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Murder Sheep
05-02-2005, 03:05 PM
I thought t was good when The Rock did the Rock Bottom with his eyebrow. HHH is too cool though. He is the lol.
**Spoiler Alert!**
At the next RAW PPV (uh...Vengeance?) its going to be Batista vs HHH in a Hell in the Cell.
HHH will get the title back then.
ChodaBoy
05-02-2005, 03:17 PM
***POSSIBLE SPOILER***
Its not been confirmed yet, it most likely will be on Raw. But a Hell in a cell is supposed to be on at the next Raw PPV, which should settle it, as this is how HHH usually ends a fued. The poster for it has been leaked which shows HHH and Batista surrounded by the cage, but knowing WWE, they could change it to spite us internet folk
:D .
simplephotographinthesun
05-02-2005, 04:20 PM
that hell in a cell match will be one of the slowest/most lackluster of all time
The HIAC matches died after the 6-man one at Armadgeddon 2000, that was like the stepping stone to the Elimination Chamber.
ChodaBoy
05-02-2005, 04:42 PM
I hope they see that the more brutal matches are the way to go. Obviously they wont show as much as they used to, but fans want to see more extreme moves and 'foreign objects' being brought in more often, rather than the occasional world title belt.
The fans chanted in Benoit/Edge match for tables. And the ECW ppv would have sold out instantly, and the demand for extreme indy matches is always there.
/Petitions for TLC matches
gaslight
05-02-2005, 04:50 PM
Edge v Benoit was nowhere near as vicious as I was hoping for.
The WWE needs to revise its creative team, and I propose that I be on it, for lots of money.
Frankenstrat
05-02-2005, 05:58 PM
What they need to do is bring back the days where there were factions and each faction had like 50 guys. THen two factions would have a war and there would just be bodies in the ring and total mahem.
Kickflip_Burrito
05-02-2005, 07:07 PM
What they need to do is bring back the days where there were factions and each faction had like 50 guys. THen two factions would have a war and there would just be bodies in the ring and total mahem.
That would be effing awesome, I can't remember the last time there was a massive brawl between loads and loads of wrestlers. WWE is lame nowadays. Shame. :upset:
adrian
05-02-2005, 07:09 PM
I agree that they need to bring back stables in some form or another. Don't know about 50 guys :confused: but you're on the right track. Evolution was a decent stable, all four guys have held the top belt now.. But they need stables like the good ol' days, stables with a gimmick and a reason not just a bunch of wannabe-mid-carders thrown together (JBL's Cabinet)
Stables need to be there, but they need to be able to make an impact. Good talent, right reasons and an original gimmick. Anyways, my thoughts..
ChodaBoy
05-02-2005, 07:22 PM
The Corporate Ministry was the best stable ever. Period.
When they were put together, it was the entire locker room, versus Austin
Edge v Benoit was nowhere near as vicious as I was hoping for.
The WWE needs to revise its creative team, and I propose that I be on it, for lots of money.
/nominates you
:-*
So, Hurricane and Rosey are the new tag champs. Who saw that one coming?
I'll be honest: I didn't.
Rise Me Up
05-02-2005, 07:41 PM
I'm watching tonight!
Kickflip_Burrito
05-02-2005, 07:46 PM
I agree that stables have to have a gimmick like DX and The Ministry of Darkness. Thats why I think Evolution were boring. They were just a bunch of guys in a group, nothing amazing or special about that.
ChodaBoy
05-02-2005, 08:03 PM
Has anyone gotten tired of the Undertaker recently? He doesnt do anything anymore except come out, wrestle and repeat that every week. They need to include him in a story, let him lead somewhere
JoeSchmo
05-02-2005, 08:30 PM
i just found out at work today that one of my coworkers is Val Venis' uncle...dont know if hes still around tho, havent watched wrestlng in a while
RoCKinG STANTON
05-02-2005, 09:41 PM
Has anyone gotten tired of the Undertaker recently? He doesnt do anything anymore except come out, wrestle and repeat that every week. They need to include him in a story, let him lead somewhere
I agree. the undertaker is a classic wrestler. he should be the god **** main event every night. they need some story like when he got barried alive and came back. phony but it was sweet. something like that.
adrian
05-02-2005, 10:16 PM
They need to take Takers character in a direction, lead him down a path, really tell a story with his character like they used to. The problem is, as legendary as he is, he is getting older and his matches are going downhill. Now, I am a huge fan of Undertaker, and am always the quickest to defend him in my circle of friends.. But I will admit that his matches, his moves are not what they once were. That in mind, a really good storyline that takes his character down an unbeaten track may just be the thing to re-spark the fans interest in the Deadman.
Corporate Ministry is a perfect example of how they have done this in the past, with Undertaker.
i just found out at work today that one of my coworkers is Val Venis' uncle...dont know if hes still around tho, havent watched wrestlng in a while
Yep, Venis is still around; unfortunately, he is more of a Heat wrestler, and any RAW matches he has are job matches. It's too bad... he should be an IC contender or something.
So, there were two big surprises on RAW (for me, I mean). I won't spoil them, but I want to talk about them later.
Murder Sheep
05-03-2005, 01:31 AM
Gangrel was cool cause he was a vampire and he sucked peoples blood and the wine he spat out and gangereal is cool and the fire. HE was klike dracula in the movie dracula where dracula is sucking peoples blood dracula is so cool hes my favourite wrestler
gaslight
05-03-2005, 03:35 AM
It's going to be interesting to see what the Undertaker's finale is with the company.
I heard rumours on the video game front of a Smackdown vs Raw 2.
Anyone have any info?
ChodaBoy
05-03-2005, 05:00 AM
Dont know about that, But I do remember naked Mideon :lol:
astrangerinthenight
05-03-2005, 05:49 AM
love the avatar chodaboy did ya see backlash
adrian
05-03-2005, 05:50 AM
Yeah, a Smackdown VS. Raw 2 has already been confirmed, Gaslight. If you head over to ign.com, you can find all the info. There isnt a whole lot yet, I dont even think there are any screens because it is awaiting production. Or only just started.. either way, the bottom line is it has been confirmed! Whooooo!
gaslight
05-03-2005, 05:54 AM
Yeah I just read it should be out in the American fall of 2005.
I hope Matt Morgan's finisher is in it.
ChodaBoy
05-03-2005, 08:14 AM
So you can take them to court!
gaslight
05-03-2005, 08:17 AM
Haha, I just wanted to use it for my custom character but it's all good.
Where is Raven these days? TNA? He was awesome.
ChodaBoy
05-03-2005, 10:18 AM
Isnt he the owner of CZW? Or one of those companies
Frankenstrat
05-03-2005, 04:00 PM
i think the main rivalry of TNA is Raven Vs. Jeff Hardy
HBK vs. Shelton Benjamin = Best match on RAW i have seen since in a few years. Usually I predict who is going to win and what is going to happen when it does, however in this match I was 70% sure HBK was going to win but i didnt know if Benjamin would pull the upset. The match itself was great and i would have never predicted it would have ended in the incredible way it did (Benjamin springboarded into Sweet Chin Music so powerful i thought it was real)
ChodaBoy
05-03-2005, 04:40 PM
You could see Michaels say to Benjamin about it being a great match. Which it was.
I was suprised to see HHH get knocked out of the Gold Rush, but there will be a way he gets re-entered, he'll probably attack someone so much they have to forfeit
gaslight
05-03-2005, 04:46 PM
Yeah I'm not sure how Triple H will get re-entered, I hope he doesn't though, and the Hell In A Cell match rumours turn out to be false. It's really dull knowing the main event of a pay per view a whole month in advance.
benbenben
05-03-2005, 04:47 PM
love the avatar chodaboy did ya see backlash
i did! even though u werent talking to me!
was good wasnt it. im glad batista kept the title
simplephotographinthesun
05-03-2005, 05:26 PM
i think the main rivalry of TNA is Raven Vs. Jeff Hardy
their match at lockdown was pretty intense
besides them, i watch TNA for aj styles and christopher daniels
Frankenstrat
05-03-2005, 05:40 PM
You could see Michaels say to Benjamin about it being a great match. Which it was.
I was suprised to see HHH get knocked out of the Gold Rush, but there will be a way he gets re-entered, he'll probably attack someone so much they have to forfeit
That night on RAW they mentioned it was the Rock's Birthday so when they were taking so long with announcing his partner i was playing the Rocks Music in my mind (You smell what the Rock is cookin). Then Benoits music hit and i was like :upset:
ChodaBoy
05-03-2005, 05:42 PM
I was thinking that, for Rock, or Austin. It would have been a shock, and I would have been annoyed since I went to bed just before it
Frankenstrat
05-03-2005, 05:43 PM
I didnt like the Rock back then but now I realize it, WE NEED HIM TO COME BACK
So, JR says that he spoke to The Rock on the phone, and the Rock said, "I can't wait to come back to the WWE and electrify its fans [sic]."
