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Shattered_Future
08-01-2005, 10:44 PM
I disagree...
I'm not sure what to call them though, but not that.

Supposedly, they are called "math metal" which is a load of crap.

I'd say they are technical metal...though it sounds like a bunch of chaotic noise to me.

EDIT: Meshuggah are a bit different than DEP...they're both technical metal though.

CaptainWaits
08-01-2005, 10:46 PM
EDIT: Meshuggah are a bit different than DEP...they're both technical metal though.

Whatever the case, Meshuggah are far better. I'm seeing DEP in Gigantour though, so we'll see what type of show they can put on.

Dancin' Man
08-01-2005, 10:51 PM
DEP = progressive hardcore
Meshuggah = Progressive industrial

I will argue math metal to the death. Calling them a branch of tech metal is acceptable. Just ask Kittens though, his first week I trolled him until he was convinced math metal didn't exist.

br3ad_man
08-02-2005, 01:48 AM
The new Opeth rules. Just thought I should say.

And does anyone know any really good Christian metal bands. Really heavy preferably.

Horde.

Jondur
08-02-2005, 03:34 AM
How about Solitude Aeturnus? Jondur had once suggested them to me but I dont remember whether he mentioned an album or not.

I always recommend Through The Darkest Hour as a first SA album.

comptonassrobert
08-02-2005, 03:48 AM
Opeth similar bands - Novembre, Dead Soul Tribe (more proggy. No growling), October Tide, (Procupine Tree's frontman does a lot of work with Opeth though the bands are very different. Check them out, Aggaloch (more folk based), and if I think of anymore I'll let you know. My brain is slow tonight.

they sounded interesting so i went on their official website and listened to their samples and they sound basically a mix of Tool and Opeth and that sounds interesting as hell. do you by any chance have a song or two of theirs that you like that you could upload? =]

funk_metalguitarist
08-02-2005, 05:12 AM
Has anyone heard of The Amenta? They are Australian industrial death/black metal band with Dave Haley (drummer from Psycroptic). They got an album called Occasus and I think it's great.

ArandomBassist
08-02-2005, 05:26 AM
Yeah I got that album.... I was just coming in to say some stuff about them, weird.

Ad Absurdum
08-02-2005, 07:04 AM
WHo is this Jonitti character that keeps mooching off me then complaining when my router shuts him down?
He took a few albums off me on AIM, mostlyy generic death metal like Cannibal Corpse and Deicide. He's only like 12 or something which is cool, but he didn't like any black metal because it was anti-christian :p.

what kind of metal is dillenger escape plan?
Dancin' Man mentioned progressive hardcore, that's a good descritipion. They have jazzy interludes, even some jazz-influenced heavier riffs, grindcore type riffs; they're pretty insane. Great band though.

Stoic
08-02-2005, 08:42 AM
I bought Origin- Echoes of Decimation, and I must say it is an awesome album. Its to bad that its only 26 minutes long :(.

yay! :D

/origin fanboy

I found it annoyingly short too but origin write short songs in general (the grind influence). I soon got over it considering the great amount of riffs and the fact that they dont stick to a single one for more than a few seconds!


For some reason, I really like them. It's really weird, because they're one of those bands that trys to be the most screwed up thing you've ever heard. And usually I hate those bands, but these guys are different.

screwed up in what way? What genre are they?

DEP = progressive hardcore
Meshuggah = Progressive industrial

I will argue math metal to the death. Calling them a branch of tech metal is acceptable. Just ask Kittens though, his first week I trolled him until he was convinced math metal didn't exist.

Yeah, you had once trolled me too and I think I've understand what you mean. What's the point in making up a new genre to label bands that could be easily described as progressive (although I prefer the term technical) hardcore. I still have my doubts though.

And to whoever classifies DEP as technical metal I think it's not very accurate since the -core influence is pretty obvious.

Great band though.

If only the didnt have these annoying screamo vocals. I cant be exposed into them for long time. I prefer Lord Worm (bleh) to any screamo (bleh, bleh!) :upset:.

I always recommend Through The Darkest Hour as a first SA album.

Alright, I'll see if I can download something off it.

can somebody direct me to death metal sounding similar to opeth

Disillusion. A really weird band a lot of people (including opeth fans) seem to like but I dont.

Good definition you got there, glad you like it :). Somehow it reminds me slightly of Lykathé, though they sound very different, I listen to them both for the same reason.I don't know why they split up, I think the main man, Schythcrawl or whatever he calls himself, has a new project called Ether. I've only heard one song from that band and didn't like it much. Relentless Abhorrence of Misery's Grievance is pretty much their full-length. The one I put up is a re-print with an added bonus track. They also have a record company-only promo, Scarred Memento. The overall production is better, however, I think the drum-production on their EP is better. This promo has as far as I know only 2 tunes, and both are available at their website;

Haunting (Their best song in my opinion)
http://trailsofanguish.metalhordes.com/media/Trails%20of%20Anguish%20-%20Scarred%20memento%20-%2001%20-%20Haunting.mp3

Spectral Life Scars
http://trailsofanguish.metalhordes.com/media/02.spectral_life_scars.mp3

Heads up, Death Heads! Chances are that you will appreciate this band.

What is this "same reason"?

Thanks a lot for the info and for mentioning this band in the first place :)

/downloads


VORTIGON
have you uploaded that atrophia red sun song yet? It was consisted of old members of Sceptic and the new vocalist of Decapitated

Vortigon
08-02-2005, 09:32 AM
Atrophia Red Sun - Abstract (http://rapidshare.de/files/3580541/Atrophia_Red_Sun_-_Twisted_Logic_-_02_-_Abstract.mp3.html)

Forgot all about that, sorry, there ye go.

Stoic
08-02-2005, 09:54 AM
Atrophia Red Sun - Abstract (http://rapidshare.de/files/3580541/Atrophia_Red_Sun_-_Twisted_Logic_-_02_-_Abstract.mp3.html)

Forgot all about that, sorry, there ye go.

Thank you!

It's not what I expected. It sounds like a mix of pseudo death with industrial elements, I'm not sure if I liked it. The new Decapitated vocalist sounds cool though and slightly better than the old one.

Unhappy_poet/bassist
08-02-2005, 11:05 AM
I question some of the bands you classify as death metal (Meshuggah!?). But yeah I like death metal.

Napalm Death
Death/MAntis
Deicide
Slayer
Children of Bodom
too name a few.

slaughteredfirst
08-02-2005, 11:11 AM
I question some of the bands you classify as death metal (Meshuggah!?). But yeah I like death metal.

Napalm Death
Death/MAntis
Deicide
Slayer
Children of Bodom
too name a few.

Children of Bodom are power metal.

Lord Abortion
08-02-2005, 11:14 AM
Children of Bodom are power metal.
and slayer are thrash

Magicaltroll
08-02-2005, 11:15 AM
And Napalm Death is Grind.

Shadows
08-02-2005, 11:18 AM
But is grind really that far removed from death metal? The older style of grind anyway...

Lord Abortion
08-02-2005, 11:26 AM
But is grind really that far removed from death metal? The older style of grind anyway...
nah, it's the missing link between DM and hardcore punk

Magicaltroll
08-02-2005, 11:36 AM
Actually, I was just kidding... I don't care that he posted bands that were Non-Death Metal.

I was just doing it to fit in :cool:

Ad Absurdum
08-02-2005, 11:40 AM
I just bought:
Immolation - Here In After
Origin - Informis Infinitas Inhumanitas
Obituary - World Demise

All for £17 :) Gotta love second hand stores

Dancin' Man
08-02-2005, 11:49 AM
I think that poist was very ironic but I'll let it slide.

NP Anaal Nathrakh - Insipid Flock
Awesome song.

Ad Absurdum
08-02-2005, 11:51 AM
I think that poist was very ironic but I'll let it slide.

NP Anaal Nathrakh - Insipid Flock
Awesome song.
My post was ironic?

Stoic
08-02-2005, 12:28 PM
Origin - Informis Infinitas Inhumanitas

YES! I'M NOT ALONE! :D

/please tell me it was my fanboysm that converted you

Second hand CD stores indeed rule. In the store I go I love it when they put low prices on stuff like Symphony X or Sonata Arctica probably because they're considered relatively unknown in comparison with Slayer and Metallica stuff in which they put high prices :p

RCA
08-02-2005, 12:37 PM
NP: Dismember - And So Is Life

/me wins

Dancin' Man
08-02-2005, 12:38 PM
My post was ironic?

Nonono, The kid with the sads up there, Unhappy Poet. He asks why we call Meshuggah death metal (though we don't, we just talk about them) and then makes a list where 3 of the bands out of 5 aren't DM anyway.

Stoic
08-02-2005, 12:40 PM
NP: Dismember - And So Is Life

/me wins

there you are! I'm asking again: are Windham Hell albums rare/difficult to find?

ninjamonkey
08-02-2005, 12:41 PM
Actually, I was just kidding... I don't care that he posted bands that were Non-Death Metal.

