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Cocaine

01-18-2006, 07:29 PM

I wouldn't ban you anyway. ;)

Ollie, on the other hand...

NP: Galloglass - Dragons Revenge (Hehe, your post inspired me)

Also, how brilliant is Welcome, by Savatage!
I'm listening to that song now \m/

Apocalyptic Raids

01-18-2006, 09:17 PM

Of course it's awesome, it's Dungeon!

Titch, I believe you...thousands wouldn't

I am Death(On Ressurection, not ARTP) is so good on the live album, there may be some sort of law in place aginst songs being that good...
I like Resurrection and Insanity's Fall better on the live album.

I Am Death has the best soloing though.

Steerpike

01-18-2006, 09:20 PM

Also, how brilliant is Welcome, by Savatage!

Is there anything they've done that isn't brilliant?

Apocalyptic Raids

01-18-2006, 09:27 PM

I really need to get me some Savatage.

JausmetalJ

01-18-2006, 09:45 PM

Hahaha, Jono...
You and me have the same songs on our myspaces :p

Mind if I add ya?

Apocalyptic Raids

01-18-2006, 09:51 PM

Yeah, go ahead.

JausmetalJ

01-18-2006, 10:42 PM

Ok, so im goin to write up a list of albums to get... Would you be able to give me some ideas for more?

So far I have:
sonata arctica - Silence
Helloween - Kot7K part II
Dragonforce - Inhumane rampage
Gamma Ray-Powerplant
Lost Horizon - A Flame To The Ground Beneath
Sabaton - Primo Victoria
Savatage - Hall Of The Mountain King
Blind Guardian - Nightfall In Middle-Earth
Tarot - Stigmata
Galloglass - Legends From Now And Nevermore
Running Wild - Black Hand Inn
Edguy - Hellfire club

Im looking for some more bands along that sorta line... (including some from Riva's avatar)

Wanna help out a fellow metal head and give me some recommendations?

Cheers

So far nice list, ill try and get a listen to a few of them and check out a few Albums.

thanks LA and Riva SS :p

Lord Abortion

01-19-2006, 04:31 AM

Gamma Ray-Powerplant is one I'm enjoying currently.

Riva

01-19-2006, 04:51 AM

The ones in my avatar are:

Lost Horizon - A Flame To The Ground Beneath
Sabaton - Primo Victoria
Savatage - Hall Of The Mountain King
Blind Guardian - Nightfall In Middle-Earth
Tarot - Stigmata
Galloglass - Legends From Now And Nevermore
Running Wild - Black Hand Inn

And I'm sure you already know Dungeon and Dragonforce. :)

Lord Abortion

01-19-2006, 04:54 AM

And Iced Earth, suspicious lack of them in your Avatar, Riva.

I'm going to get Primo Victoria when it comes down in price, it's like £10 on Amazon.
Too rich for my blood :p

Apocalyptic Raids

01-19-2006, 04:55 AM

Since you mention Running Wild, I'm listening to the live album Ready For Boarding now.

\m/

shadow_stalker

01-19-2006, 06:47 AM

Edguy - Hellfire club

speaking of which, i got the Superheros EP through the post today and it is bloody brilliant, 'Judas at the opera' is one of the funniest song i have ever heard

Iron Bars

01-19-2006, 09:14 AM

Wanna help out a fellow metal head and give me some recommendations?

Cheers

So far nice list, ill try and get a listen to a few of them and check out a few Albums.

thanks LA and Riva SS :p

Wuthering Heights - Far from the Maddening crowd
Kamelot - The fourth Legacy

My 2 favorite Power metal albums at the moment.

MetalOz

01-19-2006, 11:24 AM

Those in the North America going to be fortunate enough to see this:
Gamma Ray will only be doing 3 US shows and a total of 6 in North America. Do not miss one of the greatest power metal bands on the planet! With support from Into Eternity who have written some new material. I'll be there on May 2nd!

Lord Abortion

01-19-2006, 03:32 PM

They touring Europe at all?

I know Helloween are next month, but...

podbassist

01-19-2006, 03:33 PM

Stoic

01-19-2006, 03:34 PM

Iron Maiden were a huge influence to the power metal scene but I doubt they're really power metal themselves...

Seventh Son of a Seventh Son rules \m/

Stormrider

01-19-2006, 03:39 PM

Iron Maiden is Power Metal and I just recently bought 10 of their albums

Iron Maiden
Killers
Number Of The Beast
Piece Of Mind
Powerslave
Live After Death
Somewhere In Time
Seventh Son Of A Sevtnh Son
Fear Of The Dark
A Real Live Dead One

Guys, im an Iron Maiden noob, i only own Peice of mind and Number of the Beast...so which of these albums does Bruce sing in ?

Ide like to buy one or 2 more from them sooner or later, but i want to stick to the Bruce albums...for now.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 03:42 PM

Guys, im an Iron Maiden noob, i only own Peice of mind and Number of the Beast...so which of these albums does Bruce sing in ?

Ide like to buy one or 2 more from them sooner or later, but i want to stick to the Bruce albums...for now.

Bruce sings in all of these except for Iron Maiden and Killers both of which contain some ULTRA classic heavy metal pieces.

Stormrider

01-19-2006, 03:45 PM

Bruce sings in all of these except for Iron Maiden and Killers both of which contain some ULTRA classic heavy metal pieces.

Ah ok thanks.

Well that narrows things down :p ..

Shattered_Future

01-19-2006, 03:45 PM

Bruce sings in all of these except for Iron Maiden and Killers both of which contain some ULTRA classic heavy metal pieces.

Quoted for tr00fness. Killers can't be touched.

Lord Abortion

01-19-2006, 03:55 PM

I would get X-Factor.
It's not Bruce, but Blaze is actually more like Barlow's lower more baritone parts.

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 03:55 PM

Bruce sings on everything except Iron Maiden, Killers, The X Factor, and Virtual XI. The two blaze albums I think had some okay music but the singing was just horrendus.

podbassist

01-19-2006, 03:55 PM

Bruce sings in all of these except for Iron Maiden and Killers both of which contain some ULTRA classic heavy metal pieces.

Yeah it is still considered heavy metal but when paul di'anno was with they it sounded A LITTLE more punkish. Still good though.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 03:58 PM

Yeah it is still considered heavy metal but when paul di'anno was with they it sounded A LITTLE more punkish. Still good though.

indeed.

I would get X-Factor.
It's not Bruce, but Blaze is actually more like Barlow's lower more baritone parts.

To a beginner I would only recommend Iron Maiden's 80s albums.

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 03:59 PM

indeed.

To a beginner I would only recommend Iron Maiden's 80s albums.
They didn't have any amazing releases in the 90's but both 2000+ albums are top notch.

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:00 PM

They didn't have any amazing releases in the 90's but both 2000+ albums are top notch.

I agree brave new world is awesome. The Wicker Man is incredible.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 04:01 PM

80s>00s>90s I agree on that ;)

Stormrider

01-19-2006, 04:02 PM

I would get X-Factor.
It's not Bruce, but Blaze is actually more like Barlow's lower more baritone parts.

I had listnened to it int he store with the sampler machine thingy. I think i might get that one then.

To a beginner I would only recommend Iron Maiden's 80s albums.

I was gunna listen to what Lord Abortion said...but after what you siad, you put me doubts...why only Iron Maidens 80's albums for beginner like me ?

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:04 PM

I had listnened to it int he store with the sampler machine thingy. I think i might get that one then.

I was gunna listen to what Lord Abortion said...but after what you siad, you put me doubts...why only Iron Maidens 80's albums for beginner like me ?

Cause the 80s albums of iron maiden are the heart of all the record they have put out.

Lord Abortion

01-19-2006, 04:04 PM

Bruce sings on everything except Iron Maiden, Killers, The X Factor, and Virtual XI. The two blaze albums I think had some okay music but the singing was just horrendus.
That's the second time your opinion has sucked in here in 24 hours.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 04:06 PM

I was gunna listen to what Lord Abortion said...but after what you siad, you put me doubts...why only Iron Maidens 80's albums for beginner like me ?

