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[JAStewart]

Ok I don't care if you, your grandmother or your cousin 6 times related through your step sisters brothers childs side thinks that the WWE or WWF is cheesy and lame I am just wanting a few answers...

I stopped in 2001 and have kinda started watching it again.

So much stuff happened and I don't really like the changes.

But anyway...

Why and where did...

X-Pac
Jeff Hardy
Mark Hendry
Road Dogg
Ken Shamrock
Steve Blackman
Gangrel
+ any others you want to add

go?

Why did Edge and Christian split up as a team?
Why did the Hardys split?

Did the following wrestlers die?

Ultimate warrior
Mr. Perfect
Yukozona
British Bulldog
Hawk (Or Animal)

Thanks.

Note from SD: Don't troll in this thread or come in here to flame wrestling or wrestling fans, or you can take a vacation.

[brycey]

You got the deaths correct (although I'm not sure about Ultimate Warrior)

Mark Henry and Jeff still wrestle now and again. The rest just disappeared. :( I liked Road Dogg.

E&C split due to Edge being King Of The Ring in... 2001 I think.


I presume you know about Owen Hart's death.

[camelfarmer]

Does anyone still believe its real??

[bass is good]

poor old owen hart.:(

used to watch wrestling but then i stopped because i thought it was lame. But then i realised that even though it's kinda lame, it's still fun to watch. I need to get bacck into it a bit.

[brycey]

Does anyone still believe its real??
...It's not? :(

[the_uber_penguin]

What? Jeff Hardy gone! Nooo....

I watched up until the "Inagrial Brawl" (basically a 5 v 5 tornado tag match) on the Invasion PPV. I really hated the Invasion storyline, so I stopped watching.

WCW going wasn't all bad, they did misuse a lot of talent (They had Bret Hart, Steve Austin, Cactus Jack and many more and really under used them) but they had the best cruiserweight division ever. I'm going to miss that, WWE doesn't put on matches like that.

WWE also lost (IMO) one of the best gimmicks. Kane is now unmasked and bald (and, it turns out, really ugly, but don't tell him I said that) I much preferred him with the mask. It gave him more of an aura.

Anyways, they don't show wrestling on TV in the UK anymore (unless you have the American channels through Sky. I don't) but they used to show PPV's and Heat on Channel 4.

I want to go back the glory days of: Mick Foley commissioner of WWF (as it was then) and WCW cruiserweight.

Oh, and if you think you can do a better job then Vince McMahon, go to http://www.400softwarestudios.com/game_downloads.php and download Total Warfare Revenge. (I have Extreme Warfare Revenge, it is excellent. Total is the new version)

[Kif]

Christian left Edge because he won some title and wanted to increase his status, Jeff was on Smakcdown and Matt was on Raw, and Jeff just left. And Yokozuna has been dead even before you watched I think.

I watch Smackdown on Staurday mornings because nothing else is on, and some of the twists are so ridiculous!

[camelfarmer]

...It's not? :(


hehe I knew youd do that!! No no no , its real.....Im a nasty boy trying to ruin your fun... :upset:

[brycey]

The WCW Cruiserweight division PWNED.

[Kif]

WCW going wasn't all bad, they did misuse a lot of talent (They had Bret Hart, Steve Austin, Cactus Jack and many more and really under used them) but they had the best cruiserweight division ever. I'm going to miss that, WWE doesn't put on matches like that.
But they did have some really good wrestlers as well. Sting, Harlem Heat, The Misfits, Chris Benoit and co until they moved and Jeff Jarrett. My friend has some WCW PPVs on video, they aren't bad. Although that 3 story cage match was pointless!

[brycey]

Although that 3 story cage match was pointless!
Truth.

I loved DDP. :)

Back in WCW, weren't loads of wrestlers members of the nWo? As opposed to like 5 in WWE.

[bass is good]

I remember all the brilliant WCW stars, but i can only remember one name - Sting. He was like Gene Simmond's wrestling persona.:cool:

And yeah, i liked Kane until he took his mask off and shaved his head.:upset:

[Kif]

Diamond Dallas Page, oh yeah! I hate that WCW was bought by WWE :angry:

[bass is good]

Truth.

I loved DDP. :)

Back in WCW, weren't loads of wrestlers members of the nWo? As opposed to like 5 in WWE.
Was i the only one who didn't understand nWo?
What was it all about?

[Kif]

Why does everyone hate Kane? He is exactly what WWE needs; a villian who doesn't turn into a *****

[Kif]

Was i the only one who didn't understand nWo?
What was it all about?
nWo tried to take over WCW in the beginning, when they had like 30 members. They completely trashed the stage and stuff. Then it died, and it came back as, wait; 4 members! I think that was just to rival DX from WWF though

[brycey]

Kane was teh PWN when he had his mask, and he was all mysterious. Now he's just kinda.. not teh pwn.

EDIT: Thanks Cky. :)

[Metallica6915]

Road Dogg is in some smaller wrestling league because he got fired from WWE (WWF at the time) because of drug abuse. It has got so stupid lately, I stopped watching it last year and it has continued to suck.

[Ganondorf]

I stopped watching ages ago.....but that Benoit's crippler cross face was teh pwn ;)

[bass is good]

walls of jericho>crippler crossface

[get_inside_03]

walls of jericho>crippler crossface

Cripper crossface is good to do on people when they arent expecting it .. I used to do it all the time to my brother

I watched it when it was the WWF ... I first watched it when I was 4 up until I was 15. (Is 17 now)
I saw some of the old classics when they done the 1993 world tour, I saw it at Wembley.
I dont watch it now as I think the new people like Randy Orton and John Cena (the new generation) are pure cack.
But through everything, I was majorly obsessed with The Undertaker, when he was the american badass...that was good times.. esp when DDP was stalking Sara.

[maxwell_1888]

It sucks right now at the moment. It's just love storylines and it's just pathetic. I stopped watching it a few years ago when the whole WCW, WWF combination began.

[brycey]

I'd pay to see 'Taker vs. Kane in a bra and panties match.

[dans107]

Wrestling used to own big time, then I went off it around 2000...but I've been watching it on and off for the past few weeks, it seems to be getting slightly better though.

It's more story lines than wrestling. Barely any gimmicks. Pah.

Oh, and Yokozuna and British Bulldog died (i can't remember who else was on your list).

Dan

[Jakobee]

I used to love wrestling but I stopped watching it around the time they stopped showing it on Ch 4. When I go round my cousins he has Sky so I sometimes watch it on there. I love it when Rey Mysterio fights, all that high flying stuff kicks ***.

[get_inside_03]

No one has mentioned it and I feel bad for the poor guy (well his lagacy anyway)

But another person who died who isn't on your or anyones list was -

Mr Pefect

[Volkert314]

X-Pac - was released
Jeff Hardy - Was released due to drug problems, talking about coming back
Mark Hendry - Injured, working in OVW
Road Dogg - Currently working in TNA
Ken Shamrock - Currently set up to fight in a UFC match
Steve Blackman - Running a hardware shop in Annvile, PA. Helping out Shamrock as well
Gangrel - Was in TNA, now working Indy Scene under Vampire Warrior


Did the following wrestlers die?

Ultimate warrior
Mr. Perfect
Yukozona
British Bulldog
Hawk (Or Animal)


All those Wrestlers have passed away(RIP) except for UW, only god knows what he's doing.

[Klown]

I still think wrestling is lame because its all so fake, maybe if people really got hurt and it wasnt just a big show i'd watch it some more...

[Volkert314]

I still think wrestling is lame because its all so fake, maybe if people really got hurt and it wasnt just a big show i'd watch it some more...

It's scripted and most of the moves are really done, the punches and kicks are of course scripted, but some of those moves actually hurt and are done for "real" as you put it

[Metallica6915]

The Rock is a douche now, which sucks because he was always the best good guy in wrestling. It's cool to see The Undertaker back to the evil one, he's so much more cool like that, now all he has to do is get his long hair back. Kane pwned until he took the mask off and shaved his head. He doesn't even have a messed up face...Stupid wrestling.

[brycey]

The McMahon vs. Austin rivalry was cool. :cool:

[chrisb7502]

Jeff Hardy was let go because of drug abuse.

Matt Hardy is still around.

Ken Shamrock left to go fight in UFC.

Steve Blackman disappeared I have no idea where he is.

Mark Henry is still around, they gave him a big push a while ago.

Road Dogg had a dispute with the WWE and quit to go wrestle in Jeff Jarrett's league. ICW I think.

X-pac also quit and is now wrestling in the same league.

Edge just came back a few months ago from being off with an injury for 2 years.

Kane is now obviously unmasked and can talk normally for some reason.

Undertaker was buried alive by Kane at Survivor Series in November and now returned as the dead man, but with a ****tier costume. And with Paul Bearer.

Austin was the co-GM of Raw until Survivor Series where his team lost this big match and he had to leave. I'm not sure if he's back or not, I havent watched in the last month or so.

The Rock drops in once in a while, as does Mick Foley, Mick Foley is retired, and The Rock is also retired and doing movies.

Uhh, there are a lot of new wrestlers you have to get used to, and there are some really stupid gimmicks at the moment.

ECW wrestlers are almost obsolete except for RVD which is very sad to see.

Booker T continues to get pushed although I hate him with a passion.

There, thats my wrestling update.

[brycey]

The Dudley's are still around too. They were ECW veterans.

[Jon]

Where did Golddust go?

And is the Undertaker and Kane still around?

[Jon]

Ooooh, and Kidman. Them four were my favourites.

