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Kif
03-03-2007, 02:06 PM
Last night's promo summed that up for me. It looks like Undertaker is going back to the truly evil style he had in the attitude era. That'd be great for another yearlong run.

I don't watch Smackdown, but if he does go back to the Ministry-style Undertaker, I might. I really did love Taker as a heel, with that awesome beard. I think he'll be one of those heels people actually cheer for, which is awesome.

AA-12
03-03-2007, 02:09 PM
That's what it looks like. The promo was in a dark graveyard and he was talking like he did back then.

Kif
03-03-2007, 02:18 PM
Yeah I just saw it on Youtube. Looks pretty cool, wonder if Paul Bearer will be coming back if he does.

AA-12
03-03-2007, 02:18 PM
That'd rule, haha.

Jom
03-03-2007, 02:30 PM
Yeah I just saw it on Youtube. Looks pretty cool, wonder if Paul Bearer will be coming back if he does.

Do you have a link? My Youtube skills suck.

I saw the Hardy/Mercury match, the cruiserweight match, and the triple threat MITB match, but missed the beginning and end.

AA-12
03-03-2007, 02:32 PM
I just looked but couldn't find it. I did find this though :lol:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iMiEYlDQe4Y

Kif
03-03-2007, 03:22 PM
Haha you guys suck at Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTMe3M2gHLQ

Jom
03-03-2007, 03:37 PM
Never mind, found it on the WWE site itself, haha.

encmetalhead
03-03-2007, 03:41 PM
taker deserves title though

simplephotographinthesun
03-03-2007, 06:36 PM
I just looked but couldn't find it. I did find this though :lol:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iMiEYlDQe4Y

:lol: :lol: :lol:

pure gold.

CityOfEvil
03-05-2007, 10:58 PM
So. Stone Cold is definitevly guest referee. I was so disappointed when I saw Foley.

HBK sucks! Cena got his back and he got cena's back like a half. He doesn't even turn to look at him. Hope Cena turn on HBK and that he will give him the beat of his life at WM23.

What the hell Khali had to come in Carlito/Flair match ??? I thought Kane would have appear but he doesnt.

This week Raw was good. They were not gay match.

AA-12
03-05-2007, 11:09 PM
Why disappointed in Foley? He rules. I really hope he'll have a part in WM23.

Yeah, seeing Austin was awesome. I never get sick of him.

CityOfEvil
03-05-2007, 11:14 PM
No reasons but I dont like Foley. I liked him last WM but come back or not I dont care really.

I would like Austin come back and wrestle at least one match. I never really saw him wrestle.. I start watching wrestling a little bit than one year and when i started he had this match against.. I dont remember.. to make J.R. come back. Well all this to say that I never saw him wrestle except in videos..

AA-12
03-05-2007, 11:15 PM
Oh man, you missed some goooood times, (probably why you don't like Foley :p).

simplephotographinthesun
03-05-2007, 11:16 PM
i wish austin would say something (although the repeated beer-swelling still holds a special place in my heart)

Jom
03-05-2007, 11:18 PM
That meeting Orton had with Coach probably had to do with getting into MITB.

AA-12
03-05-2007, 11:21 PM
What meeting?

CityOfEvil
03-05-2007, 11:24 PM
Oh man, you missed some goooood times, (probably why you don't like Foley :p).

Yeah I just saw the old videos they pass sometimes. I would have love to watch it before.

Stone Cold drink at least 20 beers :lol:

What the hell Edge was talking about with Martin Luther King and the grand grand mother of Nitro black. :lol:

AA-12
03-05-2007, 11:27 PM
:lol: I don't even think Edge knew what he was talking about.

CityOfEvil
03-05-2007, 11:29 PM
:lol:

I dont understant the fact that when the match start, Mercury start hitting Cena and wasnt disqualified but later yes..

AA-12
03-05-2007, 11:30 PM
The match hadn't started yet though, Mercury came in the ring before Nitro got in.

CityOfEvil
03-05-2007, 11:32 PM
Oh. I didnt pay attention to that.

And the meeting Jom is talking about its Orton told Edge he cant be there for the match because he had a meeting with Coach.. that made Edge ask Nitro to fight Cena..

Kif
03-06-2007, 06:34 AM
Why disappointed in Foley? He rules. I really hope he'll have a part in WM23.

Yeah, seeing Austin was awesome. I never get sick of him.
It's probably likely since his new book is out. Good exposure for him and WWE.

Austin was awesome when he smashed the beer cans in McMahons face. No middle finger salute though.

CityOfEvil
03-06-2007, 09:11 AM
That was so funny. I think McMahons doesnt like beer so much, just look at his face.

ChodaBoy
03-06-2007, 09:17 AM
I mark out like a little girl when Austin shows up, but I would be even worse if the Rock came back. The reaction Austin got from the crowd was great, even though they knew it

Kif
03-06-2007, 09:33 AM
Speaking of The Rock, my 2000 WWE PPV pack is finally downloaded. I have to upload like 10GB to the tracker to even out my ratio, but dammit it was worth it.

AA-12
03-06-2007, 04:03 PM
Austin will be at ECW tonight :-O

simplephotographinthesun
03-06-2007, 06:09 PM
Austin will be at ECW tonight :-O

that show is still on? :p

CityOfEvil
03-06-2007, 06:21 PM
:lol:

I cant watch ECW. I would love to see Austin beat someone lol

Kif
03-06-2007, 06:39 PM
The clip will be uploaded to Youtube. I gave up on ECW a long time ago, and only downloaded an episode recently to see CM Punk get into the MITB match (He used the Go-2-Sleep, it was badass).

I'm starting to prefer Raw to iMPACT though. It's scary.

AA-12
03-06-2007, 06:55 PM
I like all the shows equally, except for ECW, which I still love. It's gotten a ton better than it was like a month ago.

Kif
03-06-2007, 07:20 PM
I tend to just watch PPVs now to be honest.

AA-12
03-06-2007, 07:22 PM
I'm the total opposite. I watch Raw, Smackdown, ECW, and Impact everytime it's on. I only get PPVs if they are amazing (WM23 coming up).

Kif
03-06-2007, 07:44 PM
The advantages of being on wrestling torrent sites :D

AA-12
03-06-2007, 07:47 PM
Meh, if I don't watch the PPV live, i'm not interested.

Kif
03-06-2007, 07:56 PM
I'd probably buy more if I were in America. We don't even get ROH PPVs sold here, and I have no idea what shipping is like overseas. We get TNA PPVs for free here, but they are aired a few days later with breaks, which sucks. As for WWE, I don't feel it's worth it to be honest. Maybe Wrestlemania, just because it's Wrestlemania.

AA-12
03-06-2007, 07:58 PM
PPV's here are $40, all live. No RoH though, just WWE and TNA.

CityOfEvil
03-06-2007, 08:38 PM
I'm the total opposite. I watch Raw, Smackdown, ECW, and Impact everytime it's on. I only get PPVs if they are amazing (WM23 coming up).

Almost samething. But I only watch WM. Normal PPV I just look on the website and see the results.

AA-12
03-06-2007, 08:39 PM
I generally use sites to get up to the minute happenings in most pay per views.

ThrashMaster27
03-06-2007, 09:55 PM
Pay Per Views are $21.90 over here, so it's not too bad. I always enjoy a few beers with a PPV.

Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, Summerslam and WrestleMania I'll always watch. The others I don't care for, unless there's a decent card. I'm hardly ever disappointed with WrestleMania.

Currently I watch RAW, Smackdown and ECW at work, which is rather hard at times. I personally prefer Smackdown out of the 3, but that's just me. I don't like watching ECW, cause Dreamer is all roided up and uses a neckbreaker every other move.