I'm saying this because their 80s releases are supposed to be their best and as a beginner I prefer to start from the so called classic album(s) and gradually move onto the more obscure material of a band. Ollie may like this album but it's considered Iron Maiden's worst by many.

Lord Abortion

01-19-2006, 04:08 PM

If you go to the Maiden thread, you will find noone who doesn't love Blaze.

It's only idiots and the music press (one and the same) who give the impression that XF was a bad album.

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:10 PM

If you go to the Maiden thread, you will find noone who doesn't love Blaze.

It's only idiots and the music press (one and the same) who give the impression that XF was a bad album.

True no one in that thread hates blaze, and actually i would actually say that i like x factor better than no prayer for the dying.

Lord Abortion

01-19-2006, 04:12 PM

It's better than most of the 80's stuff, and I would really reccommend Stormrider gets it if he loves Iced Earth, It's a very dark and introspective album, like alot of IE stuff.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 04:13 PM

If you go to the Maiden thread, you will find noone who doesn't love Blaze.

It's only idiots and the music press (one and the same) who give the impression that XF was a bad album.

I think it was all a reaction against maiden's golden line up split.

Anyways, it's up to him to choose. Some song samples would help :)

oh and Ollie tell me that XF is NOT your favourite maiden please...

Stormrider

01-19-2006, 04:13 PM

It's better than most of the 80's stuff, and I would really reccommend Stormrider gets it if he loves Iced Earth, It's a very dark and introspective album, like alot of IE stuff.

Sorry Stoic, but that ones a winner then.

Anyways, it's up to him to choose. Some song samples would help

Can you just name a few songs ?

My dad doesnt want me to accept any stuff from here :shrugs: Its his computer though...

Stoic

01-19-2006, 04:15 PM

Sorry Stoic, but that ones a winner then.

:lol: no problem. I've never been an Iron Maiden fanboy anyway :p

Lord Abortion

01-19-2006, 04:16 PM

I would give him some, but I'm on Dialup here...

The lineup split was a good thing.
Bruce was sick of it, the mediocre nature of No Prayer and Fear of the dark prove this, they are easily Maiden's worst efforts.
Blaze in the band gave them a kick up the arse, and they realised that it was all very well writing about fantasy, but Steve felt "By the age of thirty, there was just other stuff to write about, in life."

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 04:20 PM

Sorry Lord Abortion, I'm really only judging off hearing the few songs I've heard. The only one I actually have is Sign of the Cross and I think Bruce's version on Rock In Rio totally owns Blaze, that's all I have at my disposal to judge on. Is his other stuff better? His voice seemed week and lacked the vibrato Bruce has to really make it sound good.

And I take offense when you said "your opinion sucked" cause that's an opinion itself, and just becuase you don't agree doesn't mean it sucks.

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:23 PM

Sorry Stoic, but that ones a winner then.

Can you just name a few songs ?

My dad doesnt want me to accept any stuff from here :shrugs: Its his computer though...

Good Iron Maiden songs to start with:

Off of Number Of The Beast:
Children Of The Damned
Number Of The Beast
Hallowed Be Thy Name

Off Of Piece Of Mind:
The Trooper
Flight Of Icarus

Off Of Powerslave:
2 Minutes To Midnight
Aces High
Rime Of The Ancient Mariner

Off of Somewhere In Time:
Wasted Years
Stranger in A Strange Land

Off of Seventh Son of A Seventh Son:
Can I Play With Madness
The Evil That Men Do
The Clairvoyant

Off Of Fear Of The Dark:
Fear Of The Dark (The Rock In Rio Version Is better than the studio)

Brave New World:
Brave New World
The Wicker Man

and if you do decide to get into earlier maiden

Off of Iron Maiden:
Phantom Of The Opera
Running Free
Prowler

Killers:
Wrathchild
Murders In The Rue Morgue

Youll have to ask lord abortion about good songs off x-factor and those albums but theres a good list

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:24 PM

Stormrider

01-19-2006, 04:27 PM

Thanks Podbassit.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 04:29 PM

Can you just name a few songs ?

My dad doesnt want me to accept any stuff from here :shrugs: Its his computer though...

It's been ages since I last listened to Iron Maiden but it seems that these songs will haunt me forever (the first two are with DiAnno but you MUST listen to them):

Phantom Of The Opera
Killers
The Number of the Beast
Aces High
The Clairvoyant
Only The Good Die Young

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:30 PM

Thanks Podbassit.

No Problem dude im an iron maiden freak so when you wanna get deeper just talk to me my aim is eddie the troopr. i can even send you some of their songs if you want.

Riva

01-19-2006, 04:33 PM

Why are we talking about Iron Maiden for 2 pages in the Power Metal thread? :p

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:34 PM

Why are we talking about Iron Maiden for 2 pages in the Power Metal thread? :p

Because they are power metal, but yeah we'll save anything else for the Iron MAiden thread

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 04:34 PM

Why are we talking about Iron Maiden for 2 pages in the Power Metal thread? :p
Sorry to beat a dead horse but they are about as Power Metal as Iced Earth is IMO. Either way they were a huge influence and everyone is too lazy to go talk about this in the Iron Maiden thread :p

Stoic

01-19-2006, 04:34 PM

nice, now I want to listen to Iron Maiden but I've traded all my albums for obscure underground metal albums :mad:

At least I've kept 7th Son of a 7th Son <3 :D

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 04:36 PM

nice, now I want to listen to Iron Maiden but I've traded all my albums for obscure underground metal albums :mad:

At least I've kept 7th Son of a 7th Son <3 :D
That's my favorite one, The Evil That Men Do just gets me so pumped, same with the title track.

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:36 PM

nice, now I want to listen to Iron Maiden but I've traded all my albums for obscure underground metal albums :mad:

At least I've kept 7th Son of a 7th Son <3 :D

I can send you any song you want if you want

Riva

01-19-2006, 04:36 PM

Sorry to beat a dead horse but they are about as Power Metal as Iced Earth is IMO. Either way they were a huge influence and everyone is too lazy to go talk about this in the Iron Maiden thread :p

No way. They are about as Power Metal as they are Melodic Death.

I can agree they were the single largest influence on power metal, but calling them power metal themselves is like calling Judas Priest power metal.

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 04:37 PM

Yeah I don't think they are Power Metal but like Iced Earth their music has some similarity but is not 100% there, but their attitude is.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 04:40 PM

I can send you any song you want if you want

what a nice guy you are! I missed Murders In The Rue Morgue and Killers. Would it be ok to upload them on http://www.yousendit.com and send me the link (AcquiredDisguise@yahoo.gr)? :D

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:48 PM

what a nice guy you are! I missed Murders In The Rue Morgue and Killers. Would it be ok to upload them on http://www.yousendit.com and send me the link (AcquiredDisguise@yahoo.gr)? :D

It said they sent it to you so they should be in your email

Stoic

01-19-2006, 04:52 PM

It said they sent it to you so they should be in your email

Got them, thank you very much! You must have a killer speed :s

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:53 PM

Got them, thank you very much! You must have a killer speed :s

Just dsl
and hit me up if you want anymore stoic or anyone else

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 04:56 PM

No way. They are about as Power Metal as they are Melodic Death.

I can agree they were the single largest influence on power metal, but calling them power metal themselves is like calling Judas Priest power metal.
About as Power Metal as they are Melodic Death? I'm not even gonna try and argue with that, it's just not worth it.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 04:56 PM

Just dsl and just in case anyone else wanted one here is the link for killers

and hit me up if you want anymore stoic

:thumb:

you may want to edit your post and delete the link since we're not allowed to post YSI links anymore ;)

Riva

01-19-2006, 04:57 PM

About as Power Metal as they are Melodic Death? I'm not even gonna try and argue with that, it's just not worth it.

Tell me the definition of power metal.

Tell me the definition of melodic death metal.

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 04:57 PM

Is there some sort of effect on the guitar in Killers? I've always wondered if it's that or just harmonics, I should go listen more closely.

Tell me the definition of power metal.