I was just doing it to fit in :cool:
Well, he said he questioned some of the classification done int he first post, like with Meshuggah, but then he goes ont o name several non-dm bands.
He took a few albums off me on AIM, mostlyy generic death metal like Cannibal Corpse and Deicide. He's only like 12 or something which is cool, but he didn't like any black metal because it was anti-christian :p.
Haha, Deicide, etc. isn't?

Speaking of DEP, wouldn't progressive metalcore be more appropriate than progressive hardcore?

Dancin' Man
08-02-2005, 12:45 PM
Speaking of DEP, wouldn't progressive metalcore be more appropriate than progressive hardcore?

No. They were more like grind core earlier but now have a more hardcore sound. They use mostly hardcore vocals and the riffs have a dissonance that metalcore lacks.

ninjamonkey
08-02-2005, 12:53 PM
But are they not considered a metal band? This dissonance is more characteristic of hardcore punk than progressive/technical metal?

RCA
08-02-2005, 12:56 PM
there you are! I'm asking again: are Windham Hell albums rare/difficult to find?

Moribund Cult (http://www.moribundcult.com)

They carry all of their albums. :thumb:

Stoic
08-02-2005, 12:56 PM
the riffage doesnt sound like technical metal to me. There's a chasm between DEP and a typical technical metal band.

lilpete86
08-02-2005, 01:20 PM
Whats your opinion of Paradise lost Jondur?

Their playing manchester later this year, worth me checking them out?

Unhappy_poet/bassist
08-02-2005, 01:55 PM
But is grind really that far removed from death metal? The older style of grind anyway...

I think all that **** is hogwash. Death Metal is all that thrash/grind/power whatever the ****. Blastbeats, deathgrunts (except slayer), dropped tuning, fast paced. All Death Metal **** all those stupid little classifications.

Now when we get to Black Metal, and Heavy MEtal, we see some recongnizable differences.

Stoic
08-02-2005, 02:04 PM
I think all that **** is hogwash. Death Metal is all that thrash/grind/power whatever the ****. Blastbeats, deathgrunts (except slayer), dropped tuning, fast paced. All Death Metal **** all those stupid little classifications.

Now when we get to Black Metal, and Heavy MEtal, we see some recongnizable differences.

these stupid little classifications actually matter a lot when you've been seriously digging the death scene.

They carry all of their albums.

ah, I dont worry, I've already found two of their albums for 6 euros each. Also, saw Mekong Delta on a CD store. Didnt buy anything though. I've spent a lot of money on CDs recently and I'm starting feeling guilty. Besides, I also want to buy some books :p


Whats your opinion of Paradise lost Jondur?

Their playing manchester later this year, worth me checking them out?

Since they dont play songs off their early albums I guess no :p

Btw, Primordial are coming here in September one day before Nile. Is anyone familiar with them?

Black_Warlock
08-02-2005, 02:21 PM
Nile going there. thats ****ing awsome, never heard of Primordial, what songs do u recomend?

LegionsofMarduk
08-02-2005, 02:22 PM
Whats your opinion of Paradise lost Jondur?

Their playing manchester later this year, worth me checking them out?

I think he likes them. I know he put one of their songs on at least one of the tape trades he and I did. And I like them as well.

Btw, Primordial are coming here in September one day before Nile. Is anyone familiar with them?

:eek:

I want to go! They're a great band. Black metalish with some folk/celtic influences. Storm Before Calm is a really good album. I think Jon prefers Spirit The Earth Aflame. They're both really good albums. I don't know what they're like live, but I woud definately like to see them if they ever tour around here. Give me a minute and I'll upload a song.

EDIT: Ok here is a Primordial song from Storm Before Calm.
hxxp://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=21WW0HDJY71TT2KAUFOCG9OVSC

Cardboard Headgear
08-02-2005, 02:36 PM
Btw, Primordial are coming here in September one day before Nile. Is anyone familiar with them? I've got Clam Before Storm and The Gathering Wilderness and both are excellent albums. From what I've heard of their older stuff, their sound had more black metal in it, but now they've got a really epic sound perfected on the new album that can be melodic black at times, but always has great atmosphere. Plus, the vocals have improved immensely just between the past two albums. You seem to be the only one I reply to lately in this forum!

EDIT: **** you Legions! That song you uploaded better be Sons of the Morrigan!

Stoic
08-02-2005, 02:45 PM
:eek:

I want to go! They're a great band. Black metalish with some folk/celtic influences. Storm Before Calm is a really good album. I think Jon prefers Spirit The Earth Aflame. They're both really good albums. I don't know what they're like live, but I woud definately like to see them if they ever tour around here. Give me a minute and I'll upload a song.

EDIT: Ok here is a Primordial song from Storm Before Calm.
hxxp://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=21WW0HDJY71TT2KAUFOCG9OVSC

yay, I didnt expect such a reaction, thank you :). Their style appeals to me I dont understand why I still havent checked. I really must find someone until the live shows (Uni might save me!). There are also rumors for 1349 Arcturus and Solitude Aeturnus this winter.

after listening to the song:

amazing! I'll definately look for Storm Before the Calm as well as the Solitude Aeturnus Jondur suggested.

You seem to be the only one I reply to lately in this forum!

so? Dont you like me? :(

yeh, maybe because now that is summer I'm on almost the whole day :p

Ad Absurdum
08-02-2005, 04:04 PM
YES! I'M NOT ALONE!

/please tell me it was my fanboysm that converted you

Second hand CD stores indeed rule. In the store I go I love it when they put low prices on stuff like Symphony X or Sonata Arctica probably because they're considered relatively unknown in comparison with Slayer and Metallica stuff in which they put high prices
I'm sure I've heard you mention them in here before, and someone else (or maybe it was you) mentioned they had a crazy drummer. So crazy drummer usually = fast drummer usually = fast music usually = music to kick my *** :). I'm ripping it to my computer now, so I'll give it a listen.

Nonono, The kid with the sads up there, Unhappy Poet. He asks why we call Meshuggah death metal (though we don't, we just talk about them) and then makes a list where 3 of the bands out of 5 aren't DM anyway.
Oh right, yeah. I get you now, and I agree.

Haha, Deicide, etc. isn't?
Haha, I pointed out the fact that one of the Deicide songs on the album he was taking off me was '**** Your God', but he just moaned about black metal production.

The Dillinger Escape Plan aren't really particularly metal, the vocals are hardcore and the guitar-work is just about everything but never out and out metal. The drummer seems like a jazz drummer who took too many amphetamines and decided to play with a hardcore band. They do Death covers live though :D

While it's being mentioned, are Nile any good live? I think they are pretty good, so I was planning on seeing them when they come to Edinburgh later on the year, just wanted to know if the show is worthwhile for someone who isn't the biggest fan.

RCA
08-02-2005, 04:05 PM
ah, I dont worry, I've already found two of their albums for 6 euros each. Also, saw Mekong Delta on a CD store. Didnt buy anything though. I've spent a lot of money on CDs recently and I'm starting feeling guilty. Besides, I also want to buy some books :p

Happen to remember which Mekong Delta it was?

Stoic
08-02-2005, 04:08 PM
Happen to remember which Mekong Delta it was?

Kaleidoscope

RCA
08-02-2005, 04:09 PM
Kaleidoscope

Solid album there. :thumb:

ninjamonkey
08-02-2005, 04:23 PM
While it's being mentioned, are Nile any good live? I think they are pretty good, so I was planning on seeing them when they come to Edinburgh later on the year, just wanted to know if the show is worthwhile for someone who isn't the biggest fan.
Nile are awesome live.

Stoic
08-02-2005, 04:31 PM
I'm sure I've heard you mention them in here before, and someone else (or maybe it was you) mentioned they had a crazy drummer. So crazy drummer usually = fast drummer usually = fast music usually = music to kick my *** :). I'm ripping it to my computer now, so I'll give it a listen.

Since you seem to pay attention to the drums I suppose you're a drummer, right?

While it's being mentioned, are Nile any good live? I think they are pretty good, so I was planning on seeing them when they come to Edinburgh later on the year, just wanted to know if the show is worthwhile for someone who isn't the biggest fan.

here's an old discussion on the matter:

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16816&page=787&pp=25

Corporal Compendia
08-02-2005, 04:42 PM
I think all that **** is hogwash. Death Metal is all that thrash/grind/power whatever the ****. Blastbeats, deathgrunts (except slayer), dropped tuning, fast paced. All Death Metal **** all those stupid little classifications.

Shutup 'tard! There's a big difference between Grindcore and Death Metal.

Ad Absurdum
08-02-2005, 05:24 PM
Since you seem to pay attention to the drums I suppose you're a drummer, right?

here's an old discussion on the matter:

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16816&page=787&pp=25

Nope :(, I'm (yet another) guitarist. I wanted to be a drummer, but I couldn't afford a kit.

Cheers for that link, I remember reading that story of Jondur's epic journey a while ago, but I wasn't too familiar with Autopsy or Nile so I didn't say anything. Now I can, and I'll say that Autopsy own Nile :smoke:. I reckon I'll go, if Nile's music goes well with alcohol then I'll be in heaven.

