The War Council Of Power Metal Arcana

[Lord Tim]

Nocturnal Rites - Afterlife ... KILLER album! Speedy, downtuned, aggressive but melodic power metal with excellent vocals!

Vanishing Point - Tangled In Dream ... good album, melodic metal with slight prog and power elements. Good hooks in the songs, but a little inconsistent production-wise in place. Solid album, though.

:)

[CaptainWaits]

Nocturnal Rites - Afterlife ... KILLER album! Speedy, downtuned, aggressive but melodic power metal with excellent vocals!

Vanishing Point - Tangled In Dream ... good album, melodic metal with slight prog and power elements. Good hooks in the songs, but a little inconsistent production-wise in place. Solid album, though.

:)
Greatly appreciate the advice:)

Who are the two comparable too, Band wise??

[Lord Tim]

Nocturnal Rites... ****, that's hard. Think of a raspy style singer a bit like Tony Martin or some of Mamsteen's early vocalists, music which is speedy like Gamma Ray with the same kind of hooks but a heavy Arch Enemy style production and crunch. Great stuff!

VP... Hmm... again, really hard to describe. They toured with Sonata Arctica quite a few years ago (before disappearing off the planet for about 3 years) and that match was fairly good, although they're not as speedy as SA and the vocals are much lower. I couldn't really think of a band off-hand they sound like. Dungeon did quite a few shows with them and that music just always reminds me of them more than anyone else, so I don't know if I'd be the best person to ask, to be honest!

EDIT: They'd likely have some samples up at http://www.vanishing-point.com.au I'd say!

[Lord Abortion]

Man, I love Sonata Arctica...

I'm seeing Dragonforce, Edguy and Sabaton tomorrow.

****in' metal!!

[Lord Tim]

Edguy! \m/

I miss those guys! :(

[Stoic]

Omen \m/
:D

[Shattered_Future]

Man, I love Sonata Arctica...

I'm seeing Dragonforce, Edguy and Sabaton tomorrow.

****in' metal!!

You deserve to die for being English. Seriously. :mad:

Either you die, or tell some of these bands to come here.

[Stoic]

we greekies get Manowar and Rhapsody in March ;)

[Lord Abortion]

And Blind Guardian :upset:

[Shattered_Future]

Alright, that settles it. Soon as I can, I'm moving to Europe.

[Stoic]

:eek: we get Blind Guardian?!?!?!? WTF?!?!

/searches


Nothing :upset: Damn you Ollie, you play with my pain :mad:

/cries blood tears

[Lord Abortion]

I thought they would have gone to Greece?

sorry dude, I took it as read they would.

[Stormrider]

We Canadians get Blind Guardian :)
2007 though...hope it doesnt get cancelled...

Im realy liking whats on my lil Power Metal cd I made..

[Josh]

anyone here know Steerpike's email? he wanted me to email him some stuff off the new Edguy album, but i don't know his address.

[Shattered_Future]

We Canadians get Blind Guardian :)
2007 though...hope it doesnt get cancelled...

Im realy liking whats on my lil Power Metal cd I made..

Just curious...Stoic, is Blind Guardian your favorite band ?

2007?????

We maybe, MAYBE, MAYBE might have a chance of going then. Friends should be old enough to have their full licenses.

[Stormrider]

2007?????

We maybe, MAYBE, MAYBE might have a chance of going then. Friends should be old enough to have their full licenses.

http://www.blind-guardian.com/new_version/popups/news.php3?news_id=240

Stoic gave me that in the BG thread a little while ago. It does say its a rough schedule though...

NP Dragon Force - Soldiers of the Wasteland

[Josh]

NP Dragon Force - Soldiers of the Wasteland
hopefully, they're gonna play that tomorrow night. can't wait.

[Shattered_Future]

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG BLIND GUARDIAN IS COMING TO THE US!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:

/begins waiting/hunt for tickets

[Stormrider]

hopefully, they're gonna play that tomorrow night. can't wait.

I should have checked these guys out earlier...im realy liking them. I was surprise to see they only had 3 albums though.

/is a Dragon Force noob.

[Trev]

They played it at Manchester, and blimey, it's brilliant live.

[Stoic]

damn BG, they're going to Turkey and not coming here :mad:

[Josh]

I should have checked these guys out earlier...im realy liking them. I was surprise to see they only had 3 albums though.

/is a Dragon Force noob.
IMO, the first 2 albums are better. i really like the third, but it's just not as good.

[Trev]

I agree. I also found that the choruses in Inhuman Rampage arn't as catchy.

[Stormrider]

IMO, the first 2 albums are better. i really like the third, but it's just not as good.

Then I'll start by getting one of the 2 first then...

[Josh]

I agree. I also found that the choruses in Inhuman Rampage arn't as catchy.
i would agree on that, it's not so much of a sing-along album as the other 2.
Then I'll start by getting one of the 2 first then...
i'd go with either really, they're both awesome. although Sonic Firestorm does have Soldiers of the wasteland on it, which makes it better.

[Stormrider]

i'd go with either really, they're both awesome. although Sonic Firestorm does have Soldiers of the wasteland on it, which makes it better.

I was just looking at that :p I'll try to get that one.

NP - Dragon Force - Fury of the Storm

[Shattered_Future]

Best song off of that album, methinks. :)

My big gripe with Dragonforce is, while excellent, they essentially released the same album three times. Their gimmick is good, but they're gonna need to start making a few large changes to their sound.

[IheartSP]

Best song off of that album, methinks. :)

My big gripe with Dragonforce is, while excellent, they essentially released the same album three times. Their gimmick is good, but they're gonna need to start making a few large changes to their sound.
And they released the same song about 8 times on each album, with a few that are slightly different...

[Lord Abortion]

I agree. I also found that the choruses in Inhuman Rampage arn't as catchy.
That's important. It's one of the most important parts of PM for me.

[IheartSP]

The one song I heard off Inhuman Rampage was at least twice as good as anything I had heard from their previous releases. I have long been an extreme Dragonforce hater, that song I could actually tolerate.

[Steerpike]

:lol: :lol:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A302H26EC680VC/ref=cm_pdp_reviews_see_all/002-1328670-4578413

Thought some of you might find this guy entertaining. What a poseur.

[Lord Abortion]

I was gradually building up the rage...then I actually shouted "you cunt" at the computer when he gave a 1* review to liquid tension experiment...he probably likes ****ing Pantera... what a gayboy.

[Steerpike]

I think it's adorable how he thinks power metal is a shallow genre with Blind Guardian being the only exception.

Let's face it, this is just a kid trying to out-extreme everybody else.

[Lord Abortion]

I think it's adorable how he thinks power metal is a shallow genre with Blind Guardian being the only exception.

Let's face it, this is just a kid trying to out-extreme everybody else.
Then he reviews something wicked with 5 stars?
what the hell?

this makes no sense!

hahah... he talks rubbish about cheesy metal, and gives a Dio album 5 stars?! I love Dio, but you know...

[IheartSP]

:lol: :lol:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A302H26EC680VC/ref=cm_pdp_reviews_see_all/002-1328670-4578413

Thought some of you might find this guy entertaining. What a poseur.
:lol:

That guys needs to go take Metal 101. He obviously doesn't realize metal is rooted in Classical, making Power Metal the most real metal there is. I can understand if he thinks Power Metal can be a bit overformulated but most of the bands he reviewed were some of the more unique ones. He seems to hate Classical music of any form, which I think in metal is the greatest thing you can incorporate. He thinks Rhapsody and Dimmu Borgir suck, I think they are two of the greatest bands to walk this earth because of their purely orgasmic use of symphonies.

Did anyone find it odd that he likes Blind Guardian? I can see how he likes Iced Earth because he seemed to like Thrash too, but Blind Guardian somehow gets 5 stars. :lol: Also in his world, either you suck or you kick ***, His only ratings are 1 star for totally anus, 2 for terrible, and 5 for awesome. He confuses me greatly becuase the bands he does like are all pretty good, with a few that are really good. It seems he is just an ignorant bastard who coincidentally likes good music and doesn't actually know enough about it to realize that Power Metal is just as good.