Tell me the definition of melodic death metal.
No you're just going to find some way to turn it on me. There is no such thing as a "definition" really anyway, it's all about comparison in sound. Genres were made to group things together, it's all about comparison. Iron Maiden is MUCH closer to Dragonforce than they are to Arch Enemy. They both have a considerable amount of influence but I think it is painfully obvious which one is closer.

podbassist

01-19-2006, 04:59 PM

:thumb:

you may want to edit your post and delete the link since we're not allowed to post YSI links anymore ;)

thanks for the suggestion that would be bad i didn't know we weren't allowed to post ysi links anymore, this is like my first day on in like 1 month.

Tell me the definition of power metal.

Tell me the definition of melodic death metal.

man why does everything in this forum have to end up in an argument over genres it doesn't matter how power metal they are if they are even 1 percent power metal then they can be in this thread.

Riva

01-19-2006, 05:08 PM

No you're just going to find some way to turn it on me. There is no such thing as a "definition" really anyway, it's all about comparison in sound. Genres were made to group things together, it's all about comparison. Iron Maiden is MUCH closer to Dragonforce than they are to Arch Enemy. They both have a considerable amount of influence but I think it is painfully obvious which one is closer.

Ok, then.

1. Arch Enemy are pure crap.
2. I'll do the list then.

Power Metal

Emphasis on lead guitars often harmonising, vocals.
Clean, falsetto singing, mainly.
Bass is hardly prominent.
Lyrics are known for fantasy, war and self-empowerment, but variations occur.
Double bass drumming at a fast speed.

Melodic Death Metal

Emphasis on lead guitars often harmonising, vocals, drums.
Guttural harsh vocals.
Bass is usually noticeable.
Lyrics are not known for any real consistent theme.
Double bass drumming at a medium/fast speed.

Iron Maiden

Emphasis on lead guitars often harmonising, vocals, bass.
Clean vocals.
Bass is very noticeable.
Lyrics are not known for any real consistent theme.
Double bass drumming at a medium/fast speed.

The two are closer than you think. If Bruce growled instead, do you think it's anything different?

man why does everything in this forum have to end up in an argument over genres it doesn't matter how power metal they are if they are even 1 percent power metal then they can be in this thread.

No, I want to prove my point over an internet medium. I'm not breaking any rules, so if it distresses you, then log off until it's over.

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 05:09 PM

I cannot believe you are a mod that is the most ridiculous overgeneralization I have ever seen. I am never posting in this thread again I'm gonna stay in Wintersun and Bodom where people don't ridicule me with ridiculous responses.

Goodbye

podbassist

01-19-2006, 05:09 PM

Ok, then.

1. Arch Enemy are pure crap.
2. I'll do the list then.

Power Metal

Emphasis on lead guitars often harmonising, vocals.
Clean, falsetto singing, mainly.
Bass is hardly prominent.
Lyrics are known for fantasy, war and self-empowerment, but variations occur.
Double bass drumming at a fast speed.

Melodic Death Metal

Emphasis on lead guitars often harmonising, vocals, drums.
Guttural harsh vocals.
Bass is usually noticeable.
Lyrics are not known for any real consistent theme.
Double bass drumming at a medium/fast speed.

Iron Maiden

Emphasis on lead guitars often harmonising, vocals, bass.
Clean vocals.
Bass is very noticeable.
Lyrics are not known for any real consistent theme.
Double bass drumming at a medium/fast speed.

The two are closer than you think. If Bruce growled instead, do you think it's anything different?

Um Nikko doesn't use a double bass he thinks its un drummer like, but he has the speed of a double bass, watch the dvd "part 1 the early days" they talk aboput it in their, and also there wouldn't be so much emogasis on the bass if steve harris didn't make iron maiden what it is.

Riva

01-19-2006, 05:11 PM

Hooray guys! We got rid of another fanboy. Rejoice!

No really, I'm sorry to hear you're leaving. Why did I overgeneralise?

Um Nikko doesn't use a double bass he thinks its un drummer like, but he has the speed of a double bass, watch the dvd "part 1 the early days" they talk aboput it in their, and also there wouldn't be so much emogasis on the bass if steve harris didn't make iron maiden what it is.

Double-bass speed is the same. I'm talking about what we hear, not what the drummer does.

And if Steve Harris wasn't in Iron Maiden, I could say they were very close to Power Metal, yes.

Shattered_Future

01-19-2006, 05:12 PM

podbassist

01-19-2006, 05:13 PM

Riva

01-19-2006, 05:13 PM

Melodeath has noticable bass?

Well, maybe it does...I think about half of it, maybe.

I don't think Maiden is really close to either power metal or melodeath. I just say it's what heavy metal actually is.

I never said it was close to them either. I strongly believe it is Heavy Metal that is from the NWOBHM generation. I'm just pointing out that Melodic Death is as similar to Maiden as Power Metal.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 05:15 PM

podbassist

01-19-2006, 05:15 PM

I never said it was close to them either. I strongly believe it is Heavy Metal that is from the NWOBHM generation. I'm just pointing out that Melodic Death is as similar to Maiden as Power Metal.

So basically what you are saying is if there was a melodic death thread too we could talk about them there too. Then why is everyone getting all butt hurt.

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 05:18 PM

Shattered_Future

01-19-2006, 05:24 PM

I never said it was close to them either. I strongly believe it is Heavy Metal that is from the NWOBHM generation. I'm just pointing out that Melodic Death is as similar to Maiden as Power Metal.

I'm confused now...your argument where you list what makes each genre what it is says that melodeath and Iron Maiden are closer than you think.

podbassist

01-19-2006, 05:26 PM

I'm confused now...your argument where you list what makes each genre what it is says that melodeath and Iron Maiden are closer than you think.

guys like i said before it doesn't matter if they're more death meatl or power as long as they are a little bit power metal then we can discuss them here

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 05:27 PM

Yes but if you discussed them in the Melodic Death thread you would get laughed at or flamed almost instantly.

podbassist

01-19-2006, 05:28 PM

Yes but if you discussed them in the Melodic Death thread you would get laughed at or flamed almost instantly.

Until Heavy riva came in

Riva

01-19-2006, 05:29 PM

Jason, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove but to an extent you have a point. To more specific it depends on what melodic death band you have in mind. If you take early In Flames then your theory is correct. If you take At the Gates then I think the description would not be correct since they sound more like NWOBHM elements incorporated to a death fomula than growled vocals over a NWOBHM structure. If you take Arsis the NWOBHM influences are far less obvious.

I agree, though I think Arsis isn't that removed. But the same context applies for power metal. I was just going with the archetype.

So basically what you are saying is if there was a melodic death thread too we could talk about them there too. Then why is everyone getting all butt hurt.

Yes, you could talk about Maiden's influence to the Melodic Death genre.

My natural assumption for every person in this board is that they are respectable and takes every opinion into consideration, innocent till proven guilty I guess. This thread is one of the few places where that doesn't apply and everyone flexes their elitist muscle and acts like they are so much better than everyone else. Theres no where else on this board I have to worry about that.

So, you want to be able to ridicule my opinion, and I'm not allowed to question yours?

Come on mate, I didn't even insult you personally.

I'm confused now...your argument where you list what makes each genre what it is says that melodeath and Iron Maiden are closer than you think.

Most people put them miles apart. They are maybe 100m away from each other, and power metal is maybe 90m away.

shadow_stalker

01-19-2006, 05:29 PM

I can solve this all...

look at me dance!

/starts dancing

Shattered_Future

01-19-2006, 05:38 PM

/throws quarters...or in your money, pence.

Bah, Maiden is Maiden. Plain and simple.

Riva

01-19-2006, 05:38 PM

Alright then. Since mods aren't allowed to express their opinion anymore, I'll bury the hatchet.

Sorry, IheartSP, for assuming that I can say what I think on the internet. Sorry I hurt your feelings, it was unintentional, I assure you.

shadow_stalker

01-19-2006, 05:39 PM

Aww but quaters in England are like...8ths

Alright then. Since mods aren't allowed to express their opinion anymore, I'll bury the hatchet.

Sorry, IheartSP, for assuming that I can say what I think on the internet. Sorry I hurt your feelings, it was unintentional, I assure you.
thats a good Riva...now bend over moddy

Shattered_Future

01-19-2006, 05:41 PM

Time out.