CityOfEvil
03-06-2007, 10:48 PM
I prefer Raw. I can't watch ECW and dont like Smackdown except Taker/Batista

AA-12
03-06-2007, 10:52 PM
I prefer the wrestlers on Smackdown, the actual show of Raw, and just like watching ECW. The originals of ECW are great though.

CityOfEvil
03-06-2007, 11:06 PM
Before I loved Batista but hes turning heel and I hate heel guys.

My favorites are Kendrick/London, its like alomst the only guys I like to see wrestle.

Kif
03-07-2007, 06:07 AM
Batista will never go over as a heel. He was only good as that in Evolution, and that's only because he had 3 other kickass heels around him.

CityOfEvil
03-07-2007, 09:52 AM
Maybe not but when I see him I see a heel guy. Think Im crazy :lol:

AA-12
03-07-2007, 01:57 PM
Haha, really? I kinda see what you mean, but he's still not really a heel.

In ECW it looks like they're pumping CM Punk to have to choose the new breed or the old. Hmm.

HumanCannonball
03-07-2007, 02:33 PM
Haha, really? I kinda see what you mean, but he's still not really a heel.

In ECW it looks like they're pumping CM Punk to have to choose the new breed or the old. Hmm.

I can see them turning him heel if he doesn't get enough pop in the next time. After all his straight edge persona always rambled in Ring of Honor about being better than EVERYONE, because he doesn't drink/smoke/do drugs. It would make tons of sense actually. Either way, Punk makes the best out of his limited situation, so props to him.

AA-12
03-07-2007, 02:35 PM
I think he'll stay face. The crowd loooooooooves him too much.

By the way, I saw earlier that Kurt Angle got nabbed for steroids apparently :(

CityOfEvil
03-07-2007, 03:05 PM
Dont understant that. Like the 3/4 take steroids in the wwe. Just look at Master, Batista, Cena.. why do they caught some guy for that..

Kif
03-07-2007, 03:06 PM
Punk as a heel kind of makes sense. I hope he goes after the IC belt to be honest. If he can get out of ECW and into Raw, it will do him so much more good.

CityOfEvil
03-07-2007, 03:07 PM
I would love to see him on Raw but not as a heel.

encmetalhead
03-08-2007, 03:46 PM
if he leaves ECW he's going to smackdown sicne smackdown is doing bad in the ratings and with punk they could catch a major ratings boost for sd

wes_jett2008
03-08-2007, 03:53 PM
Dude smackdown has been awesome in ratings lately,Dunno where you have been reading your news from.

AA-12
03-08-2007, 03:55 PM
Yeah, Smackdown is just getting better and better. Mainly thanks to 'Taker i'd say.

gaslight
03-08-2007, 04:16 PM
By the way, I saw earlier that Kurt Angle got nabbed for steroids apparently :(

Not really, all his steroids were legitimate prescriptions for rehabbing his injuries. The media are just full of crap is all.

AA-12
03-08-2007, 04:17 PM
Just recently? I saw on TV that he was one of a group of athletes that got in trouble for them.

Kif
03-08-2007, 04:47 PM
Yeah, in like 2005. He openly came out and said it. The media is just bringing up his name to get more attention.

Kif
03-09-2007, 03:42 PM
Destination X line-up. Looks mediocre and very boring to me. TBA is supposedly The Bashum Brothers, which should be good. Only match I really care about is Sabin/Lynn to be honest. Maybe Cage/Joe too I guess. Oh well, predictions for winners are in bold:

* NWA World Heavyweight Championship: Christian Cage (c) vs. Samoa Joe
* Elevation X: A.J. Styles vs. Rhino
* Kurt Angle vs. Scott Steiner
* Two out of Three Falls match for TNA X Division Championship: Chris Sabin (c) vs. Jerry Lynn
* Last Rites match: Sting vs. Abyss
* Double Bullrope match: James Storm and Jackie Moore vs. Petey Williams and Gail Kim
* Crossface Chickenwing match: Senshi vs. Austin Starr
o The match can only be won with the Crossface Chickenwing.
* TBA (w/Christy Hemme) vs. The Voodoo Kin Mafia (B.G. James and Kip James)
* Ghetto Brawl: The Latin American Exchange (Homicide and Hernandez) vs. Team 3D (Brother Ray and Brother Devon)

encmetalhead
03-09-2007, 04:06 PM
Christian Cage (c)
A.J. Styles
Kurt Angle
Chris Sabin (c)
Abyss
James Storm and Jackie Moore
Senshi
TBA (w/Christy Hemme)The Latin American Exchange (Homicide and Hernandez)

AA-12
03-09-2007, 06:18 PM
DX looks amazing to be tbh, one of the better PPVs from TNA. I'm really hoping for Lynn.

Kif
03-12-2007, 09:04 AM
You know what? I thought DX was going to be pretty lackbuster like the last few PPVs, but it entertained me pretty much the whole way through. I skipped the VKM match and Sting/Abyss match to be fair, but the rest was awesome.

AA-12
03-12-2007, 01:59 PM
The Sting/Abyss match was the best :-\

Yeah, it ruled, but the outcome wasn't too great. Daniels returning was really cool, though it sucks for Lynn :(

Kif
03-13-2007, 08:28 AM
Haha. I heard people were chanting "Fire Russo" during that match.

CityOfEvil
03-13-2007, 08:45 PM
So what do you think of The Rock back on Monday Night Raw. I love it.

Jom
03-13-2007, 08:56 PM
I marked out so much, even if it was just a one-time thing.

Did you guys hear the rumors of Y2J negotiating with WWE and TNA for a Fall '07 return?

CityOfEvil
03-13-2007, 09:03 PM
That would be nice.

But you say one-time thing.

He said : The Rock is back on WWE Monday Night Raw. I thought it wasnt just for that night..

Kif
03-13-2007, 09:18 PM
If The Rock is involved in Wrestlemania I will freaking die. I'll pay for this PPV if so.

As for Jericho, I find it hard that he will go to TNA. He has no problems with WWE and they have none with him.

However I can't see him coming back to the ring anytime soon. Unless his band fails or something.

pikester
03-14-2007, 03:15 AM
I would love to see him on Raw but not as a heel.

"Straight edge means I'm better than you".

AA-12
03-14-2007, 07:44 AM
If The Rock is involved in Wrestlemania I will freaking die. I'll pay for this PPV if so.


It's Wrestlemania, you have to buy it anyway :p

Yeah, i'd kill to see him there. That'd be great.

HumanCannonball
03-14-2007, 05:45 PM
It's Wrestlemania, you have to buy it anyway :p


Not if you have a dandy account at pwtorrents.

AA-12
03-14-2007, 05:56 PM
Bah, PPVs that aren't live don't really interest me.

CityOfEvil
03-14-2007, 07:08 PM
"Straight edge means I'm better than you".

Lol. Well, he'll changes that :lol:

simplephotographinthesun
03-15-2007, 12:42 AM
So what do you think of The Rock back on Monday Night Raw. I love it.

he looked a lot smaller since i last saw him.

oh rocky :p

pikester
03-15-2007, 01:18 AM
Not if you have a dandy account at pwtorrents.

Pwtorrents is the shizz.

/goes to get more ROH.

HumanCannonball
03-15-2007, 04:45 AM
Pwtorrents is the shizz.

/goes to get more ROH.

Yeah, pwtorrents is just genius. And yeah, a great place to get lots of ROH.

I frikkin love that site.

Kif
03-15-2007, 08:12 AM
I'm at Xtreme Wrestling Torrents and pwtorrents :)

My ratio at pwtorrents isn't too good though. I need to seed more of the ROH matches I got from there.

