WWE/TNA/ROH/Sports Entertainment

[white_riot]

Sonjay Dutt owns and hasn't he been wrestling in TNA for a while.

[The Ska Man]

Whos gonna see Vengence?

[Jom]

Nor will it shut down. I have been watching alot of my brothers CZW Dvd's lately and there is this one guy named Mike Quackenbush (cant spell his name) and he is self taught and is the best technical wrestler I have ever seen. He makes Chris Benoit look like Orlando Jordan. He even makes my beloved Bret Hart look bad.

Wow. Between Benoit, Hart, and the omitted Kurt Angle, that guy must be good. I don't buy that he's self-taught, but there are certainly surprises in this industry.

I'm debating whether or not to see Vengeance. Hooters is showing it free, but it just doesn't seem like it's going to be that great of a PPV, although Michaels vs. Angle II will be good. Nothing like WM21, but still good. Everything else will not be that great, I don't think :(

[Scoot]

Whos gonna see Vengence?

I'm going :D

[Brew]

I think its on Sky Box Office over here so I'll read the spoilers on Monday...

[Scoot]

Wow. Between Benoit, Hart, and the omitted Kurt Angle, that guy must be good. I don't buy that he's self-taught, but there are certainly surprises in this industry.

I'm debating whether or not to see Vengeance. Hooters is showing it free, but it just doesn't seem like it's going to be that great of a PPV, although Michaels vs. Angle II will be good. Nothing like WM21, but still good. Everything else will not be that great, I don't think :(

Hooters gets old after the 1000th visit.

I think HIAC will be okay, Angle and Michaels will obviously be kickass.

[pikester]

I'll probably DL it.

[Jom]

Hooters gets old after the 1000th visit.

I think HIAC will be okay, Angle and Michaels will obviously be kickass.

Yeah, but the PPV is free, as are drinks, even. Meals aren't though :(

I can put up with the bitchy servers, that's not an issue. But I don't have a PPV box at home, I just have basic cable. I can't order it online, either, since my connection is so slow.

[Scoot]

Here's the full line-up for Vengeance, if you didn't already know.

World Heavyweight Champion Batista vs. Triple H (Hell in a Cell)
Kane vs. Edge (w/Lita)
WWE Champion John Cena vs. Christian vs. Chris Jericho
Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels
Intercontinental Champion Carlito vs. Shelton Benjamin
Victoria vs. Christy

[The Ska Man]

Here's the full line-up for Vengeance, if you didn't already know.

World Heavyweight Champion Batista vs. Triple H (Hell in a Cell)
Kane vs. Edge (w/Lita)
WWE Champion John Cena vs. Christian vs. Chris Jericho
Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels
Intercontinental Champion Carlito vs. Shelton Benjamin
Victoria vs. Christy

Thats it? I thought it was longer.

[ChodaBoy]

Can anyone tell me the difference between Smackdown Vs. Raw, and Smackdown Vs. Raw Platinum? I know that platinum is cheaper, but dont know why

[iam2000pounds]

Here's the full line-up for Vengeance, if you didn't already know.

World Heavyweight Champion Batista vs. Triple H (Hell in a Cell)
Kane vs. Edge (w/Lita)
WWE Champion John Cena vs. Christian vs. Chris Jericho
Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels
Intercontinental Champion Carlito vs. Shelton Benjamin
Victoria vs. Christy
It's too short, I'll see it any ways though.

[Scoot]

It's too short, I'll see it any ways though.

It should also have these matches:

Regal and Tajiri vs. Hurricane and Rosey for Tag Team Titles
Viscera (with Lilian Garcia) vs. Simon Dean (with Maven)

Eugene and Maven are my predictions for the final two Smackdown! picks. This is just a prediction.

[ChodaBoy]

I wonder what the new SD title will look like

[Scoot]

Here are some of things that the wwe might do -

1. Since the Wwe Championship is now on raw they could have both champs wrestle so only theres only one champion on raw and that would mean that
the undisputed wwe Championship name could be brought back, like before Brock Lesnar signed the deal to be just smackdwon champ only.

2. Both titles could be kept on raw and then they could bring in the ecw Championship belt for smackdown belt and Eric B. brought back the wcw title for Raw. Then bring back both the wcw and ecw tv Championship titles and then join them together ( that make some good storyline for wwe ) just like they did with the wwe Championship and wcw Championship. Then both Raw and smackdown will have 2 champions and then there will be 5 Championship on both shows and the wwe wants to have the same amount of belts on both shows.

3. Triple H could be sent to smackdown before his H.I.T.C. ( hell in the cell ) match for the world title and then on June 26, 2005 he can win the title from Batista and then both show would have champs again. For those of you that dont know the H.I.T.C. match for the World Heavyweight Championship is draft proof, meaning that if one of the competitors of the H.I.T.C. match is drafted to smackdown from raw then the match will still happen and if the winner of the H.I.T.C. match has been traded then the titlw will also chang shows.

4. Batista gets traded to Smackdown before or after the H.I.T.C. match with the World Heavyweight Championship and again both shows have champs again.
So now people till me people what you guys think? and if you think one of these 4 things might happen.

[ChodaBoy]

Well 3 cant happen, since there are no more shows between now and Vengance

[Scoot]

I wrote that awhile ago, and kept it on MS Word (I have no idea why)


http://www.wzforums.com/showthread.php?t=100513

Smackdown!'s results, including new Smackdown! title

[Jom]

Eh, you need an account in order to view whatever's there.

And besides, if you found out the spoiler, that gives everyone a pretty good idea of where to go to find spoilers, not just that site :)

[Scoot]

password is wz

and you don't need an account

[Jom]

Well, that was a rather unsatisfactory review of the show. There was a better-detailed description on Rajah :-\

[Scoot]

cool I'll check it out

[JACKROXYOU]

so uh what can we talk about here?

[Scoot]

nuttins safe nomore

[Jom]

Up to you, really. SD! isn't even officially shown until tomorrow in the Americas, so if you want to talk about the show, have a disclaimer :)

I think RAW is fair game, though... well, in maybe ten hours, since that's how far gaslight is behind me.

Sup gaslight.