[Steerpike]

Like I said, I think he's trying to look as tr00 and extreme as possible. Hence his worship of Death and hatred for power metal.

Or maybe he just hates power metal because Manowar's album covers make his pants go crazy and that scares him.

[IheartSP]

I think he just doesn't know anything about music, music theory, and its history.

[Steerpike]

Eh... It's more fun to make fun of his masculinity (or lack thereof).

[Lord Abortion]

Yet he hates Cannibal Corpse and Morbid Angel?!
he has some consistency issues...

I know some people don't like CC, but any DM fan will tell you that Altars of madness is one of the greatest DM albums to ever be recorded.

[IheartSP]

Yeah that's option #2 I guess :lol:

[Steerpike]

Notice that he rips on Cannibal Corpse for their lyrical themes, but avoids any mention of Death's debut album which has music and lyrics that could make Chris Barnes **** himself.

[Lord Abortion]

He's an idiot... he didn't even review Scream Bloody Gore.

everyone knows Death were at their best and most influential before they went all wierd.

[IheartSP]

I've never read any Death lyrics. I hate Cannibal Corpse with a passion because their music and lyrics sound like they were written by giggly little 12 year olds. I'll check out those Death lyrics for a laugh though. I only have Crystal Mountain, nothing really gory about that album.

[Stoic]

but any DM fan will tell you that Altars of madness is one of the greatest DM albums to ever be recorded.

>_>

[Steerpike]

He's an idiot... he didn't even review Scream Bloody Gore.

everyone knows Death were at their best and most influential before they went all wierd.

That debatable. I personally enjoyed their later work best myself, but that's neither here nor there.

Point is, twatbucket there is a classic case of poseur.

[IheartSP]

I just read a few songs off Scream Bloody Gore. Certainly more well written in terms of lyrics than Cannibal Corpse, not even close to as gross. I Cum Blood almost made me boot, this didn't even move my stomach at all. From the tabs I've seen the music is just as simple and boring as cannibal corpse tho. I can only take so much tremolo picking and powerchords in the chromatic scale.

[Lord Abortion]

That debatable. I personally enjoyed their later work best myself, but that's neither here nor there.

Point is, twatbucket there is a classic case of poseur.
Yeah, I take the influential part from basically it being the blueprint for alot of the Norwegian Black metal scene's early guitar work.
Nocturno culto of Darkthrone based his entire guitar sound on that album.

[JausmetalJ]

And here.

Dragonforce SERIOUSLY needs to come to f'ckin Aust. NOW!

Like THIS SECOND!!

Woah...
this thread got another half page...

This was in relation to Shattered Future on page 142

[Steerpike]

I just read a few songs off Scream Bloody Gore. Certainly more well written in terms of lyrics than Cannibal Corpse, not even close to as gross. I Cum Blood almost made me boot, this didn't even move my stomach at all. From the tabs I've seen the music is just as simple and boring as cannibal corpse tho. I can only take so much tremolo picking and powerchords in the chromatic scale.

Granted, it's not a very impressive album from a technical standpoint. But I heard one or two songs off of it, and it's pretty intense nevertheless.

Yeah, I take the influential part from basically it being the blueprint for alot of the Norwegian Black metal scene's early guitar work.
Nocturno culto of Darkthrone based his entire guitar sound on that album.

I'm thinking more on how they were able to transcend the sterotypes of the genre and re-write the rules, but anyway...

I didn't notice this before, but the poseur referred to Children of Bodom as death metal. :lol:

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I really like SBG. it's got alot of excellent riffs on it.



I'm thinking more on how they were able to transcend the sterotypes of the genre and re-write the rules, but anyway...
Eh...I'm quite happy with my genre stereotypes...

the poseur referred to Children of Bodom as death metal.
:lol:

oh dear...that's like an intelligence test, and he failed miserably.

[IheartSP]

Where I live the Bodom fan intelligence test is what other bands you listen to. 90% of the Bodom fans other favorites are Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, and As I Lay Dying. The other 10% is Stratovarius, Kalmah, Wintersun, etc. I think you can all see why I hate this place....

[CaptainWaits]

Nocturnal Rites... ****, that's hard. Think of a raspy style singer a bit like Tony Martin or some of Mamsteen's early vocalists, music which is speedy like Gamma Ray with the same kind of hooks but a heavy Arch Enemy style production and crunch. Great stuff!

VP... Hmm... again, really hard to describe. They toured with Sonata Arctica quite a few years ago (before disappearing off the planet for about 3 years) and that match was fairly good, although they're not as speedy as SA and the vocals are much lower. I couldn't really think of a band off-hand they sound like. Dungeon did quite a few shows with them and that music just always reminds me of them more than anyone else, so I don't know if I'd be the best person to ask, to be honest!

EDIT: They'd likely have some samples up at http://www.vanishing-point.com.au I'd say!
Thanks a bunch again man!:thumb:

My desicions been made...

[Riva]

I didn't notice this before, but the poseur referred to Children of Bodom as death metal. :lol:

I noticed that as well. What a retard.

And they released the same song about 8 times on each album, with a few that are slightly different...

I'll say it again, when I hear COB, I hear the same elements again and again.

anyone here know Steerpike's email? he wanted me to email him some stuff off the new Edguy album, but i don't know his address.

atomsho at gmail.com

Alright, so I'm looking for a little help...

My local CD store has a few CD's in of bands where I've heard of the band, but haven't actually had a listening experience with the band. So I'm asking for your help! They are...

Nocturnal Rites - Afterlife
Vanishing Point - ??? (something "Dream")

Any good? And what are they comparable too??

I have that album (Afterlife) at my local store. I should pick it up too.

Man, I love Sonata Arctica...

I'm seeing Dragonforce, Edguy and Sabaton tomorrow.

****in' metal!!

Bastard.

[IheartSP]

Now now Riva, I don't want no trouble.

[Shattered_Future]

Where I live the Bodom fan intelligence test is what other bands you listen to. 90% of the Bodom fans other favorites are Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, and As I Lay Dying. The other 10% is Stratovarius, Kalmah, Wintersun, etc. I think you can all see why I hate this place....

Man, 4, possibly 6 out of 1500 here even know what actual metal is. You don't have it half bad.

[IheartSP]

Did I say 90? I meant 99 lol.

[Shattered_Future]

Still, at least people near you LIKE metalish stuff. Around here, there's NOTHING.

[Deth]

I have the token kids who blast Atreyu all day. I think there's about a dozen kids in the school of 5000 who would explain the difference between death metal and power metal.

[Shattered_Future]

I think here, once again, 4 people can distinguish between power and death metal. And it was pretty much all because of me. :lol:

[Deth]

Same with me. I'm the sole provider of power metal into that school.

[Steerpike]

Around here there's a few guys who like Children of Bodom and Opeth. But sadly, none of the womenfolk are with it. Most of them prefer pop or country.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

There a few people on my area who like metal. One of my friends is into power metal, and one gu who used to be into heaps of metal, but listens/plays mainly to hardcore now. He still enjoys a metal though. He went to Dungeon with me.

[IheartSP]

In my school of 800 me and my friends who I've exposed are the only people who can tell the difference between any sort of metal.

[Josh]

In my school of 800 me and my friends who I've exposed are the only people who can tell the difference between any sort of metal.
most of my school listen to pop-rock, or dance crap (friggin chavs) and probably haven't even heard of bands like mayhem, emperor, darkthrone, edguy, sabaton, etc. i don't listen to black metal or death metal much, but at least i know that the genres exist.

[IheartSP]

most of my school listen to pop-rock, or dance crap (friggin chavs) and probably haven't even heard of bands like mayhem, emperor, darkthrone, edguy, sabaton, etc. i don't listen to black metal or death metal much, but at least i know that the genres exist.
I wish I had never heard of Mayhem :lol:

My drummer goes to another school and over there you find a lot of extreme metalheads. The closest any of them come to Power Metal is Bodom, but I got my drummer into all sorts of stuff. A friend of mine from another town was into similar stuff but I got him into Blind Guardian and Wintersun and plenty of other stuff. We need to devise a pay it forward system to try and spread metal knowledge across the world.