Do you buy or sell this happening? I would like for it to happen, but I don't see it happening.
I was also shocked about the whole Hassan/Daivari escapade. Is Daivari making a face turn? Yeah, riiiiiiiiiight :rolleyes:
HBK/Benjamin was amazing. I'm still shocked about how he ran up that ladder to clothesline Jericho at WM21.
So are Jericho and Benjamin on good terms now? It looks like Jericho is going to turn heel soon. Rumors have it that Jericho's character has gotten really old and needs a change. Buy or sell?
And what's the big match for Smackdown!? I can't even remember. I hope it's not a stale show.
Oh, and who thinks that Heidenreich is starting to write some better poetry? Is he too far gone to make an impact with WWE, or do you think he has a future?
I haven't seen Snitsky in weeks... what happened to him?
ChodaBoy
05-03-2005, 05:49 PM
Ahhh! An essay!
Frankenstrat
05-03-2005, 06:04 PM
ROck coming back - I hope we need someone back from the good old days. The company has really been relying on HHH to be in basically all the main events so far. HHH is getting tired as well as old. The Rock is still young. Batista is a good champion, hes a ****ing beast, but he needs to get a better character. John Cena I really dont buy at all, did anyone see his music video? What rapper in their right mind would do something like that? HBK is doing as much as he can in concerns to main eventers/ upper middle carders such as Angle and Benjamin however he too is getting old agewise. Taker is ready to retire. Austin hasnt been doing anything for the past 3 or 4 years. Angle has a bad neck. Randy Orton is having "shoulder surgery", im not sure if that whole thing was real/fake.
ROCK WE NEED YOU!
ChodaBoy
05-03-2005, 06:11 PM
Austin has knee and neck injuries. Orton's shoulder injury was real, from what Ive heard. HHH is only 35 but we get tired of him because its the same all the time.
Frankenstrat
05-03-2005, 06:12 PM
he needs a good year off
how did orton get his shoulder injury?
Ahhh! An essay!
No it wasn't :(
Seriously, if you just go back, it's not intimidating to read.
gaslight
05-04-2005, 05:06 AM
Orton had long term shoulder problems that required corrective surgery, the longer it was put it off the worse it would be for him.
He didn't actually hurt his shoulder in his match with Taker, or with Batista. That was just the way of bringing his injury into the storyline, so he could take time off for the recovery and set up a possible rivalry with Batista when he returns, through the vignettes they showed of his surgery and him saying that he blames Batista.
big80smullet
05-04-2005, 05:19 AM
do you guy realise that wrestling isnt actually real? They're all acting. Wrestling is just a soap opera with more violence.
gaslight
05-04-2005, 06:39 AM
Suprisingly for MX, there actually hasn't been one person yet who has been retarded enough to think it's real.
ChodaBoy
05-04-2005, 10:51 AM
You mean....it isn't?
Anyway, moving on. Does anyone know what happened on Smackdown? I cant find the results
do you guy realise that wrestling isnt actually real? They're all acting. Wrestling is just a soap opera with more violence.
Cactus Jack vs Big Van Vader from an early WCW (I think) broadcast was all real, every punch was closed fist resulting in Cactus Jack getting a broken nose.
Just thought I'd point out that its not fake.
Anywho...
Raven is the booker for the company known as 3PW, I'm not sure whats happened to them though, something went wrong and last I heard they'd folded.
The WWE does not need stars like The Rock, Stone Cold, Hulk Hogan or anyone like that to come back, they need to stop relying on the old dogs and seriously push some younger wrestlers to the top, if you think about it the current state of the WWE is similar to how it was back in the 80's and early 90's, with the stars of today working their way to the top. Give it another year or two and it'll be similar to how it was in the late 90's, hopefully.
I heard somewhere that this year will be Undertakers final year of wrestling, I'm guessing he'll have a fantastic match at Survivor Series.
Naked Mideon was scarey.
I'll be quiet now.
The Depressed
05-04-2005, 11:04 AM
do you guy realise that wrestling isnt actually real? They're all acting. Wrestling is just a soap opera with more violence.
Tell me, how was Chris Candido able to fake a broken leg in the middle of a match (with his ankle looking like it was literally hanging off) and then fake dying in the middle of surgery trying to fix that leg?
Fake eh? It's rehearsed and scripted to prevent serious injuries (like the unfortunate one leading to Candido's death) but it's not fake.
RIP Chris Candido.
The majority of the time, the only script writing is the characters the wrestlers play, who wins/loses the matches, how the match begins, how the match ends and any big important spots such as Mankind being thrown off the Hell in a Cell.
Everything else is done between the wrestlers, look closely next time you watch something like RAW or Smackdown! and you'll see them talking to each other during the match before certain moves.
This is why if two wrestlers are having a main event match at a PPV, they work together on house shows so they get to know each others wrestling style etc...
ChodaBoy
05-04-2005, 11:20 AM
Its impossible to script every move in a 9 or 10 minute match. Especially when they are always doing promotions and house show events. There just isn't enough time
hardcorehoot
05-04-2005, 11:29 AM
i like eddie guererro
The Depressed
05-04-2005, 11:37 AM
Well certain moves obviously have to be rehearsed on each other before the match, especially if they've never wrestled on a show before. Mainly because they have to be sure that those moves can be performed.
I mean, if you were faced with a match where you lose cleanly to Petey Williams, would you want to make sure you can take the Canadian Destroyer without breaking your neck? I know I would.
And of course sometimes moves can go wrong. Remember Lesnar vs Angle at Wrestlemania where Lesnar missed the Shooting Star Press? Apparently he hadn't practiced that move much, hence why he couldn't get the full rotation and therefore landed on his head. He was literally knocked out for a few minutes after that miss.
Still, the whole point of these arguments is that it's not fake. Rehearsed and thought out, but not faked.
hardcorehoot
05-04-2005, 11:38 AM
how can you fake a move. if you land on your head it hurts no matter what
ChodaBoy
05-04-2005, 03:49 PM
SPOILER site
http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2005/articles/1115176825.php
Shadowcaster XIX
05-04-2005, 03:53 PM
i watched wrestling stoned one time and it made me see exactly how fake and lame it is. it's not even worth thinking about.
gaslight
05-04-2005, 04:53 PM
A few things need to be cleared up:
1) Chris Candido didn't die in the middle of surgery, he died a few days later. The surgery itself was declared a success.
2) Chris Candido's injury was real though.
3) Wrestling is "fake" in the sense that it isn't real fighting. Anyone who thinks it's completely 100% real is a douche, not even the wrestler's say that it's real anymore. WWE coined the term "Sports Entertainment" to describe what they do for a reason.
4) Anyone who thinks they are clever for pointing out that it's fake, it a stupid douche.
5) Main spots are scripted, important endings are scripted. Both are rehearsed . The rest of the filler material is usually improvised, you can hear them talking to eachother sometimes if the volume is up, otherwise they're just used to it and can work together.
6) Don't underestimate what these guys actually do for a living.
7) Yes it is "scripted" and "fake" for the purposes of entertainment. So is every TV Show and movie you have ever watched in your life, Einstein.
ChodaBoy
05-04-2005, 06:09 PM
Applause + Imaginary rep
Frankenstrat
05-04-2005, 06:16 PM
Yeah people dismiss it as fake but they also have to realize that when you get slammed on the matt you still have to be in peak physical condition and BIG in order for you not to break your neck. When you see a WWE wrestler on TV your like "oh yeah there big", but you dont really grasp the concept. Say Batista was to walk down the hallway of your school I have no doubt in my mind you would be left with your jaw dropped. THese guys take shots for a living, if you punched someone like Batista or HHH as hard as you could (granted it wasnt in the nuts) they wouldnt even flinch.
Even the "small guys" like X Pac are still around 6 feet and weigh like 200 lbs
Kickflip_Burrito
05-04-2005, 08:21 PM
Could someone give a brief oversight into who Chris Candido is and what wrestling organisation he was with?
simplephotographinthesun
05-04-2005, 09:15 PM
Could someone give a brief oversight into who Chris Candido is and what wrestling organisation he was with?
he competed in all 3 major organizations (wwe, wcw, ecw)
tag team champion in WWE as part of the bodydonnas (sunny as manager)
part of the triple threat in ECW with shane douglas and bam bam bigelow (this was a stable type thing)
wcw cruiserweight champion
he wrestled for TNA for the past year or so and recently was slated to be the manager of the Naturals (he helped them capture the tag titles from America's Most Wanted)
RIP
Kickflip_Burrito
05-04-2005, 09:21 PM
Ah I think I know who he is now. Wasn't he called Skip or something like that when with the Bodydonnas?