If you guys want to make a porno, not on here. This is a G-rated forum.

Riva

01-19-2006, 05:42 PM

Me? I'm just bending over to pick up a quarter. :p

shadow_stalker

01-19-2006, 05:42 PM

Animal? uh-oh

on a different note, anyone know when edguy's new album is out?

Me? I'm just bending over to pick up a quarter. :p
:lol:

Trev

01-19-2006, 05:44 PM

Rocket Ride is out tommorow, I downloaded the promo and its quite good, but I'll buy it when I go see them live.

Shattered_Future

01-19-2006, 05:44 PM

Me? I'm just bending over to pick up a quarter. :p

Let's hope so, or else the psychotic Veggietales will come and shoot you with a 9mm for not being a faithful Christian.

I've watched too much weird TV...

Is Mandrake their new album, or was that rereleased? I got a copy that said 2005 release on it, I think...

Then I lost the goddamn cd. :mad:

shadow_stalker

01-19-2006, 05:46 PM

its a rerelease as far as i know.

and now im off to wimbledon...or to order the knew album either/or is fine

EDIT: amazon dont have it! HERASY BURN THEM ALL!!!

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 05:54 PM

I already put up the white flag in the Bodom thread so I guess that means I can give posting here another shot, hopefully I can make it a week or two before betting flamed like hell again.

I've got 30 dollars to Amazon, I've been contemplating on which Blind Guardian album to get. It's between A Night At the Opera and Imaginations From the Other Side. The impression that I get from reviews is that they are both really good with a lot of ups and a few downs, but NATO has less of that heavy sound with lots of solos, while IFTOS still has a lot of speed metal influence from their early days. I've only heard one song off each, Battlefield and Bright Eyes, which are supposedly not the best by any means off of either.

I've got Nightfall In Middle Earth btw, it's one of my all time favorites.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 06:15 PM

Mordred's song off IFTOS might convince you ;)

Did you all listen to the new BG samples?

IheartSP

01-19-2006, 06:17 PM

When is their next album coming out, and where can I get my hands on these samples? Oh and have they replaced Thomen?

Stormrider

01-19-2006, 06:18 PM

Mordred's song off IFTOS might convince you ;)

Did you all listen to the new BG samples?

Yup. But you know that from me cuz of the BG thread.

I think ive only heard the self titled song from IFTOS. That song is all i need to want it though.

Stoic

01-19-2006, 06:35 PM

^HUGE BG fan in the making \m/

When is their next album coming out, and where can I get my hands on these samples? Oh and have they replaced Thomen?

Yes, the have replaced him with a fairly unknown guy

The new single is coming is February and here are the samples:
http://www.nuclearblast-musicshop.de/index.php?cPath=132892&band_id=1543

The new album was about to come out in spring but due to Hansi's problems it was postponed (sp?) for summer.

Shattered_Future

01-19-2006, 07:33 PM

I don't have IFTOS, but ANATO is one of the most awesome cds I've ever heard. Well worth your money.

Stormrider

01-19-2006, 07:44 PM

I don't have IFTOS, but ANATO is one of the most awesome cds I've ever heard. Well worth your money.

Ive heard almost everysong from that album and theres not one I dont like.

I love Soulforged.

Shattered_Future

01-19-2006, 07:47 PM

I think my personal favorite is Precious Jersualem. The drum fills in that song are absolutely crushing.

Out of curiosity (I may have asked this already), what do Bal-Sagoth fall under? They have that Rhapsody like superepic feel to them, but their vocalist isn't exactly power metal...

Deth

01-19-2006, 07:49 PM

And Then There Was Silence is incredibly good, by far my favorite on that album.

Stormrider

01-19-2006, 07:52 PM

And Then There Was Silence is incredibly good, by far my favorite on that album.

Sadly, first time i heard that song, i found it long and kind of boring...listened to it more times and now its great ! Hansi is incredible in that song...well the whole album too.

Does he do all the vocal harmonies for that song ?

Shattered_Future

01-19-2006, 07:53 PM

No, they had a choir perform with the band on that album.

Stormrider

01-19-2006, 07:56 PM

No, they had a choir perform with the band on that album.

Oh okay.

I would go out and order the rest of the discography if i had the money. Well the studio ones for now..

Shattered_Future

01-19-2006, 08:00 PM

I should get a BG DVD the next time I get ahold of some cash...

Lord Abortion

01-20-2006, 03:19 AM

No way. They are about as Power Metal as they are Melodic Death.

I can agree they were the single largest influence on power metal, but calling them power metal themselves is like calling Judas Priest power metal.
Exactly, it's like calling Venom Black metal...

Oh, X-factor stuff.

The edge of Darkness
The aftermath
Fortunes of war
Judgement of heaven
Blood on the world's hands

some of my favourites from there.

I would get the BG live album, it's seriously good.

IheartSP

01-20-2006, 05:17 AM

Exactly, it's like calling Venom Black metal...

Oh, X-factor stuff.

The edge of Darkness
The aftermath
Fortunes of war
Judgement of heaven
Blood on the world's hands

some of my favourites from there.

I would get the BG live album, it's seriously good.
I've always been curious of how they sound live. Without the millions of vocal and guitar harmonies I would think the sound is pretty different.

Lord Tim

01-20-2006, 05:58 AM

Hey, guys!

Spam ahoy off the port bow! Yarr!

Just letting you all know that the new LORD site has just been launched! :)

www.lord.net.au

Hope you like it! :)

Apocalyptic Raids

01-20-2006, 06:13 AM

Excellent. Reminds me of another site i've been to though.

I can't quite remember which.

shadow_stalker

01-20-2006, 06:35 AM

Someone has stolen my name on the LORD forums :angry:

BTW nice site Tim and the songs are sounding goooooooooooood

Lord Tim

01-20-2006, 08:34 AM

Excellent. Reminds me of another site i've been to though.

I can't quite remember which.

HAHA! I knew there was a reason I explained that in the FAQ: www.lord.net.au/faq.html :p

Riva

01-20-2006, 08:40 AM

I hope this new band comes to Cairns. They sound really cool. It'd be really cool if a member of that band would see this and tour to Cairns. Yeah, Cairns.

Lord Abortion

01-20-2006, 08:53 AM

Hey, guys!

Spam ahoy off the port bow! Yarr!

Just letting you all know that the new LORD site has just been launched! :)

www.lord.net.au

Hope you like it! :)
Sweet.

When is A personal Journey going to be available in Europe?

I'm trying to find it as an Aussie import, but without all that much luck...

Lord Tim

01-20-2006, 08:56 AM

Good question!

Check out http://www.moderninvasionmusic.com to try to get it from there in the meantime.

We're working on an international deal for LORD now but there's some political stuff we need to get past first (always industry politics, yay! *sigh*) so it may not be 'til later on in the year.

Lord Abortion

01-20-2006, 09:01 AM

That's cool, I have it for under £9 on Amazon. :cool:

Lord Tim

01-20-2006, 09:26 AM

See if that's the 2005 re-release, that's a lot better than the original version. :)

Lord Abortion

01-20-2006, 09:33 AM

Personal Leather Journals from London
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www.aspinaloflondon.com

Lord and Lady Titles from Buyagift.co.uk
Become the Lord or Lady of Glencairn for £30. Over 600 experiences and gifts on our Web site.
www.buyagift.co.uk

Personal Development Course by Telephone
Ready to work on yourself - big time? Are you ready for The Whole 9 Yards (TW9Y)? The TW9Y is a nine-month journey of self discovery and spiritual growth to help you create a life you love.
www.reddandelion.co.uk
So...this is what influenced the name! :eek:
There's not much info on it. No release date I don't think.

Lord Tim

01-20-2006, 09:47 AM

HAHAHA! That's the second funniest thing I've seen tonight!

The best (worst?) one was that Dungeon's Japanese Fan site posted up a joke cover I made for the last Dungeon album "The Final Chapter" as the image to their frontpage, thinking it was real! :amaze:

http://www.dungeonjapan.com

Note to self: Don't make joke covers anymore! :(

Riva

01-20-2006, 09:50 AM

:lol:

I think you should stick to your music Tim. :p

EDIT: Please please please please come to Cairns.