[MetalOz]

I wanted to thank whoever was promoting Thy Majestie, I picked up Hastings 1066, very good stuff.
I also got Dream Evil - The Book of Heavy Metal and I must say that they have the cheesiest power metal lyrics ever!

[Steerpike]

Still, it's not nearly as bad as dealing with the uber-poseurs. I've had to deal with people who thought Iron Maiden was hair metal, that Slipknot was death metal, and that Evancescence was Goth metal.

[Stoic]

^Now this is scary...

[JausmetalJ]

Still, it's not nearly as bad as dealing with the uber-poseurs. I've had to deal with people who thought Iron Maiden was hair metal, that Slipknot was death metal, and that Evancescence was Goth metal.
I'd be the first to admit I know very little about explaining genres to someone, and moreso, to say I have heard very little metal compared to you guys. But bloody hell, If someone I knew claimed slipknot were death metal, I'd be afraid I wouldn't be able to control my fist.

Also: http://ultimatemetal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4453401&postcount=201

That sorta thing REALLY gets my goat (I don't really own a goat)

[Lord Abortion]

Still, it's not nearly as bad as dealing with the uber-poseurs. I've had to deal with people who thought Iron Maiden was hair metal, that Slipknot was death metal, and that Evancescence was Goth metal.
Ugh.

We should send out a metal Pamphlet or something.

[IheartSP]

I have heard people call Iron Maiden "screamo" :lol:

They see my Number of the Beast shirt, assume they are a really heavy band, and don't know the proper term for bands that "scream" even though most metal doesn't have what I'd call screaming...so they call it screamo. I thought that was like the most hilarious thing I'd ever heard.

[Hells Bells]

Yet he hates Cannibal Corpse and Morbid Angel?!
he has some consistency issues...


Consistency issues?
Yeeeeah...I think a worse example of that of that would be him giving Number of the Beast a five star rating, and then saying

If you're sick of sugary bands like Iron maiden and Helloween who hide their complete lack of badassness behind a thin veil of psuedo artistry...

[Steerpike]

He's the kind of guy you have the biological urge to beat up for his lunch money.

[Lord Abortion]

Mmm...Lunch money.

I want my Human Fortress album!

[Steerpike]

By the way, Ollie, how was the show other than the annoying moshers? What were the sets like?

[Lord Abortion]

Pretty great.

Sabaton had

*unknown song
Metal Machine
Primo Victoria

Edguy

Catch of the century
Mysteria
Vain Glory opera
Babylon
Lavatory love machine
Superheroes
King of fools

Dragonforce had

My spirit will go on
Fury of the storm
Storming the burning Fields
Once in a lifetime
Trail of broken hearts
Blackfire
Soldiers of the wasteland
Through the fire and the flames
........................................
Heart of a dragon
Valley of the Damned


That's about all I recall of 'forces set.
I'll work it out later

[Steerpike]

Sounds like an awesome show.

Speaking of Superheroes, I just saw the video for that. One of the weirdest damn things I've ever seen, but god it was funny.

I still can't believe some of the reviews Rocket Ride is getting lately. From the tracks I have, it doesn't sound like it's as good as Hellfire Club, but it still sounds great. I think it's refreshing to have a metal band that knows how to have fun and laugh.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, shame I didn't know Babylon before they played it, the only one I couldn't sing along to!

[Steerpike]

I would have loved to see the crowd also getting into Primo Victoria or Metal Machine. Edguy and Sabaton always have great choruses.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I was one of the only ones to know the words to the Sabaton stuff.
There were more than I expected.

I also met Sam Totman in the street beforehand. He looked hung over and was looking for an off-licence. :lol:

NP-Iced Earth-Slave to the Dark.

[Stoic]

Yeah, I was one of the only ones to know the words to the Sabaton stuff.
There were more than I expected.


The really good thing is when an underground band plays at a small club and there are about 50 or 60 people but they're all huge fans of the band. True metal brothers united \m/

EDIT
Does anyone want a couple of Omen songs? Being the only one who likes traditional metal makes me feel like an outsider :-\

[Josh]

Yeah, I was one of the only ones to know the words to the Sabaton stuff.
There were more than I expected.

I also met Sam Totman in the street beforehand. He looked hung over and was looking for an off-licence. :lol:

NP-Iced Earth-Slave to the Dark.
it was fairly funny meeting Sam. he looked wasted when he was on-stage though.
didn't DF do Operation Ground and Pound as well?

The really good thing is when an underground band plays at a small club and there are about 50 or 60 people but they're all huge fans of the band. True metal brothers united \m/
there was probably over 1000 people there, and a lot of them obviously were just going to see DF do their new stuff, which they actually seemed to keep to a minimum. IMO, they were much better on their older songs.

[Shattered_Future]

That was kinda like the Sonata Arctica concert...there was a minimum of people there (um...400, maybe, possibly more), yet everyone knew the words to every song. Makes you feel more like the band.

Traditional metal = goooood.

anemiate@yahoo.com, if you got a minute. :)

[Cocaine]

I've been listening to Metal Storm Radio a lot lately and they seem to almost exclusively play Power Metal. If you're ever looking for new music I highly recommend checking it out...

http://www.gargoyledawn.com/msr/

[Kurrpt]

im out till monday fellas


peace

[IheartSP]

That was kinda like the Sonata Arctica concert...there was a minimum of people there (um...400, maybe, possibly more), yet everyone knew the words to every song. Makes you feel more like the band.

Traditional metal = goooood.

anemiate@yahoo.com, if you got a minute. :)
Wow man this is sweet, I wish this was on FM radio.

[Shattered_Future]

Wow man this is sweet, I wish this was on FM radio.

Pretty sure you quoted the wrong post there. :lol:

Relating to Stoic's uploads: I was suprised. Quite good...

[Stoic]

Thank you for the feedback. I'm really digging american heavy/power at the moment :)

[Riva]

It's a shame Sabaton didn't play more songs, actually.

You're quite lucky, you Englishmen.

[Stoic]

It's a shame Sabaton didn't play more songs, actually.


I dont like the way support bands are treated in such events :(

[Apocalyptic Raids]

That is what is stopping me from getting my tickets to Exodus, supporting The Haunted :-|

[Stoic]

EXODUS SUPPORTING THE HAUNTED?!?! WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO?!?! :eek:

[deathscreamingsheep]

I dont like the way support bands are treated in such events :(

For the Dragonforce gig last night Edguy were treated exceptionally well. In fact, in the gig (sold out Astoria for a power metal band?) I believe Edguy got a bunch of new fans- including me.

[Stormrider]

I believe Edguy got a bunch of new fans- including me.

I've just gotten into them recently. Good stuff.

Stoic, why dont you go in the BG thread...its getting lonely :( :p

NP Blind Guardian - Blood Tears

[Apocalyptic Raids]

EXODUS SUPPORTING THE HAUNTED?!?! WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO?!?! :eek:
I know, I know :(

I don't want to pay $55 to see Exodus play what will probably be a 30-40 min set.

I am hoping, since my trip to America aligns with Exodus' touring around the USA, that I might get lucky, and catch them in New York, Ft. Lauderdale or Miami. I already know I'm in San Francisco a week too early to see them in the Bay-Area. :(

[Steerpike]

If you're in San Francisco, you might get lucky and be able to catch a Slough Feg gig.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Ah, that would be awesome.

/votes Slough Feg on Spotlight poll ;)

[Trev]

It's a shame Sabaton didn't play more songs, actually.

You're quite lucky, you Englishmen.
Yeah. Plus they started 10 minutes after doors had opened, by the time we had finished buying t-shirts they had finished, missed them completely. I was very much looking forward to seeing Sabaton too. :( Edguy and Dragonforce more than made up for it though.

