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HappyMarshmellow
08-29-2005, 11:20 PM
Alaska is the song I posted. :thumb:


Uh, no. Im calling you ignorant because I post a song off the new album, and you call it Metalcore instantly without even listening to it.

I don't want to listen to that song. I'm not in the mood.

Man I hate this Babylon way of thought, people are taught to force everything that they like onto people.

Between the Buried and Me have put out mostly metalcore. So they are metalcore. I didn't say the new song was metalcore, did I?

Endless Obsession
08-29-2005, 11:21 PM
No but you did respond to my post and say "BTBAM is Metalcore ****it." I just made the assumption you were answering my question.

HappyMarshmellow
08-29-2005, 11:22 PM
No but you did respond to my post and say "BTBAM is Metalcore ****it." I just made the assumption you were answering my question.

Also, you already know that it's metalcore. You just want someone to back you up on your thoughts, don't you?

Why?

Endless Obsession
08-29-2005, 11:32 PM
Also, you already know that it's metalcore. You just want someone to back you up on your thoughts, don't you?

Why?

Well I thought they were Metalcore, then I listened to that song and it sounded death metal to me. Im not an expert on Death metal so I wanted a second opinion.

i am the robots
08-29-2005, 11:44 PM
Back to the FYE topic.

The Mall here in Salisbury has an FYE which has a great Metal section.... if you want oldschool Nu-Metal albums for $5 bucks a pop... but other than that, it sucks... now a town nearby, Whitehall has a much larger mall, and somehow, don't ask me how, the FYE there turned into a Metal haven recently, their Metal section has some really rare Death, Black, and Thrash material, and for reasonable prices at that, it's a freaking dream come true, the 15 min. drive is so freaking worth it.

ninjamonkey
08-30-2005, 12:06 AM
Back to the FYE topic.

The Mall here in Salisbury has an FYE which has a great Metal section.... if you want oldschool Nu-Metal albums for $5 bucks a pop... but other than that, it sucks... now a town nearby, Whitehall has a much larger mall, and somehow, don't ask me how, the FYE there turned into a Metal haven recently, their Metal section has some really rare Death, Black, and Thrash material, and for reasonable prices at that, it's a freaking dream come true, the 15 min. drive is so freaking worth it.
Haha, old-school nu-metal. Good times.

HappyMarshmellow
08-30-2005, 12:08 AM
Back to the FYE topic.

The Mall here in Salisbury has an FYE which has a great Metal section.... if you want oldschool Nu-Metal albums for $5 bucks a pop... but other than that, it sucks... now a town nearby, Whitehall has a much larger mall, and somehow, don't ask me how, the FYE there turned into a Metal haven recently, their Metal section has some really rare Death, Black, and Thrash material, and for reasonable prices at that, it's a freaking dream come true, the 15 min. drive is so freaking worth it.

Nu metal for $5 a pop is like crack for $1 a rock; It's just not worth it, no matter how cheap it is.

superflyjojo
08-30-2005, 12:23 AM
Can someone reccommend me some Cannibal Corpse to start out with. I'm just starting to get into them.

manuscriptreplica
08-30-2005, 12:30 AM
Try their early albums, Butchered at Birth is a good one.

Dancin' Man
08-30-2005, 12:31 AM
HM - are you suggesting a band can't change their sound and should therfore one's opinions on the band should be based on what they may have sounded like at one point? If so I think many people in here would hate Carcass thanks to Swansong and Amorphis would be a no-no band considering Am Universum. That is what I think was ignorant about your statement. BtBaM have taken a much more diverse path in their music and while Metalcore is there, so is lots of other stuff. The fact that Byzantine posted Alaska was maybe a poor choice as that song is based on power metal and metalcore and doesn't support my statement well at all but what can be done.

superflyjojo
08-30-2005, 12:39 AM
Yeah I was probably going to pick up Butchered or Tomb Of The Mutilated

HappyMarshmellow
08-30-2005, 01:05 AM
HM - are you suggesting a band can't change their sound and should therfore one's opinions on the band should be based on what they may have sounded like at one point? If so I think many people in here would hate Carcass thanks to Swansong and Amorphis would be a no-no band considering Am Universum. That is what I think was ignorant about your statement. BtBaM have taken a much more diverse path in their music and while Metalcore is there, so is lots of other stuff. The fact that Byzantine posted Alaska was maybe a poor choice as that song is based on power metal and metalcore and doesn't support my statement well at all but what can be done.

Comparing Between the Buried and Me to the likes of Carcass and Amorphis isn't smart at all.

But I get what you mean. I just don't like Between the Buried and Me, the same way I don't like metalcore.

Slapping Penguin
08-30-2005, 01:15 AM
jesus dom! The night already ended for you?!

/funny time differences

ORIGIN UPLOADS FOR CHU
They're both off their second album, I cant find their newest one in my messy room at the moment

Origin - Inhuman
hxxp://rapidshare.de/files/4513736/Origin_-_Inhuman.mp3.html

Origin - Perversion of Hate
hxxp://rapidshare.de/files/4513622/Origin_-_Perversion_Of_Hate.mp3.html

Well sorry I am not on summer break. I get up in the morning and go to school mate! 7 every morning haha. I am trying to upload these songs. More to my growing collection. It sucks mate. I sit on here for an while before I go to bed and then hardly anybody posts then I wake up the next night and have to read though 4 pages on posts hahaha.

HappyMarsh I don't know who you are but seems you have just come in here and said alot of stupid posts, mocked alot of people and acted as if you are god. Please stop it.

Uh, no. Im calling you ignorant because I post a song off the new album, and you call it Metalcore instantly without even listening to it. Oh god I hate that. People just say so many bands are so called Metalcore sh*it (See earlier) without even giving it a shot, dimissing it and when they probely wouldn't have the slitest clue as to what Metalcore sounds like.

HappyMarshmellow
08-30-2005, 01:20 AM
Well sorry I am not on summer break. I get up in the morning and go to school mate! 7 every morning haha. I am trying to upload these songs. More to my growing collection.

HappyMarsh I don't know who you are but seems you have just come in here and said alot of stupid posts, mocked alot of people and acted as if you are god. Please stop it.

Best to get to know me better then.

This is a DEATH thread, not a metalcore thread. If I'm too militant, you can suck my ****.

Cardboard Headgear
08-30-2005, 01:22 AM
Best to get to know me better then.

Still have 3 girlfriends? :lol:

Slapping Penguin
08-30-2005, 01:26 AM
Yeah it is a Death Thread, but that doesn't mean we act like a pack of elitist tools and dismiss or other music. (and yeah the guy asked if the band was Death Metal so it is related you idiot)

Too militant? Do you even know the meaning of the word you fool. You are a twit. I guess it makes you tough to tell a guy to suck your own peni s on a internet site. Just stop been a wang and I may wanted to know you better. Thats my rant you can countine but I won't.

HappyMarshmellow
08-30-2005, 01:27 AM
Still have 3 girlfriends? :lol:

:lol:

I remember those days.

No man, I'm just going straight with my girl now. I've been with her 10 months actually and I haven't cheated at all.

She's a crazy nympho. If I don't please her sexually, she actually gets pissed at me. She starts fighting and bitching and stuff, and that's when I know I have to go down on her and make everything OK again :lol:

But I really like her. I'm still smoking pot and doing drugs in general, and I still listen to metal even though I've gotten really into reggae, electronica, and country music.

I'm actually playing bass for a latin jazz band now, my death metal bands have all fallen apart and the reggae band I was in smoked itself apart.

I'm going to start a more progressive metal band this week with a few old buds though. I'm going to sing and play guitar, so I'll be the frontman.

Everything is pretty good. :cool:

Yeah it is a Death Thread, but that doesn't mean we act like a pack of elitist tools and dismiss or other music. (and yeah the guy asked if the band was Death Metal so it is related you idiot)

Too militant? Do you even know the meaning of the word you fool. You are a twit. I guess it makes you tough to tell a guy to suck your own peni s on a internet site. Just stop been a wang and I may wanted to know you better. Thats my rant you can countine but I won't.

Go and whine somewhere else, man. Nobody needs these weak vibes.

If you chill a bit, we can clean the slate and know each other better. I'm just opinionated is all, but I'm all around a friendly guy. How about we do that? I'm up for it.

Slapping Penguin
08-30-2005, 01:29 AM
Yeah right lets move on. I'm sure people want a fight runing a good thread. ALready respect has been gained.

HappyMarshmellow
08-30-2005, 01:32 AM
Yeah right lets move on. I'm sure people want a fight runing a good thread. :rolleyes:

That's cool. I respect you now.

I noticed you have an Opeth shirt on.

Blackwater Park dominated a good part of my listening during my more depressing high school years. It's good stuff, thick and atmospheric.

I got Damnation a while ago and I didn't like it at first, but it's definetly growing on me. I've got to get some more herb, probably tomorrow, and give it a spin now that I'm reminded I have it.

Have you heard Steel, the joke band with the members of Opeth?

Slapping Penguin
08-30-2005, 01:35 AM
Nope is it good? Yeah Blackwater Park is very good. Well I don't have the shirt on my pet penguin umm........... Flossie does. Steel eh. So bunch on funnies are they?