NP Origin - 'Inhuman' :D

Stoic
08-02-2005, 05:32 PM
Nope :(, I'm (yet another) guitarist. I wanted to be a drummer, but I couldn't afford a kit.

Cheers for that link, I remember reading that story of Jondur's epic journey a while ago, but I wasn't too familiar with Autopsy or Nile so I didn't say anything. Now I can, and I'll say that Autopsy own Nile :smoke:. I reckon I'll go, if Nile's music goes well with alcohol then I'll be in heaven.

NP Origin - 'Inhuman' :D

You've gained lots of experience since then (couple of months time). Death has naturally grown on you. \m/

So...how do you like the Origin so far :D

Ad Absurdum
08-02-2005, 05:38 PM
You've gained lots of experience since then (couple of months time). Death has naturally grown on you. \m/

So...how do you like the Origin so far :D

\m/

Do you play anything? What does everyone else play?

The Origin is amazing, I've not been this drawn into an album on first listen in a long time. It's got amazing musicianship but it all fits so well.

Stoic
08-02-2005, 05:45 PM
\m/

Do you play anything? What does everyone else play?

The Origin is amazing, I've not been this drawn into an album on first listen in a long time. It's got amazing musicianship but it all fits so well.

I'm more than glad :D

How come you havent heard me whinning about how much I suck on guitar. Yeh, I suck so much that I wouldnt call myself guitar player. I'm not patient enough or eager to devote much time :upset:

ninjamonkey
08-02-2005, 07:12 PM
Shutup 'tard! There's a big difference between Grindcore and Death Metal.
And a big difference between death and power metal haha.

Is there a difference between grind and grindcore? I htought they were the same, but I have a vague memory of someone saying otherwise.

Moses
08-02-2005, 07:15 PM
The Dillinger Escape Plan aren't really particularly metal, the vocals are hardcore and the guitar-work is just about everything but never out and out metal. The drummer seems like a jazz drummer who took too many amphetamines and decided to play with a hardcore band. They do Death covers live though :D

I'd say Dillenger is a metal band because they just sound like it to me. What else would they be? Avant Garde?

CaptainWaits
08-02-2005, 07:16 PM
Do you play anything? What does everyone else play?

If this is what this question is asking, I play drums, and have been playing for about 7 years.

RCA
08-02-2005, 07:17 PM
Is there a difference between grind and grindcore? I htought they were the same, but I have a vague memory of someone saying otherwise.

They are the same. :D

Moses
08-02-2005, 07:18 PM
I've been playing piano for 11 years, guitar for two, drums for one year, and bass for two and a half.

Lord Abortion
08-02-2005, 07:20 PM
drums for two years
vocals for about 6 months

RCA
08-02-2005, 07:23 PM
Guitar, 2 years
Trombone, 5 years (my skills haven't progressed much over the past 2 years though)
Bass, 2 years

I really want to learn how to play the piano.

Ad Absurdum
08-02-2005, 07:31 PM
I'd say Dillenger is a metal band because they just sound like it to me. What else would they be? Avant Garde?
We've just been discussing it, we're kind of debating whether Dillinger are classifiable as metal at all, as they are mainly hardcore. I'm of the opinion that they aren't that metal, some people will think they are more metal than I do. They aren't really avant-garde in my opinion, but there really isn't much point in continuing this discussion, the closest anyone is going to get is progressive hardcore or progressive metalcore.

Nice to see lot's of drummers, I hate the fact that everywhere I go everyone seems to be a guitarist. All the kid bands round here have 3 or 4 guitarists, all playing the same thing. I'd really like to learn to play piano too.

Moses
08-02-2005, 07:34 PM
I'd say that the only hardcore/metalcore thing about them is the vocals. I'd say it hits hard enough to be metal and probably should be classified as prog/somthing but not hardcore or metalcore.

LeperAffinity
08-02-2005, 11:54 PM
Wooo, just got back from seeing Origin(KILLED) and Malevolent Creation(not bad), ears still ringing. And even better, I grabbed a flyer and it turns out The Chasm is coming here next month :amaze:

RCA
08-02-2005, 11:59 PM
The Chasm! **** YEAH!

/me runs to wherever LA lives

LeperAffinity
08-03-2005, 12:17 AM
The Chasm! **** YEAH!

/me runs to wherever LA lives
That would be Boston :cool:

RCA
08-03-2005, 12:18 AM
That would be Boston :cool:

My birthplace! I'll have family to stay with too, so all will work out.

NP: Sodom - Masquerade In Blood (live)

LeperAffinity
08-03-2005, 12:28 AM
My birthplace! I'll have family to stay with too, so all will work out.
September 20th, got a month and a half to prepare. The full lineup is Sabbath, The Chasm, Watchmaker, Superchrist, and Dimentianon.

Also, something I noticed while looking at Origin's cds at the show: The cover for their EP A Coming into Existence, 1998( http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=21597 ) looks alot like Mithras's Worlds Beyond the Veil, 2003( http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=21581 ). Not sure if this had been pointed out before.

Jondur
08-03-2005, 04:34 AM
Btw, Primordial are coming here in September one day before Nile. Is anyone familiar with them?

They are amazing and one of the best live bands you'll ever see. Their new album "The Gathering Wilderness" is stunning - my favourite album of the year (ie better than the new Candlemass!)

Where are they playing?

br3ad_man
08-03-2005, 04:43 AM
Cool Nile are coming to Australia.

Chances of an all ages gig = 0. What are they like live?

lilpete86
08-03-2005, 04:50 AM
Are Paradise Lost worth checking out live jondur?

Their playing manchester later in the year.


Nile were ok live but they weren't anything special, although when I say them karl sanders was having alot of trouble with his rig.

br3ad_man
08-03-2005, 04:55 AM
If something wierd happens and they do an all ages gig, I'll probably go, depending on the price.

Apocalyptic Raids
08-03-2005, 05:00 AM
Cool Nile are coming to Australia.

Chances of an all ages gig = 0. What are they like live?
:upset:

When are they coming?

br3ad_man
08-03-2005, 05:02 AM
November, but that's all the info I have.

Jondur
08-03-2005, 05:14 AM
Are Paradise Lost worth checking out live jondur?

Their playing manchester later in the year.

Well, they haven't released anything worth hearing for well over 10 years. I still bow to Lost Paradise and Gothic but they spent most of the last decade sounding like Depeche Mode.

I've only seen them live once (at Donington) and they were good - Nick Holmes is the consumate Rock Star.

Apparently their newest album is a bit more metal. Live they tend to ignore all their early stuff which is a shame as there are some absolute classics! You might get "As I Die" if you're very lucky.


Nile were ok live but they weren't anything special, although when I say them karl sanders was having alot of trouble with his rig.

Seen Nile 4 times. Once they were great, twice they were ok if a bit dull, once they were dreadful.

TheTastyLettuce
08-03-2005, 05:16 AM
Anybody else read Terrorizer magazine here?

Zero Tolerance magazine maybe?

br3ad_man
08-03-2005, 05:18 AM
Seen Nile 4 times. Once they were great, twice they were ok if a bit dull, once they were dreadful.

Pretty hit or miss eh? We'll see. There are never any metal gigs in Australia.

Jondur
08-03-2005, 05:29 AM
Anybody else read Terrorizer magazine here?

Zero Tolerance magazine maybe?

No and No.

I used to read Terrorizer avidly (in fact I think I've got about 5 year's back issues stashed somewhere) but I don't know whether it got rubbish or I got bored but now I can't be bothered.

Zero Tolerance is just as bad. Although next month has an interview with The River so I'll get that one.

lilpete86
08-03-2005, 05:30 AM
Oh yeah The River got a small mention in last months issue of zero tolerance, I'm sure you already knew.

EDIT: Beaten

Jondur
08-03-2005, 05:36 AM
last months? was it an interview? I knew Chris and Steve did an interview but I thought it was next month. Can you do a scan?

lilpete86
08-03-2005, 05:40 AM
It just mentioned them in a list of doom bands to check out, this is all it said:

The River - www.doomriver.co.uk

Bleak Uk doom with mesmerising female vocals.
Recommended Listening - Different Ways To Be Haunted

Jondur
08-03-2005, 05:44 AM
Ah, well there's a feature on them next month.

I'm sure he meant mesmerising drums rather than banging on about the silly vox!

ninjamonkey
08-03-2005, 11:31 AM
September 20th, got a month and a half to prepare. The full lineup is Sabbath, The Chasm, Watchmaker, Superchrist, and Dimentianon.

Also, something I noticed while looking at Origin's cds at the show: The cover for their EP A Coming into Existence, 1998( http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=21597 ) looks alot like Mithras's Worlds Beyond the Veil, 2003( http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=21581 ). Not sure if this had been pointed out before.
Prepare for The Chasm to pronounce their name wrong!

And speaking of similar/same covers, Eternal Darkness - Doomed (1992) is the same as Dimmu Borgir - For All Tid (1994).

NP: Obscurity - Wrapped in Plastic EP

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 11:45 AM
Ah, well there's a feature on them next month.

I'm sure he meant mesmerising drums rather than banging on about the silly vox!

So modest.