[brycey]

Everyone has talked about The 'Taker and Kane. Of course they're still around.

[purplefeet]

How did the British Bulldog die??

I hope Jeff Hardy comes back. I use to like him. Maybe I would watch now and again if he was on.

[Ganondorf]

did The Rock quit?

[Vitriolic Rage]

Yeah, what happend to The British Bulldog? He was one of my faves.
When I used to be into wrestling, my faves were:

The Rock
Trish Stratus:naughty:
Kane
Undertaker

I stopped watching it when I was 13-14, it just became really crap and I didn't find it interesting anymore. It's really crap now.

[guitarded_chuck]

I used to be a huge wrestling addict back in the days of the Hart Foundation against Shawn Micheal's crew. It was great back then. It seems to be going downhill since the people from that time started too retire. I haven't paid much attention to it for a few years.

[el doctor]

According to my friend who actually knows what he's talking about:

X-Pac: personal problems involving drugs and his on and off girlfriend (who happens to be chyna)
Jeff Hardy: drug problems - he refused to go to rehab and he was also getting sloppy in the ring so he was released, he worked in RoH a few times and is rumored to come back sometime in the near future
Mark Henry: currently recovering from a recent surgery he had
Road Dogg: fired because of personal/drug related problems
Ken Shamrock: not completely sure, but i do know that he was injured for awhile but then wrestled in the beginning of tna and also recently recovered from an injury. he's supposed to shootfight tito ortiz in ufc sometime within the next few weeks (i think)
Steve Blackman: he retired because of some sort of surgery, but he's currently thinking about making a comeback
Gangrel: not sure where he is now

Edge and christian split as a team because they were a well accomplished team and went on to become singles wrestlers seperately on different brands. (edge=smackdown, christian=raw). however, edge recently came back from a 14-month recovery from neck surgery and is on the raw brand now.

Ultimate warrior: didn't die... it was a fake rumor a long time ago
Mr. Perfect: drug related death
Yukozona: heart attack (he was a big guy :p)
British Bulldog: heart attack
Hawk: died recently, but i'm not sure what it was specifically of

Also, Jeff Jarret's promotion is NWA TNA, not ICW.

Goldust was also recently fired.

Goldberg didn't renew his contract with the WWE so parted ways and Austin also parted ways as of now.

[brycey]

Mr Perfect died too. Don't forget him. :(

[TragicPsycho]

yea, I still watch it now and then. I was at Nitro when Goldberg first won the World Heavyweight title in 1998, it was sweet

[Jon]

What happened to Owen Hart? I was so young at the time...

[The JoZ]

Owen Hart fell from the ceiling and hit his head on the turnbuckle and was killed. Very tragic death. At a PPV event no less

I started watching in 1999 and it was the sh*t back then...but recently it's started to suck

I've seen it three times, and each was a great show...The Great American Bash is going to be held right here too...whoo

[jonty]

thing is if you only see smackdown or raw you fink the guys in the otehr show have akll been fiered or are dead cso you never see them

[get_inside_03]

Yukozona: heart attack (he was a big guy :p)


He died when he was in London (or Liverpool, i forget). They said that he had a heart attack becuase he saw a spider in his hotel room.
Where he was so scarred of spiders and he had no one there to get rid of it, it scarred him so much he had a heart attack.

[Element86]

I heard Yokozuna died after eating a fried egg.....just ate it and had a heart attack The spider thing does give a funny mental image though....RIP Yoko.

Not sure if anyone mentioned it but Crash Holly also died recently. At some party at Stephen Richards' (remember Right To Censor) house he threw up and choked on his own vomit.

**** I haven't watched wrestling in so long. I thought the whole split of Smackdown and Raw was crap. Stephanie McMahon is still teh h0tzorz though. wooof.

[Volkert314]

I heard Yokozuna died after eating a fried egg.....just ate it and had a heart attack The spider thing does give a funny mental image though....RIP Yoko.

Not sure if anyone mentioned it but Crash Holly also died recently. At some party at Stephen Richards' (remember Right To Censor) house he threw up and choked on his own vomit.

**** I haven't watched wrestling in so long. I thought the whole split of Smackdown and Raw was crap. Stephanie McMahon is still teh h0tzorz though. wooof.

The next night at a house show, Stephen wore Holly's old t-shirt and got some loud pops(thought he was a heel)

[get_inside_03]

Have you noticed that alot of wrestlers die?
You dont get this many people dying in other proffessions such as football

[Jon]

Owen Hart fell from the ceiling and hit his head on the turnbuckle and was killed. Very tragic death. At a PPV event no less

I started watching in 1999 and it was the sh*t back then...but recently it's started to suck

I've seen it three times, and each was a great show...The Great American Bash is going to be held right here too...whoo

Is there a video of it? Like would it be on Limewire? Is there blood and gore?

[Brew]

^^Jon....you sicko...you want to see someone fall to their own death?

[Element86]

no videos of it. At the event (Over The Edge, not sure what year, not available to buy) Owen was being lowered into the ring during one of those little videos before the match showing the rivalry between the two competitors. That was just beginning and you heard JR saying that there was a problem.
When the video finished, the cameras focused on the crowd for about 15 minutes or so. Jerry Lawler went into the ring and came back to JR (understandably looking quite pale) saying it wasn't looking good. Later on JR announced to the TV audience that Owen had died. That was it. It was horrible.

[Brew]

^You can download JR saying that he had died...there may be some bootlegs of him falling somewhere but most are fakes.

[Foreign Objects]

That would be weird to see someone fall and bash there head on a turnbuckle. WWE is only cool to watch when they hit each other with heavy things. I hate when they get in the ring and give speeches it's so cheap and annoying.

[brycey]

Is there a video of it? Like would it be on Limewire? Is there blood and gore?
You. SUCK. :angry:

[el doctor]

I don't remember where these came from so I can't give credit where it's due, but these are some pictures right before and after Owen Hart's fall. (Don't worry, no gore or anything)

http://img74.photobucket.com/albums/v224/eldoctor/Owen.bmp Owen minutes before drop
http://img74.photobucket.com/albums/v224/eldoctor/Owen1.bmp Fell from between 85 and 100 feet at 80km/h or 50mph
http://img74.photobucket.com/albums/v224/eldoctor/Owen2.bmp
http://img74.photobucket.com/albums/v224/eldoctor/Owen3.bmp

edit: sorry they were resized, I ran out of web space everywhere else :o

[Kif]

I didn't know much about the Owen Hart thing, but I know the outline and it's sad that something like that can happen.

This one's for you, Owen

/me opens beer

On a side note, I finally found out where el doctor's avatar is from :eek:

[AMAC]

For the love of god cky2k... tell...

[Kif]

Well, on my random visits to This and That forums, generally looking for free porn, there was this post with random pictures, and I found this in there:

http://natrik.dv8.org/pub/underwear!/Kristin%20Kreuk%20underwear.jpg

And I thought "OMGWTF! That' el doctor's avatar!" Yeah, now that I think about it it's kinda sad that I can recognize people's avatars when I see them floating around the internet in different forms.

[el doctor]

Yup, it's Kristin Kreuk. Some people actually recognized that from the Smallville episode. The full gif looks like this:
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TAAAAKoXI5MqGoGrz1rrZOIFgweArmpdPCzS*HyEfPG2oqyjA xNkvn12LywuhLhepJS8ldd95600vNw9!YlaBU27OlyvTXXmMKx DyUTNjA8nPWFA89PioQ/fc8d353c.gif?dc=4675473869510382174
;)

[AMAC]

Wow. She is unbelievably hot.

[brycey]

El Doctor, just looking at those pics made me really sad. :(

[dudeness]

it isint unreal its just scripted

[brycey]

Well done Captain Obvious.

*begins slow clap*

[el doctor]

it isint unreal its just scripted
:rolleyes: What are you talking about? The wrestlers are actually very highly advanced forms of CG. Quite impressive if you ask me.

[Kif]

it isint unreal its just scripted
What's that sound? I think that's the sound of no one caring...

*joins in slow clap*

[brycey]

What's that sound? I think that's the sound of no one caring...

*joins in slow clap*
:lol:

*continues slow clap*

[CLiFFBurToN323]

what ever happened to dink and doink?

[brycey]

Doink The Clown?

[JAStewart]

Yeah. Probably faded away...

Whats Bret Hart upto these days?
Whats Tatanka upto these days?
Whats Bam Bam Bigelow upto these days?
Whats Godfather upto these days?
Whats Mideon and Vicera upto these days?
Whats 8-Ball, Skullz and Chainz upto these days?

[ATC]

i used to watch wwe just to see chris jericho talk trash and for the random bra and panties matches. lita is hott.

ps: these people may no longer be with wwe..i quit watching ages ago.

[Brew]

Bret Hart could well be back in Wwe this year if all goes well.
Mideon could be making a return soon, he was supposed to be about for the Kane/Undertaker thing at Wrestlemania XX.

Thats about all I know JAStewart.

[bobbyshearer]

I have been watching wrestling for 7 years and i noticed that alot of people left and alot of people came in. The thing that annoys me is the rock because he comes back from one raw and gos again then comes back to raw in like a couple of months thats stupid he should either stick with wrestling or go do his movie thing and not do both at the same time. Where is goldberg at the moment or lesner for that matter. We not seen them since wrestlemania. whats up with stone cold why did he leave and why is kane taken of his mask. My favourite wrestler was ken shamrock whats come of him and Ahmed Johnson or whats happened to the ultimate warrior is he dead. Why is kurt angle not wrestle any more and why is he the new smackdown general manager. What is it with smackdown its getting worse Eddie Guerrero the champion hes only a lightweight and he is crap. Whats up with Bradshaw he used to be a big tough guy no he is a sissy with lots of money. Why wont Ric Flair retire hes too old and wrinkly to wrestle and why have they stopped king of the ring that was good. And where is Bret Hart i thought he was going to make a return.