Dancin' Man
08-30-2005, 01:35 AM
Comparing Between the Buried and Me to the likes of Carcass and Amorphis isn't smart at all.

But I get what you mean. I just don't like Between the Buried and Me, the same way I don't like metalcore.

Fair nuff.

NP Carnival in Coal - ****able

HappyMarshmellow
08-30-2005, 01:40 AM
Nope is it good? Yeah Blackwater Park is very good. Well I don't have the shirt on pet penguin umm........... Flossie does. Steel eh. So bunch on funnies are they?

Yeah man, Steel is pretty funny. They rip on eighties metal, they did it before power metal became popular.

They only released one EP. If you want it, I'm on MSN.

scanner_1@email.com

Fair nuff.

NP Carnival in Coal - ****able

Sorry man. I know I'm crazy and I'm a little hard to handle at times.

Chu
08-30-2005, 01:58 AM
Stoic, muchas thankas for the downloads!!

Spent alot of today just listening to the same songs, but then I wanted more :evil:
So, I'm looking for this album, but I'm probably going to have to download it ehh... :upset:

Oh well.

Cheers again, thanks :thumb:

craggyisland
08-30-2005, 03:31 AM
Yeah man, Steel is pretty funny. They rip on eighties metal, they did it before power metal became popular.
Heavy Metal Machine is awesome, I love it \m/

@magicaltroll834: Sorry I wasn't on slsk to respond yesterday man, I'm away until Thursday now but I'm leaving slsk running, so just grab whatever you'd like. I won't be there to reply to messages though.

the2stranger
08-30-2005, 04:14 AM
good morning all :cool:
I didn't knew about that Opeth- Sideproject either.
oh well.

Ghost Reveries came out today, and I'm going to buy it in a bit!
and I haven't downloaded it..

pizzapie88
08-30-2005, 04:32 AM
Would Nile be considered a satanic band? I had a look myself, but i'm not the best at extracting meanings from lyrics :p

Apocalyptic Raids
08-30-2005, 04:38 AM
From the songs I've heard, No.

pizzapie88
08-30-2005, 04:55 AM
Yea, I didn't think they were. Most lyrics I looked at were about acient(sp?) Egypt, but I thought there may have been deeper maenings to them.

Apocalyptic Raids
08-30-2005, 07:30 AM
I posted this in the YSi thread, but I thought I might be able to get it here too. I need Phobophile by Cryptopsy from None So Live.

superpeer
08-30-2005, 07:34 AM
Would Nile be considered a satanic band? I had a look myself, but i'm not the best at extracting meanings from lyrics :p

Nah, they're not satanic.



Vio-lence (at least, I think that's you ;)), I'll upload it for you, check the YSI thread.

Apocalyptic Raids
08-30-2005, 07:38 AM
Thanks peer.

Vio-lence (at least, I think that's you ;) )
;)

Just call me Jon.

Stoic
08-30-2005, 07:39 AM
Me :p

These are all from the album A Warm Glimpse.

Unless you meant the Skepticism album Farmakon, in which case... damn :lol:

Thanks a lot man! I can now understand the comparison with Opeth but the death parts are more crunchy traditional tech death and the clean parts funky and fun :D

It sucks mate. I sit on here for an while before I go to bed and then hardly anybody posts then I wake up the next night and have to read though 4 pages on posts hahaha.

This is the death heads magic :p

Stoic, muchas thankas for the downloads!!

Spent alot of today just listening to the same songs, but then I wanted more :evil:
So, I'm looking for this album, but I'm probably going to have to download it ehh... :upset:

Oh well.

Cheers again, thanks :thumb:

You're welcome man, its my pleasure to whore my favourite bands :D Get the album, you wont get disappointed :)

hxxp://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=30PKZRVGCF56Z0PG4WK3OLQ7V1

This is the song I was talking about. Could an expert please listen and tell me if it is death metal.

Finally a BTBAM song without mellow parts! I agree with Dancin' Man, this is a coherent blend of various genres. It differs at some certain points from a traditional (tech) death band but yet it has many similarities I cant overlook. Well in my opinion this sounds like technical/melodic death metal with a well concealed -core touch (=metalcore-ish breakdowns and too trebely guitar tone and modern production for the death standards). The vocals are smartly done, dont sound screamo-ish at all to me (they're not pure death at certain parts as well). They kind remind me of Origin's as well :p To be honest, I wouldnt have problem cautiously calling this death metal. Does the rest of the album sound like this or other songs have mellow clean parts as well?

Magicaltroll
08-30-2005, 07:48 AM
Heavy Metal Machine is awesome, I love it \m/

@magicaltroll834: Sorry I wasn't on slsk to respond yesterday man, I'm away until Thursday now but I'm leaving slsk running, so just grab whatever you'd like. I won't be there to reply to messages though.
Thanks.
:D
Get what you need from me also when you get back.

NP-Carcass-Crepitating Bowel Erosion

I love this album, but I've tried listening to Reek Of Putrefaction (sp? This is the way it's labeled on my computer) and I don't think it's half as good. Maybe I haven't given it a chance?

:EDIT:
Omfg! You have Natasha in mp3! I love you! I've been trying to find this mp3 everywhere. Thanks. :D

Blind Guardian
08-30-2005, 08:45 AM
Death
Morbid Angel
Hypocrisy
Zyklon
Cryptopsy
Nile
Circle of Dead Children


I'm not a fan of the extremely harsh vocals but I love the music, especially the drumming.

LeperAffinity
08-30-2005, 09:11 AM
Have you heard Steel, the joke band with the members of Opeth?
STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL!!

I love that EP so much. I remember making a thread about them a few months back, but everyone ignored it :upset:

Lord Abortion
08-30-2005, 09:20 AM
Yeah I was probably going to pick up Butchered or Tomb Of The Mutilated
I would suggest live cannibalism, gore obsessed, the bleeding or gallery of suicide

Chris barnes' vocals are nly better than average on the bleeding and George is miles better than that too...

live cannibalism has all the great songs off the bleeding, (stripped, raped and strangled and staring through the eyes of the dead, to name two of the very best) and with a much better vocalist, tomb of the mutilated however, I cum blood and hammer smashed face apart, sucks in comparison the the later albums or mid period ones, and live cannibalism has those two one with george aswell.

butchered at birth is a good album, but again, has chris barnes on it, not so good, and besides, meat hook sodomy, covered with sores and gutted are on the live album too...

so, get gore obsessed and live cannibalism please...much much better than butchered or tomb...

I can prove this with uploads if you want...

HappyMarshmellow
08-30-2005, 12:28 PM
Would Nile be considered a satanic band? I had a look myself, but i'm not the best at extracting meanings from lyrics :p

I had some words with the local bible bashers, and since Nile doesn't preach Christian values it is in fact Satanic.

I then killed and ate the bible basher.

NP: Squarepusher - "I wish you could talk"

LegionsofMarduk
08-30-2005, 01:51 PM
I had some words with the local bible bashers, and since Nile doesn't preach Christian values it is in fact Satanic.

I then killed and ate the bible basher.

NP: Squarepusher - "I wish you could talk"

Gotta love that mentality. :rolleyes:

"OMG!!! It's not xtian therefore it's SATAN!!!"

NP: Wulfhere - Bathed In Enemies Blood

the2stranger
08-30-2005, 02:50 PM
anyone in to Adorned Brood?
never really cared about them, but they are actually quite cool
the vocal melodies are cool, and the main vocalists shrieks are nice, and the flute is refreshing :)
np: Adorned Brood - Old Great Master.

i am the robots
08-30-2005, 03:18 PM
Gotta love that mentality. :rolleyes:

"OMG!!! It's not xtian therefore it's SATAN!!!"

NP: Wulfhere - Bathed In Enemies Blood

lol, I love when people accuse all things of being Satanic.... then you get the crazy fundamentalists who think that if you hear music that is even remotely Satanic in any way, you are posessed.

I listen to music for the music, not for the beliefs man. :lol:

the2stranger
08-30-2005, 03:30 PM
I noticed you can listen to black and death metal without being evil
I enjoy the music, but I don't participate in the extreme stuff that comes with some of the music.

RiceMonster
08-30-2005, 03:34 PM
I noticed you can listen to black and death metal without being evil
I enjoy the music, but I don't participate in the extreme stuff that comes with some of the music.
No, this is impossible. As soon as you listen to music that doesn't preach christianity, you are giving into satan and "materialism".

Yeah, I hate the mentality as well. God forbid they be a little open minded.

Arrakakaka
08-30-2005, 03:35 PM
I'm starting to listen to more Napalm Death when they switched to straightforward death metal. They're actually pretty awesome.

Lord Abortion
08-30-2005, 03:50 PM
My drama teacher is an orthodox christian, he's an actul preacher bloke in his spare time, however, he's really cool in spite of this, I explained to him about the Norwegian BM movement when it came up in conversation, and how the rejection of christianity was due, largely to the Force and horrific slaughter that brought christianity into norway and the destruction of the traditional belief systems, aswell as simple teenage rebellion.
He was really appreciative of the information, and seemed to agree that this was an understandable thing... it was interesting to hear his views on it, I think that alot of the religious idiocy in the christian-Jewish religions is in America... the religious people here tend to be more open minded in my experience...

