3 tags should be perfect.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I've been playing the FBC song Apocalypse nonstop today.

[BuddyBigsby]

I've been playing the FBC album nonstop this past month and a half.

[tornpictures]

Militant straight-edgers suck.

[TheRapeGoesOn]

scientists have proven drinking beer everyday is good for you.


in your ****ing faces

[capri sun junkie]

:lol:

[Gallows_Pole]

Alright maybe somebody posted this in one of the 200 and some pages but i dont feel like looking through all of them. Anyway can someone tell me what is the deal with the "hardcore kid" look. i.e. guys wearing girls pants and such. It blows my mind. Ive never really got into hardcore stuff. All it is to me is Slayer singing about their girlfriends. But hey to each his own.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Alright maybe somebody posted this in one of the 200 and some pages but i dont feel like looking through all of them. Anyway can someone tell me what is the deal with the "hardcore kid" look. i.e. guys wearing girls pants and such. It blows my mind. Ive never really got into hardcore stuff. All it is to me is Slayer singing about their girlfriends. But hey to each his own.
There aren't a lot of hardcore bands who sing about their girlfriends most of the time. Some have a few songs like that though.

The girl pants thing is just fashion. Like punks with mohawks...except with girl's pants...

[tornpictures]

Alright maybe somebody posted this in one of the 200 and some pages but i dont feel like looking through all of them. Anyway can someone tell me what is the deal with the "hardcore kid" look. i.e. guys wearing girls pants and such. It blows my mind. Ive never really got into hardcore stuff. All it is to me is Slayer singing about their girlfriends. But hey to each his own.

Try listening to a band called Blood Brothers.

Total ****. Worst fashionxcore stuff ever.

[TheRapeGoesOn]

At least we have men here.


sorry, i couldnt hear over the girls trousers, say again?

[AIRIC]

Whoever has Smacking Isaiah on slsk, get at me niggas.

Skrunnch

[BuddyBigsby]

Try listening to a band called Blood Brothers.

Total ****. Worst fashionxcore stuff ever.

Holy 2001 Batman!

[REINER]

Whoever has Smacking Isaiah on slsk, get at me niggas.

SkrunnchI have a couple songs on my PC.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I like the Blood Brothers.

[REINER]

They're overated, I listen every now and then. Not enough to actually remember more than 2 songs.

[obese_breasts]

They're overated, I listen every now and then. Not enough to actually remember more than 2 songs.

123

[obese_breasts]

Whoever has Smacking Isaiah on slsk, get at me niggas.

Skrunnch

I have one album of their on slsk. Hit me up.

[cbmartinez]

Try listening to a band called Blood Brothers.

Total ****. Worst fashionxcore stuff ever.

Sweet! Torn is back!

[AIRIC]

I have one album of their on slsk. Hit me up.


Just did fat man.

:)

[DFelon204409]

They're overated, I listen every now and then. Not enough to actually remember more than 2 songs.

Their new CD is blow but their middle two are pretty rockin. I find that there's more energy in those two than on most other CDs of comparible contrived artiness.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

I just made a hardcore comp cd thing. I tried to make it so there would be sort of smooth transitions between different styles. So anyway this is how it shwaz.

1. Go It Alone - Statement
2. Another Breath - Racing A Fading Image
3. Bars - Up To My Neck
4. Bane - Ante Up
5. Give Up The Ghost - Crimescene
6. Faded Grey - Makeshift Family
7. Reaching Forward - In Your Eyes
8. Carry On - Off My Chest
9. With Honor - Perfect Stance
10. Miles Between Us - Ours To Reclaim
11. Afterlife - Allstars
12. In My Eyes - Making Sense
13. Champion - Is Anybody There (Alone In A Crowd cover)
14. Final Fight - My Life
15. Down To Nothing - Save It For The Birds
16. Bones Brigade - Jocks On Wheels
17. Blood For Blood - Ain't Like You (Wasted Youth II)
18. Blacklisted - Back And Forth
19. No Warning - Wrong Again
20. Every Time I Die - Romeo A Go-Go
21. The Distance - Get ****ed
22. Barricade - Let Me Go
23. The Hope Conspiracy - Youth And It's Burden
24. Trial - Reflections
25. Sick Of It All - This Day And Age
26. Slumlords - Trial By Fire
27. Outbreak - Out(break)tro
28. Mental - Heads Or Tails
29. Cops And Robbers - Execution Style
30. Righteous Jams - Invasion/Scream and Shout

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Invasion used to be this band, but now we're playin' Righteous Jams!

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Righteous Jams aren't playing the Miles Between Us reunion any more :(

[40 oz 2 freedom]

They are playing the 30th with Mental. :cool:

[ph0bia]

That would be a really good comp, add one of american nightmares old songs. AM/PM would be good.