EDIT: scoot, don't have that attitude. Not everyone lives where you live, and not everyone watches the show at the same time you do :)

[Scoot]

it was a joke, once again, internet jokes come up short

[gaslight]

Can anyone tell me the difference between Smackdown Vs. Raw, and Smackdown Vs. Raw Platinum? I know that platinum is cheaper, but dont know why

If I remember correctly, games go Platinum when they reach a certain amount of sales. So they give it the Platinum tag and they sell it at a reduced price.

That's my understanding of it anyway, it should be the exact same game, but make sure you check with store staff.

[Po0sH]

Torrie Wilson + Sable = Huge BoNAr

[Scoot]

Torrie Wilson + Sable = Huge BoNAr

Thanks for sharing.

[Brew]

Sable looked rough last time she was in WWE.

[Scoot]

Sable looked rough last time she was in WWE.
Haven't seen her around for a few years...

[Scoot]

Smackdown! tonight, although many of us know of what happens...

[Brew]

Sable was last seen in WWE in 2003/2004 I think as Vinnie Mac's whore.

She looked alright the first time she did PlayBoy, after that she started looking meh...

[ChodaBoy]

Yeah, she really aged.

http://poll.wwe.com/hbkshirt2/

[white_riot]

Isn't Brock married to Sable.

[Brew]

I'm not sure, they might be married...last I heard they were just a regular couple.

[white_riot]

Vince, Brock and Sable once had a threesome.

[Bad Blood]

thats just great

[Brew]

Vince, Brock and Sable once had a threesome.

The Genetic Jackhammer along with The Next Big Thing and uh...Sable?

Not the greatest mental image.

[JACKROXYOU]

Spoiler!!! Warning dont read if you havent had the chance to see SD!!!!!!






Wow tonights fights were marginal except for rey pull'in out all the stops
big show shoulda ended that match 5 min earlier

[Relmar]

WWE died with Bret Hart

[Scoot]

No.

That's where it begin.

Smackdown! was exceptional, with the Rey Eddie match being good.

[Relmar]

nah, it was too commercialized afterwards

[Brew]

WWE only got good in the very late 90's by mimicking the ECW style of wrestling.

/has been watching Rise and Fall of ECW.

[JACKROXYOU]

WWE only got good in the very late 90's by mimicking the ECW style of wrestling.

/has been watching Rise and Fall of ECW.

ecw would be a nice weekend show

[Bad Blood]

i finally get to watch wrestling tonite in over 3 weeks :D my tv has been messing up lately

[Scoot]

ECW should fukin come back on Saturday nights. This is bull****. What's the point in bringing out a PPV every year with absoultely no storyline? All it is is old rivals fighting once again.

[ChodaBoy]

:lol:
Muhammad Hassan, real name Mark Magnus (half Irish)

[Jom]

:lol:
Muhammad Hassan, real name Mark Magnus (half Irish)

Are you serious? Wow. :shock:

I knew that Davairi's first name was Sean, but that's ridiculous.

I missed Smackdown!, I had to work. I heard it sucked, though. Confirm/Deny?

[Scoot]

Yup.

The end match was pretty good.

But next weeks 6 man wil be good as well.

[gaslight]

Anyone watching Vengeance in two days?

[simplephotographinthesun]

:lol:
Muhammad Hassan, real name Mark Magnus (half Irish)

he's nothing but a tan and a beard

SAY IT AINT SO MUHAMMAD :upset:

[Jom]

Anyone watching Vengeance in two days?

Up in the air. I might wait for a better PPV. It just seems like it had a lot of potential, but I don't know anymore.

We'll see, though :cool:

[Bad Blood]

oo vengeance tomorrow. Anyone watching it?

[ChodaBoy]

If I had some spare cash hanging around, I may order it since it doesnt look to be the worst PPV.

I would like to see the triple threat because I think Christian will win, Kane/Edge might be good because im expecting Matt to make a comeback, and the HIAC just to see how brutal they make it

/points to avatar

[Scoot]

oo vengeance tomorrow. Anyone watching it?

I'm in Vegas right now, got my ticket! It's in my hand right now. It's gonna kick ***! I'm sitting somewhere in the middle. I'm thinkin of making a few signs, like BATISTA = AGGRESSIVE OR SUBMISSIVE? or SWEET CHIN vs. ANKLE LOCK.

[Bad Blood]

nice one! I'd love to watch a main event.
/is jelous

[Scoot]

It's the second main event I've ever been to. I'll tell you guys all about it when I get back, which will probably be late Sunday night. I'm using a hotel computer right now. Those who watch it won't need to read what I wrote about it, cuz they'll already know.

[Bad Blood]

its on at 1am on monday morning over here in englad, and i can't watch it cause i have school in the morning.

[Scoot]

Okay then i'll tell those who didn't get a chance to watch it how it went down. My best friend has better seats then me. Third row! Mine are ninth if I'm reading correctly on this ticket. His parents are rich as hell.

[Scoot]

Say it isn't so RVD!

http://www.fhwrestling.com/home/2005/06/25/rvd-on-possibility-of-being-fired-his-injury-wwe-push/

[simplephotographinthesun]

firing RVD = very bad idea

99% doubtful it will happen

[gaslight]

I'll be watching at a friend's place like I usually do, good stuff.

I really doubt Matt Hardy will make an appearance, but it would be awesome.

[simplephotographinthesun]

a masked participant should just do a run-in during edge's match, that would be a nice touch from the writing team.

[ChodaBoy]

With long black hair, and give him the twist of fate. That would piss people off so much

[Scoot]

Matt Hardy should definately come back, I will frickin scream like hell if he does.

Kane and Hardy should set aside their differences and team up to destroy Edge. Now THAT would be unexpected.

[ChodaBoy]

They have differences?

[Brew]

Eh, Hardy is busy this weekend and he debuts in ROH sometime soon....I think.

[Brew]

:lol:

Thats great.

The WWE seem to like having returning wreslters/debuting wrestlers pop up from under the ring, one good example is The Big Show during the Austin/McMahon Cage Match at...St. Valentines Day Massacre.

[simplephotographinthesun]

it would be too much of a styles clash for kane's rejuvenated unstoppable monster-gonna-rip-you-a-new-one persona

match: edge gets briefcase from lita, knocks kane out cold with like 2-3 shots. masked participant runs in from ringside seats, beats edge up, leaves him out cold. kane wakes up, tombstone on briefcase for the win.

[gaslight]

Well the difficulty in Matt Hardy coming back would be that he isn't employed by WWE anymore...

