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ThrashMaster27
10-17-2006, 02:31 AM
I've only ever seen one ROH match and it was a good one. If I remember it was Paul London vs Matt Bentley(?) in a street fight. Was quite a good (and stiff!) match, I remember Paul London finishing him off with a 450 Splash off the top of a gigantic ladder.
...Something I didn't know. Raven used to be Johnny Polo? hahaha, that's hilarious.
pikester
10-17-2006, 04:18 AM
Because I'm a nice person, here's a bunch of really good ROH matches.
Bryan Danielson vs. Austin Aries (75 minutes)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VBQ6792P
Samoa Joe vs. Kenta Kobashi (Incredible match)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F3G7TCUL
KENTA (not Kobashi) vs. Low-Ki
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MZYHXDN2
Do Fixer vs. Blood Generation (I'm not sure this counts, as these guys aren't really ROH wrestlers at all, they all work for a promotion called Dragon Gate in Japan. That being said, it happened in an ROH ring, and is the most exciting match I've ever seen.)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E05WWZFY
That should get you started.
I uploaded Homicide Vs Jack Evans on Youtube and it got taken down in less than 24 hours haha.
ThrashMaster27
10-25-2006, 04:01 AM
We're on page 2? not cool.
Anybody been voting on what should go on at Cyber Sunday? Some of them are quite interesting actually. What's everyone voted so far? I've gone with...
Big Show vs Cena vs Booker-T - ECW Title on the line.
Jeff Hardy Vs ? - Carlito to face.
Umaga Vs ? - The Sandman to face.
Ric Flair & ? vs Spirit Squad - Sgt. Slaughter to tag.
DX vs Edge & Randy Orton - Bischoff to ref.
Only thing that interests me there is Hardy/Carlito, and that's assuming Jeff is on his a-game, which he probably won't.
Anyone else see Bound For Glory?
EinzingerIsGod
10-25-2006, 10:52 AM
]DX [/B]vs Edge & Randy Orton - Bischoff to ref.
OK, I haven't really followed wrestling for at least 5 years or so. But DX is back? I know this is probably wicked old. Who's in it? Is it the original group?
Triple H and Shaun. Both too old to act like jackasses, and especially too big to be tagging up. That said, they are probably the most entertaining part of Raw at the moment, as sad as that sounds.
EinzingerIsGod
10-25-2006, 11:28 AM
Ahh so no X-Pac?
ChodaBoy
10-25-2006, 02:57 PM
The problem with HBK and HHH, is lack of competition. At the moment, there is only Cena, Orton, and Edge, who can main event. Cena is in a feud, and the other 2 are already fighting them.
A draft would be a good idea, it would give the main guys some new(ish) competition, and allow for some title changes.
WWE's tag division has really suffered as of late though. What is there? DX, and that's it. The Hardies re-uniting would be cool, but that's all I can think of. Well, the only tag teams that are worthy of being in the tag team division.
ChodaBoy
10-25-2006, 07:38 PM
The Brit stable was looking pretty good, but now Dave Taylor has suffered a knee injury that will leave him out for quite a lengthy period of time.
Regal and Finley is a great tag-team, if they bring back Birchall without his pirate gimmick it could lead to quite a good heel stable.
The vets will show these kids who's boss!
EinzingerIsGod
10-25-2006, 07:48 PM
What ever happened to the Dudleys?
What ever happened to the Dudleys?
Moved to TNA.
thirdeyeblindislit
11-02-2006, 02:52 PM
The WWE has disappointed me. What the hell is up with K-Fed, and what in the hell made them think it was a good idea to somehow put him in the storyline.
Vince to Script Writer:
"You're F****ng fired!!!"
HumanCannonball
11-02-2006, 03:19 PM
Ugh, I absolutely despise the WWE at the moment. It's the worst and boring situation they have since 1995.
Stale & retarded booking, lack of character development, poor wrestling etc.
That's why I only watch Ring of Honor and CHIKARA. And sometimes TNA.
Xenon_
11-02-2006, 11:32 PM
Ugh, I absolutely despise the WWE at the moment. It's the worst and boring situation they have since 1995.
Stale & retarded booking, lack of character development, poor wrestling etc.
That's why I only watch Ring of Honor and CHIKARA. And sometimes TNA.
I agree, its been an steadily getting worse for quite a while now.
simplephotographinthesun
11-02-2006, 11:43 PM
The Brit stable was looking pretty good, but now Dave Taylor has suffered a knee injury that will leave him out for quite a lengthy period of time.
Regal and Finley is a great tag-team, if they bring back Birchall without his pirate gimmick it could lead to quite a good heel stable.
The vets will show these kids who's boss!
kind of like an un-americans 2006? that'd be pretty sweet.
gaslight
11-04-2006, 09:12 PM
WWE's tag division has really suffered as of late though. What is there? DX, and that's it. The Hardies re-uniting would be cool, but that's all I can think of. Well, the only tag teams that are worthy of being in the tag team division.
London and Kendrick.
They look quite reputable actually. Might have to watch some more Smackdown and see what they are like.
Kurt Angle/Samoa Joe for Genesis. Should be an awesome match.
gaslight
11-05-2006, 08:45 AM
London and Kendrick are great but the problem is there's no-one for them to really work with.
SVR07 comes out in a few days, my PS2 better be ready for a lot of playing.
Kif, your post count is immense.
What do you guys think of CM Punk? I think he has some good potential in ECW.
I hope someone puts that Angle/Joe match on youtube or something, because I think that will be the most anticipated debut of a wrestler with a company in a long time, possibly ever.
Like I said, lack of serious tag teams in WWE, especially with it split into 2 brands. I heard the Brothers Of Destruction were good though, which could mean something cool.
I have the demo of that and haven't played it in ages. I sucked at it though. I might rent it for 360.
Yes. Yes it is.
I've seen one match with him in. It was with Samoa Joe actually, and it was pretty cool. He has like a cult following, but I haven't seen anything but spots of him from ECW. Then again I haven't seen ECW in a long time.
Angle/Joe will end up on Youtube, at the very least a "Best of" montage. TNA don't take down as much on there since they need the publicity. If need be I'll rip the match and post a link on here. I'll grab Genesis when it's available anyway.
gaslight
11-05-2006, 09:06 AM
Yeah 360 version will probably have better graphics :(.
I wish there was a world championship of wrestling videogames because I think I could go pretty well, even on a world level. All I did in high school was music and videogames.
And yeah, the problem with tag teams in WWE is that even when a brand has a good one (London/Kendrick on SD for example) they still need another good team to work good matches with.
Psicosis and Super Crazy were pretty good but Psicosis like stole a car at gunpoint or something and doesn't have a job no more :lol:.
London and Kendrick are amazing. I hate how they got stuck with Ashley, though, but I guess you can't have it all. I love the elevated London Calling \m/
Also, Cyber Sunday is tonight, and I'm willing to bet that buyrates are going to be piss-poor.
gaslight
11-05-2006, 09:28 AM
London Calling deserves an award for a clever name.
HumanCannonball
11-05-2006, 11:19 AM
What do you guys think of CM Punk? I think he has some good potential in ECW.
CM Punk is the absolute future of the business.
This guy has everything, charisma in and outside of the ring, superb in ring skills (watch the Joe/Punk 1 hour battles or just rent the best of CM Punk in ROH, it's worth it), he's just phenomenal. And he's already one of the most over guys in ECW easily.
simplephotographinthesun
11-05-2006, 12:58 PM
London and Kendrick are great but the problem is there's no-one for them to really work with.
they should just kill the spirit squad idea right now and send a couple over to smackdown to feud with london and kendrick, or even send over cade and murdoch.
thirdeyeblindislit
11-06-2006, 06:03 PM
Then Kevin Federline cost John Cena the Champion of Champions match. What a retarded storyline! I'm very disappointed.
Me thinks the WCW should come back. :thumb:
HumanCannonball
11-07-2006, 01:05 PM
Vince McMahon has completely lost it with the last RAW.
That was the worst RAW I have EVER seen. And they just continue with this trend of putting out bad television.
I can't recall the last time I have seen a good RAW episode. I can't.
Maybe last year, yeah the Homecoming was pretty cool actually, but other than that, I can't recall a good RAW episode as of late.
They completely turned their supposed Wrestling organization into a full blown entertainment show.
First of all, Umaga destroys Maria. A woman. You're so ****en strong dude. Nobody gives a crap about you you fat sloppy samoan buttcrack.
After all of this, they play John Cena’s music and he finally runs in. Says Jim Ross, “Cena’s seen enough.”
So, apparently Cena was sitting backstage, watching as Umaga slowly picks apart and destroys a woman he outweighs by hundreds of pounds.