CityOfEvil
03-15-2007, 03:43 PM
he looked a lot smaller since i last saw him.

oh rocky :p

I never saw him before lol.

Was he in his house? Because behind there were like all the Championship belt.

simplephotographinthesun
03-15-2007, 07:36 PM
I never saw him before lol.

Was he in his house? Because behind there were like all the Championship belt.

most likely. he probably has replicas of everything he's won

simplephotographinthesun
03-19-2007, 05:30 PM
benoit on raw? MY GOD!!11

AA-12
03-19-2007, 05:32 PM
Benoit vs MVP at WM23 is going to suck hard in my opinion.

encmetalhead
03-19-2007, 06:07 PM
hope it's not for title...

AA-12
03-19-2007, 06:09 PM
It is :-\

AA-12
03-19-2007, 10:28 PM
holy **** holy **** holy **** holy ****

I just saw on the news that Wrestlemania 24 is going to be in Orlando, Florida. It's not confirmed yet but they said they guarantee it.

That's about 2 hours away from me.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

encmetalhead
03-20-2007, 06:25 AM
well then it'll suck *** cause they'll probably drop it on MVP so Benoit can go for world title =(

Kif
03-21-2007, 08:26 PM
Benoit won't go for the world title yet since the Batista/Taker feud is still pretty new.

I just watched Christian Cage and Colt Cabana/Christopher Daniels and Bryan Danielson. Awesome match. God I love ROH.

AA-12
03-22-2007, 12:09 AM
My dad said we can get tickets to WM24 assuming that it's going to be in Florida :D

EDIT: It's official, it's where the rumors said. WM24 here I come! :cool:

CityOfEvil
03-24-2007, 08:24 AM
Benoit/Mvp is just crap. I dont like both. Benoit is good but I dont like him.

Wotan I would love to be at your place lol.

Dont know who saw Raw but I loved the moment where HBK fake his SweetChinMusic and Cena his FU. That was funny. But gay like they are they stop the program when we heard Taker's song.

AA-12
03-24-2007, 09:11 AM
I agree. I like Benoit as a wrestler but not as a champ or Wrestlemania competitor. MVP I just don't like at all.

That part was great. Those two have a great on show chemistry.

CityOfEvil
03-24-2007, 11:28 AM
Yeah.

I looked on wwe.com and even there they didnt put after Taker's song start. Anyone know if something happen?

AA-12
03-24-2007, 11:36 AM
I doubt anything happened. They probably just played the music then ended the show.

CityOfEvil
03-24-2007, 04:43 PM
If youre right its gay cause Cena was like OMG and looking around. :lol:

AA-12
03-24-2007, 04:44 PM
Yeah I can't imagine how it wouldn't have ended awkward, ya know? I mean everyone is all scared looking around then the lights come on and they all exit? :lol:

CityOfEvil
03-24-2007, 05:02 PM
:lol:

If that happened its so funny, and ridiculous but more funny.

Just imagine Cena looking and like in 2 seconds get out of the ring and go in the locker not scare anymore. :lol:

AA-12
03-24-2007, 05:04 PM
Hahaha.

So next this Monday we get to see Vince vs. Lashley. What do you think he'll pull in that one?

CityOfEvil
03-24-2007, 05:10 PM
I dont expect something good for that match except Lashley beat the hell out Vince.

Im like sure Umaga will come sometime in the match. But I dont know who will win. Well, I think Lashley but with Umaga on the other side he can attack him anytime.

pikester
03-24-2007, 05:47 PM
there was probably a taker-related dark match at the end of RAW.

Vince/Lashley will end in some sort of No Contest, probably a massive brawl.

simplephotographinthesun
03-27-2007, 12:46 AM
raw wasn't bad this week. the only fault i find is not bothering to schedule a Trump appearance the monday before wrestlemania.

Jom
03-27-2007, 12:43 PM
Finally a turn. I wonder what they're going to do with the tag titles. I was going to say that they should have put them on MNM during that tag team tornado turmoil steel cage match a couple weeks ago, but lolol, Joey Mercury got fired. And WWE didn't even wish him well in his future endeavors, they just straight-up canned his ***. Hahaha.

ECW looks good tonight, surprisingly. Two confirmed matches are RVD vs. Elijah Burke as a battle of captains, and then the main event is the Hardy Boyz, CM Punk, and Edge (wtf @ this at first glance, but then you realize, duh, he has a broken jaw and will puss out anyway) vs. Finlay, Booker, Mr. Kennedy, and Randy Orton.

Anyway, good times.

After FNSD! everybody should throw in their predictions for Wrestlemania and see what's up.

encmetalhead
03-27-2007, 03:30 PM
why did JM get fired?

AA-12
03-27-2007, 03:30 PM
He failed a drug test.

CityOfEvil
03-27-2007, 03:31 PM
I knew that someone would turn on the other. But being HBK I would have beat Batista after SCM Cena. Just make me more hate HBK, even if I know he'll win at WM.. well Im almost sure.

CityOfEvil
03-27-2007, 03:32 PM
He failed a drug test.

Idiot

AA-12
03-27-2007, 03:33 PM
Yeah, i'm not sad at all. I don't like Mercury at all. Nitro is alright but I could careless whether he stays or goes.

CityOfEvil
03-27-2007, 03:47 PM
I hate both. If Nitro goes I would juste be happy.

encmetalhead
03-27-2007, 04:10 PM
i thought cena would turn heel then when trips came back he would turn heel and fued with HBK for title

CityOfEvil
03-27-2007, 06:17 PM
See Cena heel is the last thing I wanna see in WWE. I just want him to kick HBK's ***.

AA-12
03-27-2007, 06:28 PM
It'll happen eventually.

Kif
03-27-2007, 06:47 PM
I guess I'll be downloading ECW tomorrow morning then. That match sounds good.

As for the tag titles, someone is getting screwed. If Cena loses and turns heel, then my guess is he will screw over HBK. That's the angle I'm hoping for to be honest. Cena as a heel was funny when he did those crappy raps, but I doubt there's too many marks for him as a heel after such a long face run.

AA-12
03-27-2007, 06:48 PM
Screwing over HBK would be a face move anyway though.

There really needs to be a tag team titles match at WM :(

simplephotographinthesun
03-27-2007, 07:06 PM
Screwing over HBK would be a face move anyway though.

There really needs to be a tag team titles match at WM :(

i too need my london/kendrick fix.

CityOfEvil
03-27-2007, 07:08 PM
Yeah. A tag team title have to be in WM. I hope The Rock will be there.

Hope Cena stay face. I think its the only one I would like if he turns heel.

Jom
03-27-2007, 07:17 PM
I always wondered why they couldn't unify the titles, people jump from one brand to the other without rhyme or reason... but then there was a rumor of the ECW brand getting tag titles, but now that La Resistance folded for some reason (I forgot why, exactly, I think it had to do with Rene Dupree f'ing up again), maybe they won't have titles. That way, feuds would increase, as well as more exposure for the superstars on two networks.

AA-12
03-27-2007, 07:31 PM
If they unified titles, stuff would get weird with the two brands.

CityOfEvil
03-27-2007, 07:33 PM
Yeah I dont like the fact that they change brand without reason.

I would just remove ECW. Put CM Punk and Lashley on RAW. Maybe just in dream but I would love that. Others can go on SD.

encmetalhead
03-28-2007, 03:59 PM
which is the next draft? I hope punk goes to SD though he'll do better there sicne SD has a lot of young, rising stars except for jimmy yang wang who is just creepy

AA-12
03-28-2007, 04:03 PM
Jimmy Wang Yang is my hero :lol:

Kif
03-28-2007, 04:29 PM
The best way to look at it is if Raw and SD are competing against each other. In practice clearly they aren't since they are both owned by WWE anyway, but still, that's how I look at it, and that's how I think WWE want it to be too. Unifying the titles is pointless, and would probably sctew over a lot of talent.