[ChodaBoy]

Sometimes, firing is a work.

[gaslight]

I doubt it in this case, if it was a work, he wouldn't have put so much time into his own site, started taking indy bookings, The Matt Hardy Show, and things like that. If Matt Hardy turned around and the whole thing was a work, I think it would really make all his integrity/honesty with his fans count for nothing seeing as he has lied to them and enjoyed their sympathy/attention over the issue for so long.

[Jom]

Matt Hardy is still under contract with the WWE, sort of. He's still under the 90-day no-compete.

But come on, this really seems like he's going to be back in July or August:

“I’ve had an amazing few days and I am ecstatic about my future. I want to thank everyone who has been supportive and believes in me–you mean so much more to me than you’ll ever know. Wherever I end up in the future, I just want you guys to stick with me and continue to believe in me. I promise I won’t let you down. I will prove that nice guys do finish first. I will prove that anything is possible if you work hard enough for it.”

Hardy finished with, “That was a hell of a reaction I got in Phoenix, Arizona, considering I was in North Carolina–gotta love those MFer’s.”

Something tells me that he's coming back. Wouldn't you be pissed as all hell if the stuff that happened on RAW was done to you?

[gaslight]

He is pissed off about it, he's made no secret of how he feels about the storyline being exploited that way.

If Matt Hardy came back to the WWE and was in on the whole thing, I would lose all the respect I ever had for him.

[JACKROXYOU]

He is pissed off about it, he's made no secret of how he feels about the storyline being exploited that way.

If Matt Hardy came back to the WWE and was in on the whole thing, I would lose all the respect I ever had for him.

i was so happy to just hear his music play

[ChodaBoy]

:lol: Brock wants to get back into WWE! After all this, surely they arent just going to swing the door open and let him in, so to speak.

[Scoot]

Lesnar back in the WWE...I even forgot what his music sounded like!

[Scoot]

Not very clear, but okay...

[Brew]

Duh Dun...Duh Dun Dun DUN!

Something like that.

Just think of all the fun things the WWE could do to Brock...like getting him to job to every cruiserweight...maybe even the Brooklyn Brawler...

[ChodaBoy]

I would upload it. But I dont want to :p

So what do you think will happen with the missing title on SD? Its hard to say, because they clearly need something better than OJ as the main champion. They could bring the winner of the triple threat over and never reveal this secret title that Theodore "strange walk" Long has

Just think of all the fun things the WWE could do to Brock...like getting him to job to every cruiserweight...maybe even the Brooklyn Brawler...
:lol: that would be hilarious

[Brew]

Teddy Long has really gone far in his career...not so long ago he was a simple Referree.

[simplephotographinthesun]

he was a decent manager in WCW

[ChodaBoy]

I wonder if they (Long and Bischoff) actually have any say in what goes on. I would imagine that they do since the years of knowledge they have between them would be useful.

[simplephotographinthesun]

vince's dick is bigger than both of theirs, thus no

[Brew]

Vince has grapefruits.

[ChodaBoy]

Vince has grapefruits.
:lol:
I remember when he used to say that.
Vince has always been involved in good storylines, my favourite being either the entire thing between him and Austin, or when he was the "mastermind" behind the Coporate Ministry and the night he revealed himself on Raw

[simplephotographinthesun]

i loved when vince beat HHH on smackdown to become the champ, that was highly unexpected

[Scoot]

My predictions for Vengeance are as follows:

Christy vs. Victoria = Victoria

Christy, however many hours of training she spends with Lita, cannot beat Victoria. She lost to Trish at Wrestlemania 21 which nobody predicted and I don't think she'll win this time either.

Intercontinental Champion Carlito vs. Shelton Benjamin = Carlito

As much as I want Shelton to win, Carlito has a much higher chance. Why? The WWE writers. They have been disappointing me with Carlito, giving him these championships without doing anything to earn them. I figure he will prevail again tomorrow.

Kane vs. Edge (w/Lita) = Kane

This is the perfect moment for Matt Hardy to return. He and Kane will set aside the hatred they once had for each other and destroy Edge. Hardy and Kane will double team the helpless Edge, destroying him and ending the feud.

Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle = Michaels

It's only fair to Michaels to prevail against Angle and settle this rivalry. Angle is a newbie to RAW and Michaels is a veteran.

WWE Champion John Cena VS. Chris Jericho vs. Christian = Cena

Cena is a dead lock for this title. The writers gave it to him at WM 21 and they're not giving it up just yet. He'll survive with it a little longer on RAW and eventually lose it sometime around Christmas.

WWE World Heavyweight Champion Batista vs. HHH = HHH

HHH's experience in the Hell in a Cell match type will boost his confidence against the newbie to the cell Batista. HHH will get the title back but Batista will get it back at Summerslam.

[Scoot]

I'm pretty stoked for Vengeance but I'm low on funds so this will be my first and last main event of the year. But....WM 22?

[gaslight]

Teddy Long has really gone far in his career...not so long ago he was a simple Referree.

Before long, Michael Cole might even be the women's champion.

[Jom]

Hahahahahha.

Predictions, for what they're worth:

Christy over Victoria
Carlito over Shelton (sadly)
Kane over Edge (Hardy is a no-show, but there's another teaser)
*Michaels over Angle (Summerslam will be the tiebreaker, I think)
Cena over Y2J/Christian
Batista over Trips

* will be the match of the night.

[gaslight]

It's nice to see Victoria in a PPV match, she needs more TV time.

What might happen is that perhaps Kane will do his own teaser, like play Hardy's music to distract Edge and get the win.

*Taps nose.*

[Brew]

Before long, Michael Cole might even be the women's champion.

:lol:

//

Anyone remember Kevin Kelly? He was ripping into the WWE in an interview not so long ago.

[ChodaBoy]

I remember he constantly got called a hermaphradite (sp) in interviews with The Rock

[JAStewart]

I've not been following it of late. What is the scandal?

[ChodaBoy]

In real life, Matt Hardy was seeing Lita, but she had an affair with Edge. WWE tried to keep it away from the storylines even though every fan knows.
In the storyline, Kane was married to Lita, then she had an affair with Edge in the storyline. So Kane is virtually playing the role of Matt Hardy.
On Raw during Edge and Lita's "wedding", they played Matt Hardy's entrance music, but it turned out to be a trick by the writers.

