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blueyxd
04-19-2004, 05:12 AM
Atheist - Elements (1993)

http://www.pluto.dti.ne.jp/~k-tan/music/hot/atheist1.jpg

Album - 12 Tracks - 41 Minutes

01. Green
02. Water
03. Samba Briza
04. Air
05. Displacement
06. Animal
07. Mineral
08. Fire
09. Fractal Point
10. Earth
11. See You Again
12. Elements


First off, I'm not too sure about the band history and members etc. This is their third album, open to additions/corrections of course, for me this review is about the music.
Ok, it's death metal mixed with somewhat jazzy styles. The guitarists, bassist, and drummer very proficient and technical with their instruments, and they don't hold back in showing what they can do. Lots of solos, tricky riffs, a fair few time sig changes, but they never go "over the top".

There are 8 "real" songs, the other 4 (Samba Briza, Displacement, Fractal Point, and See You Again) are short, non-heavy, instrumental pieces, which are nice little breaks.
Samba Briza is a rather energetic samba (no, really) piece with piano and some bongos added in for maximum flavour.
Displacement.. its still quite jazzy, but on the relaxing side of things, just really nice.
Fractal Point kind of goes nowhere.
See You Again - same as Displacement.

Heaviness and jazziness are about 40% and 60% respectively, for every low and chunky chord or riff there is a high pitched run or two. The vocalist almost always growls, but he is fairly easy to understand compared to other vocalists that use this style.

Each song has its own theme (obviously in the titles), the lyrics take different viewpoints or styles in each song, eg. in Water and Mineral, the element is personified, Earth and Animal take a different approach. Another common theme in here is human kinds lack of care and respect for the natural environment.

The music is so well written and appropriate (maybe a little cliche?) that you could probably match a song with its title without even knowing it beforehand. So the songs all have their turn, giving a bit of insight, then each one is brought in together in the last track, Elements, which does drag on a bit, but at least its consistent and ties everything together well.

Production isn't great, the drums distort often, and sometimes the guitar too (as in being recorded too loud). But maybe that was planned... environmental theme and all. Maybe not. At least its nowhere near as bad/distorted as some black metal recordings.

My Favourites: Water, Displacement, Animal, Fire, and Earth.
I Recommend: Air and Earth, both are fairly easy to listen to, and represent the overall sound of the album well enough.
Listen if you like technical metal bands such as Cynic and Spiral Architect, though if you listen to them you probably already know Athiest.

I rate it 4.5/5
It's not 5/5 because of Fractal Point, some bits in the Elements song, and the production.
It's not 0-4/5 becuase the music is so awesomely written, arranged, set out, and played. It's heavy without being too heavy, and the jazz stuff is a really good balance to make up the other side of the songs where the heaviness isn't. The lyrics are good, the subject is something I can relate to (as an environmental science student), and I have similar views as the band expressed, which makes it a good motivator for me.

once again, that's 4.5/5 party whistles

Bartender
04-19-2004, 06:36 AM
Good review..I didn't expect anyone to review an Atheist CD, are you going to do any others, or Cynic, Watchtower, etc?

blueyxd
04-19-2004, 06:58 AM
thanks, I might do Cynic - Focus when I find some more time and can have a good listen to it.
but theres other music styles I could do... it depends on what I'm listening to or feel like writing about :)

manuscriptreplica
04-19-2004, 07:15 AM
atheist are cool. only heard a few songs though... which ones are the best ones on the CD (preferably the most technical, because I love technical metal) good review.

blueyxd
04-19-2004, 07:29 AM
they're all pretty technical really, with that in mind I'd say you can't go wrong whichever song you get next, though I might stress Water... it doesnt really matter

Bartender
04-19-2004, 10:23 AM
Yeah, Water's a good one to start with. I'm also a fan of Green.

blue, do you actually have a copy of this album?

sensitiveorgan00
04-19-2004, 02:15 PM
Nice review. :thumb:
Is it true that Atheist cds are out of print?

blueyxd
04-19-2004, 08:06 PM
I only have mp3s... but I would get if I found it and had enough money.. but if they are out of print.. ****

Per Ardua Ad Astra
04-19-2004, 08:09 PM
Hey guys, would you recomend Atheist or Cynic to a metal head like me. I've heard some of Sean Malone's other projects (Gordian Knot mainly) and i like it. I've heard great things so which one...'
Atheist-Elements
or
Cynic-Focus

manuscriptreplica
04-20-2004, 05:07 AM
atheist are better (from the few MP3's i have of each band). If you want some technical stuff, also check out Meshuggah. Cynic are still great though.

blueyxd
04-20-2004, 09:48 AM
Out of those 2, Atheist is probably an easier listen.

Per Ardua Ad Astra, have you heard Aghora? They're a superb band which features Sean Malone, and sound more like GK than Atheist or Cynic.

SubtleDagger
04-20-2004, 01:14 PM
I've really been getting into Cynic lately, as they are cited as a giant influence in today's math rock genre. Too bad Focus was their only album.

Bartender
04-20-2004, 01:25 PM
Focus is their only album, but they have four self-titled demos, all well-worth downloading (or buying, if you can find the bastards). They also have four songs (2 original, one Metallica cover and one Mahavishnu Orchestra cover) not available on demo or album, but I haven't heard them. The members are also all over the place in various appearances on albums and things. See Cynical Sphere (www.cynicalsphere.com) for more information.

Bartender
04-20-2004, 01:28 PM
Hey guys, would you recomend Atheist or Cynic to a metal head like me. I've heard some of Sean Malone's other projects (Gordian Knot mainly) and i like it. I've heard great things so which one...'
Atheist-Elements
or
Cynic-Focus

If you're just going to get Focus or Elements, I'd go with Focus. If, for some reason, you're just going to check out one of the two bands, I'd go with Atheist. But you're probably going to have to download everything anyway, cos it's all so very rare :(..so just get everything you can by both.