He gives her the Samoan drop. He gives her his butt drop. And finally, he teases that he will use the Samoan spike. It was then, and only then, that Cena said, “by God, that’s too much. The Samoan drop on Maria was fine. The butt drop was cool. But the Samoan spike would just be too much.” This is the logic we’re dealing with here. This show is written by IDIOTS.
IDIOTS
But we’re not done yet. The interviewer comes out and has a question for Cena. His question was why Cena was out there. So little Maria is getting destroyed by a 300 pound Samoan savage who if this were real would probably have killed her. Nobody comes to her aid. Cena only comes out after he has attacked her multiple times. And the question on the interviewer’s mind is why he came out there. That’s a hell of a question. So, what’s Cena’s response? Why, that’s the best part of all.
Cena decides to cut a COMEDY promo. Yes. Seriously. As Maria is being carried to the back, presumably suffering a broken back or broken neck, Cena stands in the ring and tells jokes about the interviewer.
This is your hero.
He waits to save her, and then before making sure she is okay, decides it is time for comedy hour.
Apparently there must be comedy in every Cena promo. Requisite comedy out of the way, he goes back to a serious promo. He tells Bischoff to back off and says the next time Umaga wants to beat up someone, he can come after Cena. He also accepted K-Fed’s challenge. And then out of the blue he gives the interviewer an FU. This is the **** that they are putting on television today, ladies and gentlemen.
thirdeyeblindislit
11-07-2006, 03:30 PM
Seriously, I think there should be a contest held or something for the next writer of the WWE.
Kevin Federline does not belong in the WWE, and a 100 pound girl being slammed around by a 400 pound man is not really entertaining. The right thing to do would have been to have John Cena come out before the match even began.
The first Survivor Series match was announced!
It's the traditional elimination 5-on-5 match.
Team DX (DX, The Hardy Boyz, and CM Punk) vs. Team anti-DX (Edge, Orton, Gregory Helms, Johnny Nitro, and Mike Knox)
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
I think it's fair to say Team DX will win that. Edge and Randy won at Cyber Sunday, which no one really cares about. But seeing the Hardyz back together is exactly what Raw needs. Jeff didn't need the IC belt in the first place. Besides which, there are far better wrestlers in the IC division that can wrestle for it.
As for Kevin Fed on Raw, I'm just really ignoring it now. I'm not wasting my ratio on Xtreme Wrestling Torrents just to see the WWE in the worst state in about 10 years.
pikester
11-07-2006, 05:20 PM
Yeah, I pretty much use my ratio on PWTorrents on ROH and sometimes NOAH.
Much better use, aye.
ThrashMaster27
11-07-2006, 10:46 PM
It's the worst WWE has been for a while, but not the worst. 1994 - 1996 was the worst period in history. Everyone was a "Great technician" doing "High risk manuvers". Plus you had Vince colour commentating... enough said really.
CM Punk with DX? I suppose that one's for the fans really isn't it. Him being straight edge doesn't really fit in with either team really. Anyway, it's an interesting match up.
...and why didn't The Sandman go against Umaga? you people suck!
HumanCannonball
11-08-2006, 11:39 AM
I think they put Punk in team DX because he has those X's on his hands.
BUT THEY MEAN THAT HE'S STRAIGHT EDGE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH DX.
What a bunch of fools. I doubt Vince even understands his gimmick at all. He was probably sitting in his chair, looking at him,
"Ah, you got some DX on your hands"
"Hmm, no Mr.McMahon, they mean Straight Edge you know a-"
"Yeah yeah alright"
"I CAN WRESTLE"
"That doesn't matter. This company doesn't appreciate wrestli..EH I mean that kind of sports entertainment itself"
"I CAN CUT GODLIKE PROMOS AS WELL"
"Yeah, whatever, hopefully you do indeed have good promos that's all that counts. And you're kinda small. We will get you on roids as soon as possible" "What a freak..."
They put CM Punk with Team DX because he's over with the crowd at ECW, and maybe they think he'd do better at Raw as a face.
ChodaBoy
11-08-2006, 02:46 PM
I can understand wanting to see good wrestling matches in WWE, they do this quite frequently (if you kick the smarkiness out of your system). But if you've seen more than a weeks viewing of their product, you cant honestly expect to see pure wrestling from beggining to end. Multiple times per show they class themselves as 'sports entertainment'.
If you want to see an actual wrestling product, there are plenty around.
Team DX (DX, The Hardy Boyz, and CM Punk)
T'will be good to see the Hardyz back together, if the crowd react the right way we could see a full-time return for them, which would be great for the tag team division.
----
Another match for Survivor Series has been announced. Another 5-5 elimination match
Team Cena (Cena, Kane, Lashley, Sabu, RVD) vs. Team Big Show (Show, Test, MVP, Umaga, Finlay).
Survivor Series should be abandoned and King Of The Ring should be brought back. I get that Survivor Series is a main event, but I think more than 1 of the special matches ruins it a bit, especially now that WWE has 3 brands including ECW.
Junooni
11-09-2006, 12:54 AM
Hardyz are back? Sweet.
thirdeyeblindislit
11-09-2006, 01:08 AM
I think they should bring X-Pac and Road Dogg back to DX. Now that's a party! :thumb:
They will never work for WWE. Ever.
Especially Road Dogg after what he said about the new DX. Plus X-Pac's heat is amazing.
gaslight
11-09-2006, 08:15 AM
CM Punk is in with the DX team because he's one of the most over guys in ECW at the moment and has a really bright future there, it's nothing to do with him being "straight edge" or not. And if you think him being straight edge doesn't fit with the DX gimmick, neither does HBK being a born-again Christian.
It's just a face team they've put together, a good one too. Great to see CM Punk in a main event. I really don't like his name though.
Matt & Jeff vs London & Kendrick would be amazing, but I doubt it will happen. Jeff will probably be tied up in the IC belt thing for a while, and its WWE tradition for Matt to be under-used.
I dunno, I'd like to see the Hardyz in the Smackdown brand so there's a bit more opposition for the tag titles. Jeff lost the IC belt pretty quickly, so I think that was just to give his return a little more meaning.
Oh, for Genesis rumours are LAX will be against AMW, which makes sense.
HumanCannonball
11-09-2006, 11:56 AM
They will never work for WWE. Ever.
Especially Road Dogg after what he said about the new DX. Plus X-Pac's heat is amazing.
It's called actually "X-Pac heat". He's not over as heel. Fans don't really hate him. They don't care. It's not real heat.
thirdeyeblindislit
11-09-2006, 12:32 PM
They will never work for WWE. Ever.
Especially Road Dogg after what he said about the new DX. Plus X-Pac's heat is amazing.
What did road dogg say about the new dx?
It's called actually "X-Pac heat". He's not over as heel. Fans don't really hate him. They don't care. It's not real heat.
I know it's called X-Pac Heat. It's weird, I never noticed it when he was in DX around 2000.
pikester
11-09-2006, 03:43 PM
What really needs to be said here is that ROH's Glory By Honour 5 weekend is out on DVD, and by golly, it's fantastic.
Download/buy/acquire ASAP.
EDIT: I just noticed that signups are open at www.pwtorrents.net, which is a great place to acquire wrestling media, much like the aforementioned GBHV.
HumanCannonball
11-09-2006, 05:08 PM
What really needs to be said here is that ROH's Glory By Honour 5 weekend is out on DVD, and by golly, it's fantastic.
Download/buy/acquire ASAP.
EDIT: I just noticed that signups are open at www.pwtorrents.net, which is a great place to acquire wrestling media, much like the aforementioned GBHV.
Nice!
I have to get my hands on that one as soon as possible.
My ratio on pw is pretty low though :rolleyes:
pikester
11-09-2006, 06:38 PM
The trick to a nice ratio is to jump on popular torrents early and then just seed them forever. ROH DVDs and WWE/TNA PPVs are usually good for that sort of thing.
My ratio is usually bumped up by iMPACT episodes. Then again my ratio is about 3.4 so I don't have much to worry about when I grab ROH DVDs (Usually about 2GB each).
lunchforthesky
11-10-2006, 09:59 AM
im seeing smackdown on tuesday with my girlfriends little brother. i havent watched wrestling in like two years. anyone want to summarise whats going on?
im seeing smackdown on tuesday with my girlfriends little brother. i havent watched wrestling in like two years. anyone want to summarise whats going on?
There's a lot of new talent.
Booker T is the champion, but he has a new gimmick: King Booker. His Queen/real life wife is the most annoying twat you will ever hear. There are three or four guys clamoring for his title... Batista, Finlay (if you watched WCW, it's the same dude), and this last guy is a stretch, but Bobby Lashley, who people are calling "Black Lesnar" because of his physique.
Kane's on Smackdown now. He teamed up with Undertaker, but I don't think the Brothers of Destruction are a full-time team. They're feuding with another new guy, Mr. Kennedy, and MVP, who reminds me of Cuba Gooding Jr.'s character in Jerry Maguire. He's a chickenshit heel who hasn't done anything.
