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craig
06-08-2004, 03:30 PM
Oh ok, I bet he's a really good actor aswell
brycey
06-08-2004, 04:17 PM
You don't have a clue about wrestling, plus you have many stereotypical views, so I think it's best you'd shut up.
You know what's funny? When edge and Chris Benoit were fighting the french guys all of the American fans were doing their stupid USA chant thing. But Edge and Chris Beniot are both Canadian.
WWE fans=Not the brightest bunch.
brycey
06-08-2004, 05:07 PM
You know what's funny? When edge and Chris Benoit were fighting the french guys all of the American fans were doing their stupid USA chant thing. But Edge and Chris Beniot are both Canadian.
WWE fans=Not the brightest bunch.
:lol:
Dumbasses.
Ganondorf
06-09-2004, 12:47 AM
:lol:
pwn ;)
JAStewart
06-09-2004, 09:00 AM
Hardys > Edge And Christian > Dudley Gays.
Edge is cool on his own.
Christian has a cool finisher.
Actually they do official drug tests in the WWE and if an entertianer is found to be taking drugs, then he is fired. A few have been fired like this. Jeff Hardys was fired for taking speed ONCE. I'd like to make that clear. ONCE.
He's a professional sports / entertainment star.
He shouldn't have took it even once.
Some people though, who take muscle enhancing drugs, I feel shouldn't be fired...maybe just banned for a while.
Dan
JAStewart
06-09-2004, 09:07 AM
WWE fans=Not the brightest bunch.
Best [now a quote] ever!
Jeff might be back at Summerslam if everything works out alright.
crossface
06-09-2004, 09:09 AM
stacy keibler is hot! :naughty: her legs is longer than my 24fret guitar :D :thumb:
favorite new generation wrestler - Brock Lesnar :cool: ..... but he quitd to join NFL :angry:
Originally Posted by rock not roll
You know what's funny? When edge and Chris Benoit were fighting the french guys all of the American fans were doing their stupid USA chant thing. But Edge and Chris Beniot are both Canadian.
WWE fans=Not the brightest bunch.
:lol: ehehehehe :lol:
Volkert314
06-09-2004, 09:21 AM
You know what's funny? When edge and Chris Benoit were fighting the french guys all of the American fans were doing their stupid USA chant thing. But Edge and Chris Beniot are both Canadian.
WWE fans=Not the brightest bunch.
They were chanting it to piss off the French. It's like when Kurt was a face and the fans still chanted "You Suck" to his music
Volkert314
06-09-2004, 09:23 AM
Hardys > Edge And Christian > Dudley Gays.
Edge is cool on his own.
Christian has a cool finisher.
Actually they do official drug tests in the WWE and if an entertianer is found to be taking drugs, then he is fired. A few have been fired like this. Jeff Hardys was fired for taking speed ONCE. I'd like to make that clear. ONCE.
Actually, it's been on numerous occasions. As well as he would come to shows late as well as missing dates. They wanted him to go into rehab, but he refused so they fired him.
Also the reasons for the firing of Ron Simmons, Brian Christopher(first time), Road Dogg
brycey
06-09-2004, 10:30 AM
Did Brock Lesnar leave? I just realised I haven't seen him in a while. Did he leave for the NFL?
Ganondorf
06-09-2004, 10:41 AM
did HHH try to make everyone hate HBK when HBK was injured for a few years? Is this why they hate each other?
chumpradio
06-09-2004, 10:47 AM
At the weekend I am getting WWE Raw 2 for Xbox.
I have watched wrestling once in a few months, but even if I don't like wrestling I will enjoy the game probably, because in the past wrestling games have been great entertainment.
Ganondorf
06-09-2004, 10:48 AM
haha, I'm bored........what song would you use as your WWE entrance theme? [/lame]
Lostprophets - We Are Godzilla, You Are Japan
At the weekend I am getting WWE Raw 2 for Xbox.
I have watched wrestling once in a few months, but even if I don't like wrestling I will enjoy the game probably, because in the past wrestling games have been great entertainment.
Smackdown > Raw.
Only in the games though :upset:
chumpradio
06-09-2004, 10:54 AM
I can't get smackdown on Xbox though.
I used to have Smackdown 1 and 2 for the Playstation, they were cool.
My wrestling would be :
Rage Against The Machine - Calm Like A Bomb (But start at the What ya say what ya say what ya say what? bit, because it would be cool)
chumpradio
06-09-2004, 10:58 AM
Are Smackdown and Raw pretty much different things completely now?
With different wrestlers, champions etc?
Ganondorf
06-09-2004, 11:13 AM
I think so, but I don't watch it anymore
brycey
06-09-2004, 11:16 AM
Raw and Smackdown are completely different, although they try and take some wrestlers from Smackdown and put them on Raw, and vice-versa.
chumpradio
06-09-2004, 11:16 AM
I was just thinking how cool it would be if you just hear Zack de la Rocha's voice shout "What ya say, What ya say, What ya say What?" dead loud, and then the heavy music comes in and the wrestler starts walking in, it would work like an actual wrestlers song. When I get the game, I am putting that song as my entrance theme.
Ganondorf
06-09-2004, 11:22 AM
can you do that on the game?
Raining Blood would be a good theme song for someone like Kane
chumpradio
06-09-2004, 11:35 AM
Yeah, I was looking at reviews and because of Xbox's hard drive you can set your own music.
I don't think XPac is on it, and he used to be my favourite wrestler.
I will create him, and get the DX music set for him.
how did owen hart die exactly? was it real?
chumpradio
06-09-2004, 11:41 AM
He was going to be lowered into the ring or something at a pay per view event, and he was on the scaffholding near the roof.
He fell off, and when he fell he broke his kneck on a turnbuckle.
He died after that.
i just downloaded a movie, and it shows him being thrown off by some guy....is this the real movie?
chumpradio
06-09-2004, 11:55 AM
No
Are you sure it's not mankind being thrown off the hell in a cell?
Volkert314
06-09-2004, 11:59 AM
Did Brock Lesnar leave? I just realised I haven't seen him in a while. Did he leave for the NFL?
Yes, Lesnar's last match was against FagBerg at WrestleMania 20. He lost and flipped off the crowd cause they were giving him heat for leaving.
crossface
06-09-2004, 09:10 PM
how did owen hart die exactly? was it real?
Owen's character was "the Blue Blazer" at that time, he was being lowered by a metal rope or sumthing... the rope snapped... and his head fell in the turnbuckle
The audience thought it was part of a story line.... the medics came to the ring, and Jim Ross came to the ring he said "Folks, this is not a story, This is Real!"
He was carried out by a stretcher, but the audience didnt know... Owen Hart/The Blue Blazer died in the ring
the reports said, he fell at almost 25 feet, but according to the audience who saw the whole thing... it was more like 60 feet
el doctor
06-09-2004, 09:12 PM
On a related note to wrestling, TNA is finally on regular cable. After I lost PPV, I couldn't watch anymore. :)
Ganondorf
06-10-2004, 12:38 AM
I just remembered the Radicalz
Eddide Guerrero
Chris Benoit
Dean Malenko
Perry Saturn
were these the Four Hoursemen?
Black Ink
06-10-2004, 12:53 AM
how did owen hart die exactly? was it real?
He was owened. L
/reference few will get
JAStewart
06-10-2004, 07:50 AM
Your sick ^ :lol:
My entry:
Primus - Golden Boy
Volkert314
06-10-2004, 09:56 AM
I just remembered the Radicalz
Eddide Guerrero
Chris Benoit
Dean Malenko
Perry Saturn
were these the Four Hoursemen?
No, the Four Horsemen were:
Ric Flair
Arn Anderson
Ole Anderson
Tully Blanchard
They've had other inceptions and different memebers but that's still the best
brycey
06-10-2004, 10:10 AM
Yes, Lesnar's last match was against FagBerg at WrestleMania 20. He lost and flipped off the crowd cause they were giving him heat for leaving.
Cunt. :angry:
the_uber_penguin
06-10-2004, 10:59 AM
My entry - Ha Ha, Your Dead by Greenday.
I think a really cool storyline (this would work so well if the old Undertaker were involved, in his Dead Man Walking days) (I can't do it on EWR though).
Two guys have a huge grudge, and hire assassins and stuff. In the end they wind up having a Deathmatch on PPV. Literally. No pins, stop their heartbeat instead; no submissions, stop them breathing instead and no DQ, stop their brain signals. This match would be so easy to fake an ending to, and it could be really wild, but no one would have to get hurt.
Eventually the heel wins, and they announce that the guy died. So his stable hold a funeral for him, but the heel bursts in and beats the stable up, then the guy he beat the night before jumps out of the coffin and beats the heel up. That would be rad.
Ganondorf
06-10-2004, 11:04 AM
wasn't there a time when Mick Foley was beaten up by the whole McMahon family, and no one helped him?
Volkert314
06-10-2004, 11:23 AM
Cunt. :angry:
I kinda feel it was the WWE's fault. They pushed him to fast so it gave him a big ego and than he gave the excuse " he couldn't take the traveling" and everything so I don't know
Volkert314
06-10-2004, 11:26 AM
wasn't there a time when Mick Foley was beaten up by the whole McMahon family, and no one helped him?
