WWE/TNA/ROH/Sports Entertainment

[gaslight]

I can't get over how crap the writing team can be sometimes.

No one wants to see The Boogeyman, or any gimmick like that.

[Jom]

The gimmick behind The Boogeyman is ridiculous in itself, too.

Apparently, in OVW, the writers made it sound like The Boogeyman attacked Marty Wright in his slumber, making him... THE BOOGEYMAN (DUN DUN DUN!).

[Stone Cold Bush]

There's a Boogeyman gimmick now? This is why I stopped watching WWE, their storylines took a turn for the ridiculous. :(

[gaslight]

It's precisely why I wish TNA was on my cable.

[Brew]

refl, they've fired Dave Hebner now aswell.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Boogeyman :rolleyes: Ah man, what next. Does he wear a mask or something or is he just a normal wrestler?

[ChodaBoy]

http://pwpix.net/superstars/t/theboogeyman/

[Kickflip_Burrito]

http://pwpix.net/superstars/t/theboogeyman/
:lol:

That looks ridiculous. Reminds me of Viscera a bit.

[Dannyboy15]

I think Chris Jericho is gonna kick John Cena's *** in the battle of the bands.


As for refs is Charles Robinson working for the WWE?

[Bad Blood]

Yeah, Jericho is gona come out on top, i reckon.

[JACKROXYOU]

I think Chris Jericho is gonna kick John Cena's *** in the battle of the bands.


As for refs is Charles Robinson working for the WWE?

o i cant wait

cause why watch music on mtv when you can watch it it on WWE

[simplephotographinthesun]

this boogeyman fellow looks pathetic

bring back ahmed!

[forgotton fire]

does anybody else wish there were more matches and less talk? is isn't that hard to make a storyline. hopefully hhh will take over when vince dies. he could make wwe worth watching again.

[forgotton fire]

this boogeyman fellow looks pathetic

bring back ahmed!


AMEN!!!

[ChodaBoy]

does anybody else wish there were more matches and less talk? is isn't that hard to make a storyline. hopefully hhh will take over when vince dies. he could make wwe worth watching again.
I agree with the comment about more matches, less talking.

But talking about Vince dieing? Hes only 60

[Bad Blood]

haha, it would be cool if HHH did take over though.

[forgotton fire]

especially if he became a face first. probably one of my fav. matches was when hhh and the rock had to team up. they hated each other, but they kicked @$$

[JACKROXYOU]

especially if he became a face first. probably one of my fav. matches was when hhh and the rock had to team up. they hated each other, but they kicked @$$

i remeber that

but maybe tonights smackdown will be good

i like that show more then raw now

[Bad Blood]

Same here. Since Batista went its been a lot better.

[JACKROXYOU]

no

since raw became crap smackdown is good

[Bad Blood]

ok.

What time is SD! on in american time?

[JACKROXYOU]

hmmm 7 in texas

[Junooni]

8 in VA.

[Bad Blood]

Oh right. Over here in England its on at 2:00 am or sometime around then.

[ChodaBoy]

Yeah, but we get it 3 times a week

[Bad Blood]

Yeah, i guess. I was just saying though..

[JACKROXYOU]

you get reruns

**** we dont

[JACKROXYOU]

mm one night stand

[Dannyboy15]

9 in CA

[JACKROXYOU]

SPOILERS********





you were right

a vic speech tonight

[ChodaBoy]

Please state when you talk about spoilers, im trying to avoid them until tommorrow night

[JACKROXYOU]

Please state when you talk about spoilers, im trying to avoid them until tommorrow night

i thought that was a common fact sorry

[ChodaBoy]

i thought that was a common fact sorry
No need to apologize, I was just saying that because I figured you were watching it now and may talk about whats going on

[Kickflip_Burrito]

By the way, whatever happened to Stephanie McMahon ?

[JACKROXYOU]

she lives in a whore house

[jokerman]

is it really worth staying up till 2 watch smackdown?


err no

[JACKROXYOU]

is it really worth staying up till 2 watch smackdown?


err no

yes it is

[JACKROXYOU]

if you do watch be prepared for 18 thousand jbl commercials

[gaslight]

By the way, whatever happened to Stephanie McMahon ?

She's in charge of Smackdown I think.

She is basically Paul Heyman's new business rival because she always tries to suppress his ideas and seems to want him off the creative team.

She's basically going to do what you'd expect Vince McMahon's daughter to do, and probably run the company alongside Jean-Paul Levesque when Vince passes the reigns.

[JACKROXYOU]

She's in charge of Smackdown I think.

She is basically Paul Heyman's new business rival because she always tries to suppress his ideas and seems to want him off the creative team.

She's basically going to do what you'd expect Vince McMahon's daughter to do, and probably run the company alongside Jean-Paul Levesque when Vince passes the reigns.

is that expected soon?

[gaslight]

No idea, Vince will probably run the company until his health gives out. I wouldn't expect it anytime too soon.

[JACKROXYOU]

yea he looks great

wat do you think early sixties?

[TPtheJabroni]

yea he looks great

wat do you think early sixties?

I believe Vince is in his mid 50s, but I'm not 100% sure. I do know that Flair is older than he is, and Flair is about 58.

I wish Raw would get rid of the **** Diva Search. As much I like seeing scantily clad women, if I wanted to see them, I'd watch a porno, not wrestling. Raw has been pretty sucky lately, SD has been good, but rumor has it that UPN is banning Hassan from appearing on it, so they're pretty much screwed as far as Summerslam is concerned.

[JACKROXYOU]

I believe Vince is in his mid 50s, but I'm not 100% sure. I do know that Flair is older than he is, and Flair is about 58.

I wish Raw would get rid of the **** Diva Search. As much I like seeing scantily clad women, if I wanted to see them, I'd watch a porno, not wrestling. Raw has been pretty sucky lately, SD has been good, but rumor has it that UPN is banning Hassan from appearing on it, so they're pretty much screwed as far as Summerslam is concerned.

**** thats a first

might have to trade him to raw if they want to use him again

raw STOP THE BATTLE OF THE BAND NOW!!

[Jom]

Yeah, big news: WWE is dropping the Hassan character after GAB.