[Brew]

In real life, Matt and Lita were apparently really close to getting engaged aswell...

[gaslight]

Yeah, he'd bought a ring and everything.

[simplephotographinthesun]

i believe the relationship was around 4 years

[Scoot]

Okay. I got my ticket for Vengeance on my desk, a bag of popcorn that I'm smuggling in and three signs, one that says "You suck", "You Screwed Kane" and "Agressive Animal", one for Angle, Edge and Batista. If you're watching you may be able to see me in the crowd, but I'm kinda small so I doubt it.

[ChodaBoy]

A sign sure to get you remembered. "IM GAY"

[Scoot]

That's true. When I went to RAW I saw a sign that said "Captain Charisma and his pet goat" and I almost died.

[Scoot]

2 hours before Vengeance and I'm stoked. Who has ordered or downloaded it?

[gaslight]

Yeah, I'm about to head off to my friend's place to watch it.

[Jom]

I'm staying in because I'm lame like that. I'll either go to the July one or Summerslam at Hooters, provided I don't have to go back to university by then.

[ChodaBoy]

I'm just getting updates from Rajah, if there is anything worth watching, i'll download it

[Jom]

Yeah, that's all I'll do as well.

In my head, I'm thinking, "Hardy cancelled his appearance and is going to be at Vengeance... (repeated over and over)" but it's still up in the air. I would love to see it, but I would love it more to see him "debut" again at Summerslam.

[Scoot]

RVD should come back at Summerslam.

[ChodaBoy]

I've decided not to read Raw related spoilers anymore. I can watch the show live, so there isnt much point in ruining it. The only things I want to know are, if Matt returns, or if the Rock returns, but i'm sure someone here can warn me if they find out

Before the Cena/Christian/Jericho match, I thought of another possibility. Although its unlikely, two people could cover one person, then the arguement goes on, but no-one gets to keep it and it gets put on Smackdown for the winner of the 6 man next week

[Scoot]

Just returned from Vengeace. That was way better than the last main event I went to, which was RAW. Sweet ****. Turns out every prediction except one I made was right.

Carlito def. Shelton Benjamin

Benjamin had the upper hand for much of the match, eventually forcing Carlito up the ramp. He chased after him and brought him back to the ring. He then launched two immense moves and Carlito managed to survive them both. But Carlito managed to expose a turnbuckle and Shelton slammed his head into it, giving Carlito the win.

7.2/10

Shawn Michaels def. Kurt Angle

This was an excellent match. Angle dominated much of the match but Michaels spirit rose up and earned him the victory. He even managed to survive a suplex on the announcers table. HBK caught Angle with a Sweet Chin Music, settling the rivalry.

8.9/10

Victoria def. Christy

IMO the worst match of the night. It was very boring and the only way Victoria managed to win was by using the ropes for leverage.

5.2/10

Cena def. Jericho and Christian

Cena's will was the factor of the outcome in this case. An average match, but Tomko attacked Cena during the match. With Jericho out, Christian was hoisted up for the FU and was slammed down and pinned.

7.6/10

Kane def. Edge

Kane laid waste to Edge despite the Snitsky interference, delivering a huge chokeslam that finished the match. Lita could only watch helplessly as Kane destroyed her new husband.

8.4/10

Batista def. HHH

I was wrong about this one. Batista managed to fight off all of HHH's arsenal of moves, until the Pedigree. I was so sure he was going to be pinned. Amazingly, he managed to kick out and got back to his feet. HHH was then spinebustered on the steel steps and then Batista Bombed for a three count, delivering his first ever loss in a Hell in a Cell.

9.0/10

Rating : 8.3/10 for the night.

[Understanding In a Crash]

Anyone know where some of the following people are (mostly ECW guys).

Bill Alfonzo (Alot of notable superstars managers in ECW.. Blew a whistle was involved in a match that left him so bloody..)

Jerry Lynn

Steve Corino

Mike Awesome

Justin Credible

Raven

Mikey Whipwreck

I think that's it.

[Jom]

Uh, hey scoot: PPVs are live throughout the world regardless of time zone (differing from the shows, obviously), there's no need for spoiler alerts, although I do admire your willingness to use huge fonts :)

[Scoot]

Uh, hey scoot: PPVs are live throughout the world regardless of time zone (differing from the shows, obviously), there's no need for spoiler alerts, although I do admire your willingness to use huge fonts :)

Just wanted to make sure :thumb:

[gaslight]

Yeah, Vengeance was better than I expected.

Carlito doesn't deserve a PPV spot, it's sad that Shelton had to job to him. Hopefully this just means that Shelton is being moved on to bigger things.

Christy Hemme doesn't deserve her job, Victoria had nothing to work with and it was just embarassing to watch it. A waste of three minutes, the WWE Women's division doesn't do Victoria justice, there's no competition, only T&A playboy fodder.

The WWE title match with Cena/Christian/Jericho was much better than I expected, though Cena was carried the whole time by the more experienced guys.

Batista v Triple H was a good match but the ending was a little puzzling, what did he do, forget to hit him with the sledgehammer? It looked very unfinished. Odd.

[Brew]

Anyone know where some of the following people are (mostly ECW guys).

Bill Alfonzo (Alot of notable superstars managers in ECW.. Blew a whistle was involved in a match that left him so bloody..)

Jerry Lynn

Steve Corino

Mike Awesome

Justin Credible

Raven

Mikey Whipwreck

I think that's it.

Raven is the current NWA TNA Champion.

The rest I'm unsure about.

[gaslight]

Anyone know where some of the following people are (mostly ECW guys).

Bill Alfonzo (Alot of notable superstars managers in ECW.. Blew a whistle was involved in a match that left him so bloody..)

Jerry Lynn

Steve Corino

Mike Awesome

Justin Credible

Raven

Mikey Whipwreck

I think that's it.

Last I knew:

Billy Alfonso - was at ECW One Night Stand managing Rob Van Dam. My guess is he's out of work otherwise.
Jerry Lynn - TNA
Steve Corino - no idea.
Mike Awesome - worked the ECW One Night Stand show, not sure what he does otherwise.
Justin Credible - worked the ECW One Night Stand show, otherwise no idea.
Raven - TNA champ.
Mikey Whipwreck - worked the ECW One Night Stand show, not sure if he has consistent work.