AA-12
03-28-2007, 04:51 PM
I agree in a way. If the shows weren't "brands" though and had all the wrestlers on one roster then i'd say unify them.

CityOfEvil
03-28-2007, 05:00 PM
Jimmy Wang Yang is my hero :lol:

You laugh because its a joke or he's really your hero?:p

pikester
03-29-2007, 02:58 AM
Jimmy Yang is a good wrestler with a stupid gimmick atm.

Watch some of his ROH stuff.

AA-12
03-29-2007, 09:56 AM
Yeah, I love his gimmick though, haha.

CityOfEvil
03-29-2007, 03:34 PM
Jimmy Yang is a good wrestler with a stupid gimmick atm.

Watch some of his ROH stuff.

I agree. Dont like the cowboy style he has.

encmetalhead
03-30-2007, 06:49 PM
this would acutally work...

"FORZESE FILES: DEATH TO THE BRAND EXTENSIONBy: Jim Forzese
3/30/2007 9:48:27 AM


I am not saying that the brand extension is officially dead but it appears to be on life support.
WWE has announced that all PPV’s will now be joint efforts. The low buyrates are of course the reason for this and also because the fans have wanted this for along time now, but I am sure WWE will claim it to be a decision they made because of other circumstances. I have been an advocate to get rid of the brand extension from day one so I am very happy that WWE is at least going to remove it from the PPV’s. I like the idea of the PPV’s but what it does is render the big four PPV’s somewhat ordinary. Really besides WrestleMania the other three big shows like SummerSlam, Survivor Series, and Royal Rumble do not differentiate themselves like they did. Yes Royal Rumble and Survivor Series have their hook but is that enough now?

I am not of the belief that the brand extension created more jobs because that is a catch twenty two situation. It may have created more roster spots but those roster spots are being filled by wrestlers that are no where close to being ready for primetime. If the top stars took up the majority of spots then WWE would not rush guys from the developmental system and allow them to properly develop for a minimum of three years. I like the build to WrsetleMania and the fact that all three shows have had the stars pushing the importance of the upcoming show. This should really help creative stay more focused because the writers will not have a full month off from writing for a PPV any longer.

House show business may remain the same but PPV’s and Raw, Smackdown, and ECW should all see growth because fans will now be treated to the possibility that any wrestler will be on the card that night. Of course now the WWE needs to get rid of General Managers for particular shows and anoint someone like Teddy Long the commissioner of the entire WWE Company. That would allow for him to explain all the cross promoting and star jumping that we are currently getting. Yes a lot of guys will still be regulated to one show and that is fine, but the big names will be on all shows and this will also create new feuds and the potential for some exciting title changes.

Take for example the Women’s title match for WrestleMania. If Ashley wins she should not have to be on Raw from now on but the women should have to travel to her if they want a match. Let Trinity of ECW wrestle Ashley on Smackdown for the Raw Women’s title. Have Carlito challenge Chavo for the cruiserweight title on Raw. Hell have Lashley defend the ECW title against Batista on Raw. I think this gives the WWE a chance to really make some intriguing matches and feuds. This is what the fans have been clamoring for for some time now. I have said for awhile that eventually all the top feuds would run dry and there would be no new matchups and that has absolutely happened.

WWE can now build stars without rushing them before the fans have fully invested into them. Guys like Carlito, Nitro, Dykstra, Kennedy, Umaga, and Lashley all have big upside but are not in a position just yet to carry a company or even a PPV or their own just yet.WWE can now use guys like Cena, Batista, HBK, Taker, Rey, Beniot, Edge, Orton, and RVD to feud at the top and let the midcard guys build up the fan support necessary to move them up the main event ladder. This also allows guys like Burchill and Harry Smith and others to really be groomed for the main roster. This may also allow WWE not to make the mistake of firing good young talent like Brent Albright because he was rushed to the big league too soon.

I also would start to combine title like the Tag team titles since having two separate champions really does not work. That is a title that should be capable of being defended on all shows and would also allow for tag champions to be apart of ECW without having to add another separate title to a one hour show. If it were me I would eliminate the cruiserweight title altogether and put more onus on the United States Title belt. Let that belt be used for any weight class throughout any brand so that an importance is bestowed upon it again. I would have the title break down be as followed.WWE champion, World champion,ECW champion, Tag Team champions, Women’s Champion, US champion, and IC champion. Seven titles spread out over three brands should be plenty.

This way no less than three title belts should be on the line at every PPV.The commissioner would then be responsible for deciding who the top contenders are for the roaming title through conterdership matches that are done throughout all three brands.WWE can have battle royals that are between all three brands and the winner becomes number one contender to a belt like the US title. The King of the Ring event can now be between all three brands with the winner truly being the king of the ring and not king of the brand like it is now. The possibilities open up so much and that should help creative come up with a ton of fresh ideas.

Bottom Line:

The announcement of all the PPV’s being a joint effort is a good start but there is so much more WWE can do with this while not fully abandoning the brand extension concept. As I said house shows will not benefit much from this proposal but all the other business outlets should see tons of growth, especially buyrates.WWE has been chugging along nicely from Royal Rumble to WrestleMania, there were still bumps along the way but it was much better, and could do very good business for the rest of the year if the WWE were to do some of this. At least WWE was smart enough to realize that a lot of money was being left on the table and made changes to acquire it.

The concepts are there for WWE to have a good year but the big question will always be, can creative keep up with the storylines? That is the problem plaguing WWE and since the creative team is doing a good job there is no reason to believe they cannot but the true test will be how things are going long after WrestleMania is over. Speaking of WresleMania I hope everyone enjoys what should be a good show this Sunday. You have just read another chapter of the Forzese Files and as always feedback is greatly appreciated.

Jim Forzese
forzeseview@yahoo.com"

-1wrestling.com

CityOfEvil
03-31-2007, 10:31 PM
So.. WrestleMania is in less than 24 hours. I cant wait. Im so excited about it. Im impatient to go to the movies watch it. That will be a very nice night.. almost all the matchs are interesting.. except maybe ECW match. Here my predictions.

My predictions :
WWE Championship
Cena/Hbk : Hbk :( .. This is sad but almost sure that it'll happen.. New WWE Champ.. Cena has it for 2 years.

World Heavyweight Championship
Batista/Taker : Taker.. 15 wins at WM.. 0 lost.. New WHC

Battle of the Billionaires
Umaga/Lashley : Lashley.. Vince Bald :D

Money in the bank : Edge.. dont know but I think Edge will win. I would like CM Punk though.

Ecw Original/New breed : Dont care at all.. let say Original

Womens Championship
Melina/Ashley : Ashley become new Champ :p

Kane/Great Khali : Kane.. do like his brother and beat the hell out of Khali

United States Championship
Benoit/MVP : Benoit stay US Champ because MVP is a looser.. lol

So.. what are yours??? :chug:

AA-12
03-31-2007, 10:33 PM
They show PVPs in your theater?

Here's what I HOPE, not really straight up predict:

HBK

Taker

Lashley

CM Punk

Original

Ashley

Kane

Benoit

CityOfEvil
03-31-2007, 10:42 PM
Well just in one.

Got the same except Money in the bank.. I dont want Edge to win but I dont know I have this feeling that he'll win. But it would be 2 years in row in a feud for the WWE Champ so Im not sure.