Source: rajah

According to Dave Meltzer, WWE has decided to drop the Muhammad Hassan angle and the character all together. This is all due to the recent bad feedback regarding the angle.

So it appears as he will not be on RAW or SmackDown. No word on what will be done with Hassan himself, from what we know, WWE still wants to employ him.

We hope to have more on this story later.

And:

Due to the unfortunate terrorist attacks in London on Thursday, July 7, which coincided with our pre-produced WWE SmackDown! program, UPN has asked us to be sensitive to the usage of the Arab-American character, Muhammad Hassan. We have agreed with UPN, and have not had the character on SmackDown! since that date. It is uncertain as to whether or not the WWE will continue with this character beyond this Sunday’s Pay-Per-View, The Great American Bash.

Wow.

[JACKROXYOU]

well to quote batista

"dont let the door hit you on the *** on the way out!"

[Stone Cold Bush]

I haven't watched in a long time, can any current viewer tell me how modern WWE compares to it in its heyday, 1999 or 2000.

[JACKROXYOU]

you cant really do that but.....


basically more bitchin and less fighting


but the fight ing is always good

[simplephotographinthesun]

that's a god **** shame if they let hussan/copani go.

[Jom]

simple...sun: I don't think they will. They'll probably have him shave his beard off or something, or have him team up with Nunzio and Big Vito to reform the FBI or something, heh.

I haven't watched in a long time, can any current viewer tell me how modern WWE compares to it in its heyday, 1999 or 2000.

Ever since the Attitude era's reign ended, WWE's product has gone downhill substantially, but the McMahons do just enough to keep people interested (ECW One Night Stand, for example).

The tag and cruiserweight divisions are stagnant, to say the least, and the Intercontinental and US titles are not as prestigious as they used to be.

The only belts that have any interest are the WWE championship and the World Heavyweight title. All the storylines surround the performers vying for those two titles. Everything else is either a) promos, or b) contests (Diva search, etc.).

Basically, WWE hires more talent than they can afford to put out, even with two (or four, if you could Heat and Velocity) shows.

[JACKROXYOU]

simple...sun: I don't think they will. They'll probably have him shave his beard off or something, or have him team up with Nunzio and Big Vito to reform the FBI or something, heh.



Ever since the Attitude era's reign ended, WWE's product has gone downhill substantially, but the McMahons do just enough to keep people interested (ECW One Night Stand, for example).

The tag and cruiserweight divisions are stagnant, to say the least, and the Intercontinental and US titles are not as prestigious as they used to be.

The only belts that have any interest are the WWE championship and the World Heavyweight title. All the storylines surround the performers vying for those two titles. Everything else is either a) promos, or b) contests (Diva search, etc.).

Basically, WWE hires more talent than they can afford to put out, even with two (or four, if you could Heat and Velocity) shows.


yea but if chris wins the us title i believe it will be put back in the spotlight


wwe title has lost its meaning since cena

[Stone Cold Bush]

Ever since the Attitude era's reign ended, WWE's product has gone downhill substantially, but the McMahons do just enough to keep people interested (ECW One Night Stand, for example).

The tag and cruiserweight divisions are stagnant, to say the least, and the Intercontinental and US titles are not as prestigious as they used to be.

The only belts that have any interest are the WWE championship and the World Heavyweight title. All the storylines surround the performers vying for those two titles. Everything else is either a) promos, or b) contests (Diva search, etc.).

Basically, WWE hires more talent than they can afford to put out, even with two (or four, if you could Heat and Velocity) shows.
Yeah, WWE always had a problem with hiring more talent than they could ever use, and it caused a lot of great wrestlers to go to waste i.e. Lance Storm. It always made me laugh that whenever they showed the backstage area they'd show a group of wrestlers who they couldn't fit any where else, like Funaki. :lol:

[gaslight]

Killing off the Mohammad Hassan character is a good thing, it was a lame angle from the beginning.

Hopefully they can repackage Mark whatever-his-last-name-is as someone with a better angle and better prospects.

[JACKROXYOU]

Killing off the Mohammad Hassan character is a good thing, it was a lame angle from the beginning.

Hopefully they can repackage Mark whatever-his-last-name-is as someone with a better angle and better prospects.

martel or striker?

yea he is good

put on raw and give him a belt!

[simplephotographinthesun]

hassan in the FBI? i can see it happening

[JACKROXYOU]

the full blooded italians?

[simplephotographinthesun]

word

[JACKROXYOU]

No Sleep Till...... Brooklyn

[gaslight]

I meant Mark Magnus, aka Mohammad Hassan.

[RoCKinG STANTON]

I wonder when Matt Hardy came in at Raw to try to attack Edge. was expected or not.

[Junooni]

He was just giving true Muslims a bad name.

[jokerman]

For The Last Time The Matt Hardy Angle Was A Wooooorrrrrrkkkkk!!!!!

[JACKROXYOU]

I meant Mark Magnus, aka Mohammad Hassan.

aint that irish?

[forgotton fire]

if so, thing are getting crazy. next thing you know, they'll have a eskimo lifguard.

[JACKROXYOU]

if he can get fights started bring him

[JACKROXYOU]

i got the match of the week right here

[Jom]

I meant Mark Magnus, aka Mohammad Hassan.

I thought his last name was Copani :o

My bad.

I wonder when Matt Hardy came in at Raw to try to attack Edge. was expected or not.

It was expected, yes, and it was the most realistic because there's no way a fan would take a mic and get fifteen seconds of air time advertising his other matches on ROH without getting speared by huge black security guards.

For The Last Time The Matt Hardy Angle Was A Wooooorrrrrrkkkkk!!!!!

You just got owned hard by the CAPS LOCK filter, heh.

[Brew]

The caps lock filter is amusing.

//

Ivory is being released when her contract is up, which I think is in a few weeks time.

Also, HHH vs Ric Flair may happen at SummerSlam...could be interesting to see.

[JACKROXYOU]

hhh vs flair?

why

[Brew]

To make RAW interesting again. Are they still running the Evolution stable/storyline?

[JACKROXYOU]

end o evolution maybe end of ric flair?

no battle of the bands=great raw

[Jom]

I can tolerate some of Fozzy's music and some of Cena's music, but I expect this to be the stereotypical twenty-minute waste-of-time fest that happens weekly on RAW.

