View Full Version : The War Council Of Power Metal Arcana
Lord Abortion
04-25-2005, 03:46 AM
they are my third favourite all-time band (after iron maiden and cradle of filth)
such a superb band - every song has you playing air guitar- the onlyproblem with alive in athens is the lack of "the reaping stone" which is one of my favourite songs of SWTWC- and my band will be playing burning times soon!
Arucard
04-25-2005, 04:51 AM
I got Angra - Rebirth, and its probably the best PM album ive heard. The vocal melodies rule, and the drumming is very technical compared to alot of PM bands. I find there is alot more variety in their music compared to DragonForce, and an FA thing will be up soon.
Skeksis
04-25-2005, 07:42 AM
STRATO IS BACK PEOPLE!!!
Any Stratovarius fans here? What do you think of them getting back? What are your expectations on their upcoming album?
shadow_stalker
04-25-2005, 08:03 AM
:thumb: they are my third favourite all-time band (after iron maiden and cradle of filth)
such a superb band - every song has you playing air guitar- the onlyproblem with alive in athens is the lack of "the reaping stone" which is one of my favourite songs of SWTWC- and my band will be playing burning times soon!
Here ollie, im trying to listen to that bit iced earth album you gave me, Its pretty **** good so far.
:thumb:
Lord Abortion
04-25-2005, 08:06 AM
except for the fact that when you are on mx the siren on the school computers goes off every time you change webpage and ruins your musical experience
Iced earth rule...
shadow_stalker
04-25-2005, 08:14 AM
Yeah that is bloody annoying.
Especially when you have it turned up full blast in our ears and they go off.
I love the guitar riff in pure evil.
I'll bring in them dragonfroce cds and see if i can ge hold of some sonata arctica for you for tomorrow.
shadow_stalker
04-25-2005, 08:15 AM
Any of you guys heard of lost horizon?
They are great, but the cd i orderd off amazon wontget to me for like 3 weeks!
Lord Abortion
04-25-2005, 08:21 AM
I love the guitar riff in pure evil.
I'll bring in them dragonfroce cds and see if i can ge hold of some sonata arctica for you for tomorrow.
pure! EVIL
pure! EVIL
pure! EVIL
this is pure evil...
shadow_stalker
04-25-2005, 08:22 AM
You would never have guessed that was what song they were gonna play.
i am the robots
04-25-2005, 09:08 AM
except for the fact that when you are on mx the siren on the school computers goes off every time you change webpage and ruins your musical experience
Iced earth rule...
Yes, Iced Earth is truly amazing, Night Of The Stormrider is a brilliant album, unfortunately it's the only one of theirs that I have :(
Lord Abortion
04-25-2005, 09:11 AM
Yes, Iced Earth is truly amazing, Night Of The Stormrider is a brilliant album, unfortunately it's the only one of theirs that I have :(
i suggest alive in athens
something wicked this way comes is brilliant but the best songs on it (bar the reaping stone) are on alive in athens
try- a question of heaven for an amazing song
x_Evilized_x
04-25-2005, 03:28 PM
Iced Earth rock! I only discovered them a few months ago browsing files on Soulseek, saw them, and thought I'd give them a try. Glad I did!
RiceMonster
04-25-2005, 03:33 PM
I've never gotten to far into Iced Earth. I'm not really sure why...
does anyone know if Dragonforce will be doing a proper UK tour after their summer european dates with Iron Maiden?
Stoic
04-25-2005, 03:54 PM
I've never gotten to far into Iced Earth. I'm not really sure why...
same here...
RiceMonster
04-25-2005, 03:58 PM
does anyone know if Dragonforce will be doing a proper UK tour after their summer european dates with Iron Maiden?
I didn't know they were touring with Iron Maiden. I thought it was a "proper tour". This is news to me.
I still wish they could tour North America, as they're the band I want to see most.
they're doing mainland Europe but not the UK with them :( i would love them to support maiden at Leeds! www.dragonforce.com if you check the tour dates it says who they are guests of.
Stoic
04-25-2005, 04:23 PM
supporting maiden certainly is a big step for their career. They're coming here (Greece) too with maiden and they supported angra a while ago if I'm not mistaken. They're not particularly popular here though.
ah well. i think they're supporting angra a bit this summer as well.
Arucard
04-25-2005, 04:29 PM
Angra rule. They are my faverouite PM band at the minute.
Also, have you guys heard the new A7X song? It has some obvious PM influences.
Stoic
04-25-2005, 04:38 PM
I fell in love with their latest album (most of it at least), particularly with the solo parts and the production...
Who's A7X?
avenged sevenfold...i don't think i've ever listened to them.
Hitroshimite
04-25-2005, 04:41 PM
Who's A7X?
Avenged Sevenfold.
Anywho, what does everyone think of Kamelot's 'The Black Halo' album? I think it's a solid record, though it takes a little getting into.
EDIT: Whoa, I really like that new Avenged Sevenfold 'The Beast and the Harlot'. I never really dug the stuff they did before but holy ****, this is good!
Stoic
04-25-2005, 05:16 PM
Was Peter Pan in Mordor?...
no one's there to keep alive
no one's there to keep alive
all these fairy tales...
It's been ages since I last listened to IFTOS!
Hitroshimite
04-25-2005, 05:18 PM
Was Peter Pan in Mordor?...
no one's there to keep alive
no one's there to keep alive
all these fairy tales...
It's been ages since I last listened to IFTOS!
Yes. That whole album is a good chunk of metal.
I like how Hansi screams 'YEAHH!!' in the background at random points during that song.
Stoic
04-25-2005, 05:30 PM
indeed :). He's awesome, I love him. I'll give the song a couple of listens before sleeping. Too much NIME lately (thorn 3 times in a row before sleeping) :p...
Btw, I read a bad review about NIME the other day
http://www.metalcovenant.com/pages/index.htm...
Goodnight!
Hitroshimite
04-25-2005, 07:39 PM
Yes, I don't agree with that review. I find it funny that their problem with NIME was that they thought it had too much going on, and then they heap the praise on ANATO while ANATO was a lot more dense and layered.
Meh. They're both great albums.
Stoic
04-26-2005, 04:21 PM
I cant understand why I still havent found someone in here to share my passion for Slough Feg. Ι see that most of you are mostly fond of euro power metal (especially of the less aggressive-more melodic side of it) but the mighty Slough Feg are nothing like this.
I'm not sure whether you're familiar with them or not but I uploaded a track YOU OUGHT to download. It's not the most representative song, but certainly a REALLY catchy one, the first I liked off Twilight of the Idols and quite short (I'm a 56k user...)
http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CHSEGDWZ76AW22X6GE155P7N8
Arucard
04-26-2005, 04:25 PM
/Downloading.
No one shares my love for Richard Anderson. I think he owns all.
Stoic
04-26-2005, 04:37 PM
I like the bands he plays in. Wait, it was you who had once uploaded a Space Odyssey track, right? Cool stuff (especially the vocals)!
Arucard
04-26-2005, 04:51 PM
Yeh. The guitar playing is like OMG!
Lord Abortion
04-27-2005, 03:44 AM
buying blind gaurdian- live when I get paid...
should be good
Stoic
04-27-2005, 04:33 PM
Save some more money and get the DVD instead. Am I the only one who doesnt like live albums?
:upset: (sudden realization)
/will never see BG live with their original line up
RiceMonster
04-27-2005, 04:35 PM
buying blind gaurdian- live when I get paid...
should be good
That album is excellent. You won't regret it.
RiceMonster
04-27-2005, 04:35 PM
Save some more money and get the DVD instead. Am I the only one who doesnt like live albums?
:upset: (sudden realization)
/will never see BG live with their original line up
May I ask why you don't like live albums?
Stoic
04-27-2005, 04:45 PM
Mainly because of the poor sound quality. I'm quite demanding when it comes to production - especially in power and technical metal - and I'm fond of the crystal clear one (like Angra's latest). So, no matter how good the live recording is, the studio magic is lost
Sure it's cool when fans are singing along, the songs are played in a slightly different rawer (which is not always a good thing) way and the frontman talks to the crowd but I really see no point in live albums when there are DVDs.
Shattered_Future
04-27-2005, 04:49 PM
I cant understand why I still havent found someone in here to share my passion for Slough Feg. ? see that most of you are mostly fond of euro power metal (especially of the less aggressive-more melodic side of it) but the mighty Slough Feg are nothing like this.