How did he break his leg? And how did he die?
This is kinda shocking to hear, and very sad.
gaslight
05-05-2005, 02:29 AM
He broke his leg during a match, just a bad accident.
He died from a random blood clot, is my understanding.
the_uber_penguin
05-05-2005, 06:08 AM
he competed in all 3 major organizations (wwe, wcw, ecw)
tag team champion in WWE as part of the bodydonnas (sunny as manager)
part of the triple threat in ECW with shane douglas and bam bam bigelow (this was a stable type thing)
wcw cruiserweight champion
he wrestled for TNA for the past year or so and recently was slated to be the manager of the Naturals (he helped them capture the tag titles from America's Most Wanted)
RIP
The WCW Cruiserweight division had some of the best matches ever. I really miss that one.
big80smullet
05-05-2005, 06:52 AM
Al i can say is that even acting can be fatal sometimes. Brandon lee died while filming the crow didnt he (im pretty sure it was the crow) Kevin smith (the kiwi, not the director) died filming a movie in China so you see **** happens. Just because some dude breaks his leg and dies because of complications in the surgery doesnt mean its real.
If you wanna see some real fighting watch KI kickboxing. Its not as spectacular as wrestling, there aint no flashing lights or crack whores who look like men with balloons down their shirts to follow the fighters around, but its brital fighting. they take a kick to the head and then elow the guy in the face in return. none of this rolling around on the floor in pain sh[b][/]it. Those little (and not so little) asian (and not so asian) dudes are hard core and could kill and wrestler in a fight for real. Even mike tyson has said in interviews he'd never take on a Muay Thai Kickboxer because they're so brutal. Ill never forget my first live Muay Thai ring fight. One of the guys was covered in blood because his opponent had kneed him in the face 8 times.
Well ive had my little rant now. o watch your wrestling and hopefully one day you'll see (or partake) in some real ring fighting.
gaslight
05-05-2005, 06:56 AM
Muay Thai is the most lethal thing going.
But yeah, people who watch wrestling don't watch it thinking they're seeing real fighting.
At least I hope they don't anyway.
adrian
05-05-2005, 08:22 AM
Oh man, not this 'wrestling is fake' argument again! You do know that this could very well escalate into the next World War, dont you? So being the peacemaker I am, I have decided to end the arguing............NOW! :thumb:
Anyway, I found this interesting:
Credit: TheSun.co.uk
By SIMON ‘LILSBOY’ ROTHSTEIN
UNDER her stage name of Chyna, Joanie Laurer was the most successful woman in the history of the American wrestling business.
She competed in main event matches against the men and became the only female to ever hold the prestigious WWE intercontinental championship, previously worn by greats like Ultimate Warrior, The Rock and Steve Austin.
Then four years ago Joanie lost everything when she found out her beloved fiancé, and fellow wrestler, Triple H was cheating on her with WWE boss Vince McMahon’s daughter Stephanie.
The star lost her job, her home and her man, saw many wrestling fans turn on her for ’selling out’ and found it hard to get work in Hollywood and elsewhere.
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****, I never knew that HHH was cheating on her when he and Stephanie first got together! Anyone think theres truth to that? Or did you all know that already? I thought the whole HHH/Stephanie relationship started way after he broke up with Joanie..
gaslight
05-05-2005, 08:38 AM
Chyna sucked.
Too many steroids in that girl, where's she hiding the penis.
I remember reading something about Chyna and HHH and cheating but man that's a disgusting mental image to start with.
I'd take Steph over Chyna any day, and not just for the money.
Chyna is a drug addict these days anyway, she needs serious help.
So what does everyone think of this Mysterio/Guerrero soap opera that's unfolding? I really don't see the Mysterio push that WWE was supposed to give him.
gaslight
05-05-2005, 09:38 AM
I'm bored of the entire Angle/Guerrero storyline.
Smackdown feels very stale to me at the moment and lately.
ChodaBoy
05-05-2005, 10:54 AM
Its been basically the same storylines going on for the past 4/5 months now
hardcorehoot
05-05-2005, 10:56 AM
So what does everyone think of this Mysterio/Guerrero soap opera that's unfolding? I really don't see the Mysterio push that WWE was supposed to give him.
It's cool, but i'd rather watch RAW because of the whole Batista and Triple H thing.
blackout
05-05-2005, 11:51 AM
Oh man, not this 'wrestling is fake' argument again! You do know that this could very well escalate into the next World War, dont you? So being the peacemaker I am, I have decided to end the arguing............NOW! :thumb:
Anyway, I found this interesting:
Credit: TheSun.co.uk
By SIMON ‘LILSBOY’ ROTHSTEIN
UNDER her stage name of Chyna, Joanie Laurer was the most successful woman in the history of the American wrestling business.
She competed in main event matches against the men and became the only female to ever hold the prestigious WWE intercontinental championship, previously worn by greats like Ultimate Warrior, The Rock and Steve Austin.
Then four years ago Joanie lost everything when she found out her beloved fiancé, and fellow wrestler, Triple H was cheating on her with WWE boss Vince McMahon’s daughter Stephanie.
The star lost her job, her home and her man, saw many wrestling fans turn on her for ’selling out’ and found it hard to get work in Hollywood and elsewhere.
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****, I never knew that HHH was cheating on her when he and Stephanie first got together! Anyone think theres truth to that? Or did you all know that already? I thought the whole HHH/Stephanie relationship started way after he broke up with Joanie..
Those relationships were actually real? I never knew
adrian
05-05-2005, 05:31 PM
Yep, love in the work place, my friend :upset:
About the Eddie/Rey angle.. Yeah, I am still liking it. I think its taking its time unfolding but theres nothing wrong with that. I dont know how its all going to end up, so thats always good and keeps me watching Smackdown.. Either way, any match/angle involving one of these two I always seem to enjoy.
adrian
05-05-2005, 05:34 PM
Double-post, but whatever..
-Gangrel has been signed to a WWE deal for quite sometime and has been in OVW training for his comeback to television. Gangrel has been suffering from injuries which is probably why we haven’t seen him on television yet.
Credit: PWInsider.com
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Gangrel coming back? Didn't see this one coming..
ChodaBoy
05-05-2005, 05:40 PM
Apart from being with Edge/Christian, wasnt he with Matt and Jeff in 'the New Brood'?
Or was that just another one of my homoerotic dreams?
XxMasterofPuppetsxX
05-05-2005, 05:50 PM
Wasnt Vicesra in there as well ... i liked them they were scary
Junooni
05-05-2005, 05:51 PM
Brood was tight. Gangrel and what was his wife or something's name again? Loony?
ChodaBoy
05-05-2005, 05:55 PM
Luna
XxMasterofPuppetsxX
05-05-2005, 05:55 PM
Yea... and Did u guys see that Sweet Chin Music HBK gave to Benajmin ... Thath **** had to hurt no way thatw as fake in a million years
adrian
05-05-2005, 06:03 PM
Apart from being with Edge/Christian, wasnt he with Matt and Jeff in 'the New Brood'?
Or was that just another one of my homoerotic dreams?
No, you're right.. About Gangrel being in both the original Brood (Edge/Christian) and The New Brood (Jeff/Matt). Both stables rocked, the first because it was so orginal and different.. and the second because it had the Hardyz. And you cant really go wrong there.. But I am wondering what they are going to do with Gangrel once he comes back. Whats his character going to be like this time around?
Also, Viscera was never part of the brood. He was part of the Undertakers "Ministry of Darkness". That included Undertaker, Viscera, Mideon, Gangrel, Edge, Christian. Later got a whole bunch of new guys when the formed the Corporate-Ministry.
EDIT: Also that Sweet Chin Music to Benjamin was teh most crazy thing I've seen recently! One of the best matches of the year, no doubt..
That was one of the best non-PPV matches in recent memory.
And I'm sorry, I feel really pathetic saying this, but I'm diggin' The Hurricane and Rosey being tag champs on RAW :pathetic:
This will probably mean that Hurricane won't come to SD! then because they wouldn't split up the champs for the lottery... and it's not like Rosey would come along because RAW's tag division isn't that great and because SD! has such a large number of tag teams anyway... it's not like they would swap Rosey/Hurricane for MNM, either...