I don't know... maybe.
More recently Foley was beat down by 3 members of Evolution and nobody came down. 2 weeks Foley came down to ringside to take them out. They talked and Orton said something about the asking the Rock. Foley said "Why don't you ask him urself". The Rock came down and whooped ***. I marked out like a little girl when I heard ... "IFF YOU SMELLLL... WHAT THE ROCK... IS Cookin"
Ganondorf
06-11-2004, 12:43 AM
Did he give the rock bottom/people's elbow to Randy Orton?
JAStewart
06-11-2004, 10:29 AM
Rock is gay.
Mick and Terry funk were in some kind of cage match thing [possibily the new gay outlaws] and all of DX came down to the cage and chained Terry funk to the cage and beat mick foley up big time. Then he left for about 2 years of something. Came back later.
Something that was cool was when Stone Cold had a mystery partner and it turned out to be dude love. They were against Jeff Jarret and Owen Hart, who, at that time, had the tag team title belts. Austin and Dude won which was very cool.
OWW! Have Mercy!
JAStewart
06-11-2004, 10:31 AM
Come to think of it, what videos of the WWF do you guys have (Pre 2003)
I have:
Royal Rumble 1998, 1999, 2000 & 2001
No Mercy 1999
Summerslam 1994 (Undertaker VS Undertaker)
Stone Cold: Hell Yeah
3 Faces Of Foley.
I wish I had: Every event on tape from 1998
Hardyboyz: Leap Of faith.
I have : King of the Ring 1998 and Unforgiven 1998(inferno match)
JAStewart
06-11-2004, 10:35 AM
Matches at Bad Blood: Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H
Chris Benoit vs. Kane
Shelton Benjamin vs. Randy Orton
Victoria vs. Gail vs. Trish vs. Lita
Tyson Tomko vs. Chris Jericho
World Tag Team Championship
Eugene vs. Jonathan Coachman
Predictions for Bad Blood [IE who will win]:
Bradshaw (For the WWE title)
Shawn Michaels
Kane
Shelton Benjamin
Trish vs. Lita
Chris Jericho
World Tag Team Championship match: Benoit and Edge
Eugene vs. Jonathan Coachman: I couldn't give a flying ****.
brycey
06-11-2004, 10:38 AM
I think Randy Orton will beat Shelton Benjamin.
JAStewart
06-11-2004, 10:41 AM
I have : King of the Ring 1998 and Unforgiven 1998(inferno match)
You are so lucky.
King Of The Ring 1998 ****ing ruled. So did Wrestlemania 1998 (Stone Cold winning)
Are Mosh or Thrasher on any of your videos?
Mosh and Thrasher are on KOTR teaming with Taka Michinoku to face Kaientai.
I'm not sure about Unforgiven though.
JAStewart
06-11-2004, 10:47 AM
XI. Wrestler's Profiles(as of August 16, 1999)
I divided the wrestlers into 5 groups: The Main Eventers, The Mid-
Carders, Low Card/Jobbers, Women, and Officials/Managers
The Main Eventers
Name: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 252 pounds
From: Victoria, Texas
Finisher: Stone Cold Stunner
WWF Titles Held: World Title(4),
Tag Title(3) with Shawn Michaels,
Dude Love, & Undertaker,
Intercontinental Title(2)
Name: The Undertaker
Height: 6'10"
Weight: 328 pounds
From: Death Valley
Finisher: Tombstone Piledriver
WWF Titles Held: World Title(3),
Tag Title with Steve Austin
Name: Hunter Hearst Helmsley
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 246 Pounds
From: Greenwich, Conneticuit
Finisher: The Pedigree
WWF Titles Held: Intercontinental
Title(2), European Title(2)
Name: Kane
Height: 7'
Weight: 326 pounds
From: ???
Finisher: Tombstone Piledriver
WWF Titles Held: World Title,
Tag Title(4) with Mankind(2), & X-Pac(2)
Name: Mankind
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 287 pounds
From: The Boiler Room
Finisher: The Mandible Claw
WWF Titles Held: Tag Title(4) with
Steve Austin, Terry Funk, & Kane(2),
Hardcore Title, World Title(2)
Name: "The Rock" Rocky Maivia
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 275 pounds
From: Miami, Florida
Finisher: The Rock Bottom
WWF Titles Held: Intercontinental
Title(2), World Title(3)
The Mid-Carders
Name: Owen Hart
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 229 lbs.
From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Finisher: The Sharpshooter
WWF Titles held: European Title, Intercontinental
Title(2), Tag Title(3) with Yokozuna, British
Bulldog, and Jeff Jarrett
Name: Ken Shamrock
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 235 pounds
From: Sacremonto, California
Finisher: The Ankle-Lock Submission
WWF Titles Held: Intercontinental Title,
Tag Title with Big Boss Man
Name: X-Pac
Height: 6'
Weight: 222 pounds
From: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Finisher: X-Factor
WWF Titles Held: European Title(2),
Tag Title(4) with Marty Jannetty,
Bob Holly, & Kane(4)
Name: "Road Dogg" Jesse James
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 236 pounds
From: Nashville, Tennessee
Finisher: Pump Handle Slam
WWF Titles Held: Tag Title(3)
with Billy Gunn(3), Hardcore Title,
Intercontanental Title
Name: "Bad ***" Billy Gunn
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 270 pounds
From: Austin, Texas
Finisher: Fameasser
WWF Titles Held: Tag Title(6) with
Bart Gunn(3), & Road Dogg(3),
Hardcore Title
Name: Goldust
Height: 6'6"
From: Hollywood, California
Finisher: Shattered Dreams
WWF Titles Held: Intercontinental Title(2)
Name: Val Venis
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 250 pounds
From: Las Vegas, Nevada
Finisher: The Money Shot
WWF Titles Held: Intercontinental
Title
Name: Edge
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 240 pounds
From: Toronto, Ontario
Finisher: Downward Spiral
WWF Titles Held: Intercontinental
Title
Name: The Big Boss Man
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 290 pounds
From: Cobb County, Georgia
Finisher: The Big Boss Man Slam
WWF Titles Held: Hardcore Title(2),
Tag Title with Ken Shamrock
Name: Al Snow
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 234 pounds
From: Lima, Ohio
Finisher: The Snowplow
WWF Titles Held: Hardcore Title
Name: The Godfather
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 320 pounds
From: Las Vegas, Nevada
Finisher: The Pimp Drop
WWF Titles Held: Intercontinental Title
Name: Jeff Jarrett
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 230 pounds
From: Nashville, Tennessee
Finisher: Figure-Four Leglock Submission
WWF Titles Held: Tag Title with Owen Hart,
Intercontinental Title(4)
Name: D-Lo Brown
Height:
Weight: 260 lbs.
From: Bronx, NY
Finisher: Lo-Down off Top Turnbuckle
WWF Titles Held: European Title(3), Intercontinental Title
Name: Bradshaw
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 295 lbs.
From: Rosco, TX
Finisher: Clothesline from Hell
WWF Titles Held: Tag Title(2) with Faarooq(2)
Name: Faarooq
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 260 lbs.
From: Perry, GA
Finisher: Dominator
WWF Titles Held: Tag Title(2) with Bradshaw(2)
Name: Mark Henry
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 450 lbs.
From: Texas
Finisher: Death from Above
WWF Titles Held: None
Name: "Lethal Weapon" Steve Blackman
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 240 lbs.
From: Pennsylvania
Finisher: Pump Kick
WWF Titles Held: None
Name: Droz
Height:
Weight:
From: Mary's Landing, NJ
Finisher: New Jersey Naptime
WWF Titles Held: None
Name: "Marvelous" Marc Mero
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 235 lbs.
From: Buffalo, NY
Finisher: The TKO
WWF Titles Held: Intercontinental Title
Name: "Dr. Death" Steve Williams
Height:
Weight:
From: Norman, OK
Finisher: Oklahoma Stampede
WWF Titles Held: None
Low Card/Jobbers
Name: Taka Michinoku
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 206 pounds
From: Iwate, Japan
Finisher: The Michinoku Driver
WWF Titles Held: Light Heavyweight Title
Name: Gangrel
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 250 pounds
From: Unknown
Finisher: Implant DDT
WWF Titles Held: None
Name: Christian
Height:
Weight: 233 lbs.
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canado
Finisher: Gothic Face Drop
WWF Titles Held: Light Heavyweight Title
Name: Kuurgan
Height: 7'0"
Weight:
From:
Finisher: Bearhug Slam
WWF Titles Held: None
Name: Mosh
Height:
Weight:
From: His own Private Hell
Finisher: Moshpit off Top Turnbuckle
WWF Titles Held: Tag Title with Thrasher
Name: Thrasher
Height:
Weight:
From: His own Private Hell
Finisher: La Sillia
WWF Titles Held: Tag Title with Mosh
Name: "Too Sexy" Brian Christopher
Height:
Weight:
From: Memphis, Tennessee
Finisher: Tennessee Jam off Top Turnbuckle
WWF Titles Held: None
Women
Name: Sable
Height:
Weight:
From:
Finisher: Powerbomb
WWF Titles Held: Womens Title
Name: Jacquelyn
Height:
Weight:
From:
Finisher: Kamikaze Headbutt
WWF Titles Held: Womens Title
Name: Chyna
Height:
Weight:
From:
Finisher: Groin Smash
WWF Titles Held: None
Backstage Official/Managers
Name: Shawn Michaels
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 230 lbs.