CaptainWaits
08-30-2005, 04:01 PM
anyone in to Adorned Brood?
never really cared about them, but they are actually quite cool
the vocal melodies are cool, and the main vocalists shrieks are nice, and the flute is refreshing :)
np: Adorned Brood - Old Great Master.
I feel the same. I checked them out in Neurotoxin's Folk Metal FG. Speaking of Folk Metal, I posted a bunch of full album downloads in my Folk/Viking Metal thread. Check them out Now! :thumb:

One Step Beyond
08-30-2005, 04:19 PM
can someone link me to the death metal sing-a-long thing? I don't remember the url.

Deathcrush
08-30-2005, 04:21 PM
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/deathmetalsingalong (http://www.google.com)

;)

the2stranger
08-30-2005, 04:22 PM
the growl karaoke
iniquity rocks \m/

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/growl.html


/goes to folk/viking thread

One Step Beyond
08-30-2005, 04:23 PM
Thanks, isn't there another link to it? I remember there being some weird url like wwiugfjgsjfgsdj.com or something. Thanks :thumb:

Deathcrush
08-30-2005, 04:26 PM
Wow, I was only kidding with my link, and I wasn't too far off! :eek:

:lol:

the2stranger
08-30-2005, 04:34 PM
my link is real ;);)

thee growl karaoke makes me want to listen to the real thing.

np: The Bullet Breath

Lord Abortion
08-30-2005, 04:42 PM
hell... iniquity are cool

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2004-08-04&res=l
randomly in there...

i am the robots
08-30-2005, 05:08 PM
Yes! Inquity freaking rules, the lyrics by Fagerland are ****ing epic, the rest of their lyrics are kinda juvenile though, Grime is an excellent album, also, since we're on the topic of Inquity, would Sludge Metal be considered a sub-genre of Death Metal or just another etreme Metal sub-genre that is very similar?

ninjamonkey
08-30-2005, 05:41 PM
No, sludge is not a sub-genre of death. Sludge can either be metal-y or rock-y, but I'd still call it a sub-genre of metal.

Huber
08-30-2005, 06:13 PM
Today when I'm on break I'm heading to go get my Atheist reissues. :cool:

i am the robots
08-30-2005, 06:34 PM
No, sludge is not a sub-genre of death. Sludge can either be metal-y or rock-y, but I'd still call it a sub-genre of metal.

I see, thank you!

hxxp://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1Q8892S83PV182PGH9RADOD7UX

Underoath - Giving Up Hurts the Most

non-emo Underoath material ++

Silenius
08-30-2005, 06:44 PM
^None of that is death.

The most "deathish" bands on there are arch enemy and in flames.

The whole list is basically nu-metal, classic rock/metal. This isn't the right thread for that kind of stuff.

Lord Abortion
08-30-2005, 06:46 PM
so anyone going to ring the hitman to have this guy killed or are we gonna do it ourselves?

/gets hacksaw
I'm going to cut this bloke up...

Silenius
08-30-2005, 06:49 PM
so anyone going to ring the hitman to have this guy killed or are we gonna do it ourselves?

/gets hacksaw
I'm going to cut this bloke up...:P
No dude, use tr00 weapons.

Gets spiked-club.
Gets inverted cross shingaurds.
Gets pentagram shield.

/ready

Lord Abortion
08-30-2005, 06:50 PM
nah, hacksaw is an old-school death weapon...

Iron Man
08-30-2005, 06:52 PM
No dude, use tr00 weapons.

Gets spiked-club.
Gets inverted cross shingaurds.
Gets pentagram shield.

/ready

Get these (http://immortal.battlegrim.net:8081/img/albums/big/sons_of_northern_darkness.jpg) shingaurds :p

Silenius
08-30-2005, 06:55 PM
Get these (http://immortal.battlegrim.net:8081/img/albums/big/sons_of_northern_darkness.jpg) shingaurds :p
No dude, then I won't make satans hockey team. :amaze: :lol:

Lord Abortion
08-30-2005, 06:57 PM
honestly if you played hockey in those, not only would you be the most awesome person on the team, but you wouldn't hurt your shins either

Jester06
08-30-2005, 06:57 PM
Im not.. BUT im bored so i will fill this is any way. i like some stuuf like that such as:

Pantera
Slayer
Vision Of Disorder
System Of A Down
SlipKnot

That is the HEAVY **** that i like but i like most Heavy Rock songs like:

Linkin Park
Rage Against the Machine
RHCP

etc. you now what i mean :p
they aint very heavy but i like slipknot, rhcp, pantera, rage, amd s.o.a.d, but hat lp

HappyMarshmellow
08-30-2005, 06:59 PM
they aint very heavy but i like slipknot, rhcp, pantera, rage, amd s.o.a.d, but hat lp

What are you doing in a death thread?

None of those are death metal. Get out of this thread.

Iron Man
08-30-2005, 06:59 PM
they aint very heavy but i like slipknot, rhcp, pantera, rage, amd s.o.a.d, but hat lp

Isn't that post a few years old? Try commenting on/replying to more recent messages if you can, plzkthx

Silenius
08-30-2005, 07:00 PM
What are you doing in a death thread?

None of those are death metal. Get out of this thread.
Woah, nice avatar dude.

:thumb:

Corporal Compendia
08-30-2005, 07:03 PM
nah, hacksaw is an old-school death weapon...

YEAH! :angry:

Along with like... Chainsaws, Hatchets, Big Butcher's knives, uh... Ropes!

:angry: Blood and Guts! :angry:

NP: Impetigo - Ultimo Mondo Cannibale

ninjamonkey
08-30-2005, 07:14 PM
Apparently the post was deleted.

Lord Abortion
08-30-2005, 07:26 PM
Yeah, my fault... when I was severing his limbs I got overexcited and hit a major artery, I was startled as all the blood splattered into my eyes... I was waving the saw around like crazy and hit his post, I severed it from the internet

HappyMarshmellow
08-30-2005, 07:35 PM
Woah, nice avatar dude.

:thumb:

Thanks man, I ripped it off a pr0n site :naughty:

One Step Beyond
08-30-2005, 08:31 PM
they aint very heavy but i like slipknot, rhcp, pantera, rage, amd s.o.a.d, but hat lp
Surely you jest.

RiceMonster
08-30-2005, 08:33 PM
Surely you jest.
Umm... What? :confused:

ninjamonkey
08-30-2005, 08:53 PM
Hahahaha.

Don't call me Sherly.

CaptainWaits
08-30-2005, 10:06 PM
Today when I'm on break I'm heading to go get my Atheist reissues. :cool:
Athesit Reissues eh? Wonder when, and even if, they'll be coming to my location.

i am the robots
08-30-2005, 11:18 PM
^None of that is death.

The most "deathish" bands on there are arch enemy and in flames.

The whole list is basically nu-metal, classic rock/metal. This isn't the right thread for that kind of stuff.

In Flames was Death up until Soundtrack, so I still consider them Death.

The Gates Of Heaven
08-31-2005, 02:50 AM
Melodic Death you idiot, Melodic Death is nothing like death metal.

Slapping Penguin
08-31-2005, 03:13 AM
Yes it is. It has Death Vocals, Death Blast beats the only thing different is the guitar is alot more melodic. Stop trying to look good.

WHOAAA I just heard THE CHAOS PATH by Arcturus GEEZ IT IS GOOD. I LOVE THE START.

Riva
08-31-2005, 03:16 AM
The Chaos Path is great. You can really hear the influence of The Trial by Pink Floyd. One of my all-time favourite Arcturus tracks.

Slapping Penguin
08-31-2005, 03:19 AM
Well I just copied the Wall and Dark on to my Itunes. I will have to listen to the Trial.

the2Stranger, after hearing that Growl Karakoa thing a while back it made me donwload the bullents breath and is now one of my faviorite DM songs. It is a great listen.

manuscriptreplica
08-31-2005, 03:24 AM
/listens to the Trial.

Hey you're probably right! Did you hear them say that or what

Slapping Penguin
08-31-2005, 03:27 AM
Yeah I just litened to it too you could diffentetely hear the influences.

Is Ulver Black Metal. If it is I might have to investigate as I was looking on the Arcturus website and was a Ulver album metioned about Willam Blake which makes me think again what I thought was just idiots in corpse paint might be actaully very deep and intellegent.

Riva
08-31-2005, 03:30 AM
/listens to the Trial.

Hey you're probably right! Did you hear them say that or what

Nah, I just guessed from the way Garm sounded slightly British, had that strange sort of catch at the end of his voice, and the general feel of the song musically.

manuscriptreplica
08-31-2005, 03:32 AM
Vortex was on that track. But it is very bouncy, 2 feel ish, like the Trial.

Riva
08-31-2005, 03:38 AM
Oops, I though Garm did La Masquerade Infernale.

But yeah, great band all around, and my eyes really perked up when I first heard The Chaos Path. :p

manuscriptreplica
08-31-2005, 03:51 AM
Garm did, Vortex randomly did The Chaos path.

Slapping Penguin
08-31-2005, 04:01 AM
Well put it this way I am glad to have investigated these guys.

The Gates Of Heaven
08-31-2005, 04:02 AM
Yes it is. It has Death Vocals, Death Blast beats the only thing different is the guitar is alot more melodic. Stop trying to look good.