[Brew]

Where is goldberg at the moment or lesner for that matter. We not seen them since wrestlemania. whats up with stone cold why did he leave

Lesnar and Goldberg both quit after 'Mania...Goldberg because they couldn't come to an agreement about his contract and Lesnar because he didn't want to get put in a feud with the Undertaker (the plan was for 'Taker to kill him) and he couldn't handle the travelling.

Stone Cold left because....I forget why he left, I think it was another domestic he had with his girlfriend and he got fired, I think he's in talks with Vince about coming back soon.

Why is kurt angle not wrestle any more

His neck is screwed up too much.

[Volkert314]

Whats Bret Hart upto these days? Retired after being kicked in the head by Goldberg. Goldberg tore a muscle in his neck after he messed up a kick. He also had a stroke shortly after that. He's currently residing in his hometown.

Whats Tatanka upto these days? No idea, but I belive he passed away, but I could be wrong.

Whats Bam Bam Bigelow upto these days? Finally retired. A few years ago was praised for running into a burning building and rescuing 2 children that were inside. Recieved burns on most of his body.

Whats Godfather upto these days? Was released by the WWE and is now working the Indy Scene

Whats Mideon and Vicera upto these days? Both I belive are working the Indy Scene.

Whats 8-Ball, Skullz and Chainz upto these days? No idea, they were never good.

[ATC]

are chris jericho, benoit and lita still around?
is jeff hardy going to make a comeback?

[Volkert314]

are chris jericho, benoit and lita still around?
is jeff hardy going to make a comeback?

Y2J is currently on RAW and yes is still kicking ***.

Benoit is currenty the World Champion(on RAW) and is in a fued with Kane

Lita is still around and is dealing with Kane( i don't know)


Jeff Hardy is in talks to come back, but things are moving slow since he still refuses to go to rehab

[JAStewart]

God **** Jeff Hardy hurry up and come back.

1998-1999 = Best years in WWF history.

1998
Austin winning 98 rumble
Austin about to be sweet chin musiced and catches Shawns foot and spins him around a stunners him
Mankind and Undertake in Hell In A Cell

1999
Edge & Christain vs The Hardys

[AfroMan]

hehe haven't watched the wrestling in about 5 years.


Does anyone remember conan from the WCW? Anyone know what happened to him? Did he start his rap career:lol:?

[Devil Inferno]

did The Rock quit?

no, he came back with mick foley for the rock and sock connection.

I still think wrestling is lame because its all so fake, maybe if people really got hurt and it wasnt just a big show i'd watch it some more...

so what if its fake, they are VERY VERY GOOD actors.

[Volkert314]

hehe haven't watched the wrestling in about 5 years.


Does anyone remember conan from the WCW? Anyone know what happened to him? Did he start his rap career:lol:?


Konan is currenty in TNA working with Road Dogg Jesse James and The Truth Ron Killings, they are known as 3 Live Kru.

[brycey]

I loved the 1998-1999 years too JAS. They were the best. The first events I ever watched were the Royal Rumble and St. Valentine's Day Massacre.

Back in the days when Stephanie was hot. Now she just isn't.


My favourite wrestler was probably Shane McMahon, because whenever you saw him in a match, he was always jumping off stuff, and tried to entertain the fans as much as possible. Remember Summerslam when he fought Steve Blackman for the belt? Right off the stage.

[get_inside_03]

My favourite wrestler was probably Shane McMahon, because whenever you saw him in a match, he was always jumping off stuff, and tried to entertain the fans as much as possible. Remember Summerslam when he fought Steve Blackman for the belt? Right off the stage.

Wow its like one mind. If I was loving Undertaker it was Shane McMahon!
Was that match where Shane climbed right up to the top of the areana and jumped down? if so that was a classic.

But Shane wasnt the only one who used to throw his body about, there was always Mick Foley.

[brycey]

Wow its like one mind. If I was loving Undertaker it was Shane McMahon!
Was that match where Shane climbed right up to the top of the areana and jumped down? if so that was a classic.

But Shane wasnt the only one who used to throw his body about, there was always Mick Foley.
Yeah that was the match. Also credit to Mick Foley for the Hell In A Cell etc.

Something I loved a few years ago, was the 24/7 hardcore rule, and the Mean Street Posse always tried to win it in random places. That was pretty funny. Also, the 15 minute timed matches with like 10 guys.

[get_inside_03]

The best one for that was at Wrestlemania 16, "First-ever-13-man hardcare battle royal for The Hardcore title"

[brycey]

The best one for that was at Wrestlemania 16, "First-ever-13-man hardcare battle royal for The Hardcore title"
Truth. I think Crash walked out with the belt at that one. Him or Hardcore Holly.

[Kif]

It's weird that most of the good times were when WCW and ECW were around. Now that they are gone, there's no one to compete with, so match ratings are falling rapidly

[Volkert314]

It's weird that most of the good times were when WCW and ECW were around. Now that they are gone, there's no one to compete with, so match ratings are falling rapidly


Yea, most of us agree with that. Vince has no competition so He's not even trying anymore, which is really kinda sad

[get_inside_03]

I agree, as they have no other big business to compete with, they dont have to spend out too much money on big stars or even making half decent matches.

[dans107]

Man, this thread has brought back so many good memories.

I remember watching Wrestling, and my cousin originally getting my into it.

When Owen died, that sucked so hard. It was round the time of the whole Blue Blazer (that really doesn't sound right, his alter-ego thing when he first joined) thing was going around for the second time, and people were imitating it.

As far as I'm aware, no one's mentioned Ric Flair. Now for his age, he is one hell of a wrestler. Some of the falls and bumps he can pull off are amazing.

Mick Foley was a great wrestler also, he could take so much it was unbelievable.

Bret still owns the majority of wrestlers. He had the charisma, the skill, the talent, everything.

I remember when Diesel - another awesome wrestler - was kicking his ***. He put him between his legs for the Jacknife, and Bret's body was limp. He went to powerbomb him and Bret did the cradle thing, and pinned him.

Shaun Michael's has had some great times in the WWF too.

When he kicked Marty Janetty through the pane of glass was a good show, as was when he finally one the World Championship. I never get sick of watching that match.

DX ruled too. The original DX was awesome, HHH, HBK, X Pac and the New Age Outlaws. Man, that was awesome.

The whole Corporate Ministry thing was good times too.

Well, sorry for that outburst, I just had a load of good memories coming back :)

Dan

[brycey]

I miss the whole DX vs. The Corporation thing. :upset:

[dans107]

:upset:

Twas good times, twas :(

Dan

[brycey]

Anyone remember the J.O.B Squad? Al Snow pwned.

[Yatty]

Who saw wrestlemania 20? I taped it.

I was soooo looking forward to see The Rock and Mick Foley kick Evolutions butts, but it didn't happen :upset:

And who can forget the match between HBK, HHH and Benoit? It should of been HBK that won that one. :upset:

OOOOOOHHH and the playboy evening gown match....:naughty:

[dans107]

Anyone remember the J.O.B Squad? Al Snow pwned.

:lol:

And Scorpion too (he bared a slight resemblance to Edgar Davids...)

Who else was in it?

Also, Right to Censor. They were good times :lol:

Dan

[LeperAffinity]

As for the wwe having no competition, I think I heard that NWA-TNA got a cable deal recently.

I still think wrestling is lame because its all so fake, maybe if people really got hurt and it wasnt just a big show i'd watch it some more...

If you only knew how many injuries these guys have, and that most of them wrestle with their injuries.

[the_uber_penguin]

They don't actually script the matches. Only who will win them. It's true that they rehearse the odd spot (a short sequence of moves), especially more major ones (Mankind being thrown off the cell vs. The Undertaker, twice) but otherwise they just see what the other is doing and go with it.

Does anyone know how I can watch wrestling in the UK?

[Brew]

They don't actually script the matches. Only who will win them. It's true that they rehearse the odd spot (a short sequence of moves), especially more major ones (Mankind being thrown off the cell vs. The Undertaker, twice) but otherwise they just see what the other is doing and go with it.

Does anyone know how I can watch wrestling in the UK?

Without Sky you got no chance....but on Sky Digital theres a Wrestling Channel showing stuff like NWA:TNA, ROH, FWA, CZW etc...channel 427 methinks.

[Jon]

^^Jon....you sicko...you want to see someone fall to their own death?
I sure diddly-do :)
You. SUCK. :angry:
:upset:

[bass is good]

Who remembers when Shane Macmahon had that fight with the big show, and he elbow dropped him from 70ft, or something rediculous like that?
That pwnd.

Can somebody please give me a brief outline of each of the other wrestling federations (past and present) and a couple of key things about them that may have made them different?
If someone could do that for me, i will send them a cookie.:)

[the_uber_penguin]

Without Sky you got no chance....but on Sky Digital theres a Wrestling Channel showing stuff like NWA:TNA, ROH, FWA, CZW etc...channel 427 methinks.

Thanks.

I don't have Sky :upset:

[the_uber_penguin]

Who remembers when Shane Macmahon had that fight with the big show, and he elbow dropped him from 70ft, or something rediculous like that?
That pwnd.

Can somebody please give me a brief outline of each of the other wrestling federations (past and present) and a couple of key things about them that may have made them different?
If someone could do that for me, i will send them a cookie.:)

I saw that! I think. Was that the one where Test interfered near the end, and Shane climbed up the TitonTron?