From: San Antonio, Texas
Finisher: Sweet Chin Music
WWF Titles Held: Tag Title(4) with Marty
Jannetty, Diesel(2), and Steve Austin,
Intercontinental Title(3), World Title(3),
European Title
Name: Jerry "The King" Lawler
Height:
Weight:
From: Memphis, Tennessee
Finisher: The Piledriver
WWF Titles Held: None
Name: Paul Bearer
Height:
Weight:
From:
Finisher: 450 Splash
WWF Titles Held: None
Name: Sgt. Slaughter
Height:
Weight:
From:
Finisher: Cobra Clutch
WWF Titles Held: World Title
brycey
06-11-2004, 10:47 AM
Wrestlemania 15 is my all-time favourite WWE event.
What event/Wrestlemania is everyone elses favourite?
Wrestlemania X-Seven was the first 'mania I saw, I had it on tape but I think it died somewhere...
JAStewart
06-11-2004, 10:50 AM
Mosh and Thrasher are on KOTR teaming with Taka Michinoku to face Kaientai.
I'm not sure about Unforgiven though.
But isn't Kaientai Taka and Funaki?
JAStewart
06-11-2004, 10:50 AM
Royal Rumble 1998.
brycey
06-11-2004, 10:51 AM
It was JAS, but I'm sure there was another guy.
But isn't Kaientai Taka and Funaki?
It wasn't at that PPV, Kaientai had Funaki in it and two other random Japanese guys. It was quite cool seeing Taka dressed like Mosh and Thrasher.
Ganondorf
06-11-2004, 01:33 PM
I want someone to beat the **** outta Randy Orton, that guy pisses me of. Oh, make that the WHOLE of Evolution (and HHH ;))
Ganondorf
06-11-2004, 01:50 PM
I downloaded this thing about the top 10 best werstlemania matches (voted by WWE superstars) ever
here are the one's I can remember
10. Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit
9. Hulk Hogan vs Ultimate Warrior
5. The Rock vs Hollywood Hulk Hogan
3. HBK vs Razor Ramone (first ever ladder match)
2. Tag Team Title Match - Dudleyz vs Hardyz vs Edge and Christian (Ladder Match)
1. HBK vs Bret Hart (the screwjob one)
el doctor
06-11-2004, 01:57 PM
I downloaded this thing about the top 10 best werstlemania matches (voted by WWE superstars) ever
here are the one's I can remember
10. Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit
9. Hulk Hogan vs Ultimate Warrior
5. The Rock vs Hollywood Hulk Hogan
3. HBK vs Razor Ramone (first ever ladder match)
2. Tag Team Title Match - Dudleyz vs Hardyz vs Edge and Christian (Ladder Match)
1. HBK vs Bret Hart (the screwjob one)#1 is wrong... that wasn't even Wrestlemania. It was Survivor Series. I'll try and find the list.
edit: It was the iron man match. Here's the list:
Number 10. Kurt Angle defeats Chris Benoit at Wrestlemania 17 (April 1, 2001) with a handful of tights.
Number 9. Intercontinental Champion The Ultimate Warrior defeats Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania 6 (April 1, 1990) with a splash to win the WWF World Heavyweight Title.
Number 8. Steve Austin defeats Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania 14 (March 29, 1998) with a stunner to win the WWF World Heavyweight Title when special ringside enforcer referee Mike Tyson, who had been aligned with DX, turned on them to count the pinfall for Austin.
Number 7. Hulk Hogan & Mr. T defeats Roddy Piper & Paul Orndorff at Wrestlemania 1 (March 31, 1985) when Bob Orton accidentally hit Orndorff with his cast, allowing Hogan to get the pin.
Number 6. Bret Hart defeats Steve Austin in an submission match at Wrestlemania 13 (March 25, 1997) when Austin passes out while in the Sharpshooter and cannot respond to special referee Ken Shamrock's question as to whether he can continue or not.
Number 5. The Rock defeats Hollywood Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania 18 (March 17, 2002) with a series of Rock Bottoms.
Number 4. Ricky Steamboat defeats Randy Savage at Wrestlemania 3 (March 29, 1987) to win the Intercontinental Title with a small package.
Number 3. Intercontinental Champion Razor Ramon defeats Shawn Michaels in a Ladder Match at Wrestlemania 10 (March 20, 1994).
Number 2. Edge & Christian defeat The Dudley Boyz and The Hardy Boyz in a Ladder match at Wrestlemania 16 (April 2, 2000) to win the WWF World Tag Team Championship.
Number 1. Shawn Michaels defeats Bret Hart in the overtime period of a one-hour Ironman match at Wrestlemania 12 (March 31, 1996) to win the WWF World Heavyweight Championship.
Ganondorf
06-11-2004, 02:13 PM
that was it, I just assumed it was the screwjob :p
JAStewart
06-14-2004, 12:37 PM
Bad Blood results:
The final chapter in a storied rivalry ended with a third Pedigree.
After 45 minutes of sheer carnage and utter exhaustion in Hell in a Cell, Triple H mercifully ended the match, hitting Shawn Michaels with his patented finisher twice in succession.
With no way out of the enclosed metal structure encompassing the ring, HBK still nearly climbed a ladder to victory at Bad Blood. With a wicked grin, Michaels pulled a ladder from underneath the ring and proceeded to dissect The Game. In a career highlight, HBK plunged from the top of the ladder -- his head for a moment pressed against the Cell's roof -- and delivered an elbow smash to the chest of Triple H through a table.
But it was the Cerebral Assassin who once again found a way in the end. Bloodied and barely conscious, Triple H survived the kick known as Sweet Chin Music, then Pedigreed his way to the win.
Also, Kane was surprised twice on Sunday night -- the second time costing him a chance to claim the World Heavyweight Championship.
Chris Benoit threw a wrench in the gears of the Big Red Machine, getting technical and then creative when Kane's power proved too much to contain through submission holds. The Rabid Wolverine first confounded Kane by kicking out of a thunderous chokeslam. Next, the champ finished his monster opponent by converting a half-nelson into a cradled pinning predicament. When reviewing tape of the match following its conclusion, the Crippler declared to the thousands in attendance in Columbus, Ohio, that "Chris Benoit is for real!" It's a point that's impossible to contest following such a display of strategy and ring savvy -- with the stakes so high at Bad Blood.
Earlier at the pay-per-view event, Eugene first dizzied Jonathan Coachman with "old-school" wrestling holds. Then, Eugene closed out the Coach in a fashion that would make The Rock envious: with a Rock Bottom followed by a Peoples' Elbow.
Trish became the only five-time Women's Champion in World Wrestling Entertainment history when she took the Fatal Fourway from Lita, Victoria and Gail Kim. Lita thought she had the match wrapped up after a devastating DDT to Gail Kim, but an opportunistic Trish snuck into the mix and rolled up Lita while she was still preoccupied.
Intercontinental Champion Randy Orton eked out a victory over upstart Shelton Benjamin, using a handful of tights and his opponent's momentum for a victory that seemed in doubt for much of the match.
Despite bad ribs, Chris Jericho found a way to cut down a far larger combatant in new Trish Stratus favorite Tyson Tomko. Y2J picked his spot for a running kick to the head for which Tomko had no answer.
La Resistance retained the World Tag Team Championship belts despite being disqualified in their match against Chris Benoit and Edge.
Results:
Triple H defeats Shawn Michaels > I wanted HBK to win
Chris Benoit def. Kane < Good
Trish Stratus def. Lita, Victoria and Gail Kim (pinning Lita) < Not good
Randy Orton def. Shelton Benjamin < ****ing ****
Chris Jericho def. Tyson Tomko < Good
La Resistance def. Chris Benoit and Edge (DQ) < ****ing ****
I like TNA more.
tnawrestling.com
Everyone should watch TNA so there is competition again. It's on Fox Sports on Fridays at 3 PM Central and there are weekly PPVs on Wednesdays.
And I'm a Raven mark.
Element86
06-14-2004, 02:01 PM
I watched Bad Blood last night (like the first wrestling I've watched in 2 years) and it was mostly pretty boring. The best part by far was Eugene!
The Hell in a Cell match was good, but just disappointing because I was expecting them to get on top of it and do something insane.
I like TNA more.
tnawrestling.com
Everyone should watch TNA so there is competition again. It's on Fox Sports on Fridays at 3 PM Central and there are weekly PPVs on Wednesdays.
And I'm a Raven mark.
TNA is kinda like how WCW used to be, when it gets bigger it should be good competition for WWE.
el doctor
06-14-2004, 02:26 PM
Bad Blood was fairly boring. I liked Benoit and Kane, and Eugene was entertaining too. The Hell in a Cell was just to long for its own good. There was maybe only 15 minutes of it I actually enjoyed.
JAStewart
06-15-2004, 04:52 AM
The old Hell In A Cells' were incredible.
I wanted HBK to win big time. Triple H is gay.
Eugene will get very boring, very quickly. Trust me.