... any idea what would happen here? Is/Are Hurricane/Rosey moving?
EDIT: this is assuming that they don't lose the titles before the lottery.
XxMasterofPuppetsxX
05-05-2005, 06:05 PM
No, you're right.. About Gangrel being in both the original Brood (Edge/Christian) and The New Brood (Jeff/Matt). Both stables rocked, the first because it was so orginal and different.. and the second because it had the Hardyz. And you cant really go wrong there.. But I am wondering what they are going to do with Gangrel once he comes back. Whats his character going to be like this time around?
Also, Viscera was never part of the brood. He was part of the Undertakers "Ministry of Darkness". That included Undertaker, Viscera, Mideon, Gangrel, Edge, Christian. Later got a whole bunch of new guys when the formed the Corporate-Ministry.
ohhh sorry ... they were sweet tho
ChodaBoy
05-05-2005, 06:07 PM
That was a truely great match.
Shelton is one of the best i've seen on that show in recent years, the moves he can pull off are off the scale.
Running up the ladders at WM was so good
XxMasterofPuppetsxX
05-05-2005, 06:07 PM
That was one of the best non-PPV matches in recent memory.
And I'm sorry, I feel really pathetic saying this, but I'm diggin' The Hurricane and Rosey being tag champs on RAW :pathetic:
This will probably mean that Hurricane won't come to SD! then because they wouldn't split up the champs for the lottery... and it's not like Rosey would come along because RAW's tag division isn't that great and because SD! has such a large number of tag teams anyway... it's not like they would swap Rosey/Hurricane for MNM, either...
... any idea what would happen here? Is/Are Hurricane/Rosey moving?
EDIT: this is assuming that they don't lose the titles before the lottery.
Hey i dig him too love hurricane!
adrian
05-05-2005, 06:09 PM
That was one of the best non-PPV matches in recent memory.
And I'm sorry, I feel really pathetic saying this, but I'm diggin' The Hurricane and Rosey being tag champs on RAW :pathetic:
This will probably mean that Hurricane won't come to SD! then because they wouldn't split up the champs for the lottery... and it's not like Rosey would come along because RAW's tag division isn't that great and because SD! has such a large number of tag teams anyway... it's not like they would swap Rosey/Hurricane for MNM, either...
... any idea what would happen here? Is/Are Hurricane/Rosey moving?
EDIT: this is assuming that they don't lose the titles before the lottery.
Hey, I'm diggin Hurricane & Rosey as tag-team champs too! I was cheering when they won the match, simply because they are probably the greatest underdogs in the WWE. Either way, I'm liking it and hopefully they get a long title run.
The draft is arguably one of the most unpredictable parts of a WWE year. It is hard to really know who is going where, so anything could happen.. I dont see Hurricane or Rosey moving over to Smackdown, personally. But as you said, they could lose the titles before then.. Anything could happen.
gtarriff
05-05-2005, 06:11 PM
I just decided to post in this thread for no reason. Ignore.
ChodaBoy
05-05-2005, 06:15 PM
And I'm sorry, I feel really pathetic saying this, but I'm diggin' The Hurricane and Rosey being tag champs on RAW :pathetic:
I agree, the superhero character is very original and the way he pulls it off is hilarious. Im glad to see him put more 'mainstream' now with the tag title.
Also, can you imagine if Shelton didnt pull his tongue back when he got hit with the SCM? Ouch!
Wow, SD! sucked a big one tonight. It was horrrrrrrible :(
RoCKinG STANTON
05-05-2005, 09:23 PM
Ok i want to know some things. does anyone know what happend to Brock lesnor, Goldberg, and Jeff Hardy? I think Brock tried out for football or something but goldberg and Jeff HArdy just one day disapeared. :upset:
Frankenstrat
05-05-2005, 09:50 PM
the only person i truely enjoy on SD is booker t. Rey Mysterio is great but they need to have him soley as a high flying crazy *** move guy. ALso, the street fight tonite was pathetic. I mean the guys did the best they could but it was really toned down from street fights i have seen years ago and thats not their fault its the new WWE policy to kind of censor fights. Its killng me. I need to see someone get powerbombed off the titon tron through 3 tables, ok?
Also, why does Matt Morgan always fight some unnamed dude. Hes not proving anything its soo boring, all he does is go out there and stutter and then do his little finisher which was great the first fifty times but now its just boring.
John Cena's new music video, the title should be : Proof that I am not really from the streets. Has he even seen a rap video in the last ten years?
MNM or whatever there called, the new tag team champs. There pretty good I must admit but i dont like their gimmick too much with the whole gay "were better than you guys", "hollywood" thing. Isnt it possible to just have a normal tag team that everyone hates because they ****ing cheat and are just badasses?
JBL - I liked him better with Farooq and from what ive seen his character is getting boring.
Ok i want to know some things. does anyone know what happend to Brock lesnor, Goldberg, and Jeff Hardy? I think Brock tried out for football or something but goldberg and Jeff HArdy just one day disapeared. :upset:
Yep, you have Lesnar right. He's now in a pending lawsuit with the WWE about his no-compete clause.
Goldberg is wrestling in Japan (I think). But I'm not sure.
Jeff Hardy is wrestling in TNA.
simplephotographinthesun
05-05-2005, 10:25 PM
Chyna sucked.
Too many steroids in that girl, where's she hiding the penis.
I remember reading something about Chyna and HHH and cheating but man that's a disgusting mental image to start with.
I'd take Steph over Chyna any day, and not just for the money.
Chyna is a drug addict these days anyway, she needs serious help.
can i get an amen?
Junooni
05-05-2005, 10:28 PM
Luna
thanks. please tell me thats not Hogan in your avatar.
thanks. please tell me thats not Hogan in your avatar.
It is. I showed him the movie thing, and he made it his avatar by some source of Internet/computer magic.
I mean, come on, have you heard the Hulkamania rap that he recorded? It's the best. I'll bump it for you.
Holy ****, guys, I just landed on a gold mine.
Hulk Hogan's Rap About Being a Hulkamaniac (http://www.themedium.net/xclusive/hulkamaniac.mp3)
CHORUS:
I Want to be a Hulkamaniac
Have fun with my family and friends
I Want to be a Hulkamaniac
Have fun with my family and friends
If you want to be a Hulkamaniac
I can sure tell you how to stay on track
You gotta train, say your prayers, eat your vitamins too
These are all the things that Maniacs do
Positive thoughts and positive deeds
These are the things that'll make you succeed
Always be good to your family and friends
'Cause they're the only one's that'll be there in the end
CHORUS
If you're looking for something cool to do
Just pick good friends to be with you
Always watch out where you are at
You may be judged where you hang your hat
Can you feel the music, can you feel the beat
You don't need drugs to move your feet
When the dealer tries to push on you
Just tell him what you're gonna do
CHORUS
Try to do good each and every day
Don't give up nothin' bad to say
Always go swimming with a buddy
Work real hard and always study
If you want to be real real cool
Don't be so stupid and play the fool
Get your education each and every day
These are all the things that the Maniacs say
CHORUS
simplephotographinthesun
05-05-2005, 10:39 PM
hogan = NWA
cena = skee lo
:lol:
Hogan > Cena
Seriously, UKers/Aussies, if you watch SD!, you're going to go, ":confused:" when you see Cena's "rap video." It was horrrrrrrrrible.
gaslight
05-06-2005, 01:21 AM
The very fact that Cena is recording a CD is horrible.
And Gangrel will most likely be the same character as ever, because he never changes from his "vampire" persona.
Luna Vachon is the girl that is with him, and she's certainly not any fun to look at.
gaslight
05-06-2005, 02:13 AM
I'll have to take that back actually... the video is pretty funny :lol:.
ChodaBoy
05-06-2005, 07:50 AM
I get to see it tonight/tommorrow.
Im expecting a Vanilla Ice/Cena rap contest on VH1 soon. They always come up with crap like that
hardcorehoot
05-06-2005, 08:08 AM
eddie has betrayed me...
gaslight
05-06-2005, 08:36 AM
Matt Morgan's half-nelson pumphandle to facebuster move was pretty awesome.
gaslight
05-06-2005, 08:59 AM
Oh yeah, what do you think Test will be doing when he comes back from injury?
Raw or Smackdown, face or heel, any ideas?
Test is no longer with the WWE.
At least thats what I've heard.
hardcorehoot
05-06-2005, 10:43 AM
Matt Morgan's half-nelson pumphandle to facebuster move was pretty awesome.