EDIT: Sorry for doing two posts like that.

If anyone can forgive me, do they have a tab for Kane's entrance music?

[Ganondorf]

Can someone please explain the different leagues? Like WWE, WCW etc....

Also, what's the difference between Raw and Smackdown?

[the_uber_penguin]

Can someone please explain the different leagues? Like WWE, WCW etc....

Also, what's the difference between Raw and Smackdown?

WWE and WCW are different organisations. They have different wrestlers, different philosophies. They compete to get the most viewers and highest attendance rates.

Raw is the WWE's flagship show. Most of the main action happens there and that is on Monday nights.

Smackdown the secondory show, with less action, less storyline progression, more family orientated wrestling.

[Volkert314]

To be all honest WCW doesn't exist anymore so it doesn't matter anymore.

RAW and Smackdown are two different brands right now with their own seperate champions

[Raiven]

Without Sky you got no chance....but on Sky Digital theres a Wrestling Channel showing stuff like NWA:TNA, ROH, FWA, CZW etc...channel 427 methinks.

That channel is so awesome. I think I saw X-Pac in ROH with a few other people.

[Volkert314]

That channel is so awesome. I think I saw X-Pac in ROH with a few other people.

I can't wait to finally get the Wrestling channel...


Actually FOXSportsNet just signed up TNA so we get an hour of it starting June. :thumb:

[Ganondorf]

funny, when i watched it, there was only 1 champion for each title :confused:

[Brew]

That channel is so awesome. I think I saw X-Pac in ROH with a few other people.

I thought I saw him in CZW.(Combat Zone Wrestling, kinda like ECW)

D Lo Brown, Jerry Lyn, Raven are all in NWA:TNA.

[bass is good]

argh!! what is/are:
CZW
ECW
ECO
NWA:TNA
UFC
and any others you care to mention.
I might have made a couple of those up though.:confused:

[Brew]

argh!! what is/are:
CZW
ECW
ECO
NWA:TNA
UFC
and any others you care to mention.
I might have made a couple of those up though.:confused:

CZW - Combat Zone Wrestling - Like ECW
ECW - Extreme Championship Wrestling - Hardcore rules, no longer exists
ECO - :confused:
NWA:TNA - Jerry Jarretts company, NWA: Total Non-Stop Action, the newest rival to the WWE, trust me, it will go far.
UFC - Ultimate Fighting Championship.
ROH - Ring of Honor
FWA - Frontier Wrestling Alliance - A UK company

[joshuabaines]

Face it Wrsetling like Lord of the rings are designed for strange 45 year old men who live with there mums

[the_uber_penguin]

They are different federations (a federation or promotion (same thing) has its own roster of wrestlers, titles, style, philosophy, owner, bank account and TV shows). ECW doesn't exist anymore; it was bought out by WWE, and UFC is the Ultimate Fighting Chamionship. It is actually real fighting, not staged fighting.

Ken Shamrock was an ex UCF champion before joining WWE.

EDIT: Too late. I'll leave it up anyway. It may still be useful.

[Brew]

^Josh....I thought you hated this place and left? :confused:

Either way...get out of this thread moron.

[bass is good]

CZW - Combat Zone Wrestling - Like ECW
ECW - Extreme Championship Wrestling - Hardcore rules, no longer exists
ECO - :confused:
NWA:TNA - Jerry Jarretts company, NWA: Total Non-Stop Action, the newest rival to the WWE, trust me, it will go far.
UFC - Ultimate Fighting Championship.
ROH - Ring of Honor
FWA - Frontier Wrestling Alliance - A UK company
Ok, i think i made ECO up. Two more questions:
1)is UFC the one where they get hurt proper bad and you have to knock the other guy out or something?
2)WTF is ring of honour?
3)Does the NWA in NWA:TNA stand for Niggaz for life?

Edit: I can't count:upset:

[Brew]

Ok, i think i made ECO up. Two more questions:
1)is UFC the one where they get hurt proper bad and you have to knock the other guy out or something?
2)WTF is ring of honour?
3)Does the NWA in NWA:TNA stand for Niggaz for life?

Edit: I can't count:upset:

UFC is real yes, I haven't seen much of it though.

Ring of Honor is an indy company, its quite good - they shake hands before and after fights and its really good to watch. Paul London came from there(he's now in WWE)

NWA - National Wrestling Alliance...I think.

[bass is good]

UFC is real yes, I haven't seen much of it though.

Ring of Honor is an indy company, its quite good - they shake hands before and after fights and its really good to watch. Paul London came from there(he's now in WWE)

NWA - National Wrestling Alliance...I think.
I owe you a cookie.:)

[Brew]

I owe you a cookie.:)

w00t :cool:

[bass is good]

Gimme your address and i'll post it to you.:cool:

[Brew]

Gimme your address and i'll post it to you.:cool:

Only if its going to be a 'special' cookie...

[bass is good]

Just how special?

[Brew]

As special as you want it to be.

It could also have some magical elements thrown in for good measure.

[bass is good]

what if i just took a dump on it?

[Brew]

Yer, that'll do.

Could feed it to my cat then...or get it framed.

[sadisticmonkey]

until they bring back Tatanka....im not watching

[bass is good]

I'll do my best

[Element86]

Can you guys remember the first wrestling matches you watched? I remember I was like 3 or 4 years old, and WCW used to be on at like 2am on Friday night/Saturday morning and my mum would tape it for me and my brother.

The first match I ever saw waws Ron Simmons (Faarooq) fighting someone, and then the Z-Man Tom Zenk fighting Vinnie Vegas (Kevin Nash). Then there were all the other great fighters around that era like the original Sting with blonde hair (who had a stint with Big Van Vader), Big Josh, Chip The Firebreaker, and of course Ricky The Dragon Steamboat.

Apart from the good old days, I reckon the best era of wrestling was around the WWF's whole 'attitude' days with Stone Cold Steve Austin. Wrestlemania 15 and Royal Rumble 2000 are my two most favourite events ever.

Wrestlemania 15 just has such good matches and ace storylines - where HHH and Chyna betrayed DX, Nicole Bass appearing (hahahha), Butterbean KOing Bart Gunn, the Hell In A Cell with Undertaker and Big Boss Man was fun even though nothing good happened. The tag match - Jeff Jarret & Owen Hart VS D'Lo and Test is a great match too. The final of Stone Cold VS The Rock is brilliant though.

Royal Rumble 2000 was one of the first events I watched live and that was brilliant. The table match between Dudley Boyz and the Hardyz was classic - like the first time that the tables were used so insanely (Matt being powerbombed from the steel steps, and Jeff doing the swanton bomb onto like 3 tables from the entrance doorway).
The swimsuit contest was going swell until the end :upset: I had to see Mae Young's puppies...
The Cactus Jack VS HHH street fight was just ****ing incredible.

[brycey]

Wrestlemania 15 is my favourite event (I still have it on video) and it had my all-time favourite match:
4 Corner Elimination Match for the Intercontinental Championship.

Road Dogg (champ) vs. Goldust vs. Val Venis vs. Ken Shamrock

And one thing that ALWAYS annoys me about wrestling, is the habit that everyone insists on saying "STEEL CAGE" instead of just "Cage" and "STEEL STEPS" instead of simply saying "Steps".



EDIT: Element, Channel 4 did a HORRIBLE job censoring Mae Young flashing. :lol:

[JAStewart]

I know! I have that on video :spew:

Austin is the best.

Kane:

E-----------------
B-----------------
G-8-9-8-9-8-9-8-6
D-----------------
A-6-7-6-7-6-7-6-4
E-----------------

Mankinds music KICKED ***. especially, Cactus Jack, Dude Love and New Mankind (With shirt)

[JAStewart]

Favourite Wrestler(s): Stone Cold Steve Austin, Mankind, The Hardys & Edge.

Favourite Finishers: Swanton Bomb, Stunner, Sweet Chin Music & Ultimate Bomber Pin(Ultimate warrior)

Favourite Music: Austin, The 3 faces of Mick Foley ( minus old Mankind [1998])

Favourite Event: Royal Rumble 1998. Its just so good.

Favourite Match: No Mercy 1999 Edge and Christian VS The Hardys for $100,000 and Terri Dwyer, Undertaker vs Mankind King Of The Ring 1998 Hell In A Cell, Triple Threat Chris Beniot VS Triple H VS HBK for the title at Wrestlemania 20 & Austin VS HBK @ Wrestlemania 1998

Sexiest Diva: Terri, Torrie or Lita

Wrestlers I hate: Kurt Angle, The Rock [With a vengence], Triple Gay[H] (With a vengence)

Worst Match Ever seen: Goldberg VS Brock Lestner w/ Austin as special guest referee (Except the end when Austin stunnered both of them)

Best two years of wrestling: 1998 and 1999, When the rock was boo'ed.

[Everything_Must_Go_18]

Did everyone see Crash Holly died too? absolutely no joke either I was lookin on wwe.com and I noticed he wasn't on either roster, turns out he died this January just gone :-(

[Distorted Vision]

Bret Hart was my favourite wrestler ever. I still remember getting emotional when HBK beat him in the Iron Man match, but I never followed the 'screw job' storyline in the end.

Some of the best matches were between Undertaker and Mankind: Hell In A Cell (probably one of the best ever), Buried Alive, Boiler Room Brawl.