Also, is Mark Henry going to be back soon? Not that I miss the guy (especially during his "Sexual Chocolate" days... oh God, Viscera vs. Sexual Chocolate: the first-ever big, black, sex-crazed men match), but I remember when he first tried coming back, he was training at OVW to come back to the WWE... he was running the ropes, and the top rope snapped and he fell and re-injured his quad, knocking him out of the WWE for another year or so, heh.

[JACKROXYOU]

jack's prediction of the raw schedule

hhh return (15 min) ends in fight

edge vs kane in a stretcher (20 min) hardy comes sometime

diva search (30 min)

random fight

y2j v cena in a bob till end

[JACKROXYOU]

http://www.wicked-wrestling.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=215

match of the week: RVD vs Undertaker for hardcore championship

[jokerman]

hhh is inheriting wwe shane is not

for past few weeks hhh has been getting to know the ropes of how wwe works so to speak so has been helping with production ect ect and so has not been working out verry hard

they are breaking of evolution now becasue basically it doesnt exsist anymore and hhh flair is old and hhh needs to start his corperate work

[Jom]

I predict a HHH babyface run when he returns :\

He just seems more natural as a heel. But maybe he could play the "badass face." That would be nice.

[jokerman]

heh well if wwe was smart they'd have a benoit/eddie fewd with benoit as the best technical wrestler heel gimmick

benoit was a born heel

[JACKROXYOU]

heh well if wwe was smart they'd have a benoit/eddie fewd with benoit as the best technical wrestler heel gimmick

benoit was a born heel

hey man chris is one of the best there was

[jokerman]

yes he is and he suits playing heel

quite honestly he is quite boring just now he isnt doing anything exciting back when he was a heel he was so agressive and tenatious it was amazing

[JACKROXYOU]

w/e man

what the hell is heel?

[jokerman]

babyface or face for short is good guy hulk hogan ect ect

heel is bad guy roddy piper ect ect

[Jom]

Well, that's a very basic definition. You can like bad guys and hate good guys.

And I don't get what you're hammering on about Benoit not being aggressive recently or whatever. I wouldn't want to mat wrestle the guy, are you kidding? How about that match with Regal on Velocity that I posted a page or two ago?

Him and Angle would have a five-star match.

[JACKROXYOU]

i never remember beniot being the bad guy

[jokerman]

benoit and angle had a very long few a few years back

do you not remember benoit going on about how he was the best technical wrestler? back when he started out in wwe

seriously jom look at benoit now and then look back a few years ago there is a difference even the way he does the crossface

[JACKROXYOU]

now that i agree his cross face isnt as pretty

[jokerman]

same with the walls of jericho and the sharp shooter come to think of it

[JACKROXYOU]

walls are still nice

you just dont see them

or the sharpshooter

[jokerman]

look at the walls of jericho there backs arent even bent i mean wtf?

[Stone Cold Bush]

look at the walls of jericho there backs arent even bent i mean wtf?
The Walls of Jericho is awesome when done right, but the way Jericho does it now it is just a gay little half crab.

[jokerman]

i know the walls of jericho is meant to be a raised boston crap

to me it looks like a lowered boston ghey crap really

[Stone Cold Bush]

i know the walls of jericho is meant to be a raised boston crap

to me it looks like a lowered boston ghey crap really
He used to do it fully, so that the victim was almost vertical and his knee being applied to their back.

[jokerman]

yeah i still think the version just after when he still had them vertical but had both legs over looked kind better although probably no wear near as effect

although i wont know i only aplly submissions i dont get put in them

[Junooni]

hey man chris is one of the best there was


Chris is one of the best. Bret is THE best.

[JACKROXYOU]

not...

[DaveTheAmazing]

WCW was the best!

[Stone Cold Bush]

WCW was the best!
No!

[JACKROXYOU]

WCW was the best!

wcw is dead get over it

[JACKROXYOU]

anyways anyone watch the match i put up

[jokerman]

what match?

[ChodaBoy]

What do you think of Hassan's in-ring ability? We all know hes quite good on the mic, because he knows how to p-off the crowd. But I dont really remember what his skills are like because hes usually up against Hogan or Taker and usually ends up laying down for them

[jokerman]

he is actually wuite a good wrestler its just hes been put in a story line that should have never happened

[ChodaBoy]

Sign it! (http://www.petitiononline.com/hassan/petition.html)

[Bad Blood]

Is that actually going to do anything?

[jokerman]

nope b ecasue wwe cant do anything about it

[Bad Blood]

Thats what i thought.
Oh well, i signed it anyway...

[JACKROXYOU]

what match?

i posted a link to rvd vs undertaker in a hardcore mathc

[Jom]

Can anyone tell me what the theme song is for GAB?

[simplephotographinthesun]

What do you think of Hassan's in-ring ability? We all know hes quite good on the mic, because he knows how to p-off the crowd. But I dont really remember what his skills are like because hes usually up against Hogan or Taker and usually ends up laying down for them

not fantastic, but pretty decent

[JACKROXYOU]

he undefeated for a reason

and not just davari

[Jom]

he undefeated for a reason

and not just davari

Under the John Cena two-minute squash match on RAW. Unless you're talking about SD! only, heh.

So, theme song for GAB: anyone know?

[ChodaBoy]

I had a look on WWE.com, but suprisingly they dont seem to advertise it anywhere

[jokerman]

thats odd

i remember when wwe/f used to plug the songs no stop

[Junooni]

yeah

[Chris K]

I need to start watching WWE again, I have fallen out of the loop :upset:

[Mr. Black]

[QUOTE=brycey]You got the deaths correct (although I'm not sure about Ultimate Warrior)

Mark Henry and Jeff still wrestle now and again. The rest just disappeared. :( I liked Road Dogg.

i heard Road dogg was arrested for Drug Dealing


QUOTE]

[Junooni]

Road dogg kicks as s man.

[Bad Blood]

His finisher was crappy though.

[JACKROXYOU]

I need to start watching WWE again, I have fallen out of the loop :upset:

dont watch monday though

"garenteed to suck nuts!"

[jokerman]

why do you guys whatch inides?

tna is practically out of the indies it has ""road doog(bg james" x pac billy gun (kip james)

ectect

[ChodaBoy]

It doesnt make it the best show.