Does anyone have any info on Old Man Gloom. All I know is that they are Aaron Turner of Isis' other band. They aren't on metal-Archives (which is stupid because they are definitely metal)

I pronounce chasm like orgasm with a hard c sound (cat)

Rothmans
08-03-2005, 11:45 AM
My god enslaved are one of the best bands ever, Isa is absoloutely amazing.

Rothmans
08-03-2005, 11:47 AM
So modest.

Does anyone have any info on Old Man Gloom. All I know is that they are Aaron Turner of Isis' other band. They aren't on metal-Archives (which is stupid because they are definitely metal)


Well I know Mike patton had something to do with them and they are supposed to be amazing I like what I have heard and there lyrics and all are strange really strange.

They talk about monkey feces taking over the world and all.

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 11:47 AM
My god enslaved are one of the best bands ever, Isa is absoloutely amazing.

Have you heard the song As Fire Swept Clean the Earth? Best song they ever wrote. It's the first track on Below the Lights. Great band. I think I did a write-up on them a few months ago.

Rothmans
08-03-2005, 11:49 AM
Have you heard the song As Fire Swept Clean the Earth? Best song they ever wrote. It's the first track on Below the Lights. Great band. I think I did a write-up on them a few months ago.


Cool I am gonna look for it then and look up for OMG.

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 11:58 AM
I checked. Old Man Gloom's promotion site is in Japanese and Tortuga records is still building their site. Hydrahead is only selling their albums.

Ihsahn
08-03-2005, 12:00 PM
September 20th, got a month and a half to prepare. The full lineup is Sabbath, The Chasm, Watchmaker, Superchrist, and Dimentianon.

Also, something I noticed while looking at Origin's cds at the show: The cover for their EP A Coming into Existence, 1998( http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=21597 ) looks alot like Mithras's Worlds Beyond the Veil, 2003( http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=21581 ). Not sure if this had been pointed out before.


That would be Sabbat. Sabbat is also playing in Montreal with Goat Horn and I forget who else (no The Chasm). I'm gonna have to work something out with transport and school because I can't miss this show. Who knows when Sabbat will show their faces in North America again.

NJMetalMeister
08-03-2005, 12:00 PM
!T.O.O.H.! albums to share!:

but look down for modofied links because im too lazy to correct two wrongs in one shot!

LeperAffinity
08-03-2005, 12:02 PM
That would be Sabbat. Sabbat is also playing in Montreal with Goat Horn and I forget who else (no The Chasm). I'm gonna have to work something out with transport and school because I can't miss this show. Who knows when Sabbat will show their faces in North America again.
Ah yes, I misread it on the flyer. Could've sworn that was an H at the end...

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 12:04 PM
!T.O.O.H.! albums to share!:

From Higher Will (http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1Q6JF3R0ACVD10D5HLYTN8PXYD)

Pod Vladou Bice (http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2X2MXPWRDAR1K2SHWQC730JTMO)

Thank you sir. might want to modify the links though, they'll be around longer. Just put x's in front of them.

Stoic
08-03-2005, 12:04 PM
I pronounce chasm like orgasm with a hard c sound (cat)

They pronounce it Ch(child)asm :p. ninjamonkey has seen them along with Arsis (lucky bastard).

Rothmans
08-03-2005, 12:05 PM
I checked. Old Man Gloom's promotion site is in Japanese and Tortuga records is still building their site. Hydrahead is only selling their albums.


Soulseek can get you them easily thats where I got mine.

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 12:07 PM
They pronounce it Ch(child)asm :p. ninjamonkey has seen them along with Arsis (lucky bastard).

Fools! I shall destroy them with my knowledge of pronunciation! I want to see Arsis.
I've got the music, I want to know something about them is all.

ATM
08-03-2005, 12:08 PM
I bet Arsis put on such a great show.

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 12:12 PM
Dammit, I think YSI just killed my TOOH uploads.

Ad Absurdum
08-03-2005, 12:23 PM
Anybody else read Terrorizer magazine here?

Zero Tolerance magazine maybe?

I've bought the last two issues of Terrorizer. It's pretty shite but it's better than all the other music mags widely available (except Classical Guitarist of course) aruond here. They had a feature on System Of A Down this month, which I was kind of disappointed, when last month they done bands like Obituary.

NP Dark Angel - 'Darkness Descends'

Stoic
08-03-2005, 12:26 PM
Dammit, I think YSI just killed my TOOH uploads.

why? what did it do? :confused:

NJMetalMeister
08-03-2005, 12:28 PM
here are modified links

hxxp://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1Q6JF3R0ACVD10D5HLYTN8PXYD

hxxp://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2X2MXPWRDAR1K2SHWQC730JTMO

for your badselves

Stoic
08-03-2005, 12:30 PM
yo Justin, what band are you doing next? :evil:

ninjamonkey
08-03-2005, 12:32 PM
So modest.

Does anyone have any info on Old Man Gloom. All I know is that they are Aaron Turner of Isis' other band. They aren't on metal-Archives (which is stupid because they are definitely metal)

I pronounce chasm like orgasm with a hard c sound (cat)
so like "corgasm"? jk

Yeah, you pronounce it right. The Chasm pronounce it like that but a "ch" sound like in "chips."
They pronounce it Ch(child)asm :p. ninjamonkey has seen them along with Arsis (lucky bastard).
Haha, yes. I win.
I've bought the last two issues of Terrorizer. It's pretty shite but it's better than all the other music mags widely available (except Classical Guitarist of course) aruond here. They had a feature on System Of A Down this month, which I was kind of disappointed, when last month they done bands like Obituary.

NP Dark Angel - 'Darkness Descends'
Why is Classical Guitarist so good?

NJMetalMeister
08-03-2005, 12:34 PM
havnt decided yet, so far its between Mourning Beloveth, Solstafir, and Taliandorogd

Stoic
08-03-2005, 12:38 PM
Do Mourning Beloveth, they're playing here in September I think, supporting Primordial :D

Ad Absurdum
08-03-2005, 12:39 PM
Why is Classical Guitarist so good?
Oh, I don't think many people here will find it intresting. It's just a good classical guitar magazine, has free sheet music, lot's of CD reviews and information about masterclasses and concerts, intreviews with classical guitarists. For me, it's an intresting read, to non-classical guitarists it would probably be boring as hell. It's called Classical Guitar btw, I mistyped.

NJMetalMeister
08-03-2005, 12:39 PM
haha alright, maybe ill do it later today. Class band, but what is really funny is after having met id say a good 20 irish people while i was in germany, just the way they are i can not picture any type of metal being made in that country at all, especially as top notch as mourning beloveth is

i am the robots
08-03-2005, 12:46 PM
Snape killed Jesus!, wow, Irish people in Germany? Doesn't make sense... ok.... I'll take your word for it.

NJMetalMeister
08-03-2005, 12:50 PM
Snape killed Jesus!, wow, Irish people in Germany? Doesn't make sense... ok.... I'll take your word for it.

in europe going abroad is much more common, if not mandatory in said country than it is in the US. Out of all the abroad students I met out in germany the majority of them were either from Italy or Ireland. Besides europe would be totally lost without 50 irish pubs in every city, and every single one of those pubs has almost an entirely irish staff.

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 12:51 PM
Drinking buddies.

Carnival in coal is awesome. I should do a reasons to be a fan on them. Wait.... NJMetalMeister. You are 12ouncesofhate aren't you? I just made the connection.

NJMetalMeister
08-03-2005, 12:59 PM
yes indeed, i surely am.

i am the robots
08-03-2005, 01:07 PM
in europe going abroad is much more common, if not mandatory in said country than it is in the US. Out of all the abroad students I met out in germany the majority of them were either from Italy or Ireland. Besides europe would be totally lost without 50 irish pubs in every city, and every single one of those pubs has almost an entirely irish staff.

Haahahaha, that's absolutely amazing... blegh, I know 3 European kids, an Italian, a German, and a Swede, I like befriending foreign exchange students :shifty eyes:

Corporal Compendia
08-03-2005, 01:48 PM
haha alright, maybe ill do it later today. Class band, but what is really funny is after having met id say a good 20 irish people while i was in germany, just the way they are i can not picture any type of metal being made in that country at all, especially as top notch as mourning beloveth is

So that's one band. How many more good Irish bands are there? 5? 6? Ireland certainly isn't the best metal country. That's for sure.

Corporal Compendia
08-03-2005, 01:51 PM
They pronounce it Ch(child)asm :p. ninjamonkey has seen them along with Arsis (lucky bastard).

Maybe so, but since when do Mexicans know how to speak English anyways? :lol:

Stoic
08-03-2005, 01:58 PM
So that's one band. How many more good Irish bands are there? 5? 6? Ireland certainly isn't the best metal country. That's for sure.

Cruachan, Primordial, Thin Lizzy...and here ends my knowledge...

/goes to MA

Rothmans
08-03-2005, 02:23 PM
Does anyone else think the folk/viking and black metal thread has kinda took alot away from this thread?

RCA
08-03-2005, 02:28 PM
Does anyone else think the folk/viking and black metal thread has kinda took alot away from this thread?