[gaslight]

I should add, that The Godfather showing up today was probably the most unexpected thing of any PPV.

:lol:

[experi_metal]

Carlito retaining the title... now that's cool









/lame attempt at a carribbean(sp?) accent :upset:

[ChodaBoy]

The Godfather turned up? :lol:
Still pimping?

[gaslight]

Yep.

Lillian asks Vis to marry her, and in the middle of response the Godfather's music hits and he comes out with some really skanky ho's in tow.

He asks Vis if he wants to be tied down to one woman, or keep on ridin' the "Hoooo Train".

Vis: ...all aboard!

:lol:

Funny but probably a waste of time.

[ChodaBoy]

Hahaha. I said this a long time ago, only with Val Venis thrown into the mix.
I'll have to dowload it

[Scoot]

That was funny. I believe the next PPV is the Great American bash, is it not?

[Brew]

^I think it is.

It'll probably suck.

[Scoot]

Most Smackdown! PPV's do suck. E.g Armaggedon, No Way Out, Judgement Day

[Alive]

HO TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nothing like the Godfather at 3am to wake you up. The PPV was suprisingly good, much better than I expected.

[Scoot]

My match predictions for GAB:

Smackdown! Chamion vs. #1 Contender (both of which no one knows)
Orton vs. Taker
Big Show vs. Matt Morgan
Hussan vs. Chris Benoit
4th Draftee vs. Booker T
MNM vs. Heidenreich in a handicap match

[Jom]

I don't think Orton is in wrestling shape yet, though. He's still way too small and skinny from not weight-training.

Now, below I have a spoiler, but it's decoded, so you can safely browse through the comment and have no clue what I'm talking about unless you choose to decipher the code :)

POSSIBLE RAW SPOILER

I was browsing RSP earlier, and I came across an editorial with the fourth (or fifth) RAW picks being revealed.

I’m also excited to share a HUGE Raw draft spoiler with you. Now listen since many of you do not want to know one of Raw’s final two draft picks for tomorrow night, I’m going to do my picks and at the very end, give you the draft picks name. I have an excellent source so while things can change you can be 99.9% sure that the name you see is correct. If you want to find out the name just [look below for the spoiler]

Note: it's at the very, very bottom of this post, and decoded like it was on the site.

NOTE: there are 29 letters, so hopefully that speeds up the decoding process.














HFKYFSJCRDPUMNVSDFRXCAFTEHNWI


24-1-25-11-29-8-3-29-6-9-15-10

/spoiler

[Brew]

Uh...

I'm confused :(

Edit:

:eek:!

Could be interesting to see what they do with that superstar now.

[simplephotographinthesun]

:eek:!

[ChodaBoy]

At least he didnt spoil it. Which is what I think he intended to do...dont quote me on that though

[Bad Blood]

im still confused! how do i find out what it says?

[Scoot]

You're sure about this?

Holy crap.

What you do to find out what it says is you look at the letters that he wrote and then the numbers and whatever number he typed you read down the line until you find it.

First one is T to help you out.

This is how we should do spoilers from now on.

[simplephotographinthesun]

hopefully we'll see some 5 stars soon ;)

[Jom]

No no no, guys, I said it's POSSIBLE, not ABSOLUTE or DEFINITE :)

At least he didnt spoil it. Which is what I think he intended to do...dont quote me on that though

Well, it doesn't really count as a "spoiler" if it's only probable, right?

I wanted to post the decoding, but not blatantly say, "The fourth or fifth draft pick is going to be [this person]."

We don't know if it's absolute or definite, that's why I said "probable."

I just posted what the writer wrote, a direct copy/paste from the site. Nothing changed from what the original writing said, just the code.

[Scoot]

Oh.

But still, it would be sweet.

[Jom]

Guys, we don't even know if this is going to happen. That's why I said "possible" as opposed to "this is definitely going to happen." The person who wrote the editorial doesn't even know if this is going to happen.

I mean, this just doesn't seem feasible anyway. Everyone's going to watch RAW and it's not going to happen, and even though I said that this isn't a done-deal, people will say things like "d00d Jom u wer teh st00pid n teh rong w/ ur predictions lol."

It wasn't even my prediction! I'm just quoting what the article said.

If you guys want to read the editorial I found this on, click here (http://www.ringsidepost.com/editorials/headlines/121828858.shtml).

[ChodaBoy]

Yeah, there is never anything for definate. They keep it extremely secret, even for WWE employees, its a 'need-to-know' basis. Even the person drafted finds out the day before

[Scoot]

I think it's Eddie.

[Jom]

I think you guys are forgetting that this is the last week of the lottery :)

This means that RAW and SD! get two draft picks per show, and also do not forget that trading happens until midnight Thursday, so that means a lot of bodies will be moved.

[JACKROXYOU]

**** thats quite a pick

[Scoot]

**** thats quite a pick

You know for sure who it is?

[JACKROXYOU]

You know for sure who it is?

no but that would be crazy if that hint was true

vengence was sweet

[Scoot]

no but that would be crazy if that hint was true

vengence was sweet

You're tellin me! Some assclown spilled his popcorn on me when I was cheering for Michaels.

[JACKROXYOU]

yea shawn won it

unfortunatly now this means they will keep fightiong

[gaslight]

Angle v HBK 2 was a good match, they really know what they're doing. It's a pity the final kick by Michaels didn't have anywhere near the impact of the kick he delivered to Shelton on Raw a while back.

[JACKROXYOU]

Angle v HBK 2 was a good match, they really know what they're doing. It's a pity the final kick by Michaels didn't have anywhere near the impact of the kick he delivered to Shelton on Raw a while back.

that shelton kick was sweet

[Bad Blood]

i know this is a bit random but i'd like to have kane back with his mask on. He was awesome then!

[JACKROXYOU]

i know this is a bit random but i'd like to have kane back with his mask on. He was awesome then!

he was showin his worth when he kicked edge's ***

[JACKROXYOU]

i missed most of that fight unfortunatly

did he mess with lita at all? vice versa?

[Scoot]

He choked her but Snitsky came out and got him off her.

[JACKROXYOU]

yea snitsky was there the whole time right?

[JACKROXYOU]

so raw is happening tonight how do we talk about it?

[Scoot]

In two hours. My cousin is going to it. I think it will be moderate, nothing special apart from the draft pick.