Vinterriket
04-01-2007, 11:09 AM
7 hours away :D

CityOfEvil
04-01-2007, 11:43 AM
Yeah:D

Why have you been banned?

Vinterriket
04-01-2007, 11:48 AM
Haha, I don't even know to be honest. Something in R&M I guess. One of the mods had too much fun I suppose, hah.

CityOfEvil
04-01-2007, 11:56 AM
Okay.. but why banning people if they can resign 2 minutes later? lol anyway.

I cant wait to WM. I would love The Rock appear like.. in the battle of the billionaires and start fighting with StoneCold after the match. That would be so exciting lol.

This isnt about WrestleMania but I was watching Hogan know's best and it was the episod that Nick go with Hulk to Monday Night Raw (cause Hulk was wrestling) and he was talking with Cena and Big Show and Vince and made moves in the ring before it start. I would LOOOVE to do that.. lol

Vinterriket
04-01-2007, 11:58 AM
I'm expecting someone "big" to show up at WM23. Triple H, The Rock, Mick Foley, etc. Who knows.

I'm thinking maybe Triple H might come back and screw Cena out of the title and then have DX go heel.

Haha, yeah, I saw that episode. Hogan needs to come back and wrestle :(

Jom
04-01-2007, 02:09 PM
Predictions:

Cena by pinfall (:mad:)
Undertaker by pinfall (:D)
Lashley by pinfall
Melina by pinfall
New Breed by pinfall
Kane by pinfall
MVP by pinfall (Benoit to RAW)
Mr. Kennedy by retrieval of briefcase

Loads of pinfalls, but oh well.

ChodaBoy
04-01-2007, 02:20 PM
I agree with all of those, hopefully it won't be that predictable. Its a shame I cant find a live stream

I'm thinking maybe Triple H might come back and screw Cena out of the title and then have DX go heel.
I would love to see that, but The Rock returning might actually make me cry with happiness :p

Vinterriket
04-01-2007, 02:25 PM
Just buy it :p

Dead Star
04-01-2007, 02:34 PM
I was going to buy this but at £14.99 it is rather spensive

Vinterriket
04-01-2007, 03:01 PM
It costs $50 here, hahaha.

ChodaBoy
04-01-2007, 05:08 PM
I dont mind buying it (i ordered WM21), but, the baseball season starts tonight and I have been waiting for that since october. Ive been waiting for Mania since....a few hours ago, baseball takes priority.

Vinterriket
04-01-2007, 05:09 PM
Wrestling > All :p

22 minutes until the pre-show starts.

Vinterriket
04-01-2007, 10:06 PM
15-0

Kif
04-02-2007, 02:26 PM
I actually tried to buy it, but there was no credit on my ordering card for Sky. Still a hell of a Wrestlemania though.

Dead Star
04-02-2007, 03:25 PM
15-0

Way to spoil it.

I'm downloading atm.

Jom
04-02-2007, 03:39 PM
I have a link to the show if anybody wants it.

It's about 350-some MB and in .wmv format (I think). The sound is pretty good in terms of the commentating but the music and pyro in the beginning sounds like crap.

Wish
04-02-2007, 03:44 PM
Could you send the link to me please? I was meaning to go to a friends and watch it but my mother wouldn't let me go out :(

/pathetic

Jom
04-02-2007, 03:46 PM
Booooo @ moms being anti-fun on April Fool's Day.
Anyway, chekurepz.

CityOfEvil
04-02-2007, 03:48 PM
Cena won!!!! :D:D

I was sure he was going to loose but.. No.. The Champ is here!

It was so great except the fact that almost all the matchs were single match but well..

Vince bald :lol:

I love Taker as the WHC and Benoit stay US Champ. Dont like Kennedy Mr. Money in the Bank and OMG Jeff like kill Edge from the ladder that was just amazing and exciting.

Sad that Melina is still Champ and Khali beat Kane. Khali/Kane was boring

Wish
04-02-2007, 03:51 PM
Haha, yeah, well, she wanted me to eat birthday cake and I had work the next day. Thanks a lot, Jom.

post and shiWell... that post just spoiled it.

CityOfEvil
04-02-2007, 03:54 PM
Oups.. sorry.. I just.. didnt think before write.:upset:

Sorry everyone. :(

Vinterriket
04-02-2007, 03:56 PM
I have to say, I respect Batista now. That match was just incredible on both parts.

CityOfEvil
04-02-2007, 03:57 PM
Should I erase my post?

Vinterriket
04-02-2007, 03:58 PM
Nah, by now anyone interested probably knows the results.

Wish
04-02-2007, 03:59 PM
Nah, it's all good. At least you didn't go into detail :p

EDIT: Nah :eek:

CityOfEvil
04-02-2007, 03:59 PM
I hope.. wish that Wish lol know the results before looking at it.

Ok.. sorry again guys

AA-12
04-02-2007, 04:11 PM
Old account back :D

Dead Star
04-02-2007, 04:13 PM
I have a link to the show if anybody wants it.

It's about 350-some MB and in .wmv format (I think). The sound is pretty good in terms of the commentating but the music and pyro in the beginning sounds like crap.

jom jom jom plz send it :)

Jom
04-02-2007, 04:16 PM
Even still, it's good to watch. It's true that the Jeff Hardy/Edge spot was absolutely bonkers.

Anyway, it's through Megaupload, hopefully there are no objections.

megaupload.com/?d=TFAX343L

CityOfEvil
04-02-2007, 04:16 PM
Old account back :D

:lol:

That's great.. I dont know why yet but it is:thumb:

encmetalhead
04-02-2007, 04:17 PM
Why would the taker/Batista match be midcard if the RR winner gets the main event slot at WM? Why is WWE making a mockery of its self?

AA-12
04-02-2007, 04:18 PM
It's true that the Jeff Hardy/Edge spot was absolutely bonkers.

What do you mean here exactly?
:lol:

That's great.. I dont know why yet but it is:thumb:

:)

Kif
04-02-2007, 05:11 PM
Why would the taker/Batista match be midcard if the RR winner gets the main event slot at WM? Why is WWE making a mockery of its self?
I wondered this as well. I mean, Ashley/Melina was higher than that match, and nothing against the girls since Melina is a decent wrestler, but that is some retarded booking.

I wish Matt would've done the jump though. Looking back at the old Hardies stuff from 2000, he did a lot of the spots as well as Jeff.

AA-12
04-02-2007, 05:12 PM
Taker/Batista should've been the main event, period.

Kif
04-02-2007, 05:14 PM
Taker/Batista should've been the main event, period.
Agreed. It was a much better match than Cena/HBK. The first few minutes HBK worked on Cena's leg, and then out of nowhere he just ran across the ring and started kicking arse.

I think they just keep Cena as the champ because they can't find the old belt, and everyone who has had the stupid spinning belt except Cena looks like a retard with it.

AA-12
04-02-2007, 05:15 PM
I loved the HBK/Cena match, but the WHC match was just incredible. It honestly made me like Batista, who I generally don't take serious.

metallicaman8
04-02-2007, 05:22 PM
Batista kind of sucks tbqh, he has no flair for the industry. He has the physique, but not the passion. He always talks kind of monotone and with little emotion. The only reason people still like is because a few years ago he took out HHH and at the time he was like the biggest bastard ever, so yea.

Anyways, I'm kind of bummed John Cena retained the title again. If it were not for Edge's brief stints as champ Cena would have had the title for 3 years uninterrupted. He's had his time. I wanted HBK to win, so that Triple H could come back, become jealous of HBK's success and that old rivalry would get flared up again.

Kif
04-02-2007, 05:37 PM
Well Triple H was supposed to be in the main event of Wrestlemania before he got injured, so maybe they want Cena to lose the title to him?