Eddie Guerrero died about a year ago at this time, and Vince is milking his death by having feuds with Rey Mysterio and Chavo. Rey is on hiatus due to his surgery (losing to Chavo in an I Quit match), and now Benoit is starting to plant the seeds to feud with Chavo. Benoit is the US Champion.
The tag division is lackluster, even though the best tag team on all three brands is on it (Paul London and Brian Kendrick/Spanky). The only team they've been feuding with are two hacks with zero personality and charisma.
Gregory Helms (formerly The Hurricane, and current Cruiserweight champ) and Matt Hardy have been feuding for the past couple months, and it's been very good seeing as how Vince doesn't give the midcard a whole lot of time to develop. Akio is now a redneck cowboy (face) feuding against Sylvan (he was part of La Resistence and has changed his gimmick more times than I've changed my avatar lately).
Vito is a cross-dresser, but is insanely over with the crowd somehow.
The Boogeyman is a gimmick wrestler... he's wrestled two matches, I think, and they've all lasted approximately twenty seconds combined.
lunchforthesky
11-10-2006, 11:24 AM
so the most talented wrestler on the show, chris benoit, is messing around with chavo when he should fighting booker. yet aged hacks like fit finlay are above him. batista's nothing special either unless hes improved. i assume were gonna get the kane - undertaker feud at some point.
attitude era wrestling was the best. they dont do crazy stuff anymore, it sucks.
HumanCannonball
11-11-2006, 06:43 AM
so the most talented wrestler on the show, chris benoit, is messing around with chavo when he should fighting booker. yet aged hacks like fit finlay are above him. batista's nothing special either unless hes improved. i assume were gonna get the kane - undertaker feud at some point.
attitude era wrestling was the best. they dont do crazy stuff anymore, it sucks.
1. Fit Finlay is by far one of the best wrestlers on the entire brand and has a great arsenal of brutal shots and can easily make you believe he's literally f-ing somebody up. He's a veteran. He built and trained the ENTIRE womens division of Trish, Victoria, Molly etc. etc. If you call him a hick then that's just pure stupidity in my books. He may not have the charisma of the Rock if you search for that, but who has that nowadays anyway? He's a legitamite old school asskicker.
2. Of course they don't do crazy stuff. Do you know what wrestling takes to your body? I doubt it. Look at Jeff Hardy. The guy f-ed himself up during that era in the TLC matches and look at him up. He f's up every 3 move (well, that's not exactly new but..), he walks like a senile grandfather at times and is just plain and simple a drugged up trainwreck. Spotwrestlers have short careers. That's why greats like Finlay, Regal, Benoit, etc. are still on top. They know everything about the sport, didn't f themselves up and are still on top. Wrestling is not about crazy 8 feet jumps or falling through burning tables. If you like that, then watch something like Die Hard or Triple X. Wrestling is about pure WRESTLING.
SubtleKike
11-11-2006, 11:11 AM
I used to watch WWE
1. Fit Finlay is by far one of the best wrestlers on the entire brand and has a great arsenal of brutal shots and can easily make you believe he's literally f-ing somebody up. He's a veteran. He built and trained the ENTIRE womens division of Trish, Victoria, Molly etc. etc. If you call him a hick then that's just pure stupidity in my books. He may not have the charisma of the Rock if you search for that, but who has that nowadays anyway? He's a legitamite old school asskicker.
Agreed with this 100%. Finlay IS actually a badass character right now, and he's an even better worker.
2. Of course they don't do crazy stuff. Do you know what wrestling takes to your body? I doubt it. Look at Jeff Hardy. The guy f-ed himself up during that era in the TLC matches and look at him up. He f's up every 3 move (well, that's not exactly new but..), he walks like a senile grandfather at times and is just plain and simple a drugged up trainwreck. Spotwrestlers have short careers. That's why greats like Finlay, Regal, Benoit, etc. are still on top. They know everything about the sport, didn't f themselves up and are still on top. Wrestling is not about crazy 8 feet jumps or falling through burning tables. If you like that, then watch something like Die Hard or Triple X. Wrestling is about pure WRESTLING.
This I partly agree and disagree with.
It didn't help that Vince refuses the cruiserweights to fly now. No more 450 Splashes, or SSPs, or stuff like that. He doesn't want to get sued or whatever. So now the cruisers have to be more technically sound. The Hooligans can fly a bit more because they're ALWAYS safe workers.
And also, Vince is trying to get away from the '80s lingo, which I think is ridiculous. Instead of 'wrestler,' it's "sports entertainer." Instead of "belt" or "title," it's "championship. It's complete crap because Vince is an idiot.
For example, check out where Survivor Series is in 2007. MONTREAL.
Who wants to bet that they're going to allude to the infamous screw job there? I can basically guar-an-damn-tee it.
There is very little wrestling these days and more sports entertaining, which sucks because I love it when there's a Benoit/Regal feud, but can't stand it when 6'4"+, 300+ men are just pounding each other with "stiff" lefts and rights and finishing a move with a chokeslam when they don't know anything about the sport in general. (Undertaker and Kane are exceptions to this rule, obviously, because of their awesome stature with the company.)
SubtleKike
11-11-2006, 11:21 AM
i dont like it when they hit each other with chairs somebody could get hurt
Phillipe Raconte
11-11-2006, 11:22 AM
nono the chairs are made of polystyrene its completely safe
SubtleKike
11-11-2006, 11:26 AM
are you sure they look like metal to me
Phillipe Raconte
11-11-2006, 12:38 PM
That is just the metal spraypaints they put on it to make it looks realistix
SubtleKike
11-11-2006, 12:41 PM
but if they were made of polystyrene surely they would break and the secret would be revealed
Phillipe Raconte
11-11-2006, 12:42 PM
no the restlers hit really soft and some guy makes a sound effects of a metal chair
SubtleKike
11-11-2006, 12:44 PM
does he get payed well
Phillipe Raconte
11-11-2006, 12:46 PM
i am not sure i would assume he at least gets the minimum wagez
SubtleKike
11-11-2006, 12:52 PM
where can i apply for this position
Phillipe Raconte
11-11-2006, 12:53 PM
at ur local job centerz
SubtleKike
11-11-2006, 12:56 PM
i am not sure i am sufficiently qualified :(
encmetalhead
11-11-2006, 01:18 PM
XD that was a funny response
lunchforthesky
11-11-2006, 09:00 PM
im watching old rock promos.
no one has anything on him anymore
Kickflip_Burrito
11-12-2006, 02:34 PM
I really am dislking the Chavo-Rey thing. Although, I think its over now, they killed that angle where Chavo 'shattered' Rey's knee. It all seemed real, til that dumb angle where chavo came out when Rey was telling the fans what he plans to do with his career, then Chavo signs the chair he used on Rey, writing 'I OUIT' instead of 'I Quit' then batters his knee again. See, do they really expect us to believe that Rey's injury was as serious as they said, when 2 weeks later, its being battered with a chair again.
I agree with whoever said that Vince and the writers are milking Eddie Guerrero's legacy. Its crap.
encmetalhead
11-12-2006, 03:07 PM
rey did have surgery though
Kickflip_Burrito
11-12-2006, 03:31 PM
rey did have surgery though
Well, yeah I'm not disputing that he hasn't got an injury, he clearly has, but its not as bad as WWE made out, otherwise they wouldn't let his knee get battered again, just 2 weeks after 'shattering' it.
simplephotographinthesun
11-14-2006, 01:29 AM
im watching old rock promos.
no one has anything on him anymore
i miss his vocal battles with jericho
encmetalhead
11-14-2006, 07:40 AM
not like it'l hurt anyway they go fukll force and pull back enough for a slight tap
lunchforthesky
11-14-2006, 07:54 AM
i miss his vocal battles with jericho
i dont think his mic skills will ever be surpassed, they were legendary. the way he always talk in the thid person. gets me every time.
GOING TO SEE SMACKDOWN TONIGHT!
i have no doubt it will suck but it'll be fun all the same
misfitsfan1990
11-15-2006, 07:47 AM
Can someone give me the scoop on this James Gang thing? I mean what are they up to, they "Quit" TNA and then say they will be on WWE tv on thursday? The way TNA is playing it, it looks like a work so is BJ and Kip invading WWE programming or what?
Ghoul Hunter
11-15-2006, 01:11 PM
I'm gonna start watching this.
Can someone tell me when the shows are on EST?
TNA Impact is going to a two-hour timeslot starting this Thursday - 9PM EST on SpikeTV. It is definitely more wrestling-based.
http://www.tnawrestling.com/
The WWE shows... there are three, but there's less focus on wrestling and more on gimmicky entertainment, unfortunately.