[Stoic]

Damn you english people you get blind guardian too! :angry:

Everyone except for the greekies...
/cries blood tears once more

[Hells Bells]

I dont like the way support bands are treated in such events :(

Around here, regardless of whether the support band is good or bad, people just stand there with their arms crossed, if they even did show up for their set. It must be SO awkward to play in conditions like that :/

[Stoic]

Around here, regardless of whether the support band is good or bad, people just stand there with their arms crossed, if they even did show up for their set. It must be SO awkward to play in conditions like that :/

EXACTLY! sometimes people here even throw bottles...

[Hells Bells]

Throw bottles?? I hope they got kicked out...those losers.

[Poofy 666]

Throw bottles?? I hope they got kicked out...those losers.
...unless they are directed at Trivium :p

[Hells Bells]

Nah, it just makes you look like a tool. Trivium is pretty annoying though, I don't mind mosh pits, but I hate it when bands try to get people to start them, like they kept doing when I saw them with bodom and Amon Amarth.

[Shattered_Future]

Yea, support groups often don't get the respect they deserve. Unless it's a Queensryche tribute band. :lol:

Na, they were ok...

I dunno, though, a show like Opeth/Dark Tranquillity/Devin Townsend should probably have a good amount of fans for each.

[Stormrider]

EXACTLY! sometimes people here even throw bottles...

I would feel somewhat embarrased if i would be in a crowd that did that...

[G_Mac07]

I need to give Gallowglass a listen. Any recommendations as to where I should start?

[Riva]

I need to give Gallowglass a listen. Any recommendations as to where I should start?

I'll recommend their first album, Legends From Now And Nevermore I like it a bit better. If you happen to see the limited edition second albumHeavenseeker, though, you should buy it also, as it comes with a DVD. Seriously, both albums are classy, top-quality power metal.

[G_Mac07]

Cool. Sounds like I can't go wrong then. Thanks.

[Iron Bars]

I'll recommend their first album, Legends From Now And Nevermore I like it a bit better. If you happen to see the limited edition second albumHeavenseeker, though, you should buy it also, as it comes with a DVD. Seriously, both albums are classy, top-quality power metal.

How does the new Galloglas album compare to the old one? I really like Legends from now and nevermore but since my buget has shrunk to near zero latey I haven't been able to get it yet.

[MetalOz]

Has anyone heard Savage Circus? It's the vocalist and bassist from Persuader, the drummer from Blind Guardian, and the guitarist from Iron Savior. This link is from their site, it's a downloadable single:
http://rapidshare.de/files/4596242/SC_online_single.zip.html

[Shattered_Future]

For BGs drummer, do you mean Stauch?

Hell, I'll download it anyway...

[MetalOz]

For BGs drummer, do you mean Stauch?

Hell, I'll download it anyway...

Yep, he is no longer in BG... The other guys are still in their bands.. I think it is actually guitarist from Persuader playing bass in Savage Circus...

[Riva]

How does the new Galloglas album compare to the old one? I really like Legends from now and nevermore but since my buget has shrunk to near zero latey I haven't been able to get it yet.

The new one is heavier, but I feel it is less flowing. Both excellent efforts though.

[Stoic]

Savage Circus sound exactly like early Blind Guardian. Damn, even the vocalist sounds exactly like Hansi. Excuse me but I really dont see the point in this band. :(

[Lord Tim]

It's so frustrating for me to hear Savage Circus.

On one hand, if I'd never heard Blind Guardian at all, I'd be absolutely soiling my shorts over them - I'm not a massive fan of the new direction BG has taken, to be honest, and I absolutely love their older stuff, so any band who plays that kind of music is gonna make me jump up and down and smile...

On the other hand, since I HAVE heard BG before, I can hear entire sections on the SC album which are directly taken from BG albums, so much so that I've found that I'll sit there trying to match up the part it was stolen from rather than enjoying it for what it is.

I reallly hope the next album has more of their own identity rather than BG's identity from 1992...

[Stoic]

The Lord has spoken \m/

[Deth]

I like the new direction :(.

Anyway, I was wondering what the first power metal album was. My guess is Manowar's Battle Hymns, but if a more knowledgable person here could tell me, I would appreciate it.

[Stormrider]

I like the new direction :(.

Me too.

I want to know what the ressemblance between old BG and that band is...i'll look into 1 or 2 songs. Eventualy...

[Apocalyptic Raids]

If the new direction means A Night At The Opera, then I don't like it. :)

[Lord Tim]

I dunno... BG to me was always Tales.. and Somewhere Far Beyond - when I heard Journey Through The Dark for the first time, I nearly fell off my chair. ****ing. Awesome.

I admire what they're trying to do and it's certainly impressive, no doubt, but it just hasn't got the fire and power of old BG for me.

Each to their own, though! :)

[JausmetalJ]

Hey Tim, I remember seeing something about this on the Dungeon/Lord forums...
Around here, regardless of whether the support band is good or bad, people just stand there with their arms crossed, if they even did show up for their set. It must be SO awkward to play in conditions like that :/
Whats your view on it?

I remember when I saw Dungeon (there was about 60-80 people there) but most people were standing around, drinking untill you came on.

This was at screamers with Anarion and P: DD

[Lord Tim]

HAHA!

We haven't had a set of people doing that since we first started to play in Sydney and yeah, it sucks. You have to work 3 times as hard to win them over... and sometimes, there's nothing you can do.

Oh, actually... I forgot about our gig immediately after we left the Megadeth tour in Europe. Instead of continuing on with 'Deth to Thesoloniki in Greece, we returned to Germany to repay a favour to a band called Gun Barrell who lent us some gear when we played one of the German dates with Megadeth. What we DIDN'T know was that it was being held in a junior school hall and there was a crowd of about 20 people all up... and we had all of 6 people standing there watching us (who had no idea who we were) with their arms crossed waiting for Gun Barrell to come on - turns out they were friends and relatives of the band and we were just holding up the night for them! *sigh*

(Before anyone gets the wrong idea, Gun Barrell are AWESOME guys and they do some pretty cool stuff, so I'm definitely not ragging on them!)

Yeah, so after a week of playing to 15,000+ people, playing to 6 bored people the very next night sucked a very big unwashed ***! HAHA!

I do feel bad for some of the supports Dungeon's had over the last few years. Some of the crowds we got were often pretty biased towards us and didn't want to give the openers a go. Some bands deserved it, though (some bands were pretty terrible on some bills), but others I felt really bad for. Thankfully that was more the exception than the rule...

[Stoic]

^haha, heavy metal stories! :D

To be honest I expected you to say that Dungeon were not treated good enough in Greece as well since people here were pissed because of christian Mustaine demanding the cancellation of Rotting Christ's appearance. I dont know why but I thought Dungeon were some sort of christian metal band :lol:

I dunno... BG to me was always Tales.. and Somewhere Far Beyond - when I heard Journey Through The Dark for the first time, I nearly fell off my chair. ****ing. Awesome.

I admire what they're trying to do and it's certainly impressive, no doubt, but it just hasn't got the fire and power of old BG for me.

Each to their own, though! :)

Good ol' Journey Through the Dark! I'm afraid that most people here do not enjoy this album and this song in particular as much as I do and I cant see why!

I'M ON MY JOURNEY THROUGH THE DAAARK
I'M ON MY JOURNEY THROUGH THE DAAARK!!!!!
\m/

[Stormrider]

I think the only song from Somewhere Far Beyond that I heard is Ashes to Ashes. I pretty much only remember the chorus though.

But in an HMV, last time I went it was there, and I realy wanted to get it...I was short a lil on money :(

NP Blind Guardian - Into the Storm

[Shattered_Future]

Journey Through The Dark is the best song on SFB, I think...

I dunno, though, I love BG's new direction. ANATO is seriously one of the best cds I've ever heard...it's full of what makes Blind Guardian great, and adds so much more.

Then again, I'm a sucker for orchestrated metal music.

[Stormrider]

Journey Through The Dark is the best song on SFB, I think...

I dunno, though, I love BG's new direction. ANATO is seriously one of the best cds I've ever heard...it's full of what makes Blind Guardian great, and adds so much more.