Jom
04-02-2007, 06:24 PM
What do you mean here exactly?

I meant that it was a holy **** sort of moment, as in I couldn't believe he jumped two stories (well, it seemed like it, anyway) onto Edge on a ladder. It'd be unfathomable to me if both are on RAW tonight wrestling.

AA-12
04-02-2007, 06:26 PM
Ah, yeah, my thoughts exactly. I'm wondering if Edge was actually badly hurt. If you noticed, the whole situation was really weird.

Jom
04-02-2007, 06:33 PM
I thought I saw the ref throw up the X, but I don't know for sure if it happened or not.

AA-12
04-02-2007, 06:36 PM
I also read that Batista was hurt at the end of his match too. Hmm.

CityOfEvil
04-02-2007, 07:23 PM
Im so impatient to HHH's return. I want him back soon, very soon :p

AA-12
04-02-2007, 07:24 PM
I expect he'll make an appearance soon. Maybe tonight, who knows.

Otherside
04-02-2007, 07:28 PM
Ugh john cena ugh

AA-12
04-02-2007, 07:29 PM
I like him :)

Otherside
04-02-2007, 07:31 PM
doesnt surprise me idk why

CityOfEvil
04-02-2007, 10:04 PM
RAW is 3 hours later because of College Basketball. Thats sucks. Its from midnight to 2 am. I can't watch it :angry:

simplephotographinthesun
04-03-2007, 03:21 PM
interesting way to change the tag titles with those battle royals (although i think they should've allowed every man to stay in, not that shitty team rule)

CityOfEvil
04-03-2007, 03:58 PM
Agree.

I just hate what HBK did to Cena but Hardy's are nice Tag Team.

Jom
04-03-2007, 04:02 PM
The Hardys have finally made the belts worth watching because they're a genuine team, not this Big Show/Kane deal, or the five-man Spirit Squad, or two main eventers and Wrestlemania opponents.

I would LOVE to see a Hooligans vs. Hardys title unification match, but oh well :)

encmetalhead
04-03-2007, 07:39 PM
i think it's spelled Holliganz ;) lol

Jom
04-03-2007, 09:14 PM
i think it's spelled Holliganz ;) lol

Mmm... no, sorry, holligan isn't a word, haha. Hooligan is, though.

encmetalhead
04-04-2007, 03:24 PM
you knew what i meant >.<

simplephotographinthesun
04-04-2007, 04:17 PM
...and matt hardy has a purpose again

:chug:

Kif
04-05-2007, 05:58 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/backlash/

Yes yes yes! I remember seeing this poster ages ago and thinking it was faked, but thank god it isn't! Best WWE promo poster ever!

EDIT: Full poster:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Backlash07.jpg

Dead Star
04-05-2007, 06:00 PM
That poster is made of win

Kif
04-05-2007, 06:04 PM
Agreed. WWE won some love from me for that poster.

Apparently TNA wants to sign Test. It's lol, since he's just a brick wall wrestler that doesn't move and only does big boot. TNA sucks now, it's annoying.

Dead Star
04-05-2007, 06:05 PM
Test is way past it.

I never really liked him back in the day anyway. He was always one of those wrestlers that were just there, never done much.

AA-12
04-05-2007, 06:09 PM
Test was cool, but is now a joke. Ironically enough to say here, I really hope TNA is the company Goldberg is going to go with. That would make my year.

Brew
04-05-2007, 06:37 PM
I was quite pleased to read that Undertaker beat Batista at Wrestlemania. When I heard of talks that they were planning to use Batista to end 'Takers winning streak, it made me pull this face:

:(

CityOfEvil
04-05-2007, 06:41 PM
That poster is made of win

Agree. I love that poster, even if I dont like Edge.

AA-12
04-05-2007, 06:45 PM
I was quite pleased to read that Undertaker beat Batista at Wrestlemania. When I heard of talks that they were planning to use Batista to end 'Takers winning streak, it made me pull this face:

:(

Yeah, those talks really bummed me out, but that doesn't matter now :)

Jom
04-05-2007, 07:02 PM
Very The Shining-esque poster... I dig it.

metallicaman8
04-08-2007, 09:39 AM
Does anyone else think bald is actually a good look for Mr. McMahon?

Also, predictions for Orton vs HBK this Monday.

I'm predicting HBK to be the victor via interfearence by Edge. As a result HBK will face Cena at Backlash and win the title. Then HHH will comeback and at first be HBK's buddy, but then betray HBK because of his lust for the title. Then that whole rivalry will be renewed and Triple H wil be a bastard again.

Also, Orton vs Edge at Backlash.

Themz thoughts is whats I'm thinkin'

AA-12
04-08-2007, 01:02 PM
McMahon looks like a total moron bald.

I agree with your predictions.

metallicaman8
04-08-2007, 01:29 PM
Meh, his hair looked pretty dumb too, though. I think he just needs to have some work done on his ears and he'll be A-okay.

Also, who do ya'll think Kennedy's gonna challenge/whenish.

I'm hoping for anbody but Taker. They've really been trying to push Kennedy up the ladder lately, so whoever they have him face he'll probably beat. I'd hate to see Taker lose his title to a putz like Kennedy. If anything, I'd like Kennedy to go after Lashley.

AA-12
04-08-2007, 01:30 PM
I say Lashley. WWE Championship is tied up and I just don't think Taker vs Kennedy should be revived this soon.

metallicaman8
04-08-2007, 01:41 PM
That's what I was thinking, but then at the same time Kennedy (as much as I hate to admit it) is going to be the next big WWE superstar. Kind of like a new Chris Jericho and with so many superstars on the brink of retiring (HBK, Taker, HHH, Flair) Vince needs some new talent. I don't see him dumping such a large prospect off on ECW (in fact, I was surprised he did that with Lashley). Also, Kennedy has a year to cash in his title shot. Taker could have a couple new rivalries, concur said new enemies and by then everyone will have forgotten about the taker-kennedy rivalry, so it wouldn't seem so odd to renew it. Also, like you said WWE championship is sort of tied up (thought, I guess a few months from now it may not be), so it seems the logical way to go is Taker.

:(

Kif
04-08-2007, 02:01 PM
Mr MITB...MITB (Heh) won't be using his contract anytime soon. He has a year to challenge the match, so there's no reason they would waste it now. He feuded for ages with Taker anyway, and Cena would never lose the title to him. And no offense to Lashley or ECWWE, but there's no reason to give someone a push just to waste it on the ECWWE title.

CityOfEvil
04-08-2007, 02:17 PM
Does anyone else think bald is actually a good look for Mr. McMahon?

Also, predictions for Orton vs HBK this Monday.

I'm predicting HBK to be the victor via interfearence by Edge. As a result HBK will face Cena at Backlash and win the title. Then HHH will comeback and at first be HBK's buddy, but then betray HBK because of his lust for the title. Then that whole rivalry will be renewed and Triple H wil be a bastard again.

Also, Orton vs Edge at Backlash.

Themz thoughts is whats I'm thinkin'

I agree with with that. I just find funny to see McMahons bald. :lol:

CityOfEvil
04-10-2007, 10:25 AM
So.. no winner in Hbk/Orton's match. And Edge is put in the match for the title.

What a match at Backlash.. Hbk vs. Edge vs. Orton vs. Cena.. for the WWE Championship. Cena will find another way to win.. I hope..