RAW - 9-11:05-ish EST on USA on Mondays
Smackdown - 8-10 EST on CW Network - Fridays
"New" ECW - 10-11 EST on Sci-Fi
http://www.wwe.com/
Can someone give me the scoop on this James Gang thing? I mean what are they up to, they "Quit" TNA and then say they will be on WWE tv on thursday? The way TNA is playing it, it looks like a work so is BJ and Kip invading WWE programming or what?
It's just another way to but the James Gang on the sidelines and set them up for a bigger comeback. There's no way WWE will encourage TNA by letting them "raid" WWE.
Ghoul Hunter
11-15-2006, 03:17 PM
TNA Impact is going to a two-hour timeslot starting this Thursday - 9PM EST on SpikeTV. It is definitely more wrestling-based.
http://www.tnawrestling.com/
The WWE shows... there are three, but there's less focus on wrestling and more on gimmicky entertainment, unfortunately.
RAW - 9-11:05-ish EST on USA on Mondays
Smackdown - 8-10 EST on CW Network - Fridays
"New" ECW - 10-11 EST on Sci-Fi
http://www.wwe.com/
Thanks a bunch :)
encmetalhead
11-15-2006, 06:15 PM
ecw is on tuesday he forgot to put that
thirdeyeblindislit
11-16-2006, 04:04 PM
Is it sad that Smackdown vs Raw 2007 has a better storyline than the show itself?
misfitsfan1990
11-20-2006, 10:01 AM
Is it sad that Smackdown vs Raw 2007 has a better storyline than the show itself?
Yes very, very sad.
On another note Genesis! What a PPV, i mean it was a bit of a mess in execution but hell it was still a brill event. Kept me on the edge of my seat.
Ghoul Hunter
11-20-2006, 10:52 AM
What were the results?
By the way, i'm officially back into wrestling guys :). TNA is exactly what I wanted. It's like old school WCW + ECW.
What were the results?
http://www.rajah.com/base/node/6796 has a pretty good recap.
I don't know if any of the results are on the main site in video format yet or not, though.
Ghoul Hunter
11-20-2006, 10:55 AM
Your Winner and New World Champion: Abyss
oshi, that's awesome. He reminded me of the real Kane, and was one of my favorites.
Your Winner and New World Champion: Abyss
oshi, that's awesome. He reminded me of the real Kane, and was one of my favorites.
He won by disqualification, he didn't pin Sting.
Best match of the night - LAX/AMW for me. LAX are brutal now heh.
Ghoul Hunter
11-21-2006, 08:43 PM
He's got the title though, right? I hope so.
simplephotographinthesun
11-21-2006, 10:22 PM
angle will be TNA champion by january anyways, poor abyss :p
Ghoul Hunter
11-21-2006, 10:51 PM
I don't doubt it. Not a huge fan of Angle though.
Ghoul Hunter
11-23-2006, 09:08 PM
TNA on in 5 minutes.
So I saw Survivor Series, and it wasn't bad. Nice to see CM Punk getting a push from WWE, and the Hardys back together. Their flawless victory over Team Rated RKO was pretty cool too. I didn't really watch anything other than that though.
gaslight
11-28-2006, 04:11 AM
Roddy Piper diagnosed with cancer :(.
Iron Bug
11-28-2006, 04:28 PM
Seriously? Links?
ChodaBoy
11-28-2006, 05:24 PM
http://www.wwe.com/ On the right
Iron Bug
11-28-2006, 06:57 PM
Well it says that it's easily treatable. So thats good.
ChodaBoy
12-02-2006, 06:12 PM
Oh sweet Jebus. Ive never been a fan of TNA, i'll admit - but they are truely embarassing themselves now.
VKM showing up at Raw and filming it is just a horrible idea. They're doing exactly what WCW did, and look where that got them
Ghoul Hunter
12-02-2006, 08:24 PM
Really? I fine TNA amazingly good. It's like old school WCW + ECW. Great wrestling and no dumb storylines.
WWE is alright though. Undertaker and Kane cleaning house last night kicked ***.
I agree though. VKM are doing exactly what new DX are doing, except they are passing it off as if they are OK with it.
Russo is ruining TNA. Too many title changes on iMPACT, pushes on wrestlers not over (WTF were they thinking with Bobby Roode?!). TNA is heading down a dangerous path if they stay like this.
Ghoul Hunter
12-02-2006, 10:12 PM
I think the total opposite, heh. Oh well.
simplephotographinthesun
12-05-2006, 01:17 AM
we'll see what happens to TNA when RVD and sabu sign in late 2007
Vince finally fired Paul Heyman, its not looking good for ECW:
Heymans gone.
RVD and Sabu will probably be gone soon.
Tommy Dreamer is apparently fed up with the WWEECW.
Big Show is retiring soon.
Oh dear.
lunchforthesky
12-05-2006, 07:59 PM
Its not going to be long until theres no real ECW guys left. On the plus side TNA will get such a wealth of talent that hopefully they will get closer to WWE and either surpass them or make WWE put some effort in like WCW did back in the day.
TNA will never take over WWE in the wrestling game. Ever. I would bet money on it. They have better talent, they are sure expanding at the moment, and they don't have as much to cram into 60 minutes.
I'm not surprised about ECW either. The only good news about it is CM Punk will give Raw a bit more when Vince realizes how much reception he gets from the crowd. Other than that I don't care. I watched it once and never again. That said though, I hope they do another One Night Stand next year and give Paul control of it like this year's. One of my favourite PPVs of the year, in all of wrestling.
And I hope to god TNA doesn't get ECW rejects. Sabu, Sandman, Dreamer, RVD, they don't need them, and quite frankly it would just make TNA look bad. It's as if they can't get talent unless the wrestler has WWE stamped somewhere in their resume.
Ghoul Hunter
12-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Sandman is one of my favorite all time wrestlers, he'd be awesome in TNA.
ThrashMaster27
12-05-2006, 10:57 PM
A lot of them have already been in TNA anyway. Sandman and Sabu have been in TNA aswell as a load of other ex-ECW wrestlers. They generally get lodged into hardcore matches, with the exception of Raven, who bleeds every TNA match anyway.
WWECW is crap. It's just Smackdown! with the ECW originals acting as jobbers. I mean, I can understand Dreamer being a jobber, he's actually good at it, but Sabu? they've turned him into a joke. He's not Homicidal, Suicidal or Genecidal anymore, he's just wank. Is this Heyman thing kayfabe or what? I can't tell anymore.
misfitsfan1990
12-07-2006, 05:29 AM
Everything in wrestling is going to pot just now, WWECW is dying WWE has been dead to me for a long time and with Russo slowly killing off TNA what are we going to be left with?
In the very near future i can see myself around the TV set with only IWW to solice my wrestling needs.
I can write and i can wrestle but no matter how hard i try i cannot get a meeting with anyone, if only someone would listen to the people who have watched wrestling all their life and have had a good response to thier ideas from their peers they might get somewhere or mabey not eh?
lunchforthesky
12-07-2006, 05:46 AM
RVD, Dreamer, Sabu and Sandman might suck in WWE but in TNA where they would be allowed to do what they did in ECW they would be amazing.
Ghoul Hunter
12-07-2006, 10:44 AM
TNA tonight :). God, i'm obsessed, haha.
Yeah, TNA has Vince Russo written all over it now.
I don't get this whole thing of TNA waging war with WWE though. Surely they don't think they are big enough to compete?! First The James Gang on Vince and DX, now The Truth on Cena. What do they hope to accomplish with this?
Oh, and TNA officially don't have the right to call DX's antics stupid now that Eric Young Vs Ms. Brooks in a bikini contest has been added to Turning Point.
I'll keep watching TNA. Who knows, it could still be awesome. Sabin and Styles turning heel, LAX/AMW should be awesome, Kurt/Joe should be as well. There's still good reason to watch.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xq8_DNZklE
I miss him performing :(
Ghoul Hunter
12-07-2006, 08:04 PM
The Rock is one of, if not the overall, best charismatic wrestler ever.
Tonight's Impact was great. I didn't see Angle doing that to Joe, but it'll be interested to see where this leads.
simplephotographinthesun
12-11-2006, 02:38 PM
cage, sting, styles, joe, abyss, angle, jarrett (ugh), killings (if they want to keep him), and rhyno could make up a fun heavyweight division to watch
Turning Point was bar none the best TNA PPV of the year for me, especially after the lackbuster last few.
5-man match was awesome, although I still think TNA is screwing over Alex Shelley way too much.
Sabin/Daniels was a great match with some great strings of moves too. Would've loved to see the hesitation dropkick but oh well, still cool to watch. I'd have liked to see Sabin get the title, since it feels like this little cocky thing of his is for nothing after this time, but Daniels is awesome as the champ too.
AJ/Rhino, that was an interesting match. I guess AJ's heel change is pretty much over now after that rather convincing acting from him. Hell, I believed it! Good job AJ, I think he'd make a sweet heel (Although it's not like TNA needs anymore really).