WHOAAA I just heard THE CHAOS PATH by Arcturus GEEZ IT IS GOOD. I LOVE THE START.

Haha, am I being told off by an Opeth/Arcturus fan? LOL!

It has weak vocals, and blast beats don't mean anything. The guitar as you said is more melodic.

Melodic 'death' metal is just pure ****, while death metal is amazingly good (in some cases)

BoboTheRagingHobo
08-31-2005, 04:10 AM
Yeah I just litened to it too you could diffentetely hear the influences.

Is Ulver Black Metal. If it is I might have to investigate as I was looking on the Arcturus website and was a Ulver album metioned about Willam Blake which makes me think again what I thought was just idiots in corpse paint might be actaully very deep and intellegent.


Ulver is all kinds of genres, from folk to black to electronica to ambient.

Themes From William Blake's The Marriage of Heaven and Hell is the name of that Ulver album by the way.

And to think that black metal is just a bunch of idiots prancing around in corpse paint like idiots is quite the ignorant statement.

Slapping Penguin
08-31-2005, 06:30 AM
Oh I agree it is extemely ignorant. Don't think for one second I am justifing myself, its a poor opinion that I and you should not take too seriously. I just hold lightely because I don't know any better and I am just judging on their looks and personas. Don't worry I THOUGHT it was pack of idiots in corpse paint. Never said IT WAS.

Haha, am I being told off by an Opeth/Arcturus fan? LOL!

It has weak vocals, and blast beats don't mean anything. The guitar as you said is more melodic.

Melodic 'death' metal is just pure ****, while death metal is amazingly good (in some cases)

Yeah, real funny :rolleyes: Yes blast beats do mean something as they a key point in defining basic Death Metal.

Death metal is usually identified by extreme brutality, intensity and speed. "Blast beats" are frequently used to add to the intensity of the music. The vocals - death grunts, (guttural roars) or "growls", as they are often called, are rough and often incomprehensible (sometimes derisively called "Cookie Monster vocals" by those who dislike this vocal style).

www.Answer.com

To YOU the vocals may be weak. To say Melodic Death is pure **** is a statement only an idiot would make. Fine you may not like it then fine don't like it. I can live with that everybody likes what they like. Like you I also enjoy plain Death Metal but to say Melodeth is rubbish you just established your self as a twat. Think before you post and don't try to impress a bunch of Death Head by acting extreme.

LegionsofMarduk
08-31-2005, 06:37 AM
Melodic Death you idiot, Melodic Death is nothing like death metal.

Melodic death metal is a sub-genre of death metal. It has some of the same basic characteristics of death metal. Therefore melodic death is something like death metal.

Haha, am I being told off by an Opeth/Arcturus fan? LOL!

It has weak vocals, and blast beats don't mean anything. The guitar as you said is more melodic.

Melodic 'death' metal is just pure ****, while death metal is amazingly good (in some cases)

And he's getting told of by someone who, as far as I can tell, likes nothing? And can only name a few bands that were (probably) looked up on Metal-Archives? Or can you name some more? Because the only ones I've actually seen you name have been the more known LLN bands.

Seriously...I agree about In Flames (newer stuff at any rate). But don't be a ****ing little cockwhore all the time. Melodic death can be great if done right...ie: Eucharist, Carcass, old At The Gates etc.

Slapping Penguin
08-31-2005, 06:42 AM
Thanks Marduk.

(Gives a wigger hand gesture and says "MX Pride fo real)

Melodic death metal is generally considered an offshoot of death metal. The subgenre contains more melodic guitar riffs and solos, which are sometimes acoustic, and also occasional 'clean' singing as opposed to traditional death grunt vocals. The song structures are generally more progressive, using diverse themes throughout the song. Death and Morbid Angel, often considered the "godfathers" of death metal, are primary influences on the genre, but its progenators are still a mystery. Some credit In Flames as the band which popularised the sub-genre. Melodic Death metal, though from the same geographic area as Black Metal, rarely speaks of Satanism or the downfall of Christianity, but has more poetic themes, which vary greatly.

www.answers.com

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 08:14 AM
/restrains self from flaming melo-death randomly

What I don't understand is why former and sub BM bands like Old man's child, dimmu borgir and, yes Cradle of filth, get pretty much flamed relentlessly in places wheras melo-death is held as a legitamate genre?
they hold pretty much the same places in the genres IMO

Stoic
08-31-2005, 08:17 AM
there's a chasm between commercial NWOSDM and the rest of melodic death that some people seem not to grasp.

superpeer
08-31-2005, 08:20 AM
I never understood why Old Man's Child get so much hating anyway, apart from their relations to CoF and Dimmu. Their last album was superb.

NJMetalMeister
08-31-2005, 08:21 AM
I never understood why Old Man's Child get so much hating anyway, apart from their relations to CoF and Dimmu. Their last album was superb.

I would say thats probably why. Although i love OMC

superpeer
08-31-2005, 08:27 AM
That's a pretty stupid reason then, oh no, Nick Barker Plays (Played) in OMC, they have the same awesome drummer that Dimmu Borgir had, o noes. :eek:

Can't say much about Galder either. Ok, they do look kinda goofy. :p But they're all great musicians. But if looking goofy was a reason to hate a band, black metal would die quickly, as would Power Metal.

By the way: Is metal-archives gone?

Stoic
08-31-2005, 08:29 AM
it looks so dammit! :angry:

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 08:30 AM
Nick Barker was also the drummer until midian for Cradle of filth, I think that was the point that you could say the music evolved totally away from BM, although Cruelty and DAHE aren't specifically BM, you can see the elements are still there

Arucard
08-31-2005, 08:30 AM
Ok, is the argument above about Gothenburg Melodic Death? Or Melodic Death Metal? Because you Melodic Death Metal is obviously Death metal, listen to Arsis and tell me the blast beats and vocals are 'weak.'

If you are talking about In Flames, i agree to an extent, but other Gothenburg like Carcass and At The Gates is also obviously DM.

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 08:36 AM
I'm really getting into the couple of enthroned songs I have on my computer

seven plagues, seven wraths is cool...

superpeer
08-31-2005, 08:53 AM
I'm really getting into the couple of enthroned songs I have on my computer

seven plagues, seven wraths is cool...

Enthroned rule. :thumb:

One Step Beyond
08-31-2005, 10:21 AM
Haha, am I being told off by an Opeth/Arcturus fan? LOL!

If you have a problem with those two bands, you aren't going to be well-liked aroudn here.

Stoic
08-31-2005, 10:28 AM
(directed to The Gates Of Heaven) Sure you can not like some highly respected bands but you have no right to act in such an immature and insulting way.

Ad Absurdum
08-31-2005, 10:29 AM
Actually, there's a few people here who don't like Opeth, myslef included. The fellation of Arcturus is pretty much universal in this thread though.

Anyway, Carcass - Reek Of Putrefaction and Napalm Death - Scum both turned up today. Two essentials I guess, I've not listened to them yet though.

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 10:30 AM
Alright then, I'd like some Arcturus uploads then...I've never heard them...

Stoic
08-31-2005, 10:31 AM
Alright then, I'd like some Arcturus uploads then...I've never heard them...

I'll do it ;)

Ad Absurdum
08-31-2005, 10:32 AM
Alright then, I'd like some Arcturus uploads then...I've never heard them...
I've only got on album (The Sham Mirrors), but I'll edit in a couple of tracks from it :thumb:

http://perpetualagony.no-ip.info/files

Last three tracks from it, 'Star-Crossed' is my favourite.

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 10:33 AM
cheers...It might help my liking of melo-death

Stoic
08-31-2005, 10:33 AM
Good, I'll upload a couple off La Masquerade Infernale then :)

cheers...It might help my liking of melo-death

arcturus are avant garde ;)

One Step Beyond
08-31-2005, 10:35 AM
cheers...It might help my liking of melo-death
They are not melodeath. They are symphonic black metal, or symphonc extreme metal, since some people are under the assumption they have no BM qualities.

EDIT: Stoic said avant garde, thats a better classification :p

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 10:40 AM
OK my bad... I'll give them a listen ...

LegionsofMarduk
08-31-2005, 10:42 AM
Seeing as we're whoring out Arcturus on this page...Stoic's got La Masquerade Infernale covered...Azathoth's got The Sham Mirrors covered...I'll post a song from Asper Heims Symphonia. I haven't heard La Masquerade Infernale, but Aspera is more black metal than The Sham Mirrors. Very symphonic black metal.

hxxp://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TRWISSXY03BS114DCTESNQ5UT

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 10:46 AM
So...I listened to Star-crossed....

Wow...wow...wow

My word this band is good...The piano intro is beautiful

Stoic
08-31-2005, 10:53 AM
Arcturus - The Chaos Path
hxxp://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=36A07XUIL7PFI0ZNB4A8EQPH2V

Arcturus - Painting My Horror
hxxp://rapidshare.de/files/4575610/07_Painting_My_Horror.mp3.html

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 10:55 AM
I love the jerky, horror film piano, it reminds me of a mix between emperor and the first CoF album...