[Element86]

HAHAH I just remembered something when JAStewart mentioned Royal Rumble 98...anyone remember in the Rumble itself when Owen Hart was eliminated, he ran back up the aisle towards the entrance way holding a pair of crutches, and just fell through the entrance curtain as Ahmed Johnson came out? I don't know why but it ws hilarious.

Holy **** I agree with that too (JA) - the Brock Vs Goldberg match was so so bad, and at a Wrestlemania too. The best part was afterwards when Stone Cold was hit in the head by one of the flying beers.

Back to Wrestlemania 15 - yeah brycey that match was cool too, I forgot about that. It was great when Shamrock came back in the ring after he was disqualified and started slamming everyone.
Shamrock was such a good wrestler, what event was it at where he and The Undertaker had a great fight? Where Shamrock went to tombstone The Undertaker but he flipped over and reversed it?

Another thing about W15 - the first match for the hardcore title, Billy Gunn vs Al Snow
vs Hardcore Holly.
That was such a cool match that didn't drag on for ages. Best part has to be when Billy Gunn put the other two through some tables and went crazy doing the crotch-based 'suck it' sign dead fast and jumping up and down, haha. I'm gona have to watch it again, I have it on video too :)

Another all-time favourite match would have to be the boiler room brawl between Mankind and Big Show at one of the Backlash events. They went nuts, and there was so much blood.

I remember when Shawn Michaels disappeared for ages back mid-90s, but I never really had the chance to watch wrestling then, I just heard about it from my brother's friend who watched it on Sky.
I was never sure whether it was true or not.....but was the reason he disappeared because he was beat up by a bunch of thugs who nearly damaged his brain? I remember he had a comeback match or something against Owen Hart (maybe?) and he collapsed. Not sure if that was just one of the storylines or whether it was real.

[the_uber_penguin]

Bret Hart was my favourite wrestler ever. I still remember getting emotional when HBK beat him in the Iron Man match, but I never followed the 'screw job' storyline in the end.

Some of the best matches were between Undertaker and Mankind: Hell In A Cell (probably one of the best ever), Buried Alive, Boiler Room Brawl.

Just to let you know, that "screw job" was real. Bret Hart was told he was going to win, HBK was told he was going to lose. After the match Vince tried to calm HBK down (he was so pissed off for winning like that) he told Vince to leave his dressing room or get punched in the mouth.

Vince didn't leave, HBK punched him.

Foley went on strike for the next show, he got a several guys (Kane and a few others) to agree to not show up as well, but they all did anyway. Foley still got paid for that event (to his suprise) and no one held it against him (he was admired by the whole dressing room for his stand, especially by HBK. Vince knew what Foley was thinking, but he had to screw Bret (...that sounds wrong...) because otherwise Bret would have been poached by WCW and would defame the WWF World belt on Nitro (which had already been done to the WWF Women's) and that would have seriously hurt the ratings.

Just so you know.

[Kif]

O...k...

[Volkert314]

Just to let you know, that "screw job" was real. Bret Hart was told he was going to win, HBK was told he was going to lose. After the match Vince tried to calm HBK down (he was so pissed off for winning like that) he told Vince to leave his dressing room or get punched in the mouth.

Vince didn't leave, HBK punched him.

Foley went on strike for the next show, he got a several guys (Kane and a few others) to agree to not show up as well, but they all did anyway. Foley still got paid for that event (to his suprise) and no one held it against him (he was admired by the whole dressing room for his stand, especially by HBK. Vince knew what Foley was thinking, but he had to screw Bret (...that sounds wrong...) because otherwise Bret would have been poached by WCW and would defame the WWF World belt on Nitro (which had already been done to the WWF Women's) and that would have seriously hurt the ratings.

Just so you know.

Wrong, Bret Hart punched Vince in the mouth, he also spit in his face. And HBK wasn't pissed about winning like that, He was in on the whole entire thing.

[JAStewart]

Wresling matches are totally scripted by the way.

Imaging have to script a royal rumble.

It would be fun to script a hardcore match with Mick and Terry funk.

The hardys were insane. Did anyone see Jeff Hardy's interview on the Wresling Channel. Two hour interview! It was great! He says he's going to come back to the WWE.

Did anyone see at the Royal Rumble 2000 when Jeff Swanton Bombed White boy dudley through a table from the top or the titatron. He got some serious hang time there.

At Wrestlmania, one of the best matches was the cruiserweight title ten man elimination. Rey Mestrerio is a lunatic! I love the 619 (His finisher where he does the Hurricanarana from the top rope (Not turnbuckle).

I can't believe Eddie Guererro is the WWE champion, he's only a cruiserweight. I love that bit at the beginning of his song "Viva La RASA!"

The royal rumble 2001 and was pretty bad for super noticable mistakes. Jeff hardy dropkicks matt and is about {-----} that distance on the screen and Matt takes a few moments to react. Its quite funny.

I loved in the 2001 Royal Rumble when Drew Carrey is left in the ring and Kane comes in and Drew trys to get the Hardys back in the ring to help. JR: "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god". He looks so sinister. Kane deserves to win a rumble. Kane (With mask) is awesome. Now he just looks ****. And he talks normally.

What was the story behind what happened to Kane when he was 10?

I like the way on The Undertaker video (This Is My Yard) how he doesn't talk about wrestling seriously. And Jim Ross even admits "I didn't even know the Taker was going to throw him off the cage". Mankind broke a rib and punctured a kindey. And after that he was chokeslammed by Undertaker through the cage! Imagine landing on a punctured kidney and then chokeslammed onto tacks. The throwing off the cage wasnt particularily planned.

Ric Flair oughtta retire. Did you see on Wrestlemania 20 when Randy Gayton(Orton) was talking about Mick Foley, saying that his time is up and that he should retire, and who was standing next to him? The 62 (61 at the time) year old Nature Boy, Ric Flair. I laughed. I wish that The Rock and Mick would of won. The rock was cool at Wreslemania 20 because he wasn't cocky.

And at wrestlemania you saw Hurricane and Rosey! Yay! They rule!

I would consider the following ledgends that should have been on the hall of fame at wrestlemania:

I realise that some of these guys are dead but remember at Wrestlemania 20 they had people representing old timers that were dead like Junkyard Dog and Andre The Giant.

Mr Perfect
Hulk Hogan
Ultimate Warrior [If anyone can find him]
Bret Hart
Yukozona
Hawk And Animal < The two I have the most respect for.
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Tatanka
Macho Man Randy Savage
Honkey Tonk Man
Rowdy Roddie Piper
The Bushwhackers
Kevin Nash
Razor Ramone
Jake The Snake
Bam Bam Bigelow
The British Bulldog
Hillbilly Jim
Nicholia Volkoff
George 'The Animal' Steele
The Iron Shiek
1-2-3 Kid! Aka X-Pac!
Lex Luger
The Model
Crush

Greatest Intercontinental Champion Of All Time? Mr. Perfect.

[dans107]

Well I think I'm going to go out and by some old-school WWF video's later :cool:

Man, great thread JA.

Dan

[Distorted Vision]

Just to let you know, that "screw job" was real. Bret Hart was told he was going to win, HBK was told he was going to lose. After the match Vince tried to calm HBK down (he was so pissed off for winning like that) he told Vince to leave his dressing room or get punched in the mouth.

Vince didn't leave, HBK punched him.

Foley went on strike for the next show, he got a several guys (Kane and a few others) to agree to not show up as well, but they all did anyway. Foley still got paid for that event (to his suprise) and no one held it against him (he was admired by the whole dressing room for his stand, especially by HBK. Vince knew what Foley was thinking, but he had to screw Bret (...that sounds wrong...) because otherwise Bret would have been poached by WCW and would defame the WWF World belt on Nitro (which had already been done to the WWF Women's) and that would have seriously hurt the ratings.

Just so you know.


Yeah I knew it was a real thing, I just meant I wasn't foloowing wrestling at the time so I never found out about Bret's departure until a while afterwards. Thanks for the lowdown though, I read it a while back and it's a pretty interesting series of events.

Poor old Bret, he was the best. And it's kinda made worse by the overuse of the words 'screw' and 'screwjob' and 'screwing' whenever it's mentioned.

[the_uber_penguin]

Wrong, Bret Hart punched Vince in the mouth, he also spit in his face. And HBK wasn't pissed about winning like that, He was in on the whole entire thing.

I've checked the facts. You're right, Bret was the one who punched Vince, but HBK wasn't in it. His first words when he got backstage were "There is no way I'm accepting the ****ing belt like this. This is bull****!"

EDIT: Only two things are scripted about Wrestling matches. The winner and how (cheating, clean, DQ, count out, etc...)

Any further scripting is left down to the wrestler's themselves. For example, no one said to Mick Foley "How about Mark [Calloway, Undertaker] throws you off the cell!", Mick and Mark agreed to it before hand as a major "bump" but it wasn't scripted. Highflyers and quick wrestlers also tend to script certain "spots" (groups of moves, and counters) and even the order they come in, but the majority of matches are made up on the spot.

[Volkert314]

I've checked the facts. You're right, Bret was the one who punched Vince, but HBK wasn't in it. His first words when he got backstage were "There is no way I'm accepting the ****ing belt like this. This is bull****!"

EDIT: Only two things are scripted about Wrestling matches. The winner and how (cheating, clean, DQ, count out, etc...)

Any further scripting is left down to the wrestler's themselves. For example, no one said to Mick Foley "How about Mark [Calloway, Undertaker] throws you off the cell!", Mick and Mark agreed to it before hand as a major "bump" but it wasn't scripted. Highflyers and quick wrestlers also tend to script certain "spots" (groups of moves, and counters) and even the order they come in, but the majority of matches are made up on the spot.