[capri sun junkie]

Good avatar sir.

[DFelon204409]

Straight up hardcore ain't that interesting. I have enjoyed Casey Jones and Champion but when it comes down to it I need some spruced up melody or technicality to flavor it. Like Shai Hulud. That is neat as all hell.

[ph0bia]

Straight up hardcore ain't that interesting. I have enjoyed Casey Jones and Champion but when it comes down to it I need some spruced up melody or technicality to flavor it. Like Shai Hulud. That is neat as all hell.
Werd, Ive been working on tabbing out their latest cd "That within ill blood tempered"

Shai hulud is probably my favorite hardcore band.

[BuddyBigsby]

Quick review of tonight's All Else Failed / Ed Gein show:

10 kids on the floor by the time AEF played. God, I hate SoCal kids sometimes. I was the only one that knew who they were and sang along, or moved for that matter. I was definitely that guy. Ed Gein at least got some decent reception. Kids better start listening to them by the time they come back next month with The Minor Times, or else...

[Malice]

Hey, I was just wondering what genre CKY fitted into?
I have no idea where to post this, I just thought the Hardcore education bit fitted appropriatly (sp).

[BuddyBigsby]

Really bad hard rock.

[Malice]

Right, thanks!












































































No seriously, what genre?

[BuddyBigsby]

Seriously. They are hard rock, and they suck at it.

[tornpictures]

Bring on the Hot Topic nu-metal kids!

It's good to see Ed Gein getting such a good response these days.
They totally deserve it.

[Malice]

Right then. I'll think I'll leave it at that.

Thanks a bunch

[Malice]

Bring on the Hot Topic nu-metal kids!

Was that directed at me?

If it was,
a) I'm Australian, and we don't have Hot Topic in Australia
b) I like nu-metal a bit, so who cares?
c) Hey, how you doing?

[ph0bia]

Review my band profile Im gonna put up when this account can make a new thread...

Shai hulud
Current lineup:
Vocals (Currently searching)
Guitar - Matt fox
Drums - Tony tintari
Bass - Matt fletcher

Years playing:
1995 - 2004

Homeland:
Florida, Currently in NY

Discography:
Profound hatred of a man (1997)
Shai hulud/Indecision - Fall of every man (1998)
Hearts once nourished with hope and compassion (1998)
Shai hulud/Another victim - A whole new level of sickness (2000)
That within blood ill tempered (2003)

Other band members
Jared Allen (bass)
Chris Cardinal (drums)
Oliver Chapoy (guitar)
Chad Gilbert (vocals)
Steve Kleisath (drums)
Damien Moyal (vocals)
Dave Silber (bass)
Geert Van der Velde (vocals)

Biography:
Shai Hulud comes from Frank Herbert's science fiction epic series, Dune. Shai Hulud are the giant sandworms on the desert planet Arrakis (also known as Dune). Although they are called many different names, when the sandworms are referred to as SHAI-HULUD, it usually indicates the worm as on object of worship in Fremen (natives of Dune) superstitions.

I wish I could find a history for you guys, I looked really hard, I cant find enough info to write my own.

Suggested songs:
My heart bleeds the darkest blood
Set your body ablaze
If born from this soil
Being exemplary
Whether to cry or destroy

No links sorry, they dont post links.

Shai hulud side projects:
Zombie Apocalypse (Current side project)
Boddicker (abandoned)

Last show : July 25 2004

More info (http://www.hulud.com/faq.html)

[tornpictures]

Shai Hulud are TERRIBLE. Seriously.
Those album titles crack me up, though. Looks like they're really trying to come over as intellectuals.

Mjt182, it wasn't directed at you, don't worry.

[Malice]

Ok, good. Thanks.

[circuits]

i didn't bother reading every reply, so i don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet.

your genre separation is pretty ****ed up. hoods, hatebreed and clenched fist are, in no way, metalcore. terror is way more metal than those, by far. and terror isn't even close to metalcore.

and if you're going to talk about grindcore, you have to separate it from grind. they're NOT one in the same. some examples of grind: napalm death, anal cunt(even though it was a joke band), cattle decapitation, agoraphobic nosebleed, etc. some examples of grindcore: converge, curl up and die, the red chord, bodies in the gears of the apparatus, ion dissonance, etc.

the rest is pretty accurate. just thought i'd point out those flaws.