LAX/AMW was cool too. I'm so glad LAX won too, since they are one of the best tag teams around today. I just love the crappy commentating in TNA though. When Gail Kim moonsaults off the top rope onto Homicide they cheer, but when Konnan hits Storm on when he's getting the flag it's interference. Good job, guys.
Cage/Sting/Abyss. I like Christian as a heel as well, he plays it so perfectly. That said, this whole Sting/Abyss thing isn't as interesting as I'd have hoped. I get that the heavyweight division needs stuff like that to make it entertaining, but still, Abyss should quit with the hardcore stuff I think. He's vicious enough.
Joe/Angle was just legendary though, and probably the only match I have a real problem with. That thing with the low blow and the chair was so out of place in a match hyped up like that, especially since it topped their first match. The repeated submission holds, lots of throws and mat wrestling.
I swear Vince Russo is going to kill TNA soon. It doesn't need this much drama in every match. Like what was going on with Jerry Lynn and Daniels? Where did that come from?
I'll also admit that I skipped Eric Young and Ms. Brooks and VKM's little stint, because quite frankly it's embarassing for this company, one that's slogan is "This is wrestling".
Ghoul Hunter
12-12-2006, 11:49 AM
It looked like a great PPV. I was hoping for a few different outcomes though, Rhino beating AJ and AMW beating LAX. I wouldn't mind Sting getting the title back though, but I like him and Abyss equally.
Next RAW is going to be a 3-hour event starting at 8PM EST... and will feature a 30-man over-the-top battle royal!
/is a HUGE battle royal mark
Ghoul Hunter
12-12-2006, 12:02 PM
Niiiiice. I missed it last night. Anything good happen?
Junooni
12-12-2006, 12:48 PM
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It looked like a great PPV. I was hoping for a few different outcomes though, Rhino beating AJ and AMW beating LAX. I wouldn't mind Sting getting the title back though, but I like him and Abyss equally.
I'm really glad LAX won. TNA have pushed them a lot, and no offence since they are an awesome tag team, but AMW are not a good face team. LAX are just better heels at the moment though.
Ghoul Hunter
12-12-2006, 12:57 PM
LAX just annoys the living hell out of me, haha. It's weird, since when I was really young I used to love Konnan.
Haha I love them! But then again I've always been a sucker for heels. They are more fun to watch I think. But yeah, their teamwork has only grown. Hell, did you hear the crowd reception when Cornette threatened to take away their titles?! For a heel tag team they got so much positive response.
Anyway, where did Team 3D go? I thought they were mounting a comeback for the titles and now they have disappeared.
Niiiiice. I missed it last night. Anything good happen?
No. It was a pretty bad RAW, but I'll try to put a positive spin on it:
The reuniting of Charlie Hass and Shelton Benjamin was awesome, although I have to laugh at Shelton being really confused during the match's final spot, when Hass had Rory on the ropes...
"Come on, Shelton, what are you doing?!"
You could hear it clear as day on TV, it was funny as hell.
After that, what was there? The Umaga/Hardy match wasn't too bad, surprisingly. It wasn't a glorified squash... Hardy got a lot of offense in (and even hit the swanton) but apparently Umaga is too tough for that. This is why I'll be pissed if Cena pins him with an FU/STFU submission.
I like how they're furthering the Masters/Carlito feud... sort of. Always good to see the King in decent ring shape for a guy getting up there. He holds his own and looks pretty limber for an older dude. It was Carlito/King vs. Masters/Viscera. Carlito and King won.
Victoria ain't the lady to mess with! She crushed Torrie pretty badly. Afterwards, Masters came out and put the Crapsterlock on Torrie, causing Carlito to make the save.
The DX/RKO stuff I am losing care in, to be honest. I don't want to say it's getting stale because it's SUPPOSED to be an important feud, but I'm not getting much out of it anymore. It became a HHH/Edge match, to Orton causing a DQ, to HBK coming out to even the score, then Kenny came in with a chair, and then WOOOOOOOOOOO came in and starting chopping everybody in the chest and dancing. Coach declared a six-man tag.
Armando/Cena was tiresome. Armando tried getting out of the match, but Cena wouldn't have any of it and FU'd him after about three seconds. Then he put on the STFU, causing Nitro to come out and talk some smack about K-Fed. The main event was Nitro/Cena, but it was the same match they've been having - Cena's on the defense, then hits the shoulder block, then the swinging slam, then the five knuckle shuffle, then the FU, etc.
Someone remind me why K-Fed is so important - it can't possibly equal ratings now that Britney dumped that shmuck.
Anyway, 30-man battle royal is going to be awesome, even though RAW only has 25 or so people on the roster, including the tag teams. I wonder who the other five positions will be.
Ghoul Hunter
12-12-2006, 01:19 PM
and then WOOOOOOOOOOO came in and starting chopping everybody in the chest and dancing. That really never gets old to me :p
EDIT: Check your rep.
ThrashMaster27
12-13-2006, 11:08 PM
That really never gets old to me :p
EDIT: Check your rep.
It gets old when EVERYONE does it for over 3 hours and then after the show when you're getting the train home!
30 man Battle Royale eh? sounds like a good idea. No doubt they'll be a few suprise guests popping in. Maybe Bob Backlund again... haha, he was so funny.... Mr. Backlund.
WWE used to have some great vignettes. Most of them are just crap these days.
I didn't even know Raw had 30 wrestlers.
Junooni
12-14-2006, 03:37 PM
hahah WOOOOOOOOO
that reminds me of the time after a DC United Game literally everyone on the Metro was doing the DC UNITED chant. It was something else.
I didn't even know Raw had 30 wrestlers.
They don't - not counting Umaga, who can't touch Cena until NYR, RAW has 24 active wrestlers that aren't divas. This means that we could see some Smackdown/ECW wrestlers... maybe CM Punk, Matt Hardy, Booker, Finlay, and maybe a debuting Monty Brown and Harry Smith to make it 30.
Ghoul Hunter
12-14-2006, 07:14 PM
Kurt Angle has lost it. He's one craaaaaazy nigga.
Ghoul Hunter
12-14-2006, 07:51 PM
Wowwwww, that ending was extremely suprising. I liked them too :(
simplephotographinthesun
12-15-2006, 12:45 AM
Joe's gonna kill you!
I wish there would be more matches on TNA that ended properly and without some drama at the end. It's ridiculous. But LAX are still the champs and Kurt has gone insane, so I'm good.
Ghoul Hunter
12-15-2006, 09:41 AM
You got your way with LAX bastard! :p
I may get passes for TNA. Universal Studios (where they film it on Tuesdays) is like 2 hours away from me.
simplephotographinthesun
12-17-2006, 11:47 PM
poor joey mercury :(
That looked so brutal. It's funny, he goes away to rehab, comes back, and then gets re-punished by having to sit out 2-3 months so they can fix his face.
[Nightbreak]
12-18-2006, 12:04 PM
Seen it on youtube, looked harsh!
Ghoul Hunter
12-18-2006, 02:00 PM
That PPV was good. Hooray for my two current (and all time really) faves 'Taker and Kane winning their matches.
Armageddon looked like a good PPV, which is really rare for a Smackdown event.
There are rumours about Wrestlemania which are just making me sick to my stomach too. I won't say anything in here since there's no spoiler tags or anything, but needless to say if it goes down I will be very unhappy.
Ghoul Hunter
12-18-2006, 02:07 PM
Really? From what i've heard it looks pretty good.
Looks like there'll be a great Raw tonight :)
HumanCannonball
12-18-2006, 02:59 PM
The ladder match was GRUESOME. Unbelievable.
Update on Joey Mercury
December 18, 2006
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/309846/1692656/3749300/joey.jpg
Joey Mercury’s face, a raw, inflamed mess with blood still seeping out from his stitches, was scarlet red around his nose and left eye with hundreds of flakes of dry blood clinging to various places on his face.
“I’ve shattered my nose around the bridge area,” said a bruised and swollen Mercury, who was severely injured at last night’s Armageddon pay-per-view in a Ladder Match. “I have four fractures on the inside of my nose; I have 5 stitches on the inside of my nose and my cheek and 15 stitches on the outside of my nose and cheek. My left eye is swollen shut and I have continual internal bleeding from my nose and my eye.”
To Mercury’s credit, the injury that would have knocked most people out cold only left him momentarily stunned.
“I remember everything [about the incident],” he said. “I never lost consciousness and I never passed out.”
Asked what it felt like when the legs of the ladder dug into his face and ripped a gaping hole down his nose and under his eye, he thought long and hard before he spoke.