I'm not sure whether you're familiar with them or not but I uploaded a track YOU OUGHT to download. It's not the most representative song, but certainly a REALLY catchy one, the first I liked off Twilight of the Idols and quite short (I'm a 56k user...)
http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CHSEGDWZ76AW22X6GE155P7N8
Coooool...Irish power metal! :lol:
I actually burst out laughing when i heard this...its funny.
Bit too odd for my tastes, but i still have it on my ipod.
Stoic
04-27-2005, 04:57 PM
amen! some feedback! Like I said it's not the most representative Slough Feg song but it's really adorable. Just listen to the lyrics!
i am the robots
04-27-2005, 07:20 PM
wow, that Irish Power Metal was.... very odd yet brilliant.
The Dark Philosopher
04-27-2005, 10:41 PM
Anybody here like Falconer?
Stoic
04-28-2005, 04:04 AM
The Sceptre of Deception was ok I guess. I still havent heard anything off their latest one though
Lord Abortion
04-28-2005, 04:20 AM
I like live albums- my love of alive in athens, maiden's live after death and metallica's live **** binge and burge, cannibal corpse- live cannibalism and mayhem live in liepzig is well documented on mx
ArcLite
04-28-2005, 04:24 AM
Anybody here like Falconer?
I like Chapter From a Vale Folklorn. I think they have a new album coming out next week.
The Dark Philosopher
04-28-2005, 12:03 PM
I like Chapter From a Vale Folklorn. I think they have a new album coming out next week.
Yeh thats what I heard. Do you know what its name is?
Xspeeder
04-28-2005, 01:19 PM
Anybody here like Falconer?
yes i listen to falconer. I have all their albums, including Grime Vs. Grandeur. Their vocalist has really done a great job on the new album. IM me if you want to listen to it.
Currently, my favorite power metal bands are: Angra, Insania, and Dragonland. Not many people have heard of them, but they are really great.
shadow_stalker
04-28-2005, 01:34 PM
Anyone heard Sonata ARctica's cover of Fade to Black, its pretty good
I've downloaded songs from the Falconer website, my favourite song is The Coronation.
I'd get an album of theirs, but I can't seem to find one thats cheap, everywhere I've looked has them for about £15 each.
RiceMonster
04-28-2005, 02:50 PM
I have to check out Falconer. What are they like?
Kinda average power metal, not too fast, not too slow. The lyrics are very typical of the genre and the singer has a pretty good voice.
Stoic
04-28-2005, 03:14 PM
By saying average you mean in terms of speed or quality? If you're refering to quality, I disagree with you. They're pretty good, with superb and quite technical at times guitar work, although often overlooked. It's actually the kind power I mostly like (more aggressive but yet melodic).
NP Avantasia - The Looking Glass
Average speed, pretty good quality.
They haven't really got to me like some power metal bands though, they're kinda in the middle of good/bad line IMO.
I'd like to seem them live though someday :)
Lord Abortion
04-28-2005, 03:49 PM
due to the kindness(?) of shadow_stalker I now have reckoning night by sonata arctica and both dragonforce albums on my computer
dragonforce 'kin rule!!
Stoic
04-28-2005, 04:00 PM
indeed they rule! Get yourself some Falconer now!
Lord Abortion
04-28-2005, 04:26 PM
indeed they rule! Get yourself some Falconer now!
since you are the expert- rccomend me some... :D
The Coronation is a good song to download.
You can get it from their website.
Lord Abortion
04-28-2005, 04:34 PM
sweet. thanks.
what other sonata albums should I be getting myself?
Winterheart's Guild is excellent.
Lord Abortion
04-28-2005, 04:39 PM
again, cheers and loving the sephiroth-ness BTW
christ, the hours of my life spent playing ff7...
over and over again
I spent about 3 days playing it almost non-stop, I got from the end of Disc 1 to the bit on Disc 3 where you can do whatever you want before going to fight Jenova+Sephiroth.
Lord Abortion
04-28-2005, 04:46 PM
yeah you can spend weeks doing that
i would love to devise a metal soundtrack for the bits in that game
although the music is great already...
The Black Mages kinda beat you to it there.
http://www.ffhybrid.net/mp3/mp3s.php
That website has mp3's for all the Final Fantasy music, all you need to do is register and you can begin downloading.
Lord Abortion
04-29-2005, 08:15 AM
yeah... I did hear about them
sounds pretty cool
but I meant through existing tracks
ie ooohh...
wallmarket- ozzy -miracle man
shadow_stalker
05-01-2005, 01:23 PM
I spent about 3 days playing it almost non-stop, I got from the end of Disc 1 to the bit on Disc 3 where you can do whatever you want before going to fight Jenova+Sephiroth.
I love that part of the game, i spend most of my time in gold saucer and dont do much else :lol:
Lord Abortion do you want to borrow Sonata Arctica's - Winter hearts guild album?
Tis very good, not sure if i prefer it over reckoning night though.
3rdplanet
05-01-2005, 05:11 PM
Queensr’che, power metal? prog? bit of both?
anyway they kick *** and they have some Power aspects to their music, and miss quite a few more.
shadow_stalker
05-02-2005, 04:06 PM
Just heard Cryonic temple for the first time, pretty good might get one of their albums.
Still no sign of the lost horizon cd i orderd. :upset:
Steerpike
06-29-2005, 02:56 AM
Bumping this thread up from the grave to whore for Wuthering Heights.
FrailandBedazzled1979
06-29-2005, 02:59 AM
^^^^
indeed one of the most unique power metal groups out there.
by the way, i saw Rhapsody and Manowar in Cleveland opening night (nice LONG drive!!) and wow...great show!!
i still got Edguy/Hammerfall and Stratovarius both in the months to come :)
Steerpike
06-29-2005, 03:02 AM
by the way, i saw Rhapsody and Manowar in Cleveland opening night (nice LONG drive!!) and wow...great show!!
i still got Edguy/Hammerfall and Stratovarius both in the months to come :)
Damn you and your money and transportation. :upset:
RideTheSpiral
06-29-2005, 04:06 AM
Whoa Frail. I haven't seen you in months. :chug:
FrailandBedazzled1979
06-29-2005, 04:18 AM
Damn you and your money and transportation. :upset:
haha, what can i say....delivery tips have been kind to me latley!! I gotta go 12 hours for Stratovarius and about 7 for Edguy...to bad power prog is sold out, i was DYING to see Angra :(
FrailandBedazzled1979
06-29-2005, 04:19 AM
Whoa Frail. I haven't seen you in months. :chug:
i needed a break buddy, never fear though hehe...power metal will always be life to me :)
RideTheSpiral
06-29-2005, 04:23 AM
i needed a break buddy, never fear though hehe...power metal will always be life to me :)
\m/ :cool:
Stoic
06-29-2005, 04:28 AM
Power metal thread revival! Sorry Steerpike I dont like Wuthering Heights (at least for now) :p. Can I whore for Zero Hour?
By the way, I think you've once mentioned Pagan's Mind in a thread. I own Infinity Divine but no matter how much I tried I couldnt get into it. However, I still hear very good comments about them...What's your opinion?
Steerpike
06-29-2005, 04:30 AM
I don't listen to them very often, but they do have some great songs. I just worry that they're going to drift off into masturbatory displays of Dream Theater-esque come-inducement.
Stoic
06-29-2005, 04:33 AM
haha, have you heard anything off their latest?
RideTheSpiral
06-29-2005, 04:33 AM
I dislike Pagan's Mind. I had such high expectations too.
Steerpike
06-29-2005, 04:34 AM
haha, have you heard anything off their latest?
No actually, I haven't.
Stoic
06-29-2005, 04:36 AM
nevermind, neither have I :(
FrailandBedazzled1979
06-29-2005, 04:39 AM
I dislike Pagan's Mind. I had such high expectations too.
i wasnt as impressed with them as i hoped to be either. The reviews on "celestial entrance" were flawless and after several listens i still cant recall a song i really got into. proof that masterful musicianship does not make you a good songwriter.
RideTheSpiral
06-29-2005, 04:40 AM
I don't even think I got all the way through the album. Maybe I should give them another try. :p
Stoic
06-29-2005, 04:41 AM
keep an eye to the thread, I'll soon upload some quality stuff
EDIT
i wasnt as impressed with them as i hoped to be either. The reviews on "celestial entrance" were flawless and after several listens i still cant recall a song i really got into. proof that masterful musicianship does not make you a good songwriter.
I feel exactly this way about infinity divine, the production of which by the way is awful. However, I dont think they're that technical. They're typical, generic, semi technical power/prog. A reviewer on www.metalcrypt.com does nothing but praising them all the time and I cant see why...