Stoic
08-31-2005, 11:22 AM
Seeing as we're whoring out Arcturus on this page...Stoic's got La Masquerade Infernale covered...Azathoth's got The Sham Mirrors covered...I'll post a song from Asper Heims Symphonia. I haven't heard La Masquerade Infernale, but Aspera is more black metal than The Sham Mirrors. Very symphonic black metal.

hxxp://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TRWISSXY03BS114DCTESNQ5UT

Thanks a lot Legions, I havent heard much off this particular album.

Ollie, if you want some melodic death education I think ninjamonkey would be glad to help ;)

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 11:43 AM
No, not at the moment, I need to go to the hospital, do something about my jaw


It dropped when I heard Arcturus you see...

Dancin' Man
08-31-2005, 11:59 AM
No, not at the moment, I need to go to the hospital, do something about my jaw


It dropped when I heard Arcturus you see...


What cheese.

Anyway, I think LMI has been the best Arcturus so far. It was more experimental than both AHS and SM and just had better song writing overall I thought.

Arucard
08-31-2005, 12:08 PM
'Radical Cut' with Ihsahn from Emperor is a very solid track, its also very brutal.

Vortigon
08-31-2005, 12:34 PM
Hmm, I was just thinking, wouldn't it be interesting if Vortex started his own band where he wrote all(or most) of the music. I mean everyone knows he has incredible vocal capabilities, but from what I've heard of music he's had a larger hand in writing than usual he seems to have some awesome, off-key ideas. I think it would be cool anyway.

This comes to mind cause I'm listening to "Ad Noctum" by Borknagar.

ninjamonkey
08-31-2005, 12:47 PM
Melodic death metal is generally considered an offshoot of death metal. The subgenre contains more melodic guitar riffs and solos, which are sometimes acoustic, and also occasional 'clean' singing as opposed to traditional death grunt vocals. The song structures are generally more progressive, using diverse themes throughout the song. Death and Morbid Angel, often considered the "godfathers" of death metal, are primary influences on the genre, but its progenators are still a mystery. Some credit In Flames as the band which popularised the sub-genre. Melodic Death metal, though from the same geographic area as Black Metal, rarely speaks of Satanism or the downfall of Christianity, but has more poetic themes, which vary greatly.
I really dont think that's a very good description.

I can't think of any melodeath (gothenburg) that has clean singing, nor can i think of any clean singing examples in melodic death metal.

/restrains self from flaming melo-death randomly

What I don't understand is why former and sub BM bands like Old man's child, dimmu borgir and, yes Cradle of filth, get pretty much flamed relentlessly in places wheras melo-death is held as a legitamate genre?
they hold pretty much the same places in the genres IMO
Please explain your point. It doesn't make any sense to me.
Actually, there's a few people here who don't like Opeth, myslef included. The fellation of Arcturus is pretty much universal in this thread though.

Anyway, Carcass - Reek Of Putrefaction and Napalm Death - Scum both turned up today. Two essentials I guess, I've not listened to them yet though.
Eh, I don't "get" Arcturus. I've heard one or two albums, and it just didn't hit me as being awesome. I guess I could try again.
Thanks a lot Legions, I havent heard much off this particular album.

Ollie, if you want some melodic death education I think ninjamonkey would be glad to help ;)
hehe

Dancin' Man
08-31-2005, 01:20 PM
Melodic death as I see it is simply metal with a huge focus on melody. Technicality, originality and heaviness are all secondary. I don't actully understand why it is called melodic death metal except that it was created by bands that had been death metal started playing it. I see maybe a closer link to power metal than death metal as far as MDM goes.

Corporal Compendia
08-31-2005, 02:02 PM
If you have a problem with those two bands, you aren't going to be well-liked aroudn here.

Sure he is! I like him already!!

So guys, is it just me, or does CBT - Opus(sy) VI groove and crush like no other album?! No... no it's not me.

I acquired this album today along with:

Dead Infection - Surgical Disembowelment
Agathocles - Superiority Overdose DVD
Pungent Stench/Brutal Glockel Terror Split Tape
Soothsayer - To Be A Real Terrorist Demo Tape

I rock.

Stoic
08-31-2005, 02:09 PM
uh...Is there any band liked by ALL of us in here?!

Atheist come to my mind. Is there anyone who doesnt like them?

Dancin' Man
08-31-2005, 02:16 PM
Just so everyone knows, The Chaos Path is the best Arcturus song released so far. Hopefully the new album, with Vortex sounds like it.

Is there anyone here who doesn't like Atheist or Death or Emperor?

Stoic - did you edit your post? I think you did because I posted this before I saw you enter Atheist into it.

Corporal Compendia
08-31-2005, 02:26 PM
Atheist wins. Discussion over.

Time to listen to Dead Infection... Their first full length. I've not yet heard this one, but I am quite excited!

Stoic
08-31-2005, 02:29 PM
Corporal Compendia makes me feel like a death metal newbie, I hardly recognize the bands he mentions :upset:

Dancin' Man: ermm maybe I did so, I dont remember :S

ninjamonkey
08-31-2005, 02:40 PM
Corporal Compendia makes me feel like a death metal newbie, I hardly recognize the bands he mentions :upset:

Dancin' Man: ermm maybe I did so, I dont remember :S
I think most of the bands he mentions are grind.

Lilitu are amazing.

VeedBok
08-31-2005, 02:48 PM
Death Metal's Cool

Corporal Compendia
08-31-2005, 02:50 PM
I think most of the bands he mentions are grind.

This is true. Many of them are grindcore or goregrind. Seems I am alone in liking that around here though...

Buuuut I still loves the old school death metal too. I know there are many that like that in this thread.

LegionsofMarduk
08-31-2005, 02:57 PM
This is true. Many of them are grindcore or goregrind. Seems I am alone in liking that around here though...

Buuuut I still loves the old school death metal too. I know there are many that like that in this thread.

Nah. You're not the only one. I just don't listen to it as often as I do death or black metal. Though I was listening to Leng T'che the other day.

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 03:01 PM
/explains point...

Right, you have sub or former BM bands, like Old Man's child, Dimmu borgir and, Yes, CoF, which get alot of flaming... then you have Normal BM right?

on the DM side of things you have Arch enemy, in flames and other bands from Gothenburg... which don't get as much flaming...then you have good DM (sorry, couldn't help myself)

I can't see why one offshoot of a genre for BM should get flamed mercilessly and the same sort of commercial offshoot for DM doesn't get as much flaming, and is held as a legitamate genre...

Dancin' Man
08-31-2005, 03:03 PM
I dig the tech/core side of grind. Bands like Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza, The End or Ed Gein.

Can anyone find me audio of Origin? I hear they are really awesome and I saw a band (Animosity. Death metal from San Fransisco, I'll post their album Empires later. Their drummer is the likely replacement for Sleep Terror if that means anything :thumb: ) who had toured with them. They said they are awesome and to check them out. I looked at MA and in fact, they are reviewed as being quite good but look a little boring for my tastes maybe. Also, I want to check out Cephalic Carnage, Burnt by the Sun and Dim Mak.

Dancin' Man
08-31-2005, 03:06 PM
/explains point...

Right, you have sub or former BM bands, like Old Man's child, Dimmu borgir and, Yes, CoF, which get alot of flaming... then you have Normal BM right?

on the DM side of things you have Arch enemy, in flames and other bands from Gothenburg... which don't get as much flaming...then you have good DM (sorry, couldn't help myself)

I can't see why one offshoot of a genre for BM should get flamed mercilessly and the same sort of commercial offshoot for DM doesn't get as much flaming, and is held as a legitamate genre...

My guess is because for the most part, black metal is less impressive than death metal. That is to say, one doesn't need to be an amazing instrumentalist to be in a black metal band whereas death metal (or IMO power metal for MDM) takes a bit more skill. That's just me though. Since I normally hate boring death metal, I tend to just entirely ignore those bands and have a slightly lopsided view of the genre.

Ad Absurdum
08-31-2005, 03:23 PM
Can anyone find me audio of Origin? I hear they are really awesome and I saw a band (Animosity. Death metal from San Fransisco, I'll post their album Empires later. Their drummer is the likely replacement for Sleep Terror if that means anything :thumb: ) who had toured with them. They said they are awesome and to check them out. I looked at MA and in fact, they are reviewed as being quite good but look a little boring for my tastes maybe. Also, I want to check out Cephalic Carnage, Burnt by the Sun and Dim Mak.
You want Origin tracks? Again, I've only got one album, but I'll stick a few tracks on my server, [url]http://86.131.146.250/files/[url] ('Implosion of Eternity is the best song. Ever.)

Edit - Go straight to my IP address up there, the re-direction thing isn't working for some reason.

Deathcrush
08-31-2005, 03:28 PM
/explains point...

Right, you have sub or former BM bands, like Old Man's child, Dimmu borgir and, Yes, CoF, which get alot of flaming... then you have Normal BM right?

on the DM side of things you have Arch enemy, in flames and other bands from Gothenburg... which don't get as much flaming...then you have good DM (sorry, couldn't help myself)

I can't see why one offshoot of a genre for BM should get flamed mercilessly and the same sort of commercial offshoot for DM doesn't get as much flaming, and is held as a legitamate genre...

Because those Old Man's Child, Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth are ridiculous; even most symphonic black metal fans will agree.