I watched Royal Rumble 2004 last night...was pretty good...would of been better if The Hurricane or Matt Hardy would have won.
His Curse (LT)
06-15-2004, 04:53 AM
Lita = teh secks!
:naughty:
Distorted Vision
06-15-2004, 05:15 AM
Looky what I just bought: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2902&item=5101814274&rd=1
Fook yeah :cool: Should be here soon.
dans107
06-15-2004, 05:18 AM
:eek:
I remember when he used to put them round the kids' heads. Man, what I would have done to have been of them kids.
Dan
dans107
06-15-2004, 05:23 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=68375&item=5101500893&rd=1
I so gots to get me them.
Dan
Distorted Vision
06-15-2004, 05:42 AM
Geez, imagine the fun to be had with all of them.
His Curse (LT)
06-15-2004, 05:44 AM
Imagine the fun we'd have with this (http://www.wwefanclub.ne.jp/superstars/raw_stars/lita.jpg)!
:naughty:
Distorted Vision
06-15-2004, 05:54 AM
Stacy Keibler's hotter.
His Curse (LT)
06-15-2004, 05:56 AM
I'm going to have to disagree!
dans107
06-15-2004, 05:58 AM
I really don't find Lita attractive...some pictures she looks fine...but others, dude, she looks like a guy.
Each to their own though, I guess.
Dan
His Curse (LT)
06-15-2004, 06:06 AM
Lita's my favourite female wrestler, without a doubt.
My brother doesn't really like her either, the idiot . . .
:lol:
Distorted Vision
06-15-2004, 06:17 AM
Yeah, to each his own, but c'mon LT, it's Stacy:
http://www.stuffmagazine.com/cover_girls/html/girl_312.html
His Curse (LT)
06-15-2004, 06:18 AM
Sorry, but no.
It's Lita!
:naughty:
We'd better stop this little thing we've got going, otherwise this thread's going to go haywire!
dans107
06-15-2004, 06:20 AM
Yeah, to each his own, but c'mon LT, it's Stacy:
http://www.stuffmagazine.com/cover_girls/html/girl_312.html
Well I just popped one at work.
She is HOT
Dan
His Curse (LT)
06-15-2004, 06:21 AM
Stacy is good-looking, I agree, but you can't beat Lita!
:naughty:
dans107
06-15-2004, 06:23 AM
Trust me, I can.
With a stick.
Dan
His Curse (LT)
06-15-2004, 06:23 AM
Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
Distorted Vision
06-15-2004, 06:50 AM
:lol:
I see your Lita, and raise you . . . Sable.
http://www.tiwronline.com/wow/indies/renamero/rena24.jpg
http://www.tiwronline.com/wow/indies/renamero/rena58.jpg
http://www.tiwronline.com/wow/indies/renamero/rena31.jpg
I had a hard time finding good non-nude pics there (hard, but fun).
dans107
06-15-2004, 07:17 AM
http://www.tiwronline.com/wow/indie...mero/rena58.jpg
Oh lord.
It's a good job no one ever uses the work toilets.
I'll be back in 5 minutes.
Dan
His Curse (LT)
06-15-2004, 07:26 AM
Yeah, Sable's hot too, I agree with you again.
The thing is though, Lita's my favourite!
Distorted Vision
06-17-2004, 08:05 AM
I got my Bret Hart glasses though the post today! Two pairs for the price of one as well!
OK so they don't look as good on me as they did on Bret but I don't care. :cool:
JAStewart
06-17-2004, 11:28 AM
What about Miss Kitty?
Lita is ok. Pearl necklace.
Stacy is ok. Double Layer pearl necklace
Miss Kitty, woo, three layer.
Yay! Evolution lost at Raw this week!
brycey
06-17-2004, 12:35 PM
Miss Kitty was HAWT.
They lost? :D
Ganondorf
06-17-2004, 01:28 PM
Lita = teh hawt
brycey
06-17-2004, 01:54 PM
Debra = not teh hawt.
Nicole Bass = TEH HAWT :rolleyes:
JAStewart
06-19-2004, 06:07 AM
Chris Beniot, Chris Jerico and Edge beat them in Elimination Tag.
[Ric Gay, Gay****sta and Randy ****ston]
brycey
06-19-2004, 06:13 AM
Wahey. :)
chumpradio
06-19-2004, 06:15 AM
I watched RAW last night, that was really dodgy between Kane and HBK.
brycey
06-19-2004, 06:19 AM
I just read up on the results from the past week. Lita's "pregnant"? That's a stupid storyline isn't it?
crossface
06-19-2004, 06:43 AM
I just read up on the results from the past week. Lita's "pregnant"? That's a stupid storyline isn't it?
storyline, Kane got her pregnant
Offtopic:
did you know that Kane(Glenn Jacobs) is actually "The New Diesel" a few yrs ago?
The New Diesel = The sexiest man in the world
That is why a lot of chicks in the audience likes Kane
brycey
06-19-2004, 07:24 AM
Pfft. That's a stupid storyline.
^^Most storylines are stupid nowadays, anyone remember the Zach Gowen(one legged dude)/Vince McMahon/Brock Lesnar/Stephanie McMahon/Sable/Mr America(Hogan) storyline Smackdown had last year? That got really stupid.
brycey
06-19-2004, 07:36 AM
The Dawn Marie/Torrie/"I'm doing your dad" storyline was dumb.
When Stephanie had amnesia back in 1999 I think, was a stupid storyline.
Looking back, I now REALLY miss all the wrestlers and stables I watched when I first got into wrestling, like The Corporation, DX etc. :upset:
Speedy Fingers
06-19-2004, 07:50 AM
Does anyone remember Goldberg from WCW??? He was a kickass wrestler!! Whatever happened to him??
He quit after Wrestlemania XX because WWE wern't using his character to its full potential - in WCW he killed everyone, in WWE they had him get beaten alot more.
Theres more info a few pages back I think...
brycey
06-19-2004, 10:42 AM
I want the N.A.O back. :(
crazy_liddo_gurl
06-19-2004, 11:19 AM
Does anyone still believe its real??
:lol: Theres this one kid at my school. He believes 2 things.
1, Montreal are the coolest hXc hockey team in the world, and they will take the cup Every year.
2, Wrestling is real, and nothing can make him believe otherwise.
The classes that he was in with me, the people always made fun of him.
brycey
06-19-2004, 11:20 AM
^Wrestling isn't real? :eek:
chumpradio
06-19-2004, 11:22 AM
Nah, he's just kidding, it is real really ;)
crazy_liddo_gurl
06-19-2004, 11:22 AM
:lol: No, It's not. Sorry
brycey
06-19-2004, 11:26 AM
:eek:
That would explain why Al Snow always jumped when headbutting people. :upset:
el doctor
06-19-2004, 12:19 PM
I watched RAW last night, that was really dodgy between Kane and HBK.
That part was incredibly boring.
chumpradio
06-19-2004, 12:24 PM
I know
That 6 way elimination tag was good though.
crossface
06-19-2004, 08:40 PM
^^Most storylines are stupid nowadays, anyone remember the Zach Gowen(one legged dude)/Vince McMahon/Brock Lesnar/Stephanie McMahon/Sable/Mr America(Hogan) storyline Smackdown had last year? That got really stupid.
Yeah, that storyline was stupid, i remember the Arm wrestling match between Vince and Mr America :naughty: Sable showed her boobs, and Hogan got distracted and lost, that was stupid and funny.
JAStewart
06-25-2004, 05:51 AM
RVD vs Rene Dupree for the number one contender spot for the USA title.
RVD is going to win.
JAStewart
06-29-2004, 10:22 AM
Don't know about you guys but this thread is the only thing I post in on MX now.
Ganondorf
06-29-2004, 10:26 AM
why did WWE get rid of the hardcore and european belts?
skankinbassplayer
06-29-2004, 10:27 AM
Well, stop bumping it...
Ganondorf
06-29-2004, 10:27 AM
piss of n0ob
skankinbassplayer
06-29-2004, 10:44 AM
F*ck You..I'm not a noob my other name was banned...
Ganondorf
06-29-2004, 10:45 AM
good for you, now stop spamming
skankinbassplayer
06-29-2004, 10:48 AM
Stop bumping old threads...
Ganondorf
06-29-2004, 10:50 AM
It's better than making a whole new thread, we're carrying on the same conversation. Now, stay on topic or **** of :)
el doctor
06-29-2004, 11:11 AM
Raw was pretty good last night. :eek:
skankinbassplayer
06-29-2004, 11:51 AM
I saw part of it last night. When I realized I had no clue who any of them were I changed the channel. I used to watch it when it WWF. When they changed, the story lines pretty much kept repeating. It got old, but I can still see how some can enjoy it. Happy Ganondorf? I stayed on topic...
Ganondorf
06-29-2004, 12:48 PM
yes, happy :)
and the roster split is ghey, Raw and Smackdown are like totally seperate now
brycey
06-29-2004, 12:52 PM
The 24/7 Hardcore Championship rule was classic. I loved that, and I can't believe they got rid of the Hardcore, European and Intercontinental belts. :angry:
skankinbassplayer
06-29-2004, 12:56 PM
What was with the whole splitting the shows up. If you go to one of the shows you can't see the person you want. You'll have to go to a different town to see the other show. I think it's pretty stupid...