“I have nothing to compare it to; I’ve never been hit that hard in the face before,” he said as he paused. “I’d have to say it felt like a hundred-pound steel ladder connecting with my face at one-hundred miles per hour; or going head first through a windshield of a car without a seatbelt on; maybe getting hit in the face with a baseball bat swung by Sammy Sosa.”
Mercury made it clear it was the outcome of the match, not the injury, that was on his mind the day after the ghastly incident.
“Had I not been forced to leave the match due to a severe amount of blood loss, MNM would be the WWE Tag Team Champions,” he said. “Again, we made it clear that MNM is the greatest tag team in the modern era – not The Hardys.”
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Jesus tapdancing christ.
Besides that great match there was NOTHING else good on that PPV.
Kane vs. MVP - boring
Wang vs. Helms - boring
Miz - Boogeyman - Gruesome but not in a positive way
Cena/Batista vs. Finlay/King Booker - awful due to Batista
Undertaker vs. Kennedy - Wow, he buried again another talent. The Taker hasn't made ANY talent since Brock Lesnar and that's the only guy, granted he had to work against **** like Heidenreich, Khali, etc. etc. but still, he could at least have put Orton over at WM21
The Divas - don't get me even started on this one
I'm so done with the WWE. I haven't watched a full tv show in 2 years and only purchased 4-5 PPV's this year (3 of them were crap). They are simple not worth my money.
That money now goes out to TNA and RING OF HONOR.
Ghoul Hunter
12-18-2006, 03:56 PM
Kane and Undertaker matches were some of the best i've seen.
I haven't seen RoH since Death Before Dishonor IV (I think it's IV). But I know what's going on, and it's a pretty safe bet that Homicide will be champ by the end of the year.
I wish they'd released Region 2 DVDs of these companies.
Ghoul Hunter
12-19-2006, 07:04 AM
Last night's main event was one of the best matches i've seen since i've started watching wrestling.
I just started watching Armageddon, and that ladder match is some of the best wrestling I've seen in WWE in a long time. It's the first time I've seen London and Kendrick too, and they work really well. I'm glad they won actually, since they actually have a lot of talent.
The ladder match at Armageddon was arguably one of the best ladder matches in the history of the WWE, maybe behind the Dudleys/Edge and Christian/Hardy Boyz/Benoit and Jericho ladder match. Or was it a TLC match? I can't remember, but that was one of the best gimmick matches ever.
Mercury's face looks so messed up, though. I couldn't recognize him in the photo, even though in my head I knew who it was supposed to be.
Ghoul Hunter
12-19-2006, 12:31 PM
Yeah, that match was amazing. I really hope Mercury can make it back alright. He's a good athlete.
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12-20-2006, 04:01 PM
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That's what I've heard as well, and the person who everyone expects to win the title won't, and that's what is pissing me off about this rumour.
Ghoul Hunter
12-20-2006, 07:46 PM
Taker?
If he won the title, then i'd be all :D for week :p
Nope, I've heard Batista will be winning and ending Taker's WM streak.
Ghoul Hunter
12-21-2006, 09:53 AM
Ah, I see. As much as I like Batista and respect him, I'd never want that.
lunchforthesky
12-21-2006, 10:22 AM
Who's gonna be the heel cause i doubt they'd book a face on face match for wrestlemania.
Ghoul Hunter
12-21-2006, 10:34 AM
I don't think Taker could ever be seen as a true heel, haha.
If it happens, it's going to be one of the dumbest WM moments ever.
Orton was one of the guys who should have broken the streak, but he got injured before WM and has a bunch of attitude/authority issues. Whoever Taker gives the rub to will make a HUGE jump to superstardom. This is one of those streaks that needs to be broken, but by someone who truly deserves it.
So, why doesn't Batty deserve it?
- Age. I've read that he's 36, 39, 43, 41, 37. The fact that there are a bunch of ages for the dude (that are late 30's - early 40's) is insane. Plus, why put Taker's streak on the line against someone that will likely be out of the company in about five years-ish?
- Injury. Batista is injury-prone - just check out his most recent injury, in which it took him forever to get back to ring shape.
- Attitude. Ever since he got the title, Batista appeared to not really give a **** about performing. You shouldn't need a title to motivate yourself to excel in the performance.
If this match happens, it needs to end on a DQ from somebody to keep the streak intact until Wrestlemania 24, in which somebody will receive a monstrous push to break the streak.
It's like designating Ric Flair to break the streak. Um, why? Flair's already a legend and doesn't need the rub. But the streak, if it's going to be snapped, it needs to happen soon because it's going to de-value the streak. It'll look better to take out Taker while he's at the prime of his career, instead of at Wrestlemania 30 when he's in his fifties, hahaha.
Ghoul Hunter
12-21-2006, 10:42 AM
Simply because Undertaker is like my all time favorite, haha. That's why.
lunchforthesky
12-21-2006, 10:43 AM
I don't think Taker could ever be seen as a true heel, haha.
They could run him as a monster who take sout heels and faces.
Ghoul Hunter
12-21-2006, 10:46 AM
So pretty much like Abyss? That would work probably.
I agree though. If Taker's streak should be broke, it should be someone like Orton thanks to his Legend Killer moniker. If it does happen though, I think that will push Taker back into heel status against Batista for a while.
Besides which, Batista was only entertaining with Evolution in my opinion.
So pretty much like Abyss? That would work probably.
Ha, like the Paul Bearer days. While I'd love to see Taker heel again, it would never happen unless something absolutely huge happened to him. In all of his rivalries in the past few years, I can't remember him not being a fan favourite.
Ghoul Hunter
12-21-2006, 10:50 AM
Exactly, it's hard not to like him, haha. He's just got that Hogan type of style. When he enters, all eyes are on him.
If anything, i'd rather the Kane rumor come true.
ChodaBoy
12-21-2006, 11:01 AM
From the current roster, there are only 4 superstars who could possibly take Takers reign, and really use it.
John Cena - Already been given an amazing push, and one of the most widely talked about wrestlers for a long time (mostly negatively). He's not someone the company are likely to get rid of (unless he shoots Shane...) so this could seriously cement his place.
Edge has also been put up as a main eventer, but but he is certainly no spring chicken.
Randall Keith Orton, apparently very disliked, and if the rumours are true, hes basically asking to get fired. So he is not someone they would want to waste this on.
Mr Kennedy was very popular in his earlier days, but there is quite a divide about what he can actually do now
I can't see Cena ending it. That's just ridiculous considering how much Raw are pushing him.
The best out of them would be Edge I think, since he is undefeated at Wrestlemania as well if I remember correctly.
Yeah, Edge is 5-0 at Wrestlemania. Beating Taker would push him through the glass ceiling and make him one of the most hated superstars in the WWE, meaning he'd be elevated to one of THE most over heels in its history. Kennedy could do it, but he's up there in age, too, I think. But I still think that if it's going to be broken (and I think it should... Taker is a genuinely good worker who knows how the business works, so I think it'll happen), it needs to happen at 23 or 24, 25 at the very latest.
lunchforthesky
12-21-2006, 01:40 PM
I dont think that even a victory over taker' would get edge over anymore than he is. Edge just flat out doesnt cut it at main event status, except maybe in these days of WWE crapness.
ChodaBoy
12-21-2006, 02:39 PM
Well from the ages suggested, only Orton comes anywhere close. He is 26, followed by Cena (29), Kennedy (30), and then Edge (33).
I think all of those should have quite lengthy careers, since they are all in pretty good shape. Saying that, a break wouldnt kill Cena with the schedule he has had in recent months
Ghoul Hunter
12-21-2006, 03:43 PM
I like this plan: Undertaker destroys whoever he faces and keeps winning :D
lunchforthesky
12-21-2006, 03:50 PM
I agree that for his character to work he has to win most of the time or else he becomes a joke like Kane.
But if the right person comes along who is worthy he should but them over from time to time.
Kennedy's only 30? Damn, I thought he was older :o
Ghoul Hunter
12-21-2006, 09:06 PM
Impact was pretty good, though a ton of messups in the main event. The situation with Abyss and Sting is going just how i'd hoped it would :)
What's up with AJ though? He's one of the best the X-Division has, and he's stealing wins? I get they want to turn him heel for a while, but in that tag match he didn't hit one move.
It looks like LAX/Team 3D is pretty much on for Final Resolution as well. I'm torn for who to cheer for now :(
Ghoul Hunter
12-24-2006, 10:38 AM
Team 3D has never let me down since the Dudley Boyz were reigning.
Turning Point is on TWC at the moment, and one thing I absolutely hate about TNA is the commentary. I get that you have to give the heels a bad rep, but it's just poor how they do it sometimes. Critisizing Konnan when he comes in the ring and helps out, yet cheering Gail Kim when she does a ****ing moonsault and then dropkicks Homicide?
I remember when Sabin went out the ring for a breather or something and they basically said there's no rest time in TNA and he should get in the ring. And then AJ did it in another match (I think with Samoa for the X Division title), and they said it was allowed.