Stoic
06-29-2005, 05:02 AM
I hope you like it as much as I do :)
http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3D426UKV9Y6B10ARPGV6T8XBNJ
sensitiveorgan00
06-29-2005, 09:34 AM
keep an eye to the thread, I'll soon upload some quality stuff
EDIT
I feel exactly this way about infinity divine, the production of which by the way is awful. However, I dont think they're that technical. They're typical, generic, semi technical power/prog. A reviewer on www.metalcrypt.com does nothing but praising them all the time and I cant see why...
Does it happen to be requiem99? I had a lot of expectations for Celestial Entrance, due to his excessive laudation of Pagan's Mind, but I can't seem to get into it as well.
Shadows Within
06-29-2005, 09:45 AM
Avenged Sevenfold - City of Evil
supposed to be power metal...I think? anyway its good.
Lord Abortion
06-29-2005, 09:52 AM
i needed a break buddy, never fear though hehe...power metal will always be life to me :)
true words :cool:
whoring for lost horizon?
anyone else a fan?
Stoic
06-29-2005, 10:04 AM
Does it happen to be requiem99? I had a lot of expectations for Celestial Entrance, due to his excessive laudation of Pagan's Mind, but I can't seem to get into it as well.
Lord Requiem actually but we seem to be talking about the same guy :p
whoring for lost horizon?
I've been meaning to check them for such a long time. Any upload would be appreciated
i just got uploaded an A7X song off their latest album (beast and the harlot), i think i might get it...are they classed as Power Metal? the advert i saw on TV for the album described it as PM...
Stoic
06-29-2005, 11:18 AM
who's A7X?
Stoic
06-29-2005, 11:20 AM
oh right :)
ArcLite
06-29-2005, 11:24 AM
i just got uploaded an A7X song off their latest album (beast and the harlot), i think i might get it...are they classed as Power Metal? the advert i saw on TV for the album described it as PM...
Hey! The PM thread is back! Yes, their new album is most accurately described as power metal. However, their earlier albums were more metalcore/hardcore.
iAmCam
06-29-2005, 11:31 AM
Could someone reccomend me some power metal bands with a good bassist. Or any power metal song with a good bass line in it.
CaptainWaits
06-29-2005, 02:30 PM
great to see this thread back up, I saw considering making a new one.
Anyways, to discuss my Power Metal likings up to date, Blind Guardian has easily become one of my most respected bands
ArcLite
06-29-2005, 02:32 PM
I'm minutes away from listening to the new Demons & Wizards album. I gotta say, I haven't been this excited to listen to a new album in a long time. I'll post remarks after my, hopefully incredible, listening experience.
Shattered_Future
06-29-2005, 02:33 PM
Could someone reccomend me some power metal bands with a good bassist. Or any power metal song with a good bass line in it.
Dragonforce - Fury Of The Storm.
Sweeet basslines.
Could someone reccomend me some power metal bands with a good bassist. Or any power metal song with a good bass line in it.
i'd say DragonForce, Adrian Lambert's a class bassist. and they're just..awesome. my favourite song is Soldiers of the Wasteland, thats got good bass in it.
EDIT: wow, 2 of us suggested DragonForce at the same time.
Arucard
06-29-2005, 02:35 PM
I'm minutes away from listening to the new Demons & Wizards album. I gotta say, I haven't been this excited to listen to a new album in a long time. I'll post remarks after my, hopefully incredible, listening experience.
YSI some of it :angry:
I really wanna hear it.
ArcLite
06-29-2005, 02:36 PM
Will do, all in good time.
Arucard
06-29-2005, 02:36 PM
i just got uploaded an A7X song off their latest album (beast and the harlot), i think i might get it...are they classed as Power Metal? the advert i saw on TV for the album described it as PM...
Sorry for double post, but this is a frequently asked question. Yes, they have a lot of PM influences on the new album (Beast And The Harlot + Burn It Down are the biggest ones), but are still not outright Power. They combine so many genre's, its hard to class them.
FrailandBedazzled1979
06-29-2005, 02:44 PM
true words :cool:
whoring for lost horizon?
anyone else a fan?
god **** right i am!! Such a shame Daniel and (however you spell the guitarsit name!) left the group...i head some audio files of their new band "Heed" and is less than impressive :(
CaptainWaits
06-29-2005, 03:11 PM
Could someone reccomend me some power metal bands with a good bassist. Or any power metal song with a good bass line in it.
Blind Guardian or Symphony X (close enough to Power Metal)
I saw Dragon Force a couple of times, their bassist is good, but the band overall isn't. They have to learn to change it up once in a while.
RiceMonster
06-29-2005, 03:16 PM
Blind Guardian or Symphony X (close enough to Power Metal)
I saw Dragon Force a couple of times, their bassist is good, but the band overall isn't. They have to learn to change it up once in a while.
I wouldn't say the bassist from Dragonforce is anything special. He basically just lays back, and plays the root noted. Saying this, it doesn't mean that he has the ability to do more.
Lord Abortion
06-29-2005, 04:52 PM
god **** right i am!! Such a shame Daniel and (however you spell the guitarsit name!) left the group...i head some audio files of their new band "Heed" and is less than impressive :(
**** I really need to add you to msn
bah, not in your profile
NP- sonata arctica- the cage :cool:
iAmCam
06-29-2005, 04:58 PM
Blind Guardian or Symphony X (close enough to Power Metal)
I saw Dragon Force a couple of times, their bassist is good, but the band overall isn't. They have to learn to change it up once in a while.
Does Blind Guardian have a bass player? If so he is not listed on the bands website... or did he leave?
Does Blind Guardian have a bass player? If so he is not listed on the bands website... or did he leave?
I'm pretty sure that they do, but I don't know too much about them.
Steerpike
06-29-2005, 05:52 PM
On the first few albums, Hansi played bass. But on the last couple ones, they've hired a session player named Oliver Holzwarth so that Hansi can focus on his singing full-time.
Though he has talked about considering picking up the bass again.
How many Demons and Wizards fans do we have in the house?
Fallen Zero
06-29-2005, 06:23 PM
^^^I've heard a little bit of their music. Its very good and on the thrashier side of power metal.
FrailandBedazzled1979
06-29-2005, 07:30 PM
**** I really need to add you to msn
bah, not in your profile
NP- sonata arctica- the cage :cool:
i got rid of my MSN one but if you have AOL IM my name on there is "FatherCorgan1979"
FrailandBedazzled1979
06-29-2005, 07:31 PM
How many Demons and Wizards fans do we have in the house?
check out the thread i made for the new album yesterday, seems to have mixed reviews which i dont understand...i happen to love the new cd, although the last few tracks are weak (just like the last album).
FrailandBedazzled1979
06-29-2005, 07:33 PM
On the first few albums, Hansi played bass. But on the last couple ones, they've hired a session player named Oliver Holzwarth so that Hansi can focus on his singing full-time.
Though he has talked about considering picking up the bass again.
and Olivers brother is Alex has played drums for Angra, Rhapsody, Avantasia, Paradox, etc...i just saw him with Rhapsody....KILLER drum solo...jesus :thumb:
Terrorzone
06-29-2005, 08:31 PM
I just saw Rhapsody with Manowar and Holy Hell. They put on great shows. And like he said, Alex had a great drum solo.
CaptainWaits
06-30-2005, 12:12 AM
Since ManoWars been brought up...Who has heard "Flight of the Bumblebee" or "My Spirit Lives On"???
I find ManoWar to be extremely cheesy and lame, but those two tracks showed me they're pretty talented. Both solo tracks, "Flight of the Bumblebee" being Bass, "My Spirit Lives On" guitar.
Great solo tracks if you ask me
RiceMonster
06-30-2005, 12:14 AM
I wanted to go see Manowar and Rhapsody for the Rhapsody part, but sadly, I was broke and had to save my money for gigantour.
Lord Abortion
06-30-2005, 04:09 AM
bah, you Americans and your Gigantour,
my gig schedule is pretty full though
sonata arctica at thirteenth day?
will I go?
you bet your hat I am!
Stoic
06-30-2005, 04:12 AM
A question about Rhapsody: Their songs are symphonic with choirs and stuff, how do they play them live?