[Jom]

That draft pick may not even happen, though, remember.

You can talk about RAW, but just be weary of giving away spoilers to the Europeans and Aussies (the latter doesn't see the show until Wednesday North American time).

[Scoot]

We'll abide the rules :)

I know that pick may not happen. It would be cool for Eddie if he could actually get on RAW. He's finished on SD! from his loss to Rey.

[ChodaBoy]

:rolleyes: x 200
Thats a damn spolier!

[Jom]

It wasn't a spoiler, only a "What if..." statement, I believe. He used "would be" and "could" in his sentence, and I think he meant to portray that what he said is only a prediction, and not a valid spoiler.

[Scoot]

It wasn't a spoiler, only a "What if..." statement, I believe. He used "would be" and "could" in his sentence, and I think he meant to portray that what he said is only a prediction, and not a valid spoiler.

Exaclty right.

[ChodaBoy]

As yes, I read it wrong. My bad
:upset:
I think depending on who actually gets traded (all together, not just tonight) will define where they are taking the shows. I.E, making Raw the commonly known 'greater' show, with SD as a mid-carders and lower show

[Scoot]

I wish RAW became the dominant show. I mean, it has much better writers and wrestlers. I mean, did anyone see the Edge/Lita thing coming? Whereas JBL and his Loser Cruisers are whining and bitching about everything and everyone every week.

[Scoot]

And it's a good thing JBL is in this 6-man match this week because if he ended up on RAW I would kill the writers.

[ChodaBoy]

Im quite suprised neither competetor went onto the roof of the cell.
Good job he didnt land the pedigree on the stairs, that could have done serious neck damage

[Jom]

NEW POSSIBLE SPOILER FOR RAW












The rumored trades to RAW tonight (according to some site, I forget the name) are Big Show and either Rey or Eddie (since their feud is over). It is believed that if Rey goes, he will get a push for the IC title.













/spoiler

[Scoot]

I already know for sure whom it is, I won't spoil it for you though. :thumb:

[ChodaBoy]

http://www.armpitwrestling.com/AP/APUndertakerNoSell.htm

[Scoot]

http://www.armpitwrestling.com/AP/APUndertakerNoSell.htm

That's quite the article. Seems as if Undertaker is the same out of the ring as in the ring.

[Jom]

Hahahahahaha, nice parody.

You all caught that it was a parody, right?

[ChodaBoy]

I should hope so
Seems as if Undertaker is the same out of the ring as in the ring.:lol:
Especially after the line Authorities luckily stepped in before this man could do the Last Ride on the 1-day-old

[Scoot]

Tha's funny.

http://www.amiright.com/parody/80s/rupertholmes2.shtml

Lamest lyrics ever written.

[Scoot]

Time to go watch RAW!

[Scoot]

Holy crap to the two new picks. Carlito is an *******. That's all I'll say.

[Jom]

I wish the main event lasted longer than it did.

[Scoot]

Yeah that was pretty short.

An overall average RAW.

Best Quote: Nature Boy Ric Flair - "I'm gonna grab your TESTICLES!"

[gaslight]

I wish RAW became the dominant show. I mean, it has much better writers and wrestlers. I mean, did anyone see the Edge/Lita thing coming? Whereas JBL and his Loser Cruisers are whining and bitching about everything and everyone every week.

Raw has always been the dominant show.

The Edge/Lita thing wasn't the work of the writers though, it happened in real life and then the WWE picked up on it, so noone saw it coming.

[simplephotographinthesun]

wow, the 2 smackdown picks...:eek:

[Brew]

Hmm.

Thats all I have to say for the picks.

[gaslight]

I think the picks were good, except for the Big Show but it doesn't really matter where he is.

Batista will be great for raising the profile of the Smackdown show.

[ChodaBoy]

I'm still not entirely sure about Hogan. Does that mean he's back for good?

[Bad Blood]

i wish i didnt read who the picks were :(

[Brew]

I doubt it.

He's too old...

[gaslight]

No, Hogan won't come back for good.

Most of his time will be spent on his Hogan Knows Best reality show.

Television gets worse every year.

[Jom]

:eek: @ the last picks for SD!.

Too bad it looks like the show will suck on Thursday.

[ChodaBoy]

In the words of Kurt Angle, its true, its damn true.

I think Flair will have to retire soon, he looked like he was struggling last night

Post SD drafts anyone?

[gaslight]

Flair is getting really old but he still puts Carlito to shame :lol:.

[Jom]

***SD! draft pick spoilers***























JBL won the elimination match (surprise, surprise). Since Big Show left for RAW, the first draft pick then took his place, which was Christian. JBL didn't win the championship, though, because Batista's music hit, thus making JBL the #1 contender instead of a champion.



















/spoiler

[simplephotographinthesun]

JBL vs. batista, that should be quite a match...


:lol:

[Bad Blood]

:lol: Its going to get interesting i think!

[Brew]

Lets hope they keep the belt on Dave.

[JACKROXYOU]

whats is every ones favorite finisher?

mine is either

HBK's sweet chin music
Christian's Unprettier
or the Batista Bomb

[simplephotographinthesun]

petey williams' canadian destroyer
tommy dreamer's tommy-hawk
john kronus and perry saturn - total elimination
any form of the sharpshooter

and much more...

[BrianLim]

Wrestling used to be fun. But now I lost interest. I guess it's because there are better shows and I am less immature. But there's something about wrestling that makes people watch it. It's funny that more guys watch wrestling and more guys are the wrestlers.

p.s.Hey I just noticed that this thread already passed it's anniversary. This thread started in May 2004 and it is still alive.

[JACKROXYOU]

petey williams' canadian destroyer
tommy dreamer's tommy-hawk
john kronus and perry saturn - total elimination
any form of the sharpshooter

and much more...

mmm the sharpshooter

[simplephotographinthesun]

buff bagwell's buff blockbuster was pretty good also

[Jom]

p.s.Hey I just noticed that this thread already passed it's anniversary. This thread started in May 2004 and it is still alive.

omg observation :eek:

[JACKROXYOU]

smackdown tomarrow?

is that when the 5 man championship is fought?

[ChodaBoy]

6*

*I think

[gaslight]

Wow, the WWE have asked Matt Hardy to hold off for a few weeks from signing a contract with TNA, having realised the business potential of bringing him back.