I heard on one of the documentries, that he later admitted to knowing about the entire thing and was told to just act like he didn't know about any of it to lay some heat off of it's "golden boy".

[the_uber_penguin]

I heard on one of the documentries, that he later admitted to knowing about the entire thing and was told to just act like he didn't know about any of it to lay some heat off of it's "golden boy".

Does anyone speak this guys language?

Who is "he" (Mick Foley knew, Terry Funk knew, Mark Calloway [Undertaker] knew, to my knowledge no one else did. JR and Jerry Lawler acted like they didn't, that is what they are paid for)?

Oh, and the goozle (technical slang for chokeslam) wasn't meant to go through the cell. It did by mistake. If it were pre-planned Calloway would have thrown the chair he had just hit Foley with away so it wouldn't fall through as well and hit Foley. After the Undertaker-Michaels Hell in a Cell at Bad Blood they naturally assumed that the cell would hold.

After that, Foley was unconscience (although he was able to move around and wrestle, he has no memory of what he did, and only knows from watching videos - this is a specific type of unconsciousness) and Calloway "bottle fed" Foley (simple punches, an arm wrench with a walk along the rope which he "crotched" himself on) until he came round enough to wrestle reliably again. That bit could not have been pre-planned.

[el doctor]

You screwed Bret.

[Brew]

Oh, and the goozle (technical slang for chokeslam) wasn't meant to go through the cell. It did by mistake.

The part where they were walking to the announce table side of the cell, when 'taker put his foot through the cell, that wasn't planned - it took both wrestlers by surprise.

[satriani's the man]

roaddogg and some others like k-kwik,and a lot of others that u don't see nemore r in a league in nashville tennessee,which i am wanting to go to since i am like very close to there

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

X-Pac: He quit and joined TNA. I don't know why...

Jeff Hardy: He got fired for continuous tardyness and he failed a drug test

Mark Hendry: He's still wrestling :confused:

Road Dogg: He's long gone. I'm not sure where

Ken Shamrock: :lol: Guess why he quit; because he thought "The company was being taken over by females" :lol:

Steve Blackman: I don't care. I hate him

Gangrel: He quit :rolleyes:

Why did Edge and Christian split up as a team? Because Edge won King of the Ring in 2001(2?)

Why did the Hardys split? 'Cause Matt was jealous of Jeff 'cause he won the European Title

Did the following wrestlers die?

Ultimate warrior: No
Mr. Perfect: Yes
Yukozona: Yes
British Bulldog: Yes
Hawk (Or Animal): Yes

:)

[Brew]

Ultimate warrior: Yes
Mr. Perfect: Yes
Yukozona: No
British Bulldog: Yes
Hawk (Or Animal): Yes


Erm...that list is wrong...

Ultimate Warrior is still alive...somewhere
Mr Perfect, Yokozuna, British Bulldog and Hawk all died within the last 4 years.

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

Erm...that list is wrong...

Ultimate Warrior is still alive...somewhere
Mr Perfect, Yokozuna, British Bulldog and Hawk all died within the last 4 years.
Really? Oh, sorry.
/me edits

Thanks :-*

[JAStewart]

Did anyone watch the Jeff Hardy interview on The wrestling Channel?

Jeff is not a drug addict. He had the drug in his system that one time.

By the way HE'S COMING BACK! Right after he releases his album.

[JAStewart]

Yesterday I watched the 1999 Rumble, "Hell Yeah" and 1999 No Mercy.


Its hilarious the way the British Bulldog goes "Noo Measay" because he has a horrible english accent.

Thanks Dans!

Austin is the best, he held the title from Wrestlemania '99 - No Mercy 99.

Anyone got Smackdown 5? What a game.


Y'know on teh RAW arena where the commentators table is? I know how to get both tables and the ladder up there [normally you can only get one table up]

[dans107]

The thing with Austin, is that in WWF his wrestling was EXTREMELY limited. It was a mixture of kicks, punches and second rope moves.

This went for the Rock, except he had a few extra moves.

I don't know if anyone remembers, but I'm pretty sure something must have happened, because for about 2 months, Austin / Rock changed their styles a lot. They were doing suplex's, some subission moves and the Rock even learnt the sharpshooter. Which, for those of you who don't know, is the best submission move, ever ;)

*has fond memories of perfecting the sharpshooter on his brother*

:cool:

Dan

[JAStewart]

Ken Shamrock:
Steve Blackman:


Are now in the UFL, Ultimate Fighting League, which is real.

[JAStewart]

The thing with Austin, is that in WWF his wrestling was EXTREMELY limited. It was a mixture of kicks, punches and second rope moves.

This went for the Rock, except he had a few extra moves.

I don't know if anyone remembers, but I'm pretty sure something must have happened, because for about 2 months, Austin / Rock changed their styles a lot. They were doing suplex's, some subission moves and the Rock even learnt the sharpshooter. Which, for those of you who don't know, is the best submission move, ever ;)

*has fond memories of perfecting the sharpshooter on his brother*

:cool:

Dan


Its true. I loved Austin because of his 'bad ***' attitude even if his moves were limited. Luthes Press was a kick *** move.

Its thanks to Owen Hart that ****ed up a piledriver on Austin and ****ed Austins neck why his moves are limited.

I think that submissions like Mandible Claw and SLEEPERS ESPECIALLY are so crap. They are just boring. Submission moves that don't involve tapping out are crap.

I would love to go through a WWE table! I would love to be powerbombed through 6 set up 3 on top of each other.

[dans107]

I remember watching Jeff Hardy jump off the entrance way thing, onto about 3 tables I think it was.

I can't remember exactly what it was, or how high it was, but I remember thinking "Jeez man, that's ****ing high! He's gonna' get hurt bad..."

Dan

[JAStewart]

Whats your MSN dans.

Well the falls are obviously real. You cant fall off a cage without getting hurt, or enterance in that matter.

[dans107]

Yeah, I know they are real but, it must have been a good 20 or 30 feet up. And landing on his back, through 3 tables, jeez...

It's dans107@hotmail.com.

I'm at work though.

Dan

[JAStewart]

The table would surley break his fall a bit.

[Volkert314]

Does anyone speak this guys language?

Who is "he" (Mick Foley knew, Terry Funk knew, Mark Calloway [Undertaker] knew, to my knowledge no one else did. JR and Jerry Lawler acted like they didn't, that is what they are paid for)?

Oh, and the goozle (technical slang for chokeslam) wasn't meant to go through the cell. It did by mistake. If it were pre-planned Calloway would have thrown the chair he had just hit Foley with away so it wouldn't fall through as well and hit Foley. After the Undertaker-Michaels Hell in a Cell at Bad Blood they naturally assumed that the cell would hold.

After that, Foley was unconscience (although he was able to move around and wrestle, he has no memory of what he did, and only knows from watching videos - this is a specific type of unconsciousness) and Calloway "bottle fed" Foley (simple punches, an arm wrench with a walk along the rope which he "crotched" himself on) until he came round enough to wrestle reliably again. That bit could not have been pre-planned.

HBK knew the entire ****in' time and just pretended that he actually gave a ****.... can you understand it now...

[JAStewart]

What is all this Screwjob shiit about?

[Volkert314]

What is all this Screwjob shiit about?

read back a few posts... but to explain quick I'll do it...


Bret Hart had finally come to the decision to leave the WWE and Vince respected that. Hart was the WWE champion at the time and wanted to win the title in his hometown and than drop it to whomever on RAW the next night and give a final send off. Vince also agreed. Some time before the big event. Vince brought in a few of his major bookers, Earl Hebner(ref for the main event) and HBK.


During the match, HBK locked Hart in the Sharpshooter, like planned. From there, Hebner ran over, told the guy to ring the bell and award the match and title to HBK. Hebner tore out like a bat out of hell. This all happend while Hart reversed the move like they had planned. Both him and HBK had stunned looks on thier face(HBK knew though, just acting). Vince told HBK to take the title and go, which HBK did. Hart than procedded to spit in the face of Vince and leave the ring.


Backstage, Vince tried to talk to Hart, but got a big punch in the face in the process. There you go, a very brief description of the Screw Job

[Distorted Vision]

Which, for those of you who don't know, is the best submission move, ever ;)

*has fond memories of perfecting the sharpshooter on his brother*

:cool:

Dan


It's one of the best, but I preferred the Figure-Four leg-lock. My cousin taught me it when I was young and if anyone was ever stupid enough to let me do it on them, it hurt like a mofo.

But a lot of time when someone agreed to that or the sharpshooter, they'd back out because it looked like I was about to stamp on their crotch, when really all I wanted to do was break their legs. ;)

[dans107]

read back a few posts... but to explain quick I'll do it...


Bret Hart had finally come to the decision to leave the WWE and Vince respected that. Hart was the WWE champion at the time and wanted to win the title in his hometown and than drop it to whomever on RAW the next night and give a final send off. Vince also agreed. Some time before the big event. Vince brought in a few of his major bookers, Earl Hebner(ref for the main event) and HBK.


During the match, HBK locked Hart in the Sharpshooter, like planned. From there, Hebner ran over, told the guy to ring the bell and award the match and title to HBK. Hebner tore out like a bat out of hell. This all happend while Hart reversed the move like they had planned. Both him and HBK had stunned looks on thier face(HBK knew though, just acting). Vince told HBK to take the title and go, which HBK did. Hart than procedded to spit in the face of Vince and leave the ring.


Backstage, Vince tried to talk to Hart, but got a big punch in the face in the process. There you go, a very brief description of the Screw Job

I give it to you, you know your stuff. Best explanation yet.