Skeksis
06-30-2005, 07:38 AM
bah, you Americans and your Gigantour
I'm going to see Symphony X kick some serious ***.
x_Evilized_x
06-30-2005, 08:31 AM
Hammerfall! \m/
My last purchase was Sonata Arctica - Silence. =D
Lost Horizon rawk!!! :thumb:
The Mercenary highvoltage
06-30-2005, 10:23 AM
Only power metal band i like(and heard) is Helloween but its great so don't need any more power :P
Stoic
06-30-2005, 12:05 PM
What I've heard from Helloween (especially their early stuff) it's indeed pretty good and they have been very influencial for the genre. This doesnt mean that there is no other great power metal out there *coughs* Blind Guardian *coughs*
/fanboy :p
Arucard
06-30-2005, 12:07 PM
Angr's drummer is so tight live its unreal. Its just insane.
CaptainWaits
07-01-2005, 12:42 PM
What I've heard from Helloween (especially their early stuff) it's indeed pretty good and they have been very influencial for the genre. This doesnt mean that there is no other great power metal out there *coughs* Blind Guardian *coughs*
/fanboy :p
Helloween only released one worthy album IMO. "Dark Ride". Blind Guardian, hasn't released a weak record yet :)
Stoic
07-01-2005, 12:45 PM
"yet", I'm so anxious about their next step. Dont you like any of the first three (helloween)?
CaptainWaits
07-01-2005, 12:51 PM
"yet", I'm so anxious about their next step. Dont you like any of the first three (helloween)?
The only album I really cared for out of the first 3 was "Keeper of the Seven Keys: Part I"...
..."Part II" didn't appeal to me, and for their first release (forget the name), I still haven't heard the whole album, only a selective few tracks....and I didn't care for them much. Maybe they were just poorly picked tracks.
ExitWound
07-01-2005, 01:18 PM
I haven't been here in quite some time, so apologies if I've missed chat about the following questions.
Anyone hear anything about Gamma Ray's Majestic beside what's on their website? Can't wait. It's been so long since we've had new material from them.
Anyone know where I can pickup Lust for Live the DVD in NTSC (region0) for less than the import price of like $55? Heading for the East was cheap, like $15 but Lust for Live is always so expensive.
Anyone get Nostradameus' Hellbound? It's CRAZY. I have a few samples on my website: Clicky here for free songs (http://www.theexitwound.com).
Anyone check out Reviver? I got my name in the Special Thanks in the liner notes of their debut album AND an autographed copy for being a big fan. :thumb: Incredible stuff.
ExitWound
07-01-2005, 01:27 PM
I'm minutes away from listening to the new Demons & Wizards album. I gotta say, I haven't been this excited to listen to a new album in a long time. I'll post remarks after my, hopefully incredible, listening experience.
I dislike it immensely. I think it's a step down from their first release. The compositions are less D&W and more like "Hansi does Iced Earth". The drumming is more in your face in this release, which to me as a drummer is fun to listen to, but it kinda pulls my attention away from the rest of the music. Hansi's voice is decent as always, but it's just doesn't strike me the way the initial release did. I don't know. The cover of Immigrant Song isn't worth the disk space either. Overall, I prefer the first disc.
Stoic
07-01-2005, 01:41 PM
Anyone get Nostradameus' Hellbound? It's CRAZY. I have a few samples on my website: Clicky here for free songs.
Anyone check out Reviver? I got my name in the Special Thanks in the liner notes of their debut album AND an autographed copy for being a big fan. Incredible stuff.
Well done, lucky man :thumb:. I have never heard of these bands before, thanks a lot for recommending them.
I remember you from somewhere...Arent you the guy who was saying that you cannot fully appreciate Nightfall in Middle Earth unless you've read the book? Well you've made me read it and I totally agree with you. I was looking for you some months ago to explain me a few things on the concept but couldnt find you. Thankfully, a newbie suggested me a pretty helpful site. POST MORE!
Taste_My_Scythe
07-01-2005, 01:47 PM
Which Stratovarius album would you guys recommend for someone whose favorite songs are
Eagleheart
Speed of Light
Phoenix
Stratosphere
IheartSP
07-01-2005, 01:51 PM
You happend to pick songs pretty much all from different albums. Try out Elements Pt. 1 or Infinite.
Taste_My_Scythe
07-01-2005, 02:11 PM
You happend to pick songs pretty much all from different albums. Try out Elements Pt. 1 or Infinite.
Mkay, thanks! I've been wanting to get an album, but never knew which one to start with. All the Stratovarius songs I have are the ones people have uploaded me on this board, so.
IheartSP
07-01-2005, 02:16 PM
I uploaded Black Diamond at one point in the YSI thread idk if it'd still be up for download, it was a few days ago.
ACircuitShock
07-01-2005, 02:17 PM
I'm just getting into power metal. I've started with Iced Earth, which I realize isn't exactly power metal, but it's opened the door to more stuff like it. I also have Blind Guardian's Nightfall in Middle Earth which is amazing. Can anyone recommend me or upload some Galloglass? I've never heard them and the whole violin idea intrigues me. Thanks.
Taste_My_Scythe
07-01-2005, 02:17 PM
I uploaded Black Diamond at one point in the YSI thread idk if it'd still be up for download, it was a few days ago.
I got it already. :thumb:
IheartSP
07-01-2005, 02:19 PM
I'm just getting into power metal. I've started with Iced Earth, which I realize isn't exactly power metal, but it's opened the door to more stuff like it. I also have Blind Guardian's Nightfall in Middle Earth which is amazing. Can anyone recommend me or upload some Galloglass? I've never heard them and the whole violin idea intrigues me. Thanks.
Try out Stratovarius for some really melodic powermetal. Dragonforce is good too if you like extremely cheesy stuff.
Taste_My_Scythe
07-01-2005, 02:20 PM
Dragonforce is good too if you like extremely cheesy stuff.
:lol: They are so cheesy it's funny. I listen to them when I need a laugh. I have this one song on a GuitarOne cd.
IheartSP
07-01-2005, 02:21 PM
I don't perticularly like them even with cheesiness aside. They are so boring compared to Stratovarius.
ACircuitShock
07-01-2005, 02:22 PM
Try out Stratovarius for some really melodic powermetal. Dragonforce is good too if you like extremely cheesy stuff.
Will do, thanks. Cheesiness is ok, I can ignore it for the guitar work.
Taste_My_Scythe
07-01-2005, 02:24 PM
I don't perticularly like them even with cheesiness aside. They are so boring compared to Stratovarius.
Oh, definately! Stratovarius is awesome.
Will do, thanks. Cheesiness is ok, I can ignore it for the guitar work.
Just in case you're wondering; think Avenged Sevenfold meets Journey. :thumb:
ACircuitShock
07-01-2005, 02:25 PM
Just in case you're wondering; think Avenged Sevenfold meets Journey. :thumb:
Okay.......... that's an odd combination.
Taste_My_Scythe
07-01-2005, 02:27 PM
Okay.......... that's an odd combination.
That is the first thing that I thought when I heard them. By all means, though, don't let that stop you. :p
ExitWound
07-01-2005, 03:00 PM
Well done, lucky man :thumb:. I have never heard of these bands before, thanks a lot for recommending them.
I remember you from somewhere...Arent you the guy who was saying that you cannot fully appreciate Nightfall in Middle Earth unless you've read the book? Well you've made me read it and I totally agree with you. I was looking for you some months ago to explain me a few things on the concept but couldnt find you. Thankfully, a newbie suggested me a pretty helpful site. POST MORE!
I think it might have been me who said that. If not, I believe it :) It certainly does make the lyricsheet a little more personal, understanding lines like "And blood tears I cry. Endless grief remained inside. Cut off your old friends hand". It's a long and drawn out tale, but it's fun nonetheless.
Nostradameus' Prophet of Evil was an amazing disc to me. It's good v evil, star wars like almost, no hidden messages, just straight power metal in all its glory. As they evolved, the music changed in a way that I never expected. The Third Prophecy extended its sound into more dark areas, speaking of tales of fallen empires. But Hellbound is even moreso different. I would never link Prophet of Evil and Hellbound to the same band other than Freddy's voice. It's good stuff but SO different from The Words of Nostradameus and Prophet of Evil.
Reviver's gotten some good reviews on their premier disc. Patrick's voice is superb, sounding different depending on the track style. He's my favorite vocalist. They took the demos and sped them up, made them a little less perfect, creating a disc that's sounds much more live than studio. Speaking of fallen empires as well, REVIVER tells the tales of Atlantis, and Quetzacoatal and such. It's fast, it's heavy, it's heavy metal intertwined with elements of power and classic styles of modern rock. It's fun, really. Plus, as I said, I'm in the liner notes :thumb:
ACircuitShock, you may download some Galloglass from my site as well. Just for you, I've put up a few tracks for you to sample. Good stuff. Apparently, their new disc is being released in August. Download them here (http://www.theexitwound.com/music4u). Please don't share the link outside this thread.