The first match announce by Coach was just gay.. Edge/Orton vs. Cena.. one who pin for the victory get the belt.. it would have been interesting but I like more the one that Mickael Pena made.

metallicaman8
04-10-2007, 12:43 PM
I'm predicting HBK to be the victor via interfearence by Edge

Okay, so looks like I was half right there. Anywho, I'm not ashamed to say I have absolutely no idea who's gonna win at Backlash in the fatal-four-way. I'm pretty positive Cena will lose the title, though. I'm going to go with either Orton or HBK.

simplephotographinthesun
04-11-2007, 12:11 AM
just got back from the smackdown/ecw taping in Providence.

overall not a bad show, 7/10

batista's and MVP's pyro really caught me off guard.

AA-12
04-11-2007, 02:30 PM
What the ****, CM Punk went heel. That's so god damn stupid. Argh.

metallicaman8
04-11-2007, 03:44 PM
Went heel? Explaineth.

AA-12
04-11-2007, 03:45 PM
He turned bad and aligned himself with The New Breed.

metallicaman8
04-11-2007, 03:51 PM
Ah, I missed that (don't keep up with ECW so much). But yeah, that sucks:( I likeded him.

Anywho, Whatchoo guys think of the 3 on 1 handi-cap match at Backlash for the ECW title. I'm thinking there's no way Lashley can retain, unless it's by DQ or something stupid like that. I'm just curious as to who they'll give the title to. I doubt Mr. McMahon, Shane's a possibilty I suppose, but Umaga seems to be the most likely choice. BUT, Umaga is currently the Intercontinental Champ, so unless he loses the title before Backlash he's obviously not switching brands.

This one's a tad puzzling tbqh.

CityOfEvil
04-11-2007, 03:59 PM
Thats suck he was the only one I like in ECW. Now he's heel. The New breed team is so gay with Matt Striker and Elijah Burke.. I hate ECW.

For the ECW title. Umaga can win. If you remember RVD was ECW and WWE Champ at the same time so it can happen. But I hope Lashley stay Champ.

Jom
04-11-2007, 04:02 PM
What the ****, CM Punk went heel. That's so god damn stupid. Argh.

I agree partly. The reason why turning him heel sucks is because, aside from RVD (Lashley doesn't count because he does his feuding on RAW and SD!), what main-event face is there? Tommy Dreamer would be the next-best candidate, and that's a huuuuuuuuuuge stretch. It's no wonder the E is pushing RVD to stay.

However, CM functions much better as a heel, if his ROH days are anything to go by. It'll be interesting to see what happens, I guess.

As for the 3-on-1, Lashley is going to retain. Umaga will probably get caught in the ropes and either Vince or Shane will take the pinfall (probably Shane). If it was an elimination match, then yeah, Lashley would have a big fight ahead of him. However, I still envision him having the ECW title indefinitely.

metallicaman8
04-11-2007, 04:02 PM
Yeah and isn't that guy who does the pounce from TNA, but they like changed his name. I'm pretty sure in TNA his name was Monty Brown, or something.

EDIT: Sounds good, Jommy, but I'm envisioning Mr. McMahon having a bunch of back-up superstars ready to run to the ring. Probably starting with some crappy ones, then they'll bring out Khali, unless he ends up with a match scheduled for that night

ChodaBoy
04-11-2007, 04:13 PM
I think Lashley will get his behind handed to him for a substantial amount of time. Then at one point Umaga will accidentally hit either Shane or Vince and end up being forced away from the ring or fired. Then as Shane and Vince continue, Vince makes sure that he gets to pin Lashley - Shane doesnt like that and walks off. Leaving Vince to deal with an irate Lashley, losing easily.

Farfetched I know, but meh

metallicaman8
04-11-2007, 04:17 PM
Farfetched indeed. But I can see Vince or Shane holding Lashley while Umaga goes for the Samoan Spike, but then at the last second Lashley moves and Vince/Shane is inadvertantly knocked out. After that Lashley quickly takes out the other Mcmahon with a spear, or vicious clothesline and is left one on one with umaga.

I just don't see the Mcmahons sending away Umaga in the middle of the match, that'd be a really stupid move on their part.

simplephotographinthesun
04-12-2007, 08:23 PM
Does anyone else think bald is actually a good look for Mr. McMahon?

the people behind the Mr. Clean character should honestly sue.

AA-12
04-15-2007, 01:28 PM
I'm ordering Lockdown tonight.

Anyone up for predictions + repping the winner?

Team Cage (Christian Cage, A.J. Styles, Scott Steiner, Abyss, and Tomko) (w/James Mitchell) vs. Team Angle (Kurt Angle, Samoa Joe, Rhino, Sting and Jeff Jarrett)

Senshi vs. Austin Starr

Chris Sabin (c) vs. Jay Lethal vs. Sonjay Dutt vs. Alex Shelley vs. Shark Boy

TBA (w/Christy Hemme) vs. The Voodoo Kin Mafia

LAX vs. Team 3D

Robert Roode vs. Petey Williams

Jerry Lynn vs. Christopher Daniels

Chris Harris vs. James Storm

Gail Kim vs. Jacqueline Moore

Kif
04-16-2007, 11:31 AM
Winners:
Lethal Lockdown match: Sting

Six Sides of Steel match: Senshi (beat Austin Starr)

Six Sides of Steel Xscape match for the TNA X Division Championship: Chris Sabin (c)

Six Sides of Steel match: VKM (beat Serotonin; was the preshow)

Electrified Six Sides of Steel match for the NWA World Tag Team Championship: Team 3D (Brother Ray and Brother Devon)

Six Sides of Steel match: Robert Roode (beat Petey Williams)

Six Sides of Steel match: Christopher Daniels (beat Jerry Lynn)

Six Sides of Steel Blindfold match: James Storm (beat Chris Harris)

Ladies Six Sides of Steel match: Gail Kim (beat Jackie)

Damn you got a lot of them right.

What was up with the "electrified cage" though. Seriously, did they really think that a few cheap lighting effects and the buzzing sound would make people believe it was real?

Other than that, easily one of the best TNA events as of late. I still think it's funny how they are trying to turn Christopher Daniels heel, and all through his match people were chanting his name and not Lynn's.

AA-12
04-16-2007, 03:35 PM
It was a great PPV. The women's match was just awesome. Surprised the **** out of me. The whole Jarrett thing is interesting too...

simplephotographinthesun
04-16-2007, 07:53 PM
It was a great PPV. The women's match was just awesome. Surprised the **** out of me. The whole Jarrett thing is interesting too...

the idea of jarrett leaning towards a face bugs the **** out of me, kind of like HHH in his face days (although those DX parodies of the nation were gold).

AA-12
04-16-2007, 08:08 PM
Meh, I like both as face.

BassVirtuoso
04-16-2007, 08:39 PM
Ric Flair...stop...wrestling...

AA-12
04-16-2007, 08:40 PM
Flair's the man >:-O

BassVirtuoso
04-16-2007, 08:41 PM
He is the man, that's why he should stop and go out as a legend rather than the guy who gets in the way, like Hogan did.

AA-12
04-16-2007, 08:43 PM
I kind of agree. Hogan hardly ever got in the way though.

BassVirtuoso
04-16-2007, 09:15 PM
Because he quit before people realized all he was able to do was punch, fall, give the leg drop, and point at the opponent.

CityOfEvil
04-16-2007, 09:26 PM
So we have a new Intercontinental Champion. Santino something.. I think I dont remember.

But its good to see another Champ then Umaga.

simplephotographinthesun
04-16-2007, 10:21 PM
So we have a new Intercontinental Champion. Santino something.. I think I dont remember.

But its good to see another Champ then Umaga.

santino + guido + deuce & domino = FBI v. 9234124.0

BassVirtuoso
04-16-2007, 10:26 PM
Wow, they definitely did the exact same thing they did with Santino in OVW.