I don't like Matt Morgan, they're just trying to make him seem good by pitting him against random unknown wrestlers to make him seem good. I think that they're trying to make people like him so that he can become a well known wrestler and make them more $$.
ChodaBoy
05-06-2005, 10:43 AM
Test is no longer with the WWE.
At least thats what I've heard.
Thats true
The WWE seem to have forgotten that Matt Morgan wrestled with Nathan Jones against the Undertaker about 2 years ago.
ChodaBoy
05-06-2005, 03:16 PM
Haha, I've just read The Blue Meanie is going to work the ECW ppv.
Phreeck
05-06-2005, 03:50 PM
Wrestling is gay.
Frankenstrat
05-06-2005, 04:40 PM
I didnt think cavemen knew how to use computers...
ChodaBoy
05-06-2005, 04:59 PM
Undertaker needs to open his mouth more, and get into a stable. Its how he works best IMO.
Big Show needs to be a real competetor for the WWE Championship.
Carlito should get more involved, its not as if he still needs to rest his arm. He could be a big star one day if pushed in the right direction.
Booker T should beat OJ, while D-von + BBR come back and beat the hell out of the Bashams. So that 'The Cabinet' will be dismantled.
Kidman/London/other CW's need to do some more OTT moves. We know they can push themselves further than they have been going recently
Rico (still contracted??)+ <insert name> should team up against MNM since hes gay and wont be distracted by Melina unlike the others
And of course, the occasional Bikini Contest :rolleyes:
Frankenstrat
05-06-2005, 05:04 PM
lol
If they brought the Dudley Boyz back to fight MNM my god.. id go crazy especially when they do the 3D
Rico was released a few months back and has infact retired from pro wrestling after someone went shoot on him when he was wrestling a match in New Japan.
He's going to become a fire-fighter in New York.
ChodaBoy
05-06-2005, 05:43 PM
Ahh poo.
Just seen Cena's video. Liked the video, but I dont know what to say about him rapping, he barely did it at all in that song
Kickflip_Burrito
05-06-2005, 08:12 PM
Cena is taking this rapping gimmick too far. Smackdown is really lame and out of ideas. Raw is doing much better without all this tomfoolery.
gaslight
05-06-2005, 09:27 PM
Test is no longer with the WWE.
At least thats what I've heard.
Ah crap, I just checked on the internet and he has been released.
That sucks because only a little while ago I read about how hard he had been training after his neck surgery to come back and return to the ring.
WWE really wasted an opportunity with that guy.
gaslight
05-06-2005, 09:30 PM
Undertaker needs to open his mouth more, and get into a stable. Its how he works best IMO.
Big Show needs to be a real competetor for the WWE Championship.
Carlito should get more involved, its not as if he still needs to rest his arm. He could be a big star one day if pushed in the right direction.
Booker T should beat OJ, while D-von + BBR come back and beat the hell out of the Bashams. So that 'The Cabinet' will be dismantled.
Kidman/London/other CW's need to do some more OTT moves. We know they can push themselves further than they have been going recently
Rico (still contracted??)+ <insert name> should team up against MNM since hes gay and wont be distracted by Melina unlike the others
And of course, the occasional Bikini Contest :rolleyes:
Yeah, guys like Undertaker and Big Show are hard to work into a storyline when they are not being major contenders.
Carlito should just be fired, I've never seen him do anything interesting in the ring. Same for Orlando Jordan, he's got nothing to offer.
The Dudley Boyz really should come back, where the hell are they anyway? They'll probably work the ECW ppv?
The cruiserweights really need to be given more airtime, especially now since Psicosis and the others are signed.
WWE really do mismanage a lot of things.
Dannyboy15
05-06-2005, 10:14 PM
WWE currently has WAY too many wrestlers than they should have. They really don't have the airtime to use all of them. They should extend Sunday Night Heat. (That's if they still have it.) I remember WWF use to show spenish wrestling on Univision. If they braught that back that'd be great.
simplephotographinthesun
05-06-2005, 10:19 PM
benjamin + orlando jones = good tag team
ChodaBoy
05-07-2005, 10:26 AM
Well, well, well. It seems that the Rock will appear on Raw as soon as his movie schedule will allow it. Which isnt good news for me since I will have to stay up till 2am to watch it
KRASH
05-07-2005, 10:37 AM
WWE...is really boring now...where is their studio?
Well, well, well. It seems that the Rock will appear on Raw as soon as his movie schedule will allow it. Which isnt good news for me since I will have to stay up till 2am to watch it
I have Sky+ :cool:
But I rarely tape the wrestling these days.
Frankenstrat
05-07-2005, 10:45 AM
Well, well, well. It seems that the Rock will appear on Raw as soon as his movie schedule will allow it. Which isnt good news for me since I will have to stay up till 2am to watch it
2 questions
when will that be
by appear do you mean show up or do you mean hell be in the ring wrestling?
ChodaBoy
05-07-2005, 10:52 AM
Thats not been stated yet. It would probably be unlikely that he would wrestle since it has been 2/3 years since he has had any physical involvement
Frankenstrat
05-07-2005, 10:57 AM
i mean is he going to just be in the back or in the crowd
or
is he going to come down and rockbottom HHH or something like that
gaslight
05-07-2005, 11:01 AM
He'll show up talk on the mic and go back to his mansion.
ChodaBoy
05-07-2005, 11:04 AM
Counting the money hes made from the movies, forgetting the reason why he's famous
Frankenstrat
05-07-2005, 11:07 AM
hes not famous anymore. He was really famous years ago when he did SNL and all of that. The Rock today isnt even as half as big as the Rock then.
gaslight
05-08-2005, 11:04 AM
Can any of you guys find a video of Edge doing the Downward Spiral?
It's something of an impossibility for me so far.
ChodaBoy
05-08-2005, 11:40 AM
http://www.dixiewrestling.com/events/2002-08/4/XXX-CoolCat-DownwardSpiral.mpg
I found this, I cant see what its like though, my pc is screwing up
http://www.dixiewrestling.com/events/2002-08/4/XXX-CoolCat-DownwardSpiral.mpg
I found this, I cant see what its like though, my pc is screwing up
Two backyard amatuer wrestlers.
blackout
05-08-2005, 12:40 PM
Anybody got any links to videos of some good matches?
I don't see The Rock wrestling anytime soon. I would disagree with ChodaBoy, though, when he said that The Rock hasn't had any "physical involvement." I'm sure he still works out and such on the set of his movies and in his spare time :)
I'd also imagine that, with a business like the WWE, it wouldn't be hard for him to get "back into the swing of things." Kind of like riding a bike or tying a shoe, I suppose.
simplephotographinthesun
05-08-2005, 09:34 PM
Can any of you guys find a video of Edge doing the Downward Spiral?
It's something of an impossibility for me so far.
i don't know if you've ever seen chris kanyon/mortis do the flatliner...
gaslight
05-09-2005, 01:17 AM
I know it's the same move, but I've only rarely ever seen either of them do it.
adrian
05-09-2005, 05:18 AM
I don't see The Rock wrestling anytime soon. I would disagree with ChodaBoy, though, when he said that The Rock hasn't had any "physical involvement." I'm sure he still works out and such on the set of his movies and in his spare time :)
I'd also imagine that, with a business like the WWE, it wouldn't be hard for him to get "back into the swing of things." Kind of like riding a bike or tying a shoe, I suppose.
I completely agree with this. I think a return of The Rock's character sometime in the future is definately on the cards. Hey, this is the wrestling business "never say never".. Who saw the nWo coming into the WWE? Who saw Bischoff becoming the General Manager of RAW?
Never say never..
The Rock's life has always been around the wrestling business, since he was born. Third generation superstar, its in his blood.. He will be back one day.
gaslight
05-09-2005, 05:31 AM
The Rock will come back if his movies start failing.
mxgibsonsg
05-09-2005, 05:34 AM
were are these wrestlers nowadays:
shamrock
x pac
mr bossman
al snow
bad *** billy gun and his partner sh1t i forgot his name the DOGG fuk i forget it
stone cold, i know he was at wrestlemania but whats wrong with him
shane mcmahan
scotty to hottie and his partner
rikishi
anyone else got anymore they can think of, but were are these folks just up and left.
gaslight
05-09-2005, 05:39 AM
Shamrock : UFC
X Pac : I don't think he's employed by any wrestling company.
Big Bossman : No idea about him either.
Al Snow : Works with training new guys in OVW and Tough Enough.
Billy Gunn and Road Dogg : I think Billy Gunn is still with the WWE, Road Dogg is with TNA.
Stone Cold : Had legal, personal and alcohol problems. Is doing movies at the moment.