[ph0bia]

i didn't bother reading every reply, so i don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet.

your genre separation is pretty ****ed up. hoods, hatebreed and clenched fist are, in no way, metalcore. terror is way more metal than those, by far. and terror isn't even close to metalcore.

and if you're going to talk about grindcore, you have to separate it from grind. they're NOT one in the same. some examples of grind: napalm death, anal cunt(even though it was a joke band), cattle decapitation, agoraphobic nosebleed, etc. some examples of grindcore: converge, curl up and die, the red chord, bodies in the gears of the apparatus, ion dissonance, etc.

the rest is pretty accurate. just thought i'd point out those flaws.
You have a good point. Grindcore shouldnt really sound like grind, it should sound like hardcore mixed with grind. Which makes sense, a lot of those bands do have grind elements and hardcore elements in them.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Quick review of tonight's All Else Failed / Ed Gein show:

10 kids on the floor by the time AEF played. God, I hate SoCal kids sometimes. I was the only one that knew who they were and sang along, or moved for that matter. I was definitely that guy. Ed Gein at least got some decent reception. Kids better start listening to them by the time they come back next month with The Minor Times, or else...
I have to miss the show here. The Minor Times are a pretty good band from somewhere around here, I never saw them before though.

[REINER]

Shai Hulud rules.

FYI, they're not playing under that name anymore. They're playing under The Warmth of Red Blood.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Just to let you know the venue and time changed for the benefit show changed. Is there a different one that's called the Bloomsfield ave cafe or something?

[ph0bia]

Shai Hulud rules.

FYI, they're not playing under that name anymore. They're playing under The Warmth of Red Blood.
Yeah I know, but they havent started playing again yet, they are still searching for a vocalist.

[cbmartinez]

That Shai Halud profile was pretty lame, go into more history and such. My PTW FA (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236911) rules all. I spent a stupidly long amount of time on that.

[ph0bia]

That Shai Halud profile was pretty lame, go into more history and such. My PTW FA (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236911) rules all. I spent a stupidly long amount of time on that.
Ok lets see if you can find ANY INFO on their history, I doubt you will find any.

There is nothing on their site, I also searched through 20 ****ing pages of google.


I wish I could find a history for you guys, I looked really hard, I cant find enough info to write my own.


Umm if you also didnt notice I posted this on the profile

[ph0bia]

i didn't bother reading every reply, so i don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet.

your genre separation is pretty ****ed up. hoods, hatebreed and clenched fist are, in no way, metalcore. terror is way more metal than those, by far. and terror isn't even close to metalcore.

and if you're going to talk about grindcore, you have to separate it from grind. they're NOT one in the same. some examples of grind: napalm death, anal cunt(even though it was a joke band), cattle decapitation, agoraphobic nosebleed, etc. some examples of grindcore: converge, curl up and die, the red chord, bodies in the gears of the apparatus, ion dissonance, etc.

the rest is pretty accurate. just thought i'd point out those flaws.
They say it is metalcore because of the drop tuning and the tone is metalcorish, but I still agree they are hardcore.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Some people say Hatebreed are hardcore, supposedly metallic hardcore. Then some people think that's the same thing as a metalcore, so whatever you want to think is fine, they're definately more hardcore then metal though.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

They are playing the 30th with Mental. :cool:
Mental is playing the show RJ were on. Oh well Miles Between Us are playing so I'm happy.

[tornpictures]

You have a good point. Grindcore shouldnt really sound like grind, it should sound like hardcore mixed with grind. Which makes sense, a lot of those bands do have grind elements and hardcore elements in them.

I disagree. I think it should sound like punk vs. hardcore punk. Grind made more intense.

[capri sun junkie]

your genre separation is pretty ****ed up. hoods, hatebreed and clenched fist are, in no way, metalcore. terror is way more metal than those, by far. and terror isn't even close to metalcore.

and if you're going to talk about grindcore, you have to separate it from grind. they're NOT one in the same. some examples of grind: napalm death, anal cunt(even though it was a joke band), cattle decapitation, agoraphobic nosebleed, etc. some examples of grindcore: converge, curl up and die, the red chord, bodies in the gears of the apparatus, ion dissonance, etc.


Cattle Decapitation are death/gore metal. Although they do have (had) some grind folk. Rob Astor is on drums, and Gabe Serbian used to play guitar up until the new album.

[ph0bia]

I see it as, grind is true grind, while grindcore is basically grind with hardcore influences.

Grindcore has longer songs. I guess daughters and all the other bands like them would be considered grindcore.

[obese_breasts]

wait is ph0bia=gotkookie?

[BuddyBigsby]

haha, I think so.

[REINER]

Oh yeah I final listened to Casey Jones/Traitor today. It's really good. Traitor sounded alot better than their demo. Casey Jones was good, but to short.

[CONNER_NWHC]

Just three songs each right?

[REINER]

Yeah.