Theres a reason they were kicked out of WWE
People are only interested in those because of the era they began watching wrestling

[jokerman]

wwe kciks people becasue they are eather a)not big enough b)there creative team is so crap thy cant make up a decent story line for them or c)vinve doesnt like them

sometime there will be a legit reason but rarely

[jcxstargazer]

They wont say no to someone because of their size. Rey Mysterio is only 5ft something, Tazz is around 5"6', Zach Gowen only had one leg, so shape or size pretty much has nothing to do with it.
If there is nothing coming from the creative team, there is no need to keep a wrestler, its just a waste of money

[Scoot]

That stretcher match sounds good.

[gaslight]

How does a stretcher match work?

[gitzplayer1021]

Beat the hell out of your opponent 'til they need to be taken out on a stretcher, i think... or something like you have to strap your opponent in yourself.

[iam2000pounds]

He he... ya.

[iam2000pounds]

Death monkey...yes...ninja...yes...

[davo_guitarman]

whoa i haent watched wrestling for ages

[Mr. Black]

I stopped watchig wrestling at the point where it got stupid, all the god wrestlers left and they god rid of the hardcore championship.

[gaslight]

The hardcore division is sorely missed.

[Bad Blood]

Why did they actually get rid of it?

[gaslight]

Pressure from broadcasting authorities to tone the violence down a bit, I think.

[Bad Blood]

Ah right. I guess it makes sense a bit. There has been some awesome hardcore matches in the past.

[gaslight]

I'm sad to see it go, in the past we had great matches between like Al Snow and Hardcore Holly, now we have to see Viscera rubbing his balls on the Heart-throbs.

For shame, Vince.

:angry:

[Brew]

The WWE has gone back to its Mat Based wrestling style, apparently.

Give it a few years and we may see the Hardcore Championship return in some form or another.

I noticed this morning that the GAB is on Sky Sports rather than Box Office so I've set my Sky+ to tape it for me so I can watch it tomorrow :)

[gaslight]

Oh yeah the GAB is on like tommorow here.

I wonder if Randy Orton is set to make a return yet.

[Brew]

Before UPN got anal over the Hassan character he was set to make some kind of appearance during the night.

[gaslight]

I suppose if Orton was going to interfere in the match originally, but now can't because Hassan is going to be "killed off" so to speak, then he could always make his appearance after Taker wins and start a feud that way.

*Shrugs.*

[Chris K]

Does anyone remember Taka Michinoku?

[Mr. Black]

I remember him and Funaki at Royal rumble 2000 who kept interfearing in the umble ad gettin beat up by peopl, aand Taka getas thrown out of the ring and lands on his head, Ha ha h

[gaslight]

Yeah, does Taka still have a job with WWE? Or is he back in some Japanese promotion?

[MattyBlade]

I got a glimpse of it last night. Needless to say, I'm glad I stopped watching it.

[rbv]

He's probably out

[Brew]

Last I heard of Taka he was in Japan.

Which is a shame, because he and Funaki were a great tag team, very entertaining :)

[Bad Blood]

Funaki's still in it amirite?

[Chris K]

Last I heard of Taka he was in Japan.

Which is a shame, because he and Funaki were a great tag team, very entertaining :)

It was better when they were part of that japanese gang, with the old guy who threated to Remove some guys dick.

They were meant to be taken seriously then, by the end they were just a joke. And taz, he should get back into the wrestling side of things, he was great.

[gaslight]

Yeah Funaki gets beat down a lot lol.

Christian beat him this week on Heat or Velocity.

[Brew]

It was better when they were part of that japanese gang, with the old guy who threated to Remove some guys dick.

They were meant to be taken seriously then, by the end they were just a joke. And taz, he should get back into the wrestling side of things, he was great.

Val Venis nearly lost his penis!

/rhyme

[Chris K]

Yeah Funaki gets beat down a lot lol.

Christian beat him this week on Heat or Velocity.

I remember when Christian was a prime time WWF star! What he has become is..shameful...if he really is on Heat.

[gaslight]

Yeah I thought they were trying to make something of him on Smackdown, I guess he just needs a few easy wins to get him over a bit more.

Great finisher.

[Chris K]

Does Edge still wrestle? I remember all my old favourites..Kurt Angle when he had hair. Kane...and especially Mick Foley.

[gaslight]

Edge is on every week these days.

Feud w/ Kane & Matt Hardy storyline, has a Money In The Bank title shot for the heavyweight title that he can take sometime.

[JACKROXYOU]

**** edge needs to die

[jokerman]

why does everyone hate edge the whole thing was part of the work when matt first said they werent together he said he was happy for them then wwe worked out this amazing storyline and everyone did as planned

christion is on smackdown and he is still a top plyer he is going to beat booker boring t go on in smack down keep on beign the most entertaining person on smackdown and we'll love it end of discussion

[gaslight]

Edge has always been one of my favourites, since back in the days with The Brood and all that.

Man they had awesome music, The Brood.

[ChodaBoy]

Jokerman, Are you saying that they didnt have an affair?
I seriously doubt that

[jokerman]

after the affair and they broke up matt said he was over it and wished them the best and then wwe took all the booos they got for lita and edge and turned it into a storyline

[ChodaBoy]

Edge has always been one of my favourites, since back in the days with The Brood and all that.

Man they had awesome music, The Brood.
:thumb: Incase you dont have it (http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3GV92QJYFXIVU1PCJS15S28G3Q)

[gaslight]

Cheers Choda :thumb:.

I have that on my PC somewhere but not on my laptop, problem solved now though.

[Bad Blood]

Does anyone think that the GAB will be any good tonite?

[jokerman]

hmmm

mexicools matchs will be good

christian will put on a good performance

tag match will be crap becasue it has mnm and hidenrihc in it

bra and panties might be ok if they can wrestle which i know they cant

rey and eddie will be good

batista and jbl will probably be boring really

[gaslight]

It will have a couple of good moments I hope.

[Bad Blood]

Yeah, i think Rey and Eddies match will be good.
Is there anywhere to watch it online for free? No one has to pay for it this time do they?

[jokerman]

i dont if you want it itll probably be on limeiwre in a few days

[Chris K]

Edge is on every week these days.