And it's as simple as that.

Though I was listening to Leng T'che the other day.
:D

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 03:32 PM
I can't see how Arch enemy are less commercial than cradle are...

Deathcrush
08-31-2005, 03:35 PM
Death metal is a more commercial genre than black metal is (infact, it was because of death metal's commercial status that black metal took off); so bands who 'sell out' are treated much more harshly in the BM genre than in DM.

Arch Enemy are a joke too, but:

http://ruthlessreviews.com/pics4/bm/bm4.jpg

RiceMonster
08-31-2005, 04:06 PM
If you have a problem with those two bands, you aren't going to be well-liked aroudn here.
He already isn't well-liked around here.

Stoic
08-31-2005, 05:27 PM
I can't see how Arch enemy are less commercial than cradle are...

Seriously, I've never thought death heads held that much respect for the popular gothenburg melo death so, theres no need to whine :p

Can anyone find me audio of Origin?

how come you never noticed my shameless origin whoring?! :angry:

AHEM MISTER!
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9407971&postcount=23719

Magicaltroll
08-31-2005, 05:36 PM
This is true. Many of them are grindcore or goregrind. Seems I am alone in liking that around here though...

Buuuut I still loves the old school death metal too. I know there are many that like that in this thread.
I need to know some more Grind stuff like Pig Destroyer, or Napalm Death. REALLY good bands ;) Like the best you can think of.

And if you can help me, thanks in advance.

ninjamonkey
08-31-2005, 05:37 PM
/explains point...

Right, you have sub or former BM bands, like Old Man's child, Dimmu borgir and, Yes, CoF, which get alot of flaming... then you have Normal BM right?

on the DM side of things you have Arch enemy, in flames and other bands from Gothenburg... which don't get as much flaming...then you have good DM (sorry, couldn't help myself)

I can't see why one offshoot of a genre for BM should get flamed mercilessly and the same sort of commercial offshoot for DM doesn't get as much flaming, and is held as a legitamate genre...
I think there is an equal amount of flamming so I am confused. Plenty of people like CoF, (new) Dimmu Borgir, and plenty of people flame (new) In Flames, etc.
Seriously, I've never thought death heads held that much respect for the popular gothenburg melo death so, theres no need to whine :p
That's what I was getting at.

Although I like Gothenburg styled death metal. Not new In Flames, but old In Flames and the like.
I dig the tech/core side of grind. Bands like Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza, The End or Ed Gein.

Can anyone find me audio of Origin? I hear they are really awesome and I saw a band (Animosity. Death metal from San Fransisco, I'll post their album Empires later. Their drummer is the likely replacement for Sleep Terror if that means anything :thumb: ) who had toured with them. They said they are awesome and to check them out. I looked at MA and in fact, they are reviewed as being quite good but look a little boring for my tastes maybe. Also, I want to check out Cephalic Carnage, Burnt by the Sun and Dim Mak.
Hmm, I thought Animosity was metalcore.
Death metal is a more commercial genre than black metal is (infact, it was because of death metal's commercial status that black metal took off); so bands who 'sell out' are treated much more harshly in the BM genre than in DM.

Arch Enemy are a joke too, but:

http://ruthlessreviews.com/pics4/bm/bm4.jpg
Interesting point, however, at the same time, black metal is far more about the image than death metal (i.e. corpse paint, purposely having bad sound quality, etc...).

superpeer
08-31-2005, 05:42 PM
Oh, Cradle of Filth are a lot more commercial than Arch enemy. The band shirt ratio over here is 100:1, at least.

It's gotten to the point where I think that when someone over 25 wears a CoF shirt, I think it looks childish, just because I'm so used to see them on kids.


and Deathcrush, like I said, I love Old Man's Child, have you heard In Defiance of existence? It's solid. Not drowned in keys.

Corporal Compendia
08-31-2005, 05:45 PM
I dig the tech/core side of grind. Bands like Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza, The End or Ed Gein.

TDTDE? The End? So in other words... you don't listen grind? :amaze:

Corporal Compendia
08-31-2005, 05:48 PM
I need to know some more Grind stuff like Pig Destroyer, or Napalm Death. REALLY good bands ;) Like the best you can think of.

Okay, but first you help me... what era of Napalm Death? Early in the career? Middle era? New stuff? Which albums do you like?

Though I can think of two band right off the bat that you might just like...

Rotten Sound and Pigsty

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 05:49 PM
Oh, Cradle of Filth are a lot more commercial than Arch enemy. The band shirt ratio over here is 100:1, at least.

It's gotten to the point where I think that when someone over 25 wears a CoF shirt, I think it looks childish, just because I'm so used to see them on kids.


and Deathcrush, like I said, I love Old Man's Child, have you heard In Defiance of existence? It's solid. Not drowned in keys.
Seriously...when I go to the next cradle show in Newcastle...I'm going with an axe

superpeer
08-31-2005, 05:52 PM
Seriously...when I go to the next cradle show in Newcastle...I'm going with an axe

Or wait until they tour with Rhapsody, so you can bring a sword and exploit its ambivalence.

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 05:53 PM
Or wait until they tour with Rhapsody, so you can bring a sword and exploit its ambivalence.
Nah, I'll use the same axe for dragonforce to get usage

Magicaltroll
08-31-2005, 05:54 PM
Okay, but first you help me... what era of Napalm Death? Early in the career? Middle era? New stuff? Which albums do you like?

Though I can think of two band right off the bat that you might just like...

Rotten Sound and Pigsty
From Enslavement To Obliteration and Scum are the only two I've heard, and I want to hear more stuff like that. I've also heard The Code Is Red... Long Live The Code, but I don't think it's that great so far.

And thanks, I'll check them out.

Corporal Compendia
08-31-2005, 06:15 PM
Good, that's the answer I was hoping for.

Repulsion are a must then if you haven't heard them, but they get mentioned around here fairly often, so you probably know them.

Here's a few others I highly recommend.

Discordance Axis
Cripple Bastards
BIRDFLESH!
Engorged
Assuck
Denak
Gride

Deathcrush
08-31-2005, 06:27 PM
Interesting point, however, at the same time, black metal is far more about the image than death metal (i.e. corpse paint, purposely having bad sound quality, etc...).

Black metal's image is important because it's very serious music.

I hate these totally clown-painted 'extreme' BM bands that are like 'SATTANIKK EXXEKUTION OV DAATH!' so I dismiss them as joke bands; the 'glam rock' of black metal.

I mean that BM bands have to maintain a dark, mysterious image, or else the listening experience is not as great.

Listening to a cheery, party loving black metal musician isn't the same as listening to a depressed, abhorrent soul who mutilates himself and hates humanity.

See what I'm getting at?

Stoic
08-31-2005, 06:32 PM
Black metal is serious music and coprpse paint is symbolic representing basic folds of the genre right? How about bands who dont use corpse paint?

Magicaltroll
08-31-2005, 06:33 PM
Good, that's the answer I was hoping for.

Repulsion are a must then if you haven't heard them, but they get mentioned around here fairly often, so you probably know them.

Here's a few others I highly recommend.

Discordance Axis
Cripple Bastards
BIRDFLESH!
Engorged
Assuck
Denak
Gride
Thank you :D
I really appreciate it.

NP-Rotten Sound-Cry

Black metal's image is important because it's very serious music.

I hate these totally clown-painted 'extreme' BM bands that are like 'SATTANIKK EXXEKUTION OV DAATH!' so I dismiss them as joke bands; the 'glam rock' of black metal.

I mean that BM bands have to maintain a dark, mysterious image, or else the listening experience is not as great.

Listening to a cheery, party loving black metal musician isn't the same as listening to a depressed, abhorrent soul who mutilates himself and hates humanity.

See what I'm getting at?
I get what you mean.

I know you're really into Black Metal, so I wanted to ask you a question.
Which Mayhem album has the cover of a guy with half a face, slit wrists, and a butcher knnife at his side? My friend said there was an album with that cover, he said it was Dead or Euronymous, but I don't think it's either of them. But then again, I'm a noob in Black Metal.

So can yo help me out, if this is even true?

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 06:34 PM
Black metal's image is important because it's very serious music.

Listening to a cheery, party loving black metal musician isn't the same as listening to a depressed, abhorrent soul who mutilates himself and hates humanity.

exactly, that's why Euronymous said about the Deathcrush era band being not what he was wanting because they were a "party" band at the time.

Remember, Mayhem's first gig was in a barn to 20 people playing Metallica covers

Deathcrush
08-31-2005, 06:40 PM
I know you're really into Black Metal, so I wanted to ask you a question.
Which Mayhem album has the cover of a guy with half a face, slit wrists, and a butcher knnife at his side? My friend said there was an album with that cover, he said it was Dead or Euronymous, but I don't think it's either of them. But then again, I'm a noob in Black Metal.

So can yo help me out, if this is even true?

The description you have of it is pretty wrong, however:

Dawn of the Black Hearts (bootleg)

http://www.blackmetal.com/evilshop/bmstore/scans0901/mayhemdawn.jpg

It's only an artists impression of the photograph which Euronymous took of Dead's dead (hah!) body upon discovering it.