So now there is a real possibility that Matt Hardy may indeed return for the Edge/Lita/Hardy storyline the fans have been wanting since it happened. Wow.

[ChodaBoy]

Its good thinking for them, just as long as Matt and Edge can keep it professional and not beat the living hell out of each other.
I hear that Matt Hardy is asking his fans what they want him to do

[JACKROXYOU]

hey choda whats your favorite finishers?

[JACKROXYOU]

Wow, the WWE have asked Matt Hardy to hold off for a few weeks from signing a contract with TNA, having realised the business potential of bringing him back.

So now there is a real possibility that Matt Hardy may indeed return for the Edge/Lita/Hardy storyline the fans have been wanting since it happened. Wow.

that be nice to see matt hardy

[Jom]

Wow, the WWE have asked Matt Hardy to hold off for a few weeks from signing a contract with TNA, having realised the business potential of bringing him back.

So now there is a real possibility that Matt Hardy may indeed return for the Edge/Lita/Hardy storyline the fans have been wanting since it happened. Wow.

So, has your respect for Hardy decreased significantly now, like you said it would?

Its good thinking for them, just as long as Matt and Edge can keep it professional and not beat the living hell out of each other.
I hear that Matt Hardy is asking his fans what they want him to do

I firmly believe that Matt will keep it professional. I wouldn't complain if he gave Lita the Twist of Fate and then a kick right in the box while she's on the ground, though, being the dumb cunt that she is.

[gaslight]

So, has your respect for Hardy decreased significantly now, like you said it would?

I said I would lose respect for him if it turned out that him being fired was a fake storyline, which it wasn't.

[ChodaBoy]

I do wish he would come back, hes more talented that most of the guys on the roster, Nunzio, S2H, and the rest. The same with Jeff, they worked really well as a tag team.

I also think that bringing back "stables", or whatever you like to call them. If you remember back in the day at the peak of WWE, there were some decent groups - Ministry including the Brood, Corporation, DX. The only two that have existed recently were Evolution and the Cabinet

[JACKROXYOU]

I said I would lose respect for him if it turned out that him being fired was a fake storyline, which it wasn't.

i was out of wwe for a while how did he even leave?

[gaslight]

He "left" because the WWE fired him after the Edge/Lita affair. Ostensibly because he was the first to confirm it in the media, but probably because he was the expendable one.

[Alive]

I hate the current thing everyone has for Matt. Sure, he got cheated on then fired as a direct result. Poor guy. Now stop whining about it. Anyone see (I don't know if it's been posted) that 'Matt Hardy show' trailer on his website? Terrible stuff. He should do something instead of moaning about it.

[JACKROXYOU]

He "left" because the WWE fired him after the Edge/Lita affair. Ostensibly because he was the first to confirm it in the media, but probably because he was the expendable one.

o so it was under wraps?

[ChodaBoy]

I think he was out of action because Kane chokeslammed him through a table off the entrance stage. And they let him go during his absence

[Relmar'd]

Its more real than you guys think...

like magic

[Jom]

I said I would lose respect for him if it turned out that him being fired was a fake storyline, which it wasn't.

Ohhhhh. My fault, sorry.

But yeah, SD! is Thursday, JACKROXYOU.

And my guess is that since Big Show left, the fourth or fifth draft pick will take his spot in the elimination match, so it'll still be six guys.

I kinda hope it's gonna be Shelton Benjamin, but I don't think he'll move. I think he'll be the WWE Champion by the end of 2006 though. I think it's going to be Christian, since he was the one who was so confident that he was going to get moved or whatever, heh.

Fifth pick will be pretty big as well, from what I understand :wink:

Anyways, this also means that there are going to be trades!

Here's one obvious one:

Tyson Tomko for Rene Dupree (or something close along these lines. Christian needs his problem solver, and get Rene's uglyass back with Grenier to form La Resistance)

Any other noteworthy predictions?

[ChodaBoy]

I would think they will give Christian a title soon. He's being pushed and is getting more promotion than quite a few. Hes alot better to listen to on the mic unlike Heiden "Who wants to be my friend" reich. Even if he is on his own, I think he'll do ok. He could always join the cabinet as the secatary of communication (peeps):eek:

[gaslight]

The new diva search looks like the usual playboy fodder hunt.

Sucks to be a woman in the WWE, if you had any dreams of a career with any dignity.

[Jom]

ATTN: gaslight

Riva says that from his city (Cairns) to yours (Sydney), it would take about 48 hours to drive there.

Can you confirm/deny this? This seems like it's too long, but of course, I am not from Australia :)

[gaslight]

I'm not entirely sure about that, never driven there. But I just checked a travel site, and it says it would take 44 hours by bus. So I imagine 48 hours by car wouldn't be too unrealistic if you consider the stopping for sleep/food/etc.

[Jom]

Alright, thanks a lot. It just seems really odd to me because it gets imprinted in our heads that your continent/country is the smallest one out of the seven, and the time it takes from the edge of Canada to, let's say, the border of Georgia/Florida in the United States, it would be just over one day non-stop.

[ChodaBoy]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=20E5JSC2
Batista vs HHH (Hell In A Cell, Vengeance 2005)

[gaslight]

That was a great match, did you guys see it on PPV?

[ChodaBoy]

Nope, I downloaded it though. Quite a good match I thought, made a change that no-one ended up on the roof - or falling off it.
Apparently HHH tried to make a point that he could make a more 'hardcore' match than ECW, which is why the weapons used were introduced

[Jom]

PS: that link works, Choda. Thank you.

/me realizes connection speed is slow :(

[ChodaBoy]

Have you heard the modifications they (WWE) have made to the ECW DVD?
They censor out most of the swearing, should have known but still :rolleyes:, but they got rid of the 'Enter Sandman' entrance! That was one of the highlights of the night for me.

P.S AntiHero, I deleted my other posts because I didnt feel they were needed, so if you want to get rid of yours too...of course you dont have to.

[JACKROXYOU]

Ohhhhh. My fault, sorry.

But yeah, SD! is Thursday, JACKROXYOU.

And my guess is that since Big Show left, the fourth or fifth draft pick will take his spot in the elimination match, so it'll still be six guys.

I kinda hope it's gonna be Shelton Benjamin, but I don't think he'll move. I think he'll be the WWE Champion by the end of 2006 though. I think it's going to be Christian, since he was the one who was so confident that he was going to get moved or whatever, heh.