Lord Tim

01-20-2006, 09:53 AM

What is the metal scene like in Cairns anyway?

Riva

01-20-2006, 09:57 AM

What is the metal scene like in Cairns anyway?

About 4 or 5 thrash bands that play the local pubs. Maybe 1 or 2 nu-metal acts that are halfway decent. Not a lot, really.

Plenty of metal heads though. And we do have quite a few hard rock acts come up here.

Lord Tim

01-20-2006, 10:13 AM

If someone's willing to put on a decent sized show, we'd be interested in chatting to them.

Drop us a line at http://www.lord.net.au/contact.html :)

JausmetalJ

01-20-2006, 07:39 PM

Come to ScreamersScreamersScreamersScreamersScreamersSoon :)

Shattered_Future

01-20-2006, 07:44 PM

I think you guys should play at my high school. You'll get a turnout of 4 people. :lol:

Actually, that's more sad than funny...:upset:

Lord Abortion

01-21-2006, 11:23 AM

I see Riva made some additions so his avatar.
I don't like that Tarot cover though, much.

Stoic

01-21-2006, 01:38 PM

I dont like the Lost Horizon cover. The Rhapsody one is the coolest.

Steerpike

01-21-2006, 01:42 PM

The Rhapsody one is great, but the Primal Fear one is undisputably awesome as well.

Shattered_Future

01-21-2006, 01:59 PM

I think the Tarot one is kinda lame...

Replace that with Reckoning Night. :thumb:

Stoic

01-21-2006, 02:09 PM

and hail to one of my favourite power metal covers: pic (http://www.rockdetector.com/assets/resized/img/covers/163914-0-300-0-300.jpg)

Shattered_Future

01-21-2006, 03:02 PM

and hail to one of my favourite power metal covers: pic (http://www.rockdetector.com/assets/resized/img/covers/163914-0-300-0-300.jpg)

Nice big blank white webpage there Stoic. :thumb:

Stoic

01-21-2006, 03:07 PM

Nice big blank white webpage there Stoic. :thumb:

really? Let me fix this then...
http://photobucket.com/albums/a193/StormWarrior/?action=view&current=ttd.jpg
:thumb:

Shattered_Future

01-21-2006, 03:09 PM

really? Let me fix this then...
http://photobucket.com/albums/a193/StormWarrior/?action=view&current=ttd.jpg
:thumb:

Stormwarrior? Who's that by?

With a cover like that, it's bound to be good. :amaze:

Stoic

01-21-2006, 04:12 PM

Stormwarrior? Who's that by?

With a cover like that, it's bound to be good. :amaze:

StormWarrior is my photobucket account name but a great speed metal band as well :p

Anyway, this album is called "Isle of Hyndra" and it's by Twisted Tower Dire (traditional heavy/power metal). I was so impressed by the cover artwork that I felt I had to buy the album and so did I. I think it's out of print now. For the record they're the first underground band I've ever got into. :)

Shattered_Future

01-21-2006, 04:49 PM

Ah...good music then? Or does the cover art make it seem better than it really is? :p

Lord Tim

01-21-2006, 08:01 PM

Man, I can't believe the ScaryMetalPooMonster Dungeon cover art is in there... my God, that was a terrible cover! :(

Steerpike

01-21-2006, 08:34 PM

Stoic, I've really had time to absorb the Slough Feg album you sent me. I'd really love to do a spotlight on these guys, but I'd like to get a few more songs from some of their other albums before I put them on the list. Do you know where I can find them?

Shattered_Future

01-21-2006, 10:03 PM

Man, I can't believe the ScaryMetalPooMonster Dungeon cover art is in there... my God, that was a terrible cover! :(

Speaking of Dungeon albums, I saw Resurrection in a cd store today, and I was thinking of picking it up. What are your thoughts on it?

I already have A Rise To Power, and quite like it.

Apocalyptic Raids

01-22-2006, 12:01 AM

Resurrection is awesome. It's not as varied as A Rise To Power, but it's really catchy.

Lord Tim

01-22-2006, 12:33 AM

JausmetalJ

01-22-2006, 02:47 AM

/me goes and buys it.

I caught the album at screamers, but it was in a plastic slip.

Me want :(

Lord Tim

01-22-2006, 05:48 AM

This is the LMP version too, BTW - completely different packaging to the Australian version.

JausmetalJ

01-22-2006, 06:13 AM

Do you get anything in the Aust version?

And would I be able to buy it directly from you?

Apocalyptic Raids

01-22-2006, 06:30 AM

Well I got the Aus re-release and it comes with a couple of bonus tracks but that's it.

JausmetalJ

01-22-2006, 06:41 AM

Waiting for an alibi?
and... Playing to win?

Lord Abortion

01-22-2006, 08:35 AM

Yeah, the song writing is a little simplistic but it's a good album all the same, and if you pick up the limited edition version you get 3 bonus tracks, a video clip, sticker, poster and bonus live CD from our first tour of Japan. Not bad! :)
It's pretty thrashy compared to the others, but I like it. The Japan Live album is worth it, and the album itself has I am Death on it, and Legend of a Huma, of course. And that makes any songwriting simplicity a moot point.

NP-Primal Fear-Running in the dust

Lord Tim

01-22-2006, 09:34 AM

Waiting for an alibi?
and... Playing to win?

Yeah, plus the LMP limited edition also comes with the acoustic/orchestral version of Severed Ties and a video clip for I Am Death with footage from the Australian Megadeth/Nightwish/Angra tours. :)

Stoic

01-22-2006, 10:34 AM

Ah...good music then? Or does the cover art make it seem better than it really is? :p

It's pretty good actually and highly respected by people who dig this style. My only complaint is the vocals, I'd like to hear more "grind" in them.

Stoic, I've really had time to absorb the Slough Feg album you sent me. I'd really love to do a spotlight on these guys, but I'd like to get a few more songs from some of their other albums before I put them on the list. Do you know where I can find them?

Spotlight on Slough Feg?! Jesus, the whoring is really paying off! :D

If you have a little patience -its my exam period- I'll take care of it and send you a sampler sometime during the week. You cant imagine how glad I am \m/

Shattered_Future

01-22-2006, 10:37 AM

shadow_stalker

01-22-2006, 04:13 PM

Yeah, plus the LMP limited edition also comes with the acoustic/orchestral version of Severed Ties and a video clip for I Am Death with footage from the Australian Megadeth/Nightwish/Angra tours. :)
Man those LMP guys love their bonus features, the bonuses on Galloglass' heavenseeker album are pretty good...except they speak german and some dvd players in my house try to put subtitles ove rthe top of other subtitles (stupid bloody things)

NP - severd ties (In my god-like opinion this song has one of the best solos Dungeon have ever done)

Deth

01-22-2006, 07:01 PM

So, Manowar's Master Of The Wind is the greatest power metal ballad ever written.

Discuss.

JausmetalJ

01-22-2006, 08:13 PM

Yeah, plus the LMP limited edition also comes with the acoustic/orchestral version of Severed Ties and a video clip for I Am Death with footage from the Australian Megadeth/Nightwish/Angra tours. :)

Wait.. do you mean I have the LMP limited edititon?

:eek:
/me puts cd in computer.

EDIT: It probably wouldn't work on a Mac anyway :(

TheTastyLettuce

01-23-2006, 05:10 AM

circlethedrain

01-23-2006, 05:12 AM

Sup thread?

Powermetal has always been one of my "secret shames", even though I'm not actually ashamed of it....:p

I really enjoy bands like Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius, Iced Earth, Dream Evil, Dragonforce, HammerFall, Kamelot, etc.

Iced Earth has some great rythms but i have not checked them out too much yet, I personally have never really liked power metal but i do find my self getting into them more and more because of Night Wish and Ayreon.

JausmetalJ

01-23-2006, 05:25 AM

Good bands there swim, Love SA.

NEVER be ashamed of the metal that is Powerful.

Also, Lord Tim of Dungeon/LORD posts in this thread a bit :)

MetalOz

01-23-2006, 06:47 AM

Anyone listen to Jag Panzer or Steel Prophet?