FillInTheBlankHere___
05-12-2004, 04:15 PM
I heart this album. I downloaded the whole thing over dialup, which is a major feat. I wish I could find a real copy, it's one of my favourite CDs. For the record, there were two Atheist records before this: Unquestionable Presence (really technical metal, less jazzy than this), Piece of Time (the heaviest record, least technical and jazzy, but still awesome), and this one. Roger Patterson played bass on the first two albums, but died in a car crash, and was replaced by Tony Choy.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

Bartender
05-12-2004, 05:17 PM
I downloaded them all on 56k as well..I have too much time :(

I prefer Unquestionable Presence to the others, but only by a tiny margin.

SubtleDagger
05-12-2004, 05:35 PM
Yeah, I thought Unquestionable Presence was better than this one.

YDload
05-12-2004, 06:39 PM
Which band had the bassist who was really good but died really young, Roger Patterson?

SubtleDagger
05-12-2004, 07:11 PM
That's Atheist. They got a new one for Unquestionable Presence, and managed to keep trucking. Sucks that they lost him, though, he was awesome.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
05-13-2004, 02:59 PM
Per Ardua Ad Astra, have you heard Aghora? They're a superb band which features Sean Malone, and sound more like GK than Atheist or Cynic.

Cool, i'll be sure to check them out.

If you're just going to get Focus or Elements, I'd go with Focus. If, for some reason, you're just going to check out one of the two bands, I'd go with Atheist. But you're probably going to have to download everything anyway, cos it's all so very rare ..so just get everything you can by both.

Focus isn't really very rare, i've seen it on record sites and such but Atheist is mucho expensivo from what i've seen because it's so hard to find.

Toozey2
05-14-2004, 08:37 AM
I'm pretty sure this was their last album as earlier stuff was more metal orientated.

Distorted Vision
05-14-2004, 10:24 AM
Roger Patterson played on Piece Of Time, and then wrote all the bass parts to Unquestionable Presence before he died. Then Tony Choy played them on that album and Elements was his own work.

I'd recommend Cynic over Atheist, Focus is really an amzing album.

Mekkalayakay
10-08-2004, 02:08 AM
I have a few songs downloaded from this album, and I love it. Anything Cynic/Atheist/Watchtower-ish does it for me. Good stuff.

Maglor
10-21-2004, 11:36 AM
has anyone in here ever realized that the sound on Atheist's Elements has so much bass, that it can really damage you listening equipment? headphones for example, if you listen to the album a little louder than usual... I've also noted that Nevermore's Dreaming neon black has the same problem with its recording sound. Also if you compare Diana Krall's The look of love DIGIPAC with the Jewelcase version you will notice that the digipac version has the same problem...
I know of other albums in the metal genre, that have the same problem.

But has anyone in here noticed that in the Elements album?

iliketoplaydrums10111
10-21-2004, 03:47 PM
Good review, I might have to check this out

Nuclear Doom Machine
10-21-2004, 04:56 PM
Atheist, what the great group of musicians. I'm glad their are others that listen to them.

Iai
10-21-2004, 05:15 PM
has anyone in here ever realized that the sound on Atheist's Elements has so much bass, that it can really damage you listening equipment? headphones for example, if you listen to the album a little louder than usual... I've also noted that Nevermore's Dreaming neon black has the same problem with its recording sound. Also if you compare Diana Krall's The look of love DIGIPAC with the Jewelcase version you will notice that the digipac version has the same problem...
I know of other albums in the metal genre, that have the same problem.

But has anyone in here noticed that in the Elements album?

Totally. Enemies Of Reality too.

Maglor
10-22-2004, 04:09 AM
Totally. Enemies Of Reality too.
Enemies of reality, not so much... only in a couple of songs... but yeap we might agree in that.I will be remembering other albums.

manuscriptreplica
10-22-2004, 04:34 AM
The Bloodhound Gang's Hurray For Boobies CD had ridiculous amounts of bass in it.

FillInTheBlankHere___
10-23-2004, 04:19 PM
Yeah, I slightly blew out my headphones cranking Elements, there's now a slight buzz when I play anything bassy at medium-high volumes. :upset:

But this album is worth it. One of my favourites, I only wish I could buy a copy. Does anyone know where this album is available in Canada?

manuscriptreplica
10-24-2004, 02:14 AM
E-bay
2nd hand shops

I.e It's out of print.

Maglor
10-27-2004, 01:51 PM
Yeah, I slightly blew out my headphones cranking Elements, there's now a slight buzz when I play anything bassy at medium-high volumes. :upset:

But this album is worth it. One of my favourites, I only wish I could buy a copy. Does anyone know where this album is available in Canada?
yeah Ebay's usually has it...
you should take a look... they've got all albums from time to time..
Yeah I blew my headphones too, but I'm going to try and 'clean' the sound of Elements with Wavelab ou Clean from Steinberg.

Anyone's got any more information about albums that don't sound right?

manuscriptreplica
10-27-2004, 11:12 PM
Piece of Time has been re-released, if you're interested in that.

blueyxd
10-28-2004, 12:13 AM
I saw a few copies on ebay being sold from the UK recently, Australia has no luck though, though I might just go check out some places later on if I feel like it, you never know..

I just added the album cover to the review too.. finally

Bartender
10-28-2004, 03:36 AM
Piece of Time has been re-released, if you're interested in that.

Didn't know that. Thanks.

Stoic
10-28-2004, 05:56 AM
that was two years ago I think...

manuscriptreplica
10-28-2004, 10:20 AM
What I meant is, you can buy it new. You can't buy Unquestionable Presence and Elements new. Which is a bit of a shame :(