Interesting thing I noticed, the knife is on top of the gun, and clearly the gun was used to commit the suicide. :confused:

Corporal Compendia
08-31-2005, 06:41 PM
Thank you :D
I really appreciate it.

NP-Rotten Sound-Cry

There's plenty more where that came from... but, that should be enough for now! When you're ready to hunt down more, let me know!

ninjamonkey
08-31-2005, 07:21 PM
The description you have of it is pretty wrong, however:

Dawn of the Black Hearts (bootleg)

http://www.blackmetal.com/evilshop/bmstore/scans0901/mayhemdawn.jpg

It's only an artists impression of the photograph which Euronymous took of Dead's dead (hah!) body upon discovering it.

Interesting thing I noticed, the knife is on top of the gun, and clearly the gun was used to commit the suicide. :confused:
Apparently done to make it more dramatic.


I'm checking out Animosity.

Magicaltroll
08-31-2005, 07:27 PM
There's plenty more where that came from... but, that should be enough for now! When you're ready to hunt down more, let me know!
I will trust me :D
Pig Sty is incredible.

Dancin' Man
08-31-2005, 07:35 PM
TDTDE? The End? So in other words... you don't listen grind? :amaze:

I listen to Pig Destroyer and ABorted too but I prefer the really chaotic technical stuff that sits more with core than grind.

Riva
08-31-2005, 07:38 PM
The description you have of it is pretty wrong, however:

Dawn of the Black Hearts (bootleg)

http://www.blackmetal.com/evilshop/bmstore/scans0901/mayhemdawn.jpg

It's only an artists impression of the photograph which Euronymous took of Dead's dead (hah!) body upon discovering it.

Interesting thing I noticed, the knife is on top of the gun, and clearly the gun was used to commit the suicide. :confused:

With the most straight forward suicide message ever:
"Sorry about the mess".

But yeah, the way the gun is lying is all wrong for a suicide. You can tell it is an artist's impression, unless Euronymous did some constructive repositioning.

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 07:43 PM
With the most straight forward suicide message ever:
"Sorry about the mess".

But yeah, the way the gun is lying is all wrong for a suicide. You can tell it is an artist's impression, unless Euronymous did some constructive repositioning.
And the best T-shirt to kill oneself in...
I wouldn't put it past Euronymous to make it more dramatic...

Magicaltroll
08-31-2005, 07:49 PM
So Dead really did that to himself? The whole slit wrists/blown off head thing.
And if not, how'd it happen?

Riva
08-31-2005, 07:52 PM
Yeah, I can't remember the exact reason he was depressed, but he commited suicide not long after the band started getting big.

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 07:54 PM
I believe Euronymous said to Hellhammer "Dead's gone home" as a way of breaking the news, apparently they believed he was better off dead because of his depression,
I will research this further tonight to remind me of the exact details, post it in the morning/afternoon

Deathcrush
08-31-2005, 08:04 PM
Euronymous must've placed it like that, because I've seen the real photograph and it's nearly exactly the same as the artist's impression.

And yes, Dead was a psychopathic depressant; he believed that he was actually dead due to a near death experience (illness related) as a child. If I remember correctly.

He was depressed partially because he wanted to see evil, but all he saw were people roaming around "in baseball caps" [- Euronymous quote] and other sorts. You get the picture; the world was pathetic and too based around 'love' for him to handle. He wanted to see evil and hatred.

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 08:06 PM
The best thing is the burying his stage clothes underground for three months to get the appropriate rotting.

that's ****ing cool...

Deathcrush
08-31-2005, 08:07 PM
And inhaling from a jar that contained a dead crow before every performance, so he had the reek of death in his system as he sang.

Terrorzone
08-31-2005, 08:09 PM
While on the subject, I've been meaning to ask how are Maniac's vocals compared to Dead or Atilla's?

Deathcrush
08-31-2005, 08:10 PM
Utterly atrocious. He's only worthy on the album Deathcrush.

Ignore the rest of the Mayhem albums with him on it.

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 08:11 PM
And inhaling from a jar that contained a dead crow before every performance, so he had the reek of death in his system as he sang.
How awesome can a Singer get?!

Deathcrush
08-31-2005, 08:12 PM
Well, being deceased isn't too cool.

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 08:14 PM
Well, being deceased isn't too cool.
On the contrary, I would suspect he's extremely cold now...

Deathcrush
08-31-2005, 08:16 PM
That was discraceful.

Guards, seize him!

Lord Abortion
08-31-2005, 08:19 PM
Apologies for the ****ing terrible pun

Deathcrush
08-31-2005, 08:20 PM
It will take more than apologizing to heal these bullet-wounds.

/loads M-16

ninjamonkey
08-31-2005, 09:47 PM
He was depressed partially because he wanted to see evil, but all he saw were people roaming around "in baseball caps" [- Euronymous quote] and other sorts. You get the picture; the world was pathetic and too based around 'love' for him to handle. He wanted to see evil and hatred.
Haha. Isn't that a little weird?

One Step Beyond
08-31-2005, 10:00 PM
Haha. Isn't that ****ing crazy??
Fix'd and yes.

HappyMarshmellow
08-31-2005, 10:30 PM
It will take more than apologizing to heal these bullet-wounds.

/loads M-16

I've got an AR-15 from Vietnam with the original wire cutter barrel end that was later recalled by the government. It shoots pretty nice

One Step Beyond
08-31-2005, 10:37 PM
I hate guns :(

I am fine with any other weapons though. I have a small assortment of nifty looking daggers, swords, and such that I get at flea markets. They are worth anythingm but they are fun to mess with my friends with. We have samurai/viking battles all the time :cool:

Not very smart, I know, but it is fun.

Slapping Penguin
09-01-2005, 01:23 AM
The Dead sucide story is on Metal Archives.

Yeah I have a Samurai sword I picked up in China (Yes I know they were not samurai but it is a samurai sword) for 40 bucks Aus. It is all black with silver guard and scabbed tip with a caving of a dragon on it.

Haha. Isn't that a little weird? I think so. Is Mayhem even really evil now. I mean without Varg, Euro and Dead. Is Hellhammer even bad. How did they get so screwed up.

One Step Beyond
09-01-2005, 02:05 AM
I don't think Hellhammer is 'evil'. He just seems to be an amazing drummer that goes from band to band providing us with wonderful music. It must be hard to get that evil feeling out when your primary instrument is drums, heh.

i am the robots
09-01-2005, 02:26 AM
The Dead sucide story is on Metal Archives.

Yeah I have a Samurai sword I picked up in China (Yes I know they were not samurai but it is a samurai sword) for 40 bucks Aus. It is all black with silver guard and scabbed tip with a caving of a dragon on it.

I think so. Is Mayhem even really evil now. I mean without Varg, Euro and Dead. Is Hellhammer even bad. How did they get so screwed up.

Samurai sword? Last time I checked it was called a "Katana"

Also, Varg isn't necessarily evil, just really wierd... he is very ignorant, and has gotten more so with time, but originall he just had a kind of "Viking" perspective, also, he killed Euronymous in self defense :thumb:.

Ihsahn
09-01-2005, 03:10 AM
Euronymous must've placed it like that, because I've seen the real photograph and it's nearly exactly the same as the artist's impression.

And yes, Dead was a psychopathic depressant; he believed that he was actually dead due to a near death experience (illness related) as a child. If I remember correctly.

He was depressed partially because he wanted to see evil, but all he saw were people roaming around "in baseball caps" [- Euronymous quote] and other sorts. You get the picture; the world was pathetic and too based around 'love' for him to handle. He wanted to see evil and hatred.


See, that "psychopathic depressant" thing is something I find sortof hard to believe. People talk about him always roaming around in corpse paint and being really serious, quiet and reserved, and never smiling etc... However, I have a video of a Mayhem rehearsal with Dead and Euronymous, and before they go in the barn he's joking around oustide with whoever's filming, and seems pretty happy-go-lucky, smiling and laughing.

the2stranger
09-01-2005, 05:05 AM
I dig the tech/core side of grind. Bands like Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza, The End or Ed Gein.

Can anyone find me audio of Origin? I hear they are really awesome and I saw a band (Animosity. Death metal from San Fransisco, I'll post their album Empires later. Their drummer is the likely replacement for Sleep Terror if that means anything :thumb: ) who had toured with them. They said they are awesome and to check them out. I looked at MA and in fact, they are reviewed as being quite good but look a little boring for my tastes maybe. Also, I want to check out Cephalic Carnage, Burnt by the Sun and Dim Mak.


didn't you read my wrie-up about them last week? :eek:
it had a full album download, the link mightt still be working if you're quick

S-T-R-A-N-G-E stuff on Cephalic Carnage (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384755)

Lord Abortion
09-01-2005, 05:48 AM
See, that "psychopathic depressant" thing is something I find sortof hard to believe. People talk about him always roaming around in corpse paint and being really serious, quiet and reserved, and never smiling etc... However, I have a video of a Mayhem rehearsal with Dead and Euronymous, and before they go in the barn he's joking around oustide with whoever's filming, and seems pretty happy-go-lucky, smiling and laughing.
Is this a computer video that can be uploaded??

The Gates Of Heaven
09-01-2005, 06:24 AM
If you have a problem with those two bands, you aren't going to be well-liked aroudn here.