A little, but it has made finding a thread on a specific genre alot easier.

Rothmans
08-03-2005, 02:29 PM
A little, but it has made finding a thread on a specific genre alot easier.


Well yeah but I would rather go into this thread than the black metal one or the viking one.


Also another good band from Ireland are Abaddon Incarnate.

We barely have a scene around here all pretty much grunge layabouts but in the next couple of years there is gonna be alot of good bands for once.

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 02:30 PM
plus this is almost like a second community thread. I mean we've got this, classic rock and the real community thread, we just talk about music a lot in here.

RCA
08-03-2005, 02:31 PM
Yeah, this thread still overtakes the others. :thumb:

NP: Immolation - Into Everlasting Fire

Stoic
08-03-2005, 02:39 PM
yeh but for how long? It's already missed some of its glory due to the black thread! Whose idea was it? :angry:

RiceMonster
08-03-2005, 03:04 PM
yeh but for how long? It's already missed some of its glory due to the black thread! Whose idea was it? :angry:
Metal_Head<insertnumbers> created it, if that's what you're asking.

Stoic
08-03-2005, 03:05 PM
Metal_Head<insertnumbers> created it, if that's what you're asking.

ahh...speaking of lost regulars...

NJMetalMeister
08-03-2005, 03:31 PM
So that's one band. How many more good Irish bands are there? 5? 6? Ireland certainly isn't the best metal country. That's for sure.

Thats exactly what i was saying. You just repeated me.

Ad Absurdum
08-03-2005, 04:07 PM
Seeing as we have avant-garde lovers in here, does anyone have any <code> songs they could upload please? They have Aiwarikar from Ulver, Kvhost from VOID and some other bands I don't know. Apparently they sound a bit like Arcturus aswell.

Rothmans
08-03-2005, 04:15 PM
There really was no need for the black metal thread I have always seen this thread more of a extreme metal thread.

Ad Absurdum
08-03-2005, 04:17 PM
There really was no need for the black metal thread I have always seen this thread more of a extreme metal thread.
I agree, I had to post that request in both threads to make sure anyone who might have the album would notice. Still, postcount ++

Stoic
08-03-2005, 04:23 PM
Seeing as we have avant-garde lovers in here, does anyone have any <code> songs they could upload please? They have Aiwarikar from Ulver, Kvhost from VOID and some other bands I don't know. Apparently they sound a bit like Arcturus aswell.

I've heard of them and judging from various remarks they must be a quality band. Uploads will be indeed appreciated.

Is Solefald's Neonism out of print? I remember a while ago a guy was trading it on metal-rules and I didnt ****ing paid attention because I wasnt familiar with the band! :upset: At least I can find Pills against the ageless...

/NP Age of Silence and misses the2stranger...

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 06:59 PM
I've never even heard of <CODE>. I'll go hunting tonight.

LegionsofMarduk
08-03-2005, 08:04 PM
There really was no need for the black metal thread I have always seen this thread more of a extreme metal thread.

I don't post in that thread as much as I figured I would. It's an elitist circle jerk thread with a bunch of pissed off goth brats that think they're tr00. :rolleyes:

ninjamonkey
08-03-2005, 08:42 PM
Death heads thread for all extreme metal forever \m/

RCA
08-03-2005, 08:44 PM
Death heads thread for all extreme metal forever \m/

\m/(>_<)\m/

The Thrash Thread is as cool as this one though.

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 08:49 PM
/\ no. Death Heads Thread forever!

now downloading
Theory in Practice - The Armageddon Theories

NP PsyOpus - The Long Road to the Fourth Demention

RCA
08-03-2005, 08:55 PM
You never go in the thrash thread, so stfu.

NP: Autopsy - Charred Remains

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 09:00 PM
In fact, I have more posts in Classic rock than Thrash. 2. I was looking for Badmoon.

RCA
08-03-2005, 09:03 PM
In fact, I have more posts in Classic rock than Thrash. 2. I was looking for Badmoon.

Yeah um, what?

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 09:06 PM
errr.... Long live metal!


/a narrow escape

RCA
08-03-2005, 09:07 PM
errr.... Long live metal!


/a narrow escape

:lol:

Yes! *death growl*

NP: Abomination - Rape Of The Grave

ninjamonkey
08-03-2005, 09:28 PM
I never understood why there was a thrash thread either. Thrash belongs here.

Apocalyptic Raids
08-03-2005, 09:29 PM
Some Thrash would belong here, some wouldn't.

Dancin' Man
08-03-2005, 09:30 PM
Coroner belongs here. Coroner is awesome.

Apocalyptic Raids
08-03-2005, 09:45 PM
Coroner belongs here. Coroner is awesome.
Indeed they are :cool:

Ad Absurdum
08-03-2005, 09:50 PM
NP: Autopsy - Charred Remains
NP: Autopsy - 'Impending Dead', this album owns.

The prefer this thread to the thrash one (I lurk in the thrash one but don't post). I think there's better discussion here.

ninjamonkey
08-03-2005, 10:02 PM
Some Thrash would belong here, some wouldn't.
I don't see why.

I say all metal belongs here.

RCA
08-03-2005, 10:47 PM
ALOT of thrash could be discussed here, simply because the best thrash is always half another genre like death/thrash or black/thrash.

/me is a thrash junkie

Oh, and I found out that listening to Into The Grave outside at full blast will cause citizens of small asian countries to implode.

NP: Grave - For Your God (POSEURS DIE!) :evil:

Freezing Moon
08-04-2005, 02:41 AM
ALOT of thrash could be discussed here, simply because the best thrash is always half another genre like death/thrash or black/thrash.

/me is a thrash junkie

Oh, and I found out that listening to Into The Grave outside at full blast will cause citizens of small asian countries to implode.

NP: Grave - For Your God (POSEURS DIE!) :evil:

I really like Death/Thrash and Black/Thrash. Especially Black/Thrash, like Deströyer 666 and Aura Noir. I don't know a ton of bands though.

For Death/Thrash Torture Squad is one of my favorites, great stuff. Especially the song "Pandemonium".
/listens


I don't mind having seperate threads, though I think that just this thread is a bit better. I learn much more if there are different genres included in the discussion. Not to say I haven't found out some cool bands because of the Black Metal thread.

Apocalyptic Raids
08-04-2005, 02:53 AM
I learn much more if there are different genres included in the discussion.
'Tis the magic of this thread. :thumb:

Freezing Moon
08-04-2005, 03:03 AM
'Tis the magic of this thread. :thumb:

Exactly. So much good stuff is mentioned here.

NP: Draugar - I Come As A Curse \m/


By the way, who did you used to be? Vio-Lence?

Apocalyptic Raids
08-04-2005, 03:08 AM
Exactly. So much good stuff is mentioned here.

NP: Draugar - I Come As A Curse \m/


By the way, who did you used to be? Vio-Lence?
Yes.

Freezing Moon
08-04-2005, 03:12 AM
Yes.

Excellent, I win.

I'm bored, so I want to start my next thread, but M-A isn't up right now. :angry:

NP: Aura Noir

The Gates Of Heaven
08-04-2005, 03:21 AM
Blackened thrash: Tormentor \m/. Look out for Anno Domini that is an amazing album. If only you could browse my files on soulseek...

Jondur
08-04-2005, 03:35 AM
Do Mourning Beloveth, they're playing here in September I think, supporting Primordial :D

WHERE IS THIS GIG?! Tell me dammit!

Stoic
08-04-2005, 03:38 AM
WHERE IS THIS GIG?! Tell me dammit!

Unfortunately for you, it's where I live: Thessaloniki, Greece :p

Jondur
08-04-2005, 03:39 AM
So that's one band. How many more good Irish bands are there? 5? 6? Ireland certainly isn't the best metal country. That's for sure.

Primordial
SCALD
Honey for Christ
Abbadon Incarnate
Geasa
Mourning Beloveth
Hexxed
Putrefy
Scavenger

check out metalireland.com

I've played in Ireland and it was amazing - great scene.

Stoic
08-04-2005, 03:43 AM
Jondur, tell me about the russian Scald. I found a CD of theirs for 6 euros.

Pg.99
08-04-2005, 03:46 AM
How are death concerts compared to black or thrash? I've never seen video.... What the hell do they do? Is there a pit? do they all go \m/ i r metal! or... do they all headbang?
The one black video I saw they all just headbanged and it had such atmosphere, simply amazing.
For thrash; I saw slayer, the entire floor was a pit.

Jondur
08-04-2005, 03:51 AM
They are top notch epic doom with Viking themes. The vocals are strong and very individual. This may mean that they are not to your taste. In which case, you have bad taste.

Unfortunately the singer died in about 96 so Will of the Gods is Great Power is the only available material.

EDIT: To Stoic. Ps I wish I lived in Greece

Stoic
08-04-2005, 03:55 AM
come on Jondur my taste is not that bad! :p

This is the album I found (obviously). Why would I have problem with the vocals though? A description might help...

Jondur
08-04-2005, 04:13 AM
come on Jondur my taste is not that bad! :p

This is the album I found (obviously). Why would I have problem with the vocals though? A description might help...