Feud w/ Kane & Matt Hardy storyline, has a Money In The Bank title shot for the heavyweight title that he can take sometime.

Didn't Jeff hardy get the boot becuase he was taking some kind of drug?

[gaslight]

If you're in the US Armed Forces it is free, otherwise it's a standard PPV I think.

Wrestlezone.com has a free live coverage of it that is basically text updates.

Be sure to have a heavy duty pop-up blocker ready for action before going anywhere near Wrestlezone though.

[Bad Blood]

Didn't Jeff hardy get the boot becuase he was taking some kind of drug?

Yes.

[gaslight]

Didn't Jeff hardy get the boot becuase he was taking some kind of drug?

Jeff Hardy was on drugs yeah, the WWE frowns on abuse of drugs, whether alcohol or otherwise.

Road Dogg Jesse James was let go as a result of drug addiction, for example.

Jeff Hardy was on drugs and tending to show up late for events, generally being unreliable, so the WWE let him go. He cleaned up his act a lot during his early time with TNA, showing up really early for events and so on.

[Chris K]

Yes.

Ooh he's bad. He had it made as well, but I was kinda getting bored of the Hardy boys "extreme" attitude.

[gaslight]

I was kind of bored of Jeff diving into Lita's wardrobe before every match :lol:.

[Chris K]

That was another problem, she wore clothes :lol:

[ChodaBoy]

With this Hassan/Daivari controversy going on, a simple way to end it would be to have the match turned into a casket/buried alive match, then they can dissapear for a while

[jokerman]

if it was a simple prbablem he would be back on raw

but since both networks are owned by the same people they cant

heel probably go to ovw for a year and then get released

[Scoot]

Yeah, Hussan and Daivari have pretty much ****ed up their careers.

[Chris K]

Yeah, Hussan and Daivari have pretty much ****ed up their careers.

Whats been going on between them? How have they ****ed themselves over?

[Jom]

Yeah, Hussan and Daivari have pretty much ****ed up their careers.

No no no no no. The WWE writers ****ed up their careers. Those two were just doing their jobs.

///

And... it's time for the GAB Predictions!

Here is the form (copy and paste into your post):

World Title
Batista (C) vs. JBL

US Title
Orlando Jordan (C) vs. Chris Benoit

WWE Tag-Team Titles
MNM (C) vs. Road Warrior Animal and Heidenreich

#1 Contender's Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan

The Law and Order: SVU Crossover Episode Match (credit: gaslight)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio

Singles Match
Christian vs. Booker T

Six-Man Tag Match
bWo vs. The Mexicools

Bra & Panties Match:
Melina vs. Torrie Wilson, with Candice as guest referee

///


World Title
Batista (C) vs. JBL

Pick: Batista retains.

US Title
Orlando Jordan (C) vs. Chris Benoit

Pick: Benoit takes the strap, finally giving the US Title some prestige after Virgil's (er, Orlando's) borefest with the US title. Who Benoit would feud with is beyond me. Christian, maybe?

WWE Tag-Team Titles
MNM (C) vs. Road Warrior Animal and Heidenreich

Pick: this was over as soon as it was announced. He and Heidenreich will hit the Doomsday Device, but MNM will hit the snapshot and retain the titles. I don't envision Animal sticking around, considering they've promo'd out LOD's DVD already. I'll be absolutely shocked if Animal and Heidenreich win.

#1 Contender's Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan

Pick: I would go with Hassan winning with Orton interference if I didn't read WWE.com for news (and spoilers, obviously). With all this tension with Hassan and it being his last match, I expect Undertaker to take out both Hassan and Davairi (and have his druids take them out of the building, thus killing him off). I still expect an Orton appearence, though, and the requisite RKO.

The Law and Order: SVU Crossover Episode Match (credit: gaslight)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio

Pick: Mysterio wins again, yet this "feud" will carry on and on and on and on and on. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Eddie wins, but I still am sticking with Rey.

Singles Match
Christian vs. Booker T

Pick: This will be one of the better matches of the night. Christian wins with the Unprettier.

Six-Man Tag Match
bWo vs. The Mexicools

Pick: The Mexicools win. I'm not happy about it, but it would be a waste for the WWE to have them lose to bWo. Hollywood Nova will be the most active for bWo since he is more cruiser-like than Blue Meanie (the fat piece of crap that he is) and Stevie Richards.

Bra & Panties Match:
Melina vs. Torrie Wilson, with Candice as guest referee

Pick: everybody wins, since all three will be stripped down.

[Chris K]

How did the writers destroy their careers?

[Scoot]

No no no no no. The WWE writers ****ed up their careers. Those two were just doing their jobs.

///

And... it's time for the GAB Predictions!

Here is the form (copy and paste into your post):

World Title
Batista (C) vs. JBL

US Title
Orlando Jordan (C) vs. Chris Benoit

WWE Tag-Team Titles
MNM (C) vs. Road Warrior Animal and Heidenreich

#1 Contender's Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan

The Law and Order: SVU Crossover Episode Match (credit: gaslight)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio

Singles Match
Christian vs. Booker T

Six-Man Tag Match
bWo vs. The Mexicools

Bra & Panties Match:
Melina vs. Torrie Wilson, with Candice as guest referee

///


World Title
Batista (C) vs. JBL

Pick: Batista retains.

US Title
Orlando Jordan (C) vs. Chris Benoit

Pick: Benoit takes the strap, finally giving the US Title some prestige after Virgil's (er, Orlando's) borefest with the US title. Who Benoit would feud with is beyond me. Christian, maybe?

WWE Tag-Team Titles
MNM (C) vs. Road Warrior Animal and Heidenreich

Pick: this was over as soon as it was announced. He and Heidenreich will hit the Doomsday Device, but MNM will hit the snapshot and retain the titles. I don't envision Animal sticking around, considering they've promo'd out LOD's DVD already. I'll be absolutely shocked if Animal and Heidenreich win.

#1 Contender's Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan

Pick: I would go with Hassan winning with Orton interference if I didn't read WWE.com for news (and spoilers, obviously). With all this tension with Hassan and it being his last match, I expect Undertaker to take out both Hassan and Davairi (and have his druids take them out of the building, thus killing him off). I still expect an Orton appearence, though, and the requisite RKO.