And Distorted...I got the whole "You're going stand on my balls!!" thing too :lol:

I could never get the figure 4 leg lock down properly though, which I always got a bit pissed at.

Me and a friend used to play Wrestling pretty well, and just try to practice the moves instead of full on wrestling. We had this thing down where he ran up, jumped on my shoulders then kind of hurricanrana'd me down to the floor and then I'd flip and pin him.

I remember once we tried to do it at School, but for some reason I didn't go ahead with it and when he was on my shoulders I powerbombed him onto the grass. It was good times....for me, at least.

Another time (hey, I'm full of back-yard wrestling stories :lol: ), we were at School, me and a friend, both about 5'10" at the time, picked up are other friend to do like a double suplex thing. Except, he didn't go through with it and reversed it into a double DDT type thing. It hurt pretty bad but man, it must have looked soooo cool :cool:

Dan

[Volkert314]

I give it to you, you know your stuff. Best explanation yet.




Thank you for the compliment

[the_uber_penguin]

I remember I used to backyard wrestle with a friend on his trampoline. It was funny because he wasn't strong enough to pick me up, yet his "finisher" was a powerbomb. We never did it real, we always faked it (with the help of "The Secrets of Pro Wrestling") and we planned who'd win (there was a third person as well) but it was fun.

I was the one who could take bumps, being hit by chairs (or books...), thrown off the trampoline onto the cold, but slightly soft grass floor.

Fun times.

[Element86]

Yay play wrestling was so much fun, and probably so dangerous. I hurt several friends with various manouevres during our lunchtime wrestling battle royals (about 20 of us on the field doing moves and trying to throw each other down the grass banks).

I pulled someones tooth out doing the Mr Socko, made two guys in a row cry with full nelsons, made someone go dribbling-insane and red in the face with the ankle lock, and then there was the funny time where I snuck up on someone and did the stone cold stunner. I'm not boasting by the way.....just saying.
I had my share of pain aswell :) my friend nearly gave me a concussion doing Booker-T's move.....what's it called.....where you kick them in the back of the head when they're bending over. Plus I must have been Pedigree'd about 50 times.

Did anyone else used to have royal rumbles with their wrestling figures, where you'd just stuff them ALL (probably like 50 of them) in the ring at the start and just shuffle them around a lot and make those "woaahh" "ohhhh" commentator noises until about 10 fell out?

Maybe it was just me :upset:

[SpazzMan]

^ You're not alone man :upset:

[Distorted Vision]

Plus I must have been Pedigree'd about 50 times.

Did anyone else used to have royal rumbles with their wrestling figures, where you'd just stuff them ALL (probably like 50 of them) in the ring at the start and just shuffle them around a lot and make those "woaahh" "ohhhh" commentator noises until about 10 fell out?

Maybe it was just me :upset:

:lol:




Yeah I did that too. :upset: I took my commentating in singles matches very seriously.

p.s. the Pedigree is the worst move ever, it was just crap. But the Tombstone, now that was a good move, especially when he then crossed their hands over their chest for the pin. :evil:

[AMAC]

When people talk about wrestling they always talk about the Attitude days with The Rock, Austin, Foley, DX....

The best days were the ones before, with all the gimmicks.

HBK being the "sexy boy" was the best ever. He did the dance in the ring and ripped off the diamond-studded clothes and ****. I idolized that man.

The Million Dollar Man Ted Debiasi was great too... he just payed everyone off.

Doink and Dink were the ****.

Bam Bam Bigelow was great.

The original Undertaker- the dead man. Not this American Badass crap. The Undertaker with the really pale face who could sit up after getting two Bonzai Drops from Yokozuna...

Yokozuna... oh man. The guy was HUGE. He was great for the company.

Lex Luger... the All-American with the metal plate in his forearm. The "bad" announcer would always call it a foreign object and get all pissed off when Luger won. Good times.

RAZOR RAMONE. This guy oozed machismo. He's ****ing great. Him and HBK made the ladder match what it is today. If it weren't for this guy wrestling would be nothing today.

Diesel was great.

King Mabel was awesome.

Bret Hart as a good guy was always a lot of fun. His entrance music with the wailing guitar note intro was ****ing genious.

The Bushwackers! Yeaaay! *licks your head*

Goldust. Sweet. His music was cool too.

Rowdy Roddy Piper was ****ing AWESOME. His streetfight with Goldust was the first hardcore match where wwf went all out. They started outside in an alley. It was great, they used a firehose and everything. Nothing like that had ever been done in the WWF before these guys.

1-2-3 Kid was always a lot of fun to watch... but he lost every match. Doh.

The Body Donnas were a cool team. And they had Sunny. :naughty:

Speaking of Sunny....
What ever happened to her?

Back when HHH was a prude and he had a new woman every show.

Who am I missing?

THESE were the golden days of Wrestling, my friends.

[Distorted Vision]

Sable, back in the day, was the hottest WWF chick ever.

Looking back, Diesel was great, especially fighting the Undertaker.

But special props have to go to Jimmy 'Superfly' Snuka, that guy was great.

[el doctor]

http://rajah.com/wwf/other/97screwjob.htm

The most in depth and true story of the screwjob, although I doubt any of you will want to read it all.

[dans107]

Amac - yeah man, we know, we know :cool:

I remember when HHH came in...he's gained a helluva lot of muscle since he first joined as that snooty guy.

And I remember the whole build up to Mankind's entry. When they had the 'advertisements' of him in the boiler room / cell with rats and that.

Does anyone remember when Undertaker supposedly 'died' ?

Also, when Droz was supposed to have fell from the titantron but it was so obvious it was a prop?

And Element...I used to do that too :upset:

My Brother had the whole titantron thing :cool:

Dan

[dans107]

:eek:

I just remembered about a few Royal Rumbles (thanks to the site El Doctor gave ;))

You guys remember when Bret and Lex both won the Royal Rumble?

Also, when HBK got pushed over the top rope, but only one foot touched the floor?

Could someone clear this up for me - I remember one time when one person had thought they had won the Royal Rumble and stood on the turnbuckle but then the other person came in an knocked them off, over the top rope. Who was this?

Was it Bret and HBK? I can't remember, these names just ring a bell. Although, so does Jeff Jarret...

Was it part of what I mentioned about HBK above?

Dan

[AMAC]

I think it may have been HBK and the British Bulldog...

[Joey Hoser]

I think it may have been HBK and the British Bulldog...

You are correct.

[Ganondorf]

hey, I watched WWE for the first time in years today (When i watched it, it was WWF)......why are Shawn Micheals (I think he's HBK) and Triple H going at each other? thanks

[dans107]

They've been going at it, on and off, since they started...this time though, I don't know :(

I'll ask my Brother when he comes in, he still watches it now.

Dan

[JAStewart]

Hell In A Cell
June 18th
Bad Blood
Shawn Michael VS Triple Gay. To end it all.

Gaydust? I hated him. He just genrally pissed me off.


Vader, he was cool.

The Legion Of Doom, Hawk and Animal. Best tag team ever!

Ted Dibiase pissed me off a bit, he was so cheap, if you know what I mean.

Did you know Papa Shango, Kama, Godfather, Goodfather were all the same guy.

By the way, entire matches ARE scripted. Hulk Hogan and Bret Hart even say so on the biography channel.

DX Members that were cool: X-Pac, Billy Gunn, Shawn Michael, Chyna
DX Members that were gay: Road Dogg, Triple H.

Minestry members that were cool: Undertaker, Edge, Christian, Gangrel
Minestry members that were gay: Big Boss Man

Corperate members that were gay: All of them. Especially Rock.

One helluva great line said by Austin was "Vince MacMahon just said I just pissed my pants".

Austin VS Vince thing kicked ***.

Elimination chambers are kick ***.

[dans107]

By the way, entire matches ARE scripted. Hulk Hogan and Bret Hart even say so on the biography channel.

I think they were fully scripted 'back in the day'.

However, it's hard to believe with all the high flying matches, etc, that they can script it all before hand.

I'm not saying they don't, I just find it hard to believe.

Dan

[Brew]

Some matches are fully scripted, but some of the matches they do at house shows (events not shown on tv) are talked through as the match goes on. They probably do this so that when it comes to RAW/Smackdown or a PPV the wrestlers have a good idea of how they work together and know what spots they can do to look good/get a good crowd reaction.

[RNR]

I watch when I can. Smackdown is getting uber lame though.

[Ganondorf]

When I watched it there was only one of each title.

[itsme]

I watch when I can. Smackdown is getting uber lame though.
yea. the announcers are well annoying with "the crowd is chanting kurt sucks" everytime the crowd says something like that. i much prefer raw myself.

[brycey]

I remember when I used to watch it, we were DESPERATE for Sky to show "Heat", but they never did. A match me and my friends always wanted to see was the "Half-Time Heat" thing, with The Rock vs. Mankind for the championship. It was around the Royal Rumble 1999 era.

[itsme]

I remember when I used to watch it, we were DESPERATE for Sky to show "Heat", but they never did. A match me and my friends always wanted to see was the "Half-Time Heat" thing, with The Rock vs. Mankind for the championship. It was around the Royal Rumble 1999 era.
yea i remember that. those were the good ol' days.

[brycey]

The good ol' days. Now it's the boring, repetative and frankly **** days.

[itsme]

The good ol' days. Now it's the boring, repetative and frankly **** days.
yes indeed.

[Chanandler Bong]

Indeed. I started watching in Febuary again, I quickly lost interest after Backlash.