And Wizard's Magic Circle has been released! I should be getting it in the mail today or monday! Woo!!
Stoic
07-01-2005, 04:11 PM
I downloaded the Nostradameus songs from your site. They're like you said straight power metal in all its glory. They sound like a combination of "Tales from the Twilight World" and "Somewhere Far Beyond". In fact the chorus of "Never Turning Back" reminded me of "Welcome to Dying". The more I listen to them the more I sense a huge Blind Guardian influence (without the folk elements). Not very original but they sound aggressive and very tight.
ExitWound
07-01-2005, 04:40 PM
Blind Guardian was the first band I discovered when I went looking for a new line of metal. It was decent stuff, but ultimately, Nightfall was the last 'good' disc that I believe they produced. A night at the opera was just not for me. Or Thomen, their drummer, it seems.
You should check out his new stuff, Savage Circus, at his website (http://www.thomen.de/). It features the singer of Persuader, who has been mistaken for Hansi by some people. It's fast, furious, and what Blind Guardian would have sounded like fi they left out the bard influences and layering of Hansi choirs.
bball_1523
07-01-2005, 04:47 PM
does anyone know any good prog-power bands that sound like angra, blind guardian and symphony x?
Stoic
07-01-2005, 04:49 PM
Instead of "Nightfall was the last 'good' disc that I believe they produced", you could say "ANATO is the only average album the produced". You sound like rejecting them and/or not believing in them just because of a single bad release.
BG = Hansi + Andre
The BG albums differ from one another. Just because they have released a more operatic album, it doesnt mean that this is the direction they will follow from now on. Besides Hansi stated that their next album wont have so many choirs
ExitWound
07-01-2005, 05:25 PM
BG proved they can write complex operatic symphonies using the metal genre. I will give them that. But Thomen has left them, and many fans, such as myself, have seen the dent that the change like A Night at the Opera can put in a fanbase. Core fans will always be core fans. And BG still have and always will have a following. Nightfall blended the best of their speed metal past with the melodies of the 'new' BG (pre-Imaginations). I listened to Twilight yesterday for the first time in a long time and actually WANTed more BG like that. It's a shame, to me, that they've evolved beyond the boundaries of 'typical' power metal.
What if Andre leaves? Is it still BG if Hansi continues? Thomen was a big part of the band. Sure, "anyone can play the drums", but they're going to play it their own way and add their own influences and technique. Filling his spot and still making it sound like BG will be difficult. But as stated by them, they have people in mind for the job.
But maybe you're right. Maybe it should be "only average disc they have released". But I can't listen to A Night at the Opera without cringing. I do hope they drop the choirs, but leave backing vocals of course. I want the POWER put back in the music.
IheartSP
07-01-2005, 05:40 PM
I've only heard one song off Night At the Opera and I love it, the song Battlefield.
Stoic
07-01-2005, 05:45 PM
ExitWoundI see your point. It's normal not to be satisfied with BG's direction since you seem to be an old school aggressive power/speed fan. We just have to be patient until the new album I guess
I don't think that A Night At The Opera was actually that bad an album in its own right...compared to some of Blind Guardian's older releases it was pretty mediocre, but there was still some mighty fine music on there in my opinion. Having said that, less choirs on the next album is still a good thing. A Night At The Opera did go over the top several times with that.
I agree with this.
I've only heard one song off Night At the Opera and I love it, the song Battlefield.
It certainly has its moments, cool song indeed
MarkOsullivan
07-01-2005, 06:06 PM
Dragonforce!!!!!!!! \m/ \m/
Don't know any other power metal. But I once got an angra song and it was so da.mn gay I had to delete it. Right away. And then take a shower.
PEOPLE. Download sabaton. Trust me.
Get 'Primo Victoria'
Steerpike
07-01-2005, 06:27 PM
I'm just getting into power metal. I've started with Iced Earth, which I realize isn't exactly power metal, but it's opened the door to more stuff like it. I also have Blind Guardian's Nightfall in Middle Earth which is amazing. Can anyone recommend me or upload some Galloglass? I've never heard them and the whole violin idea intrigues me. Thanks.
If you like the bardic and melodic elements of Blind Guardian, I recommend you look into Wuthering Heights and Lost Horizon respectively.
Unfortunately, I've had little luck in getting my hands on some Galloglass.
A couple other recommendations I'd give you would be Savatage, Tarot, Nightwish, and Manowar.
Savatage and Tarot have the more aggressive sound of Iced Earth, Manowar has strong heavy metal influences, and Nightwish are a very epic-sounding symphonic band.
For specific albums, I highly recommend:
Lost Horizon - A Flame to the Ground Beneath
Savatage - Streets: a Rock Opera
Tarot - Suffer Our Pleasures
Nightwish - Century Child
Manowar - Kings of Metal
TojesDolan
07-01-2005, 07:26 PM
mmm...Hey everyone.
I'm not a big fan of power metal, mostly becuase lyrics can go off the board a little at times. But I like some such as Children Of Bodom, Stratovarius, Savatage, Dragonforce, Nightwish is alright as well, Blind Guardian and Iced earth.
I'm expanding horizons too, I think. So I'll be checking back on this thread later to see some more songs. :thumb:
ExitWound
07-01-2005, 10:36 PM
Again, you may download some Galloglass from my site as well. I've put up a few tracks for you to sample. Good stuff. Apparently, their new disc is being released in August. Download them here. (http://www.theexitwound.com/music4u) I don't want to post the whole album because I think that these bands, who play for no more than 1000 people at a time, deserve your purchase to continue making these incredible records. They may not be on air or widespread, but they're musicians trying to get by too.
Places to get Galloglass: http://www.theendrecords.com, http://www.amazon.com
sensitiveorgan00
07-01-2005, 11:12 PM
ExitWound, glad that you brought up Nostradameus. I recall downloading a Nostradameus song on your website, having lyrics about "rape, rape your daughter, etc.". What song is that, and what album is that on? Thanks.
On another note, Skylark's singer is VERY HOT (http://www.xametal.com/skylark/Emember-kiara.htm) .
Is the band any good, and what's an album I should check out?
Shadows
07-01-2005, 11:48 PM
Skylark's singer is VERY HOT (http://www.xametal.com/skylark/Emember-kiara.htm) .
Wow...just wow...
RideTheLighting
07-01-2005, 11:51 PM
http://s9.invisionfree.com/The_Underworld/index.php?act=idx
ExitWound
07-01-2005, 11:53 PM
That's "Far Too Strong" from The Third Prophecy, easily the best song on the disc. Freddy's screams at 2.19 and 2.28 make my nerves tingle. So much power behind them.
Download it here. (http://www.theexitwound.com/music4u)
If I only listen to Iced Earth and Children of Bodom, what would be a good step for listening to more power metal?
Stoic
07-02-2005, 03:39 AM
Again, you may download some Galloglass from my site as well. I've put up a few tracks for you to sample. Good stuff. Apparently, their new disc is being released in August. Download them here.
good chance to check them out :)
PEOPLE. Download sabaton. Trust me.
Get 'Primo Victoria'
I am with him: http://music.download.com/sabaton/3600-8667-100130831.html?tag=quickurl
****ing EPIC power with balls and killer vocalist :evil:
EDIT
If I only listen to Iced Earth and Children of Bodom, what would be a good step for listening to more power metal?
Get some Blind Guardian and the rest will be history :D
IheartSP
07-02-2005, 11:00 AM
If you like Children of Bodom you'd love Stratovarius. It's like the same thing without the speed metal heaviness and just as much melody. The singing can be a bit cheesy at times but overall its pretty good.
Lord Abortion
07-02-2005, 05:51 PM
Wow...just wow...
waaah...
she is bloody hot!!!
she can power my metal anytime
sensitiveorgan00
07-02-2005, 06:47 PM
That's "Far Too Strong" from The Third Prophecy, easily the best song on the disc. Freddy's screams at 2.19 and 2.28 make my nerves tingle. So much power behind them.
Download it here. (http://www.theexitwound.com/music4u)
Thanks a lot. I <3 that song.
I am with him: http://music.download.com/sabaton/3600-8667-100130831.html?tag=quickurl
****ing EPIC power with balls and killer vocalist
Dude, Panzer Batallion just fvcking slays. What are other power metal bands with low(er) (not growling) vocals, such as Sabaton?