CityOfEvil
04-17-2007, 03:31 PM
I didnt know that something like that already happen.

I love the main event match. I love the end even if I knew it, it was too easy to guess lol.

And why do they announce that Khali will be in action next week?

AA-12
04-17-2007, 04:25 PM
Because he quit before people realized all he was able to do was punch, fall, give the leg drop, and point at the opponent.

You fail to realize wrestling is "entertainment", and always has been. Hogan was/is the perfect example of a true wrestler.

simplephotographinthesun
04-17-2007, 08:11 PM
You fail to realize wrestling is "entertainment", and always has been. Hogan was/is the perfect example of a true wrestler.

in the classic golden era sense, i absolutely agree. he put on a great show and was larger than life. the modern sense of "wrestler" now is a fusion of an athletic entertainer like Y2J, the Rock, or Kurt Angle. I see steve austin as the bridge between these two eras :p. but there are exceptions to each one

BassVirtuoso
04-17-2007, 08:19 PM
You fail to realize wrestling is "entertainment", and always has been. Hogan was/is the perfect example of a true wrestler.

Nah. He's the perfect example of what wrestling has become, all flash no substance. Wrestling used to be all about the athleticism of the fighters. For example, look at TNA. There isn't a single guy on there that isn't an amazing technical wrestler. Look at old ECW and WCW and OVW, actually just look at everything that isn't WWE.

metallicaman8
04-18-2007, 07:06 PM
And why do they announce that Khali will be in action next week?

Perhaps because he'll finally be in a decent match, rather than just clobbering someone a random.

CityOfEvil
04-18-2007, 07:14 PM
Yeah that make sense. Well I hope he'll finally loose, but I don't think he will. :(

Kif
04-19-2007, 10:06 PM
in the classic golden era sense, i absolutely agree. he put on a great show and was larger than life. the modern sense of "wrestler" now is a fusion of an athletic entertainer like Y2J, the Rock, or Kurt Angle. I see steve austin as the bridge between these two eras :p. but there are exceptions to each one
Agreed. I remember Hogan/Rock at WM22, and it was just hard to watch. Hyped as legend versus legend, new school vs old school. I can't stand watching Hogan wrestle, since he has been riding the same stale move set for years. Anyone who thinks his leg drop finisher is entertaining seriously needs to reconsider why they are watching it.

AA-12
04-20-2007, 09:15 AM
Go watch RoH fags >:-O

Nah, i'm just messing with you. I'm just a fan of old school wrestling so i'm very biased, heh.

encmetalhead
04-20-2007, 08:04 PM
the other side of the tracks won the titles and i think they showed they deserve a title run and i think the fued will be great if done right

AA-12
04-20-2007, 08:05 PM
:D :D :D

That made me sooooo happy.

encmetalhead
04-20-2007, 08:38 PM
i think wwe has 2 options with MITB though, make Keneddy a special ref at backlash and once the match is over he cashes in his mitb or he puts it on the line at the ppv after backlash and then cash it in in a few months

either way we all know he's going to win the title when he cashes it in

Jom
04-20-2007, 10:27 PM
the other side of the tracks won the titles and i think they showed they deserve a title run and i think the fued will be great if done right

A team that's not over, has had no chance to get over with the fans, and yields no reaction deserves a title run?

I firmly believe that using titles to get someone over (Santino, D&D, Lashley, etc.) is wrong. Then again, this is the E we're talkin' here.

I mean, hey, if I see Hardys vs. Hooligans in a ladder match, that'd be cool.

AA-12
04-20-2007, 10:28 PM
In Your Face Jom In Your Faaaaaaaaace

:-*

pikester
04-21-2007, 03:46 AM
Go watch RoH.


Great Idea.

encmetalhead
04-21-2007, 09:09 AM
Jom, think abotu it, they could use London's "injury" to their advantage while Regal/?(can't think of name at the moment) is fueding with Kane. They can cut promos talking crap about how london is a wuss and cound't stand a little bump. That will get some heat, and then they can compete in a couple of hadicap matches to get more heat. Then regal's team can come into the picture while london is taking a break ;).

That will then open Kane for a fued with the returning Mark Henry.

metallicaman8
04-21-2007, 12:34 PM
Ugh, Mark Henry's coming back? Guy can't wrestle worth ****

CityOfEvil
04-21-2007, 06:09 PM
I hate that guy. I don't wanna see him back.

AA-12
04-22-2007, 12:02 PM
He's always been one of my favorite guys to watch...

encmetalhead
04-22-2007, 12:17 PM
in next round of fireings i see MVP, Henry, and Jillian being fired at the least

AA-12
04-22-2007, 12:18 PM
If they were going to fire Henry, they would've done it already.

Kif
04-22-2007, 12:40 PM
Apparently Randy is suspended. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets fired soon at the rate he's going.

Jom
04-22-2007, 02:44 PM
I don't think MVP is going to be fired any time soon. I hate the guy, too, but that's because he's doing a surprisingly good job at being that pain in the ***, annoying heel. So, basically, he shouldn't be fired because he's doing his job! Heh.

He reminds me of Jerry Maguire's client in a lot of ways in the movie. I'm fairly certain he'll be the next US Title holder, and maybe Benoit will jump to RAW, turn heel, and feud with Cena (wishful thinking, seeing as how I'm pretty certain Cena's going to retain at Backlash).

In Your Face Jom In Your Faaaaaaaaace

:-*

hahaha, **** you :upset:

I just think that putting titles on people to get them over is wrong.

I'd still cream myself over a Hooliganz/Hardys ladder match, though!

Apparently Randy is suspended. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets fired soon at the rate he's going.

Truth. How many third strikes can a guy get?

Kif
04-22-2007, 02:55 PM
Hooliganz/Hardyz match would be insane, and would definitely bring back the old days of the Hardyz. Usually they are the ones who carry ladder matches, but with them it would be chaos.

And I hope Randy doesn't get fired. Because

A) That would mean TNA would try to snap him up faster than he could trash another hotel room, and
B) I like him on WWE. I think his character suits the style of show WWE goes for

Then again, he does deserve to get given the boot haha.

Jom
04-22-2007, 03:03 PM
Dude has problems, but he also has a hot fiancé.

I think he just needs to be put on leave for a bit and go to some required counseling, and maybe come back with a fresh outlook. It's too bad that he was this really good heel, and then the WWE ****ed up by giving him this pussy face turn, and now, he's just got Randy Ortonitis in that he doesn't garner as big of a reaction as he used to. It seems like his character and career is meandering, and maybe he just needs to take some time away and straighten himself out and come back. I hate that douche pose (you know the one, where he's got the arms extended and stuff... it just screams, "I'm a douche!"), but it adds to his character, and I'd hate to see him flounder, but he needs to hold himself more accountable for his actions.

ChodaBoy
04-22-2007, 03:42 PM
Yup, myabe he's heard too many stories about T.O. and thinks it might be fun...

If he did leave for a few months to sort his problems, the return would do him some good aswell, as the crowd 95% go insane when someone returns

metallicaman8
04-22-2007, 05:00 PM
He's always been one of my favorite guys to watch...

He makes a good antagonist, that's for sure, but he seriously can't wrestle. He can't control himself and always ends up actually injuring people. Mostly recently, Angle and Benoit.

AA-12
04-22-2007, 06:07 PM
He makes a good antagonist, that's for sure, but he seriously can't wrestle. He can't control himself and always ends up actually injuring people. Mostly recently, Angle and Benoit.

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/710/710571/mark-henry-interview-20060530020842627-000.jpg

Does that really look like an easy going, gentle, and agile wrestler? :p