I think for 6 Euros you can afford to take a risk. If you don't like it sell it on ebay - you'll get your money back. It's quite sought after.

Stoic
08-04-2005, 04:34 AM
^I'll give it a shot then the next time I order.

Excellent, I win.

I'm bored, so I want to start my next thread, but M-A isn't up right now. :angry:

NP: Aura Noir

Are you starting a series? What is it about? By the way, like I said, when MA is down you can always use this: http://67.15.40.19/~morrigan/

Blackened thrash: Tormentor \m/. Look out for Anno Domini that is an amazing album. If only you could browse my files on soulseek...

Attila's band. Anno Domini is an awesome album \m/


For the thrash matter, I like some technical thrash like sadus and coroner or even more underground like toxik, Hexenhaus, random Mekong Delta, Arcane and Intruder. My knowledge on the genre isnt great though and I dont have idea about the most popular bands. A thing I notice in the thrash thread is that only older bands are being discussed (I usually prefer newer stuff) thing that makes me wonder whether there's a thrash scene nowadays...

NP Moonspell

Apocalyptic Raids
08-04-2005, 05:33 AM
There are a few good bands these days, although most of them aren't purely thrash, with most of them bringing in Death and/or Black Metal influences.

craggyisland
08-04-2005, 05:37 AM
Attila's band. Anno Domini is an awesome album \m/
Sure is. Shame about the stuff they did after that really, when they got back together not so long ago.

Since I've been in Rome the past week I've been able to pick up Kreator - Terrible Certainty and Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales for 10€, I think I did pretty well with that. :cool:

DJ69
08-04-2005, 05:48 AM
I heard Deicide for the first time a few days ago :confused: I dont know what anyone else thinks of them, but I thought they sounded terrible. What do other people think of them?

craggyisland
08-04-2005, 05:50 AM
Their first two albums (the s/t and Legion) were pretty damn good. The new stuff isn't.

DJ69
08-04-2005, 05:54 AM
Yeah I heard the song **** Your God, and i think it was the fact that it was the same riff the whole song, and that the only lyrics of Glenn Benton (?) that i could make out were "**** Your God"

Apocalyptic Raids
08-04-2005, 08:30 AM
Where should I start for Napalm Death?

Jondur
08-04-2005, 08:53 AM
Enemy of the Music Business. It's just a great album - all the agression and whirlwind violence of the early grind stuff - but nowadays Napalm can actually play thir instruments!

Then get Scum.

Ve Das
08-04-2005, 10:05 AM
Deicide´s boring.Can´t bring myself to listen to them when I´m sober,BUT they rule when drunk ;)

Dancin' Man
08-04-2005, 11:09 AM
So what do we all think of Abigail? It's like black/thrash I guess. It's possibly the most immature music I've ever heard aside form punk.

RCA
08-04-2005, 11:44 AM
So what do we all think of Abigail? It's like black/thrash I guess. It's possibly the most immature music I've ever heard aside form punk.

Eh, they're alright.

I'm dying to do my Heroes Of Thrash threads again, seeing as how everybody is somewhat interested in thrash. Can't do 'em 'til I get home though. :(

Dancin' Man
08-04-2005, 11:56 AM
I just listened to my first Candiria and all I have to say is disappointing. There just doesn't seem to be any energy. It sounds great but it drags. It needs to be faster and if there is so much jazz there, why when they play heavy parts don't they use jazz? It's like nu-metal with awesome jazz metal thrown in here and there.

Stoic
08-04-2005, 12:02 PM
Now I can see why they're not in MA :p

DM by the way, do you have any crunchy avant garde suggestions besides arcturus, solefald, age of silence and gorguts?

wtf is nintendo metal?! :confused:

Dancin' Man
08-04-2005, 12:17 PM
Peccatum, Maudlin of the Well/Kayo Dot, [Behold... the Arctopus, Dysrhythmia] (more like super technical instrumental metal), Carnival in Coal, Diabolical Masquerade, Ebony Lake, Ephel Duath (sort of), Foreign Objects can be, Frederick Thordendal's Special Defects, Idiot Flesh, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, In the Woods..., Kadenzza, Lux Occulta, Mare does some avant garde stuff occasionally (which is often considering they only have 5 songs available), The MEads of Asphodel and that's about all I've got. Not all are fully avant garde but all of them do something really unique which basically is avant-garde.

Nintendocore is HORSE the Band. They use cheap synths that sound like nintendo music, turn them up really loud in the mix of a hardcore band and sing about nintendo games. I'll post a song in a few minutes.

Stoic
08-04-2005, 12:25 PM
Peccatum, Maudlin of the Well/Kayo Dot, [Behold... the Arctopus, Dysrhythmia] (more like super technical instrumental metal), Carnival in Coal, Diabolical Masquerade, Ebony Lake, Ephel Duath (sort of), Foreign Objects can be, Frederick Thordendal's Special Defects, Idiot Flesh, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, In the Woods..., Kadenzza, Lux Occulta, Mare does some avant garde stuff occasionally (which is often considering they only have 5 songs available), The MEads of Asphodel and that's about all I've got. Not all are fully avant garde but all of them do something really unique which basically is avant-garde.

Yo, this is a big paragraph!
I have checked out the bands in bold. I know Diabolical Masquarade, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Ebony lake, Lux Occulta and In woods but I havent listened to anything by them. It's the first time I've heard of the rest. These should keep me bust for several days, thank you! :D

RCA
08-04-2005, 12:28 PM
A thing I notice in the thrash thread is that only older bands are being discussed (I usually prefer newer stuff) thing that makes me wonder whether there's a thrash scene nowadays...

Invocator, Gaschamber, Violator, Andralls, Sauron, and Toxic Holocaust are all good modern thrash bands that you should try out. :thumb:

There are more too, so if you like any of those bands I can send another recommendation your way.

NP: Sepultura - Inquisition Symphony (Best thrash instrumental ever)

Dancin' Man
08-04-2005, 12:32 PM
Peccatum, Maudlin of the Well/Kayo Dot, [Behold... the Arctopus, Dysrhythmia] (more like super technical instrumental metal), Carnival in Coal, Diabolical Masquerade, Ebony Lake, Ephel Duath (sort of), Foreign Objects can be, Frederick Thordendal's Special Defects, Idiot Flesh, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, In the Woods..., Kadenzza, Lux Occulta, Mare does some avant garde stuff occasionally (which is often considering they only have 5 songs available), The MEads of Asphodel and that's about all I've got. Not all are fully avant garde but all of them do something really unique which basically is avant-garde.

Yo, this is a big paragraph!
I have checked out the bands in bold. I know Diabolical Masquarade, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Ebony lake, Lux Occulta and In woods but I havent listened to anything by them. It's the first time I've heard of the rest. These should keep me bust for several days, thank you! :D

If you've got IM just get them from me there. Viking Vs Pirate. Also, if you don't make sure to check out Sleepytime Gorilla Museum further, I'll cut you off. Idiot Flesh is basically the same band but older material.

Dancin' Man
08-04-2005, 12:39 PM
HORSE the Band

xhttp://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02AB8LC048AAT11T4YZQB2IPVD - Cutsman

xhttp://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TGLEJ30L63IS2ZZTWV2PT5717 - Stabbers of the Knife by Kenny P Elts

Stoic
08-04-2005, 12:40 PM
Invocator, Gaschamber, Violator, Andralls, Sauron, and Toxic Holocaust are all good modern thrash bands that you should try out. :thumb:

There are more too, so if you like any of those bands I can send another recommendation your way.


Thank you RCA, seeing modern thrash (not neo "thrash") bands mentioned is not an everyday thing. I'll put them in my list and check them out after my avant garde digging is over.

If you've got IM just get them from me there. Viking Vs Pirate. Also, if you don't make sure to check out Sleepytime Gorilla Museum further, I'll cut you off. Idiot Flesh is basically the same band but older material.

I dont have IM unfortunately and I'll make sure I check SGM :p

I'm now looking for In the Woods on Soulseek. In fact I'm listening to a song by them at the moment with some annoying screamy vocals.

EDIT

clean vocals walked in, like what I hear but it's damn hard to find an unqueued album :(

Thanks for the uploads, you rule man! :)

Dancin' Man
08-04-2005, 12:44 PM
Soulseek I've got too
Fast Fingers is my name.

Stoic
08-04-2005, 12:49 PM
haha, why didnt you say it in from the beginning?! :p
I hope I'll get good speed from you

/goes to soulseek

Oh that nintendo thing is both annoying and cool at times.

RCA
08-04-2005, 01:04 PM
What does everyone think of Judas Iscariot? I'm listening to To Embrace The Corpses Bleeding at the moment, and it's pretty good. Sounds a bit like older Immortal at times. :thumb:

Corporal Compendia
08-04-2005, 02:03 PM
How are death concerts compared to black or thrash? I've never seen video.... What the hell do they do? Is there a pit? do they all go \m/ i r metal! or... do they all headbang?
The one black video I saw they all just headbanged and it had such atmosphere, simply amazing.
For thrash; I saw slayer, the entire floor was a pit.