Then again, I'm a sucker for orchestrated metal music.

This for me depends. In some cases, the orchestra adds so much more and makes it better, and in others the orchestra is cheesy sounding and I dont realy like it. Example of cheesy sounding orchestra: In Stratovarious' Elements Part 1. The orchestra is very cheey IMO.

As for ANATO, the lyrics may be cheesy, I have never realy looked at the lyrcis so I dont know, but the orchestra is not cheesy IMO. Maybe a tiny bit but its definatly not overboard. It adds to the music in a good way.

NP Blind Guardian - Blood Tears

[shadow_stalker]

The new one is heavier, but I feel it is less flowing. Both excellent efforts though.
I miss the orchestral effects, though they were still used in Heavenseeker they pushed it into the background rather than having it upfront like it was in songs like 'Ancient times' and 'A Wintertale'


NP - Dawn of a new age (got to be one of the best tracks from heavenseeker)

[Lord Tim]

To be honest I expected you to say that Dungeon were not treated good enough in Greece as well since people here were pissed because of christian Mustaine demanding the cancellation of Rotting Christ's appearance. I dont know why but I thought Dungeon were some sort of christian metal band :lol:

HAHA! No, we weren't! :p

And quite the opposite, Dave was awesome to everyone (us, his band, his crew and above all, the fans) for the entire time we were with them. Don't believe the media hype, he's actually a fairly down to earth guy when he's not being "Dave" (which is expected of him to a certain degree). And his beliefs never came into anything at all on the tour at all. He did his thing and provided you kept your thing away from him if it wasn't what he was into, everyone was cool (and we were the same - we didn't like anyone smoking in our band rooms 'cos it screwed with my voice. No one cared if they did, just do it elsewhere).

But yeah, in Greece we were treated awesome (like everywhere on the tour with Megadeth, in fact). We got picked up by a comfy air conditioned bus and shuttled to Megadeth's 5-star hotel, shuttled to the Olympic Volleyball Stadium where the gig was, had massive catering... The crowd was awesome (at least 3000 there, I believe the count was) and we talked to lots of people after the show too... the only crap thing was that we had such a short time there, we couldn't go sight seeing and we were so close to all of the cool stuff we wanted to see in Athens too. :(

[shadow_stalker]

So tim would you say that Air conditioned bus was better than the van that Dungeon got shipped about in when you guys toured japan?

[Lord Tim]

Van? Try Matchbox car! :(

Yes. Just a tad...! :amaze:

[Slapping Penguin]

Yes I am excited. We might get to end up playing Rhaposody's Dawn of Victory of school. See I am the only one at school who really likes metal other than the greats and I have this mate at school who is possible the funniest guy you could meet. And he has an awesome voice not just singing but at imatating voices. He was into a little bit of thrash etc (just the greats and some Morbid Angel and Vader etc) back in the day and really likes alot of metal and rock etc. He is often really good to give music because he will really like anything good in metal that I show him because in his words as long as the tunes are kicking he is happy. Well I showed him Rhapsody as a joke and he pissed pants laughing at how cheesy they were but true to his spirit just enjoyed the cheese (unlike other fag*ots) and said the tunes were rocking. I didn't think I had made a power convert but surley guy who enjoyed for a laugh and a good time pretending to fight dragons. Then he turned to me last night and let out the best Rhapsody impression I have ever heard! He was power metal in that moment \m/ He said we should play some for some good fun. We will dress up and rock out hahaha. (sorry if this story was pointless I was just excited that we might play some great metal!)

[JausmetalJ]

Haha, that would be really cool to play a rhapsody song :p

If only I could sing :/

[Stoic]

well done dommie \m/ :D

[Stormrider]

Savage Circus sound exactly like early Blind Guardian. Damn, even the vocalist sounds exactly like Hansi. Excuse me but I really dont see the point in this band. :(

People in the BG forum seem to be loving it :

http://www.blind-guardian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26375

[Stoic]

Not only people in the BG forum. Still, it's their opinion. I'm with what Timmy said.

[Stormrider]

Yeah, I know. I just wanted you to read that...for some reason.

Can anyone name me a few underground PM bands ? Im trying to expand on my power metal likings.

So far I listen to: Blind Guardian, Iced Earth, Demons and Wizards, Seven Witches, Dragon Force, Edguy, Angra and Sonata Arctica. I know about Hammerfall and Dungeon, just havnt checked them out yet.

Thanks.

EDIT: I askesd in the Recommendations thread...

[Steerpike]

Are you on the mailing list for Slough Feg yet? They're sort of power metal.

[G_Mac07]

I know about Hammerfall and Dungeon, just havnt checked them out yet.

The following pages have samples of Dungeon tracks.
Resurrection (http://www.dungeon.cd/samples_res.html)
A Rise To Power (http://www.dungeon.cd/samples_artp.html)
One Step Beyond (http://www.dungeon.cd/samples_osb.html)

LT, just so your aware, there is a problem with the link to the Netherlife sample on the ARTP page.

LORD just announced thier first gig as well, so people in Sydney should check it out.

[Stormrider]

Are you on the mailing list for Slough Feg yet? They're sort of power metal.

No but, like I said in the BG thread to Stoic (don't know if you read it) I can't take take any samplers until I get my computer.

But I'l definatly check them out.

And thanks, G Mac07.

[Steerpike]

I missed that post.

[Stormrider]

I missed that post.

Its ok. I Hope I get it soon. I'll have lots of things to check out.

[Steerpike]

While I'm thinking of it, anybody seen the video to Edguy's Superheroes yet? It makes no sense, but that just makes it even better.

[Deth]

I'll watch that video now and edit my thoughts in soon.

OMG, that video totally owns. I really don't have any other thoughts about it except it's freaking awesome.

[Thor]

Power metal trading, anyone? :)

[Steerpike]

I'll watch that video now and edit my thoughts in soon.

OMG, that video totally owns. I really don't have any other thoughts about it except it's freaking awesome.

I love the running gag with Tobi chasing the one bunny girl around with a giant butterfly net.

[Stoic]

I love the running gag with Tobi chasing the one bunny girl around with a giant butterfly net.

:amaze:
/looks for the video

[Steerpike]

:amaze:
/looks for the video

Here you go. (http://www.youtube.com/w/Edguy-Superheroes?v=ggpJ47RigeI&search=edguy)

[Phreeck]

Edguy - Crazy Germans!

LAVATORY LOVE MACHINE!

[Stoic]

I'm terribly sorry -I dont mean to offend you Alex- but this is an awful poppy video and song. Such a shame because Tobias's voice is at its best. :(

[Steerpike]

Can't please everybody.

[Deth]

I do have to say though, I was disappointed with the song.

[Shattered_Future]

Urgh, after hearing the greatness that is Mandrake, this let me down...

It's catchy, but it's not Edguy at all.

Video was...what the crap was that? :amaze:

Good looking bunnies though. :cool:

[Steerpike]

Man, I feel lonely. I really like that song.

I certainly don't think Rocket Ride (what I've heard of it anyway) is as good Hellfire Club in terms of their new approach, but it's still a lot better than the crap being shoved down my throat my radio and TV lately.

Personally, I see it as refreshing to have a metal band with such an off-kilter sense of humor. To say that Superheroes is "not Edguy at all" is, to me, unfair. You still hear their signature sound and techniques, and they still wear their influences on their sleeves like they always have.

[IheartSP]

Steerpike in the request music thread I asked for some Savatage and idk if you go in there but I figure it's appropriate to ask here too and i know your a big fan. I want a song that has that hard edge but is also symphonic like Trans-Siberian Orchestra at the same time, if such a thing does exist. From the one songs I've heard (The Price You Pay) they've got that heavy metal sound, but I hear no keyboard in it, and as far as I know Jon Oliva does the writing for both Savatage and TSO, so he must do some symphonic stuff. Could you email me some stuff?

aceshigh6505@gmail.com

[Thor]

NP - Iced Earth "Winter Nights"

This has to be one of the most enjoyable power metal songs that I have heard in a very long time.