The Law and Order: SVU Crossover Episode Match (credit: gaslight)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio

Pick: Mysterio wins again, yet this "feud" will carry on and on and on and on and on. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Eddie wins, but I still am sticking with Rey.

Singles Match
Christian vs. Booker T

Pick: This will be one of the better matches of the night. Christian wins with the Unprettier.

Six-Man Tag Match
bWo vs. The Mexicools

Pick: The Mexicools win. I'm not happy about it, but it would be a waste for the WWE to have them lose to bWo. Hollywood Nova will be the most active for bWo since he is more cruiser-like than Blue Meanie (the fat piece of crap that he is) and Stevie Richards.

Bra & Panties Match:
Melina vs. Torrie Wilson, with Candice as guest referee

Pick: everybody wins, since all three will be stripped down.

That sounds good. I'll download GAB later, I don't think it's worth the $35.

[jokerman]

im picking eddie wins becasue they need to give him credibility now since he has lost so much

im still picking undertakerto win really after the interfereance and randy will get pissed of and the fewd will heat up

[Scoot]

The secret is that Eddie is the father of Dominic. I'm 85% sure.

[Jom]

How did the writers destroy their careers?

They were pushing Hassan as this American-born wrestler who was prejudiced by fellow Americans because he was of Arab descent. Each week the two of them would cut a promo about how they're tired of being discriminated against, and they took a lot of heat (but in a good way, really, not like X-Pac heat).

Fast-forward to the July 7th show (the day of the London bombings).

Undertaker was facing Davairi in a one-on-one match. After Taker pinned Davairi, Hassan walked out from the gorilla position and began kneeling in prayer to Allah on TV. About ten seconds later, six wrestlers came running to the ring dressed up in camo pants and masks (obviously representing terrorists) and began to choke the Undertaker with piano wire (not unlike the infamous decapitations of American soldiers).

Afterwards, the six "terrorists" (five indie wrestlers and Val Venis) carried the fallen Davairi up in the air, as if he was a martyr. It was absolutely apprehensible because ALL OF THIS WAS BEING SHOWN ON TV AFTER A HORRIBLE EVENT HAD TAKEN PLACE EARLIER.

The only warning UPN gave was "Parental discretion is advised for tonight's show based on the London attacks from this morning."

UPN received a number of angry e-mails and phone calls, and they demanded that WWE get rid of the Hassan and Davairi characters. After brief deliberation, WWE obliged, saying that the two would NOT be shown on UPN anymore, and that Hassan's last appearance would be at Great American Bash.

So, to summarize, the writers build these two as Arab-Americans who feel that America is prejudiced. They aren't violent, but they were just vocal and received a lot of heat from fans for their promos.

And then the writers turn around and make them terrorists the day of the bombings. Since Vince carries the "Any publicity is good publicity" mantra, he let the angle run. Too bad he didn't foresee the negative backlash that happened.

In the UK and Australia, it was edited out. But in the US, it was shown.

[Bad Blood]

The secret is that Eddie is the father of Dominic. I'm 85% sure.

Is that a guess or have you heard it from somewhere?
I think Rey will win yet again tonite, so he secret doesnt get out.

[Scoot]

Is that a guess or have you heard it from somewhere?
I think Rey will win yet again tonite, so he secret doesnt get out.

What else could it be. That Eddie rapes little monkeys?

EDIT: I hope to god not.

[jokerman]

how could it be that becasue reys wife would have been in the mix and what about eddies wfie he would risk that

it might be rey had an affair or something similar

[Bad Blood]

Haha. I think its that too, but it but it could be something else. Also, why is Eddie so keen to tell it? Surely it would affect his family too, for the worse. wouldn't it?

[Scoot]

Haha. I think its that too, but it but it could be something else. Also, why is Eddie so keen to tell it? Surely it would affect his family too, for the worse. wouldn't it?

He's retarted now.

[Bad Blood]

Yeah, i know. But still, why would he risk his own family? He only cares for himself right now.

[jokerman]

could say the same about eugene

[ChodaBoy]

World Title
I'll go with Batista because letting JBL win would destroy Batista's character and he wouldnt be much of an 'animal' to lose to the 'wrasslin' god'.

US Title
Benoit for definate, OJ just isnt a credible champion, he never wrestles, and when he does its probably jobbing.

WWE Tag-Team Titles
Heidenreich and Animal, they'll be given a short stint as champions, as kind of a 'farewell' to the LOD

#1 Contender's Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Undertaker, Orton will attempt to RKO 'Taker, but Taker shoves Hassan in the way instead and gets the 3 count (farfetched I know, but who cares :p), then something following the match to get rid of H+D.

The Law and Order: SVU Crossover Episode Match (credit: gaslight)
Rey to win, and let it drag on for a looooooooong time. I cant see them letting this 'secret' out, because for one thing it isnt real, and they probably wouldnt like to drag a kid into it so deep, although I wouldnt put it past them.

Singles Match
Christian to get this as some form of revenge, and it will push him a little towards the title picture (US or Heavyweight).

Six-Man Tag Match
Mexicools, nothing much storyline-wise, just a way of building up popularity for both teams.

Bra & Panties Match
Pfft, does it matter?, it will end up in the typical Torrie wins but strips of anyway, then maybe Melina will attack them. Im actually suprised they've built up this match, usually its just thrown in on the night

[Bad Blood]

#1 Contender's Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan

Pick: I would go with Hassan winning with Orton interference if I didn't read WWE.com for news (and spoilers, obviously). With all this tension with Hassan and it being his last match, I expect Undertaker to take out both Hassan and Davairi (and have his druids take them out of the building, thus killing him off). I still expect an Orton appearence, though, and the requisite RKO.


I though Hassan was being dropped after the pay per view?
I think Taker will win.

[Scoot]

I though Hassan was being dropped after the pay per view?
I think Taker will win.

Taker has to win. Hassan is out of the WWE.

[Bad Blood]

Is anyone watching it then?

[Scoot]

Is anyone watching it then?

Meh, I'm downloading it. It's not gonna be anythng like Vengeance, which when I went to it I thought it was gonna suck.

[Bad Blood]

I might download some of it later on if there are any matches that are particularly good.
I think it's gonna be quite good for a SD! pay per view though.