Lots of headbanging, lots of moshing, lots of grunting, lots of drinking. Not unlike a thrash show.
The only metal crowd I really notice a big difference in, is the Power Metal Crowd. Skinny Milhouse Nerds everywhere.

RCA
08-04-2005, 02:12 PM
Lots of headbanging, lots of moshing, lots of grunting, lots of drinking. Not unlike a thrash show.
The only metal crowd I really notice a big difference in, is the Power Metal Crowd. Skinny Milhouse Nerds everywhere.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

I saw Overkill yesterday, and the crowd there was wild. Beer and headbanging everywhere. :chug:

i am the robots
08-04-2005, 03:08 PM
Ahh yes, my friends go to Power Metal shows, so funny... let's just say we hang out at a video game store.

philiop
08-04-2005, 03:21 PM
anyone know who is supporting Nile in september in Newcastle?

Lord Abortion
08-04-2005, 04:12 PM
/inserts cannibal corpse fanboy comment here

/mentions the awesomeness of the pits at said band's gigs

LeperAffinity
08-04-2005, 05:44 PM
So I was reading a review of Lykathea's Elvenefris, and the reviewer mentioned that before they broke up, they released a re-recording of one track with the new lineup. I was wondering if anyone's heard it, or has it?

Stoic
08-04-2005, 05:47 PM
did he mention why they actually split up? :(

Rothmans
08-04-2005, 05:48 PM
did he mention why they actually split up? :(


I would say they were getting nowhere with the new music.

Stoic
08-04-2005, 05:49 PM
why not? Did all of the sudden run out of ideas? :(

Rothmans
08-04-2005, 05:52 PM
why not? Did all of the sudden run out of ideas? :(


Well 5 years and the pressure of the album they had released and all.

At least we have Elefinivirs or whatever, great album.

LeperAffinity
08-04-2005, 06:18 PM
did he mention why they actually split up? :(
Sadly, no reason was mentioned. Something else, while browsing Ebay, I came across a cd by a band called Breaking Beads, which is apparently an alternative rock band feturing Tomas Corn. Has anyone heard about this, or will someone please refute it?
Well 5 years and the pressure of the album they had released and all.

At least we have Elefinivirs or whatever, great album.
Elvenefris* :p And great is a massive understatement.

LeperAffinity
08-04-2005, 06:27 PM
OHSHI

I was reading the Teufel's Tomb forums, and came across a thread on Appalling Spawn(Pre Lykathe for those that don't know). Apparently Tomas Corn emailed him July 11th with the following message:
Just got this e-mail... weird...

Hi man,
thanx a lot for all kind words about Elvenefris. It´s have to say that Lykathea Aflame (Lykathé -nowdays) is something like a one -man (Petr Tománek - Ptoe) band, I will play there only like a session drummer coz I´m too bussy with my other bands. Thanx for your review again.

Tomas Corn
My god...so Lykathe might still be somewhat active :amaze:

Rothmans
08-04-2005, 06:28 PM
OHSHI

I was reading the Teufel's Tomb forums, and came across a thread on Appalling Spawn(Pre Lykathe for those that don't know). Apparently Tomas Corn emailed him July 11th with the following message:

My god...so Lykathe might still be somewhat active :amaze:


Ohhh thats strange anyway they are not gonna be elvenifris.

LeperAffinity
08-04-2005, 06:41 PM
Well Elvenefris was Ptoe for the most part, he handled the guitar and vocals on the album, and if Tomas does session drums, then the core of the songwriting will still be intact.

Rothmans
08-04-2005, 06:47 PM
Well Elvenefris was Ptoe for the most part, he handled the guitar and vocals on the album, and if Tomas does session drums, then the core of the songwriting will still be intact.


Lightning doesnt strike twice


or rarley I forget which one

Slapping Penguin
08-04-2005, 07:19 PM
Holy Poo I just heard Cyptopsy's Open Face Surgery. That scream by Lord Worm is awsome. The production pretty **** though otherwise on the song and I'm still not a fan of his vocals but I gotta respect him at least. I heard a few Cyptopsy songs off "and then you'll beg" and I don't know what other people opinions are of him I liked the new singer alot more.

Apocalpitic Raid where about in Australia do you live. Same goes with Bread Man.

PS: Is it odd that when I listen to death metal it puts a huge smile on my face. It doesn't make me angry or sad I'm just super happy. Is that odd?

IAJP
08-04-2005, 07:22 PM
I think the production on that album as a whole adds to the whole under-current of evil on it. Personally..


And no, I always feel happy when listening to disparate and random pieces of music, same goes for Death Metal.

I was listening to some Mayhem before, I was grinning :p.

ALSO, Best usertitle / Avatar combo ever :lol:

Rothmans
08-04-2005, 07:23 PM
I thought the production of all cryptopsy is alright

On another note I bought some Sunn 0)) at a HMV today I havnt properly listend to it yet.

IAJP
08-04-2005, 07:27 PM
I thought the production of all cryptopsy is alright

On another note I bought some Sunn 0)) at a HMV today I havnt properly listend to it yet.
They're a band I've been meaning to get into for a long time.

I have £50 and I'm going to go and raid some music shops tommorow, so I'll update you all on what I've got.

I was considering getting some more Meshuggah, I got I and I really like the time signatures and song structure of that, I might get The World Needs A Hero, I've heard a few songs off it and it's great. Or even an Opeth album. Mainly I'll be focusing on getting my Death collection sorted, I only need like 2 albums now. :)

Rothmans
08-04-2005, 07:30 PM
They're a band I've been meaning to get into for a long time.

I have £50 and I'm going to go and raid some music shops tommorow, so I'll update you all on what I've got.

I was considering getting some more Meshuggah, I got I and I really like the time signatures and song structure of that, I might get The World Needs A Hero, I've heard a few songs off it and it's great. Or even an Opeth album. Mainly I'll be focusing on getting my Death collection sorted, I only need like 2 albums now. :)


Cool I really need to get some death I ned to re buy david bowie aswell. :/

LeperAffinity
08-04-2005, 07:38 PM
I thought the production of all cryptopsy is alright

On another note I bought some Sunn 0)) at a HMV today I havnt properly listend to it yet.
You need a huge subwoofer to listen to Sunn 0))). You turn the bass all the way up, and it's just incredible

Slapping Penguin
08-04-2005, 07:42 PM
ALSO, Best usertitle / Avatar combo ever

Haha thanks alot mate.
Yeah I was listening to Open Surgery Face and it just annoyed me because it was too hard to bop along too. I think the best Cyptopspy song is Phobophile that song is jsut awsome.

Rothmans
08-04-2005, 07:46 PM
You need a huge subwoofer to listen to Sunn 0))). You turn the bass all the way up, and it's just incredible


Whats so different?

Lefty
08-04-2005, 07:56 PM
Sadly, no reason was mentioned. Something else, while browsing Ebay, I came across a cd by a band called Breaking Beads, which is apparently an alternative rock band feturing Tomas Corn. Has anyone heard about this, or will someone please refute it?

Elvenefris* :p And great is a massive understatement.

I did some googlin', and it seems like Breaking Beads is a metal band;

BREAKING BEADS
hudební žánr(y): death metal, thrash metal
adresa: Heydukova 13, 18000 Praha 8
kraj: Hlavní město Praha
stát: ČR
telefon: 777582572
e-mail: petr.koral@seznam.cz
kontaktní osoba(y): Petr Korál

I'd love to hear this band.

LeperAffinity
08-04-2005, 08:09 PM
I did some googlin', and it seems like Breaking Beads is a metal band;



I'd love to hear this band.
In that case, I'm ordering the cd. Only $6.66(OMG TEH EVILZ).
Whats so different?
You'll see when you hear them. They have a very droning, very low and bassy sound.

Rothmans
08-04-2005, 08:12 PM
In that case, I'm ordering the cd. Only $6.66(OMG TEH EVILZ).

You'll see when you hear them. They have a very droning, very low and bassy sound.


I have heard them before they are alright I am gonna try that thanks.


Anyone a fan of the swans?

I recently got into them and cant get enough of them.

-Esoteric-
08-04-2005, 10:49 PM
Disgorge (US)
Immolation
Suffocation
Morbid Angel
Death
Iniquity
Incantation
Deeds of Flesh
Krisiun
Severe Torture
Decrepit Birth
Internal Suffering

.... The list goes on.

Death Metal >>>> other genres.

RCA
08-04-2005, 10:51 PM
Disgorge (US)
Immolation
Suffocation
Morbid Angel
Death
Iniquity
Incantation
Deeds of Flesh
Krisiun
Severe Torture
Decrepit Birth
Internal Suffering

.... The list goes on.

Death Metal >>>> other genres.


I love your user name. This may be a stupid question, but do you like the band Esoteric?

RiceMonster
08-04-2005, 11:20 PM
I have heard them before they are alright I am gonna try that thanks.
Yeah, I found them to be alright as well. I like them in small doses, but I can't listen to them for too long.

-Esoteric-
08-04-2005, 11:35 PM
I love your user name. This may be a stupid question, but do you like the band Esoteric?