[MetalOz]

Man, I feel lonely. I really like that song.

I certainly don't think Rocket Ride (what I've heard of it anyway) is as good Hellfire Club in terms of their new approach, but it's still a lot better than the crap being shoved down my throat my radio and TV lately.

Personally, I see it as refreshing to have a metal band with such an off-kilter sense of humor. To say that Superheroes is "not Edguy at all" is, to me, unfair. You still hear their signature sound and techniques, and they still wear their influences on their sleeves like they always have.


You could take that song, video, the whole sound and vibe that the band has now and go back to 1985 and it would all fit right in nicely...

[Steerpike]

Steerpike in the request music thread I asked for some Savatage and idk if you go in there but I figure it's appropriate to ask here too and i know your a big fan. I want a song that has that hard edge but is also symphonic like Trans-Siberian Orchestra at the same time, if such a thing does exist. From the one songs I've heard (The Price You Pay) they've got that heavy metal sound, but I hear no keyboard in it, and as far as I know Jon Oliva does the writing for both Savatage and TSO, so he must do some symphonic stuff. Could you email me some stuff?

aceshigh6505@gmail.com

I'll send you some uploads tomorrow after the Slough Feg mailing list goes out.

If you want Savatage's more symphonic, rock opera sort of stuff, you need to look into post-HotMK material. I was actually about to do a write-up thread on them now, so I'll explain it better there. It should be up within the hour, I hope.

You could take that song, video, the whole sound and vibe that the band has now and go back to 1985 and it would all fit right in nicely...

Quick question: why does everybody seem to take such sadistic glee in demonizing the 80's?

[MetalOz]

Quick question: why does everybody seem to take such sadistic glee in demonizing the 80's?

I'm not demonizing, I'm Grandpa Oz, oldest Mxer, I grew up in the 80s. I've got videos of my band wearing spandex pants and playing songs by Cinderella to prove it <locked away of course to protect my dignity>

I like the video and the song isn't bad... look at the band pics on Hellfire Club and Tobias is even doing his David Lee Roth impression jumping up and doing the splits...

[Steerpike]

I'm not demonizing, I'm Grandpa Oz, oldest Mxer, I grew up in the 80s. I've got videos of my band wearing spandex pants and playing songs by Cinderella to prove it <locked away of course to protect my dignity>

I like the video and the song isn't bad... look at the band pics on Hellfire Club and Tobias is even doing his David Lee Roth impression jumping up and doing the splits...

Oh. I guess I'm a little jaded. This last week I've had four arguments with people (online and off) who seem to believe the 80's were a wasted decade.

[IheartSP]

Oh. I guess I'm a little jaded. This last week I've had four arguments with people (online and off) who seem to believe the 80's were a wasted decade.
Wasted no, insanely tacky yes.

[Steerpike]

True, but for the most part the 80's was bombarded with high ambition and not enough money or technology to make it happen.

Imagine for just 5 minutes what the A-Team would be like if they had CSI's budget and John Woo worthy technology.

Take a moment to picture how much further Adam Ant could have taken his music back then if he had today's synthesizers, sequencers, etc.

And, go with me on this one, imagine a world in which the 80's seasons of Space Ghost and the Superfriends had the money to hire good writers.

It's amazing to think that now, people have the tecnology to recreate that sort of thing on an extremely low budget. For $10,000 you can make a feature length movie. For around the same price, you can make a full-length studio album.

It seems though that Edguy, despite understanding this and still making a quality product, just can't please everybody. I guarantee that if they had not made the change in style that they did on Hellfire Club, everyone would be bitching that they're getting stale like Stratovarius.

But since they did make the change, other people are bitching that they didn't make Mandrake II.

No matter what you do, you're gonna piss off somebody.

[Iron Bars]

I was just checking on this festival I was planning on going to this summer and they just confirmed Edguy will be comming and Gamma Ray, Manowar, Primal Fear and Jon Oliva's Pain are rumoured to be there too.

[Lord Abortion]

I love Rocket Ride...
Superheroes, Trinidad and hair force one are my favourite tracks from there

[Stormrider]

Which Edguy album would be a good one to get first ?

Songs I know: Vain Glory Opera, Under the Moon, Land of the Miracle, King of Fools, Until we Rise Again, When a Hero Cries, Tears of a Mandrake, Scarlet Rose, Lavatory Love Machine, Super Heroes, Arrows Fly, Babylon, Fallen Angels and Heart of Twilight.

NP Edguy - Tears of a Mandrake

[10th man down]

What do you guys think of the bands Pagan's Mind and Olympos Mons. I recently checked them out on Limewire and I think they're awesome.

[Trev]

I love Rocket Ride...
Superheroes, Trinidad and hair force one are my favourite tracks from there
Definately. I love Edguy even more than before after seeing them live, although they didn't play Trinidad.

[Lord Tim]

Which Edguy album would be a good one to get first ?

If you like your metal with a lot of balls, definitely Hellfire Club, but if you prefer the lighter side (and that's not to say this album is wimpy or anything), Mandrake.

:)

[Stormrider]

If you like your metal with a lot of balls, definitely Hellfire Club, but if you prefer the lighter side (and that's not to say this album is wimpy or anything), Mandrake.

:)

Thanks. I'll look into Hellfire Club :)

[Cocaine]

Vain Glory Opera > Hellfire Club

My opinion at least.

[Stormrider]

This is realy cool...Hansi makes an apearance on the album Vain Opera Glory, track 5 and 6. I read this, and listened to the song Vain Glory Opera and when he comes in you can't mistake him :)

Taking what Lord Tim said in consideration, I'm debating wether to get Vain Opera Glory or Hellfire Club. Good songs on both.

NP Edguy - Until We Rise Again...One of the reasons I'm not sure which to get...

[Lord Abortion]

Definately. I love Edguy even more than before after seeing them live, although they didn't play Trinidad.
Would have loved that. Catch of the century and superheroes were great.
Love the fact they played Lavatory love machine.

Huge singalong there.

[JausmetalJ]

Im gonna get Rocket Ride soon,
Along with Sonata Arctica - Silence, which I have been wanting for ages, just never had funds when Ive seen it in stores.

[Slapping Penguin]

I am so proud I can almost play the solo for Rhapsodys Dawn of Victory.

[Stoic]

Of course you should be proud Dommie boy :D


This is realy cool...Hansi makes an apearance on the album Vain Opera Glory, track 5 and 6. I read this, and listened to the song Vain Glory Opera and when he comes in you can't mistake him :)


Damn, where was I?! :mad:

/looks for the tracks

[Stormrider]

^ Hehe. I havnt heard track 5, but for the song Vain Opera Glory, its only for a few seconds (I think) but still...its Hansi.

NP Blind Guardian - Hall of the King

[Hells Bells]

Here you go. (http://www.youtube.com/w/Edguy-Superheroes?v=ggpJ47RigeI&search=edguy)

That was hilarious :lol: Only Edguy would do something like that :p

However, I'm gonna have to agree with everyone else on this one in that it's not up to par with what I've heard from them before.

[Lord Abortion]

That video is awesome

[Stoic]

I know it's only me but the concept reminds me of A Perfect Circle video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8645566879577632708&q=a+perfect+circle)

[Steerpike]

Ollie, is your new usertitle taken from Manos: the Hands of Fate?

[Lord Abortion]

Nah, It's a Brutal Death song I just wrote.

[Stormrider]

Lord Abortion, Do you just write the lyrics of songs ? Or the music too ?

Just curious...

[Lord Abortion]

Just Lyrics, I have no musical knowlege whatsoever.
Can't play an instrument, or anything :)

[Stoic]

You can growl though :evil:

[Stormrider]

Oh okay then...I should have listened to those Trooper vocals you did a short while ago..I never heard you sing.

An another note : I got me computer. Just need to set it up and I will be able of taking plenty of samplers from here :)

[Steerpike]

Nah, It's a Brutal Death song I just wrote.