Ahhh well.
Ghoul Hunter
12-24-2006, 04:02 PM
It could be worse.
/anti lax babble :p
It's just stupid how blindly they announce though. A few months back, AMW were the most hated tag team in TNA. Now all of a sudden they are getting circlejerked.
That's one point I think WWE has TNA. Commentating only works with a heel and face announcer.
simplephotographinthesun
12-24-2006, 08:37 PM
Turning Point is on TWC at the moment, and one thing I absolutely hate about TNA is the commentary. I get that you have to give the heels a bad rep, but it's just poor how they do it sometimes. Critisizing Konnan when he comes in the ring and helps out, yet cheering Gail Kim when she does a ****ing moonsault and then dropkicks Homicide?
I remember when Sabin went out the ring for a breather or something and they basically said there's no rest time in TNA and he should get in the ring. And then AJ did it in another match (I think with Samoa for the X Division title), and they said it was allowed.
Ahhh well.
**** Don West. i'd take mark madden over him ANYDAY
I knew Homicide would win the ROH championship. I have to see that match now, but the DVD won't be out for months.
Ghoul Hunter
12-27-2006, 08:14 PM
Meh, that wrestling doesn't really interest me at all.
Ghoul Hunter
12-27-2006, 08:30 PM
Uninteresting wrestling where boring LAXers win titles :p
(though TNA did the same, haha)
HumanCannonball
12-28-2006, 05:24 AM
After reading all the feedback for Final Battle there isn't really any reason not to buy. Has to be the greatest Ring of Honor event of all time.
Sadly on TWC we get year-old episodes of ROH, so I kind of have to wait for the DVD. It's coming to Liverpool in April though, might see if I can convince some mates to go. Most of them are into WWE and nothing else, but I've never been to live wrestling before.
Ghoul Hunter
12-28-2006, 07:05 AM
I went to a WCW match in it's a prime. It's amazing to see live. The energy is crazy.
ChodaBoy
12-28-2006, 10:36 AM
I've been to 3 WWE events, and one WCW. They were all great, the atmosphere is always amazing.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/ChodaBoy1/IMAG0263.jpg This was from a house show last year.
It has JBL putting a camel clutch on Cena, while Angle has the ankle lock on too. Stone Cold as special guest referee
That sounds like an awesome match actually. Weird about Stone Cold though, is that what he's been reduced to? Guest refereeing at house shows?
More matches for Final Resolution, which are exactly the same matches as Turning Point. Angle/Joe, Abyss/Sting/Cage and Styles/Rhino. Exactly the same except Styles/Rhino is last man standing. Probably will be my highlight of the night from that stipulation. That match is going to be brutal.
CombatRock
12-29-2006, 01:13 AM
Stone cold is the best wrestler ever
hes the dallas cowboys of wrestling.
Ghoul Hunter
12-29-2006, 10:35 AM
Stone Cold is the man. He needs to make a return, but I believe he's got some injuries.
ThrashMaster27
12-29-2006, 10:14 PM
Stone Cold will never be in the ring again. That's why he's been used in different formats (ECW One Night Stand, Commisioner, Beer Drinking Contests, etc).
He can't wrestle anymore because of the broken neck he received when Owen Hart botched a reverse Piledriver on him. Apparently he's had neck problems ever since, which caused him to retire... albeit not completely.
I want Death Before Dishonour 4 :( ROH vs CZW in a Cage of Death match! that's my kinda thing.
Ghoul Hunter
12-29-2006, 11:15 PM
The man in your avatar cures my itch for Stone Cold, haha.
CombatRock
12-29-2006, 11:22 PM
Theres always a small chance he will return.
I live in his hometown btw.
simplephotographinthesun
01-01-2007, 01:43 PM
I went to a WCW match in it's a prime. It's amazing to see live. The energy is crazy.
after the main event of every Nitro, i remember seeing the fans completely burying the ring with trash. i also remember mean gene slipping and going down to the heavy amount of beer thrown in
Ghoul Hunter
01-01-2007, 01:44 PM
Not a fan I take it? Heh.
simplephotographinthesun
01-01-2007, 01:56 PM
Not a fan I take it? Heh.
oh believe me, I loved every minute of WCW in its prime
Ghoul Hunter
01-01-2007, 01:59 PM
I loved it all my life, mainly because I grew up watching it, haha.
HumanCannonball
01-02-2007, 06:33 AM
WCW in the early 90's was awesome.
So many awesome workers there. Flair, Steiners, Sting, Freebirds, Pillman, Liger, Double A, Matt Bourne, The Road Warriors, Muta, PAUL HEYMAN as Paul E.Dangerously. An insane amount of great talent.
simplephotographinthesun
01-03-2007, 05:12 PM
I loved it all my life, mainly because I grew up watching it, haha.
3 hour Nitro telecasts during the summer time when it was held outdoors = :thumb:
Ghoul Hunter
01-03-2007, 06:56 PM
:chug: yepyep
simplephotographinthesun
01-04-2007, 12:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKZSqmRYUYQ
good times.
Ghoul Hunter
01-04-2007, 12:11 AM
Nice vid. Sting was/is the man.
simplephotographinthesun
01-04-2007, 12:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reWAcBbRCZ4
wow...Karl Malone?
Ghoul Hunter
01-04-2007, 12:41 AM
That match was epppiiiic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ly7ZqiijtQ is awesome too
Ghoul Hunter
01-04-2007, 05:35 AM
Don't know if anyone here has played the game Wrestling Encore, but I got it today and have lolled for hours. It's really fun though. This was the end of a match I had earlier :lol: : http://i10.tinypic.com/404rn21.jpg
simplephotographinthesun
01-04-2007, 01:27 PM
what the ****?
iam2000pounds
01-04-2007, 04:14 PM
Don't know if anyone here has played the game Wrestling Encore, but I got it today and have lolled for hours. It's really fun though. This was the end of a match I had earlier :lol: : http://i10.tinypic.com/404rn21.jpg
Lol, his arm is gone!
loathed
01-04-2007, 07:00 PM
where do you get that game!?
Ghoul Hunter
01-05-2007, 12:10 AM
Google the name of it, Wrestling Encore, and you'll find a demo and a trial. It's awesome.
Final Resolution is shaping up to be everything Turning Point wasn't. I'm psyched for it now.
Ghoul Hunter
01-05-2007, 08:23 PM
Yeah, it's sounds amazing so far.
pikester
01-07-2007, 12:55 AM
Yeah, it's sounds amazing so far.
They always SOUND amazing, and then are booked terribly.
Ghoul Hunter
01-07-2007, 01:31 AM
Meh, i've never had a problem with any since I started watching again.
gaslight
01-08-2007, 03:13 PM
Sucks to be Triple H, another quadricep tear and he's out for 6-8 months.
Looks like they'll need to rebook Wrestlemania.
ChodaBoy
01-08-2007, 04:15 PM
I have a bit of respect for him continuing the match despite clearly knowing something was very wrong. But I would rather he just told Michaels and the ref what was going on, and let Michaels do some more craziness, rather than perform multiple pedigree's
simplephotographinthesun
01-08-2007, 10:57 PM
Sucks to be Triple H, another quadricep tear and he's out for 6-8 months.
Looks like they'll need to rebook Wrestlemania.
i think they're right on course with a cena snorefest
gaslight
01-09-2007, 12:07 AM
I think it should be John Cena vs Umaga vs Hulk Hogan vs Brock Lesnar in a No Holds Known match.
pikester
01-09-2007, 12:40 AM
I think it should be John Cena vs Umaga vs Hulk Hogan vs Brock Lesnar in a No Holds Known match.
Yes.
Last night's show was easily one of the worst RAWs ever. Is this WCW all over again?
gaslight
01-09-2007, 08:28 AM
The whole Rosie V Donald thing showed typical McMahon tact.
hollymolly
01-09-2007, 07:45 PM
Have you guys seen her early stuff before and her stuff today (from eye candy to an actual wrestler)? The change is amazing. She would be a tough competitor in this upcoming show on CBS “Armed and Famous” where she will train to become a cop in Indiana. Her fights against guy wrestlers can prove that she can fight those criminals out in the streets.
pikester
01-10-2007, 02:01 AM
Um... ok?
Ghoul Hunter
01-10-2007, 07:32 AM
So guys, here's my thought about the current DX thing.
I think that come Monday, Michaels will suprise RKO by saying he's got a partner for the past-handicap match, and will come out with X-Pac (as a new member of DX). I've seen similiar rumors and this is setting up for it perfectly. If so, then :D
X-Pac is for some reason completely hated by WWE fans. McMahon would never bring him in again.
Ghoul Hunter
01-10-2007, 01:03 PM
Eh, I've never noticed a ton of hate really. Most people I know really want him back.