Nah it's not a stupid question..

Even moreso because I've never heard the band Esoteric, nor did I know they existed. Haha :p

RCA
08-04-2005, 11:40 PM
Nah it's not a stupid question..

Even moreso because I've never heard the band Esoteric, nor did I know they existed. Haha :p

Aha. Esoteric is a VERY good doom metal band, but aren't that accessible. :(

Sebek
08-05-2005, 12:43 AM
John, I'm kind of dissapointed that you didn't put Nile up there.

Dancin' Man
08-05-2005, 01:40 AM
Way up above - Yeeha to Swans! Some great stuff that is.

I need to say that Theory in Practice and Ion Dissonance are two excellent bands. Disuss.

KBSD91
08-05-2005, 01:41 AM
Disgorge (US)
Immolation
Suffocation
Morbid Angel
Death
Iniquity
Incantation
Deeds of Flesh
Krisiun
Severe Torture
Decrepit Birth
Internal Suffering

.... The list goes on.

Death Metal >>>> other genres.

Disgorge, a band I'm proud to have come from my town. Unlike Cattle Decap.

lilpete86
08-05-2005, 05:49 AM
Jondur mate do you reckon you'll be checking out this ****ation festival at jillys in october?

Stoic
08-05-2005, 06:02 AM
PS: Is it odd that when I listen to death metal it puts a huge smile on my face. It doesn't make me angry or sad I'm just super happy. Is that odd?

If death metal caused me negative feelings I wouldn't listen to it ;).

Death metal makes me either :amaze: or :D or :eek: depending on the sub genre!

Ion Dissonance

why arent they in MA?

LeperAffinity
08-05-2005, 07:32 AM
why arent they in MA?
They're technical hardcore along the lines of Dillinger Escape Plan. Good band, but not metal.

IAJP
08-05-2005, 07:34 AM
Wow! I got Leprosy by Death today, thus completing my Death collection. It's awesome :D.

Stoic
08-05-2005, 07:36 AM
They're technical hardcore along the lines of Dillinger Escape Plan. Good band, but not metal.

With the exception of the irritating screamo vocals I like DEP.

/goes to allmusic.com


Friday 23rd September 2005 @ Edwards No 8, Birmingham
Decapitated (Pol) + Gorerotted + Detonation (Hol) + Dam + Sarpanitum

Is any englishman going to this?

HappyMarshmellow
08-05-2005, 09:52 AM
My friend just gave me the link to his MySpace, it's a death/doom/sludge band of his called Dj ****ed and Andy ****.

I've played with these guys, our last band was called Schizophrenia and we had the reputation of seriously ****ing up any competitions (Battle of the Bands, Talent Shows, etc.) we got into, along with groups like Genocide Apocalypse (which I've also played in). We're banned from playing at two high school already :lol: and we've had people come up to is in the middle of nowhere, people we don't even know, praising us for our music and our ability to piss staff off.

The quality of the recording is crap (LLN style), but I think you guys should listen. Open up your ears and remember that the drummer was away in the states while this was recorded, and the methods of recording were not the most accurate.

Tell me what you think.

http://www.myspace.com/dj****edandandy****

EDIT: replace the ****'s with ****

Cemetary_Gates
08-05-2005, 10:52 AM
Im not.. BUT im bored so i will fill this is any way. i like some stuuf like that such as:

Pantera
Slayer
Vision Of Disorder
System Of A Down
SlipKnot

That is the HEAVY **** that i like but i like most Heavy Rock songs like:

Linkin Park
Rage Against the Machine
RHCP

etc. you now what i mean :p


lol, i like pantera, SOAD, slipknot and RATM. But i certainly would NOT call any of those bands heavy at all. Pantera are probably the heaviest there, with the exception of slayer because i dont seriously consider them a very good band at all, the songs arent well constructed at all, KK and Jeff hanneman are fast guitarists, but their solos suck!

RiceMonster
08-05-2005, 10:55 AM
lol, i like pantera, SOAD, slipknot and RATM. But i certainly would NOT call any of those bands heavy at all. Pantera are probably the heaviest there, with the exception of slayer because i dont seriously consider them a very good band at all, the songs arent well constructed at all, KK and Jeff hanneman are fast guitarists, but their solos suck!
Do you have any idea how old that post is?

Apocalyptic Raids
08-05-2005, 11:01 AM
lol, i like pantera, SOAD, slipknot and RATM. But i certainly would NOT call any of those bands heavy at all. Pantera are probably the heaviest there, with the exception of slayer because i dont seriously consider them a very good band at all, the songs arent well constructed at all, KK and Jeff hanneman are fast guitarists, but their solos suck!
Slayer solos are supposed to be fast and chaotic.

RiceMonster
08-05-2005, 11:17 AM
Slayer solos are supposed to be fast and chaotic.
And it comes off as jerking off their whammy bars while hitting random frets.

Stoic
08-05-2005, 11:31 AM
And it comes off as jerking off their whammy bars while hitting random frets.

true, hehe :D

I never liked slayer's solos either or the band itself.

naboo
08-05-2005, 11:58 AM
Wow! I got Leprosy by Death today, thus completing my Death collection. It's awesome :D.

I was never into Death's early stuff. I have a burned copy of Leprosy, but I find it really boring and generic. Even "Pull The Plug," one of their most famous songs, does nothing for me. Give me Symbolic and put on Crystal Mountain.

Rothmans
08-05-2005, 11:59 AM
true, hehe :D

I never liked slayer's solos either or the band itself.


Slayer are possibly even more repetitive than CC.

the2stranger
08-05-2005, 11:59 AM
slayer's solo's all sound the same, I can't stand to listen to a whole slayer cd, way too repetitive.

anyone going to the Amon Amarth gig on the 15th of this month?
there are 2 bands supporting them, both of which I haven't heard.
but I don't thik this can be bad, considering the ticket only costed me 10€ :D

Stoic
08-05-2005, 11:59 AM
I was never into Death's early stuff. I have a burned copy of Leprosy, but I find it really boring and generic. Even "Pull The Plug," one of their most famous songs, does nothing for me. Give me Symbolic and put on Crystal Mountain.

/waits for Jondur :D

Stoic
08-05-2005, 12:00 PM
slayer's solo's all sound the same, I can't stad to listen to a whole alyer cd, way too repetitive.

anyone going to the Amon Amarth gig on the 15th of this month?
there are 2 bands supporting them, both of which I haven't heard.
but I don't thik this can be bad, considering the ticket only costed me 10€ :D

YOU'RE BACK! :D:D:D

the2stranger
08-05-2005, 12:05 PM
YOU'RE BACK! :D:D:D


yes, and it's good to be back, thank you kind :)

the bands supporting amon amarth are:
CATARACT + IMPIOUS

anyone know them?
ma is down :mad:

Stoic
08-05-2005, 12:12 PM
For MA you can use an alternative address: http://67.15.40.19/~morrigan/

These posts might interest you: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9023711&postcount=22168

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9006965&postcount=22096

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8971218&postcount=1170

This thread might interest you: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372553

Diabolical Masquerade (sp?) and Thorns slay :D

Make sure you also check the Canadian Sequence

the2stranger
08-05-2005, 12:33 PM
thank you once again Stoic, you rule!

/downloads a poo-load of music :D

I own a Diabolical Masquerade cd called Nightwork, and it rocks.
and Thorns is Snorre's band not? with Helhammer on drums? I wanted to check them out never did though :(

I've never heard of Sequence, I'll check them out though, what subgenre is it? tech death? ;)

thanks again!

np: Opeth - By The Pain I see In Others.

i am the robots
08-05-2005, 12:36 PM
My lord... everybody must download this band: Ghost Boners

NP: Ghost Boners - The Cyborg Decimation Of Anderson Cooper

Stoic
08-05-2005, 12:40 PM
thank you once again Stoic, you rule!

/downloads a poo-load of music :D

I own a Diabolical Masquerade cd called Nightwork, and it rocks.
and Thorns is Snorre's band not? with Helhammer on drums? I wanted to check them out never did though :(

I've never heard of Sequence, I'll check them out though, what subgenre is it? tech death? ;)

thanks again!



No problem at all :)

yup, this is Thorns. Here are two songs: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8972075&postcount=21952

As for sequence, surprisinlgy they're not tech death. They play some kind of prog but they only have one song for download so I'm not sure how to classify them.

My lord... everybody must download this band: Ghost Boners

NP: Ghost Boners - The Cyborg Decimation Of Anderson Cooper

What genre are they?

Ad Absurdum
08-05-2005, 01:00 PM
I was never into Death's early stuff. I have a burned copy of Leprosy, but I find it really boring and generic. Even "Pull The Plug," one of their most famous songs, does nothing for me. Give me Symbolic and put on Crystal Mountain.
Blasphemy, early death owns! :p Scream Bloody Gore was the greatest, Chris Reifert was my favourite drummer with them.

Diabolical Masquerade (sp?) and Thorns slay
I've never heard Thorns before, but Diabolical Masquerade are excellent. I've got Ravendusk In My Heart and it's a great album. I was surprised because some of the riffs are like classic metal played in a