Oh. Just asking because one of the riffs from the MST3K episode with Manos was that the character of Torgo looks like a chainsaw sculpture.

[Stoic]

Oh okay then...I should have listened to those Trooper vocals you did a short while ago..I never heard you sing.

An another note : I got me computer. Just need to set it up and I will be able of taking plenty of samplers from here :)

Put slough feg to your prioroty list kid :mad:

[Lord Abortion]

Oh. Just asking because one of the riffs from the MST3K episode with Manos was that the character of Torgo looks like a chainsaw sculpture.
I'm just going to nod along to that, pretend I know what you mean.

You can growl though
Too right!

[Stormrider]

Put slough feg to your prioroty list kid :mad:

Haha :p Yes. I'll be asking stuff from the daily upload too everynow and then...

And I rather you call me Jammie then kid :p just kidding..

[Slapping Penguin]

You can growl though

I can do a mean Smeagol!

Jammie then kid just kidding..

Yes Stoic has a tendacy of putting ie on the end of everyones names. Probely because it doesn't work on him.

Orestesie anyone?

[Lord Abortion]

I am now the proud owner of Human fortress-defenders of the crown :cool:

[Stoic]

Probely because it doesn't work on him.

/owned :upset:

[Stormrider]

Don't worry Stoicy, you can call me Jammie :p

On another note, me thinks I will collect some samplers now.

[Stoic]

If you need anything (except for cheesy modern euro power) tell me ;)

[Stormrider]

Well, I just posted my email in Steerpike's Slough Feg thread. I'll start with that.

But thanks.

[Steerpike]

Speaking of which, they should be in your inbox by now.

[Stoic]

Jammie:
haha I saw! I'm so looking forward to someone become Slough Feg fanboy like me :D

Alex
That was quick \m/

[Stormrider]

Yeah, I just got them, thanks Steerpike. Lookign foward to hearing them.

[Lord Abortion]

Any force of Evil fans?

Quite a good band...
I also got Chapters from a vale folorn today!

FAL-CO-NER!
FAL-CO-NER!
FAL-CO-NER!

[10th man down]

I love Kamelot. :)

Recently checked out bands:

Pagan's Mind
Olympos Mons
Warmen

I bought Warmen's Accept The Fact album and am lovin' it.

[Stormrider]

Damn, deleted my post again :p

Yeah, Kamelot is realy good. Hmm, from your list, theres Pagans Mind I must check out. Dark Moor is great too.

And Slough Feg I like more them all of them.

[Shattered_Future]

Pagan's Mind is...interesting. I want to strangle their vocalist every so often, but they write some interesting stuff.

Accept The Fact is good, aside from too many singers and the fact that you can generate better keyboard tones from Powertabs than Janne can make.

[Riva]

Here you go. (http://www.youtube.com/w/Edguy-Superheroes?v=ggpJ47RigeI&search=edguy)

Like Stoic, who likes ABBA I might add, I thought that was a step towards pop. However, I did enjoy it quite a bit, but it was quite monotonous towards the end.



And, go with me on this one, imagine a world in which the 80's seasons of Space Ghost and the Superfriends had the money to hire good writers.


And ruin the brilliance that was Super Friends? Heresy.

Also, I bought Rhapsody's Rain of a Thousand Flames.

I quite like it so far, I'll give it a bit longer though, before I post a more detailed review.

Amazingly awesome cover-art.

[Lord Abortion]

And ruin the brilliance that was Super Friends? Heresy.
One of those Americo-Australian conspiracies that never made it as far as these shores?

[jaco jr]

I love Kamelot. :)

Recently checked out bands:

Pagan's Mind
Olympos Mons
Warmen

I bought Warmen's Accept The Fact album and am lovin' it.
isnt warmen just one huge keyboard solo?

[Shattered_Future]

It's actually not...there's vocalists on all of their albums.

[Riva]

One of those Americo-Australian conspiracies that never made it as far as these shores?
http://www.seanbaby.com/super.htm

[Steerpike]

http://www.seanbaby.com/super.htm

If possible, you became even cooler.

As for the heresy comment, did you happen to see the last season of the Superfriends in the 80's? It didn't suck enough to be good in its badness. The classic seasons on the other hand were awesome.

[Deth]

That page on The Black Vulcan is fantastic.

My only exposure to the Super Friends is through Harvey Birdman though. I do love that show.

[Lord Abortion]

http://www.seanbaby.com/super.htm
I see now.

NP-Sabaton-Panzer Batallion.

/prays for Primo Victoria to come down in price before I get paid next.

[shadow_stalker]

That page on The Black Vulcan is fantastic.

My only exposure to the Super Friends is through Harvey Birdman though. I do love that show.
Harvey Birdman is messed up, he had a gay relashionship with Bobo from the Yogi bear show :eek:

[Riva]

If possible, you became even cooler.

As for the heresy comment, did you happen to see the last season of the Superfriends in the 80's? It didn't suck enough to be good in its badness. The classic seasons on the other hand were awesome.

The '80s one's were terrible. Especially when Adam West joined up and forgot to be silly and nonsensical. :p

[shadow_stalker]

The '80s one's were terrible. Especially when Adam West joined up and forgot to be silly and nonsensical. :p
that just doesnt sound right

[Riva]

Ok guys, I can unequivocally say that Rain of a Thousand Flames is on par with Symphony of Enchanted Lands II. Really great album, and it shows Rhapsody in their prime, I think. It's no suprise that this album lead up to SELII, either.

[Lord Abortion]

NP-Sabaton-Metal machine

I'm going to find all that they reference in this song.

There's lots.

[Slapping Penguin]

Is Hammerfall really power metal? Beacuse I have Legacy of Kings and that sounds really power metal to me but their stuff like Hearts on Fire and Blood Bound sound very rocky to me. I still consired them power metal though but I have heard TV claim they are like Swedens biggest ROCK icons at the moment.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Yes their PM

[Deth]

Not very good power metal IMO, but power metal nonetheless.

[Shattered_Future]

Yea, Hammerfall is kind of standard...

Listening to When The Lights Go Down by Kamelot again. Great great song...

[Steerpike]

NP-Sabaton-Metal machine

I'm going to find all that they reference in this song.

There's lots.

I have a phobia, a fear of the dark
Afraid to shoot strangers, the animal talks
Guns scare me shitless, but love gun's my friend
The sentinel's calling, but is this the end

Riding on this crazy train I'm goin' paranoid
Watch me lose my mind and break the law


First line: Fear of the Dark - Iron Maiden
Second line: Afraid to Shoot Strangers - Iron Maiden
Third line: Love Gun - KISS
Fourth line: Most likely The Sentinel - Judas Priest
Fifth line: Crazy Train - Ozzy, Paranoid - Black Sabbath
Sixth line: Breakin' the Law - Judas Priest

[Lord Abortion]

Everyone, this is a public service announcement.

Buy Defenders of the crown by Human Fortress
Buy it Now.

[Riva]

Hey guys. Just letting you know that I just put up the poster of Dungeon I got with the Limited Edition for Resurrection. I've also adorned my CD wallet with the sticker.

Oh, and I'm digging the live album Under The Rising Sun: Live In Japan also. It's great.

[Shattered_Future]

That looked good, but lack of money forces me to not buy it...:mad:

[Riva]

I went to another city just to buy it! Shame on you, shame shame shame.

What would Tim think?

[Shattered_Future]

Would he rather have me BUY it, or STEAL it?

3 guesses.

That's on top of my list, once I gets me some spendin moneyr...

[G_Mac07]

Heh, I bought Resurrection twice just so that I could get that poster/sticker/Under The Rising Sun CD. The Legend of Huma sounds awesome live. I also picked up One Step Beyond last week, which I thought was pretty impressive.

/has since used neither the poster or sticker.

[Riva]

That and Resurrection sound the most awesome live.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I got the Under The Rising Sun DVD for xmas. I love how you get the audio on another CD. Every DVD should do that.

Agreed on Resurrection being the best on that live album. That, and Insanity's Fall.