[ChodaBoy]

Taker has to win. Hassan is out of the WWE.
There is the key word, Hassan. The character is out of WWE, Mark Magnus isnt, provided they bring him back with a different persona, UPN cant complain.

[Scoot]

There is the key word, Hassan. The character is out of WWE, Mark Magnus isnt, provided they bring him back with a different persona, UPN cant complain.

Hmmm. That sounds cool. Call him Lavaman, strap on a crazy suit, and....wait....isn't that what Hurricane did?

Nah, call him Mark Magnus and make him cool, not gay.

[Bad Blood]

I don't see how they could do that though.

[Scoot]

I don't see how they could do that though.

It's possible. Simon Dean was once Nova, but now he's......gay....

[Brew]

World Title
Batista (C) vs. JBL

Pick: Batista retains. JBL's time is over.

US Title
Orlando Jordan (C) vs. Chris Benoit

Pick: Benoit. Virgil needs something else to do and the title is pretty worthless around his waist.


WWE Tag-Team Titles
MNM (C) vs. Road Warrior Animal and Heidenreich

Pick: Animal and Heidenreich. Mainly for comic value seeing as the tag titles are a joke at the moment.

#1 Contender's Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan

Pick: Taker, with interferance from Randy Orton

The Law and Order: SVU Crossover Episode Match (credit: gaslight)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio

Pick: Eddie, so we can finally get this bastard storyline over and done with.

Singles Match
Christian vs. Booker T

Pick: Christian - he needs some wins under his belt on SD! before being pushed for a title.

Six-Man Tag Match
bWo vs. The Mexicools

Pick: bWo. Hopefully they'll split up the Mexicools after this and get some good singles cruiserweight matches going.

Bra & Panties Match:
Melina vs. Torrie Wilson, with Candice as guest referee

Pick: Who cares.

[Scoot]

Yup. Booker T is pretty much a fill-in for space. Eg = Booker T vs. Heidenreich, Booker T vs. Angle, Booker T vs. Christian

[Jom]

I though Hassan was being dropped after the pay per view?
I think Taker will win.

Yeah. I didn't say otherwise, did I? I was just saying that Taker "killing" those two would be the writers' way of writing those two off the show.

[Brew]

Yup. Booker T is pretty much a fill-in for space. Eg = Booker T vs. Heidenreich, Booker T vs. Angle, Booker T vs. Christian

He's old and has back problems, won't be long until he finally decides to retire.

[JACKROXYOU]

the insane luchador needs no help from the mexicools

who is the juice agian?

[ChodaBoy]

Juventud Guerrera

[jcxstargazer]

Well there you have it, Hardy admits its a work and hes returned to full time WWE.
WWE say he hasnt, probably trying to keep it going.
AJ Styles says "But if the whole thing was a work, Matt wouldn't be taking all these independent bookings,".
Yes he would, WWE would have an agreement with ROH, and they wont say "Oh no, we dont want him signed up that would give us PUBLICITY"

[Bad Blood]

Yeah. I didn't say otherwise, did I? I was just saying that Taker "killing" those two would be the writers' way of writing those two off the show.

Ah yeah, sorry.

[JACKROXYOU]

Juventud Guerrera

who?

[jcxstargazer]

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/juventud/profile/

[JACKROXYOU]

has he ever done anything

by the way anyone have opening music for
rvd
chris beniot

[jcxstargazer]

Benoit (http://www.goldberg4life.wwefans.co.uk/Smackdown/Chris%20Benoit.mp3)
RVD (http://www.goldberg4life.wwefans.co.uk/Smackdown/Rob%20Van%20Dam.mp3)

[Bad Blood]

I think i remember him from WCW

[JACKROXYOU]

Benoit (http://www.goldberg4life.wwefans.co.uk/Smackdown/Chris%20Benoit.mp3)
RVD (http://www.goldberg4life.wwefans.co.uk/Smackdown/Rob%20Van%20Dam.mp3)

thanks

[jokerman]

One More Time I Am Going To Say This Roh Is In Wwe Pocket They Have Been For Months!!!!!!!

[simplephotographinthesun]

Jeff Hardy was on drugs yeah, the WWE frowns on abuse of drugs, whether alcohol or otherwise.

Road Dogg Jesse James was let go as a result of drug addiction, for example.

Jeff Hardy was on drugs and tending to show up late for events, generally being unreliable, so the WWE let him go. He cleaned up his act a lot during his early time with TNA, showing up really early for events and so on.

grandmaster sexay (brian lawler) was fired due to drug possession at the canadian border

[Bad Blood]

I wonderd where he went all of a sudden.
Haha, i loved it when it was Scotty 2 hotty, Rikishi and him teamed up.

[jokerman]

its funny though becasue brian lawler is on mephis wrestling and so is jerry lawler

and i never undertood why wwe alows it

[Chris K]

I thought ken Shamrock was great. So Was Steve Blackman. Those guys had great theme music!

[Bad Blood]

Haha, Steve Blackman was awesome.
he could kick like a right bastard!

:wave: night.

[Chris K]

Haha, Steve Blackman was awesome.
he could kick like a right bastard!

:wave: night.

Indeed he could. Good night.

I watched Blackman in the '98 Royal Rumble. Man, he was never gonna win :angry:

[jcxstargazer]

Wow, so they have just un-intentionally shown the 'terrorist' attack on the Undertaker. And let me say...WTF? If Hassan wasnt there, we wouldnt have any of this trouble

[Kickflip_Burrito]

:lol: LOL :lol:

A 'terrorist' attack on The Undertaker?! Ah man, they are desperate for new writers.

[Jom]

Great American Bash results:

World Title
Batista (C) vs. JBL

Outcome: Batista "retains," yet JBL wins via DQ.

US Title
Orlando Jordan (C) vs. Chris Benoit

Outcome: Virgil wins after exposing the metal connectors that tie the ropes together.

WWE Tag-Team Titles
MNM (C) vs. Road Warrior Animal and Heidenreich

Outcome: new tag team champs. Yeah, you read that right. This is registering extremely high on my WTFometer.

#1 Contender's Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan

Outcome: Undertaker wins. He gives him a Last Ride through a hole in the stage, and the last image of Hassan is a bloodied back of the head.