Fifth pick will be pretty big as well, from what I understand :wink:

Anyways, this also means that there are going to be trades!

Here's one obvious one:

Tyson Tomko for Rene Dupree (or something close along these lines. Christian needs his problem solver, and get Rene's uglyass back with Grenier to form La Resistance)

Any other noteworthy predictions?


ooo rene on raw!

great

[JACKROXYOU]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=20E5JSC2
Batista vs HHH (Hell In A Cell, Vengeance 2005)

is it the whole match?

[Jom]

P.S AntiHero, I deleted my other posts because I didnt feel they were needed, so if you want to get rid of yours too...of course you dont have to.

Heh, thanks for telling me, actually. Thanks also for that match :)

JACKROXYOU: yeah, it is, actually.

So, I'm playing WWE Day of Reckoning right now for the Cube, and I decided to make a new character.

I just created...


... Heidenreich.

Shut up. I wish that stupidass march would be in the game :(

I'm going to take him through career mode. It'll be awesome.

[JACKROXYOU]

Heh, thanks for telling me, actually. Thanks also for that match :)

JACKROXYOU: yeah, it is, actually.

So, I'm playing WWE Day of Reckoning right now for the Cube, and I decided to make a new character.

I just created...


... Heidenreich.

Shut up. I wish that stupidass march would be in the game :(

I'm going to take him through career mode. It'll be awesome.

we need more of those match downloads

[Jom]

I just watched the PPV match that Choda uploaded.

Does anyone else think that they inject JR with some testosterone before PPVs? I mean, he's bad enough as it is on RAW ("Bah God! Bah God!" That's a man's wife! That's a man's wife!"), but on PPVs, I think the writers stick some hardcore adrenaline in the old guy.

"Oh mah God! Oh mah God! A spinebuster on the steel steps! Oh mah God! Oh mah God! Bah God! Did you see that King? Bah God! (repeat over and over with hoarse voice)"

[simplephotographinthesun]

pretty good match, JR probably cut his life short by 5 years

[experi_metal]

ATTN: gaslight

Riva says that from his city (Cairns) to yours (Sydney), it would take about 48 hours to drive there.

Can you confirm/deny this? This seems like it's too long, but of course, I am not from Australia :)

i live in Newcastle (1 hour north of Sydney) and it takes a little over 8 hours to get to the Gold Coast (the furthest north i've been) which is just over half-way between Cairns & Sydney... i think

[experi_metal]

did anyone have Smackdown!2 : (can't remember name) on PSX? i've also got a cheat cartridge and used to experiment with creating moves... best move ever... Twist of Stunner

it started off as a Twist of Fate, then as he was swinging in the air, he'd drop down into a Stone Cold Stunner :naughty:

[gaslight]

Can you take video captures of it?

[Brew]

Smackdown! 2: Know Your Role :cool:

I played that game for years.

[Alive]

I have a link to the whole PPV (Vengance) if you want it. I don't know how big it is or how long it will be up, I've also got this weeks raw.

[Brew]

The HIAC match was alright, the steel chair wrapped in barbed wire was something different and fun.

[JACKROXYOU]

yewa the spinebuster on stairs or hhh getting his head rammed into the stairs

[Bad Blood]

didn't HHH crack his ribs and stuff at vengeance or do you think its just for the story line?

[simplephotographinthesun]

he's probably taking a week or two off to recover and to wait to introduce a new storyline as batista is no longer on RAW

SPOILAH ALERT

[Bad Blood]

I knew that was going to happen, with the belt and all.

/tries to avoid spoiler to people who don't want to know!

[gaslight]

I think Triple H is probably fine, apart from the usual bumps and bruises and all that you would expect.

It's going to be exciting to see what HHH's next storyline is. /Sarcasm.

The only thing he ever does is go after a title, so unless they have something big planned, it will be same old, same old.

[Bad Blood]

thats true actually, i've only just realised that. Im thinking/hoping for a HHH and Cena rivalry

[ChodaBoy]

thats true actually, i've only just realised that
:eek: I wish we could change the size of smileys because the DEFINATELY needs it

[Bad Blood]

ha, i've only just got into it these past couple of months, so forgive my lack of WWE education

[gaslight]

Oh it's all good.

RVD on Raw; it's a good thing.

Carlito having a job still irritates me.

Big Show on Raw, I can't see where it will go.

Chris Masters is as boring as ever, do you think they will try the blind angle with him like they did with Jamie Noble's woman? What happened to him anyway.

[Bad Blood]

Carlito pisses me off so badly! I dont see where Big Show's role will go either. I think someone like 'show or HHH or someone a lot bigger than Masters should go shut him up!

[ChodaBoy]

I'm not exactly sure what they could do with Masters. I know what i'd like them to do...
Hes just not interesting.

[gaslight]

They're planning to release a few wrestlers soon, let's just hope Masters is one of them. He certainly isn't bringing in any ratings or money, so I can't see them justifying keeping him on. He will never get over with the fans, so what's the point of boring us with him?

[pikester]

Wonderful, wonderful site: http://www.pwtorrents.net

That is all.

[ChodaBoy]

People that need out IMO

Heart throbs (Antonio & Romeo)
Chris Masters
Maven
Steven Richards

Scotty 2 Hotty
Shannon Moore
Nunzio
Mark Jindrak
Akio

Maybe Heidenreich and Bashams

[Bad Blood]

i couldnt agree more to that! ^^

apart from Heidenreich. I think hes ace!

[gaslight]

The trouble with WWE is they have far too many employees to utilise them all effectively at once, but they are reluctant to give them up because they don't want other promotions to utilise their services.

[ChodaBoy]

They could do with getting rid of the un-used though, they will lose money because of the change of tv station, but if they put more money into the quality of the programming by using only good talent, then they wont have to worry about what other companies do with their people.

Thats why WWE won the monday night wars, and WCW failed. WWE looked at what they did, while WCW always tried to out-do WWE

[JACKROXYOU]

People that need out IMO

Heart throbs (Antonio & Romeo)
Chris Masters
Maven
Steven Richards

Scotty 2 Hotty
Shannon Moore
Nunzio
Mark Jindrak
Akio

Maybe Heidenreich and Bashams

i agree except for scotty

i luv scotty