Shane McMahon : Still with WWE in management and administrative capacity.
Scotty : Still wrestles with WWE.
Grandmaster Sexay : Not sure, I think he was let go.
Rikishi : Not sure either.
evan6the9punk
05-09-2005, 05:41 AM
roar i am a new wrestler
wimp man
ChodaBoy
05-09-2005, 06:25 AM
X Pac : I don't think he's employed by any wrestling company.He's employed by TNA isnt he? Under the name Syxx-Pac
Big Bossman : No idea about him either.
He died last year
Billy Gunn and Road Dogg : I think Billy Gunn is still with the WWE, Road Dogg is with TNA.
Billy Gunn is also working for TNA, I believe his name is The New Age Outlaw :rolleyes: I wonder where that name came from
Ye x-pac is now employed at TNA but he is now known as his real name (Shawn Sumit?)
And yes billy gunn is in TNA (The Outlaw), i only kno about TNA really, its the only wrestling show i watch all the time lol. It has a nice load of gd wrestlers to be honest. Talented stars :P
gaslight
05-09-2005, 06:37 AM
Sean Waltman I think is X-Pac's real name.
ChodaBoy
05-09-2005, 06:47 AM
Thats true.
Nice to hear about Matt Hardy wrestling again. Same for Test, who I didnt actually like too much but he wasnt a bad wrestler
gaslight
05-09-2005, 06:49 AM
Test has a lot of physical potential. Matt Hardy deserves as much success as he can get.
ChodaBoy
05-09-2005, 07:00 AM
I respect him more now since he got treated so unfairly and is still carrying on with his life, even though his life has been turned upside down.
But I always did like both of them, obviously wrestling isnt real, but some of the things they did must have hurt and would take alot of courage to do
evan6the9punk
05-09-2005, 07:25 AM
Roar
I Am Wimp Man
/flexes Wimpy Muscles
I read that Rikishi was wrestling in Mexico or something, but I am also unsure.
And yes, Bossman died last year.
Anyone remember Hacksaw Jim Duggan?
"HOOOOO !"
Um, anyways. RAW tonight. Are we still agreeing that HHH is going to beat the crap out of someone so they get pulled from the gold rush tournament and he takes their place? If so, who would it be? Kane, Benoit, HBK, and Edge are left.
shabutie
05-09-2005, 09:40 AM
Anti-Hero! How are you my fine feathered friend.
Anti-Hero! How are you my fine feathered friend.
Greetings and salutations !
I am doing fine, thanks. And yourself?
ChodaBoy
05-09-2005, 10:24 AM
Um, anyways. RAW tonight. Are we still agreeing that HHH is going to beat the crap out of someone so they get pulled from the gold rush tournament and he takes their place? If so, who would it be? Kane, Benoit, HBK, and Edge are left.
I think Kane, HHH doesnt have too much against any of them except Benoit, but if he attacks Benoit, Batista will come out. Kane also because I dont think we or WWE see him as championship material
I'd say either Benoit or Michaels. It's predictable to me.
Then Edge will probably use the "Money in The Banks" contract to enforce a match and it will be a three-way match for the championship.
Maybe.
I dont kno wat u lot are on about with this tournament thing, i do wanna get bk into wrestling, but wwe well boring now has been for past 2years or sumit. You shud start watching TNA it rules big time :) just my opinion anyway. They may not have as much money 2 spend on events or as many people. But i reckon they got better wrestlers. They pick up all the ppl whos contracts run out, all the rejects, its the largest growing wrestling promotions. Except wwe of couirse :)
ChodaBoy
05-09-2005, 10:53 AM
They're rejected for a reason :thumb:
Also, it "used" to be good, but its now in debt since it hasnt kept interest for very long.
Where are you from?
Hello, and welcome.
I just don't bother with TNA because a) I don't know when it's on and b) I'm just used to WWF/WWE after all these years. While I do recognize that there is competition and other independent circuits that boost wrestlers to the WWE, it seems that the McMahons have quite the monopoly on sports entertainment.
ChadoBoy im from near bristol like :P if u was asking me, plus I kno wat u mean I couldnt drag myself away from wwe, i went on holiday for a month i missed so much i couldnt bring myself 2 watching it again :P cus i wasnt used 2 missing it often, now i just watch tna, far better matches and less predictable storylines :)
Frankenstrat
05-09-2005, 03:08 PM
how did bossman die?
TNA is good, i am not really a fan of the hexagon ring but some of the matches they have are pretty good. ITs pretty much a haven for washed up wrestlers though they do have some young stars.
ChodaBoy
05-09-2005, 03:19 PM
ChodaBoy im from near bristol
Im from Manchester
how did bossman die?
He had a 'massive heart attack'
WHASSUPWITHTHAT! (http://shanehelms.homestead.com/shaneconway.jpg)
STAND BACK! THERE'S A HURRICANE COMING THROUGH!
This random moment brought to you by Antihero. Cheers.
ChodaBoy
05-09-2005, 03:57 PM
And a nice little gif file from me
http://wrestlinguniverse.htmlplanet.com/images/gif_shane3.gif
^
|
| this is why we need Shane O Mac back
"Money, money, money, money...Here comes the money..."
gaslight
05-09-2005, 04:47 PM
Is TNA ever on Foxtel? I know it used to be but I haven't seen it in ages. They have some good matches but it's usually quite obvious that they have a limited budget at their disposal.
Frankenstrat
05-09-2005, 06:44 PM
thats why they need to get on SPIKE, no body watches wrestling on channel 72 at 12 oclock on friday night, excpet maybe Choda Boy
ChodaBoy
05-09-2005, 06:55 PM
*coughs* 2-4am!
Frankenstrat
05-09-2005, 06:56 PM
my apologies
:lol:
ChodaBoy
05-09-2005, 07:00 PM
(re-read your post)
2-4am on a monday night, with college the following day!
simplephotographinthesun
05-09-2005, 07:08 PM
Anyone remember Hacksaw Jim Duggan?
"HOOOOO !"
his taped-fist angle in WCW was great
adrian
05-09-2005, 07:56 PM
And a nice little gif file from me
http://wrestlinguniverse.htmlplanet.com/images/gif_shane3.gif
^
|
| this is why we need Shane O Mac back
"Money, money, money, money...Here comes the money..."
Agreed :thumb:
I still cant believe Vinne Mac let his son do some of that crazy **** he did..
Kickflip_Burrito
05-09-2005, 07:59 PM
Shane rocked! Some of WWE's greatest moments game from him and I agree with Mick Foley that Shane is a very good wrestler.
That .gif is awesome, I keep watching it over and over. ChodaBoy, any chance of a .gif file of him at Summerslam with Steve Blackman?
gaslight
05-10-2005, 03:55 AM
Shane did some great stuff yeah.
mxgibsonsg
05-10-2005, 04:48 AM
i live in aus an occasionaly catch wwe reruns on telly, why r jr and the king not at ringside anymore, that was the bomb. BRNG BACK THE HARDCORE CHAMPIONSHIP, that was awsome, i saw a rerun of a "smackdown" program where mysterio got slammed on his spine on some stairs, i was shocked, thats got to fuking hurt no matter how professional they are, but yer bring bak da hardcore whyd they get rid of it.
ChodaBoy
05-10-2005, 10:47 AM
That would be true if this was 2003
ChodaBoy, any chance of a .gif file of him at Summerslam with Steve Blackman?
I'll have a look, but theres no promises!
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 11:30 AM
Thanks dude :thumb:
And in response to mxgibsonsg, the Hardcore Title got banned because of the amount of complaints the WWE were getting as there were claims it was a bad influence on kids watching.
Frankenstrat
05-10-2005, 02:49 PM
yeah right theres no way that was a bad influence
*power bombs random person through table*
but seriously what a stupid thing to do. Theres soo much **** in the world that can be a bad influence on kids thats why there is PARENTS. If your a good parent youd either explain to your kids that its just fake as hell and that doing it can actually kill someone or dont let your kid watch it. Just because you think that its inappropriate for your kids doesnt mean that everyone else should suffer.
**** bitches
ChadoBoy im from near bristol like :P if u was asking me, plus I kno wat u mean I couldnt drag myself away from wwe, i went on holiday for a month i missed so much i couldnt bring myself 2 watching it again :P cus i wasnt used 2 missing it often, now i just watch tna, far better matches and less predictable storylines :)
Chew Valley Area?
Please?
And a nice little gif file from me
http://wrestlinguniverse.htmlplanet.com/images/gif_shane3.gif
^
|
| this is why we need Shane O Mac back
"Money, money, money, money...Here comes the money..."