Ganondorf
06-29-2004, 12:57 PM
no, the Intercontinental Belt is on the Raw brand. Each of the two shows has different champions etc, and they act like different companies, so as to create competition between the two.
RAW Belts
World Heaveyweight
Intercontinental
Tag Team
Women's
Smackdown Belts
WWE Champion (equivalent of World Heaveyweight)
USA Champion (equivalent of Intercontiental)
Tag Team
Cruiserweight
brycey
06-29-2004, 12:59 PM
I didn't realise the IC belt was still around. Thanks Ganondorf. :thumb:
Ps. Jeff Jarett was the most annoying IC champion of allllll time.
^King of the Ring 1998, there was a sign in the crowd which read:
''Double J, Ain't he Gay'' because his slogan was ''Double J, Ain't he great'' or something like that.
JAStewart
06-30-2004, 12:02 PM
Jeff Jarret, man his music was cool. I liked him when he wasn't being an asshole.
^I have your avatar on vynal.
Jeff Jarret is the Vince Macmahon of TNA.
Haha I saw Rodney Mack and The Blue Meanie on a peice of crap called 3PW.
I saw Bob Backlund on Japanese Wrestling from 1984, it was so crap.
The best decade of destruction was 1988-1998.
6Stringer
06-30-2004, 12:24 PM
What ever happened to Mick Foley? I know he became commesioner(sp?) of the WWF or WWE for a while(like 3 months or something) back in 2001 or 2002. FEAR MR. SOCKO!!
brycey
06-30-2004, 12:32 PM
^King of the Ring 1998, there was a sign in the crowd which read:
''Double J, Ain't he Gay'' because his slogan was ''Double J, Ain't he great'' or something like that.
I'm going to get a copy of that, just to see that sign. :lol:
And Mick comes and goes. Even after "retiring" once or twice.
^I have your avatar on vynal.
So do I, its probably my favourite Sabbath album.
I have all the Ozzy albums on vinyl apart from Paranoid. :cool:
JAStewart
07-01-2004, 04:38 AM
I'm going to get a copy of that, just to see that sign. :lol:
And Mick comes and goes. Even after "retiring" once or twice.
Not to mention being fired and re-instated a few times...
I am getting King Of The Ring 1998 on video today! I actually must see that sign! What are the matches? I know this much:
The Headbangers and Taka Mitchinoku vs Kientia
Jeff Jarret vs someone for the Intercontinental title.
Undertaker vs Mankind in the best match in the world. Oh yeah :cool:
sickgoregrind_666
07-01-2004, 04:58 AM
best match= Doink the clown vs Bob Buckland
Not to mention being fired and re-instated a few times...
I am getting King Of The Ring 1998 on video today! I actually must see that sign! What are the matches? I know this much:
The Headbangers and Taka Mitchinoku vs Kientia
Jeff Jarret vs someone for the Intercontinental title.
Undertaker vs Mankind in the best match in the world. Oh yeah :cool:
Kane vs Stone Cold for the WWF Title, First blood match.
New Age Outlaws vs The Midnight Express
Rock vs Ken Shamrock(semi final)
I forget the rest of the matches and I'm too lazy to go find my copy.
Symphony x
07-01-2004, 08:09 AM
i used to watch...
when i was 13
yeah sting was the ****. wcw.
nw a/o ? sucked ***
JAStewart
07-01-2004, 08:26 AM
Did yeah.
Symphony x
07-01-2004, 08:28 AM
Did yeah.
:confused:
To update on Jeff Hardy, he's made an appearance on TNA and is in talks about signing a contract with them soon. If all goes to plan, he should be a regular there.
JAStewart
07-02-2004, 04:23 AM
To update on Jeff Hardy, he's made an appearance on TNA and is in talks about signing a contract with them soon. If all goes to plan, he should be a regular there.
What! Does he have the old Hardys music?
What about the WWE?
TNA is better, more high flying. AJ Styles.
"Did yeah." what a response to NWO sucked.
(k)
'Insane' Kane Webb
07-05-2004, 12:21 AM
Where did Golddust go?
And is the Undertaker and Kane still around?
There's been about 4 people that have played Goldust, for some reason, Vince keeps picking the drug abusers and the lazy wrestlers to be him. The first Goldust was Dustin Runnels, who came from, then went back to WCW. Dumbass.
'Stone Cold' Steve Austin, as cool as his persona is, he's a real funt outside of the ring. He and Vince really never did get along, and the only reason that Vince didn't fire him is because of his fan-base. He's been let go twice, and left twice. They managed to keep it under their hats until recently, when he walked out for a second time.
The Ultimate Warrior, the last time I saw him, was with a promotion called IECW or something. They came down to Australia for a taped show and a dark show, unfortunately, I was at the latter. IECW (or whatever they were called) also had with them (if anyone can remember) 8 Ball and Skull, two bald biker dudes who wrestled for WWF, then WCW.
A lot of wrestlers that disapear from WWE are probably training at a Gym around the corner from your place.
HHH is in the process of (or just finished) filming a movie where he rides a bike and beats people up. 3 guesses whether that's going to be a success or not.
The Rock has, and always will suck.
The Undertaker is lamegay now. He could have at least got hair extensions. Geez.
Kane is also lamegay. I don't see why they had to shave his head.
In conclusion, you people have to start watching some indy feds, like CZW or IWA, who use barbed wire, lightubes, tables, ladders, thumbtacks, panes of glass, and pretty much anything else you can think of IN A NORMAL MATCH. :D
'Insane' Kane Webb
07-05-2004, 12:28 AM
Haha I saw Rodney Mack and The Blue Meanie on a peice of crap called 3PW.
3PW stands for Pro-Pain Pro wrestling, and features such people as Balls Mahoney and The Rotten Brothers, of ECW fame.
When I first layed eyes upon 'Independant Federations' such as this, I was skeptical, but if you're into blood and guts as much as I do, you'll love the Deathmatch shows that they put on. 'Nuf said. :)
Simple Man
07-05-2004, 12:31 AM
shawn michaels is the best
dead56k
07-05-2004, 12:51 AM
that sucks that kane took his mask off.. i havent watched wrestling in ages...but its a **** shame. he was ****ed cool.
JAStewart
07-05-2004, 06:26 AM
Austin and Vince were friends. Everyone in the WWF was, its true, they didn't hire people who were going to be all crap and actually dislike people.
I was bored last night, so I started watching Heat. WTF is up with that pregnant thing. I tell you, WWE cnanot pull off things like that very well.
el doctor
07-05-2004, 10:58 AM
I was bored last night, so I started watching Heat. WTF is up with that pregnant thing. I tell you, WWE cnanot pull off things like that very well.
Terrible story line. :o On the topic of wrestling, what wrestling video games do people like? I thought the last Smackdown game was awesome.
'Insane' Kane Webb
07-07-2004, 03:49 AM
You can't always predict how people are going to turn out. They might have started off as buddies, but Austin eventually got frustrated with the way Vince was running things, that's why he's left.
JAStewart
07-07-2004, 08:25 AM
Check out Sables video on Smackdown 5: Here Comes The Pain.
All I gotta say is hubba hubba hubba!
FishSauce
07-07-2004, 09:14 AM
I used to watch WWF (at the time) when I was four till the the new tv show "Arthur" came along...
the_uber_penguin
07-07-2004, 10:50 AM
that sucks that kane took his mask off.. i havent watched wrestling in ages...but its a **** shame. he was ****ed cool.
On the other hand, they have brought back the old Undertaker.
brycey
07-07-2004, 11:04 AM
I hate the WWE for making Kane take off his mask. They completely ruined his character.
JAStewart
07-12-2004, 08:18 AM
Now he is really crap. I think that Matt Hardy is cool but at Vengence he beat Kane. That wouldn't happen with the old one.
Results from this Sundays Vengence:
World Heavyweight Champion Chris Benoit def. Triple H
Edge def. Randy Orton and became the new Intercontinental champ.
Batista def. Chris Jerico [cheated]
Tag Team Champions La Resistance def Ric Flair and Eugene
Matt Hardy def. Kane
Molly def. Victoria.
World Heavyweight Championship
Evolution suffered a significant setback Sunday at Vengeance - and it has Eugene to blame. An inadvertent whack with a chair leveled Triple H, who was dazed enough for Chris Benoit to roll him up and retain the World Heavyweight Championship.
The Game thought he had the perfect strategy to return to glory, working over Benoit's chest with a range of creative and crippling maneuvers. And he seemingly had the ace in the hole: influence over Eugene and his deceptive strength. Triple H picked his spot, calling for the honorary Evolution member when on the wrong end of a Crippler Crossface and the referee KO'd. But Eugene's loyalties proved to be so divided that it left him paralyzed -- and a detriment to both competitors. First, The Rabid Wolverine dropped Eugene to preserve his title. Later, Triple H pushed Eugene off the ring apron when he got in the way. The Game's plan first crumbled, then backfired. With it went his chance to regain the World Heavyweight Championship.
Intercontinental Championship
When Randy Orton bounced gruesomely off an exposed turnbuckle, into Edge's waiting spear and was covered for three, it served as a powerful reminder of just how hard it is to hold onto the Intercontinental Championship in this age of WWE parity.