Cocaine

01-23-2006, 09:56 AM

Iced Earth has some great rythms but i have not checked them out too much yet, I personally have never really liked power metal but i do find my self getting into them more and more because of Night Wish and Ayreon.
Ayreon isn't power metal..

Lord Abortion

01-23-2006, 02:20 PM

So, Iced Earth's A question of heaven is the greatest power metal ballad ever written.

Discuss.
Yes.

Cocaine

01-23-2006, 02:23 PM

I've never heard more than one or two Iced Earth tracks. Which album is the best?

Lord Abortion

01-23-2006, 02:31 PM

Night of the stormrider or Something wicked this way comes.

You should Get alive in Athens though, it's like a live best of, and remember to get the 3-disk version, not the 2 disk one.

Stormrider

01-23-2006, 02:53 PM

Night of the stormrider or Something wicked this way comes.

You should Get alive in Athens though, it's like a live best of, and remember to get the 3-disk version, not the 2 disk one.

Something Wicked is your favorite of their albums, right ?

And nice edit to Deth's post.

Lord Abortion

01-23-2006, 02:57 PM

Something Wicked is your favorite of their albums, right ?

And nice edit to Deth's post.
Hehe, it's probably my favourite studio one.

NP-Death-to forgive is to suffer

Stormrider

01-23-2006, 03:00 PM

Hehe, it's probably my favourite studio one.

NP-Death-to forgive is to suffer

Ah okay. Another live thing would be awsome. A DVD this time...When Barlow was still there.

Josh

01-23-2006, 03:46 PM

Anyone listen to Jag Panzer or Steel Prophet?
i have a Jag Panzer album in mp3 form, Casting the Stones. pretty good album actually.

i find that i tend to listen to power metal when i'm driving now, it's so great.

shadow_stalker

01-23-2006, 06:55 PM

Anyone listen to Jag Panzer or Steel Prophet?
nope whats it like?

Deth

01-23-2006, 07:40 PM

Yes.
I wouldn't consider AQOH to be a ballad though. Certainly not a full blown one.

JausmetalJ

01-23-2006, 07:43 PM

Jag Panzer are awesome, I've only heard a bunch of tracks, but definantly a sweet band.

Lord Tim

01-23-2006, 09:16 PM

They were pretty good live at Bang Your Head last year. Nice guys too. :)

MetalOz

01-24-2006, 07:11 AM

Are we allowed to send out samplers? I have every Jag Panzer album. I also met them at a show and got to hang out with them a bit. Very cool. I also have a few Steel Prophet discs, their cover of Accept's Fast as a Shark is the best...

-The Frank

01-24-2006, 07:37 AM

They were pretty good live at Bang Your Head last year. Nice guys too. :)

Not that this has anything to do with power metal,but considering your from a well established band, what are your thoughts on music downloading?

Lord Tim

01-24-2006, 09:20 AM

OK, that's a tough one.

There's 2 schools of thought on this one.

The first school being that without downloading and MP3 trading, a lot of people here on this board never would have even heard about Dungeon or LORD at all. In a way, it's sort of like borrowing an album from someone to check a band out or getting a copy to listen to for a while. If someone really likes it, they become a fan and will end up buying your other stuff and your merch and going to gigs, etc. etc. So in that way, it's a good thing.

The flip side of that is that some people who download your stuff may never buy your albums in the end. Whether it's because they intended to and never got around to doing it or never had any intention of doing it (hey, they have the album already - why would they bother going and buying it?), the outcome is the same. Essentially, it's taking money from my pocket that would have gone towards my hard work and money I spent making the music in the first place.

People could argue that downloading doesn't really hurt an artist but it does in a few ways. A good example is that our recording budget was SEVERELY cut during the last 2 albums from our label. The reason being that they were losing money due to sales being down because of downloading.

This affected us in a few ways.

First of all, it made it DAMN hard to put out a world-class product with half of our budget gone (we managed - JUST.)

Next, the label isn't making as much money anymore so their recording and promotional budgets are cut, which not only makes it hard for the artist to record but because their promotion isn't as good, less people know about the band than they otherwise would if there was more promo, therefore less sales.

Next, because people are downloading our albums rather than buying them and then you couple that with the fact that we're not being promoted as much from our label 'cos they don't have the funds to do it, our sales are down, which means less royalties.

When you're a relatively new band in the global scene, if your label sees that your sales are low, they're less keen to inject money into you when they could be pushing their more established bands who are riding out the downloading a bit better than the new kids on the block.

So yeah, as you can see, downloading overall is giving us a huge butt-reaming. There's positives to it and I'll be the first to say I'm all for people trading MP3s of my music to give someone an idea of what we do, or even trading whole albums if the other person is likely to be a person who will go out and buy the product or support the band in a big way in some fashion, but sadly, that's more the exception than the rule.

Shattered_Future

01-24-2006, 10:05 AM

See, my theory on downloading is basically, if you want to hear the band, one or two downloaded songs won't hurt. It gives the listener a chance to hear the band, and may or may not entice them to buy the album.

Downloading whole albums I think is a bad idea, even though I do it. :(

I kind of have to do it...the cd stores suck around here, I don't have a job, and I don't have a credit card where I can order this crap from online stores. For now, I'm stuck with downloading albums.

Steerpike

01-24-2006, 10:14 AM

I do agree that downloading has its ups and downs to be sure.

Personally, I don't approve of people who download whole albums with no intention of ever buying the real thing. If I like what I hear, I promise myself to buy the albums. If I really like the albums, I start buying up the T-shirts and posters as well to chip in a little extra support.

As great as filesharing may be for the sake of exposure, it often turns into another case of "too much of a good thing."

Deth

01-24-2006, 11:23 AM

I have to say though, I wouldn't have heard of many of the bands I listen to now if not for downloading, and I now own many of their albums.

Lord Abortion

01-24-2006, 11:57 AM

I'm one of the people who will go out and buy an Album after downloading if I like it. I would only be sent it from people on here, because I don't use P2P programs.
in a side note. I got

Falconer- Chapters from a veil folorn
Dragonforce-Inhuman Rampage
LORD-A personal Journey

ordered on Amazon.
Me=class

6Stringer

01-24-2006, 12:02 PM

Dragonforce - Through the Wire (http://www.youtube.com/?v=KcU5FH83Zcw)

Something all of us Dragonforce fans can enjoy.

Lord Abortion

01-24-2006, 12:07 PM

It's already up in the 'force thread, but I'm sure that anyone that doesn't frequent it is appreciative

Josh

01-24-2006, 12:23 PM

Dragonforce - Through the Wire (http://www.youtube.com/?v=KcU5FH83Zcw)

Something all of us Dragonforce fans can enjoy.
i don't understand why all the channels are getting the name of the song wrong :confused:

meh, i don't care. going to see them in just over a week :). Edguy and Sabaton should be awesome as well.

shadow_stalker

01-24-2006, 01:05 PM

Josh

01-24-2006, 01:20 PM

I like when bands offer a song or two for free download on their websites, that got me into alot of bands that were just random names to me.

and this thread got me into alot of bands i also never would have heard (big thanks to Riva for telling me about Galloglass)
that's how i got into DragonForce, i downloaded My Spirit Will Go On and Black Winter Night off their website, then you got the albums and lent them to me. eventually i bought them.
i'm trying not to borrow too many cds now, i want to buy the ones i don't have genuine copies of. only 180 or so to go.

Shattered_Future

01-24-2006, 01:21 PM

that's how i got into DragonForce, i downloaded My Spirit Will Go On and Black Winter Night off their website, then you got the albums and lent them to me. eventually i bought them.
i'm trying not to borrow too many cds now, i want to buy the ones i don't have genuine copies of. only 180 or so to go.

I still haven't bought a DF cd yet. Yet again, I can't find them anywhere. :mad:

Josh

01-24-2006, 01:23 PM

I still haven't bought a DF cd yet. Yet again, I can't find them anywhere. :mad:
i got them for a good price off amazon.co.uk, but i obviously you'll have to use amazon.com, i don't know what their prices are like. they should stock it though.

shadow_stalker

01-24-2006, 01:24 PM

Trev

01-24-2006, 01:25 PM

that's how i got into DragonForce, i downloaded My Spirit Will Go On and Black Winter Night off their website

Yeah thats how I got into DF too.