I remember that match, it was insane.
Some stuff from mind of Brum about various wrestlers:
Billy Gunn is in TNA as The Outlaw, he's going to be in a feud with Road Dogg, known these days as B.G.James (I think).
X-Pac is apparently owed $10,000 by TNA, he's quit until they pay him, and is in talks with HHH about coming back to WWE.
Scotty 2 Hotty is on Smackdown!, I saw him teamed with Shannon Moore last week.
Grandmaster Sexay is in NWA Wildside, a crappy little company that isn't going to really go anywhere, I believe that its now folded.
The last TNA PPV had 775 fans in attendance. The company lost $20million last year, I think. Something like that anyway.
Apparently there are going to be some more ECW shows soon by Shane Douglas, if the WWE one goes well (they're expected to gross $6million from it) they may be bringing ECW back, or possibly the Hardcore Title.
Thats my essay for the week done :wave:
Frankenstrat
05-10-2005, 03:32 PM
WWE should bring back ECW. They should own it but still let it have its name and hardcore matches. Kind of like how Coca Cola owns Sprite. If ECW came back on I guarantee people would watch it, especially with the lack of violence in the WWE. And if those little bitches start arguing that its a bad influence on children it could be used as a counter argument- ECW is hardcore for adults and WWE is toned down for kids.
ChodaBoy
05-10-2005, 03:37 PM
Im incredibly suprised Vince hasnt already chose to show it every so often since tickets at the minute are selling for around $400, obviously the price would go down if it occured more, but it definately shows demand.
We've been deprived of hardcore action for too long now, 3PW and CZW have toned down alot of their action which is a shame
Anyone remember how badly the Invasion angle turned out?
WWE would probably make a poor job of ECW again, unless they gave complete control of it to Paul Heyman and Tommy Dreamer, not letting Stephanie McMahon do anything to it. She's already ruined Smackdown!
I downloaded some classic CZW the other night, its really hardcore.
One match started out with 200 lightbulbs surrounding the ring, by the end of it every single on was smashed. Blood everywhere.
I also saw their Pyramid of Hell trick, where a pyramid of flaming tables are set up, with one dude on the top of them. Then you see some stuff fall off the ceiling, the camera looks up...a slight pause...then a dude falls through the hole in the ceiling, landing on the tables.
I was impressed.
ChodaBoy
05-10-2005, 03:42 PM
Where do you get that from? If its from WinMX im screwed
Limewire.
Give me a few mins and I'll YSI it and post the link here.
CZW - Pyramid of Hell (http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WGNDOQOKWY0D0J0W6HW81KU4N)
ChodaBoy
05-10-2005, 03:44 PM
Thanks
yesfloydmetallica
05-10-2005, 04:22 PM
norman smiley was awesome
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 04:23 PM
If the ECW show is a hit, will the hardcore title be brought back? Or is that a little bit too ambitious?
We've been starved of good hardcore action for too long!!!
Its a possibility.
I doubt it will happen though, seeing as the WWE is going through a more ''mat based'' style of wrestling at the moment.
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 04:40 PM
Thats true actually, a lot of the matches stay in the ring, not even going outside.
Woe is me.
We can always hope.
Frankenstrat
05-10-2005, 04:47 PM
yeah the most hardcore itll get is that sad excuse for a streetfight on smackdown last week...
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 04:50 PM
I didnt see that, what happened?
gaslight
05-10-2005, 04:51 PM
The Hardcore title had to be toned down/removed because of broadcasting standards being tightened.
That's my understanding.
The suplex onto the steel steps was impressive from that Streetfight, its all I saw of the match.
gaslight
05-10-2005, 05:00 PM
That did look painful yeah, Eddie's shoulder looked to land on one of the corners.
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 05:01 PM
Who was in the streetfight? Eddie and.....
gaslight
05-10-2005, 05:03 PM
Chavo and Rey. Eddie showed up after.
Frankenstrat
05-10-2005, 05:04 PM
Rey Mysterio
Watch a street fight from a few years back and youll be like "oh wow a suplex on the stairs so what"
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 05:06 PM
Does anybody recall the street-fight between Cactus Jack and Triple H at the Royal Rumble 2000? Now THAT was a street-fight!
Sabu vs Terry Funk in a Barbed Wire match was one of the most painful matches I've ever seen, at the end of it they had to use wire-cutters to seperate them.
ChodaBoy
05-10-2005, 05:55 PM
Foley has always been in some good HC matches, he's a legend.
Is my nominee for the next HOF
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 05:58 PM
Definately, but he's still on the roster as a WWE Superstar isn't he?
ChodaBoy
05-10-2005, 06:00 PM
I think he's one of those 'show up if you want to'
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 06:07 PM
Haha, that makes sense. It would be good to see Foley get a few more good matches in. I hear his streetfight against Orton last year was good. I didn't see it though :(
Dannyboy15
05-10-2005, 06:10 PM
Anyone have a video of the hell in the cell Undertaker vs. Mankind?
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 06:12 PM
Should be able to download from a peer-to-peer program. If not, its on King of the Ring '98, I think you can buy it from amazon.com.
Dannyboy15
05-10-2005, 06:19 PM
Found it on limewire. Thanks
It's the best bout I've ever seen
ChodaBoy
05-10-2005, 06:19 PM
When I win the lottery :rolleyes: Im going to buy you all a nice wrestling t-shirt because im nice.
***Spolier***
Lita will most likely turn heel at next weeks Raw. I heard about this a few weeks ago but was never sure if there was any truth in it. She will turn against Kane to help Edge win, WWE want to take advantage of this Hardy/Lita/Edge scenario
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 06:22 PM
Thanks for the t-shirt, can mine be a Hulkamania one please?
LarsAgi007
05-10-2005, 06:31 PM
I would like a double bass Tama Starclassic Maple kit please :D
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 06:36 PM
He said wrestling t-shirt :rolleyes:
ChodaBoy
05-10-2005, 06:44 PM
Some people are just so ungrateful!
I would like a double bass Tama Starclassic Maple kit please :D
Go back to R&M or just never post here again. We're tired of random idiots popping in here. Thanks.
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Okay, wow. Lita and Edge being written together in the storyline? Matt Hardy and his fans are going to be pissed. Seriously.
I guess this just shows you how WWE will capitalize on anything to make some dinero.
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 08:10 PM
When will be the next re-drafting? Smackdown is in desperate need of good superstars.
When will be the next re-drafting? Smackdown is in desperate need of good superstars.
It's going to be the Monday after Judgment Day. There were talks about it being a two-day event, where half of the draft takes place on RAW and the other half takes place on Smackdown!, but I do not know if this is still going to happen.
ChodaBoy
05-10-2005, 08:13 PM
TBH, I dont think the locker room is the problem. They have the talent to make a good show, alot of CW's. But its those backstage (i.e Steph) who are managing the show wrong, and it just doesnt hold much interest anymore
Kickflip_Burrito
05-10-2005, 08:18 PM
Deary me, the WWE has changed so much now :(
So, I decided to change my avatar and usertitle. Can someone come up with a more creative usertitle, by chance?
I was saddened to change it from my staple labrador avatar, but I'll survive.
If someone (Choda, gaslight, etc.) could come up with a decent usertitle, I'd greatly appreciate it.
simplephotographinthesun
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
norman smiley was awesome
the big wiggle, he was an awesome hardcore champ :lol:
Frankenstrat
05-10-2005, 09:58 PM
When do you think Edge will use his money in the bank contract?
simplephotographinthesun
05-10-2005, 10:06 PM
i wanna say summerslam :lol:
Meh, I think it's just stupid that Edge is going to win two opportunities for the world title. He needs to actually wrestle instead of being a gigantic pussy and using his stupidass briefcase in order to win victories. But, whatever. I'll still watch.
I agree with simple...sun, it has to be one of the joint-show PPVs... so why not Summerslam?
Dannyboy15
05-11-2005, 12:14 AM
There are too many interferences and cheap wins. It's becoming VERY predictable now. HBK should have had it.
MaidenPumpkin
05-11-2005, 01:42 AM
Man, I've been missing Smackdown! and Raw way too much lately, luckily I believe I have them recorded on my TiVo esque thing that I have. I really need to catch up on this stuff, not to mention I also missed Backlash.
adrian
05-11-2005, 02:58 AM
Yeah, HBK should have definately won that match. I am so sick of seeing Edge get propelled forward, its just not fun to watch. He's not over, he's just not that good. Its all fine when the heel is someone you hate, but want to see win.. But I just don't want to see Edge at all.. :lol:
Still.. I think this Lita turning on Kane, and siding with Edge thing could be very interesting. Controversial much?