Edge said that one-by-one, Evolution would fall. Sunday at Vengeance, he picked off a rising star and with it the Intercontinental Championship. Edge's success has to be attributed to his ability to avoid and negate Orton's finishing RKO. Once, Edge fought out of the move. Then, he converted it into a backslide that earned a two-count. Orton was left working Edge's neck, something he did successfully all match long. But it was the Legend Killer's choice to remove a turnbuckle's padding - perhaps looking for a shortcut to victory - that ultimately proved to be his undoing.
Edge stole away with his new title, leaving Orton to lament his loss in the ring before an unsympathetic crowd in Hartford, Conn. The charged fans gave Orton a "Goodbye" serenade as he left in a manner that foreshadowed Evolution's woes in the World Heavyweight Championship match.
Chris Jericho vs. Batista
The mighty Batista delivered Evolution's lone bright moment in Sunday's pay-per-view, but even that result didn't come without controversy. In a fateful sequence of events, Batista blocked a Lionsault, hit a punishing Spinebuster and blasted Jericho with the Batista Bomb. Everyone in Hartford, Conn., assumed the match was over - including the referee, who counted three despite Y2J's leg clearly being on the bottom rope. It seemed to be an honest mistake as hulking Batista's body obscured the referee's vision, but it was a blatant error that denied Jericho the chance at a comeback. Even Batista knew the questionable nature of what occurred, swatting Jericho's leg off the rope before its presence could be detected by the official.
Tag Team Championship
Besides contributing to Triple H's humbling defeat, Eugene's uncontrollable ferocity also cost Evolution the World Tag Team Championship. Eugene seemed to be having the time of his life emulating his tag partner, the legendary "Nature Boy." He called out in signature Ric Flair fashion. He delivered knife-edge chops to the members of La Resistance. He did the strut, dropped the knee and even fell like the 16-time World Heavyweight Champion. Then, the man himself took over, showing the Tag Team Champions from Quebec what a true champion looks like. But it all vanished before Evolution's eyes when Eugene snapped. After taking a cheap shot outside the ring, Eugene went berserk. He took out everyone in his path - including the referee, who called for the bell. With the disqualification, Evolution lost a golden chance at capturing the titles.
Kane vs. Matt Hardy
All Matt Hardy's rage, frustration and pent-up emotion overwhelmed the monster Kane Sunday at Vengeance. Hardy once again showed symptoms of snapping in the mere presence of Kane, bashing the big man with TV monitors, chairs and ring steps in the "No Disqualification" grudge match. With Kane hopelessly tangled in the ring ropes, Hardy even used the ring bell to smash the other man who may have impregnated Lita.
After a brutal beating, Kane kicked out of the Twist of Fate then finally gained the upper hand with a chokeslam. With the match stipulation in mind, Kane gladly grabbed the steel ring steps for use as a weapon. Seeing events unfold, Lita put everything at risk by stepping between the monster and his prey. A tormented Kane couldn't bring himself to smash Lita under the circumstances, choosing instead to move her out of harm's way. But Hardy capitalized, using the combination of a steel chair and the ring steps to crush Kane and bring him down for the three-count. Watching her boyfriend prevail, Lita showed a rare smile during the most difficult of times.
Victoria vs. Molly
With a wicked superkick, Victoria dropped Molly Holly and became the No. 1 Contender for Trish Stratus' Women's Championship. The back-and-forth match took its toll on Victoria, who at one point attempted the Widow's Peak but had her arm give out mid-move. In the end, it had to have been a difficult pay-per-view loss for Molly, who desperately wanted Vengeance in Hartford after losing her hair to Victoria at WrestleMania XX.
Enjoy!
JAStewart
07-22-2004, 06:29 AM
Are we not going to discuss this anymore?
brycey
07-22-2004, 06:31 AM
I didn't watch Vengeance, but I saw the next night's Raw. I've not watched a full episode of Raw in a long time, and I wasn't that disappointed. I'm happy that Jericho is a fan favourite again, and he still cracks me up. :) It might just be me, but I think Eugene is the coolest. :cool:
dans107
07-22-2004, 06:31 AM
:lol:
Your adamant that this thread will live aren't you?
Dan
brycey
07-22-2004, 06:33 AM
This is the best thread around. :)
dans107
07-22-2004, 06:36 AM
*ahem*
brycey
07-22-2004, 06:37 AM
This is the second best thread around! :)
dans107
07-22-2004, 06:40 AM
:-*
:-*
But I agree, this is a great thread. Brought back a helluva lot of good memories :)
Dan
brycey
07-22-2004, 06:42 AM
Truth indeed! I'm gonna start watching it more often.
Oh and, WTF DID THEY DO WITH THE HARDCORE TITLE!?
They killed the hardcore title, along with the European title on RAW agesss ago.
I *think* they had a unification match between Rob Van Dam(Hardcore Champion) and William Regal(Euro Champ). Regal won and thus, killed the hardcore title.
Then Regal got heart problems and then they killed the Euro title.
Mick Foley was presented the Hardcore title in a nice glass box display thingy-majig not so long ago for being the WWF's best Hardcore champion.
On a side note, I noticed that my Lord Brummington name has been left on 666posts due to me not being able to log in with it :evil:
Volkert314
07-22-2004, 08:51 AM
The king is back in the thread
I was reading a website (www.wrestlingexposed.com) and they had an article on the first Smackdown show after Summerslam.
Beware, spoilers(possibly) are about to appear!
Ready?
Ok...here they are: Underweartaker is apparently after the WWE title with JBL(Bradshaw) in his sights.
Eddie Guerro(sp?) is after revenge on Kurt Angel
John Cena, Booker T and either Rene Dupree or RVD are after the Vacant US Title.
So basicly the results from Smackdowns summerslam matches will be JBL retaining his title, Kurt Angle beating Eddie and the US Title not being given to any and being left vacant which will probably lead to somekind of Gauntlet match or Tournament to see who wins it.
Volkert314
07-22-2004, 09:23 AM
I was reading a website (www.wrestlingexposed.com) and they had an article on the first Smackdown show after Summerslam.
Beware, spoilers(possibly) are about to appear!
Ready?
Ok...here they are: Underweartaker is apparently after the WWE title with JBL(Bradshaw) in his sights.
Eddie Guerro(sp?) is after revenge on Kurt Angel
John Cena, Booker T and either Rene Dupree or RVD are after the Vacant US Title.
So basicly the results from Smackdowns summerslam matches will be JBL retaining his title, Kurt Angle beating Eddie and the US Title not being given to any and being left vacant which will probably lead to somekind of Gauntlet match or Tournament to see who wins it.
So Taker goes from fueding with Paul Heyman to trying to go after JBL? What the hell happend to Eddy holding the title? JBL can't wrestle, he can't talk on the mic.... what the hell
brycey
07-22-2004, 09:49 AM
I want the Hardcore title back. :( I think the person who created the belt's design was pretty smart actually, because I wouldn't have thought of having a "smashed-up" belt.
I still can't believe Crash Holly is dead. :eek:
Volkert314
07-22-2004, 09:52 AM
I want the Hardcore title back. :( I think the person who created the belt's design was pretty smart actually, because I wouldn't have thought of having a "smashed-up" belt.
I still can't believe Crash Holly is dead. :eek:
Yea, well, WWE couldn't do it right. If you watched old ECW video's, that was hardcore, the things they used, they way it was used. WWE had to keep the rating down on TV so the Hardcore title really do much for me, especially after they made it 24/7.
brycey
07-22-2004, 09:55 AM
I never really watched ECW I have to admit. But from what I've heard, and clips I've seen, they lived up to the name.
Ganondorf
07-22-2004, 10:27 AM
I've been reading a different wrestling forum, pretty interesting. I watched some parts of Smackdown, it's actually ok.
brycey
07-22-2004, 10:28 AM
It's back on the upwards rise. It's starting to get better again. If only it would return to the good ol' Attitude 1998 era. :(
el doctor
07-22-2004, 10:53 AM
So Taker goes from fueding with Paul Heyman to trying to go after JBL? What the hell happend to Eddy holding the title? JBL can't wrestle, he can't talk on the mic.... what the hell
The house show matches are being advertised as Undertaker vs JBL vs Eddie, and if not vs Eddie, then he takes on Angle while JBL goes against Undertaker. I don't really like JBL either, but oh well, there's not much you can do.
I think Smackdown is still pretty crappy. As my friend said, the cage match was stupid because by having Angle interfere it gives less credibility to the cage match. Raw had gotten better though.
brycey
07-22-2004, 11:36 AM
Whatever happened to the Big Show? And what was the point of the Big Bossman coming back for like two months and then disappearing?
el doctor
07-22-2004, 11:37 AM
Big Show is taking time off. Wrestlers have to heal injuries too ya know. :o
brycey
07-22-2004, 11:41 AM
He was injured?
Volkert314
07-22-2004, 11:56 AM
He was injured?
Yea, I belive his knees, that's why they had the storyline of him throwing Angle off of the balcony
brycey
07-22-2004, 11:58 AM
Cool, thanks for the info. I hadn't really been paying attention to wrestling again until lately, so I didn't know what happened.
simplephotographinthesun
07-22-2004, 12:14 PM
i used to be a huge wrestling fan...i loved 90s WCW, the WWF attitude era, and ECW.