[Volkert314]

Some matches are fully scripted, but some of the matches they do at house shows (events not shown on tv) are talked through as the match goes on. They probably do this so that when it comes to RAW/Smackdown or a PPV the wrestlers have a good idea of how they work together and know what spots they can do to look good/get a good crowd reaction.

yea, the shorter matches are basically fully scripted.

Endings are scripted as well as some of the high points of the match. When you have 2 Veterans in the ring, they'll only script a few portions of the match and play the rest by hear by how the crowd reacts to it.

When the Rock and Austin went at it, most of the match was done by ear cause those two work really well off each other. Also, it was the Rock that suggested that they kick out of one another's moves to put both of them over and to send the crowd into a gigantic frenzy, which it did.

[brycey]

Is Austin still around?

[Brew]

Nope, he quit/got fired after beating up his girlfriend.

Him and Vince have had conversations about him coming back but they couldn't reach a deal and I think Austin was getting bored with his character.

[Volkert314]

Nope, he quit/got fired after beating up his girlfriend.

Him and Vince have had conversations about him coming back but they couldn't reach a deal and I think Austin was getting bored with his character.

yea, somthing like he said, he was originally fired for domestic abuse, came back and than contract nagotiations between Vince and Austin's Lawyer was coming to nothing, but a standstill so Vince said screw it.


He left about 2 months ago and I haven't really missed him all that much.

[brycey]

Back in the good ol' Corporation days, with the Austin/McMahon rivalry. Now THAT was cool.

[el_doctor]

He left about 2 months ago and I haven't really missed him all that much.
I've honestly liked Raw better without him. Now there's some variation, rather than Austin always coming out in the last 5 minutes on his quad to settle a dispute and drink beer.

[Volkert314]

I've honestly liked Raw better without him. Now there's some variation, rather than Austin always coming out in the last 5 minutes on his quad to settle a dispute and drink beer.

Yea, he basically got useless and they just wanted ratings so they gave him a cheap *** gimmick. Granted, it was a good gimmick at times, but still, it got boring and old.


Now, with the Rock, it's different, cause he comes in every once and awhile, but when he does, he makes the most of it and it's always grand.


I can't complain too much, Eddie and Benoit are champs so I'm happy.

[el_doctor]

That segment with the Rock and Eugene was pure ownage. ;) I still find it funny how I first see things saying "Nick Dinsmore's Eugene character has been well received at house shows and people find him quite funny". I never thought that his character would be a retard who can wrestle though. :p

[Volkert314]

That segment with the Rock and Eugene was pure ownage. ;) I still find it funny how I first see things saying "Nick Dinsmore's Eugene character has been well received at house shows and people find him quite funny". I never thought that his character would be a retard who can wrestle though. :p

Yea, we were pissed off with that, but we gave it time to see if they ****ed up his skills, but they didn't so that's cool. He really gets over with the fans and having Regal there is also great(I love Regal).

Those two make me laugh...

Rock: "Who's the man standing with you?"
Euene: "The Rock"
Rock: "Who's your best friend?"
Eugene: "The Rock"
Rock"Who's the greatest wrestler of all time?"
Eugene: "HHH"*spits water*

[Kif]

Back in the good ol' Corporation days, with the Austin/McMahon rivalry. Now THAT was cool.
I never got that. I can't remember much, but I remember it being Vince, and I just thought "WTF!"

I remember that gauntlet thing Triple H had to do for something, like 7 matches or something? And he had an Inferno match with the old Kane (the one who kicked ***!). Triple H ruled back then, but now he's just a retard.

But Kane still rocks!

[get_inside_03]

Kane was way better when he had his mask on.
I think he had better story lines when he did

[Kif]

I always liked the "bad guy" though. In the days of the McMahon/Helmsley thingy, I loved DX. I prefered The Undertaker as the badass dude who was all black and stuff. The biker Undertaker sucked in my opinion. And like I say, Kane has always rocked.

[get_inside_03]

Undertaker was at his best when he was The Phenom, were he was total gothic and all about "the dark side" ... or he was at his best when he was the total American Badass. He was good then :cool: He whooped alot of people. Like at Wrestlemania 17 with his match again Triple H .. man he got whooped!!!

[Chanandler Bong]

Nope, he quit/got fired after beating up his girlfriend.

Him and Vince have had conversations about him coming back but they couldn't reach a deal and I think Austin was getting bored with his character.

He smacked around his girl AGAIN? :O

[brycey]

What happened to the King Of The Ring? :eek:

On June 27, it's "The Great American Bash".

Wasn't that an old WCW event? :confused:

[el_doctor]

King of the Ring was replaced with Bad Blood.

Great American Bash was a WCW ppv. This year they have it as a Smackdown event.

[Brew]

King of the Ring went last year because it lost its appeal apparently.

The Great American Bash is an old WCW event, I think WWE is having ''Halloween Havoc'' sometime this year aswell.

[brycey]

Pfft. WWE officially sucks now. If they ever get rid of the Royal Rumble, I will NEVER watch it ever again.

[JAStewart]

Yeah. The Royal Rumble alone is the best match in the WWE history.

Wrestlemania is good, what with all the title matches and stuff.

The Rock was cool at Wrestlemania this year.

I'll tell you who is cool... THE HURRICANE AND ROSEY! Yeah!

Whats up with the whole Lita - Kane thingy, by the way?

[dans]

How come they changed Summer Slam? (or was it Wrestlemania...)

I mean, where they had 4 teams of 4, in each corner.

I looked forward to that nearly as much as Royal Rumble :eek:

Dan

[JAStewart]

A sixteen-man match!?

[dans]

Yeah.

It was a big tag team type thing going on.

Man, get some real old school fans in here, n00b.

:p

Dan

[dans]

Ok I'm looking for the results of that match I was on about...and I can't find anything :confused:

Someone tell me I'm not dreaming and that there were matches were there were 4 people in each corner and that I just haven't searched properly?

:(

Dan

[Volkert314]

Ok I'm looking for the results of that match I was on about...and I can't find anything :confused:

Someone tell me I'm not dreaming and that there were matches were there were 4 people in each corner and that I just haven't searched properly?

:(

Dan


a Tag Team? Cause they used to do that were they had 4 Teams, one on each turnbuckle and than they would tag in whoever they wanted and they would have to fight. It got really interesting and ammusing when they did it to members of the same team.

[Volkert314]

King of the Ring went last year because it lost its appeal apparently.

The Great American Bash is an old WCW event, I think WWE is having ''Halloween Havoc'' sometime this year aswell.

As far as the rumors are you're correct.

[His Curse (LT)]

I don't watch wrestling.
I used to watch it though when Lita was on!

:naughty:

[Volkert314]

I don't watch wrestling, I used to watch it when Lita was on though!

:naughty:

she still is on..... :confused:


but they changed her look... she's look really ****ed up now.. it's kinda sad

[His Curse (LT)]

Yeah, but I can't watch it now as I haven't got Sky anymore.
When I did have Sky though, I only really watched it when Lita was on!

[Vitriolic Rage]

Lita is teh hot:naughty:

[His Curse (LT)]

Amen to that!

:chug:

[dans]

a Tag Team? Cause they used to do that were they had 4 Teams, one on each turnbuckle and than they would tag in whoever they wanted and they would have to fight. It got really interesting and ammusing when they did it to members of the same team.

Umm...I'm not sure :upset:

I remember what you're talking about, because I remember when the Goodwins tagged each other in :lol:

However, I'm sure that there was something else - 4 vs 4 vs 4 vs 4. It was in tag team format, and when one was pinned, they got knocked out. Eventually leaving it 1 vs 1.

Dan

[Volkert314]

Umm...I'm not sure :upset:

I remember what you're talking about, because I remember when the Goodwins tagged each other in :lol:

However, I'm sure that there was something else - 4 vs 4 vs 4 vs 4. It was in tag team format, and when one was pinned, they got knocked out. Eventually leaving it 1 vs 1.

Dan

Maybe, I'm not sure....

Like, the closest thing I can even think of right now off the top of my head would be the Survivor Series where it was 2 teams going against each other and than if a guy got pinned he was eliminated from that team

[dans]

The reason I'm not just brushing this off as something I've dreamt, is because I remember playing the arcade game.

I'm sure it was Summer Slam.

I'm gonna' have to check see if I have it on video tonight.

Dan

[JAStewart]

Umm...I'm not sure :upset:

I remember what you're talking about, because I remember when the Goodwins tagged each other in :lol:

However, I'm sure that there was something else - 4 vs 4 vs 4 vs 4. It was in tag team format, and when one was pinned, they got knocked out. Eventually leaving it 1 vs 1.

Dan



Fatal-4 Way Tag Team Elimination match?

[JAStewart]

I can remember fatal 4 way elimination tag matches. At No Mercy 1999 Kane VS Faarooq VS Bradshaw VS X-Pac.

X-Pac won by X-Factoring Faarooq off the top rope.

[Ganondorf]

whos was in DX/what was their purpose?


I watched it mainly when HHH and Angle had a fued over Stephanie, and when Rikishi ran over Stone Cold Steve Austin.

[JAStewart]

DX consisted of:

X-Pac
Shawn Michaels
Road Dogg Jesse James
Badd *** Billy Gunn "Mr ***"
Hunter Herste Helmsly.

Their purpose was to piss off Undertaker and the corperation.

Man, that 6 man Hell In A Cell ruled!

[Ganondorf]

Who was in it again, I forget? I remember The Undertaker, and maybe The Rock....

[brycey]

Kane was the man. :cool:

Before he could suddenly talk and decide to show his face.