NP: Judas Priest - Nightcrawler

[G_Mac07]

On Under The Rising Sun I thought that Netherlife, Lost In The Light and I Am Death were done better than Resurrection. But that might just be me. Overall, it's an excellent CD.

The only downfall that I can think of is that the part in Insanity's Fall where the crowd does the "Ooooh~ Oh Oh Oooh" part isn't really loud enough. That's not Dungeon's fault though, as it's more something that gives you a great feeling from being a part of it. I doubt any band could capture something like that on record.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yeah. I actually like Insanity's Fall on there better than the record. I like how it's sped up. Going back and listening to it on the album it seems so slow in comparison :(

[G_Mac07]

While we're on the topic of Dungeon, Lord Tim did and interview with PyroMusic a while ago where he mentioned that the album art for the European/US release of Resurrection was one of his favourite Dungeon covers. Anyone know what it looks like? I don't think I've seen it.

Link to interview (http://pyromusic.net/index.php?p=interviews_interview&id=18)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

The only cover art I could find on amazon was the special edition, which also has cool cover art. My standard re-release cover art (http://www.moderninvasionmusic.com/Assets/ArtistList/dungeonRes.jpg) is kinda average in comparison (no offence to Tim)

It's a shame how he mentions they were about to set up an online merch store before the breakup :(

Hopefully there will be one for Lord. Speaking of Lord, I need to get A Personal Journey.

[G_Mac07]

That's the Special Edition. Maybe it's the same cover.

Yeah, that was a shame. I asked Dungeon on myspace about getting a shirt for my brother (I've turned him into quite the Dungeon fan) last night, but they sold them all at the last gig.

A Personal Journey is great. My next thing to track down is original copy of Resurrection. I'd love to hear how it originally sounded.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yeah that would be interesting.

Good luck with finding one though :-\

Also, did you see my edit?

[Riva]

The one on Amazon.co.uk is the same as Amazon.com, so I imagine the European cover art is the same.

[G_Mac07]

I just saw the edit then.

:eek: Tim made that album cover himself, how dare you! :p The special edition is superior though, which is probably why it was used for the special edition.

I know it's going to be hard to find. I'm going to try and keep an eye out for it on eBay, but even then I'll have no way of paying for it online. :upset:

[JausmetalJ]

I could do it, if you paid my dad :D
Just a thought.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=14074164&imageID=348325359&Mytoken=15366464-1104-929D-26F3140A415541F625584368 /Whores Dungeon Shirt!!

APJ is awesome.

Have you heard tracks off it at all yet?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

heh, I have the same shirt :P

Yeah I heard the ones on the new Lord myspace page.

http://www.myspace.com/lordaus (I think that's the url)

Dungeon fanboys have overrun the thread :-D

[G_Mac07]

I take it that's James's default picture, and if so, I have the same shirt as well. :amaze:

I could do it, if you paid my dad
Just a thought.

Was this regarding the Resurrection original?!

Dungeon fanboys have overrun the thread :-D

I don't think it's the first time this has happened... :lol:
/is generally only around for Dungeon talk

[JausmetalJ]

Yeah, Ill get the CD if you can find it, and link me to it, then Ill send it to you or something.

I wear that shirt so often awell.

(yeah correct URL)
And This might as well be called
DUNGEON/LORD Topics.
And other powermetal bands.

[G_Mac07]

Yeah, Ill get the CD if you can find it, and link me to it, then Ill send it to you or something.

Alright. You should add me to msn again so we can discuss it further (if I ever find it, of course). I have a new email, gregbyers @ gmail.com

I wear that shirt so often awell.

Me too.

Side story: A week or two ago I was standing on a sidewalk at some traffic lights waiting to cross the street, whislt wearing my Dungeon shirt. Anyway, as the light turns green a bunch of traffic starts moving, and there was a guy on a Harley at the front. Next thing I know he is riding of, screaming "DUNGEON!!" and with one hand raising the metal horns in the air. The guy had the massive long metal hair, and was wearing the crazy leathers and all that as well. It made my day. \m/

[Apocalyptic Raids]

It can be called that during the times when we are likely to be on :-D

/is generally only around for Dungeon talk
heh me too >_>

[JausmetalJ]

Me too.

Side story: A week or two ago I was standing on a sidewalk at some traffic lights waiting to cross the street, whislt wearing my Dungeon shirt. Anyway, as the light turns green a bunch of traffic starts moving, and there was a guy on a Harley at the front. Next thing I know he is riding of, screaming "DUNGEON!!" and with one hand raising the metal horns in the air. The guy had the massive long metal hair, and was wearing the crazy leathers and all that as well. It made my day. \m/
Thats pretty ****ing awesome.

I was wearing it to a party the other night.

Ok, back up a bit. at about 6:30pm, I left my dads in FTG (suburb) and was heading to the train station, and as I was crossing the road, I see a dude with a CoF tee on. I don't think much of it, but I get to the party, and about 3 hours later, the Dude rocks up and comments on my shirt.

It was awesome, someone knew Dungeon.

[Lord Tim]

And now I wield my mighty sword of much replying! *swish!*

The only downfall that I can think of is that the part in Insanity's Fall where the crowd does the "Ooooh~ Oh Oh Oooh" part isn't really loud enough.

I agree! I mixed and produced the audio from that CD and you should have heard the audio tapes we got from Club Citta for that. Dreadful.

There was already tech problems all over the place with mics cutting out, etc. so we did have to fix one or two things up in the studio later to make it workable, but the worst thing was the audio that came out of the main speakers was mixed so badly, and it was so loud, that we had to turn it way down or it would have overpowered the main mix on the CD.

So that's why. :)

The only cover art I could find on amazon was the special edition, which also has cool cover art. My standard re-release cover art (http://www.moderninvasionmusic.com/Assets/ArtistList/dungeonRes.jpg) is kinda average in comparison (no offence to Tim)

When were were doing the album, we basically were told we had no budget whatsoever so I had to pull something out of my *** at the last minute. The artist we were working with really let us down so the only thing left to do was to come up with something quickly myself.

I thought it came up OK considering the time I had and what I had to work with. Believe it or not, the lava monster that's climbing out of the hole in the ground was my girlfriend kneeling on her bed and taken with a crappy digital camera. And all of the guys standing around the pit were of a member of the LORD forums! :p I tried to keep a strong link to the original cover as much as I could too, which added to the cheese of it, but had a better feel of legacy.

Having said all of that, I much prefer the LMP release cover (which they decided they had money for, after I went to so much ****ing trouble - thanx, spatulas!) that was done by ProgArt Media. The only thing that does annoy me about it is that as cool as the art is, it really has no relation to the concept of the album at all.


It's a shame how he mentions they were about to set up an online merch store before the breakup :( Hopefully there will be one for Lord.

Indeed there will be! I'll be getting out webmaster to work on that soon. :)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I tried to keep a strong link to the original cover as much as I could too, which added to the cheese of it, but had a better feel of legacy.
That is good. Nothing is worse than re-release which completely disregards the original. Re-recordings more so.



Indeed there will be! I'll be getting out webmaster to work on that soon. :)
Sweet!

NP: Holy Diver is playing on intensity \m/

also Tim, unrelated question, but what size guitar picks do you use? I've tried about a thousand lately and none are doing it for me :(

[Lord Tim]

I use Jim Dunlop nylon .73mm.

I actually bend them too, which I don't really understand but they feel better to me.

Each to their own. :)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Indeed. I use the .77 triangle shaped ones. They go pretty good.

I tried the stubbys but the always slip. :-\

[Lord Abortion]

As far as the live album goes, I love the live versions of Traumatised and the absolutely Godly I am Death.

NP-Iced Earth-Desert Rain(Live)

[Riva]

I agree! I mixed and produced the audio from that CD and you should have heard the audio tapes we got from Club Citta for that. Dreadful.


Have you ever heard In Flames' Live At Club Citta? Terrible production also.

[Lord Tim]

Oh really?

Hmm...

Yeah, we had really little control about what we were getting and I can't say we were impressed when we finally heard it. :(

Took a LOT of work to clean up!