Side note: Did anyone else notice on Smackdown a couple weeks ago, Matt Morgan was going up against a guy called Mikey Whiplash? And when Michael Cole first said the guys name, Tazz was like "Ummm, did you say Mikey.. Whip.. what was his name?"
I was like.. "ECW! ECW!".. It wasn't him though.. It wasn't Mikey Whipreck, right? Just a cheap rip-off?
gaslight
05-11-2005, 03:14 AM
Edge is doing a good job of his character, he just needs some better moves than his stupid briefcase.
Edge was great back in the day when his character never talked and it was all in-ring stuff.
adrian
05-11-2005, 03:34 AM
**Spoiler for this weeks Velocity**
Actually, no it isnt.. I read from pwinsider.com that a dark match at yesterdays Velocity taping had CM Punk defeating The Amazing Red?! :amaze: Have these two signed with the WWE?
Whats teh story?
ChodaBoy
05-11-2005, 12:54 PM
If someone (Choda, gaslight, etc.) could come up with a decent usertitle, I'd greatly appreciate it.
I'll have a think. Its a shame to see the doggy gone though :upset:
When do you think Edge will use his money in the bank contract?
It wouldnt suprise me if he won this Gold Rush tournament, then when he challenges for the title, he loses, but then on the same night, asks for his second match because the opponent will be worn out.
He needs to actually wrestle instead of being a gigantic ***** and using his stupidass briefcase in order to win victories.
Or a brick (elbow)
I was like.. "ECW! ECW!".. It wasn't him though.. It wasn't Mikey Whipreck, right? Just a cheap rip-off?
Was he the guy who dressed a little pirate-like? Not the full outfit, but had a bandana type headgear
Still.. I think this Lita turning on Kane, and siding with Edge thing could be very interesting. Controversial much?
I think its a pretty good idea for them, it will piss everyone off so they get more publicity. And hopefully Kane will come back and beat him up so we wont see him for 6 months!
Edge was great back in the day when his character never talked and it was all in-ring stuff.Agreed, back in the day with his Rob Zombie music theme. He had some good moves but now its just :rolleyes:
blackout
05-11-2005, 03:00 PM
Sabu vs Terry Funk in a Barbed Wire match was one of the most painful matches I've ever seen, at the end of it they had to use wire-cutters to seperate them.
Sounds good, when was that?
I bearly ever saw terry wrestle, i didn't get to watch ECW when it was on, didnt have the channel.
Frankenstrat
05-11-2005, 04:19 PM
To be in ECW you have to either be on drugs, out of your mind, or be a recovering alchoholic.
Those guys were crazy and that resulted in the best matches ever.
Sounds good, when was that?
I bearly ever saw terry wrestle, i didn't get to watch ECW when it was on, didnt have the channel.
I think it was sometime between 1996 and 1998.
At one point Sabu had Funk on a table.
So what does he do?
He wraps himself in barbed wire, and sends Funk through the table.
Kickflip_Burrito
05-11-2005, 04:38 PM
What Shane McMahon up to these days? I know he's a father but isn't he working at all on the WWE front or is it all just Stephanie and HHH?
I'm assuming Vince still has a huge level of control but just out with his knee injury right?
Vince has made a complete recovery.
Shane O'Mac is currently running the WWE website and magazine stuff, along with some other behind the scenes stuff.
Kickflip_Burrito
05-11-2005, 04:43 PM
I see. I hope he comes back to the ring for a match or two. Shane O'Mac ruled.
jcxstargazer
05-11-2005, 04:48 PM
I agree. He was insane, which is what we like.
But I doubt he will do it anymore, he's aged quite a bit, plus he wont want to endanger his life like he used to now that he's married and has a son
1. I'll have a think.
2. Its a shame to see the doggy gone though :upset:
3. It wouldnt suprise me if he won this Gold Rush tournament, then when he challenges for the title, he loses, but then on the same night, asks for his second match because the opponent will be worn out.
4. Or a brick (elbow)
5. I think its a pretty good idea for them, it will piss everyone off so they get more publicity. And hopefully Kane will come back and beat him up so we wont see him for 6 months!
6. He had some good moves but now its just :rolleyes:
/edits quote accordingly
1. Thank you very much, I appreciate it. I wish I could get the whole thing to fit in one line, but alas, I cannot.
2. The dog will likely re-emerge soon, a lot of people have been complaining that they don't recognize me by my avatar anymore.
3. If the spoilers are true, then yeah, that really blows.
4. Benoit loves the company, he lives, breathes, and will die by this company. However, I'm sure he was pissed about how that match was written, but didn't say anything as to not endanger his already-solid position with the company.
5. The first sentence is true... but if the second one ever happened, that would be fantastic.
6. I agree with this. His spear isn't as convincing as, say, Goldberg's or Rhyno's... and his overall finisher (The Briefcase Blast) is just retarded.
simplephotographinthesun
05-11-2005, 10:58 PM
i think edge would be more successful if he established his edgecator (terrible ****ing name) submission move
Has anyone come up with a good usertitle for me yet? :(
It's hard to encompass The Hurricane in 25 characters or less, and I don't want to use a hack.
gaslight
05-12-2005, 10:56 AM
Whatsupwidthat!?
jcxstargazer
05-12-2005, 10:58 AM
1. Thank you very much, I appreciate it. I wish I could get the whole thing to fit in one line, but alas, I cannot.
The only things I could think of were Stand Back, which I noticed you already had, and WASUPWIDAT. Sorry about that, he doesnt have many short catchphrases
The Briefcase Blast
:lol: instant classic
blackout
05-12-2005, 11:33 AM
6. I agree with this. His spear isn't as convincing as, say, Goldberg's or Rhyno's... and his overall finisher (The Briefcase Blast) is just retarded.
Rhyno! He was cool, what happened to him?
He destroyed a Vase at a hotel sometime around Wrestlemania and the WWE released him.
He's still under the 90 Day No Compete thingy, and should be working the ECW PPV.
bassisbest
05-12-2005, 01:29 PM
The WWE is completely **** now. its all run on politics. HHH is a cunt. Rhyno was a great wrestler and should of picked up where he left of after the ECW. They release Molly Holly too. The only woman that could wrestle good. Now we have to put up with these diva searches.
Might sound like a rant, but it just seems the WWE has been going down heel since the invasion angle. I mean, look it now. Batista and John Cena champs? Whats up with that?! They have barely been in the company for 4 years yet they are champs. Its people like Edge, Kane, Beniot, Angle, Christain, the guys who have worked themselves up, they should be the champs.
blackout
05-12-2005, 01:32 PM
He destroyed a Vase at a hotel sometime around Wrestlemania and the WWE released him.
He's still under the 90 Day No Compete thingy, and should be working the ECW PPV.
:lol: Thats a joke, right? He got released for breaking a vase?!
:lol: Thats a joke, right? He got released for breaking a vase?!
Well, since he represented the company at the time, it made the company look bad.
Basically, him and his wife are getting separated, and she's threatened to take his only daughter with her to Europe, so he was under duress as it was. An argument between the two escalated, and instead of Gore-ing his wife, he took it out on a vase. Since it made the company look bad (in their eyes, anyway), he was released.
Whatsupwidthat!?
The only things I could think of were Stand Back, which I noticed you already had, and WASUPWIDAT. Sorry about that, he doesnt have many short catchphrases
I can't believe I forgot that staple one. I'll be changing it :cool:
Thanks, guys.
Molly Holly asked to be released, she wants to look after her sick niece for a year (I think).
She should be back next year.
Luther Reigns was released yesterday, for an unknown reason.
insertusernamehere
05-12-2005, 01:42 PM
i cant believe this thread is still going.
jcxstargazer
05-12-2005, 01:48 PM
Molly Holly asked to be released, she wants to look after her sick niece for a year (I think).
I didnt know that. I heard that she asked to be released but only told Vince why she wanted to go.
But I trust Brum
Why'd did you change your name?
I got confused and only figured out who you were via the avatar, so don't change it anytime soon.
jcxstargazer
05-12-2005, 01:54 PM
This is my old account. It got banned for some reason a long time ago. And after a while I got tired of waiting assuming it was a perm ban, then I found out I could use it again.
jcxstargazer
05-12-2005, 01:56 PM
DBJ seems to have ignored my request, and dont get me started on MX!
You just have to ask when DBJ is on... but I know how it goes. I asked for a name change, just a minor one, and I never got a reply. Of course, the general rule is if he's online, he'll see it, but if he doesn't give you an answer, then it's inherently a "no."
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