So I think I'm going to ProgPower UK (http://www.progpoweruk.com/home.html), mainly for Therion, and to a slightly lesser extend Freedom Call and Pagan's Mind. Line up looks pretty good, anyone else going?

Josh

01-24-2006, 01:25 PM

Ive had 3 of ollie's cds for like 2 months now :D
he won't need cds any more though, he has a girlfriend now, he can just ring her and talk to her.

shadow_stalker

01-24-2006, 01:28 PM

Yeah thats how I got into DF too.

So I think I'm going to ProgPower UK (http://www.progpoweruk.com/home.html), mainly for Therion, and to a slightly lesser extend Freedom Call and Pagan's Mind. Line up looks pretty good, anyone else going?
Freedom call are the only band i know from the line up

Lord Abortion

01-24-2006, 01:30 PM

he won't need cds any more though, he has a girlfriend now, he can just ring her and talk to her.
Dude, he's got Images and words... she loves that album, so we can listen to it together :)

shadow_stalker

01-24-2006, 01:32 PM

He?

Cocaine

01-24-2006, 01:35 PM

i don't understand why all the channels are getting the name of the song wrong :confused:

I think it has something to do with the arrangement being shortened/altered.

Lord Abortion

01-24-2006, 01:40 PM

He?
You have that album. (unless you're secretly female, then she would be right) and My Girlfriend likes the album.

/clarifies

Deconstruction

01-24-2006, 03:13 PM

I am not a regular in this thread, actually I have never posted in here but I figured as I am listening to more power metal, Dragon Force, Blind Guardian, Helloween I figured I would start some discussion. And I just picked up a special edition Demons and Wizards "Touched by the Crimson King" on vinyl, it was a pic disc.

IheartSP

01-24-2006, 03:14 PM

Cocaine

01-24-2006, 03:16 PM

I really can't get into Demons and Wizards. They're just one of those bands, I guess. Maybe it just isnt cheesy enough, I like my PM as cheesy as can be.

Deconstruction

01-24-2006, 03:18 PM

I really can't get into Demons and Wizards. They're just one of those bands, I guess. Maybe it just isnt cheesy enough, I like my PM as cheesy as can be.
Heh, kind of like the Immortal of Black Metal?

Cocaine

01-24-2006, 03:20 PM

Heh, kind of like the Immortal of Black Metal?
The cheese was my main attraction to Immortal. Have you seen their video? I posted this in the BM thread, but since you mentioned them...why not...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6982589850563397307&q=Immortal

IheartSP

01-24-2006, 03:24 PM

I really can't get into Demons and Wizards. They're just one of those bands, I guess. Maybe it just isnt cheesy enough, I like my PM as cheesy as can be.
To me both them and Iced Earth are the most mediocre Power Metal there is. I think it is just becuase my personal taste doesn't really appeal to Thrash, I know a lot of other people here like them tho, and they are definately good, I just like most other Power Metal bands better.

Cocaine

01-24-2006, 03:37 PM

To me both them and Iced Earth are the most mediocre Power Metal there is. I think it is just becuase my personal taste doesn't really appeal to Thrash, I know a lot of other people here like them tho, and they are definately good, I just like most other Power Metal bands better.
That's probably the exact same thing I'm thinking. Yes. Yes, it is in fact.

Shattered_Future

01-24-2006, 04:30 PM

Freedom call are the only band i know from the line up

Technically not the first post, but man, that looks like a sweet lineup. Stupid Englishmen. :mad:

Iced Earth = Good.
Blind Guardian = Good.
Demons And Wizards = Meh.

Hansi's voice is excellent, like always, but the music bores the crap out of me. There's more to music than Eb triplets and fingerpicked clean parts.

Cocaine

01-24-2006, 04:56 PM

I'm listening to Jag Panzer. I like it.

Apocalyptic Raids

01-24-2006, 08:23 PM

Anybody who hasn't seen the video for Immortal's The Call Of The Wintermoon has not truly lived.

Stormrider

01-24-2006, 08:26 PM

Technically not the first post, but man, that looks like a sweet lineup. Stupid Englishmen. :mad:

Iced Earth = Good.
Blind Guardian = Good.
Demons And Wizards = Meh.

Hansi's voice is excellent, like always, but the music bores the crap out of me. There's more to music than Eb triplets and fingerpicked clean parts.

One thing though, galloping isnt triplets...You probably know that but just used the word triplet like many others do. Just wanted to point it out.

Deconstruction

01-24-2006, 08:30 PM

But you can have galloping triplets!
And how can anyone think D&W are meh?? Probably one of my favorite power metal bands...But then again I am not a huge power metal fan... :(

Deth

01-24-2006, 08:33 PM

I really like D&W. The debut is the superior album and Fiddler On The Green is one of my favorite songs ever.

Stormrider

01-24-2006, 08:37 PM

But you can have galloping triplets!
And how can anyone think D&W are meh?? Probably one of my favorite power metal bands...But then again I am not a huge power metal fan... :(

I cant see how triplets can give a galloping effect...How ? Sorry, im just not understanding :p

And Demons and Wizard are definatly not meh for me.

Deth

01-24-2006, 08:39 PM

See: The Trooper by Maiden

Stormrider

01-24-2006, 08:47 PM

See: The Trooper by Maiden

Ah okay. I opened the powertab. The place with 16th triplets and then the eigth note, right ? It makes sense. Not the galloping i had in mind though but yeah that does it.

Deth

01-24-2006, 08:53 PM

yeah, it's not straight, but it's certainly galloping.

MetalOz

01-24-2006, 08:53 PM

I'm listening to Jag Panzer. I like it.

They have quite a few complete songs on their website from several different albums. http://www.jagpanzer.com/html/downloads/audio.htm

JausmetalJ

01-25-2006, 01:13 AM

Today I bought
SYL - Alien
HammerFall - Blood bound single \m/
Rhapsody - The Dark Secret.

CoF

01-25-2006, 01:17 AM

Every now and then i feel like listening to some cheesy power metal like right now. Hammerfall.

JausmetalJ

01-25-2006, 01:34 AM

I was kinda annoyed though, I get to JB, and Sonata Arctica - Silence isnt in, I look around and Helloween - Keeper.. Part II isnt in.

Then I find BOTH at Metal Mayhem, and couldn't buy either, same with the Dungeon DVD...

And so far, im not thoroghly enjoying this Strapping young lad album, its ok, but not great.

Apocalyptic Raids

01-25-2006, 01:37 AM

The Dungeon DVD is great, I got it for xmas.

Ever thought of getting a name change, James?

JausmetalJ

01-25-2006, 01:41 AM

Yer, its becoming JausmetalJ soon (same name as on dungeon/lord forums) :thumb:
I want the DVD so much.

Lord Abortion

01-25-2006, 03:25 PM

I like D&W alot... it's the Dark tower lyrical themes that make me prefer the second album, though :)

Stormrider

01-25-2006, 04:24 PM

I like D&W alot... it's the Dark tower lyrical themes that make me prefer the second album, though :)

A while ago, There was this special edition of Crimson King that a still regret of not picking it up. Not thats its rare here or anything but, I would have gotten a D&W cd.

I saw the S/T too once, but I was out of money to buy 2 albums.

Deth

01-25-2006, 07:24 PM

IheartSP

01-25-2006, 07:27 PM

Does anybody here have a power metal band that you find overwhelmingly mediocre? Hammerfall is that band for me. Everytime I listen to them I just sort of listen to it, having no thoughts one way or the other.
That's Iced Earth and D&W for me. I'd say Dragonforce but I can understand why everyone says their so great, I just personally have a strong dislike for the sound.

Deconstruction

01-25-2006, 07:46 PM

I cant see how triplets can give a galloping effect...How ? Sorry, im just not understanding :p

And Demons and Wizard are definatly not meh for me.
Tap 2 fingers on something, 1 2 1 , repeat.