Lord of Sword
07-02-2005, 07:15 PM
i don't feel like searching all through this thread so i'll just ask anyway. but i heard san sebastien by sonata arctica a few days ago, and have downloaded 8th commandment and the video for wolf and raven since all of which i really like. so what would be some other songs of theirs for me to download? i'm also thinking of getting one of their albums, so i'd like some help in deciding which one, considering i've only heard these 3 songs of theirs.
Skeksis
07-03-2005, 12:14 AM
i don't feel like searching all through this thread so i'll just ask anyway. but i heard san sebastien by sonata arctica a few days ago, and have downloaded 8th commandment and the video for wolf and raven since all of which i really like. so what would be some other songs of theirs for me to download? i'm also thinking of getting one of their albums, so i'd like some help in deciding which one, considering i've only heard these 3 songs of theirs.
Get Silence, that's a great album. Reckoning Night, their latest album doesn't have as many fast songs and crazy *** solos as Silence but it's still pretty amazing. It showcases SA's emphasis on ballads and beautiful songwriting greatly.
Skeksis
07-03-2005, 12:16 AM
Does anyone here have Timo Tolkki's "Hym to Life"? I heard "Dear God" and I liked it a lot. How is the rest of the album?
Stoic
07-03-2005, 05:50 AM
Dude, Panzer Batallion just fvcking slays. What are other power metal bands with low(er) (not growling) vocals, such as Sabaton?
Hail man, it's been a while since I last saw you here, hope you're doing well :).
I'm glad you like Sabaton but unfortunately I dont know anyone like him (no so far at least).
This old thread from the MA might be helpful:
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=11110&highlight=reccomend+recommend+power+metal
My suggestion would be the mighty Slough Feg. Mike's vocals arent that low but they arent high pitched either. They're an incredible band.
/huge slough feg fanboy :p
EDIT
you'd better re-upload your avatar, it looks distorted
If you like the bardic and melodic elements of Blind Guardian, I recommend you look into Wuthering Heights and Lost Horizon respectively.
Unfortunately, I've had little luck in getting my hands on some Galloglass.
A couple other recommendations I'd give you would be Savatage, Tarot, Nightwish, and Manowar.
Savatage and Tarot have the more aggressive sound of Iced Earth, Manowar has strong heavy metal influences, and Nightwish are a very epic-sounding symphonic band.
For specific albums, I highly recommend:
Lost Horizon - A Flame to the Ground Beneath
Savatage - Streets: a Rock Opera
Tarot - Suffer Our Pleasures
Nightwish - Century Child
Manowar - Kings of Metal
I have 2 songs by Galloglass, I think I got them from their website.
I can upload if you want them.
thebigyin
07-03-2005, 08:27 AM
Dragonforce!!!!!!!! \m/ \m/
Don't know any other power metal. But I once got an angra song and it was so da.mn gay I had to delete it. Right away. And then take a shower.
I'm fairly similar to you, at least to a certain extent. I'm going to see Dragonforce at Edinburgh Liquid Rooms with half my band, they're amazin' :D
I have heard some other stuff that I think is Power Metal...... Rhapsody? Stratovarius? Leviathan? Ring Of Fire? Emerald?
sensitiveorgan00
07-03-2005, 10:21 AM
Hail man, it's been a while since I last saw you here, hope you're doing well :).
I'm glad you like Sabaton but unfortunately I dont know anyone like him (no so far at least).
This old thread from the MA might be helpful:
he mighty Slough Feg. Mike's vocals arent that low but they arent high pitchehttp://www.metal-archives.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=11110&highlight=reccomend+recommend+power+metal
My suggestion would be td either. They're an incredible band.
/huge slough feg fanboy :p
EDIT
you'd better re-upload your avatar, it looks distorted
Yeah, I just read most of the time now, and rarely post. I've been meaning to check out Slough Feg since I've heard only good things about them, could you upload a song or two?
I like my avatar distorted, I got pissed off when I re-uploaded it - good thing the forums got fvcked up again.
Anyone have news on Iced Earth touring this summer? On their website it says they won't tour until summer 2005, and that's now! I need to see them play a show!
Help me out if you have any info. on this.
Lord Abortion
07-03-2005, 12:44 PM
Anyone have news on Iced Earth touring this summer? On their website it says they won't tour until summer 2005, and that's now! I need to see them play a show!
Help me out if you have any info. on this.
no, I wish I did
my "bands to see" list has them squarely at the top
others are
cannibal corpse
blind guardian
mayhem
dream theater
metallica
no, I wish I did
my "bands to see" list has them squarely at the top
others are
cannibal corpse
blind guardian
mayhem
dream theater
metallica
Not too fond of Cannibal Corpse or Mayhem, but I would love to see any other band on your list.
IheartSP
07-03-2005, 12:56 PM
no, I wish I did
my "bands to see" list has them squarely at the top
others are
cannibal corpse
blind guardian
mayhem
dream theater
metallica
It's not everyday you see a powermetal fan who listens to black and death too.
Lord Abortion
07-03-2005, 01:04 PM
It's not everyday you see a powermetal fan who listens to black and death too.
my music taste is varied.
I listen to a load of stuff from r+m
IheartSP
07-03-2005, 01:15 PM
my music taste is varied.
I listen to a load of stuff from r+m
As a devout melodic metal fan, Black Metal goes against everything I believe in :p
Shattered_Future
07-03-2005, 01:17 PM
my music taste is varied.
I listen to a load of stuff from r+m
Same...i listen to almost anything that i find good. Doesn't matter what genre it is.
Have been getting into power metal a lot lately...does anybody else think Helloween kicks epic ***?
Stoic
07-03-2005, 01:18 PM
Yeah, I just read most of the time now, and rarely post. I've been meaning to check out Slough Feg since I've heard only good things about them, could you upload a song or two?
sure, I will upload something as soon as I decide which songs (REALLY tough, believe me) :p
EDIT
It's not everyday you see a powermetal fan who listens to black and death too
:wave:
My knowledge on death is bigger though. I dont listen to anything else besides metal (no time and money).
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 01:54 PM
my music taste is varied.
I listen to a load of stuff from r+m
Same here. Power, death, melodic, everything.
Huber
07-03-2005, 01:56 PM
my music taste is varied.
I listen to a load of stuff from r+m
That's practically what this place is for, people who pretty much listen to everything they like, without a genre or label stepping in the way.
Steerpike
07-03-2005, 02:00 PM
Every genre has something that anybody can enjoy. This place just makes it easier to find.
Lord Abortion
07-03-2005, 02:02 PM
Every genre has something that anybody can enjoy. This place just makes it easier to find.
I totally agree, that's why BM and DM have watered down versions of the genres like melo-death and dimmu borgir/graveworm style BM
Steerpike
07-03-2005, 02:20 PM
Personally, I was never a fan of the more extreme versions of either genre. Not my style. The "tr00" and "nekro" BM always had that production. It all sounds like they bootlegged it off of a cellphone voice mail box.
And brutal death metal... If I wanted a blasting wall of sound with an unseen voice to punish me for an imagined transgression, I would turn to religion
Shattered_Future
07-03-2005, 02:22 PM
Personally, I was never a fan of the more extreme versions of either genre. Not my style. The "tr00" and "nekro" BM always had that production. It all sounds like they bootlegged it off of a cellphone voice mail box.
And brutal death metal... If I wanted a blasting wall of sound with an unseen voice to punish me for an imagined transgression, I would turn to religion
Ouch...not very religion-happy, are we?
True...uber tr00 black metal is CRAP...i like stuff with good production.
Death metal...hit or miss for me. Nile was the only death metal band i could really listen to for more than one song...
Stoic
07-03-2005, 02:27 PM
And brutal death metal... If I wanted a blasting wall of sound with an unseen voice to punish me for an imagined transgression, I would turn to religion
:lol:
I've recently got into brutal death and/or grind (not all of it though). It's genius music if you can stand it.
IheartSP
07-03-2005, 02:28 PM
I don't see why it's genious, grind is ridiculous if you ask me its just pure noise and brutal death is just supposed to be as heavy as possible, isn't music about melody? Isn't that what music is?
Shattered_Future
07-03-2005, 02:31 PM
I don't see why it's genious, grind is ridiculous if you ask me its just pure noise and brutal death is just supposed to be as heavy as possible, isn't music about melody? Isn't that what music is?
Grind - It takes LOTS of skill to go that fast, especially on drums, and make it sound decent
Brutal Death - Listen to Nile's drummer...all i have to say.