Shut up. I don't care to fit in here. I've found 2 people here that I talk to outside of the forums, and a further 3 or 4 who know what they are talking about, and even less that have a decent knowledge of extreme metal. Do not try to harness my opinion. Why should I have to change my tastes to conform to your pathetic views?

Lord Abortion
09-01-2005, 06:27 AM
anyone else like neoplasmah?
they seem all tech-death or melo-death, but I like them quite a bit.

Stoic
09-01-2005, 07:50 AM
anyone else like neoplasmah?
they seem all tech-death or melo-death, but I like them quite a bit.


I do (cheers RCA :D)! I found their album in a mailorder but the bastard hasnt replied yet :angry:

craggyisland
09-01-2005, 08:08 AM
Omfg! You have Natasha in mp3! I love you! I've been trying to find this mp3 everywhere. Thanks. :D
Haha, cheers :lol:

I love that EP so much. I remember making a thread about them a few months back, but everyone ignored it :upset:
I didn't, that's the only reason I found out about them. :thumb:

Rotten Sound
Yeah, they're great.

Discordance Axis
I couldn't get into them though, despite the fact that I like the music a lot, the vocalist sounds too much like Seth Putnam for my liking.

When I got back today I had 9 CDs waiting for me, including Cryptopsy, Arghoslent, Mortifera, Velvet Cacoon, Xasthur and others, so that should keep me entertained for the next few days.

Bartender
09-01-2005, 08:09 AM
EDIT: ^Which Cryptopsy, and which Arghoslent?

Just finished catching up (kind of). You guys post a lot in five weeks.

Has it really been nine months since Legions kid was born? :-/ It seems like maybe three, at most.

Anyway, whilst away I picked up (amongst other things) Reverend Bizarre's Harbinger of Metal EP from the slim metal pickings I found. It's almost as good as it is long.

craggyisland
09-01-2005, 08:13 AM
EDIT: ^Which Cryptopsy, and which Arghoslent?

Just finished catching up (kind of). You guys post a lot in five weeks.

Has it really been nine months since Legions kid was born? :-/ It seems like maybe three, at most.

Anyway, whilst away I picked up (amongst other things) Reverend Bizarre's Harbinger of Metal EP from the slim metal pickings I found. It's almost as good as it is long.
Blasphemy Made Flesh, And Then You'll Beg, and Incorrigible Bigotry, all of which I've had downloaded for a while and not yet bought.

Long time no see :wave:

Stoic
09-01-2005, 08:21 AM
Anyway, whilst away I picked up (amongst other things) Reverend Bizarre's Harbinger of Metal EP from the slim metal pickings I found. It's almost as good as it is long.

I bought this one too only to find out that this kind of doom is not for me (Zzzz) :p

the2stranger
09-01-2005, 08:24 AM
you're bringin down Doom metal? :mad:
it áint all that bad, although I don't like the classic stuff too much.

are you having trouble with msn?

Stoic
09-01-2005, 08:27 AM
you're bringin down Doom metal? :mad:
it áint all that bad, although I don't like the classic stuff too much.

are you having trouble with msn?

actually yes dammit :angry:! Its been tortuting me since yesterday and I've never dealt with something similar. I'm working on it :(

theresareason
09-01-2005, 08:28 AM
Its all about Pig Destroyer and Cryptopsy

the2stranger
09-01-2005, 08:29 AM
actually yes dammit :angry:! Its been tortuting me since yesterday and I've never dealt with something similar. I'm working on it :(

ok :(
good luck with fixing it..

Bartender
09-01-2005, 08:38 AM
I bought this one too only to find out that this kind of doom is not for me (Zzzz) :p

I think I also prefer slightly livelier doom (lively by doom metal standards, anyway) most of the time, but not all the time, so I like it, provided I have time to listen to it.


Blasphemy Made Flesh, And Then You'll Beg, and Incorrigible Bigotry, all of which I've had downloaded for a while and not yet bought.

Long time no see :wave:

Yep. Hopefully back for a long while now, though.

Good albums, too. Blasphemy.. and Incorrigible Bigotry anyway, I've not heard ATYB in full.

Lord Abortion
09-01-2005, 08:40 AM
I need more doom, actually, I've only really got into candlemass and Cathedral

Bartender
09-01-2005, 08:43 AM
If you like Candlemass, you'd probably like Solitude Aeturnus. I might be able to upload a song of theirs for you, but I'm not sure what the YSI situation around here is like now.

Lord Abortion
09-01-2005, 08:45 AM
If you like Candlemass, you'd probably like Solitude Aeturnus. I might be able to upload a song of theirs for you, but I'm not sure what the YSI situation around here is like now.
it's alright, as long as you use the HXXP thing when putting the link in, so it's no longer a url, they can't trace

Stoic
09-01-2005, 08:49 AM
If you like Candlemass, you'd probably like Solitude Aeturnus. I might be able to upload a song of theirs for you, but I'm not sure what the YSI situation around here is like now.

are you still on 56k?

Arucard
09-01-2005, 09:00 AM
I got called a Goth today by some emo kids at school :shock:

Thats never happened before. I think it was the Emperor shirt (i swear i never take this shirt of, i love it so much), but a Goth?!?! It was the only piece of black clothing i was wearing.

NP : Vintersorg : Till Fjalls

Stoic
09-01-2005, 09:05 AM
I got called a Goth today by some emo kids at school :shock:

Thats never happened before. I think it was the Emperor shirt (i swear i never take this shirt of, i love it so much), but a Goth?!?! It was the only piece of black clothing i was wearing.


not too long ago:

OmgZZ!! Check out my new Emperor shirt. On the back it says ' Now that i am gone, put thorns on my grave' or something corny like that.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/_HeAvYArMs_/Picture001.jpg

:lol::lol::lol:

Arucard
09-01-2005, 09:08 AM
:(

I can't stop talking about that shirt. I really wanted this Dark Throne one with the Soulside Journey cover on the front, but on the back it said something like 'We will rape your dreams of heaven' or something. I was abit like :\ I don't wanna get beaten down by the KKK.

Stoic
09-01-2005, 09:11 AM
KKK?

Btw, wont you upload the freaking crowpath for me? :mad:

LeperAffinity
09-01-2005, 09:13 AM
Appalling Spawn - Manthra of Hope

hxxp://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NX9L4S1X9T0U1MZ0TKXPBOMQ3


Oops, meant to post that in the tech-metal thread. But whatever, it's here if anyone hasn't heard AS(Pre-Lykathe).

Bartender
09-01-2005, 09:13 AM
are you still on 56k?

Nope; that's why I've spent the last week (since getting back) without internet. We've got a decent connection at home now.

Arucard
09-01-2005, 09:15 AM
KKK?

Btw, wont you upload the freaking crowpath for me? :mad:

Already done. Check out the thread homie.

the2stranger
09-01-2005, 09:17 AM
I got called a Goth today by some emo kids at school :shock:

Thats never happened before. I think it was the Emperor shirt (i swear i never take this shirt of, i love it so much), but a Goth?!?! It was the only piece of black clothing i was wearing.

NP : Vintersorg : Till Fjalls

I got called a goth too once.
I was like: WTF?!!!? :lol:
I was wearing a hawaii shirt for god's sake.
must be the long hair maybe, or more likely, the iignorance of the peole who called me a goff in the first place

Arucard
09-01-2005, 09:19 AM
Yah, people do have no idea what goth is. I also get abused by the 'real' goths for not liking Korn and Slipknot. I can't win!

Stoic
09-01-2005, 09:22 AM
Appalling Spawn - Manthra of Hope

hxxp://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NX9L4S1X9T0U1MZ0TKXPBOMQ3


Thank you! I asked Dancin Man already but he often ignores my posts ( :angry: )

Nope; that's why I've spent the last week (since getting back) without internet. We've got a decent connection at home now.

This is good!

/waits for many uploads :D

Already done. Check out the thread homie.

you rule :thumb:

craggyisland
09-01-2005, 09:32 AM
I got called a goth too once.
I was like: WTF?!!!? :lol:
I was wearing a hawaii shirt for god's sake.
must be the long hair maybe, or more likely, the iignorance of the peole who called me a goff in the first place
I get called it constantly, for some reason usually when I wear my Jack Daniels t-shirt. I seriously have no idea why that is, but most people my age around here are useless wastes of oxygen, who spend most of their time throwing eggs at houses and such.

/rant

Oops, meant to post that in the tech-metal thread. But whatever, it's here if anyone hasn't heard AS(Pre-Lykathe).
I have the album on slsk if anyone wants it.

the2stranger
09-01-2005, 09:36 AM
Yah, people do have no idea what goth is. I also get abused by the 'real' goths for not liking Korn and Slipknot. I can't win!

I know, there are hardly any people with whom I can discuss music in real live.
the boards is my only oppertunity to discuss good metal, instead of all those poseurs that whine how talaented corey taylor is, and how deep his lyrics are, and how good fieldy's bassplaying is, are trying to own me.

that's why I don't really like to go out, and meet' """metalheads""" from my area

/pukes

Arucard
09-01-2005, 09:38 AM
Same here really, altough i gradually got my mate Jamie into DM, through a mixture of DragonForce and CoB. He went out and bought the new Obituary album!

Ad Absurdum
09-01-2005,