Big show should be back by October
Triumphant
07-22-2004, 12:26 PM
Ultimate warrior - No
Mr. Perfect - Not sure
Yukozona - Yes
British Bulldog - Yes
Hawk (Or Animal) - Yes
Elizibeth - Yes
Bryan Pillman - Yes
el doctor
07-22-2004, 12:30 PM
Yea, I belive his knees, that's why they had the storyline of him throwing Angle off of the balcony
That was so incredibly stupid. It was another moment showcasing how crappy the smackdown writers are.
brycey
07-22-2004, 12:47 PM
The Smackdown writers are stupid indeed, and the person who came up with the whole "omg im lita and pregant oh noz!!" thing should be bitchslapped.
chumpradio
07-22-2004, 01:06 PM
Where did that Mexican dude go, he came to the WWF with Lita and they were a tag team for a bit.
I can't remember his name, I want to find out so I can make him on WWE : Raw 2 for Xbox.
Volkert314
07-22-2004, 01:15 PM
Where did that Mexican dude go, he came to the WWF with Lita and they were a tag team for a bit.
I can't remember his name, I want to find out so I can make him on WWE : Raw 2 for Xbox.
His name was Essa Rios
brycey
07-22-2004, 01:16 PM
He was pretty cool too. I miss Taka. :(
Chanandler Bong
07-22-2004, 02:48 PM
I want the Hardcore title back. :( I think the person who created the belt's design was pretty smart actually, because I wouldn't have thought of having a "smashed-up" belt.
I still can't believe Crash Holly is dead. :eek:
Crash is dead? :eek: How? When?
^Choked on his own vomit at a party.
brycey
07-22-2004, 06:01 PM
I heard/read (I can't remember which) that he died of a heart attack. Either way, he's not coming back.
DID YOU KNOW, that he had the most ever title reigns in the history of the WWE? Wouldn't believe it would you? But he held the Hardcore title SO MANY TIMES, the now-non-existant Light-Heavyweight and European championships and the Tag Team title with Hardcore Holly.
I think he held the Hardcore belt 13times in total.
Brain Toad
07-22-2004, 06:29 PM
I'm not sure if someone answered this, so I shall.
X-pac left WWE under terms, I think because of his drug problems and not getting a fanbase. He later joined XPW as X, but later left and joined NWA-TNA. I think he is still there, but might have left. He is also married to Joanie Laurer aka Chyna. Both of whom have a cocaine problem.
But like you, I stopped watching WWE a while ago, it's just gotten horrible.
brycey
07-22-2004, 06:33 PM
I think he held the Hardcore belt 13times in total.
It was 13 or more.
I didn't mind seeing X-Pac go, but I mean look at all the really cool stables that have disappeared:
The Corporation
Ministry Of Darkness
Degeneration-X
nWo
:upset:
And I miss tag-teams, like the NAO, Acolytes, Kai-en-tai etc.
Brain Toad
07-22-2004, 06:35 PM
I've always been a big fan of X-pac, but many people dislike him.
I agree Brycy, they lost a lot of good stables and tag teams. WWE has been going down hill for a long time, especially since they lost their name and went to the 2 brand crap.
brycey
07-22-2004, 06:38 PM
Personally, I don't mind the brand stuff, but it annoys me that you have to wait a week to find out what happens next, as opposed to a few nights later. I like the split-brand thing, because lesser-known wrestlers are getting in the ring more, especially on Smackdown. Raw seems to have the bigger talent in my opinion.
Brain Toad
07-22-2004, 06:47 PM
I've made this theory. The brands are catered to different audiences. RAW is for the old school redneck fans, the people who've watched wrestling as long as they can remember, their choice of wrestlers and storylines reflect this. Smackdown is for the newer audience, who haven't been watching as long, but love to see up and coming wrestlers show off skills, hence cruiserweight division here. They were also thinking of brining a third brand, which was going to be based off of ECW.
brycey
07-22-2004, 06:51 PM
That's quite an interesting, yet accurate theory you have there I have to admit. I'd love to see an "ECW" brand. I never really got a chance to watch it while it was still in existance. I miss some of the ECW wrestlers that were on WWE programming for a while, like Raven.
I'm watching smackdown right now. It=teh suxorz indeed it does. I bet it will pick up later though.
Brain Toad
07-22-2004, 06:54 PM
I used to watch ECW occasionally when it was on, never followed storylines, never really was any, but the matches were great, lived up to their name.
Raven was amazing, WWE likes to fire really good talent.
brycey
07-22-2004, 06:55 PM
And I'd just like to say for the record, that Stephanie was hotter when she was first brought onto WWE television, when the Undertaker and Vince had that rivalry I believe it was. Now she's just not as hot as before. :(
Was it true that fans in the audience could throw things in the ring for the wrestlers to use in ECW?
el doctor
07-22-2004, 07:22 PM
I'm not sure if someone answered this, so I shall.
X-pac left WWE under terms, I think because of his drug problems and not getting a fanbase. He later joined XPW as X, but later left and joined NWA-TNA. I think he is still there, but might have left. He is also married to Joanie Laurer aka Chyna. Both of whom have a cocaine problem.
But like you, I stopped watching WWE a while ago, it's just gotten horrible.
I think there's rumors he's rejoining WWE.
Brain Toad
07-22-2004, 07:24 PM
I think there's rumors he's rejoining WWE.
I've heard those rumours too. If he does, I doubt he'll do very well, WWE will abuse him and his character, as usual.
X-Pac was backstage at one of the PPV's talking to HHH not so long ago, I don't think 'pac is coming back though.
There have been many rumours of an ECW type show being made by the WWE but at this point in time, nothings going to happen about it. Apparently they re-newed the liscences to all the WCW names and logos and also the Hardy Boyz name but Jeff joined TNA...
Volkert314
07-23-2004, 07:43 AM
X-Pac was backstage at one of the PPV's talking to HHH not so long ago, I don't think 'pac is coming back though.
There have been many rumours of an ECW type show being made by the WWE but at this point in time, nothings going to happen about it. Apparently they re-newed the liscences to all the WCW names and logos and also the Hardy Boyz name but Jeff joined TNA...
No, X-Pac was just there visiting old friends, since HHH and HBK basically run the WWE and get what they want, he goes whenever they're around him.
I belive they canked the idea for an ECW type show. It would probably be watered down anyway, add the fact that they don't have the old ECW talent that would make me watch it(Sabu, New Jack, Tommy Dreamer, Jerry Lynn)
el doctor
07-23-2004, 10:45 AM
I belive they canked the idea for an ECW type show. It would probably be watered down anyway, add the fact that they don't have the old ECW talent that would make me watch it(Sabu, New Jack, Tommy Dreamer, Jerry Lynn)
I would've liked it. When there were rumors about it, one of the then current storylines had Heyman getting fired, so I figured that was their opportunity to start an ECW type show... but nope. :(
And I barely remember what happened on last nights Smackdown. Shows just how good it was. :amaze:
Volkert314
07-23-2004, 10:50 AM
I would've liked it. When there were rumors about it, one of the then current storylines had Heyman getting fired, so I figured that was their opportunity to start an ECW type show... but nope. :(
And I barely remember what happened on last nights Smackdown. Shows just how good it was. :amaze:
I don't know, I didn't really care till Taker came out and confronted JBL, than it got boring again, than Vince came out and than I watched again, and than Vince got in the LowRider with Eddy and all was right again as it went off the air
el doctor
07-23-2004, 10:59 AM
I'm making sure to watch Impact today since I've remembered to watch it like twice. Plus, I haven't seen a TNA ppv since my "legitimate discount cable box" stopped getting ppv.
Volkert314
07-23-2004, 02:56 PM
I'm making sure to watch Impact today since I've remembered to watch it like twice. Plus, I haven't seen a TNA ppv since my "legitimate discount cable box" stopped getting ppv.
eh, I don't mind TNA, it's kinda retarded on the storylines, but they have some decent wrestlers there
JAStewart
07-26-2004, 05:03 AM
TNA is the new Dubya-sea-Dubya.
^tr00 dat.
Yet another Summerslam prediction/spoiler from Mr. Brummie.
RAW matches:
Randy Orton vs Chris Benoit
HHH vs Eugene.
From what I've heard, the WWE are very keen to make Randy Orton the World Champion at Summerslam...
brycey
07-26-2004, 07:52 AM
I like how the "smaller, lesser known" wrestlers are getting title shots now. When there was no brand split, it was always The Rock, Triple H, The Undertaker, Kurt Angle etc getting the title shots. Now, you have people like Bradshaw and Guerrero winning the belt.
Volkert314
07-26-2004, 08:08 AM
^tr00 dat.
Yet another Summerslam prediction/spoiler from Mr. Brummie.
RAW matches:
Randy Orton vs Chris Benoit
HHH vs Eugene.
From what I've heard, the WWE are very keen to make Randy Orton the World Champion at Summerslam...