Stormrider

01-25-2006, 07:56 PM

Tap 2 fingers on something, 1 2 1 , repeat.

But galloping is made up of 2 16ths and an 8th. Unless theres what Deth showed me in The Trooper.

Triplets are the same value notes therefore not causing a galloping effect.

If i do the 1 2 1 you said, then in that case the 1 is a 16th, the 2 is a 16th and the last one is an 8th. If the 1 2 1 are for example, 8th note triplets, then theres no galloping happening.

IheartSP

01-25-2006, 08:05 PM

Galloping are any 2 note values followed by one note value double that note value

Deth

01-25-2006, 08:16 PM

Or it can be the other way around. Raining Blood has the eigth note first.

Apocalyptic Raids

01-25-2006, 08:24 PM

Stormrider

01-25-2006, 08:28 PM

Galloping are any 2 note values followed by one note value double that note value

Yeah. Sorry, I just used the example with 8ths and 16ths. But yes your right.

To Deth: Many IE songs start off a galloping riff with an 8th note too. It leads to the same thing pretty much.

And then theres some galloping riffs which have an 8th note before every "gallop" Example: Dantes Inferno.

IheartSP

01-25-2006, 08:35 PM

As long as it is 3 notes, 2 smaller ones equally a bigger one, in any order, it is galloping.

Stormrider

01-25-2006, 08:40 PM

I <3 galloping.

I think I'll listen to Elements Part 1 later...

JausmetalJ

01-26-2006, 05:21 AM

NP: Pantera - Mouth for war...

Not very powermetally :p

Riva

01-26-2006, 05:28 AM

The best galloping I've heard on bass is the beginning to One Of These Days by Pink Floyd.

Lord Abortion

01-26-2006, 05:50 AM

JausmetalJ

01-26-2006, 06:15 AM

The Jag is awesome man.

Deth

01-26-2006, 10:57 AM

I agree with Ollie on Jag Panzer. There was nothing memorable about them.

Stormrider

01-26-2006, 01:52 PM

Stratovarius, Metal church, Jag Panzer...

The song Elements is realy growing on me since yesterday.

NP Stratovarious - Elements

Deconstruction

01-26-2006, 02:13 PM

But galloping is made up of 2 16ths and an 8th. Unless theres what Deth showed me in The Trooper.

Triplets are the same value notes therefore not causing a galloping effect.

If i do the 1 2 1 you said, then in that case the 1 is a 16th, the 2 is a 16th and the last one is an 8th. If the 1 2 1 are for example, 8th note triplets, then theres no galloping happening.
Triplets are just a group of three notes...
Or at least I thought. But ya 1 and 2 are 16 and the last 1 is an eighth.

Stormrider

01-26-2006, 02:17 PM

Triplets are just a group of three notes...
Or at least I thought. But ya 1 and 2 are 16 and the last 1 is an eighth.

For example 8th triplets will be 3 8th notes in 1 beat, instead of 2. So in speed, its halfway between an 8th note and a 16th.

Sorry if you knew this already.

Lord Abortion

01-26-2006, 03:45 PM

I agree with Ollie on Jag Panzer. There was nothing memorable about them.
Yeah, they have some good stuff, but nothing special. I would put Hammerfall in there, but they're growing on me.

Josh

01-26-2006, 03:56 PM

Yeah, they have some good stuff, but nothing special. I would put Hammerfall in there, but they're growing on me.
i like the Jag Panzer i have, it's good, but i don't think i'd go out and buy it.

HammerFall are great, i'd love to see them live.

only 6 days 'til DragonForce (and Edguy! and Sabaton)

MetalOz

01-27-2006, 09:30 AM

I have to disagree on Jag Panzer being unoriginal. But Hammerfall I would categorize as generic. I still like a lot of their stuff though.

Has anyone ever heard Axel Rudi Pell and what do you think? I have a very old Steeler album with him on it and it's good but the production quality is bad. I see that he has worked with some talented singers...

Lord Tim

01-27-2006, 09:41 AM

I really enjoy Axel's stuff and he was great live at Bang Your Head but man... as a songwriter, he's awesome, but as a producer and (sadly) as a guitarist he's terrible. He's got amazing speed and chops galore but absolutely NO feel at all, which is sad 'cos it really takes away from his excellent songwriting.

MetalOz

01-28-2006, 11:09 PM

Lord Tim

01-29-2006, 07:14 AM

Yeah, check out Wild Obsession.

Real 80s inspired metal/hard rock. :)

Lord Abortion

01-29-2006, 08:10 AM

I'm so getting a Human Fortress album

Stoic

01-29-2006, 09:47 AM

check out Euroforce as well, it's neoclassical (ala symphony X) with the guy from Human Fortress on vocals.

Lord Abortion

01-29-2006, 09:49 AM

I just picked up Defenders of the Crown from Amazon :cool:

Steerpike

01-29-2006, 10:08 AM

I've been digging them a lot lately. Jioti is a great power metal vocalist.

Lord Abortion

01-29-2006, 10:14 AM

The intro to Border raid in Lion's march is just awesome.

Brew

01-29-2006, 03:22 PM

The intro to Border raid in Lion's march is just awesome.

:thumb:

Great song too, one of the first I heard by Human Fortress.

Cocaine

01-29-2006, 04:00 PM

anyone heard the new Thy Majestie album? It's great.

Stoic

01-29-2006, 04:03 PM

anyone heard the new Thy Majestie album? It's great.

jesus christ, this band reminds me of something, I must have listened to a couple of samples in the past. What is a representative song off this album?

Cocaine

01-29-2006, 04:05 PM

jesus christ, this band reminds me of something, I must have listened to a couple of samples in the past. What is a representative song off this album?
The Chosen was the first song I heard and it made me get the album, you can hear it on their myspace

www.myspace.com/thymajesty

Stormrider

01-29-2006, 04:08 PM

Ive just found this new band, Seven Witches. Check them out if you havnt.

NP - Seven Witches - Metal Tyrants

Stoic

01-29-2006, 04:13 PM

\m/ finally a non cheesy euro power band is mentioned in this thread by someone who is not me :D

Thank you CAC, I'll tell you my opinion as soon as I get this thing to work :angry:

Cocaine

01-29-2006, 04:15 PM

\m/ finally a non cheesy euro power band is mentioned in this thread by someone who is not me :D

Thank you CAC, I'll tell you my opinion as soon as I get this thing to work :angry:
haha, it can be a bitch sometimes, like on certain occasions it'll stick to "buffering"

http://www.thymajestie.com/eng/index2.htm

That's their site, it's got some mp3s on it. I'm also sharing the album on soulseek

Stoic

01-29-2006, 04:18 PM

haha, it can be a bitch sometimes, like on certain occasions it'll stick to "buffering"

http://www.thymajestie.com/eng/index2.htm

That's their site, it's got some mp3s on it. I'm also sharing the album on soulseek

Yeah I saw the site but "The Chosen" is not available for download and since it was the one that got you into the album, it's the first I want to listen to as well. What's your soulseek username?

Cocaine

01-29-2006, 04:23 PM

Yeah I saw the site but "The Chosen" is not available for download and since it was the one that got you into the album, it's the first I want to listen to as well. What's your soulseek username?

lintmunro

Stoic

01-29-2006, 04:51 PM

not bad at all man! The vocalist accent is pretty sweet and the solo/symphonic parts quite enjoyable (although in overall nothing THAT mind blowing or refreshing). Positive first (although I swear I have listened to them before at some point!) impression, I shall check out for more :)

Stormrider

01-30-2006, 08:45 PM

I've just made myself my lil Power Metal dedicated cd, with the likes of Angra, Blind Guardian, Dragon Force, Seven Witches and Sonata Arctica.

All bands I've checked out recently except for Blind Guardian. Good stuff.

CaptainWaits

01-30-2006, 10:41 PM

Alright, so I'm looking for a little help...

My local CD store has a few CD's in of bands where I've heard of the band, but haven't actually had a listening experience with the band. So I'm asking for your help! They are...

Nocturnal Rites - Afterlife
Vanishing Point - ??? (something "Dream")

Any good? And what are they comparable too??