I think he'll return. Who else would join DX? I mean, just having Shawn there for like 6 months will make it fade out.
I honestly don't care for DX now. Even as a tag team, they are limiting two headliners so much. It just makes sense to kill DX now before they do something too hideous and turn it into another joke like they did with NWO.
Triple H will probably turn heel when he comes back I think anyway. If not I'll be wicked pissed.
gaslight
01-10-2007, 02:38 PM
Does Sean Waltman still even wrestle? Last I heard of him he was getting the crap beat out of him by Joanie Laurer.
He was a cool guy way back in the day though.
HumanCannonball
01-11-2007, 03:20 PM
1. Sean "X-Pac" Waltman has a contract with Wrestling Society X, the new MTV Wrestling project (which looks absolutely over the top and awesome, check out the trailer on the mtv homepage).
2. The first thing the fans would chant would be "X-Pac sucks" and they chant that since centuries.
3. Michaels said it by himself that he needs a back surgery pretty soon, that **** is killing him he said. I guess Rated RKO will just do a helacious beatdown to put him out of action.
Ghoul Hunter
01-11-2007, 04:03 PM
Then did everyone start cheering "X-Pac! X-Pac! X-Pac!" at the end of last Monday's Raw? Haha. I hold my claim.
Ghoul Hunter
01-14-2007, 02:59 PM
I must say, Final Resolution looks to possibly be the greatest PPV i've been alive for. The entire card is just flawless. I'll be ordering it in a few hours :D
CityOfEvil
01-14-2007, 04:13 PM
So guys, here's my thought about the current DX thing.
I think that come Monday, Michaels will suprise RKO by saying he's got a partner for the past-handicap match, and will come out with X-Pac (as a new member of DX). I've seen similiar rumors and this is setting up for it perfectly. If so, then :D
That would be so nice! But I think if HBK show up alone it will be the end of DX :(
Ghoul Hunter
01-14-2007, 05:04 PM
I've still got my bet that it'll be what happens :)
Anyone want me to make a post editing in the results of FR?
FR looks incredibly good. I love the amount of heat AJ gets now. Even when he comes to the ring, people chant "AJ sucks! AJ sucks!". You never hear that kind of thing in TNA when people are making entrances.
Ghoul Hunter
01-14-2007, 05:09 PM
Yeah, haha. He's a good heel. I hope Rhino destroys him though, haha.
Here's my predictions for FR:
Abyss/Cage/Sting - Sting pins Abyss (I'd prefer Abyss to win, but you can't have it both ways).
Joe/Angle - Joe makes Angle tap.
Styles/Rhyno - Rhino for sure. I think it will be a very brutal match.
Daniels/Sabin/Lynn - Daniels pins Lynn. I think this might set up a bit of a fued between them after the out of the blue ending at TP.
LAX/3D - 3D will 3D (Heh) Homicide. With Konnan out of action, LAX will die down a bit now.
Shelley/Starr - Starr with a 450 splash. He's gonna be the major player in the X Division this year, no doubt about it.
Storm/Williams - Storm will win this one I think, not sure how though.
Anyone else watching should post up their predictions, the one with the most will be repped.
Ghoul Hunter
01-14-2007, 05:24 PM
I'm down with the repping.
Abyss/Cage/Sting - Cage beats Abyss after Abyss beats Sting.
Joe/Angle - Angle.
Styles/Rhyno - Rhino.
Daniels/Sabin/Lynn - Sabin.
LAX/3D - 3D
Storm/Williams - Williams.
Not how I personally want it to go, but I expect that.
By the way, Shelley vs. Starr? What's that?
On the Lynn match, I'm really wanting to be wrong and for him to win. When he exploded a few weeks back on TNA he really got things pretty heated. It was awesome. He's a great guy too, I've met him + got his autograph :D
Ghoul Hunter
01-14-2007, 06:17 PM
Results of Final Resolution so far:
Rhino vs. AJ Styles - Rhino
Styles sat back down right before getting up at around 8, and Rhino won. Rhino chased him down though after leaving and is now beating the hell out of him.
Sabin vs. Lynn vs. Daniels - Sabin
Lynn had Daniels set to get pinned, and then Sabin came behind and rolled up Lynn and got the 3 count.
Shelley vs. Starr - Shelley
At first it was a draw at 10 minutes, then Nash said it'd go for another 5. In about 8 seconds, shelley rolled him up for the win.
Williams vs. Storm - Storm
Reversed Williams and got the pin.
After the match, Storm handuffed Williams to the turnbuckle and was going to attack him but then Gail Kim lowblowed Storm. Right before Kim hit Storm with the beer bottle, Jacqueline came out and helped Storm beat the hell out of Kim.
Team 3D vs. LAX - LAX
3D got DQ'd because Runt came out and got into the fight.
Joe vs. Angle - Angle
At 3 - 2 Angle, Joe put him in his own ankle lock, but Angle stayed and didn't tap out for the remaining 20 or so seconds.
Abyss vs. Sting vs. Cage - Cage
Wow, I can't even describe this. This match has been all over.
================
I'll edit it as big things happen, but probably just match start + ending.
All 3 champs I wanted to be?! Surely not! Sabin, LAX and Cage ftw :D
I'm hugely annoyed at Runt coming in though. That match was really good, and it ended with pointless drama. Lynn/Daniels/Sabin and Angle/Joe though, that was just amazing. I'm just a sucker for the hesitation dropkick
Ghoul Hunter
01-15-2007, 03:05 PM
That dropkick was ****ing crazy, man. I'm let down a bit by all the title matches though. I was hoping it'd be Lynn + 3D + Sting (with Abyss slamming Mitchell and Cage, letting him win).
Good news though, rematch for the tag team titles Thursday :D
I'm glad Abyss isn't siding with Sting though. Abyss gets cheers because he does these things, there's no reason to turn him face.
But Sabin, Cage and LAX's victories were just so unexpected. Fair enough, all 3 were cheap, but still giving the titles to 3 heels is pretty gutsy.
I can expect all 3 titles to be lost before AAO.
Ghoul Hunter
01-15-2007, 06:17 PM
I see your point there, I still have hope though :p
I think that 3D will get the titles Thursday, and maybe Daniels will regain his sometime. I'm mainly assuming there'll be a match of Sabin vs. Lynn though, since they'll work in Lynn getting cheated out of it probably. I doubt Cage will lose his until AAO. It's set perfect for Angle to get the title from him at AAO, with Angle turning face again (though never really was a straight heel).
CityOfEvil
01-15-2007, 07:31 PM
One of my friend told me that Triple H was suppose to win the Royal Rumble but they have to change plans because of his injured.
Sorry got no proofs of that.
Ghoul Hunter
01-15-2007, 07:34 PM
You watching right now?
I'm telling you guys. X-Pac tonight! Haha.
CityOfEvil
01-15-2007, 07:40 PM
No here its start at 10.
That would be nice but I dont think that it will happens. Hope someone else come and help HBK.
Ghoul Hunter
01-15-2007, 07:44 PM
I won't spoil it for you, but i'll say this. Someone that I guess was planning on helping him got annihilated by RKO, and they pretty much said they'll do the same to anyone else who tries to help.
CityOfEvil
01-15-2007, 07:50 PM
I guess its Ric Flair. And they like hit him a thousand time with a steel chair and he was bleedin like no one in this world. lol
If its not him and dont know who it is :lol:
Ghoul Hunter
01-15-2007, 07:52 PM
Nah, not Flair. Think younger, but still a legend. Wood + American flag too.
CityOfEvil
01-15-2007, 07:56 PM
Oh no! not him! not the guy who was in team with Eugene?!?! I hate that guy!
Ghoul Hunter
01-15-2007, 07:59 PM
You thinking of Jim Duggan?
CityOfEvil
01-15-2007, 08:02 PM
Yeah thats his name. Wood + America its him no?
Ghoul Hunter
01-15-2007, 08:03 PM
Correct, hah.
I love Duggan. He hasn't been around much lately though.
CityOfEvil
01-15-2007, 08:08 PM
Yeah youre right. But i dont like him. Not for a particular reason.
But what the hell he's doing helping HBK? :lol:
It begin at the moment, with my fav.. Cena :)
Ghoul Hunter
01-16-2007, 01:11 PM
Cena definitely start the show out amazingly. He's an excellent crowd pleaser.
Edge Vs. Orton is so happening soon.
CityOfEvil
01-16-2007, 02:48 PM
It seems like DX still alive. I was sure that it was the end but Hbk surprised me.
Ghoul Hunter
01-16-2007, 05:29 PM
HBK is the man :cool: The ending to RAW was awesome.
Edge Vs. Orton is so happening soon.
After that push that sent Edge into Orton, I figured something would/will happen.
Tonight i'm looking forward to RVD becoming ECW champ.
/fingerscrossed
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