Oh god I hope not... Orton has proven nothing. He has limited wrestling skills, his mic skills aren't that great, they're just trying to cash on him cause he's young and he's a 3rd Generation superstar. It's like the Rock only the Rock could cut the promos and he can wrestle
i think theyll being eugene back and soon
brycey
07-26-2004, 08:16 AM
They better. He's so ****ing cute!
el doctor
07-26-2004, 10:51 AM
^tr00 dat.
Yet another Summerslam prediction/spoiler from Mr. Brummie.
RAW matches:
Randy Orton vs Chris Benoit
HHH vs Eugene.
From what I've heard, the WWE are very keen to make Randy Orton the World Champion at Summerslam...
That makes absolutely no sense at all. Looks like it's time to check out the Summerslam spoilers.
wtf... it's true. (as far as rumors go)
Volkert314
07-26-2004, 01:41 PM
That makes absolutely no sense at all. Looks like it's time to check out the Summerslam spoilers.
wtf... it's true. (as far as rumors go)
Vince is just trying to produce another Brock Lesner, and as soon as he hands that title over to Orton he's gonna get a big head, hell, maybe he'll go UA from the WWE and we can all be happy again :thumb:
el doctor
07-26-2004, 01:45 PM
Well, they're definitely trying to make Orton the next big thing which I think he could pull off, but what surprises me more is that Eugene will be in a big but gimmicky match at Summerslam after being in the WWE for a few months. Maybe give him a push a bit too quickly? Meanwhile, guys who've been working their *** off forever and have tons of talent won't get anywhere near a top ppv.
Also, seeing as the US title is currently vacant, they're planning on making someone like Booker T the champion, then have John Cena bring his own version of the belt claiming to be the true US Champion.
Then at Summerslam there will be a unification match.
Smackdowns story lines really are crappy these days :(
And another thing, Teddy Long is rumoured to be the next Smackdown GM.
el doctor
07-26-2004, 02:32 PM
And another thing, Teddy Long is rumoured to be the next Smackdown GM.
That's not such a bad thing though. They already made the storyline GM position seem useless so using him won't hurt. I just hope they don't make him the "black power" kind of guy that they have been. Wasn't there a night he was Raw GM recently and everything he said was "Brotha, I'm givin you this match so you can kick that white boy's ***."
brycey
07-26-2004, 02:59 PM
They should make the McMahon siblings as GMs. Not Teddy Long. That's just stupid in my opinion.
I think Shane McMahon should get a shot at the GM position instead of just getting random people to do it.
Then again, Vince doesn't give a crap about Smackdown.
thirdeyeblindislit
07-26-2004, 03:03 PM
The NWO was the best team ever made ever and anybody who wants to argue can just s##k it.
thirdeyeblindislit
07-26-2004, 03:04 PM
Raw Is On Tonight With A 60 Minute Iron Man Match Between Chris Benoit And Hhh.
brycey
07-26-2004, 03:05 PM
Vince doesn't give a crap about Smackdown.
That was truth... to the extreme. :)
^Benoit is going to win.
And D-X were better than the NWO in my opinion, I quite like how you used D-X's phrase in your sentence all about the NWO being amazing :thumb:
brycey
07-26-2004, 03:12 PM
D-X would bitchslap the nWo in a match.
thirdeyeblindislit
07-27-2004, 01:49 AM
^Benoit is going to win.
And D-X were better than the NWO in my opinion, I quite like how you used D-X's phrase in your sentence all about the NWO being amazing :thumb:
You win. Benoit won.
thirdeyeblindislit
07-27-2004, 01:50 AM
D-X would bitchslap the nWo in a match.
Sorry buddy but the NWO wolfpack was better than any team ever created. :thumb:
Ganondorf
07-27-2004, 03:30 AM
That was truth... to the extreme. :)
even tho he made an apperance on the recent episode
I was right, Benoit won.
Randy Orton vs Benoit at Summerslam.
Orton will win.
I just read that the WWE are looking into brining Kamala back for some kind of angle.
Also, The Under(wear)taker is likely to win the WWE Title at Summerslam.
even tho he made an apperance on the recent episode
He still doesn't give a crap about the show, hence the reason why RAW gets all the top stars, better writers (well...the Kane/Lita thing was....odd) and better matches.
This years Unforgiven *should* be a Smackdown only PPV, this year its been given to RAW.
That means that the next Smackdown only PPV will be...No Mercy. I think.
Sorry for double post, I'm too lazy to edit.
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el doctor
07-27-2004, 10:34 AM
Battle Royale was great. The next half hour sucked. The thing with Kamala was waaaaay too long. The last hour was awesome though. ;)
brycey
07-27-2004, 11:09 AM
Are you talking about the Gimmick Battle Royal at WM XX? Because that was THE ****.
There was a gimmick battle royal at Mania XX? I thought it was at Mania X-Seven.
It was rather humerous, the Iron Sheik only won because he couldn't go over the top rope without being injured in the process :lol:
brycey
07-27-2004, 11:57 AM
There was a gimmick battle royal at Mania XX? I thought it was at Mania X-Seven.
It was rather humerous, the Iron Sheik only won because he couldn't go over the top rope without being injured in the process :lol:
Yeah! That's the one! Sorry, for some reason I thought it was XX. X-7 had the Shane/Vince street fight. :)
I wanted Sgt. Slaughter to win it, or the Gobbledy Gooker. :)
The Shane/Vince street fight was great, Shanes dropkick accross the ring was insane.
Almost every match on that show had some hardcore elements in it, there was TLC2, The Street Fight, Hardcore title Triple Threat, HHH vs Undertaker that got hardcore.
That was the first 'Mania I saw, I taped it but now I think my tape is screwed :(
brycey
07-27-2004, 12:05 PM
That was an awesome 'Mania. My favourite was the first one I ever watched - 15.
Matches included:
Rock vs. Austin - WWF Championship
Road Dogg vs. Shamrock vs. Val Venis vs. Goldust - Intercontinental Championship
Billy Gunn vs. Hardcore Holly vs. Al Snow - Hardcore Championship
Big Show vs. Mankind - Winner becomes Special Guest Ref in Championship Match
Tori vs. Sable - Women's Championship
Big Bossman vs. Undertaker - Hell In A Cell
Test + D'Lo Brown vs. Owen Hart + Jeff Jarrett - Tag Team Championship
It was the first WWE event I ever saw (I had seen clips of the St Valentines Day Massacre and Royal Rumble '99), and still my all-time favourite event.
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thirdeyeblindislit
07-27-2004, 01:17 PM
That battle royal last night kinda kicked a$$. But jericho should have stayed by edge instead of throwing him out. They both would have done better.
el doctor
07-27-2004, 02:53 PM
Oh snap! Brock Lesnar has a contract with the Vikings.
brycey
07-27-2004, 03:15 PM
Oh snap! Brock Lesnar has a contract with the Vikings.
Is that good/bad?
el doctor
07-27-2004, 03:25 PM
Neither. He left WWE to pursue (American) football. At first it seemed no team would take him but apparently he's signed a contract with the Minnesota Vikings and is scheduled to go to training camp. This is according to wrestling sites though as I've seen nothing about it on sports sites.
brycey
07-27-2004, 03:26 PM
I read that he was booed at his last PPV appearance, and it was because he left WWE for football.
I'm watching a lot now. It's pretty good if you just pretend it's real. Plus the chick wrestlers are :naughty:, erm most of them.
brycey
07-27-2004, 03:40 PM
Miss Kitty (when she was with Chyna) > All other female wrestlers
In terms of looks. :)
chumpradio
07-27-2004, 03:43 PM
Miss Kitty was very nice.
I like Torrie or whatever her name is, and Sable has always been hot, in a pornstar type of way.
brycey
07-27-2004, 03:44 PM
Torrie Wilson? Or Tori, who was in it back in '99?
chumpradio
07-27-2004, 03:45 PM
Torrie Wilson
I seem to remember Tori being nice as well though.
brycey
07-27-2004, 03:46 PM
Both are nice. :naughty:
Nicole Bass too. :rolleyes:
chumpradio
07-27-2004, 03:51 PM
Actually, most female wrestlers are perdy.
Have they had a match were they have to get the others bra's off again, like they did a bit ago, where miss Kitty took her top off even though she won?
brycey
07-27-2004, 03:52 PM
Actually, most female wrestlers are perdy.
Have they had a match were they have to get the others bra's off again, like they did a bit ago, where miss Kitty took her top off even though she won?
I recorded that PPV, Armageddon 1999 I believe. And I don't think it's any surprise that whenever I put it on, it's at that part. ;)
chumpradio
07-27-2004, 03:57 PM
It was only for a second though.
I have the video on my pc :D...
...in slow motion ;)
brycey
07-27-2004, 03:58 PM
As do I. :naughty:
chumpradio
07-27-2004, 04:04 PM
Crazy cops putting a towel around her when she flashed :angry:
brycey
07-27-2004, 04:21 PM
Damn you Slaughter!
Volkert314
07-28-2004, 09:59 AM
Is that good/bad?
It depends on how you feel about The Next Big Thing.
dans107
07-28-2004, 10:03 AM
I don't know if you've talked about this, but I just saw Brycey on about Shane Mac...
Do you remember when he was facing X-pac (I think) and he jumped across the ring from the turnbuckle to the bottom corner to kick X-pac?
I couldn't believe how far he got...
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