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 02:33 PM
Grind - It takes LOTS of skill to go that fast, especially on drums, and make it sound decent
Can you give me an example (meaning band) of "grind" metal? I'm just wondering if I've heard any.
Stoic
07-03-2005, 02:34 PM
well it depends on the band. As far as the stuff I like is concerned, if you listen closely you'll find great amounts of melody even in the brutal death/grind riffage. A good idea is to listen to a powertab before listening to the actual song (this is how I got into at least 4 brutal death acts).
IheartSP
07-03-2005, 02:35 PM
Yeah but drumming isn't music. I respect a grind drummers skill, they play some hard stuff. But you can play chromatics on guitar at 300 bpm 16th notes and I still won't wanna listen to it, no matter how hard it may be. Kai Hahto happens to be one of my favorite drummers, I think he's really good, and I've never heard any Rotten Sound stuff but I'd think in a band like that good drumming would go to waste as opposed to Wintersun where great drumming like that really adds.
Stoic
07-03-2005, 02:36 PM
Can you give me an example (meaning band) of "grind" metal? I'm just wondering if I've heard any.
Origin play technical death/grind (not pure grind though). Their riffs and the rhythmic sense of melody on the vocals is incredible, they leave me with an open mouth.
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 02:37 PM
Origin play technical death/grind (not pure grind though). Their riffs and the rhythmic sense of melody on the vocals is incredible, they leave me with an open mouth.
Any uploads? I haven't heard them.
Shattered_Future
07-03-2005, 02:37 PM
Can you give me an example (meaning band) of "grind" metal? I'm just wondering if I've heard any.
Best example is Napalm Death's first album - Scum.
And then, im pretty sure The Locust is grind...
Napalm Death mp3s (http://www.centurymedia.com/index2.htm)
Click on audio (if it isn't already on audio) and scroll down to Napalm Death. Few mp3s, if I'm not mistaken.
Lots of other great bands there too. :thumb:
EDIT: nvm, its up under new additions.
Stoic
07-03-2005, 02:38 PM
Any uploads? I haven't heard them.
sure :), coming
EDIT
as soon as I find the CD, I'm a very untidy person and lose them all the time in my room :p
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 02:40 PM
Best example is Napalm Death's first album - Scum.
And then, im pretty sure The Locust is grind...
Napalm Death mp3s (http://www.centurymedia.com/index2.htm)
Click on audio (if it isn't already on audio) and scroll down to Napalm Death. Few mp3s, if I'm not mistaken.
Lots of other great bands there too. :thumb:
EDIT: nvm, its up under new additions.
ooooh, awesome, thank you! Great mp3s there. I've been wanting to hear Manntis ever since I saw Adaer in Battle for Ozzfest. ;) :D
Steerpike
07-03-2005, 02:40 PM
Carcass also played grind before they split up.
Mastodon is a weird hybrid of grind, but their drummer (Branne Dahler I think was his name) is a beast behind that kit.
IheartSP
07-03-2005, 02:45 PM
Mastodon is listed as progressive sludge
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 02:46 PM
sure :), coming
EDIT
as soon as I find the CD, I'm a very untidy person and lose them all the time in my room :p
Thanks tons!
Shattered_Future
07-03-2005, 02:46 PM
Mastodon is listed as progressive sludge
Yea, but sludge is slow...Mastodon isn't THAT slow, at least from what i've heard of them.
Stoic
07-03-2005, 02:54 PM
Thanks tons!
my pleasure!
Well found the Origin CD, it was inside the Spastic Ink case, who know where the Spastic Ink CD is! :p
Here's the song. I hope the drumming wont turn you off since some people find it monotonous. As for me, I find this kind of drumming enjoyable as long as it's not Hate Eternal.
http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1P8KTZJPVF4TK1JXKNUTH5ESA6
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 02:57 PM
my pleasure!
Well found the Origin CD, it was inside the Spastic Ink case, who know where the Spastic Ink CD is! :p
Here's the song. I hope the drumming wont turn you off since some people find it monotonous. As for me, I find this kind of drumming enjoyable as long as it's not Hate Eternal.
http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1P8KTZJPVF4TK1JXKNUTH5ESA6
It didn't work. :upset:
Stoic
07-03-2005, 03:00 PM
seriously? It's working for me. Give me a minute, I'll see what to do.
xxxhttp://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1P8KTZJPVF4TK1JXKNUTH5ESA6
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 03:06 PM
seriously? It's working for me. Give me a minute, I'll see what to do.
xxxhttp://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1P8KTZJPVF4TK1JXKNUTH5ESA6
ah, ok. It worked. Whoops. I'm such a dork; I did "save target as" like I was doing for about 15 minutes in another window. :rolleyes: Sorry.
Stoic
07-03-2005, 03:08 PM
:lol:
nevermind
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 03:09 PM
:lol:
nevermind
Yeah...*sigh*...I've got serious issues. :amaze:
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-03-2005, 03:12 PM
I'm just mad Jari left Stratovarius :(
Steerpike
07-03-2005, 03:12 PM
Yeah...*sigh*...I've got serious issues. :amaze:
Get in line. A little less than half an hour ago, my wireless went out and I spent five or ten minutes screaming myself hoarse at my computer, "Connect you digital hellspawn! Give me back my internet, ****-mook!"
I imagine it would have been rather comical to watch.
I'm just mad Jari left Stratovarius :(
Weak! Jari was awesome. Why did he leave?
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 03:13 PM
Get in line. A little less than half an hour ago, my wireless went out and I spent five or ten minutes screaming myself hoarse at my computer, "Connect you digital hellspawn! Give me back my internet, ****-mook!"
I imagine it would have been rather comical to watch.
:lol: The story of my life.
Shattered_Future
07-03-2005, 03:14 PM
Get in line. A little less than half an hour ago, my wireless went out and I spent five or ten minutes screaming myself hoarse at my computer, "Connect you digital hellspawn! Give me back my internet, ****-mook!"
I imagine it would have been rather comical to watch.
Weak! Jari was awesome. Why did he leave?
Have you ever thrown a shoe at the TV before?
If not, then I'VE got issues...
Anyway, i thought Stratovarius broke up a long time ago? :confused:
Stoic
07-03-2005, 03:16 PM
Get in line. A little less than half an hour ago, my wireless went out and I spent five or ten minutes screaming myself hoarse at my computer, "Connect you digital hellspawn! Give me back my internet, ****-mook!"
Hell, I totally understand you. PC problems (and I have lots of them, believe me) drive me REALLY crazy to the point of crying! :mad:
Steerpike
07-03-2005, 03:16 PM
Have you ever thrown a shoe at the TV before?
If not, then I'VE got issues...
You got me beat there.
Anyway, i thought Stratovarius broke up a long time ago? :confused:
No, they hit some snags but managed to pull together.
Sadly, just when they're working on new material, now Jari leaves.
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 03:18 PM
Have you ever thrown a shoe at the TV before?
If not, then I'VE got issues...
Might I ask why?
Stoic
07-03-2005, 03:19 PM
Have you ever thrown a shoe at the TV before?
If not, then I'VE got issues...
I have broken two keyboards and when I was little I used to slap myself when losing at sega master system console and bite my game boy cassettes :cool:
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-03-2005, 03:21 PM
Weak! Jari was awesome. Why did he leave?
Apprently he was never very much into the band and wanted to spend time with his family now, its been 10 years i suppose and they have Lauri (hes a guy not a girl lol) from Sinergy to fill his spot.
Stoic
07-03-2005, 03:22 PM
SLOUGH FEG UPLOAD FOR SENSITIVEORGAN00
man, I wish I could upload all the 5 albums. I hope you like these:
Professor's Theme off Traveller
http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2001TW0RN8QZS1PHM2L1FCT08G
Brave Connor Mac off Twilight of the Idols
http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2KKSIXHOTTYS30AEIQCQ5NGUP0
The Wickerman off Twilight off the Idols
http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=29N4KBCV0QJKN35LU687VF61EM
Sky Chariots off Down Among the Dead Men
http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3REYBEWNWKW5V20F8F6XIZJXLZ
Lord Abortion
07-03-2005, 03:32 PM
Get in line. A little less than half an hour ago, my wireless went out and I spent five or ten minutes screaming myself hoarse at my computer, "Connect you digital hellspawn! Give me back my internet, ****-mook!"
I imagine it would have been rather comical to watch.