The Law and Order: SVU Crossover Episode Match (credit: gaslight)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio

Outcome: Mysterio reverses Eddie after a Frog Splash for a quite roll-up pin.

Singles Match
Christian vs. Booker T

Outcome: Booker T wins.

Six-Man Tag Match
bWo vs. The Mexicools

Outcome: Mexicools win in a squash.

Bra & Panties Match:
Melina vs. Torrie Wilson, with Candice as guest referee

Outcome: Melina wins, but not before everyone getting stripped down to the B&P.

Of course, you may want to read up on spoilers for more information. As usual, I recommend John's recap on Rajah.

[Scoot]

Great American Bash results:

World Title
Batista (C) vs. JBL

Outcome: Batista "retains," yet JBL wins via DQ.

US Title
Orlando Jordan (C) vs. Chris Benoit

Outcome: Virgil wins after exposing the metal connectors that tie the ropes together.

WWE Tag-Team Titles
MNM (C) vs. Road Warrior Animal and Heidenreich

Outcome: new tag team champs. Yeah, you read that right. This is registering extremely high on my WTFometer.

#1 Contender's Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan

Outcome: Undertaker wins. He gives him a Last Ride through a hole in the stage, and the last image of Hassan is a bloodied back of the head.

The Law and Order: SVU Crossover Episode Match (credit: gaslight)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio

Outcome: Mysterio reverses Eddie after a Frog Splash for a quite roll-up pin.

Singles Match
Christian vs. Booker T

Outcome: Booker T wins.

Six-Man Tag Match
bWo vs. The Mexicools

Outcome: Mexicools win in a squash.

Bra & Panties Match:
Melina vs. Torrie Wilson, with Candice as guest referee

Outcome: Melina wins, but not before everyone getting stripped down to the B&P.

Of course, you may want to read up on spoilers for more information. As usual, I recommend John's recap on Rajah.

Well that sucks ***. So JBL is the WHC, we have to hear Eddie and Rey whine for another 4 weeks, Mexicools win, Animal is back, and this PPV wasn't really that great? Wow.

[Jom]

Well that sucks ***. So JBL is the WHC, we have to hear Eddie and Rey whine for another 4 weeks, Mexicools win, Animal is back, and this PPV wasn't really that great? Wow.

JBL isn't WHC. He won on a DQ. Titles can't change hands on a DQ, only on a submission or pinfall.

If that wasn't the case, then Shelton would be IC champ after Carlito counted himself out on RAW a week ago, right?

[JACKROXYOU]

**** i was hopeing jbl would be whc

[gaslight]

It sounds pretty average Smackdown fare but I ordered the replay on here in a few hours to see if there's any good spots.

I didn't think Animal/Heidenreich would win because I thought Animal was just a one week return kind of deal. Odd. Oh well, anything is better than MNM.

Sick sad world: Diva match being the second highest on the card.

Rofl at Hassan being killed off in a similar manner to how the Big Show took out Angle before his time off and wheel chair angle.

No Randy Orton.

Shame about Benoit not being a title holder, he's really one of the best they've got and I don't even understand why Orlando Jordan has a job with WWE. He's essentially the Carlito of Smackdown, and even used the exact same finishing spot that Carlito used on Benjamin.

[Bad Blood]

Hmm i might download a couple pf matches later.
I wouldnt mind seeing it all though.

[Bad Blood]

I think that if its a title match, DQ should affect the match just like a pinfall or submission does.

[gaslight]

Yeah, that would be fair, but the DQ loophole makes for some good/clever storyline additions.

I ordered it for my Foxtel, and come the time it should have started, nothing but a black screen.

Displeased.

[Bad Blood]

Yeah, thats a good point actually.
Does this mean Batistas turned into the bad guy?

P.s That sucks.

[gaslight]

I'll just download it knowing they have my money and I'm not stealing for once :lol:.

I'm not sure, a heel turn would be weird for Batista considering how over he is at the moment.

[Brew]

I've seen most of the PPV, it wasn't too bad I s'pose.

Hassan being powerbombed through the stage was pretty cool, I seem to remember Big Show doing it to Kane on SmackDown! a few years ago though with a chokeslam.

[jokerman]

why are you comparing oj to carlito carltio has charisma,he is in good shape and can wrestler oj cant do anything right

the best thing about the ppv was the bwo on 3 wheelers


tna dq count as title change

benoit should go back to japan as the pegasis kid and actually get to wrestle and be used well

[~grif~]

why dosent this go in the Sports Forum?
or is it a sport?

[Bad Blood]

Its sport entertainment.

Thats why, i guess...

[Bad Blood]

I've seen most of the PPV, it wasn't too bad I s'pose.

Hassan being powerbombed through the stage was pretty cool, I seem to remember Big Show doing it to Kane on SmackDown! a few years ago though with a chokeslam.

I remember that.

[jokerman]

becasue little 10 year olds who think they are ace will be going "WRESTLINGS ALL FAKE EVEN WHEN THEY BREAK KNECKS ITS FAKE GET IT OUT OF THE SPORTS SECTION!!!"

[Brew]

^Kinda what he said.

Also, this is probably the biggest non-spammed up Pit thread so its good where it is :)

[Jom]

It stays in The Pit because this thread was here long before the Sports forum (and Video Games and Movies forum, for that matter). This thread was here long before the inception of those forums, so it stays here.

Said in context, of course.

[JACKROXYOU]

yea no respect here

wow gab was up for dl quick

[jcxstargazer]

Wow, theres ............ 1 match scheduled for tonight - I cant wait :rolleyes:

[JACKROXYOU]

yeah kane v edge in a really gay match

whos watching tonight?

not me

[jokerman]

might watch on wedensday

[JACKROXYOU]

where did you get those theme songs?

[jokerman]

limewire

[jcxstargazer]

So, Just when you think the Diva Search cant get any worse - they turn it into a hot dog eating contest.

[JACKROXYOU]

jesus christ

[jokerman]

if that was on an adult channel where i could what it fine but when before and after there are big sweaty men in tights no

[JACKROXYOU]

its so stupid

one fight?

thats crap

[jokerman]

lmfao at JACKROXYOU lack of a title

anyway why did they drop king of the ring i never found that out