I hate my wireless connection, but I have never used the term "****-mook to describe it... cunt-face is a good one
it goes about every 10 minutes
Steerpike
07-03-2005, 03:35 PM
I hate my wireless connection, but I have never used the term "****-mook to describe it... cunt-face is a good one
it goes about every 10 minutes
I picked ****-mook up from Once Upon a Time In Mexico. Great movie.
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 03:36 PM
I picked ****-mook up from Once Upon a Time In Mexico. Great movie.
I heard it sucked.
Steerpike
07-03-2005, 03:39 PM
It's a Robert Rodriguez film. Kind of difficult to suck.
If nothing else, pick up the DVD for the special features. Robert Rodriguez gives the 10-Minute Flick School and 10-Minute Cooking School.
That actually produced one of my favorite quotes: "Not knowing how to cook is like not knowing how to ****."
Taste_My_Scythe
07-03-2005, 03:43 PM
It's a Robert Rodriguez film. Kind of difficult to suck.
If nothing else, pick up the DVD for the special features. Robert Rodriguez gives the 10-Minute Flick School and 10-Minute Cooking School.
That actually produced one of my favorite quotes: "Not knowing how to cook is like not knowing how to ****."
Sweet. I'll have to check it out. Great quote. :thumb: Later, dudes.
Lord Abortion
07-03-2005, 03:52 PM
That actually produced one of my favorite quotes: "Not knowing how to cook is like not knowing how to ****."
true, that could impress girls too... :lol:
Steerpike
07-03-2005, 03:56 PM
true, that could impress girls too... :lol:
There are few women I've talked to who aren't impressed by a guy who can cook.
I'm actually thinking of experimenting with German cuisine this week.
Kronos
07-03-2005, 04:01 PM
There are few women I've talked to who aren't impressed by a guy who can cook.
I'm actually thinking of experimenting with German cuisine this week.
Er, from what I've experienced, you won't need a week. :lol:
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-03-2005, 10:11 PM
Anyone into the Italien band Drakkar?
Shattered_Future
07-03-2005, 10:23 PM
Might I ask why?
Crappy crappy reality tv...it should burn in hell.
Here brings up an interesting question...which is better, old school power metal (Helloween...only example i can think of of older power metal...or perhaps Stratovarius) or new school (Sonata Arctica, Dragonforce)?
RiceMonster
07-03-2005, 10:25 PM
I think I'd lean a bit towards the newer side, but I quite like them both.
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-03-2005, 10:26 PM
Crappy crappy reality tv...it should burn in hell.
Here brings up an interesting question...which is better, old school power metal (Helloween...only example i can think of of older power metal...or perhaps Stratovarius) or new school (Sonata Arctica, Dragonforce)?
I think alot of the newer breed dont have their own voice in the genre like the older groups did, but the ones who do have improved on the originators.
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-03-2005, 10:26 PM
new page...better ask again hehe
Anyone like Drakkar? Great band from Italy, very impressive i thought.
RiceMonster
07-03-2005, 10:30 PM
I've never heard Drakkar. What are they like?
Shattered_Future
07-03-2005, 10:32 PM
new page...better ask again hehe
Anyone like Drakkar? Great band from Italy, very impressive i thought.
Yea, sorry bout just going over your topic...
Uploads? I try to get all the power metal i can.
RiceMonster
07-03-2005, 10:35 PM
I've recently realized my black metal obsession has been distracting me from the power metal scene. :(
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-03-2005, 10:42 PM
I've never heard Drakkar. What are they like?
they remind me alot of Rhapsody in their orcehstration sense and Adiago, but overall have more of the harsh viking approach than the fantasy aspect, alot of similatities but differnet at the same time. Worth checking out for sure, they only have one album under their belt and its around $15 on cdnow.com . great musicianship and uplifting choruses, not the best but something new besides Guardian and Strato hehe.
RiceMonster
07-03-2005, 10:47 PM
Sounds pretty cool; I'll have to check them out. I'm in need of new power metal bands.
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-03-2005, 10:49 PM
i try and find a new one as often as possible, but i think im running short on them lol.
Shattered_Future
07-03-2005, 10:50 PM
I still got a buttload of bands i want to check out.
Lack of funds prevents me from doing that, though. :upset:
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-04-2005, 05:03 AM
^^
Pizza Delivery tips keep get getting a few cds a week :) spoiled single child whos mom pays for his college, hey...im not complaing
Steerpike
07-04-2005, 05:06 AM
Giving tours of campus might get me the side cash I need to buy more CDs. For now, I have to pinch every penny of my paychecks to ensure that I have enough money for while I'm at college.
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-04-2005, 05:07 AM
if your ever in the southern part of Missouri doing a show and ill be sure to see ya :) i go to school there.
Steerpike
07-04-2005, 05:10 AM
I doubt I'll ever be there. I'm East Coast and kind of stuck there.
Lord Abortion
07-04-2005, 08:45 AM
I think alot of the newer breed dont have their own voice in the genre like the older groups did, but the ones who do have improved on the originators.
old school PM would be counted as Iced earth and blind guardian I suppose so I'm right alongside that, I am of course a huge 'force and sonata fan too, so I like a nice mix of old and new PM
Shattered_Future
07-04-2005, 10:23 AM
^^
Pizza Delivery tips keep get getting a few cds a week :) spoiled single child whos mom pays for his college, hey...im not complaing
/not old enough to get a REAL job... :upset:
RiceMonster
07-04-2005, 11:06 AM
old school PM would be counted as Iced earth and blind guardian I suppose so I'm right alongside that, I am of course a huge 'force and sonata fan too, so I like a nice mix of old and new PM
Dragonforce is the main reason why I said I'd lean more towards new power metal. :p *Dragonforce fanboy*
But there were also the bands like Rhapsody and Nightwish that swayed my decision as well.
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-05-2005, 11:39 AM
^^^
**** right!!! Dragonforce are one of the best!!!!!!!!! however i can go from Sonata to Helloween or Heaven's Gate in a heartbeat, so either or i am happy....as long as its power metal i will love it :)
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-05-2005, 11:40 AM
I just got one of the newer albums by the german 80's group Nightmare and its defiently more powerful than their older work which was more like motorhead, anvil, tank, etc...blah!
shadow_stalker
07-05-2005, 11:58 AM
old school PM would be counted as Iced earth and blind guardian I suppose so I'm right alongside that, I am of course a huge 'force and sonata fan too, so I like a nice mix of old and new PM
Lord abortion we still going to see dragonforce in september?
Taste_My_Scythe
07-05-2005, 03:36 PM
I still got a buttload of bands i want to check out.
Lack of funds prevents me from doing that, though. :upset:
Same here. I was at the music store today, and I was just itching to buy a Cradle of Filth cd (I'm hooked now) and the Manntis album. But I can't. :upset:
Crappy crappy reality tv...it should burn in hell.
Here brings up an interesting question...which is better, old school power metal (Helloween...only example i can think of of older power metal...or perhaps Stratovarius) or new school (Sonata Arctica, Dragonforce)?
Well, I haven't heard Helloween, so I can't judge by that. I absolutely love Stratovarius and I do like Sonata Arctica (yay for Finlandia!) but I think Dragonforce is a little on the cheesy side. I would have to say whichever side Stratovarius is on. They are amazing.
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-05-2005, 04:07 PM
I own literally hundreds of power metal albums and i can honeslty say that Stratovarius and Blind Guardian (any more popular band) are still my favourites :) never ending joy from those albums, timeless music right there.
The Buttloaves
07-05-2005, 04:14 PM
Anyone ever heard of Mob Rules? I don't know if they would be considered power metal but it's the closest thing I have. Here's an MP3 of one of their songs called "Speed of Life" (http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1G7SPR8J6UFW22TPXN3GQY98HD) I don't like them too much. There's only like 2 songs on the whole album I like.
FrailandBedazzled1979
07-05-2005, 04:15 PM
^^^^
they are alright and just alright, nothing to special...i have their album "among the gods" and "hallowed be thy name" and both have their moments but nothing that really sticks out as KILLER power metal.
Lord Abortion
07-05-2005, 05:24 PM
Lord abortion we still going to see dragonforce in september?
of course we ****ing are, GET ON BASTARD MSN
I wouldn't miss the oppertunity to see dragonforce if you removed my arms and legs and I had to crawl to liverpool like a large snake...
Shattered_Future
07-05-2005, 05:31 PM
Ok, this may be against the rules...buuuuut...
Would anybody care to upload either some Blind Guardian albums (whichever you think best) or Ecliptica by Sonata Arctica?
He/She/They who do this will be eternally dubbed as "thine awesomeness"
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